Liverpool Banter Archive January 24 2018

24 Jan 2018 21:17:39
Just looking at some numbers and Wijnaldum played 21 matches and has 1 goal, Can has played 19 matches and again 1 goal and Hendo has played 16 matches and again 1 goal.
Firstly I think that is a real poor showing from our three most regular midfielders. Taking into account they are certainly not setting the DM world alight so you imagine with all our possession you would think these guys would have more goals than this.
Before everyone blows a fuse and says Mane, Salah and Bobby are banging in the goals I’m saying three midfielders, who are not defensively minded and are not playing very well defensively should, you would imagine, be scoring more than 1 goal each in the league in that amount of games playing for a team with Huge amounts of possession.
This is where I see our main problems at the moment, they don’t defend really well but also don’t attack really well.
Hopefully Keita can add some overdue goals to one of those positions and I think another is needed and if not an attacking mid then a proper defensive mid as the three guys haven’t exactly set the world alight in their defending either.
Changes needed in there and I’m sure Klopp sees it as Keita on the way and he’s not looking bothered about Can moving on.
Here’s hoping with no midfield incomings that Ox can continue to improve as I think already he’s head and shoulders better than the other three.
My opinion guys, love to hear your thoughts!

24 Jan 2018 21:39:07
Wijnaldum is the worst of the bunch in my opinion, he is a magician (Disappearing acts) Should have his own show in Vegas.

24 Jan 2018 21:41:33
Apologies all, I know that was a very long winded slightly repetitive post but I was genuinely amazed at the poor showing on goals scored.

24 Jan 2018 21:47:48
Although I'm not a fan of stats usually, I think it is important for goals to come right through the team so that includes the midfield and defender as well as the attack! We had Coutinho on the way to 15 goals or so probably which was excellent for the team to have. Oxlade is just settling in and he's not going to score 10 goals- not this season anyway! Keita had 8 goals and 8 assists last year which was undoubtedly a big contribution to Leipzig's good season last year. We need a player or two in midfield that can score 10 goals I feel, we had Gerrard in the past, Chelsea had Lampard, Man U had plenty over the years and Man City currently have players like Du Bruyne. All these teams mentioned have had success with a midfielder of this 'ilk' and I think, as you say, we need to address this issue as soon as we possibly can because we can't rely on Salah, Firmino and Mane to bail us out for goals every game!

24 Jan 2018 21:53:42
Yeah but when he came in from Newcastle he was an attacking midfielder, an since with us he been a full back, Def midfielder, centre MD, not his natural positions but still not moaned an got on with it an had more good than bad games, I would like too see him further up the pitch.

24 Jan 2018 22:15:54
The one thing none of them do enough is get into the
Box espically when playing as the 2 In front of the holding
Player you see David Silva get in there De Bruyne same mata the same gini can do it seen it last year v Chelsea and city scored big goals same Newcastle he got in there .

24 Jan 2018 22:25:31
Mcgoveb thanks for the midfield stats. I never got round to looking them up but I knew they were around those figures. The question is now what are the club going to do about it.

Without someone coming in the only answer will be to get one of the front 3 into midfield.

24 Jan 2018 22:50:35
them stats tell us even more about our midfield, not good enough, is all you can say really, I hope next season we have one maybe two new players there, plus the Ox will have really settled in, and we kick on .

24 Jan 2018 22:55:21
you would never believe who I just saw at Liverpool John Lennon airport, and he had a red scarf round his neck, its going to be all over the echo .

24 Jan 2018 23:03:52
It’s not just the goals output, it’s the lack of quality in the final ball and lack of intelligence and nous defensively that is costing us.

24 Jan 2018 23:28:27
It's a perfect example of square pegs in round holes we need a proper holding defensive midfielder with 2 box too box in front or attacking mids who can track back, it's just balance we are looking for but wat we are doing about it I don't know?

25 Jan 2018 00:49:51
If Klopp wants to play a double pivot, then he needs players who think and look to see how they can help rather than just charge blindly forward. At the moment, we have a midfield who seem unwilling (or perhaps unable in the heat of the battle) to think about covering for each other. There has been some improvement eg in covering for the fullbacks. But the big problem in my opinion, is that the midfield haven't worked out how to cover for each other eg if Can goes on one of his charges up field, Wiji should be thinking about whether he needs to settle in behind him. If Can and Wiji are both playing DM then they seem fine with being able to stay back. Its when they are called upon to play flexibly that they have issues. But its even wider spread than that. For example if all the midfield has charged forward then its incumbent on the other players to recognise this and rearrange to cover the hole. Our fullbacks for example seem to be slowly improving in this respect but we need more leaders on the pitch who are willing to call out their team mates on this.

25 Jan 2018 07:43:16
How many goals have kante, pogba, Dembele, diet, wanyama, wilshere, herrera, Fernandinho, bakayoko, drinkwater etc scored this season? Let’s make it a fair comparison.

24 Jan 2018 18:56:42
With the end of January approaching fast I'm concerned that no one else will come in to replace coutinho
After the summer saga the club must have known they would be back for him and we had more than enough time to source a replacement
Yet we are now in a situation where we are entering a crucial time with fixtures coming thick and fast and not replacing a massive player for us.
I think JK is a class act but naive to think we can compete without a replacement.

24 Jan 2018 19:12:13
I agree we need to replace Coutinho but you don’t think the team that beat Manchester City can compete?

24 Jan 2018 19:15:00
I can't agree enough Clee. What are we doing at all?
Bob Paisley. Sold Keegan, Bought Kenny, need I say more?

24 Jan 2018 19:18:48
The team that beat Man City but looked utterly toothless against Swansea, you’re only as good as your last game.

24 Jan 2018 19:21:27
We are well placed in the league and face favourable teams in the cups for progression but we need to mix it up and not replacing coutinho may cost us.

24 Jan 2018 19:30:44
Spot on, Dennis. That is the way football is and people need to understand that and stop acting like it is an exact science. It is not.

Also, Cou cannot be replaced like for like and definitely not in Jan so asking for the impossible will get us nowhere, IMO. If we do get someone, it will be who Klopp wants and thinks can help us and that player may not be a like for like replacement for Cou esp. if you agree that we tried to get Naby in this month and a Cou replacement like for like, he is not.

If we don't get someone, it would mean that there was NO one there TO get that would fit the way Klopp plays cos stop gaps and bandaids are non starters, per Klopp and that is the way it should be, IMO.

24 Jan 2018 19:49:17
Why sell him in January if we can't bring in someone else we are in a great position and playing great football, im not buying into your theory there no one to replace him
The club didn't decide to sell him in the first week in January, it was decided months ago and there's been more than enough time to bring someone in.

24 Jan 2018 20:01:49
Plus ed 2 has been telling us for about 2 years the club was aware of the situation. Let alone we had all summer and until now to address it yet we appear to have failed miserably.

