Liverpool Banter Archive February 24 2011

 

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24 Feb 2011 23:56:33
24 Feb 2011 20:39:40
I think watching that tonight was uncomfortably poor for most of us.

During the week which signalled twenty years where Dalglish resigned, there appears to be no difference between a Dalglish led Liverpool and a Hodgson led Liverpool, if we are very brutally honest. This performance was no better than Utrecht away, home etc. That is of course not counting the fans reaction.

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Hello bob, just a couple of points, no it still wasn't a great performance but to compare it to hogdson's style is not giving it full justice.

1: Prague are a better side than we've faced in europa before( we should still be beating them easily though)
2: Alot of our first team player weren't playing, johnston, gerrard (ok some).
3: We deserved a goal, so much earlier, I think N'gog just isn't anywhere near standard for us. espically playing as a lone striker. The lad has got skill but just not enough of a 'game head' on him. He always looks like his trying for showboat instead of trying to score.

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There has been a slightly alarming decline in the standard of our last three performances which have greatly mirrored those of Hodgson's reign. Yet where there were howls of derision with Roy, the fans were actively singing for Dalglish.
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Yes our performances have dropped off but also look at he players we have had to rely on. This doesn't so much tell me about Kenny's managament but our lack of depth

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People don't put enough emphasis on the word 'respect'. But is it there more to it than that?

Are we deluding ourselves tonight because the boss is Dalglish? I mean had Hodgson been manager, we would all be cringing into our beers at the thought of the post match press conference.

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Again I agree but has Kenny said it was a great performance, a European classic? no. He pretty much said we deserved the win, which I agree and it was a lot of hard work put in by the players. We all know its not gonna light up everyone eyes but we've got though. Some of our play wasn't even that bad, I just think we lack quality in the final third. Again N'gog just isn;t the level we need, Cole is so far off match fitness its unbelievable and Kuyt is Hit and miss (good job he was hit tonight, at least for the goal)

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But no doubt not many would be worrying with Dalglish in charge. Tonight shows just how far H&G ruined us on the pitch as well as off it. Let us not be mis-led into thinking we can sneak into Champions League.

There were many performances tonight that clearly show players are either past it or just not upto it, so many in fact that it is truly, truly alarming.

Our lack of quality in depth is there for all to see. You could see it after just 3 mins and 35 secs. This was all it took for Poulsen and Kygiakos to make the first of many unforced schoolboy errors.
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Right, I'm laying my cards out on the table, Kygiajos hasn't been that bad for us all season as I can se it. yes I know pace out does him and in next seasons squad I wanna see Wilson, Ayala or even Wisdom get in in front of him but Soto did a good job for us tonight, won balls in the air and put pressure on their forwards. Do I thnk he's the next Sami, no. Do I think he's done the job he's been asked, yes. Do I think he should be there next season, no, but he didn't put too many feet outta line tonight especially as he has been bought to be a 4th choice. He was brave in the air but next season to get back up to where we should be we need some one who can deal with crosses and pace but untill then Soto has been performing decently.

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Add in Cole (who by the way obviously ran over 13 black cats because how unlucky is he to have a tap in taken off his toe by possibly the third worst player on the park?) who looks a pale shadow of the player he was 5 years ago, Ngog who has not not progressed at all and appears to have gone backwards this season, Kygiakos who is just so worrying as a defender and not just because of his lack of pace and Poulsen who is seriously rivalling Paul Stewart as the worst player we have ever signed.
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I've already commented on the Soto thing, but Poulsen is no where near what we need, no redeeming features that I can see. N'gog just isn't good enough and with Suarez and Carroll in the squad I can't see him pushing himself in front of them two and that's what we need, a third striker who is gonna give Kenny a head ache, "do I play x and y, or y and Z, or etc etc. ." Cole, I'm still not sure on. If he can regain some of his old fom then bonus, if not then we're faced with a problem, but he looked hungry enough for me tonight ( except the 50/ 50 with the goalie, but then again maybe he dosen't want to get injured again, not an excuse but a reason).


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I don't know i really don't. Are we playing blind faith at the moment and we are just not going to allow ourselves to see what we saw pre Dalglish?

Or will we be seen as really, really poor fans who moaned (unacceptably to some) about Hodgson and dare to moan about Dalglish?

Or shall we just accept that we have a really, really poor depth of quality in our squad and no matter who the hell is in charge, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?

So were we too harsh on Hodgson or are we too lenient with Dalglish? Because either way we are treating the two totally different.

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I wouldn't say we're treating the two differently cause look at the table. We're 6th, we were 12th. Look at the goal difference, look at the way we play, We look like we wanna put the ball in the other sides net and not just break with a long ball and maybe get lucky.

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Just playing devil's advocaat. I have absolutely no positives with Hodgson. He wasn't good enough BUt was he as bad as we made out? And should Dalglish be given the job full time for a number of years?

We should keep our focus because if the performances of the last three games continue we haven't made as much progress as we think, in fact we haven't made any. We talk of papering and cracks, is that we are doing with Dalglish?

Or is it purely the players who are just not good enough and with this acceptance time is the only ingredient we can give to rectify? Give Dalglish time to root the crap out and get some decent players in? If so, why couldn't we be polite enough to give Hodgson this criteria?
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Fair enough, I believe we need time, the squad is just too thin and we're holding on to to many average player but the difference, and this is a big one, is that even with the average players we're looking to play football. To attack, and not just absorb pressure and hit the other side on the break. We seem like we're trying to create stuff, it won't always work but at least we are going into matches believing we can take something from them, if not in the most cases win them, wheras with hodgson he was trying to learn us the beauty of medicore dreams. If as a club you don't aim high the lows don't spur you on more, becasue you learn to accept them.

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I harp back to Rafa. Yes he takes his fair share of the blame, yet he undertook a warts and all complete re vamp of the academy, which already has us excited, was this at the cost of the first team and did Rafa made this judgment call thinking he had the time to get everything right eventually?

Loads of questions and no answers. In fact more questions now. Perhaps i've had a bad day and seen too many morons doing moronic things? Too many beers tonight in anticipation of a greatc european night?

Yes i think i'm feeling a bit down in the dumps and slightly deflated. Some typical scouse humour is needed tonight. I await in desperation of reading some of your funny posts.

Bob the Red

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Well that my two cent but I'm deffo sensing a glass half empty there bob. Maybe I'm too glass half full but no matter what at least it'll be interesting to see what happens in the summer with FSG and KK in charge.

JJ

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:31:28
Can anyone name a worse liverpool forward in the last 20 years than ngog?cant believe jova didn't get a game ahead of him after his performance last week worse then this week poulsen was back 2 his terrible best i pray after every time i watch these 2 that they never play again but unfortunetly kenny sees something in them
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Kenny doesn't see something in Ngog & Poulsen! He has put out a team to win a match. He & the coaching staff have assessed Sparta & put 11 players on the pitch accordingly. He protected Gerrard & obviously Carroll was no where near ready. He played 4 players who wouldn't neccessarily be first choice picks ( Wilson, The Greek, Ngog & Poulson). He gave Joe Cole a much needed 90 minutes & Wilson got more first team exposure.We won the match. A match on another day
could & should have been 3 or 4-0! We are into the next round of the competition, something that Gerrard is happy about given the jumping up & down he was doing during the game. Kenny is doing his hardest to introduce younger players to the first team without them having the fear of failure on their backs. He's also getting the players to play with a smile & a bit of freedom, something that has been drained from them over the months. Whats not to be happy & optimistic about?

The Irish Rover
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Great post Irish Rover. We played ok imo, with a mix and match team through injurys and resting players.

We had 21 shots on goal and 9 on target. We should have won the game 3 or 4, and if we had there wouldn't be any negative posts on here.

In the last 8 games we've won 6 and drew 2, and only conceeded 1 goal and kept 7 clean sheets. Like Rover said "What's not to be optimistic about?"

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:10:37
Any 1 no how babel is gettin on

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:16:55
After watching tonights game is anyone of the same opinion that Ngog is simply not championship quality never mind prem league quality. We need another striker after AC & Suarez and of decent quality. All the top 4 teams have 3-4 top strikers or am I stating the obvious

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:17:28
Wilson, kelly and Shelvey look like they are getting ready to make the step up and be future first team players.

However it would be nice to see Pacheo make similiar progress.

It is great to see youth players coming through. Why spend good money on the Cahills and the Kjears or the Hondas if you have good enough quality coming thrugh the ranks.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:17:48
24 Feb 2011 22:33:12
Ed why don't we put all of our power to get bastos prob the best left winger out there pace power and can finish an cross perfect player if u ask me. . {ed's note - I have no idea, except that maybe he is not as good as you think?}

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I live in Lyon now and have seen Bastos play for OL at Stade Gerland. I could see his quality right away, but he's really more of a right winger rather than a left winger or a left back (he played out of position in the World Cup, but he did well) . .he plays on the right for OL. He'd be a good addition though - very bright and positive going forward.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:19:59
I think that we all have to realise that the stupid transfer rules are part of the problem (as well as being illegal, I am sure). Kenny Dalglish took over a squad and is stuck with it until the end of the season. He has signed two great prospects but one is injured and the other is ineligible tp play in the Europa League. According to European law he is being prevented from carrying out his right to work by not being allowed to play every match. Ican see no point to the rule as he cannot go back to his old club anywhere. Perhaps at the end of the eighteenth Century when 'cup-tied' was introduced there was a problem with players moving from club to club but that cannot happen now. If any company has workers who are under-achieving they are able to get rid of them immediately but we are stuck with the likes of Poulsen, N'gog, and a couple of others until the end of the season.It is about time that 'Freedom of Movement' was re-introduced into professional football.
Mal 22

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:06:04
To me kelly was best player on the pitch before he had to go off . wilson also played brilliantly at left back and to me if he continues to play like this we won't need a new left back! what are your thoughts ED ? {ed's note - we looked a much better side with Kelly, he provided an out ball every time and Carragher just did nothing for us as a full back.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:03:54
Is it me or does kenny say in every interview that 'he's lucky to hav been asked back'.
ha what a character
nice to see he isn't forgetting how much of a privelage it is.

jay b LFC

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:46:06
Hi Ed, do you know why we sold Mihaylov to FC Twente cause i think he can become great.
And what do you think off the performance from Wilson?
I think his defending was great but everytime he had the ball he tried to give long passes straight away

{Editor's Note: There were work permit issues and then he decided he wanted a regular game. Wilson did fine.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:52:56
Ed do you think wilson should be used more as a left back? he's not really attack minded which seems to be the minimum requirements of a full back nowadays, and even if he develops to be i think that would ruin him as the next carra or hansen as he is often labelled

{Editor's Note: He is young and can play well in both positions - but he remains primarily a centre back.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:56:53
24 Feb 2011 22:22:39
Can anyone name a worse liverpool forward in the last 20 years than ngog?cant believe jova didn't get a game ahead of him after his performance last week worse then this week poulsen was back 2 his terrible best i pray after every time i watch these 2 that they never play again but unfortunetly kenny sees something in them
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Kenny doesn't see something in Ngog & Poulsen! He has put out a team to win a match. He & the coaching staff have assessed Sparta & put 11 players on the pitch accordingly. He protected Gerrard & obviously Carroll was no where near ready. He played 4 players who wouldn't neccessarily be first choice picks ( Wilson, The Greek, Ngog & Poulson). He gave Joe Cole a much needed 90 minutes & Wilson got more first team exposure.We won the match. A match on another day
could & should have been 3 or 4-0! We are into the next round of the competition, something that Gerrard is happy about given the jumping up & down he was doing during the game. Kenny is doing his hardest to introduce younger players to the first team without them having the fear of failure on their backs. He's also getting the players to play with a smile & a bit of freedom, something that has been drained from them over the months. Whats not to be happy & optimistic about?

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 23:00:02
Look dross the fact you think lucas is great obviously sums you up, please define great and what part of the meaning of the word does lucas provide, yes we may have won and kept a clean sheet but if your happy with that type of performance then i guess you never saw us play in the 70's and 80's, now that was football not this crap they've played the last 3 games and i agree with alot of bobs post maybe the kk effect is waring off and we're now producing the same type of football that we did at the start of the season under roy, reason, to many s**t players end of.
paul
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It is clear to ANY fan that we are going through a rebuilding process, we have new owners, a new manager, two new players, and some that need to move on, tonight we had three of our best players injured, two injured during the game and one cup tied so to criticize the performance is wrong, can't people wait for 12 months, and give the rebuilding process a chance before slating the team and comparing us to the 70's and 80' teams, christ we've only bought two new players, and we lost one? How would ANY team perform if they lossed six of there best players? Be patient, i am sure there will be many other bad games a head but until we are once again 'great' let's just be grateful for the win!

MR EM

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:41:07
It's no point us all moaning at each other about individual players, two things are certain
1. We have to get behind whichever team KK puts out for the rest of the season
2. We desperately need new players in the summer, a left back, a quality midfielder, 2 quick pacey wingers and another striker are minimum requirements.
Maybe we can all at least agree on that

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:37:30
Ed, do you really think we need a new left back with Glen Johnson playing so well there and Kelly at right back?

Petric {ed's note - not if Wilson continues to provide excellent cover, no.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:27:26
Look dross the fact you think lucas is great obviously sums you up, please define great and what part of the meaning of the word does lucas provide, yes we may have won and kept a clean sheet but if your happy with that type of performance then i guess you never saw us play in the 70's and 80's, now that was football not this crap they've played the last 3 games and i agree with alot of bobs post maybe the kk effect is waring off and we're now producing the same type of football that we did at the start of the season under roy, reason, to many s**t players end of.
paul

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how boring. and 'end of' doesn't prove an argument in any sense. we have very different opinions but. .look back over the last few days on here and you will see plenty of arguments pro lucas. stats to back it up etc etc. i can't be bothered to go into it all again. i did not say i was happy with the performance. but made a point to the fans slating the team and kk earlier. no this is no football of the 70's and 80's. very few teams in the world will ever match that standard of football but we got the result and im not going to be a doom monger after a few below average performances. i would prefer us see out the season picking up as many points as possible and assess from there. supporting my team until the end

redross

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:22:39
Can anyone name a worse liverpool forward in the last 20 years than ngog?cant believe jova didn't get a game ahead of him after his performance last week worse then this week poulsen was back 2 his terrible best i pray after every time i watch these 2 that they never play again but unfortunetly kenny sees something in them

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:18:33
Ed. .what do u think of our new away shirt for next season (white with blue trims?? ?? ? ?) is it real or has someone made a fake pic.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:16:39
Redross
I am 34 years old red dross. .I have been all over europe and england spending thousands supporting LFC since the late 80's. I say it as i see it. .If players play badly a few times i support them if they play badly for a whole season i want them replaced. .if the team does badly i support them but i still look at reasons why? .I don't just think "oh well there is always next week. . If u are happy to watch average footballers, with no ability give no effort while taking thousands from our club then so be it. . .Just don't choke on your prawn sandwich. .

dave. .

