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24 May 2015 23:54:36
Leaving that it's Stephen Gerrards last game for the club to one side!! I feel it needed a result like this to shake the club into action!!something has not felt right at the club all season!!Now only those inside the club know exactly what that is but!! I feel this really could be the making or breaking of us this summer!!please let us hope the owners get it right one way or another!!!
24 May 2015 23:46:43
What a day
To see Gerrard off like this has been a real big shame but to be fair this result has been coming, you can not play players regularly out of position and expect to get results it's just not going to happen
We look in a real mess and for sure the manager looks gone I just don't see a way out now
Do who comes in? Rafa, the fans are seemingly 50/50 Ancelotti? Klopp? Can we seriously afford them or give them the right funds?, Koeman? What after one above average season?, de boer? Unproven, Simeone? No chance, I just don't know but proven with experience has to be first and foremost and I serioudly hope the owners are taking a long hard look at things after they result because we need a shake up and fast, oh and for anyone saying we have all these fantastic youth players fine we might have a few but we won't be moving upwards with unproven anything we need names with talent who are experienced in being winners and we need them now, sad sad day
25 May 2015 04:14:19
yes a new manager will need funds but it needn't be a huge amount. if they give the players that have been bought a chance and look to the academy we will only need around 3 players in ( more depending on how many are shown the door) what we need is for someone to play them to their strengths and get the team organised again. how BR has managed to continuously use so many players out of position and not realise this is half the cause of our issues is beyond me.
25 May 2015 07:23:25
Ideally I would like us to get someone with Carlo Ancelotti's proven experience of winning trophies, and Jurgen Klopp's energy & charisma. So, I hope our new manager is Ancekloppi!
25 May 2015 07:48:46
Do you remember the last time FSG were looking for a new manager?
Ancellotti?
Klopp?
Try Martinez and Rodgers battling it out.
{Ed001's Note - do you not think they would have learnt from that? I really hope they would have learnt an important lesson, you only appoint a novice if it is from within.}
24 May 2015 23:36:06
less points than Moyes.
Brendan Rodgers football genius
25 May 2015 01:19:07
Well actually 'spb' you'll find it was actually more points than moyes :)
25 May 2015 07:15:08
spb mathematical genius
24 May 2015 23:21:37
Get Rodgers out, new manager ASAP, that would be the best summer transfer.
Houillier and Benitez had 5 years each. 3 of Rodgers is enough
25 May 2015 03:51:31
They won trophies which buys you time. BR is aweful and still thinks he deserves more time. For what? To be come more aweful? Deluded human being!
24 May 2015 23:05:56
Hi Eds,
Firstly, thank you for all of your efforts throughout the season, I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say that your work is appreciated!
My question is trivial and not particularly important, but if you could answer it, I'd be much obliged! You've mentioned a few of the players that BR has had a difficult relationship with (i.e. Agger, Gerrard, Maxi etc), I was just wondering, how was his relationship with Luis Suarez? On the one hand, Suarez wasn't shy in making his desire to leave known, but it's undeniable that his performances went up a notch under Rodgers.
Like I said, it's not really important, but I'd be interested to know. Thanks in advance!
YNWA
{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware they got on fine as people, though Suarez, in regards to his work on the training ground and pitch, is very easy to manage. He is completely focused on his game and working hard. You only have to look at how Messi handed him the central spot in the team (as in centre of the pitch) due to watching him work in training and on the pitch. If it wasn't for the moments of complete lunacy, and the fact he was desperate to leave, he would have been dead easy to manage. We will never know whether the performances were the result of Rodgers' or just happened to coincide with Rodgers' time in charge.}
25 May 2015 01:22:21
Messi pick the team now?
And how hard is it to actually give Brendan some credit, suarez was here for 18 months before Brendan.and did sod all. If I remember people would say "he works hard but doesn't score enough. "
{Ed001's Note - did sod all? You really believe that? He missed a lot of chances, but he did some amazing things even before having that fantastic season. His problem was that he was trying too hard to create for himself and score, rather than looking to pass when there was a better option. Amazing how Brendan has rewritten history to suddenly making out Suarez was useless before he arrived.
As for Messi, you are clearly clueless, or you would know he even picked the previous manager to Enrique, let alone the team.}
25 May 2015 03:55:22
A bit of both, in my view. He should get the credit for making Suarez what he is today. Always had the talent but BR provided that platform for him to flourish
24 May 2015 22:41:34
Worst Liverpool performance ever? Can anyone name anything as bad as today? Gutted for Gerrard, he deserved better.
24 May 2015 23:15:26
The day BR was appointed?
24 May 2015 23:27:28
Don't worry Stephen. You will have a great life in California !
God bless you for everything you have done for our club.
A great shame you never got a Premiership medal.
There will be better things for you in the future !
Please don't look down. You are well loved and rightly so.
A great man and a great player.
Perhaps the next couple of years may prove a challenge, but you will come back again.
There will never be another Stevie G.
Things change in life. We will see you again.
You ARE Liverpool !
24 May 2015 23:42:15
Some of the performances under Hodgeson were worse, sure today was awful and Rodgers isn't good enough by any stretch of the imagination try as he might under Hodgson we were unbelievably negative.
The scoreline might have been worse today but I felt much worse watching Liverpool under Hodgson than any point under Rodgers reign and that's saying something.
{Ed001's Note - I disagree on that. This one performance was worse, though overall Hodgson's era was worse.}
25 May 2015 00:41:22
Hodgsons defeat to Northampton Town was pretty bad. Defeat to Oldham in FA cup?
25 May 2015 05:15:43
This performance is easily the worst I have seen. Team selection, tactics and overall performance were abysmal. We have Rodgers to thank for that garbage. Rodgers will forever be remembered - unfortunately not for anything good.
25 May 2015 06:31:12
Hodgons last game in charge at Anfield was the direst. The only highlight was a swearing fan being escorted from the stands and the crowd clapping him. The rest of the time there was nothing, absolutely nothing, to applaud. At least the legend that is SG scored yesterday.
25 May 2015 08:41:54
The first half was the single most worst half of football I have ever seen by an LFC team.
25 May 2015 09:09:14
ed001,was Hodgeson at Liverpool long enough for an ''Era''
{Ed001's Note - maybe not, but it felt like he was there for centuries!}
24 May 2015 22:40:18
Where are we now?
At our current level we are where we are.
Southampton, a Club threatened closure a short while ago, are our match on the pitch and have a better youth policy.
Crystal Palace, Stoke, Swansea, Hull, Tottenham etc. etc. have all got enough to beat us.
Where are we? Mid-table and dropping!!
Eleven defeats and barely a goal a game is pretty average.
A goal-difference of plus-four is pathetic!!!
I'm not a managerial genius with a certificate and shiny teeth but I reckon we could do worse than getting a striker and a defensive midfielder. Just saying!
24 May 2015 23:31:30
the thing is you have strikers yet play 2 am up front?
surley u play a ST in that posision before anyone else regardless
25 May 2015 05:18:25
Pete, Everton are mid-table and dropping. We are what I would classify as "clinging to Europe".
Either way, it is sad to see.
spb - I know, I actually felt like we were playing with 10 men as we didn't have a forward ahead of the midfield! Bizzare!
24 May 2015 22:38:57
Does anybody know when the end of season review with rodgers is exactly? I would imagine it would be pretty soon?
24 May 2015 23:25:42
End of the season, as I understand it. Shouldn't take look should it really.
25 May 2015 00:07:56
Do they need a review. I mean really?
25 May 2015 04:01:17
Per Ed01, the decision to let him go has already been made and today only confirmed what they already knew. The review has been done and BR is gone and good riddance.
24 May 2015 22:36:21
farewell Stevie. thanks for the memories. gutted it had to end like it has! Thank you Brendan Rodgers! can only describe what I see and you my friend have the team in terminal decline! no clue whatsoever see mings sahko and skrtl only none midfielders in red? wtf if your not sacked resign you will go done in history as the man to break the club! the anti Shankly hope the media report on your meaness regards your maintenance payments see how you like it being ridiculed!!!
24 May 2015 22:27:41
Hi ed(s)
magic wond time.
what would be your ideal summer for the club?
Awesome job as always. Not quite sure how you do it!
Thanks
tom
{Ed001's Note - my ideal summer would be bringing in Monchi as DoF and Klopp as manager. Then letting those two find the right players and system to win.}
24 May 2015 23:09:28
I don't know of Monchi so can't say anything there.
Agree with Klopp no better time to attain a higher calibre manager with him not attached to any club. We surely must have shown some level of interest by now?
Players wise for me and I'm not going to name all I claim to think or know would be coming, but surely Konoplyanka on a free ticks all the boxes? Similarly with Montoya of Barca if available at 8 million I hope the deal is done already.
I know there will be more new players but these two sit right with me as good buys along with Klopp as manager.
{Ed001's Note - not sure why we need either of those two? Particularly the entirely average Montoya, we already have one right back on loan that isn't good enough, better to not buy another one.}
24 May 2015 23:18:25
What's are the chances of getting one out of two ED01 ?
{Ed001's Note - we never go for the people I want us to go for, so it is probably 0%.}
24 May 2015 23:34:31
Gotta break that superstitious duck, Ed! Be bold, make a prediction on one player and manager and watch as the stars finally align for you! You have insider info, you know more than you let on here - I think you just fear putting it into words will jinx it. Be bold!!!
{Ed001's Note - to be honest Monchi is a problem because of the way we messed Sevilla about during the Moreno transfer, he was very unhappy with Liverpool's attitude. I know there has been an attempt to rebuild bridges between him and the club, which I am hoping are aimed at more than just an improved relationship with Sevilla, but I am not going to hold my breath in case I am just getting carried away with wishful thinking.
As for Klopp, as much as I want him to take the job, I really don't think we are going to go for him, we would already be on our knees begging him to take the role if the club really wanted him. I hope that FSG will go for him, but if not Unai Emery would be good, or I would happily accept Ed002's suggestion of Schmidt.
Player I would go for would be Begovic. For me a keeper is priority number one right now. The defence is shambolic, completely bereft of confidence and a good keeper gives them confidence. Mignolet is just not a good keeper and could have done much better on a couple of their goals today. I can't remember him ever making a save I would not expect him to make. Can anyone ever remember a time Migs made a save that made them wonder how on earth he stopped that? Those are the saves top keepers make.}
25 May 2015 00:44:23
Begovic is off to Man Utd when De Gea goes to Madrid. Besides, he wouldn't leave Stoke for a team not in Champs league.
25 May 2015 01:08:54
Ed, you said if we really wanted Klopp we would already be on our knees begging him, but wouldn't that be really unprofessional to do that whilst we still have a manager? Surely they would save the begging, and compliments, and special gifts for once Brendan has been sacked, If he even is sacked? Emery would be my choice anyway, probably slightly more likely too, although we will probably end up with Ian Holloway
{Ed001's Note - luckily Holloway is likely to return to Blackpool, so he will be out. If we really wanted Klopp we would have sacked Rodgers already.}
25 May 2015 01:58:33
Hate to say it but, after yesterday's performance, why would he leave Stoke for Liverpool?
25 May 2015 07:23:58
Ed001, I have to agree with you, i'd be happy with one of Klopp, Emery or Schmidt as Ed002 has suggested. I would think it unlikely he would give up CL football to come here, Emery himself may have CL football also if Sevilla win the EL. We don't seem to have made any move for Klopp, so I just wonder where that leaves us manager wise. Ancelotti maybe if Rafa ends up at Madrid, but heard that Ancelotti wants to take a year off. Bielsa would be the only other one I could think of atm.
{Ed001's Note - Ancelotti may yet end up at City, I would not expect him to join us that is for sure. Bielsa's English is very poor, which makes him unlikely.}
25 May 2015 07:25:38
Ed001, forgot to add, What's Martin O'Neill up to? Looks like we need a mid table manager at the moment.
