Liverpool Banter Archive March 25 2014

25 Mar 2014 22:55:38
hey reds I am coming from australia and I was supposed to have tickets but it fell through
does anyone know where I can get 2 or 3 tickets

Aussie I think you'll really struggle to get them via the main networks now. Try special ticket sites etc

You may want to add Match Tickets no touts on facebook, a lot of fans of all clubs are selling or even in some cirrcumstances giving away match tickets for free rather than allow touts to make a coin off each club, I kno personally some people who have gotten tickets from the site, a few of my lower blue mates got free tickets for Newcastle away last night, by mates I obvs mean at the bottom of my shoe haha, jokes, give it a go, I only mentioned this as I kno we have a lot of travelkling fabns who don't always get the chance to get tickets and hope that this site or fb page can be of help to those who find it!

25 Mar 2014 22:14:19
To the tune of the Yaya/Kolo song-

Laugh at, laugh at laugh at, laugh at laugh at, laugh at David Moyes!

25 Mar 2014 22:04:32
Ed001 can you think of a player in the premier league that you really like but wouldn't want at Liverpool? Mine would be Snodgrass, anyone other posters think of any?

{Ed001's Note - certainly not Snodgrass, he takes average to a whole new level. I can't think of one off the top of my head, sorry, I am sure there must be one or two though.}

LOL. I like Snodgrass as well for some weird reason. My other one is Albrighton. I really like the kid although I really have no idea why.

He is average which makes Norwich look even worse this season haha

For me, that player would be Youssouf Mulumbu. Really like him, but not sure if he would improve our squad so much.

Another choice? Not a player, but I can certainly think of a manager (clue- he's a football genius!)

{Ed001's Note - I have to admit, the Moyesiah is growing on me more and more as the season goes on too. It takes some amount of brilliance to spend £68m on two players and not have a clue what to do with them.}

Crouchy for obvious reasons :-)

Also purely because we don't need him but I'm a big fan of koseilny too, Moyes could make messi look bad at the moment I mean can they really trust him with transfers in the future?

Or to take the Champions, add £70M in players, and then subsequently finish below your old club.

I'd say United have been Moyedered. (apologies, just couldn't help myself)

Ed001, when did I say David Moyes? I was obviously talking about Gary Megson!

{Ed001's Note - you couldn't possibly mean him as everyone would want him given the chance!}

You're right Edward 001. You have to love the spirit at Manchester United. The only thing is, Fergie drank it all before he left!

To leave Everton and then for the first time in PL history they finish above united is beyond hilarious if it happens!

I know he's playing mata out wide which isn't his favoured position, but what has he done, zip! Due respect to moyes for selling a sub for nearly 40 million to be fair to him. Pains me to say that. Many other players just haven't performed at all. They have to take some of the responsibility.

When he was still playing PL football it would have been Taarabt, hands down. Now probably David De Gea

Huddleston, I think he's a good player when given a chance to play, but wouldn't be an improvement on our 2 holding mids now

Weimann, much like Lallana of last year, plays really well every time I watch him live, so could in theory have a Lallana-type season where his value heightens to >£20m. That said he seems to be subbed every other game and receive a 4/5 match rating so I doubt he'd benefit the team in anyway

The player I really like is Tomas Rosicky.
I would not want him at Liverpool as I feel we have better options.

25 Mar 2014 20:52:40
Not LFC related but have to say smashing run and goal by Ross Barkley, looks a bit special, a potential Gerrard or Toure maybe?

Such a shame he is an evertonian

(In my opinion)

25 Mar 2014 20:41:20
If Arsenal loose today, I could see Everton joining us in the Top 4

25 Mar 2014 19:24:21
Come on ManU! Show us there still some spunk left in the old devil.

They are so far firing blanks.

Another Dolly Parton performance from united, the tits were all over the place.

I know we could of done with a Manchester United win last night (As painful as that sounds)!

But how nice is it seeing them play so poor. LOL

I am loving the rapid decline.

All hail Moyes!

25 Mar 2014 18:07:26
Looking at our fixtures, I feel as though we're going to be considered favourites for every one of them, which is obviously good. However, after winning 6 in a row, and having 8 left, it just seems too unrealistic for us to win 14 games in a row - then again, never say never.