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dont choke on your prawn sadwich?you are ridiculous. im not the fan that has to dress up my support by spouting what i spend to see them.i know how much i support and love my club and have nothing to prove to you at all.i never said 'oh there is always next week'. the original point i made was people jumping on all the players backs. and some even kk earlier because we were struggling tonight. fickle supporters who can't put up with one or two poor or mediocre performances without moaning and complaining. manure have had s***e performances all season. do you think their fans care when they get the result or win the league. no. good teams grind out results when playing poorly. it wasnt pretty but we did the job tonight ps if you are 34 resorting to childish name calling is not really a way to show it is it? grow up

redross

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:13:14
Taiwo is absolute kack, I cannot believe people are getting excited about him, I'm Nigerian myself and I am telling you if we sign him, a lot of people are going to be very unhappy with his purchase within 6 months. I shudder at the thought of Taiwo in a red shirt.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:05:18
Ed, which left back has the best chances to join Liverpool this summer? Over the last 6 months the following 22 left backs have been linked us:

Fabio Coentrao,
Michel Bastos,
Benoit Tremoulinas,
Aly Cissokho,
Taye Taiwo,
Phillip Lahm,
Marcell Jensen,
Reto Ziegler,
Davide Santon,
John Arne Riise,
Steven Warnock,
Wayne Bridge,
Leighton Baines,
Jose Enrique,
Kieran Gibbs,
Yuri Zhirkov,
Emilio Izaguirre,
Royston Drenthe,
Urbi Emmanuelson,
Cristian Ansaldi,
Oscar Wendt,
Behrang Safari

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:09:26
Players for sale:

Jovanovic

Poulsen

Soto (can do a job but with possibly a new CB comin in and wilson needing playing time hes surplus)

Ngog (Not up to standards, will be sold if replacement is found)

Players on loan not returning if buyer is found:

Konchesky (on loan no dent in the squad)
Aqualani (Again no dent due to loan)
Insua

Possible re-inforcements:

We should look for:

left back- Taiwo, Baines, Enrique

striker (back up)- Marveux, Eriksen, Lukaku

Left side forward- Honda, Young, Hazard, Turan

Defensive Midfielder- M, Villa, Diarra

Central Midfielder- Adam, Banega, ALONSO(more of a dream)

Central Defender- Keijer, Hangeland, Mexes

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:58:33
Just thought i post this because it is greatly annoying when people call Charlie Adam, 'Charlie Adams' its only small i know but i think these people should actually know about players before posting about them
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Sorry, but if an 's' at the end of somebody's name is ''greatly annoying to you'' then you really need to get out more! Who gives a shiny sh**e?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:59:17
Look dross the fact you think lucas is great obviously sums you up, please define great and what part of the meaning of the word does lucas provide, yes we may have won and kept a clean sheet but if your happy with that type of performance then i guess you never saw us play in the 70's and 80's, now that was football not this crap they've played the last 3 games and i agree with alot of bobs post maybe the kk effect is waring off and we're now producing the same type of football that we did at the start of the season under roy, reason, to many s**t players end of.
paul

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 22:01:29
Went this evening,

Cole's legs have gone.You watch him try to push off from standing start or when changing direction, there is no acceleration. Injuries have taken toll I'm afraid.

Poulson and Ngog struggled, and that is being polite.

Agger injury is worry and he is by far our best defender. A fantastic player!

Wilson looks a very good prospect, as is Kelly.

Cannot make mind up on Kuyt. . . Feel he slows play down, can't seem to hit a ball cleanly, couldn't cross the road let alone a ball, but he pops up. .

Really fancied seeing Pacheco, but Agger injury put pay to that.

Sparta were nothing special, but particularly enjoyed Repka telling Kop it wasn't a penalty. Think he got overexcited. . W***er indeed! !

Dirks Engine Room

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:46:06
Normally I support ngog but after today I would pay someone a couple mil to take him. His selfish act in the 90th after joe cole beat 2 guys and was about to shoot on his RIGHT foot ngog reached behind his body to take a swing with his LEFT foot, i would say weak left foot but after the right footed shot in the first half not sure which foot of his is worse.
Poulsen was crap, i would prefer to play with 10 then have him on
Ed do you know why Kelly left it really hurt us lost all of our width
our crossing was piss poor hit the first defender almost every single time.
Cannot wait for the weekend I think joe cole with todays performance deserves to start on a wing or up front with suarez.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:46:58
Was just wondering which of the following r the most realistic targets 4 liverpool and who, in your opinion we r mostly likely 2 look at; (i no its early but just even a guess would b appreciated :) )
elia
mata
turan
cheerz and keep up the gd work :)

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:50:46
Cole agreed, Meireles agreed, I was impressed with Wilson seems to have an eye for the pass. Lucas fell back into old habits and as far forward as he has come he has a natural tendancy to dwell on the ball. Ngog absolute rubbish. The lad would fnd it hard to get in our sunday league side. He can't hold the ball, no pace, can't dribble, no strength, no vision and can't shoot. David Pleat was itching to say what a load of rubbish he is tonight, it was on the tip of his tongue.

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forgot about wilson in my mentions. good shout. my point about lucas was that he has been very good over the last 18months. but whenever we have a poor game the lad becomes the scapegoat. he wasnt great tonight but that makes him useless all together is some 'fans' opinions. as for ngog i don't really know. he was poor tonight but he is a young lad playing upfront alone against a tough defence (and i mean tough as in repka tough). i thought he did decent enough holding up play at times. drew quite a few fouls in decent areas. but overall i agree he wasnt great. a shame really cos he started the season really well. was scoring for fun in europe and scored that screamer against arsenal. appreciate your opinion anyway. you can express yours without being childish and calling names unlike some

redross

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:53:38
LIVERPOOL SUMMER TARGETS

JOSE ENRIQUE. .lwb
SIMON KJAER. .cd
CHARLIE ADAM. .cm
YANN MVILA. .dcm
BALADS DZSUDSAK. .aml/ fc
IBRAHIM AFELLEY. amr/ fc
ASHLEY YOUNG. aml/ r/ fc
ROMELU LAKAKU. . sc

A LOT OF PLAYERS LEAVING IN THE SUMMER.
THOSE ON LOAN (except ecellston) WILL BE SOLD
MAXI, POULSEN, NGOG, COLE, ARE ALL OUT

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:57:16
Your the type of Sad T***. . sit on the fence. .I have no opinion. . get behind the team loser fan that has ruined our club. . It's people like u without an ounce of passion that should go and support the likes of wigan. .

We love our club. want what is best for our club and will do it with passion. .

Dave. .

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if you bother to read through the page you will see i have given plenty of opinions. .also name calling great. .how old are you?10? a 'get behind the team fan that has ruined our club'. .what a ridiculous comment, makes no sense. i will support my club through good and bad times. and won't be jumping on everyones back after a game that we havent played great in. a fan SUPPORTS a club. do you understand the term support. .not critisize at any given oppertunity. bet you were one of the ones a few weeks ago when we beat chelsea singing everyones praises. how fickle

redross
I am 34 years old red dross. .I have been all over europe and england spending thousands supporting LFC since the late 80's. I say it as i see it. .If players play badly a few times i support them if they play badly for a whole season i want them replaced. .if the team does badly i support them but i still look at reasons why? .I don't just think "oh well there is always next week. . If u are happy to watch average footballers, with no ability give no effort while taking thousands from our club then so be it. . .Just don't choke on your prawn sandwich. .

dave. .

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:43:13
Just thought i post this because it is greatly annoying when people call Charlie Adam, 'Charlie Adams' its only small i know but i think these people should actually know about players before posting about them

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:43:41
WELL DONE ON THE WIN LADS. .BLOODED SOME FRINGE PLAYERS. .WILSON WAS SOLID. KELLY WAS VERY GOOD AND JOE COLE GOT A GAME UNDER HIS BELT. .ALL POSITIVES. .THE NEGATIVES. .POULSEN AND NGOG. .THESE GUYS ARE LIKE PLAYING WITH A MAN DOWN. OR IN OUR CASE TWO MEN DOWN. .SO WE WON PLAYING WITH NINE MEN. AND TWO CONES. LAST SIXTEEN. LOOKING LIKE BRAGA NEXT ON THE ROAD TO DUBLIN. . COME ON YOU REDS

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:30:43
You have obviously never played competetive 11 side in your life. You can do all the hours of work you want in the gym but after injuries you will not be anywhere near fit untill you get at least 3, 90 minute games under your belt and on the bounce. Match fitness is everything, he is probably only at 70% match fit atm. Hence his lack of sharpness and its that extra 30% which makes all the difference when both in and out of possession. If he is injury free and gets a few games in a row, then you can judge him. Joe Cole is no Ryan Babel I am confident he will produce the goods, he just needs games.

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I disagree, I think he has a stamina problem. He struggles with short repetetive bursts. He was a fringe player at Chelsea and its becoming clear why.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:26:35
Paul well done on the 'red dross' pun. genius that lad. hope it didn't take you too long to come up with. anyway the positives im taking is unbeaten in 8 games with only 2 conceeded. another clean sheet tonight. .joe cole getting 90mins under his belt and probably would of had a goal to his name if ngog didn't take it off his toe. a fantastic energetic performance from kelly in the first half, meireles being just about everywhere on the park tonight, kk's first win in europe as manager. .to name a few. also all this without captain fantastic and 57mil worth of strikers also
i see you are one of the 'lucas isn't good enough' brigade. how boring. is there much space left on that bandwagon?many many fans who watch a lot of the games. especially live will tell you lucas has been great the last 18months.

redross (or dross. .classic *sigh*)

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Cole agreed, Meireles agreed, I was impressed with Wilson seems to have an eye for the pass. Lucas fell back into old habits and as far forward as he has come he has a natural tendancy to dwell on the ball. Ngog absolute rubbish. The lad would fnd it hard to get in our sunday league side. He can't hold the ball, no pace, can't dribble, no strength, no vision and can't shoot. David Pleat was itching to say what a load of rubbish he is tonight, it was on the tip of his tongue.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:21:16
24 Feb 2011 21:12:26
Redross you should rename your self red dross, apart from scraping a 1-0 win against a poor team exactly what positives can we take out of tonights performance, oh and buy the way lucas, poulsen and ngog were all s**t tonight and all 3 aren't good enough for our club, so there you go i haven't singled out 1 player i've give you 3.
paul

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paul well done on the 'red dross' pun. genius that lad. hope it didn't take you too long to come up with. anyway the positives im taking is unbeaten in 8 games with only 2 conceeded. another clean sheet tonight. .joe cole getting 90mins under his belt and probably would of had a goal to his name if ngog didn't take it off his toe. a fantastic energetic performance from kelly in the first half, meireles being just about everywhere on the park tonight, kk's first win in europe as manager. .to name a few. also all this without captain fantastic and 57mil worth of strikers also
i see you are one of the 'lucas isn't good enough' brigade. how boring. is there much space left on that bandwagon?many many fans who watch a lot of the games. especially live will tell you lucas has been great the last 18months.

redross (or dross. .classic *sigh*)

@redross
you just can't win man. some of these pessimists would do your head in
LfordRed

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:16:35
Hey im pretty new 2 this site but im already addicted :) was just wondering, eds or anyone else, which of the following do u feel we hav the most realistic chance of getting and why?
Elia
Turan
Mata
thx and keep up the gd work

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:19:23
Your the type of Sad T***. . sit on the fence. .I have no opinion. . get behind the team loser fan that has ruined our club. . It's people like u without an ounce of passion that should go and support the likes of wigan. .

We love our club. want what is best for our club and will do it with passion. .

Dave. .

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if you bother to read through the page you will see i have given plenty of opinions. .also name calling great. .how old are you?10? a 'get behind the team fan that has ruined our club'. .what a ridiculous comment, makes no sense. i will support my club through good and bad times. and won't be jumping on everyones back after a game that we havent played great in. a fan SUPPORTS a club. do you understand the term support. .not critisize at any given oppertunity. bet you were one of the ones a few weeks ago when we beat chelsea singing everyones praises. how fickle

redross

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:20:16
Why does joe cole always look like he has run a marathon arms on his hips puffing away. he has had month upon month to get fit no excuse lad
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you have obviously never played competetive 11 side in your life. You can do all the hours of work you want in the gym but after injuries you will not be anywhere near fit untill you get at least 3, 90 minute games under your belt and on the bounce. Match fitness is everything, he is probably only at 70% match fit atm. Hence his lack of sharpness and its that extra 30% which makes all the difference when both in and out of possession. If he is injury free and gets a few games in a row, then you can judge him. Joe Cole is no Ryan Babel I am confident he will produce the goods, he just needs games.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:12:26
Redross you should rename your self red dross, apart from scraping a 1-0 win against a poor team exactly what positives can we take out of tonights performance, oh and buy the way lucas, poulsen and ngog were all s**t tonight and all 3 aren't good enough for our club, so there you go i haven't singled out 1 player i've give you 3.
paul

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paul well done on the 'red dross' pun. genius that lad. hope it didn't take you too long to come up with. anyway the positives im taking is unbeaten in 8 games with only 2 conceeded. another clean sheet tonight. .joe cole getting 90mins under his belt and probably would of had a goal to his name if ngog didn't take it off his toe. a fantastic energetic performance from kelly in the first half, meireles being just about everywhere on the park tonight, kk's first win in europe as manager. .to name a few. also all this without captain fantastic and 57mil worth of strikers also
i see you are one of the 'lucas isn't good enough' brigade. how boring. is there much space left on that bandwagon?many many fans who watch a lot of the games. especially live will tell you lucas has been great the last 18months.

redross (or dross. .classic *sigh*)

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 21:13:08
If you want to cheer up look at the pics on the LFC site of the tennis player Caroline Wozniaki winning a quarter final match in a Stevie G shirt. That's our appeal all over the world. She should be guest of honour at one of our matches next time she is available.

Kev in the South

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:55:25
Ed do you think there's any chance we would make a cheeky bid for Baines? Possibly best left in perm at the min for me.
I heard he was a Liverpool fan too can you confirm this and if you know how long does Baines have on his contract?

{Editor's Note: No, yes, 4 and a half years.)

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:57:35
Silence is golden
JAY
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Duct Tape is silver. . .

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:57:52
Ed is it true that Carrol could possibly be on bench at weekend?

{Editor's Note: Doubtful.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:58:43
Yes i think i'm feeling a bit down in the dumps and slightly deflated. Some typical scouse humour is needed tonight. I await in desperation of reading some of your funny posts.

Bob the Red

Bob, stick on Shankly youtube vid, visit THE KOP via the LFC website and checkout 'My Favorite Video' - Works for me everytime. .Speaks YNWA

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:50:11
Why are we not trying Pacheco I don't understand how we give game after game to Ngog, he doesn't seem to develop or progress as a striker.
Pacheco should be getting blooded in these kind of games to see if he can handle it and build some confidence.


{Editor's Note: Refer to the earlier discussion.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:52:01
Dirk Kuyt he is slo, frustrating, painful to watch most of the time and can't cross BUT remember HE ALWAYS COMES GOOD in the end -Mc

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:44:42
Ed do you think we would ever show any interest in Javier Pastore of Palermo? Or can you tell me if he is valued at a reasonable fee or silly?

{Editor's Note: Liverpool have no interest in the player - he is valued at something over £30M.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:49:36
Ed do you have any idea if people like ngog, chrisian poulson will sold becuase there performance tonight done it for me ngog can kick a ball can hold it up and when joe cole gets a clear chance he kicks at the keeper and poulson just gives the oppisite team the ball constantly i think m villa and not sure his name from the french team to replace them and tonight unfortuatly lucas was unimpressive. and SORRY to go on but any idea the extent of kellys and aggers injuries?
thanks mate


{Editor's Note: There will be changes in the summer. M'Vila seems a viable option. I have no idea about the injuries - no doubt the club will report on them in the next day or so.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:39:40
I think watching that tonight was uncomfortably poor for most of us.

During the week which signalled twenty years where Dalglish resigned, there appears to be no difference between a Dalglish led Liverpool and a Hodgson led Liverpool, if we are very brutally honest. This performance was no better than Utrecht away, home etc. That is of course not counting the fans reaction.

There has been a slightly alarming decline in the standard of our last three performances which have greatly mirrored those of Hodgson's reign. Yet where there were howls of derision with Roy, the fans were actively singing for Dalglish.

People don't put enough emphasis on the word 'respect'. But is it there more to it than that?

Are we deluding ourselves tonight because the boss is Dalglish? I mean had Hodgson been manager, we would all be cringing into our beers at the thought of the post match press conference.