{Ed001's Note - please no!! He is with the Republic of Ireland right now, so that would rule him out thankfully.}
25 May 2015 09:10:48
Haha sorry Ed001, wasn't serious about O'Neill, just trying to make light out of our situation. So hard to convey a tone of sarcastic humour.
{Ed001's Note - I guessed that don't worry, I didn't think anyone who wanted a failed average manager would need to look any further than keeping hold of Brendan.}
25 May 2015 09:26:36
I disagree a little Ed.
I've said on here before. Begovic has made a lot of mistakes in goal the last few seasons. Whether he needs a new challenge I don't know,but I think people are too enamoured remembering his performances from 2/3 seasons ago,I don't think he's come close to that level again,and he's made a lot of howlers himself.
I can also think of a fair few saves migs has done where I've thought how's he stopped that(Chelsea carling cupis a prime example). He's kept us in a fair few matches this year,where we've been hammered. Particularly Southampton springs to mind,also even though we actually got beaten some of his saves vs Palace etc. I just think the media including highlight teams on the BBC latch onto keepers suffering poor form,and show their wrongs,and if some one has started well they show their highlight reels.
For me I think we need to get in a striker more importantly that's proven,get rid of Aspas,Balo,Borini,possibly Lambert,have Origi,sinclair,Sturridge and the purchase.
I think having Wisdom at Right back and Lovren/Toure/Ilori/Sakho as centrebacks will see an improvement in Migs and the defenses performance.(As you know may I hate Skrtel )
{Ed001's Note - I don't watch highlight reels, so no idea why you mention them? Do you have a chip on your shoulder about the media and blame them for the fact our keeper is crap? Because that is what he is. No highlight reels are being produced to show him miskicking the ball into the stands every time he kicks, yet you are trying to suggest it is highlight reels making him look bad. He is not good enough, that is why he looks bad. Not one of those saves you mentioned were special, sorry but that is just simply not true. Numerous times he has let in shots he should have saved, 3 last week, a couple this week, he is simply not a good keeper.
As for Begovic, he has had a few injuries, but when fit he has played well, as he did yesterday. He can also distribute the ball, something Migs has never been able to do. Half the time it is difficult to know if he has even seen a football before in his life, let alone kicked one!}
25 May 2015 14:37:20
There's no Chip at all ed001: Just saying post match analysis and such loves to heap praise on when things are going well,and kick people when things aren't going right and often very contradictory.
I agree with some points on Migs,I said before we signed him he couldn't kick and wouldn't suit playing out the back. I think insinuating a football is somehow foreign to him at times,does him a disservice and is hyperbolic.(from your last sentence.)
If the past 3 seasons all of Begovic's mistakes can be put down to injury so be it,bt the man's played 70+ games injured? Sorry ed,but when I've watched him he's been average,and let in some soft goals from shots well outside his area.
I guess we will disagree on the efforts Migs has made save wise. I just threw those out as a few examples of saves I thought Kept us in matches,that not a great many keepers would do.
{Ed002's Note - I suspect you are reading rather too much in to certain aspects of the media.
Begovic may well move soon with Inter, Real Madrid and Chelsea showing some interest. Manchester United and Arsenal have enquired as to his availability with his agent but have not taken it further. Borussia Monchengladbach has moved on.}
24 May 2015 22:23:56
Desperate times at Liverpool FC. In all my years as a fan of our great club I have never seen such capitulation from 11 men wearing the famous Red kit with the Liver Bird on their chests. They should hang their heads in shame. I`ll get onto Rodgers in while but when you walk over that white line its you versus your opponent and forget ability and skill you have to WANT to be a winner. That was shameful, disgusting and oh so very, very weak. I`m sorry to say that bar 2 or 3 players its in their DNA. Weakness and the inability to dig in when things get tough. As a professional footballer you have to win the battle first to win the right to play. We don't have the individuals let alone the collective mentality to do that. I have never in my life time and have supported and played for this great club since the age of 3 so that's 51 years seen anything like that today and i'm not ashamed to say it made me feel tearful, dejected and so, so sorry for are magnificent away support who travelled to watch that horror show today. Pathetic absolutely pathetic. The players should all put a thousand pounds of their wages into a pot and pay all those who travelled their money back. Will they, of course not, professional footballers are made of different building blocks from when I played here and abroad. Its lost on some of these mercenaries what performances like this do and mean to fans all around the world. As for Mr Rodgers taxi please time is up I`m afraid. I looked at that side today with no recognised strikers against a side full of energy and intent and honestly thought oh **** were going to get are arses kicked here. I said at 2.30 to my daughter and Red fanatic Gabrielle this will end in tears 6-0, nearly right. What was he thinking? what was the plan ? what did he say when he first arrived total football, don't make me laugh or cry not sure which right now. I have managed a football club in a National League in New Zealand, not Premier League standard by any means but when you lose the players its time to hold your hands up and pack your bags. It happened to me in the end not a nice feeling by any means but that's football and in the end its down to you as a manager the buck stops and all that. This football club is far to big for some players and managers its too big a job for Brendan I`m afraid and please God Mr Henry and co must realise this now. It won't happen tomorrow I would be very surprised its not usually they work but they must make the decision and look for a replacement within the next month. How many players were played out of position today. Stevie Gerard my God how he deserved not to be associated with that nightmare for his last game for the club he loves so much I think that hurts the most. Where do we go from here? Wow massive next few months coming up and the clubs owners need to either go all in and get us a manager who is used to working with quality and world class plus backing in the transfer window or I hate to say Gary the rat Neville could be right. No matter what I will always support our club and always be immensely proud to do so. This has to go down as one of the darkest days in LFCs history. One that should never be forgotten and lessons to be learnt for the future. Who next? For me only 3 in the running Rafa, Klopp or ancholotti. Lots of experience born winners and can all attract quality players. No more so called young up and coming British managers. Sorry but none good enough at the moment. Its one thing to gain your coaching badges its another to take over one of the top 10 biggest clubs in the world. Would apple give the CEOs job to a bright up and coming teenager no they wouldn't. Anyway WTF am, I talking about now just getting carried away because I feel so angry, letdown and a little scared after that today so come on John Henry let's see what type of man you are, a winner? YNWA
24 May 2015 23:09:40
Every cloud has a silver lining mate. LFC have something huge to live up to. That I feel is one of our biggest problems. Perhaps it was those same 11 men that cause the final downfall of BR. Perhaps it was the dressing room speaking?
Keep the faith
24 May 2015 23:30:32
There is no excuse for that but just to put it into perspective the setup of the side and the team put out there had a massive impact on that result - Can played out of position yet again, Moreno clearly weak in defence, Lucas on the brink of moving, Allen clearly not up to standard, Gerard is a legend but in decline, and no forwards played at all. not to mention I agree the dressing room has no faith or willpower to play for BR.
If we bring in Milner and a couple of other top players and change coach, it could be a very different story very very quickly, if there's a silver lining, it's that it's clear the season ended in massive decline and BR can't hide behind anything at all in the review.
24 May 2015 22:19:16
eds is mike Bernard a reliable soure ex fsg lawyer. james pearce wrighting even more now. I think it may even happen this evening or tomoz the sacking certinaly more stuff being said then ususal
{Ed001's Note - I have no idea who Mike Bernard is sorry.}
25 May 2015 00:46:05
Mike Bernard is a fraud on twitter trying as usual, like others on there to be in the know. They all know nothing, hence when I've asked ed2 about some of the info these so called people claim are true, the answer is twitter again?.
24 May 2015 21:48:40
edo1 I think when james pearce of the echo is saying his job is hanging by a thread then this is a good sign he will be sacked because don't the echo wright what Liverpool want them to? and even rodger was nearly crying in interview and saying if they want me to go I will hears hoping hearing he is having ameting with gordon tonigt
{Ed001's Note - Pearce is certainly being fed by someone within the club, I actually thought it was Rodgers to be honest. Obviously not if he is saying that.}
24 May 2015 22:13:35
I imagine even Pearce has seen the writing on the wall and correctly ascertained the situation. Took him a while .
24 May 2015 22:18:32
I doubt anything will happen tonight. I imagine the owners are aware of how unhappy the supporters are, particularly after today. Hopefully Rodgers will be relieved of his job by the end of the week. We can then find the right man for the job, hopefully Klopp or De Boer.
24 May 2015 22:45:06
Tbh I don't think anything will happen until the owners have got somebody lined up ready for the job
24 May 2015 22:50:27
I know he's more than likely out of reach, but I think we need a wise head who commands a lot of respect in the game at the moment, unfortunately, the the most outstanding candidate is Ancelotti, who if sacked by Real will reportedly take a year out.
{Ed001's Note - or go to City?}
24 May 2015 22:52:09
What happened today did nothing but confirm what the owners already knew about BR's future. Their decision has certainly been made and if it was to sack him, today's debacle would only give them more credibility in the media when they do sack him
24 May 2015 23:19:08
Eds I know everyone has their hearts set on Klopp but do you think he is honestly within our reach? Also do you think Frank de Boer, Ronald Koeman, Paulo Sousa, Roberto di Matteo or Lucian Favre could be viable choices?
{Ed001's Note - I honestly don't see why he couldn't be within reach, unless he intends to take a year out. There are not many jobs around right now, those that are bigger would not afford him the time. Maybe if Wenger does decide to retire, as he was close to doing last season early on, then Klopp might want to take on the reins there. Arsenal are a much more stable club than us with a bigger potential budget.}
24 May 2015 23:31:33
And what if their decision is not to sack him Redohio? Do Fsg feel the wrath? Fsg, unlike the fans don't do knee jerk reactions remember? If they decide he stays does he get our full support? I ask you because you have been banging the drum the loudest over the last few months.
24 May 2015 23:43:08
Do good managers not have the balls to take on a poisoned chalice? Do they need to go to a club where things are much more rosy? Surely you want to test exactly how good you are instead of opting for easy/easier street?
{Ed001's Note - why would it be balls to take on a poisoned chalice? A good manager knows when a job is untenable. It is not about being on easy street, it is about going where you can actually achieve something. Liverpool have not hit rock bottom, but they are on a downward spiral which needs arresting. Does that sound like the kind of job you would take on? It is a bit like having a bunch of job offers, one is from a company that could be huge if you can turn it around, but it is really struggling and could just as easily fold. You would have to be very certain there is something there to take on that kind of job, as it could destroy your whole future career if you misjudge.}
24 May 2015 23:45:35
Pearce's latest surprised me. Calling BR's use of Can 'bizarre', the game 'spineless capitulation that often leads to P45s', this 'made that bleak night at Ewood Park in January 2011 look like a masterclass' and 'Rodgers now finds himself clinging to his job' as some of the choice quotes.
I figure if Pearce has turned on you, then you might just about be done.
25 May 2015 00:18:08
Well personally ed i don't think we will drop much further than where we are. I have also read numerous times, possibly even from your good self that our squad isn't actually that bad. 5th biggest payers in the league, plenty of talented youngsters etc. We are just massive under achievers and have been for 20 plus years. that's why i called it a poisined chalice.
25 May 2015 00:50:03
If you want to know what kind of clubs too managers go to, just take a look around.
Who has Ancellotti managed?
Who has Mourinho managed?
Managers live off their reputation. Why would they take on a dysfunctional club like Liverpool where you can't keep hold of your best players, some faceless committee chooses your transfer targets and fans fly banners across the stadium asking for you to be sacked? On top of that, 12 months after the best title challenge for 25 years you're on the verge of the sack.
Oh yes, forget Man City with limitless funds and world class players with incredible infrastructure, I want to test myself.
Yeah right.
25 May 2015 00:51:04
Plus Klopp has turned us down once before.
