Liverpool Banter Archive January 25 2014

25 Jan 2014 22:23:04
I hope we can sign MARCHISIO from juve he is a class act, should cost around 15 mill.
i doubt he would be willing to leave italy and juve for us.
he is currently 28, I am sure Liverpool would get a solid 4 years from him.

25 Jan 2014 21:37:00
Just heard David Moyes was at Bayern v M.Gladbach game. is he there to watch Shaqiri? Hope not, as he may have been a target! Who knows.

{Ed002's Note - This was yesterday and you can read all about it on the MU pages.}

Probably not Shaqiri if they already have Mata

I'm surprised that Moyes knew where he was, bless him.

Probably took a wrong turn on the way home and, somehow, wound up in the channel tunnel.#stuffonlydavidmoyescoulddo

25 Jan 2014 20:43:52
Well Eds, great to be back on the site, pity about the news with Salah if true.

Reading back on the posts of who we have interest in but I suppose with a little bit to go in the window has any of the Eds anything new to update on any Liverpool incoming transfers or is all quite coming out of the club?

Most trusted source on the web, thanks a mill from all supporters for all your info and insight.

Mikey LFC

{Ed002's Note - Nothing today.}

25 Jan 2014 20:36:16
Edd001, do you think we have enough quailty in midfield when all fit to compete against the top teams consistantly? And what team in your opinion in the PL has the stronge st midfield? Thanks

{Ed001's Note - not really, our midfield is a bit lacking in bite. Man City's is probably the best, though Spurs run them close.}

We need midfield back up and we will be fine. Attack is fine and the basics of the back 4 are ok, trouble is the midfield is lightweight or lacking defensive cover. Henderson can't hit a barn door, couthino needs a rest and Stevie is fantastic passer and hero, but not a tracking defensive midfielder any more

25 Jan 2014 20:08:42
Everyone knows I'm a big fan but Jesus, Henderson needs to get some composure in front of goal.
He probably buries those 95% of the time in training so I doubt it's technique, he just needs to keep a cool head and bang them in. He would be a perfect player if he started scoring all them chances.

Coutinho too!

Yes Mickey if he'd put a few of his chances he's had this season it would be nice

Yeah he is a bit like a rabbit in the headlights when he has a goalscoring oppertunity, hoping he learns to sit or else improves.

25 Jan 2014 19:50:44
Hi eds great job as usel I no u said to forget about salah but with rodgers saying he hasn't given up and loads of talk about Liverpool signing him still meleylfc on twitter said there's another twist apperently relaible but your best info can u add anything thanks

25 Jan 2014 20:44:11
Somewhere in the world right now Ed02 is reading this and head butting his keyboard haha.

25 Jan 2014 18:57:10
So now Rodgers says Salah deal may still go through and LFC haven't given up the pursuit! Is there a danger that we will continue to chase this (seemingly) dead issue and lose focus on other potential loans or buys? Eds any truth do you think?

Read that Chelsea offered a lot more than the reported £11m. A lot more.
If that's right, we did the right thing to leave it.

Why Brendan's still mentioning it in the media I don't know.
Just keep quiet, if he pulls it off then great he can sit there with a big fat grin.
If not then he's going to look like a fool and if he does bring in plan B they will always be known as that to a lot of people.

25 Jan 2014 18:44:24
Options left for us in this window are.

E. Banega.
A. Yarmalenko.
F. Coentroa.
Y. Konoplyanka.
X. Shaqiri.
Romolu.

I'm confident at least one will arrive before the window shuts.

Dont hold ya breath my friend

I'd prefer the last two but i'm afraid that BR speech "we will give youth a chance" sounds too similar to the one we heard after the disappointment of his first summer transfer window, when everyone left around dinner time on transfer deadline day & BR looked like he wanted to reenact that Cuba Gooding jr scene from Boyz and the hood.

ed's please show the link below for effect :D (ADD AN EXTRA 'w')

ww.youtube.com/watch?v=ClXJY53rV8E

25 Jan 2014 18:14:07
Im not being bitter after missing out on Salah (maybe a little bit) and if our pursuit of Shaqiri is accurate then I for one would be ecstatic. He is exactly what we need on the left side of midfield. Power, pace, guile, scores goals, has a work ethic and he's quite a good looking chap also! It would free coutinho to play centrally and we'd have a fabulous balous to our play. Add a defensive midfielder in the mold of Madel and top 4 is a real possibility. I doubt bayern would loan shaqiri let alone sell him even if thy were to listen to offers can you really expect Ian Ayre to tie up a deal in 7 days before transfer deadline day when he had months to work on Salah. Ayre really has to get on his bike (literally) and leave the transfers to an expert. i'm tired off hearing we have the money to buy any player in the world so if that's the case why don't we buy some surely there must be some players that want to move in January that don't care about their world cup place because they now they will be picked by the national team. If we have the money to buy anyone why don't we spend $20 million on medel. Surely he will not hinder his world cup chances playing for Liverpool rather than cardiff?