But no doubt not many would be worrying with Dalglish in charge. Tonight shows just how far H&G ruined us on the pitch as well as off it. Let us not be mis-led into thinking we can sneak into Champions League.

There were many performances tonight that clearly show players are either past it or just not upto it, so many in fact that it is truly, truly alarming.

Our lack of quality in depth is there for all to see. You could see it after just 3 mins and 35 secs. This was all it took for Poulsen and Kygiakos to make the first of many unforced schoolboy errors.

Add in Cole (who by the way obviously ran over 13 black cats because how unlucky is he to have a tap in taken off his toe by possibly the third worst player on the park?) who looks a pale shadow of the player he was 5 years ago, Ngog who has not not progressed at all and appears to have gone backwards this season, Kygiakos who is just so worrying as a defender and not just because of his lack of pace and Poulsen who is seriously rivalling Paul Stewart as the worst player we have ever signed.

I don't know i really don't. Are we playing blind faith at the moment and we are just not going to allow ourselves to see what we saw pre Dalglish?

Or will we be seen as really, really poor fans who moaned (unacceptably to some) about Hodgson and dare to moan about Dalglish?

Or shall we just accept that we have a really, really poor depth of quality in our squad and no matter who the hell is in charge, you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?

So were we too harsh on Hodgson or are we too lenient with Dalglish? Because either way we are treating the two totally different.

Just playing devil's advocaat. I have absolutely no positives with Hodgson. He wasn't good enough BUt was he as bad as we made out? And should Dalglish be given the job full time for a number of years?

We should keep our focus because if the performances of the last three games continue we haven't made as much progress as we think, in fact we haven't made any. We talk of papering and cracks, is that we are doing with Dalglish?

Or is it purely the players who are just not good enough and with this acceptance time is the only ingredient we can give to rectify? Give Dalglish time to root the crap out and get some decent players in? If so, why couldn't we be polite enough to give Hodgson this criteria?

I harp back to Rafa. Yes he takes his fair share of the blame, yet he undertook a warts and all complete re vamp of the academy, which already has us excited, was this at the cost of the first team and did Rafa made this judgment call thinking he had the time to get everything right eventually?

Loads of questions and no answers. In fact more questions now. Perhaps i've had a bad day and seen too many morons doing moronic things? Too many beers tonight in anticipation of a greatc european night?

Yes i think i'm feeling a bit down in the dumps and slightly deflated. Some typical scouse humour is needed tonight. I await in desperation of reading some of your funny posts.

Bob the Red

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:42:03
I do think KK is fully aware of the lack of creativity and width in our side. But I pray to god he gets rid of tha absolute DROSS currently in our squad. . No loan deals sold and off our books. . Kuyt and lucas work hard but still lack creativity in the final third. You can carry them only if u have clever, creative players alongside them.

ED i have a question. .

How many of our starting XI tonight would you keep at the club nxt season? {ed's note - Reina and Kelly for starters. Lucas, Kuyt, Meireles, Agger and Wilson would all stay for me too.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:30:24
Alright lads,
Come on now- lets be honest- yes Kuyt had a pretty good second half, and yes his commitment is second to none, and yes he seems a great lad but come on. .
That was a very poor team we played there and all too often dirk had great chances to put in decent deliveries and create chances but either didn't beat the first man, played a ball behind someone or played a deep loopy cross in aimlessly.
Poulsen should never start again- gives away possession so much and then fouls like mad- spearings better.
Lucas today didn't prove his haters wrong- didn't do much except niggly fouls.
Ngog proved us all right-terrible- I mean this guy plays football everyday yet still manages to scuff everything.
Raul looked good, creative and won lots of free kicks.
Soto gave his all
Agger good game
Wilson did well considering out of position
Joe cole difficult one as he tries so hard and could have had a goal ther if ngog wasnt a D***

Sorry for the rant- please comment with ur views people

Irish Jason

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:31:10
The only problem with your opinion is, we have now gone 8 games? Undefeated! Conceded 2 goals & yet you still find room to complain. I suggest you cast your mind back 3 months. Then you could have moaned till your heart was content & I would have joined you.

The Irish Rover

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couldn't agree more rover. the point i was making exactly. well said

redross

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:33:54
Redross you should rename your self red dross, apart from scraping a 1-0 win against a poor team exactly what positives can we take out of tonights performance, oh and buy the way lucas, poulsen and ngog were all s**t tonight and all 3 aren't good enough for our club, so there you go i haven't singled out 1 player i've give you 3.
paul

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:38:24
The result is what counted an we're thru, cole got 90 mins in an maybe he'll get back to his best, poulson was absolutely garbage, ngog was s**te but had some good turns an little runs but lacked the end product, i take my hat off to soto he was in the wars for us tonite, raul tryed to make things happen but it jus didn't come off as we wud of liked, but next round here we come, with a fit carroll an gerrard watch out europe !

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:39:02
Can u honestly say u are enjoying this performance? ?, we do support the team but we have opinions aswell. . . saddo! ;-)
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the only problem with your opinion is, we have now gone 8 games? Undefeated! Conceded 2 goals & yet you still find room to complain. I suggest you cast your mind back 3 months. Then you could have moaned till your heart was content & I would have joined you.

The Irish Rover
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Completely agree. Can't moan about 'another' clean sheet can we, surely!? Thank you Dirk and Meireles, great ball, brilliant header - There you go youngsters, ie Pacheco, hard work pays off! Buuuut. . .Can't agree with the performance of our two centre mids - inexcusable. Positives along with Dirk and Raul were M Kelly, M Kelly and finally M Kelly! What a player we have here! Either Carra's replacement or wherever he feels like, he's that good. Loved Stevie G's celebration! Speaks YNWA

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:39:05
Oh ffs. .i see the moaners and whingers are out again tonight. get behind the team or go support someone else. .some of you ''fans'' are a joke. .term 'only sing when you're winning' comes to mind. .urrgghhh *sigh*

Your the type of Sad T***. . sit on the fence. .I have no opinion. . get behind the team loser fan that has ruined our club. . It's people like u without an ounce of passion that should go and support the likes of wigan. .

We love our club. want what is best for our club and will do it with passion. .

Dave. .

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:24:16
If sparta had just a touch of quality about them they would have beaten us easily. We were awful, but thankfully they were worse. Ngog, poulsen, kuyt even though he scored and cole just don't look up to it. Id put them all on the transfer list except for kuyt, who is 1000% lfc. On a positive note, kelly is going to be an awsome player. He already is imo. My ratings for tonight(10):
pepe-6
agger-6
sotis-5
kelly-7
wilson-6
lucas-5.5
poulsen-pure crap
kuyt-6
cole-5
raul-5
ngog-3
Red bl00ded!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:24:43
Dirk the great or joe 'old king' cole?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:23:08
Oh ffs. .i see the moaners and whingers are out again tonight. get behind the team or go support someone else. .some of you ''fans'' are a joke. .term 'only sing when you're winning' comes to mind. .urrgghhh *sigh*

redross
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Can u honestly say u are enjoying this performance? ?, we do support the team but we have opinions aswell. . . saddo! ;-)
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the only problem with your opinion is, we have now gone 8 games? Undefeated! Conceded 2 goals & yet you still find room to complain. I suggest you cast your mind back 3 months. Then you could have moaned till your heart was content & I would have joined you.

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:21:58
I think we've got a major rebuilding job to do in the summer; I think we need 4 players that are classed as first 11 and play when they are fit.

Obviously a left back; a DM, and two wide players.

I was impressed with Kelly tonight (shame he had to go off) and he can't have done any harm infront of the watching Capello.

I thought Danny Wilson played well considering he's not a natural left back.

A better performance than last week but it was a very open game; definately not the form to take us into the top four this season though IMO.

Spearing was so much better than Poulsen; so hopefully we can get some money for Poulsen and keep Spearing.

Hoola

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:19:30
Ed, like others are suggesting, would it be possible to sort out this button issue. If a post is made and you the ed do not add anything to it, it is a simple process as you either click agree or disagree. The way i see it is there a 8 options to a post.

If a post is made without comment from the Ed then:

1)Agree or 2)Disagree

If the Ed makes a comment on a post then:

3) Agree with poster & Ed

4) Agree with just the Ed

5) Agree with just the Poster

6) Disagree with the poster & Ed

7) Disagree with just the ed

8) Disagree with just the poster

Is there any way to simplify the process and make it less confusing as to who is backing and agreeing/ disagreeing with who?.

Thanks

The Crow.

{Editor's Note: I am struggling to see why it matters at all - nobody is collecting the data. Just see it as a guide.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:15:43
With Torres and Aquilani gone, Aurelio's going to need some company in the treatment room.

he's always got agger to talk to!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:16:18
Hope the Dirk bashers are happy. And Sotos would go through walls for us. Was v hard going but we got there. And the paint dried in the end. :-)

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:09:20
Kuyt played out his skin again well played i hate these haters who hate a player who plays out of his skin every time he puts on that red shirt is unbelivable so hes not the most technical but he carra and stevie always put in a full graft and always shows the passion if they get callee d the scouser mafia so b it it just shows how much this club means to thm well done dirk and i hope you get the contract he deserve
jayblair89

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:07:29
I do think KK is fully aware of the lack of creativity and width in our side. But I pray to god he gets rid of tha absolute DROSS currently in our squad. . No loan deals sold and off our books. . Kuyt and lucas work hard but still lack creativity in the final third. You can carry them only if u have clever, creative players alongside them.

ED i have a question. .

How many of our starting XI tonight would you keep at the club nxt season?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:59:52
Great to see how stevie G and king kenny celebrated the goal tonight. .both are true fans and lfc legends . .

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:01:31
Silence is golden
JAY

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:03:35
Such a poor performance.

there is so much deadwood in our squad it is unbelievable.

Of the players that played tonight only meireles, reina, agger, kelly and maybe cole deserve to be first team players.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 20:06:18
Oh ffs. .i see the moaners and whingers are out again tonight. get behind the team or go support someone else. .some of you ''fans'' are a joke. .term 'only sing when you're winning' comes to mind. .urrgghhh *sigh*

redross
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Can u honestly say u are enjoying this performance? ?, we do support the team but we have opinions aswell. . . saddo! ;-)

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the performance was not great no. but can't stand the fans who come out slating individual players when we are having a tough game. everyone is entitled to an opinion but we are not gonna win every game 3 or 4 nil. we showed grit and determination tonight against a team who were happy to stop every attack with a foul. the game was very stopstart with freekicks. but we got the result. even had fans on here comparing kk to old roy earlier. its a joke. why don't people look at the positives instead of pointing out every flaw. it gets very tedious and boring. some fans need to grow up and get behind the team

redross

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:52:19
So who is going to score for us tonight, the lack of depth is painfully obvious, ngog is just awful he so bad, knowing torres was going we needed 2 replacement strikers, we get one cup tied and one injured, get ngog off now useless



you total numpty. . we didn't spend 58m to win this cup. .we did get 2 strikers and they are both top notch

you're not right bright kid are you? ? ?

so saurez gets injured in training and carrol's not fit you're confident ngog can lead the line and we will challenge for 4th spot? ?? ?? ? ?

the owners spent nothing they actually made money the last window, they should of bought 3 strikers that's all im saying im over the moon with saurez and carrol but 2 strikers are not enough, and we do want to win this cup and we want champions league, not gonna happen with ngog leading the line

NUMPTY

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:53:52
Personally am not Ngog's biggest fan but when he plays il cheer him on.

id cheer my mam if she was in the starting 11, don't mean she deserves to be there or shes playing well either

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:54:58
{ed's note - oh yes, I so wish Kuyt was gone right now *rolls eyes*}

Well he scored. {ed's note - which was my point, I was being ironic, obviously.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:49:07
Oh my god f*** Off Ngog! ! ! ! ! !

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:48:47
I personally am not Ngog's biggest fan but when he plays il cheer him on.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:46:56
I agree with people who don't like ngog. .
but my reasons are different

i think a young guy like him. playing for LIVERPOOL FC. on the biggest clubs in world football.

and he is sooooooo lAZYYY UPFRONT. . just watch his games. and ul see

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:44:07
Silence is golden

Lee73

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:43:27
Oh just another one of liverpools crap players scoring eh haters!

Well done Kuyt you deserve it

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:41:30
The deadwood list, w**k rated 1-10

1. Poulson (gone blind w**king)
2. Ngog (10 w**ks)
3. Kuyt (10 w**ks)
4. Jancovic (10 w**ks)
5. The Greek (5 w**ks)
6. Cole (5 w**ks)
7. Maxi (3 w**ks)
8. Skirtle (2 w**ks)
9. Lucas (too many w**ks)
10.Spearing (1 w**k)
11.Aquaman (1 w**k) {ed's note - oh yes, I so wish Kuyt was gone right now *rolls eyes*}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:38:07
Mmmmmmmm extra time just what we need

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:38:37
So who is going to score for us tonight, the lack of depth is painfully obvious, ngog is just awful he so bad, knowing torres was going we needed 2 replacement strikers, we get one cup tied and one injured, get ngog off now useless



you total numpty. . we didn't spend 58m to win this cup. .we did get 2 strikers and they are both top notch. .

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:39:25
Ou nob ed it's in reference to those flagging off decent players and kk. Cheer whoevers playing be it ngog or any other player

Dick

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:36:56
The fans can lift the team or bring it down, too many choose the latter.

oh im sorry " oh ngog you've been great keep up the good work, you should be the first name on the team sheet every game

nob ed

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:31:22
Why does joe cole always look like he has run a marathon arms on his hips puffing away. he has had month upon month to get fit no excuse lad

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:31:55
Why is ngog still on hes having a painfully obvious terrible game surly kenny can see this, everything breaks down as soon as it reaches his feet, get him off

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:32:05
Based on the game tonight it is plain to see that we still need another striker. Ngog is definitely not up to scratch.

Gomis
Benzema
Lavezzi
Huntelaar

Could all be better options, with Benzema my preferred choice.

YNWA

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:26:12
Agreed Lee.

The fans can lift the team or bring it down, too many choose the latter.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:24:15
FFS take ngog off and just give pacheco a run out hes a fuc ng nightmare

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:22:54
To all the Lucas haters, his stats are up there with the best in the perm this year! It is ridiculous to suggest that he is only doing well because the team is playing badly, if anything that is likely to make his stats worse. Get off his back, he plays outside of his favoured position to put the team first. Numpties

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:23:27
Kenny Dalglish has sung the praises of Joe Cole. Cole is in line to make his first start under Dalglish in tonight's Europa League game with Sparta Prague and he will do so full of confidence after receiving the full backing of his manager. "Joe certainly looks really sharp in training, " said the King. "He's done nothing but good over the last couple of weeks when he's been fit enough to train and he did well enough against Sparta last week. "Joe has the ability to open up a can of beans. He's a talented footballer and we will try our best to get that out of him. "He's positive, he's lively and he's bubbly. Steve Clarke coming in will have helped him as well because he has worked with him before. We have no problems with Joe."

I don't rate Joe but if KK really feels this way then this would be great. If we could get a good year or two out of Joe that would give us time to blood Sterling.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:21:26
I don't care what any lfc fans can say about this. .

but i tell u now. .kenny clearly doesn't wanna win this cup.

purely cos of the team he puts out. . i bet no attacking players come on. .

remember the name. .

realist red!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:20:16
So who is going to score for us tonight, the lack of depth is painfully obvious, ngog is just awful he so bad, knowing torres was going we needed 2 replacement strikers, we get one cup tied and one injured, get ngog off now useless

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:20:39
Cannot believe there is so much negativity on here tonight!
Call yourselves fans? Tut tut tut

Lee73

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:20:43
Like watching paint dry, whilst having a wisdom tooth extracted at the dentists
KB.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:20:45
24 Feb 2011 19:17:24
Oh ffs. .i see the moaners and whingers are out again tonight. get behind the team or go support someone else. .some of you ''fans'' are a joke. .term 'only sing when you're winning' comes to mind. .urrgghhh *sigh*

redross
*************
Can u honestly say u are enjoying this performance? ?, we do support the team but we have opinions aswell. . . saddo! ;-)

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:18:31
Lucas is a class player who is maturing all the time. Played in a position that's not his favourite. Kuyt can lead the line well enough I never understand why we play him on the right.

