Liverpool Banter Archive November 23 2010
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23 Nov 2010 23:46:44
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Who cares if benzema failed at madrid.so did robben, sneijder, van der vart etc.they have all moved on and been successful else were.it would be a sensational signing if we somehow got him.
23 Nov 2010 23:41:26
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I don't know I think the reason anfield quiet at the moment is because they don't want anyone to know who are they preparing to buy I am sure out of these four we will sign one benzema, aguero, gomez, suarez what do you think ed
23 Nov 2010 23:18:20
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Ed it does my head to see non scousers at Anfield watching games.
Every week I sit a few rows back from some old Scottish bloke called Kenny and can't help feeling why a born and bred scouser isn't sitting there.
Our American owners have got to lay the law down and stop these non scousers entering the ground.
We should sell Torres and all the other johnny foreigners and only play lads born within the city limits.
It does my head in we have a statue to that Scottish pillock Shankly outside the ground it should be one of a true scouser like Ken Dodd or summit.
We should lift the boycott on the S*n because at least that paper owned by an Austrialian born American citizen is consistent in fighting foreigners ruining this country.
I know you will agree Ed
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23 Nov 2010 23:10:47
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I reckon if Rafa had played Babel constantly like he did with Lucas, he would have come to form eventually. (Like Lucas)
Then again, it could have just gotten a lot worse.
23 Nov 2010 23:05:52
Rafa Benitez's transfer Net spend was around £10 million per season , £60 million total Net during his tenure , of course the prize money won during his 6 years as manager , balances the books equitably - Fact .
Perhaps Rafa Benitez was lucky to inherit a Liverpool Football Club that had been starved of major competition , The demands being placed on Roy Hodgson are greater than those Rafa Benitez was met with .
I maintain Roy Hodgson is capable of a better domestic season this year , than Rafa Benitez had in his first year , and better than Rafa Benitez had in his last year .
Roy Hodgson could still win the Europa League , the FA Cup and qualify for the Champions League .
We expect Roy Hodgson to get the job done overnight . We never asked that of Rafa Benitez .
1977
23 Nov 2010 23:02:41
Good bloody riddance to a man who left in the position we are in now
Looks like we will have to agree to disagree.
Benitez was an ego-free zone, always showed respect to opponents, had a self-effacing style which suited the club to a T
The fact remains that if Keane had scored just 2 more goals we would have won the league
But as I have said before, if your granny had balls she'd be your grandad. To exonerate H&G is a failed analysis, you discount that Liverpool paid around 126m just for the pleasure of having them about the pace, so any claim that 240m gross spend in 5, no 6 years is excessive must be viewed in the light of that. 6 years of H&G would have cost us about 252m, with not a player to show for it.
23 Nov 2010 22:45:35
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Benitez - yet again.
Common knowledge that his net spend was about 14/ 15 million pound per year.
But that is not the point - net spend means nothing - the fact is he spent £240 million in his time at Anfield - and a lot of the money he recouped where his mistakes ( normally at a loss, with a few exceptions ) and selling players already at the club when he arrived.
And please please don't give me the bull that he loves Liverpool - Benitez loves Benitez and his ego - every player who puts a LFC short on loves Liverpool - every employee loves Liverpool.
How could anyone managing our great club not love the adulation fans give them.
Benitez loved Liverpool so much he gladly accepted a £6 million pound pay off ( or something like ).
Good bloody riddance to a man who left in the position we are in now
23 Nov 2010 22:42:03
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23 Nov 2010 21:13:06Liverpool Rumours"always said babel would be the next henry"
to this guy
Sorry but I find it hard to believe any one can really think that.Surely you are just winding us up. If not you are a very poor judge of a footballer.
to be honest, babel was, at one point, one of the hottest prospects on the scene a couple of years back, with qualities not unlike henry's. hes lightening with the ball and can sometimes just breeze past defenders like henry, if he played as a striker, consistently. ian rush said once that a striker needs a run of about 6/ 7 games to achieve top form. something babel hasnt got the chance at with liverpool, which is what, i think, has made him lazy. he can't be bothered trying to get on in front of torres, its a losing battle. i say play him in a 442 with torres and see the lad shine. he would have a completely different attitude if he knew he was starting all the time. not to mention the threat we would become if he was to hit top form.
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23 Nov 2010 22:32:24
Raphael Benitez'z first season was phenomenal courtesy only of a few European games , then we had an FA Cup victory and a Champions League and Premier League runners-up position to show for 6 years and hundreds of millions in transfer outlay , leaving a squad in disarray .
We have to remember the greatness we enjoyed on occasion under Rafa Benitez , but we also have to be fair , some seasons were wasted and some tranfers were awful . He did lose his job with many years left on his contract , with all due respect , under the circumstances we all accepted the decision , quite readily , and now expect his successor to make major improvements on the last 6 years of effort .
With that I must say , thinking about some of Rafa Benitez's signings , is a moment well spent , when considering the transfer successes .
Pepe Reina , Fernando Torres , Daniel Agger , Xabi Alonso , Javier Mascherano , Dirk Kuyt and Alvaro Arbeloa , plus , the progress made by Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher .
It has to be a concern how the team failed to be more competitve and find greater consistency , during Rafa Benitez's full tenure .
1977
23 Nov 2010 22:24:36
Take a pop at me - no problem, it's an opinion of mine that Benitez brought us to where we are now, not H&G or anyone else.
Sorry mate, don't mean to have a pop at you, I just don't agree with your analysis. Look, the most important thing to remember about Benitez is the thrust of my original post. It was not the amount of money he had to spend, it was how he was allowed to spend it. Torres remains our most expensive player at 24m, but utd had exceeded that amount for Ferdinand, Rooney, and Veron years before. Now I agree that when you are going to spend 28m for a player there is a bigger chance that he will be a success than a failure, but Benitez was never allowed that amount of trust, the trust to spend the entire window kitty on one marquee player. so where ferguson was given 30 odd million to buy berba, benitez was given 30m and told it had to stretch to 2 or 3 players.
In real life terms, fergie could go and buy a brand new avensis, but rafa was told he could buy 2 2nd hand mondeos. All that remains to say is imagine how the media would have reacted had Benitez bought Veron, or Hargreaves. Do not buy into the media narrative about Benitez, scummers buy papers, and there's more of them than us.
Evans was not the greatest, but after Souness, he was a ray of light. Dalglish was no sage either iyam
23 Nov 2010 22:23:24
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"Seen it all - season ticket holder longer than most - Benitez is the biggest spender we've ever had - check how many players he bought and sold. No red tinted glasses, Souness was not good, Evans was not good, Moran shouldn't have taken the job.
Take a pop at me - no problem, it's an opinion of mine that Benitez brought us to where we are now, not H&G or anyone else."
You are entitled to your opinion , but I can tell you a fact that Rafa total net spend in the 5 years he was in charge is around the 15m . this is covered in many web sites and papers (so feel free to google).
Now I am sure Houllier net spent more than that in one year
Rafa Not just did he have to sell so he can buy, he had to put up with a continuous change of financial plans, he gets promised a player, but just as the deal about to complete the owners withhold the money . this happened again and again the most famous is the Barry deal.
23 Nov 2010 22:21:33
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23 Nov 2010 22:11:18
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Never mind about look whose scored for bayern and real, looked whose just scored for Liverpool res AGAIN, with a great solo goal against the blue noses, PACHECO! !, now I know the reserves and the first team are miles apart but he's brilliant
Trillionaire
Meant to add to last post, how much more attaching are the reserves than the first team, and it shows in the league 3 points clear after 8 games, hummmmmm? Come on woy get a grip
23 Nov 2010 22:19:23
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Ed it does my head to see non scousers at Anfield watching games.
Every week I sit a few rows back from some old Scottish bloke called Kenny and can't help feeling why a born and bred scouser isn't sitting there.
Our American owners have got to lay the law down and stop these non scousers entering the ground.
We should sell Torres and all the other johnny foreigners and only play lads born within the city limits.
It does my head in we have a statue to that Scottish pillock Shankly outside the ground it should be one of a true scouser like Ken Dodd or summit.
We should lift the boycott on the S*n because at least that paper owned by an Austrialian born American citizen is consistent in fighting foreigners ruining this country.
I know you will agree Ed
23 Nov 2010 22:13:17
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"hey ed, i know they are but it is a very hidden part of lfc, noone wants to beleive it happens at our club and unfortunatley there are a lot more than 1 of these idiots, i read a post by a guy earlier who said he dosn't go to anfield anymore, this is the same as me and for the same reasons"
Mate , I am arab with an accent from London , I go to anfield over dozen times a year for the past many years, in few times I came across an idiot or two, but most of the time I am surrounded by scousers strangers to me, that shared a laugh and swear words at the ref or a player.
Roy
23 Nov 2010 22:11:18
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Never mind about look whose scored for bayern and real, looked whose just scored for Liverpool res AGAIN, with a great solo goal against the blue noses, PACHECO! !, now I know the reserves and the first team are miles apart but he's brilliant
Trillionaire
23 Nov 2010 22:10:01
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Matheus of braga is our next new striker. he is soooooo ammmaazzing. lol i thought id get in there before some cock comes on here and says he is the next big thing just because he scores twice against the gooners. lol
23 Nov 2010 22:06:26
Just an idea but ronaldinho anyone?
There aren't enough pies mate
23 Nov 2010 22:06:18
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23 Nov 2010 21:36:26
Arsenal just lost to braga.got what they deserved.
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I like it when arsenal lose. But i just remembered if they come 3rd they'll join us in the europa league.
Harry5:)
23 Nov 2010 22:05:15
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Just seen many people slating benzema not saying your wrong but van der vaart was nothing great at real and now he is taking the premier league by storm sneijder was also quite average at Madrid and now is playing some of his greatest football maybe benzema will shine maybe not but sometimes in football risks have to be taken
23 Nov 2010 22:04:13
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Just an idea but ronaldinho anyone?
YES !
23 Nov 2010 22:03:43
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Seen it all - season ticket holder longer than most - Benitez is the biggest spender we've ever had - check how many players he bought and sold. No red tinted glasses, Souness was not good, Evans was not good, Moran shouldn't have taken the job.
Take a pop at me - no problem, it's an opinion of mine that Benitez brought us to where we are now, not H&G or anyone else.
23 Nov 2010 22:03:08
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It's the bit where you said we would be higher up the league if he was still here - I truly believe that if he was still here - Torres, Gerrard and a few others wouldn't be - he had lost it completely with our players - probably the same way he has lost the Inter players already
well he was the reason why torres is at anfield in the 1st place, so im sure he could bring in a replacement. i also remember a couple of seasons back that we had won more games without stevie g on the pitch than we did with him so i doubt it would have been a major disruption in footballing terms but would have crippled us emotionally, theres always better players out there, just have to look, something rafa was good at, looking. so with nesv taking over, he would have had all cash from sales of torres, gerrard and whoever else and may have built a cracking squad from scratch. just because we don't like his ways, he still managed to get results and i think with rafa still in charge with a decent new squad, wed be top 4 right now.