24 Jan 2018 20:06:52
It was a stupid decision to sell Coutinho in this window.
He could've gone this summer. 7 days left to sign a player as good as him or we've Blown top 4 imo
Probably end up Costing us millions in revenue and without champions league no decent players will join anyway.
7 days Reds spend the damn money n secure this top 4.

24 Jan 2018 20:35:41
Brover you are missing the point. Klopp has identified the targets it is now up to the owners and the people they employ to do the deal.

24 Jan 2018 21:19:06
BRover obviously none of us want the club to get someone klopp doesn't want. But our argument is they've had plenty of time to plan for it and it seems at the moment that despite some 'interest' in some players the plan is not to replace at all.

Maybe we will see them cave and just offer the big money everyone is going to be asking for any player we are interested in after selling a player for £142mill.

24 Jan 2018 21:49:57
Do you think Barcelona gave Liverpool 142 million £ in cash in one go? They are paying 120 million euros over 4 year installments, and 40 million euros in add ons, most of which will happen if Coutinho plays 100 games for them, he could easily play 90 and then get sold to f. eks Chelsea or Manchester City for the same amount Barcelona would've then paid for him (135 million euros) . In 3 years time i see those fees being completely normal. Anyway, clubs are aware of this and know we don't have 142 million £ from Coutinho's sale or whatever, they are overpriced for all teams, Arsenal were after Lemar for ages and in my opinion bid the 100 million euros because they knew that would ruin our chances of getting him. (As they were fully aware he was interested in joining Liverpool at the time) That why Lemar is valued as highly as he is, nothing to do with Coutinho. VVD would have cost Manchester City 69 million euros in transfer fees, Liverpool paid/ will pay 79 million euros to Southampton, the price is higher because of the tapping up and the complaint to the FA and the embarrassment of going back for him after the official statement of removing all interest. That's why he cost us more, again nothing to do with Coutinho.

24 Jan 2018 21:53:11
Exactly jordz. No other top side would sell their best player of the last few seasons and not replace him. We are left with a midfield that is not good enough to make to top 4. Whether the front 3 can compensate for that remains to be seen.

24 Jan 2018 22:32:43
Legendary no I don’t but the manager of a few top premier league teams have said themselves have been saying the market dictates the prices. Coutinho deal was part of that market. Do you think Barcelona would of paid 142 mill (however it’s structured) for coutinho if they hadn’t sold neymar for what they did? Would Liverpool of payed thetop price for VVD if we didn’t know there was a high chance of selling coutinho for what we did? Guess we will never know for sure but I’d expect any business to think about that sort of thing.

Indirectly it’s all played it’s part along with tv deals. The prices being negioated wouldn’t be happening if it wasn’t for the deals such as neymar and now coutinho in my opinion. These prices are already normal for players with a certain reputation.

Personally tho I’d like Lemar if we can’t afford him then the club should still of had an attempted replacement that we can afford.

24 Jan 2018 22:42:26
It's games where the teams sit back, organise well and defend and look to scrape a goal knowing we are still liable at the back. Was couts in the past who came up with some magic usually to get us a goal and open things up. That said we have enough quality in the front 3 they need to try and fill the gap. Our MF could use some creativity definitely though. Gini isn't playing in the same role he was at Newcastle, Can i feel could have more goals but is played a lot in DM given hendo is out and hendo is struggling with injuries. I can't remember the exact poster but they highlighted these 3 only have 3 goals which is frustrating you'd like your MF to chip in more! and we know we are still shaky at the back but these are clear problems which you would hope we can solve. I never like thinking things are over till that last minute like the instabul final, but it looks like the prem title is maybe out of reach now. So hopefully we can push on in the cups and finish top 4. If we can sort out our defence and add more goals and creativity in MF. Definitely could content. Frustrating to keep waiting but i feel we are in a decent position!

24 Jan 2018 23:08:12
Bang on Mark, I have said it before, that Liverpool as a club makes so many basic errors each and every season, that's its a very difficult task to win the Premiership, we mess up some way, again, we are on the edge, of finishing 4th or 5th, so any mess up will cost us big time .
yes Couts had to go, but please, bring in his replacement, we messed up when Sterling left, the only real winger we had at that time, got about 50 million, yet never replaced like for like, when the suarez left, we got big money, yet brought in poor players .

24 Jan 2018 23:32:53
Makes me laugh how some of you are talking like the transfer window is already over. Last minute deals do happen or have some of you never heard of that? for the record I don't believe we will get anybody else BUT we don't know do we? it is what it is, if we don't get anybody else in, it's out of our control, we continue and we support the club through thick and thin, we just have to get on with it.

We beat Man City 4-3 so it shows how capable we are even without Coutinho, we had an off day the other day and yes it was a terrible result but this happens, chill out, it's football, go support another sport if you can't handle us losing a bloody game.

If we go and sign a Coutinho replacement this month, for 10 million none of you will be happy, you want a 90+ million signing, leave it out. It's starting to get pretty pathetic now, forget the money, trust the club, trust Klopp. I do. Think of the TEAM we have now since Klopp came in, call him what you want, he's built/ building a team here. It really makes me laugh, all this talk, half of it is because we lost against Swansea lol get over it.

25 Jan 2018 04:16:05
All this bickering back and forth over nothing. 3 sunmer windows for klopp to have his ssquad, or at least to judgr him properly. We can play the couldv or shouldv game all we wwant, but some of ya still act like liverpool can just walk up to anyone and get any player we want when we want it. We have started to show that we are getting our targeted players.

26 Jan 2018 16:43:41
Mark, the owners don't do a damn thing and are not involved in who we sign and who we let go. Klopp and his team along with Michael Edwards are those who handle that. The owners don't do a thing so stop mentioning them. It is becoming tired and infuriating hearing the same pathetic talking point as if FSG actually sign players.

24 Jan 2018 18:25:47
Can I just say a belated happy birthday to benny baller! Oh and while I am talking about benny, please don't forget about the charity match if you have not paid up your match fees could you do so please!

24 Jan 2018 18:29:04
Happy Birthday Benny.

24 Jan 2018 18:41:38
Happy Birthday Benny! 2 days later and you would've been born on the 26th. Legends are born on the 26th of January. So I'm told 👀.

24 Jan 2018 18:59:41
Happy birthday Benny. MK my younger brother too have birthday on 26 Jan. Happy birthday to you too in advance I like your articles keep it up we need them.

24 Jan 2018 19:25:25
Happy birthday Mr Benny baller I hope one had a good day of birth. All the best for the year ahead.

24 Jan 2018 19:31:10
Happy B Day, BB.

24 Jan 2018 20:14:43
Hmmmm, I suspect some are craving some birthday wishes and loving on a certain day.

24 Jan 2018 21:53:54
Happy Birthday BB, glad to see you arrived before the end of the window 🤩.

24 Jan 2018 18:09:34
Question for the ignorant (I'm Australian, forgive me), I've seen a bit about strengthening our spine. In Aussie rules football the spine is the 6 central players out of 18 from full back to full forward. Teams very rarely change formation, and when done it is usually dropping a player back to act as the 7th defender.

