Liverpool Banter Archive September 23 2014

23 Sep 2014 22:46:35
Well that was. different.

Exhibition of penalties aside, I'd say the best way to sum at that match is with two numbers: 3 and 105.

3 is the number of minutes we needed to play quick one and two touch football down the sides of Boro's defence to find a breakthrough. Which is good.

105 is the number of minutes it took before we started playing one and two touch football down the sides of Boro's defence. Which is bad.

Sterling was our best player even accounting for his brain fade at the end, Lucas, Enrique and Lallana were also good. Rossiter and Williams both had solid debuts. Approach in terms of ball retention and a short passing game was correct, we just need to get the tempo back into it.

23 Sep 2014 22:42:12
Well at least liverpool scored 16 goals

We'll get 101 again yet!

23 Sep 2014 22:23:39
39 posts from Harry today! Is that a record? Does less is more mean anything?

Harry needs to get a bird! And I don't mean a Liver Bird Harry.

Brilliant mate; so boring seeing him comment on everything.

Maybe even more boring is his love in with Suarez still; didn't he say he was finished with him after Chiellini-gate?!

24 Sep 2014 06:49:22
Digger

My love affair with Suarez or Shakira has nothing to do with our poor performance till now.
there is no rule not to to love a player outside Liverpool.
I also like Ronaldo and Hazzard.
Suarez biting does not take away his absolute quality on the pitch.

You need to be more realistic mste.

I need to be more realistic?
Are you joking?!

You haven't got clue about football and just because you post 20 times a day and think you're our biggest fan, doesn't mean that you do.

You post comments on everything, acting like what you say are facts and we should accept it.

No chance; so tired of your posts that I visit much less nowadays and actually try to skip your incoherent ramblings mostly.

Obviously, that's not always possible (I am a mere mortal, after all).

Re: Suarez, I don't really want to go digging through you old posts (mostly because it would take the best part of this decade), but you defo said you wouldn't support Luis anymore.

Now, you just keep pining for him and act like he would single-handdly have us top of the league.

However, he would not have been able to play in any of our fixtures so far this season and he certainly wasn't the ONLY reason we done so well last year.

Maybe you should take a little of your own advice, open a dictionary, understand the definition of 'realistic' and then try to be it yourself?

Doubt it though!

23 Sep 2014 22:21:11
Tough patch this lads.

We've got to stick it out though. Keep supporting the team.

We seem to be playing really slow, we need to speed it up!

23 Sep 2014 22:02:50
BR I HOPE YOU'RE WATCHING THE GAME.

SUSO SCORED.

23 Sep 2014 21:56:58
Rodgers is really going to need a miracle to keep his job, if we don't get into the CL this year then he's gone. The players are showing no desire, I am disgusted with our recent performances!

23 Sep 2014 22:13:02
Seems we have betterd Spurs in buying poor.
I don't see us reaching anywhere near top 6.

Last season was a real surprise. Suarez in the form of his life.

This season its back to reality. The team needs time to click and this may come a bit late to qualify for champions league.

Doubt Rodgers will go unless something goes completely belly up.

23 Sep 2014 21:49:53
How many times should Markovic have pulled the trigger?

Jeeez

23 Sep 2014 21:52:01
On a lighter note, Its just 20 mill mate.
Things happens.

Suso deserves a chance. Go on mate.

He is really afraid of shooting, he's had numerous chances, it's really weird as so many players this season don't seem to take the shot when it's on.

Spent £20mill on markovic and why? Suso is a much better quicker and more intelligent player. Well done again Roy Rodgers

24 Sep 2014 08:22:59
Stry

Suso is a fine passer, But not quick. But seems we are now playing more pass and move game.

23 Sep 2014 21:38:09
Daniel Ayala was released from Liverpool of not making up to required standards.
He has been top class today and has kept Balletoli in his pocket till now.
Credit is where its due. Well done lad. That's the way to defend.

23 Sep 2014 23:18:47
He was also deemed not good enough by Norwich also .players move on and play well sometimes but with liverpool your expected to play well all the time.

24 Sep 2014 06:54:13
Tommy

You must be kidding.
We had 5 CB over past an year and half and conceded 60 goals in process.

Which standard are you talking about?

There is no shame in appreciating a young lad on his brilliant performance.

Ayala was top class yesterday mate.

24 Sep 2014 10:09:05
Harry your not getting the point liverpool had him a few years ago and he was deemed not good enough, he stepped down to Norwich still didn't make it.Now imo his position is a position that players may improve as they get older which could mean playing well in 1 off cup games the pressure of playing for Liverpool would be a different beast, plus I think we r playing bad enough at the moment even average teams r being made look better than they r, middlesboro had a couple of players that gave us a harder match than I expected I think their names were reach, friend and tomlin.I worry what bale, Ronaldo, Rodriguez will do to us we need to improve quickly.Y.N.W.A.