23 Nov 2010 22:00:14
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Just an idea but ronaldinho anyone?
23 Nov 2010 21:59:16
Look people we are not in a great position to buy huge names and world class strikers, , , sooo if many of you think benzemas not a world class striker then i guess hes right up our street then init, , , and don't say hes crap cos we all know hes not hes a good striker, , he might not be a world class striker to most of you, but he will get goals and he will help torres out loads, , , hes got skill and pace and hes young, .
[your spot on mate, people need to get real and realise that if we can manage to get benzema ahead of utd it'll be class.add honda to that and give danny wilson a start and we will be back up there.]
23 Nov 2010 21:57:47
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"I am ashamed of how we treated and continue to treat an absolute gentleman who loved this club."
This is so true , and its very sad how so few people understood what Rafa was trying to do last year, he is one of Liverpool's biggest fans , he tried to use his position to tell us about the bad things that were happening behind the scenes , what he did eventually cost him his job . and instead of being appreciated he is being slagged off again again .
Come on people he is 100 times better manager than the muppet we got now . Roy cares very much for his job and will do what ever he can, but Roy is not a liverpool fan, and from his interviews , I don't think he will ever want to be one.
Roy
23 Nov 2010 21:52:34
{ed's note - so you are judging the whole city on the basis of one idiot? Unfortunately those kind of people (I use the word loosely) are still fairly common in this country.
hey ed, i know they are but it is a very hidden part of lfc, noone wants to beleive it happens at our club and unfortunatley there are a lot more than 1 of these idiots, i read a post by a guy earlier who said he dosn't go to anfield anymore, this is the same as me and for the same reasons.
23 Nov 2010 21:52:33
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I think Liverpool should try and get benzema as he has potentional but is not given enough chance. when he is given a chance at real he hasnt rele taken it but at lyon he was top quality. . also i think he would be like forlan a flop in one league, changed league and is now one of the best strikers in the world
23 Nov 2010 21:50:58
To the person who said Rafa had the resources:
Are you seriously suggesting to us that Rafa Benitez in his time at Liverpool had the resources to match Chelsea or Man Utd in the transfer market?
Yes, he did spend a lot. But what you must realise is that during his tenure, he was often asked to sell players in order to raise his transfer budget. I think by the time he left, his total net spend was something like £15m. It's not all about expenditure, surely you realise that.
As for signing average players, well he had no choice did he? If he had a budget of £20m-£30m, he realised that depth was poor and that he needed 3 or 4 players, and tell me, could those amounts of money get anyone 3 or 4 world class players? No, certainly not. Its quite stupid on your part to look at expenditure alone and say something like "he could have got 10 players for £20m at that". It simply wasn't like that at all.
23 Nov 2010 21:45:20
And that includes Souness, who knew exactly what it was like to be a Liverpool manager with no real spending power
Well all that goes to show is that you might have been there, but your eyes are obviously painted on. Souness HAD the cash, in fact he was probably the biggest spender in the league when he was at Liverpool.
However your description of Benitez as our worst manager, and inspired use of this derogatory term leads me to believe you were wasting your time in the boys pen and elsewhere. They say Liverpool fans are the most knowledgable fans in football, but there are exceptions to every rule I find
23 Nov 2010 21:44:59
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Look people we are not in a great position to buy huge names and world class strikers, , , sooo if many of you think benzemas not a world class striker then i guess hes right up our street then init, , , and don't say hes crap cos we all know hes not hes a good striker, , he might not be a world class striker to most of you, but he will get goals and he will help torres out loads, , , hes got skill and pace and hes young, ED you may not agree but tough its fact {ed's note - I have not disagreed on his ability, but there is more to being a top player than ability - just ask Keegan.}
23 Nov 2010 21:37:50
The City of Liverpool was 'European capital of Culture' in recent history , naturally everyone has a responsibility to welcome citizens from all over the globe , and the vast majority of the population are willing to do exactly that .
In fact , Liverpudlians have a reputation for being open minded .
1977
Mate. I went to the arsenal game away last year and as walking down the holloway road a 'scouser' walked out of a pub shouder barged me and stood there with his hands out offering me a fight. I unzipped my top and said 'im a red' he said so f*ckin what your a paki. Now that dosnt sound like being 'open minded' to me. By the way it wasnt the people of liverpool that won them the 'european capital of culture' award it was bureacratic suits that gave the city that, it was/ is in need of regeneration and funding. {ed's note - so you are judging the whole city on the basis of one idiot? Unfortunately those kind of people (I use the word loosely) are still fairly common in this country.}
23 Nov 2010 21:36:26
Arsenal just lost to braga.got what they deserved.
23 Nov 2010 21:33:46
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Still laughing - check the Fat Waiters signings - he had the money( and I'm not a H&G fan ) - he just wasted it - instead of signing class for 20 million - he'd pay over the odds for average players - and ignore some of the talent already at the club.
So yes I am still laughing - started on the Kop ( well Boys Pen actually ) when Phil Taylor was the manager, and seen them all - and Benitez will go down ( in my opinion only of course ) as the worst we've had, and that includes Souness, who knew exactly what it was like to be a Liverpool manager with no real spending power, although sadly he did sign Paul Stewart, but did give McManaman and Fowler their breaks.
23 Nov 2010 21:33:06
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{ed's note - he has ability, but so does Babel, it is his attitude that is the problem. He has allowed himself to get fat - there is no excuse for a professional athlete to ever get fat.}
Sorry ed, but I think it's absolutely outrageous to come out say the guy is 'lazy and fat', unless ofcourse you know him on a personal level.
The player is clearly depressed and has low self esteem. He came from playing excellent football at Lyon, moving to Real Madrid, which he may have considered to be fulfilling his dreams, to not have the chemistry he was expecting and ultimately end up on the bench.
I am 100% certain that a fresh start at Liverpool, with the LFC Faithful behind him, will see the bloke playing how he used to. And at the asking price, i'd say it was definitely worth a bid. {ed's note - why is it outrageous? Just because it doesn't fit in with your thinking you mean? Clearly he has to be lazy or he would not be overweight. If he was training harder he wouldn't be putting on weight, so he is fat and lazy. You might think there are reasons behind it, but my personal view is that it shows that he will just get whiny and depressed when things aren't going his way. What we need are players who will knuckle down and work a bit harder when things are going wrong.}
23 Nov 2010 21:30:17
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23 Nov 2010 21:13:06Liverpool Rumours"always said babel would be the next henry"
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Sorry but I find it hard to believe any one can really think that.Surely you are just winding us up. If not you are a very poor judge of a footballer.
to be honest, babel was, at one point, one of the hottest prospects on the scene a couple of years back, with qualities not unlike henry's. hes lightening with the ball and can sometimes just breeze past defenders like henry, if he played as a striker, consistently. ian rush said once that a striker needs a run of about 6/ 7 games to achieve top form. something babel hasnt got the chance at with liverpool, which is what, i think, has made him lazy. he can't be bothered trying to get on in front of torres, its a losing battle. i say play him in a 442 with torres and see the lad shine. he would have a completely different attitude if he knew he was starting all the time. not to mention the threat we would become if he was to hit top form.
23 Nov 2010 21:30:06
Wenger since 2005
Won: fk all
Team: plays nice
Euro record: sh1te
vs. United and Chelski: crap
Rafa since 2005:
Won: CL and FA cup
Team: Hot and cold, sublime to ridiculous
Euro record: 2 finals, semi's, no. 1 team in Europe and feared by everyone.
vs. UTD and Chelski: they sh1t one, esp mouthpiece mourinho
23 Nov 2010 21:26:19
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Ed, what do you think of Cristian Ansaldi of Rubin Kazan? would he be a good solution to our LB problem in your opinion? {ed's note - possibly, is he looking for a move then? Because if not he might be priced too highly to make him a good value move, Kazan don't need money.}
23 Nov 2010 21:20:22
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Rafa lover? i think not. if you had read the post correctly, you would see that i was merely pointing out that it wouldn't have been great if rafa was in charge as comolli employed would mean little or no input from rafa regarding transfers. i wanted to see the back of rafa as much as most, his tactics, for me, were too negative. so im glad hes gone and hopefully not coming back. i am not in favour of players/ managers returning to clubs anyway.
It's the bit where you said we would be higher up the league if he was still here - I truly believe that if he was still here - Torres, Gerrard and a few others wouldn't be - he had lost it completely with our players - probably the same way he has lost the Inter players already.
John B
23 Nov 2010 21:17:21
Laughing at this again - RAFA lovers:-
Keep laughing. You won't find any Berbatovs or Verons or Shevchenkos in Rafa's signing record, because he never had the cash to take a risk like chelski and manure did. Instead we got a tottenham reject who, if he had done his FKN JOB instead of shaking his head for being subbed FOR NOT DOIN HIS FKN JOB, we would have walked the league. The only time Rafa could piss anywhere near the big boys financially, he showed them right up. It's easy to make good signings when you have tons of cash and a media that will turn a blind eye if they fail. OFC Rafa signed dirt, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys, but the list of successes is a hell of a list too. I am ashamed of how we treated and continue to treat an absolute gentleman who loved this club.
23 Nov 2010 21:15:19
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Still not too sure about gomes myself. ok so hes scoring seemingly at will, in the bundesliga. didn't we all think the same thing about a lot of players, in the past, from overseas? shevchenko i remember, cost chelsea 30m, didn't do an awful lot. .Bosko Balaban, left dinamo zagreb were he was leagues top scorer, for villa. he hardly even got on the pitch. Tomas Brolin went to leeds in 95 from parma, after a good season and world cup and scored 4 in 2 seasons. its been happening for years. that's only a couple of examples, players brilliant until they come to england. im afraid that will happen with gomes. it wasnt that long ago he was struggling to get goals for bayern.
23 Nov 2010 21:09:42
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Wish people would stop writing rubbish on this forum we are a mid table team with our current squad even the likes of Sunderland and spurs are attracting better players to their squad ie gyan and vdv if we don't make champions league you can expect the standard of player to drop again and if polson is the best we can get in in where in big trouble no matter how big a name lfc is
23 Nov 2010 21:07:58
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Just like to thank Ed for getting rid of the Moron who could only write in capitals. {ed's note - his posts degenerated into abuse and profanity, he made the turdz seem child friendly......}
23 Nov 2010 21:04:18
{ed's note - there has been a problem, which seems to have been getting worse of late, with a minority of local fans unhappy at anyone going along to matches who isn't a scouser. It is just a shame that some people are not very bright and think it makes a difference whereabouts someone is from. Instead of being proud of the club being so great it can attract support from all over the globe, they are bitter about it.}
And on the other hand, we have to put up with being called scousers wherever we come from ;) Beat both ways, dammit!
23 Nov 2010 21:02:50
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"MY NAMES NOT KIDDO "
Excuse me but I think you will find that it is considered bad manners to type in capitals as it is considered to be shouting. I also assume you mean "you are " and not
UR (bad manners again, and by the way the apostrophe in isn't should be between the n and the t not as between the s and the n.
How do you know the other poster was an old man ?
Is it because you are a child and consequently anyone over 18 is considered old by your standards ?