I think perhaps you've only heard 'we have the money to buy anyone' in your head. Nowhere near what Werner said, which is who I am guessing you are massively misquoting.

Is Shaqiri not a right winger?

25 Jan 2014 17:35:38
hey edd is the chelsea /salah deal on hold because of game time and do you expect it to be sorted?

{Ed002's Note - No, they are awaiting some paperwork before he can come to England to sign the contract.}

25 Jan 2014 17:30:01
Has muhamad salah signed for anyone yet?

{Ed002's Note - Not yet.}

25 Jan 2014 18:38:06
so there's still a chance.lol

25 Jan 2014 18:50:37
Do Liverpool still have a chance.

Theres two hopes I think you know the rest!

25 Jan 2014 17:16:57
Just wondering, is there any truth to the interest in Shaqiri. If so, do you reckon bayern would listen to offers considering robben and muller being ahead of him in selection?

25 Jan 2014 16:38:53
Eds sorry to ask but who are we actually looking at? Everyone seems to b unavailable

{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

We are quite good at "looking" at players. Fernando, M'Vila, Will Hughes, Salah, Yarmalenko, Badu, Tello, Darlow, Rakitic are among the players we "looked" at.

Have I missed anyone?

Maybe we should move to the next stage?
After looking, you should approach, start conversation, hopefully have the option to buy them a drink, a little dance and share a taxi home.
The rest? Is as they say, history!

If only.

Or just do the Chelsea and slip them some money, the rest as you say Phooey is history.

25 Jan 2014 16:10:54
Eds, I guess it's more than likely a no, but do you see anyone from Liverpool leaving in this window?

{Ed002's Note - Only the loans.}

25 Jan 2014 15:03:48
Two signings I think we need in Jan:

Yann M'villa £8-9m

Xerdan Shaqiri on loan

Wouldn't say no, unfortunately it won't happen.

Shaqiri yes, M'Vila has a lot to do to win me over.

Wouldn't mind but one any of M'vila, De Jong or Romulo would do. Plus Shaqiri on loan would be a huge bonus.

Yann M'villa has been mentioned so many times at here.
Do you guys actually all following russian league? From what I seen when he plays for French he is USELESS

25 Jan 2014 14:56:28
eds did Liverpool actually make a bid for salah or not?

{Ed002's Note - An offer was made for the player, yes.}

25 Jan 2014 13:46:36
I am still flabbergasted by people slating Moses who is by far a better technical player than Hendo will ever be. Sendo hasn't made a single tackle any decent pass or cross. I am not just talking about this game. I have specificly watched him over the last couple of games to try and see what the Hendo fans see in him to warrent his place in the team. He may be a decent player but not in my opinion for the position he plays. I would prefer Allen to him any day of the week.

Henderson plays better if Gerrard isn't on the pitch.

Henderson has been constant all year and has been a huge part of what we have done well, he's tireless, enthusiastic, has a physical presence and wants to play for the shirt. If you don't think he has technique, did you not see the back heel to Sturridge against Villa? Sorry but Moses is no better than Downing.

Something else Gerrards fault now! Maybe it's something in Hendersons mental makeup if Gerrards prescence hinders him .

I'm still flabbergasted that people still slag hendo considering he has been every present this season and works his backside off running himself into the ground covering ridiculous amounts of work for others that can't get around the pitch

First of all, are you really comparing Moses and Henderson? Since when was Henderson a winger?

Secondly to say Moses is a better technical player is slightly confusing. Henderson has been spraying Gerrard-esque passes all over the pitch, and consistently accurate this season. Moses played brilliantly today, but that's his first good game really for Liverpool.

Thirdly, to say Henderson brings nothing to the team is harsh. His passing and runs in behind the defence to drag a defender away are improving every week, and his athleticism can be matched by very few in the Premier League.

