Liverpool Banter Archive April 25 2013

 

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25 Apr 2013 23:37:24
Do b. dortmund have a committee who help buy and sell player like we have say? Just as they got used as a example for who where trying to emulate
Grate work guys


We aren't emulating anyone


I thought we were trying to emulate Swansea?


We kinda are with transfers pal why did Rogers say we were then?


Dortmund do not play tika taka nor to bayern but a more direct and stronger game I am glad barca are likely to get beat as their type of game bores me.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 23:27:22
Hey Ed, just a quick question, with Suarez getting a 10 match ban and showing his bad side again, do you think his price tag will go down? I read somewhere a few weeks ago that he is valued at £50 million but do you think it will be reduced because of this? thanks.
Kopman. {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}


I doubt his valuation would go down too much but there will surely be a whole bunch of clubs dropping interest in him unless they can take advantage of his poor reputation and get him at a lower price. If Liverpool stick to a high valuation, why would any clubs bother?
I can see him leaving for a lot less than we fans hope for - maybe 25m - if he goes. Hopefully, he won't try and force a transfer through himself (or maybe he already has)?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 23:04:45
News headline on tv sports.



Liverpool will let player decide whether to challenge ban.



Seriously, are the tv just taking the mick with this headline or is this information actually coming from the club. "The Player will decide" They the leadership of the club started off so well after the incident doing everything in a very professional manor. Now today we have had Rogers and Reina spouting off. The leadership now appears to have totally collapsed and Luis Suarez will now decide for himself. I find it incredible if that headline is true.

PJ


That does indeed appear to be the headline in a number of places.

I used to think those that thought Suarez was somehow 'better' or 'bigger' than the club were just plain wrong, but now it appears they were correct all along. Apparently Suarez is in fact bigger than the club and can do whatever the FSG he wants?


26 Apr 2013 00:30:52
Mate Suarez is not just a player to FSG he is an investment to them, like every bussiness man will protect his investment, they are doing the same.

In this situation 2 things are very important to owners:-

1) Protect the brand

2) Protect the player as much as you can at the end he is just an investment to them, and every bussiness man will protect his investment.


I think Brand Suarez is beyond protection


Suarez to John Henry and Co. must be like :-

#1 Protect LFC from recurring scandal.

#2 Protect the rest of the squad from recurring scandal.

Be honest OP, LS is detrimental not enhancing to FSG.


Blue247


26 Apr 2013 09:58:11
Blue247 you need to see the club statement, they have made it clear that they are not happy with FA verdict, Manager, players and Ian ayre have totaly come out lately and Lambasted the FA, and prime minister to interfere in a matter which doesn't concern him at all, so I don't understand what you want more!


I think that the player is allowed to challenge the ban if he thinks it is unfair regardless what the club decide to do. I would hope that the player and club reach a joint decision but if not the player may still challenge. unless football works differently I hope he decides to accept the punishment and move on.


I think it would be naive of any one to think FSG would behind the scenes approve of suarez, business or no business he has cooked his goose with them what ever they say in public.
if he's an embarrassment to us fans then he is to FSG also, to think otherwise is cringeworthy!

UpperParlyCarly


 

 

25 Apr 2013 22:42:41
ED002, I have looked around but can't find what you said regarding BR and who LFC could look into as a possible replacement for Suarez. Can you please tell us again. Sorry for asking again.

The real AG {Ed002's Note - I didn't - I said it was too early.}


Oh OK. I must have miss-read one of your replies. Thanks for the answer anyway.

The real AG


 

 

25 Apr 2013 22:36:53
Rodgers statement after the event:

"Having reviewed the video footage and spoken to Luis, his behaviour is unacceptable and I have made him aware of this"

Suarez's statement after the event:

"I apologise to my manager and everyone at Liverpool for letting them down. "

Ian Ayre's statement:


Suarez's behaviour did not "befit" that of a Liverpool player.
"Luis is aware that he has let himself and everyone associated with the club down, "

So how has Brendan come to this conclusion today?:

"He has not let me down one bit. "


If you smell him we don't to tell the world because we will only get a lower price plus he is quality we need him to keep growing as a team no matter the out come Liverpool must support him!!!


Suarez has let everybody down at our great club, bitting anybody is disgusting and can pass on infections not only to who was bitten but their family as well. Suarez should not be allowed to pass through our great clubs doors ever again and banned from football for life.


PR disaster if you ask me! BR I know the sun has come out recently but put your flip flops away :)


If you read it he's talking about commitment.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 22:36:42
Ed002,
Could you clear up a point of confusion - could the independent panel take into account the previous biting incident in Holland and the ban that was imposed by the Dutch FA?
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - No they can't. I have explained that in determining the punishment they can only take in to account the offence and the player's history since playing under the FA.}


He's going to appeal, you know that ed?
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - No, I didn't know.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 22:36:21
Right. So now were letting him make his own mind up about whether to appeal. Oh dear what has our great club come to?.
Also Rodgers states that he's not let him down and where he's from their always fighting for their lives.
Please someone with sense get rid of these clowns from our great club and let us start over properly.
Rodgers. learnt nothing from Kennys reign. Ayre. are Gonzo, Kermit and miss piggy his friends. you get the picture. and Suarez. sorry old boy but I can't stand anymore of this club getting battered on a regular basis.
Somebody who actually owns this club please speak up quick and help rectify all this nonsense before we become an even bigger laughing stock.
YNWA JFT96


25 Apr 2013 23:08:14
Mate the problem with Liverpool is we are not in a position to challange the FA neither want to accept the ban from inside, at the sametime want to make Suarez happy as we need him more then him, at the sametime Suarez agent and his leagal team must be putting some pressure on us or looking for options to overturn/reduce the ban.

Both Liverpool and Suarez Leagal team will be working very hard to look for options/opportunity to overturn/reduce the ban, they won't just accept and move on untill its impossible.


25 Apr 2013 23:31:07
Suarez can appeal himself without dragging our club if he wants, we just need to play safe infront of media, if Liverpool are not happy with the verdict, they can help him behind closed doors to fight FA without being directly involved, after all their is nothing against Liverpool, its between Suarez and FA! But Rodgers needs to be very careful, he just can't give those kind of statements in media, because Liverpool are not involved but that statemen can easily be used against Liverpool and he will regret it big time!


 

 

25 Apr 2013 22:03:09
I for one fully stand behind the manager and I believe the owners have been consulted and agreed with his stance. The owners would not want to make similar mistakes again. LFC have played their cards and shown their committment to keep Suarez as he is their best player and a key asset. I wish thd eds would stop blaming the players previous actions for bringing about Kenny's downfall (I still retain Suarez was innocent). Supporting our great club involves getting behind all the players and staff from top to bottom and putting personal differences aside. LFC now find themselves ostracized and clinging onto Suarez in the hope he won't leave thanks to the FA victimising Suarez and throwing the book at him, whilst other British players are treated differently. YNWA {Ed002's Note - So Suarez is the victim in all of this. Not the players he has abused, punched, bitten etc?}


25 Apr 2013 22:36:38
What a embarrassing post, Rodgers is, was out of his depth, a lot of fans want the season to be over as soon as possible, because the way has pan out and now coming out and blaming FA for Suarez behaviour oh dear, FA have made it Clear and given us details of the ban if the club and Rodgers are not satisfied then appeal it rather then acting like brat in media.


Apparently Rodgers learned little from Kenny's escapade last time. Bring out the T-shirts again it is. Agreed with Ed002, cringe-worthy is pretty apt.


Personally while I think Suarez is truly world class we should sell him. It is likely even if he appeals that he will get 10 game ban and that's a lot over a season. If we can pick up around £40 million then they should sell and while the eds and others (who know more than me) may suggest we would not get that amount I suspect we would as demand will be high from some big money teams. If we sell of course I would hope to hell it would be not to another english team!
I just think after ten game ban and the likelyhood of a red card or two over a season or another kick or stomp it just isn't worth it, no matter how good a player he is

Gareth


Now ed002 I respect your comments and you do a fantastic job I might not agree with everything you say but big deal, but u can't say Suarez is treated equally to English players ( in instances of bans etc) he should be punished be it 10- 20 games but the fa should be consistent. Terry got 4 games with evidence, Suarez got 8 no evidence, Defoe got a yellow card for biting, Suarez got 10 games. There should be fairer way and more consistent way of handing out bans and what not. {Ed002's Note - You really need to understand what was in the independent report regarding Terry and the statement that explicity explained the difference. Defoe was years ago, he should have been punished further.

I have explained that I saw the punishment of Suarez as harsh but you need to keep in mind the seriousness of the offence and that Suarez is a repeat offender. If this were Tevez, Hernandez or Ramires you would be demanding they be fired. I have no doubts if this were Poulsen or El Zhar when at Liverpool then you would want them out of the club. Like it or not, and taking nothing away from Suarez the footballer, he is a DF who has through his own actions brought all this trouble to himself, his family, the club, the management, the owners, the sponsers etc.. The Football Association did not summon dark forces to make him bite another player on Sunday. He did it of his own volition.

Like everything else, this matter needs to be assessed by its own merits in respect of the charge made. Suarez was not deemed guilty of teh charge because he is a Uruguayan. He was deemed guilty of the charge because he did indeed commit an act of violent conduct. Then we move to the punishment. It is a serious charge and that needs to be taken in to account. He has, since arriving in England, behaved pretty appallingly and that would no doubt be a matter considered as well.

This is not a witch hunt for Suarez but something he is entirely responsible for.}


I agree with what your saying, just that now if someone is stupid enough as Suarez to do something more or less the same, they should get roughly the same type of ban that's all I'm trying to say. It's just hard to feel a little hard done that's all. Thanks ed
Uruseb {Ed002's Note - Why not read the explanation about the matter.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 21:55:05
Just heard that Marco Rojas is on route to Germany with his father to sign for a german club.

Tilwud


Good. We can stop pretending he's Liverpool quality then


 

 

25 Apr 2013 21:53:33
everytime I see dragovic play he gets better and better, we need to beat arsenal to his signature he's big strong fast and confident on the ball.