23 Nov 2010 21:02:03
The City of Liverpool was 'European capital of Culture' in recent history , naturally everyone has a responsibility to welcome citizens from all over the globe , and the vast majority of the population are willing to do exactly that .
In fact , Liverpudlians have a reputation for being open minded .
1977
23 Nov 2010 20:57:55
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To this guy
23 Nov 2010 20:04:10Liverpool RumoursLaughing at this again - RAFA lovers:-
rafa lover? i think not. if you had read the post correctly, you would see that i was merely pointing out that it wouldn't have been great if rafa was in charge as comolli employed would mean little or no input from rafa regarding transfers. i wanted to see the back of rafa as much as most, his tactics, for me, were too negative. so im glad hes gone and hopefully not coming back. i am not in favour of players/ managers returning to clubs anyway.
23 Nov 2010 20:56:54
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MY NAMES NOT KIDDO OLD MAN AND U SPELL FERGUSON WITH A O IN IT AND I HAVE'NT HEARD FERGUSON LATELY WAXING LYRICAL ABOUT BENZEMA SO U R WRONG OR DID U HEAR HIM SAY IT WHILE U WERE BOTH AT BINGO ha ha H OLD MAN ITS TIME FOR YOUR BATH IS'NT IT A BED BATH
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Now calm down kiddo, you're getting a little angry here.
And oh, because Sir Alex FergusOn hasn't praised him lately doesn't mean he rates him highly? What have you created your own little ritual whereby for a manager to rate a player, he must constantly praise him?
Now, before you respond son, calm down and take a deep breath. I obviouly hit a nerve with my last post. {ed's note - Fergie must rate him, he matched Madrid's bid for him but Benzema chose to go to Spain rather than Manchester.}
OHHHHH someone's just p****d their pants, lol
23 Nov 2010 20:52:10
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Ed do you think now that adebayor is likely to leave city we should put in a cheeky bid? {ed's note - no, people like him will always be causing trouble at a club, they do nothing but destroy team spirit and hold a team back.}
23 Nov 2010 20:43:45
I'm actually quite surprised that someone has asked "would an Asian be welcome at Anfield". Like are Asians at war with Scousers or something?
Scousers obviously aren't at war with asians, but there is definatley an underlying race problem there. I have seen it with my own eyes. {ed's note - I don't think it is any worse in Liverpool than anywhere else, in fact in many respects it is not as bad.}
23 Nov 2010 20:40:14
Obviously I, and many other Liverpool fans, aren't expecting big business this January and Henry himself has said that the main spending will be done in the Summer.
Anyone think there will be atleast one big money signing then? (By big money I mean £25m or so). Eds, you guys reckon there'll be a big money man in the Summer.? {ed's note - I think it will depend on Champions League qualification mate, without that I doubt we will see big signings.}
23 Nov 2010 20:36:02
{ed's note - there has been a problem, which seems to have been getting worse of late, with a minority of local fans unhappy at anyone going along to matches who isn't a scouser. It is just a shame that some people are not very bright and think it makes a difference whereabouts someone is from. Instead of being proud of the club being so great it can attract support from all over the globe, they are bitter about it.}
As we all know lfc is a global brand, when and not if, we break the asian market the majority of the clubs income could potentially be coming from the asian continent, it would be great to meet one of these mugs that think skin colour is an issue then to see what they think of the asian supporters. To be fair ed, I will stick to watching my team on the tv. I have a daughter now and she is already a red (obviously not out of choice. lol) but i will be thinking twice before i take her to a game. The dick heads that want anfield to the 'scouse only' might well get their way.
23 Nov 2010 20:29:46
I'm actually quite surprised that someone has asked "would an Asian be welcome at Anfield". Like are Asians at war with Scousers or something?
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Quite a confused exchange of posts , I agree .
On the subject of Honda , he just looks like he could really enjoy himself at Anfield , if given the chance .
1977
23 Nov 2010 20:27:43
I'm actually quite surprised that someone has asked "would an Asian be welcome at Anfield". Like are Asians at war with Scousers or something?
I think you should read the rest of the posts regaring this mate, it is a shame this still goes on with lfc supporters.
23 Nov 2010 20:25:47
Hey 1977
Read your long thread on the banter page about Rafa's first season and giving Roy the same amount of time. Are you John Henry in disguise?
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'Very funny' . I continue to cling to the hope that Roy Hodgson is worth more than he has pegged himself out to be this season - a 3-0 home win helps . When Roy Hodgson was appointed I wanted him to take the job with relish and really put something together , it is the best chance he has ever had and ever will have .
He seems to be holding himself back , I think the team could be doing alot better - quite simply . Therefore I have resigned myself to appreciating the positives , knowing the team can only improve , and Roy Hodgson has to improve .
1977
23 Nov 2010 20:24:23
Just a quick question for all the lads/ ladies reading. Does anyone recall like a week or two ago when Damien Comolli openly praised Payet and said something about him having more natural ability than Modric?
I only actually read a full article about it a minute ago, and I'm relativly pleased by it to be honest. I hope it's an indication that Liverpool hope or intend to make a move for him in the January transfer window.
Would Camolli really make comments like that for nothing, out of the blue?
Perhaps wishful thinking on my part.
23 Nov 2010 20:22:37
{ed's note - it might do them a bit of good to have an Asian face to admire.}
I love your positive attitude mate, but some things just don't change, been going to anfield since i was 10 (now im 30) and have heard quite a few stories about mates and others that have been targeted because of skin colour. shame. Also have some friends in london who are white and lfc fans, they have alsdo experienced flak from scousers because they are not from liverpool. I thought our club welcomed everyone. {ed's note - there has been a problem, which seems to have been getting worse of late, with a minority of local fans unhappy at anyone going along to matches who isn't a scouser. It is just a shame that some people are not very bright and think it makes a difference whereabouts someone is from. Instead of being proud of the club being so great it can attract support from all over the globe, they are bitter about it.}
23 Nov 2010 20:11:15
I come on this site regularly and have seen all this talk of Honda coming to Anfiled this Jan. If I remember correctly Some bell e*d posted a stupid remark about "chinky" fried rice or as close to a few weeks back, would an asian player 'really' be welcome at anfield?
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I'm actually quite surprised that someone has asked "would an Asian be welcome at Anfield". Like are Asians at war with Scousers or something?
23 Nov 2010 20:09:00
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STICK YOUR PUNCTUATION UP YOUR ASSSS ED {ed's note - I couldn't be bothered to read the rest, you clearly know nothing about the game and have nothing to add to a conversation except profanity and abuse. Take it elsewhere because I am not interested in wasting my time reading your rubbish.}
23 Nov 2010 20:04:10
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Laughing at this again - RAFA lovers:-
I think it actually would have been a disaster. nesv/ fenway sports still would have appointed comolli for transfer dealings over the head of rafa, as they did with roy, and as we all know, rafa likes full control of transfers, so not really a match made in heaven, more like the odd couple. though i do agree we would probably be in a higher position in the league right now if rafa was still in charge.
Bit like Inter Milan are I presume, hopefully he gets the sack - sells his house in Caldy and buggers off back to Spain so people will stop talking about him coming back.
23 Nov 2010 20:01:55
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Hey 1977
Read your long thread on the banter page about Rafa's first season and giving Roy the same amount of time. Are you John Henry in disguise?
23 Nov 2010 20:00:17
{ed's note - it would be far more racist to not buy him because of it, after all Barnes got tons of stick for being black, but he just got on with it. I am quite sure Honda would be a huge success anyway.}
Im not saying we should or shouldnt buy him because of that, I understand the board and management are bigger than the racist pricks that judge someone on the colour of their skin. All Im saying is that would the fans be just as welcoming if he didn't perform in his first few games? i think not. I too am sure the lad will get on with it and would give it his best but I have experienced racist comments by fellow scoucers at games too many times and have stopped going to games now as it really isn't worth it. {ed's note - it might do them a bit of good to have an Asian face to admire.}
23 Nov 2010 19:57:03
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EXCUSE ME ED BUT WHEN DID MANUTD COME OUT AND MAKE AN OFFER FOR BENZEMA IT WAS NOT AT THE TIME WHEN REAL MADRID MADE THERE BID I DONT RECALL AN OFFICIAL OFFER FOR BENZEMA FROM MAN UTD AT ALL FERGUSON HAS SPOKEN OF HOW HE LIKES BENZEMA IN THE PAST AND IF I REMEMBER THEY BOUGHT BERBATOV SO IF FERGIE THOUGHT HE WAS ANY GOOD DONT U THINK MAN UTD WOULD'VE BOUGHT HIM AND TO ANSWER YOUR QUOTE TO IF IAM ANGRY AT YOUR COMMENTS JUST BECAUSE I TYPE IN BLOCK CAPS DOES OT MEAN IAM ANGRY WE ALL HAVE OUR VIEWS ON HERE AND U ATTACKED MINE AND IT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN WORDS TO GET MY BACK UP ANY WAY {ed's note - could you try using punctuation at least so that your comments make some kind of sense? United did make an official bid for him when he moved to Madrid, it was one of the excuses United used for not spending the money they got from Ronaldo. That was held up as an example that they did try to spend the money, though he was a lot less than £80m!}
23 Nov 2010 19:56:10
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I'd bet all my money we would be in the top 4 right now with Rafa in charge. What a crying shame, NESV didn't have Rafa in charge. A marriage made in heaven it would have been.
i think it actually would have been a disaster. nesv/ fenway sports still would have appointed comolli for transfer dealings over the head of rafa, as they did with roy, and as we all know, rafa likes full control of transfers, so not really a match made in heaven, more like the odd couple. though i do agree we would probably be in a higher position in the league right now if rafa was still in charge
23 Nov 2010 19:54:04
Ed's note - Liverpool has the oldest Chinatown in Europe, I really don't get your point at all.}
Point being If the lad fails he will be slated because he's lfc's first asian player. Im a Red and have been since I can remember but I know as well as anyone asians do get the brunt of racist abuse in Liverpool. {ed's note - it would be far more racist to not buy him because of it, after all Barnes got tons of stick for being black, but he just got on with it. I am quite sure Honda would be a huge success anyway.}
23 Nov 2010 19:52:51
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OH OLD MAN R U ROY HODGSON IN DISGUISE BECAUSE HE LOVES WHAT FERGUSON SAYS ALSO IT IS NOT MY KNOWLEDGE THAT IS IN QUESTION IT IS YOUR OWN THE ONLY REASON U R ARGUING WITH ME IS THAT YOUR RESPONSE WAS BADLY RESEARCHED BECAUSE ALL OF YOUR INFORMATION COMES OUT OF THE OLD NEWSPAPERS U COLLECT WITH FERGUSON QUOTES IN THEM DARE I GUESS U R A MANC BUT I CANNOT BLAME U LIKE ROY HODGSON YOUR VIEWS R DATED
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And do show me where I said, or implied, that my views of Benzema are based on Fergie's praise of him? I never even said I liked him as a player (although I do).