Finally, to say you'd rather Allen is an odd one. Don't get me wrong, I see the improvement and technical ability of Allen, but he tends to fade as the game wears on. Henderson's athleticism and passing is what stretches defences and causes problems late on. I would like to think the two can play together, but if I had to choose one I'd choose Henderson, but that's just my preference because he's my type of player.

Like I said, my opinion, but I have to disagree with you, because I think Henderson has been our best player this season behind Suarez.
Cheers,

Henderson has improved greatly but his goal effort today confirms that he needs to stay behind and work on his finishing

25 Jan 2014 13:42:00
Any chance of Pastore, Pjanic, Draxler or Koke? I'd live to sign Pastore, I think he would settle in to the premier league well. I know Draxler is optimistic, but all them players are good technicians and we need a player like that now.
Cheers

What do u think?

Can you send me some of what Wez B has been smoking please!
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

25 Jan 2014 13:14:40
Nice to see Moses do something. He has ability, and in a world cup year he should really give his all

Moses will defo not be taking us to the promised land.

I agree he does have ability, just needs to build on it. He needs to give it easy sometimes too.

He was one of the better players today imo.
Some of the guys out there never got out of first gear.
Well done to the lad. let's hope he can kick on from here and get himself a bit of confidence.
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

25 Jan 2014 13:13:09
Well done moses may this kick on your career congratulations lads

25 Jan 2014 12:49:26
Nice to see Ibe on the bench today hopefully we get to see him and a little more of Alberto in the 2nd half. Very strong lineup which shows we are taking the cup seriously.

25 Jan 2014 12:39:41
Strong line up today.
Also Kelly starts, let's hope it's the start of many this season.

25 Jan 2014 11:40:56
A simple question Edwards one that has had me pondering for a long time- who are u? Are u my father?
Shabba!

25 Jan 2014 12:35:42
surprised alberto and aspas haven't started. he must be very unsure of the pair of them, especially to play moses before them

Oh come on I know Moses is no prize but he is light years ahead of them.

25 Jan 2014 12:32:03
If we miss out on CL next year & Suarez decides to leave could fans realistically be disappointed with him? Citeh, Arsenal & CFC realistically look like finishing in the top 3. Mata will have the same effect on the Mancs (Rooney/RVP/Januzaj/Wellbeck) as Ozil has had on Arsenal, really. Spurs have been a different team under TS & Adebeyor has been in fine form. Our attack is just as good as any other team in the league but Sturridge is injury prone. Many fans on here are not even keen enough to see what Lucas actually does for this team but he is our best player in terms of what he does. So many calls to see one of our most valuable players on the bench by people who claim to know football. They say we need somebody scoring goals from the midfield even though he anchors one of the most prolific attacks in the league. Do people realize how much money would command for Lucas when we realize what he does. He is injury prone as well. Its not doom & gloom its just having a realistic look at things. At least we've got Ibe let's see what he can do. I believe he would be perfect for the left wing. The thing about being talented is that u don't give damn about following the script. Bernard Hopkins is 49 but still a world champion b/c he could give a rat's @$$ about what the script says. Ali wasnt expected to beat Liston or Foreman but KO'd both beasts of men. Send Ibe out to war as a fearless young warrior with the words, "Bring us Joy, boy. Bring us Joy"!

25 Jan 2014 12:29:24
Was really hoping to see Alberto get a start I've seen Nottin of this lad ed01 wats the story on this does Rodgers not rate him as he did when signing him I thought this would be a perfect oppertunity to see him play (what's your view on Alberto too)! Hopefully a good game and a win!
YNWA

{Ed001's Note - apparently he just doesn't think he is ready yet. I would have liked to see him prove himself today too.}

25 Jan 2014 12:25:08
Just my own opinion I would love to see Alonso come back to us only even for a little while. Also what off field problems has Yann M'vila had, I don't know? Thanks every1 take it easy ;-) nice 1!

25 Jan 2014 11:50:47
I like Rodgers but what is the point of built aspas and albertonif they can't get a game in the cup against Bournemouth with our current injury list. I know we need depth but if he doesn't trust them or want them to play in these games then are they purely for emergencies when we have everyone injured?
If that is the case we should just use our great youth like ibe. Sama, rossiter etc

25 Jan 2014 11:35:45
Ibrahim Afellay is back from injury and been told by Barca to try to find another club before the transfer window closes.
We have been linked with him many times so could now be the perfect time to bid on him? Or would he be another white elephant spending to much time in the treatment room?
Any thought?
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.

