Liverpool Banter Archive July 24 2013

 

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24 Jul 2013 23:48:58
After Suarez leaves, I personally think we will put a decent bid in for Soldado. He is not on huge wages, and though he is in La Liga, he would be relatively low risk. Personally, I think Suarez has already had his best season, and this will be a good move for us. I think the ultimate success of our season will depend more on picking up another solid center back, and the coveted attacking mid (come on, Eriksen.).

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24 Jul 2013 23:46:57
eds when suarez does go will all the money be put back in to the team? were in trouble if they think aspas is the replacement shocking! fine if he goes but the fans will demand a star replacement that's for sure cheers
mike {Ed052's Note - all the money will go back in. Aspas is the replacement for LS but we will get one other attacking option in}

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If aspas is the replacement of LS, then we really need lots of goals from the midfield.

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24 Jul 2013 23:40:21
I, like everyone, can't wait for the Suarez saga to end. And by all accounts, it will likely end ugly. Perhaps not burning his jersey outside Anfield like with Torres, but I can see some significant fan backlash occuring. I hope everyone realizes, as I do, that Henry's "what are they smoking" bit, is simply him saying they want more money, and I am sure he is salivating at the thought of recouping the lost money on Carroll. Unfortunately for the fans, I don't see them investing the 50 million in players. Perhaps 25 to 30 million, but not 50. Need to make up for losses.

Coop

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24 Jul 2013 23:35:52
Well done a clearly disappointed BR with post match comments re Suarez.

Clearly a reaction to Suarez posture during what was a celebration of our great club, unfortunately lost on Suarez & a sour point of the game.

Suarez is a disgrace I get him wanting the RM move, but the wenger boys? All this just to play in group stages of UCL?

If bale leaves it will b between us & arsenal for UCL, surely we can't sell to them as a direct competitor.

I just can't believe how he is disrespecting the millions fans, players, BR & the owners that have stood by him amongst his damaging discretions.

C'mon luis take a step back & look at what you are doing, have a bit of dignity lad.

Jimbob

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Here here!

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Jimbob, I am not sure that Suarez qualifies as the sentimental type. I for one am totally done with him, leave or stay. Its time we all move on from this guy. Brought nothing but shame, and now embarrassment. BR referring to him as a son was really too much for me. If I were representing the club in transfers, I would ask Madrid are they interested or not at 50 plus million, and if not, let Arsenal have him for the same price. He will bring shame on them and be requesting a transfer from them soon enough

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24 Jul 2013 23:31:03
Does anyone know who this lad called Rafa is?
He was in the U-21 team playing Glentoran today.
This one slipped under the radar

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24 Jul 2013 23:29:00
Robin van Persie: Manchester United agree £24m deal with Arsenal.
Now Arsenal will have to pay £40M + Plus Massive wages to get (6.24 million GBP (2012) per season) £120,000 a week. How much are arsenal per-pared to pay for a player that is lesser quality than Robin van persie. seems like madness how arsenal has been run in recent years.

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Lesser quality?

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Lesser quality how? Persie is a more clinical finisher, but that's it and 4-5 years older, get a grip m8.
Suarez isn't any worse player now, just because he wanna leave.

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24 Jul 2013 23:25:10
Madrid aren't going to bid for Suarez

Arsenal will get him for around £45m

Rodgers will claim it's too late for any replacements

6th or 7th place is the highest LFC could expect without Reina, Carragher and Suarez

Paul {Ed052's Note - we e got 6 weeks}

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Reina gave away crucial goals through error, as did Carra. Suarez missed crucial matches through stupidity.

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Just a tad pessimistic.

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Have faith Paul m8 lessons I'm sure have been learnt
Ynwa lfc linc

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24 Jul 2013 23:20:38
Hi Eds,

Once we get rid of the ungrateful scrote that is Suarez do you think there's any chance of us signing Yilmaz from Gala?

Thanks
Ian {Ed052's Note - not a huge chance. I don't believe we have any interest especially at the price they want}

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Personally I just don't think he has enough quality to move us forward. How do the Ed's rate him?

Jimbob {Ed052's Note - not a great league but a decent Cl goal record. But iver priced for what he is}

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24 Jul 2013 23:14:59
Could be adding an Australian youngster according to this article

http://tinyurl.com/lgtv69x

GuvTOB {Ed052's Note -

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24 Jul 2013 23:13:44
by the end of the week ill say real will have suarez and well have saldado and cissokho bids accepted that is just a feeling also think with the extra cash two more will come in ill guess papa and eriksen I know the price was high on papa but with this extra cash think well higher are bid and also turn back to eriksen

mayhem 1981

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Cissokho will not improve our first team. He is IMO a really average player that is no better than Enrique.

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24 Jul 2013 23:09:24
lets Hire Derren Brown, Paul Mckenna and Tony Robbins and they can do some voodoo mind tricks on our current players to make them think they are better than they really are and Liverpool wouldn't need to waste anymore money on players. physically football players are similar at this level. Its just the metal side that let's us down.

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Not enough steel? Need to iron out the rough spots?

Answers on a postcard please.

Marshy

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Players are still a bit rusty yet!

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24 Jul 2013 23:03:27
Daily Mail (yes not the best source)

BR: "There was an offer two weeks ago of £35m. Two weeks later it is now £40m and £1, I don't think it is anywhere near what he is worth."

BR: "But it is two-fold, really. A player may want to go but then somebody has to pay the value of that player."

BR: "If Arsenal want the player, then they have to produce the value for the player."

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24 Jul 2013 23:01:40
Just like to say love Ed02 and his info and wit, its been nice seein ed052 on more. Thanx for your work eds.

Waltonred {Ed052's Note - you're most welcome}

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24 Jul 2013 22:59:41
Hey eds and reds Am I the only one who would not be mad to see suarez go to arsenal! I've had enough of him at this stage and will be glad to see the back of him whether he goes to arsenal or real madrid or wherever!
I think arsenal are taking a very big risk if they are to pay 50 million for this guy, firstly he misses the first 6 games of next season, then one of his first games back will be against Liverpool where i'm sure he will get a tough time! Then once arsenal make there annual quarter final exit from the champions league and are fighting to get get into 4th with spurs and (hopefully us) he won't be happy. Next season he could force the move to madrid!
This is not taking into account his annual moment of madness where he may get banned again!
Also rumours say he will be on 150k a week, surely some arsenal players such as wilshere, walcott, cazorla may look for higher wages and could cause trouble in camp!
Id almost rather him go to arsenal just so he can come to anfield and get the abuse he deserves, let arsenal have a go at his antics, then it will be suarez of arsenal all over the back of the papers for diving, cheating etc!
I know arsenal could really push on with him as he is a quality player but he could also really bring arsenal down. f he starts getting all the bad press, giving out to all the young players at arsenal I can't really see wenger pulling him aside telling him to kop the **** on, the only manager that could handle him is mourinho!
Lastly all these arsenal fans who would now love suarez at arsenal I remember not too long ago all my arsenal friends giving out about suarez, about the diving, cheating, racism, and biting etc yet now they all say he's worth it!
Thats my 2 cents on the subject anyway!Eds and fellow reds I've read a good few posts on the matter and yer replies would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers

Quinner

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24 Jul 2013 22:57:16
Macca has confirmed what the ed's have said all along.

Time to move on folks, let him go, with or without our best wishes, sure he may be missed but who know's who we will sign, who will come through the ranks? that's the beauty of football you just never know.

As a pointer, with him have we improved significantly? have we improved our league position considerably? not really. And for those saying/claiming we won't attract players, just look at Indonesia and Melbourne. fantastic support, still with a world wide reputation, FSG, let BR spend the cash! speculate to accumulate! T-Mac

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24 Jul 2013 22:57:09
Few months ago all medias were slotering suarez saying he is a discrees, Liverpool shuld get rid of him, bla bla bla. Now they all saying what a great singin suarez will be for arsenal and he is what they been missing. I really hoppe we don't sell to arsenal! What next? Same thing with coutinio next seasen we rellay have to push for pot 4. If we let suarez go to arsenal! We can forget about top 4. Seasen over before it begins

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24 Jul 2013 22:53:15
Robert soldado, 28 or not is available and worldclass goalscorer. Look at RVP and united, how he single handidly won games because of his goals. If the bid is true, I would see us sealing the deal. Us or spurs? Its a no brainer

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24 Jul 2013 22:52:58
Macca, where do you expect Suarez to go? Thanks for the info!

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24 Jul 2013 22:49:18
Hi Eds & fellow reds, as Suarez's ban came from the english FA, would this extend to competitive fixtures in another country?

If he was to go to Arsenal, the ban would still apply, whereas at Real Madris he could play the opening fixture of the season?

Cheers, LFC_MIKE_YNWA {Ed052's Note - it would apply to both countries}

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Cheers. {Ed052's Note - Welcome}

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24 Jul 2013 22:41:35
Hi Eds

When BR stated sometime last week on transfers that he still wants to bring in some extra support in attack, do you think he meant this assuming suarez would stay? (i know he won't)

Or is it the case that if suarez leaves we would look for 2 additional players at the top end of the field?

Thanks! {Ed052's Note - I think it was assuming he was off. Aspas is his replacement but we want one more attacking player}

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24 Jul 2013 22:40:31
Not really a rumour but really concerned with Suarez demeanour against Melbourne earlier! Look to have no interest and his celebration after his assist was almost as if told to by prob his agent! Very sad! Hope Liverpool go and buy a couple of world class player 1 being soldado which might make Suarez sit up take notice! If not sorry Suarez your not bigger than the club! Ynwa

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24 Jul 2013 22:39:39
Ed52

Sorry it's RedLee again :-)

A lot of posters including me have asked if we can sign this player that player etc.

Now if we sell top players like LS (given every top player we mention we get a no or not from lpool answer)?do you think we can attract the right quality to make top 4?

If we can't then surely we should not sell anyone :-)

Youknowwho {Ed052's Note - We could attract a lot of people like Eriksen or Soldadi. But I don't know of interest in any replacement yet. I think we will sort out this mess first. }

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24 Jul 2013 22:37:45
Eds do you see Coutinho playing an integral role in our squad for next season along with Sturridge {Ed052's Note - defo}

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24 Jul 2013 22:36:51
hey all. I just want to give my opinion on the suarez nightmare. when he first signed, all of us saw him as the replacement for torres. the man to pick us back up and put us back where we belonged, his first half season with us showed us all that we were in good hands with him, and he showed something the premier league had never seen. a street fighter, a footballer with outstanding ability to retain the ball under ridiculous circumstances, he celebrated his first goal against stoke like it was the goal that set him on his way to anfield greatness, commoli and others were shakin hands and celebrating like it was the start of a special period for us. the season after is still a real blurr to me, dalglish bought a lot of new players and the whole season was all about them, how they were struggling and how Liverpool were trying to come to terms with everything, it was a confusing season, highs (cup finals) lows. only winning 6 at home. but suarez was the one, we looked to him knowing that if in any doubt, in the big games he would deliver. and he did. slowly he was becoming a legend. our first season with rodgers, suarez had a new contract, excited about the future, about building something special. we all had hope, but then the end of the transfer window knocked us all. left us short up top. we needed something special to see us through to january. what did we get? we got suarez. in the form of his life. until january he was the only player to mention in our squad. he carried us. he showed the most belief, showed the most desire, he showed everything. he was LFC . yes then the chelsea game, he got banned, he apologised. we forgave him ( as we did with the evra situation). we gave him a home, we gave him something no other set of supporters could give. unfounding belief in a man riddled with psychological issues. when he scored the free kick against zenit I have never seen (since gerrard against olympiakmos) a player celebrate and roar the crowd on. I was sat on the sofa watching that game, as soon as the free kick went in I turned to my dad and said. 'this is a special player, one of the best in the world'.

6 months on and all I can say is that I am dissapointed in him, not as a player, but as a man. Liverpool fc put reputations on the line to try and protect a man we thought was our own, a man that would stick by us the same as we stuck by him. he is a player that deserves champions league I am not doubting that, but what I am doubting is his ability to ever become a true great. there are great footballers out there who never really belonged ( ibrahimovic, anelka, to name 2) . will they stand the test of time? . maybe I am being biased when I say that the greatest achievement in english football is to place Liverpool back where they belong? win us the title. become a true legend, have a job and a home when you retire? suarez will go down as an all time great, one of the best as a player, but in my heart can never go down as a true legend. to play for Liverpool is to achieve greatness with us, our family, our history, our unconditional love. to play for the shirt. my one dream would to have the liverbird on my chest stepping infront of 45000 amazing fans every fortnight.

suarez no longer wants that, so I no longer want him.


ynwa

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That was a really good read mate. Not being sarcastic but it nearly brought a tear to my eyes. Reading what you said brought back the memories of the player and person that we thought symbolises what LFC meant. Seeing what he did in the Melbourne game was really heart wrenching. I am not talking about his performance. People will start saying it is his first game of preseason so he is entitled to a loss in form. I agree, however, I am not deluded as to not see that he did not bother to celebrate with his mates when Aspas scored. You can see the confusion on Aspas' face when he tried to go over to Suarez to thank him for the assist. It was a sad sad situation. One that I have never ever expected with Suarez just only 12 months ago, when he led our line so bravely. I am not angry, but disappointed, just like you mate. Sad too. But like what you said, he no longer wants us, so we don't want him anymore. Damn it, feels like I just broke up with my girlfriend. =p

YNWA
JFT96
Redken

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That's exactly how I feel mate, spot on, top post. I'm sure that's how a lot of people are feeling at the moment.

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I suspect many are feeling the same.

He played us for fools. He will do the same to Arsenal, or Real, or whoever.

He is bigger than any club. Everything is about him. Psychological problems, indeed.

Now he will hurt team morale. He must be sold ASAP. Rodgers and owners have to realize this.

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Good post and replies, I agree with you. The only think I wanted to add is that I don't think Suarez realises what he is doing to us fans as I think he is too selfish. I don't think it even enters his head that he owes us and the club some loyalty after all the support we've given him, I'm convinced he's just a self-centred planet and just doesn't have the ability to see anything other than what he wants. He also seems to lack the ability to look at his own actions and take responsibility for some situations. I'm not slating the guy even though I want to, just passing my observations. I reckon his brain is doing something like this. "Since coming to Liverpool I've had nothing but abuse from the press. I don't know why they don't like me, I just want to play football. It must be LFC so I'll go somewhere else. What do you mean you won't let me and I owe you? I just want to play football and I want to leave. Why are you people so difficult!" :-) Bryan

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24 Jul 2013 22:28:50
IMO real madrid will now bid 37m and a player in px and we will accept it and no doubt now suarez is talking to arsenal they'll move fast I reckon before the weekend
bigW

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25 Jul 2013 01:12:33
I'd be happy with that if we could get Coentrao as part of the deal. We'll have to see

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In your dreams.

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24 Jul 2013 22:19:50
Hi Ed's, do you think Stephen Sama will get much of a chance this season. He looks a quality young player. Is he highly rated at the club?

cheers {Ed052's Note - he is a available for loan. He didnt have a great last season and has fallen down the pecking order}

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24 Jul 2013 22:16:50
Lets get cissoko. Cabaye or Ericsson. Jackson Martinez or soldado plus one more in on Suarez money and let's move on! All the negativity from suarez is just hurting us, we could get some players who really want to play for us and really have a go this year! Sooner the better though as players need much possible time to gel!

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24 Jul 2013 22:16:14
Any news on carrick and Shaun wriGht Philips

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24 Jul 2013 22:15:19
Players not currently in the CL that would be good realistic buys when Suarez leaves? Difficult to think of anyone really!

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Would you have thought of Suarez when Torres left?

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Robert soldado

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How about a attacking option of Sturridge, Aspas, Muriel, Eriksen, Courtinho, Sterling, Ince, Ibe and Alberto. We really don't need Suarez and we're a much better team without him. Downing, Assaidi, Borini can also go. BornRed78

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Fellaini! :D

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It is a bit of a tough one, to be honest. I suspect the preference would maybe be someone on the left leaving Sturridge central, Aspas right, Coutinho CAM but I can't really think of anyone who would check the boxes either. Complete unrealistic and I don't really like him as a person, but Ribery would be about perfect. Turan maybe? Sanchez (probably unrealistic as well)? Fischer? Markovic moved I think already. Griezmann? Lots of names but I doubt any of them are of interest.

I do agree that BR may have a tough time putting that money to use but I think it'll be very interesting to say the least to see what he does with it.

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Or players who are in the CL, but need to move away because it hasn't worked out for them, and are looking for a fresh start and a point to prove!

The real AG

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Marco rues is the dream for me RDL but literally NO CHANCE of that, how about lavezzi? I think he's got a point to prove AG lol

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I'd love Reus as well. For me, again a nearly perfect fitting wide forward- quick, mobile, good on the ball, presses hard on defense, and fantastic finishing. As you say, no chance though.

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To be honest, I think we will go for Eriksen and push Coutinho out to the left.

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24 Jul 2013 22:12:54
I posted last week. I have a mate who I went to uni with, who works freelance for Arsenal as Physio. He is on stanby to either to be part of the team that does Suarez medical, or may be sent to replace physio on Arsenal tour. Suarez is due either in London or abroad for talks. The medical team are preparing documents, and once bid accepted will ask LFC for his medical file. He says the feeling is it will happen soon. He also says, a few other names mentioned, but none as big as Suarez. To miss out now would leave Arsenal redfaced, so expect 50plus millions bid.

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Arsenal fan here. relax guys Wenger would have a heart attack if he went for a 19mil plus signing think this is all smokescreen have fun this season

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Arsenal are in a strange position regarding the clause which is presumably a confidential clause in an employee of LFC contract. As ruled in 2002 against LFC re Ziege release clause a fine was incurred for an illegal approach based on LFC knowing that information. It is plausible that the clause has been misinterpreted by non English speaking advisors. Should LFC stick to their guns over el pistolero it is possible it could go to a regulatory commission for a ruling but doubtful the ruling would be made by January let alone the close of this window. Maybe to avoid red faces and a tapping up complaint to EPL then Arsenal may have no alternative but to increase their offer. Either way he is going now or later but maybe LFC hold a few cards still to be played.

Great win today in front of 95000!!

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24 Jul 2013 22:10:49
eds is this soldado talk of bid real? getting too excited here. do you believe he's a good suarez replacement seems to bang in the goals better goals to game ratio in spain than torres had

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No, he wants to go to spurs and apparently has agreed terms!

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24 Jul 2013 22:09:19
graham hunter gulliem balague peter phillips and tony barret amd apparently this peter guy is very reliable. that soldado bid was rejected of 18.9million. Liverpool to go higher graham going to check wait for updates but Liverpool firmly expected not to meet asking price. interesting views though both hunter and ballague when adked soldado or negredo remembering what negredo went for they both said soldado straight off great signing should it come through.

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Totally disrespectfull of Liverpool to offer such a derisary (spelling) amount, his club has said 30mil no offers, pay up or shut up lfc

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24 Jul 2013 22:05:07
Hi eds
Was just wondering with the speculation surrounding soldado. Whether it is true or not, do you think it likely we will go for a player like this? I know he isn't necessarily completely immobile and not just a poacher however he also isn't really the player we seem to be targeting as he is not fluent or able to switch and play along the front line. Do you think it is possible br may be looking to bring in an older goal scorer to get us the goals to get us back into the champions league and then target a more fluid quality player (which may harder to find) to complete his system?
Thanks
Alex YNWA

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Sounds possible, though Sturridge is expected to continue scoring buttloads and be first choice striker with Aspas as back up at present. Soldado interest definitely seems genuine though so guess we'll only find out once they start playing for BR if the signing happens. Would be an excellent signing regardless.

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24 Jul 2013 21:41:26
Luis can't play for another 10 weeks which would cost lfc over 1 mill in wages, guess that's why rm are holding back so they don't have to pick up the tab! Think lfc need to come out and state a cut off point say 1st aug or no deal!

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6 weeks. He has already served 4.

Andy K

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I guess Suarez isn't paid during pre-season then?

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24 Jul 2013 22:04:03
Eds any chance of Sanchez or Pedro? Both players that would improve our squad imo {Ed052's Note - no}

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24 Jul 2013 22:02:37
Eds, you guys were very certain that 40m would be enough for Suarez.

By rejecting Arsenals bid is it rising the price? If We keep rejecting bids then surely to have a bid accepted they would have to increase.

I know you said 40-45m would be acceptable to LFC but is there any substance in that or opinion?

I have a bad feeling that stubbornness could really hinder our pre season, if the bid from Arsenal meets our asking price then why wasn't it accepted?

Is it perhaps a different price for Arsenal than perhaps Madrid?

Would appreciate an answer. :) {Ed052's Note - maybe yes. I expected 40 to be enough but it isn't so whether it is the same or different for Real I don't know. But the price will be higher than we did expect and Arsenal will bid again probably!}

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I imagine we'd accept a lower offer from RM, but won't be held to ransom.

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24 Jul 2013 22:02:22
Eds would we actually sell Suarez to Arsenal? Surely this would ruin our chances of top 4? Rather 10m less and abroad if you ask me. {Ed052's Note - I've xplained it. But he will go to RM more likely. So it won't matter. }

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Liverpool were 7th when Suarez signed and 7th when he leaves.

But I guess a selfish player who blares shots high and wide is what Arsenal need. He did well to score 30 times from 143 shots, give Borini 143 shots and he'd score more than Suarez.

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24 Jul 2013 21:59:55
I just wanna throw my 1 pound in if it makes my beloved LFC get rid of that toss pot he's a disgrace we stood by him thru thick and thin and this is how he repays our club just pack your bags and piss off I've had enough of him we all no he's quality but he has no respect watsoever pepe on the other hand THANKS A LOT gentleman but first and foremost a LEGEND u will NEVER WALK ALONE JON96

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Pepes who's flirted with Barca for how long?

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BR sorted Pepe out, and he will sort our number 7 also .
redforever
ps and expect another S for our 7 shirt .

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24 Jul 2013 21:54:13
Eds real madrid will recieve atleast 30 mil for higuain do you think they will stump up ova 40mil for suarez?
Or do you think real are going to go for bale? Thanks

Basy {Ed052's Note - yes and yes. Although not certainly this summer for Bale}

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24 Jul 2013 21:51:38
(Searched for all these players and the replies are quite dated)
Liverpool's defensive target that Brendan Rodgers mentioned seems to be a left back.
What are the situations of:
1) Ryan Bertrand
2) Danny Rose
3) Neil Taylor
4) Luke Shaw {Ed052's Note - no to all}

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24 Jul 2013 21:50:42
Aspas looking very much like another Borini

alan50 {Ed052's Note - what!!}

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Haha Ed's. Spot on.

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Haaha must be a troll
bigW

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Your right there mate both got brown hair and about 5ft 8 ins .

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Alan looking very much like another person.

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You are consistently negative Alan, I sometime wonder why you bother following at all given the obvious pain everything Liverpool puts you through.

Andy K

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Guess he means he looks like an excellent prospect.

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Alan50 your negativity is repeatedly dull.

dd

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Great news, we did need another top quality striking option.

Lets hope for Aspas sake that deluded plastics don't jump on him for not being top goal scorer.

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24 Jul 2013 21:49:35
eds do you know why coutinho wasnt playing today and do you think he will play in our next game? {Ed052's Note - a niggle. Yes}

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24 Jul 2013 21:48:09
I will be honest .
Borini showed a glimps of talent during his last ten minutes on the pitch today and Aspas scored again.
I don't think either are consitanly good and I don't believe they are Liverpool quality. however I will praise them today.

I think Ibe and Sterling were showing glimps of greatness today and I think they have the talent.

Henderson, Allen, Sterling and Ibe were superb today and all so young but our star man today was the legend that is stevie g.

Other seniors played well today.

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Lucas looked really good too when he came on
Hop

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I thought wisdom was man of the match, his reading of the game was excellent.

shanedub

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24 Jul 2013 21:47:26
With Suarez definately leaving I can't help but think we will be shafted by the owners. As it stands now we haven't spent a penny from our transfer budget.
So that's 25 million which was a quoted budget. Throw in the Suarez money your not telling me that we will spend 65-75 million before the end of the transfer window? I can see maybe three more players coming in. Left back,
Attacking midfielder and a Suarez replacement. That will only be 40-50 million tops. So the owners haven't dipped
Into their pockets at all!

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Isn't that good business?
YNWA
Jamesy

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But why buy players we don't need, maybe we won't have as much debt next year.