25 May 2015 04:18:49
You can dream all you want, Irish but unlike you who lives on planet coocoo, I live on planet earth and over here with us earthlings, we have said for months that BR was out of the depth and that he would be sacked and that the decision to sack him would have already been made so I always knew the knee jerk reactions would never come from the owners and I was fine with that. The past several weeks, we have become worse with every game and today was the last straw so not too surprised we lost bar of course the scoreline because unlike you, I know a failure when I see one. Ed also said that decision had already been made to sack him per his opinion so if that happens, many of us including me banging the drums as you pointlessly mentioned as if I was the only one doing it, would have been proven right.
24 May 2015 21:47:32
Hi eds, I'm sure this is going to be a testing few months for yourselves, but I just had a thought maybe you could answer. This maybe completely irrelevant but do you think that maybe the sterling meeting could've been put on hold so the end of year review could take place first? Just thinking that if possibly we do have a change of manager this could affect the outcome of the sterling situation. Or am I just talking nonsense and one thing has nothing to do with the other?
Cheers eds
{Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware Sterling's contract meeting was nothing to do with Rodgers anyway. This was more the club letting the dust settle after all the public bickering.}
24 May 2015 22:53:33
Good to see they are working on repairing damaged bridges. Hopefully a change of manager, can change the dimension of the saga
24 May 2015 21:43:21
Not really banter and not sure if you're aware of it but there's an advert for the Irish sun newspaper on the site.
I appreciate every site needs it income, was just wondering if you were aware of it!
{Ed001's Note - no the ads are different depending on the user. We are trying to get more control over which show up, it is either that or we will be changing ad servers. So, if you could help us out when you see an ad like that by rightclicking on it and copying the url and sending it to us either through here or the contact form. I will either get them removed from our sites or we will change ad servers to someone who will allow us to block ads like that. I do need the URL to tell them which ones we don't wish to have though.}
24 May 2015 21:51:38
It's not there at the moment which means it might have been a once off or them drinks I had earlier were a lot stronger than I thought they were!
Either way I'll keep an eye out and pass it on if I can!
{Ed002's Note - The trick is to stop Googling "Purple nippled exhaust queen seeks similar".}
24 May 2015 22:01:55
When I first joined this site I thought it was coincidence that things I'd googled appeared in the ads because I thought we all got the same adds :-)
Its amazing just hoe stupid I can be at times :-)
24 May 2015 22:13:25
The thing is I never go onto their site so not sure why that would show up?!
The fact I have an interest in purple nippled exhaust queens is irreverent!!
25 May 2015 08:25:44
I downloaded adblocker and adblocker plus. I do not get any adverts on this site
{Ed001's Note - Irish it will be simply because of where you are from, Google takes note of that kind of thing too.}
24 May 2015 21:36:03
Eds fellow reds, I been working all day .can someone tell me what the hell went on today .taking nothing away from Stoke but that is an appalling result if you 2/3 down in first half surely you tighten up at the back .i thought Rodger was a clever manager .i can't recall a defeat like that .imo he has no excuse he has to go clueless that hull and Stoke beating / hammering us if BR still in charge next term we will be in a religation fight .last question do we now have to play a qualifier for Europa league now ? Thanks to all the EDS for another top season on here take a well earnt rest and will catch up in August cheers eds your great, and to all fellow reds who read and reply to my posts and all the other post have a great summer fellow reds and eds .
{Ed001's Note - rest? The summer is the busiest time for us on here mate, by the close of the transfer window I will be a gibbering wreck. Well, even more of a gibbering wreck than I normally am.}
24 May 2015 21:45:51
It's true, he really is a gibbering wreck. Still doesn't excuse the crocs with socks look Ed2 told me Ed1 loves to rock.
{Ed001's Note - nothing wrong with crocs and socks, I think. Not actually sure what that is to be honest. I am assuming it is some kind of fashion thing?}
24 May 2015 22:07:16
Well Ed, I like the way you rock out with your crock out;)
24 May 2015 22:18:25
We had a very good second half - they only scored once.
24 May 2015 22:18:45
They're a kind of sandle/shoe with holes all over them. The holes allow what's left of your dignity to leak out
24 May 2015 21:29:03
Been In hospital all day but just heard the score.
It's either Rogers has had enough and feels it's time to go or he's lost the dressing room . Either way it's time to be decisive.
Back him and act quickly to get players in and out or
Get rid and get who you want in immediately and either get dof or let the manager sign his players and judge him on that.
But act now
By the way dads a blue nose and score cheered him up after major surgery
24 May 2015 22:57:32
He ain't getting backed mate especially since his job has been on the line since day one of the season with the several promises has broken and this debacle, only confirms what the owners may already have decided to do with him. He has embarrassed our club for the last time, IMO and should not let the door hit him on the way out.
24 May 2015 21:25:31
What a fantastic day to move house. If I had watched that I'm not sure many of my plates and glasses would have made it.
Anybody know where I can buy a life size Brendan Rodgers cut out and a lighter, rent a light aircraft and buy a big can of spray paint to write some abuse on the side of the stadium? (That ones for you ed002, chin up it's going to be a long summer)
24 May 2015 22:58:37
Not worth your time, tbh.
24 May 2015 21:20:21
Hi guys a few questions to ask if I may.
- How likely is it Rodgers will be shown the exit door at Liverpool? He's terrible, he's put Liverpool far too behind and needs to go. Do you think the owners will get rid?
- Who apart from Johnson and Gerrard are likely to be leaving?
- Is there any players currently wanting to join Liverpool in the summer, I know Champions league football attracts the best players so with Liverpool not getting that, its quite worrying.
The current squad I think are decent enough to be up there but need a proven goalscorer or 2. Sturridge can't be relied on, Origi looks promising but I'd like to see a Costa, Aguero, Cavani type of player come in. Any chance of such a thing?
Thanks
24 May 2015 22:15:37
He's gone mate, finito
24 May 2015 22:28:12
With any luck
24 May 2015 22:58:22
1) Very likely I hope.
2) Jones contract is up and he's going afaik. Toure's contract is up, but Ed002 has suggested he may be offered a new one. Sterling and Illori are both looking for a way out and it's hard to see a u-turn from either. Aspas has said he intends joining Sevilla permanently. Lucas isn't happy, but that might change with a new manager. The club will likely try to move Balotelli on. I cannot imagine Coates, Enrique, Borini and Alberto have a future here. Anyone else will probably depend on the new manager, if as I hope we get one.
3) No idea.
{Ed001's Note - Sterling and Ilori might also both stay when/if the manager is changed. Though it may now be too late to fix things with Sterling.}
24 May 2015 22:59:56
He's been gone, IMO. Today just confirmed it.
25 May 2015 07:39:43
Thanks for the post mate.
Yes Ed001 I agree I think the damage is done with Sterling, I don't think any manager will convince him otherwise either.
I think he wants out and that's that no messing, once his minds on it I doubt it'll change.
Same happened with Suarez, kept him a year then he did what he previously wanted to do. and left.
Its really frustrating me we can't keep our best players, Liverpool are bigger then that. Rodgers doesn't have a scooby doo and he's getting on my nerves.
I must admit I was one of the ones to have faith in him I thought he was the next big thing - I was wrong.
These yanks need to sort it out and sort it out big time. I want to see Liverpool where they should be, challenging for titles/cups but it seems like we are years off and that's a depressing thought for a Monday morning.
I look at teams like Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal etc and whether we like it or not they're fantastic teams with fantastic players and most importantly good managers - we have a mediocre team who could be a challenging team with the right manager.
Gutted! fingers crossed some magic happens soon.
24 May 2015 21:14:29
Eds
How long term do you think FSG will be in for. Given that the central plank of their strategy was based on the Fair Play regs which are being relaxed. What do you consider the aim would be and when would they realistically look to a profit and for a return on their investment or would the want to build up and sell.
{Ed001's Note - I think that will depend on the results of the review and if they get concrete interest from someone who is willing to buy the club. My personal opinion is that they are fast realising it is going to be more difficult to achieve their aims with us than they thought.}
24 May 2015 22:15:09
Yeah and it is going to take a longer if they keep FSG'ing up.
-Hodgson buying players fit for a team in 2005.(i'm still pretty sure he wanted to make us a solid mid table team).
-Kenny/Comolli signing the most dull group of players for premium prices. (I'd give them Suarez but we know Suarez wasn't them).
-Getting a manager who has nil experience with spending more than 4m on a player. (the other flaws of the manager such as mismanagement of players falls on BR not FSG).
-AND what I like to call the 'transfer committee incident' (this is still ongoing, but would/should be abolished with a new manager who has experience in the market).
24 May 2015 22:16:46
I think the danger for us is that FSG decide to sell now and let us drift for a while . Hoping that doesn't happen
{Ed002's Note - They will have an exit plan but will not want to be selling right now.}
24 May 2015 22:25:32
Personally I think they have realised that the Prem is a big boys game and to get into and remain in the top four is going to cost an absolute fortune and that without world class players you have little to no chance of getting there and without being there little to no chance of attracting them in the first place.
I reckon if some sugar daddy came along with an offer they'd snap his arm off. I don't see them owning the club for more than another three seasons or so.
24 May 2015 21:08:45
Long time reader of this site, first time poster. Must have checked it everyday or so for two years. Always loved hearing the insight of the eds. Although I may have not always agreed it really is great to get a good and honest insight into the running and goings on of a football club. Just wanted to say thanks to the eds for their hard work and long may it continue.
Cheers
{Ed001's Note - thank you mate and good to have you post. Hopefully we will get to hear more from you, even when it is not so glowing about us!}
24 May 2015 21:07:52
I think we need to stop talking about which players need to be bought and concentrate on a new manager first, if the club really want Kopp they should offer him a huge salary that he can't say no to. Then if he signs let him decide on who stays and who goes and then look to how much money he has for transfers and who he wants.
24 May 2015 21:20:00
I'm not sure he's motivated by money, but he would have to be paid the going rate still. (Lots)
I would be looking to sack Rodgers tonight myself, no point in waiting now. Sounds harsh and I do like the man but he's got to go now to give the new manager a chance to sort sterling out (if it's a manager issue) and to look at the team and see who needs shipping out/bringing in.
24 May 2015 23:07:18
All our energy should be focused on a new manager come in, with immediate effect. BR has embarrassed us for the last time and calling for his sack is not harsh at all.
24 May 2015 20:46:53
Hi ed01 I notice a sense of hopelessness from your replies today saying nobody would want the job. I have to ask considering rogers position has been up for discussion as early as last November and changes coming above br as well according to the eds. Surely with so long reviewing and taking advice now it should be straight forward for the club to now implement what they want to do across the board. If they have not a plan on the changes to make at this stage then we are well and truly sunk. The only name which we had heard the club had considered was de boer surely there are some others in there thinking. Thought please ed
{Ed001's Note - should be straight forward and it should be decisive. Sadly there is little sign of decisiveness in the running of the club, otherwise we would not have transfers decided by committee and a review needed to decide on what changes to make. That is a major part of our problem, we don't have one Roman-type figure running the club making decisions.}
24 May 2015 21:08:10
Glad season is over , let's see what happens , I'm gutted but Rogers did give us some good moments let's not forget that, thanks to the eds, it can only get better and thanks to Steve Gerrard , good luck to whoever leaves with him.
24 May 2015 21:13:31
Would agree with that- it's the downside of having an investment group with 21 different investors, none of whom own more than 50%. Near as I can tell, FSG is pretty dysfunctional itself, no headquarters/global office or items of that sort and the overall reporting structure is a bit nebulous with the exception of Henry being top. Gordon seemingly interfaces with Ayre quite a lot, but he also still has his hands in the Red Sox a bit as well, including discussion around whether to sign Moncada, as an example. If there were a single owner I do think things would be run much more efficiently, albeit that wouldn't necessarily mean better.