No, too injury prone and not worth the risk.

25 Jan 2014 11:28:13
i think all fans have a the right to say what they want here. isn't that the whole point of this site. I don't get the trolls remark. fans are just annoyed because they want the club to do well and when basic things do not seem to be happening. its even more frustrating

all the fans want to see is getting players in the areas needed. i'm sure no fans here expect every player to be 30 mill.but when the club. of this size can't get players in the positions DESPERATELY needed, and to give the team a boost to gain that champions league place.then fans will be angry so just let them voice their opinion here.

i can't understand myself what they do in nov and dec leading up to janaury. surely they wait till its the 1st and then try to get the players they want. but I guess lfc have a policy where they tell a club . hey we value him at 7mill. when they club clearly state he's 9. then this is why Liverpool do no purchase prime targets and will regret that come may.

Trolls remark is aimed at the no marks who come on here every transfer window slating the owners and club they support instead of reading why a player may choose another club or why the club don't bid a certain value.
For example Salah stated wanted to join 3 teams we weren't one of them, so when he went to Chelsea how did we miss out?
From what one of the eds has said we as a club have a problem with our transfers due to past purchases.
If this isn't sorted out and we really do miss out on players at the right price down to this I'm sure FSG will act and get it sorted.
I'm not stupid I know the team needs improvement and players to come in, but I'm not going to start throwing my rattle out of the pram like half the people on here are.

Red Lobster by that logic people also have the right to disagree with those opinions and, where they view appropriate slate those opinions. I view it appropriate where the status isn't based on any significant evidence. For example United signing Mata isn't a good excuse to slate the owners. Losing out to Chelsea isn't a good excuse to slate our transfer policy. It's fairly evident that scouts are working nearly all year around to identify players and perhaps behind the scenes trying to broker deals.

25 Jan 2014 10:50:41
I guess it says something about our transfer approach compared with Chelsea's: BR says we were watching Salah for months, yet couldn't even make a bid, and Mourinho says they don't even know who his agent is and yet they sign him on first enquiry. Very frustrating, and moreso when the signing fee is within our reach. Reminds me of Erikssen. I think he went to spurs for 11 mill or close to that. We paid 16 for Allen so clearly this was possible.

Oh well. At this point I eould be happy with securing Will Hughes for the summmer.

Coop

25 Jan 2014 10:15:32
Eds do you know if we will have a few players back for Tuesday night? Sakho, Enrique, Allen?

{Ed002's Note - Look at the answer I gave you yesterday and figure it out.}

Ed 002 I know that you must get completely fed up answering the same questions, and also take a lot of undeserved abuse, but do you really have to be so abrupt, it does nothing to enable the reputation of the page and can also hep to alienate certain contributors, if I had spoken to someone like that, my Nan would have tore me a new on, why go out of your way to add sarcasm when a simple yes or no would suffice, love your work by the way!. p.s maybe you really do not realise your doing it, I've served with a few guy's and gals like that, not to stereotype anyone, but they were usually from down south, keep up the good work!

{Ed002's Note - I'll give Dezmondo a short-term ban and perhaps he can think about the sense of asking the same question everyday. Then at least you will be happy that I won't be so abrupt.}

Ed, there's know need to ban me please, apologise for asking same question twice. There are other posters who are trashing the club and players that deserve banning first surely.

{Ed002's Note - Don't worry Dezmondo I was only teasing.}

25 Jan 2014 09:37:34
Transfer window really brings the trolls out doesn't it?
Slating every one at the club you support from the owners down to any one else u can think of.
Missing out on this player or that player.
Naming any player you can think of saying why aren't we signing them?
Every one will leave us if we don't get champions league football.
So called fans saying now we've missed out on the " Egyptian messi " we will suddenly drop like stones in the table.

Don't get me wrong i'd love some new talent to help push us on and challenge,
But if we don't we dont, I'd rather get no one than have a player openly admit they want champions league football now ie Salah, but settle for us as no one else comes in for them. Salah stated he wants champions league now, even if we matched Chelsea bid we wouldn't get him, so how did we miss out.
FSG have shown they will change things to rectify mistakes, so hopefully the transfer policy will be sorted for the summer.
In the mean time the squad we have has got us within touching distance of the title let alone 4th, who expected us to be there at this time of the season? I know I didn't.
If we drop we drop, get used to it, it's been happening for twenty plus years, the problems caused by previous owners managers and boards have destroyed our club, finally we have owners who have been paying off debts and over payments out of their own pockets, they want balanced books to move on and are careful with player prices after previous purchases, we can all name the wares money over the years.
If players leave due to missing out then good riddance perhaps they should look at their performances in games such as the loss to hull, but I'm sure the money bought in by their sale will bolster the team once again, and for those saying without Suarez we would be no where, I'm pretty sure he missed the start of the season and I'm even more sure we made a good start and if you take a key player out of all teams they would be worse off.