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I guess the 50m losses we took this year, last year and the year before we're covered by fairies?

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We have & are in the process of recruiting new players. The whole point of a business is that it provides for itself, otherwise the owner tends to come down with a touch of bankruptcy. Buy cheap, sell expensive, use profits to buy more cheap good players who will ultimately be sold on for considerably more than we paid, continuing the cycle of generating profit. That is how we come out of debt and set ourselves up as a financially sound business generating massive profits.

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24 Jul 2013 22:18:21
Considering we are losing money each year, I think it is perfectly reasonable that we make a profit in the transfer window

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Personic post. this is fantastic business.
it show's the club are in good, safe, smart hands. Unlike the cowboy's who very nearly put the club in to administration.

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All the money will not be made available. We are a business and FSG are in this to make money. We have got to start paying down the actual capital of the debt so that the interest payments also fall. {Ed052's Note - they're not in it for the money. Itll be reinvested}

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24 Jul 2013 21:40:08
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news and maybe stating the obvious but Suarez is definitely leaving.

Cheers

Macca

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Anything on targets once he leaves?

Papa G

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EPL or Europe?

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Never shoot the messenger! Just hope we get the best price we can and don't sell to a domestic rival.
If he does leave I say we vent our spleens at him and give him hell when he comes to Anfield as an opponent.
Fingers crossed we get Jackson Martinez to replace him. {Ed052's Note - no chance}

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Confirmed as the real Suarez lol

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To who though?

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Obvious quetsion but will it be to Arsenal or Madrid if you have any inclination?

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Good riddance, spoilt brat, if he goes to Madrid, fair enough, but arsenal, come on, yes, they always qualify for the champions league, but I think he's been badly advised, let him go to the gunners then in 12 months time after their annual collapse he'l be wishing he was somewhere else, the grass isn't greener etc etc, just ask Torres
Jonny 71

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Who too? And I'm glad pissed for the guy who gambled 300 hundred pound on him staying!

London red

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In a way its bad news but in another way it isn't he's a great player and I've defended him a bit on here BUT if the money from him will all go back into the team then it will make us a strong side NOT Necesaraliy stronger.i hole we sign another striker, and an attacking middfielder, and dm, i'd like to see ibe, sterling in the team/squad.and I don't think we need a cb as i'd keep skrtl.use wisdom, kelly and hopefully get cissoko on loan.id like yilmaz, diamme, and erikson/turan
bigW {Ed052's Note -

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Do you know anything about aly cissokho coming?

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24 Jul 2013 22:51:16
Macca your comments are always appreciated. You were spot on at the end of the season when you said Pepe would leave. I just Suarez goes to Real as the difference with Torres is that this ungrateful person is not yet at his peak whereas Torres was way past his. Reality Red

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24 Jul 2013 22:54:40
Thanks Macca as alwsys, it seems Arsenal have bid acceptable offer?

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24 Jul 2013 22:59:21
Writing was on the wall unfortunately. Thanks for the message Macca.

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24 Jul 2013 23:00:54
Macca thanks for the update, always appreciated!
For me it's great news. Don't want him anywhere near the club any longer

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Que cera cera! As BR said no one is bigger than the club. He had the potential to be a Liverpool legend (though no where near that yet). He was a decent player for us, but not a one man team, so we move on and carry on supporting the club we love and most of all the players who want to play for us and who may become legends (or in Stevies case a legend of the highest calibre). YNWA

Scouser Tommy

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25 Jul 2013 08:30:20
not bad news at all Macca. It would be bad if the guys talent was matched by his attitude but clearly it is not so bye bye

Gareth

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24 Jul 2013 21:38:02
Hi all
did you notice how quickly Suarez put the melbournes player's top on, he couldn't wait to take the Liverpool top off, couldn't bear to wear it. It made me laugh, it reminded me of my boy when he was younger, having a tantrum if asked to wear something he didn't want to.

As Ed02 says he is a DF, and a childish ungrateful one at that, considering there were 95,000 people there to watch him.

Dull, dull boy.

Evered

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No offence mate but silly post, he could be just making a lad who's grew up supportin us day. We know he's goin, an he acted like a brat not even smilin with that support. But that's it

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He was never worthy of the blind loyalty

it was clear this was going to happen.

the character of the man would never return the loyalty

great player of course. but let's just get decent money and buy 2 or 3 up and coming similar players

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24 Jul 2013 21:37:28
eds is Gaitan moving this summer and could u see Liverpool become interested with suarez cash thanks {Ed052's Note - Not to Liverpool, no}

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He was joining valencia but it fell through!

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24 Jul 2013 21:30:09
We proved at the end of last season we are not a one man team and in fact our best game was against Newcastle without LS. I can understand him wanting CL football so let him go to Arsenal where he will soon find out how disappointing and boring the group stages actually are and Arsenal will get bombed out as usual against a Real Madrid, bayern, barca, etc.
Also Arsenal are putting all there eggs in one basket on one player who is banned for 6 games, will be absolutely hammered by the press and fans and is likely to go lose the plot at least once next season. Also how will the black players of Arsenal react to him knowing he is has been banned for racist comments. He won't have the luxury of Lucas, Enrique, Coates for comfort around him. Take the £50m now and keep investing in young talent like sterling, Sturridge, coutinho. one other fact he's too greedy at times and arsenal play as a team so how will he fit.

Red Hip

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24 Jul 2013 21:57:23
Ed,

Wot I am thinking is who will Real Madrid buy if they do not get Bale?

They have let Higuain and Callejon go.
They were unable to sign Cavani/Falcao.
Available - Rooney, Lewandowski and Suarez.

Surely logic suggests that they would be looking for one of the available three above.

Interesting times ahead.Though I think we would be better off w/o Suarez's tantrums but his departure will definitely make our top 4 aspirations tougher.

And second is even if we are not looking at a number 9, we may well have to look for a false 9 at the least.

Options available to us - Damiao, Solgado, Martinez.

Any other options? {Ed052's Note - they won't worry too much if they don't get Bale as they will probably keep Ronaldo then so it's not too much of a problem. Then theycan get Luis who will replace the Hig}

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But Ed I have a question here.

Arsenal have bid 40 mil for Suarez which Liverpool have not accepted but allowed Suarez to talk to Arsenal.

But Arsenal's need is greater here. They are in a corner and may very well have to go all the way now. Thereby if Liverpool demand 50 mil they are high chances that Arsenal can't backtrack now, especially with Real Madrid with only one recognised striker now

Liverpool are in a situation where they have "A BIRD IN THE HAND" but for Arsenal/Madrid they are hoping they have "TWO IN THE BUSH".

But the bird is a thankless one. {Ed052's Note - you make a fair point}

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Just off the fone, our number 7 will be gone by sunday, and two maybe three players in, soon after that,
redforever

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Excellent! Uglygeordiegenius

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24 Jul 2013 21:25:55
Hi Ed's.

Because Arsenal bid the extra one pound. Doesn't it make it obvious they knew about the so called clause?

I've seen suggestions that this would make it an illegal approach? Any truth?

Pug. {Ed001's Note - no truth to that, it has been speculated in the media for a while, so we could in no way prove any wrong doing.}

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If its in his contract then his agent can inform clubs. It is NOT a release clause where we have to sell a penny over 40m though.

If Lpool demand 80m then its upto Lpool end off.

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Yes, but would Arsenal make a bid on a player they really want based on media speculation? And such a 'cheeky' one too.

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Well, they did, Rik.

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24 Jul 2013 21:25:21
And away from Liverpool, did Falcao lie about his age on his birth certificate? It's what I've heard but don't really know anyone itk have you heard the same? {Ed052's Note - Its just a rumour. I doub't it}

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Wasnt there a similar thing with Seydou Doumbia? I can't remember the details but there certainly strange stories!

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24 Jul 2013 21:23:19
Eds what's Arsenals wage cap if I remember correctly they have one in place around £150,000 in which place why do Suarez and his agent need to talk so much the wages aren't going to be increased that much and champions league not guaranteed what is the big draw? {Ed052's Note - I'm not sure he is too fussed on wages}

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24 Jul 2013 21:20:30
Just seen the highlights from the game earlier and I have say Suarez's body language and face was of man not happy to play for Liverpool no more! I can't even hack that! After all the faith and support he can't even break a smile when in front of the fans in sell out stadium when he set Apsas, definitely a changed man! Get him out the prem and be done with!

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Not really surprised he looked tired and disinterested when all he has excercised lately is his mouth. How anyone could fail to be moved by that display in the stadium is beyond me. Suarez should try keeping his trap shut before he loses even the residual affection we might have for him. £55M or forget it, would the mancs sell a player directly to their rivals? No, so why would we be so stupid? Get him out if the prem if he doesn't care for the love and support the club gave him.

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I can't remember a player that has had so much support be so disrespectful to his club! No dignity which has obviously upset us all! Not looking forward to hearing what he says after he leaves. It will be either utter BS or something to upset us further! Just my opinion but I would be utterly gutted and dissapointed if we sell him to Arsenal as this would show complete weakness in my eyes! I have faith in Rodgers and the team but he has to leave the prem!

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24 Jul 2013 21:19:59
Has cissoko deal completed yet {Ed052's Note - nope}

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Sign me up Ed052. Ill always support you.
BarryinLouth {Ed052's Note - thanks. But no ones made a page yet. I can't make one for myself!!}

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24 Jul 2013 21:08:32
{Ed052's Note - So Red Branch wants an Ed052 Appreciation Society, I think its a good idea, does anybody want to do it? ;) }

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24 Jul 2013 21:07:04
Eds Who Will We Sign In Place Of Suarez Not Saying Replacment But Any Interest In Other Strikers Plus CB Who Is Most Likely To come

Cheerrs
GAM# {Ed052's Note - I answer this loads. I am not too sure, and don't expect an out an out striker. Probably a CAM or left winger. And I think a CB could come in. Ilori is a little expensive, like Papa}

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Buy a lw play coutinho as am and we have sturridge for cf. {Ed052's Note - I agree}

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24 Jul 2013 21:05:15
Hi Eds

Small foot note on the possible Suarez to Arsenal transfer, how big a deal is it that Arsenal haven't actually qualified for the Champions League yet, if i'm not mistaken they could still face PSV Eindhoven, Zenit St Petersburg Fenerbache or Lyon or sociadad, and won't actually be able to guarantee Champs league till late August. {Ed052's Note - I don't think its a huge problem, and won't stop players going there}

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If its £50 million there getting closer give it til the end of the weekend and the price will be about right £52/£55 million Focking have him, but it a lot for only 25 games a season .

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25 games?
The Prem has 38, he's missing 6, that's more than 25 before any other competitions?!

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24 Jul 2013 20:55:55
Enrique or cissokho for LB next season?

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Enrique will start the season as first choice but there's likely to be some rotation anyways. The future depends on form, as always.

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Aly I think will get place but not until he gets used to the pace of the premiership

Gareth

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24 Jul 2013 20:55:13
Given the price Suarez is going to cost the Gunners I think they would have been better off going for Rooney and Dzeko?
Or even Rooney and Benteke? They could get rid of one of their strikers to. Seems a bit of a crazy way of Wenger to go for me.

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24 Jul 2013 21:16:46
Wenger is very, very smart, he sold RVP to united for 25-27M(a 29 years old) he knows we will be threat to them next year so getting Suarez who is world class & hamppering our chances of top4 means one challange less, it will be straight fight with spurs or even finish above united who just hired moyes or even go straight for league title knowing most of his rivals have appointed new managers only Mourinho being exceptional, after 2 years he will sell suarez for decent prize as he always does!

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24 Jul 2013 20:48:20
Eds, is it true Liverpool have had a bid rejected for soldado? {Ed052's Note - As far as I am aware, no}

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24 Jul 2013 20:46:07
How will he force a move ed052? {Ed052's Note - LS wants his £2m bonus for not handing in a TR. Liverpool want to keep that £2m. So, after a bit of too-ing and fro-ing, LS will no doubt say, expect offer X, and you can keep your bonus money - but he won't hand in a TR. Does that make sense}

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Expect offer X or Accept offer X? {Ed052's Note - accept, that's what I meant, sorry! With all these replies, touch typing can go a bit off sometimes!}

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Thanks for your answers Ed052,
It really is much appreciated! Respect
AL {Ed052's Note - No problem, talking of appreciation... :P}

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Smart ass no name poster. :0(

Phooey. {Ed052's Note - Its fine, I made a mistake which might confuse people]

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I really was not trying to be smart, it was a bit confusing!
AL {Ed052's Note - I know bud}

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24 Jul 2013 20:36:08
Hi Eds,

Can we not just stick Luis on the transfer list for 45 million and have done?

Marc {Ed052's Note - it doesn't quite work like that. Life is never so simple. Don't worry, it'll be over soon}

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You seem sure enough ed that something is about to happen do you know something? Bet you do. {Ed052's Note - No mate, but all parties involved want it done with soon enough. LS will speak to Arsenal, then they will decide what to do. Then it will hopefully solve the LS and Liverpool row, and, then, should be done.}

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24 Jul 2013 20:33:10
For those that haven't seen the Aussies singing YNWA at Melbourne earlier today it's on this link. Attendance was 95, 556 and it is awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDCiNGYfhPY

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Outstanding! Thanks for that. And I moan that I'm tired after my regular round trip from Edinburgh to Anfield! Sometimes you just don't realise how lucky you are!

Coyle's Law states.

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24 Jul 2013 20:26:25
Well done to our Australian reds. Emotional & spine tingling.
Makes me a very proud red.

JW Henry take a bow re twitter comment.

Jimbob

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Just heard the YNWA, amazing! Something tells me we need to ramp up Anfield though, we've become quieter over the years?

RedLee

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24 Jul 2013 20:24:38
Am I the only one who wants to see suarez leave now. He doesn't appreciate how the fans, players and management stuck by him. He doesn't deserve our support. He talks about english press being the problem, now he wants to move closer to them ( london). Treated us like persons and he obviously has no respect for our great club. Move him on and get some other players in who respect our fantastic club!
D.Agger!

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Judging by the posts, I think there are fair amount that want him out as soon as possible, to include me.

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24 Jul 2013 20:22:43
If we sell Suarez, I'd like Adra Turan to replace him! I know it's not a direct replacement but I believe with Sturridge, Aspas and Borini up top I'd personally be quite happy! I feel there is plenty of goals to come from midfield this year (except Lucas lol) Something we haven't had for a long time!

Rodgers is a manager, who I feel, will make smart decisions with a huge amount of money!

Not a rumour just an opinion!
Thanks

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Who from in Mid, mate?
Henderson, Allen, Alberto, Gerrard, Downing?

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They will all chip in at some point, plus Coutinho, Sterling and if we signed Arda Turan like I was wishing! Not too bad is it?

Only my opinion bud, I maybe wrong I maybe right!

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24 Jul 2013 20:21:50
Common guys to much focus on transfers what about the potential of our future already ibe looks a beast. for me I'd rather pay some older class player a high wage and blood the youngsters in (someone who you can trust). What's everyone else's thoughts.

The best thing we can hope for is a good start rather than some big signing.

Faith.

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You mean someone like Downing?

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24 Jul 2013 20:21:06
According to reports coming out of spain, Madrid are focused on getting bale and not suatrz {Ed052's Note - They want both}

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They're definitely looking at getting both with Higuain gone and Barca adding Neymar.

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24 Jul 2013 20:14:03
There's no way on gods green grass of Anfield that Suarez will choose Arsenal.

I reckon the whining Wenger is deliberately bidding for Suarez to rock the boat simply to get his own back on BR and Liverpools so called interest in Walcott last summer.

Wengers signing Higuain yeah right sure he is that's why he's in Napoli with Pepe signing on the dotted line. Wenger is all garlic breath and wind, Arsenal are on the slide all the top players no it they haven't won anything for over 8yrs.

If Suarez wants to play in the CL then he's more chance of joining Celtic and getting further in the completion than Arsenal are.

Suarez will sign for either two teams Real or Bayern that's it!

Curled1

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Do you honestly think Arsenal would keep bidding and wasting their time if they weren't pretty sure via Pere that Suarez was interested in the move?

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"There's no way on gods green grass of Anfield that Suarez will choose Arsenal."

Don't be so sure mate, who thought Torres would go to Chelsea?

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Arsenal have bid twice, and you think it's a smokescreen or a revenge bid?

The real AG

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24 Jul 2013 20:12:37
Eds. Just a quick one like to wish pepe Reina all the best at Napoli I think will all agree a top keeper and any more news on cisseko coming in on loan ynwa reddave {Ed052's Note - Nothing, its possible tho, but we don't know of a bid}

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Good luck Pepe. All the best
You are a gentleman - respect

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24 Jul 2013 20:07:41
If they are interested I'd sell LS to Man City rather than Arsenal. Really think Arsenal have shown massive disrespect to Liverpool with their last bid and we should avoid adding strength to them!

RedLee {Ed052's Note - How was it disrepesctful? Arsenal wanted to speak to LS, and LS to Arsenal. So why bid more than you have to? Well, I guess they bid 99p too much!}

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Why do you think they bid too much? {Ed052's Note - ?}

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The bid is blatantly trying to bully and belittle Liverpool.

I'm all for selling him but that bid lacks class (asdid their pervious bids) and I'd rather sell him for a pound less to any other club than Arsenal and if we don't get the offers then we should keep him!

Arsenal deserve a swift kick in the pants and I hope we are big enough and stand our ground.

RedLee

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Ah good one ed052, they did bid 99p to much after all a {Ed052's Note - poor Wenger could have got an ice cream for that much!}

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I agree, it was disrespectful, him going to Arsenal would be the worst outcome.

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If we offered £0.01 for a contracted players without release clauses would this be acceptable?


The bids a joke and no self respecting Liverpool fan would see a public bid of this nature as anything other than insulting.

RedLee {Ed052's Note - Why is it a joke bid. Offering 1p would be a joke, but offering 40m isn't a joke. They offered the £1 to activate the clause. Why bid an extra million, or two, when a quid does it?}

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Arsenal wanted to speak to Suarez.

If they can do that and both parties feel it is a good idea then Arsenal will come back with an acceptable bid.

Otherwise they won't.

The initial bid is a technicality.

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In my opinion it a disrespectful.

Ok if the knew the clause was £40 mil, then why the reported 1st or 2nd offer (under 40 mil)??

And the the last bid just over the release clause, which smack of us being publicly worked over, it's a discrase which I hope has had insult to injury to the powers that be.

I 100% hope you off the mark as I, surprised you seem happy to be shafted so easily on this one.

RedLee {Ed052's Note - They offered under 40m to see if Liverpool would accept it. Why is it a disgrace that it was just above the release clause. You keep saying that, but giving no reasons for it.}

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No I keep saying, if they wanted to break the release clause by a £1 the why the first 2 bids?

They have tried it on, failed (below the £40mil) and entered a piss take bid to release the contractual clause).

If as you say they offered 9 too much as they knew the deal why take the piss with the first 2?

So it's a piss take 1) given their first bids 2) that's it's been made public

I understand Liverpool want to sell, Suarez wants to go etc but this entire situation with Arsenal has been a disgrace.

If you disagree fine but don't tell me arsenal ( a club I've actually always respected) have come out of this showing any class in the transfer market. {Ed052's Note - At first, they bid lower to see if they could pick him up on a cheap. Liverpool rejected, so their second bid was above the clause, so that it was activated. A lower opening bid is usual practise. Arsenal have only made 2 offers, I think you think they have made more. Does that make sense, do you see where I am coming from?}

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I do see where you're coming ED but we are being played big time.

I really hope City and Rm come in soon.

Maybe we should agree to disagree, I respect your views and information but can't agree on this one mate.

RedLee

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24 Jul 2013 20:07:24
suarez to hand in formal transfer request to force arsenal move {Ed052's Note - That's not how he will force a move}

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Wouldn't mean a transfer to Arsenal if we didn't want it.

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24 Jul 2013 20:05:09
These are just my thoughts on LS. Absolute fantastic footballer without a doubt. Alas not without his issues, mast that have followed him with any club he has played for and no doubt will in the future. But let's just get one thing straight here.

Liverpool Football Club has been around since 1892 and has seen many a world class player come and go, some of their own choice some being the clubs. As much as I have enjoyed seeing LS over the last couple of years I have equally been frustrated by him. Yet for me ANY player who wants to leave let them go, I'm not bothered how good, bad or indifferent they are. MY club will continue to survive and will bounce back regardless.

I have seen many a recent post state how we make/develop star players, Keegan, Heighway, Terry Mc, KK, Whelan, God, Owen, Torres Stevie G, to name a few, Its true, LFC make these players and will continue to do so, so if LS wants to go, then bye, see ya! Go to the arse, really are they going to win things? ask RVP or Cesc, I doubt it. See if they support him the way we do, sorry did. If I was LS I would ask FT if he recieved the same sort of support at Chelski, I doubt it!

Give BR some additional funds and see were we go, no one know's but we all care. I believe BR is setting the footings for a bright future and hopefully extra cash will help with that, and you know what? if it takes a while, if we have to take a step backwards it will be worth the wait, because its Liverpool Football Club, its us the fans, it's our BIRD and our passion! T-Mac

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Arsenal have always supported their players through thick and thin, ask rvp who backed him and fought his corner when he was accused of rape, or certain players not getting sacked but getting help with their alcohol addiction or letting a certain player keep the 4mil transfer fee when we sold him because he was going through a divorce and his wife was getting almost everything, arsenal are a massive club with a fantastic history and are renouned for doing things the arsenal (right)way.we have been around longer than Liverpool by the way, we have a fantastic stadium and fill it every week, and now that the dept is under control we are ready to spend big and challenge the moneybags teams for trophies again, unfortunatly lfc can't say the same, just ask LS

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Meh, Arsenal are OK but they are a long way short if being as big as LFC.

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I think you will find you don't fill it every week and some your so called fantastic support leaves the ground early every home game, more when you are losing by the way.

If as you say are ready to spend big why then are you submitting below par bids for your two main targets? really, big club my arse, you judge success on CL qualifaction and that's it! your happy to finish in the top 4 and happy to back a manager who supports this. In the last 9 season's you have won NOTHING, we have been awful, but in that time won a CL, FA and C.Cup as well as appearing in at least two other cup finals. and don't give me the new ground rubbish, you are supposedly meant to have a couple of the richest owners in the league yet still don't spend! Enjoy your time in the "sun" as it's coming to an end! T-Mac

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24 Jul 2013 20:03:46
ED052

that was your best reply ever. You literally shut the whole west london. heh he. {Ed052's Note - Which reply? I am quite a funny bloke, you know. }

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I guess it was.

{Ed052's Note - Arsenal have no chance, no chance, with or without LS of winning the league. NO CHANCE}

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24 Jul 2013 20:41:27
the one you gave to the guunerssssss.
are we rival?. yes bloody we are you rival.
I was about to opening my mouth. but u made my day.

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Have you got an appreciation club ed52? because you should. {Ed052's Note - Why thanks. Would anybody like to start one?}

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Unfortunately i'm not great with computers might as well be the enigma machine :) but you've got my vote {Ed052's Note - YEY!}

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24 Jul 2013 19:57:59
Hi eds!

Since we lost out on HM there hasn't been to much activity, we were willing to spend 20+m for him without selling Suarez, so we no we have that money available, isit just a case if the club not being able to find a player that they want? Cheets {Ed052's Note - We will try to sort out the LS situation first}

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Dont u think the club should be trying to find someone for the starting line up even if suarez stays? because he's banned for the first 6 and sturridge isn't gunna be match fit for stoke either {Ed052's Note - We wont buy a player for 6 matches}

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24 Jul 2013 19:57:37
Jst watched the melbourne remendition of ynwa on youtube WOW! just goes to show how massive our club is throughout the world. maybe Ian ayre should show this to our transfer targets and then ask them if they would ever experience anything like that at tottenham or any other club worldwide for that matter. Man u and real madrid could maybe draw the same crowd numbers but even they could only dream of an atmosphere like that. surely after being part of that Luis suarez should realise that joining arsenal would be a step backwards in terms of club prestige CL or not. could he really turn his back on that for the sake of just another 12 months without CL football?

Legohead

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A footballers prime can be quite short, 12 months is a long time in football

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He's got a good 8 years in him though as although he's not slow he doesn't rely on pace just extraordinary inteligence (on the pitch anyway) and great technique with the ball at his feet

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24 Jul 2013 19:54:54
Not transfer related, which would be a bit of fresh air for the ed's but does anyone know the line up for:
glentoran vs Liverpool u21

FowlerGod.