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Shame he dwells on the ball and has no positional sense, improved player yes, class i beg to differ!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:19:21
Ed, do you rate pacheco, do you think he has a good futute at LFC? {ed's note - he has ability, but if you aren't prepared to try and work hard in training then you don't deserve a future at the club.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:19:34
Lucas is a great player to say he isn't is crazy his stats are up there with the best midfielders in the premier league. To discredit him based on the fact that team haven't played well doesn't work mate

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:17:57
Come on Kenny change something. . Kuyt up top, Poulsen and Ngog off, PACHECO and Jovanovic on!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:15:26
Sarta Prague to nick this! !we are awfull!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:17:14
Ed, forgive me because i am abit slow on it! Do you mean that pacheco isn't working hard enough, trying his best? {ed's note - yes, he is just going through the motions a bit.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:17:24
Oh ffs. .i see the moaners and whingers are out again tonight. get behind the team or go support someone else. .some of you ''fans'' are a joke. .term 'only sing when you're winning' comes to mind. .urrgghhh *sigh*

redross

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:13:28
ha poor nick the green getting a beatin today! lol

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:09:48
Lucas is a class player who is maturing all the time. Played in a position that's not his favourite. Kuyt can lead the line well enough I never understand why we play him on the right.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:11:08
Northampton written all over this you watch

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:11:19
{ed's note - he is not applying himself properly in training)

Ed, what do you mean by the pacheo comment? {ed's note - I mean what I said, he is not applying himself properly in training, it is fairly self-explanatory surely?}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:03:57
ha isn't it the most amazing feeling ever when your best player goes off at half time

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:04:55
Just been reading a few of the earlier posts and i have to agree with a couple of blokes earlier, lucas is simply not good enough, now i know alot of the lucas lovers will say 'look at his stats this season' and 'he's been our best player for the last 18 months', well these facts may be correct but surely this just highlights how poor we've been for the last couple of years, watching tonight doesn't excite me for next season but actually worries me, if we want to be contenders next season we need atleast 6 or 7 new players not just for the first X1 but to give us a stronger lookin bench, the only players i'd keep are reina, kelly, agger, meirles, gerrard, carroll and suarez, the rest just simply aren't good enough.
paul

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:05:49
The best player I have seen in a Liverpool shirt today is Caroline Wozniacki - she had two excellent forwards! She was really proud to wear the shirt - more so than some of the team tonight. Win or lose tonight I really do think that it is time for some of the younger players to see more action. Once again N'gog is proving that he doesn't have what it takes.
(We've just brought on a player who has scored more goals against than for Liverpool!)
Mal 23

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:06:53
Ed, why is KK NOT PLAYING PACHEO. the boy has bever been given a chance and has real talent and im sick of hearing trust KK. God made mistakes and KK is making a big one becuz the boy is going to leave! {ed's note - he is not applying himself properly in training.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:00:06
Am really struggling to understand why Pacheco cannot get any game time in a match like this unless Liverpool do not think he can cut it?

Hodgson stuck with Ngog kuyt or Torres and refused to play Pacheco so it makes me wonder is there something we don't know?

I personally rate Pacheco hes got bags of skill and Ngogs not in his class, with Carrol and Suarez the new front two and another striker coming in the summer me thinks maybe Pacheco will be the fall guy and head off back to Spain. Shame?

RedAk1

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:01:53
Ngog, Kuyt and Poulsen are playing awful. All threee need to go to another club. Problem is the subs bench is pretty uninspiring too (except for possibly Pacheco).

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:02:00
The quality in our squad is simply minimal and clear for all to see. As everyone knows we need strength in depth. We lose Stevie G & JC and were f**ked. All these people slagging off fellow fans for daring to say players like n'gog, poulsen, lucas etc are not good enough are all living in denial. I would keep Lucas as a squad player based on improvements this season, the rest i would get rid. It's unfortunate that we can't call on our new signings as i feel that would make the difference in the score line. We need to get rid of the cack and get several quality players in but we have all known that for the last 2 years.

The Crow

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 19:03:00
Sorry ed i missed the start, did KK follow hodgsons suit and name reina as captain for the first half? {ed's note - according to goal.com Roy is still picking the team! Yes Pepe was captain.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:59:31
Better game tonight, I agree Poulsen is a worry & Aggar may have to be subbed due to strain.
Ngog again not delivering . on a plus Joe Cole looking better, Kelly, Lucas, Kuyt & Raul M playing very well.
We're a bit iffy at the back but defo gonna be goals second half maybe Pacheco coming on

MickyLagos YNWA

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:59:49
It wouldn't surprise me to see another centre half on & go with 3 at the back & 2 wing backs. Not defending too well from set pieces.
The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:58:54
Really think we should consider buying Aguero if only as a back up striker for when Ngog isn't playing well.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:56:21
I bet Xavi couldn't give the ball away as good as Poulsen, and Villa couldn't miss as well as N'gog.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:52:02
If i was kenny i would sub poulsen at half time, otherwise he will get bood if he comes off during game, i would put pacheco on and move cole up front, he looks good when hes had the ball,

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:51:22
Im gals channel 5 showed Kenny on the bench. . i was starting to think Roy had returned with this performance and team selection.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:47:25
What a shocker again. s**te team selection. Currently being outplayed and outclassed again at home.

Also their supporters are making a lot more noise than ours.

Where the f-** are our offensive players - we just don't have any. Going out of the comp tonight by the looks of it.

KBL {ed's note - you must be watching a different game from me. . .}
I don't think so ED, have you seen how many times Poulsen is giving away the ball, Lucas has absolutely no pace, Cole isn't fit and even the commentator has just mentioned how quiet the LFC fans are.

Let's just wait until the end and see.

KBL {ed's note - hardly outclassed, if Ngog was a decent striker he would have two goals tonight.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:48:11
ED, Massive clear out still required, don't care if we win 4-0 tonight! What happened to the pass and move, is it that the current players aren't capable or KK wants to be more conservitive? {ed's note - or that we are playing a bunch of back ups that have not gelled.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:45:59
I've heard a rumour that N'gog, Poulsen and Cole are s**te. . .surely not? ?!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:45:32
Poulson would struggle to get in our Sunday league pub team he's on par with Torben Picknik yowsless

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:45:15
Wilson looks good, loses the ball but fights to get it back. Ngog no comment! !

Lee73

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:42:34
We need to get poulsen off asap, as for lucas he's no better, ngog s**t.
paul

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:40:04
Reckon we should give poulson 6 month maternity leave with pay just as long as he doesn't step on a pitch again in a liverpool absaloute disgrace to football juventus must be absaloutly jokin if they reckon aquaman worth excatly the same as poulson

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:37:17
N'grog = pants, Kelly = the man.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:36:20
Wow. .we need a striker even if our 2 new ones are fit. .

and we BADLY NEED PACEY WINGERS TO OPEN UP THE GAME. . cos our team looks pants without pace

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:35:22
I would normally never question any of king Kenneths decisions but on this occasion I feel I have to, "WHAT THE f*** IS POULSON DOING TO WARRENT A PLACE IN THE STARTING ELEVEN"

RedAk1

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:34:36
We haven't got anyone on the pitch who is capable of scoring goals - certainly not N'gog. It would be nice to see one of Kuyt's moves coming off - at the moment he is having no luck
Mal 22

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:24:49
This evening match v Sparta. .

Ngog is showing already thet he is to weak and to slow.
Poulsen back to normal . . shait.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:24:50
What a shocker again. s**te team selection. Currently being outplayed and outclassed again at home.

Also their supporters are making a lot more noise than ours.

Where the f-** are our offensive players - we just don't have any. Going out of the comp tonight by the looks of it.

KBL {ed's note - you must be watching a different game from me.....}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 18:07:59
Ed you keep saying that KK is happy with Lucas so that will do for you. Can you not see that Lucas is only being played through necessity? Kenny, like Hodgson and Rafa before him, tried to replace him. He has improved this season no doubt but if we have aspirations of winning a title any time soon I guarantee we won't win one with players of his quality.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:55:44
Hi ed's i saw the marseille vs. man utd match yesterday and i was thinking of what we would do in the summer transfer window. . and suddenly Loic Remy was dribling and made the united deffence look bad. made me think that he would be a good addition for the squad! what do you think of him? and would he be useful for us? (i think so)

Niklas K.

{Editor's Note: Loic Remy is a good player, but he has only just arrived at Marseille, so it seems unlikely that he will leave in the summer.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:52:17
Really looking forward to the game tonight, i think joe cole will show his class, i know alot of people don't want him and don't rate him. maybe its blind faith from me but i think he will come good.
would prefer kuyt upfront instead of ngog but hey who am i to question the king.

always a red

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:54:21
Hi ed, kk has just said johnson complained of slight achiles pain yesterday so not playing as a precaution.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:35:05
Theres a lot of talk about Aguero and no dout he is a fantastic player but i don't think he is the type of player we need because i thought he was like Suarez? i might be wrong im not sure but id have thought if we were to sign another striker it would be as backup which i think we do still need, but for another striker i would have thought it would be someone quick to bring on in the last 20-30 mins of a game to use against tired legs.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:36:26
Really thought pacheco would start tonight? don't like the idea of starting with lucas and poulsen were at anfield against an average team show some balls kenny lad there's youngsters chopping at the bit!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:23:53
To this guy

24 Feb 2011 16:35:10
This is who I would play tonight: -
Reina
Johnson-Kelly-Skrtel-Wilson-Aurelio
- -Shelvey-Lucas-Meireles- - - -
- - - -Cole- - Pacheco- - - - -
- - - - - Kuyt- - - - - - - - - -

Shelvey is actually out with an knee injury till end of season mate what planet have you been living on.

Fowler is God


Just as well he's injured because again another idiot who doesn't know 11 Players allowed.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:28:32
This is who I would play tonight: -
Reina
Johnson-Kelly-Skrtel-Wilson-Aurelio
- -Shelvey-Lucas-Meireles- - - -
- - - -Cole- - Pacheco- - - - -
- - - - - Kuyt- - - - -

Well Shelvey and Aurelio are injured, so at least its not 12 men anymore :L

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:12:54
This is who I would play tonight: -
Reina
Johnson-Kelly-Skrtel-Wilson-Aurelio
- -Shelvey-Lucas-Meireles- - - -
- - - -Cole- - Pacheco- - - - -
- - - - - Kuyt- - - - - - - - - -

Aside from Shelvey and Aurelio being injured you mean?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:13:09
Really Dont understand why kenny is playing 442 , when we was playing better with 532/ 352 formation. :/

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:16:29
Well said mate. Ed's only have opinions, just like us. Anyone with half decent football knowledge know lucas will never be good enough for a top team. Some LFC fans just love a tryer - which he is. How else would Kuyt have played so many rubbish games and still be such an Anfield favourite. Perhaps dare I say that is the problem with LFC nowadays. We love mediocrity. Hence we have a mediocre team.

p.s. all the LFC SA fans that I know do not rate lucas at all.

Ngog, Kuyt, Lucas, Maxi etc will never achieve top 4. Ed, gotta agree with other poster on here, we need at least 5 new players to get top 4. {ed's note - I will take Dalglish's opinions over you every time. He rates Lucas, that will do for me.}

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Yep, we need 5 new players, LB, DM, CM, LW, RW.

Who would you go for mate?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:16:59
Hope Cole starts tonight he is a quality player and you don't lose quality. .hopefully, besides Maxi and Aurellio has not managed to make that posistion theres -Mc (yay internets back on. . did you miss me)

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:18:32
Setting off for the game shortly so gonna be quick. . . . . . . .hope N'Gog is on the bench 'cos he's more of an "impact" player than a starter. Don't think Cole should start for the same reason. I'd play Kuuyt up front and use Meireles or Pacheco as support, with G.Johnson and Aurelio providing the crosses. Wouldn't play Maxi 'cos he's not a starter. Hope Kenny uses youngsters. . .i.e. Kelly, Shelvey, Pacheco, Suso, Sterling, Coady etc.
Not together, obviously, but this is a good chance to bring through some of the better-performing youngsters and send a message to the likes of N'Gog, Maxi and Kuuyt who need to improve.
I don't particularily rate tonight's opponents so I think we could treat this like a League Cup tie. . .


. . . . . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . CARRAGHER. . .KYRGIAKOS. . . . . WILSON.

G.JOHNSON. . . LUCAS. . . .GERRARD. . . AURELIO. .

. . . . . . . . . . . . .MEIRELES. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . .KUUYT. . . . . . JOVANOVIC. . . .

SUBS; JONES, SKIRTEL, POULSEN, COADY, COLE,
STERLING, PACHECO . .maybe not everyone's cup of tea but, in my opinion, should be enough to go through.
ANFIELPETE. . . . . . . . .gotta go!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:57:41
Vidic, Evra & Hernandez didn't come as quality players. £17 million for the lot. They have been coached & drilled into them a winning mentality. Even Nani was 13 milion euros ( still cheap in this Market)didn't come as a finished article. Maybe if we got the best out some of the players we have ( Lucas included) then it would be so much easier to fork out £30 million for a star forward or midfielder. For 15/ 20 years we have failed to get as much out of some players & therefore had to replace them & losing money into the bargin. No need to be spending fortunes on each & every player. As much as it sticks in our throat, football is now a business ( a few teams excluded) & money will not be thrown at a problem. Buy the kids & the future prospects & coach them!

- - - - - - -

Good all round post, I like what you're getting at, but a few incorrect figures.
Vidic cost £7m, Evra cost £6m and Hernandez cost £7m. I know, not a big difference, but I'd personally be ticked off if someone gave me £3m less than they owed me.
The biggest difference is that Nani cost 25m. No idea where you got 13m from, but he definitely cost £22m (he hasn't proved himself worthy of his price-tag, in my opinion). I'll give you a list of expensive United stars of the past few years.

Anderson £18m: (what a waste of money)
Carrick £18m: (for lack of a better term, LOL)
Ferdinand £30m: (good defender, but spends more time injured than Aurelio and Torres put together + even on his best day he isn't worth that)
Rooney £25m: (Has only had one good season and was an unproven 17 year old who had only made a few PL apps - and United fans say Carroll was an expensive risk)
Berbatov £31m: (not worth price)
Veron £30m: (nothing to say here)
Hargreaves £18m: (biggest sicknote of all time)

I rest my case. United have spent massively over the past few years, while we spent barely anything and still maintained a Top 4 spot most of the time. The only decent bargain Fergie has ever done was Ronaldo.

Martin

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:58:12
Vidic, Evra & Hernandez didn't come as quality players. £17 million for the lot. They have been coached & drilled into them a winning mentality. Even Nani was 13 milion euros ( still cheap in this Market)didn't come as a finished article. Maybe if we got the best out some of the players we have ( Lucas included) then it would be so much easier to fork out £30 million for a star forward or midfielder. For 15/ 20 years we have failed to get as much out of some players & therefore had to replace them & losing money into the bargin. No need to be spending fortunes on each & every player. As much as it sticks in our throat, football is now a business ( a few teams excluded) & money will not be thrown at a problem. Buy the kids & the future prospects & coach them!

The Irish Rover



I completely agree that we need to do this better, we need to get the best from our players.

NorthWestBest

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:03:30
To this guy

24 Feb 2011 16:35:10
This is who I would play tonight: -
Reina
Johnson-Kelly-Skrtel-Wilson-Aurelio
- -Shelvey-Lucas-Meireles- - - -
- - - -Cole- - Pacheco- - - - -
- - - - - Kuyt- - - - - - - - - -

Shelvey is actually out with an knee injury till end of season mate what planet have you been living on.