{Ed001's Note - I do agree that it is a risk, but a benign dictatorship is the most efficient method of control. Sadly dictatorships are mainly malign, see Hull City and Newcastle United and Cardiff City for examples of that.}
25 May 2015 06:40:14
Abramovic is an example of a benign one is he not ed? To a certain extent you could say city too and perhaps Berlusconi in years gone by though he did enjoy taking credit for everything.
{Ed001's Note - for Chelsea Roman certainly has been a benign dictator, Berlusconi at times, and yes Mansour at City so far.}
24 May 2015 20:46:22
Evening guys,
Everyone is feeling a little downbeat right now no doubt, but I want to remind you all that it's not all doom and gloom.
We still have a very good squad.
Hendo did superbly as captain whilst Gerrard was out this season, and is a million miles from the underwhelming overpriced lad that we acquired those years back. Kenny obviously had a good eye for a future talent - who would have thought it!
Sterling, as we all know will probably leave. Whatever we think of the situation, there is nothing any of us can do about it, but no doubt he will bring us in a decent amount of money to buy the striker we have seriously lacked this season. Ibe, in my opinion, is ready to walk into his vacant position. And I mean the one on the wing, not RWB, ST, DM, GK or manager one. ;-)
Moreno, Markovic, Can have all been let down by the manager this season, but there is no doubting their talent if utilised effectively and given game time in their preferred position.
Migs has improved somewhat, athough he could still do with some competition to push him to be the keeper we want him to be. He is still young in keeper terms.
Lovren and Sakho cannot suddenly turn into bad defenders. I don't think many of us were disappointed with either signing.
Coutinho. No words are needed really.
Studge can't be injured forever can he? Hopefully this surgery can ensure he gets more games in future seasons, as surgery has worked for our players in the past, Gerrard, Lucas etc.
We have some excellent youngsters coming through the ranks, as we always have done. The issue has been loaning them out effectively and managing their development. With the right management we could be bringing a few through every season which won't only save us some money, but will also be good for English football.
Although this has created mixed feelings, I'm really happy to be in the Europa League. We all know CL is better, but we haven't been good enough to get that, so who would seriously turn down another chance for silver wear and an alternative route into the CL? Plus we get to watch our beloved team twice a week! Other teams easily manage a top 4 challenge and decent run in Europe, why not us?
Although everyone's down right now, there are managers out there who would want the accolade of bringing the glory days back to Anfield surely? Plenty of managers are moving this year, managers with respect for our club, who have experience of developing academies, European football, and who are willing to take some responsibility where necessary.
I'm not saying next year is our year, just that it will (hopefully) be a new start, and who knows where we will end up. One things for sure though we can't really be much worse than right now can we?
Keep your heads up guys, we could be Newcastle supporters :-)
Cheers
24 May 2015 21:10:43
I disagree on mignolet. He's not that good ,awful off the deck . He reminds me of David James . Henderson imo is limited but tries he's hardest and inspose he's added assists . Mismanagement has battered Moreno can markovic. Sturridge has always been injury prone but can be top notch. We have one top player in coutinho .but all in all lots of sides have "top talent in their ranks . The way some of you go on about the youth is over the top . Everton have won back to back youth titles and stones n Barkley Colman have come through . Southampton have top youths . Chelsea won the youth cup and Utd the league at u21.city have top youth side . Some quotes on these players are way off the mark . Yes they're decent players . But to hedge your bets on this is dreaming .
{Ed001's Note - Coleman was never in Everton's academy, they signed him from Ireland. As for back to back youth titles, that means nothing, clubs like Southampton have large numbers of youngsters in their squad or out on loan, so weakening their youth team. Plus academy development work is not about getting results, judging youth players by the results garnered is a false way to judge them. Giving youth players a chance is why Southampton have such a great youth system.}
24 May 2015 21:22:09
couldnt agree more Eds with the propasal of seeing some of our younger talent get a run
24 May 2015 21:26:20
These clubs have brought through players regardless ed . We did a Colman with sterling and ibe . My point is our young lads I wouldn't say are any better than what's at other clubs. Ibe is superb tho .to say we are in good shape because of the young players there is a bit blinded . We are in bad shape if we are constrained on spending . There's not much there in regards of first team
{Ed001's Note - there is plenty there. Sorry but to suggest we don't have a good team because you don't believe our young lads are better than what is at other clubs is just odd. We have a good team, but it is just being abused and misused by the manager right now. We have numerous right backs, but the manager chooses to play a central midfielder there. We have a great batch of young talent, but none of them are being given a chance to show it, except when it is forced on the manager. Teixeira has a cameo, stars, never seen again. Rossiter plays well in the cup, but yet has to sit around while Joe Allen is playing woefully. It is not that there is anything wrong with the youth, it is that the manager refuses to trust them. The likes of Rossiter were as good as anything we have had at the age of 15 and 16, but, unlike the likes of Gerrard etc, they never got given the chance to show it. That is what is lacking, not the quality of talent.}
24 May 2015 22:02:43
In Mignolets defence, he has improved since last season, and it would take a seriously world class keeper to keep the ball out the net when playing behind a 3 man, constantly changing, disorganised defence with no leader, when the manager has refused to bring in a coach to work with them. Mignolet is no world beater, but it's about time people start to recognise that he is just the last man. The whole team, and particularly the manager, must take responsibility for leaking so many goals.
24 May 2015 22:15:53
Coleman was nearly 20 and had played more than 50 first team games for Sligo Rovers when Everton signed him, he was never in their Academy or U18 team, and he doesn't count as Home Grown. He's no more a product of Everton's youth system than Markovic is a product of ours.
We signed both Sterling & Ibe at 15 with about 5 games between them and they were in our youth side for 2+ seasons before breaking into the first team. Much more of their key development time was spent here than Coleman's was at Everton.
Everton have only produced Barkley & Stones recently. Our Academy and youth team produced or developed Ibe, Wisdom, Flanagan and Sterling, all of whom are capable of playing the PL, Suso, who demonstrated he's capable of playing in La Liga, and we have the likes of McLaughlin, Sinclair & Rossiter who should've been given more of a chance too. We have a good youth system, we need to use it.
24 May 2015 20:42:57
There is only onw address to complaine about from now on - the owners. BR showed us what he can and can't do this season - he said he would go if they ask him to, if he is here next season I don't think anyone can moan about him. It is for the owners now to decide if we start fresh, ideally with Klopp, and by this say this is not good enough or keep on like that and become the joke of the league next year.
If BR stay after the end of this season this is like them saying we want Liverpool to become a mid table team (at best).
24 May 2015 23:12:02
They won't keep him and IMO, were never going to. Today just comforts them in their decision to sack him.
24 May 2015 20:27:47
Cheers Eds for your insight and time this season. Much appreciated. Looking forward to the summer now, U21 tournament and hopefully some positive steps towards improving our beloved Liverpool for next season.
Ta very much.
{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed for a good summer.}
24 May 2015 20:42:57
What in your opinion is a good summer then Ed001?
{Ed001's Note - replacing Rodgers with Klopp or Emery. Appointing Monchi as DoF. Transfers are much less important than the right management team right now.}
24 May 2015 20:56:02
Agreed! I think the set of players that we have at the moment are a very decent bunch and are definitely capable of finishing top 4. with Klopp or any other top manager
{Ed001's Note - that is how I see it too, nothing wrong with the squad, it is just being mismanaged to a degree that even Souness and Hodgson could not achieve. It is hard to believe that any good manager could not get better results over the course of a season with this squad. For starters going 5-0 down by half time and then still not putting a striker on when making two changes is just sheer idiocy. It beggars belief he wasn't handing in his resignation and making a public apology after the match. How he could have the sheer cheek to suggest he has anything to offer the club is beyond me. His arrogance is astounding.}
24 May 2015 21:31:29
Yeah, I must admit, I was behind Rodgers until about a month and half ago but now I can see his complete arrogance with his "150%" comment and his "I am the best man for the job" comment. Both are truelly oozing with arrogance and self-belief. It actually upsets me to see what our club has become this year under this stubborn man whom we call our 'manager'.
24 May 2015 23:16:22
We've always had a good squad that with the right 3/4 additions, would be hard to beat. BR has succeeded in making them worse to the point of even us the fans knowing that he is the reason they are bad. Takes some doing!
24 May 2015 20:21:14
Eds,
What are the obstacles in the way of getting Klopp to manage Liverpool.
Would it be budget, the strength of others in the league or are we simply now seen outside of Liverpool as a club that used to be big but now too big a ship to turn round to get back on track?
Thanks to you all for your constant feedback as it must require an enormous amount of time and patience but it is HUGELY appreciated as I know the info given is spot on and not Twitter rubbish.
{Ed001's Note - structure of the club, budgetary constraints, expectations of the fans, basically everything about the club is seen as a shambles. While he is not looking for a ready made top side to take over, he wants somewhere that he can have a realistic chance of success for the long term.}
24 May 2015 20:44:57
So in your opinion it will be pointless the fans hoping for him and we should lower our expectations?
{Ed001's Note - I would not expect him, we never get anyone I want in to the club, so it is not going to happen, sadly.}
24 May 2015 20:46:41
Ed1, Is Bielsa a realistic candidate to manage us next season?
{Ed001's Note - no, he doesn't speak English. The owners were quite explicit in their desire to have an English speaker last time.}
24 May 2015 20:50:14
Structure of the club? Well surely this was part of the review for the past 8 months which the owners should now be in a position to put right
{Ed001's Note - I have seen little sign of any action though personally, which is worrying.}
24 May 2015 20:51:32
Wouldnt this put lots of managers off then ed? In alladyce we trust then haha
{Ed001's Note - it would very much put lots off. They don't mind taking over a club that is in a down period, but not when it is almost impossible to turn it round.}
24 May 2015 21:06:32
That's very worrying Ed, surely that would just point to another year of transition. :/
{Ed001's Note - not if FSG are decisive in the summer.}
24 May 2015 21:06:56
Surely a manager like Klopp who took over at Dortmund in a far worse state would relish the opportunity of bringing the first lge title back to England's and one of Europe's greatest clubs?
We are currently the world's 9th richest club at a time when our performance on the field is bang average.
The potential here is incredible with the correct management and conditions to work in which surely FSG , if they are as savvy as we are always told they are, would provide
{Ed001's Note - I hope you are right.}
24 May 2015 21:12:02
Interesting, hopefully if FSG act they can pitch themselves like Rodgers did himself three years ago to bag a Klopp or an Ancelotti. One can dream.
24 May 2015 21:30:49
BY the way thanks Ed01 for your opinions and clear passion. I wonder did you laugh at todays performance? I love the team but once it hit 3-0 i have to be honest in saying the part of me that now does think Rodgers should be moved aside found myself thinking this is okay, let it be 5-0 as hopefully would wake the necessary people up into taking action.
In saying that i didn't actually think they would score 5 against us. nevermind 6!!!! I have never seen anything like that for a long time!
{Ed001's Note - no, I was too gutted.}
24 May 2015 23:29:12
I wasn't, tbh. Sometimes. Some people as in BR and his acolytes need to hit rock bottom in order for reality to set in. During the game and after each goal, I chuckled in irony, to myself because reality had just set in for BR as in, his pride had comets before his fall and karma had just come to bite him severely. He was mouthing off about how Spurs messed up and how LVG would struggle in the PL. Come end of the season, who's laughing now? he has been an embarassment and failure to this club and it's fans so I wasn't too fussed about everything else bar the result which made me sick. Sometimes, some people have to touch fire in order to realize it burns. But there is hope for the future because we have a more than decent bunch who can compete with anyone on its day. All we need is the right manager, the right arrivals and departures and a strong and modern structure and foundation for us to build from into the future. We will be fine and most of all, YNWA!! Red Till I'm Dead!