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I am afraid Jones is not a good enough back up keeper. He is weak and fragile and prone to mistakes. His communication is poor as is his command of his area. We need a quality back up. Don't know about Ward but someone like Given or Al Habsi would be my choice.

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24 Jul 2013 19:54:08
{Ed052's Note - Jones was superb last year as an understudy. Didn't make too many costly mistakes (1 or 2 at the most). Why replace him?}

Thanks for the reply ed! You are right, but in how many of those games did he almost make costly mistakes. His handling just isn't good, looks like a 15 year old fumbling his first bra!

If tomorrow we lost mignolet for the season, would you really be happy with Jones?. because it could happen. I'm pretty sure BR would be straight out into the market to replace him.

Anyway I just wanted to get a discussion going over over something other than Suarez's wistful gazes over the MCG pitch. Thanks for your views. {Ed052's Note - I trust Jones enough, yes}

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I think jones has been ok to but could he push to be number 1, no! Which means SM could become complacent (human nature, not knocking him). The focus for me shouldd be a really strong younger keeper, is ward good enough to challenge in the next few years?

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Rather have young Danny Ward than Brad Jones, Jones makes me nervous everytime I watch him! Ward has the potential to become a Top keeper just hope he done turn out to be like Carson or Kirkland good prospects but never quiet hit the heights that was required of them. {Ed052's Note - Ward is very good}

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Good point actually. I've happy with Jones as 2nd choice as he's good enough for that role, but not good enough to push Migs to better form if, for some reason, it dipped. However, Ward really does look very good so perhaps he can pressurise over the next 2 or 3 seasons as well. Concerned at the lack of quality young keepers we have though. Mersin always seemed like he would come through but the club are looking to get rid now. Gulacsi, Stephens and Belford failed to deliver on early promise too. And, going back a bit, the same happened with Bouzanis and Hansen. Could be that we need to look at the goalkeeping coaching we have in place throughout the youth teams.

-Nibbits

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Could we not call pepe back from his loan deal?

Phooey {Ed052's Note - I don't know the contract situation}

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24 Jul 2013 19:53:10
With all this talk about no7, don't think ibe has got the credit or Alberto with there play both different but look very good very young think we could have two players who could smiles on faces if given time and not a lot of pressure and the other new signings look good the squad looks stronger by a mile my only concern s are full backs both are up and down for me one game great the next so/so Glenn Johnson think we should put Martin Kelly there! Not 100% on that but just think we need a bit more then wot GJ gives us not a dig at him and left back don't know wot the best thing because don't want to change all the defence for new season so glad it's not me doing it only on my ps3 FIFA ha
Ynwa lfc linc

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24 Jul 2013 19:51:46
I think we are in a great position with respect to Suarez. Arsenal clearly need to buy much more than we need to sell, and with Real Madrid lurking I think this could all end in tears for them. With terms apparent ly avreed with RM hopefully the transfer won't be drawn out as we will need time to replace him. Eds surely the backroom staff and Rodgers will have identified players to replace Suarez if this scenario were to arise? Thanks Neel

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24 Jul 2013 19:45:46
Please Rodgers and fsg buy alonso and turan keep luis Suarez and challenge for top 4 next season
Jeff {Ed052's Note - Stop sending in the same post}

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I sent it twice by mistake relax ;) would u like turan alonso and keep Suarez anyway ed 052
Jeff {Ed052's Note - No problem, and I'd love those two, but not LS anymore}

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Alonso is staying in Madrid. We're not looking at getting another CM. Not bothered who we get in for attack though - if BR deems them good enough then i'll happily give them a chance to impress. Previously thought Borini could be the big surprise this year, but now looking like Sterling and Alberto could be in for big seasons. Ignore Suarez. Look at the rest of te great talent we have and enjoy it!

-Nibbits

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24 Jul 2013 19:39:07
This sounds like a wind up but my cousin from the blue half of Manchester, who knocks about with some of the City players and who told me about Man City enquired for Lamala (which was confirmed by ed 052 I think) has said that City are going to be making a bid for Suarez in the next few days. If this is true that's just not fair they are like the Harlem Globetrotters of football. Can any of the eds confirm or refute City's interest in Hannibal Lector? {Ed052's Note - They had rumoured interest in him, I think, or maybe confirmed, I cant keep up at the minute. In other words, yes, its possible I guess}

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To be honest I would rather he go to City, than Arsenal.Plus we know we can get closer to the 55million Cavani went for.If it becomes a three way dance.We all know he's going, so let's hope we get top dollar.

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"I can't keep up at the minute. In other words, yes, its possible I guess"

That's what I say after too many bevvies.

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I believe its both Manchester clubs but city are preparing a bid whilst United are trying to sort out the Rooney saga first.
United only interesed if they need to sell Rooney however I highly doubt Liverpool would ever sell to them.

My best bet however would be Suarez to either R Madrid or PSG. I can't see him at another EPL club.

Another interesting one is Rodgers like Torres and Mourinho doesnt.
Maybe a sneeky 15 to 20m offer there.

But yes United are intrigued with the whole Suarez saga {Ed052's Note - UTD don't want CR, or LS. Whats a sneaky bid?}

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RM have a long-standing interest in Aguero. Suarez a possibility if Aguero moves to Madrid I suppose.

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Man Utd would not waste their time bidding because they know we won't sell to them.

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24 Jul 2013 19:31:41
Eds I know you don't enjoy talking money, but do you have any idea of how much Rodgers is holding out for in order to release Suarez? I'm aware of the alleged 40mil buy out, but I know it's going to take a lot more than that to let go of him. Judging by his body language he clearly hates being in that red shirt and I hate that he is in one because he doesn't deserve to play for Liverpool no matter how many goals he scored last season. Can't wait to get rid of him and get someone in who will show some respect to the great club they're representing. Suarez is all talent and no brains and I don't think we need him anymore anyway {Ed052's Note - I believe 40, but it'll be more, and we'll get more too.}

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24 Jul 2013 19:28:14
Just watched Aussie reds rendition of YNWA at the MCG in Melbourne. Goosebumps, simply amazing, it warms my heart to see the reception our club has had in Indonesia and Australia. If the tour continues with more support like this the squad will be pumped for the start of the season.

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They will be pumped until the first game kicks off at anfield

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My Nephew who was born over there came to Liverpool to visit his gran when he was 12, 14 yrs ago. And I took him to watch the reds and bought him his first top.He was hooked from that day on and I actually spotted him in the crowd singing his heart out today.I am proud too see him and the rest of the Aussie fans being so vocal, Good on ya Cobber.

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Ive just watched it too.
absolutely f***ing amazing
well done the aussie kopites that was awesome.
made me proud and as stated previously mufc and the rest just don't compare to lfc fans where ever they may be - the best fans in the world bar none
LS it doesn't get better than being idolised by lfc from any corner of the world and if that doesn't make you realise you are at the best club in the world you are more of an person than I thought
congrats once again to the aussies they did us proud YNWA

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24 Jul 2013 19:25:52
If he wants to go let him go. Business is business, get as much as we can for him and wish him well.

Brendan is a smart man, for all he says in the press, he'll sure as hell have an idea of where that possible £40-50mil will be reinvested.

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24 Jul 2013 19:21:43
I just wish we would get rid of Suarez now! 45-50 million asap to the highest bidder! We can get 2-3 more top class players for that price.no player is bigger than then club! Players will always come and go.let him leave :D

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Froggy31, could you name the two or three top class players we could get. Because once you sell your top players it makes it more difficult to bring in more .and being fair if Luis goes the only big big players left at LFC is Stevie 33 and Danny agger 27 . There are players for the future that could be stars but not yet .so be careful what you wish for .

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Think you speak for a lot of fans there mate, you certainly speak for me. I just hope Madrid get their act together and make a proper bid we can accept, I'm resigned to Suarez leaving and I think it will benefit the team massively when he goes but not to an English side. Stating the obvious I know but 40-50 million to invest in the side would be fantastic.

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Suarez is a Liverpool player. To be fair he wants champions league football and should Liverpool keep him this season then there's a chance we will qualify for the champions league and keep him.

Suarez leaving would be upsetting the then we replaced keegan with Dalglish and we replaced Torres with Suarez. Heads up guys

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24 Jul 2013 19:16:06
Just to turn away from Suarez, what does everyone think about the deal with Assiadi. Why did we sign him and never play him? It was a window in which Rodgers preffered to sign players he had worked with to ease in to the job. I saw it suggested before that Assiadi was not a ROdgers signing, interesting. Maybe he just had a bad attitude though.

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Robbie Keane
Christian Poulson
Paul Konchesky

Some signings are mistakes and not fit to wear the shirt.

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24 Jul 2013 19:14:08
Apologies for another Suarez post, but i'm a little confused by some of the things people have been saying. Why is selling Suarez an issue? Even if we sold him to Arsenal that does not guarantee they will finish above us. Even with RVP they didn't win anything, and his conversion rate is better than Suarez, in fact for the most part of his last season there he scored more goals on his own than LFC scored combined!

Although he was one of the top scorers in the EPL last season we still finished 7th, and he caused us a lot of issues along the way, we need a striker who is going to be available most of the time, not just for 2/3 of the season. I appreciate that he is a world class striker, but his conversion rate is poor, and he seems to forget that there are 9 other outfield players at times. At the end of the day i'd rather have a whole team that makes goals happen, not just one player, and the money we would get from him could bring us 2 or 3 players who can not only provide but create more goals from the midfield.

People seem to forget that we have Sturridge, who had a blinding start to the season, in fact, even with Suarez our season looked bleak until we signed him and Coutinho. How do we know already that between him and Aspas we will not score as many goals as we did last season?

Suarez is up there with Falcao, Cavani, Ibra type players, we will not be able to replace him, but he doesn't need a direct replacement, how many players in the EPL are as gifted as Suarez? RVP has scored more goals than him, but does not have the same skill, he has the players behind him to create chances. With a few additions to the midfield we could be creating the same chances for Aspas and Sturridge who will be able to do the job just as well as Luis, only probably with a better conversion rate.

It's almost as if some of you guys think FSG and Brendan WANT our club to fail? Every top player has to start somewhere, Brendan works with the squad a lot more than any of us do, and by our interest in Mickey, clearly we are looking to spend money on the squad.

I really don't think we have anything to worry about, whether Suarez stays or goes, I don't think it will have much impact on our season. I'd rather have an 11 man team than a 10 + 1 team.

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Whether they sign him or not I guarentee they will finish above us anyway. But if Suarez does sign it will doubly confirm it. We are not as good as they are and anyone who thinks we are, are well. delusional.

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When RVP was there they didn't have Cazorla, Giroud and Podolski. In fact they were very thick as a team, that's why RVP left.
If they add Suarez this year they will be a major force, in fact I see them finishing above United(as I believe they will drop 2-3 positions).
Please don't post half facts when you want to make a point.

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We are not as good as Arsenal? Crap. We are as good as anyone in the premiership on our day. What we are not good at is consistency.

If we achieve consistency we will vie for top 4.

The gooners could only wish for a reception like LFC received in Melbourne. That makes the "less" than us too.

Two very different clubs. They have CL next year and still have trouble attracting the "big" names.

Delusional, I don't think so

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So you say that the Arsenal weren't all that good until they sold RVP and replaced him with Cazorla, Giroud and Podolski. So we sell Suarez and buy 3 quality players to fill out the first team.

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No what I say is that if they had RVP in that mix with Cazorla, Giroud and Podolski they would have been far stronger than just having RVP only.

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24 Jul 2013 19:13:37
eds, any news of Eriksen in the last 24 hours?

Could you see us making a move when pepe moves in order to free up the wage budget etc. {Ed052's Note - nothing. No}

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24 Jul 2013 19:12:48
I love Liverpool football club . 90 thousand fans singing you'll never walk alone just proves that Luis Suarez is just a very small part of our history . Very good player but in 10 years time who will you remember more Robbie fowler or Luis Suarez? I watched a programme that Clarke carlise was doing the other week and there was something he said which stood out he said " in my experience the best teams are the ones where everyone is pulling in the same direction " .
Football clubs make footballers not the other way round .
YNWA
Jamesy

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Well said
Ynwa lfc linc

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Top post Jamesy! Uglygeordiegenius

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Watching the Melbourne fans made me realise how much more I LOVE LFC than I LIKE Luis Suarez. Not only is he ungrateful, but he is deluded.

I've been watching my 'wee' team this week too - hometown heroes Cliftonville. They've had their wee moment in the Champions League and now it's gone, finito! What is the big deal? Surely there is more to Luis than wanting that? Is he that shallow that that us ALL he aspires to?

If I was a professional footballer, I'd rather be part of actually re-making some history with Liverpool than joining also-rans

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24 Jul 2013 19:11:26
Reports from Spain are saying that real madrid are using the money from the Higuain sale to make a 70 million pound bid for bale and are ending their pursuit of Luis Suarez {Ed052's Note - If they get Bale, it will be with the money from Ronaldo being sold to Manchester}

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24 Jul 2013 19:22:21
I like the way you didn't state which club in Manchester. {Ed052's Note - City have bid}

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In that case they won't get Bale, there's no way Ronaldo is going to OT. If you're wondering why think about it eh? {Ed052's Note - I didn't say Ronaldo would go to OT}

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Really don't understand if its a northern thing but down here in london its common knowledge that bale isn't going anywhere!

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Do you know how much Ed? Could it happen!

Thanks! {Ed052's Note - I don't and I don't lol. They are interested at the right price}

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Just shows that knowledge isn't really that common down there then.

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I would think ronaldo either signs a new contract this summer or Real would have to look into selling him. Can't imagine a club would let an asset like that run into his last year and there aren't many clubs that could afford him. It's interesting because if he were to go Bale would have to be the logical replacement.

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24 Jul 2013 20:40:23
As a fan of football it would be a shame if Bale only went to RM to replace CR. Bale, Suarez and Ronaldo really would put on a show

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24 Jul 2013 19:02:40
Hello all, quick question. any news on what's going on with Spearing? he has to go. surely? anybody currently interested in taking him off our hands? {Ed052's Note - He will go, hopefully, although he may turn down the teams who make an offer. Perhaps another loan?

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The lad really he believes he's as good has any Premiership midfielder and wants the chance to prove it.He is world class and I honestly don't know why Barcelona hasn't put a 60 million offer in for him yet, apparently Jay his also amazed no one can see the quality he possesses.

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That's a little unfair on the lad. He may not be quite good enough for us but I'm pretty sure he could do a good job for one of the promoted teams.

MUSHROOM

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Bolton, Blackpool and Wigan both looking at him.don't rule out Blackburn either despite turning them down recently.

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Thanks Andy, good to know mate

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I actually really like Spearing, although admittedly he's not really what we need. If only we could bottle his enthusiasm for the club and give it to certain wantaway strikers.

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24 Jul 2013 19:00:52
Anyone else see suarez face today?
He clearly doesn't wanna be at the club. We don't want another sulky striker
Martynlfc

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24 Jul 2013 19:00:14
A big thank you to all the Ed's for your info.
Fellow supporters, chin up.
I personally want Suarez to leave - he has shown too much disrespect towards our club.
We only want players who want to be here.
Sturridge will really flourish this season.
Borini & Aspas have ability - let's get behind them.
Give our younger players a chance before slating them.
Stranger things have happened.
Have faith.
YNWA. {Ed052's Note - No problem!}

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What if he signs for Arsenal and they win the Premier with Suarez in a starring role.
A likely scenario in my opinion if he signs for the gooners. {Ed052's Note - Arsenal have no chance, no chance, with or without LS of winning the league. NO CHANCE}

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Would you rather have a disrespectful player (regardless of his talent) at our club, always anxious not knowing when he's going to pull something stupid out of the hat again (bans, etc).
We only want players who want to be here.
Who's to say that Sturridge, Aspas, Borini can't fire them in for us.
You never know.
Going to Arsenal does not necessarily guarantee them a higher position than us.
Have faith.
We do not need Suarez.
We are more than capable of finishing higher up the table without him.
Remember, we are LFC.
YNWA.

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Or, alternatively, Arsenal spend so much on Suarez they can't afford to improve the team much beyond him. He sits out until mid-September and they start off shaky including a home loss to Spurs. Suarez comes in the side and manages to annoy Girroud (who now sits more than plays) and Walcott as he's pushed wide and he won't pass to them anyway. After his 1100th unsuccessful nutmeg attempt, 900th dive, and 2000th shot on goal Suarez gets frustrated in February and punches an opposition player and is banned for the rest of the season (although managed to score 20 in the process). Arsenal still finish 6th anyway.

Just as plausible as them winning the league. Point is no one knows what would happen if Suarez goes to Arsenal. It could be good it could be bad and frankly I don't care as I'm not worried about how Arsenal do or don't perform. I worry about LFC- we have no control over the opposition and Arsenal are going to strengthen at striker one way or the other. It almost feels like people seem to think if they don't get Suarez they're seemingly not going to sign anyone else? Arsenal will score goals with or without Suarez. We will score goals with or without Suarez. He's really not the end all be all of footballing.

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24 Jul 2013 18:57:42
Guyz Pepe Reina has just passed his medical.

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24 Jul 2013 18:52:21
Ed, is it just straight between Madrid and Arsenal for Suarez, just wondering because I know you mentioned 5 clubs interested that could afford him, for example Bayern Munich. Thanks. {Ed052's Note - at the minute yes, I don't see other coming in for him}

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Cheers Ed {Ed052's Note - pas de probleme mon amie}

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24 Jul 2013 18:47:15
Hey Ed, do u think Arsenal will go so far that they will pay 50 million pounds for suarez? {Ed052's Note - I cant say how much they will bid, but they will probably bid again, no doubt after speaking to LS. Until LS and Liverpool sort their mess out, then I don't see him leaving, unless RM come in for him in that time; which is possible, unless they wait}

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24 Jul 2013 18:35:43
I know this has already been asked, but I couldn't seem to get much from the answer, have Liverpool had a bid accepted for eriksen and in talks with the player, or are we just in talks?
Cheers. {Ed052's Note - no, and no}

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24 Jul 2013 18:29:05
Higuan to napoli, suarez to madrid. Unlucky arsenal! Hope we sign soldaldo although unlikely just can't see sturridge and borini getting up champions league, I think aspas will be used on wings with sturridge up top, YNWA

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24 Jul 2013 18:25:16
There are some posters on here who will be eating their word if Suarez stays, knocks in 30 this season and helps us to get in CL, stays and we go on to do well?

Hopefully we will improve whatever happens but if Suarez needs nudging in any direction, most of these posters will have our best player gone.

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U see his face today? Just sulked

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I'm guessing you haven't seen the game today? His reaction after setting up the goal was a disgrace.The world and LFC does not revolve around Luis Suarez.

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24 Jul 2013 17:52:00
What a great tweet today from mr Henry, I thought it showed arsenal that we ain't for being seen off. Well done Mr Henry thanks for having a pair of balls.
No idea why eds thought it was wrong I didn't see a problem with it. {Ed052's Note - Because it is a bit offensive. I don't let posts through saying that, its not kind}

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Business isn't kind. Kindness won't get us anywhere.

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I'll tell you why the Eds thought it was wrong. Because they want Suarez out of the club and they expected Henry to say "Oh yes our great rivals have him for 40m, it is a fair amount". We are lucky you don't run the club.
Henry was offensive because Arsenal was offensive. And his reply was just about right. Best answer I've seen from an owner in years. {Ed052's Note - Look, if someone said what JWH said to me, I wouldn't be too happy. I want LS gone, like a lot of people, but that's not why I disagree with what JWH said. And, if you think that bid from Arsenal was offensive, then thats silly. The bid was very clever, designed to get his clause. And anyway, LS's agents told Arsenal to bid that much so that LS could speak to them}

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That's why he tweeted it because there opening offer was offensive! {Ed052's Note - How can an offer be offensive?}

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Ha, ha. Henr, owner of Liverpool would have been blocked by our ery own ed's for not being nice! Classic! {Ed052's Note - Do you want all the abuse to be posted on this site, it wouldn't be very nice}

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At the end of the day the offer was insulting and needed a suitable response from the man in charge. End of, if arsenal are upset, boo hoo.

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Sorry ed52, I agree with you I just found it funny that the owner of Liverpool would have been block on a Liverpool website! Wierd things amuse me! {Ed052's Note - well I doubt JWH tries to post on this website, so its not really a problem}

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Wonder why Arsenal are willing to pay £40M for Suarez?
Perhaps they see this season as the perfect opportunity to win the Premier.
If they do get Suarez? My money is on them to hit the top and never look back.
Meanwhile Lfc and all our indignant supporters, where will we be?
Seriously can a team like Lfc afford to be generous and sell one of the Worlds best players to a rival?
Don't think so! Think we will oh so regret it. {Ed052's Note - they need a striker and LS is the only half decent one available to them right now}

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24 Jul 2013 20:29:33
Ed52 how was that not offensive? We rejected 40M they came with 40M+1, what do you expect from JWH, he was so angery that he took out his frustation on twitter and rightly so! {Ed052's Note - They never bid 40m, then added a pound mate. They've bid twice, with their second bid 40,000,001}

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24 Jul 2013 18:12:03
Arsenal fans sing at suarez
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VhLR-BlmQEo
Let him go and play in front of his fans

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24 Jul 2013 18:09:49
So funny, LFC's refusal to do business with Arsenal is driving their fans to distraction. It's about time Liverpool grew a pair and stopped being pushed around in the transfer market. For once were showing a bit of ambition.

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24 Jul 2013 18:07:00
When Suarez is sold what top players could we actually attract?

The club seem to have strict rules in place with regard to wages and fees so cannot see us being attractive to many if any. The only selling point we have these days is our history and fans, our side without Suarez is much weaker so our chances of CL football will be even further away.

I would hate to see the club waste money on mediocre players just because we have money, but I don't want to see the owners just pocket it.

Interesting times.

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24 Jul 2013 18:03:17
Eds, I have a question about the Suarez saga. If he leaves, do we have a viable replacement for him as I don't think that Aspas is a very good replacement for him and won't deliver on the same level that Suarez has done in the last couple of seasons.

ScottishScouser {Ed023's Note - What has giving you that indication? I don't know what is a viable replacement is as Rodger's replacement probably won't be good enough anyway unless it's some great name that is good on Football Manager}

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Here's one for ye. Sturridge

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Aspas has fantastic movement and is a team player.

MUSHROOM

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24 Jul 2013 17:59:34
As Rodgers has said we have stuck by Suarez and we deserve the loyalty for doing so, but I can't understand why so many of you want him out of the club.

I know that no player is bigger than the club but surely you as fans want what is best for the club. What Suarez has done in the past has been done. Nothing will change that. He is a world class football player who will only increase our chances of achieving Champions League football.

The reason the likes of Real Madrid, Arsenal and Bayern Munich want him is because they can see past his behaviour and attitude problems and they know he will increase their chances of success.

It is in the best interests of the club for Suarez to stay in order for the club to achieve their objectives this season. Let him help us achieve Champions League qualification then if he wants to leave he can leave.

This not a statement of my love for Suarez or anything else. I am purely looking at the situation from a 'progress' perspective. If we want to progress then we must keep our best players, which is what the club are trying to do and I admire them for that.

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Didn't you see his face, body language and attitude today? And his desire to speak to Arsenal? Who does he think he is? And do you have no respect for yourself? 'Cos I do!

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Red Rum, I share each and every one of these sentiments and have expressed similar many times on these pages . Unfortunately, we are swimming against the tide .

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24 Jul 2013 17:59:03
Is there any truth in Aly Cissokho moving to Liverpool on a season long loan. Thanks Ollivander. {Ed023's Note - Not sure if it's a loan but it is very possible a deal will be done}

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Thanks for your response, I just thought it was the usual Cissokho to Liverpool rumour that comes around every window. Ollivander.

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24 Jul 2013 18:24:55
Pretty much sums up now guys that Suarez will be leaving. In my opinion let him go, for all that this club has done for him and stood by him through his ridiculous supensions and he still wants out. So to all the fellow reds who are preparing more boring questions to the Eds about Suarez leave it until he signs for someone else, you're fighting a loosing battle with a player like that. No repsect and no loyality its not what this clubs about anyway. Goodbye good ridiance and let's see Soldado come in as replacement.

