Liverpool Banter Archive March 23 2017

 

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23 Mar 2017 21:23:17
I was in Helsinki to watch the City game and Sami Hyypiä was there too! What a top lad that guy is always willing to chat with the fans and shared some of his opinions too. As a finn i miss watching him in the red shirt, as he was top player but an absolutely gentleman on and off the field.

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24 Mar 2017 07:11:07
Model professional and a top class defender to boot, got nothing but respect for him.


24 Mar 2017 10:07:45
What a buy he was, best defender in recent history in my eyes!


24 Mar 2017 10:25:54
Legend, never been effectively replaced.


24 Mar 2017 17:12:57
Matip maybe?


23 Mar 2017 20:49:54
Hey Eds, I know this has been hashed several times. However, recent report claim we have offered Sead Kolasinac a contract for a free summer transfer. Is there any truth to this or just rubbish in the media. Cheers.

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{Ed002's Note - RTFP.}

24 Mar 2017 07:12:05
Ed002 has made is very, very clear that he will most likely be heading to Milan and that this will be announced once some minor hold ups have been seen too. Seriously this information is readily available on here, seek and ye shall find.


24 Mar 2017 13:02:36
Ed02 has said Kola will sign a pre-contract with another team that is NOT LFC so we can put that option to bed.


{Ed002's Note - Kolasinac has agreed to join Milan but there is a proviso that another matter gets addressed first. If that doesn't get resolved he will be available but Schalke still want a new deal.}

23 Mar 2017 19:20:09
Rhian Brewster scores two more goals for the England under 16s V Croatia, England have two more games in the next week, will he score again .

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23 Mar 2017 15:30:03
Ed1 not liverpool rated but interested to hear your views on buffon - "greatest Keeper ever? of the modern age? or just over rated? i've been having this discussion with a few of my mates who all claim him to be over rated and that the likes of neuer etc is better. just interested to hear your opinion on him, for me i think he's one of the best keepers ever but that could be down to playing in a defensive league etc.

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{Ed001's Note - defo 100% one of the greatest ever, despite having back problems for a large part of his career. A lesser keeper could never have continued at the top level like he has. He is better than Neuer because he does the old school stuff modern keepers don't do - organise the defence. Nowadays it is all organised by coaches before games, Buffon still does it himself and so can react to changes in opposition set ups. A true legend of the game.}

23 Mar 2017 15:45:41
He and Dino Zoff are my two favorite goalkeepers of all time. Closely behind is Lev Yashin and Kahn.


23 Mar 2017 18:06:21
Buffon is the greatest keeper there has ever been. Bringing up a defensive league is irrelevant, a shot saved is a shot saved.


23 Mar 2017 19:13:56
Buffon the greatest keeper of my generation hands down. I played in goal as a youth and I was coached to be the boss when defending set pieces, someone on each post everyone get goalside of a opposition player of similar size quite simple really . Zonal marking just seems complicated. The best keepers Schmiechal Seaman Goram Kahn all took charge of their box and the player who didn't do his job definitely knew it was his fault . I actually miss these commanding style of keepers.


23 Mar 2017 19:22:10
Make him our goalkeeper coach, migs might even become world class lol.


23 Mar 2017 19:09:10
I saw his debut at Parma in 1996. You knew Buffon would be special the moment he went toe to toe in his duel with a certain George Weah who was in his prime. He has not looked back since. He is still old school and fits the old school saying that GK's get better with age and surely he has. His heir apparent Donaruma, is not to bad himself.


23 Mar 2017 20:38:19
Speaking of Italian keepers does anyone know how Donnaruma is doing at Milan. There was a lot of praise around hi. Early on but haven't heard of anything since.


23 Mar 2017 20:40:22
Kevin keelan, unbelievable. Best save ever Jerzys last minute save 2005.


23 Mar 2017 21:01:07
Surely the black spider is the greatest keeper ever!


23 Mar 2017 22:41:15
I was always a Jean Marie Pfaff fan. Not sure how he was at organizing, but a great shot stopper, imo.