On the plus side, city have got to play united, Everton, arsenal and of course, us away from home, which will be no easy task, as their away form suggests. Hands up if you could imagine wanting united and Everton to win at the beginning of the season!

Chelsea have the easiest run of fixtures on paper. I hope they make it through to the semis of the champions league. Every distraction will be all the more welcome by us.

Arsenal will surely prioritise the FA cup now that it looks unlikely they will win the league, and also have to play at Everton, so it looks like Everton are going to have a massive say on our final finishing position!

All in all, let's not forget we've made tremendous strides this season, and even finishing third would be a brilliant achievement for BR and the lads.

Arsenal will prioitise the Champs League IMO - look at their form since Wenger joined them; Champs League = players wanting to join - FA CUP is good (not undermining it) but the money and prestige is in the Champs League IMO.

25 Mar 2014 18:03:21
I used to like poyet but he has pi55ed me of today saying with out Suarez we would be mid table we were flying first 6 games with out him and hey do people not realisd with out him we will have 70million or more like rogers has helped Suarez become a better player to if you ask me especially his finishing

I used to like poyet too until I seen that I was wanting him to keep sunderland up but now I hope he's flushed lije the turd he is hopefully we can help to put them in more trouble

Flushed line the turd he is : D Love it giblet!

Abolute person!
We have got an awesome team at the moment.
And I think it is quite difficult to find weaknesses in the starting 11.
We just need to bulk up the numbers to gain a better bench

(In my opinion)

25 Mar 2014 17:58:27
Poyet "Liverpool would be a mid table team if it weren't for Suarez" & he wished he gets "ill" before the game.
Id hate to have a bitter manager in charge of our club.

Poyet is a nice guy, he supported Suárez in the Evra case and always seems decent. I disagree with him, but he does have a point. And he was joking when he said he hoped Suárez got ill mate :)

People easily forget the run we had when he was suspended.

He is Uruguayan, he's probably just supporting Suarez rather than slating Liverpool although it appears this way

Just like Sunderland would have been relegated already without Borini. Haha.

Sunderland would be a mid table side if they had Suarez.
But they don't so they're going down.

25 Mar 2014 14:05:49
Could an ed clarify this for me please. Right, so Gerrard gets a 2 game ban if he gets a yellow.
However, there's only a one game ban for 2 yellow in a game, providing it's not violent conduct.
If Gerrard got 2 yellows, would it be 3 match ban? Or would getting sent of via 2 yellows actually help him?
Either way, I think he should take a yellow tonight so he's available for city and Chelsea, we beat spurs without him 5-0.

{Ed001's Note - the ban for number of yellow cards is on top of any ban he may possibly get for a second yellow card in a match, for instance.}

Ok cheers.
We've seen a certain manager at a certain Spanish club purposely ask his players to take a yellow in the past. Do you see BR asking Gerrard to take one? I can't see him going the next 3 games without a yellow tbh, would you rather he missed spurs and west ham?

{Ed001's Note - I would rather he just played his normal game and see what happens. Once you start asking someone to deliberately get a yellow, you are treading on dangerous ground. It is so easy to then pick up a second or for the yellow to be deemed a red.}

I remember a few years ago Xabi Alonso got a very suspicious yellow at the end of a game for kicking a ball away when he gave away a free kick. It happens, but I don't think Gerrard will do something like that - I think he will try to see it through till April with his 9 yellows.

If he goes clear tonight and can manage another clear against Spurs I would put him on the bench for West Ham as a precaution. Second worst scenario he gets a yellow tonight and misses Spurs & West Ham. Worst scenario he gets one against Spurs and misses West Ham & Man City. Get Lucas in there early second half tonight to be safe.

If he hadn't stupidly (and arrogantly) removed his shirt after scoring one of his goals we wouldn't need to worry about him getting another yellow. It shows that these silly actions sometimes come back to bite you. At the same time he, or any other team member, could get injured and miss more than a couple of games. Let's just take things as they come and hope for some good results.

