Liverpool Banter Archive July 23 2012
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23 Jul 2012 22:45:27
portugal allez is the best song in football, we should sign moutinho and oliveira and belt it out before every match
You'll never walk alone not good enough for you then?
REDditch
I always thought You'll never walk alone was/is the best song in football sung by the best fans in football for the best team in football(ok a little tongue in cheek on that one)but we used to be the best team in football
You cant beat a ;youll never walk alone;u need ur head checked if u think some portugal song is better.every time i sing along in anfield i get goosbumps.what team is it u follow?
red dub
23 Jul 2012 22:40:15
Did we replace steve clarke as assistant manager?
Yeah with Colin Pascoe.
Really? How big is the rock you've been hiding under?
I think BR brought in his assistant manager from swansea
23 Jul 2012 22:35:11
Suarez to juve for 18m + krasic.
The money will be reinvested and combined with a possible fee for Carroll.
Just a prediction.
I just can't see Suarez staying, any hope he had vanished last week after his little outburst back home about united.
Plus he is too heavily linked with juve now.
They are talking like he is already their player and I am sure he was spotted there recently, maybe the eds can confirm if I have just made that up or if it did happen.
But I do believe if Suarez is sold we will keep Carroll.
MIKEY
Hasn't krasic just signed for fenerbache mystic meg?
loving your work!
I think Carroll will go and Suarez will stay.
Give one example of when they have spoken like he's already their player - what have they said? Do you talk to the people at Juve often?
Krasic is away to fenerbache lol sorry about spelling!
Suarez is worth 40 mill at least so suarez plus 18mill for krasic is bull s****
Who do you support? mikey
18m i think your a we bit short there.
23 Jul 2012 22:14:35
Edd are you doing a fantasy leauge this year. Lemme no STEMLOCC1 {Ed001's Note - I never do one mate, I don't have time for them but some of the others might, if they do I will get them to post up the details on all the sites.}
23 Jul 2012 22:02:13
All this negativity is not right Think about are transfers in this way
If we keep Carroll he is a very good player
If we sell him we can buy someone for 20-25m maybe jovetic m.suarez someone like that
Allen is a passing master and is only young wiv the right handling will become very good
Dempsey scored 20+ goals last season from midfield and that is what we were missing
If we offload Adam spearing and downing for the right price who knows we may even get another winger maybe Ramirez afellay or Mirallas
We also have many great youngsters ready to come through
So if we keep are main players and buy the players I have said then we shld be in for a gd season so stop wiv the negativity
Signing allen would hinder the development of suso who imo will (if given the chance) progress to be a better player
Why is it, when anyone questions something, or makes a statement others do not agree with, then its suddenly 'negativity, muppet, troll, idiot' etc.
I think the 'real negativity' is something far more aptly described as being English.
Get some sun folks, and stop moaning and groaning about life and everything, on your Mud Island!.
LFC fan who is not a negative person.
I don't think it will hinder Suso at all, who will get game time this season. Gerrards playing time wont be far from finishing after this season and a future midfield 3 of Allen, Lucas and Suso would be exciting with Shelvey, Henderson, Coady and Teixeira also in the mix the future in that midfield department looks promising.
Looking forward to seeing Suso this season as I think he is the youngster most able and ready to breakthrough this season. I also think he would be great alongside Allen.
kidmillions
Suso will become a better player however Allen wouldn't hinder his progress because suso isn't quite ready to play every match yet and that's what allen will try to do Allen is effectively replacing Adam suso will get some matches but it's highly unlikely that he will start every game
Allen is not a passing master.
23 Jul 2012 21:58:07
hi eds just looking for ur opinion on this one. do u think we could keep carroll and suarez or do u see one of them leavin in this window.thanks
irish red {Ed001's Note - one or probably both will go, in my opinion.}
We can't lose both why do you think we may sell Suarez ed01? {Ed001's Note - because he can't be trusted to do as he is told.}
I wonder how much abuse you got for this. i am in agreement with you and i don't really care if both go although i'd like them to stay. we all thought keegan, torres, fowler, mcmanaman etc. were irreplaceable and all were replaced even rush was succeeded by aldridge for a spell. the point is suarez and carroll can be replaced and if suarez is going to disobey direct instructions not to speak about the incident then he can go, just squeeze every penny we can out of juventus in the process.
derryred
My concern is that a few tweaks is turning into a major reshape. This takes time to implement. Still positive and excited, just a little lost as to the plan but quite comfortable with that feeling at the same time.