24 May 2015 20:00:37
Hi eddy.After today I will be very surprised and totally disappointed if BR doesn't get sacked.I would like to know your opinion of the rest of the Anfield admin team.I have a bad feeling that there are more people than Rodgers and his team who need to be moved out.Do FSG totally rely on these people to run the club or do they have one of their own based at Anfield Thank tou
{Ed001's Note - Michael Gordon is now on board and is very much an FSG man, they also appointed a man to run the commercial offices, Billy Hogan. I would not be surprised to see Ayre taking more of a back seat too, as his roles are being taken over. The admin and commercial side just really needed bringing into the modern era, rather than being moved out though. They were just too small time for what is now a multinational company with a huge turnover. They still need to do more, for instance in the UAE the only real presence Liverpool have is a few ads for Subway on the side of taxis featuring Sturridge! It is almost impossible to buy kits here. When you try and speak to the commercial office about setting something up, no one replies to messages or answers the phone. So there is still work needed.}
24 May 2015 20:51:55
As I recall, Gordon has the second most shares in FSG behind Henry, so I'd say the owners are pretty well involved in Liverpool FC.
24 May 2015 21:25:38
Gordon owns 12% which is indeed the second highest amount after John Henry
25 May 2015 00:34:26
It's still another bloke that doesn't know what's needed though.
24 May 2015 19:58:44
Thank you to the editors and the fans on this wonderful site. Have a great summer and look forward to next season. Don't get too disheartened Liverpool will return as always.
{Ed001's Note - I hope you are right mate. Up to the owners now to fix this now.}
24 May 2015 23:31:55
I have hope and remain optimistic for next season because we have good players and loyal fans. All we need is the right directives and strategies. FSG, over to you!
24 May 2015 19:48:40
Thanks for all the info during the season ed01 and ed02, I no longer waste time reading lies in other website thanks to the spot on information you guys give. Hope you'll be able to confirm exciting signings during the summer.
P.S I heard a rumour the ed's know the secret footballer lol
{Ed001's Note - so long as we get the right manager, he can make any signing exciting! I can't confirm or deny the ps as it is a secret!}
24 May 2015 22:24:19
I have it that the secret footballer is Dave Kitson but its no secret that the worst manager is BR
24 May 2015 19:48:08
after that dross today, brendan should be charged with match fixing .blimey thought i was seeing things. absolute disgrace.still always next year! cannot come soon enough.
24 May 2015 20:15:44
Forget about next season I think a long break is needed.
24 May 2015 19:44:22
Rodgers saying if the owners want me to go I'll go. Different from being 150% sure he'll be manager next season. I am reading to much into this? It sounds like he knows he's for the chop to me. Or is it just wishful thinking? What do you think?
24 May 2015 20:10:10
It's pretty difficult to see him keeping his position, but who knows as it was a bit surprising to see him get it in the first place.
24 May 2015 20:10:26
I think he'll go.
24 May 2015 20:29:03
He's just laying it out so he can get out as easily as possible with what little reputation he has intact.
24 May 2015 23:40:29
Same old deflection and rubbish from the eternal media minefield. He said that so in the public's eye, it will b like, "Hey, I had no idea they would sack me as they never indicated that during our great run last season and I was led to believe that I would 150% be here. But now, they want me to go so what can I say? They own the club so they decide and none of this is my fault, btw."
24 May 2015 19:41:49
Final nail in the coffin is what LFC did today. The rot needs to be treated ASAP. A review IS needed and should be conducted by non bias football scholars and a segment of the fans.
Rogers should already have been sacked!
There are some good points though. We do have some very good young talent. We have excellent youth. We have building permission for the stadium and I believe the commercial side of things is doing very well.
I hope this review is thorough and equally cut throat. I don't see where the excuses can come from. The season was a disaster and if ever one man made another look good it was Luis Suarez making BR look above average.
For me, I would love to see what Rudi Garcia could bring to the table given the squad we have. A DoF may eliminate some of the mistakes made by the current back room shambles including the transfer committee and at least that makes person answerable.
We all know what the team needs. It eludes me how someone like BR who is paid well over his pay grade can't see it too.
How many times can you play a player out of position within the wrong tactics and not realise that perhaps you don't know what you are doing.
On that note. Thanks to the Eds. simply awesome!
{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, sadly not a good day but the thanks is appreciated.}
24 May 2015 20:30:22
I nominate Ed001 as the 'segment of the fans' in such a review, if not the new manager himself! ;)
{Ed001's Note - I don't mind taking on both roles, then I could prove the missus wrong when she says I can't multi task!}
24 May 2015 21:08:05
Hahaha, In Ed we trust!
{Ed001's Note - I wouldn't need paying anything like as much as Rodgers either, I would rather have the money put towards the budget personally. I think all players and staff should be paid lower basic wages but excellent win bonuses. But then I would have faith in my ability to earn those bonuses, maybe others don't have that faith in themselves?}
24 May 2015 19:34:32
Disastrous performance today, delighted the season is now finished and I'm looking forward to the summer transfer activity. To the Eds, a big thank you for this season on keeping this site running! Cheers
{Ed001's Note - comes to something when the highlight of the season is it finishing!}
24 May 2015 19:54:44
There has never been a day when I wish we were allowed to swear on this site more than today.
{Ed001's Note - there is always the banter site for that....}
24 May 2015 20:01:26
The result today summed up our entire season.
The good thing is at least it did happen in time for the review.
24 May 2015 19:27:53
Favourite Brendan quote everyone? Mine would either have to be 'We play with 11 men. Other teams play with 10 men and a goalkeeper.' or describing himself as a 'thinker of the game'.
24 May 2015 19:58:58
The little jibe about the new defensive coach coming in doing the trick comes to mind, particularly after today.
24 May 2015 23:44:59
Nothing is ever my fault as our defensive woes are "uncoachable". You really have to laugh at the disaster this guy is as a coach and a person. The man lacks integrity and his ability to not take responsibility for anything has become his undoing. Typical as pride comets before the fall.
25 May 2015 11:29:23
The only reason we play with 11 is mingelot has as many touches as the rest. Of the team usually picking it out of the net .worst keeper in 15 years .should have kept Pepe
24 May 2015 19:25:00
With the season over, do you expect the owners to give Rodgers a large sum of money if he stays?
24 May 2015 19:59:47
Ya to leave the club!!
24 May 2015 20:47:42
I can't see the owners giving Rodgers any sum of money because i don't expect him to be here. I also don't see FSG entrusting a transfer committee to delegate transfers as they clearly aren't the ones who work with team day in and day out to see exactly the types of players that would add real value to the team.
The reason I expect BR to be gone is simple; If any of chelsea, utd, city & even arsenal finished 6th this season their managers would be gone. I get why FSG may be thinking twice about sacking BR as a new manager would probably mean having to shell out large sums of money on transfers for the 3rd season in a row. But if BR is planning on revamping the team anyway then why not bring in a new manager all together. It took Rafa 5 years before we regressed, it took Rodgers 1 because we never got going until last season.
24 May 2015 23:47:11
Give him larger sums of money for what, exactly? He should be sacked without pay for allowing Stoke to inflict on us, our worst league loss in over FIFTY years.
24 May 2015 19:16:24
Just for a tiny change, can anyone confirm we did qualify for the Europa League?
I think we have. Villa I think will get a place for being in the FA Cup final against a team with a CL place, and Spurs, who were in the League Cup final against Chelsea, would qualify either through that or because they finished 5th. That leaves a place for us for finishing 6th. And we do need it, btw.
May be something I missed though?
{Ed002's Note - Spurs qualify through the league - they cannot qualify through the LC final. Liverpool can thank Chelsea for their place.}
24 May 2015 19:33:47
If Arsenal beat Villa in the FA Cup final, LFC go to the group stages I believe. If Villa wins, LFC have to start from the 3rd qualifying round and will be playing games from 2 July, only 5 weeks away, which directly clashes with the tour of Australia. With plans already in place, would they cancel the tour? That would be disastrous commercially I would imagine (thank bunch, Brendan). Perhaps, they will send out a "B" team squad for the tour.
24 May 2015 19:36:27
We have to wait on fa cup final to see how early we enter the competition. That's all we're waiting on
24 May 2015 20:50:35
I think Ojo, Branagan and co should be unleashed on the european stage next season, mixed with a healthy blend on first teamers.
24 May 2015 23:48:56
In BR's eyes, that is where we are and we, not him, should accept it and move on to next season with him as the manager, of course. Then, today happened.
24 May 2015 18:34:20
ed2 it seems you are the Nostradamus of lfc rumours haha. Everything youve predicted has been true In some way.
{Ed002's Note - You want to borrow my time machine?}
24 May 2015 18:13:50
Yes
I would like to thank all the eds on the sites this season and especially Edd001 and the sweet Edd002.
Great site. Fantastic effort and work gents.
{Ed002's Note - Thanks Al.}
24 May 2015 18:32:10
Can I second that, they've put up with a lot and still the transfer window to go!
24 May 2015 19:16:29
Great job, guys! Much appreciated!
24 May 2015 19:19:59
Thanks for all your effort and time this season Eds. But of course, things are only going to be quite for a little while until Rodgers gets the sack and we would all appreciate any information you have to share.
24 May 2015 18:04:31
Eds, a touchy subject I'm sure, do you think the owners would feel they have to offer a bit of money to a manager if a new one were to come in? Given the current circumstances, and despite the obvious debt, would they consider it if they felt they had to to attract a potential new manager?
{Ed002's Note - The owners will no doubt make money available this summer, whether through the sale or players or not. You cannot forget that really significant debt the club is in and it is taking on a lot more for the stadium - they cannot simply throw money at the team every year.}
24 May 2015 18:14:33
Indeed Ed, personally I would like to see only funds recouped from sales used, the worry is would it mean less managers would be interested in the job without funds to make their own changes? I think it would, shame really. :/ Thanks a bunch though Ed002.
{Ed002's Note - I would not see that being the case.}
24 May 2015 17:57:09
That new third kit is a belter though
24 May 2015 18:12:07
It's smart. I'll purchase it once we have a new coach in place
24 May 2015 19:35:08
After that display, we should Brendan the kit.
24 May 2015 17:38:43
I would like to thank the Eds for all their hard work & info in what has been a trying season on Liverpool Rumours.
Afraid things probably won't improve over the summer.
{Ed001's Note - thank you mate, it is going to be a long summer that is for sure!}
24 May 2015 17:53:58
Thank you ed for your work on the site throughout the season. A footballing home for many of us
{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}
24 May 2015 18:03:01
I second that !
24 May 2015 18:05:56
Trying months ahead too, thanks Ed001 and Ed002 and all the other staff that make the sights so good, your work is much appreciated here.
{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}
24 May 2015 18:22:52
I concur, the eds have done a great job during a trying season. Thank you both for the intel and insight.
Suck up done. Sack rodgers.
24 May 2015 18:36:25
Eds- be prepared for not only 100 random players names but I suspect another 100 random managers being asked about. Looking forward to the summer good luck
24 May 2015 19:18:28
Much appreciated, Eds!
24 May 2015 19:47:36
An absolute brilliant and insightful site. Well done eds for your patience and knowledge. Interesting and
Crucial summer ahead. Good luck with the million and one inane questions (and the few thoughtful ones!!). I look forward to it with interest and some degree of trepidation. Think Rodgers has out stayed his welcome by now though. Has today been a final nail in his coffin do you think?
{Ed001's Note - I am of the opinion, from what I am being told, that the decision was pretty much made, one result won't make a difference one way or the other. Having seen that performance, it looked like a team that knew the manager was gone to me, so I would assume that was the decision made. But that is just my reading of it as no one is talking, which is why the media have been so full of nothing from FSG.}
24 May 2015 23:57:52
That was my opinion as well, Ed. That game shows what can happen when a dressing room quits on its manager. Total Destruction, really.