23 Sep 2014 21:13:12
This is way too pedestrian. The whole team were looking to stop the play and look around! We are dangerous when quick attacking football is played, yet we constantly look to break teams down every time (which we suck at). Just don't get it

What's more nobody is running: static players are marked easily

23 Sep 2014 20:20:02
On a positive note Sakho looks much better, Rossiter looks very capable, Toure is shouting orders and organising the defence and our tempo is much improved.

23 Sep 2014 20:46:37
Markovic is wasted on the right side, Today and against Villa. He plays more central much like Sterling.
I would like to know about the player from someone here.

23 Sep 2014 21:10:36
On another Note, They equalized and are certainly looking to score more.
TBH they deserved it.

Sakho ain't cuttin it i'm afraid!

One comment I would make, if it's handball for the free kick that led to the goal, it's handball by Ayala at the end. Very poor refereeing.

23 Sep 2014 19:56:27
Jordan Rossiter scores.

23 Sep 2014 19:14:42
It's being reported than Frank Lampard may extend his loan to City. Surelyquestions should be asked regarding the way they "acquired" Frank Lampard, is it a way of getting around the FFP restrictions placed on them ?

{Ed001's Note - it is nothing to do with that, he was meant to go out on loan to another ADUG owned team, in Melbourne City. Unfortunately the A League changed their rules and it made it impossible for Melbourne to afford him. The group had to find a way to use him, so Man City it was.}

23 Sep 2014 19:00:12
So Sterling starts against Boro ? That Villa rest seems even more stupid now

23 Sep 2014 19:39:37
We should have played two up front with Borini and Lambert with Lallana and Marko behind?

Not sure on this formation

23 Sep 2014 18:49:28
Line up for today:-

Mignolet, Manquillo, Toure, Sakho, Enrique, Lucas, Rossiter, Lallana, Sterling, Markovic, Lambert.

23 Sep 2014 18:01:19
Im hoping for a strong team tonight. Borini and Lambert up front. Toure and maybe Sakho with Enrique at left back. Coutinho and Markovich also. No point in having these players and not playing them in my opinion. Hopefully we win convincingly and try to get a bit of confidence around the team. I will let someone else fill in the gaps.

Strong team, Borini and Lambert up front? I've seen better in league 1.

23 Sep 2014 17:15:44
We have the go ahead to redevelop the main stand and the anfield road stand.
My question is will we be able to kop and the centenary stands in the future?
Its very difficult to get tickets, the last few seasons i went at least twice a season and paid 200 for a ticket.
For guys like me flying to the uk is cheap with ryan air, but tickets are the problem.
this 12000 increase will be sold out to season ticket holders, 12000 extra is for the locals on the waiting list.is just not enough for the foreigners i am afraid we will have the same problem.
Here in malta man u and liverpool are the main teams.
Malta

{Ed002's Note - It will just be 8.5k on the main stand for now (including hospitality)}

I imagine extra seats will make it easier for everyone who isn't a season ticket holder to get tickets.

23 Sep 2014 19:05:46
Mike

Don't think so Mate, There are 100's waiting for a Season ticket.

23 Sep 2014 19:40:49
The planning permission which has been granted is for a total of just under 14k extra seats which, as Ed002 has said, will be split into 2 phases, I would imagine from a financial and disruption point of view, with 8.3k first (Main Stand) and then the remainder to follow (Anny Road Stand).

The issue with any further development beyond the 58.8k capacity is the impact on the surrounding infrastructure. Even this increase to 58.8k was still subject to a vote on whether the increased capacity would cause too much disruption to the surrounding area (which went 5-1 in favour of allowing planning - nice score, eh Gooners?!)

I know we'd love a larger capacity, and even one to rival the mancs, but that would take a much, much, much larger investment, or a move to a completely new site.

At least these plans allow us to boost capacity by upto 33% over what we currently have.

Harry, more seats, more chances of getting a seat, not less.

23 Sep 2014 15:52:04
looking forward to tonight's game, would like to see some younger fringe players or some of the new signings have real good games. little confidence boost is all we need.

come on the reds!!

cheer up, a season is 38 games not 5!

Tonights game has disappointment written all over it. The crowd will be awful, no atmosphere & as soon as something goes wrong they'll be on the players back. If we don't score first & within 20 minutes I think we will lose.

23 Sep 2014 19:07:06
And they said I was the most pessimistic here.

23 Sep 2014 16:25:03
Hey i have said in the past that Stevie G needs to tell the boss himself that he needs a long period of rest before Brendan will believe that he is not superman anymore, he had a long year last year and the self blame he piled on himself for not winning the league and a poor world cup must have taken its toll in his head as well as his stamina.