REDAN


 

 

25 Apr 2013 21:23:03
I don't want RAFA back but it looks wrong seeing him at Chelsea like seeing your ex with another fella!


I never wanted him back he is terrible


 

 

25 Apr 2013 21:13:45
Hi there Edds and fellow reds!

I need some clarification. I've been in discussion with friends at work, they are chelsea, Manchester United and gooners. They were teasing that LFC will be europeless next season and I am gutted about that but then someone said our only hope of Europa next season is that spurs get forth, chelsea 5th but they have to win Europa league and then the Europa qualifications is handed to 6th place as swansea are in due to capital 1 cup victory. Is that true or are we definatley out for next year?

Cheers el Nino


To get Europa LFC has to finish 5th.

End of story


I'll get Steven Hawking in to work it out!

HB


Under the fair play rule e could have a chance

GAM'#


 

 

25 Apr 2013 20:52:43
What Liverpool need to do is get rid of Rodgers and get a manager who knows what he is doing. We are just treading water with him in charge. A yes man for the Americans.


Yes you are right!


Indeed I wish more people would realise this is the case.

Some players have underperformed under Rodgers.
One doesn't become a bad player overnight.

Rodgers would be a good manager in a different situation, but not Liverpool.

Liverpool need an older more experienced manager, but one with authority.

Yes men do not make winners.

Number Nine.


YES, I think you might be correct actually.

Brendan Rodgers


Bring back Kenny!

AJH


Spot on three years too early maybe we can offer him the pr job as he's great at talking had so many supporters levels brought down we weren't that bad now were worse when will everyone wake up


He is a yes man and that is shy FSG will keep him.

They will decide who come and goes as they did last summer.

They employed Comolli to buy the players (yet many fans blame KK, those who are not old enough to remember him)


Yes and bring us into administration that should be fun!
Kopman.


A lot of players have improved their performances under him though i. e. Henderson, Downing + a load of younger players have been given a chance to impress. I don't necessarily think its a managers job to make players play better - if you can't, as a player, motivate yourself to play for Liverpool then you have a serious problem, a manager can only instruct players - they have to carry out those instructions. Some players have underperformed - that is to their detriment, not the managers.

SMc


Yes mate, a manage who is constantly arguing with the owners, publicly fighting them and just letting one or two players play to their strength at the detriment to the rest of the squad! Great plan mate


 

 

25 Apr 2013 20:50:11
I wouldn't worry about Suarez going. For as long as I have been watching Liverpool we seem to sell our star strikers in their prime, then we either replace them for someone better or the team do better or try harder. What I'm trying to say is when one door closes, another opens.
This summer is probably the best time to sell Suarez, maximum profit after his best ever season. Just when all the big teams are about to proper splash the cash.
Plus I am pretty sure the club has been planning all year in case he leaves this summer anyway. He has flirted with the idea of going all year and last summer. The club will have prepared fully incase he leaves by scouting possible replacements and sounding out thier availability.
Will be sad to see him leave, he's been the most exciting player since Torres in his prime. But all good things must come to an end sometime.

Onto my next point. Our defence. Carra and probably skrtle will be leaving this summer. Kelly will no doubt be moved
into the middle. We will also look to bring in another centre defender. Would everybody be happy to see Kelly get the first team position with the new player being back up? Or would you bring in someone that would be a first teamer with Kelly as back up? Also do you bring in someone young and promising? Or someone who's about 29?
I would bring in an older head. I think we need experience their after carra goes. He would be a first teamer and Kelly third choice.
That way Kelly can get back to getting over his injurys and have a lot less pressure for a couple of years before replacing the new defender when he's ready.
I have full confidence in kellys abilitys just not his body in staying injury free. Wisdom and Kelly at central defence in the future is a real possibility. I hope so anyway.

MIKEY


You havn't been watching Liverpool long then have you because the only striker in his prime was Torres who has since shown none of the form he had with us.

McB


But all them times we were in better positions we have nothing to offer for once we just don't have that pull anymore without europe or great players to play alongside


Mickey is right an the first reply is typical of a fan under 25 yrs old.

Keegan and Toshack replaced by Kenny and Rush
Rush replaced by Fowler
Fowler replaced by Owen
Owen leaves, we win Champions League
Torres comes in
Torres replaced by Suarez

I'm sure it goes even further back with St John, Hunt etc


 

 

25 Apr 2013 20:47:06
Do you think that reina will still be leaving this summer and is mignolet number 1 to replace him if so


Hope not and really hope we sign cb/dm/winger/carroll back


Carroll back? Are you kidding?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 20:45:02
I might agree to some extent with what Reina, Carragher and Rodgers have said over the past few days relating to the Suarez incident but, to be honest, I wish the club would just keep its head down. These interviews keep feeding the frenzy that's been generated by Suarez - surely the best course of action, regardless of how fair or just you see the punishment, is to swallow our pride, accept the ban, appear contrite and sincere whenever asked any question and just let the incident lie. Keeping it in the spotlight and appearing to defend it is only making a bad situation worse.

SMc

p. s. I do agree that the FA are completely inconsistent and seem to relish stiffening the punishment where Liverpool are concerned however this sort of talk should be kept between fans having a debate in the pub, not propagated by club officials in press conferences or media interviews. I fail to see how this helps our cause in anyway. Was also baffled to hear Suarez saying, before the hearing, that he thinks he shouldn't be given a ban longer than 3 games - that hardly smacks of someone in throes of guilt over something they did wrong does it? Please Liverpool invest in some media training for Suarez - he is in dire need.


Well said - Suarez is sorry and remorseful according to BR and certain fans!

Then why did he:

1. do such a mad thing - totally unprovoked and having done it before and been punished for it - in the first place?
2. start feining injury when he saw trouble brewing?
3. then go on to smile/laugh towards Ivanovic?
4. came out saying he feels a 3 game ban would be enough and any more would be unfair?

The actions of a sorry and remorseful man?


Suarez is ruthless in his desire to win. Most of the time it contributes to top performances on the pitch, but sometimes it leads to the mess we have now. I genuinely think he is sorry, despite the hype of the media his "bite" was the boiling over of anger and frustration, not pre-meditated malice. His actions post-bite on the day are of little consequence, I expect the club to be managing him, and the situation with extreme caution. I expect them to advise and guide our players rather than allowing them to dig themselves, and the club, into a deeper hole.


In all honesty the club are handling this media storm in a profoundly stupid way. The first mistake was allowing Suarez to say to the independent panel that he shouldn't receive a punishment in excess of the standard 3 games. It's ridiculous and comes across as callous and extremely unremorseful, not the best public image to present.

The very first course of action after the incident should have been to issue the whole squad with strict instructions: give no television, radio, newspaper, social media, any interviews of any sort over the coming days and weeks relating to the Suarez incident. What happens? Carragher writes an article for a national newspaper and Reina gives an interview for Spanish Radio - this is obviously not going to help.

Rodgers should have been warned explicitly not to give any interview in the days after the initial incident which attempt to garner sympathy or paint the club as victimised. As a fan who believes we do get the short end of the stick I can see, from the perspective of the club, that it is for the best if we keep those sort of comments, regardless of how true they are, out of the media spotlight. It draws comparisons with Dalglish's ill-conceived actions when defending Suarez and, once more, makes the hole were digging for ourselves a little darker and a little deeper. So any guesses at what happens today? Rodgers gives an interview saying the ruling is prejudiced against Suarez. Mind numbing. Who is in charge of our media relations at Anfield? Who thought this was a good strategy to embark on? They need sacking because, once again, this is turning very messy, very quickly.

As a final aside it has emerged that we are going to let Suarez decide whether or not he wants to appeal the length of the ban. Why? Why are we letting him make that decision? What sort of message does that send out about the discipline and integrity of our club? Suarez is our employee - the only thing we should be doing is telling him to accept the ban so we can move on from this incident. Once again whoever is in charge of managing these types of situations is doing everything wrong. We've clearly, as a club, learnt no lessons from last time. No matter how wronged, how indignant we feel about the ban the way our club is dealing with the fallout is amateurish. We cannot win - no matter what we say or do the media, the pundits, rival fans, all of them are going to lambast us. Even if Suarez gets it reduced to 8 games we, as a club, come off looking bad - it serves no purpose and, as a bonus prize, Suarez could be given an extra 7 game ban on top of the 10! Is it really worth it?

I hope for the sake of the club that whoever is managing our media interests is either sacked or given a swift kick up the backside, it is getting more farcical and more damaging by the day and whoever is in charge is clearly failing in every single aspect of that position.

Please Liverpool get a grip.


SMc


His actions immediately after the bite are inconsequential. I don't expect somebody, after wronging somebody else, to feel instantly remorseful - remorse doesn't work like that. Saying he only deserves a 3 game ban a few days later comes across callous and unconcerned and is almost begging the independent panel to give him a stiffer punishment. It's ridiculous and all in all badly handled by the club.

SMc


SMc is spot on.

Unbelievable response by the club, given what happened last season.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 20:34:36
Hi eds, in your opinion what type of replacement do you think BR would want and who? Thanks lfc14 {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 20:23:02
Please people have a think about all this.
If Michael Carrick had bitten someone last weekend and the F. A looked at it through an independent panel then that panel would probably find that due to his past good record it was out of character therefore a 3-5 game band would be sufficient,
Just like if you went to court for a criminal offence they would look into previous good character.
Now Suarez whether you like it or not has committed previous offences, The F. A or more to the point their panel have obviously decided that he never learns his lesson so therefore have stepped up on what he previously received for the racism thing,
Now I class myself as an intelligent person, would this not just be a natural progression for someone who continually not only brings our club into disrepute but brings the whole of the English premier league into disrepute through his behaviour?
Rodgers and Ayre both need to keep their mouthes shut and see out the ban and if they decide to sell then get on with it,
I appreciate how much of an asset he's been in the games he's scored in this season but to have your best player unavailable for 16% of your games isn't acceptable especially considering the very large wages he'll be receiving throughout this period of inactivity.
This is a club that is losing its reputation built up over a large number of years very very quickly through mainly people not knowing when to say nothing at all and take a slap on the wrist, If our legend within the club Kenny Dalglish can be sacked due to a culmination of things including bad press for the club then nobody is safe,
We should be behind the club that we love NOT just anyone picking the side or playing in the shirt, we should be supporting what is right for the club first and foremost and if what is right is getting rid of a born troublemaker before we lose all the good we've taken over 50 years to accumulate then so be it.
YNWA JFT96


 

 

25 Apr 2013 20:10:09
We've been linked with so many players already, it's really intriguing to so see who we do sign come the summer. I honestly believe the club will sign a player or 2 that are being kept under the radar, that will pleasantly surprised the fans.