Sorry rant over but if your going to support the team support the team, we all have our opinions but if they involve blaming certain people for things back up your facts, we ain't the ones paying for players, their wages or all the other expenses. And have you not thought the new contract given to Suarez just may have taken a hefty chunk from the budget.
We are not making profit we don't even adhere to the ffp ruling one of only a few clubs that don't, so before you start going on about not paying the money for players work out where it's coming from.

Rant over sorry
Show some support

You don't get it. Chelsea secured his services in 24 hours. We had been chasing him for weeks, Chelsea have only bought him as a replacement for Mata. Now if we had moved quick like Chelsea weeks ago before the Mancs had bid for Mata they would have looked for an alternative. As I keep saying we as a club expect other clubs to take lower fees for their best players, we would take lower fees for Luis, Sturridge etc? No. Yeah Salah does want champs league football, who doesn't? I still think he was keen. No stop with the do gooder attitude, we fans who are critical care ad well. I just am not blind when coming to obvious decisions at the club.

All I can say is that every year we aren't in the Champions League we move further away from actually getting there and the teams that are there will continue to exponentially pull away from us in terms of the finances and quality of players available.

If you are happy to see us settle for mid table obscurity and fight for the domestic trophy scraps like the league and FA cup, then I'm happy for you.

Personally I find it an unpalatable position.

Chelsea got their man in 24 hours due to being one of the three teams Salah said he wanted to join, we weren't one of them.
If you class fourth as mid table then yeah I'd settle for that, I didn't expect us to be fourth this season, not about being happy with it it's about being realistic we aren't the club we used to be yet getting there yes not yet but nearly.
If
You think Chelsea buying another winger over a striker which is what they need as a good buy then great,
Salah was never a priority in my opinion, I'd be more disappointed on not getting some bite in our midfield over missing out on Salah.
I'm pretty sure the midfield player Chelsea just bought matri they sold for a few million and just paid in excess of 22 million, all clubs make mistakes in the transfer market.
You ever thought that the value wasn't met due to
1 the player said he wanted to join other teams
2 a winger may not be our top priority
3 The sale value doesn't include fees so 11 million becomes god knows what

If FSG have no ambition why would they authorise a new contract for Suarez worth 200000 a week plus?

I want what all fans want us to be successful again, if rather do it by building on what we have using our youth rather than rush into buying a Ayer that not many people on here new of and if he didn't perform would soon jump on his back any way. One player doesn't make us a team.

25 Jan 2014 10:46:10
Pity we are not in the Champions league spots now Mark E!
Oh wait?
Despite your post, we are closer than we've been to 4th since dropping out of the competition in 2009. How does that make sense?

Hi carlitoc.
Have to say I don't agree with you on this. I am happy to see us stick with how much we value a player rather than just pay whatever the other club wants. Have you already forgot how we end up with paying 35m for Andy Carroll and 20m for Downing?

I can't see this Salah guy can walk into our starting eleven anyway. Is he better than in form coutinho/stirling? I doubt it.

Kiwi how can you compare 10m£ for salah and 35£ for carroll. Its not to over pay when you get a quality player for 10-11m £. Allen for 16 now that's overpaying

Problem is we have mounting injury problems and the club is doing nothing while our competitors are strengthening.

If you could see nothing wrong with that first half performance against villa, then I pity you, because that will be the pattern for virtually every other game without Lucas anchoring the midfield, Gerrard isn't intelligent enough to play that role, he is better further forward, always has been.

Unfortunately the season is only half way through and we will fall away badly because of the shortcomings in the team, if you can't see that we don't have the quality to sustain the position then you are blind to the reality.

Blind faith gets you nowhere.

Seriously can't see how we will finish in the top four with such a weak midfield and inability to defend.

The whole Salah thing is a moot point.

We do however need more quality at fullback and centre midfield as we are very lightweight in those positions.