He is at his best when fully motivated and back to his confident best not second guessing passing or hesitating to shoot when the opportunity arrives, then i promise there are not many better in world football at leading a team than him.

Brendan Rodgers is one of the best managers in the premier league, we will kick on from here i have no doubts just a case of getting the tactics and speed of play up to speed with the new guys. We are not the only team to have a shaky start check the top 4. YNWA

23 Sep 2014 14:42:33
Respected Ed's and Fellow Red,

With so many fans wanting SG dropped from the team.I would appreciate the opinion of the fans and especially ED'001 AND ED'002 on who should replace him in the current setup?

Also, when all members of squad are fit what would your first choice starting 11 be and what formation should be used?

Cheers and your views are appreciated.

{Ed001's Note - I would like to see Lambert come in up front, so we can play with two up top, until Sturridge is fit.}

Thanks ED'001

ED'002 waiting for your view on this topic as well.

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - I am not really one to get in to teams and the like, but after my transfer spending this summer and with Sturridge injured, I would play Pedro on the left with Huntelaar through the middle and Ojo on the right. I would play Coutinho and Henderson behind them with Lucas in the defensive role.

You should be able to see where Rodgers went wrong.}

Why lambert tho ed? i kinda feel like borini is a better fit with balo. of course its my opinion, would love to hear why u feel lambert is a better choice.

{Ed001's Note - because Lambert is more creative, and we need that extra outlet to take the pressure off Gerrard, as he is clearly not going to be dropped.}

From previous posts it seems that most see Can as the one to step in.
So on that basis, I think it's a blessing for the lad that he is currently injured. I don't mean that nastily, but more from the perspective that we could potentially ruin him by throwing him in and expecting too much too soon.
I previously stated that to expect a youngster with virtually no top level experience to replace SG is asking a lot. Notwithstanding that he has to adapt to a new team, new country/culture and a new style of play, people are expecting him to play in a position not completely natural to him having missed pre season!
I think you have to be really careful bringing youngsters into a struggling team when expectations are so high.
I say all this having never seen him play a competitive game! So I have no idea how good he is or can be.
My point is that I'd rather give the lad time to settle and play some minutes without having the pressure of knowing that the captain and legend SG is sat on the bench waiting to replace you. it's all just a bit too much expectation for me.
I really hope he is the player that many think he is. but I just wonder how much people have actually seen him play?
If anyone is going to replace SG then I'd like to see Lucas do the job. at least until we run into a bit of form. Personally, I don't see him being dropped, but unless your going to play a similar system to last year with quick counter attacks that compliment his strengths, I'd take him out of the firing line as he seems to have become the latest Johnson. Skertel. Allen. Borini. Lucas. Mignolet. Markovic. Lallana. Ballotelli. Scapegoat!

Respected ED'002,

Thanks for replying to my post.That line-up would have been really good.

{Ed002's Note - Would not be getting tired out taking penalties.}

23 Sep 2014 19:19:29
Pedro and Huntelaar? Deary me then we would be in trouble Ed.

23 Sep 2014 19:40:26
Ed002, That was one hell of a formation mate. You do like football ryt?

{Ed002's Note - Soccer?}

24 Sep 2014 09:36:26
Ed001, who would you replace Gerrard with in the team? Rossiter had a great game last night I thought, but he's obviously a couple of years away from being ready.

Sirshanks

To say Can lacks experience at the top level astounds me, previous to the ludogorets game, he is one of a few players we have that has CL experience, Also he played regularly for Leverkusen in the bundesliga

23 Sep 2014 14:03:04
I think we are all really quick to get the axe out on BR. Surely the last few games have been dissapointing coming in from a great last season, and surely we all think BR has made mistakes in these games; however don't forget last season first half we also lost to hull 3 - 1, now west ham 3 - 1 and southampton 0 -1 and now a. villa 0 -1.

What i'm saying is we aren't invincible. What we all praised BR last year was that he was quick to spot the problems during the games and wasnt afraid to make changes, which i might add won us a fair few points last season. It's only been 5 games so far and you guys want to sack him already. He just got the players he wanted in, give him the season to show what he can do ffs. Come on lads, let's support a bit more!

Tbh people are not wrong to be concerned with the way we are playing. the differences between this years gameplay and last years gameplay can be seen and it also shows that we are more suited towards playing at full strength in the opening mnutes, putting plenty of pressure and making sure that opponent teams are on the back foot. we are not as good as BR's swansea team at holding the ball. we have pace, use them make sure opponents defend deep, that is when we beat opponents, I can say that offensively we have a very good team, with hardworking players that can put an enormous amounts of prssure on our opponent. but restricting our midfielders takes away that and allows our opponents to put pressure on u instead, even up against weaker opponents.