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24 Jul 2013 18:21:12
Liverpool want to sell suarez. but not to arsenal.
trying to stop all this asking eds all the time

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24 Jul 2013 17:51:06
Eds fellow reds .would LFC be able to get dzeko from city or is that a defo NO .£25 million maybe? {Ed052's Note - he'd never cost that much, but no chance}

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24 Jul 2013 17:47:12
Liverpool fans are asking for it, rumours have begun to allude to it so.
Could Liverpool look at Theo Walcott as a part of the deal for Luis Suarez?

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Walcott only plays consistently well when he wants a new megabucks contract.

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24 Jul 2013 17:46:43
ed52 see u keep saying the club want rid of suarez how do uno this? cheers
mike {Ed052's Note - Its just what I've been told, and what Ed002 has told you}

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24 Jul 2013 17:38:07
any Liverpool fan should be utterly over suarez world class or not his body language today was a joke 90000 fans singing youl never walk alone and he goes to arsenal(probably). rodgers can say what he wants but reports were at training he just looks lost for energy just like he doesent want to be there. as soon as a player doesent celebrate a goal then his minds away. tough as it is he's only causing a distraction to other players trying to do well for themselfs and Liverpool football club. Liverpool are praying madrid offer 45 m so its not arsenal. waiting and waiting for it its probably good for all sides. arsenal will probably have to bid 55m and pay over madrid price because of this but its just such a bad message selling to arsenal it is bad. Liverpool are in such a sticky position but can't see how this "clause" is making anything different yes now he can talk to clubs but what goods talking to clubs if fee not agreed yet its the most stupid thing iv ever heard only becomes relevant when its a "release clause".

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Do you realize that the transfer window shuts at one point? The player can't have his mind elsewhere after that. It is normal when someone wants to leave his mind will be elsewhere. That does not mean he will not play with his heart after the transfer window is over.
Imagine he was the most dangerous man on the field when entered today and he was playing with less than half his heart.
Anyone who sees good things if Suarez leaves especially if he goes to a rival club, is ignorant and naive with little football knowledge.
This season is our most crucial season in the last few years and if we lose Suarez expect another 3 years of rebuilding the team for CL.
If Suarez stays we are serious contenders for CL position as all the teams above us changed managers, except Arsenal and Tottenham and that usually and in most cases causes stirring in a team at least in the first year.
Except for Chelsea, City and maybe Arsenal I seriously see that we are in the mix for the 4th position IF we keep Suarez. Otherwise forget it.
Everyone keep on saying that no player is bigger than the club. but everyone fails to see that the club's interest is to keep Suarez despite Suarez' wishes. So to me if we keep Suarez it means the club is bigger than the player.
If we lose him then it will be fine IF we get the money that represent his value and to the market today Suarez worths 45-50 mil pounds. If we make smart moves in the market with that amount of money MAYBE we can fill his position(and get the 20+ goals). But that's just hypothetical and difficult.
The smartest move and for the best of the club is to keep Suarez and sell him next year.

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To poster number 2, I have just 1 word for you to see the error of your post and what you are saying, and that word is TORRES.

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To poster number 3 Torres was a spent force when we sold him to Chelsea. Luis is a world class player at the peak of his game. Big difference

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Torres was a world class player at the peak of his game when he originally wanted to leave. He was convinced to stay, when he really had his heart on going, and subsequently became this so called spent force. I just thought he was sulking.
What short memories some people have.
And that's to poster number 4 please.

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24 Jul 2013 17:37:01
Apologies if this has already been asked.

Are Arsenal genuinely interested in Suarez (like, will they go to £50million) or are they just trying to panic Real Madrid to make a move so that Higuain will then need to be sold to Arsenal to raise funds and get a striker off the books?

ie, Arsenal really want Higuain but Madrid are taking their time and Wenger isn't happy about it? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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Read! Higuain going to Napoli. Arsenal way short on valuation but we don't want to sell to them anyway. RM likely to come in with a bid over the next week or so once Higuain finally sorted but will likely be something like £35m plus bad-ons and not be accepted and then drag out for weeks.

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24 Jul 2013 17:32:56
In all this Suarez hullabalu.
In both the games in the Far East with close to 200,000 people attending still big banners calling for Justice for the 96
Great to see so many through out the World support our campaign against the lies
Thank you
We won't give in until the truth is known and justice has been done.
They took on the wrong city

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Good post, shudnt let this suarez rubbish be more posted about than the amazing support we've had over seas

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Great post my friend. 100%

Alfie

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24 Jul 2013 17:07:08
Hi all, missed the game today (bloody work). Talk S**te saying Suarez refused to celebrate Aspas goal - is that how it happened?

Ta

RedLee

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Wasnt that he refused. He just didn't celebrate.

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Yep. pretty much.
In mitigation, though, it wasn't really a running-to-the-corner-flag-kissing-the-badge type moment.
There's a danger of making too much of things like this.
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A lot of fans are adamant that he is staying and loves the club. He didn't seem happy when the team scored and kind of distanced himself from it all when the team were celebrating. To me his actions were not of someone who loves the club and wants to stay.
I'm sure it will be all over the sports channels soon so you will be able to judge for yourself mate.

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24 Jul 2013 17:20:27
The quicker we get Suarez out the better. Although I will be dissapointed if we don't replace him adequately like the way we replaced Torres. Liverpool is a fantastic football club, an institution of sport and every player we have should be proud to pull on a red top everytime they go out onto the pitch. Greater men have come and gone than Luis Suarez.

It's not the name on the back of the shirt that's important, it's the name on the front of the shirt.

JohnO.

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Standard Chartered?

MUSHROOM {Ed052's Note - Mushroom, do you like mushrooms?}

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I do actually Ed052.
It was a joke, maybe too intellectual for some ;-)

MUSHROOM {Ed052's Note - probably, yes}

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24 Jul 2013 17:12:26
At first aslong as suarez didn't move to another prem team I couldn't care what suarez did wether he moved abroad or stayed, but after his reaction to setting up the second goal infront of all those Liverpool fans has sickened me, if sitting on his wage at a club who has supported him through all this is so bad let him go to were ever will take him, buy soldaldo and another attacking mid and move on

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Ok, I don't like the DF he has spoken out in the media at all. Huge lack of respect. But. Come on with the sitting on his wage comments. He was on for 20 odd minutes, set up 3 or 4 goal scoring chances and indeed had the assist for our 2nd goal. And he looked absolutely knackered after 5 minutes which isn't surprising since he is back 3 days, doing pre season 2 a days, after 2 weeks off with his season only ending 2 weeks ago. He was exhausted. Because he worked for the team. He congratulated Aspas on the goal and then just focused on standing up. The guy is a DF for how he is pushing for a move but don't question his effort for the team.

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24 Jul 2013 16:50:49
This is what Brendon said to . About suarez.

He had been allowed to join up with Rodgers' squad in Australia after Confederations Cup exertions in Brazil and Rodgers said: "There's nothing new to report. He's very much a Liverpool player and over the course of the next couple of weeks we've got to get him up to speed.

"The support he has received from the supporters and the people of the city of Liverpool has been unrivalled. In this period of time he's missed a lot of games for the club through various reasons. The people have stood by him, like a son and really looked after him.

"Whatever happens in the coming weeks that will be in his mind because it's something you can never forget."

I know he has his critics, but I really think Rodgers should stick to. His guns and reject offers and make him repay the fans with a faultless season and if then he still wants to go then he can go with his head held high.
I'm surre the Ed's will say I'm deluded but I am just a Liverpool fan who craves success.

Ynwa {Ed052's Note - I will disagree, as will nmost people, but its your opinion}

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I agree then

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I agree, he owes the fans big time! Spot on rodgers

big KR

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If he wants to go then get best price and ditch him. And do it quickly so we have time to find another player qwithout being forced to pay over the odds.

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24 Jul 2013 17:32:35
I'm gone apathetic to Suarez staying or going at this stage.

If he goes, we'll receive in excess of £40m to reinvest in the squad, and be rid of a troublesome, wantaway player. The squad will definitely be weaker, but he's not the be all and end all of our creative play in the top third like he was last year, because we have Coutinho now.

If he doesn't go, he's still a world class player, and I don't envision him "phoning in" his performances because once he crosses the white line he's incapable of doing anything else other than trying his hardest to win (and seeing what opposition defenders taste like). I'm not going to sit here and suggest he'll single handedly get us 4th place, but he could still very easily wind up as our top scorer even missing the first 6 games.

I'm sure there is a price at which Suarez will be allowed depart, but I have no real problem Rodgers and FSG playing hard-ball over it for now. There are 5 and a half weeks left in the transfer window, we're under no obligation to accept bids below our valuation at this stage.

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I hate Suarez for how he treated the club and us fans he doesn't understand the word respect but I'm afraid if we let him go we're not going to be a able to get another striker as good as him

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I agree and every Liverpool fan I have met here in Liverpool agrees.
He owes us big style
£50m abroad or stay for a year.
Arsenal? Give us a break! Why would you go to a smaller club?

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Eds right, get rid
gareth

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Hey the guy is confused give him a brake. I'm sure the crowd reaction to him has mad him feel bad out how he has behaved. Let's see what happens before jumping the gun. We win either way!

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Let him go to Arsenal and watch his face when we pip them for 4th next season. I suppose he will have a clause put in the contract that if Arsenal don't make champions league, then he can go for a 10 bob note.Great play, but too self centered to be a decent Human being.

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Boys let's not speculate til the deal is done or the window closes.

I know it ain't good but there a lot of great things to talk about at the minute.

Once again proud as a proud thing of the support shown today in Aus. Anyone who would want to leave that for Napoli or Madrid must be mental. Let alone Arsenal.!

Alfie

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24 Jul 2013 15:42:55
Lets move out from the usual transfer stories.
Ed 052. Ronaldinho the best player?
I mean. How much you rate him? {Ed052's Note - he's not the best ever player, no}

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In your opinion ed 52 ( my fav) who are the best top 5 players ever?
Brazils Ronaldo perhaps, Messi, Pele?, Best?

Gareth {Ed052's Note - My favourite players, or the best players? I love Alonso and Kuyt, Bellamy, hmm, not sure who else actually, in terms of players I just love. I like Danny Graham too, and Al Habsi. Not necessarily good players, just players I like.}

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Kuyyt Ed052? You have just gone down in my estimation :-) He worked his socks off granted, but his second touch was always a tackle.

MUSHROOM {Ed052's Note - Of course Mush, but it was my favourite players, and Dirk was and is one of my favs. Granted, not one of the best players of all time!}

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Just a quick question ed052, I assume you are a younger guy as your favs are all of the modern era?
I wasn't having a pop at your choices, everyone has there own opinion, it's just yours is wrong in this instance ;-) only messing.

MUSHROOM {Ed052's Note - haha, and yes I am, raised on the modern, money fuelled, CL, Premiership game}

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24 Jul 2013 14:55:16
I love to come on here and listen to Ed052! Sometimes I seriously question did we watch the same game. {Ed052's Note - Why, which player is 'deadwood' in your opinion now?}

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Ed052 don't rise to it mate. The uneducated only see a player if he's banging in a hat-trick and beating 4 men before slotting it in the top corner, not the tireless work some players put in for the team, the unsung heroes.

MUSHROOM {Ed052's Note - I know, but if a post is directed at me, I will always reply}

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Best, Maradona, Pele, Messi, Zidane, etc, etc

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Were etc and etc any good? I've never seen them play.

MUSHROOM {Ed052's Note - They would run on and on on on!}

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Ha ha very good.

MUSHROOM

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24 Jul 2013 15:56:51
Maybe its just me but I really think some of you have gone Suarez crazy! I can't understand why so many people want him to stay and say how annoyed they will be if he goes?

He is going for sure (well 95% sure) and GOOD! While he is great I do wish some of you would actually remember how he seems to be complaining all the time.

I cannot count how many times I saw him stamping his feet like a spoilt brat when a teammate did not pass him the ball after missing an attempt on goal, even when they clearly made the right choice in shooting. This is compounded by the fact he rarely ever passed it when he should have and nobody screamed at him!

That will drag players down and I hate to think how many goals other than his we didn't score due to players giving him the ball seemingly due to being bullied into doing so!

Forget the fact he will miss more games for sure especially if he moves to another English club as people are going to test him temperament a lot and who could blame then?

I also do not want to see him sold to Arsenal but actually if he was I would still watch us play and think we have an excellent chance of pipping Arsenal to 4th spot this year. I am more concerned with Spurs to be honest.

Anyway, rant over. Just find it strange how we are building him up as being the worlds best striker, he is not. While excellent the worlds best (Messi etc) will pass the ball frequently when they should for the best of the Team and their Ego's do not get in the way

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Just like the awfull pass he made to aspas today?

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24 Jul 2013 17:10:39
No doubt Suarez is a disgrace but world class, every player at Liverpool want him to stay, Gerrard has said many times. Even yesterday he said we should show him love & Liverpool should do everything to keep him, coutinho said every player want to play with best players & Suarez is one of them, he said he expects the club to convince Suarez to stay & will achieve champions league, that says everything, half of our team thinks Liverpool are not showing ambition!

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Just like how ronaldo passes the ball to his team mates all the time?

and doesn't let his ego get in the way?

does zlatan ibrahimovich do this too?

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He's not far off the worlds best striker

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I didn't say he made bad passes did i?

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It was a good pass yes but are you seriously suggesting he is and has been a player that passes when he should?
If so, your simply wrong

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He IS the world's best striker. He's also a person. But then loads and loads of players are. Indifferent as to whether he stays or goes but i'm bored as hell with this story now.

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24 Jul 2013 18:08:31
I have to agree with some posters here, if we sell Suarez is going to be big, big blow to our champions league chances especially when Arsenal are going to spend big, I even accept no player is bigger then LFC but we are in a situation where we can't replace him even if we get 50M which is the big problem, that's why a lot of posters are afraid selling him, if we could replace him then I'm sure nobody would even give a fu*ck, I'm afraid if we don't achieve champions league soon then Suarez won't be the last player to do that.

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24 Jul 2013 15:54:23
so ed u can confirm we're not in talks with eriksen please post answer thanks lfc-ullah {Ed002's Note - Yes.}

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24 Jul 2013 15:51:50
Haven't got to see the game yet, unfortunately a friend spoile it for me so now I don't wanna watch it as much. But I will, and must say I can't wait to play against Suarez if Real don't come in for him. Love the Henry quote, If it is confirmed to be him, and I think Liverpool will come out on top of this mess if we conclude business early. I don't think we need a winger at all, Ibe and Sterling have looked great. We can reinvest in a striker and an attacking player. Hopefully a defender too. Can't wait for the season to start!

Also, any news on the Ben Arfa front Eds? Haven't heard anything for a few days

TjRed {Ed002's Note - There is no news involving Liverpool.}

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24 Jul 2013 16:15:10
Ed's If a club offers 40m for Suarez has the club to sell him for that price or just inform him off the bid? The latter doesn't make much sense. Is it a case off saying "Hey Luis, Arsenal have bid 40m for you. You can go down and talk to them but unless they offer an extra 10m, you won't be staying there" WexRed {Ed002's Note - Done to death.}

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24 Jul 2013 16:03:31
looks like lfc will be carrying a passenger by the name of luis saurez unless the price is reduced, you have to hand it to arsenal, turning luis head, he's useless to lfc now, I can smell the strange smoke rising out of anfield already, the pressure is on Liverpool now,

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There is no pressure on us at all, we want £50 million plus and if nobody offers that then they can go and look elsewhere! Like it or lump it Suarez

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So you have your best player basically taking a season long holiday as he will be totally pi$$ed off and in a strop, while Liverpool without his much needed goals slide helplessly down the league, but as long as we teach luis a spitefull lesson that's allright then.ps. please don't tell me Liverpool coped without him at the end of last season, without LS or 40-43mil to find a new striker lfc may as well forget about next season

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So you would rather keep an unhappy player that would ruin the locker room over taking $40 million and reinvesting with 2-3 good players? shocking

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I'm sure we done alright at the end of the season without him you know mate?
Do your research!

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24 Jul 2013 18:31:08
What makes you think he will ruin locker room? It didn't effect city with tevez in fact it was more bigger problem then Suarez but yet city went to win league, I think you should focus more on your club as the drought of trophys continues & wenger looking to extend his contract that must be bugging Ars fans.

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24 Jul 2013 16:00:43
Hi eds. I just wanted to say that those people who don't see a progress in our play are cluesless! Remember our last preseason or preseasons with kenny and uncle woy? We lost 3 0 against hull! Now the team is temping form for the start of the season. If the start is good we will be up there! And stop slating our playeres especially borini. You will eat your words. Without toure, sturridge and coutinho we won today and that's enough for me. We will sign two or three once suarez is gone.

Cheers

croat

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I see your point mate but pre-season is all about building up match fitness and trying different tactics. Results don't really matter, although it is good to see the team winning.

MUSHROOM

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24 Jul 2013 15:50:01
is it true were poised to nick soldado fromspuds like they seem to do to us every time really hope so would make up a dream front line {Ed002's Note - See previous answers please.}

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24 Jul 2013 15:49:55
Ibe or downing?

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Ibe already and he's only played 3 first team games lol

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Ibe every day of the week Downing still useful against teams like Stoke where you wouldn't want to risk a young lad.

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24 Jul 2013 16:24:21
There were 95,000 reasons at the match today to show Suarez he is only a bit part player in one of the best supported clubs in the world. His pouting does him no favours and he just looks stupid and like a kid who can't get his own way.

I do not begrudge Arsenal as they have been shafted so many times as have we. I still don't think they will get there man though. I think there may be others out there waiting for a price to be agreed before committing!

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24 Jul 2013 16:18:08
Rumours that Saurez to be offered a new contact – shame if true I rather she him get shown the door – on the flight to Singapore

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I agree show him the door at about 35000 feet.
I don`t mean that because we wouldn`t get our 50 mill.
Royzered

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24 Jul 2013 14:17:06
Hey ed052, ed001 or whoever is about. Getting away from all this suarez BS I'd like to ask you a question regarding the academy. It seems the club is focusing a lot more on the academy and is ploughing in more money into the academy now more than ever with the recent acquisitions of Herbie Kane, Yan Dhanda, Sergie Canos and Pedro Chirivella, is this the strongest you've seen the academy in terms of quality and potential first team members? {Ed001's Note - yes, by a long way. The youth system has needed an overhaul and it is now looking in great shape for the future. I just wish we would put more of our effort into coaching improvements into players, rather than just finding the best ones. Crewe, for example, have to pick up players who are simply not good enough to get in other youth teams, such as ours. They work with them and mould them into really good technical players capable of making a good living from the game. With the better level of players we start with, surely we should be able to coach them to a level that would see them be good enough for our first team?}

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Ed, who was that player Man U got from Crewe. He looked a good buy but never seen him since. {Ed052's Note - Powell}

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To anyone who watches Crewe: How has Clayton progressed from a year ago when we were linked with him? {Ed052's Note - He is getting better but will stay at Crewe this year. Cardiff and two others enquired about him this year}

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24 Jul 2013 15:35:31
Suarez body language said it all today, he doesn't want to be here, so painful to admit to, he showed in 19 minutes why he is worth £50 million, one piece of magic and creates a goal, I suppose the best thing now is get as much as we can and spend it wisely, big mistake to sell to one of our rivals.

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In a nutshell!

The Juicer

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24 Jul 2013 15:24:57
Arsenal fan here,

This post has nothing to do with Suarez.

I was at the Liverpool game in Melbourne, and I was in absolute awe of the YNWA chant. I have been in admiration of it for a long time now, and I witnessed over 95,000 people singing 'You'll Never Walk Alone' right before me, me being one of them.

I really don't care if I'm an Arsenal fan, I respect Liverpool as a club, great history and tradition. I also respect the chant and fan culture of the club, and tonight, I was proud to be an Australian (Always am, but you know what I mean).

I can't believe how lucky you guys are to be able to sing that every week. It would be an absolute honour to be able to hear that before the start of every game. We did ourselves proud tonight, this chant gave me goose bumps. Hopefully Liverpool, or another top Premier League club can come to Australia, so we can have an atmosphere like that again. The MCG was packed to the rafters, it was a sea of red scarfs. Absolutely fantastic.

Anyway, good luck for the season ahead, let's hope Arsenal and Liverpool can return to being the on-field powerhouses the once were not so long ago.

Cheers,

#1 Arsenal fan.

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Great post LTP

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Nice post mate and your right it is a honour hearing it chanted, win or lose

Gareth

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Fantastic post mate, wish there were more people like you

James

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I swear if all Arsenal fans were like this, we'd be best friends.

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Mate I m a Liverpool fan and I ve been at the emirates singing thierry henry we love you, thierry henry thierry henry

footballis brilliant

arsenal were playing shaktar btw. why wouldn't I support them over some ukrainian side

tom1975

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24 Jul 2013 15:20:50
J W Henry that tweet will go down in Liverpool Football Club folklore. you absolute legend! I've had enough of clubs shafting us year after year i.e Mcmanaman, Owen (Real madrid) Caroll (Newcastle) Cole (Chelsea) to name but a few. I've been jingoistic about Hanniball Lector but if he wants to go let him go but you don't sell a shiny new Lamborghini for pennies do you? We sold Torress to Chelsea why can't we sell Luis to Arsenal? If they want him that badly pay the going rate or buy some cheap, unknown kids from the backend of nowhere mr Wenger! And Real Madrid haven't even entered the fray yet. For once we could be laughing all the way to the bank. Just don't buy Darren Bent for 35 million.! Viva JW Henry! {Ed002's Note - Chelsea were not involved in the transaction for Cole. He was a free agent.}

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25 Jul 2013 08:47:44
Is City's business done Ed02?
Could they enter the fray for LS at the 12th hour?

The Juicer {Ed002's Note - They are not done. However, whilst it is not out of the question they could still look to a bid, I think it is unlikely right now.}

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24 Jul 2013 14:59:58
In addition to losing a very talented player, the most annoying aspect of Suarez's lack of loyalty is the disruption it is causing to our remaining transfer plans. Until this is resolved it is difficult to see BR spending the remainder of his budget (to use an analogy why would he want to spend his current budget on a Ford Focus for cover at left back and a Saab for the attacking midfield position when in a few days time he might well have enough money to buy a Mercedes which can play at centre half and cover left back and another Mercedes for the attacking midfield position, with sufficient funds left over to sign an additional player). It is galling if reports are to be believed that Suarez would consider signing for Arsenal. This would complete the betrayal and in my mind Suarez would then rapidly descend to the level of his predecessor. I just hope Spurs slam the door on Bale leaving and as soon as Higuain moves on in the next day or so to Napoli Real then come in with a realistic offer which persuades Suarez to hand in a transfer request. Reality Red.

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24 Jul 2013 15:04:01
Eds are we seriously considering selling our best player, one of the best players in the world! To our main 4th place rivals! Seems obsured to me and I'm getting bait pi**ed off that we'd even consider it! I hate him now as much as any of you but that is not the way to get rid of a player, at least sell him abroad! If he does go to arsenal I bloody hope he turns out like Torres!

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24 Jul 2013 15:02:19
I think borini played well today! came quite close to scoring one or two too! But, if we want the best out of him I think we should give him a run out in the u21 league! I know its a big difference, but if he was to get a bit of a goal streak on, then that could lift his confidence and hopefully increase his finishing! What do you think guys?

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I see what you're saying, but I think the point of having to possibly do that to help him find some form and confidence, shows us the problem.

He's simply not good enough.

This is not me hating or slagging off for no real reason, and I'd love to be proved wrong, but I think it's just pretty plain to see.

Sorry.

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24 Jul 2013 15:01:17
Whilst Suarez is a world class footballer, when he goes I believe that BR will have about £60m available for strengthening. If we can sign Papawhatshisface for 17m, Eriksson for £18m, BR would still have £25m to sign a very good quality striker and it might just be the case that we will end up with a better first team and squad. given that Suarez appears to have mad eup his mind to go, the main issue of concern to me is that I don't want us strengthening the Arsenal. Reality Red

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Not looking for CB. Not looking for striker. Other than that you're mostly spot on.

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By all accounts, and in some papers, we are not interested in Eriksson at all now.