I agree completely we need cover for midfield and defensive positions, if we don't get any one we have some very good players in the youth team to give a run out.
Don't see the point of over paying though

25 Jan 2014 11:38:59
Yeah I remember it, but I can see past it. It was 45 poor minutes of football. If you can't see past the first half against villa, then it's me who pities you.
If you choose to ignore all the great games we have played this season, and totally fixate on 1 half when BR got his tactics wrong, then it's me who calls you blind.

The youth team players for centre midfield aren't good enough to play against the top sides, I think we delude ourselves sometimes with how we rate them, I remember how there were people on here who thought Spearing was the next big thing, even though it was patently obvious that he was nowhere near the quality needed to succeed.

Ultimately we are short of quality and we are being found out, that is a fact.

25 Jan 2014 11:42:17
carlitoc, I get most of it! We went in for Salah early and showed interest in signing him, maybe even according to Macca, agreed personal terms, but him and or his agent decided to hedge their bets in a CL EPL side coming in for him later on in the window. This sadly is what happened and maybe in future, we should think, this is what we are prepared to offer and it's on the table for a week, take it or leave it. If no transfer comes off in that week, go onto the next target (if there was one) as obviously the player didn't want to play for us or the club weren't prepared to drop that low in transfer fee! Basically we shot ourselves in the foot, AGAIN and this policy needs to change! This is only my opinion, so might be far from the truth, although am I half right Eds?
Might be an idea to get Mike Brewer in to do deals, he has no problem selling and buying cars!

Mark I don't see how Salah will help with our defensive problems. I don't see how having injury problems is a reason to slag the club and I don't see how losing out to Chelsea is such a huge deal. Your complaint is similar to a Southampton fan crying about losing out to us for Coutinho. I'm not comparing us to Southampton but in reality Chelsea has a far bigger pull than we do at the minute and if they want to sign up teen players than so be it.

25 Jan 2014 08:59:40
Good morning Eds

The weekend is here at last, you got much planned?

Do you see Shaqiri being a possibility for January or not?

Would you say clubs still have time to get deals done in the days that are left?

{Ed002's Note - I have to work all weekend and rejig my travel for next week due to a French Air Traffic Controllers strike. Shaqiri will likely be allowed to leave in the summer. I am not aware that Liverpool has spoken with either his agent or his club about moving now. You don't seriously expect me to answer the last question.}

Know to be fair daft question, of course there is time there is 7 days. Suppose was thinking of our usual prolonged approach that's all.

Liverpool signed Andy Carroll with about an hour left in the window, of course there is time.

25 Jan 2014 08:19:46
Morning Ed's and Reds.
What's all the moaning about missing out on transfers?
I could understand if we were in United's position we would be looking at desperation/panic buys but we are actually sitting in 4th place as I type.
We already have players sitting on our bench who have either been poor during the 1st half of the season or have been injured. Alberto, Aspas, Moses and Ibe are four attacking players who have hardly been used whilst we already have 4 in Suarez, Sturridge, Couthinho and Sterling.
Are our fans actually writing Aspas, Alberto and even Moses because they have been poor for half a season? really?
We have some players coming back to strengthen our back four which is very timely considering the spate of injuries we are getting and for me the only position which I would like to see a signing is defensive midfield to take the pressure off Lucas. That is the only player I want.
I keep repeating this but the only target I have set the team this year is to compete with the top sides. We are 4th, we have 3 great sides in front of us and 3 great sides below us. That must mean we are a great side too?
Back to the Salah transfer. I want players who want to play for the shirt first and then the pay cheque. All I have been hearing is that the lad wants to come to Liverpool and then when another side comes in for him he wants to go there. If he goes to Chelsea then good luck to him but I would be happy knowing that he is another player who is more interested in how much rather than "who" he is playing for. Having said that I love Mourinho at the minute. Pissing everyone off. The premiership has missed him.

{Ed002's Note - The player said Real Madrid, Manchester United and Chelsea are the three clubs he would consider.}

Might have escaped your notice but the mancs aren't that far behind us and have done and are doing things about there situation.

If you think all is rosy in the garden, I assume that you didn't see the first half against Villa? Or the game against Hull? Or even City or the Chavs.

Although I give Aspas and Alberto the benefit of the doubt because they have to adapt to a different culture and playing style, that same generosity cannot and should not be afforded to Moses who has looked disinterested and insipid at best.

There is a reason that he was on the sidelines at Chelsea and they couldn't wait to fire him out quickly enough.