{Ed001's Note - it did look like a manager and team just going through the motions. Even his look on the sidelines was less of the smug and more of the resignation of a man who knows his time is up. He normally has a bit of a swagger, an arrogance, some of which is required to be successful, but that looked to be gone even before they demolished us.}
24 May 2015 17:35:42
Thank you and Good luck Stevie, and even though they were not popular, Johnson and Brad, for you service to LFC.
24 May 2015 19:18:43
Amen!
24 May 2015 20:52:23
Don't forget Kolo
24 May 2015 17:29:38
How about Carra and Gerrard in as player coaches with Kenny overseeing everything?
Can't be any worse than we already have. At least the players wouldn't dare not-play in any game.
Also, we've finished 6th. When does the season start for us now?
Saying that though, the players have been on holiday for a while now, so should be rested even if we have to start on July 1st ;-)
24 May 2015 19:20:13
They gave up,on their own manager months ago because he has mismanagement them,completely.
24 May 2015 17:19:12
If we are struggling for a manager would any of you guys like to see Sparky Hughes get a shot. He puts together strong teams who play really well for him and never much money either, just trying to get away from the Rafa and Klopp debate for a bit
24 May 2015 17:26:35
No way! A blind 3 year old could have out maneuvered BR today.
How good was ol' sparky at QPR??
Besides he played for man utd which automatically rules him out.
24 May 2015 17:31:16
ivwould take tony pulis if he would come
24 May 2015 17:32:22
Hughes is too hit and miss. He could make is into a great team or just stagnate slowly down the table.
I'm sure there are other options than Rodgers, Klopp and Rafa for next season, but I don't see anyone within England atm who'd be up to it. I've not really watched much European footie lately, so I only know guys on the continent by reputation.
24 May 2015 18:12:11
Roberto di Matteo, Paulo Sousa, Frank de Boer, Ronald Koeman, Lucian Favre. I think any one of these would be worth a shot if we didn't want to go down the Klopp route.
24 May 2015 19:21:50
Emery, Schmidt, Galtier and so on. There are other very good managers out there but we need nut just a good manager but the RIGHT manager at this pivotal moment because we are a mess, atm
24 May 2015 19:27:29
As much as I want Rodgers gone I wouldn't want Hughes anywhere near Anfield as manager.
24 May 2015 17:08:51
Who reckons Brendan will say Liverpool were "Outstanding" today? Lol. He's bound to get it in somewhere
24 May 2015 17:14:19
I'm interested to see the approach he takes to deflect blame every which way but towards himself.
24 May 2015 17:20:35
Check out Max Renn's post.
He got in there first !
24 May 2015 17:19:23
There is a chap on here called Max Renn. He has just done a very good Mr Rodgers post match interview. About an hour ago !
"To be honest, I think we were outstanding the first 45 minutes, just a wee bit unlucky with the first five goals to be honest. It's a special day for Steven, who himself is special and tremendous. Overall our pressing was fantastic to be honest. Look, the supporters were outstanding I thought, to be honest on this special day for Steven, who has been a tremendous servant for this special club. A wee tear or two later okay.
Oh, Raheem? Got to go, sons playing in playoff final, which in itself is an outstanding achievement. Okay."
- Max Renn.
Good one Max !
24 May 2015 17:24:38
Rodgers when he gets fired: "I think the decision is outstanding, the owners show real character."
Rodgers next time he gets hired: "I think they made an outstanding decision, I have real character."
Rodgers' tombstone: "An outstanding man with real character."
24 May 2015 17:40:25
"If the owners want me to go - I'll go"
He's gone and he knows it, imo.
24 May 2015 18:35:09
Is that what he's said?
{Ed002's Note - I suspect they are teasing you.}
24 May 2015 18:50:20
At least the team showed real character to not concede a seventh goal and real maturity to score today we have been outstanding this season
24 May 2015 19:12:02
He has found a new word to add to whenever he speaks nonsense. That word is "element", possibly used with the term "key" most of the time.
24 May 2015 19:14:44
He did indeed say that ed002
24 May 2015 19:14:54
That is what he said! Wrting is on the wall
24 May 2015 19:22:19
You guys are a riot!
24 May 2015 17:07:21
Well, the players have done their bit, now it's up to the owners to do theirs . I reckon about tea time to-morrow, tick tock, tick tock .
24 May 2015 17:12:56
Wanna bet ?
24 May 2015 19:26:00
What's the point of the meeting, anyway? We have just seen us suffer our heaviest defeat in the league since 1963, along with our overall embarassment of a season under a manager who is neck and neck with Roy in the race for being our worst manager in the PL ever. As our embarassment has been completed, I ask again, what's the point of this meeting?
24 May 2015 17:00:40
Well a disastrous end to the season. We finish in sixth place despite blowing 100M on players in less than 12 months.
Shocking is an understatement. It's no good blaming injuries, all the teams above us have had to deal with injuries of their own. We just have to face facts - we aren't very good, too many of our players aren't very good and Rodgers is a banana.
If the bloke doesn't resign then he has no dignity and if FSG don't sack him if he doesn't then they have no cojones.
24 May 2015 17:07:09
The players are good enough, they have just got worse under management this season
24 May 2015 17:13:34
If FSG don't sack him after all this, it will be borderline incompetence.
24 May 2015 17:14:41
He won't resign because he doesn't think he's done anything wrong. Still thinks his tactics and team selection are spot on. The goals we conceded are ' uncoachable' mistakes. The only thing that is uncoachable is BR.
24 May 2015 17:19:01
Piledriver - some of the players are good enough but far too many are not and never will be.
24 May 2015 17:27:02
We have very good players. 4-5 of which would potentially be wanted by the top four if they were available. And the rest aren't exactly clueless, they are mismanaged. It's as plain and simple as that.
Anyone on here trying to direct any blame at the squad is diluted, even the ones we think are rubbish, they didn't choose Liverpool fc, Liverpool fc chose them - thanks to Brendan Rodgers.
24 May 2015 17:29:05
He won't resign because his compensation would be lower if he did. He will get more money if he is fired. So, no chance of Rodgers resiging or Sterling putting in a Transfer request.
24 May 2015 18:15:38
There is only Coutinho, Henderson and Ibe I would want
24 May 2015 19:27:11
Lallana, Lucas, Sterling, Can, and Lovren, I would add to that list.
24 May 2015 20:09:51
Lallana is £25m of average, would he of had more effect without the injuries? I doubt it. Lucas I like but not strong enough to be long term solution IMO. Sterling has the potential but is the biggest waster of the ball, he must hold the record for the most shots blasted into row Z. Can again has potential but far too hit and miss for me. Lovren lol Really really not sure.
24 May 2015 16:51:07
The obligatory manager question coming up. Everyone has dismissed Rafa as a step backwards, didn't work before etc. I just wondered whether similarly to Real Madrid, we could look to Rafa as a stop gap? Would he consider that an option or would he want a long term position. If he is considering a short term stint at Real then surely he would with us? To me that might be an idea whilst we look for long term solution, who ever that is as I don't see a. Obvious choice.
24 May 2015 16:57:29
I don't think Rafa is the right choice as manager, however, if it's a choice if Rafa or Brendan next season I know who I'd rather see in the dugout.
24 May 2015 17:04:37
I reckon Rafa would take the Liverpool job short term, but it'd be with the intention of getting his foot in the door to get the job long term.
I also don't think a "short-term" manager makes any sense unless you've sacked someone mid-season and can't get who you want until the end of the season. Giving Rafa a minimum of one season, and, presumably in conjunction with a DoF or the transfer committee, a minimum of two transfer windows in which he pursues his ideas in the market and on the training pitch and then handing over to a guy with different tactical ideas is just unnecessary disruption to the squad.
That being said, if the club can't or don't want to get Klopp, or someone a little further down the scale like Galtier or Schmidt, I'd fly to Naples, and carry Rafa back to Liverpool on my back to have him in charge next season instead of Rodgers.
{Ed001's Note - would anyone but Rafa want the job?? It might be a case of Rafa or Allardyce the way things are going!}
24 May 2015 17:17:06
Ed1
I am sad enough as it is. After reading your reply i fainted
{Ed002's Note - Given your cravings for ex-players it is worth noting that Joey Barton will be looking to go in to management. And he might not be bad at it at all.}
24 May 2015 17:19:48
Surely Rafa is committed to the Madrid job now?
24 May 2015 17:26:20
Give rafa the job for 1 year tgen have him mentor gerrard?
{Ed002's Note - This would be the Steven Gerrard with zero relevance experience?}
24 May 2015 17:31:03
We need experience in a manager but what we have been appalling for twenty years is transfers. We should be going all out for monchi and then a quailty manager to work under him.
Rafa is not the answer. I would not want Rodgers or rafa near the club next season. Rafa is a top man he really is,but I watched a lot of dross under him and our squad's were always poor. We were miles behind challenging with the exception of one season and even then rafa wanted Barry over alonso!
Stop thinking of Istanbul ' think of our last season understand benetiz, a similar mess!
24 May 2015 17:34:26
Yeah, lads, just because it worked in the 80s doesn't mean it's a good idea in 2015.
24 May 2015 17:34:31
Still would do better then rodgers ed002
24 May 2015 17:41:53
I'd want Rafa.
24 May 2015 17:51:57
i don't want rafa
24 May 2015 18:14:31
Next door's cat is looking better than Mr Rodgers at the moment.
FSG will understand 'Mr Rodgers'.
24 May 2015 18:28:42
Rafa was the man that took us to no 1 rated team in europe. I'd take him over Rodgers in a heartbeat.
24 May 2015 19:30:02
False comparison as BR is not a high bar at all because even a dead clock is better than BR because at least it will be right twice a day.
24 May 2015 16:33:59
Anyone else notice Markovic has replaced sterling on the club websites new kit advert?
24 May 2015 16:45:08
No. But it's hardly surprising.
Sterling's as good as gone and I can't really blame him.
24 May 2015 16:52:17
Maybe this means Markovic might get a chance to play as an attacker rather than a right wing back?
24 May 2015 16:57:03
Perhaps Sterling should join a decent team. Such as Stoke.
24 May 2015 16:06:09
Hahahaha 5-0 at half time. And that's with no strikers on the pitch, so surely scoring goals should be our problem, not conceding them.
Anyway, if Rodgers stays now. I will not watch a single game next season, or purchase any merchandise.
We can buy messi for all I care, while Brendan's in, I'm out.
24 May 2015 16:12:20
Im trying to look at this shambles from a positive angle. The worse the scoreline gets, more is the chance of Brendan getting sacked. Just trying to put a positive spin on it and this is the best i could come up with. Never thought that i would want to see my team lose even if its for a greater cause
24 May 2015 16:15:12
No your absolutely right mate
I'm not wasting my hard earned money to go to games next season to watch that dross or buy myself or son new jerseys.
24 May 2015 16:23:56
Why doesn't anyone sound sure that the guy is going, I'm still not convinced!
24 May 2015 16:26:53
Well too be honest the bloke should never have been appointed, but hopefully today has shown once and for all his inadequacies and he will be shown the door . and Brendan, please take Allen with you!
As Thomo said - this up coming transfer window may well be the biggest in our club's history . whilst I totally concur, my fear is the funds simply won't be available nor will the players actual desire to join irrespective!
24 May 2015 16:33:29
He will have a tough time explaining this.
24 May 2015 16:37:19
I'm sure he'll find someone else to blame!
24 May 2015 16:43:13
Ron keague, Brendan does not even deserve a chance to explain himself. Like Ed002 said, his appointment was a mistake that would blow up in FSG's faces and that is exactly what happened. The club should save the plane ticket to Boston and just sack him over the phone. I really do not see the need for a review at this point. The fans and players have turned on him so there is no going back for either Brendan or Sterling.