Andy K
100% correct ED01.
He acts like a spolt child, who is constantly 'indulged' by everyone around.
23 Jul 2012 21:55:47
Ed...I don't want to raise the Luis Suarez question but if he goes, who would you think would replace him? Do you see anyone in the market who could realistically replace our true world class player? I don't want to see us doing a repeat of selling Alonso only to find out that the replacement is nowhere near Alonso's class. {Ed001's Note - what is world class about a striker who can't hit the target?}
Ed001 are you saying suarez isn't world class and can't finish because the lad is pure class its players around him that drag him down at times.
Neilp {Ed001's Note - he is clearly not world class, he is on the cusp, but any player that wastes so many chances is not world class. Nothing to do with the players around him if he is missing easy chances, it is to do with him. He did improve as the season went on, cutting back on his diving and whinging to the refs, but he is still no way world class. He can be, but he isn't at the moment.}
Suarez has yet to prove himself.A hand-full of good games does not a world class player make,i agree with Ed001 !! B
Any idea what his goals to chances/shots was.
I totally agree with ED01 here, he is just not a good finisher.what good is a striker who can't finish.
If he is not world class than I wonder why the champions of Italy have decided to target him and Van Persie?
Hi! ED01 : Have to disagree with your take on Suarez. Van Persie has just hit a hatful of goals this last season. ( only scored 63 goals in his first 5 seasons with Arsenal.) So to say Suarez can't finish is probably wide of the mark. Suarez has joined a club in a massive upheavel and transitional period and even with the language and culteral differences has still managed to score at a faster rate than Van Persie did in his first few years at Arsenal who have always had a settled manager and non of the upheavel we have. So give Suarez time to play in a settled side and environment and then the goals will flow, imo.
kidmillions {Ed001's Note - difference is RVP was playing in numerous roles in the Arsenal side and in and out through injuries. Suarez came in and played well, then has proven incapable of behaving himself on and off the pitch. It his only his fault that his form suffered.}
ED i just believe he created so many chances... and none in our team equalled his level(in creating)..he couldn do one touch football with most of liverpool team. suarez was quick.he came good after the ban.just my thought though but he has to keep his mouth..ushhhhhh
snap it! {Ed001's Note - yes, but he was almost exclusively creating those chances for himself and then wasting them.}
I may be biased ad i'm a Uruguayan Liverpool supporter, but just cos Suarez had an off season for Liverpool doesn't take away the fact he is world class .he needs tweaking but he is better than cavani for example . Most uruguayans would swap cavani and forlan for Suarez . Keep up the good work peeps.
I think his performances for Urugay show he can score a bucket load. I think he'll show us what he's really capable next season if he stays.
Hai..ed..suarez is not world clas....so can u name few world class players in our team now...gerrard and lucas exemption... {Ed001's Note - no I can't.}
23 Jul 2012 21:42:33
'In Rogers We Trust' ..........?
Get real we don't trust until he earns it !
Clemenza
But we can pan him before we've played a competitive game?
Why did you miss what he did with swansea ?
derryred
What he did at swansea ? we are lfc we want/need more than that , i will back him ,he needs all the help he can get but he has a very hard early season against the top sides . he needs better players than the ones he is linked with, remember roy h and the players he was forced to buy they were players he knew from previous teams he managed and look how good they turned out to be . red mick tag
23 Jul 2012 21:40:48
after watching the Toronto game i was impressed with the future players that were on show not only in attack but also defence we have a great crop of youngsters coming through and although they will not all make it there is hope for the future, i thought that Samba and Wisdom had a good first half Wilson did ok flannagan and robinson also had good halves. you have to see that we are looking good and the future is bright. well done the youth system.ray3037
It's sama! Not samba. Not being funny but let's get our own players names right ey?
Jimbob
Yeah i thought sama didn't do himself any harm at all.
derryred
Cherno samba. Is he still about?