So what constitutes a spine in this game? Is it dependent upon the formation used or does it just mean every central player? Does a 5-3-2 have a spine of 7 or 5 or 4? Thanks for any replies and keep up the great work eds.

{Ed002's Note - It means the central players goal, centre back, central midfield and centre forward.}

24 Jan 2018 17:41:46
Long time reader but post very occasionally. Hi eds hope you are all well. Ed01 sorry to hear about your loss and I know you will fight it my heartily support with you. Eds if you may allow I know Lazio is doing very well this season and the fella sevic is getting all the praise rightly so. I m interested to know from any of ed or reds about the filipe Anderson the Brazilian AMF who got rave review 1/ half year ago. How he regress and its good to see both Lucas and Alberto doing well. Thanks all the reds to make this site a great read I desperately hook up with this site because of all of you.

{Ed002's Note - Ed001 will no doubt thank you for your best wishes. You are on the wrong page for the questions - this is the Liverpool page.}

24 Jan 2018 18:39:45
Thanks ed02 I will ask it on European page. But thanks for posting it hear too as in general I want to know the opinion of any of the poster who is watching Lazio as the player was hot property around last year. Thanks again ed02 for all the tireless work you put in for us really appreciate that.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome - they can follow you to the correct pages.)

24 Jan 2018 13:28:34
Hi Ed's,

First time poster so go easy! I was just wondering if you could offer any insight into the perception of the club from other top teams around Europe, particularly in the context of signing players from us. It seems that once our best performers get linked to say Barcelona or Real Madrid, there is a sad inevitability that they will end up there. Recent examples being Alonso, Arbeloa, Mascherano, Suarez, Coutinho; and a lot of noise now surrounding Salah. With the exception of perhaps Ronaldo and Henry (which are quite dated now) it doesn't seem like the rest of the top 6 have this issue to the same extent. Are we considered an easier target because we haven't challenged for silverware enough in the last decade or is it purely down to us having more of the types of players who will suit those teams better?

Thanks in advance for any comments!

{Ed002's Note - They think about the players rather than the club and it is the same whether Derby are looking to sign Wisdom or Real Madrid considering Salah - so it is not really the perception of the club they are thinking about. Real Madrid and Barcelona have interest in players from other top 6 sides and transfers will happen in both directions like they often have. But you are right, players want to be playing at the highest level and challenging to win competotions.}

24 Jan 2018 20:27:05
Thanks Ed much appreciated!

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome

24 Jan 2018 21:38:16
To be honest i'm already tired of this Salah nonsense, if a decent bid comes in sell him, his heart is not in it and 90 million Egyptians want him to leave to Real Madrid because they don't know any better, his performances will suffer with those distractions. Even the president of the Egyptian F. A is making comments probably directly from Salah. Sick of it all. Never seen anything like this in my life, horrible mentality.

25 Jan 2018 10:52:27
Embarrassing Legendary. Genuinely embarrassing.

24 Jan 2018 12:29:36
mr dennis,

in response to one of your posts recently about spurs and chelsea having much stronger starting 11's, midfields, cb, gk - remind me why that isn't reflected in the league table?

the last time I checked we're above spurs and a matter of 3 points behind chelsea after 2/ 3 of the season played.

either we're performing above what should be expected (in which case what are you moaning about) .

OR

having the best individual players doesn't really matter and it's about how you perform as a team.

either way our situation isn't as disastrous as many would have us believe.

24 Jan 2018 12:40:37
Our situation is not as good as you think either. The truth is somewhere in between. We have a massive battle for fourth that is the level we are at.

24 Jan 2018 12:42:19
I just said the same thing in the initial thread.

2 of Mr dennis’s Factual statements were to forget about Virgil as he was nailed on for city and to forget about a victory against the cos we had no chance.

I’m learning to realise there isn’t much backing these statements up, least of all the latest one.

24 Jan 2018 13:02:39
Yes we have a battle for 4th, same as 4 other teams. Most have been ther more consistently than us in recent years. Difference being I think we’re on the up and most of them on the down now. There is only one team we’re not at the same level with ( consistently) is city and we beat them so we are more than capable. To say the others are ahead of us as a team is just plain wrong.

24 Jan 2018 13:05:01
I judge a squad by how many players it has who you would say are world class OR top 10 in the world in their position OR get in any team OR however else you want to classify a top, top player!

Chelsea have Kante, Hazard, Azpilicueta and Courtois (4 total)

United have De Gea, Pogba and now Sanchez (3 total)

Spurs have Lloris, Alderweireld and Kane (3 total)

Liverpool have Salah, Firmino and Mane (3 total)

Arsenal have Ozil (1 total)

City have Walker, Silva, De Bruyne, Aguero, Sane and Sterling (6)

This is why City will win the league. Not because when they make a sub they can bring on Bernardo instead of Lallana. City will win the league because they have at least 6 players in their starting XI who could walk into nearly every side in Europe.

Our problem is that if you look at the rest of the teams, they have their top, top players spread through the team; attackers, midfielders, defenders or keepers. All of our quality is up top. Maybe Van Dijk and Keita can change that and put us closer to competing with Man City but right now, we're top heavy which is why we were the only team able to simply outscore Man City. It is also why i agree with Mr Dennis that the other sides, right now, have better starting line-ups. They are more balanced than we are. You can kill team by simply cutting the supply to the front 3.

Aside from Man City though, i think we are good enough to compete with everyone else in the league over 38 games.

24 Jan 2018 13:31:02
Salah, Firmino and Sane are WORLD class?!
We are miles off agreeing what constitutes a world class player .
Three good players, one of which is having a great season . Not one is world class .

24 Jan 2018 13:43:48
We did up until recently have 4 with Couts. With VVD in the mix we are more than capable of competing with the other big 5. Finishing outside of the top four this season would be a disaster. With Keita and a top goalie in the summer we should be contending for the title next season for sure. Top 4, CL and FA cup finals this season will be more than satisfactory.

24 Jan 2018 14:06:16
If you’re going to question that lastman, surely you should question Walker and Sterling?

I think the point that MK makes us valid to an extent though, it’s about how many in the team that can be considered game changers week in week out vs. just very good footballers. Our problem is clearly we lack game changers in midfield (except perhaps Lallana at a push) compared to City who have KDB, Chelsea with Kante/ Hazard, Man Utd with Pogba etc. and of course at GK where most of the top 5/ 6 have one.

24 Jan 2018 14:18:50
I actually called them top, top players (i only alluded to the fact that others classify that as world class) .

My very first point made it clear that don't care how people classify, quantify or define what constitutes a top player. Some say world class, some say top class, some say something entirely different. I really don't care whether our definitions of a subjective term are totally aligned. That is splitting hairs to the point where it almost isn't worth debating with you.