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24 Jul 2013 14:56:25
Although I loved every word of John Henrys' tweet I don't think it was a smart move, if it was him at all! (still to be confirmed).
Suarez and Guardiola, especially the later seem to be working very closely with Arsenal with regards to this proposed transfer albeit without LFC's permission it seems. For all the moaning and whinging Wenger does when someone taps up his players, it does seem that this is exactly the tactics they are using in this transfer saga.
To offer £1 over the clause figure is something I feel has been encouraged by the Suarez camp in the belief we must then sell.
I really hope John Henry and Liverpool stand firm on their valuation and also hope that they sell him to a non-English club rather than do an 'Arsenal' and sell to a direct rival at our own expense in terms of CL qualification.
Suarez showed in the game played today that he wants to go, but I am so surprised at his antics and attitude towards fans, players, staff and his own professional pride.
To not celebrate with his team mates is a huge kick in the teeth for our club, for all that we have done for him, for all that we have sacrificed and for all the crap we have suffered by sticking by him through thick and thin.
No player is bigger than our club, he can do one for all I care but never to another English club

Prestige Worldwide

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If no player is bigger than the club as you say then what's the problem with selling him to Arsenal?

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Its obvious is it not, we will be strengthening a direct rival for a Champions league place, a primary reason the player wants to leave. He isn't bigger than the club therefore we will sell. But not to an English club, not unless they pay £60M

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Completely agree, Prestige.

Joke that it's even being considered. Unless, as has been said a few times by a few people, a 'silly' offer comes in from the Gooners (or A and Other, of course!)

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24 Jul 2013 14:39:28
Ho eds we all pretty much no suarez is off but is it just me or are arsenal just pure taking the p**s offering £40 mil and £1 pound what do u guys think ye i'd rather sell even though he is class but with his antics we be better off selling and the fact he wants 2 go let's buy soldado or higuain and used the rest to strengthen other areas great work buy the way eds {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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Ok what would you rather do sell him to Madrid at a reduced price or Arsenal at the price being asked? because that might be the choice the club will be faced with in the end.

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Simples, the most money offered.

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24 Jul 2013 14:17:53
ED do you think suarez will leave and if yes which team? {Ed002's Note - http://www.liverpool-rumours.co.uk/lps_728.php }

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24 Jul 2013 14:28:46
What words ed? Really keen for him to stay. I know he loves the club.

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24 Jul 2013 14:25:43
Suarez has gone, he can only ruin team spirit now.
Arsenal's offer is too low but they know we have a disaffected player. So looking at their squad, alternatives could be
1) £40m + Gervinho
2) £40m + Arteta
3) £35m + Giroud
4) £45m
Any of these likely Ed's? {Ed002's Note - You seem to just be clutching at straws. Sorry, there is no point me answering this.}

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I'd take £40m plus Ox or Walcott. Or £30m plus Wilshere. Other than that they can feck off. definitely want to nick one of their players if he goes there rather than to RM.

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You want Gervinho seriously?

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Why would we want Gervinho he's bad!

We don't need atreta (as much as I like him) and he's getting on a fair bit.

Giroud wouldn't come to us to be 2nd choice striker to Sturridge.

The only players i'd take from them are the ones they wouldn't sell so if he goes there just as much money as we can get would be the best option!

cheers

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I would take 35 and podolski getting on but think he would suit our system

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24 Jul 2013 15:52:11
gervinho?
Giroud?
To slightly paraphrase John Henry.
What are you smoking?

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What a stupid comment John B. he does not want to play for us. He only turned up in Oz so he could protect his loyalty/non transfer request clause so he can pocket a couple of mill from us.

Wake up and smell the coffee as I think it is your brain that needs attention.

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24 Jul 2013 14:25:03
Hey guys Liverpool fan from Sydney, for the Liverpool fans who thinks Suarez is staying have go it absolutely wrong, just finished watching the friendly and Suarez body language shows that he does not want to be a red anymore, I'm actually a big fan of Suarez but after tonight's perormance I can't wait to get rid of him, he does not deserve to wear the Liverpool jersey person.

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Southern Hemisphere affecting your brain - 15 minutes in his first pre-season friendly and you want to get rid of our only world class player.

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Gerrard not world class no? Agger is 2.

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I agree with first poster, he looked like a spoiled brat today and clearly doesn't want to stay with us, anything above 45M (prefferably not to a EPL club, especialy Arsenal) and I'll be happy, hopefully BR can attract some quality players with the cashish =)

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24 Jul 2013 14:42:17
One thing I don't like is people that slate Joe Allen for some of his performances. Last season he was brilliant for the first quarter of the season, picked up a shoulder injury and, if we're honest, was not up to par for the remainder of the season. It's okay to not be happy with those performances. What I don't like is when Allen is criticized for the type of performance he gave today. What people don't understand is Allen was brought into this team as a role player. When he's on the field he needs to be tight in possession and move the ball east - west controlling the tempo of the play. Also, he needs to feed the other midfielder who will do more of the attacking. Yes of course if he sees the oppertunities to go forward he must take them, but not at a risk. That is not his role. Joe Allen should not take risks in the middle of the field when he's sitting deep. Once he starts losing the ball, yes critisize. If he has surged forward and is in the attacking third yes take risks. Other than that he is doing his job (which is to keep the ball) and that's all you can ask for. Football isn't all about attacking. Sometimes you need to take 10 minutes and just pass the ball around. Football is a chess game.

Just my opinion.

-MG {Ed030's Note - I agree,Joe Allen will be a very good player for us next season,He is what we need,He has determination along with being a good technical player if he works on a few little elements he will be great for Liverpool. }

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24 Jul 2013 14:35:18
{Ed030's Note - Hi all,Just to remind you of our new site for football news.We have recently updated the site with news of the Suarez situation you can find it at http://www.football-news-views.co.uk/uk-football-news-49-arsenal-increase-suarez-offer.php }

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24 Jul 2013 14:22:25
Suarez is sulking. He wants to talk to Arsenal but has been told he can not speak to them unless they put $55million on the table.

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And not a cent more?

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So . £35818970 then? Have they not already offered more than this figure?

If you meant £55000000, then I do not see anyone team wanting to risk all that money on him.

We should accept the £40000001 off Arsenal and thank our lucky stars that they are naïve enough to think he will not do this again in another year or so.

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Unless they put 55 million dollars on the table? They have already put 40 million pounds on the table which is more than 55 million dollars. Stop chatting BS.

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£40m means he can talk to them, and that's what they offered. So if he wants to speak to them he will. Meaning he will.

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$55m? Surely it has to be £
Robbie {Ed002's Note - An example of how easily posters get confused about money.}

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Or that everyone who replied knew what the guy meant, but were trying to be smart, unsuccessfully

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24 Jul 2013 14:17:20
Really enjoyed watching the game tonight. I thought Melbourne put up a good fight, especially considering that wasn't even their strongest team.
Liverpool played well considering its preseason and the pitch looked very heavy and slow, not conducive to fast attacking football.
I'm surprised no one has mentioned joe Allen yet. He played really well tonight, covered a mile if ground and was very close to scoring at one stage. Looks like a good season ahead!
Joel Aussie Red

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24 Jul 2013 14:15:09
Other than Gerrard, I personally think Borini and Allen were some of the better performers. It's a shame that these players, along with Downing, seem to get the most abuse from fans, despite working their socks off and trying their best for the team. I think Borini and Allen will soon enough become very important players for us and are already showing signs of great improvement.

I just think players like these should be supported and not abused. Lucas and Henderson are obvious examples of players that can turn things around and just need time. It's also a shame to see players like Suarez still being protected by some of our fans despite his obvious interest to leave the club as soon as possible. Respect should be given to players who work hard for the team, for example, even Jay Spearing. If Suarez wants to go to Arsenal, let him. Arsenal will be making the mistake in giving us 40m + to spend in the transfer window. Then we will see who benefits the most out of the deal.

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24 Jul 2013 14:25:35
Did u saw the assist he made in the 92nd min.
Thats the danger he cause everytime he has the ball.
he wins you matches, . and that takes your team up in the table

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You are joking aren't you borini is the worst center forward lfc have had in years. Open yr eyes he isn't good enough.

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What match were you watching? Downing and Borini were the worst players of the match

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Enough with the Borini, he is a prospect in development, end of story! Rome wasn't build in a day, the lad WILL come good!

Drigan

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I was quite hopeful earlier in the week that suarez may have a change of heart and stay but looking at him today NO CHANCE he's going, he has no interest in playing for us.x

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Sellhimto arsenal and strengthen our direct rivalfor fourth

why

35 million plus walcott and we ll consider it

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Been reading and posting on these pages for nearly 5 years and rarely have I agreed more with a post.
I reckon the vast majority of moaners on this site are unknowledgable minors.
Totally unrealistic FIFA & Football Manager kids.

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24 Jul 2013 14:47:23
No denying that Suarez is a great player, but why keep him if he's having a strop about being at the club. Sorry, but that's not the attitude I want players to have who play for LFC. Would rather have the 40m and spend it on a few players who actually want to wear the shirt. Why don't you start cheering for players who work hard and love the club. It's plain obvious that Borini, Allen, Henderson and Downing are all desperate to do well here.

Borini had a great game. Had a few shots on target despite seeing little of the ball and was unlucky not to score. He loses the ball a lot less than Suarez.

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I totally get the 'give him a chance' & 'He worked his socks off' but unfortunately its not going to win you games. If i'm honest Borini although unfortunately injured most of last season, I can see the pressure getting to him an just don't think he will cut it in the Prem (i want him to but can't see it happening) Allen has a slightly better chance than borini IMO. Both at the moment non starters for me

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Borini was horrible, maybe he still needs time but he doesn't look like he will be even a 10goal scorer for a season. Ibe played better than Downing who has more experience. Allen did have a good game but will he be consistant when the season starts? Aspas took a few mins to get into the game but still think he will need time before he becomes a star. Alberto didn't do much today but again with time maybe he can be great. The problem is, if we lose Suarez than we have a squad full of future potential but very few that can actually keep us in the top half of the table leave alone 4th place. Suarez is still in BR's plans as he brought in youth that could become good and support Suarez in getting goal. Bottom line, if we lose Suarez, we need a goal scorer or we gona suffer in the new season. Redman4Life

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24 Jul 2013 14:12:51
We gots to get us a quality back up keeper. Jones is a top guy but an awful goalie. His handling is poor and his confidence always looks so low. (didn't see the game today but am basing this on all his previous performances). I was excited at the prospect of Pepe and Simon pushing for the spot but hey-ho. An older signing along the lines of Freidel or Schwarzer is what we need - reliable but not demanding of first team action. Is Given available? Any other suggestions?

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I totally agree, but you're a bit out of line saying this if you didn't even watch him today!

What if he would have had a worldie?!
Haha!

He didn't; he's s***! {Ed052's Note - Jones was superb last year as an understudy. Didn't make too many costly mistakes (1 or 2 at the most). Why replace him?}

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Definitely agree with the ideas for an older 'keeper as a no. 2.
Good options mentioned too, although don't see them coming to be fair?

Cudicini?!

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24 Jul 2013 14:08:40
Can't beleave the bad talk from the press and comintiaters that borni gets yes 1 goal in 13 might not be good enough but it's not as if he's started and played 90 minits in them. I mean 1 or 2 goals in 26 games will get you into the England squad get you talked up by the press don't no how welbeck does not get hammered in. The press. Just shows. lfc Dar

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Coz he's rubbish open yr eyes man

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I agree mate. How he is in the england team is unbeleivable.

Borini will come good given a good run.

Ynwa

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Borini is awful.

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Welbeck plays for United. Simple as that!

Media hate Liverpool. never have a decent word to say!. I wonder if Arsenal will be getting bad press next year if they land Suarez. Had he moved to the Mancs he would have been transformed by the press into the reincarnation of Jesus Christ!

Danski

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24 Jul 2013 14:03:38
Anyway guys there is more to LFC than Luis Suarez. I would like to wish Pepe Reina all the best a great servant to our football club.

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24 Jul 2013 13:59:16
Now that Higuain has gone for 32m+ expect real Madrid to enter the fray for Suarez. This move could start a lot of transfers between clubs. Once Suarez goes we can all turn our attention to supporting the players that we have instead of moaning all the time.
Robbie

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Agreed.
Think it will be all over by next weekend.
Madrid will bid 45m and that's it, all she wrote.
Shame as he's a great, great player but awful human being.
Good riddance!
Have got to get a forward in to replace him, a proven goal getter.
Sturridge is too injury prone.

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If RM bid £40m or more I would take it. Doubled our money and got a cnut out the door without helping our league rivals. Sorted. Expect a bid early next week.

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24 Jul 2013 13:58:05
Just some things I picked up on today
Skrtl looked a new player, seemed to have slightly changed his style.

Allen did well, again, him and Stevie controlled the game when they were both on.

Hendo did ok but he does not really suit an attacking midfield position, much prefer it when he starts of deep and makes strong runs while he does the graft, great engine.

Very good from the youngsters, Wisdom, Sterling, and Ibe.

Aspas and Suarez were at times not on the same wavelength, but this will improve over time (if of course he stays), and yes I know he assisted the goal, but at times.

As for the whole Suarez body language, I couldn't really care, Liverpool are in pole position, and for that matter I would rather we kept him on the bench than strengthen Arsenal.

Saying all this, that Pain looked a very good player, young too.

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24 Jul 2013 13:53:17
People who want Suarez to stay are utter jokes, the quicker he's gone the better, he's a total disgrace

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But not to arsenal

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I'd rather be a joke and enjoy life than sell our only world class player, especially if that's to another EPL club.
Forget less than 15 minutes in a pre-season warm up, when the real games start, when Luis crosses that white line he will always put 100% in for the cause.

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Couldn't agree more. Well said. What a child! Not what we want at LFC.

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The white line he crosses won't be at anfield tho, he as made is mind up with all the bitching he as done over the last few weeks

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24 Jul 2013 13:42:00
I thunk the game proved to fans and supporters of other premier league clubs just how big LFC are. 95000 will probably be right up there in attendances this season. Why Suarez couldn't reciprocate the passions showed by the fans in attendance baffles me. i'd understand if it was Madrid in for him but its Arsenal. One of our rivals for top 4. A team that's one FSG all in 8 seasons. A team he will probably about 5 champions league games a season! Allowing for the fact he'll no doubt get a few suspensions and the fact that Arsenal won't get past the 2nd round! After all that he's said I can't beleive he is considering Arsenal. Fans aren't asking for Luis to stay forever, just show the club and fans some respect. The club and fans that have put up with suarez dragging through the mud. Neel

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24 Jul 2013 13:40:11
How did borini do? Think if we get what we bought him for it would be good business and put it towards soldado {Ed052's Note - He did well. Showed good technique, couple of great efforts, improved touch, good pace, and great teamwork.}

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Some positive news on Borini thanks Ed052

Maybe some will lay off him now (unlikely)

Great finisher and a very good young player and hop he gets time to get back into it after injury without the moaning and bitching.

What are your views on him Ed just out of interest?

PK {Ed052's Note - People will never be happy with him PK, ever. I love Borini. He is passionate, works hard, a good finisher (shoots low e.g. vs Newcastle) and is improving all the time. He had a great U21, and needs an injury free season, not playing out on the wing.}

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Proved me wrong in the second half!

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He was poor! Improved a bit in the second half though but Ibe and Sterling were good on either side of him.

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Agreed Ed052 its refreshing to hear someone who shares a positive opinion on him.

Hes a great striker of the ball and has fantastic movement in my opinion.Anyone who watched the way he finished at Swansea would agree i'm sure (if they are honest)

Unfortunately as you say some will never be happy with him.Unfortunately I missed the game as i'm in work but heard the overhead kick was a fantastic effort, would love to see the reaction if that had went in. I also hope we play him in his position centre forward and not on the wing as it is where he looks the best ie against spain in the u21s (what movement to make space and finish by the way in that game) Appreciate your answer Ed keep up the great work

PK {Ed052's Note - If he plays out wide, he will never prove people wrong. Through the middle with decent chances, he will bag a hat full.}

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24 Jul 2013 13:47:53
Body language at tonight's friendly doesn't look good for Suarez staying. Very disengaged from the rest of team. A coach staff member even had to have a word to him to warm down with the rest of the team.
Ozdave

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24 Jul 2013 13:47:49
Hello Eds

BBC advising suarez wants to speak to arsenal - I don't beleive this no quotes to prove this - your thoughts? {Ed002's Note - They are correct.}

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24 Jul 2013 19:42:47
Ed02 told us weeks ago that his agent was courting arsenal, wake up and smell the coffee

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24 Jul 2013 13:37:35
I do sincerely hope that all the children issuing immature insults in the direction of Luis Suarez, remain seated when he creates chances and scores goals for us next season. Will they? I doubt it.

Mark {Ed052's Note - For us?}

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For all to who it applies. Name calling is so very basic.

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Don't know about you but when I cheer/celebrate a Liverpool goal I do so because it's Liverpool, nothing to do with who scored it/set it up. Players come and go, Liverpool FC is always there.

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Not yourself Ed052. You seem to conduct your opinions and arguments in detail and in a mature way. Much appreciated.

Mark. {Ed052's Note - Thank you Mark, but I meant: 'when he scores goals' ''FOR US'', so you obviously think he'll stay at Liverpool?}

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Kev, I agree, as do I. But it will appear very hypocritical having slated a player in one breath then hail him the next. Ed052, sorry, I misunderstood. Yes I have no doubt that Suarez will be at the club next season. There have been many examples of players expressing their desire to leave a club and then eventually back-tracking. And there will be many more.

Mark.

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I'm sorry Mark but you are completely deluded if you think Suarez will be a Liverpool player this season.

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24 Jul 2013 13:37:00
Have to say I know it's pre-season but I'm worried when I look at how much agility Glen Johnson lacks. I am a big fan of his but he just looks to take too many touches and loses the ball a lot. As I said I am a big fan of his, but if he continues to play this way, I think Martin Kelly will be our first choice right-back by Christmas.

Also I can't believe I'm going to say this but I think Suarez is gone. He lacked the passion and ambition he had last season. I know it's pre-season but he just looked as if he didn't want to be there. Lovely assist but seemed to lack passion. Cheers.
ROI. {Ed052's Note - Yes mate, its scary. Ive just answered another question on this too. He keeps losing his man, seems a bit slower than normal, and is terrible in the tackle. Going forward, he cant beat his man nor pass, seemingly. At least Kelly is back. A quality RB who can you know, tackle...}

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Johnson just needs consistency. On most matches he is his good self. Surely sometimes he is a total disappointment. But at least he is not regular disappointment than let's say Borini.

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100percent agree I just hope Johnson is used as backup to kelly this season people always pritect him when I criticise him thankyou I now know everyone isn't dilusional lfcste

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In the first half Johnson was getting done over by Connor Pain, who's not even a regular Victory starter, let alone senior Socceroo. IMO, just shows you how poor Johnson's defensive skills are.

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Johnson is poor defensively and always has been. He has the quality to be fantastic but lacks the ambition and work rate needed.

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24 Jul 2013 13:36:40
3 games 3 wins 8 goals 0 conceded. {Ed052's Note - Were going to win the league!!!}

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This year is our year lol

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Haha quality reply ed

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Ha ha I always feel like that too Ed at the beginning of a season, then 5-6 games in it's all changed.
Hope this year is different "WE'RE GOING TO WIN THE LEAGUE"

MUSHROOM

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24 Jul 2013 13:35:51
So Eds,

You want LS, Johnson and you feel Enrique is not that good but Borini is a player we should keep as we still didn't see enough of him? And Downing is hard worker?
Shows how much you rate your club's ambition.
Today's match even though friendly, AGAIN showed Borini is out of his depth and Downing is mostly a waste of space. Johnson and Enrique provide more threat than both of them. {Ed052's Note - I guess your having a go at me? Well, at least Downing and Borini TRY when they come on, not mope, and walk about when they come on *cough - LS* *cough*. Borini was very good today. He led the line well, pushed their defence back, and worked hard to close them down. He had little of the ball, but, when he did, had one astonishingly good overhead kick, with great technique, and a brilliant pile driver which almost wriggled into the bottom corner. Downing ran hard at the defence, and showed good composure and technique in the middle of the park. Enrique showed he is stupidly strong, but isn't quick, not have a good end product. And GJ? Terrible going forward - he repeatedly lost it. Defensively - even worse. He couldn't mark his man, and failed with almost every tackle. Borini and Downing are both improving, and work hard. Borini was a highlight for me today. A glimpse of what he can do, and he hardly got many touches of the ball to show that.}

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Completely agree with ed

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Clearly we are having a different perspective of the players. If let's say I play for Liverpool I will definitely work my socks off for the team. That doesn't make me worthy of playing for Liverpool.
I watched the match, felt Borini was horrible, the team in the first half was not that good. Downing even though was running and had somewhat decent efforts he was wasteful. Suarez looked like he doesn't care but he was the most dangerous man on the field. Imagine him when he cares! Seems I don't understand much about football then I'm sorry. Also I asked three friends about the game and said exactly the same things. Especially they pointed out how bad Borini was.

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I agree with you on the most part ed, but I must say that enrique is incredibly quick. In fact, he had to make the choice of football or being a sprinter. He can chase down pretty much anyone. I do like enrique. I think he is a mad *******. But he is not the best attacking player I have ever seen
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I completely agree with Ed, Borini is a quality player and the best finisher at the club, ask any LFC player. He just tries too hard for me to win the ball back and ends up a little out of position. I thought second half of todays game he showed glimpses of what he is capable of. Just needs to stay injury free.

MUSHROOM

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Ed you are joking aren't you when you say borini was good today? He was rubbish all first half an only went for goal in his last 5 mins. Get rid ain't good enough full stop. {Ed052's Note - How can you be rubbish if you don't get the ball? We passed it around nicely, but, we never had the penertration, so Borini just dropped back and layed the ball off. After, he had a couple of shots, which were at least on target, and the overhead kick which showed his nice technique}

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Thing is even though he come on moped about didn't want to be there he still had a magic moment and set a goal up. that's why we need more than 45-50m for him the guy is an amazing FOOTBALLER.

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24 Jul 2013 13:29:02
Eds - What is the CL worth to LFC? £40-£50 million? I ask this question because I think it has an impact on the Suarez figure. Yes, we know LFC do not want to sell him. It is clear Arsenal do want him and are way out with their valuation and as BR said Cavani went for £55 million and Suarez is as good if not better so we will hold out for that figure. But even if Arsenal did look to pay that figure, we will effectively be throwing away the chance of top 4. City have spent heavy and will be there again, Chelsea will be there again, United will be there again. Spurs looking at bolstering their lines and so are Arsenal, we may be left behind here. So surely, if we where to even consider a sale to Arsenal it should be for well in excess of £55 million to compensate for practically handing Arsenal the 4th spot.? Thanks Davatron {Ed052's Note - don't try to overcomplicate things. LS will move, whether you like it or not. He will go for a fair fee in the 40millions's. It is a matter of time. He doesn't want to be here, and the club doesn't want him}

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24 Jul 2013 14:29:56
Added to it. ED052 doesn't want him too. {Ed052's Note - Yep!}

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Neither do I!
It'll be interesting to see what he says about us once he has gone. He can't keep his mouth shut.

MUSHROOM

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24 Jul 2013 13:38:34
No.we, re all wrong!
Suarez has got be shown love, and made to feel welcome .

What a joke. get rid of the nasty, self centered little horror. Because with his sulky gob on the pitch, it's not good for team spirit!

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Nobody wants him after all his antics. The issue here is we want him gone for the right price. Not just getting rid whatever the price.
Thank God none of you ignorants run our team.
If he stays his sulking will go away because he has no choice. And we will get to welcome him back because we will have no choice when he starts banging the goals.

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24 Jul 2013 13:33:47
Forget Atsu - Ibe was class! His running and all-round strength was incredible!

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Agreed - think both Ibe and Sterling are class, but for me I think Ibe has more potential, esp when he's a full yr behind Sterling. Just goes to show the quality work the academy is doing nowadays.

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24 Jul 2013 13:27:41
I agree that we didn't play the prettiest football today and at times it was hard to watch us pass it around the back 4 for what seemed like minutes, but a win is a win!

Who remembers the last time we won 3 out of 3 of our pre-season games. I seem to remember us losing or drawing most under Rafa, Roy and Kenny!

Fact is we're still without Sturridge, Coutinho was benched and for most of the game we didn't have what I would consider to be out starting 11 on the pitch at the same time!

How many games did United Win last season playing ugly football!.

We are getting into the mentality of winning before the season starts against lesser teams that we tended not to do so great against in the past. I say its a step in the right direction. for me the only thing I didn't enjoy watching was Luis moping around for most of the game, not really wanting to be there (and yes I know he set up the 2nd goal).