You said something along the lines of "we don't see Man Utd going in for him", and I was merely stating that SAF rates him highly and has praised him in public, and even matched R.Madrid's offer for him. SAF's comments were not in newspapers it was in a press conference.
My views are dated? What views? Are you seeing things? Too many sweeties after school I see.
Anyway, I'm waiting on you writing anything of credibility, knowledge, or anything to counter-argue what I said.
Yawn, getting bored.
23 Nov 2010 19:44:36
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OH OLD MAN R U ROY HODGSON IN DISGUISE BECAUSE HE LOVES WHAT FERGUSON SAYS ALSO IT IS NOT MY KNOWLEDGE THAT IS IN QUESTION IT IS YOUR OWN THE ONLY REASON U R ARGUING WITH ME IS THAT YOUR RESPONSE WAS BADLY RESEARCHED BECAUSE ALL OF YOUR INFORMATION COMES OUT OF THE OLD NEWSPAPERS U COLLECT WITH FERGUSON QUOTES IN THEM DARE I GUESS U R A MANC BUT I CANNOT BLAME U LIKE ROY HODGSON YOUR VIEWS R DATED
23 Nov 2010 19:41:26
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I come on this site regularly and have seen all this talk of Honda coming to Anfiled this Jan. If I remember correctly Some bell e*d posted a stupid remark about "chinky" fried rice or as close to a few weeks back, would an asian player 'really' be welcome at anfield?? {ed's note - Liverpool has the oldest Chinatown in Europe, I really don't get your point at all.}
23 Nov 2010 19:40:04
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And now you have shown your lack of up to date knowledge. Ferguson has sang his praises sinse then, and has actually enquired, teh person who stated about the Lyon game was simply giving an example of a time when Ferguson has said this, he did not state that was the last time.
Benzema is a quality finisher of the ball, he is renowned around the world, Chelsea havnt been linked with him because they have Drogba, Anelka and Sturridge is coming on strong, Man United have Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, Owen and Macheda, City have Tevez, Adebayor, Silva, Jó?
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Finally some sense. Plus, Benzema doesn't fit into Mourinho's system which is why he fails to get into the R.Madrid team at the moment, and under Pellegrini, he never got into the team because Pellegrini preferred to play Ronaldo and Higuian up top in the diamond formation.
23 Nov 2010 19:38:01
QUOTE ". . What Benitez should do is actually sit down and think what a great job he had at Liverpool with fantstically loyal and supportive fans, which he lost because he got involved in off field politics and lost the support of the major players post the sale of Alonso. He should have stuck to "coaching", which he was one of the best at. . .Rafa cocked up."
To the person who posted this above, what a fantastic, short insight. Fair play mate great post.
Rafa's played his last season all wrong at Liverpool. If only he kept the fans on his side, rode out the storm with the last owners, just think what he could have achieved with decent owners, giving him some decent financial backing not only this season but every season?
I'd bet all my money we would be in the top 4 right now with Rafa in charge. What a crying shame, NESV didn't have Rafa in charge. A marriage made in heaven it would have been.
Alas it was not to be. He cannot come back. As the poster above pointed out, it wasn't just the owners he had a feud with, he lost the dressing room's respect after the Sally Barry/ Alonso scandal.
We will never know, but once again to all fans out there that demanded change last season, be more careful what you wish for in future, or just cut your tongue out and eat it.
Bob the Red
23 Nov 2010 19:36:17
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Love this banter game - it makes me laugh -to the person who said that Torres - when we signed him he's not half the player he is now - BEHAVE - Torres at AM was pure class which is one Benitez got right (or one he couldn't get wrong ), as for the rest BABEL ( striker not a winger ), JOVANOVIC ( striker not a winger ), KUYT ( striker not a winger ) also we mention Joe COLE ( CM not a winger ), Meireles ( CM not a winger ) - Shelvey ( CM not a winger ) when are we going to buy players in the positions we need them, not try and make them something they are not, and not forgetting JOHNSON ( a winger - certainly not a defender). Sadly you can't compare other generation players against modern day players - supersub was a good player, but you don't become a true legend for a goal against St Etienne, and I did like ti when Davie come on as a sub - s* t when he started though.
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23 Nov 2010 19:33:17
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Liverpool should jus break the bank and get suarez and honda get players and will provide lots of goals in big games. that's all the players we need.
what u think ed ? {ed's note - Honda I agree with, but Suarez is overpriced for a player that is unproven in a top league.}
23 Nov 2010 19:32:19
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I can't belive everyone is slattin Benzema what hes had a bad season wif madrid hes useless i fink you are all forgettin the shear quality he was bringing to lyon wif trickery and force £12 million id snapp it off madrid and say thank you and run before they change there mind hes easy worth double once in a regular spot he could destroy any defence in the prem and with him and torres upfront they wud be leathal
jaybe {ed's note - he has ability, but so does Babel, it is his attitude that is the problem. He has allowed himself to get fat - there is no excuse for a professional athlete to ever get fat.}
23 Nov 2010 19:29:23
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THIS GUY WHO HAS STATED ABOUT FERGUSON SINGING BENZEMAS PRAISES WELL U ANSWERED YOUR OWN ARGUEMENT BY SAYING WHEN MAN UTD PLAYED LYON IN CHPS LEAGUE HOW MANY SEASONS AGO WAS THAT U IDIOT WHATS HE DONE SINCE NOTHIN
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And now you have shown your lack of up to date knowledge. Ferguson has sang his praises sinse then, and has actually enquired, teh person who stated about the Lyon game was simply giving an example of a time when Ferguson has said this, he did not state that was the last time.
Benzema is a quality finisher of the ball, he is renowned around the world, Chelsea havnt been linked with him because they have Drogba, Anelka and Sturridge is coming on strong, Man United have Rooney, Berbatov, Hernandez, Owen and Macheda, City have Tevez, Adebayor, Silva, Jó?
23 Nov 2010 19:24:01
THIS GUY WHO HAS STATED ABOUT FERGUSON SINGING BENZEMAS PRAISES WELL U ANSWERED YOUR OWN ARGUEMENT BY SAYING WHEN MAN UTD PLAYED LYON IN CHPS LEAGUE HOW MANY SEASONS AGO WAS THAT U IDIOT WHATS HE DONE SINCE NOTHIN
Oh, and don't forget the F***wit button mate!
23 Nov 2010 19:14:17
When the sheik took over at city they didn't tour the far east. .
They didn't even get as far as the Middle East, the lost fkers
23 Nov 2010 19:12:16
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THIS GUY WHO HAS STATED ABOUT FERGUSON SINGING BENZEMAS PRAISES WELL U ANSWERED YOUR OWN ARGUEMENT BY SAYING WHEN MAN UTD PLAYED LYON IN CHPS LEAGUE HOW MANY SEASONS AGO WAS THAT U IDIOT WHATS HE DONE SINCE NOTHIN
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Do your research son, and maybe you'll learn abit more. Fergusen rates Benzema very highly, and that hasn't changed since his Real Madrid days, because Man Utd have constantly been linked with him.
Doesn't matter how many seasons ago it was kiddo, Fergusen still sung his praises on many occassions.
Run along now, its nearly bath time.
23 Nov 2010 19:03:37
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I HAVE'NT SEEN HAZARD SAY THAT IN ANY NEW SOURCE ABOUT I DONT LIKE LIVERPOOL OR IS IT WHEN U WERE TURNING OVER TO GO ASLEEP LAST NIGHT
23 Nov 2010 19:03:09
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Liverpool is looking at the options for a part exchange deal with Fenerbahçe for Brazilian left back André Santos with another Brazilian Fabio Aurelio plus 7 mil euro. But the media wrongly speculated the player as Emre Belogozlu. Very reliable source.
I spent the entire summer in Turkey (great vacation spot by the way) and got a a chance to catch a few games in Istanbul (television). I watched a all the 'great' teams at least twice during pre-season and early euro campaigns. No offence to any Turkish football fans but, the Turkish League is rubbish. I wached Young Boys eliminate Fenerbahçe from the CL with the greatest of ease. André Santos looked OK on a BAD team, Aurelio is a better player than him so the 7 million makes absolutely no sense. As a matter of fact, I would be very surprised if any player I saw this summer could cut it in England or any other major european league. I have nothing against the country, the people over there are the nicest I have ever been around on travel and I recommend it strongly. But, the football over there is second-rate at best. Forget, Santos, Quaresma, Turan and especially Emre.
23 Nov 2010 18:57:06
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To all the people commenting on what i sed about "benzema for 12m" and saying he dosnt get played at madrid, well luk at this:
Casilas
Ramos Pepe Carvalho Marcelo
Alonso Khedira
Ronaldo Ozil/ Kaka Di Maria
Higuain
For one there formation does not allow them to play double strikers. But still he is picked for france most of the time, and for 12m, he is the best striker of that price who we have been linked with. If we were to give him a good run with torres i think he could shine. yes i would prefer aguero, suarez, llorente, but these players would come at over 20m, and we are forgeting we must also buy some natural wingers (who are going to come cheap) and another central player. For 12m i think it would be a risk worth taking.
E.H LFC
23 Nov 2010 18:57:00
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Again someone has come out and defended babel saying that david fairclough is not as good as babel ha ha u r mad mate let me think what fairclough has contributed to liverpool and what babel has emmmm i think we all no and of these 12 fabulous goals babel has scored how long has it taken him babel is crap and always will be plus how can u say he is a striker if u knew his history as a player at ajax he was a winger just like ashley young cuttin in off the left to get it on his so called powerful right foot well with his powerful right it more often misses than connects with the net and u say about chances when he first signed he was our young player of the year but as soon as he got dropped for a couple of games his attitude has stunk ever since and he has had chances under rafa and roy and it is his own thought that he has not taken them emmm how did torres do in his first chance in the side lets be honest when we signed torres he was nowhere near the player he has become and how has acheived this by working hard for the team good attitude and has worked on his game i see no change babel since the day he arrived to day he will leave (JANUARY I HOPE) PLS POST THIS ED IM HOPPING MAD WITH THESE BAD JUDGES OF PLAYERS
23 Nov 2010 18:46:38
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If wilshere was ready to play for arsenal at 16, and rooney for everton at 16, , then surely suso should be in the squad now, and hes 17. exactly the type of creative player we have missed recently.
ed, if we were to go back to a 4-4-2 permanantly, who would your centre mids be? gerrard and meireles, or gerrard and lucas?
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jay b
23 Nov 2010 18:45:05
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1977
Nice long thread with valid points , but for me its not just about results , its about the performances and the shape of the team, it does nt fill me with confidence . .
I asked the question yesterday, I'll ask again, when was the last time liverpool had negative goal difference after 10 or 15 games ?
I think this tells you everything .
I really really really hope I end up being wrong about Roy, I don't want any trophies this season, its a near impossible task for any manager, all I am asking is a top 7 finish.
Roy
23 Nov 2010 18:38:59
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I can't wait to see some fresh faces at LFC after January!