Yeah in a bad way maybe well get the welsh desaille


 

 

25 Apr 2013 20:08:36
Hi if Suarez were to leave in the summer in your opinion who would be the more likely to replace him surely Rodgers will have a plan lined up of suspects cheers richiered {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 20:00:07
hi eds Liverpool needs a great change. first get riide from mediocore british players like hendo, allen, downing, carrol. adam. I like borini because if he had time he can do for the club. but with the such british player we are always in 7th or 8th. the change could be
out: carroll (12 m)
reina (10m)
dowing (10m)
allen (8m)
hendo (8m)
coates (loan for a year)
skrtel (10m to russia)
agger (20m to barca)
suarez (35m)
wilson+spearing+pacheo (6m)
shelvey (6m to stoke)
total=115m
IN:toby alderwield=14m
hector moreno=12m
stefen van rijj =09m
momo diame =5m
manuel ittura =free
maxim gonalons =9m
lucas diagne =12m
luis muriel =14m
dimitri payet =14m
dudasuk (spelling)=12m
mignolet =09m
eriksen =15m+assadi
dos santos barca =10m
total=135m
the player I mention have great future and not currently want to join big club but if we offer the 90%sure want to join. just rebuilding team just spending 20 m. os it possible eds? {Ed002's Note - No.}


What planet do you live on, do you know how long it takes to transfer just one player???


25 Apr 2013 21:02:13
Well that would be a relegation battle, 13 players out for 13 foreigners with no experience and most of them i've neevr even heard of. Awful idea.


This is why I hate this site at times. What a stupid post. Is this for real?
With so called supporters like this person what chance do we have.
Dave


It amazes me how many people bring their xbox tactics to this site. Would probably easier for the original poster to just support another team.

McB


Why couldn't it work it obviously did in FIFA 2013 for him he won the Champions league with that team no doubt


Aside from anything else, I'm pretty sure this wouldn't hit the home grown quota


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:51:17
Hi edds hope all is well

Just wanted to say that in my opinion luis suarez cannot be replaced by any single player that would be available to us but just curious do any of you edds see any potential players out there that could have the same impact on the team that suarez had? I remember thinking the same about torres and now would pick suarez ahead of him any day of the week!

Thanks keep up the good work lads


Erricson if he would come but i very much doubt it


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:49:59
Luis is out, but thank God that Borini is back. I can see him banging in goals left, right and center.

Wait a second. how many league goals has he scored?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:26:58
Hi eds, do you think maybe Luis Suarez to Munich for around5-15 million plus Mario Gomez? Thanks LFC13 {Ed002's Note - I have no idea, sorry.}


He wouldn't come stop dreaming benteke aubyamang bony are a small chance but even then we would have to pay stupid money


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:38:34
Suarez will stay, he will come back an even better player. We just need to add some more quality around him. I belive next season will be a much more productive and enjoyable season.


Hope your right and rodgers has woke up after watching bayern barca someone stated after it how barca realise they need to add steele around there flair and are working on it now for the summer


So Barca had one poor match where the pitch was boggy, their star player was half fit and their only fit central defender was in terrible form (as he has been for some time), and suddenly they are changing their entire approach?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:29:41
The sooner this season is over the better. It's been such a frustrating season riddled with inconsistency. we all know we need to add some real quality in the summer, but will quality players want to join a club that will most probably have no involvment whatsoever in any European football at all. secondly have we got the money to pay for these quality players. I really fear that if we get our signings wrong in the summer, it will have a long lasting damaging effect on our great club.


Without doubt and the manager needs to wake up


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:17:18
Wouldn't mind if we brokered a deal for Suarez to get away with a couple of Bayern or Madrid players and cash. Although obviously not the absurd Benzemas and Robbens being mentioned but we could still get a good deal out of it? Perhaps Jerome Boateng or Varane. But still that would not replace the creativity and goals of Suarez, if he leaves we would need two or three players to replace him. A creative cam and a proven 20 goals a season goal scorer. What I don't understand is, if we keep Suarez why won't LFC invest 40 million on a goal scorer and a cam with Suarez still being there surely the money would be repaid with Champions League football? Any thoughts Eds? {Ed002's Note - If Bayern do decide to make an offer it will be cash. Real Madrid has shown no interest.}


He will go to bayern for a fee in the region of 45-60m


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:16:19
Suarez isn't fit to wear the shirt enough said we can replace out top players just like arsenal and just like have done in the past torres fowler owen alonso to name a few.

What we need to do is to look at replacements but I think sturridge will such a great buy and with borini we shouldn't be worried

Ive finally hopped on the Rodgers wagon thanks for the memories rafa In Rodgers We Trust


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:11:23
Time to calm down with the Suarez affair I think. He made a mistake, and he has been punished. Now let's concentrate on the football.

From now to the start of next season it is pretty much a long pre-season for Rodgers and Liverpool. We have nothing to play for so Rodgers will be able to experiment with the team and analyse which positions need strengthening in the summer.

Obviously we will miss Suarez in the team especially at the beginning of next season, but i'm sure Sturridge will cope just fine and show just how good he is.

That is what strength in depth is about. If Suarez was injured we would be in the same situation squad wise.

What's done is done and you just have to move on.

Red Lee


Could I also ask why everyone is looking for a scapegoat for everything that has happened these past few years?

All I keep reading is how such and such is at fault for this, that and the other. Rodgers, Dalglish, Ayre, FSG, Comolli, Suarez etc.

No matter how much you blame someone for what has happened in the past, it will not change anything now.

Red Lee


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:06:15
Eds a quick question regarding Rodgers and previous circumstances prior to his appointment. When kenny got sacked, many were saying it was because of the whole Suarez affair and how he handled it. Rodgers has now come out and been very blunt with reporters in saying what he thinks. One website are even saying that Rodgers has called the FA prejudice. Now given how quickly Kenny riled the owners when defending Suarez, do you think Rodgers may be treading on thin ice regarding this? I'd be really disappointed if the owners were to side against the manager again.

{Ed002's Note - Statements such as that made by Rodgers will do more harm than good given that Suarez has repeatedly offended and is clearly the one to blame for the whole affair. Much of it was cringe-worthy and embarrassing. I suspect the club's first priority will be to resolve what happens to the player.}


I thought BR conducted himself quite well to be honest. Not so sure on the comments made about the independant panel but all in all I thought he did ok bringing up some valid points. {Ed002's Note - Cringe-worthy and embarrassing.}


Must disagree with you Ed thought Rodgers handled it quite well.


Couldn't disagree more ed. {Ed002's Note - You have forgotten who was at fault then? No doubt Rodgers will be regretting what he said.}


I have to agree with the editor, banter aside what the hell was BR doing? Cringe-worthy is a word/s I have used often to describe BR, but his latest interview really takes the biscuit. David Brent is a very fitting description.

Does the man even know that it wasn't the FA that come up with the ten game ban while he's blaming them. He hasn't done Liverpool any favours with this latest interview. He is going down the same route as Kenny.

Disney!


He failed to make the main talking point the fact that Suarez has done bad and that something needs to be done about that. Instead he tried to turn it on the FA, which will do the club no favours, whilst seeming to brush off the fact that his player had committed a bad offence, again.

Moyes condemned Fellaini over his actions earlier this season but LFC's managers seem hell bent on backing Suarez at all costs, perhaps because they fear losing him so much.

It's funny that BR brought up a number of other offences and the respective bans issued but forgot to mention the previous Suarez biting incident or any of his previous misdemeanours in England. He also seemed to completely miss the point that the independant panel were taking into account his previous incidents in this country in arriving at a length of ban.

He either doesn't understand (which I doubt) or is trying to deflect attention and muddy the waters. He should be coming out with a clear message that the player did wrong and the club/player are accepting the punishment. This is far from what he did.


Sidney what makes you think we want to listen to the tripe that you spout on a daily basis? Do one mate! You think you some kind of know it all, I tell you one thing at least br isn't the bully that old purple nose is, also funny that gill is now workin for the fa isn't it? Pro united regime if you ask me! And ed, I dnt usually disagree with you, you know what your talkin about, but there was nothing wrong with what rodgers said in his interview, they did punish the man and not the incident! I rememer fellaini headbutting and punshing ryan shawcross and robert huth stamping on suarez chest at anfield but nothing done about it! They are out to get him and of that there is no doubt! Rodgers just has the balls to say it. It wasnt cringeworthy and embarrasing, shooting people with air rifles is cringeworthy and embarrassing!

Ian the red {Ed002's Note - The punishment once the case was proven was for the biting offence and it took account of his past record since arriving in England - which is appalling as you know.}


This is silly. BR has said on a couple of occasions that when Suarez has done something wrong, he speaks to him in private and makes him fully aware that certain actions are unacceptable. Why would he then want to come out in public and slate his own players when everyone else in the country is doing it. How many times do you want him to say Suarez was wrong and his actions fell well below the clubs standards? Its pathetic. If he didn't say anything or he slammed Suarez, fans and the media would be all over him about not protecting the player etc. He can't win either way.


Hopefully he gets sacked then been pulling the wool over peoples eyes all season


The best bit was that he doesn't feel Suarez has let him down! I mean, really?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:02:21
Have any English teams (hopefully Liverpool) shown any interest in Sokratis P. the Werder defender? Or even the spanish cb's Ruiz Torre (Valencia) and Alvaro Soto (used to play for Atletico, not sure where he is now).