23 Mar 2017 22:34:53
Chatted to Buffon and Cannavaro in hotel i was staying in for weekend away in Glasgow when they were over for match against Scotland. didn't know it was the Italy base and day of the match there were hundreds outside trying to get in it was bizarre, anyway i digress Both were really nice and got photos etc.

What struck me was how humble Buffon was compared to all the other Italian players, he was not looking for the Italian or Scottish press and just hung about away from the cameras, I always remembe that fact that he wasn't a media diva, plus he's huge.


23 Mar 2017 22:41:56
Donnaruma is Buffon - 2.


23 Mar 2017 22:48:51
Jonesred, Donnaruma has been in top form for Milan all season. If you like, check the Juventus-Milan game played a couple of weeks ago. Milan lost 2-1 ( a dodgy penalty) BUT I can tell you that were it not for Donnaruma's heroics, it could easily have been 8 brilliant saves.

He was equally brilliant vs Juventus at Milan where Milan won 1-0. He is a very good reason why Milan are within a shout of the CL this season. Brilliant GK and one I would love at LFC even tho, I think if Karius can settle in well with a good defence in front of him, he can be great as ell.


24 Mar 2017 01:33:46
He was my idol when I was a young keeper. He's been a constant in the Italian national team for 2 decades, and just shy of that for Juventus winning just about every title he could along the way. He is the best in my experience of football at the least.


23 Mar 2017 19:56:42
Thanks ed1 i was sort of hoping ud agree lol i love him think he's been such a good servant to juventus and italy and i personally think he's one of best i've ever seen although i also think taffarell was a good keeper so what do i know lol.


23 Mar 2017 20:10:04
played for almost 2 years with a slipped disc didn't he? Guy must be made of steel as he wouldve been in agony.


24 Mar 2017 07:15:33
Anyone calling him overrated has zero knowledge in regards to football. He has played at the very top for almost his entire career, won pretty much every major honor he could win, stayed with Juventus when they were relegated for match-fixing and in general has conducted himself in an exemplary fashion on and off the pitch - absolute legend and certainly, in my life time (born 1984 - can remember football from like 94' onwards), one of the best I've seen.


24 Mar 2017 10:27:18
Lev Yashin - he was the best.


24 Mar 2017 13:04:57
Never really saw the "Black Spider" play, Ron BUT he was immense based on all I've read about him.


23 Mar 2017 13:30:50
Ray parlour. you nugget.

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23 Mar 2017 22:39:57
Well I suppose Chelsea, Utd and Spurs keepers are miles ahead of what we have but not sure Harts a big improvement.


24 Mar 2017 07:16:50
Hart isn't that good. We sign him and we'll still have keeper issues, Karius needs a proper run - what was the point of signing the lad if we drop him after an iffy spell? Honestly I think the way he has been managed has been cack-handed from the off.


24 Mar 2017 13:08:35
Hart is awful and if you don't believe me, watch his games at Torino (which I do) and you will see that his goalkeeping errors this season are almost in the doubl digits. Hart let in two goals last week vs Inter alone. The guy is hapless and not even better than Migs nor Karius. I think the "Old Boys Club" in the English media are just bigging him up hence, people won't bother watching his games cos frankly, people need to watch his games at Torino and see how dreadful he is.


22 Mar 2017 19:25:50
Ed 1 . In regards to yout earlier comments about academies being a problem. I completely agree. I feel the generation of the majority of players currently is extremely worrying. I've had to come away from coaching myself purely for the reasons you stated previously. Many years ago as a young player we had to work so hard to step up a level but nowadays it gets handed to you. It also stems before academies. Take my local club for instance. There used to be a 1st team, 2nd team and 3rd team. You would sign for the club and work your butt off to get to the 1st team and when you did you were so nervous about it. You would look upto all the experienced players around you and you would be worried that you might be dropped for the next game. Now they have a 1st team and an academy. and these academies are everywhere. They are full of youngsters who play with there mates and they're not worries about playing for the top team. Some of these players have such ability but the attitude is appalling. The generation these days are a nightmare to coach and they often make coaching un-enjoyable. It's a big worry. I've lost my track here now and I'm not sure of my point. Possibly the fact that this goes way deeper through to local football.

