Liverpool Banter Archive August 26 2017

26 Aug 2017 23:48:36
Ed02 u our boss mate love all of use
But I like to say what ever happened to that young boy that live pool made a complete mess of its a disgrace but u think we're the only club that's messed up with young kids mate
Am from liverpool there my team my mate takes us kid he's young they have got no ****ing respect and the as me for Everton mate
He got spotted by Bolton they come and pick him up and pay what us sad loses on wages mate
Liverpool and Evertonr not any were near goid at looking after the kids mate.

{Ed002's Note - you mean our babysitting business is going to have to close down?}

27 Aug 2017 00:34:23
Like that fella
No disrespect to u mate
I talk to my mates about everton like what u r doing hope we can rule afain.

27 Aug 2017 01:29:36
You couldn't write this stuff if you tried.

27 Aug 2017 03:04:15
Stay off the lemmo lad.

27 Aug 2017 05:45:43
Pardon?

27 Aug 2017 12:56:19
I need a lie down after attempting to read that.

27 Aug 2017 13:09:03
EDS Everton or ****ing something and then some other Stuff about kids, WILL SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN, blue, blue, red, something about my mates, b*stard and some other stuff. And split personalities. I like eggs.

26 Aug 2017 22:47:39
I am a a football fan, love every ones split personality because we have all got one
I have read so much for 5 yrs but its come to a point when I've ed02 proper says what he knows but i would love u to tell me as a propper blue u r and I love it ed, but u proper dislike everything abpou liverpool your post just smell of the blue rubbish
To the eds I love all that make this site, in my eyes the ****ing only one but i know eds u r a legend but a blue.

{Ed002's Note - I have no dislike of Liverpool otherwise I would not keep telling you the truth. Everton are a fine side.}

26 Aug 2017 23:20:58
"I am a a football fan, love every ones split personality because we have all got one"

Yeah, I've recognised Drunk. What's your other personality?

26 Aug 2017 23:44:51
One's enough. We don't need to be shown the others.

27 Aug 2017 00:03:22
pissed is short of the truth.

27 Aug 2017 00:58:33
Two in a row.

27 Aug 2017 00:13:25
Ed02 am drunk but love u kid
But fell a liverpool have acted so much that they had to so sorry
Then it goes to u U r a one and only person on here tgat I follow that speaks how it is
But u dislike k lopp the board the lot but what I say to u is deep down were all the same mate

And U know what fella I like Everton I talk to my mares in work about how u r progressing kid.
It willtake time good luck to u and us all taking titles and cups from this ****ing nabs if cockneys we s once stood together my friend hope we wsje up and c that the next blue and red will rule again.

27 Aug 2017 01:54:46
I suppose he is near right you're team do play in blue Ed002, or am I jumping to conclusions thinking you are a Chelsea fan?

{Ed002's Note - I am not a "fan" of any side. I do however generally support Chelsea, but I don't care if they win or lose and rarely do I bother going to games - although I may go to the CL game in Baku as I have not been there before (although it is possible that they could be back there again for the 2019 Champions League Final). But "fan", no.}

27 Aug 2017 08:57:47
You should go Ed02 f yu are in the area at the time (I get the feeling you are always travelling from country to country) let you're hair down and enjoy yourself. :)

27 Aug 2017 09:58:26
Question for ed002, What is the difference between a fan and a supporter in your eyes? I see you say you support Chelsea but aren't a fan and I'm wondering if there's different ways of people interpreting it.

In my eyes a supporter is someone who helps the club, contributes to their club etc in some sort of way (season ticket holders, fans groups etc, regulars, people who put into the club) and a fan is someone who follows a club in some sort of way (watching, listening, reading) but I always struggle to explain the difference.

Thanks in advance.

{Ed002's Note - At last a decent question - thanks TIA19.

The word "fan" derives from the word "fanatic" which would be someone who could be described as zealously keen on their team (e.g. Liverpool, Everton, Third Lanark), a particular player (e.g. Ronaldo, Messi and Mignolet will no doubt have "fan" clubs) or perhaps the singer from a beat music combo such as the Beatles, Cliff Richard or, favorites of mine, the Frumious Bandersnatch.

Supporters tend to be much more calm and cheerful people (not like the vein-popping, eye-bulging, tattooed, knuckle-dragging, bonehead fans whose ugly slobbering faces are pressed against the windows of the opposition coaches). They often have nice cream heavy-knit jumpers and own lilac-colored labradoodles that they are teaching to talk. They often carry very small combs that they use to groom their mustaches and spend Sunday lunchtimes in small country pubs drinking ale from mugs rather than glasses.}

27 Aug 2017 10:29:09
That reply had the perfect balance between genuine opinion and sarcasm. I personally think you just described the difference between a 'die-hard' fan and a leisurely fan. But I can see your logic, cheers!
Based on your response I think I'm a supporter of Liverpool, win lose or draw I'll try support, help and follow them, calmly and cheerfully. But I am a fan of the actual team/ players/ manager. sometimes I'm not a fan of the team (when Hodgson was in charge, as an example) but I still supported them, but I wasn't exactly fanatical about him.
Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Good for you. You shouldn't need the double-knit today as you head down to the Fox and Houds at Barnston for your lunchtime pint.}

26 Aug 2017 21:07:26
Personally, I really hope Can stays. I think he has the potential to be a really special player. If he leaves he's one that people here who complain about him will wonder why on earth we let him go.

26 Aug 2017 22:15:14
I agree. Different player to Couts, but in a few years he will be as big a player. I get the same feeling with him as I did with Alli - he has quality written all over him.

Also who would fashion all the LFC gear? Am getting quite used to random pictures of Emre appearing on my screen wearing various clobber with his chest puffed out.

26 Aug 2017 22:58:16
Emre Can is more similar to Vidal at Bayern and Naingolan at Roma, as a box to box player, and he seemingly enjoys this role and has been chipping in with goals of late.

26 Aug 2017 23:41:41
People ask very often about the tough, hard men that played for LFC in the 70's and 80's (Smith, Souness, McMahon etc., ) . In my opinion, Emre Can is the closest thing I have seen to a tough hard LFC man, since those days. You can see the warrior spirit from a mile away. Jamie Carragher had it too.