Fowler is God

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 17:11:20
This is who I would play tonight: -
Reina
Johnson-Kelly-Skrtel-Wilson-Aurelio
- -Shelvey-Lucas-Meireles- - - -
- - - -Cole- - Pacheco- - - - -
- - - - - Kuyt- - - - - - - - - -

What twelve players? I thought we was only aloud 11? Manu are allowed twelve including the ref? lol

Lee73

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:35:10
This is who I would play tonight: -
Reina
Johnson-Kelly-Skrtel-Wilson-Aurelio
- -Shelvey-Lucas-Meireles- - - -
- - - -Cole- - Pacheco- - - - -
- - - - - Kuyt- - - - - - - - - -

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:37:08
Does anybody know the line up for tonight?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:51:35
Joe Cole starts tonight official news

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:52:27
Why is it a disgrace to not like Lucas? You Ed obviously dislike Gerrard and regularly make barbed comments about him but I can 100% guarantee if Dalglish had to choose between Gerrard and Lucas he would pick Gerrard without a 2nd thought.
I grant you that Lucas has improved but he is still not that good.
Would you accept that John Aldridge as an ex player and experienced former manager knows more about football than you?
When questioned about Lucas after the Wigan game he said he was ok but still only a squad player at best and shouldn't be a first team regular. That is not insulting him or being a boo boy, just an opinion and coming from Aldridge I would say it is a valid one.

Harry J
**********************
Well said mate. Ed's only have opinions, just like us. Anyone with half decent football knowledge know lucas will never be good enough for a top team. Some LFC fans just love a tryer - which he is. How else would Kuyt have played so many rubbish games and still be such an Anfield favourite. Perhaps dare I say that is the problem with LFC nowadays. We love mediocrity. Hence we have a mediocre team.

p.s. all the LFC SA fans that I know do not rate lucas at all.

Ngog, Kuyt, Lucas, Maxi etc will never achieve top 4. Ed, gotta agree with other poster on here, we need at least 5 new players to get top 4. {ed's note - I will take Dalglish's opinions over you every time. He rates Lucas, that will do for me.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:14:46
In response to the 'redesign the lFC badge' post .

I would like the colour green on the badge to be changed , maybe to the colour Gold ?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:15:31
I have not commented on Sir Alex Ferguson as of yet. People need to stop seeing red (no pun intended) as soon as United, in any context, are mentioned people automatically assume that whoever mentioned them is a fan. I didn't choose to use United as an example, someone else did, and I only replied using the same argument to communicate my principle that alongside tactics, managers, heart, commitment, work ethic to win the EPL you need quality players too. Do you not agree or do you think that Mourinho could win the EPL with Villa and a strong wortk ethic?
- - - - - - - - - - - - -

Vidic, Evra & Hernandez didn't come as quality players. £17 million for the lot. They have been coached & drilled into them a winning mentality. Even Nani was 13 milion euros ( still cheap in this Market)didn't come as a finished article. Maybe if we got the best out some of the players we have ( Lucas included) then it would be so much easier to fork out £30 million for a star forward or midfielder. For 15/ 20 years we have failed to get as much out of some players & therefore had to replace them & losing money into the bargin. No need to be spending fortunes on each & every player. As much as it sticks in our throat, football is now a business ( a few teams excluded) & money will not be thrown at a problem. Buy the kids & the future prospects & coach them!

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:21:31
We should definately get Baines, in my opinion he's the best LB in the world right now when it comes to an all round full back, definately in allegiance with Evra and Ashley Cole anyway in all round full backs
Olly

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:22:08
Think we'll have to agree to disagree. I personally would never call Slur Alex by his title. If Paisley and Shankly seemingly don't deserve it (both who are far better managers than Fergie will ever be), then he shouldn't even get a congratulations from the ballboy.
Yes, he is a good manager and a master tactician, but to be honest he bought the league in the first 5 years - which obviously presented the prize money that spurred them on to dominate and he has since bought numerous titles because Ron Atkinson's academy stopped producing gems under his "guidance".

Anyway, back on subject. I don't care if Kyrgiakos is paid a bottle of Coke and some peanuts for his wage, he isn't and never will be good enough for any successful team - even as back up. If we need someone physical for the Stokes and Birminghams of this world tell the defenders to gang up on their strikers, or better yet stop the long balls at source and get Suarez and Carroll to clatter into their defenders at every opportunity. Spearing is paid barely anything, but he's not even good enough for the Carling Cup games. If we want to rest Gerrard, Meireles & Co for the minor games then play Shelvey or Coady or Suso and maybe throw Lucas in for experience (this scenario requires that Lucas be replaced in the summer or just becomes fitter than he is now).
What shocks me the most is that you actually rate Brad Jones. I didn't notice it on first read of your post, but I just can't understand how anyone can rate this guy. He was even falling out of favour at Middlesborough he's so bad. I'd rather have Gulacsi or Hansen in goal than him during any game.

Bottom line, if we keep players such as Jones (age 29), Kyrgiakos (31, 32 early next season) and Spearing (approaching 23) for next season then we might as well give up and hope we can snatch Europa League from the clutches of Sunderland and Bolton.

Martin




I don't care what Fergusons title is or isn't, that's purely cosmetic and picking up on that rather than any point I was making is at the very least diversionary. I agree that Kyrgiakos isn't good for a succesful team but having him is better than having no one to put at CB in the worst case scenario of a skrtel sold and carra/ agger injury. Like I've now said numerous times my point is not that he is the best CB but that I don't think we can realistically afford to let him go and replace him. We're not City and we're not Chelsea - we don't have billionaire investment. People on here seem to consistantly come up with crap like "I've heard we're raiding Barcelona for Messi and Real Madrid for Higauin, is this true Ed?" When will people wake up and realise we're not going to be shifting out 70% of our squad and buying in ten 20 million pound players and we will have to look at what we can salvage from our squad and spend money only one positions we really NEED. In my eyes this is LW and LB and possibly a Lucas replacement. As for Jones, I don't rate him but I also don't want to get rid of him and have to fork out MORE money on a GK as well as the positions I've stated above. If Hansen or Gulasci are better then why did Roy and now Kenny have Jones on the bench rather than them?
Rather than making out that suddenly we can offload all our dross (and believe me I'm very aware that Jones, Kyrgiakos and co are not good enough to win a title) and buy in loads of world class players I'm just trying to be realistic. Forgive me for not suddenly beleiving that we are going to rival Barcelona, Real Madrid and Man City for players costs and players wages. I think we have a great little squad with some cracking talent coming through but in my opinion we need to keep hold of some players we would perhaps rather not admit we need, when we do, and stop dreaming.


NorthWestBest

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 16:01:28
{Editor's Note: I agree with you then. Liverpool should dump the Academy and just let go of all of the youngsters. You may be best changing your allegiance to Manchester City asd clearly a sugar daddy is what you want.}

I agree with you then. Liverpool should dump the First-Team and use the Academy which has no experience in the Premier League at the age of 16/ 17.
Look mate, no need to be so patronising.

I probably didn't say what I said in the last post how I meant to. I don't want to scrap the Academy, nor do I want LFC to spend crazily like Man City. There needs to be a balance somewhere between the two, whilst also trying to find the new Gerrard's of this world. 3 First Team players and 2 squad players are hardly gonna kill the Academy are they with other players leaving too, making room for some youngsters, like Shelvey, Ayala, Kelly, Pacheco, Wilson etc. And possibly buying hot prospects like Wickham, Oxade-Chamberlain etc.

But Dalglish/ Comolli/ Clarke/ Lee all know more than me, so we'll wait and see, you might be wrong anyway. We'll just have to wait till 1st September ;)

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 15:46:05
What do you think the chances are that LFC focus on signing players that have both 'quality - and only 12 months left on there contract' this summer ?

Ashley Young
Charlie Adam
Jose Enrique
Charles N'Zogbia

3 of them are natural left footers which would balance out Kenny Dalglish' squad - plus the free signing of French left sided player Sylvain Marveaux .

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 15:56:19
I'll concede my point with Spearing. I'm just concerned that we won't have enough depth next year and although he won't be the next Gerrard he provides a bit of depth for early stage domestic cup games to save our first choice midfielders and is hardly eating into our wage budget.

I have not commented on Sir Alex Ferguson as of yet. People need to stop seeing red (no pun intended) as soon as United, in any context, are mentioned people automatically assume that whoever mentioned them is a fan. I didn't choose to use United as an example, someone else did, and I only replied using the same argument to communicate my principle that alongside tactics, managers, heart, commitment, work ethic to win the EPL you need quality players too. Do you not agree or do you think that Mourinho could win the EPL with Villa and a strong wortk ethic?

Aside from this surely no one can argue that Ferguson is a bad manager?

- - - - - -

I think we'll have to agree to disagree. I personally would never call Slur Alex by his title. If Paisley and Shankly seemingly don't deserve it (both who are far better managers than Fergie will ever be), then he shouldn't even get a congratulations from the ballboy.
Yes, he is a good manager and a master tactician, but to be honest he bought the league in the first 5 years - which obviously presented the prize money that spurred them on to dominate and he has since bought numerous titles because Ron Atkinson's academy stopped producing gems under his "guidance".

Anyway, back on subject. I don't care if Kyrgiakos is paid a bottle of Coke and some peanuts for his wage, he isn't and never will be good enough for any successful team - even as back up. If we need someone physical for the Stokes and Birminghams of this world tell the defenders to gang up on their strikers, or better yet stop the long balls at source and get Suarez and Carroll to clatter into their defenders at every opportunity. Spearing is paid barely anything, but he's not even good enough for the Carling Cup games. If we want to rest Gerrard, Meireles & Co for the minor games then play Shelvey or Coady or Suso and maybe throw Lucas in for experience (this scenario requires that Lucas be replaced in the summer or just becomes fitter than he is now).
What shocks me the most is that you actually rate Brad Jones. I didn't notice it on first read of your post, but I just can't understand how anyone can rate this guy. He was even falling out of favour at Middlesborough he's so bad. I'd rather have Gulacsi or Hansen in goal than him during any game.

Bottom line, if we keep players such as Jones (age 29), Kyrgiakos (31, 32 early next season) and Spearing (approaching 23) for next season then we might as well give up and hope we can snatch Europa League from the clutches of Sunderland and Bolton.

Martin

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 15:40:09
{Editor's Note: No problem - but why not hit the books for a few hours?}

ha , done lots of revision this week, can't take anymore. . btw if you don't think we need 5 players (DM, LW, RW, CM, LB) what do you think we're missing then?

{Editor's Note: I expect at least one, probably two, wingers and a back-up striker. Every player added is taking away a place from the young players coming through - and if that is Liverpool's way foward thenexpect them to leave in droves. Adding another CM seems unnecessary.}

I don't understand this, yeah, young players are good but that's for the future. Every year we have new expectations of the youth and most of the time they don't deliver. If we don't have enough experienced and proven players that can hack it in top leagues, and our youth doesn't deliver then what do we do? IMO, those 5 positions are needed otherwise i can't see us getting anywhere next season. A striker isn't needed, as Kuyt should not be playing on the wing anyway and we have Ngog who is still young. This money is needed towards an influential CM, Gerrard is getting old and injury prone, and without him and Meireles, theres nothing there to provide spark. Unless Cole can step up majorly (unlikely).

With lots of players leaving, and only a LB, ST, LW, RW coming in our squad is gonna be so thin its unreal. Its already like a twig right now. Especially because the signings are not even top-class. LB- Enrique, Izaguirre? LW- Marveaux? RW- Young? ST- Wickham? Thats a joke imo and its not a funny one.

{Editor's Note: I agree with you then. Liverpool should dump the Academy and just let go of all of the youngsters. You may be best changing your allegiance to Manchester City asd clearly a sugar daddy is what you want.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 15:05:09
You're a real enigma, NorthWestBest, you think our worst players are good and you worship at Slur Alex's feet; yet you maintain that you're a Liverpool fan.
It is vital we rid ourselves of players like Kyrgiakos and Spearing. Kyrgiakos is a good attacking threat, but he is a terrible defender, has no pace whatsoever, has the turning speed of a crane and doesn't even have the attribute of height anymore now that Kelly and Skrtel are the same size as him and ahead of him in the pecking order.
Spearing is the natural successor to Bruno Cheyrou in his mediocrity, except worse. He's weak, small, has a terrible pass and can't tackle properly; yet some bright bulb has decided his best position is defensive midfielder. I despair for the current state of grassroots football.
Spearing isn't good enough currently and he's not going to get better. He's about to turn 23 and will never be able to get into the first team. Sell him to a Championship team, for the sake of his career.

Skrtel isn't good enough for a Top 4 team, but I'd allow him to stick around if he agrees to sitting on the bench while Wilson/ Ayala/ Kelly play in his position.

Martin


Aside from enjoying being called an enigma as it had a nice ring to it, I feel the only reason you've said it is because I refuse to fall in line with everyone else and bash United becuase "that's what real Liverpool fans do" and I choose to actually argue against some of the halfwit comments made by 90% of the people on this forum because they're said with bias to fit in and follow the herd.

Actually Martin what I wrote has perfect logic behind it.

My point came after an Ed compiled a list of about 10 players to sell in the summer. My concern was that offloading all these players would leave our squad depth comparable to a puddle. I don't think Kyrgiakos is good but he does a job against physical teams like Stoke. He is a great header of the ball and on set peices against these big physical teams it's good to have someone like him, he is 11 kg heavier than Skrtel or Kelly so can throw his weight around. He's also, although I obviously have never seen his wage slip, not on a load of money so he's not going to eat into our wage budget. My whole logic behind keeping him was not because he is going to suddenly become the best CB in the EPL but because I can't see us affording to replace Skrtel AND Krygiakos as well as the other positions we need to buy for in the summer and it would be good to keep a bruiser like him for the more physical of games. The sole reason I'd rather sell Skrtel is because he is worse offensively, on more a week, isn't as strong and we could get more money for him than Kyrgiakos.

I'll concede my point with Spearing. I'm just concerned that we won't have enough depth next year and although he won't be the next Gerrard he provides a bit of depth for early stage domestic cup games to save our first choice midfielders and is hardly eating into our wage budget.

I have not commented on Sir Alex Ferguson as of yet. People need to stop seeing red (no pun intended) as soon as United, in any context, are mentioned people automatically assume that whoever mentioned them is a fan. I didn't choose to use United as an example, someone else did, and I only replied using the same argument to communicate my principle that alongside tactics, managers, heart, commitment, work ethic to win the EPL you need quality players too. Do you not agree or do you think that Mourinho could win the EPL with Villa and a strong wortk ethic?

Aside from this surely no one can argue that Ferguson is a bad manager?

NorthWestBest

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 15:05:49
Still see some people going on about Lucas. Just watch the match tonight and see how bad he is, if he does play well tonight i'll be back on tomorrow and will apologise to all the Lucas-lovers.

I see Gerrard will be named on the bench tonight and no Suarez and Carroll. Although i think we should play with two strikers at home tonight i don't think N'Gog deserves a starting spot. Tonight would of been a perfect game for a pairing of Kuyt and Babel up front, Kuyt doing all the donkey work with Babel feeding off him. I've not seen much of Pacheco but he has all the hype about him, i think Kuyt and Pacheco should be played up front tonight

Starting line up - Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Skrtel, Kelly, Cole, Meireles , Lucas, Maxi, Kuyt , Pacheco {ed's note - I hate to suggest that just maybe Dalglish might know more than you about football, but you don't even seem to realise that Suarez is ineligible. Babel never performed in a Liverpool shirt, yet you think he deserved a chance and not Lucas, who has taken the abuse that he has not deserved without complaint. In fact he has just worked harder on his game and got better and better, for boo-boys like you to continue to insult him is disgraceful. It is not about being a 'Lucas-lover', it is about appreciating a player who has worked his backside off to get better and clearly has improved massively.}


well said ed, i'll openly admit im a " lucas lover " hes showed more class, grit, determination an passion over the last year than any other squad member, when things were bad an everybody around him were spitting there dummies out he was busting a gut to get better under a mass of abuse from so called fans who could'nt see the improvement he was making in every game, lucas player of the season !