Cheers,
ForzaRed {Ed002's Note - Not English teams at this time.}


All jonjo knows is that he won't be there next season end of


 

 

25 Apr 2013 19:01:54
Sorry this is late seen jonjo in the Trafford Centre yesterday he said he thinks suarez will stay for one more season. He also said Liverpool will try to go for a top draw player (his words) that's all folks


 

 

25 Apr 2013 18:38:33
Just out of curiosity who would you go for to replace suarez.
I think there will be a player exchange between either barca Madrid or bayern.

At a guess:
Tello thiago plus 20m
Benzema or Higuain plus 20m
Gustavo shaqiri plus 30m


In general, player exchanges don't happen.

Take the money and sign who the manager wants not who the opposition want rid of.


Didn't realise Higuain & Benzema were available for a mere £15m each ;)

Disney!


Seriously why would the likes of benzema or higuain want to come to Liverpool?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 18:33:55
Hey eds, I was just wondering what you think Liverpool need this summer as opposed to what they will get?

Chris {Ed002's Note - Central defenders and a wide player have to be the priority. A goalkeeper and a replacement for anyone leaving must also be on the list.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 18:24:59
hi eds what are the chances if any of cutting short andy carrolls loan spell or was it for the rest of the season also I think the suarez ban could possibly work in our favour we could play carroll up front wiith sturridge and with luis coming back in early october it will be like a 50 million pound signing if the front two were to gel together we could then play suarez couthino and gerrard behind them in a three with lucas sitting deep 4 defenders and a goalkeeper with the likes of stirling allen henderson etc to call upon just a thought {Ed002's Note - No, that is not going to happen.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 18:20:13
Liverpool should go for luis muriel and hector moreno.


Luis muriel recently signed a new long term deal and will cost a lot of money {Ed002's Note - Muriel is in the midst of transfer discussions elsewhere.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 16:29:29
10 games ban hasn't gone well with Suarez, Liverpool and his agent, they might appeal the ban instead of Liverpool involving directly.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 16:26:44
So Suarez feels hard done by? Here's an idea stop doing such stupid things and maybe the FA won't have a reason to punish you.


So Ian Ayre thinks the manager needs to work with Luis on his disciplinary record, Rodgers feels the ban is for the man and not the incident and won't help in Suarez' rehabilitation. Here is a point neither of them have mentioned, if you need to tell a man in his mid twenties not to bite people then he really is lacking. Maybe if this was his first incident it wouldn't be ten games but since he's signed for us the lad has been charged with racial abuse, the fallout of which cost a club legend his job, then in the same season give some Fulham fans a one finger salute, now this yet another ban and more bad press for a club already struggling. As we fall further behind United, hell even Everton could finish above us again this season all our focus is on a player that is either unbelievably stupid or shows total disrespect for everyone involving Liverpool football club.

There is not a conspiracy, witch hunt or unfair treatment, if this was a United player most of you would be saying ten games isn't enough.

always a red


Always a red

that's the best summing up of the situation I've read


 

 

25 Apr 2013 17:27:44
Hi ed's2
I do believe FA have thrown the book at Suarez but not looking at the offence but rather the player this is not his first offence and its not going to be his last (like any hungry player). I hope lfc/suarez do monitor future incidents and if FA don't offer similar bans then they should take FA to the court of arbitration.
You may disagree but excessive punishment has never made a decent society. I think today Brendan Rodgers got his words spot on.

Thanks

Sajid {Ed002's Note - Regarding the first point (text deleted), there was a statement from The FA explaining it at the time - we are not opening that up again. The FA did not define the ban for Suarez yesterday. Liverpool will not be taking them to the "court of arbitration". I have no idea what you are talking about a "decent society" for. Rodgers may come to regret his whining.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 16:55:21
I think Rodgers has just had a Kenny moment.

The owners will not be impressed with Rodgers criticising the FA.

I wish this club could be run with the ethics and discretion which were the hallmarks off it's wonderful past and not the stupid vacuous access all areas 24 hrs news soundbites of the current administration.

Can we have our club back please?


Exactly what I was thinking, its was like kenny 2


He told it as it is. Totally agree with him, 100%. Looks like BR might be growing a set after all!


I thought Lfc had employed a new PR guy?

I'm guessing the old one trained him up before he left!

HB


Guys Rodgers is allowed an opinion. I am sure other managers would say something just chill out.


Hamann said: "Suarez was always going to get six games plus. Would it not have sent out a stronger message if the club suspended him for two weeks? It would show him and everybody else who plays for the club in the future what LFC is all about - respect and dignity.

"If you think Suarez is victimized by the FA, don't forget he wasn't told to bite Ivanovic. Pointless arguing about the length of the ban. Suarez got eight games last year and he was always going to get more for that. Accept it and get on with it.

"I support and respect LFC. I'm not slamming the club but the conduct of one of its employees."


Oh so its so wrong to criticize the FA ok let's just get one of our own directors on the FA board works for united so why should we be so different {Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Manchester United - it is to do with Suarez and the actions of Suarez. He is yet again to blame and a repeat offender who clearly cannot learn from his past mistakes.}


Slandering the FA is ridiculous. They will not back down, just have their backs up the next time Suarez does something stupid. And yes, there will be a next time.


Hamanm has lost a lot of respect from the vast majority of fans from his comments over the past 6 months on different topics.

He should stick to talking about cricket


 

 

25 Apr 2013 16:55:08
What is your view on our interest in Alberto Botia?


Alberto Botia is an ideal replacement for Carragher, I am sure Rodolfo as had an imput in targeting the player. Taught the Barcelona way, right sided Centre back, 24 yrs of age shouldn't be too expensive.


Oh and while i'm here I quote look lads the whole of the country hates us the FA hate us and all other teams hate us not my words those of fergy almost 25 years ago didn't do united any harm did it


 

 

25 Apr 2013 16:52:33
If so many of you fans want to sack rodgers think about this. The one thing that may keep luis suarez at our club is a clearr direction and progress. I my opinion great strides of progress has been made, and whether you agree or not we are tantalisingly close to champions league.

So think about this. We sack rodgers, start again and fall further behind everyone else. Luis suarez wastes aanother year of his career and undoubtably moves on.

If suarez can see intent and progression from the club, he will stay. If we sack rodgers, he will have a nailed on reason to leave.

Think about that before you call for rodgers head.

Anonymous woolback


Or Rodgers gets sacked, Liverpool get a manager who knows what he is doing and what players to sign and we make champions league in his first season.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 16:47:24
Please stop using the term, no one is bigger than the club. Our club that sits in 7th, and there and there abouts, for the last 3 years. Suarez is not bigger than 7th in the 3 best league in Europe?
I too now believe he will be sold, and we will step further into mediocrity. With a hit and miss Gerrard getting even older, there's no other world class player at our club.
This summers transfer window is the most important in the last 22 years. I hope we find a couple of gems. I pray we find talent.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 16:43:56
for those of you still triping on about conspiracies and how fa want suarez out of england I have to say you are really embarrassing the club, if it was a Manchester United player would you feel the same? no didn't think so, I think the ban was fair, some of you can't take your red tinted specs off to look at the facts about this disgusting human and what he has already done in england, over on the Manchester United page they are talking about strengthening their team with lewandowski after just winning their 20th title, it just shows how they don't hang around and they move on to look for more success, and what are we doing, stuck in reverse and making up conspiracy theories, even pepe reina has come out and embarrasses the club with his stupid comments. people are so thick. it seems suarez is becoming bigger than the club when you are choosing to back him and his actions over our repuatation


Top post!


 

 

25 Apr 2013 16:33:35
How can people say Suarez got King Kenny the sack? He got sacked because he spent millions on Carroll Henderson Downing and Adam and we finished 8th joint with Fulham in 9th. When you spend around 100 million and don't improve the squad your out the door. If we finished 3rd in the league Kenny would still be manager NOW even after the Suarez/Evra episode.
DBol {Ed002's Note - December 21, 2011.}


You're wrong DBol


Ed002 are you saying if Liverpool had won the league King Kenny would have still got sacked because he stuck up for Suarez? No chance.

"If you don't believe the results are right and feel 37 points off the champions and 17 points off Champions League pace is a long distance you have to make a change" Ian Ayre after sacking KK

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool didn't win the league - they were eighth.}


25 Apr 2013 17:04:58
Mate he didn't pay millions to carroll, downing, hendo etc, it was camolli, ian ayre and the board who were negotiating and accepted to pay those fees instead of kenny.

Rodgers has spent 60-70M and the season is failure compare to last year, keep in mind those are net spent compare to kenny`s net spend 30M and missing Gerrad (6 months), lucas (6 months) Suarez (10 games 8 for evra issue and 2 for showing finger to fulhan fans) yet we achieved two finals won one and finished 7-8th, if rodgers missed those player we would be fighting religation that's how backwards he has taken the club despite spending 60-70m.


So if we finish 8th again this season, will Brendan Rodgers be sacked?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 15:47:47
Up until the Suarez incident kenny was doing a great job. Attacking football, more shots on goal than any other team. We had hit the post bout 20 times

It all changed after that. Suarez was to blame for that.
Now we have a David Brent who has swallowed the psychobabble handbook

Bring the king back as behind the scenes and Rafa as manager


Yeah and let's throw toshack and keegan back upfront aswell!

This Liverpool team has scored more league goals than any Liverpool team has in something like the last 18 years, and that's with basically playing half the season with effectivly one striker and with having a smaller, younger squad than most of the Liverpool managers have had to work with in that 18 year period.

Give the guy some kind of chance. All I will say is that this summer he does need to find a few additions that will make us a bit more physical, stronger, more aggressive, grittier and maybe a bit more pacier in midfield. So we can start having a real blend between strength, pace and flair.

What we need to be able to do is be able to say to teams - if you wanna fight, we'll give you a fight and if you wanna play football, we'll play you off the park.

Kev79


Nice one Kev79.