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{Ed001's Note - it is a problem, everything is given to people these days, they feel entitled. People should earn what they have, not be given it.}

23 Mar 2017 11:36:29
100% Xabi, young lads want to be footballers now for the money not for playing football. Don't get me wrong money has always been in football difference is If you signed for a club back n the day from cleaning boots doing jobs it made you think and realise what to work towards and you were more thankful and grateful if you got to the first team level.


23 Mar 2017 12:05:55
Xabi i thin your post is spot on in the most part i don't think the academies are the main problem although there are academies everywhere you look. I visited ajax when young and they took things to another level the way the sweep all under tens that they can off the streets to coach and also instilled discipline and learned them to achieve things on and off the field. Todays generation are spoiled i think in the main because parents always want their kids to get it better and easier than they did and they feel entitled (like arsenal fans today. lol) and don't know how to work hard for something. When i coached kids here they wouldn't believe it when i told them how hard myself and my friends worked to play, like a normal week when i was 15/ 16 would be school, part time job, train for my local youth team and the local irish league team, train for gaa team and three matches a week. I believe if kids had to go through half what we all did in the 80s they wouldn't be the demanding, over demanding brats that some of the kids coming through the academies seem to be today (well most seem to be) . sorry for the story just thought id share.


23 Mar 2017 12:25:44
Couldn't agree more, this is why I think England in particular have been so poor in recent years with youngsters thinking they have already made it. Look at Wilfried Zaha, rejection from England spurred him on and he's become twice the player he used to be.

Young players have lost sight of what it means to be a footballer and mostly just care about the lifestyle, problem is without a salary cap I don't know what else can be done about it what with social media giving players semi-celebrity status from their teens. It seems clubs are too precious about offending their precious young talents in case they move elsewhere (as is this generation) which in turn has damaged their motivation.


23 Mar 2017 13:23:48
As much as I agree to the general view, I don't think any parents would wish their kids to struggle and suffer to earn. They will want their kids to get into the best institution.


23 Mar 2017 14:30:48
Any parent with a backbone knows that their children will have to go through hardships to learn and earn in life, of course they would want that for them, it's the only way they'll survive, to be a wolf amongst wolves you need to be hungry less and less people are hungry nowadays. It's the same problem with English football at the minute, English players and managers aren't hungry enough to evolve and learn abroad etc because everything's nice and comfortable right where they are. Everyone wants the easy way out, that is the English mentality sadly.


23 Mar 2017 22:44:34
Nothing to do with mentality. They are paid handsome money. English managers and players have always been average to below average over the years. Lacks quality precisely.
If the Money ball shift to Italy or Spain you could see the players and media moving there.


24 Mar 2017 07:34:44
Don't talk tosh Harry. England have had some unbelievable players even just in my generation. Ferdinand, Terry, Ashley Cole, gerrard, lampard, scholes, beckham, Owen, fowler, Rooney (until about 5 years ago), Adams, seaman, gascgoigne, macca - I'm sure there are others.

In terms of what Ed has said, he is 100% right. (Most) kids nowadays don't have to work for anything, haven't heard the word no enough and as a result are self entitled. It isn't about making your kids go without but learning the value of earning something through hard work and patience. This scenario only becomes further exaggerated in football where there are 17/ 18 year old earning vast amounts of money.


24 Mar 2017 11:12:02
Look at Barcas academy.

It has nurtured the finest players in the world saving the club millions in transfer fees

I think it's the way the young players are integrated to the first team that is the problem as there is a huge difference between them

Hopefully we will take a big step in solving the problem when the academy and first team are all in the one facility.


24 Mar 2017 13:09:48
Dermot, that has not stopped Barcelona from spending near a billion pounds in the last 20 years in the TW, either.


 
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