REDditch
23 Jul 2012 21:27:20
Well eds
I have been a great follower of the site this past few years.. Have great respect for the work yous do and crap yous put up put can't help to notice that this year has been very quite even on post that have been posted and that there doesnt seem to be many eds this year Ed2 seems flat out copy and pasting his answers.. Is it just that no info coming out of anfield are lack of intrest from past eds...
Would love to know
Hope u can post
Cheers
Keep up the work
Faceman ynwa {Ed001's Note - 002 keeps notes and copies and pastes from them, like I should do really, but I always forget to note stuff down. As for the rest of us, not a lot is leaking out, all of it is coming from other sources and it is just luck if I get something related to Liverpool from elsewhere. Most of what does come from elsewhere, well it would be fair to suggest it is similar to the nonsense we hear everywhere. It is good that it is this way, from the club's point of view!}
23 Jul 2012 21:18:56
I would just like to say. F**k me the future is bright for us. Some of those youngsters are a pleasure to watch. Imo the most likely manager in this league to give them a chance in the first team is Rodgers and I for one look forward to it. Next season is gonna be awesome and I'd be happy with suarez, pachecho and borini, with Carroll and Morgan for backup. If I had to choose one player to leave it would have to be Carroll, not because I don't like him or think he's crap, I think the opposite but the guy needs and deserves first team football with a team that will play to his style. I wish he never left Newcastle as I'm sure many would agree.
Cudge
23 Jul 2012 21:18:38
Will Rogers hang onto Aqualani due to the arrival of Borini, both are Italian and former Roma players.
This isn't Ultimate Team mate
BthekingB
23 Jul 2012 21:17:55
Everyone is moaning about us not buying these over rated "world class" players that yet to prove them selves in the premier league. But think about newcastle last year did they buy any world class players? No and yet they was doing well but fell at the last hurdle. Now compare our players to Newcastle they don't have a reina agree skittle Johnson Gerard Suarez?! We just need to to make some minor re adjustments and we will finish right up there. So many negative posts on this website!
No but they have a Tim Krul,Colloccini,Cabaye,Tiote,Spiderman,Ba,Cisse.So lets not shout too loud eh lad they have good players.
kopping a feel
Agree skittle made me laugh.
In all honesty our team is much better than Newcastles, I can't see them having a better player in any position (Maybe Ben Arfa is better than Downing). I think next season we'll show just how good we can be.
And they call Geordies deluded!
23 Jul 2012 21:13:04
Anyone trying to say Allen would be a better buy than Lucas is absolutely deluded and knows little about football. Allen passes very short differences and therefore has a very good pass completion rate but really, it only matters if those passes lead to goals or split defenses, so PLEASE DO NOT COMPARE TO XAVI INIESTA OR PIRLO they are on a completely different level. Lucas can beat a man, do skills and produce moments that make you go 'wow', this is the type of player we need (obviously someone cheaper) and Allen is not that player. I can guarantee if he signs, there will be not one moment that makes you go 'wow he's really something', hes not that type of player. He's another young british player who everyone gets excited about because hes played one season in the premier league for a mid table team and done reasonable well (Henderson). He hasnt set the world elite, the league elite or even been the stand out player for that team, so why should we pay 15m?
But anyway, i hate united as much as anyone on here, but I wont sit here and say Lucas Moura wont be a big success in the prem as he really is quite special!
LJ
So if anybody dare disagree with your opinion then they know nothing about football? I'm not disagreeing with your post but i always find this comment very peurile, this is a banter page and people are entitled to have their own opinion on football and footballers!!
MR EM
I haven't seen much of Joe Allen to give an opinion on him. But I agree with you about Moura mate. I've seen more of Moura than Allen. If United do get Moura (I think they will) they could be getting a special player.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
I think Moura has potential to be world class, but is very selfish unlike allen
I've supported Liverpool since 1959 and also played at a really decent level myself for twenty years till I was 35 and then me and some of the lads I played alongside took up golf and talked footy all the way round and we still do to this day and all of think Joe Allen is a cracking player and in todays market? Well worth the money being quoted.
kidmillions
Moura looks ok, but Oscar looks like the real deal. Unsure about Moura adapting to premier league football, but we'll see I suppose
Milamber
Kid millions i have been going since 1959 , did you go in the boys pen or in the ground when you could walk around to the other end at half time , i played as well ,great days.red mick tag
23 Jul 2012 20:59:23
Sorry if this has already been asked. Would Borini qualify as a home grown player?