The best people in any sport/industry are the people who learn from their mistakes, and BR has made mistakes this season, it is fine IF he learns from it. No matter how good you are, you will always make mistakes. It is the constant repeating of the same mistakes that worry me. No team is perfect, but use the abilities of our teams to cover our weaknesses, as we did last season.

Nobody wants him sacked "now", if you read the posts the majority are commenting that if the club continues in this vein throughout the season then he should go

Who said anything about wanting BR sacked now? If we do not finish in the UCL places come end of the season, then Mr Henry should sack him irrespective of the team's performances in the other competitions (unless we win the UCL which is highly unlikely). He has had enough financial support to get the team competing on all levels, if he cannot match the owner's expectation then i fear the worst for him.

23 Sep 2014 16:15:29
JLPred

Spot on. I haven't seen a single line on Rodgers to be sacked.

Would agree, JLPred. I don't see anyone calling for BR to be sacked tomorrow, it's simply hypothetically if things continue as they have (which even the most optimistic would have to say it's been not very good) then what might happen end of the season.

Reality is all managers of the bigger clubs will have targets on their backs. I can near guarantee that if City aren't in the top 4, even though they won the title last year, Pellegrini will have a pretty big task in keeping his job. Same is true for BR- if we fall well outside top 4, questions will be asked. You don't get to spend gobs of money and then get to make excuses.

23 Sep 2014 16:17:52
Indian

Forget it and move on mate. People never read the post.
If He doesn't achieve his target, Like every employer FSG would be taking an appropriate decision on the Manager.

23 Sep 2014 18:37:15
Oh great, so let's say we finish 5th/6th this season, we sack BR. then what?! Another young, promising coach comes in, another year of transition, another year probably losing our best star ( wildly guessing sturridge or sterling ), and back to the drawing board. its a never ending cycle. nothing good ever came to liverpool by changing coaches every 2-3 years.
I thought we were in this through thick and thin.

What is with all the negative comments about Brendan, Stevie , and the owners. Firstly Brendan he has bought players he wants at the club it will take a few games to gel were missing players who can change games so if we don't achieve what we did last season then we just have to be patient none of this sacking rubbish this is a long term job Brendan is doing . now Stevie he is the most experienced player we have he needs to be on the pitch to help the new boys and he has carried our team for years it is about time for some one else to stand up and take his mantel . and now the owners what are you people smoking to coin a saying the owners are the best thing to happen to LFC great young manager money for players stadium extension sponsorship money coming in what else can they do ? get a grip guys your reds act like real reds

23 Sep 2014 13:32:22
So Rodgers has mentioned Stevie again but saying he's about undroppable, oh and his stats stack up. , what a surprise

23 Sep 2014 14:17:37
So We never went for a DM, Another Midfielder would drop Gerrard.

It sad to see Can out injured, we could do with another option tbh.

23 Sep 2014 12:54:59
A lot of people mentioning De Boer. IF results don't improve and Rodgers is shifted, he is without question my first choice for the job. I'd say the likes of Klopp, Simeone, Biesla etc are all close behind in my estimations, but De Boer has the potential to be a special coach. He get's kids playing absolutely world class football. Even in Europe they turn up and put up bloody good fights against teams operating on literally up to 50x their budget.

I believe it's 3 back to back titles as well? Beating off the likes of PSV, Twente, Feynoord, Chelsea B (oh sorry, Vitesse Arnham) season after season cannot go underestimated.

Of course though, I hope Rodgers puts down his dolly bird and sorts himself out though. He has definitely lost an edge over the last 18 months. It is having a really detrimental affect on the team and certain individuals (Coutinho in particular).

The coaching team needs a major reshuffle if you ask me. Achterberg needs to go, and I'd drive to Spain and fetch Xavi Valero if i have to. We also need somebody to come in and sort out the defence. I wonder what Alan Hansen is up to nowadays? Haha. But in all seriousness, we need to sure up at the back. Rodgers, if resuts don't improve dramatically also needs to go. I think he is a potentially great manager. However, just like player you need to work at your talents and have the right attitude. His arrogance his clear for all to see though in his tactical decisions. He has not earned the right to fiddle with the team just yet. Stick to what your good at.

23 Sep 2014 13:27:00
Deboer is a fantastic Coach, But I would give this young hungry squad to Simeoni or Klopp.
We need an aggressive and energetic coach, Who doesn't get bullied by media or opposition. A proven Man who loves to work with young talents.