I really don't care what word or phrase you would use to describe Salah, Firmino and Mane, or whether you think a word i didn't even use is the wrong word. My point is that they are a certain 'level' of player (whatever you want to call that 'level' is your prerogative) and that i personally judge a team by how many players they have that are of that 'level'.

Some people judge a team by the quality of their best player, some believe a team is only as strong as the weakest link, some judge a team by the quality of the options on the bench. They are all fair arguments. I've always been a believer that you need a spine of top players, and as long as you have that, you will win games and trophies. We don't have a very well balanced spine which is why we don't win trophies. As i say, hopefully Van Dijk and Keita are the players to change that.

24 Jan 2018 14:24:20
Depends on what your interpretation of world class is? I would say if you have the ability to walk into any squad in the world then you're WC. Salah, Firmino, Mane and VVD would walk into any squad worldwide.

24 Jan 2018 14:13:12
MK’s posts are getting worse.

24 Jan 2018 15:07:14
Exactly Red Reaper. Nice to see someone capable of interpreting another persons point without it having to be spelt out to them 😂 the internet needs more like you.

Same to you SGred. That is exactly what i meant. The fact that Spurs, United and Chelsea all have a top keeper shows how important it is. Ederson and Cech are both good keepers, but I'm not sure they are in that top class of player. Cech was once upon a time, and Ederson certainly could be though. Our 'game changers', as you defined it, are all attackers/ forwards. We need more balance to win the title. I still think we can beat anyone on our day though so we have a shot at the cup competitions, and i still think we can finish 2nd because although Chelsea have more top quality players than us, they're missing a player who scored goals. Hazard and Morata have 18 league goals combined. That's only one more than Salah has to himself!

I think people are picking apart Mr Dennis's argument and twisting words he said immediately after a defeat (when everyone isn't explaining things exactly how they mean them) whilst he clearly isn't around to defend himself. His point was that our rivals have stronger starting XI's. Whilst that is only in his opinion, it is hardly a wild suggestion that deserves to be belittled. It's a perfectly fair argument. Our midfield and defence is not as good as our rivals. Luckily, our attack is so good its enough to cover that up most weeks.

24 Jan 2018 15:39:28
Well ok then applying that logic I’d argue the other top teams have more of those players than Liverpool .
And Red Reaper, those three players would not walk into Man City, Man United, Chelsea, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus and possibly even Tottenham or Bayern Munich first team, you said Squad . which is already saying more than you prob realise . So congrats on having just three players that might go into squad numbers in other teams .

24 Jan 2018 15:08:41
@Lastsanemanalive

Definitely world class players as it stands, surely the term "world class" means something along the lines of "Up there with the best players in the world" or "Would get into any team".

Can you honestly tell me that none of the elite teams would want those 3 players? Ill give you PSG as they have Mbappe, Neymar and Cavani and maybe Real with Ronaldo, Benzema and Bale but those 3 won't be at the top much longer. Salah Mane and Firmino are 25,25 and 26 respectively.

24 Jan 2018 16:00:00
Lmanalive, Lallana is a good player so is Can and Hendo. The aforementioned super 3 are top class players and would absolutely walk into any of the top six prem starting 11, Barcelona and Madrid, Munich, Juve etc. As would VVD. This really isn't difficult to grasp.

24 Jan 2018 12:38:42
Good most mate.

24 Jan 2018 16:16:28
Red reaper it is impossible to grasp the logic that those three players would walk into any top teams first 11. If that was the case just like Coutinho, they would be in one of those top teams .
11 places in a team . Liverpool have 3 of those places as the best in the world yeah?
Walk into ANY first 11.
I think I’m done entertaining this biased ludicrous Logic .

{Ed001's Note - try showing logic yourself. Just because they could walk into the top teams first 11 does not mean they would be there. Basically by your 'logic', anyone who doesn't play for a top team clearly isn't good enough. So N'Golo Kante obviously only actually became any good when he signed for Chelsea. And Coutinho was not good enough to walk into their first 11 until he signed for them. I wish you were done because you are embarrassing yourself.}

24 Jan 2018 16:04:49
Would u have any of the Utd defenders ahead of ours? I wouldn’t. De Gea all day long. He, Matic and negative tactics at times are the reasons why they are defensively sound. I definitely think we are on the right road. VVD has only played 2 games but in both those games he has shown how good he can be. Our goalkeeper will be resolved in the summer hopefully.

Midfield is the key area both defensively and attacking wise against teams that sit in. Keita will help with his driving runs but we need Another who can pull the strings and dictate play whilst being able to put his foot in too. Can, Wini and Ox are very similar and will be tailor made for playing top teams in CL but it’s a squad game and we lack variety in midfield. I have watched a lot of Keita and he looks the business albeit with plenty of room to further inprove.

Personally I believe the other teams are as worried about us as we are them. If we can pick ourselves up and beat Huddersfield and Spurs then all is rosy again. Too much overreaction to 1 defeat in 19 games. No team will win every game and they will all drop unexpected points .

Had a laugh listening to Talksport this am. Just like last year no one going for us to finish top 4. Chelsea are ‘back’ after being a brutal Brighton team and Utd are Certs by signing Sanchez despite the array of attacking options all at Jose’s disposal all season long.

We are well in the mix which is the main thing and I don’t see why a lot on here are so negative.

Come on u red men.

24 Jan 2018 16:32:25
Well said Noshbag and Reaper.

Smplfc, i just wanted to thank you for caring so much about what i post that you can even remember what I've posted previously.

24 Jan 2018 16:33:16
Actually Redroon, I would contend that Bailly ant Valencia would walk into our defence. Matic and Pogba are both streets ahead of any of our centre midfield options and we’ll not mention De Gea. The only thing we have better are our attackers, if they have an off day, we’re done for. As witnessed on Monday. I hope we get top four, but since there’s now a blue print on how to deal with us, I can see pretty much every team we are lay trying to adopt that and I don’t think we have the quality or options to counter act that.

24 Jan 2018 16:40:08
Don't see the issue with MKs post to be honest makes a lot of sense, granted everyone will view players in different lights, I can't say I would agree with the defining of the players MK has picked but I understand the point.

Roll on the summer and let's hope to get a decent keeper and someone to partner NK in midfield.

I would be happy with those two positons being addressed and retaining our core 11-15 current players.

24 Jan 2018 16:52:52
Ed001 you’re twisting what I said to fit into your response .
Firstly thanks for confirming you yourself do not consider Liverpool a ‘top team ‘
Kante and Coutinho are better players than the ones in question.
It is my opinion that those three wouldn’t walk into any of the top teams . Because if they did in each team you’d have to drop players much better than said 3 .
Messi, Sánchez, Ronaldo, Hazard, Messi, de Bruyne, dybala etc.
What was said by red reaper is all 3 would secure first 11 places which would mean due to the positions they play all the players I mentioned would lose their spot . that wouldn’t happen.