24 May 2015 19:05:25
Indian, if you remember when Rodgers was appointed, who out of all the candidates would you have appointed?
Because Martinez has not been pulling up any trees at Goodison and no-one else wanted the job.
It's easy to say his appointment was a mistake, bit more difficult to say what you would have done instead.
24 May 2015 19:38:14
Pathetic to see that it took Ron and his team of BR apologists him driving us to our worst defeat in the league since 1963, to see that his idol is what many of us thought he was. Pitiful really but I guess for some to realize reality, they need to taste it. I'm not here to gloat because my team just got whipped by a team who we made better than it actually was and that made me sick to my stomach as to what BR has done to our club BUT the question I would have loved to ask would be that if these apologists were the owners, would they keep him? Before today, all we heard was opinions and suppositions with no basis in fact but now that the facts have finally set in, they may come around. And as for him having a hard time, he won't. He won't even get the chance. Pity it took you all this while but it is what it is.
24 May 2015 14:59:10
I guess the game is not that important, and presumably we are setting up for a draw with today's lineup. Who out there can score a goal? Coutinho perhaps but he will be well marked. Game isn't worthless with Europa on the line, but I am happy to see that BR has learned his lesson and avoided putting Can in a back three again. oh wait!!
Hate to say it, but I can see us taking a real thumping today.
24 May 2015 15:28:27
Great start at 2-0 down! Awful
24 May 2015 15:33:14
Make that 3-0 at least need a striker on now
24 May 2015 15:33:30
Make that 3 :'-( :'-( Can't bea any more of this switched off the tv
24 May 2015 15:35:30
3-0 now! The only thing I can do is laugh right now. All hail our tactical genius of a manager! What a great formation today eh
24 May 2015 15:35:55
3-0 down I would love to see Rodgers in that meeting with the Owners, I hope they film it.
24 May 2015 15:39:01
There's more writing on the wall here than at a inner city underpass - Taxi for BR (please)
24 May 2015 15:42:19
Enough is enough. Clueless Brendan has to go now. How long will FSG put up with this mediocrity? Brendan is out of his depth and has made the club a laughing stock, and the players also look to have had enough of him. Get this charlatan out of my beloved club before he pushes the club into midtable mediocrity for eternity. Praying Klopp and Rafa have not mapped out their futures already and we get enough time to rope one of them in after sacking Brendan.
24 May 2015 15:43:45
4 ? To stoke. Kill me. Kill me now.
24 May 2015 15:45:23
5-0.
24 May 2015 15:47:51
5 😭😭😭😭😭😭
24 May 2015 15:48:20
5! To STOKE Just feeling dead. In tears atm
24 May 2015 15:51:10
5-0!!!
You have to laugh! there is nothing left to do. What a send off to Gerrard!!!!!
24 May 2015 15:50:21
If a hammering is what it takes to get BR out then bring in on.
However Stevie G deserves better than this as his last game
24 May 2015 15:50:53
Make it stop.
24 May 2015 15:51:10
5-0!!!
You have to laugh! there is nothing left to do. What a send off to Gerrard!!!!!
24 May 2015 15:51:33
Job well done from the players today
See ya Brendan
24 May 2015 15:51:40
5-0 . Rodgers is a tactical genius.
24 May 2015 15:53:09
It's getting ridiculous. Players need to hold their head in shame just like Brendan. Players need to take responsibility for this.
24 May 2015 15:53:27
Guys
I am a red, you need to laugh or you will cry.
Get a copy of the first half sent to John Henry.his mind should be made up after this.
i want to say it can't get worse (famous last words)
Crooky
24 May 2015 15:54:09
God i hope Mr Henry is watching this right now. Would not be surprised if the poor guy died of shock at seeing what has happened to his investment that was supposed to bear fruits in the near future.
24 May 2015 15:59:42
What a shambles. A complete embarrassment.
See ya Brendan, take your teeth whitener and Tango with you
24 May 2015 16:01:11
BR will fix this up no problem.
He wants a marquee player and will target David Luiz from PSG for 50 mil to shore up the defence. Great eye for talent BR has.
24 May 2015 16:05:01
Only 45 mins to go
24 May 2015 16:11:53
To be honest, I think we were outstanding the first 45 minutes, just a wee bit unlucky with the first five goals to be honest. It's a special day for Steven, who himself is special and tremendous. Overall our pressing was fantastic to be honest. Look, the supporters were outstanding I thought, to be honest on this special day for Steven, who has been a tremendous servant for this special club. A wee tear or two later okay.
Oh, Raheem? Got to go, sons playing in playoff final, which in itself is an outstanding achievement. Okay.
24 May 2015 16:12:31
Well lads, by my reckoning, the last time we played well was on the 1st of March against Man City.
So we can't really say something like this has just come out of the blue. I just hope Southampton don't turn things around against City and take the last Europa League place.
24 May 2015 16:15:15
Anyone who was on the fence before this game won't be anymore. Only players that want br as manager next season are opposition fans. What a disgrace, stevie deserves better. No strikers after buying 4, can at cb while ilori rots. Proud day for all involved at lfc
24 May 2015 16:19:05
Is there any way to have this game abandoned? What if the one or two remaining fans in the away end ran onto the pitch?
Starting from scratch with the umpteenth 3 year plan is looking really good at this point.
No wonder Sterling wants out.
24 May 2015 16:26:54
oh brendan, you're going to need more than just luck to get into any of the top 7/8 clubs in the pl.
24 May 2015 17:01:12
The team were outstanding today. The 6 goals we conceded were all ' uncoachable' mistakes. G
24 May 2015 17:13:09
We all knew what would happen as soon as we saw the team sheet. Players don't play for BR anymore, and sadly, they didn't show up for LFC and in my opinion some of them should be shipped for that very reason.
24 May 2015 17:57:34
If not for br, players should atleast play for the shirt and I'm truely gutted our players didn't turn up. We can criticise Rodgers for getting it wrong most season, but today I hold the players equally accountable. They need some serious drumming in that this is Liverpool they are playing for and this is not good enough.
24 May 2015 14:43:47
Glad, as per my last post that Sterling not playing today.
That team however picked by Rogers is an absolute embarrassment and gives Gerrard little chance to go out on a high.
With that abysmal performance by the team and result in his last appearance at Anfield last week Rogers has again put out a side that offers little going forward.
Hopefully the last team he picks.
24 May 2015 15:41:15
Well, you've got to give it to the man. He's really been fighting for the boot. I honestly don't think he knows anything about setting up a team. There's literally zero balance in that line-up. Rafa is probably laughing in Napoli right now.
24 May 2015 15:59:20
"Hate to say it, but I can see us taking a real thumping today" Coop
Coop you are correct!
24 May 2015 14:34:50
Has anybody seen our team today.
Six midfielders. No pace.
And can remains in the backline. For fans assuming can will play midfield next season, why hasn't he been given a chance this season? What will change next under Rodgers?
Shocking selection today again
24 May 2015 14:18:12
Unless Johnson injured I find it very poor of Rodgers not to include him today.
Five central midfielders in the starting 11 today, no striker and no youngsters involved . Brenda you really are a class act.
24 May 2015 14:34:03
I find the 3-7-0 formation to be an interesting choice.
24 May 2015 14:50:03
"We have got other young players focused on the game" says BR in not selecting Sterling. and where are they then??
Is Sinclair injured? Who exactly is going to be playing up front today? Baffling selection once again
24 May 2015 17:26:36
I think he was playing a false nine. And a false 7. Possibly a false 11, 2,3,4,5,6 & 10 as well. And a false goalie.
24 May 2015 14:16:35
If insanity is "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, " is Rodgers' persistence in playing Emre Can as a right back just admittance that he's not right in the head?
I'm going for 1-1 today, a Gerrard penalty and then Walters to nick a dodgy equaliser, actually scared a win might keep Rodgers in and thus screw up next season, so a draw with Stevie scoring wouldn't be an awful outcome.
24 May 2015 14:40:13
Stoke will beat us I reckon.
24 May 2015 14:42:02
Hopefully he is gone soon, I'm so bored of him now.
24 May 2015 14:45:15
Playing with no strikers and no pace from wings. Why not give Ojo and Ibe a start. let's hope FSG do the right thing when they review the season.
24 May 2015 15:30:18
I underestimated his incompetence.
Disgraceful.
24 May 2015 13:07:29
Sterling rang Ayer on Thursday to confirm he wanted to go. However will not put in a transfer request yet
So has stopped hiding behind his agent for once.
24 May 2015 13:32:29
Won't put in a transfer request though because he know that will cost him money( even though he says it's not about money)
24 May 2015 13:33:51
Surprised he didn't ask his mum too for him, seams like a right soft lad.
24 May 2015 13:57:52
If he puts in a Transfer request, he will have to forego an x% of the transfer for him, so he will try his best to not put in a TS.
24 May 2015 12:43:21
Sterling dropped today.
24 May 2015 13:28:54
Good, we need to sell.
24 May 2015 12:43:02
Amidst all the Sterling talk it seems to be forgotten that Stevie G will lead the Reds out for the last time today.
It will also be farewell to Glen Johnson, his performances over the last few seasons may not have been great however he seems to be leaving in a quiet and dignified way, unlike other examples we have recently experienced.
Here's hoping for a win and some positivity to say goodbye to two long standing servants and to end a wretched season on a high.
24 May 2015 11:50:01
Ed's do you think BR will play sterling today? Do you think it's wise considering all the negative press attention and also that he has been consistently our worst player for the past 2 months.
Do we really think he'll give his all for the shirt today?
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea Dave.}
24 May 2015 12:38:05
I reckon he'll play because BR told the fans to get behind him today or something like that
24 May 2015 12:52:44
BR will decide to play him as defensive midfielder today. When we lose 2-0 he'll say how outstanding we were today and what a great season we've had.
24 May 2015 09:49:58
Some papers reporting a possible cash plus demo deal with city for sterling. Who would want Dzeko? I've never been overly impressed with his general play but he does score goals and has done at all levels, wouldn't be a bad bit of business I feel ( if the cash part was right)
24 May 2015 10:09:10
Demo is meant to say Dzeko, stupid auto correct.
24 May 2015 11:00:49
Id take bony and 10 mil
24 May 2015 11:15:22
I'd take Jovetic and £25 million
24 May 2015 11:22:39
Bony + 10m yes please. Dzeko no way.
24 May 2015 11:26:39
Not a bad call 5ive but can't seem them releasing him. I assume only Dzeko and jovetic they would want rid of.
24 May 2015 11:28:51
£40m + Jovetic ;)
Red Rum
24 May 2015 11:35:23
Bony and ten million?
No chance, he's worth more in today's market and the club will get more.
We're enticing a bidding war on this one and clubs will pay it too.
24 May 2015 12:01:07
If QPR receive a percentage, we need to play hard-ball on this one.
24 May 2015 12:18:40
It should be more like either bony or jovetic plus 30mil
If we get anywhere near 50mil for sterling it's a cracking piece of business.
If he wasn't English you'd be talking 20mil for him.
I feel sorry for sterling to be honest because his agent could quiet easily de rail his career.
I can easily see sterling just warning the bench somewhere just like Sinclair abd wright Phillips to name a few
24 May 2015 12:23:45
Bony just signed on for 30 mil. Jovetic is like Sturridge. always injured. Strrling isn't even worth 20 mil imo so hence bony and 10 mil . Would be a super deal . If they want him tell them that's the deal.
24 May 2015 12:26:37
If we got jovetic and 30 mil would be a fantastic deal for us. And wouldn't look quite as bad as just selling our best players
24 May 2015 12:39:30
I'd be vey happy with Dzeko other than his age maybe. But as a striker he is one of the most underrated players in the PL in my view. Scoring 14 goals or more for three consecutive season as a substitute, an amazing record.