23 Nov 2010 18:35:36
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To be fair on benzema, , at real madrid he was playing alongside higuain and ronaldo, , most plays where going to ronaldo and higuain not many balls where going to benzema, , benzema was assisting these 2 players alot tho, , at lyon he was the one striker upfront and scored bags of goals, , i think hed be good for us
23 Nov 2010 18:32:04
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23 Nov 2010 15:53:20Liverpool RumoursI think pretty soon we'll see Suso playing. At least in some European games or coming from the bench.
as much as we would all like to see that happen, personally i don't believe we will see much of the lad at all. i think the same thing is happening with pacheco also. roy seems the type of manager who prefers speed and strength over creativity. solid players, if you will, who do the job they are there to do and no more. suso is indeed technically gifted without a doubt but i think roy would see that as a weakness and that it could be considered inconsistent. unless we bring in a new manager these types of quality players will be doomed to a life in reserves or sold on without them reaching their full potential with the club. what you think ed? would you agree?
{Editor's note - I think Roy really needs to start giving these players a chance.}
23 Nov 2010 18:30:47
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There are only 2 quality players Liverpool should be chasing in Jan window if possible. .
1. Bastian Schweinsteiger
2. Lukas Podolski
In reply to this;
So you want Podolski who recently moved clubs, and is not unsettled, and actually helping his home town club improve and Schweinsteiger who has been told that he will have to see out his contract before they will let him move!
Yea, i see what you mean, were obviously crazy for not looking at these two players who are clearly available for purchase. .
Andy, Burscough
23 Nov 2010 18:21:22
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David fairclough was called super sub because he was most affective from the bench. He scored great goals in important games.He wasnt a great player, he had great moments but lacked consistency.To say he was a better player than Babel, is unfair.Babel as not been given a run of games in his favorite position. I know he disapointed in some games he as played up front , but the great Ian Rush, as always said a striker needs at least a run of Six games to reach top form after a break.Babel as never been giving that sort of run as a striker.Every time he is giving a start it is like more pressure to perform.or your out of the team, unlike some players are guaranteed a game for being a hoofer.
23 Nov 2010 18:16:20
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On people saying we should fear tottenham why they r inconsistant bolton smashed them after there chps league campaign they got battered by arsenal in the first half there defense is poor and i no our away form is poor but i think torres is coming good meireles is looking better kuyt is back johnson looks good and carragher won't be as immature as arsenals defense second half i hope they start bale and van der vaart because none of there midfield tracks back and i think we can beat them but we must play as well as we have at home c'mon roy get them fired up tottenham like to go all out attack so we must sit back and pick them off on the counter i no we can do it and get that chps league place back from these wanna b's we have good players they must just believe they r
23 Nov 2010 18:15:53
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23 Nov 2010 17:18:03
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On the benzema signing i question buying a player who could not find a starting spot at real madrid under 2 managers and also i don't think he is that good anyway what r people basing his form on a goal against england cos he has done nothing in real for 2 seasons im sorry but if we r gonna spend money we need to buy aguero, suarez, lukaku, un know people in form and that are starting let tottenham have him
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LOOK AT THE LAST 3 PLAYERS TO COME OUT OF REAL MADRID THAT WERE STRUGGLING TO GET A GAME, SCHNEIDER, ROBBEN AND VAN DER VAART. robben and schneider arguably 2 of the best 3 players in the past year in the world, and van der vaart is single handedly keeping spurs in contention.
id be willing to take a chance on any others struggling at madrid {ed's note - difference is that Robben, Schneider and VDV were just not wanted because they weren't marketable enough. Benzema is not wanted because he is fat and lazy.}
to be fair on benzema, , at real madrid he was playing alongside higuain and ronaldo, , most plays where going to ronaldo and higuain not many balls where going to benzema, , benzema was assisting these 2 players alot tho, , at lyon he was the one striker upfront and scored bags of goals
23 Nov 2010 18:11:04
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Copied from general rumours page.
23 Nov 2010 17:08:11
Rafa Benitez will be sacked by Inter Milan within the next 10 days to be replaced by Fabio Capello who will mutually leave the England job. The FA will approach Harry Redknapp to take over the England team on a part time basis partnered by Stuart Pearce until a permanent appointment can be made. Benitez will be looking for a return to either La Liga or the English Premier League.
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If Benitez is sacked by Inter I can imagine his bitterness surrounding his removal from Liverpool will increase and I bet we hear more about it through his PR mouthpiece Guillem Balague.
What Benitez should do is actually sit down and think what a great job he had at Liverpool with fantstically loyal and supportive fans, which he lost because he got involved in off field politics and lost the support of the major players post the sale of Alonso. He should have stuck to "coaching", which he was one of the best at.
His wife and family loved living on Merseyside and I'm sure they wish the Inter Milan episode had not happend.
Rafa cocked up.
23 Nov 2010 18:09:26
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On the benzema signing i question buying a player who could not find a starting spot at real madrid under 2 managers and also i don't think he is that good anyway what r people basing his form on a goal against england cos he has done nothing in real for 2 seasons im sorry but if we r gonna spend money we need to buy aguero, suarez, lukaku, un know people in form and that are starting let tottenham have him
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Pellegrini never wanted Benzema at Real Madrid. He preffered to play Higuian and Ronaldo up front. He played a kind of diamond formation which was wrong initially.
As for Mourinho, he doesn't feel that Benzema fits into his system.
23 Nov 2010 17:51:50
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23 Nov 2010 14:52:42
When Benitez took over LFC , the team needed better players , but despite a poor domestic campaign - embarrassed in the FA Cup , runners-up in the League Cup whilst finshing 5th in the Premier League , the Manager put a Champions League triumph together , despite only 2 of his 7 players transfered into the club being successes .
At the time Benitez took over we understood that it would take time , and he took that time to move the team forward - through player quality and famous matches , until his last season when players sold and players dissafected , left the club in a poorer state than what we had been used to during Rafa Benitez's time . To be fair , the same courtesy ought to be afforded Roy Hodgson . Similar to Benitez's first season , some of the results are awful and the performances mainly showing promise in the European campaign .
I think we can say again , the new LFC manager needs to improve the squad , and thus far Raul Meireles and Joe Cole are still capable of proving themselves every bit as useful to Roy Hodgson's first squad as Alonso and Garcia were effective in Rafa Benitez's first season .
In Benitez'z first season , LFC were beaten Away by Southampton , Birmingham , Crystal Palace , Bolton Wanderers , Middlesbrough , Everton and Newcastle United amongst other defeats , that also occurred at Anfield . Losing 14 Premier League games in total .
To be fair to Roy Hodgson , despite his awful start , he could still finish a better League campaign that Rafa Benitez did in 2004/ 2005 , and may be able to win the FA Cup and Europa League - it is very possible .
Rafa Benitez inherited a very stable Football Club , only Micheal Owen was prepared to leave , whereas Roy Hodgson has had to convince 'key players' to stay at LFC during his first few months .
The LFC first team has lost Alonso , Arbeloa , Mascherano , Hyypia and Benayoun in the last 18 months . That is a massive loss to the starting 11 .
Yet , there is again the semblance of a talented side , a side that needs investment , a side that requires time and a side that can do better given that time .
We have to give Roy Hodgson the same support this season , that we demonstrated on behalf of Rafa Benitez in his first season .
The circumstances Roy Hodgson inherited were far worse and far more challenging than what Rafa Benitez faced , upon his arrival .
If we show courage and patience , this season can still reward us .
Collectively , the Staff and the players are responsible for improving themselves , and the club now has the stability and foundation to do that .
LFC can still beat anyone , on any given day .
Therefore when we do win , lets enjoy the positives .
1977
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Speaks volumes yes I agree to a lot of it. But rafa had proved he was a winner in a top European league. Roy has not proven anythin in prem other than relagation battles plus unable to win away. He is not a winner. But to your comments I agree, but with a new manager who we know will get it right in the end. We all had faith in rafa even when we wernt winning through his first season we could see what he was trying to do. With Roy I carnt see what he is trying to do other than go a goal up then hope for the best that the name of lfc will make the other team give up. We are lfc and teams want to beat u's more than Roy experienced at fulham and Blackburn , so his 1 goal up the defend is going to work.the sooner we get a new man the sooner he can settle, if not it will be a season for Roy then another season for new manager. So it's 3 yrs before we even think about starting to believe.
23 Nov 2010 17:51:27
I was just thinking. If we were to play Kelly as right back, how about we then play Johnson right mid. This would prove to be a solid right side, and Johnson can deliver a ball into the box as well as cutting in on his left foot. We would still have the option of Maxi if we need something different.
What are your thoughts?
23 Nov 2010 17:32:51
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We will be signing Eden hazard in january for €15million,
Then in the summer Arda Turan and Hulk.
The reason Pacheco has been dropped is because he turned up late to two training session and Roy find this unnaceptable but if Poulsen or konckesky both did that do you think they would be dropped from the team? No
Shanks
23 Nov 2010 17:31:30
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THANKS ED FOR STICKING UP FOR MY COMMENT ON BENZEMA AT LEAST WE BOTH AGREE HE IS USELESS WHY CAN NONE OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE REALISE HE IS NO GOOD JUST BECAUSE OF HIS NAME I SAW SOMEONE STATE JUST BECAUSE HE IS ON REALS BENCH WE SHOULD BY HIM BUT SO IS DUDEK SO I SUPPOSE WE SHOULD GIVE THEM REINA FOR DUDEK ha ha HA
23 Nov 2010 17:30:02
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To this guy:
I have heard on good authority that Liverpool will sign 4 players in the january transfer window.The names are: (Eden Hazard i have heard that the deal is already done). Fabio Contreao, Sahko, (llorente, i have heard that deal is almost done and he will cost 25 million.Total cost for all these players will reach to 40 milllion because that is what roy is allowed to spend.I am not lying here this has come from a very reialble source.
You wouldn't get any 2 of those players for 40million mate not doubting your source but he will have to look at values. Hazard has been quoted at 20+
contreao also 20+
etc. .
Fowler is god
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Why have 23 people ticked this as unbelievable? What do you think Lille are just going to sell their best asset and one of the most coveted players in the world for less than £20 mill? He's not exactly demanding to leave, the can just keep him a few more years and then sell him for a high price, so there's no way they will sell him on the cheap. Can't understand why so many people think that is unbelievable.
{Editor's Note: I think what they find unbelievable is those four players moving to Liverpool in January.}
23 Nov 2010 17:28:23
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This is to 1977 r u blind i don't care if babel has scored 12 goals from the bench and its an insult to david fairclough he is not even half the player he was why do people insist on sticking up for babel he is useless his work rate is poor his football intelligence is poor his finishing is poor people say his not had a chance blah blah blah he is carp do u not think there must be something wrong with his mental attitude and as i stated before on here at a international training camp he missed the AFTERNOON session and was fined and van basten was furious with him so i don't care about babel neither joe cole neither jovanovic or aquilani or aurelio or insua or el zhar or because they r all a waste of space people put poulson down but a t least he is enthusiastic i mean has any of theses players ive mentioned done that i think not
23 Nov 2010 17:27:45
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What does everyone think about this team for next year?