{Ed001's Note - it wasn't arrogant! It was excitement.}

I'd say the worst scenario is getting one against west game actually, then missing Chelsea and city games

25 Mar 2014 20:17:21
If it were me, I would have removed my boots, socks, shorts, pants, AND shirt!
If ya going to get a yellow anyway, might as well go the whole hog!

I can understand him getting exciting and taking his shirt off. I would if I had Alex at home. What I can't understand is why any player has to remove his shirt after scoring a goal especially in the knowledge that he is going to receive a yellow card. Don't put it down to excitement. It took more than 100 years before somebody decided that it was the thing to do and is really pointless as they only have to put it back on again!

{Ed001's Note - who cares? If a player wants to celebrate by flinging his shirt away, good on him. It is all good. The ruling is idiotic, only brought in because shirts used to have layers making it difficult to put them back on. Now they no longer have layers, taking their shirt off is not going to stop the game for ten min while they put it back on.}

It was brought in to stop Ryan Giggs ever doing his Planet of the Apes impression again ed.
So it has to be a good thing.

{Ed001's Note - it was because of a United player thinking about it. Was it Forlan who spent 20min trying to get his top back on after scoring?}

26 Mar 2014 01:22:32
It was Forlan, heres the proof,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s_oJaFXVrE

{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, I wasn't sure, so glad to get that cleared up.}

If it was excitement over arrogance then thank God it was his shirt and not his pants!

25 Mar 2014 12:47:35
Regarding Luke Shaw,
We all agree he's a quality player, and he is someone I never considered for Liverpool because the big spenders will be sniffing around.

But.
If you are Luke Shaw (I don't think I am being biased here) and you get the following options.

1. Utd - Regular Starter / No Champs League
2. Chelsea - Rotation? Might not start every game? / Champs League
3. City - Rotation? Might not start every game? / Champs League
4. Arsenal - Regular Starter? / Champions League
5. Liverpool - Regular Starter? / Champions League

I'm not sure if Arsenal are interested, or even if we are, but if he is looking for his best future, I would think it would be between us and Arsenal.
If you factor what Rodgers has done in a year to turn us around, then that might be enough.

This does reply on:

1. Us being interested
2. Us having the money to match the big teams bid

I would be interested to hear what the Eds and Reds think about the above though?

Thanks

{Ed001's Note - why would he be rotated at Chelsea? He would start most games for them and he supports them. Then you have to factor in that we simply can't afford to buy him. Just a wet dream with no basis in reality at all.}

25 Mar 2014 13:08:17
Shaw is great, but he is not £30m great. I personally think he'll burn out like Michael Owen. With the type of wing back he is, he needs his pace and it won't last with him playing twice a week in the Premier League from the age of 17. I'd pay £15m for him, but no more and Southampton just wouldn't accept that.

I hate the idea of a quick fix, but is there any chance we could just go for experience Ed and bring in a player like Ashley Cole on a short term contract? I'm asking this as I really rate Brad Smith, Flanno and McLaughlin and although the latter two are not strictly left backs, it could still hinder there progress if we sign an expensive long term solution. Rodgers was happy to draft in Toure for experienced centre back cover so I wouldn't entirely rule it out, but I am not as in the know as you lot!

{Ed001's Note - wages are far too high for Cole to be an option, unless he is willing to take a substantial pay cut.}

Ed - I don't think he would start ahead of Azpil I can't remember the rest of it? And Ivanovich has nailed down the right back spot for years, so Azpil wouldn't be moved across, especially since Jose loves the physicality of his players.

I would see Shaw as 2nd choice left back, and in fairness, Azpil+9 is a very very good player. Been one of the standout fullbacks this season, if not the standout for me.

{Ed001's Note - Ivanovic is not nailed down at right back, Azpilicueta would move across if Shaw was signed.}

25 Mar 2014 13:44:46
Shaw is great, But with 30 mill, we would get a decent Lb and a good LW, that's more than shaw alone.

25 Mar 2014 13:59:51
Shaw will move to london! Lfc I believe isn't an option for him!

Saying he would be rotated at Chelsea seems like a stretch and, despite the options given, there is also the small issue of a £30mil+ transfer fee and what are likely to be equally exorbitant wage demands. I don't see us blowing what would likely be our entire transfer kitty on a left back whom has made it pretty obvious he wants tom play for Chelsea.