Both Klopp and Simeoni are excellent candidates and have been successful witgh their club at the very modest budget.

Watching Dortumand against a complete Arsenal squad. They outclassed Arsenal in each and every department.

EMS, I always agree and enjoy reading your posts however, I don`t agree here. BR is having a dip in confidence and the fact that you are even mentioning other coaches to take his place is disappointing to me. Give him a chance to ride the ship nd make it right. This is the first real piece of adversity he has faced and is not being helped w/ injuries to key players (Allen, Studge, Balo and Lallana not 100% and Cout is out of form). When Rafa was struggling, we stuck w/ him. Let`s stick w/ BR now.

I do agree w/ you that the GK coach or Migs needs to go if either don`t improve.

23 Sep 2014 13:41:50
Bad form, EMS, mate.

Agree with Redohio and Waro above. We need to back BR, however frustrating our current performances are.

Even the chosen one got the majority of the season, and he hadn't led an unfancied team to second the previous season!!

23 Sep 2014 14:15:16
Wow, 5 games in and we are discussing Rodgers replacement. Wasn't so long ago people were posting about their first memories of LFC and how happy and wonderful things were. Yes, we haven't been playing up to the same standard as last season but we have several new players and no Suarez. And for those saying 'great players need time to adapt', I believe Suarez took a good season or two to get going. Judge the team at Christmas and stop jumping the gun.

Lets give him a full season first, or atleast half a season. Remember where we were when we lost to City AND Chelsea last season? Look let's give BR a chance and maybe he could actually realize what our weaknesses are. I don't see the point in changing Managers too often. We need the team to settle. Changing Managers does not guarantee success. Maybe he needs help, but certainly the transfer committee isn't helping, he needs help in terms of defending, or gk coaching.

Harry, it would be next ti impossible to entice either Klopp or Simeone to LFC especially if the club does not have UCL footie next season. At the moment, going from BVB or Atletico to LFC is a step backwards and both would probably see it that way. De Boer is the best option available that i can think of and would jump at the chance to manage the club. He is also one of the few managers who has made it pretty clear that Real or Barca do not appeal to him because of their tendency to buy superstars every season, while he believes in promoting youth. De Boer and LFC are a match made in heaven imo.

Why are you even having this conversation EMS? Show some class pal.

Same to all of you that even entertained agreeing to this post.

Take a tip from someone who has followed Liverpool a very long time. This is not the Liverpool way!

23 Sep 2014 12:11:53
Respected Ed'002,

Thanks for the reply.

After reading your views.I have one question about the owners, to which I hope you can shed some light upon.

Are the owners really dedicated to Liverpool for the long-term or they will sell the club if they get a great return on their investment?

If they're in it for the long haul, Do you think they have what it takes to turn Liverpool into a major force?

As usual your reply is always appreciated.

Cheers

23 Sep 2014 12:28:50
If they have no interest with the club, Y would they throw the money into the club?
TBH, They have yet not tasted a penny of profit from the club.

Thanks for sharing your view Boom.

23 Sep 2014 12:38:17
They will not make a "great return" on the club until we are performing well on the pitch and winning trophies.

23 Sep 2014 12:44:28
LFC_1234

You Welcome buddy. Could you Imagine If it was Levy?. No signing at all.

23 Sep 2014 12:46:07
Not many football club owners make profit out of the club Boom. The profit will come when they want to sell the club, pretty certain they 'll get double what they paid for it.
Not saying this is what they want to do, but in general football clubs are long term investment and money is only made when its time to sell -- providing you ran the club properly and turned it into something bigger than it was when you first bought it . ala Chelsea or United as 2 examples

{Ed002's Note - If the owners sold the club now they would be losing money - they certainly would not get double what they have invested.}

If the club does well they will sell it at a much higher price. had alan sugar on last week and he suggested spurs were up for sale around the 1 billion mark and that's before the new ground is built. i know spurs are in london but it does look like fsg got liverpool at a good price even though they have since ploughed cash in week to week and on transfers etc etc. i think fsg got a good deal and we have done good under them too but if the right money came in they would sell and good luck to them

{Ed002's Note - No.}

Completely agree with you TCotton.

As stated by the EDs, that the club are losing money weekly and the added spending this window a title challenge and a good UCL showing is necessary, but judging by the way things have unfolded a title challenge is not possible this season and a good showing UCL is not a surety.Also if we fail to make the top -4 the financial implications would be severe.

So if under such a circumstance a bid is made to acquire the club and the money offered is more than the money FSG has invested, would the owners cash in and leave or will they stay?

Cheers and thanks for sharing your view.

{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer a "whatif" question like that, but they remain determined to make it work.}

Sorry for the "whatif" question ED'002.
Thanks for the information.