27 Aug 2017 18:04:23
If there is anyone that would ever do a Patrick Viera from Liverpool, It is Emre Can!

26 Aug 2017 20:54:50
I still believe Liverpool will sign VVD. But Arsenal seem to be clearing the way by selling all their centre backs. Selling all their centrebacks they must be signing a decent CB very soon. And they are more likely to sign VVD according to the bookies than Chelsea.

26 Aug 2017 21:32:57
Bet you're loving the fact that so many rivals
Still haven't got their squad sorted. Makes it quite interesting because I think at least one set of fans will be very annoyed when the window closes. Hopefully, not us.

26 Aug 2017 21:53:30
Southampton's Pellegrini came out today and said he still thinks vvd will be a Southampton pLayer at the end of the window which makes me think more BS being is spread.

26 Aug 2017 20:28:00
Why has maccas post disappeared?

{Ed002's Note - It is on the Other page due to the trolling.}

26 Aug 2017 19:21:09
ed002 i asked a question earlier and thanks for the reply but what i really mean and its not just pipco but most footballers that refuse to play as they have seen the grass greener somewhere else. If this was a normal job you would not be paid and have a warning about conduct. Plus whatever club they have played for have progressed there career so other teams come knocking . Oh and thank you and all eds for this site.

{Ed002's Note - They can be fined two weeks wages and that would normally be it. Some occasionally look to legal action but most sell them on - a few patch it up - one or two hold players to ransom and force them to stay when they don't want to.

Clubs are very careful in buying troublesome players and that limits the options for the player when moving sides. For example, I doubt Liverpool or QPR would be looking to take Joey Barton on again.}

26 Aug 2017 20:30:53
I agree Ed2, but for the teams they wanna move too. And second, who would you install at the club to clean up the transfers?

{Ed002's Note - Joey Barton.}

26 Aug 2017 21:02:18
Really Ed? Just curious why Joey? Not disagreeing at all, just curious why you mentioned him. Interesting.

{Ed002's Note - He has time on his hands right now. The fans keep telling me they want ex-Liverpool players back in the set up. Ideal solution.}

26 Aug 2017 21:31:27
Joey's had a football team named after him.

Dumbarton.

26 Aug 2017 21:47:45
Makes sense Ed. maybe Joey in as DOF, Gerrard as manager, with carra on his staff. hmm, may be on to something ed.

26 Aug 2017 22:04:01
Are you for real stone?

26 Aug 2017 22:04:57
You could hardly say he previously played for Liverpool ed02! A few games when he was 14 😂.

26 Aug 2017 23:13:23
I guess you can't read sarcasm livered, or I can't express it correctly, but no I'm not seriuous.

26 Aug 2017 23:16:24
Classic reply from Killingholme.

Still chuckling.

26 Aug 2017 19:45:37
is it tuesday yet?

26 Aug 2017 20:30:13
Nothing will happen on Tuesday! We are done in this transfer window, I regretfully inform you.

26 Aug 2017 21:09:17
One in if we are lucky I've been informed.

26 Aug 2017 19:00:04
Just booked 3 tickets in the upper main stand for tomorrow.

Excited much. FORNAX I will see you in the morning mate.

Come on you red men, do us proud!

On a side note, I might have to change my username soon. Damn!

😂.

26 Aug 2017 20:42:09
Could change it to Coutinh no no no?

26 Aug 2017 18:53:44
Any teams interested in Kasper Schmeichel ed? Quality goalkeeper despite the name ;)

{Ed001's Note - Liverpool are not.}

26 Aug 2017 17:34:07
Ed's and fellow Reds,
I don't understand why players are slagged off before being given a proper chance. In my mind it isn't fair to judge a player before a full season. Is that naive, and if so, how long should a player be given? I feel that under some people's view, Hendo would be gone. Gini wouldn't have scored the goal in the last game, last year. And let's not forget Lucas. Thoughts?
Matt in FL.

26 Aug 2017 18:17:12
Based on why I've read on here, the only player that wouldn't be gone is mane and maybe salah! I think it depends on age, experience, cultural background, style of play and position they are asked to play. Generally I would say 1-2 years but as I mentioned potentially longer for younger players.

26 Aug 2017 18:34:31
They 'll be lining up for mane next summer that's the way it's been for years it won't change we make players into superstars and expect them to play with average players that's why we have to sign world class and not make them world class.

26 Aug 2017 19:45:09
The way to keep the players that we make world class is to stay consistently in the top 4, be more fiscally responsible, stay within the rules (no tapping up, etc. ), win silverware. When we do those things, we will have players beating down the doors to join. I personally like standing up to Barcelona and saying no. It's about time we stand up to these teams, keep our best players and be an elite club again.

27 Aug 2017 00:56:34
Hey Matt, I'm also a Florida Red where you at mate?

26 Aug 2017 16:59:32
I've just had a terrible nightmare, what if the centre back is Evans in a swap deal for Sakho, if it was the case this site would explode!

26 Aug 2017 18:15:24
No thanks, not a manc player ever!

26 Aug 2017 18:23:52
That's why I said nightmare this would be a horrible outcome!

26 Aug 2017 18:48:25
Whoever gave me a thumbs down, your on the wrong page pal.

26 Aug 2017 18:55:32
A defensive partnership of Evans and Lovren *shivers*.

26 Aug 2017 15:25:35
New to here guys.

Whatever happens I hope Macca is right about a signing on Tuesday! (VVD)! :D.

26 Aug 2017 15:53:04
It has to be Van Dijk surely? I don't know who else it could be as Mammana has moved and Koulibaly has just qualified for CL with Napoli so they would be reluctant to sell. The only other we're linked with is Tah and that's unlikely again.

26 Aug 2017 19:34:04
Maguire from Hull to link up with Robertson 😖😂😂.

{Ed001's Note - the one who joined Leicester in the summer?}

26 Aug 2017 21:22:49
Maguire didn't look half bad today against a good manc side he will be one for England in the future!

27 Aug 2017 00:58:44
De vrij.

27 Aug 2017 15:01:07
my bad ed1 like I said in another post I don’t pay attention to who other teams buy/ sell unless its to/ from LFC haha.

{Ed001's Note - if it was him I would be worried about a relegation battle.}

26 Aug 2017 14:26:37
Hello reds and eds,
It's been a long since I've mentioned the U23s here so it's about time I say something.
I've been away for a while so I've not been able to catch the start of the U23 season (although I do know that they won their first two games) . I won't be providing match updates this season sorry as I have a very busy year on the horizon. I'd greatly appreciate it if someone could take over. I recommend watching the U23s as they are our future and they are also very entertaining.
Sorry about that gents!