Dave Demix


Yawn. Rodgers thinks suarez is a victim.
Congratulations if that's what you want from your manager

I don't hear anyone singing his name


 

 

25 Apr 2013 15:44:49
question for edd do you think we sign many in the summer or do u think br will be given so much to spend because at moment I think will going to struggle money needs to be pumped in or we could face relegation
thanks gazza0000 {Ed002's Note - Players will arrive but much will depend on who leaves.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 15:35:43
Ed's how many players are we off of champions league and in what departments do we need strengthening? {Ed002's Note - The defence is the priority.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 15:35:27
After pledging his future to the club Suarez will now turn his back on it as he thinks Liverpool should be doing all they can get his ban over turned. He will now be heading to Munich with Prince Mario as well as Gustavo heading in the other direction plus some euros too.
ShoutE


 

 

25 Apr 2013 15:35:13
Back on to football, and I believe we should be looking for a better LB than Enrique, and a better DM than Lucas. Neither are currently good enough to start regularly, and both epitomise certain sections of our support who are happy to accept mediocrity. Jose seems to think that in order for him to pass the ball, he must take on 4 players previous, his positioning is constantly poor, and his use of the ball isn't good enough either.
Lucas had a very good few months at the start of last season, but he just doesn't do his job in the team. It is a shame, as he is a good lad, but he has become vastly overrated by Liverpool fans. I have never known a player give away as many silly fouls in dangerous areas as him either, and DM is the first position I would sign a player in come the summer. We have still not replaced Mascherano.
JFT96
Smithy


I feel johnson, henderson and downing all come under the category of 'overhyped and overrated' as well, I don't feel enrique is though.

Anonymous woolback


 

 

25 Apr 2013 15:03:56
Eds, is LS still being investigated for his punch in the Uruguay match or have they decided on no action? {Ed002's Note - See earlier answer please.}


And some Liverpool fans STILL think LS is hard done by ;)

Disney!


 

 

25 Apr 2013 14:31:08
Let's be honest here, this is not a conspiracy against the club, it's an epidemic of sensationalism spawned through the demands and blood-lust of journalists and supporters alike.

For the first time in my life I now thinks our star-player is going.

Yep, I'm sick for sure, but I'm a realist who thinks, 'never mind'.

You can't just blame the press alone as it's our society that is a scourge on everything that was once good, creating a mentality of celebrity obsessiveness with sensationalist journalists biting on the ankles of potential stories.

At the same time, you can blame Suarez (which I do), but you can't blame him for considering his future.

The FA, unfortunately, have followed this trend.

And that's the overall story really.

It's enlightening to a degree that the general consensus appears to be 50/50 for and against, but worrying that such actions divide supporters on their opinions, and that's why it appears that there will be changes.

A shame.

DaveyBootle


 

 

25 Apr 2013 14:29:57
Hi Eds

If Liverpool qualify for europe via fareplay route can we decline. My thinking is europa esp playing on Thursday's is a big distraction and a disadvantage for the league.

Thanks again eds
Zorro {Ed002's Note - Yes, the club could decline. I am not sure that would be either acceptable to the club nor a sensible thing to do.}


Is there not a trophy to be won there? It's a legitimate contest with good competition from Europe. I honestly don't understand fans looking at the new version of the cup winners cup as a distraction. We should compete in everything we can qualify for. This idea of CL or bust is ridiculous. Even if it is treated as an opportunity to rotate squad, experiment with formations, or blooding youngsters. Why would we decline that opportunity along with adding to the trophy cabinet.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 14:29:22
Ed I have been looking on some other football pages on here to see the reaction to Suarez am I correct in thinking the LFC page is the most active and also the most agumentative. Is this because we are all hoping for an upturn in fortunes or just wanting to be in the know {Ed002's Note - I am not sure why you would expect fans of other clubs to be discussing Suarez.}


Ed so are you saying no other supporters are talking about luis suarez GET REAL {Ed002's Note - Are you some sort of half-wit? There are no debates about Suarez on the other pages.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 14:26:27
Spot on from pee reina!


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:45:20
Been reading quite a few posts including some nonsense from muppets being directed to the Eds.

Firstly - much as we may think the ban is harsh - as I do, there is only one person who brought it upon himself. yes Luis Suarez.

There is no doubt he's a top player, but much as I support him, he comes with baggage.


Whilst he plays for us, I'll support him. But we need to realise that he has damaged the club and cost the King his job in my view.

Question - do we support a player who though a proven match winner - cheats to gain an advantage, dives, stamps on opponents, constantly barracks referees, has racially abused a player and now bites another. ?


Remember - he wears our colours, our emblem, represents the Club, our tradition and history.


I say stand by him for now. But only because I hate to see one of our players be vilified as a pariah akin to something from Salem's Witch Hunt.

But a player can be more trouble than its worth and there's no point having a player that gets suspended for large parts of a season anyway.

He'll be off in the Summer anyway- and like I've always said - never get attached to any player - the Club is more important than any player.


M


Suarez didn't cost king kenny his job! People need to realise that kenny was only managing the team to help out the owners until they saw fit to get someone else in! Plus if you want to be critical then look at kennys transfers, how much he spent! Look at the results in 2nd half of the season! You can say he got us to 2 cup finals but the fact is we beat Cardiff on penalties and got beat by Chelsea in FA cup final! Ill always respect king kenny for everything he's done for the club and for the city but it was time to start a new era for the club!

James {Ed002's Note - Suarez was one of the reasons Dalglish lost his job. As of the evening December 21, 2011 it was clear Dalglish would be gone at the end of the season.}


Dalglish lost his job because of how he handled the suarez situation. Very different. Poor man management. {Ed002's Note - And who caused the "Suarez situation".}


You could see it in Kenny's face. He knew he was out.

DaveyBootle


Kenny list his job signing Carroll Downing and Henderson, nothing to do with backing Suarez. Everyone at Liverpool unconditionally loves the King but his transfers cost him and us dearly {Ed002's Note - Rubbish.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:39:29
Ed 002 I am amazed at your comments about "Luis Suarez has brought this upon himself". Football is a game of passion and a contact sport where decisions are made on reflexes and not necessarily the correct one's. If you take away passion and have all the team made up of Downing's or just play the gospel of our coach Tiki taka it would be a boring game. You keep harping on about what he has done in the past. Please note he was found guilty of racism by a biased FA who wanted to show the world that the comments made by Sepp Blatter were wrong by making an example of him. If Suarez had been racist why did Manchester Police did not charge him. If I am not mistaken you are a Chelsea supporter and the two points must hurt. I also wonder where are those supporters who chastised me in the past of supporting our team come rain or storm. Please note Suarez is a team member and the best work horse I have seen. There is a storm out there and he needs your support. IF I was not down under I would turn up outside Wembley with a Placard reading FA are bunch of Bullies. If nothing else atleast the gutter press would have a story. {Ed002's Note - Nobody has ever suggested Suarez is a racist. I find it rather sad that you are "amazed" that I think Suarez has brought this on himself.}


Ed, your going to get persons like this and some of the others who are really only sticking up for him because of who he plays for! Had it been another player from another team they would be all over it! Similarities are made of past misdemeanors from suarez himself and defoe! The thing about Liverpool is its a club of the past! Supporters are all about what they did
! Its not a forward looking club
! People need to move on and look forwrd and not back!


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:31:52
Liverpool
My lovely Liverpool
You make me happy
When skys are grey
Remember the good times
And the bad times
But the FA ran suarez away

What you think

Wolvo_Jake


When will people see this for what it is. The FA had nothing to do with it until Suarez acted like an animal. All fault lies at his feet and nobody else. His ban is deserving and should be increased to twenty if he ever decides to do any other disgusting act in English football again. I've followed Liverpool for over 40 years and he has brought more shame to my beloved club in 2 seasons than I have ever witnessed in all my time. It's embarrassing to see Liverpool fans act like little children who's rattle was taken away.

Ashamed of Suarez but not my Club


25 Apr 2013 13:58:02
Suarez you dips**t,
You major dips**t,
Ivanovic is not edible,
Was it worth biting,
And fighting,
Now you've spent 18 games in the stands.

Don't think either of us should quit our day jobs ;)

YNWA! (Adam)


25 Apr 2013 17:36:00
Agreed adam ahah.
And was just trying to get a bit of comedy out the situation tbh.

Wolvo_Jake


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:27:24
Ed002 I think it was said about the meeting between Guardiola and the club later, is there anyway you would be able to update the fans what rumblings come out of the meeting if you get wind of it. Cheers for the effort as well as the answer to an earlier question about possible replacements {Ed002's Note - I have no idea - we'll see.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:23:40
Pepe Reina hit the nail on the head when commenting on Suarez by making comparisons to him being a "street footballer". Its this mentality we see week in week out on the pitch. Maybe the press and media should take note of his routes. Suarez has clearly found this label difficult to shake off. It's difficult to change a person's mentaility. Hopefully if he remains at Liverpool he will get the help and support, which will aid him to become the complete player he should be. YNWA


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:23:36
How about Ricky Van Woflswinkel as a replacement?


25 Apr 2013 13:44:41
joined norwich seems


Replacement for who? Grant Holt?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:21:42
Hello Eds,
Say we manage to sell Suarez for 40 million GBP and Carroll for 12-15 million GBP. Any chance of doing a double swoop for James Rodriguez and Jackson Martinez for say 60 million GBP or is it just wishful thinking? {Ed002's Note - I cannot seriously be expected to answer that.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:14:15
Eds, won't the saurez ban be longer than ten games? Ithought after the yellow card on sunday he would be banned or does the ten games include them

martin p {Ed002's Note - Right now is ban is for 10 games and already in force.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:06:38
Afternoon eds, do you Lfc will appeal the 10 match ban? And if so, do u think maybe 2 or 3 of the 10 matches that he's banned for may be suspended for a certain amount of time pending his behaviour?

Ian H {Ed002's Note - Liverpool can appeal 7 of the games so in theory it could reduce to three on appeal. However, if the appeal is found to be frivolous the ban can be increased to 17 games.}


Just take the 10 and move on. It's only 6 games next season, and I doubt he'll be here anyway


 

 

25 Apr 2013 13:01:53
Sparky's awfully quiet Ed's. Are Pepe and JonJonJo keeping him busy? {Ed002's Note - Pepe is now bound and gagged under the stairs. Sparky has been quiet as he has been tied up with the DVD launch of the film he made last year - Frankenweenie.}


Thanks Ed ;)


Sparky is Frankenweenie!