He's awful, it's like seeing Stewart Downing in disguise, one paced, can't beat his man, can't cross, can't pass, can't shoot, I swear that goal against Swansea was a miss hit, there's no way he meant that.

From the Chavs point of view he's no longer a burden for the season, he's an expensive passenger to a rival and we are lumbered with him.

Honestly can't wait to see the back of him, waste of a loan and waste of valuable resources.

If anyone can honestly tell me what he brings to the team feel free to put me right, but there isn't any empirical evidence to the contrary.

The laughable thing was that story in the papers that the chavs were upset that we weren't playing him, do they really expect us to play someone so patently awful?

All I can say is, we are at a stage where we have the opportunity to get in reinforcements to consolidate our position or stand still and watch everyone pass us by. I think I know which option the club have settled for.

Utd are six points behind, not 60. We are having our beat season in yonks, them their worst. What does that say. Too early to write them off.

25 Jan 2014 10:52:09
You make it sound so simple Mark. But what's wrong with just listening to the Eds when they say stuff like
'January is tough at the best of times'
'World cup year'
'Salah made it clear he wanted to join Chelsea'

I wanted to sign someone too but I think your wayyy over simplifying matters to give your point more validity.

I'm not fussed about Salah.

He's joined the chavs and that's that, he can enjoy his place on their bench.

It's largely questionable as to whether we needed him bearing in mind Sterlings form.

What I am bothered about is that we have a very weak centre midfield and no full backs of any quality and our injury list is mounting and we are doing nothing about that.

That's not even mentioning our inability to defend.

I and any other supporter, have the right to feel concerned that we are standing still while others are making moves to ensure they qualify for the champions league.

25 Jan 2014 11:29:39
Mark you keep on referring to the first half against villa as your whole argument for us not being good enough finish fourth. Yeah we were awful but the fact that its so rare these days made that first half performance seem a lot worse in my opinion. It's not as doom and gloom as people are making out. I find it reassuring that we get players watched for months at a time, get them scouted properly, find out their attitude on and off the pitch. Not blowing money on players just for the sake of it is how to run a business properly. I'm certainly no expert on this but I think Liverpool have always over spent and unfortunately you can't just click your fingers and balance the books. Without champions league we need to sort ourselves out financially and think outside the box when it comes to transfers

25 Jan 2014 11:46:43
Just because United and Chelsea have signed players.that doesn't effect upon out financial situation does it?
It's not an inability to move forward, because unless you started supporting Liverpool this year, it's clear we have improved for the first real time since Rafa.
It's slow improvement. Yes, we would all love to have oil money, but just because two of the richest clubs are buying players doesn't mean we have to.
You said it yourself with Salah, and personally I'm not sure either that we really needed him.
I'm glad we are refusing to go over our valuation, it shows me that the board didn't think our season is over if he doesn't join.
The absolute truth is, we may not sign a midfielder because there might simply n

Every year that we fail to get into the champions league, it gets harder to get back in, because the clubs who qualify get more money to spend on better players and are able to pull away financially and in terms of quality, you are aware of the kind of money it brings?

We are on the cusp of being able to get back in and by failing to take action to put right what is wrong we will fall short again.

The upshot of failing to qualify is that we probably will lose Suarez and not be able to fully replace what he brings.

Yes we could get £70m+ but what's the point if we end up with a team of Victor Moses and Joe Allen's?!

We also have a player in Gerrard who is at the end of his career and that is patently obvious and we won't be able to fill that hole in the squad on the cheap and without the kind of funds that you get from CL then you may as well accept that all we will end up with is mediocrity.

25 Jan 2014 12:34:06
By your logic we should be miles behind 4th.
We've been out for 4 years, have a squad of 'Allens and Moses' and don't have massive bucks to throw around.
On top of all that, we had an appalling first half against Villa.

How exactly is it we are 4th then? As it stands now and over the last 12 months?
And who is it exactly who's finding us out? Who's found what out?
I don't get it, my brain hurts trying to follow your logic man.

We are 4th because we deserve to be there.
Our current establishment deserves credit for getting a level of consistency back to our game, a consistency we've missed for 4-5 years.


Those my friend, are facts. Backed up by figures.

Liverpool are playing better, scoring more goals and picking up a higher ppg (points per game) than in any of the last 4 years.

I know stats can paint any picture you want. But these can't.
These are as black and white as they come.

25 Jan 2014 05:28:18
Last week for transfers is left.

i feel if there is really a player which will help us be in top 4 then we should be prepared to pay extra.