26 Aug 2017 15:18:33
If nobody steps up I will take on the baton. Thank you for last season.

26 Aug 2017 15:54:26
Thanks TIA!

26 Aug 2017 14:10:35
Dear Ed002,

Any chance of an autobiography once you retire? Would be great to read.

{Ed002's Note - I rather doubt there would be much interest in my clean cut life.}

26 Aug 2017 14:55:58
But it can be a best seller among the rodeo clowns?

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps a guide to being a Gentleman Adventurer.}

26 Aug 2017 15:07:57
Please 😀.

26 Aug 2017 13:59:26
Just a question to all lfc fans realistically who would you like to sign instead of van dyke? Either for the 60-70m banded about or a cheaper option. Only players that are available not unrealistic targets.

26 Aug 2017 14:13:28
Mouctar Diahkaby? Andreas Christensen?

26 Aug 2017 14:15:01
I would like Ben Gibson or Malang Sarr.

26 Aug 2017 14:17:23
Manolas, Gibson, Batth, Colley, Koulibaly etc.

I do not buy the whole "there isn't anyone else" argument. Van Dijk is not world class, in fact he isn't even top class. He is just a good player who needs to sort out his positional discipline.

There are far cheaper option. Koulibaly, Colley and Manolas are all perfect for our system. They are quick, strong, good in the air and can play in a high line.

Gibson and Batth are less suited to our style than the other 3, but they are proper leaders at the back. Captain material so to speak.

All 5 of those guys would be attainable if we stumped up the asking price.

26 Aug 2017 14:18:02
Ask Klopp to man up and integrate Sakho and save all.

He needs to be given one chance with all things Coutinho did and everybody is fine with integrating him if he ends up staying.

Sort out Ward and send him on loan.

Cheers.

26 Aug 2017 14:28:26
Kouilbaly

I'd even consider jonny Evans.

26 Aug 2017 14:43:32
Gibson cos he english an could b leader organiser we need, I know he only from boro people have idea cos of that he crap, look at cahill to chelsea, smalling too utd, jones too utd, even keane who jus gone too everton an mcguire to Leicester who I both rate highly, these players can't b ignored an need the chance at a club like ours.

26 Aug 2017 14:54:08
Malang Sarr isn't that good in the air and being that he's barely 6ft you can see him being dominated quite easily.

Gibson is poor in the air, positional sense isn't that great and isn't particularly strong for a centre back. I don't buy into this thing about him being a great organiser, Boro played with ten men behind the ball, that doesn't take much organising.

Koulibaly is a bit lumpen for my liking. Looks awkward on the pitch, good in the air though and strong as an ox, but he's clumsy and has that air of a Djimi Traore about him.

Can't say much about Colley as I've not seen much of him.

Batth? I'm assuming you mean the lad at Wolves? Not good enough for a club with champions league ambitions.

Manolas is a hard case, has a reputation but so what? We don't want a shrinking violet. He's really good in the air, is aggressive and is decent on the ball.

26 Aug 2017 15:00:12
hailstones, Gibson, Evans, Jones, Smalling, Keane, Maguire and Cahill are all terrible players, wouldn't want them at all. And being English shouldn't be a reason for buying a player.

26 Aug 2017 15:29:28
Gibson doesn't improve us, Chdmpionshio is his level.

26 Aug 2017 15:39:15
Hailstones, the way you type is identical to how I used to type on MSN as an awkward 12 year old trying to ask girls out. Are you stuck in 2004/ 05/ 06/ 07?

26 Aug 2017 16:07:41
Was thinking the same thing Jeme. hate reading that sort of text, fair enough when there were phones about you had to press a button multiple times to get one letter but no excuse these days! As for Smalling, Jones, Cahill 😂 Them players and the word great don't belong in the same paragraph let alone sentence.

26 Aug 2017 16:07:41
Was thinking the same thing Jeme. hate reading that sort of text, fair enough when there were phones about you had to press a button multiple times to get one letter but no excuse these days! As for Smalling, Jones, Cahill 😂 Them players and the word great don't belong in the same paragraph let alone sentence.

26 Aug 2017 16:52:45
If VVD is definitely off the agenda then we should go for Manolas. Roma are willing to sell and the price isn't unreasonable compared to the £75m we'd lash out on VVD. Plus he's experienced, quick, dominant, aggressive and a leader.

{Ed002's Note - On Thursday Monchi made it clear to a number of folk in the room with him in Monaco that they have no intention of selling Manolas and he trusts them to offer an "excellent" new contract once the transfer window is closed and they can return to normal.}

26 Aug 2017 13:08:58
Just seen Arsenal are prepared to let Mustafi go could he be the centre half we looking to sign on Tuesday.

26 Aug 2017 13:22:18
Is he any good? Haven't seen him play honestly.

26 Aug 2017 13:35:34
He looked good at the start of last season but he has had few injuries since and not played much since then. Dint know if it would be a good move or not. That's if we are indeed looking at him.

26 Aug 2017 13:45:16
He's shockingly bad.

26 Aug 2017 14:22:38
Thought he started well first 4,5 games. But then in my opinion been very average especially for amount paid.

26 Aug 2017 11:56:21
Hi Eds. change of pace given it must be like Groundhog Day for you guys. Is there a question you would like to ask us?

{Ed001's Note - I would like to know how you found the site in the first place?}

26 Aug 2017 12:08:09
Found it on google when I searched Liverpool transfer rumours as the previous site I was using shut down. This site has been a great find and the best Liverpool site I've used.

26 Aug 2017 12:08:15
I typed in google Liverpool transfers rumours.

26 Aug 2017 12:08:47
Ed a few years ago I put into google Liverpool rumours and never looked back thinks you's for your hard work.

26 Aug 2017 12:14:50
Hi eds, I found it by virtue of the fact that many moons ago after I had stopped reading the sports section of the daily rags in my quest for Liverpool related news, I went directly onto the liverpool echo 'liverpool forums' website where I read many readers were commenting on this famous individual called macca who had just said something of huge significance.

Trying to find out what this angel sent down from heaven to earth was how I found the website.