DAR
He was at Chelsea for 4 seasons, all while under the age of 21. That fufills the length of time criteria with a year to spare, so unless I've missed something, yes he does qualify as home grown.
- Something Red -
4 seasons and he did not make it hope he is going to make it with us ?
Do you know who Alou Diarra is? He's a French player that didn't make it at Bayern Munich as a youngster, and then we signed him for free, and kept him for nearly 3 years without playing him. So that's two clubs he didn't make it at between the ages of 18 and 23. But he's now a regular France international with 44 caps. He's not a world-beater, but he'd definitely be good for our team if he was here now.
Just because someone's not playing first team football at a Champions League club when they're 18 or 19 doesn't mean they're not ever going to be good enough.
Troll harder, bro.
- Something Red -
23 Jul 2012 20:11:43
hello eds... just wondering how much info you had on this documentery that is going to be shown on 5 and fox soccer? i'm a little worried really as i dont think we should be having cameras about the training ground and in the changing rooms at this stage in the clubs transition... i believe we would be best left alone for a couple of years... you know what the press is like in this country...one wrong word in the changing room that accidentley gets broadcast... and then we are lower than a poo on
the floor of the ocean! it seems silly to bring more attention to the club,when we're not ready for it.... i'm really worried about this doc
! could be a big distraction!
anyone else think too much of a distraction?
maffer...
I think the intention of the documentary is to change the percieved image of LFC. We have received too much bad press from bias support so this can only do us some good.
23 Jul 2012 20:08:07
To those who are giving hell to brendan rodgers regarding his pursuit for joe allen, let me tell you this boy will be a superstar. He has been dubbed as the english version of xavi. He may not be sneijder, xavi, iniesta, pirlo etc. which we want in our team but remember we are liverpool football club! Remember this motto "we make stars, we dont buy them"
I agree the only thing is he's welsh
Not to be pedantic,but joe allen is welsh,not english.so who ever dubbed him the english xavi,dont belive them.
red jay
Agreed
Rob
One problem he is welsh so cant be the english version of anyone.
I thought LFC was about football not magic making stars my Ar*e
23 Jul 2012 19:41:15
looks like Ryan Babel is leaving again. Any chance of a return to Liverpool?
23 Jul 2012 19:11:46
Hazard to Chelsea---Overrated player who shone in a crap league, I predict a flop
Lucas M to Man Utd---Young, unproven, even worse league than Hazard, Next Anderson in terms of how he will work out
Oscar to Chelsea---Same as Moura but i think he might be slightly better
Kagawa to Utd---The only player i rate highly here but he still might not work out.
Giroud to Arsenal---1 awesome season in the same crap league as Hazard, Ngog mark 2 but costs more
Now lets get on to Liverpool
Allen---Good season in the best league in the world, is Young. With 93% pass completion, a player who will slot into Rodgers System effortlessly.
Dempsey---Years of experience in the best league in the world. Off the back of an amazing premier league season, 17 goals and 4th highest scorer. Old but wasn't Gary Mcallistar and we know he was class. For less than 10 Million and guaranteed goals will show good return.
All those pessimists need to get behind the team and support Rodgers. If not go support Utd & Chelsea, we don't need fans like you. Good luck Rodgers. YNWA!
BobD1994...
Very well said mate...
Stevie
What's that saying about rose tinted spectacles...
Gav
You clearly know little about football
I kind of agree, however you seem ightly biased. You hav basicly said all of the signings of our rivals will flop because of the leave they play in.
Suarez signed from Ajax, and in my opinion the Dutch league isn't any better than any of the above leagues and he's done fine and there are plenty more.
Finally, I'll get slated but I don't agree that the Prem is the best league in the world anymore. I believe the Bundesliga and La Liga are both of the same standerd and if not higher in La Liga's case.
Just my opinion.
Rob
"Years of experience in the best league in the world". La Liga is the best league in the world by a mile. Kent Brockman, Channel 6 news.
Anyone can put their own spin on things. Look: Allen - Good season with Swansea might not be able to make an impact at Liverpool.
Dempsey - 1 good season with Fulham but had a terrible shot per goal ratio. Won't have as many shots for liverpool as he did for Fulham therefore not as many goals.