Renia
Johnson Agger Skrtel Coentrão
Gerrard Miereles
A.Johnson Honda N'zogbia
Torres
Could easily happen with 35 million investment + sales. This is the best team we can hope for I think. Any views ed. Great site too
23 Nov 2010 17:24:18
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On the benzema signing i question buying a player who could not find a starting spot at real madrid under 2 managers and also i don't think he is that good anyway what r people basing his form on a goal against england cos he has done nothing in real for 2 seasons im sorry but if we r gonna spend money we need to buy aguero, suarez, lukaku, un know people in form and that are starting let tottenham have him- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Did you question mascararno not getting a starting role when at west ham? He couldn't get on the bench there but become a fitting and fixture at anfield untill unsettled.
23 Nov 2010 17:20:27
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There are only 2 quality players Liverpool should be chasing in Jan window if possible. .
1. Bastian Schweinsteiger
2. Lukas Podolski
Honestly anyone who does not this that these two players are exactly what Liverpool needs is crazy. . Fingers crossed we brake the bank with one or both of these players. . Quality Quality Quality! ! What you think Ed?
{Editor's Note: So you think I am crazy then?}
23 Nov 2010 17:14:46
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Bale and Van Der Vaart injured are missing the bremen match tonite in th CL and possibily out of action against lfc.I hope they don't recover 4 the match
23 Nov 2010 16:59:20
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I'd just like to make a point about people hitting believable/ unbelievable for an original post even though a reply has been posted.
I see often see that somebody has made a great reply to a post, however people are still hitting unbelievable from what they read in the first paragraph.
Editors; Maybe a tweak you could make to the site in regards to this?
{Editor's note - Will suggest it to the main Ed}
23 Nov 2010 16:55:33
Ryan babel is the second highest goal scoring substitute in LFC history - 12 goals as a sub , only David Fairclough has scored more form the bench - 18 goals from the bench .
In the history of LFC there has been 170 goals scored by substitues .
I think perhaps there could be a role for Ryan Babel in the first team , as a substitute Striker . I would like to see Roy Hodgson give him a chance . Ryan Babel's form foundered under Benitez , Roy Hodgson spoke of a clean slate for all players , maybe Roy Hodgson can get something from him - like David Fairclough was effective .
1977
23 Nov 2010 16:52:58
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23 Nov 2010 16:11:14
You are right about Kelly as long as he gets his chance at centre half. I think the jury is still out on the others but they all have potential, although as a near £2 million signing I don't really consider Shelvey as a homegrown youngster. Same with Wilson. Come to think of it Kelly and Spearing out of all of them are the only ones to come through the ranks from a very young age. We have taken all the others from other clubs.
Harry J23 Nov 2010 15:50:57
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Forget Spearing, Amoo, Eccleston and Mavinga as well. They will never become 1st team regulars. The only youngsters with a chance of making it are Wisdom and Suso.
Harry J
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Agreed with you about Wisdom and Suso Harry, but what about Jonjo Shelvey, Martin Kelly, Dani Ayala and Rahim Sterling (to name a few)? The kids have more potential than I think you are giving them credit for. Now its just a case of the right management bringing them into the first team.
Red Gart
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I AGREE WITH WISDOM, SUSO, SHELVEY, KELLY, AYALA AND STERLING ALL HAVING A GOOD CHANCE OF MAKING IT INTO THE FIRST TEAM, PARTICULARLY SUSO. BUT I ALSO RATE NGOO (NOT NGOG) AND ALSO AMOO. THOUGH I THINK ALL WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE WITH A NEW FORWARD THINKING MANAGER AND ASSISTANT MANAGER THOUGH.
23 Nov 2010 16:46:22
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On the benzema signing i question buying a player who could not find a starting spot at real madrid under 2 managers and also i don't think he is that good anyway what r people basing his form on a goal against england cos he has done nothing in real for 2 seasons im sorry but if we r gonna spend money we need to buy aguero, suarez, lukaku, un know people in form and that are starting let tottenham have him
23 Nov 2010 16:42:04
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Lucas Barrios is an awesome striker and a good friend of Meireles. He will be the striker to join us in January. Very, very good signing in my opinion.
23 Nov 2010 16:39:40
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Hi People
So the Rumour is that Liverpool should be getting
K. Honda
So from all the supporting fans who will go out and buy a kit with Honda's name on it.
I doubt many, so from a club point there is not much benefit to it from this purchase.
I think that Liverpool's brand name will increase in the East and Asia because the Liverpool followers will be buying knock offs and not the originals or replicas from the official stores.
I guess it will be wiser to buy K. Aguero!
23 Nov 2010 16:39:11
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Hi just heard from a close source to liverpool that we have starting negotiating bid with real madrid for two of there players one being Benzema and the other being Lassana Diarra to replace the out going lucas whos off to stoke. Eden Hazard is also believed to be the number one transfer target after Benzema with poulson going in the other direction. aquaman to return to liverpool after the form his been showing in italy. Who do you think we should sign and y do u think them ed
{Editor's Note: Benzema is a slight possibility; Diarra carries baggage as Chelsea and Arsenal already found out; Hazard seems unlikely - but possible. Aquilani has no interest whatsoever in playing for Liverpool - he will be sold this summer, the remaining debt paid off and we will have perhaps learned a lesson.}
23 Nov 2010 16:25:23
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In my opinion Christian Poulsen was always going to be a short term replacement for Mascherano until the new owners were in place. I can see Liverpool making moves for both Matuidi and M'vila, with at least one signing expect Poulsen to be sold in June.
23 Nov 2010 16:22:05
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Mushroom, what an apt name, kept in the dark, and fed carp. Typical of the Benitez brigade
23 Nov 2010 16:14:24
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Editor which players specifically do you think roy is targeting to bring in jan?
{Editor's Note: You need to keep up with your reading of the site, we cannot simply answer the same questions over and over again because you cannot be bothered to glance through the available pages.}
23 Nov 2010 16:13:18
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Florentino perez has just stated that Benzema is going nowhere
23 Nov 2010 16:11:14
You are right about Kelly as long as he gets his chance at centre half. I think the jury is still out on the others but they all have potential, although as a near £2 million signing I don't really consider Shelvey as a homegrown youngster. Same with Wilson. Come to think of it Kelly and Spearing out of all of them are the only ones to come through the ranks from a very young age. We have taken all the others from other clubs.
Harry J23 Nov 2010 15:50:57
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Forget Spearing, Amoo, Eccleston and Mavinga as well. They will never become 1st team regulars. The only youngsters with a chance of making it are Wisdom and Suso.
Harry J
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Agreed with you about Wisdom and Suso Harry, but what about Jonjo Shelvey, Martin Kelly, Dani Ayala and Rahim Sterling (to name a few)? The kids have more potential than I think you are giving them credit for. Now its just a case of the right management bringing them into the first team.
Red Gart
23 Nov 2010 16:08:34
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Ed do you think there is a chance of Eden Hazard coming to LFC even though he has already clearly stated that if he leaves lille then he would go to either arsenal or real?
{Editor's Note: There is always a chance - but in my view I doubt that it will happen in the near term.}
23 Nov 2010 16:07:51
Liverpool have apparently planned a pre season tear of asia for next season. This has fuelled rife speculation that Honda will sign in January. FINGERS WELL AND TRULY CROSSED
But we've just been bought by a north American company. Don't you think the NESV/ Fenway Sports would like to show of their new asset in America instead?
They are business men. Honda would prove instrumental in making finances over in asia. Imagine shirt sales. United are too big in US so it would be much more feasoble and better business to go to Asia. When H&G took over we didn't go to USA. When the sheik took over at city they didn't tour the far east.
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In the summer of 2010 NESV invited Celtic and Sporting to play a friendly at Fenway park as part of the celebrations for the newly developed Fenway Parks .
Maybe oneday , LFC will be playing exhibition matches at Fenway Park against Major League representatives . I think that would make for an interesting relationship between Fenway Sports Group's major fanbases (Baseball and Football) .
1977
23 Nov 2010 16:04:23
I still believe in Ryan Babel .
23 Nov 2010 15:56:05
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If we give Suso a start against Spurs- - I bet Arry and Spurs'll have the shock of the season.
23 Nov 2010 15:53:20
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I think pretty soon we'll see Suso playing. At least in some European games or coming from the bench.
23 Nov 2010 15:50:57
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Forget Spearing, Amoo, Eccleston and Mavinga as well. They will never become 1st team regulars. The only youngsters with a chance of making it are Wisdom and Suso.
Harry J
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Agreed with you about Wisdom and Suso Harry, but what about Jonjo Shelvey, Martin Kelly, Dani Ayala and Rahim Sterling (to name a few)? The kids have more potential than I think you are giving them credit for. Now its just a case of the right management bringing them into the first team.
Red Gart
23 Nov 2010 15:50:10
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Liverpool have apparently planned a pre season tear of asia for next season. This has fuelled rife speculation that Honda will sign in January. FINGERS WELL AND TRULY CROSSED
But we've just been bought by a north American company. Don't you think the NESV/ Fenway Sports would like to show of their new asset in America instead?
They are business men. Honda would prove instrumental in making finances over in asia. Imagine shirt sales. United are too big in US so it would be much more feasoble and better business to go to Asia. When H&G took over we didn't go to USA. When the sheik took over at city they didn't tour the far east. .
23 Nov 2010 15:46:20
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Hearing a lot about this Benfica left-back Fabio Contraeo (sp.).
I've watched him play about two or three times, and going forward, I like what I see in all honesty. But I never really got a chance to look at his defensive ability. It's a slight concern for me personally. I really hope he isn't a player whos offensive ability overshadows the fact that he has many short-comings at the back.
23 Nov 2010 15:36:23
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Seems like Insua has become a world beater since he left the club. Doesn't anyone remember his performances last season? If anything Konchesky is an improvement.
Forget Spearing, Amoo, Eccleston and Mavinga as well. They will never become 1st team regulars. The only youngsters with a chance of making it are Wisdom and Suso.
Harry J
23 Nov 2010 15:20:11
Andre Santos is 27 years old , might he be a viable option to offer width and creativity? I ask as I wonder wether the there will ever be room for established players under our new recruitment strategy , or will our signings from now on , only be young players ?
23 Nov 2010 15:09:55
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Hi ed just ive seen gary cahill bandied about on here a bit, I'd be seriously annoyed if we waste 15-20 million on him that's what bolton are looking for, hes 6th choice centre half for england not commanding in the air but he is a good footballer. Just think it would be a serious waste of money and the only reason pople want him is becuse hes english.what you think ed?
DCG
{Editor's Note: He is not a player I rate.}
23 Nov 2010 15:06:58
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I think everyone doubting Hodgson so much should read the piece on banter page, by 1977, he makes a very valid point!
23 Nov 2010 14:52:42
When Benitez took over LFC , the team needed better players , but despite a poor domestic campaign - embarrassed in the FA Cup , runners-up in the League Cup whilst finshing 5th in the Premier League , the Manager put a Champions League triumph together , despite only 2 of his 7 players transfered into the club being successes .