26 Aug 2017 12:15:32
I follow this site for 5, 6 years now I think (joined your community even before registration was required for posting) . I just wanted to know every little rumour that was circulating around so I spend a lot of time on google, at least until I came across your site. Since then, this is the only site I follow. Really good job on everything eds, thanks for everything you guys do.

26 Aug 2017 12:23:58
Through a friend who uses the sight.

26 Aug 2017 12:25:34
I typed, Middle aged, slightly balded man who loves Brazilian foot fetish videos, on google, and it sent me here.

{Ed001's Note - nice to know Ed007's fame is spreading.}

26 Aug 2017 12:30:17
I too did a search for Liverpool rumours and have been hooked ever since. It's the only place to go for reliable information.

26 Aug 2017 12:39:35
Am the same. Googled Liverpool rumours. Found this site about 5 years ago started posting about a year ago. Just brilliant all the eds with there different personalities and info.
Keep up the good work👍🏼.

26 Aug 2017 12:39:58
My mate who seemed to call every transfer we made about a month before they signed put me on to this site. Benitez was still manager at the time. Love Ed01's inside knowledge of the club. Ed02's business knowledge of how the top clubs go about business. Shout out to Macca and Square Tomato for sharing information with us mere mortals.

26 Aug 2017 12:40:02
Virgil Van Dyke told me about it 😉

A pal told me about it, he's been on here probably since it started. 👏.

26 Aug 2017 12:41:16
I am glad I found this site and am always grateful for the public service offered by the Eds. I for one am avoiding all of the ten airports highlighted as dangerous.

26 Aug 2017 12:42:15
I can't remember, how long is the site goin, I remember being on the day Kenny came back as manager.

{Ed001's Note - the original football-rumours site is over 16 years old now. In those days no one talked about the transfers etc, then the likes of the BBC and the Guardian used to feature a snippet from the site each day before they ended up all copying the idea.}

26 Aug 2017 12:43:52
Whilst giggling like a little girl trying to find info regarding Rooney and his fascination with elderly cougars, I accidentally came across this site and ever since I am addicted.

Great job done here by all the Eds it really is a credit to all your efforts. 👍🏻

Still haven't found what I'm looking for ala Rooney though 😜.

{Ed001's Note - the guy to ask would be Mellor.....}

26 Aug 2017 12:32:29
@Ed001. Exactly same. I googled Liverpool transfer rumours and looked at a few but this site is the best by a very very long chalk. Thanks for all the work you and the other Ed's do (and Macca of course) keeps me sane (mostly! ) in the transfer windows!

26 Aug 2017 12:47:53
I used to read the BBC and telegraph rumor pages. Then one day I used Google and found the site. It was in the days of harryscouser, rumors page only, no registration and Ed002 had a major gender identity crisis.

26 Aug 2017 12:50:25
Question for the eds. with Tottenham signing a defender and another one on the way from PSG plus a supposedly £25 million buyout clause for Toby Alderwiereld do you think we could look at him as an alternative?

{Ed002's Note - No, I wouldn't have thought so - and forget all of this "buy out" clause nonsense.}}

26 Aug 2017 12:50:41
I was searching for rodeo clowns in google.

26 Aug 2017 13:06:20
Best site on the interweb! It's a credit to u lot 👍🏼.

26 Aug 2017 13:13:21
Been visiting this site for a few years. Used to be a lot quieter. The rumours were hilarious back then. Like me mates nans cat ran into Kenny Dalglish in the frozen section in asda and he told we are definitely signing aguero and Honda.

{Ed002's Note - I am vey surprised at no one mentiontioning Keisuke Honda this summer.}

26 Aug 2017 13:13:28
Haha u found it couple of years back come lead up an actual transfer window I am on every day.

26 Aug 2017 13:19:28
I've been on here since the days of football rumours which my mate told me about 13/ 14 years ago. Used to spend most my time in ICT class at school reading the rumours pages.

26 Aug 2017 13:36:02
One lonely saturday night I was googling "Liverpool Transgender Roofers" stupid auto spell correct. I don't even like soccer ball. And still no roofer!

26 Aug 2017 13:31:50
I used a non Google search engine for football rumours. It was so long ago (more than 10 years at least) I can't even remember what existed before google.

{Ed002's Note - I recall AltaVista and Lycos.}

26 Aug 2017 13:32:51
Think it was about 7 years ago I came across the general website, I was wanting to know about sterlings youth development with QPR, then came across this via the main website and haven't looked back since! Incredibly addictive, incredibly informative, but slowly driving myself insane clicking refresh. Love the transition the site has taken along the way.

{Ed002's Note - QPR got a little under £8M when he was sold to Manchester City, and, depending on additional monies that come for appearances, success etc. there, Liverpool could yet pay a further £1M to QPR for Sterling.}

26 Aug 2017 13:41:12
Google back in the King Kenny stint. Bringing LFC news, humor, and sometimes frustration to our little Paradise :-)

26 Aug 2017 13:46:01
Can't remember when I first found the site but its been a God send and the best site by far. I've only just registered and this is my first post but have been on it every day for a long time. Found it on Google search and never looked back. Its a pity we weren't as good in the transfer business as the eds are on this site.

26 Aug 2017 13:49:53
Cheers Ed, I think back in the day when Ed 002 was Sharkey (would I be right) before he became all seeing and all powerful 🤔😊.

{Ed002's Note - Omnipotent is the word you are struggling for gmil.}

26 Aug 2017 13:52:11
Found this sight from the original "football-rumours" website, which if I remember correctly was prodominently liverpool posters on there anyway. Then Liverpool rumours had its own tab at the top. must have been following this site for coming up to 10 years now I'm sure!

26 Aug 2017 13:54:42
I typed in fake news and this site came up ;) ok please don't send the mob after me.

26 Aug 2017 14:09:37
I honestly can't remember how I came across football rumours. I use to check out the rumours on ceefax and teletext. Then it cost a fortune calling. This site is Undoubtedly the best find I've made. My Mrs actually thought I was having an affair at one point.

26 Aug 2017 14:12:26
It was a while ago now, must have been through google.

Only one page back then for all football rumours, club pages and banter came later. Keep up the great work Eds.

26 Aug 2017 15:00:16
I discovered it on another dodgy rumours site about 6 years ago. Someone commented on one of its rumours recommending this site and here I am still 6 years later!

Quality site guys and unhealthily addictive!