Like I said the other day - let's not forget the start of this season
- We are playing well as a unit and are not trying to gel.
- Already have some wins under our belt, so confidence will be higher.
- We have potentially a great start in terms of fixtures for the early part of the season.
- Lucas is fit and well
- We have a better keeper (in my opinion)
- We are starting the season with Coutinho and Sturridge, as well as Toure who is looking solid, and Aspas who I think will do the job as well.

I for one can't wait for the start of the season

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And also 3 games, 3 clean sheets.

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I agree with you. People here complaining about the quality of football should look at the pre season games 1 year ago. Compared to that we are much better since the squad as you said is settled. We have good players like coutinho and sturridge who can turn on the style as was seen in the 2nd half last season. Three clean sheets should also not be overlooked. Rodgers is right about saying that we don't need stars, we need hungry, talented players who want to make it to the top. I feel a top 6 position in the league is a safe bet.

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24 Jul 2013 13:24:16
Just been at the Melbourne Victory match. Sad to say, but I think Suarez is gone, or at least is internally chucking a hissy fit. His body language was terrible and when he provided the pass for the 2nd goal, he didn't celebrate with the team. He just stood there moping. Doesn't look good.

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Agree 100%


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ToAussieLFC, Maybe you should invite him back for a proper game of aussie football, i'm sure big man suarez would piss through it, or better still invite him to play with the sheilas.

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24 Jul 2013 13:22:16
It might be 23 years without a championship yet the loyalty and passion is as great as ever, even on the other side of the planet. 95,000 singing YNWA, tears in eyes. Needs to be seen to be believed. Someone please put on YouTube. No oil money will ever buy this support.

As for the match performance, under whelming. Only preseason but needs to get better. Suarez looked miserable and mind elsewhere.

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24 Jul 2013 12:55:01
Stevie G handed armband to Lucas. Now with Agger on he is wearing the captain's armband. Looks like Agger is the new vice captain.

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24 Jul 2013 13:20:34
Suarez body language = quite clearly doesn't want to be there. Ok then it's simple, hand in a TRANSFER REQUEST and we will then wait for a SUITABLE offer, then you can go.

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24 Jul 2013 12:56:15
Just get rid of Suarez now the spoilt little brat. He strolls onto the pitch without a care in the world and doesn't even try to put in a performance when all the fans there are cheering him on. It is clear her wants out so get rid now. It happened with Torres, when he wanted out and it showed transparently in his body language so just get rid now!

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24 Jul 2013 12:53:26
Lucas gave Agger the armband when he came on.
Vice captain question answered I guess.

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24 Jul 2013 12:51:07
Hi eds.

Just was wondering whether we are interested in IBRAHIM from manc? He is amazing according to norway career.And apparently manc are leaving him for free?
Thoughts?

Aneesh S Rao K ASH {Ed052's Note - Its a complicated sitatuion. He is on loan, but he has been released from his deal, so whether his loan still stands until Jan, when it was meant to run out, I'm not sure. If he was good enough, they wouldn't have let him go}

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24 Jul 2013 12:49:45
Does anybody know why Kolo Tour� or Phillipe Coutinho isn't participating in todays match? {Ed052's Note - Kolo has a stiff thigh (I think) and Coutinho had a liitle knock from the last match, but'll be OK in a day or two}

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24 Jul 2013 12:41:26
Suarez if an FN embarrassment – don’t care what Arsenal are smoking just get shut of him
RIP96

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24 Jul 2013 12:26:07
Hi ed and red.gud to see gerrard score but anybody notice strkel passing he looking gud (arshredindian) {Ed052's Note - Not good enough however. He passed too long, when he could have passed it shorter}

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Not good enough? Passed too long when he could have passed shorter? Ridiculous. He played good passes that found the player. What difference does the distance make? Not every pass has to be a 5-yarder. He looked solid in my opinion.

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Some of the eds comments here are getting ridiculous. Wtf does pass it too long mean? I'm with you kingheskey.
Jackzokay {Ed052's Note - By hoofing it up to Borini or Ibe on the run when they have no chance of getting it, instead of passing short to Gerrard or Allen. That's passing too long}

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Agreed Ed.
Play footabll and create an opening rather than lob it up the park.

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The comment was not ridiculous. Skrtel played numerous long balls forward which the forwards had very little chance to do anything with. Wisdom on the other hand today was very impressive.

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24 Jul 2013 09:49:02
Eds in your opinion what teams in England have the best youth teams and academies? Thanks {Ed052's Note - I think there are a lot of good youth set ups, but you cannot look further than Crewe, as the best. Almost all of their youth players go on to be good, solid, league players, a lot in the Championship. Aston Villa have a good set up too, which has been running for a while. Spurs is excellent too, and while Liverpool may have lots of top, top prospects, we aren't yet making enough of our homegrown talent flourish - we tend to buy a lot of youngsters. But still, we carry them on and are reaping the benefits.}

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Southampton's academy is definately worth a mention. Walcott, Oxlade, Bale, Lallana, luke shaw spring to mind. Back in the old days they also made Shearer and Le Tissier. {Ed052's Note - Gosh, of course. Yes, that's one of the best. There are a lot of good academies producing lots of good players, but never the top top ones we need nationally. These clubs would if they had better starting prospects to work with (no offence to who they have - but I'm sure you get my gist)}

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23 Jul 2013 21:47:01
Hey ed052 seen you've been about lately so got a few questions for you, first off though I bet you can't wait for Suarez to leave so the questions about him stop!

ok so

1) Graham Hunter has recently claimed we've offered 22mil euros for Soldado at first I didn't believe the rumour but with him reporting it I think it may be true as he is very reliable when it come to Spanish footy news, do you think he could be who we want to replace Suarez so to speak. I mean he's probably the best striker available at a club with no CL so would make sense?

2) I noticed you mentioned the other day that we might target a left winger rather than an attacking mid just wondering who do you think we would target for that position? other than the old rumours about atsu and dzsudzsak we haven't really been linked with any wingers other than Ben Arfa

3) And finally I don't know about everyone else but for me at least not knowing who we are genuinely interested in is killing me, so do you think targets will become clearer soon and do you think our transfer plans will pick up when Suarez leaves?

Sorry for the long post/questions but interested in your views on this! {Ed052's Note - 1) I don't see us going for a striker, as we have DS. I don't think we will need 2 top wuality strikers, who need to play week in week out, beucase we only play 1 striker up top. We haven't bid for Soldado, and I'm pretty sure of that. I also don't believe that we have any interest in him.
2) I don't know who we could target for left wing. I only suggest that because we seem to have run out of CAM options, unless we go for Eriksen. Therefore, we could get a left winger, and always play Coutinho through the middle. Dzsudzsak is a possible, as we wanted him on loan in January. I don't see us moving for Ben Arfa, we haven't had interest in him for ages.
3)I think they will come clear once the LS mess is sorted - at least the mess between Liverpool and LS. Then we can focus our efforts elsewhere.
Sorry I didn't answer last night, I was ed-ing on my phone, which is fine for small answers, but not an essay like this!}

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So ed when sturridge gets injured we have to rely on borini? Not good enough we do need two top quality strikers we missed out top 4 having even that last season. {Ed052's Note - Aspas?}

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24 Jul 2013 13:19:57
What is the point in Suarez speaking to Arsenal with this so called speaking clause if we are not going to sell to them? Okay we feel obliged to tell him the details but what's the point if we are not going to sell and the amount still isn't correct? Am I missing something here?

Cheers
Randolph Scott.

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Don't know what the point of the clause is but I do know that Suarez has told LFC he wants to leave but wants his bonus from any transfer and LFC have told him to get it off who ever signs him i.e. hand in a transfer request and you will be sold (at the right price of course). This is why Suarez and agent will want to talk to Arsenal, so they can negotiate getting a signing on fee that will cover the monies he will loose after handing in a transfer request.

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Because then they can tell him there story and he can go relation try push a move true

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24 Jul 2013 13:10:54
London Red. Totally agree. Why keep passing at the back for no reason. Very boring today and not a good show for 95,000 Aussie Reds. Good goal from Stevie G.
Suarez body language not good, even though he made the goal for Aspas. He's got to be sorted, one way or the other.
can't be good for team spirit.
Now to Thailand. let's hope we see Coutinho!

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The reason you can't see the point is the same reason that England are a poor international side - being that they can't control possession. The incessant need to get the ball forward seems entrenched in the psyche of British fans. All Liverpool try to achieve is patient build-up play. Also I seem to remember Liverpool teams of old constantly passing back to the keeper (that was quite successful). Keeping hold of the ball has many virtues in football - it is not the be all and end all, true - but all great teams (that last) pass the ball out of defense. This may be dull to you, which is your prerogative, but to me it is a necessity if Liverpool want to be successful long term.

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I agree. We should play the ball out from the back . But when the defenders are tapping the ball to one another, without an opposition player in sight, for long periods of time, it's bloody boring. Especially when 95,000 fans have turned up to see their idols, and watch a good performance.

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24 Jul 2013 13:10:27
If I was Br I would not sell suarez . I would make him sit on the bench with the reserves for a whole season while we won the premier league title ahead of Chelsea and Man Scums .wat a disgrace he is. saw em play against Melbourne . he barely wanted to move nd looked disappointed nd had a sad F*** face .although he did create a goal . but he didn't even give his 20 % in the game . disgraceful . we need to teach em a lesson

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He also just had nearly a month off? A month of eating and drinking unhealthy and not doing a lot of training. that takes its toll on a pro footballer, not to mention it was the last 20 minutes of a preseason friendly.

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One doesn't need to be fully match fit to celebrate scoring a goal with ones team mates, Jak. It's just bad manners on the part of Suarez is it not? Why do fans make excuses for fools like Suarez. Most of us would give-up a year of our lives to play 20 minutes in front of 95,000 adoring fans. Yet this gulpin sulks. He SULKS! I suppose he's just a spoilt brat and is surrounded by people who don't tell him otherwise. What I can't get though is people like you Jak who actually try and justify his obnoxious and insulting behaviour. Jeez!

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Im not justifying it, because there is nothing to justify.
Im really curious what people expected to see from him? He said he wants to leave, so it would have been a weird feeling for him coming out into that game and seeing all the support.

It was a friendly, and all he did was an assist in the last few seconds, no player would really celebrate that.

Like I said, it was his first game back, and it was the end of the match, it was exactly the attitude I expected.
At least he has turned up and played for the fans. I can think of other players who wudnt even play when they wanted to leave. ~Mascherano#

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24 Jul 2013 13:10:13
Suarez showed today just how good he is, it's sucha Shane he's gunna leave huge blow for our top 4 hopes

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I personally think we'll be stronger and better off without him. He's just a problematic, arrogant, selfish little rat! He won't even hand in a transfer request so he can rob a £2 million 'loyality' bonus from our club!
He's been told straight, hand in a transfer request and when a suitable offer comes in - GO!
He's not worthy of playing for Liverpool Football club, who from this pre-season are quite clearly in the top 3 supported clubs in the whole world.
He's a discgrace.

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24 Jul 2013 13:07:49
The lack of enthusiasm from Suarez was just ridiculous, when he assisted Aspas it looked like he was trying to avoid congratulations from his teammates. At least try to be happy for all the fans roaring when you had the ball!

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24 Jul 2013 13:07:05
The body language of Suarez was not good today. But he is a genius though. I would sell him for a bid above 45 millions.

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24 Jul 2013 13:06:53
2-0 win for the reds, watching the game live at the MCG, Suarez didn't want to be out there tonight!

Jon.

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24 Jul 2013 13:01:22
Is it just me or did Suarez look like he was ambling around. maybe i'm reading too much into it first game back etc but he didn't really want to celebrate the goal he set up either. I just don't like the man, he's stated his intentions, i'd just rather it be done with
YNWA JFT96

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At this point, wouldn't you want us to get what is best for our club?

Andy K

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24 Jul 2013 13:04:41
Decent performance by the lads. Sterling and Ibe were very impressive, Allen and Gerrard controlled the game well in midfield and the defence was solid. Good to see Suarez back too.

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24 Jul 2013 13:04:09
People still under the impression that "Once Suarez steps over the white line he will put 150% effort on the pitch" have been proved wrong.

Versus Melbourne he moped around, only passed it backwards when he was on the ball and did nothing.

Yes he got an assist and showed in his celebration of nothing that he wants out.

We are paying him too damn much for too damn little.

I only pray that the optimists have seen the truth by today's game.

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We want a price and we will get the price we want, simple. Can mope around all he wants.

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24 Jul 2013 13:03:28
Suarez clearly did not want to be there. he's going down the route El sulk did. Sell him for 40m can't be a**ed with the prick. Neel

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Looked like he was doing the childish spoilt beat thing.

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Totally agree. 95, 500 fans singing their hearts out. And that's the best attitude he can come up with? Tool.

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Or you could show some patience and we could maybe get more. At this point it is about us getting maximum value and that is a complicated game that we have got wrong before.

Andy K

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24 Jul 2013 13:03:21
Just watched Melbourne fans singing YNWA on LFC web site. We must go here again!
Would prefer Suarez to stay but if he still wants to leave after that then he must go. If you can't share in that kind of passion then you are not right for the club.

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24 Jul 2013 13:02:51
Reports suggesting that we're finalising a loan deal for Aly Cissokho.

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24 Jul 2013 13:02:48
Joe Allen. Take a bow.

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Dnt knw if u r trolling of genuinely stating it but him and gerrad did very well and controlled d game

m not an allen fan bt he did impress me today

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He's been fantastic in preseason. I know it's a little early to be getting carried away but he's a tidy player.

KingHeskey {Ed052's Note - He's looked stonger, fitter, and has pushed on more. More back to the natural game he showed at the beginning of last season}

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24 Jul 2013 13:01:45
if suarez reaction after setting up the 2nd goal is any indication.this guy is going. and I hope the price is a minimum 60M.

p.s we need that midfielder coutinho-esq that when he gets the ball in the middle. he turns and attacks. too many side to side and back to centre backs passes
turn and face and attack is what we missed today. or miss in a player. but I know its pre season. just making an observation. what u think eds and fans

RED LOBSTER

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We badly missed Coutinho today.

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24 Jul 2013 13:01:24
Suarez can go and f**k off with a kipper like that.

I've defended that lad for a long time, but now he knows he's got the worlds media scanning his face he goes and does a Torres and sulks like a little tart.

Get rid. now!

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Oh would u get a grip, scrutinizing everything he does now. It was a friendly, and Suarez often walks round the pitch like that. He assisted the goal and high fived a few of his team mates, what did he want him to do? run the lenght of the pitch in mad celebration that they won against Melbourne?

Some people on here are saying he looked abit disinterested, fair enough, but you're reaction.?

Jak

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Ok Jak, search for my name and you will see I defend players and managers more than 90% of the people on here.

That was disgraceful, do you understand me?

Tens of thousands of supporters paid to watch that game only for a little get to fart around.



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I understand what u are saying, but I still think no matter what suarez done today, people would have criticised it. If Rodgers didn't play him, people would have had a go as well.

I wudn't say it was easy for Suarez to play that game after all that's been said and wrote. Don't get me wrong, i'm not defending him, but its abit harsh to judge him on 20 minutes of a preseason friendly

Jak

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24 Jul 2013 11:43:34
I know its only preseason but wisdom looks a class act at centre back, what you think eds? will he get a game there this season? {Ed030's Note - I think Wisdom will get a chance this season to establish himself. }

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Yea he's very impressive

in 2 years time he might well be our first choice cb

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I think both Andre Wisdom and Martin Kelly will get chances at centre-half this season, both could be great there.

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24 Jul 2013 12:38:46
Without delving too far into the subject of money as I know all to well the eds hatred of it; I thought I would pose a question.

Would people (Eds 01/52 included) prefer to see Suarez go to Arsenal for a higher sum, or to Real Madrid for a lower one? {Ed052's Note - People know I want LS at Arsenal, just so we can see what LS really is (liar), so the Arsenal fans get excited and disappointed, and then so Arsenal waste all their money, so they have a weaker squad - and because Suarez will be banned so much, making them weak}

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How petty can you get ED, your ramblings about how Luis going to Arsenal and make them weak is just flawed.

Explain how you think he will make them weaker, and even if he did miss a few games your just being petty. {Ed052's Note - If Arsenal spend the majority of their budget on LS, it means that they cannot improve other parts of their team, such as midfield or defence, which need improving. Scoring isn't a great problem for Arsenal, they have enough flair. So they may score a few more (well, if LS gives his teammates the ball...) but they will concede more too, if they don't improve. Moreover, suspensions ain't 'petty'. 6 games, 18 points. What is LS is banned and Giroud injured, they could drop half the points because of another 'petty' ban for LS, meaning he cannot play. Nothing 'petty' about it.}

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24 Jul 2013 14:39:03
ED052, what if they again finish above us? {Ed052's Note - Then they will be in the top three ;) Anyway, its still more likely he will go to RM, it always has been, I think, that's where LS really wants to go, and more Arsenal as a back up.}

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24 Jul 2013 12:35:25
Come on Borini lad.

His movement is excellent at times and this kid needs a goal.

DaveyBootle {Ed052's Note - Great overhead kick, 2 decent long shots too. He look stronger too, and his all around game is better now, e.g. touch}

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I get a feeling he has been tryin too much to impress

bt was very lively in d 2nd half

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Belting volley across his body was sweetly hit.

Andy K

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I think his work rate cannot be faulted. His play looks tidy. I think we lacked penetration today so borini had very few clearcut chances. I think if he stays injury free, he can contribute 10-13 goals coming season.

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Of course he's trying to impress wouldn't you if you saw all the hate he gets.

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Got a lot of time for the lad. Remember he's only 21, had 4 different clubs in the last couple of years, and two really bad injuries. Once he settles and gets a little more confidence he'll be a very decent player. Just hope the fickle fans give him a break and support him rather than get on his back all the time.

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24 Jul 2013 12:28:37
Not convinced with Allen still, sorry boys not bashing him and its pre season blah di blah but I just don't see it happening
Wisdom and the wingers look great though to me!
YNWA JFT96 {Ed052's Note - He has just set up one of the best goals any team has scored in a long time...}

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I don't know about anyone else but I thought allen had a good game. He passed the ball very well and also dominated the midfield with gerrard and henderson. {Ed052's Note - Superb run to set Gerrard up. He broke well, had the strength to hold of the man, and a sexy ball, weighted perfectly. That's one of the best goals I've seen since the Swansea goal}

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Fair comments like. I hope he comes on well I suppose its another Lucas type situation we all need to be slightly convinced that he can do it. Hope so seeing as though he's one of ours :)
YNWA JFT96

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24 Jul 2013 11:46:38
Eds 0052, do you think Texeira will get a chance next season, or will we have to wait a little longer? Cheers. {Ed052's Note - Maybe, although a loan is possible. Almost all of our games will be must wins next season with no Europa League}

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24 Jul 2013 11:31:27
I must have missed the transfer of Emanuele Giaccherini to Sunderland and I'm very surprised. He's a very good player, he'd have been a decent option for us I would have thought. Wouldn't you agree Ed? {Ed052's Note - We can't sign everybody... but yes, he seems a good, not special player, who is versatile and relatively cheap. Decent signing}

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24 Jul 2013 11:31:00
Thank you so much eds for all your hard work. Is there a latest on any of Ilori, Jorginho, Eriksen and Cissokho? Cheers. {Ed052's Note - No latest. 1) miles apart on fee. 2) just interest. 3) don't believe we've made a move. 4) not too sure, but it wouldn't be a shock.}

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We're holding fire on the attacking player for now until the Suarez crap is cleared up. Then we'll have a better idea of budget and can get two top attackers in to play alongside Coutinho In the '3' behing Sturridge (or Aspas). Sterling, Alberto, Downing and Borini will be back up. Ibe likely play U21 or go out on loan. Alos cooled the serach for a CB as BR wanted to check out Wisdom and Kelly first. Doubt there'll be a signing for defence other than Cissokho. Looking good, once Suarez fecks off!

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24 Jul 2013 12:19:48
I know we play passing football but does anyone else think passing it at the back for 5 minutes is worse the watching paint dry? It's so pointless! Atleast past it a bit up the field! Jeez

London red

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You should have been around when the keeper could pick it up straight from a back pass. Grobbelaar and Hansen used to do it for hours when we were 1-0 up.

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I agree. We do have a lot of possession but a lot that occurs in our own third. There just seems to be a lack of cutting edge when we are in possession. The likes of Gerrard, Coutinho and Suarez (currently) have the ability to create something out of nothing but when I see Downing, Henderson or Allen on the ball our moves seems to breakdown - I hope these boys prove me wrong this coming season!

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It's all about retaining possession. While you have the ball the opposition cannot score. Passing it around draws oppossing players out of position, frustrates them into clumsy fouls and sends some of them to sleep. You obviously never watched the great Liverpool sides of the late 70's and early 80's. They could and frequently did pass a game to death and beyond.

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Lol as Mushroom states you would have hated football in the days when gk's could pick up the ball from his own players.

Literally you would see the defence and keeper waste precious minutes with the tactic.

Lpool and some Italian teams were masters at it, The likes of Bayern also.

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24 Jul 2013 12:05:47
the papers and gossip columns are usually a mile of the mark but they are actually outdoing themselves today. So many sites running the story that Liverpool are bidding 10M for ilicic the day AFTER he signed for Fiorentina, whatever happened to journalists actually researching a story before writing it.

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24 Jul 2013 12:02:28
Great to see almost 100,000 fans singing YNWA!
What a great club we are
These tickets were SOLD OUT in minutes
Thats after 83,000 SOLD OUT last week
Chelsea had to GIVE some of their tickets away and still could not fill a stadium
You won't hear that in the press!

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Very proud as an Aussie Red tonight. Victory did themselves proud I think. Nice couple of goals and some decent football on an ordinary pitch in preseason. YNWA was amazing.

Andy K

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Chelsea actually only sold a few thousand and the majority went to schools etc to get a decent crowd.

a while back these tickets went on sale and 86 thousand sold in 3 minutes.

Lpool have a support base only a few can match. The great thing is they can't slag us off for them all being glory hunters anymore, even in the last 20 years our support will never be bettered.

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24 Jul 2013 12:00:47
Yet another lacklustre half of football from a disappointing group of players who should be dominating. Only highlight again is Ibe, allen far too negative as usual, borini lacking quality as usual, but to be fair that can be said of the majority of the players this pre-season.

I am not usually negative for the sake of it but I am frustrated with our seemingly lack of progress from last season. Its going to be a long season my friends!

I predicted top six, but from what I have been seeing that will not be possible without some real quality added to the group before the window closes.

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Jesus man, its only preseason. Its all about getting the fitness

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Its preseason. I bet U restart career mode from where you last saved it if you lost on Fifa

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Allen assisted the goal! Did you even watch the match? These games are about getting fitness up

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Wev won and kept a clean sheet what's your problem?
suarez again showing a glimpse of is talent.

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At what point is 8 goals and none conceded from 3 games poor progress? this is with the team regaining their fitness in difficult playing climates. utd have lost 2 out of 3 friendlys against mickey mouse teams so by your reckoning they will be getting relegated!

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3 from 3 and its preseason

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Never seen preseason before?

Andy K

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I know everyones entitled to their own opinion but come on man seriously? A pre season game after a butt load of travelling that is predominantly just to get our fitness up and your complaining. That team in the first half wasn't even close to the first 11. Man city have lost their opening 2 pre season games does that mean they are going to struggle this season? By the way last time we won the league in 1990 we had a terrible pre season, lost to arsenal, went on a tour of scandinavia where we drew twice 1-1 and 0-0 and won the other 2 games 2-1 and 1-0 against a bunch of unknowns. so buck up and stop reading so much into what happens pre-season and wait for the stoke game :)

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Yes, what a shocking pre-season we're having, 3 games, 3 wins, scored 8 conceded 0. Just not good enough!

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We haven't yet bought the two players that would move us to top six .

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So if your saying after winning 3 out of 3 in pre-season that we will struggle to finish top 6, then what do you think of United? They've lost 2 of their 3 games, but I can almost guarantee they won't finish outside the top 4. Cheers.
ROI.

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Poor performance from nearly everyone on the pitch against a second string australian team is a good performance in many of your books but not mine my friends.

3 mins of passing it between skrtel and wisdom at the back is a poor show for 95k fans paying to watch the mighty reds!