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 15:06:35
{Editor's Note: No problem - but why not hit the books for a few hours?}

ha , done lots of revision this week, can't take anymore. . btw if you don't think we need 5 players (DM, LW, RW, CM, LB) what do you think we're missing then?

{Editor's Note: I expect at least one, probably two, wingers and a back-up striker. Every player added is taking away a place from the young players coming through - and if that is Liverpool's way foward thenexpect them to leave in droves. Adding another CM seems unnecessary.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 15:08:20
Jose Enrique - £8m
N'Zogbia - £9m
Aquilani to return from loan spell at Juventus if they don't meet the £12m asking price.

Realistic summer targets.

Just wondering how these are just ur realistic targets after signing Carroll (35 mill) and Suarez For (23 mill) without the certainty of the sale of Torres, he could of failed his medical, he mightn't of agreed personal terms. think we might be going for bigger fish than these 2 although they would improve our squad but not our team.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:57:17
Anyone know if any supporters groups might raise the issue of the badge being redesigned? I know it isn't exactly top priority, but i really dislike the modern design - it's like they couldn't stop adding things.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:52:07
Ed, know the team for tonight? or anyone who's starting?

{Editor's Note: It won't be announced just yet.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:39:55
{ed's note - I hate to suggest that just maybe Dalglish might know more than you about football, but you don't even seem to realise that Suarez is ineligible. Babel never performed in a Liverpool shirt, yet you think he deserved a chance and not Lucas, who has taken the abuse that he has not deserved without complaint. In fact he has just worked harder on his game and got better and better, for boo-boys like you to continue to insult him is disgraceful. It is not about being a 'Lucas-lover', it is about appreciating a player who has worked his backside off to get better and clearly has improved massively.}
---------------------------------------------------
Why is it a disgrace to not like Lucas? You Ed obviously dislike Gerrard and regularly make barbed comments about him but I can 100% guarantee if Dalglish had to choose between Gerrard and Lucas he would pick Gerrard without a 2nd thought.
I grant you that Lucas has improved but he is still not that good.
Would you accept that John Aldridge as an ex player and experienced former manager knows more about football than you?
When questioned about Lucas after the Wigan game he said he was ok but still only a squad player at best and shouldn't be a first team regular. That is not insulting him or being a boo boy, just an opinion and coming from Aldridge I would say it is a valid one.

Harry J

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:42:29
Still see some people going on about Lucas. Just watch the match tonight and see how bad he is, if he does play well tonight i'll be back on tomorrow and will apologise to all the Lucas-lovers.

I see Gerrard will be named on the bench tonight and no Suarez and Carroll. Although i think we should play with two strikers at home tonight i don't think N'Gog deserves a starting spot. Tonight would of been a perfect game for a pairing of Kuyt and Babel up front, Kuyt doing all the donkey work with Babel feeding off him. I've not seen much of Pacheco but he has all the hype about him, i think Kuyt and Pacheco should be played up front tonight

Starting line up - Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Skrtel, Kelly, Cole, Meireles , Lucas, Maxi, Kuyt , Pacheco {ed's note - I hate to suggest that just maybe Dalglish might know more than you about football, but you don't even seem to realise that Suarez is ineligible. Babel never performed in a Liverpool shirt, yet you think he deserved a chance and not Lucas, who has taken the abuse that he has not deserved without complaint. In fact he has just worked harder on his game and got better and better, for boo-boys like you to continue to insult him is disgraceful. It is not about being a 'Lucas-lover', it is about appreciating a player who has worked his backside off to get better and clearly has improved massively.}
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Hello Ed, i don't see where your getting at with your Suarez comment, i know he is not eligible to play tonight that's why i stated no Suarez and Carroll (maybe i should of stated why) but i won't say anymore on the Lucas topic and im sure i will be proved right tonight. Dont get me wrong he has played good games for the club his last been against Chelsea but he has very few good games. And Babel, well yeah your right about Babel he has not done much for LFC but my point was that he would of been a better choice than N'Gog for tonights match. I think next season if we don't ship Lucas out he will be nothing more than a squad player

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:44:52
24 Feb 2011 13:49:53
24 Feb 2011 13:31:10
Watched Players:

Jose Enrique
Leighton Baines
Emilio Izaguirre
Charlie Adam
Yann M'Vila
Blaise Matuidi
Jeremy Toulalan
Eden Hazard
Gervinho
Ashley Young
Sylvain Marveaux
Antoine Griezmann
Arda Turan
Charles N'zogbia
Etienne Capoue
Christian Eriksen

Ed, is there anyone else you can add to this, and whats the likelihood of getting these players out of 10?

Answer my question please Ed

{Editor's Note: 3, 3, 5, 6, 7, 3, 2, 0, 5, 7, 9, 3, 4, 5, 3, 1}

Lol, this has not given me much hope for next season, if Marveaux is the most likely to join us, out of all those players, as we need a DM, LW, RW, LB, CM. Do you think we will sign a player for each of these positions? {ed's note - not all of those, nor do we need that many signings.}

I think we do need 5 signings:

-DM because we need to get rid of Spearo and Poulsen, even though they are PL material, not good enough for LFC. I would go for M'Vila or Matuidi.

-LW because Kuyt and Maxi are not good enough to start every week and they can't cross, especially Maxi. And we need a good crosser if we want the best of Carroll. I would go for Young or Turan.

-RW because we need good back-up and squad players. We are probably getting Marveaux for this reason.

-CM because we're lacking creativity at times, when Meireles and Gerrard are out, as proven against Wigan even though we played okay. I would go for Charlie Adam, unless Aqua stays.

-LB because Konchesky and Insua arent good enough. Aurelio is very injury prone so we need a good left back, and we should keep Aurelio for his backup as he is a good player. I would go for Baines.

In:
Young- 13m (Last year of contract )
Marveaux- Free ( Out of contract )
Baines- 8m ( Everton need the money )
M'Vila- 10m+ ( Rising French youngster )
Adam- 5/ 6m ( Last year of contract, and BP might get relegated )

Out:
Poulsen- 4m ( Good player, but not good enough for us )
Konch- 2m ( Decent for Fulham, not for us though )
Jova- 5m ( Wolfsburg offered 6m in Jan )
Aqua- 11m ( Wants to leave, no player bigger than the club, and we're not budging off 11m )
Insua- Out of Contract ( Not good enough )
Degen- 2m ( Fast but that's it )
El Zhar- 2m ( Not good enough )

Roughly spent around 15m; getting rid of deadwood and replacing them with younger, better players. And I don't think this a wishlist, this is realistic.

Sorry for bugging you Ed, but im on my half-term break and got nothing better to do :P

{Editor's Note: No problem - but why not hit the books for a few hours?}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:51:19
Hi Ed I think all these foreign names we are linked with in the summer are a no go i expect Ashley Young to sign and defnitely think the king fancies Baines at left back also Charlie Adam looks a done deal if we show our interest again expect Konchesky Ngog Poulsen Maxi to depart

Yeah, agreed with signings but not departures. Poulsen and Konch, yeah. But Maxi would leave and Jova would stay? ?

I expect at least one French/ French League player that Comolli knows to join(a DM) in addition to Marveaux, along with those 3 you mentioned. I think Ngog will be sent out on loan, and Wickham will be bought in too

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:33:45
Sky bet are putting 7-2 odds on carroll being teh first goalscorer tonight. . any chance of him playing ?

{Editor's Note: No.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:31:38
ITS 3rd striker

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:27:51
I think pacheco must be given a chance tonight. If he does well, we can look him as a sub for us in league. He deserves a chance. He will surely develop well under King and can possibly our #rd striker next season

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:26:10
Would love if we tried go for Gourcoff. Anybody any opinions?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:25:00
Was my point Ed. I don't think we should offload Jones and I don't think we should offload both Skrtel and Kyrgiakos and I also don't think we should sell Spearing. He's on about 10k a week and, whilst not being the next Zidane, he's not awful either. Means we have at least back up.

- - - - - - -

You're a real enigma, NorthWestBest, you think our worst players are good and you worship at Slur Alex's feet; yet you maintain that you're a Liverpool fan.
It is vital we rid ourselves of players like Kyrgiakos and Spearing. Kyrgiakos is a good attacking threat, but he is a terrible defender, has no pace whatsoever, has the turning speed of a crane and doesn't even have the attribute of height anymore now that Kelly and Skrtel are the same size as him and ahead of him in the pecking order.
Spearing is the natural successor to Bruno Cheyrou in his mediocrity, except worse. He's weak, small, has a terrible pass and can't tackle properly; yet some bright bulb has decided his best position is defensive midfielder. I despair for the current state of grassroots football.
Spearing isn't good enough currently and he's not going to get better. He's about to turn 23 and will never be able to get into the first team. Sell him to a Championship team, for the sake of his career.

Skrtel isn't good enough for a Top 4 team, but I'd allow him to stick around if he agrees to sitting on the bench while Wilson/ Ayala/ Kelly play in his position.

Martin

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 14:17:46
{ed's note - anyone who isn't 45 with dodgy knees would be a plus. Aguero/ Llorente would be my first choice players though.}

What about Carroll or Aguero lol. That's an easy 1. I know Ed you don't like him as a player but what are your thoughts on him now?

{Editor's Note: Why would any thoughts about him have changed?}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 13:52:27
In reply to the secret Manc - NorthWestBest

Vidic - Best centre in EPL yes but can fold under pressure (FT)
Evra - Slowing down, no where near ashley cole.
Ferdinand - crippled with injuries.
Nani - epl player of the year but who would want a cheating little girl like him in their team?
Berbatov - technically very good (£30m - no)
Giggs - Good 5 years ago, now he is unbelievably over rated and average at best.
Scholes - was one of the best players, now he plays a steady passing game in CM. Against a young tough tackler he will fold or get sent off.
Hernandez - Very good player.

The rest such as Anderson and Carrick are midtable starting 11 centre mids.

UTD have some very good players but it is obvious only a few are world class (Vidic, Nani, Rooney, Berbatov) and the team needs revitlising with some proven talent. For the moment their team work and ethic is keeping them up the top of the league and masking their individual weaknesses.



I'm not a secret Manc, I'm an open Liverpool fan I was just arguing my point. I stated that we have a few average players which I would personally like to see replaced over others in the summer and someone took it as a personal insult and jumped to Liverpools defence by stating that Man U have average players but were winning the EPL why can't we. This is obviously, even to the most bias fan, not the case so I took it upon myself to pull his head from the sand and point out that however much you hate them you can't deny that they have some great players in their starting 11. In fact your post supports my argument more than anything. As for the Evra comment, I'm not sure I said he was anywhere near Ashley Cole merely that he is second to him. I can't think of a left back better than Evra or Cole in the EPL. Nani - again I never said I wanted him at Liverpool but you have stated he is player of the year therefore supporting my argument. I said Berbatov was good I didn't comment on his price tag, you also agree that he is good. Scholes' whole game now is a passing game which he is VERY good at, you agree. I said Hernandez was a very good player, you agree. I also said that the rest of the team, Anderson/ Carrick/ Fletcher are just the engine and work all game and not world class but they do a job are supported by the rest of the quality players and yes Man U do need to add to this team in the summer, I didn't mention that but that wasn't my point so felt I didn't have to.

To clarify, I didn't choose to analyse Man United, I would have done the same if the argument had of been for City, Chelsea or Arsenal. My point was not that I wanted United players or that United were the best team in the world. My point was merely that United don't just have "Passion, Tactics, Confidence, Moral, a great manager & coaches & a will to win" but they also have a number of world class players too and that I think although WE now have "Passion, Tactics, Confidence, Moral, a great manager & coaches & a will to win" we are still lacking quality in a few areas and all the passion and tactics in the world won't be enough, we need to replace them with better players.

NorthWestBest

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 13:45:29
Still see some people going on about Lucas. Just watch the match tonight and see how bad he is, if he does play well tonight i'll be back on tomorrow and will apologise to all the Lucas-lovers.

I see Gerrard will be named on the bench tonight and no Suarez and Carroll. Although i think we should play with two strikers at home tonight i don't think N'Gog deserves a starting spot. Tonight would of been a perfect game for a pairing of Kuyt and Babel up front, Kuyt doing all the donkey work with Babel feeding off him. I've not seen much of Pacheco but he has all the hype about him, i think Kuyt and Pacheco should be played up front tonight

Starting line up - Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Skrtel, Kelly, Cole, Meireles , Lucas, Maxi, Kuyt , Pacheco {ed's note - I hate to suggest that just maybe Dalglish might know more than you about football, but you don't even seem to realise that Suarez is ineligible. Babel never performed in a Liverpool shirt, yet you think he deserved a chance and not Lucas, who has taken the abuse that he has not deserved without complaint. In fact he has just worked harder on his game and got better and better, for boo-boys like you to continue to insult him is disgraceful. It is not about being a 'Lucas-lover', it is about appreciating a player who has worked his backside off to get better and clearly has improved massively.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 13:31:10
Watched Players:

Jose Enrique
Leighton Baines
Emilio Izaguirre
Charlie Adam
Yann M'Vila
Blaise Matuidi
Jeremy Toulalan
Eden Hazard
Gervinho
Ashley Young
Sylvain Marveaux
Antoine Griezmann
Arda Turan
Charles N'zogbia
Etienne Capoue
Christian Eriksen

Ed, is there anyone else you can add to this, and whats the likelihood of getting these players out of 10?

Answer my question please Ed

{Editor's Note: 3,3,5,6,7,3,2,0,5,7,9,3,4,5,3,1}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 13:33:33
Any truth in the rumour about Alonso wishing to return ?

Liverpool need a left back. Two dedicated wingers and perhaps another striker.

Why is Jovanovic not given a chance ?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 13:09:43
In which areas wud you stregthen the 1st team ed? an with who? {ed's note - left back, both wings and a striker. Not entirely sure who, Alexis Sanchez and Aly Cissokho would defo be on my wishlist though.}


yeah sanchez is awesome an wud be on mine aswel, not seen much of cissokho tho, i think that sanchez wud be hard to get because of other interest so i wud add milos krasic to that aswel

what dya think? {ed's note - I have not seen a lot of Krasic to be honest.}


you can watch italian football on espn, he looks the buisness an wud be alot cheaper than sanchez

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 13:07:06
Hi eds and fellow liverpool supporters, was just in paddy powers and saw a very interesting bet.
Liverpool to remain unbeaten in all competitions til end of season, i realise we will have to win europa league which is very possible but odds of 66/ 1 seem very good to me.
just stuck 10 quid on. wat ya's reckon, good or bad bet

{Editor's Note: I can't condone gambling I am afraid. But I wish you well with it.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:50:09
Anyone else hear the prize comment last night:. . . . .and Rooney gets inside Fanni
(Priceless Coleman Balls)
Where's Julian Dicks when you need him ?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:55:30
In reply to the secret Manc - NorthWestBest

Vidic - Best centre in EPL yes but can fold under pressure (FT)
Evra - Slowing down, no where near ashley cole.
Ferdinand - crippled with injuries.
Nani - epl player of the year but who would want a cheating little girl like him in their team?
Berbatov - technically very good (£30m - no)
Giggs - Good 5 years ago, now he is unbelievably over rated and average at best.
Scholes - was one of the best players, now he plays a steady passing game in CM. Against a young tough tackler he will fold or get sent off.
Hernandez - Very good player.