26 Aug 2017 15:01:48
Back when it was football-rumours.co.uk I am following this site.

26 Aug 2017 15:03:32
When I'm deployed at sea the site works even when the satallite bandwidth was poor, a god send when your away from home for six months. Although finding it to be one of few that works it remains a favourite now as addictive. Also feel I owe ed01 and 02 for keeping me sane when away:-)

26 Aug 2017 15:49:10
In 2009, I think, I searched football transfer rumours out of complete boredom and then the old football-rumours site was among the search results. It's mental that I have spent almost a third of my life reading the site at least once every two days.

26 Aug 2017 20:20:07
I googled "Liverpool rumours" and I saw a link to this site.
Was going through the posts, then came across Ed01 and Ed02 comments and became stuck here.
Outside the rumours, it's the knowledge about everything football that actually interested me.
Ed01 could be a coach and the one time I can remember Ed02 talk about money (transfer fees, tax, agents fee etc), I realised transfers aren't really about "net spend" like every layman says.
If I'd a football club, I would definitely pay both Eds to be a part of it (if they're willing to take the pay cut) .

27 Aug 2017 00:55:32
Yep same ere. googled LFC football rumours. the days of Ken Aguero. Best football site going. appreciate all the work the ed's do with so much abuse they recieve.

26 Aug 2017 11:35:02
Ed are you aware please of any other CB we have made contact with that Macca has aluded to.

{Ed001's Note - we have enquired about a few, Mammana, Koulibaly, VVD for instance. I am sure there was another one but I can't think who off the top of my head.}

26 Aug 2017 11:42:45
It will be VVD.

26 Aug 2017 12:03:14
Cheers ed. I no which one I would like out of them. let's see.

26 Aug 2017 12:16:01
We don't no that for sure Sakho, we are aware of the difficulties dealing with Saints mate. It could be one that has not been mentioned before.

26 Aug 2017 12:51:30
Chances are greater for it to be VVD than anybody else. It's the only win-win option for LFC, Soton and VVD after a wretched summer for all three.

26 Aug 2017 11:30:11
Would be well happy with this transfer window if we landed the Ox and a strong centre half.

For me Ox has always looked a lively and dangerous player who can beat the first man. What he lacks is the final ball, a bit like Salah actually. If Klopp can improve that part of his game he could become a top player. The raw materials are certainly there, just needs a master craftsman to shape them into the finished article.

It was blindingly obvious last season that our bench was simply not good enough to change games when necessary. These 2 would give us enough strength in depth to compete for all major honours.

Don't forget our relatively fewer signings are supplemented with real quality coming through the ranks in the shape of TAA and Gomez.

With some luck Lallana will also be back after Xmas so there is really no excuse to be berating the relative paucity of transfer incomings this summer.

26 Aug 2017 11:53:08
Well balanced post mate. I think people may still be judging Chamberlain on his 2015 form though. His final ball has gone up several levels. His main weakness is his lack of goals. He has a great shot but he just doesn't seem to tally them up consistently.

Last season he claimed 12 assists. His crossing was as good as anyone else's in England and his passing in behind was also very under rated. He set up more goals than any player in our squad. 5 more than even Coutinho managed, 4 more than Lallana, and 1 more than Wijnaldum.

He is a very hard working player who excels on the right wing, and can provide decent cover in attacking midfield or wing back roles. I would be nervous of him in a midfield duo or in the holding role in a 3, but in any attacking midfield/ forward position, i think you'll do well to find a better player at 23 years old.

Conte and Klopp are both prepared to break the £30m barrier for him despite his dwindling contract which says it all for me. Arsenal were prepared to make him one of their top 5 earners.

He has come on leaps and bounds in the last 12-18 months and as a side note, do not underestimate the importance of him being a big Liverpool fan. Players playing for the club they support always seem to find that extra 10% every week. I'm not expecting Flanagan levels of passion, but he will be well up for it every week because he wants to see Liverpool win a league title just as much as we do.

26 Aug 2017 12:03:58
Great post mk mate.

26 Aug 2017 13:00:06
Finally some sense Mk mate. good post. Arsenal fans rate him, wenger rates him, he is homegrown.

26 Aug 2017 13:00:47
Actually let's break down those statistics, in the league he scored two goals and seven assists, which doesn't look quite as good. In fact to say he got more assists than Coutinho is disingenuous. Coutinho had 7 assists and was more than double on key passes and chances created. Another key issue is that his goal scoring output is woeful for an attacking midfielder. That is irrefutable. As for playing in the centre, he lacks the composure, positional sense, passing range, defensive capability and intelligence to play there. Great that he's a Liverpool supporter but we aren't the make a wish foundation.

26 Aug 2017 13:14:32
Lol that key pass stat always makes me laugh. Joke of a stat. He'll be a decent signing. He's no coutinho but we all know there isn't anyone to directly replace him.

26 Aug 2017 13:36:33
I can't figure out if mr Dennis used to be hansons scar, or if they are different people with a very similar view on the Ox
! Who knows?!

26 Aug 2017 13:32:26
So we're just chalking off his Champions league goals and assists as insignificant then? Okay.

Dennis you are well entitled to your opinion mate, but you don't half ram it down everyone's throat. It's a hard push to find a thread that doesn't have a reply from you claiming Ox is a 'delusional wannabe midfielder' nowadays. Like i say, you are free to think that but everyone gets your point now. Take it easy mate because it is turning into a bit of a hate campaign.

26 Aug 2017 14:32:05
Of course we are MK, why include those CL stats when it makes it harder to trash the lad before he has even signed. Refer to Mane, Karius, Wijnaldum from last season.

Ox will be a decent player who if we signed him will probably prove quite a few people wrong. Would he be my choice, probably not but it doesn't mean to say that he will be a bad player, I would prefer to give the game time to Kent/ Woodburn and spend on top CM and CB. For his age though he has good experience and plenty time to improve and I can understand where the appeal is to Klopp in signing him.

26 Aug 2017 10:50:46
VVD, Keita, Seri, AOX . repeatedly the same qns being asked - RTFP!

26 Aug 2017 11:09:50
But are they signing? 😂.

26 Aug 2017 09:57:52
Questions for Ed01, once Couts goes:

1) how do you think our season will go
And
2) who would you replace him with.