This season is the best chance we have had to reach champions league, and if we don't, then will definitely end up losing Suarez, who is by far the only world class player we have. Then we will be searching for a new striker, and other clubs may ask us heavy transfer fees knowing that we are desperate.

We all know the positions that we need to sign new players & if we are able to fill even one of those with a really good player, it will be a good transfer window for us.

The team needs a little push, and FSG have to help!

25 Jan 2014 02:55:19
hopefully everyone stays behind the club no matter what happens. we have played with everything to get where we are. it might be hard to hold onto 4th and a champions league spot is seeming less and less likely. I don't say this because of lack of transfers in the window. but because our injury list is piling up fast. according to physioroom we are at the top of the list as the club with the most number of injuries at the moment. we have 8 out injured including flanno, enrique, sakho, leiva, agger, allen, johnson and coates. so if we don't finish in the top 4, its because we have had the unfortunate luck of having so many injuries this season. obviously the club can't go out and buy new players due to this because eventually these players will return from injury. maybe we might get 1 or 2 players in the window but we'll have to wait for our injured to return and let's hope it won't be a long time from now. YNWA

25 Jan 2014 02:19:07
Sunderland have approached Valencia about Banega, why don't we go for him. He had run Valencia for years, accomplished and classy. Perfect cover for Lucas!

25 Jan 2014 01:53:15
The prize that Liverpool will pay for not finishing in Top 4 this season is much more than the Bids for January targets.

The very first thing Liverpool will loose
Luis Suarez

Secondly even
Philipe Cutinho

Worst case even
Mohamed Sakho

All to a Champions League playing club.

FSG and Ian Ayre should understand the need and buy Players asap and show that they mean Business.
To me it looks History is repeating itself "Hicks and Gillette not giving funds to Rafa and so is FSG"

Even Allen is injured for God's sake.
Really hope deals for either of these get tied down soon -

Rondon/ Nigel De Jong
Georginio Winjnaldum
Tom Ince
Yann M'vila

Hope we don't get knockout from FA Cup.

What you're saying makes little sense. We may lose Suarez, but coutinho on current form really isn't too appealing to champions league teams.

Sakho left champions league for us.

Ince is what we need to win? You just want money spent for the sake of spending.

The team did fine with the squad we have, and will continue to do fine.

Tom Ince can get in the current team before Aspas, Alberto, Moses and will give competition to Sterling.

Cutinho is Talent and every other teams knows it, don't be surprised if Arsenal, Athletico come calling from him.

If we had spend millions on flops then why not spend on few who could be be a good cover.

May I remind you that our current squad has done rather well up until this point and coped with big injuries. If we are to sign players for the big push they would clearly need to be of the calibre who start week in week out and actually make a difference. Unfortunately they are incredibly overpriced on January. Have faith people

25 Jan 2014 10:08:32
' If we had spend millions on flops then why not spend on few who could be be a good cover '.
Lolololol

B.R : Hiya Ian, how's the transfer budget looking?
I.A: good mate, anybody good in mind?
B.R : Nah, just some flops.

Also, Alberto, Aspas and Moses don't get into the team ahead of Sturridge, Suarez, Sterling and Coutinho, so your argument that Ince is better than them is moot. He won't improve the starting 11.

This post is a prime example of random names/spending for the sake of spending!

25 Jan 2014 00:36:00
Think like FSG! If you buy a club saying. competitive in transfer market. Yeah they've spent money but so have others! Clubs money too! FSG improved the club. yes. Now when push comes to shove. your club is in the mix. team in dire need of LM, LB + DCM. So given all the above. Logic would say let's spend or else maybe no CL. and Suarez might go right?
Unless you've realized you can't really compete with city, Chelsea ECT. So now Liverpool are worth more, healthy books, relatively debt free. New PL & CL deals. you did get the club cheap in the first place. Nice profit! Ain't spending because they are thinking of selling. Finger in too many pies!

I find it amusing you used the word logic in this post. We should totally just place the club further in debt (likely already over what 100M, now?) on the chance that we might get CL. It's a brilliant strategy and surely worked before for others.

25 Jan 2014 00:28:14
Do you think well see Alberto, Rossiter, Smith or Lloyd jones get a chance tommorow?

I hope Rossiter can get a chance to show us what he can do

I hope Teixeira gets a run out & perhaps reward Peterson for his goal and assist against Arsenal U21: LW/RW.