{Ed001's Note - I was going by your criteria and I twisted nothing, that was what you said. Who would Chelsea have to drop to fit Salah or Mane in? No one. Dybala is in and out of the Juve team already, so clearly you do not know what you even talking about with regards to them. By the way, this is the Juve that have been so desperate to sign a midfielder that Liverpool do not think is good enough and you are using them as a yard stick! It is pointless discussing this as you clearly have no idea what you are even trying to say either. De Bruyne does not even play in the same position as any of them! Are you just taking the mick now?}

24 Jan 2018 17:10:28
Ed 001 . All 3 would walk into ANY top teams first 11.
That what was said .
Not one or two but alll three . They wouldn’t .
That is my opinion, I’m sure there is plenty of football fans that would agree with me . I’m sure there is plenty of Liverpool fans that would not .

{Ed001's Note - does it say all 3 at once? Perhaps reading comprehension is not your strong point either.}

24 Jan 2018 17:33:14
Last man standing using Real Madrid as an example and they want to sign Salah, he's off his rocker. Ronaldo is 33 and not what he once was. Hazard and Sanchez aren't scoring at the rate of Salah so what's the measuring stick for who's better? I assume you are a united supporter so I'm not sure why I'm trying to reason with you because it won't work.

24 Jan 2018 18:12:30
I think he's having you on Ed1, or I'd like to think so at least lol.

24 Jan 2018 18:21:49
Thanks Ed1. That right made me chuckle on my way home reading all that.

{Ed001's Note - glad you enjoyed.}

24 Jan 2018 18:53:11
It’s not hard to remember MK when you’re the second post on almost every thread ;)

I don’t know how you fit the time in with all the European football you watch too.

Happy birthday in advance for Friday!

24 Jan 2018 18:56:09
Mr Dennis,

I’m talking about our defence, Valencia is not a right back and constantly gets caught by stronger teams. Bailly is unproven as yet . De Gea is a no brainer and I agree about their centre mid being stronger than ours. Our defence player for player is every bit as good if not better. Wouldn’t either of the 2 u names nor small if, Jones, shaw, Lindelof, young anywhere near a Liverpool team.

24 Jan 2018 20:53:55
Redroon- I would have Valencia over Gomez or TAA, Bailly over Matip, Jones over Lovren, Smalling over Klaven, Young over Moreno and Shaw over Robertson and the worst thing about that is I don’t rate Utds defence, so that tells you what I think of ours.

25 Jan 2018 11:26:54
Have to agree to Disagree. Ashley Young! R u for real? Whilst some of those match ups are close it just shows that indivually our defenders aren’t a huge issue it is the men behind them both with terrible shots to saves ratios and the lack of a consistent performer in front of them. Those are the 2 priority issues .

Also Jones and Smalling are terrible .

24 Jan 2018 11:30:12
Question for Ed001,
Top of the day to you. What is your opinion of strengthening further this January? Do we have the squad to stay top 4 and possibly win a cup (Champions League anyone)?

{Ed001's Note - we do have the squad to do that, but it would be a lot easier if we improved it. The midfield desperately needs improvement.}

24 Jan 2018 12:05:07
Midfield is the key area for me too.

I look at Milner and Wijnaldum and i honestly don't feel any confidence in them. With Can only showing up for games which will attract global interest (such as the City game) he will no doubt perform just fine in the Champions League when potential suitors are watching, but i have serious doubts in his commitment when we face teams like Swansea or Stoke.

I haven't completely given up hope that we may get Keita this month or even sign an additional midfielder nobody is expecting.

24 Jan 2018 12:11:16
Summer time - strengthen the spine of the team with 3 quality players, 4 if Karius isn't up to the job.

A new CB, DM/ CM and a backup or different type of Forward to what Firmino brings.
(I would like this backup/ rotating Forward to come in this window personally) .

24 Jan 2018 12:11:44
Is it as simple as paying £20m to bring in Keita? Or has that ship sailed for this window?

24 Jan 2018 12:54:08
City are walking the league.
They're trying to recruit with no major departures.
Man Utd are second. Strengthening.
Chelsea are third. Trying to target a big man. (I guess it's panicking but they know they need someone)
Arsenal. Lost a player of Coutinhos stature. Now they're recruiting. (Granted they're squad is in dire shape. but they're still looking) if they sort the defence then they'll be challenging top four.
They're not going to sign players like Auba, Mik and whomever else and not compete.
Tottenham have the depth in their squad to still challenge fourth.

We have let two (Normally first team starters) first team players leave.
We've strengthened the defence but the game against Swansea show we still lack composure and lose concentration.
If Klopp seriously thinks this squad can take us to top four he's mistaken.

Pep whose walking the league is even thinking this isn't won just yet.
I've tried to be understanding I really have.
We can't afford to waste this window.

24 Jan 2018 13:07:01
Who’s the second regular player that starts who’s left? Have I missed something?

24 Jan 2018 13:15:18
Why is it taking so long? This replacement should have been 99% in the bag, we knew he was leaving 12 months ago.

24 Jan 2018 13:51:30
Welsh. Its coutinhos shadow.

24 Jan 2018 14:08:41
I totaly agree with all what's said on here. Reality is we are not replacing him. Klopp knows best as he is our Manager, if we fail to finish top4 then Klopp carrys the can for not bringing in a player to strengthen.

Arsenal are about to bring in Auba and possibly another. Utd have Sanchez. Top3 are virtually done imo and we are playing for 4th spot with Spurs and Arsenal.

24 Jan 2018 12:57:48
Anyone got the guts to ask ed001 what we are all dying to learn lol, in responce to his reply to the OP. 🤔.

{Ed001's Note - I don't know, have they? :-P

24 Jan 2018 13:17:03
Ed001 who would you like to see come in out of players that are realistically attainable in jan.

{Ed001's Note - I would like us to go get Ndidi, but he is probably not going to be attainable in January, so why not Nampalys Mendy? Failing that, someone like Obiang would be a big improvement and provide some hustle and bustle and intensity.}

24 Jan 2018 16:05:02
Whats your thoughts on Abdoulaye Doucouré from Watford Ed1? I like Obiang and agree he would help no end.

{Ed001's Note - good player, excellent player in fact, but not attainable in January. If he was he would be the one I would go for, rather then Mendy or Obiang.}

24 Jan 2018 16:18:05
Well I certainly haven't ed lol. i've asked enough mate😂. Im just prepared to see what develops now mate on the final week, and have accepted we have our lot.

{Ed001's Note - but I don't know what the question is..... :-P

24 Jan 2018 16:30:42
Agree think he is a great player and could really add something to the midfield, doesn't get many of the plaudits that he deserves similar to Obiang in that sense.

Still some great options out there in so called lesser teams but the summer window will no doubt be the time to trade.