The real AG


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:56:17
Hey guys, its my understanding that Liverpool have a budget of about £20m before player sales for the whole of next season including the January window.

IN:
Williams £8m (Swansea)
Botia £7 (Sevilla)
Alonso £20m
Erikkson £16m


OUT:
Downing £8m to Aston Villa/ Fulham/ Cardiff
Pacheco (Loan to Reading)
Ngoo (£250,000) to Hearts
Skrtel £10m to Anzhi
Assaidi to Ajax (part of Erikkson deal)
Carroll £18m to West Ham


Alonso for £20m. Are you made pal? He's 31 yeas old!


25 Apr 2013 13:45:47
.

Carroll £18m to West Ham

whats this buddy?


I'd give 20 mill all day for alonso bit of stability an a wonderful player who's the 40 year old grey headed welsh person who's still doing well at man u s****d get alonso in for me. Lfc fazak. Post plse eds thanks great site


Who plays on our wing if we sell Downing and don't replace him? And why do we have 7 players for 3 positions in the center?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:53:32
Ed, is Suarez's ban starting immediately? I personally look forward to seeing how we perform without him. Considering we are a "one man team" we should lose each game 3-0, right?

Do you remember when Gerrards legs first went, and everybody constantly passed it to him expecting him to do something spectacular like he used to? It damaged our football massively, and made us look like an average one man team. Suarez is phenominal, but he is wasteful, and players focus too much on giving him the ball, they forget their own game.

I think we should just wait and see guys, as this could be the rest of the teams time to shine. Would love Suso to play behind Sturridge.

YNWA! (Adam) {Ed002's Note - Yes.}


25 Apr 2013 13:27:48
So you wanna proove Liverpool Fc is no one man team and we certainly will not miss Suarez.
But still not botherd about No europe next seaosn.

Buddy what actually you do on wednesday nights?
dont your fellow frndz make fun of you?

or you repetedly keeps arguing that we will finally hit the bulls eye next seaosn?

and what you think this saturday.
We are going to win by 4-1?


Is it not worthwhile to wonder how we will cope without him? Liverpool won 5 of the 8 last time he was banned. Luis Suarez is a footballer, Liverpool is the club, will you go support whoever he is sold to Harry or continue to follow the club?

Nonamer


25 Apr 2013 13:49:02
Its purely opinion Harry. I don't think losing Suarez will hurt us too badly thanks to Danny Sturridge. I don't think people give our team enough credit. I'm not going to judge us without Suarez based on the last 4 games, as that's stupid. We've spent a whole season building around him, and adjustment takes time. However it'll still be interesting. If we lose Suarez, and by december we are in a worse position, I will apologise Harry, and admit we are awful without Luis.

YNWA! (Adam)


Personally, I think that (next season at least) defense is key. Our leaky back has meant that to win games, we need to score at least 2 and 3 to be safe more or less every time we're not facing a bottom of the league team. Next season if we can reasonably hope for our defense to be at least fairly solid, maybe scoring one or two will be enough which we certainly have the creativity and firepower to do


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:45:00
All those defending the length of the ban, need to try and take a step back and review the situation. What Luis did was senseless and mindless. I'm not condemning the man and I admire a lot about him on and off the pitch. However in the cold light of day he bit another human being, in an unprovocted attack.

In reality no lasting damage was done and Ivanovic/Chelsea to their credit made no fuss to try and worsen the situation. But those trying to compare the ban to other situations need to realise its impossible to do that. It was unprovoked, they weren't fighting brawling and it wasn't retaliation. Luis just decided to do something a 3 year old in the playground would do because they don't know any better.

Luis is a grown man and should take his punishment on the chin. If he wants to turn tail and run then let him. Nobody is bigger than the club, no matter what you'll say. Teams achieve more than individuals and as good as he is, if he goes we group together and rebuild.

I personally don't want him to leave despite the above. He is a world class talent and would be sorely missed. But if he goes then so be it, nobody is irreplaceable and we'll find other talents if we look smartly and wise enough.

Papa G


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:38:02
This harry scousser needs to check his facts before posting. What kind of lfc fan thinks we have finished 8th for 3 consecutive seasons? For your information, we are 7th now, and we were 6th the season before last.

Hounsred


25 Apr 2013 13:25:20
doent matter much mate.
League consists of Top Teams or Champions League Teams.
rest comes in one category.
34 points of top 1.
and probably 5 points above 8th.
there is only question end of the seaosn.
have you won something?. No.
are u in CL next seaosn. No?

doesnt matter whether its 6th, 7th 8th or 16th.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 11:51:35
do you know what - I'm really flipping annoyed by all these rumors coming out now about Suarez leaving. Not at the fact that it might happen but that he's got the cheek to leave because of the punishment he's been given

And 'oh I feel victimized' - Did you consider this one Suarez - don't be such a tool and give the FA / Independent panel or whoever the ammunition to victimize you then. Do nothing wrong and you'll get no punishment - simples

Quality player - but we can't afford to have a player out of action for, on average, over 20% of our league games a season

He may have single-handedly stopped the momentum Liverpool have been generating this season and knocked us back a peg or 2 - there's no way we will replace him with anyone as good. I'm used to giving up on a season after around 10 games - but not before it's even started!


To me, it's a lot like Nani being sent off against Real. Was the extent of the reaction or punishment justified? Unlikely. Did he do the act which opened the possibility, perhaps even likelyhood of it? Undoubtedly yes. It sucks but he did it, he's one of us and this is his and our punishment. Just how life is


 

 

25 Apr 2013 11:51:24
Breaking transfer news. Byern NOT after Suarez according German reporter.

Brad


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:26:04
Players that Rodgers should consider
A)Papadopoulos
B)Gundogan
C)Strootman
D)Auybemyang
E)Dede
F)Boudebouz


If Suarez were to leave I really think we should look at one of Jackson Martinez and Rodrigo (Benfica) to replace him and should even try for one of Henrikh Mhkrtiyan (Spelling) or James Rodriguez if we get something like 40-45 million pounds for Suarez.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:22:29
Am thinking that if suarez does push for a move away, the only clubs that would be willing to pay that sort of money (and put-up with him) would be a russian or Turkish team. can't see him staying in England, any Spanish, German or Italian (Balotelli?) teams taking a risk on him.

If he does go, not only will we lose him, but he has managed to de-value himself in the process.

If he turns his back on us after the club have stood up for him time and time again, I can see him being hated as much as Torres.

Sad times.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:21:14
Does Suarez's ban extend to playing friendlies? Was hoping to see him in Australia if he's still at LFC then {Ed002's Note - The ban does not stop him playing in friendlies. But I have already postulated on him being involved in the pre-season tour - you might want to look at that.}


I've read you mention that you do not expect him to be involved pre-season. I was just wondering if he is eligible? {Ed002's Note - See lines above.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:18:08
Heard from a friend who lives in Spain that Liverpool will sign Iker Muniain, Roberto Soldado & Jose Callejon in the summer.


25 Apr 2013 13:28:49
That would be dream. But won't happen.
and probably would end the hell of allen and borinis


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:05:07
Ed's what I don't get about the FA ban is Ivanoic clearly showed the ref the bite mark and yet he didn't take any action. So why go to the other extreme and severly ban him by 10 games? The ref clearly didn't see it but when seeing the bite mark still decided it wasn't enough to send him off.

Your thoughts? {Ed002's Note - The referee did not see the incident. Suarez brought this on himself and whilst the ban is harsh it is not unexpected gievn the problems he has created since he came to England.}


The ban is not harsh, if you watch the video slowly its nasty and should be treated as assualt (ABH) which therefore should mean a minimum of 3 years at her majesties pleasure!

Much love


The poster above - you'd expect him to get three years in prison for that? Are you serious?


25 Apr 2013 22:04:41
Ed002 - I get what you are saying Suarez is a prat for doing it, but end of the day it is well known that the independant panel is to consider each case on a incident by incident basis. Not on the percieved reputation of a individual.

The ref clearly saw the bit marks on his arm, he didn't see the actual bit but invanic showed him the apparent mark.

Like you said the ban is harsh and is unexpected if you consider the letter of the law and way situations like this have been handled in the past. {Ed002's Note - The panel judged the offence as charged. The panel determined the punishment based on tehg offence and took account of the previous history of the player whilst in England - and it is quite frankly appalling. They did their job and I agree the penalty was harsh.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 12:04:32
changing the subject. anyone else like to see agger take up the dm role or even gerrard holding back more, poor lads getting on a bit now ; )
jg


 

 

25 Apr 2013 11:43:00
Eds, are the rumours true that Suarez is going to meet with management today to try and force a move? {Ed002's Note - A meeting will be held with Pere Guardiola and the club. I do not know what will be said.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 11:42:03
An awful lot been said about the 10 game ban etc, however, I would like to add something to the debate - not the length of ban, but the whole FA procedure and how totally flawed it is.

As the FA state, if the ref sees the incident they cannot do anything. If the ref had seen the bite, would he have booked him? - second booking, off and 1 game ban. Would he have sent him off? 3 game ban.

As ref doesn't see it then there is a 10 game ban?

I do think this is a bit harsh personally, but I just cannot understand how the FA have such a flawed process.

Although I think LFC should just get on with whatever they feel they need to do, if this was in any other place of work I am sure legal would be having a field day with the FA!


If the ref chooses to send off Suarez, they can still extend the ban beyond the normal 3 matches for violent conduct. Look at what happened with Joey Barton - he was sent off in the match and got 12, Thatcher got 8


 

 

25 Apr 2013 11:15:11
If we sell Suarez then that's it for Liverpool. We have no one else and will be relying on replancements who Rodgers brings in. Going off last summer we are fu**ed. the fans need a star player, Stevie can't do it every game and without Suarez we are No better than Villa


 

 

25 Apr 2013 10:44:30
If Suarez does leave I feel we all should see him as a hero and not a villain. Yes he could stay and fight for champions league football with us but let's be fair, the English public and media hate him and its at a point now where I feel he just cannot cope.