The rest such as Anderson and Carrick are midtable starting 11 centre mids.

UTD have some very good players but it is obvious only a few are world class (Vidic, Nani, Rooney, Berbatov) and the team needs revitlising with some proven talent. For the moment their team work and ethic is keeping them up the top of the league and masking their individual weaknesses.

It is clear that ARSENAL has a far superior squad and will probably win the title this year.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:57:08
In which areas wud you stregthen the 1st team ed? an with who? {ed's note - left back, both wings and a striker. Not entirely sure who, Alexis Sanchez and Aly Cissokho would defo be on my wishlist though.}


yeah sanchez is awesome an wud be on mine aswel, not seen much of cissokho tho, i think that sanchez wud be hard to get because of other interest so i wud add milos krasic to that aswel

what dya think ? {ed's note - I have not seen a lot of Krasic to be honest.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:28:01
King Kenny targeting a number of players in the summer. Left back a priority with Izzaguire and Jose Enrique topping Daglish's wish list. Also wanting to add attacking options with Young, Turan and Benzema being watched.

What do you think the chances are of any of these happening ed?

The Lurgan Lad

{Editor's Note: I don't know about Izzaguire, but I would be surprised by Enrique. All of the others are discussed in depth elsewhere here.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:00:10
Lucky you mate!
Wish i could too, but the wife would skin me!
If i ever win the Euro millions i'll give £50m to LFC to buy Aguero & the rest i'd use to live off while i talk fottball all day on these sort of websites! If ya play your cards right ed's i may give you a couple of million to be at my service for any inside questions i need answering quick sharp lol! Oh if only - wishful thinking lol!
Goodnight ed's & all.
Cheers,
Irish Kev. {ed's note - good luck with the lotto!}

Irish Kev. . what if you only win 12m ha ha?

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:01:02
Wud you agree with me on the need for more impact player for the bench ?

{Editor's Note: I don't really know what you mean by "impact player for the bench"}

a quality attack minded player who can come on an change the game, because at the minute there isn't any

{Editor's Note: How easy will it be to persuade a "quality attack minded player" to move to Liverpool just to sit on the bench? So no I don't agree.}

could this be joe cole's role in the side? remember his late winner against bolton after coming off the bench
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well it seems to work for hernandez at united ed

{Editor's Note: He is a kid and will not want a career on teh bench. It will not be easy to find and persuade a player to move for such a role.}


ok fair enough but do you agree that our bench isn't very strong an needs stregnthening alot? {ed's note - not really, I would say it is our first team that needs strengthening so that the likes of Sterling can be given a bench role.}


in which areas wud you stregthen the 1st team ed? an with who ? {ed's note - left back, both wings and a striker. Not entirely sure who, Alexis Sanchez and Aly Cissokho would defo be on my wishlist though.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:01:26
You see, it's this sort of statement that gets on my nerves. Let's have a look at the team sitting on top of the league at the minute & their players. A 40 year old keeper, O'Shea, Fabio, Rafael, Carrick, Anderson, A 39 year old left sided player, A 37 year old centre mid, Anderson & so on! These are players that either should be past their sell by date or most people don't really rate that much, yet this season again are sitting pretty in the League, CL & FA Cup. There has got to be so much more than having a superstar in every position on the pitch. Passion, Tactics, Confidence, Moral, a great manager & coaches & a will to win. Every one of these is probably more important than having £20 million footballers
filling 11 places. Just look at the difference in our own team since KK has taken over! Same players yet massively different results. Yes we need a few players but we've also got to have faith with the players we have.

The Irish Rover

Keepers can play a lot longer than out field players, especially when they are protected by a great defence.

So lets look at this team past the keeper.

Vidic - probably the best CB in the PL? was voted Best player by players in 09/ 10
Evra - second best left back after Ashley Cole?
Ferdinand - Old but still a great centre back
Nani - most goals and assists this year
Berbatov - highest goal scoring striker this year
Giggs - an exception to the rule that wingers don't play much past 32, probably the best player to ever grace the PL
Scholes - plays a completely different game to how he used to play, started a lot less games than before but age does not deteriorate the ability to pass a ball and similarly to Giggs one of the best players to play in the PL
Rooney - although low on goals provides a lot more than that for his team.
Hernandez - young player who has scored 11 goals from 13 starts

The rest such as Fletcher/ Anderson/ Carrick just provide the engine and run all game.


I am a Liverpool fan but I'm not a fantasist I am a realist. Uniteds team is good AND they have "Passion, Tactics, Confidence, Moral, a great manager & coaches & a will to win"


NorthWestBest

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:04:11
"The Madness of King Roy XXXI"

- The Art of Football? -

Ed: this is amazing post. u shud put this onto the Arsenal pages and see what they make of it. Gr8 stuff Steve and u seem to be posting better n better stuff every day! !

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:05:36
24 Feb 2011 11:09:36
Martin Skrtel has joked about transfer speculation linking him away from Liverpool.

A Sky Sports News reporter quizzed Skrtel on his plans for the future and links with a move away from the club - at which point manager Kenny Dalglish intervened by telling the questioner: "Behave yourself.

"You've been linked to the BBC! There is a difference between a link and a fact."

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Love it!

Kenny has the guts to put those pansy press in their place and knows how to do it.

The pansy press have been muck stirring and making up stories for years trying to destabalise our club.
It is about time they learnt some respect for the most successful football club in the history of the English game.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:13:08
Can someone tell me why tonight's game is a 6:00pm kick off? Thanks

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:16:18
Ed regarding your comment

Editor's Note: I don't really know what you mean by "impact player for the bench"}

You cannot be serious - it means a player capable of changing the course of a game when coming on in the latter stages, Fairclough the best example. It means someone other than the poor quality people on the bench who can just come on and do a job - at best {ed's note - Fairclough was not intended to be on the bench though. If you are looking at buying players because they can come off the bench and do something then you need to go watch some football and learn about the game and realise it is 90minutes long.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 12:24:05
"Behave yourself. You've been linked to the BBC! There is a difference between a link and a fact."

I have to say, the way Kenny has handled the press since his return is first class. God I love this man!

The Booter

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 11:52:32
It will be very interesting so see how many points we can accumulate until the end of the season under KK's tenure. Just to do a wee equation & see in theory how many points we might have got if KK had been appointed at the start of the season. Obviously a lot of other factors such as injuries would show a clearer result, but it might prove to a few people about the need for other things other than a wish list of superstars!

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 11:37:58
Wud you agree with me on the need for more impact player for the bench ?

{Editor's Note: I don't really know what you mean by "impact player for the bench"}

a quality attack minded player who can come on an change the game, because at the minute there isn't any

{Editor's Note: How easy will it be to persuade a "quality attack minded player" to move to Liverpool just to sit on the bench? So no I don't agree.}

could this be joe cole's role in the side? remember his late winner against bolton after coming off the bench
- - - - - - - - - - - - -
well it seems to work for hernandez at united ed

{Editor's Note: He is a kid and will not want a career on teh bench. It will not be easy to find and persuade a player to move for such a role.}


ok fair enough but do you agree that our bench isn't very strong an needs stregnthening alot ? {ed's note - not really, I would say it is our first team that needs strengthening so that the likes of Sterling can be given a bench role.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 11:37:59
{Editor's Note: A different Ed - you are forgetting Ayala as a centre back. It is hard to see seven first team players being replaced in the summer.}


Was my point Ed. I don't think we should offload Jones and I don't think we should offload both Skrtel and Kyrgiakos and I also don't think we should sell Spearing. He's on about 10k a week and, whilst not being the next Zidane, he's not awful either. Means we have at least back up.

NorthWestBest {ed's note - Jones is awful mate, Gulacsi, Hansen etc are far better keepers.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 11:36:14
Well it seems to work for hernandez at united ed

{Editor's Note: He is a kid and will not want a career on teh bench. It will not be easy to find and persuade a player to move for such a role.}

You're both correct there really, yeah Ed is right that no one will want to come to sit on the bench, but on the other hand someone is need who is exciting and a bit explosive and give the team an edge if we're playing a bit flat. Def would need to be young to accept sitting on the bench. . Suso / Pacheco anyone?! I think all our managers thought Babel would be this type of player. .obviously not!

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 11:36:50
Maxi, Meireles, Aurelio and Lucas as first team midfielders and Jonjo as youth. Gerrard is becoming old and injury prone (still great when not injured) Maxi and Aurelio and Lucas to a certain extent (good squad player but I don't think he's good enough to win the title with
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
You see, it's this sort of statement that gets on my nerves. Let's have a look at the team sitting on top of the league at the minute & their players. A 40 year old keeper, O'Shea, Fabio, Rafael, Carrick, Anderson, A 39 year old left sided player, A 37 year old centre mid, Anderson & so on! These are players that either should be past their sell by date or most people don't really rate that much, yet this season again are sitting pretty in the League, CL & FA Cup. There has got to be so much more than having a superstar in every position on the pitch. Passion, Tactics, Confidence, Moral, a great manager & coaches & a will to win. Every one of these is probably more important than having £20 million footballers
filling 11 places. Just look at the difference in our own team since KK has taken over! Same players yet massively different results. Yes we need a few players but we've also got to have faith with the players we have.

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 11:27:30
Wud you agree with me on the need for more impact player for the bench?

What we really need is an impact player from the kick-off. I think that we would get a lot more victories if we could score early and then score again. At the moment we don't score until well in to a match and don't consolidate any lead. The truth is that Liverpool is far more likely to concede a goal after scoring than get another one. What we also need that we haven't had for a very long time is more goals from other players and we really need to perfect corners and free-kicks in front of goal. Against Wigan Aurelio and Maxi wasted really good chances Suarez was extremely unlucky and I think that he should take those free-kicks in the future.
Mal 21


i agree with you that we need to consolidate a lead, but when you look at our bench it doesn't look very strong at all

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 11:24:52
Martin Skrtel has joked about transfer speculation linking him away from Liverpool.

A Sky Sports News reporter quizzed Skrtel on his plans for the future and links with a move away from the club - at which point manager Kenny Dalglish intervened by telling the questioner: "Behave yourself.

"You've been linked to the BBC! There is a difference between a link and a fact."

The question was then re-phrased to whether Skrtel sees himself as having a big future in L4.

"Of course, " he replied


gotta love that, quality !

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 11:19:56
Wud you agree with me on the need for more impact player for the bench ?

{Editor's Note: I don't really know what you mean by "impact player for the bench"}

a quality attack minded player who can come on an change the game, because at the minute there isn't any

{Editor's Note: How easy will it be to persuade a "quality attack minded player" to move to Liverpool just to sit on the bench? So no I don't agree.}

could this be joe cole's role in the side? remember his late winner against bolton after coming off the bench
--------------------------
well it seems to work for hernandez at united ed

{Editor's Note: He is a kid and will not want a career on teh bench. It will not be easy to find and persuade a player to move for such a role.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 11:06:23
"The Madness of King Roy XXXI"

- The Art of Football? -

As we prepare to play Sparta Prague tonight, I was hoping we might put Sterling and Connor on the bench for a second time and maybe give them 10 minutes towards the end of the game: dependent on the score and with allowance for their youth commitments. Here the word is youth - and it's the word that I feel Arsene Wenger and the Arsenal supporters have been corrupting the game with for the past few years.

Second only to my distate for so called 'pundits', is my utter irritation at the way Arsenal have whined, whinged and protested too much about youth and their precious skills over the past few years.

There is no such thing as a tackle with Arsenal.
Anything that faintly resembles anyone getting within a foot of them and they scream foul!
Arsene Wenger rages aginst managers such as Tony Pulis and Alex McCleish and disparages anything about the physical side of the game.

NOBODY plays beautiful football like Arsenal - according to their players and supporters - and it is unacceptable that the rest of the league should try and tackle them to stop them playing!
They believe they hold a monopoly on style.
They are the only ones with young players with grace and flair.
They hold the torch for beautiful football.
Nobody should be tackling them to prevent them displaying their skills.
They only have 'young boys' who need protection.
. . STOP THIS BABBLING NONSENSE! !

I blame the rest of you out there in football land for reading what they say, listening to their whining and accepting they are something very young, very special, very talented and in need of protection from people who can tackle.

There is no 'art' in the tackle, but it is a thing to applaud when done with timing and style that we often see. The problem with Arsenal is that they do not have anyone who can put in an effective tackle.
Fabregas is a vain, sly and whining player with a nasty streak and self-deluded importance - all I say, fostered and mentored by Wenger. His self importance has seen him adopt a beligerent attitude to other players; none are as fit to wear the shirt as him, hence his recent refusals to swap shirts with 'lesser' players sums him up.

There is no art to football that excludes the harder aspects of the game. Liverpool have played beautfiul football over the years with a hard edge, thanks to Smith, Souness, Case and others. This is football in in its true form. Art imitates life we are told and there is no respite from violence in most of our lives.

I have little respect for Wenger because of this. He wants everything attuned to suit his team - no tackling and respect in bundles because his players are young. "They need protecting!" he screams. Then so do managers from your fans Arsene: like the man who said on talkS**T yesterday that Tony Pulis was 'a nobody.' This is the style and grace of Arsenal - we are all inferior to them and how dare we tackle them about anything!

I remember managing an U16 team in 1998: we man-marked a very talented player who ran their midfield. We man-marked him so tightly that he never touched the ball for most of the game. It was a draw and the manger of the team screamed at me after the game that I didn't know what I was doing. Why? Because I stopped a 'great' player playing! Is this nonsense not what Wenger suggests? Maybe like that manager I encountered, the rest of the PL managers should bow to Arsenal because their players are more skilful and young?

Like my favourite topics of pundits, I ask if we are better off without people like Wenger and Fabregas. If the PL is beneath them and not good enough for their skills, then surely a move to Spain or Italy would suit? We have young skilful players and KK is not bleating about tackling. Ferguson has: his railing against other teams over not letting RonnyAldo run riot against them was just as laughable.

My suggestion is to outlaw all tackling - as they seem to do in the majority of junior games in Italy, France, Belgium and Spain - and sit back, marvel and worship at the altar of youth moulded the Arsenal way. While you are doing that, I will be out back, throwing up against the wall and trying to renew my season ticket for Borussia Dortmund!

Steve Parker

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 10:42:57
Wud you agree with me on the need for more impact player for the bench ?

{Editor's Note: I don't really know what you mean by "impact player for the bench"}

a quality attack minded player who can come on an change the game, because at the minute there isn't any

{Editor's Note: How easy will it be to persuade a "quality attack minded player" to move to Liverpool just to sit on the bench? So no I don't agree.}

could this be joe cole's role in the side? remember his late winner against bolton after coming off the bench.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 10:43:24
Wud you agree with me on the need for more impact player for the bench?

What we really need is an impact player from the kick-off. I think that we would get a lot more victories if we could score early and then score again. At the moment we don't score until well in to a match and don't consolidate any lead. The truth is that Liverpool is far more likely to concede a goal after scoring than get another one. What we also need that we haven't had for a very long time is more goals from other players and we really need to perfect corners and free-kicks in front of goal. Against Wigan Aurelio and Maxi wasted really good chances Suarez was extremely unlucky and I think that he should take those free-kicks in the future.
Mal 21

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 10:51:20
Really hope joe cole has a good game tonight. .the king had good words to say of him in his interview. i know you aren't his biggest fan ed but i think he still has a very valuable role in the squad and hopefully if he can stay fit show us the player we know he can be.

redross

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 10:56:38
{ed's note - we only need 3 or 4 players in my opinion. A left back, a winger for each side and another striker. Get rid of Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Cole, Poulsen, Konchesky, Jones, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos, Skrtel, Degen, Insua, Aqualani and let Ince go if he can't tame his greed. Ince is not going to be worth keeping anyway, Sterling is twice the player.}


Sorry Ed, got to disagree with you here. Getting rid of Skrtel and Kyrgiakos without a replacement? Leaving us with Agger, Wilson, Carra and Kelly, one of which will be 34 next season and two are young and, whilst showing great potential, aren't ready to step into the position full time just yet! Which leaves us with Agger who has shown he is susceptible to injury. If Kenny plays 3 Centre Backs like he has done this season we'd have 1 as back up 0 if one got an injury and be forced to play 4-4-2 if two had injuries. I'd keep at least Kyrgiakos to play against the like of Stoke or Blackburn where we need a bruiser in defence to be the pillar at the back or offload both the Greek and Skrtel but buy one in like Kjaer.