Always appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - More than pleased to help.}

23 Sep 2014 13:56:34
{Ed002's Note - If the owners sold the club now they would be losing money - they certainly would not get double what they have invested.}
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I did n't mean now Ed, if on the pitch we sustain CL qualification and the commercial team carry on their good work, I am sure they can increase the value of the club by huge percentage (I know lots of ifs) but the way I see it, club owners look for a return when they ready to sell. Question for you, --for my education and knowledge; not an argument -- is there a club in Europe that make decent annual profit . I mean sustainable profit ?

{Ed002's Note - There are plenty - Manchester United and Arsenal might well be the two highest financial fliers in the UK. The income from the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid and many of the German sides is very good as well.}

23 Sep 2014 11:35:18
There seems to be talk that Rossiter will get a game tonight. I hope this is the case and I would love to see him get a game.

Eds 001 & 002, the views you have given over the clubs summer transfers have been spot on in my opinion. Ino it is still early for all of them, but right now I am disappointed we didn't choose to use more of our promising and talented youth players we already had, as opposed to bringing in more players from other clubs. You could argue a lot of them aren't quite ready yet, but they could surely at least do good jobs as squad players. I'd of liked to have seen us spend our money where we didn't have the youth players coming through and buy slightly older more proven players in these positions, allowing our young players to cover the other areas of the squad. Players like teixeira and ibe are showing great promise and talent in the championship right now and could certainly have contributed as much as our new signings have so far. It is however early days and I'll always support the team and our players. I think I get more excited to watch a player who has come through our academy and made the step up than a player we have just bought from another club!

Cheers

{Ed002's Note - You are right in most respects JGS. There is a need for balance and we all know that many youngsters will not quite make the grade at the top-level and will move on. There need to be players coming in at a managed level - if nothing to avoid the "T" word. Brendan Rodgers is going out of his way to avoid saying "transition" but is digging a hole with the use of words like "gel", "it takes time", "lack of intensity", "work in progress" etc.. He has a little time right now to make it work, but the pressure is on and the fans are beginning to get a little restless.

Checking the sales at our online store - where you can by effigies of Liverpool owners, management, players and prospective players - shows up market sales are up. The very high-end voodoo dolls with a set of silver-plated pins thrown in for good measure are flying off the shelves. The old Brendan doll with the humongous ass has now been replaced by our Veliki Nos model - our best seller.}

23 Sep 2014 13:55:10
brilliant response as expected Ed002

23 Sep 2014 18:57:20
Isn't Veliki Nos a serbian prog group?

23 Sep 2014 11:13:12
boom thanks for your views on my post. i do accept we got a good deal for him. as i said in my previous post, sancez wouldve been an excellent replacement and as you point out we had months to find the right replacement but we failed. moreno, he looks excellent, a bit of coaching in posistioning and hell be fine. again i agree with you over alonso, not sure if there's any info over him wanting to come back? alternatives to alonso? goalkeepers? mignolet is a great liner, shotstopper, but after that we are struggling!! who do we go for? valdes? not sure he's the answer, as i said i rate balotelli but if we are to contiue with last seasons fantastic football he isn't right for that. i must admit i'm puzzled as to what br is going to do!! i'm going to the match tonight, just hope its better than the av game and i haven't got a upset 9yr old again!! come on redmen.

23 Sep 2014 12:43:24
You welcome Buddy

I would point out the system and style we play more than the players. There is potential in our team and we have a very huge squad TBH.

What was the need of reverting from an absolute winning formation to something which was tried earlier last season and failed?

At Home, You should score goals. There is no excuse for it.

We were exciting to watch last season, Everyone including the Mancs wanted us to win the title, courtsey our sincilating attacking display.
Now look at us. We looked like West Ham and West ham played like Liverpool.

Buying Valdes would be a bad move, We should wait till Jan and get a top class Keeper.

Boom completly agrre, why change things? if it ain't broke don't fix it!!!

23 Sep 2014 09:21:39
There's some decisions to be made by Brendan especially after the defeat to Aston Villa and westham. The fact is not about several players including the club captain have bad moments or poor run of form. The truth is that the formation used must be maintained and the pressure on the players to deliver at the highest level is weighing them down. Such pressure should be taken off them, and they are to play according to their strength and as a team as we did last season. But we still need atleast a creative midfielder and an attacking midfielder to complete the route.

23 Sep 2014 08:21:24
Fellow reds,

I have to say I'm a little disappointed how quick people are to turn on Brendan and our summer signings. I share your disappointment or perhaps even dis pair at our start but it doesn't make him a bad manager overnight. I've seen the words clueless banded about, mediocre in respect to lovren and sakho.