I don't care about how United play, only LFC and we are not progressing as I would have liked. How many seasons do you think it takes to gel as a group 2, 3? Not impressed at all. Fair enough you don't like my opinion but its my right to have it people. {Ed052's Note - hahah! For 70 minutes, we played very, very well, close to the peak of what we were at last season, and we are only just starting!! All players but the wing backs were good, so why complain? What do you want us to do, hoof it? As that's the alternative to passing!}

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Fatboy! seriously dude have you never watched preseason before?
can anyone here say that they have saw a preseason match that was awesome?
For me its good to see the boys in red again and also takes the sting out of the waiting for the real campaign to start. I for one i'm happy to be winning and give us some momentum

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If that's our peak ed052 I would hate to see our worst. Nothing wrong with passing, but aimless passing from left to right is just as unproductive as hoofing it as you say, both gets you nowhere.

There were a few notable performances but nowhere near our peak mate, no matter how much you dress it up. {Ed052's Note - That was some of our best passing and movement we have, and, yes, we lacked penertration, but that will come with time, and more energy in our play.}

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24 Jul 2013 12:00:17
i say we make a cheeky bid of £3m for Cazorla to really shut up arsenal

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£3m and a quid more like.

MIKEY

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That would be classic

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How would that shut us up?

The bid would be rejected and we would continue to bid for Suarez.

Ted

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Haha! love it. why haven't we done this?

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Continue to bid all you want Ted you won't get him unless you cough up 55-60m.

I rate Arsenal as a decent club, they have integrity and class but unless you come up with a ridiculous offer we won't sell to a rival, If M.City end up interested which I think they will they will easily outbid you lot.

If he has to be sold to any English club then I'sd rather it was Arsenal, and despite all the bs about him by bitter so called Lpool fans he will make you dream.

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I have seen a report from Spain suggesting Cazorla was of serious interest to Atletico and the deal was almost done. Rather surprising as I think he's a class player.

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Classic.

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24 Jul 2013 11:53:40
Ed02 as you asked me what I want the owners to do about the ridiculous bid yesterday. they've done exactly as I had hoped. thank you. {Ed002's Note - Turned to Twitter? Perhaps Liverpool could conduct all of their business the same way from now on?}

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24 Jul 2013 18:10:22
theyve brushed aside a dismal bid! or maybe they could run it through this site? then we have no need to visit twitter perhaps?

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24 Jul 2013 11:50:50
Is this stuff about Suarez demanding a move true? All this speculation seems to be from the BBC, and most the time there are no sources or the only source is his agent, and as we know players agents are not reliable sources.

AD

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Unless he said it after the match don't think so not enough time to do all that

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24 Jul 2013 11:46:45
David Texeira to sign for Liverpool in the next couple of days.

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Hope so.very good, young attacker

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24 Jul 2013 11:45:47
Hey eds! Does the suarez clause mean he can talk to a club if they bid more than £40m or is it just that Liverpool have to inform suarez if a bid of more than £40m has come in from him? Keep up the great work!
Jonnylfc {Ed002's Note - Done to death - RTFP.}

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24 Jul 2013 11:44:17
Is it just me or is skrtel playing some sublime passes.

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Yep I noticed that, and he's looking solid defensively aswell

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24 Jul 2013 11:43:41
Ed - Do you agree that if we seel Suarez then while holding out for a larger fee later in the window we should get our business done 1st. Otherwise once other clubs know we got Suarez money it will inflate prices of any players we buy.

Buddd {Ed002's Note - No - the world does not revolve around Liverpool.}

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24 Jul 2013 11:42:13
Having Sterling and Ibe on the bench next season is going to really help especially in the latter stages of games!

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I thought both showed a bit tonight and in the previous games too.

Andy K

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24 Jul 2013 11:39:38
Liverpools support around the world is truely amazing and inspirational, I bet that some of the eds that support other clubs especially chelski are a little embarrassed by there attempts to reach this exceptional level of following!
last time I checked chelski were giving tickets away in Jakarta to fill the stadium, maybe the should of brought some plastic flags as well haha.
you just can't buy your fans mcfc, cfc, Monaco, psg and even arsenal to some extent although I respect the way they run there club but they still trail us massively fan base haha. {Ed002's Note - You have to be some sort of half-wit if you think I give a damn or feel embarrassed about the support one club or another gets around the world. Embarrassing is a post like this.}

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No not a half wit just a very proud supporter!
do you know what's embarrassing tho?!?! plastic flags haha
i respect all the eds opinions and the work they do, but I don't respect some of your clubs sorry {Ed002's Note - So why do think your insecurities would have anything to do with me being embarrassed. A proud but not very bright supporter I guess.}

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Haha, well said. Good post.

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Ok maybe embarrassed was the wrong word, slightly envious might be more apt.
however this is a banter form and not a psychological assessment so try not to assess somebody's supposid insecuritys!
as this is far beyond the skills of being an ed.
however just embrace the banter, hence the title banter form my friend.
YNWA *****

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There are other ways to be proud and show support without putting others down.

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Why can you mock a persons intelligence and when others do it it's changed to persons. For all you know you could be mocking a disabled person to make yourself seem bigger and better. Love the site but why not just ignore them like most mature people do?

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Havin loads of fans isn't gona make us win the league or get forth spot is it

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Deanokop77, mate, what are you on about? Why can't you just be proud of what we do and are lucky to have? Why would you possibly choose to use the best of what we are against someone who gives their time for us despite not being even a fan? Your messages are embarrasing.

Andy K

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I don't understand the plastic flags argument, it was given out to people who paid the prices for the tickets and helps build an atmosphere which can boost the teams morale.

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24 Jul 2013 12:57:34
Well said Deano, I'm also proud that we have an exceptional following worldwide, fans that we didn't need to buy.

Nothing wrong with being proud mate

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Sorry lads if any offence was caused, but if you read my previous comments then you would see that I state my respect for the work that all the eds do.
however this is a banter page! so is it really such a surprise when I do in fact post actual banter?!?!
oh and if you have ever actually been to anfield then you would know that we do indeed have to pay for our tickets here as well, but they do not give us plastic flags on our arrival as we don't need them, never have and never will.
plus our fans would see it as a bloody insult if they did!
YNWA JFT96 *****

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24 Jul 2013 11:17:03
Glen Johnson last season seemed like he was toeing a truck at times. He has too much bulk or muscle and looks like he's been on the weights and protein diet, and it was affecting his performances last year, if Brendan told him to cut down he'd be the quick right back who could get both foward and back who could take players on from a standing start with acceleration rather than having to whip crosses in from standing. Also he offers no defensive cover or attacking goals in the air from corners last season especially so there is no need for him to be big but quick! Same goes to some extent for Enrique! Anyone agree and has it been mentioned to the players? Thanks

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Both players are already quick.

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Agreed he is far too big! On an other note Gerrard is at it tonight!

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Watching the Melbourne game I'm thinking if Enrique hadn't the strength he has he'd be totally lost. We need a new LB, would like to see Kelly on 2nd half for Johnson. Delighted for Andre Wisdom.

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Enrique lacks explosive pace. Ie when ball is knocked past him it takes him a good few yards to get going. he's been caught out a few times like that. Fortunately he tends to be good at blocking that most of the time

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24 Jul 2013 11:12:46
95,000 fans singing YNWA in Oz. Near the end I thought I was going to shed a tear. YNWA COME ON THE REDS. G-MAN

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24 Jul 2013 11:10:54
Oh myyyy goood!!
The bar has been raised for Anfield fans.
Follow that this season one and all.
Hair on the back of everything stood up there.
Unreal

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24 Jul 2013 11:10:19
I just watched YNWA on ESPN and I was like a crying baby. I love our club so much! {Ed002's Note - What's this? Henry's next Tweet?}

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Really ed? He's just showing support for his club!

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24 Jul 2013 11:10:16
One word WOW great atmosphere never heard a CROWD singing like that hairs on the neck still standing WOW JON96 aussies YNWA

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24 Jul 2013 11:09:35
Why isn't Suarez playing against the Australian team?

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Because Borini is better

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24 Jul 2013 12:16:40
cause if he gets injured, we can't sell him

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Yeah Borini is a class act- I'd def have him instead of Suarez in my team. Have to do all we can to hold onto him, otherwise we're doomed. Allen has to stay too, his vision and accuracy are as good as anyone's.

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Because he's hardly going to get his place back when he has been acting like he was

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Both played. No mystery at all.

Andy K

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24 Jul 2013 10:59:47
Hi eds, just wondering if you could tell me the kind of role that our new signings will play in the squad this year- whether they are in contention for the first team, or players that might be more prominent over the next few years, rather than immediately.

Thanks in advance,

K {Ed002's Note - All of the first team squad should be in contention for a first team place - I would have thought that was obvious.}

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Out of all our signings only Mignolet will be a guaranteed starter, perhaps Aspas and Toure too

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24 Jul 2013 10:58:11
Suarez does want to leave. He has made that clear through his interviews flirting with other clubs and through him getting his agent to try to get other clubs (including English clubs) to bid for him.

He is, however our most valuable asset. Worth £55-60m in terms of playing ability and worth at least £45m with a discount for him being a disrespectful DF both on and off the pitch.

We are trying to become more self sufficient and selling our most valuable asset for £10m less than he is worth wouldn't make sense. The club want rid of him but have publicly denied this so I don't see it being a big deal if they turn down every offer and he stays as the club can come out and say we always intended on keeping him, etc.

I also see absolutely no chance of him leaving without at least negotiating a lower "loyalty bonus" or even preferrably the club insisting he must hand in a TR to go. The club stood strong on Torres and I see them standing strong here too. The most important thing is to suit the club and not Suarez, the club has taken care of him for the past 2 years.

Those who continuously say "well he never got us 4th" need a dose of reality. Our team and squad for the first half of last season was a lot lot weaker than both Arsenal and Spurs' so that's why fans say signing players like Suarez will "guarantee" them 4th, because they were already much closer and the bonus of 1 world class player could make the difference to them.

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24 Jul 2013 10:56:26
Wisdom starting center half today I think any taughts?

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Wisdom had a good half there. Read the game, passed well, was strong and solid. This is a good learning experience for him. It isn't the toughest game ever but it is still experience.

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24 Jul 2013 10:55:10
People saying Henry has been disrespectful, or a little bit unprofessional sending this tweet. Listen, he's entitled to say what he wants. It's so refreshing to see Someone taking stances like that. He owns the club. Well done mate.

Gazline

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He's a legend!

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24 Jul 2013 18:08:00
not disrespectful as much as embarrassing no way to conduct business over twitter

dave

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24 Jul 2013 10:53:12
Hi. I know we aren't interested but I would love us to sign Russell Teibert. He is a quality young player and reminds me of Coutinho alot. You may not know who he is but i'd love us to sign him.

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24 Jul 2013 10:36:14
Its all a bit odd - Henry previously held Arsenal in high esteem with regards the way they ran the club with regards youth policy, wage structure and spending control. Now he mocks them when they show ambition.

Arsenal linked with £20M move for Bernard, £40M+ move for Suarez and £30M move for Salvio. Seems like they have some ambition this transfer window.

Hope LFC don't sell to Arsenal as it makes no sense other than financial but I think its just games now and who knows what's been agreed behind closed doors.

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Were linked with an 18m pound move for Erikson, a 26m pound move for Soldado, who care? What happens, happens, nothing we can do about it. Ultimately it's up to who's in control of the money so unless you have an extra 50m pounds why don't you let Henry decide how he's going to spend his money.

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24 Jul 2013 10:32:44
Can I watch the footie between Liv'pool and Melbourne online? If yes, where?

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ESPN sky channel 433

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24 Jul 2013 10:29:46
- after turning down 40m +1 quid- Liverpool have now accepted Arsenals offer of 35m + stewart downing :)

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24 Jul 2013 10:18:54
Hi eds do you ever see Liverpool getting back to being a great team challenging for the league and cl again? Its been a long hard road and seems that all the teams can spend stupid amounts on players i.e monaco? Or fo you think that with stability excellent academy etc we will have long term success kevin j smith

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24 Jul 2013 10:04:17
For a Liverpool supporter from Adelaide (we see Melbourne as our derby, Melbourne don't count us at all and see Sydney as their big rival), all I have to say is c'mon YOU REDS smash them, please.

Andy K

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24 Jul 2013 10:00:03
Hi Ed's ands Red's. Haven't posted for a while, largely because the same questions have been asked over and over and the same answers from the Ed's have been given over and over but I still check the site at least 5 times a day, just can't myself, (great work Ed's by the way, it must get incredibly irritating and frustrating at times).
Now that the clause has been met for Suarez "to be able to speak to" the club in question, just wondering if you could offer an opinion as to firstly, do you think it is now more likely Luis will submit an official transfer request, and perhaps that is one of the things Liverpool are waiting on? Also secondly (mainly to the posters on here who are adamant he should not join Arsenal), would it change your opinion at all if he publicly did so and publicly and openly stated that he wanted to join them?
I too, am surprised that we have outright rejected £40m (if that is indeed the case), and I also agree with Ed52 that this seems like a fair price for him regardless of who else has been bought/sold and whatever fees have been paid for them (we're never going to get £50-55m for him imo). He is only one player, and one of the reasons he scored so many goals last season is because he was essentially our only striker for a large part of it. I agree with the opinion that if he were to stay, he would also cost team goals with his "I can do it all by myself" attitude on the pitch, taking potential goals away from others in the team (and please don't get me wrong he is an incredibly skilful player, and was a fantastic servant for the club last season in a purely football sense regardless of all the trouble he caused us). This would I believe also apply if he were to join Arsenal. He would not guarantee them finishing above us because he would take away goals that others in the Arsenal team would otherwise score.
There is no doubt imo that we would buy an attacking replacement (not necessarily like for like), but we would re-invest the money which would surely make us stronger as well and more able to compete with the likes of Arsenal/Spurs. It would allow us the spending power to for go for 2-3 players, the likes of Papadopoulos, Erikson, Muriel, Dami�o etc. Which would surely benefit the club as a whole, and that is surely the point, strengthening the club as a whole, not just relying on 1 player. {Ed002's Note - As I had previously explained, I understand that a tactic will be to negotiate down the c.£2M due to help facilitate the exit he wants. If he were to simply and in a transfer request, then there would be no negotiation. I have said many times that discussing money does nothing but lead to problems and confuses the posters, and it seems some Editors - so I am not going to comment on what is a fair or acceptable price for the club.}

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Thanks for the reply Ed, I appreciate your time, I know you don't like discussing anything to do with money, just wondering in the event of the apparent recent bid whether you thought a transfer request form Suarez was now more likely. Thanks again. {Ed002's Note - It would obviously be a last resort as I explained - they would look to negotiate first.}

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24 Jul 2013 09:58:32
Henry's tweet was suggesting they should spend the money on Higuin not on Suarez. Henry was interviewed last week where he stated he would prefer higs to Suarez.

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Reality is that Suarez is a liability and I for one don't care whether he stays or goes.

However if Cavani is worth 55 Million, Suarez is a far better player and worth a similar bracket.

Stance should be simple as we are prepared to sell him by saying offers under 55 million will not be considered so please do not waste yours or our time

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24 Jul 2013 09:37:56
JH Henry well played sir! I think we all underestimated how we would deal with this situation. If we get 50+m it will be an amazing deal. Eds do you agree? Are you as surprised by Liverpools stance as I am?

Thanks Neel {Ed002's Note - No I don't agree. If he has sent out this Tweet that is being suggested, it is simply disrespectful to another club. No doubt that will be explained to him later today. It as probably done to appease the boneheads who spend most of their time trashing him. This is also potentially another little piece of PR to lay the blame for any departure on the player and not the club.}

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If anything was disrespectful it was the one kind they added on to the forty ad if they were making it official.

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Come on Ed lighten up a bit it's funny and she he cares about the club, does it not? {Ed002's Note - I was asked my opinion on his stupid behaviour and gave it.}

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Or it's simply a joke, as Arsenal would have read Rodger's interviews along with Ayre's and have known that the two value Suarez about 15 million pounds more than they bid. If Arsenal want to be cheap, they should go for another Giroud type player. We aren't Monaco, Suarez isn't going to be a bargain they pick up in the half priced bin.

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Anything Liverpool say or do is stupid to you 02. it was funny, lighten up. there's no secret meaning behind it or smoke screen to save blame or what ever conspiracy your small mind creates. {Ed002's Note - Actually you are making an idiot of yourself yet again. I am pretty much the only person who has defended the owners. If you read the post rather than acting as a jerk you will see that I gave an opinion in answer to a question. Do you know how stupid whining about me makes you look given that your last post was a comment saying you did not think it was his account?}

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24 Jul 2013 11:23:44
but the blame lies with the player! It is Suarez pushing to leave - not the club pushing him out. So concerned with money is he that he hasn't even the decency to ask for a transfer. For too long we've been pushovers with regard the transfer market. I was delighted this morning when I read henrys response. It is my belief that Henry's stance is right in the eyes of most Liverpool fans.
Jackzokay

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24 Jul 2013 11:25:57
According to some newspapers, arsenal where told a fortnight ago when they bid 35 that 40 mil will not get in done. so they come back and add a pound to it? I understand that they were triggering the clause, but if you have already been told that 40 is not enough, adding a pound seems a little disrespectful to me. Like I said last night on another board I would not be surprised if LFC responded in kind and i'm not.

jaybee ( Ed02: thanks for all your hard work, we all know you don't have to do this but you do because of love of the game, so your time is appreciated, thank you) {Ed002's Note - Thanks JB.}

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24 Jul 2013 11:27:48
Ed02 I do kind of agree with you but maybe he felt the bid was disrespectful. 40 million and 1 pound seems a little patronizing to me.

Still he could of said we aren't selling to arsenal maybe that would of been better but let's face it if they come back with 50 million we probably will. But they won't do that. {Ed002's Note - I have no detail of what was bid - people tend to go overboard based on the slightest hint on Twitter or as the result of a screwed up note in a phone box. Last night I saw all of this BS about £35M plus additional payments later, £35M, £37M, £42M etc.. I am not going to comment on £40M and change. A bid has been made. You have known for more than one week that this is what was being sought by Suarez's agent and representative - a bid of £40M by another club - enough to invoke the contractual terms that, in their view, would allow the player to talk with the other club. This is why they took legal advice and Liverpool would certainly have done the same. Both parties are now in a position to negotiate a way forward. There should be nothing unexpected in this at all - it has been explained already.}

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24 Jul 2013 11:29:42
of course its a good thing, shows that the club won't be taken for mugs! We are selling our best player for god sake!

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Jeaz benny talk about making an ass of yourself

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24 Jul 2013 18:07:30
I like Ed02 because he is honest {Ed002's Note - And good looking.}

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24 Jul 2013 09:32:16
Sorry Ed but this kind of relates to Suarez.

I recall a few months back you saying that Bayern had an interest in Falcoa Suarez and Bale among others! Did they really have £200m to spend and why are they spending it.

Thanks. {Ed002's Note - Bayern has an assigned budget that could be spent of significantly more than that. They are looking to refresh the squad for the new manager and for the coming seasons. This has been dealt with at length before.}

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24 Jul 2013 12:16:38
Ed02. I never get why they would wanna reshape the squad. some of their players would walk into any team in the world.
Muller, kroos, gomez {Ed002's Note - Gomez has of course already been sold. He would have liked a move to England but there was no interest - so perhaps not any team in the world as you suggest. Neither Kroos nor Mueller are expected to leave.}

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24 Jul 2013 09:23:01
I don't think Suarez has stated he wants to leave THIS summer has he?

I thoughthe just said that real madrid would be hard to turn down and that he was pleased a club like arsenal valued him.

He has said he would love to be in the CL.

If he really wanted out he would put in a transfer reqeust, wouldn't he?

Ynwa

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Do you ever read this site mate?

He wants out now. He hasn't handed one in because he wants 2 mil of LFC. He has got his agent to go to arsenal beforehand to get them to make a bid. He wants to go and will go.

London red

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Suarez wants out THIS summer. He has not put in a TR because he will lose money if he does. He wants to leave WITH money. Tells you everything that about the man.

MUSHROOM

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Hmmm true I suppose.

I think he wants Madrid personally, and if they don't come in with a good offer then he will stay and score another 30 goals and then go next summer to them haha.

He knows he is worth more than 40 million. I think the fact Liverpool rejected arsenal latest bid straight away shows he not over keen on going there.

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His agent approaching arsenal and Chelsea would show he wants to leave. have you been under a rock?

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24 Jul 2013 10:27:16
To Mushroom and London Red.

Common Man, What If arsenal agrees to pay the amount he is due from Liverpool.
40 mill + 2 mil. will he Hand in a TR?

Its not always about Money. he is getting 120 k week at Liverpool and he knows clearly tht he would be highest paid Liverpool player, if he bangs in another 30 goals next seaason and we get in CL.
further more. you honestly believe Wneger would sanction 160+ wages to him?

He like every player in the world. would dream to play for real madrid. today its suaez, tomorrow it would be countinho and sturridge.
You can't blame them. because Real Madrid is in different league alltogether.

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He is going but on our terms which is good, good luck to him I say but we should extract every last penny out of wenger and reinvest it in the squad

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We should insist on 55. And take no less than 50. Making sure we negotiate down his 2million quid "loyalty" bonus?! And be glad he's gone. Can't stand the clown.
Jackzokay

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If it's not all about money Harry, then why hasn't he handed in a transfer request as he obviously wants to leave?
He wants RM but since they have not shown much interest, Suarez has asked his agent to see if any English clubs in CL want him. If he only wanted RM why would he do this?

MUSHROOM

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Mr Mushroom,

All this while we have been reading tabloids and media's interpretation on the situation, the bids, the speculations. But was there at any time at all LS mentioning that he really wants to leave Liverpool no matter what?

Layman terms:
You are being asked if you would like a huge house over at Orange County or Dubai and when you say "yes" does it mean you hate your house and want to leave, does it?

Put yourself into his Uruguayian, 'winning at any cost' shoes. You are asked by the press "Mr Mushroom, being a great player whom has come from leaps and bounds, from Holland to BPL England to nearly being the Best Player of the League, what if RM comes calling, being a club of prestigous stature and standard?" If you say no, they'll (press) turn around and say how you insulted RM but when you says yes, you're touted as wanting to leave Liverpool.

Anything to sell the papers! or get hits on their website.

Am I making sense here?

Coming back to the audaciously, cheeky and insulting bid by Wenger's Arse-Anal, yea lad, what have ye been smoking at Emirates? Mind if I take a whiff?

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24 Jul 2013 12:40:54
Mushroom.
You along with me have only news which coems out in the press or when the Ed actualy reveal it here.
How many times your head is turned on any decision.
Things Happens. Its just Human Nature.
He would never hand in TR, because If he ever wants to leave its to Real. But he fear, How the fans would take him if He ends up at Liverpool after all the Press Incidents.
He along with the whole world knows what arsenal could offer him.
Common Arsenal If you see Suarez not handing a TR. why don't you pay the 2 mill due and then ask him to Hand in TR.

If tom mng his wife wakes up and say, we are not moving anywhere from merseyside. then?

Things can happen right?

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Harry,
Sorry mate but I don't believe a jot the tabloids write so my comments have nothing to do with what they say. As for the Eds, they speak a lot of sense, unlike a lot of persons on here. I don't always agree with them as hear different things, but at the end of the day you make your own opinion.
Things can change you're right. An example of that is Suarez saying he wants only Madrid and then asking to speak to Arsenal.

MUSHROOM

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24 Jul 2013 09:18:28
Hi eds and reds

Nice to see that Arsenal are actually bidding in excess of 40m pounds.

I just hope that is the tonic for other teams especially Real Madrid to start the bidding war.

I personally would be satisfied with any bid higher than 42m pounds.

I still feel he might be at Madrid rather than Arsenal but you will never know until it is confirmed.

On a positive note, like any other football fan, I can only wish that the club I support win the league or at the very least, play fantastic football and finish as high up the table as possible.

YNWA-SA

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24 Jul 2013 09:18:00
Liverpool have rejected two bids from Arsenal for Luis Suarez now
Henry this morning tweeted: "What do you think they're smoking over there at Emirates?" after Arsenal increased their offer to test a clause in Suarez's contract.

Liverpool immediately rejected the latest offer from the Gunners, with Henry's comments suggesting Arsenal are deluded about the price-tag of Suarez.

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Keep him mate. and deal with his madness. 40mill you can use to better your team, and get rid of a player who does not want to be there, and help us out by having a player who can take us to the next level.

just keeping an unhappy player never works out. we will see who is smoking what end of season.