{Ed001's Note - I don't do predictions, it is bad luck. We have already replaced him by bringing in Salah and playing Mane where he played.}

26 Aug 2017 10:09:28
Why would we sell now? Yeah let's rub up all the fans by not saying our top targets and insisting Couts isn't for sale up until 5 days to go with absolutely no time to replace him. Ed Salah could be a decent player but he's no Coutinho replacement, nowhere near.

{Ed001's Note - I don't think you understand what I was saying. Oh and having him there alongside Firmino and Mane is a much more potent attack than having Couts there. It suits our style of play much more. He is not the same as Couts, not as good as Couts right now, but he is better for us in the attacking trio.}

26 Aug 2017 10:24:33
Ed I agree with you that Salah makes our front 3 a more balanced attack and understand that's how coutinho has been replaced. But he started the end of last season and the start of pre season in the midfield role more often and reminded us how useful a player with world class vision can be in that role, so are there plans to replacement that role for when he leaves? Appreciate your insight.

{Ed001's Note - yes, Keita.}

26 Aug 2017 10:26:51
Thing is though Ed, we do miss having someone to make an incisive pass. Our midfield lacks anyone with that sort of vision.

{Ed001's Note - yes but that is not the way Klopp likes to play. He prefers quick interchanges at pace. So it really should not be as bad as it seems.}

26 Aug 2017 10:27:53
Thanks Ed.
Appreciate
I personally would have loved to have Courts playing behind the 3 up front with Can and Hendo behind them
Something like a 4 2 1 3 formation

But it is what it is and we move on I suppose.

{Ed001's Note - I would have too, I have said for years he should play deeper, so I am gutted this has happened.}

26 Aug 2017 10:31:54
Isn't the Keita deal a no go now for this season at least? Imagine selling Coutinho and not signing Keita! There will be some very unhappy fans. We were supposed to add to the squad, not deplete its numbers.

{Ed001's Note - I was just pointing out he was meant to be the replacement.}

26 Aug 2017 10:46:08
Has Klopp made any provisions if Coutinho leaves? Backup plan for Keita?
Tbh I'm done with the Coutinho saga. He is a fantastic player but not worth the hassle and disruption. The club has been in the headlines for his antics and not for the effort put in by his team mates for their recent strong performances (the defense aside) . Just sell the rat and sign some decent players.

{Ed001's Note - it is likely that Can will be held onto, when otherwise it is likely the deal would have been done with Juve. That seems to have been the option decided on. Not sure it is ideal, but it gives us a year to develop Grujic and look for other options. The lack of forward planning within the club is appalling to be honest.}

26 Aug 2017 10:58:33
Ed- going forward do you think we would be more suited to hitting teams on the counter?
We struggle to break teams down who arrive at Anfield with a couple of double-deckers.
I believe our front 3 would suit this, as would our overlapping fullbacks.
Our CBs don't though (IMO)

{Ed001's Note - yes mate, Salah and Mane being linked by Firmino should be much better on the counter. The issue is when teams sit back against it, then is when we need something different.}

26 Aug 2017 11:08:09
I think we were all hoping for a different transfer window than what its turning out to be.

We needed 2 or 3 quality signings to improve on our week areas (defense, ability to break down defensive teams), and it hasn't turned out that way, at least not yet.

No one can ever know how things are going to work out, but this is LFC, my beloved club.

If someone doesn't want to be here, then go and good riddance.
For those who want to be here, wear the shirt with pride and give your all when on the pitch

We are LFC and You'll Never Walk Alone.

{Ed001's Note - the window is not shut yet.}

26 Aug 2017 11:17:48
We will struggle against teams who sit back which is why coutinho playing deeper is what we needed.

26 Aug 2017 11:18:04
Ed, I agree that Keita was supposed to be the replacement for Cou at least, CM as Salah was already coming in as the winger Klopp wanted. If Cou stays which I think he will now, Cou would just slot in to thew deeper CM role as Klopp wanted already, right?

{Ed001's Note - that is the plan.}

26 Aug 2017 11:51:44
Also a great plan b is solanke up front with his strength pace heading ability throwing balls in box from wide the likes of robertson trent got sumthin too aim for.

26 Aug 2017 12:14:42
Ed001 this means if we don't sell coutinho keita won't be coming? Can't we have both?

{Ed001's Note - no, it means that Coutinho is expected to leave at some point and Keita was brought in as a long term replacement.}

26 Aug 2017 15:19:06
How people can say we lack players who can make incisive passes after watching our start to the season. I dunno man.

26 Aug 2017 16:30:02
I was going to say the same Faith. Wiji and Firmino have both demonstrated amazing vision already. And hendo's long balls over the top are pretty useful.

26 Aug 2017 09:23:15
Eds.

Is there a benefit till waiting till deadline day.
Always a lot of business done in deadline day and wondered if it drives prices up or down etc.
If a player is sold on deadline day surly he had a prices earlier in the window.

{Ed002's Note - I don';t really understand the question Lee. Clubs would prefer just to get the players out who are going to leave and bring in the players they want as early as possible in order to get them settled.}

26 Aug 2017 09:30:29
I don't see any benefit til waiting until the end of the window, prices go up, teams are less likely to want to sell and it's just disruptive.

26 Aug 2017 13:58:02
Deadline day benefits the selling teams. They get a she*p we only have a few hours, bid excessively we need this to go through" offer from the buying team.

26 Aug 2017 15:18:17
I think depends on the players situation.

Barkley as an example is in the last 12 months of his contract (I think Spurs would like him? ) . Everton want 40/ 50mil which Levy won't pay. Come deadline day, do Everton open negotiations around a much reasonable price or lose him for free next summer?

26 Aug 2017 08:56:19
I can't believe couts agent hasn't come in for massive criticism for this whole transfer saga?

{Ed002's Note - He has come in for criticism to some extent but the kid has himself been itching for the move - many Liverpool fans have escalated the entire matter (again) as they seem to think there is something special about Liverpool players - there isn't. Many just don't get it at all. It is not helped by Balague and his off and on again statements and having a fan base who worship the great god Twitter.}

26 Aug 2017 09:30:20
Ron I think the question should have been, will he play for LFC? Not will it make him play better?

26 Aug 2017 09:47:39
Thanks for your reply Ed As you say couts has been yearning for a move for over a year now then why advise him to sign a 5 year deal only 6 months ago especially with no buy out clause (ie Neymar) Ron had he done this this saga would have been over and done with so he advised him badly in my opinion and is still giving him bad advice leaving couts to take the shite on his own. I don't blame couts or Barcelona in any of this btw. One other thing you may say is that no one expected Psg to meet meet Neymars buy out clause well that's his job surely to try and put his client in a position if such a situation should happen that he could then push through a move for couts with no problem.