Even though I feel Allen and Dempsey will improve our squad and they are good signings, I have shown that I can say anything to make it like we are doing good/bad business like you have.
BthekingB
La Liga is the Scottish league (inc Rangers) on steriods. Two teams in for the title every year.
1st: Real Madrid---100pts
2nd: Barcelona---91pts
3rd: Valencia---61pts
4th: Malaga---58pts
We have the best league in the world by far. I may have sounded Bias and some of these players may succeed. but how about
Kezman---PSV to Chelsea
Taibi---Venezia to Utd
Veron---Lazio to Utd to Chelsea
Shevchenko---Milan to Chelsea
Postiga---Porto to Spurs
Anderson---Porto to Utd
Marlet---Lyon to Fulham
We'll wait and see
BobD1994...
What made you think EPL is the best league in the world?
It is the most watched league in the world but that doesnt make it the best league necessarily.....
LiverBird
La liga best league in the world only if you support barca or real madrid so do not be silly channel 6 news
Deluded.
roan
Only 3 teams have a real chance of winning the premier league roll on the fair play rules.
If you calling La Liga the best league in the world then you need to rethink again. every year its about the same 2 teams fighting for everything. Look at their points difference compare to others. EPL is by far the best league in the world, its most exciting and full of life. When was the last time you got so excited about which team will win the league in La Liga? its always the same sh#t year in and year out. La Liga the best league! please give me a break.
Finesse - Seychelles
La liga has two of the best teams in the world in Barcelona and Madrid which if the same teams were competing in the EPL would be favourites to win it. However the most competitive league is the epl, 3 or 4 teams are always playing for the top prize, another 3 or 4 teams competing for the champions league 4th spot. Relegation spots always seem to go to the last day which makes the epl that much more exciting than just real Madrid vs Barcelona. If you where to throw Valencia into our league they would struggle to finish in the top 6. The football is more exotic in Spain but in england its quicker stronger and alot more rivalries.
23 Jul 2012 18:58:40
Milos Krasic apparently on the verge of moving to Fenerbahce for a little under £9mil. It's a good deal in my opinion and he should do well in Turkey. He might even turn a few heads next summer for a move to the Premiership/La Liga (where he wanted to go this season), where he will most likely be another Italian league flop.
If he did move to Spain next year then I'd predict Malaga or Villareal would be most likely to place bids, or if England, then I'd say Newcastle, Villa, Everton or Sunderland would be most likely for about £11-12mil.
The relevance of this post is that he will not be used in a player plus cash deal for Suarez, who is aiming on repaying the fans for their constant support after the racism charge last year.
M.D.
He just isn't that good, end of
23 Jul 2012 18:56:09
Hi eds just thinking that maybe Dembele would be a better option than Dempsey. I'm not saying Dempsey is not Liverpool standerd its just age and ability for 5-10 milion more might be better.
Good player, but we need goals and Dembele provides little. Dempsey is the man!
Papa G
And its better than allen, and try 4 tiote if can
I really rate dembele as well fella. 15 Million for Dembele and Dempsey and I would be happy with that.
Having said that would those players stop our younger boys from getting a game. Interesting problem for Rodgers to have..... I genuinely believe that Suso, Sterling, Sama,Pacheco and Jonjo should be involved in first team affairs next season.
jonnybarnes89-90
23 Jul 2012 18:05:11
Firstly I am not a negative poster... However ha! I would lose no sleep over Aqualani and Cole leaving IMO they have shown nil when I have watched them both at LFC and elsewhere. I think the positions they hold in the club deserve more, they are Masch or Alonso in seniority if that makes sense. I think Hendo, Spearing etc deserve patience not the others as they are established internationals who should be stand out now... Potential doesn't come into it with them IMO they should go and spearing, Hendo be allowed to develop as Lucas, skrtel have... (this means in and around squad and start on merit this is what we did with the other two and they are reaping the rewards now in mid 20s) Over time and if they don't work out over 18 months then move em on then. But for me I expect much more from Alberto and Joe... Not for me and no extenuating circumstances I'm afraid.
Spearing is in his mid-twenties
I agree i don't think people have seen these two play apart from friendlies or in a crap french league when they played competitively for the club they have been far from good.
Ruben
Same mate.
Aquilani offers nothing.