If we're going to sell Jones who would we be left with if Reina was injured or, god forbid, sold? If we sell Jones we have to buy a new keeper. If we get rid of Cole, Spearing, Aquilani and Jovanovic (I don't disagree with you by the way) we're left with Gerrard, Maxi, Meireles, Aurelio and Lucas as first team midfielders and Jonjo as youth. Gerrard is becoming old and injury prone (still great when not injured) Maxi and Aurelio and Lucas to a certain extent (good squad player but I don't think he's good enough to win the title with) aren't good enough and should be sold and Jonjo is still young. So that leaves us with Merieles so we definitely need to buy a CM or DM similar to Essien or Alonso but young.

So you can add a CB, GK and CDM to your 2xWingers, LB and CF.

Just my thoughts

NorthWestBest

{Editor's Note: A different Ed - you are forgetting Ayala as a centre back. It is hard to see seven first team players being replaced in the summer.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 10:38:32
Wud you agree with me on the need for more impact player for the bench ?

{Editor's Note: I don't really know what you mean by "impact player for the bench"}

a quality attack minded player who can come on an change the game, because at the minute there isn't any

{Editor's Note: How easy will it be to persuade a "quality attack minded player" to move to Liverpool just to sit on the bench? So no I don't agree.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 10:16:25
An then sell off the likes of poulson, ngog, jova, maxi etc an buy some quality squad players, i also think we need an impact sub who can come on an change a game, like hernandez for united, an old school fairclough wud be nice

what do ya think ed ?

{Editor's Note: Liverpool know what they need to do if they wish to obtain the player's services. There have already been talks betwenn Juventis and Lyon over Bastos and a offer from Juventus refused. Juve need to decide to either up their bid or to persuade Taiwo not to wait on an opportunity at Benfica to arise. Bastos has always said that he wants to move to Barcelona but I don't know of any interest from them. The rejected bid was for 14.4M according to my information. So the chance is there for the club, should they wish to press. It was thought that 16M-18M would be enough for Lyon to sell, but I fear they would up the price a little for an English club.}

wud you agree with me on the need for more impact player for the bench ?

{Editor's Note: I don't really know what you mean by "impact player for the bench"}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 10:00:49
Hey ed are you sure that Aquilani won't come back us? His agent says on the liverpool website that it's juventus or he comes back. .

LFC Tim

P.S. It's a great site, I check it everyday. Keep it up.

{Editor's Note: When you say "on the Liverpool web site" you do realise that is just some newspaper or press article that has been published? Aquilani wants to stay at Juve and they want to buy the player as cheaply as possible. I am told that Liverpool may accept a lower fee if Juve pay his wages in full for the rest of the season. I am also told that Liverpool have said to his agent that he can freely look for another club for the player if Juve decide not to proceed with the purchase.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 08:47:21
LFCTV don't show matches involving under 16's or younger age groups to protect these players from unrealistic expectations. You can't even find details on the official website.
It must be difficult enough to keep Sterling and Suso level headed with all the hype flying about so it would be even harder to keep a 14 or 15 year old prodigys feet on the ground.
There are rumours that our under 16's are going to be even better than the under 18's though. They beat Stoke 10-1 on saturday.
Remember the initials JD

Harry J

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 06:38:34
Morning Eds, hope your well.

Transfers: rumoured to be interested in Taiwo, Adams, M'Vila and the Celtic left back.

Not heard of any Baines rumours except in here, if we could get him I would jump at the chance! Have we all seen his crossing from the left? Image those crosses meeting the head of Carroll?

M'Vila would be another quality addition and he is young.

Do you think that IF we got Young he would improve as a player? If so would he improve enough to be a good addition? I am in two minds on him, but he is a winger on both sides - something we have lacked for a long time!

Input from Eds and LFC fans welcome please.

Bazzaa

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 06:39:14
Morning ED's

I see what have been linked with Bastos.I know he is around 27 / 28 yrs of age.
A) do you think that there is real interest in him?
B) Would his age be an issue as NESV have a tendency to want to buy young up and coming players that will have a good re sale value?
c) Would we be better off looking at Concentrau, Santon, Taiwo?

Your thoughts ED's

We have also been linked with Mvilla (Top addition if we manage to get him)

REDFORLIFE

{Editor's Note: Bastos may be an option - and I don't suppose that NESV are hard and fast over age related matters, but he is not an out and out left back. Coentrao and Santon are very unlikely. Taiwo will also probably be heading elsewhere.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 06:42:28
Ed, you think Clint dempsey is still on our sights? I think he would be a fantastic signing for about 6-8m? (although he is 28 y.o.) what you think ed?

{Editor's Note: I am not sure he has ever been a target.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 07:12:33
Hi ed! great job on the site! anyway, for cm/ dm i would love to sign (charlie adam, balise matuidi, armin Bacinovic) just one of them though. Ed, how much do you think they would cost? and the how likely will we be able to get them?

{Editor's Note: I do'nt want to speculate on cost too much but approaching £10M seems to be the going rate. As for the chance of getting them: high, medium and low.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 07:23:24
Etienne Capoue! is he any good for us ed?

{Editor's Note: I know he plays for Toulouse but I can't recall anything more than that about him.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 03:51:06
Lucky you mate!
Wish i could too, but the wife would skin me!
If i ever win the Euro millions i'll give £50m to LFC to buy Aguero & the rest i'd use to live off while i talk fottball all day on these sort of websites! If ya play your cards right ed's i may give you a couple of million to be at my service for any inside questions i need answering quick sharp lol! Oh if only - wishful thinking lol!
Goodnight ed's & all.
Cheers,
Irish Kev. {ed's note - good luck with the lotto!}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 03:01:54
Oh well enjoy the B-ball :)
Ya know i was gonna suggest it was something to do with weirdos but i didn't want to actually think it & disgust myself with just the thoughts of them! What a world we live in eh?! That'd make sense absolutely & probably to protect them a little from normal folk too i suppose in case they get hassle too young & can't cope with adulation & fans expecting miracles from them! I feel a little for Sterling right now - weight of the world & all that! The whole celebrity thing with footballers is something i'd never have survived with if i had made it - no freedom! They deserve their high salaries for that in my view! Can't scratch your a$$ these days if you're a footballer! Thanks for the answers ed's & sorry for long post (again)!
Enjoy that NBA rubbish :)
Cheers,
Irish Kev. {ed's note - I don't really enjoy the NBA etc, but it pays for me to sit on the comp and talk footie all day, so it is not all bad!}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 02:36:46
Thats good to hear! Last question i swear :)
Even though i reckon you may not know the answer yourself - yes even you may not have an answer here :)
Ok, here goes: Why does LFC tv & the official website only show highlights & goals etc from u18 up? I'd watch u16, u14 & u12 LFC matches all day long for ya! Sometimes they're more exciting than the 1st team (sorry 1st team players)! Thanks ed's & you are super fast with the editing tonight by the way?! Slow night? :)
Cheers,
Irish Kev. {ed's note - actually I am on the ball because it is busy with the NBA site so I am not distracted by other things. I have no idea why they don't show matches with the younger kids, it could be that they feel no one would want to watch. But I think it is probably some sort of child protection thing, in case of pervs possibly?}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 02:23:09
Suso? Interesting! I think he is good myself but feel he's gonna join the Barca brigade in a few years! I don't have much faith in foreigners anymore - little understanding of loyalty! Maybe i'm wrong & he'll show respect like Fabregas (not requesting a transfer like a baby) but just have a feeling he'll leave us down if he makes it big! But Mystic Meg i am NOT! ! Have we any more top local talent filtering through at u16 level ed's do you know? Only get to see the u18s here! There seems to be 5 or 6 of the u18s that could possibly make it - god willing! Have to thank Rafa's vision for that!
Cheers,
Irish Kev. {ed's note - there are supposed to be some top talents in there, though I have not seen any of the U16 or below level recently to check them out for myself.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 02:03:08
Good morning all & ed's,
With there being so much hype over our youth players at the moment (thanks Rafa) i'd like to ask who is or was the best youth player you've seen so far? Fowler? Owen? Or maybe from the current crop? It'd be Fowler for me as i remember seeing him play for England u 18s i think & they won the Euros! He was different class! Anyone got any opinions on who excited them the most? Ed's, any opinions yourself mate?
Cheers,
Irish Kev. {ed's note - Fowler, though Suso is the closest thing I have seen since.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 01:24:25
To you Jay Mc and posted this,

Gents, after hearing a few baines rumours this morning there seems to be an influx of simon kjaer rumours now. Solid centre back i agree but after getting put straight by the ed today we have probably got better lads already on the books(coady/ wilson) not too sure on ayala tho ed! if baines does come in i don't think we will sign a CB as wilson will push carra n agger for a start. Lets hope he gets another chance tomorow.

Jay Mc

If you ever have time watch the youth team and watch Coady, he To Me is the next Gerrard his movement, striking the ball and passing is very similar and yes he plays centre mid

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 01:13:44
Didn't Aguero say he was a liverpool fan, or had great respect for liverpool. if althico fail to make Champions league (which looks very likely) do you think we could get him. i know it would cost about 40 million but you could sell Johnson and Aqua combined for 20 million without really weakening the team, Johnson might be missed but i think he's very overrated and can't defend. Young Kelly can play his role far better IMO. i believe we could afford him, but i believe we'll look at cheaped options, like we've been doing for the past few years. {ed's note - Aguero is almost certain to leave in the summer, Atletico need the money badly, Forlan won't fetch enough any more. He does support Liverpool, but he would have to take a pay cut to come.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 01:03:17
Suarez wearing the number 3 on his training gear today, i thought he was our number 7

He's just following the same path as the King who also wore the no.3 on his training gear when he first joined Liverpool.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 00:59:30
Image a front 3 of

- - - - Carroll- - - -
Aguero- - - Suarez- -

I'd doubt we can afford Aguero :(

Lavezzi IMO is just as good. Very strong, tricky skills and has an eye for a goal. Doesn't offer width but is a very talented player.

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 00:52:06
Who would you like as wingers?
who would you like as a striker? ?
who would you like as left back? ?

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I'd love

Edin Hazard & Marko Marin
Conor Wickham
Fabio Coentrao

2nd Choices

Arda Turan & Ashley Young
Romelu Lukaku
Jose Enrique


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Who would you like as Central Midfielder?
Who would you like as Center Back?

I'd like

Charlie Adam
Gary Cahill {ed's note - CM = Javi Martinez, CB = no one, I would rather give Wilson, Kelly or Ayala a chance.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 00:34:52
Thanks ed.
But how likely if willing to come and all other factors taken into consideration do you thinkaguero would come to us with maxi his best mate being here?? ?

Im just concerned we don't have a out and out 20 to 25 goal a season player yet, or not quite ready to be anyway, what do you think? i would go and buy wickham like you mention, but i do thinkl he will spend BIG for the positons we need sorting, but i agree if they are the right player for us and available

Please reply to all questions in post thanks ed. . {ed's note - I don't think Aguero is likely to join us, I think he is more likely to join Real Madrid, they will outbid us and Atletico need the money. But I think he would prefer to join us out of the two. Both Suarez and Carroll are goalscorers, I don't think we have too much to worry about there.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 00:35:12
No liverpool link on homepage anymore ed?. JG {ed's note - there should be links to all the club specific sites in a drop-down menu near the top of the page.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 00:37:07
{Wingers would be out of Sanchez, Turan, Mata and Vicente}

Our of those 4 wingers I only see 1 arriving. That's Turan, I would love us to go after Sanchez and Mata but how can we attract them here, teams like Barcelona, United, Chelsea, Inter Milan are all after these players who can offer champions league football.

Can we still attract top players even though we are out of the champions league. {ed's note - we can offer them regular first team football, the chance to play for a legend and the chance to become a legend at one of the biggest clubs in the world. Of course we can still attract some top players.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 00:18:24
Hi ed i agree with all you said but one thing i differ on is letting cole go i think he should be given one more year to try and prove fitness and we can judge on his pitch contributions and not his injuries lets hope he can stay quite injury free for a while and we might see the real joe cole ed what do you think ed? ?

Who would you like as wingers??
who would you like as a striker?? ?
who would you like as left back?? ?

i would have sanchez and ashley young/ turan/ honda but defo sanchez.

I would defo have aguero if could get him? ?

And either taye taiwo/ baines for me?? {ed's note - Cole is a waste of wages for me, he is not good enough in any position to make him worthwhile keeping. Wingers would be out of Sanchez, Turan, Mata and Vicente for me, Vicente to allow Sterling to take over the left wing in a couple of years. Striker I would take someone like Aguero for sure, but I think he might be a bit too expensive for a team rebuilding. I really don't know who to suggest up front, maybe Wickham could be a good back up. As for left back, Taiwo would not be good enough I think, he can't even keep Heinze out of the Marseille team. Baines is the most obvious, though Aly Cissokho would be the player I would like myself.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 00:18:42
Earlier on in the season we were playing crap under Woy and chelsea were flying. My 4 year old son came home from school and said that one of his friends had suggested he should support chelsea instead. Desperate times called for desparate measures, I put match of the day on and told him Wigan who were playing in blue were chelsea. When the 4th goal went in he turned to me and told me that chelsea were rubbish. Wigan, ahem chelsea lost 6 nil that day :-). i did not let him watch too much football over the next few weeks.Now under KK he is allowed to watch each match and is a fully commited member of our tribe. As he gets older i will explan to him our values and the fact that despite not being the richest club we have the richest history and a golden future under KK. Reality Red

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 00:10:46
{ed's note - I have faith that we have people in charge now who know better than we do.}

Well I wish I had the same faith as you mate, to me it looks like we're going after second rate wingers.

Well we haven't signed any wingers so I'll keep judgment on them. Can't pre-judge just because of media speculation.

Also wanted to ask the Ed on what he thought about the Andy Carroll transfer?

{Editor's Note: Surprised.}

 

 

 

 

24 Feb 2011 00:00:54
Posted on banter at 11 03 pm mate sorry for being awkward {ed's note - we only need 3 or 4 players in my opinion. A left back, a winger for each side and another striker. Get rid of Ngog, Spearing, Darby, Cole, Poulsen, Konchesky, Jones, Jovanovic, Kyrgiakos, Skrtel, Degen, Insua, Aqualani and let Ince go if he can't tame his greed. Ince is not going to be worth keeping anyway, Sterling is twice the player.}

 

 

 

 

23 Feb 2011 23:59:52
{ed's note - except that Arsenal will still have a porous defence, Chelsea will still have old men and Kenny will get the most possible out of Young.}

That's if Kenny gets the job lol. Anyway Chelsea will have a big revamp this summer so their squad will be a lot younger.

Arsenal does need a center back, I agree there.

We not only need a defender, we need squad players too.

I just don't see how we can compete if we don't go after similar quality players. Sure Young's decent but has played poorly last 18 months and can't get a regular run for England. Chelsea and United are going after Sanchez, a player who is on fire and I remember 1 of the ed's even say he's got the potential to become as good as Ronaldo. Arsenal are after Hazard, who's 19 and has the potential to become as good as he wants. {ed's note - I have faith that we have people in charge now who know better than we do.}

 

 

 

 

 
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