The start has been every bad but we are only a few points behind city and the only team who have really got going are Chelsea, we are far from out of top 4 contention just yet. I realised today that bayern only have 8 points from there first 4 games and Madrid only 6.

Getting on the teams back only ramps up the pressure. Everyone is entitled to their opinion just don't keep changing it every week

23 Sep 2014 08:43:48
I agree with you that fans are very fickle but BR has shown to be very naïve this season thus far. I am not one of the fans that think he is a bad manager due to this, however, I am wary that if he does not turn it around and show that he's learning from his mistakes that does show a significant weakness. I back him to turn it around, at least, I hope he does.

23 Sep 2014 09:17:16
I think once we see the likes of Sturridge and Allen back plus with Lallana just coming to fitness we will soon climb the league. Two home league games if we get six points things will feel better.

Spot on. Post of the day. The level of togetherness displayed by some fans here is zero. After the wonderful season we had Brendan has earnt my full respect and admiration.

I have been shocked and deeply saddened by the reaction here.

I always thought liverpool fans had more about them. I was wrong

I agree with OP most parts but still am not convinced about Sakho

Love BR think he is a top manager, but that said, i'm no coach, but we lost the league last season bcoz of him playing Gerard. 1stly out of his natural position and secondly playing him too much. I don't want to be last place no more. If BR must go let hium but we have to start winning stuff. Bench Gerrard or Sack BR, one of the two must happen. I love Gerard but we are loosing the title race bcoz of Him. Our mid has a spark without him. And don't tell me about Hollywood passes. Our team can slice open any defends with speed and precision passes which we never have when Gerard is on the field. DS, Balotelli etc, these are just get out jail free cards. the fact is just bench Gerard or get us a manager who will. its not that hard. let the kids win for him. He can come and rescue us once in a while but right now he is costing us. YWNA even to Gerard.

This just might be the worst post I've ever seen on so many levels.

And that's saying something.

22 Sep 2014 21:16:20
Respected Eds,

I read somebody say that FSG are looking to replace him with Klopp which is really harsh on BR after all what he has done for our great club.


I would like to know your views on BR?

Do you see him as our manager for the next 5-6 seasons?

I ask this questions because I read that he wants to manage Barcelona or Real Madrid one day.

I really would like to know that if and when one of these clubs come calling will he resist the temptation to leave or stay with us?

Your reply is much appreciated.

{Ed001's Note - as it stands right now, I can't see him as our manager next season, let alone 5-6 seasons' time. Not all his fault, I agree, but the transfer policy since he arrived has been embarrassingly poor. The constant silly statements to the media, talking about looking 5 games ahead, when he clearly can't manage one ahead at the moment, are not helping his cause. Plus he is not learning from his mistakes, he is instead compounding them and making bigger ones. I really do hope he stays for 10 or more years, because that will mean he has been successful, but he needs to stop trying to be clever. When only two players in your team are playing consistently well, you don't rest one the moment you lose the other to injury, especially after just a handful of games! Rest players when they start to seem tired, not just in case they might happen to get tired later. Let's just get points on the board first, then we can worry about resting tired legs.

Also, and I am not trying to preach, we all make mistakes, but you are managing a huge club Brendan, you shouldn't have time to be messing about in your private life, you should be hard pressed to find the time to run the club. If you have time to start messing about with affairs, then quite clearly you are not devoting the time to the job it requires. You should be living and breathing this job, if not, well then you are not doing it right. When you are not on the training ground with our players, you should be busy watching over footage of our previous games to look for where you went wrong, and devising ways to fix the issues. When you are not doing that you should be watching footage or going to games to watch potential targets. There should be no time for a social life in this job.

Prove me wrong please Mr Rodgers, but right now, I just can't see you having a long term future with us, I just don't see you having the dedication or desire that the job requires.}

23 Sep 2014 06:09:12
The way he has managed our best player of last season Henderson makes him the clueless man ever.

{Ed001's Note - that's going a bit far.}

I think resting Raheem told me a lot about Brendan. We all know he wants to go and manage in Spain. We also know they have doubts over his lack of CL experience. That's why, to me, he's prioritising the CL over the premier league.
I agree with Ed001, if he doesn't turn it around, he'll be fired next summer.

Harry is a hyperbole machine. Clueless manager ever? Get a grip lad, it is embarrassing to read these sort of statements, which have been aplenty from you.

I agree on Ed001. The social and personal life part of BR is really non of my business, but if he is not doing his job properly as Ed001 says, then he needs to get things in order.

23 Sep 2014 07:28:02
Henderson was our soul of high pressing game last season, It all started from him and then releasing it quickly.
BR saw a differnt Henderson for England side and thought the same to restrict him at Liverpool.