Cole at least has a better attitude but his skills do not justify his wages. Not by a long way.
MIKEY
I disagree i think aquilani will/could be class if given the chance under BR he has a excellent passing range can shoot he just lacks the defensive side to his game, really needs a chance in the side. something you must admit he hasnt had.
scott derby
23 Jul 2012 18:04:59
i heard that liverpool were ment to have some exciting news to relise before rome match any ideas? {Ed022's Note - Yes, FSG are selling the club back to H+G due to the recent hatred aimed at NESV, as it seems clear the fans wish for unstable ownership and for the club to eventually die.}
Ed I cannot agree more with the sarcastic response you had to that post, I dont understand all the complaints about FSG when they are clearly trying to run the club responsibly. All of us fans need to give them a chance to further prove they are taking the club in the right direction. YNWA
Great reply ED..... it me smile on a Monday. I do not understand those so called fans who are so negative with FSG.
And I for one welcome our new owners. Kent Brockman.
Hicks and Gillett...what a nightmare! We've come a long way since those jokers almost destroyed LFC. Thank God we have serious owners who have learned from their early mistakes and are taking a more involved approach to owning LFC. I'm confident we have responsible owners who have now no set any unrealistic targets to BR but will support him to reach a top four place. It may not happen this season but I really believe they now know what they're doing.
Well said Ed. The morons on here who claim to be fans ought to be ashamed of themselves, dragging this club down with all the negativity that they spew out about the owners and Brendan Rodgers.
You'll Never Walk Alone? I think I would rather walk alone than with some of the snakes who post on this site.
Red Machine.
Love it, Ed022. Judging by quite a few on here, I wouldn't blame them!
Quality put down Ed022... :-)
Stevie.
Agree with you Ed022.Someone made a mistake and now they're getting slaughted for it along with NESV. I'm sure the person who did it feels pretty remorseful and hopefully still has a job because you can bet he/she will check their facts out fully before putting anything out for public viewing next time.
If there is one.
Are they actually selling the club? {Ed022's Note - Yes. They sent me a private message on Bebo last night to tell me, but it's supposed to be a secret.}
Ed22 then why chelsea man city or even teams like psg can spend better then us may be you have forgoten hicks and gillet downfall was not only debts but lack of funds for transfer market remember its easy saying they are responsible owner name few clubs who don't make loss every year football its not business for fans its passion if we don't finish top4 as soon as possible then will lose our pride and will be even harder for clib to get back. No club has ever achieve trophys without spending even great bill shankly spent look at barcelona they are one of the best club in the world and one of the best accademy but still they spent to be competive can you say confidently we are going to finish top4 next season {Ed022's Note - H+G were fans of splashing cash that they didn't really have on players, rather than investing it into the club in other ways that'd create stability. Now, although they 'backed' Rafa in the market, they really had no clue how to run a football club. Now, if you look at Manchester City, their owner is splashing ridiculous cash in the market, but then he realised he needed to think of the club as a business and needed to stabilise it - thus investing heavily in the clubs 'behind the scenes' as we'll call it. The same for Abramovic. Money is one thing, but intelligence of how to stabilise a football club is a whole new ball game -excuse the pun.}
We all support lfc and want the best for us ,lfc and fsg . i am mystfied by fsg as they do not appear to be the professional out fit they want us to think they are . but no body is perfect and they need our help as it is a team game not just on the pitch but off it, get behind them and support every thing about lfc . we do not know the real reasons why they bought us but the truth is they saved us and we have the chance to revive , and get the sucess that we all want . ynwa red mick tag
Love you Ed002.
Any chance I can turn you away from the dark side and welcome you to LFC?
Thought not. Any truth in the Carroll to Chelsea for 60m just coz roman fancies it? Thought not either...
BigBadBen
23 Jul 2012 17:48:42
If Luis wanted to leave our great club then fine! But if the club were willing to except a penny less than 40 million pounds I would seriously have to start havint doubts about their reign at the club, a world class talent like him ! And his national team mate cavanini havin a 70 million price tag put on him by napoli,just think some of our transfer dealings have been very poor of late wit all the other clubs holding us to ransom and makin up pay way over the odds for players , we should as a club start to do the same for any of our top players who wish to leave ,thanks ed great site as always {Ed022's Note - Cavani will not cost 70 million, it is media garbage.}
I would like to add that if manu do pay out 26 mill for unproven Moura hen i agree we shouldnt let Suarez go for less than 40 mill. Were looking at the Player of the tournament (copa america). Look how many outstanding south Americans he was up against to Win that.