{Ed002's Note - Why are people so obsessed about the contract - it is of no relevance to thi matter at all. There would be no "buy out" clause in England and it is nothing whatsoever to do with the transfer of Neymar.}

26 Aug 2017 09:53:04
Edd002 what's the your opinion on balague?

{Ed002's Note - He is a pleasant man.}

26 Aug 2017 10:10:44
I misread the original post. I thought it said that Coutinho himself should be criticised.
His agent has acted poorly imo but is probably doing it under instruction.

26 Aug 2017 10:55:21
No probs Ron.

26 Aug 2017 10:06:37
Ok fair enough Ed2. Do you know why we don't have buy out clauses in the uk but they do on the continent?

{Ed002's Note - They rarely do anywhere, the reason being is that the players would not have the money to buy themselves out of the contract, it increases wages and means pretty much nothing.}

26 Aug 2017 07:04:36
Eds, a question for you. How do the other players view the couts debacle? Are they just happy to support him or are they also annoyed at the way he has gone about it? If you know of course. Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - they are staying out of it mate.}

26 Aug 2017 08:23:48
Players don't comment on such things. It's Cou's business and his money and his future. You don't wanna be messing with other people's money, bro.

26 Aug 2017 10:46:06
Unless your Pique then you can constantly say whatever bit of dribble comes into your mind.

26 Aug 2017 11:22:14
Pique is not PC's teammate so he can say what he likes.

26 Aug 2017 11:59:45
I was referring to his involvement in the neymar saga actually.

26 Aug 2017 01:30:56
I think that it's not just the Coutinho situation that has been taken behind doors. If there is anything happening with VVD, Keita and Ox (and anybody else we don't know about) then it too has been taken out of the public's view. The club has seen what having leaks and and an openness with the Press has given them - mostly eggs on face that they haven't wiped off yet. Just look at Klopp's face, voice and expression when the Coutinho name is brought up in conferences. The volume goes down, his face is without expression and he seems to be almost mumbling "nothing has changed". The man is clearly operating under instructions to keep quiet.

You could argue that FSG have made a statement and are simply sticking by it. But the situation is at the point of no return and Coutinho no longer has a tenable position. I don't see Coutinho playing for the U23's or sitting on the bench after 1st September. Nor being able to listen to 58,000 booing fans if he is allowed to enter a match. You can do that with a Sakho, simply because he was less important to the team.

If I was a betting man (and I'm not) then I would bet that the club have been working behind the scenes to get something done with VVD and Keita, and then to come out and release Coutinho so that statements and declarations are quickly forgotten.

26 Aug 2017 04:52:11
I don't expect the crowd to boo him if he stays. I will support him as a Liverpool player until he moves on.

26 Aug 2017 08:37:27
Ra, Suarez did way worse that Cou would ever do and he was not booed in his first game at Anfield so don't fret, bro. Cou right now, is like a family member who crossed us and tho we are disappointed and angry with him on one hand, we as family, realize that he is still at the end of the day, one of ours and we will forgive and support him as he tries to make amends (provided he is trying) for his sins. It will be a long process BUT in the end, cooler heads will prevail cos like it or not, he has grown on us over the years and that in itself, should change nothing overall. If you inject too much emotion into it, you cannot make rational decisions.

25 Aug 2017 21:28:38
Hi ed1,

Not sure if you've answered this but would you rather us keep coutinho or sell him on like he wants? Surely his attitude/ feelings for the club will effect the rest of the camp this season if he stays?

{Ed001's Note - I would prefer to sell him. If he wants to go and play for a gimmick, rather than take his opportunity to become a legend, bye bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out.}

26 Aug 2017 04:27:42
I second that, Ed01.

26 Aug 2017 04:31:13
Honest question Ed, would you still sell him if we were unable to bring in a replacement this window?

{Ed001's Note - yes. I don't want players who prefer to go to inferior clubs when they have already reached the pinnacle.}

26 Aug 2017 04:41:20
Well said Ed.

26 Aug 2017 06:48:04
My thoughts exactly ed1.

26 Aug 2017 07:19:39
Exactly, all this nonsense about letting him rot on the bench etc us childish. We have sold better players than pipco and better players than him will come again. So let the little fella free so he can soare to mid table with Barcelona while we go on and win the champions league. Any of this sound familiar? Mssrs owen regretted doing the very same thing.

26 Aug 2017 07:22:44
Ed01 you are joking when you say inferior aren't you? Barcelona might well be an ageing squad but they're a far bigger club than we are. Until we start competing in the transfer market with the big clubs we'll continue hovering between 4th and 7th, we're not club we once were and it's getting embarrassing how we conduct ourselves and how most fans think every year is going to be our year. I've seen first hand the success we've had and how far we've fallen. Players want to play at the highest level and if he wants to go let him hopefully he goes onto win the he probably won't ever do with us. Until we start winning things we'll always loose our top players, that's football.

{Ed001's Note - bigger? Barcelona are not a club they are a gimmick, blatantly pushing a Catalan agenda to get fans. They are inferior to any other football club because they are based on a lie. They would be absolutely finished if Catalonia was independent but they pretend to support the independence as it helps their fanbase. As for the rest it is nothing to do with this and we are playing at the highest level, so you are simply wrong.}

26 Aug 2017 07:22:48
I think the problem for us will be that he'll no longer be committed to the cause (think about what Klopp has said about wanting players to push the train rather than jump on when its already at full speed) and will arguably hate the club now for denying him his 'dream' move. I can understand people wanting to believe he'll give us another year and put everything into it but I can't see that happening, he's burnt his bridges and he'll just have his eye on the exit next summer anyway. I'd get rid now, and hope to bring someone in that actually wants to be here. Phillippe can live in Messi's shadow if he wishes, if the price is right.

26 Aug 2017 07:44:24
Are you readng this pipco well said ed.

26 Aug 2017 07:48:45
Bang on Ed couldn't agree more . Like Ed02 has said in the past, players and the manager are transient employees and support.