{Ed001's Note - sadly we will probably ignore them.}

24 Jan 2018 16:34:28
Milner as a centre midfield option makes me feel sick. He’s just not up to the job.

24 Jan 2018 17:00:05
Ok ed since you have forced me into it lol. Are we actually still trying to strengthen this window, if so who.

{Ed001's Note - hahaha we are but don't get excited, I don't expect much other than maybe another youngster. Klopp would rather wait for the right players than just buy for the sake of it, as he showed with VVD.}

24 Jan 2018 17:24:35
Cheers ed, that will do for me mate.

24 Jan 2018 17:56:48
and do you agree with that approach Ed1? personally I do, as much as I'd like us to strengthen our team with X player (s), I think it's dangerous to go and panic buy and get somebody who just isn't right for us. I'd rather us take the months from now until summer to look over what options we have who can really benefit the starting 11 and go for them in the summer.

{Ed001's Note - yes very much so.}

24 Jan 2018 18:08:31
Sorry ed a youngster for the academy/ U23's right.

{Ed001's Note - yes mate.}

24 Jan 2018 23:05:08
Milner, Is just getting on a little bit, Not the sort of creativity either. Puts in a good shift. Same with Hendo, works hard and is vocal but i always feel i want a bit more from him. So when you play them both together we can struggle to make things happen.

Gini i don't think has had the best season. But he's not playing the attacking role like he was at NC, so when we signed him i think a lot of us myself included, expecting more goals from him. I think he's a decent player though, not PC but decent but has gone missing this season in games.

Lallana has been injured so can't comment.

Ox i was never too much of a fan tbh, thought we should just give woodburn the game time. He impressed a lot in the city game but under performed against Swansea as did most of our team. Watching him against city he has it in him. Just can he do it consistently.

I really rate can, accept he has lapses in judgement but i just like how he drives and offers something a bit different from the other Cm we have, wants to move the ball forward more as appose to hendo. Though i know a lot of people are not a fan, Klopp not sold either by the looks of it. Which is fair enough He's the manager not me!

So we have decent players but given PC has left definitely room for improvement, we need more creativity and goals in the MF for sure!

I'm dreaming about Isco, but you have to question how he would cope switching from la liga to the prem.

Lemar looks a tidy player but we will see in summer what happens. Jan looks to be a finished window for us.

I'll have to search through the comments someone asked Ed2 to suggest a player, can't remember the context he might have been an attacker but after watching some highlights, i know YT always makes them look better he was infact a bit of a baller i think! If i can find him, ill reply to my post with him, would be interesting to see everyone else's opinions on who could maybe add some creativity to the MF!

24 Jan 2018 09:35:30
I have always loved Firmino, he brings so much to the team, it's not always about goals and to me he is one of the best players we've had in a very long time and this season is without a doubt his best with us so I have a question.

Does anybody else think he is better without Coutinho on the pitch? I really think he is, not just now but when Coutinho was out for the games he was the first half of the season it seemed to me Firmino played better. I'm not calling Coutinho in any way, I'm just saying without him Firmino is even better!

Just my opinion, thoughts?

24 Jan 2018 09:58:22
Maybe Firmino is better but I see Salah and Mane suffering from the loss of Coutinho more.

They will make the runs in behind but the ball won't come as often as it did with Coutinho.

24 Jan 2018 10:06:35
Not really, I see what you're saying but tbh I think he's top class no matter who is around him. It's a shame that so many of our talented youngsters are in positions where they would replace him, because most of them could learn a thing of two about attitude and application from him if they got a lot of time to play together.

24 Jan 2018 12:03:00
As Ed01 has said, Bobbie is top class and we should be signing players of his calibre at every position needing strengthening and Salah, Mane, Naby and hopefully VVD, are a good start.

24 Jan 2018 12:14:24
Firmino need to play as no.10 to thread passes to Salah and mane. He can't do everything to press to thread and to score.

24 Jan 2018 12:43:34
He didn't do any of those things agains't Swansea.

24 Jan 2018 12:57:25
markp08, 1 game he didn't do much sure, but neither did the rest of the team. I just knew somebody would bring up the Swansea game but we're talking in general.

24 Jan 2018 13:47:06
In general I agree that Bobby is the man for us up top, but for games like Swansea, we need to mix it up. We either need to increase the creativity we have in the middle of the park now that Couts has gone, hopefully Lallana can do this for the rest of the year. Or start whipping some balls into the box for someone like Ings/ Solanke. I was dying a little inside against Swansea the amount of time our fullbacks didn’t whip crosses in when they had he chance, and when they did no-one was there for them. I’m afraid it will continuously come up over and over again regardless of how good he is, Bobby is not a striker! On that note, in games like the Swansea one, TAA needs to be starting g over Gomez as his delivery is probably the best in the squad currently.

{Ed0333's Note - with the benefit of hindsight inns for Bobby from the start against the swans would have been a good idea.

24 Jan 2018 15:18:48
When the best Club in the last 20 years starts knocking on the door chucking £150million at us for Firmino I'll agree with you. But Coutinho is better mate sorry, Bobby is hit n miss and that's why he is here and Phil has been sold for the second biggest Transfer Fee in history.

{Ed001's Note - or it could be because he plays in a position and style that they need, whereas Bobby doesn't. However that wouldn't fit in with your silly comment, which is as ridiculous as saying a player must be crap because he plays for, say, Fleetwood Town, like so many did about Vardy.}

24 Jan 2018 18:04:15
Did I just read that right? Coutinho is better then Firmino? lol I don't think so mate, Coutinho on his day is a great player granted, but he's no Firmino. This isn't me been bitter because Coutinho has left, its the truth, in my eyes atleast. I wish Coutinho the best at Barcelona I have no hard feelings so please don't think I'm going down that route but to me, Firmino offers so much more then him, like I said in the original post it's not all about goals.

I have read on here so many people who doubt Firmino, I think now Coutinho is out of the mix he's really going to surprise a lot of people even more then he already has this season. Only problem with this is, the elite teams WILL come knocking, and that frightens me somewhat.

24 Jan 2018 08:41:47
I thought I'd just write a bit about Ezri Konsa. I know a few Charlton Athletic fans who go regularly, but have only seen his highlights myself.

Anyway, they all reckon Konsa is better than Joe Gomez ever was. I did try and point out to them that Gomez left them at 18 years old and Konsa is already 20, but they wouldn't have it.

To me, he looks like he could turn out to be either a very good right back, or a top class centre back. He could just as easily make minimal improvements though and never reach is potential, as with all young players. He is a big unit, but he's also pretty quick across the turf, and he's very comfortable on the ball. I think the main reason they all think he is better than Gomez is because he is much more rugged. He is one of those players who you get the impression that he feels more satisfaction when he nails a tackle or blocks a shot, rather than when he plays a great pass. There is a bit more heart to his game than Gomez, but for me a little less composure.