I pretty much call this clueless.

23 Sep 2014 07:29:01
The Real AG

I read ond of your statement about BR being a double standards with Agger?.

Not Embarassing aah?

Ed001, say if he is to get a sack do you see either of Ancelotti , Bielsa, Eddie Howe or Rafa as our next manager?

{Ed001's Note - certainly not Rafa! Far too early to tell who would replace him.}

23 Sep 2014 08:08:06
Bit harsh to jump on Harry's back so much there guys. Yes he has gone over the top with his choice of words but he is right that BR has managed Henderson badly this year. He was arguably our most influential player last year but seems to be shackled by the new system, to me, that is bad management on BR's hand.

Wow Ed001 that is probably your longest post ever. I think whoever made the comment here about FSG looking for Klopp to replace BR were joking. However the suggstion that BR can manage Barcelona or Real Madrid one day is also a joke for me at the moment. Even after last season he was very far from it. To manage those you need to win trophies especially if coming from out of Spain and as good as last season was, the way we lost to chelsea in that decisive match which was a clear defeat to Morinhou's prior tactics, would be enough to make BR unattractive to manage the biggest teams in Europe. In any case, the way this season start already ruined a lot of his reputation and believe me, the last thing on his mind now is Barcelan and Madrid, he just want to finish this season in Liverpool. And I really wouldn't like to be BR if we lose the match on Saturday (or even now for that matter). Ken mentioned resting Raheem, well that was a bizzar decision but this is the kind of mistake managers sometime make (he probably thought like a lot of us that AV at home will be easy enough even without him). For me, the worrying thing is him not esting Gerrad. There are people here, like me, who think Gerrad should be dropped, others who think he should play in a different role and maybe others who think he should play the same role, but I don't think there is anyone here who think he should play, in his age, three 90 minutes games a week, especailly given his contribution so far. And resting Raheem shows BR believe players should get some rest. So it almost feels as if he doesn't have the courage to rest Gerrad for whatever reason even though he probably know he should rest. And this wouldn't happen to Morrinhou or Ferguson (they would both also ignore the Glen Johnson clause if exists). This is what worries me. But his affairs are not relevant (and this is from last year anyway no? or are there any new stories). I looked the other day for the odds of BR being the next manager to be sacked and he was bottom of the table 1:67 odds. I thought this can be worth a tener or two. We are still not there but losing on Saturday and these odds will drop massivley. let's hope he does turns things around somehow.

23 Sep 2014 09:33:21
Ed001,
i agree with you that BR made mistakes,but bringing in a top manager in the future will demand a large transfer kitty.
BR suits fsg for now,players like markovic moreno marquilo can will only get better.
He made only 1 mistake this window BR should have used lallana money for a top defensive midfielder.
Lallana is a good player but we options in position.
BR needs to make top 4 to keep his job in my opinion.
I have a feeling fsg can me ruthless if they need too.
Malta.

{Ed002's Note - Changing manager would not mean starting again with a "large transfer kitty". The club cannot afford it and FFP will not allow it.}

Would u want Frank De Boer if BR does get kicked out ed001? Ajax have done pretty well with the lack of resources at their disposal, and the guy does like promoting a lot of youth talent. Could be a perfect fit for LFC.

{Ed001's Note - not sure he is ready, but I would like someone like him who is willing to put his faith in young players.}

23 Sep 2014 13:54:05
Ed002
What i meant is that firing BR will cost money and if FSG would want a top manager the new guy wants funds.
The PL is tough, money is dominating the league, thank god we have sterling and maybe ibe next year.will safe ius a lot of money if some youngsters make it.man c and chelsea will always pay the money if they need a player.we need to be more creative.

Malta

{Ed002's Note - A new manager would not have a "large transfer kitty". The club cannot afford it and FFP will not allow it - unless of course the club want to take the Anzhi approach and not play European football?}

22 Sep 2014 21:13:32
I miss Daniel Agger.
That is all.

YNWA from Texas!

Yes good old buck Rodgers strikes again, sells a solid centre half and great footballer and is now left with 4 mediocre centre halfs, he would of been better giving ilori a chance. His transfer activity reminds me of houllier, no further forward

23 Sep 2014 08:11:55
Sorry can you find me 1 game in the past 2 seasons where Agger even played above average, never mind looked 'solid'?

27 Jan 2014 21:58:37
Hope this clears it up for you.

Premier League
With Agger Without Agger

Games 11. 11
Won. 8. 5
Drawn. 1. 3
Lost. 2. 3

Goals against. 9. 19
Avg.goals against. 0.8. 1.7
Win %. 73%. 46%

Is that all he played for lfc? How about games missed with injury and still paid 80k a week? Ridiculous stat.