Suarez, as much as I'd like you to stay, I'll understand why you may leave.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 10:23:16
some fans here are worried about the value of money dropped by suarez himself.
how disgusting, his value was created by his goals and his magic in the pitch.
suerly lads he will not end up as a failure.
like downing hendo adam caroll and henderosn.
who cost us the CL which we should havce ben by now.


Have you been drinking


What irrational thought


 

 

25 Apr 2013 10:18:24
Well said Pepe Reina, just read what he's said about the english press and the FA on how unfair they are to players from other countries! That they don't have any consistency when banning players! The FA are a joke!

Ack17 {Ed002's Note - The FA did not set the ban.}


Who did then ed2? {Ed002's Note - An Independent Commission.}


An independent commission what a joke. {Ed002's Note - You might want to look at who is entirely responsible for this matter instead.}


Who is in the Independent Commission? {Ed002's Note - They are formed from a list of suitable people to deal with disciplinary matters independently.}


These guys are there to give an objective unbiased ruling.

All concerned (i. e. everyone who watches PL football ) will have to wait for this body panel or Independent Commission to give their reasons for such a heavy ban.

I for one will study this in depth as this can severely damage a player's career and make a huge difference to a a clubs fortunes!

Blue247 {Ed002's Note - You can study it all you wish but Suarez is not the victim here - he brought this on himself and, yet again, he brought problems for the club.}


Ed002:

I totally agree he (Suarez) is not in any way a victim.

Football is the victim and he made the initial deciding move by his own volition in this instance!

However the magnitude of the ban has taken every ones breath away and will make interesting reading.

Blue247 {Ed002's Note - You need to consider all of the other things he has done since he arrived in England.}


Ed002:

''You need to consider all of the other things he has done since he arrived in England. ''

Like I keep typing this will ''make interesting reading''

Blue247


It may have been a so called independant panel. But before they sat the FA said the incident required a lengthy ban, D Cameron said he should get a lenghty ban, and you eds keep saying they are independant, they may be independant but the only way they could be unbiased is without these high profile comments before hand {Ed002's Note - Cameron did not say that at all. The FA did not say taht. This is getting really embarrassing. Did you fight to clear Joey Barton's name last summer?}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 10:15:16
Probably If we were winning the match by 2-0.
he would have never bite anyone.
after coming from 3 successive draws and 1-2 down against chelsea.
the man lost his control.
some bite. some scolds. some push. some argue with referees, some kick the goal keepers. some dives for desperation.
human brains. things happens.
move on.
but that one moment will not erase the magic he created for all those million watche dhim play over 30 games this season.

but he needs to be sold. for humanitary or else the media will eat him alive here.


25 Apr 2013 10:39:31
Harry Scousser I don't understand why your so worried and keep repeating the samething, if Suarez is sold then we have a world class manager who is going to spend the money and get us champions league, just have faith in rodgers, trust me Rodgers is next paisley who is going to change Liverpool forever.

In rodgers we trust.


A World Class Manager?


 

 

25 Apr 2013 10:13:46
Eds. in your opionon do u think suerez will remain a lpool player next season and if we win fair play award do u think will accept Europa league again ynwa {Ed002's Note - I don't want to get embroiled in any discussion about whether he will stay or go - I gave my opinion when he made the most recent statements from Uruguay and I will stick with that. As I explained, Mr Ayre has done the best he can in protecting the club in respect of Suarez leaving. I rather suspect the chances of entering Europe via the Fair Play League are very slim.}


Surely biting someone is fair?

It is where I'm from!

Transalvania!


 

 

25 Apr 2013 09:55:04
Lets get this straight.
This is not a witch-hunt against Luis Suarez.
He done an awful thing on a football pitch in front of millions of people.
He has done this once before and got a seven game ban.
Realistically for the second time he should have got a fourteen game ban.
He got a ten match ban which we should accept.
He is to blame, he is the problem, he has let everyone down so let's just move on.


 

 

25 apr 2013 09:35:48
been hearing (don't no how true) in the next coming weeks luis suarez will put in a transfer request to be honest who can blame him the media are on a witch hunt granted he doesn't help his cause but its as bad as defo now i no its different because the ref seen it but a bite is a bite regardless can u see this happen our super no7 wanting out (in my eyes suarez will never walk alone special talent please don't leave jon96


Suarez has already put in a transfer request, he did it on Sunday against Chelsea.

He did the same when he wanted to leave Ajax and will repeat it when he wants to leave his next club.

Very clever man, fabulous player.


So you don't think biting someone's arm counts as a formal transfer request.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 09:04:25
Sorry for adding to an undoubtedly long list of Suarez posts. I hope he stays and I'm not going to speculate whether he will or won't. Only time will tell. What I will say is that there's a clear pattern of cheating (use of hands and diving), violence (biting and punching) and, to be kind, an inability to live by the rules of country he earns his living in (Evra). He clearly has some issues. Any system of penalties is generally progressive in severity until you reach the point of no return (lifetime ban). 10 games shouldn't have been a shock. Eight was one more than seven and ten is more than eight - see, progressive. Any employer or HR person knows this. He has to learn before we get to a worse stage than the one we are at. I think he also needs to recognise who has stood by him and what the cost has been to the club and several individuals. It's time for him to pay us back with something as well as goals. Good behaviour!!


 

 

25 apr 2013 08:47:02
anyone else sick to death of the suarez subject. never thought i'd say this but i look forward to this site going back to the way it was.

rodgers is rubbish!

oh no he is not!

oh yes he is!

oh no he is not!

oh yes he is!

come back i miss you!


Also bring back:
Henderson out
Downing out
Johnson out
Allen out
Shelvey out
Coates out
Borini out
Skrtel out
RODGERS OUT!


AND
Reina out
Gerrard lost his legs


 

 

25 Apr 2013 08:45:40
Total injustice as regards the 10 match ban. Suarez is a fool to do what he did but the inconsistency of the FA is evident.


Furthermore, the whole incident has taken the spotlight off BR and the failure of a season this has been for LFC in a football sense. Suarez has probably saved BRs bacon this year by carrying the team for the majority of the campaign and then taking the heat off him by this biting incident and media frenzy that distracts from the real business - the football.


Suarez is clearly frustrated in a team that is not as good as his talents and a manager who does not have a clue how to improve things.


RD


 

 

25 Apr 2013 08:27:47
Accidentally hit post, continuation of the post below.

Does anyone else think that would make us a stronger side? I personally believe we could have a stronger squad if we spent the money wisely and promoted youth. There is no need to splash big bucks around trying to replace like for like. However acquiring 2 or 3 good player could replace what Suarez brings to us. With much less of the off field disgrace he brings on the club.

Cheers,

KiwiRed


 

 

25 Apr 2013 08:25:25
I've read a lot of posts over the past few days about how we cannot allow Suarez to leave despite all the negativity he brings on the club because we cannot replace him. But why can't we? Yes like for like we wouldn't be able to attract a player like Suarez, however who says we have to replace all that he brings on the football pitch with one player?

Why can't we bring in 2 or 3 players to replace what he does. What if we were to return for someone like Ince or Dsudszak for the wing, move Coutinho inside behind Sturridge in the roaming Suarez role? Then sign another striker to add depth. We would then of course have the likes of Sterling on the bench, and the probable/possible promotion of Ibe and Suso to the first team. With the rest of the money we acquire from the sale of Suarez (if there was any left) we could strengthen in defence which we sorely need.

D


Because if we replace him with 2 or 3 players only one can play in his place and with his talent he is ireplaceble unless we can spend many millions, and who in that category would come to Anfield


 

 

25 Apr 2013 08:25:20
Some things I find amusing when I come on here and read some comments.

- people saying to fire Rodgers and get someone like Klopp in. Firstly, why would Klopp want to leave Dortmund who are currently playing semi-final of champions league. Then those people don't realise that Klopp, a former Mainz player, was a television pundit and then went on to manage Mainz who eventually got relegated. Then Dortmund gave him a chance. He wasn't famous manager before Dortmund and didn't bring with him a ton of experience. Dortmund took the risk with him. Yet these supporters struggle to give Brendan Rodgers, who has more coaching experience than Klopp, twelve months. I struggle to understand those people and can't see why they won't find it within themselves to give him a chance. You know that Klopp's first year with Dortmund they came 6th.

- Secondly, to all those people that ask the eds if there is any chance we could sign cavani, falcao, lewandowski, reus, hummel etc. No there isn't a chance. These players are established, world class players who currently get champions league football and are not going to come to Liverpool right now. Not given our current position. Hopefully one day in the near future we can be linked with these players. You have to remember that what Liverpool are trying to do is find the gems before they are world renowned. Lewandowski was tearing it up in Poland's second division when Dortmund signed him.

- Thirdly, to all those who have it in for FSG. These investors saved our club. They have invested heavily since coming to our club. A little more respect to them would be appreciated.

JHM


Our club would never have gone bust, we have international support all over the world and as Ayre said we are the only club in the top 10 that's has not been in the CL for some years.

They bought us to make money, they are an investment group, they didn't buy us to save us.

They have a long way to go before we can believe they are doing things in the best interest of the club. Things could quite easily go the same way as H & G.


Well said, JHM. I completely agree with everything that you have said.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 08:18:11
christen erksen going to join Liverpool becuase i've
talk that they've accepted an offer of 13m and
assaidi.


25 Apr 2013 10:17:16
Errikson will end up in city to replcae silva or dortmund to repace gotze.
y on earth does tha lad will come to us?�
8th position 3 concecutive years.
no cl.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 08:14:42
are Liverpool going to be able to keep suarez and if not who would the replacement be like lewondowski,
dzeko, ramirez from dortmund, mancity and
southampton.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 08:03:18
Morning All,

Personally, I haven't got a problem with Suarez' ban. He committed a cowardly act and has to face the consequences. My issue is with the inconsistency of the FA. He has been banned for violent conduct, but recently we have seen Aguero get away with a two footed stamp, The Mcmanaman challenge go unpunished, and Fellaini get ONLY 3 games for a headbutt! If the FA were consistant I don't think anybody would have a problem.