Konsa has made around 30 appearances for the Charlton first team already this season. Mainly at centre back, but about a quarter of his games have been at right back. So he certainly won't be (or at least, shouldn't be) moving anywhere unless he is going to get first team chances. I certainly wouldn't be advising him to move if he is just going to sit in the stands, or be relegated to reserve team football.

Charlton are producing some good players of late. Lookman and Gomez to name a few. Konsa looks like he's next off the conveyer belt, and if Liverpool manage him correctly, we would be getting a top talent.

24 Jan 2018 11:28:56
I would reallly hope for a deal with minimum 6 months loan back.

I have heard good things as well but he is learning so much with regular game time so to bring him in and use him in the U23’s would stunt his developement.

24 Jan 2018 12:11:14
I tend to agree Southern Red. My only fear there is that the Charlton faithful might turn on him for the rest of the season.

Personally i think we would be better off putting a deal in place with Charlton and keeping it behind closed doors, then just finalise it in the summer. Same principal as moaning him back, but without the kid having to deal with abusive knuckle draggers.

24 Jan 2018 08:24:32
Having now calmed down after Mondays game I have to say an this isn't a knee jer reaction y the way is that we still need to buy a couple players. I looked at our bench on Monday an to be honest it's very weak. We brought on lallana, ings not a goal between them all season the only other option was solanke another goalless player. If we really have ambitions to push on for top four, Fa cup, champions league we need better quality back up.

24 Jan 2018 09:14:51
word for word from the anfield wrap.

24 Jan 2018 09:59:10
That's not really the whole "truth" though is it mate. Lallana, Solanke and Ings have about 500 minutes of Premier football combined and just 3 starts from my memory.

Solanke has all 3 of those starts and he was arguably one of the best players on the pitch against Stoke. He created the first goal, and should've created a second if Mane hadn't missed an absolute sitter, 1 on 1. You can't expect much more than that from a 19 year old who isn't getting a chance to build up any form of rhythm.

These players haven't had enough of a chance this season to pass judgement on whether they are good enough back ups or not. That is because Mane and Sturridge have been the preferred back ups before now, and they have plenty of goals between them (12). With Coutinho leaving, Mane now gets regular first team football again and Lallana assumes the role of back up now he's fit, whilst Sturridge potentially leaving gives Ings a chance to show us what he can do, finally.

When Henderson is fit, Gini will be another option on the bench. I have absolute faith in Lallana, Ings, Solanke, Arnold, Woodburn, Gini, Moreno, Lovren and Klavan to be our back ups or come off the bench. My only worry is that we don't really have a midfielder who can come on and shore us up as a team to see out a game. Milner is no Lucas, and he should be replaced so we have all bases covered. It doesn't necessarily have to be a destroyer like Lucas, it could be a player who will just isn't a total headless chicken. Hopefully we can still push through the deal for Keita before the end of the window, just to give us a bit more depth in that area, as he'd probably take Can out of the starting XI, so Emre can be that destroyer on the bench.

You can't just say "they've got no goals" without any context or elaboration. It's a lazy statement that doesn't tell the story of why they have no goals. These mostly aren't players who been blessed with 10-15 starts this season. They're mostly players just returning from injury, or who have been getting 5 minutes here and there when a game is dead and the tempo has slowed down to a walking pace. The players who have been the main back ups so far (Sturridge, Mane, Milner, Arnold, Klavan, Moreno etc) actually have a decent number of goals and assists. Klopp is freshening up the squad though by moving on Sturridge and Coutinho and as he has said, giving the players already at the club a chance.

I agree with him. Give them a chance first, then if they let us down, we can say we need more quality on the bench. Lallana was a first team player last season, and Ings is a proven double figures striker at Premier League level. If you don't want Woodburn, Arnold and Solanke to get chances off the bench, we should probably just sell them now before we ruin another bunch of kids careers. Otherwise they'll join Teixeira, Grujic, Markovic and Ilori on the scrap heap of talented young players who never got a chance, and were totally now managed by Liverpool.

24 Jan 2018 12:10:13
Brilliant reply, MK. Context is needed . We cannot keep saying that youth should be given a chance and then imply that they are no longer good enuff after we lose one game from 19. Both those statements cannot be correct at the same time, I'm sorry. We also cannot say that we have a good squad through out our unbeaten run and suddenly say it is not deep or good enuff anymore after one loss. Again, both those statements cannot be correct at the same time.

Also, you cannot expect Ings and Lallana who are regaining fitness and are clearly rusty, to score goals in a desperate match. We were poor vs Swansea, end of story. No need pointing fingers at this or that player or what could/ should/ would have happened. We deserved nothing from that game and that was what we got based on the perf. or lack thereof. The response is what matters now and not the finger-pointing. Over to Klopp and the players, IMO.

24 Jan 2018 12:31:02
Agreed BRover. Only players to blame for the Swansea defeat are Firmino, Mane, and Salah for all missing a clear cut chance.

24 Jan 2018 07:32:48
Love all the posts that are claiming “this isn’t a Swansea knee jerk reaction”, when it’s blatant that’s exactly what it is.

After the city game everyone instantly got carried and to be honest a little bit arrogant.

Our performance against them showed that we are on our way to challenging but it was still clear we need 2 or 3 new starting 11 players before we hit that level.

The issue is people are all too quick to get carried away after a great result, and all to carried away after a poor one.

24 Jan 2018 08:39:04
It's not knee jerk mate as similar patterns (beat a top team, flop against less glamorous opposition) have been prevalent throughout Klopp's tenure and it is clearly a huge weakness of the current squad. There is no sensible explanation for a team to play as well as we did against City to then play as poorly as we did against Swansea except motivation and desire. You could see the players against City busting a gut, harrying, pressing, urgency in their game, intent in their passing, fearlessness, risk, etc etc. Against Swansea it was the complete opposite: meek, slow, lazy, labored, unadventurous, unwilling to try something exceptional, safe, hoping to snatch a goal rather than taking the game by the scruff of the neck and forcing one. We do it time and again against the big boys and fail time and again as soon as a team is well organized. Would Coutinho have made the difference? It is difficult to say as he was just as guilty as others as going missing in games BUT he had that ability to make something happen - who were we expecting to make something happen against Swansea? These are issues fans have discussed over the past few months rather than the past few days - its frustrating as a fan to see the heights the team can reach only to watch they dwindle to some really poor lows a week later. I do not see the pattern changing until better players with better mentalities join the club.

Matip does not have the mentality, the jury is out on Robertson, VVD and Gomez (who in particular is playing very poorly and making multiple errors per game at the minute), Wijinaldum has looked woefully short of quality too many times this season and absolutely lacks the mentality, a midfield of Can-Wiji-Ox is bereft of creativity and our forward play will suffer if that is the midfield we play with during the second half of the season, Mane is still miles off his best despite recent goals and doubts are starting to creep in about his mentality. In short we have issues, issues we have had since the summer, issues that continue to manifest themselves on the pitch. Losing Coutinho and seemingly not replacing him will compound such issues. This is not knee-jerk ranting and raving - these are well known, previously discussed issues coming to the fore once again. We may win our next game but consistency is what wins trophies, wins titles, and see's progression - we are miles away from that sort of consistency required and, should we keep losing significant personnel, will continue to lag behind.