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Gotta love that reply from John Henry

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It will be controversial and maybe a little unprofessional but I guess it sends a message and did bring a little smile to my face.

Andy K

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24 Jul 2013 10:31:06
hahahha.
You gunners are so desperate to land him since you have lost every target.
jovetic, higuain, soldado, bernanrd, RVP, rooney.
The reality is. suarez on any seaosn would score more goals than all of your front three combined.
Thats guaranteed.

And regarding keeping an unhappy player.
Once the KOP starts singing his name and he cross the line, he is different professional alltogether.
He might bluff. he is outspoken. and he might be crazzy. But he is simply a pure genius on pitch.

He would never sit back in bench to earn the money like tevez or any other player.

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"Keep him mate. and deal with his madness. 40mill you can use to better your team, and get rid of a player who does not want to be there, and help us out by having a player who can take us to the next level.

just keeping an unhappy player never works out. we will see who is smoking what end of season."

What makes you think arsenal is suarez first choice! Go back to arsenal page

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What was henry smoking when signed the cheques for downing, carrol henderson and borrini, the man hasn't a clue about football or how it operates, I don't think arsenal will be giving him anymore advice, apart from change your cosmetic surgeon mate
trev the gooner {Ed002's Note - Mr Henry did not choose or buy those players. All he is seeking to do now is get the best price for a player the club want to sell. The reported Twitter comment was a mistake if it came from him - no doubt someone will tell him that latter.}

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Harry Scouser is right, Suarez when he played in front of 95,000 fans at the MCG have it everything he had.

Oh wait my mistake.

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24 Jul 2013 09:07:24
Hi Eds. Not transfer related and perhaps naive on my behalf, but is there an official way we can write to Pepe to say thank you for his service through the club or perhaps to him personally? Thank you for your efforts and time. {Ed002's Note - You could write to him C/O the club (or Napoli) and they will make sure it gets to the player.}

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24 Jul 2013 08:57:15
£50m for Suarez and I don't think we can complain.

I have no problem with selling him for that kind of fee, my only concern is who we replace him with.

This is a great chance to rebuild which last time we squandered with a £35m transfer for a player who shall not be named.

If we try and replace Suarez with one or two players? Fine. If those players are of jorginho's quality then I will be very upset! We must buy first team players now.

Puzzled Red

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Puzzled Red, I totally agree its all very well having £50m in the bank, which is what we should hold out for, but what players can we sign who would really improve the 'playing first team'. The top ones are not available or like LS want CL. Most of the players linked to us either pure bs or simply not good enough to move team to next level. On another note at least LS turned up in Aus, I think back to the player who most wanted HM went on strike to force a move.

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24 Jul 2013 08:52:47
We should never sell suarez to arsesal If we sell him to arse al we can forget top 4

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Because we have achieved top 4 with Suarez so far haven't we?
Football is a TEAM game, not a one man show.

MUSHROOM

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MUSHROOM, Suarez carried us last season, at times it was a one man show.

Adam

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Mushroom, if we sellout best player to a team that are confident of top 4, we will definitely lose out on CL. Course it's a team game, but if we strengthen Arsenals TEAM with Suarez, we will give them a major push forward to top 4.

REDHEAD

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My order of priority for Suarez:
1) a minumum is met, say 50m, then
2) he goes to the highest bidder and then
3) they are outside of the EPL

In that order.

Andy K

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Adam do you actually watch any games? Suarez has not carried us at all! He is far too greedy (in all aspects of the word) and we played far better football towards the end of last season WITHOUT him. Once you pass to Suarez, you might as well sit down as you will never receive the ball back as he will try to beat every man and his dog.
We will be a far far better team once Suarez has gone.

MUSHROOM

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Agree adam, mushroom getva grip man

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REDHEAD, Why do you think Suarez is the be all and end all of any football team?
Suarez did not achieve us CL and, correct me if I'm wrong, but Arsenal have achieved CL without Suarez quite consistently.
Now I am NOT saying Arsenal will not achieve CL with Suarez, before you misinterpret.
Do you also suggest that if we do sell Suarez, for let's say £42m, we will not be able to buy at least a couple of players who will improve our team?
By my reckoning selling Suarez, who we don't need to replace as we have Sturridge, Aspas and Borini amongst others, and buying at least 2 players to strengthen the first team in other areas WILL make us a better team.
Oh and by the way Sturridge has a better goals to games ratio than Suarez.

MUSHROOM

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. was he carrying us in those games that he got banned in then? And he'll be carrying us in the ones he's banned this season too!?! Seriously dude!
Jackzokay

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Ohhh we have Borini. What a loser you are Mushroom

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24 Jul 2013 12:45:52
Mushroom.
How can someone change their colours in such quict time.
Tom If countinho hands in a TR, you would say the same, don't you?
Where was so called other 20 mill players, when Liverpool were trailing against Newcastle,
He scored 30 + goals. and that came in more than 20 gmaes. in Which Liverpool won 15 off it.
He never carried?. After gerrard and probably Torres. Its he who is the focal point. and he has carried our team like no other last seaon.

Dont count how many he missed, coz. 90% of those opportunites missed was created him him.

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Jackzokay and MUSHROOM,

You are delusional if you don't believe he carried us. He dug out goals that shouldn't have been scored, winning us matches we should not have won. He was our top scorer and papered over a very poor season. Without him we would have finished a lot lower in the table. There is a reason why top teams want to sign him.

An person I agree, but he was an intricate part of the team.

Adam

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24 Jul 2013 12:51:22
Mushroom.
Suarez did not ahieve CL. coz.the rest of teh squad apart from him. wer not good enough.
Neitehr 18 mill allen. nor 20 mill downing.
Arsenal have a abetter squad than Us and they wanna challenge for title. and suarez the player they want.

POdolski suarez Walcott
Giroud

Thats a formiddble front three {Ed052's Note - four...}

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24 Jul 2013 08:44:37
Just seen jw henry having a go at arsenal one thing john at least they are showing some ambition wheres yours, our squad is knowhere near top 4 quailty I hope lfc don't bring out the oldchetvut of we made the biggest signing of the summer keeping luis we need some quailty players even brendon says it the season is not far away get the players in ayre fsg

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The mans a legend! Get a sense of humour!

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Think our current squad is up there with arsenal and spurs?

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I think we could get top 4 if just suarez stayed. Look how we ended last year if we kept that up all year we would of been a lot closer. You need to be realistic

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Is ambition bidding an amount you know will be rejected? I call it wasting people's time.
Red fox

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Been honest trying to keep your best player is ambition

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24 Jul 2013 08:40:45
On a tram in Melbourne heading to the MCG, been living in Australia for 9 years now, Liverpool born and bred. Super excited to watch the reds play their first ever game in Australia! Liverpool to win 0-3 tonight.

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Hope you have great day my m8 enjoy
Ynwa lfc linc

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24 Jul 2013 08:32:21
Seems to me that if LS goes (and I think he will), the Gooners is the most likely destination.
Real Madrid are obviously making Gareth Bale their #1 target and should they be successful in getting him, can we really see them going for Suarez too with the money being quoted for both of them?
The Goatherder
JFT96

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24 Jul 2013 08:27:47
I don't claim to know Suarez or the way he thinks however over the past two years here are my thoughts. Suarez is a winner, he will win at all costs. If I am Suarez would I wish to move to Arsenal? Ok, they are a level up from Liverpool at the moment, in the CL and consistently finish in the top 4. BUT. every year their ambition is to finish 4th and make it out of the group stages of the CL. Would a winner who would win at all cost want to go there? They haven't won a trophy for the past 7/8 seasons? I sincerely doubt Arsenal will be his next destination. If champions league football is all he is after we could have loaned him to Cliftonville for a month. they had as much chance of winning the CL as Arsenal have now.

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If arsenal aren't showing ambition why are they making bids of 40m for players and furthermore arsenal moved into a fantastic brand new stadium several yrs ago which cost 450mil therefore we had to cut our cloth accordingly, ask yourself what transfer budget lfc will have when they are paying several hundred million redevelopeing anfield, you should engage your brain before you speak mate
trev the gooner

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Gooner in peace-
what you are saying is absolutely true.

But arsenal are in a great financial position now (I think better than people realise), if they are serious about building a team to challenge, they can potentially do it.

Getting players like LS in could be the start of that ambition (whether its him or just top players in general).

I think wenger has been waiting for the financial shackles to come off.

That's obviously what we fans have been waiting for!

So I guess its selling that vision to perspective players, that arsenal are serious about winning again.

Hope so anyway.

best of luck- I have nothing against Liverpool, always quite liked u tbh.
MG gooner

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Ambition? offering an amount you know will get rejected is not ambition.Wenger is and always will be trying to bargain, but it hardly ever works out

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Original poster. Thanks for the wise words Trev but I think you may have totally missed my point. Arsenal will not win the Prem next year. Arsenal will not win the CL next year. Suarez is good enough to play for a top European side. Suarez wants to win and since the days of Viera and Petit Arsenal just aren't winners. This isn't a Liverpool v Arsenal debate, just a thought that there is not point stepping up one level of football when you could go to the top. Arsenal will be a smokescreen from LS reps to force a more competitive bid from one of Europe's more competitive CL teams. We would not be having this same discussion if Chelsea had made the bid as I consider them to be potential league winners next year and will do well in CL.

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24 Jul 2013 08:12:54
Suarez: Liverpool could easily force him to stay. he then has a choice, act like a petulant child and have no teams interested next summer, or bust a nut to get Liverpool into the CL and leave on better terms where we are more willing to sell. i'm still relaxed about the situation just as BR is. he's no mug and is controlling the situation.

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24 Jul 2013 09:33:52
Why would we sell a aplyer who gets us into CL?.
If we are in CL. he would never go.

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24 Jul 2013 08:10:38
Interesting stuff this Suarez situation. I think personally that 40 mil is a good price for a player that brings an element of risk along with his skill. He has a bad disciplinary record and could do something ridiculous at any time. Plus, if an EPL club, and therefore direct competition to LFC buy him (arsenal), then Suarez is out of the picture for the first 6 games. As a fan I would like to think that the money received for Suarez would be given to BR to reinvest, and 40 mil could get you one or two top class players. For me, BR would spend it wisely. As I've stated on here before, I trust BR and his team. I don't think Suarez will stay. BR is maybe waiting to see what happens with Bale to RM? Bale to Man U? Rooney to Chelsea? ronaldo staying at RM Etc. Once all that stuff is sorted, then Suarez and LFC will know who wants him. Not saying that Man U or Chelsea are interested, but RM will know where they are at that point, and other teams may then show an interest too, maybe Napoli, Anzhi etc. In the meantime the bidding for Suarez, thanks to Arsenal has already arrived at a fair price. All in all, I'm dead excited and can't wait to see who's in a red shirt come the first game of the season. Thanks for the work Eds. DaveDee

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24 Jul 2013 07:43:14
Why does no one take a liking to Marek Hamsik? He's not too old at 26 and is a good CM who gets around the pitch and has a good left and right foot. Does no one rate him and why?

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The price of the player is extremely high

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If we get £50m+ for Suarez, I would only be happy if he was replaced with Hamsik and Martinez

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24 Jul 2013 07:41:50
What I don't understand is Arsenal let there best player go RVP to Man U if they had kept him his goals last season would have got them very close to the league!

Now they want Suarez to fill his shoes, why didn't they just go all out and keep RVP.

Sorry Arsenal will win nothing again next season with or without Suarez!

Just doesn't add up, they be better trying to sign Cesc back and a striker like Ba or Cisse!

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Hi

Maybe RVP knew he had a much better chance at MUFC, away from Arsenal.

YNWA-SA

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But if they get suarez there making us weaker and them stronger

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How weak were we in the last 4 games of last season without Suarez?

MUSHROOM

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Mushroom you go through great pains to give a constructive argument why we don't need Suarez. 'its a team game', 'how many games have we won without' etc. We judge players on the basis of a season and he saved our season and it was still miserable where we finished. As for a team game you don't need to remind any of us of that. But extraordinary individuals and Suarez is one of those won football matches by themselves sometimes, occasionally even. Ronaldo and Messi. Bale too reinforce that point. So your arguments are vague.

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24 Jul 2013 10:05:54
Mushroom.
We were simply weak against Everton at anfield.
But yes.we did beat an awful newcastle and relegated QPR along with another awful Fulham.

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Ay dear!
Harry I think you are misunderstanding the difference between weak and inconsistent. We have been an inconsistent side for many seasons. The teams you say were awful are the teams we normally struggle against. We always up our games against the top sides.
And to Mr no name, we will see this season how many games we will win without Suarez. Even if he stays, which I very much doubt, we can still judge this on the first 6 games can't we?

MUSHROOM

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Correction harry, we destroyed Newcastle we didn't just beat then, if we scraped a one nil win then I would agree but they got hammered and if you can put 6 goals past a premier league team then you can score against any team in the league. There's no problems if suarez leaves, the only worrying thing is that we spend the money on 4 squad players as opposed to 1 or 2 first teamers.

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24 Jul 2013 12:53:40
Ashy,

Just go back and ask any New castle supporter about the team they fielded against Us.
City or arsenal or UTD would have scored 10.
we could have had a mini footballground of ours in the middle of the park (Between Newcastle Midfield and Newcastle Defence

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24 Jul 2013 07:28:37
I am in Canada and I am going to wake up (or just not sleep) to watch the game at 5 AM here, so don't find excuses to not watch it haha

YNWA

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That is what it is like just about all season for us in Australia following the EPL. Respect.

Andy K

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24 Jul 2013 05:29:27
6 hours from kick off melbourne, drinkin with approx 1000 supporters, walkin round the city every 2nd shirt is a red. support is epic in aus. god its good to be alive.

aussiepool tristan

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That sounds awesome, wish I could be there man!

Have a great time.

JFT 96

JP

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24 Jul 2013 05:16:47
The club is bigger than a player. When Torres left, we found Suarez (okay, we bought carroll but anyway). I am pretty sure than when Suarez leaves, we'll find somebody else.

By the way, I feel instead of going for an attacking mid, we should go for a left winger. Any one of Balazs Dzsudzsak, Xherdan Shaqiri or Antoine Griezmann would be a fantastic signing.
Thoughts welcome.
Cheers

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I don't know much about Balazs Dzsudzsak or Antoine Griezmann but I do like Xherdan Shaqiri despite us not having a snowballs chance in Hades. I agree with the idea though.

Andy K

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24 Jul 2013 07:10:28
For all the Indian fans out there, the friendly between Liverpool and Melbourne will be telecast live on Sony Six from 3:30 pm IST.

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24 Jul 2013 06:50:55
So Eds we have indeed rejected this 40m +£1 bid from gooners. Its fair to say thst LS will not be a LFC player next season and will go eventually so do u expect that once he has gone that we will invest and replace with another striker say in the 25-30m bracket or will we buy7m yougsters to fit in BR philosophy? Dreading the latter tbh.please answer. {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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24 Jul 2013 05:09:20
40 million and 1 pound for Suarez, is this actually true eds? If so, that has to be the stupidest figure I have ever heard of. I also thought he never had a buy-out clause, just that he was aloud to speak to a team once they had bid a certain amount. {Ed052's Note - yep! He doesn't has a buy out clause, he has a speaking clause so now he can speak to Arsenal}

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Even though he can speak to them can we still refuse a deal eds? All seems a tad alien to me. But good show of strength from the owners to reject quite a lucrative bid. Keep up the good work eds.

CC

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CC, you have just asked exactly what was answered. He only has a speaking clause so yes we can refuse to sell no matter what anyone offers.

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Ed052, Do you think we would accept this bid of £40m and £1 if Suarez handed in a transfer request?

MUSHROOM {Ed052's Note - Maybe, we would be more likely to, yes}

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24 Jul 2013 04:53:13
i think its as good sign from fsg that they show the world that we do not sell our best players unless big money is paid.
reading all the posts nearly everybody talks about strikers wingers and midfielders that surprises me.
in the 70 s 80 s we had the best defence in the country and that's why we won everything. just look at all great teams in the past they all had a good defence. milan had nesta/maldini/baresi/rykaard ect ect
man u stam/vidic/ferdinand
man c would not have won the title 2 years ago without kompany.
what I am trying to say is the squad we have know is not in balance and won't be at the end of this window it will take another 2 windows.
we should spend the remaining funds on a cb and left back.
for some reason we do not want to spend 20 mil on a cb but we should.
going forward we match anybody on the day.malta

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24 Jul 2013 04:46:32
Owners and management must stay strong over Suarez - he's under contract. How could Rodgers fire up the players every week to fight for a top four finish if we have sold our best player to Arsenal? Management screwed up last year over strikers and it made it a tough season. Let's hope they learn from that. Sell Suarez if you must but not without a plan to replace him that we can act on quickly - and certainly not to Arsenal.

Nan's Scarf

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24 Jul 2013 04:37:48
Hello Eds, are we currently looking at any right sided attackers? {Ed052's Note - none that I know of. Maybe Duzdack(sorry for the spelling) may be an option}

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24 jul 2013 00:45:10
ed52 cheers for info and no need to apologise looks like we may get a really good fee or keep him i would be very happy with either but we must buy a proven goal score if he does go what bout damiao i no he has issues with different ownerships but could get for rougthly 25 what u think cheers
mike {ed052's note - hopefully we get a good fee. but 40m is fair i think. and he won't come but a decent option i guess}

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24 Jul 2013 04:06:02
Suarez

Why are people getting so animated with BR?

It has been BR's stance that he will stand by his players publically and obviously he wants to keep players with passion and skills to enhance the team. Unfortunately Suarez has proved to be, let's say a little unstable :) can we afford to have a player any player even one of his calibre sat on the side lines for half the season, Suarez already has 6 more games to serve.

The current offers coming in for Suarez I believe are fantastic and BR is playing the game well stating we don't want to sell but for the right price any player is for sale. It will not be long now I reckon 45million will see Suarez moving on, hopefully not to any other EPL team but if it is another EPL hopefully he will turn out like Torres :)

My personal opinion of Suarez is the guys an person who at 26 has a lot of maturing to do and although he scores a lot of goals from the current purchases we can look forward to a progressive season.

Jules in Australia

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55m and TR will see him move on!

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Jules, when has Suarez ever spent half the season on the sidelines? Nothing like exaggeration to make your point of slagging him off. 6 games is hardly half a season.

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24 Jul 2013 00:09:05
do any ed's know if bayern will sign another striker to replace gomez? and if any premiership strikers are top of the list? seem to be heavy in numbers in midfield and light on strikers? thanks

reason I ask is would be possible they would offer shaquiri plus money for suarez? {Ed002's Note - Try the search function about Shaqiri.}

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24 Jul 2013 01:18:53
No team is going to bid £55m plus for Suarez.

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Then no club will sign him.

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Absolutely agreed. All this talk saying we should play hard ball is great but in reality I feel fairly sure he will be going and that we will accept around £40-45 just maybe not from Arsenal

Personally for that money I think we should sell him. With his temprement he is not worth the same as other top world class strikers like cavani

Gareth

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Then he won't be leaving.

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Do Liverpool want to sell him? No!

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24 Jul 2013 00:53:51
One very important lesson i'm about to teach and that is NEVER get attatched to a football player as they come and go Love Liverpool football club not the players

REDrob

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Arsenal fan in peace- we have learnt that the hard way.

Of course I want arsenal to challenge for silverware and we have been through the mill a bit in recent years. But hopefully that is going to pay off, being in a good financial position now.

But I don't mind Liverpool at all (there are many teams a head of you, I can't stand!) and would love to see you back at the top, especially knocking those arrogant bar stewards of their perch at OT.

It about time clubs that are run properly start having a say.
best
LG

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24 Jul 2013 02:43:44
Make it 40,000, 002 and I take it!

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24 Jul 2013 02:07:11
Is anyone else worried about Kolo Toure's pace? He looked like he was in pain running around on the pitch in this weekends exhibition and didn't look any quicker than Carragher. I think finding a new CB to start alongside Danny is a priority. At the very least give Kelly or Skrtel a go at it.

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Kolo is defo quicker than Carra. He's currently fasting due to Ramadan so that is probably the reason of strain on his face.

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Toure has speed, and more importantly he has organisation and tactical awareness. Besides, you try doing 2 a days every day for 3 weeks and play full speed professional football. See it you don't look a little pained. It's called pre season because they are working their way to fitness.

SpudRed

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24 Jul 2013 00:44:12
Can Liverpool afford to not accept the bid for suarez with no european football.

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Simple answer YES. His valuation will only go up not down.


Ynwa

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It would seem so.

Why do you ask?

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Yes of course we can.

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24 Jul 2013 00:38:46
That bid had Arsene Wenger written all over it! Expect the next one to include a bottle of Lucuzade!

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24 Jul 2013 00:35:39
Lfc showin real bottle rejectin 40 mil tell arsenal pay 50mil and take him if he wanta to go there!
People slaggin fsg need to shut it they are backin rodgers and we are steadily building a great team for future keep faith in the club ynwa

Basy

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Real did us a huge favor in stiffing Arsenal on the Higuain transfer. Now we are in the driver's seat, because Arsenal have told everyone they will spend, and at this point no-one else of Suarez's quality is available. Now they have to put their money where their mouth is.

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Agree. Gooners are moving quickly before madrid have cash from higuain sale. Price is only going up. Never say never but suarez could also stay

SV

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Well said Basy, Suarez is worth same if not more than what Torres went for, whoever wants him then its £50M especially to a rival epl team, although I feel Liverpool would accept £40M - £45M but only from a foreign club if not he will stay which will make us stronger next season and when we get CL football he will won't to stay!

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24 Jul 2013 00:21:53
People may say blah blah you're not a true fan. but if we sell Suarez to arsenal it is an absolute disgrace and everyone involved with the club should be incredibly embarassed.

I really hope Ayre, BR, and the owners are not that dumb.

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His conversion rate and things like this are why a lot of people want him out(beside the obvious).
Feeding off the likes of Gervinho and Walcott will only further hurt his performances.

Sell!

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Why should the club be embarrassed? Suarez wants out, a blind man can see that, the club want rid of him. If Arsenal are the only club bidding for him, and meet our valuation, would you not sell?

MUSHROOM

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Liverpool should sell Suarez to the highest bidder for the best price we can receive for him, if that happens to be Arsenal, then so be it. By the way, i'm in the minority that doesn't want him sold at all.

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Seems the problem is on the valuation though MUSHROOM.
Seems some ignorant "fans" want to get rid whatever the price.
The player wants to leave fair enough. But we won't sell for peanuts. 45m+ pounds is what is fair.

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24 Jul 2013 10:10:16
Brisbane LFC.
Count me in Bro

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24 Jul 2013 00:15:29
I think Rodgers has played a blinder with Suarez. We were always going to sell the player; he had made it pretty clear he didn't want to stay so it was a question of getting the best fee. BRs press conference where he dropped in Cavanis fee was ingenious! Two weeks ago I thought 35m was all we were going to get, now we might just get 50m and Real haven't started bidding yet! Ok we lose a very good player no doubt, but we can go and 2 or three real top players to replace him, and they won't be suspended for half the season! Well done Brendan, just don't spunk the cash like King Kenny and commoli.

Thanks Neel

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When has suarez been suspened for haalf of season?and if we get 2-3 players to replace him we can only have 11 players on the pitch at a time.

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24 Jul 2013 00:07:47
Thanks for apologising Ed 052, bendonhasstated he wontbesold for less than cavani.

Despite Suarez's public pleas for a transfer this summer, Rodgers has made it clear that he expects the 26-year-old to honour a contract which still has three years to run.

The Reds value the striker in excess of £50million and unless they receive that kind of bid - coupled with a written transfer request – they won't even consider a deal.

Ynwa

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BR did not say that. He said he values him at the same price or higher. What we accept could be lower. If RM came in with a £45m bid we would likely accept it.

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Could please show me where BR has stated that we will not sell him for less than Cavani?
The interview I saw he said his value should be near Cavani's, not that we wouldn't sell for less.
People read far too much into what is said. All BR is trying to do is get as much money for LS as possible.

MUSHROOM

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24 Jul 2013 00:02:15
Hi Eds, are reporting that we have rejected a 2nd bid from Arsenal for Luis Suarez. Amount quoted is £40,000, 001. any truth in these reports?

Appreciate your feedback.

ChrisG {Ed052's Note - seems so}

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