Agree with you Seano - would love to see him here but it's not going to happen and until we're at least breaking even I can't see us breaking the bank for one player - unless we can through sales.

In my opinion he is nowhere near worth the money required to get him. A lot of good players struggle when they step up to a "big" club, and at such a high fee, the pressure would be immense. Too risky for the money - buy two decent squad players for that. He is another young British player overhyped in my opinion.

25 Mar 2014 10:36:32
Gerrard is facing a 2 game ban so its likely he will miss 1 of these 3 teams
Spurs city or Chelsea
Gets a yellow tonight misses spurs and west ham back for city so what's people's ideal answer what would be the best thing to do

Not get a yellow card and play all the games?

After seeing a referee sending off the wrong player I would not be at all surprised to see Gerrard get booked in the Manchester derby tonight.

Also can I add that if Gerrard avoids getting a yellow untill April the 13th the ban will not include cheers

Wait and see if he actually gets a ban first then stick Lucas in as a like for like replacement. Easy.

Hope he doesn't get booked to night. But if he does it will have to be by the police cause we're playing 2mara night!!! YNWA come on the reds.

Did Gerrard get booked for taking his shirt off after scoring the penalty in injury time against Fulham?

25 Mar 2014 09:18:28
Is there anybody that just can't bring themselves to wish for a Utd win tonight, even though it's the result that is best for our chances in the league? For the first time in my life I am hoping for a Utd win. They are an irrelevance at the moment with no chance of catching us or making the top four but if they take points of City, we are in the unbelievable position of knowing that if we were to win all eight of our remaining matches, we would win the league (I'm not suggesting this is a likely outcome but what a great position it would be to be in).

I think every lfc fan will want a united win tonight

I wanted man united to beat Everton in 2005 they lost lucky enough we won the champions league

I am wishing for a United win tonight. Now I'm going to have a shower, I feel sooooo dirty.

A United win will also prolong the agony of moyes I would imagine also.

Cant bring myself to support them regardless. Hoping for a draw, that will accomplish all that's needed.

I am not supporting a United win, I'm supporting a City loss.

I want a United win, so knowing that lot as I do, they will bloddy lose tonight. They never do us favours, it's not the way the football gods behave. City win for me, but praying they lose.

Draw will do for me. Could never root for them in all honesty just doesn't sit right with me.

By the looks of it I think they'll lose anyway, so I'm now hoping for a drubbing and a few suspensions for city.

25 Mar 2014 06:45:07
Good morning Eds and Reds

BR has come out and said that a new contract for GJ is priority in the summer? Heres me thinkink with what's been said he won't get a new contract as his wages are too high all ready? Eds have you seen a big improvement in his game or was he always going to get a new deal?

{Ed002's Note - I don't see replacing him as a priority. We are heading down the usual road of the posters wanting everyone replaced in each window.}

Maybe he will be offered a a 1 or 2 year extension to his contract under reduced terms?

Thanks Ed

Im not one of those who wants half the squad replacing tbh i'm well happy with the vast majority of players we have and I think loaning players out to gain experiance is a good thing. I also think that GJ looks like he has returned from injury with a bit more about him. Left back is an obvious area that we need to look at strengthening in the summer.

I imagine it will be a lot less than what he's currently on, if a deal can be struck. I think it's half the reason he's really trying hard lately

I'm definitely not one calling for all new players every window, but I think we've seen the best of GJ come and go. He's too inconsistent and imo doesn't offer a real attacking threat or defensive stability. We can at least make a few million off him now and reduce the wage bill for other potential signings this summer.

If he reduces his wage demands he is worth keeping. We don't have the money for a massive squad overhaul and it seems obvious that our left side (Both LB & LMid/Lwing) needs more focus. I've been very unimpressed with Johnson this season and was saying only yesterday that he doesn't deserve a new contract HOWEVER we need to be strategic in our squad management and transfer policy. On review it makes sense to try and maintain Johnson's services for at least next season.