At the time Benitez took over we understood that it would take time , and he took that time to move the team forward - through player quality and famous matches , until his last season when players sold and players dissafected , left the club in a poorer state than what we had been used to during Rafa Benitez's time . To be fair , the same courtesy ought to be afforded Roy Hodgson . Similar to Benitez's first season , some of the results are awful and the performances mainly showing promise in the European campaign .
I think we can say again , the new LFC manager needs to improve the squad , and thus far Raul Meireles and Joe Cole are still capable of proving themselves every bit as useful to Roy Hodgson's first squad as Alonso and Garcia were effective in Rafa Benitez's first season .
In Benitez'z first season , LFC were beaten Away by Southampton , Birmingham , Crystal Palace , Bolton Wanderers , Middlesbrough , Everton and Newcastle United amongst other defeats , that also occurred at Anfield . Losing 14 Premier League games in total .
To be fair to Roy Hodgson , despite his awful start , he could still finish a better League campaign that Rafa Benitez did in 2004/ 2005 , and may be able to win the FA Cup and Europa League - it is very possible .
Rafa Benitez inherited a very stable Football Club , only Micheal Owen was prepared to leave , whereas Roy Hodgson has had to convince 'key players' to stay at LFC during his first few months .
The LFC first team has lost Alonso , Arbeloa , Mascherano , Hyypia and Benayoun in the last 18 months . That is a massive loss to the starting 11 .
Yet , there is again the semblance of a talented side , a side that needs investment , a side that requires time and a side that can do better given that time .
We have to give Roy Hodgson the same support this season , that we demonstrated on behalf of Rafa Benitez in his first season .
The circumstances Roy Hodgson inherited were far worse and far more challenging than what Rafa Benitez faced , upon his arrival .
If we show courage and patience , this season can still reward us .
Collectively , the Staff and the players are responsible for improving themselves , and the club now has the stability and foundation to do that .
LFC can still beat anyone , on any given day .
Therefore when we do win , lets enjoy the positives .
1977
23 Nov 2010 13:58:49
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Under new owners you would see a different rafa, more relaxed. more money to buy first choice players insted ov 2nd and 3rd choices. as long as he got rid ov the rotation i would welcome him back with open arms. every game we had hope and every season we were thinking yes this is our season. and now under roy we know we carnt get title hope up and never will under "i carnt win away game roy" he was a couple of games away from being a ledgend, and that was down to owners not giving him one player so he could rest a couple ov players for the end of season run in. i carnt believe just how many people forget the inter win barca, real, juventus, plus many many more memerable wins. there seems to be far to many ppl holding last season against the man. when it was clear for everyone to see H&G set him up to lose because they didn't like the support he had from loyal fans.
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Did you have hope last season when we bearly made 7th? What a good season we had then.
Rafa is a massive step backwards and we need to stride forwards. We need a manager with fresh ideas who understands how to play football and not the long ball defensive type. Doesn't have to be a high profile name either, I mean, how high profile was the legendary Shanks when he became manager? And look what he did. You can probably follow that on with Paisley and Dalglish aswell.
MUSHROOM
23 Nov 2010 13:53:56
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Under new owners you would see a different rafa, more relaxed. more money to buy first choice players insted ov 2nd and 3rd choices. as long as he got rid ov the rotation i would welcome him back with open arms. every game we had hope and every season we were thinking yes this is our season. and now under roy we know we carnt get title hope up and never will under "i carnt win away game roy" he was a couple of games away from being a ledgend, and that was down to owners not giving him one player so he could rest a couple ov players for the end of season run in. i carnt believe just how many people forget the inter win barca, real, juventus, plus many many more memerable wins. there seems to be far to many ppl holding last season against the man. when it was clear for everyone to see H&G set him up to lose because they didn't like the support he had from loyal fans.
23 Nov 2010 13:52:29
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Jan signings
Honda
A. Young
Cahill
Hulk
end of!
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Why would you want Ashley Young? He is not the type of player we need. We need a winger who can deliver a final ball, can possibly beat a player and is consistent and not just play well when they want to. Young for me is a no go. I don't think we need Cahill either, we have good quality youngsters for this position. Ayala definitely good enough, a young Alan Hansen in the making.
MUSHROOM
23 Nov 2010 13:49:05
You ARE having a laugh! Unfortunately, Chelski have better players than us and Carlton certainly wasn't a standout there. He's not even a standout in an awful West Ham team. Babel is a better player (although not by far) and if Roy is even considering buying C Cole he should save LFC 8m and put Ryan up front.
If we buy C Cole, I'm dropping my high morals and joining the 'we hate Roy' band.
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I wouldn't worry about that mate. Part of Camolli's job (although it hasn't been said) I believe will be to cut out the sh* e buys who just drain the club of money both on the transfer fee and on wages (and C.Cole is on pretty high wages from what I've been told).
Like Henry said, every player signed will be well thought out, will have to improve the team and will represent value for money, and I'd imagine that includes wages. Carlton Cole wouldn't improve the team, and at a reported £10m, offers no value for money. And if he flopped, we'd get about £4-5m for him.
C.Cole is Hodgson's target. But Hodgson should remember that transfers are now decided by a "committee", and Camolli is influential in the transfer policy now.
23 Nov 2010 13:42:09
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Jan signings
Honda
A. Young
Cahill
Hulk
end of!
23 Nov 2010 13:41:24
Personally, I can't see Liverpool splashing out on a striker in the January transfer window when we've been playing most of the season with one striker. People are talking about Llorente, Gomez etc. - Gomez would cost £15-20m and Llorente would cost about £30m.
Unless there are plans to revert to a 4-4-2 (which has been working). But then that means that either Lucas or Miereles will have to be on the bench or Miereles will move to the right which leaves lack of width.
Really confused about the whole scenario, what you think Ed?
{Editor's Note: A winger is the priority.}
23 Nov 2010 13:38:32
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Why oh why are people saying they want RAFA back?? ? i don't understand, did we ever win the premier league with him?? No we won the Champions League with a mainly Houllier side of which he survived the remaining 5 years at the club! he has now taking over at Inter the current Champions League winners & Ligue1 winners and is reportedly gonna get the sack because they are playing carp so why would we want him back. Its a new era for LFC and that should mean moving forward and establishing ourselves once again as one of Europes elite clubs. Rafa spent badly (some good signings i admit) and would be the last person i would like to see back at the club. lets get behind NESV and their vision for the future of our great club!
Coolhand LFC
23 Nov 2010 13:32:34
David N'gog is already better than Carlton Cole , and David Amoo will be given the chance .
1977
23 Nov 2010 13:29:53
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The players who nid 2leave dis club are poulsen, maxi, skrtel, konchesky, kyrgiakos mayb
johnson & not babel. .
Y.N.W.A
Editor please i want evrytin posted. .Thankx
{Editor's Note: Your wish is my command - but if you have English on the time table today, man you have to listen to what they say.}
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Not only does this guy need to listen to the English teacher, he needs to listen to himself. Babel to stay? That's more amusing than trying to read your English.
MUSHROOM
did ryan babel write this, he's a goner! fanx! !
23 Nov 2010 13:26:23
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Henry to play for Liverpool. . someone is having a laugh. I live in Spain and watched Henry in his last season with Barca, when he played which wasn't often, his legs have gone. It would be a step in the wrong direction if they signed him. He is fine for "American soccer" but the Premiership not on your life!
23 Nov 2010 13:23:57
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I carnt understand were new owners are coming from saying its going to be summer when they do ther work. ok i understand that if they start going about putting money everywhere then extra 5 or so mill will be added to player values. but surely we have to make 1 or 2 signings to give us a better chance getting into champions league. i see it that champions league is a must, if not we will fall to far behind. WE HAVE TO GET CHAMPIONS LEAGUE THIS SEASON.
23 Nov 2010 13:17:40
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Why doesn't anyone feel Carlton Cole willm perform better with a better team around him? How did we all feel about Crouch, before he came. I think C Cole could do a job next to Torres
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You ARE having a laugh! Unfortunately, Chelski have better players than us and Carlton certainly wasn't a standout there. He's not even a standout in an awful West Ham team. Babel is a better player (although not by far) and if Roy is even considering buying C Cole he should save LFC 8m and put Ryan up front.
If we buy C Cole, I'm dropping my high morals and joining the 'we hate Roy' band.
23 Nov 2010 13:12:04
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Hi, ed!I'm a South African Red.Sir, I'd like to ask you a favour.I want to learn more about the great Bill Shankly, so I was hoping you could post me a couple of sites you think would be of help.
I'd buy books if I could, but I can't as I'm not that well-off a fella.
I hear the man was one special bloke.So please, ed, I need such sites.Your help will be greatly appreciated.Thank you.
4evaRed
{Editor's Note: Aside from entering "Bill shankly" in to a search engine, perhaps Google, a good starting point may be: http://www.shankly.com/}
23 Nov 2010 13:08:42
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Lille midfielder Eden Hazard is subject to failed €22 million bids from both Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, according to Le Parisien.
The influential Belgian is seen as one of Ligue 1's top playmakers, and as such LOSC have put a price tag on his head believed to be in the region of €30m.
- can people now stop saying he will cost £15,000,000. You are quite far from it. But who knows a deal could already be done but its certainly not 15million its more like 25million
Harry5;)
23 Nov 2010 13:01:15
Love the concept of this site. The only problems I have with it are 1/ . the terrible spelling and Grammar 2/ . The repeat questions from different people asking for the ed's opinion. Don't people read it before asking questions?
Rant over, the boys are doing well, second form team in PL over last 6 games. Tough fixtures ahead but nice run of games over xmas. By Jan 10th should be in top 4.
Covo
23 Nov 2010 12:53:16
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Hi all.
I know we all don't want roy in the job. but he is. we can shout and moan as much as we like, but he will still be in charge until end of season i think.
under all the doom and gloom, i do dwell and wonder was rome built in a day. . i think back to the 1st season under rafa. there was some very disjointed and awful team performances. birmingham and city away come to mind. if he hadnt of won the champions league is 1st season would have been a total flop as we finished 5th and outside champions league. .
while am not a fan of the negative tatics, and i yearn for the attacking football i was brought up on. . how many of us now would take a scrappy season. and with some luck along the way a top 4 finish. .
what manager out there would do better with the players we have now. we don't have the strongest squad and we do not have strenght in depth. i know many want pacheco in the 1st team, but while he is not putting the effort in on the training pitch this will never happen. .
we also say torres won't stay if we don't bring the players in he wants. lets assess that too. torres recommended maxi. and yes while he is not playing too bad at the minute, would he get in the chelsea/ united/ arsenal side. my answer is no. so by buying players that others want is not really the answer.
We are liverpool, lets get behind our club/ players/ staff and lets do the best we have. this situation can be assessed at the end of the season, in the middle of the season is not the right time. we only have to look at the start of this season, rafa's 1st year, houlliers 1st season to see this. its a change of tactics, style of play. training, etc. . all too much for me. .
dont get me wrong i don't think roy is the right man, but i think we should stick with tradition
23 Nov 2010 12:52:50
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My Liverpool Team to play against Spurs.
Reina
Kelly - Greek - Skirtel - Carra
Lucas
Johnson - Meriles - Cole
Kuyt - Torres.