26 Aug 2017 07:49:54
I agree with you Ed001 on 99% of the things you say on this site. And I'm not creeping btw.

But I feel if we sell him in this window, it's puts the club in a weak position especially after coming out and publicly saying he won't be sold at any price. Other players will look at this and think, if I want to leave and the club say I'm not for sale, push hard enough and I'll get my way. For me, the club should have said nothing and not released a statement.

Players have to start respecting their clubs and the clubs need to start standing firm. I would like VVD to arrive but if Southampton stand firm then I have total respect for them I don't so.

{Ed001's Note - I really do not care what players think, they are irrelevances. The club is the only thing I care about.}

26 Aug 2017 08:46:18
I wouldn't sell him cos for a couple of reasons and they are all football-related. If you sell him now, we will be weakened on the pitch esp. if we don't get his replacement in. That is fact one. Secondly, if you sell him now, we will be sending the wrong message to the dressing room that "hey, if you wanna force a move, just do what Cou did and you'll get your wish". Sometimes, it's the principle that counts and you have to stand up and say, "No" esp. if said player signed a new deal 6 months ago, took all the wages and bonus that may have come with that along with the agent fee, and now say "I want out" so you can get another bonus and your agent gets another agent fee hence, screwing us on both ends. NO FREAKING WAY!

If you wanted to leave, you shouldn't have signed the new deal like Lukaku did not sign one with Everton and was allowed to leave. I love what FSG is doing and if he stays, he will have to get his head down, put his big boy pants on and get to work.

{Ed002's Note - There is nothing about messages to the dressing room. This is a business as usual transfer that may or may not go ahead. There is nothing special about it at all because Liverpool are involved. And it is nothing whatsoever to do with any signing of any damn contract. It is cringeworthy reading all of these nonsense posts.}

26 Aug 2017 10:47:14
Ed01 they are one of the biggest draws in football irrespective of their politics. We are not playing at the highest level as if we were we would of won the premier league and competing for it every year instead of fighting for a top four finish. There's atleast four other clubs ahead of us in the premier league at the moment as much as it hurts to say but I'm a realist.

{Ed001's Note - I don't think you understand so I won't waste my time, only anyone can see the highest level is being in the Champions League. You may have missed it, but Barca struggled last season, and it is only that Atletico were also struggling that they were in the top 2 in a 2 team league. However you carry on pretending you are being realistic, while conveniently forgetting that the TV market for Liverpool - Man Utd games dwarves El Clasico for a reason.}

26 Aug 2017 11:06:21
Lfc till I die. Barcelona are as bad as they come. The way they sign players is a disgrace to football and it's not a new thing.
Suarez, masch, fabregas, Sanchez, dembele. coutinho.

They unsettle and tell players to act out to get a move. they do it blatantly and without pretence. we at least tried to pretend we didt.

They were did get in signing neymar and have already had a transfer ban.

I'd like us to now sell coutinho. but to anyone but them. even if we took 20 million less. get on the phone to real.

Ranting now, so I apologise. but Barcelona can suck my balls. hope they crash and burn this season with their over the hill team.

26 Aug 2017 12:21:29
Ok then ed01 who would you say are the ten top clubs in European football the will draw the best players? For me and in no particular order it would be.

Barcelona
Real Madrid
Bayern Munich
Man U
Chelsea
Man City
Juventus
Psg
Atletico Madrid
And I'm struggling for a tenth but if I'm honest I don't think we have the pulling power we once had. You're right playing in the champions league is competing with the best but we don't play in it every season and that's my point.

{Ed001's Note - I really don't care, you still don't get it, you are talking about a totally different thing from me and just talking like it is FIFA or FM. No one gives a toss who is the biggest in reality. PSG are a minor club but they managed to take one of Barca's favoured players. Life isn't as simple as you are trying to make it and Liverpool are still a major draw, just ask VVD, Keita, Oxlade-Chamberlain etc.}

26 Aug 2017 12:46:23
Would have a clue about football games I don't play them, you're the one who doesn't get it. I agree psg are I minor club and can't see why players go there other than for money but what I'm saying is they are a more attractive club than us hence why they sign better players fact.

{Ed001's Note - whatever. This is pointless. You are just a typical pessimist who fails to see anything positive. PSG have had a whole slew of players turn them down but you are so busy whining about Liverpool not being a big draw that you have missed that. LFC have not had a problem getting players to want to join, it is the finances that are the issue. You clearly know nothing of the real world or how big the club is, just ask Salah how Egypt sees Liverpool. Or come to the UAE, particularly Dubai, and you will see how they have a massive support. Iran, Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia etc.}

26 Aug 2017 13:08:46
So someone has a different opinion to you and you resort to belittling them just to make your point better. I'll leave it here you're quite right this is pointless the fact you can't grasp that barcelona are a bigger club than we are. You don't know me yet you make assumptions to try and prove your point, you'll always come out on top as you're the owner of this site and people darent disagree with you. I've never been a pessimist, a realist yes. I love our club and I'm genuinely sad to see how far we've fallen away. Enjoy the rest of your day.

{Ed001's Note - what are you on about? Not once did anyone but you go on about Liverpool being a bigger club. That is the whole point, you were just being an arse and jumping on something that wasn't there. Inferior I said. Wasting my time with you because you clearly did not understand a bloody word. I hate people like you who want to jump on and cause an argument over something that wasn't even there then whine like little bitches when they are given stick about it. If you are unable to grasp basic English then this is a waste of time. This is why I barely bother with this site any more, too many people stirring up arguments because they have no comprehension of what is said and misread everything to start a fight. It is not difficult for anyone with a reading comprehension above age of 3 to see that inferior does not refer to size or I would have called them a smaller club, not an inferior one.}

26 Aug 2017 15:15:46
but if the door does hit him on the way out well done to the door fitter for tightening the springs.

25 Aug 2017 23:53:02
7 minutes left before the days over. Where is this big amazing news? 😂.

26 Aug 2017 00:06:34
Sparky the wonderdog has had his toe glands done.

26 Aug 2017 14:38:06
Haven't you seen the adverts for the x factor build up?

This is what keeps us clinging on here.

The anticipation over hairy Simons comments far outweigh our transfer dilemma.

Get with the 21st century man!

26 Aug 2017 19:58:02
😂😂😂 fair point Davey
Could have also been the Celeb BigBrother winner xD.