Tommy Walsh


 

 

25 Apr 2013 07:52:43
Lets be honest Suarez getting a ban hardly effects our side when our season has been over for months.

Suarez was always likely to leave for a club challenging in the CL and for trophies which we are still miles away from doing.

His ban will now make it easier for the owners to cash in on him without backlash, the money can then go back into the side without them having to put more money in.

BR will then have a ready made excuse for next season by saying we are rebuilding :-)


 

 

25 Apr 2013 07:30:00
Suarez getting banned for 10 games will put Rodgers under immense pressure at the start of next season. I think Suarez first league game for Liverpool will be towards the end of October. A season, i'm sure we all agree that we can't start like this one.

The Irish Rover {Ed002's Note - It would be around the end of September not the end of October.}


25 Apr 2013 10:19:23
probably this ban will get anoterh striker in priority list.
cant trust borini to save our season next year.
he is still young 21 and have another 3 years to be in prime.
but Liverpool has been waiting from 23 year for title and 4 years for CL


My bad ed002!

The Irish Rover


 

 

25 Apr 2013 07:06:38
Eds I know obviously a difficult question, but in Liverpools opinion do you think they would rather keep Suarez or sell him and have two 25 million players and maybe spend a bit of their own money separately on Xabi Alonso, and what would you do? Cheers

RedsMatt {Ed002's Note - They will look at the options available to them and discuss the matter with his representatives. I don't see any knee jerk reactions. As soon as this latest mess is cleared up, I would expect that the club will at some point release him from his remaining commitments for this season under condition that he returns to Uruguay and permission will be granted for him to join his national squad for the games in June.
If Liverpool is adamant that they really wish to keep him and not simply protect the image of the club, then I would expect a number of things to happen. I would think something along the lines of: (a) he will be instructed that he is not to travel to Italy this Summer like he did last year; (b) a request will be made of the Uruguayan FA to ask that Suarez not be made available for interview; (c) that he will be accompanied by a specialist communications person brought in from the United States to act as a conduit to the media and to ensure that he says nothing dumb in respect of himself, the club and does not discuss transfers over the summer; and (d) I would expect him to be excluded from teh pre-season tour, perhaps using the excuse of him needing a rest, or a knock arising from the International games in June - we'll see. I am also pretty sure that the club would request certain commitments from his agent or other representative regarding any meetings the two may wish to schedule – this could potentially go as far as the club requesting a third-party be present. The player will be told not to accept sweets or a ride from anyone called Pavel Nedved or Giovanni Branchini.
Ian Ayre has done the right thing to protect the club in terms of saying Suarez will stay. However, if the club are simply moving in to a mode of protecting their image and reputation and would be willing to let the player go then a different story will unfold. Ayres’ statement moves the responsibility for any summer transfer from the club to the player - and in doing so potentially penalises the player significantly.
There will continue to be interest from a number of clubs.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 06:49:47
Ed002 what other strikers does pere guardiola represent? {Ed002's Note - Explicitly none, but he advises Klaas-Jan Huntelaar.}


Ok ed was hoping we could a decent replacement for Suarez if he does leave {Ed002's Note - Clubs don't buy players based on who their agent is. If Suarez were to leave I am sure that Liverpool will be seeking the best possible recruits.}


ED reckon Jackson Martinez or Rodrigo be an option to replace Suarez
? {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 03:41:13
i know everyone says rodgers deserves more than 1 yr but did these people give kenny that chance? I don't think giving rodgers more time will help. he isn't that smart. I would love klopp but he probably needs a bigger club maybe give martinez a chance they should have picked him over rodgers in the fist place.


So we should keep giving managers a year?


Ignoring the fact that Kenny actually had 18 months including one more transfer window than Rodgers?


I cannot believe that there are still posters on these pages who think Kenny would have worked out how to secure Premiership points. It was never going to happen. We had 14 defeats in the league last season.

Even the Millennium has changed since he was a successful manager.

Fabulous player, great man, so sad to see him floundering in the modern game when he should have been at home with his pipe and slippers.


25 Apr 2013 10:20:58
I wish we would have never spend those money on some blunders here.
none have comtributed. if you lok back most of our wins and goals have come from suarez alone or gerrard. very few from hendo and absolute 1% from downing.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 03:06:57
I just got in from watching Iron Man 3 (it was awesome) and the good news is Luis Suarez has a cameo. I'm not lying people.


 

 

25 Apr 2013 02:32:49
People really need to stop trying to come up with excuses and reasoning for why Surez should get a lesser ban etc comparing to other bans and events is pointless he shouldn't have bitten Ivanovic and none of this would have happened simple.
Suarez brought this all on himself, its not even that long ago he stamped on the Zenit player let's be honest Suarez is a person.
Lets stop embarrasing the name of the club and our fanbase and get on with it, he obviously is an amazing footballer but that is it, I can't even wear my Suarez shirt to play football without allot of abuse/banter etc that says it all.

AB


25 Apr 2013 09:00:19
Ab.
He is going in the summer.
lets stop this suarez subject here. he will get us some profit for sure.
lets move on. he is a human being and if he continues. the British clubs and press will eat his head. its better for him to move on rather than our necessity.


Im not to sure, but is he not also looking at a pos fifa ban for punching a player in an international last month? {Ed002's Note - Right now he will miss the first of the two games but will be allowed to join up with the squad. Uruguay are making a legal challenge regarding the use of retrospective video evidence and that would need to be resolved before further punishment can be considered.}


 

 

25 Apr 2013 01:35:33
LOL at daily star!!


 

 

25 Apr 2013 00:20:15
I think that's Suarez's time up with us. cue a transfer request - though I don't think the board will reject a 35mill offer. shame really. but no player is bigger than the club guys.


M


A fountain of positivity once again, M


However we are losing our top scorer this season, someone who was in the running for player of the season and nearly golden boot winner - all of which is out of the window now! Not bigger but bloody useful - and he a just dropped his value with this! Nice job.


35 million?! You have a laugh?!


 

 

25 Apr 2013 00:09:58
I don't know about you guys. But I won't allow suarez to walk alone.
Did he see red mist-yes. is he a fool-yes. has he disgraced himself-yes. is he a liability-yes
However
Is he truely sorry-yes. does he regret his actions-yes. has he been fined and disciplined enough-yes.

I will not go along with the toil of a man whos passion for lfc is above even mine. a man who has given me extreme excitement in the dismal years of the last few season. the man who gives 150% week in week out, playing every single game. the man who cried in the dressing room after being nocked out the europa.

Dont any of you dare tell me youve never made yourself look a tit on a football pitch, whether you shouted or argued with a ref, to throwing in a late tackle on an opponent winding you up. Passion boils over, I've felt it first hand, as most of you have. suarez has to much passion for his own good.

Luis, you give us fans hope, despite what happens come the summer, you will go down as one of the greatest ever players to wear the red.
Ill walk with you, as no one should walk alone.


Far cry from arguing with a ref or a late tackle to biting an opponent (or even more ridiculous- two!) though.

Sorry, but I'm not buying the 'passion' bit and I don't think he regrets anything honestly. If he did, he would knock it off and certainly wouldn't have done the same thing yet again. For me, I really do think he did this intentionally for reasons known to him. If it were some sort of angry/passionate thing, he would have proceeded to tussle with Ivanovic on the ground. Instead, he walked away like nothing had happened and proceeded to play out the rest of the game. Alternatively, I suppose he's just straight up nutty but he doesn't strike me as that.


He can say he is sorry over and over again but the fact is we need our footballers to be on the pitch and not miss 8 plus games a season, we are already looking at being with out him for 6 games at the start of next season just when you want to get off to a good start you have to plan with out him. I love his footballing talents its so sad. red mick tag


The trouble is Benny you could do all that supporting and then discover he wants out anyway. I was always convinced he would leave this summer anyway so I really am in favour of a sale on the clubs terms. If we say no-one is bigger than the club we have to be true to that. Facts are even with him we have not moved in terms of league position. Sturridge & Coutinho will take up 2 of the attacking positions so we would need to use the money generated to buy 2/3 attack minded players who between them can contribute 30 goals. I wouldn't panic that those players don't exist. They do. Can we attract them to Anfield? Sure. We remain an iconic club in world football in the richest, most high-profile league in the world. The world won't end when LS goes and we won't get relegated.


25 Apr 2013 10:29:10
The world won't end when LS goes and we won't get relegated.

Dropping out of CL and being in the 8th position from past 3 years is as good as relegation for the biggest club Liverpool.


25 Apr 2013 10:27:54
He can say he is sorry over and over again but the fact is we need our footballers to be on the pitch and not miss 8 plus games a season,

he would still score 10 times more than sturridge and caroll with the remaining games.
some player needs chance to score goals.

luis suaerz can score a hatrrick whenever he wishes against any team home or away.

he is that brilliant when he plays simple.


He's so sorry and remorseful that when he realised he was in trouble he started to fein injury, hopping around like a little girl. Then he smiled at Ivanovic and played on as if nothing happened. Oh and of course this is not the 1st time he's done it!

He made an apology which obviously he would have been told to do by some PR advisor.

Where do you see signs of him being truly sorry?


 

 

24 Apr 2013 21:38:01
Hi Eds, just wondered what you thought of the fact of playing Martin Kelly as our CB alongside Agger next season? And just want to see your overall opinion on Kelly as a player and whether you feel he's good enough for us? maybe give us an insight into the positives and negatives of the player as its been a while since I last saw him play. Thanks George {Ed001's Note - I think Kelly is an excellent player, who would be much better suited to playing alongside Agger than any other player currently at the club. For starters, the lad has great pace, which would allow our backline to start much higher up the pitch, allowing us to press higher and attack from further forward. He is tall, good in the air, very good on the ball as well, though his crossing is not really good enough, he is very capable of bringing the ball out from the defensive line, as Agger does, but with more pace, which makes it more difficult to stop. The main negative he has, is that he seems to be a fragile lad, picking up a few niggles, which have affected him and stopped him nailing down his place in the side. He does seem to lack strength as well, which is not really that bad, he has the pace to get in front of players and take the ball that way.}


 

 

 
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