24 Jan 2018 12:24:59
seano, the fact that all of the sweeping statements made come directly after the first loss in 18 games makes it 100% knee jerk. there's no 2 ways about it.

just like it's knee jerk to get so cock sure about our team off the back of the city result.

balance is needed.

24 Jan 2018 12:45:59
Seano, I think a bit of perspective is needed here. You say we should replace Cou. My only caveat to that is IF WE CAN cos I assume you know that signing a bandaid will never happen under Klopp so I think people need to to be more measured and take that reality for what it is.

Also, you say many cannot explain why we did not turn up to the Swansea game after we beat City. There are several explanations for that BUT the best one I can think of right now is that Swansea drew us i to playing the type of game they wanted to play and when that happened, we showed a complete lack of patience, composure, smarts and esp. poor decision-making in the final third. You saw players like Salah and Mane taking shots on rather than pass and vice versa, something that rarely happens esp. w/ Salah. We did not do enuff to win and the little we did do, would have only gotten us a point at best, which would not have changed the fact that we were poor from top to bottom. Something like that can happen and this is the first time it has happened to this extent. The other time was vs WBA in a game ironically, Cou actually played in.

Finally and this is where 87red is bang on, many of us are always lose our marbles after a great win or a poor result which is why the yes, knee jerk reactions with no perspective, context or rationale, comes from and sadly, this is the type of reactions we get now from fans who always seem to be in high spirits before a game and when we don't win, they blame, FSG, Klopp the players and even Hendo who did not even play.

This is what Klopp does as it keeps him focused and clear eyed and it seems like very little phases him cos panicking simply does NOT work. Take heart my friend cos we are becoming more consistent as our unbeaten run shows BUT we must react and I am hopeful that we do.

24 Jan 2018 15:42:08
@BRover - fair points mate. Would argue the club should of had better strategies in play to replace Coutinho instead of letting him leave half way through a season without any sort of replacement though.

Maybe it is knee jerk, I know for sure I am peeved we played so poorly, but we have done it before this season against other defensive teams (Burnley at home, Newcastle away, WBA as you mentioned, Everton at home) - the inconsistency is crazy, especially when you know how good the team can be, I think motivation is a big issue but I do think we are insanely light in midfield without Coutinho, it is going to be a really difficult 2nd half of the season - if Can leaves before the window closes then we're really up against it.

I hope you're right though mate - as you say how react to that dire display will tell us much, hopefully we bounce back with a convincing win.

24 Jan 2018 04:41:35
Do the eds still expect us to sign someone during this window as it seems awfully quiet atm.

{Ed0333's Note - I’m keeping my expectations really really low 1978 so when we sign Fekir on January 31st I’ll be the happiest liverpool supporter in the world

24 Jan 2018 08:39:28
We can but hope!

24 Jan 2018 07:26:39
Ed0333 is that your prophesy or just you dreaming? Fekir would be a quality addition. I'll keep my expectations low for further incomming, but my hopes high.

24 Jan 2018 09:58:21
There're any rumors about some talks going on, or it is just out of nowhere? :)

24 Jan 2018 13:04:08
Cheers ed 😂.

{Ed0333's Note - 👍

24 Jan 2018 04:03:31
People can say what they like about elderly care homes, but they are not all bad as our very own Ed0333 can attest. Since going in one he has managed to find love and now, at the ripe old age of 74, he is getting married at the weekend. So congratulations 333 and I hope whatever it is she is being dosed with that made her agree to marry you never runs out! Best of luck mate, she will need it.

24 Jan 2018 04:15:10
Congratulations 333!

{Ed0333's Note - thankyou Aussie I appreciate your best wishes. Ed’s 001 is just bitter and twisted because my wedding is outside and that’s a place he’s never been to for years...OUTSIDE. I did invite him to the nuptials but he’d rather watch football and order take out, clearly he prefers watching 22 muscular young men in tight clothing kick a piece of leather round than come to my wedding! I will be back in a few days and hope to catch up with you all on my return. Unfortunately I’ll miss us play the Baggies but I’ll be checking the phone on the sly for updates, so here’s hoping for a Mane hat-trick. Anyway everyone play nice and see you when I get back.

24 Jan 2018 06:14:18
This site is awesome 😁😁😁.

24 Jan 2018 06:33:21
Congrats big man, hope she's a lovely to you as mine is to me (as she stands behind me watching me type 😆☠ )

24 Jan 2018 06:54:43
Congratulations Ed333!

24 Jan 2018 07:03:16
Good job 333, have a great day.

24 Jan 2018 07:16:35
Haha!
congratulations 333.

24 Jan 2018 08:11:58
Congratulations 333 have a great day 👍.

24 Jan 2018 08:27:05
Congratulations ed, hope you have a great day mate.

24 Jan 2018 08:36:14
Congrats ed333. What lovely news. I hope you and your bride will be very happy together🎉 ❤️🎊.

24 Jan 2018 08:42:37
Congratulations 333,best wishes for a long and happy marriage.

24 Jan 2018 09:12:21
A huge congrats Ed333.

24 Jan 2018 10:52:15
Maybe he isn't going because he is afraid he would take all of the attention away from your wedding.

Congratulations Ed333 and all of the best to you and your wife to be.

24 Jan 2018 10:54:00
Congratulations Ed. I pray you have a happy home. May the years ahead be filled with lasting joy.

24 Jan 2018 06:44:03
Ed0333, let me pass on a few words of advice if I may:
Rather than get married, I would recommend you walk down Church St any busy Saturday afternoon, and the first ugly woman you bump into. buy her a £250,000 house.
It will save you from a 20 year prison sentence, you can watch football whenever yoh want, get your mates in every weekend for a drink, eat pizzas and leave the uneaten crusts on the floor for weeksand. trust me, its also a lot cheaper.

{Ed0333's Note - I’ve just got up off the floor mate that cracked me up. I would take your advice Tel but I have no friends to invite over and don’t eat pizza so I’ll think I’ll be ok mate. Thanks for the chuckle tho

24 Jan 2018 07:57:11
Congrats ed, hope you have an incredible day. I too am making the miserable leap soon enough but worse than that, it’s fallen on the worst day of the year. Reception is on during 6 nations when Ireland start hammering Scotland, and the meal is on at the same time the pool v united match kicks off. 2 years planning just down the drain.

{Ed0333's Note - congrats mate. Hope you have a super day and I agree terrible terrible planning lol.

24 Jan 2018 05:51:22
22 muscular young men in leather sounds like your stag do.

{Ed0333's Note - Your just jealous because you’ll never be young or muscular.