24 May 2015 13:30:55
5ive, if this sell on clause is true, then really, it's a straight swap for Bony.
Not having that.
{Ed002's Note - That's a stroke of luck - because it is not an option.}
24 May 2015 13:33:42
Jovetic is not injury prone. If you are not playing regularly it makes you more at risk of injury when you do play. Pellegrini just doesn't fancy him, but he's competing against Silva and Aguero so it makes sense.
I think he'd be a cracking signing and a player exchange is beneficial for us because QPR get 25% of the fee. So 25% of 25 million is only 6.25 million.
{Ed002's Note - Jovetic has not settled in England and has extensive injury problems over the past two years.}
24 May 2015 13:46:00
Hey ed002, all this talk of a swap deal, I've been informed that QPR get 20% of the fee.
If Liverpool, hypothetically were to get jovetic and 25million pounds, would QPR get 5 million or more? Thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - No, they would get whatever percentage is due for the assessed value of the entire transfer.}
24 May 2015 13:59:58
The thing that is forgotten here is that Sterling is at an age where a good manager is still able to mould him into a potentially top player. He has the physical attributes, just like say Cuadrado, who in my opinion is a much better payer. However, I fear Sterling's head will get in the way. He's not nearly intelligent enough either on or off the pitch. He doesn't exactly seem to be very bright.
24 May 2015 14:13:30
I'd still hold out for Jovetic, he's a class act and would fit our style of play better than Bony or Dzeko.
With the extra cash I'd try for Keita Balde Diao.
Sell Mario, sell Borini, get a decent right back.
That would be my summer business for LFC.
24 May 2015 14:36:32
Bony and Jovetic + 10mio for Sterling.
24 May 2015 09:46:46
Ed s reading earlier posts about ilori last summer I had my son outside the melwood gates on several occasions one of the players who stopped was ilori my son who was 8 didn't recognise him!!! The guy was so nice smiled explained who he was smiled signed my son's autograph book waved and drove off. Class. Shame some ofthe other pplayers who he does recognise ddon't behave the same!!!!!.
{Ed002's Note - It is indeed Stevie.}
24 May 2015 11:24:36
Stevie, it was different only a few years ago.
Things were more relaxed and Stevie Heighway even allowed us in to watch them train on a number of occasions as we would all have a kick about on the training pitches.
Still frightens me now just how good the short arse Owen was on the flesh.
As 'professionals', many of them need to remember this. I think they should be employed to act-out their professional role on a full-time basis like all us mugs. Why not? They get paid enough!
24 May 2015 14:52:50
Davy bootle agree totally!!! My son's favourite player is couthino he's stopped signed photo taken!!! Made my lads day!!!TThey should all do it especially for the kids.
24 May 2015 09:36:54
I think the biggest worry with selling sterling is the message it sends out. Once again selling a talented player that may leave current players questioning the clubs ambition. Ultimately though the selling of sterling at the speculated £50 million mark would be in the best interests of the club in my opinion. Obviously if the funds are reinvested properly. We are looking at a 20 year old kid who in all likelihood will not fetch more than 50 mill in his prime. Clubs are paying for potential. He is undoubtably talented but a million miles from the finished article. He has yet to complete a consistently good season for us, with his form very erratic over the past two seasons.
He is so reliant on acceleration that unfortunately he is one bad muscle injury away from being a very average player.
I think you should always try and retain your better players but given how unsavoury this whole situation has become I believe a sale is probably now in the clubs best interest.
God let's hope the transfer committee get it right this summer!
Cheers
{Ed002's Note - It doesn't send out any message at all - players are simply transient employees of the club.}
24 May 2015 10:16:34
Once again we find ourselves with a player that several big european clubs are interested in, and we could possibly even benefit from a bidding war.
The difference this time is that suarez was established and a world class quality striker, whereas sterling is still only 50% of the player he could become. Clubs will be paying partly for his great potential, of which we have only seen glimpses this season.
It is looking far from certain that Sterling will ever realise his true potential, and his fee could fund what we desperately need- a top goalscorer.
I have no qualms about palming him off on another club. I think anything over 30 million would be great business. Given his recent form, 50m could turn out to be a rip off of torres-esque proportions, but who knows? let's see what his suitors are prepared to pay.
24 May 2015 11:26:43
Greggers, this is becoming pathetic now.
It is so fickle to suggest that Sterling is a near average player.
Some of you need to get the shabite out of your eyes.
Sterling is a crackin' player. End of. If he wants to leave, then let the lad as he's got more chance of winning silverware elsewhere.
24 May 2015 11:53:20
I agree with the ed players come and go . Support the ones who wear the jersey and wish the others the best and take the money and move on .
24 May 2015 12:24:52
Davey you seem to have a little difficulty reading. I didn't say he was near average and actually made reference to him being one of the better players at the club. His game is ultimately centred around acceleration and pace and any serious muscle injury would have a huge impact on his game. Does he possess any other outstanding attributes that would make him a cracking player without his pace? No. His finishing is average, his delivery is average and is far from being the most technically gifted player. However I will concede that at the moment due to his explosiveness he is a real threat on his day and has the ability to change a game.
Given the current circumstances the club, in my opinion are best to sell and move on.
Cheers
24 May 2015 13:47:33
Behave Greggers.
Don't try and paper over the cracks.
His form has dipped because of the circumstances, that's all.
You're right, it's best to sell, but at the right price.
24 May 2015 14:37:02
Davey Bootle , Sterling is well overrated and overhyped. He had a good season last year because with Sturridge and Suarez creating so much space it was ideal for him to use his pace. His end product is woeful. His crossing, passing and shooting is poor! He scuffs so many shots, doesn't strike the ball cleanly at all. If you got offered £30m I'd think that's a good price. Personally Coutinhio is a much better player and Ibe will be in 12-18 months too.
24 May 2015 08:52:34
Me living in Australia, i have to stay up till all hours of the morning to see my team play live. I must admit, since i'v been able to view live epl (about 8 years) i'v only missed a handfull of games. But this season has been so disappointing that i'v just recorded it and if we had bad result i really had to fight to bother putting myself through it. If Rodgers is kept on i'm done! i won't be able to watch!
24 May 2015 09:06:49
I'm in the same boat Mark, countless games staying up til 2 or 3 am on Monday mornings and being wrecked for work. It's all worth it It's because I love the team but these last few weeks I've been tempted not to, just finding it hard to handle Rodgers tactics and mindless team selections. Need him gone so I can look foward to the new season!
24 May 2015 10:03:54
Mate I feel your pain. I go to Anfield for most matches but since this plonker took charge I rarely bother ( second half of this season) not been for months. Anfield has lost its magic, no passion there at all, everyone just seems so nervous and let down. I really hope the idiot leaves, Saturday's are so boring without football. I just can't bare watching us get beat at home by villa, palace etc. And not just get beat I ain't that childish, but play like a Sunday league outfit
24 May 2015 10:17:22
I live round the corner and I can't be arsed watching, I know at least 7 of my diehard friends who have let the seat go to friends as they can't be bothered with the dross be served up! we are Liverpool I have never known this I feel like a Bolton supporter ( sorry Bolton fans)
24 May 2015 11:15:18
Understand what you mean lads. Born and bred in Liverpool (fazak), living in oz since 18. Hard to watch the team the last few months. My boy is 15 and is already I die hard fan. He hates the mancs and chelski with a passion, and thinks my indifference to the team lately is unloyal, but he hasn't seen what I saw in the late 70's and 80's. Even now, he will insist on staying up til 2 am on a school night to watch his team on the last day of a dissapointing season. Have faith though boys, we are Liverpool!
24 May 2015 12:11:17
Aussie fan here too. I am in the exact same mindset as you MARK. It was always so exciting staying up to watch the team play. Yes, there were highs and lows. But that was the exciting thing. Now, it is just so frustrating to watch uninspiring football and then pay for it all the next day because of lack of sleep. I hope next season turns around.
24 May 2015 12:19:59
Same story here, too many late nights/early starts this season only to watch questionable team selection, tactics and substitutions, and complete dross in the key games, especially Man Utd, Arsenal and Villa (and apart from Man City), I really hope we get a massive turnaround (or Klopp or someone like him) otherwise I am going to struggle next season.
24 May 2015 12:34:48
Aussie Mark ,if you think that's disappointing, try being a UK based Brisbane Lions fan
24 May 2015 08:22:18
Morning Eds
Various papers this morning suggests Stirling wants a move to Arsenal. Is there any chance that Theo Walcott and Alex Ox-Chamberlain could come the opposite way in the deal? I know it's difficult as all players would have to agree terms etc, but it seems as though Walcott and Chamberlain want more starts next season and Liverpool could provide that! Do you know anything on both players wanting a move?
Cheers
{Ed002's Note - I wouldn't try to complicate matters.}
24 May 2015 08:43:27
We do not need either. Both are injury prone and inconsistent and simply do not offer anything that the club does not already have. LFC should simply use the funds for a striker or two and a GK before committing funds to other positions.
24 May 2015 08:50:50
I hope we're not interested in Sterling because the best way to gage how someone is likely to treat you is by the way they've treated people in the past, he's all Raheem as Suarez was all about Louie.
Both very good players but both ultimately selfish through and through and more hassle than their worth in my opinion.
Youre very welcome to Theo I'd love to get 15 million for him but would take 10mil but the Ox ? No way Gonzalez he's a brilliant lad with a brilliant future and nothing but a credit to our club and his profession, £100 million and Sturridge and you can have first option on the Ox should we ever go insane and let him go :-)
24 May 2015 08:59:54
Can't imagine one reason why we would want Walcott. He's got serious injury issues and has barely played a quarter of Arsenals games over the last 2 years. As for Oxlade, you do realise who his agent is don't you? Personally I think we should just try to get as much as we can for Sterling and move on.
24 May 2015 09:08:43
Gunner who out of our squad would you say would get in the arsenal team?
24 May 2015 09:30:55
Coutinho Sterling Henderson and Sturridge would all be part of the 18 on the day there's little doubt about that.
Personally I'd take Sturridge if I could add only one player to our squad from yours, yeah I know about the injuries but I think a football free summer will do a lot of players good mentally and physically who were at the world cup last year
24 May 2015 09:55:38
Not a bad assessment gunner though I would also say Lucas is better than anyone you have in that role and I would have sakho in before mertersacker.
24 May 2015 11:21:50
Love Lucas, but think coquelin is improving no end. And Sturridge over coutinho, really? Thanks gunner for your input over the years though, well balanced input.
24 May 2015 11:42:54
Cheers Burkey mate, I've always been admirer of Liverpool for lots of reasons, Shankly I loved to bits (still do) the brilliant way the club went quitly about its business of being the absolute best for years with fantastic dignity and humbleness.
Jimmy case getting the ball wedged between the railings in a European game under the lights and most of all the reception and respect we got when we beat you 2 0 to nick the league that night lives long in the memory, very few fans would be capable of that.
24 May 2015 12:20:29
Being a Southerner all my mates are Arsenal fans, classy club. Only fans I think that haven't sung the Stevie G sing this season to my knowledge too!
24 May 2015 08:13:03
I don't suppose there's any chance that the plane flying over Anfield recently can't be used too hasten Brendan's end of year review in Boston???
#inrodgerswetrustnotsomuch
24 May 2015 01:35:44
What are your views on Gary nevilles comments. As much as I don't like him I think he has spoken sense. Liverpool have not tried to grow the business in the 80s 90s and early 2000s which has cost the club dear
23 May 2015 22:25:36
Ed's, with many people naming foriegn managers as replacements for Rogers, is there any english/British managers that you think could do the job.
{Ed001's Note - none that I can think of.}
24 May 2015 00:20:38
"is there any english/British managers that you think could do the job."
Better than Brendan? Most of them.
24 May 2015 10:48:04
@chazza g yes Rafa he's a scouser!