Kelly and Johnson to handle Bale. Carra might not be a left back, but Konchesky no LFC player. Kuyt to take some of the presure of Nando.
23 Nov 2010 12:51:21
So Ed, Gun to head time, knowing what you know where do you think we'll finsh in the league?
Rednose
{Editor's Note: There is no way to tell at all.}
Have an educated guess. . .go on
{Editor's Note: Fifth or sixth.}
23 Nov 2010 12:48:05
So Ed, Gun to head time, knowing what you know where do you think we'll finsh in the league?
Rednose
{Editor's Note: There is no way to tell at all.}
23 Nov 2010 12:28:25
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Ed, do you know why the last update to this site according to my computer was the 13th its strange because i know you have updated it since {ed's note - I don't know mate, sorry.}
23 Nov 2010 12:04:37
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Why does everyone all of a sudden want rid of Agger and Johnson. Agger is the type of cb we need. Plays good football (does not just hoof it like Carra), fairly strong in the air, good tackler.
And Johnson is IMO very good at his role. Which is to be an attacking right back. All of the top teams have one like Maicon, Alves, ramos, boswinga. . The reason GJ gets exposed so much is that often times we play with two centrehalfs who are almost immobile. If it was two of Agger, Kelly, Wilson, or Ayala in the centre then they could easily cover when GJ makes his runs.
We need to buy new top class players not sell two of our best. Does anyone agree? Ed what do you think?
Anfield Rapstar {ed's note - Agger I agree with, but Johnson is a liability off the pitch, regardless of what he can do on it.}
23 Nov 2010 12:03:30
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Ed what do you think on lavezzi for napoli? He's a little chunk but for the size of him he can run. I've watched him a few times and he likes to run at people. Even though he might not score 30 goals a season he will chip with more than a few but he creates a lot. I think if we could shed a few stone of him he would be class. Also I'd like to see arjen robben - might be a long shot but wierd things happen. On the last note, what has happend to the hulk rumours? {ed's note - Lavezzi is just like Tevez, except not quite as good, always a good player to have in your side. No thanks to Robben, too much of a cheat for my liking and injury prone. The Hulk rumours died down because he sorted out his differences and is no longer desperate for a move.}
23 Nov 2010 11:22:50
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Hi ed great site but i just wish u could vet people before they come on here! its like they are playing fifa or pes because they go on about signing this player and that player! i know its who they would like to sign and everyone is entitled to an opinion but come on lets get realistic about things.
Firstly as hard as it is to say we are no longer the club we once were , others have caught up and others have overtaken us !
Secondly we are paying the price for years of mis-management (not just the dark years of the tom n george show) but even before that when rick parry was slowly going about his business! We were run like a corner shop when teams like manure were being taken globally like a superstore.I know we have a massive worldwide fanbase but never seemed to tap into it and we are paying the price! I'm not saying milk the club every which way but we have to increase our revenue so we can get back to being a top team again.
Third and finally we have to have players that want to play for lfc not just coming here for a nice payday and taking the mickey just going through the motions.Me personally i think that there are only 2 teams that a player would rather go to and that's Real Madrid and Barcelona because their history is as good as ours and thy re also great clubs with philosophys true to our own of pass and move !
23 Nov 2010 10:54:24
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Whats wrong with Pacheo why isn't he being played?
23 Nov 2010 10:47:17
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I'd take raffa back with paco ayersten with him bring back the good times
What good times?? ?? ?? ? ?
23 Nov 2010 10:40:36
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Hi ed, , , have you any info on when suso might be ready for any first team action?
James {ed's note - in my opinion he is ready for the bench now.}
23 Nov 2010 10:31:30
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That sydney samm does look good ed? quick and very skill full plays leverkusen?and germany under 21's
{Editor's Note: The start of Sam's career at Leverkusen has started well.}
23 Nov 2010 10:09:17
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Where do some of these rumours come from I have no idea! Absolutely ludicrous! Johnsons learning Spanish?!?!? Fhs if he was he wouldn't let nebody knw because the media would make a massive issue out of it. And how on earth do you know? I reckon some people wake up in the morning and think "oh johnsons supposedly had a fallout with the gaffer. That must mean he's bought a house in Spain, got a Barcelona tattoo on his * * , signed his wife to learn bellydancing with shakira and started to learn Spanish!"
Can you fix it for me to do belly dancing with Shakira please - I'll give the tattoo a miss, though
23 Nov 2010 10:07:32
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I'd take raffa back with paco ayersten with him bring back the good times
23 Nov 2010 10:02:42
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If Honda is such a good player and the player that we need the most, why is he available for £9m. I have only seen him play once but if he was that good surely they could demand a much higher fee for him?
23 Nov 2010 09:54:27
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what would be ur first 11 if u could pick from any player we had from 2005- now here's mine reina, finnan, carra, sammi, rise, kuyt, mash, alonso, Garcia , gerrard, nando, please post this and cheer us up I'd like to c what other reds think cheers
23 Nov 2010 09:42:19
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Team to play against spurs should be
Reina
Johnston - Carra - Skirtel - Konchelsky
Kuyt - Meriles - Lucas - Roxi
Cole
Torres
We should try Cole behind Torres, he fav position
23 Nov 2010 09:09:57
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Line against Spurs should be
Reina
Kelly- - - carragher- - - skertl. . . Konchesky
Johnson- - Lucas- - -Meireles- - -maxi
Kuyt
Torres
Sub.cole, Kyriyakos, jones, poulsen, ngong, aurelio
-the combination of kelly and johnson would stop bale and will give us an attacking flair on the wing.
Personally i would prefer Aurelio at left back or left midfield but am sure hodgson is affraid to make too many changes on a winning side.
miccmak
23 Nov 2010 08:45:45
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The players who nid 2leave dis club are poulsen, maxi, skrtel, konchesky, kyrgiakos mayb
johnson & not babel. .
Y.N.W.A
Editor please i want evrytin posted. .Thankx
{Editor's Note: Your wish is my command - but if you have English on the time table today, man you have to listen to what they say.}
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Not only does this guy need to listen to the English teacher, he needs to listen to himself. Babel to stay? That's more amusing than trying to read your English.
MUSHROOM
23 Nov 2010 08:39:31
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Hope that this will be the team on thurs
jones
johnson kelly wilson aurelio
shelvey spearing
maxi pacheco eccleston
babel
saturday
reina
kelly(better than glen) greek(height for crouch) wilson(pace) aurelio
shelvey meireles
kuyt(hardworking against bale) lucas cole
torres
ed?
{Editor's I personally don't get tied up in doing teams as it just attracts a bunch of disagreeing posts - you know, Cole or Jovanovic etc.}
It does worry me when so called fans don't know the fixtures or when players are fit.
We don't play Thursday before Spurs we play the Thursday after and Spearing is out for 6 weeks.
EST.1892
{Editor's Note: I wouldn't let it worry you too much - the guy simply made a mistake.}
23 Nov 2010 08:22:43
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Inter want Capello to take over from Benitez, which'll leave the England job free, for Hodgson, which'll leave the Liverpool job for for Benitez.
23 Nov 2010 07:35:11
I think stop sayin babel isn't good, 4rm my own view i fhink his performance is far better than maxi, poulsen, konchesky though dey don't play in d same position but get more playin time than him.When we signed him he was strong, pacy, skiful & he has d ability 2score 4rm any position(remember d powerful drive against arsenal in champions league dat led 2 a penalty which steven.G converted, he also scored a thunderous goal against chelsea 4rm 35metres/ more wit petr cech in d goal post.we all loved him & we gave him d nickname SUPER SUB bcos weneva he get into a match he alwayz change d match 4good.But later rafa started puttin him on d bench 4 6matches without playin even roy & we expect him 2giv his best yet we gave lucas, konchesky, maxi, poulsen, skrtel, kyrgiakos, shelvy more playin time.Take a look at nani(man.u), walcot(arsenal), kalou(chelsea)pedro(barcelona) dey were all given d opportunity 2prove their mark even wen dey arnt doing their best.But d only opportunity we gave him is 2 WARM D BENCH &dats why van dervaart, huntleer, afellay, drenthe &elia turned us down bcos we they were we could change dem into a bench warmer.
The players who nid 2leave dis club are poulsen, maxi, skrtel, konchesky, kyrgiakos mayb
johnson & not babel. .
Y.N.W.A
Editor please i want evrytin posted. .Thankx
{Editor's Note: Your wish is my command - but if you have English on the time table today, man you have to listen to what they say.}
23 Nov 2010 06:24:08
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Hope that this will be the team on thurs
jones
johnson kelly wilson aurelio
shelvey spearing
maxi pacheco eccleston
babel
saturday
reina
kelly(better than glen) greek(height for crouch) wilson(pace) aurelio
shelvey meireles
kuyt(hardworking against bale) lucas cole
torres
ed?
{Editor's I personally don't get tied up in doing teams as it just attracts a bunch of disagreeing posts - you know, Cole or Jovanovic etc.}
23 Nov 2010 05:57:08
Ed why don't you manage liverpool instead i think you'll be a better manager than RH
{Editor's Note: Thank you for the kind words. However, after managing Porto, Chelsea, Inter and Real Madrid I am probably looking to move in to international management next.}
23 Nov 2010 04:26:27
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This sums up Roy's mentality:
After West Ham game he defended current form by stating "we've only one defeat in the last eight". Correct Roy - now let's take it a bit further. We have 3 defeats in last 10 matches, and 5 defeats in last 14 matches. Not dreadful reading, but draws don't win trophies do they. Now let's look at it from a winners viewpoint. We have won 5 in the last 8 (not too bad), won 5 in the last 10 (not too good), and won 5 in the last 14 (terrible). Look at form from a winners perspective Roy and you will see why the fans aren't happy - change your mindset or go and manage a less ambitious club - LIVERPRES
23 Nov 2010 03:41:05
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Why doesn't anyone feel Carlton Cole willm perform better with a better team around him? How did we all feel about Crouch, before he came. I think C Cole could do a job next to Torres
23 Nov 2010 00:50:00
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Hi ed i was just wondering who you would play right back against spurs to mark Bale. . .2 cases
Johnson would have the speed to stay with bale but kelly is a better defender.
I personally would play Johnson right back and kuyt right midfield as kuyt would track back!
Also ed would would you start with 2 up front? {ed's note - I would play Kelly, Bale has been shown up a number of times by right backs. If United's Rafael can keep him quiet then I would back Kelly to handle him.}
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Since Roy plays so defensive away from home, it would make sense to play Kelly there. I can see Roy playing Carra there actually - LIVERPRES
23 Nov 2010 00:04:36
Hi ed i was just wondering who you would play right back against spurs to mark Bale. . .2 cases
Johnson would have the speed to stay with bale but kelly is a better defender.
I personally would play Johnson right back and kuyt right midfield as kuyt would track back!
Also ed would would you start with 2 up front? {ed's note - I would play Kelly, Bale has been shown up a number of times by right backs. If United's Rafael can keep him quiet then I would back Kelly to handle him.}