23 Jul 2012 17:26:48
Anyone seen the boy Sinclair who plays for our u18s he is only 15 I think and he has scored 5 goals in 2 games . Infact I think that we have some very talented players in the team . It's all good news for our future .
On a different note Do you think if the owners spent big this summer and we were to get into the CL that would be money well spent . My point is spend big now and reap the rewards at the end of the season would like to know what others think .
Cheers
Good luck Toni silva YNWA
Jamesy
Look how that turned out last summer......8th place!
I am sure Leeds had the same philosophy mate. Spend big and the rewards will come later.
A similar approach was made by Portsmouth as well.
MIKEY {Ed001's Note - and Rangers.....}
Agreed I watched the highlights of the last U18 game on LFCTV and I was impressed with what I saw, they were just playing another U18 team which didn't have anywhere near the same standered of players though...
Rob
Yes but think most of us agree that KD signed players for to much money and British where as we could have signed better players from abroad who cost less but are technically better IMO . 8th place is where we finished but think we could have been higher if the signings where right .
Cheers
Jamesy
23 Jul 2012 17:22:20
Eds will the rest of the squad that are joining up be available for the Roma game? {Ed022's Note - I don't see why not.}
23 Jul 2012 17:02:28
Hi eds, how come replies are shown rather than the 'click to view' format? ta' {Ed022's Note - As we received feedback that people preferred it this way.}
Good job - makes it easier to read and search for keywords IMO
Gav
23 Jul 2012 16:50:12
Hi Eds, aside from Sterling and Toni Silva, are we likely to see any other youth team/reserve players leave on loan or permanently?
I'd personally like to know about Morgan most, Brendan Rodgers was really talking him up after the game vs Toronto, do you think he was doing so to attract attention from other clubs to loan him out?
Thanks. {Ed022's Note - I don't know why people are saying Sterling will be loaned out, as its completely wrong. The rules of the game state that no player under 18 years of age can be loaned out to another club. Unless someone else can enlighten me on a random rule change in the space of 3 weeks?}
Why did Rodgers suggest loaning him out then Ed022?
GLfc
23 Jul 2012 16:06:29
Eds,
While we are waiting for the transfers to come up and also for the league to start, why not just zap across to barclays fantasy premier league and register your fantasy team. See below for some available leagues to join:
PRIVATE CLASSIC LEAGUES:
Football Fans United Premier League (FFU PL) - Code: 184896-53863
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Private Head-to-Head leagues:
Anfield Lovers Premier League: Code: 184896-53888
Champions Football Fan Club (CFFC) Code: 184896-53932
And if anyone knows any other leagues I can join, please post the names. I would love to join as many as possible. I can bet that this season would turn out more interesting that anyone ever could imagine.
O'seunfunmi (Anfield Red) {Ed022's Note - If I remember correctly last year we Eds created a fantasy league between us and you posters.}
23 Jul 2012 15:25:35
Eds, am I right in saying that Raheem Sterling's contract expires at the end of June 2013?
Iced Red {Ed022's Note - I'm sure he'll be offered a new contract soon.}
23 Jul 2012 15:20:42
eds do you anything on William McLaren,, lots of sites stating we have seen him play on the internet and offered him a trial is it true?
basy {Ed022's Note - No idea.}
23 Jul 2012 15:20:30
Hi I have a question about lucas moura... I. Pretty sure last year we where chasing him , and I read that because it was Sao paulo Liverpool had first choice on him. Well I did read it, so I'm assuming was that a lie? Or rumour?
He's going to be a sensational player were ever he goes eds, and man u have not dropped any interest in him since last year.. So why have we? He is a wizard down the flank and can be a marque signing, I think we should go all out for him. And keep raheem sterling he's also a great player.
What do you think eds?
One last point about Kevin Mirallas any concrete stuff on him and Liverpool? He looks great ..
Thanks
Baz {Ed022's Note - There is a profile on Moura which covers most stuff to be honest. He's a good player, no doubt about it, but I question whether he'll be able to cope in England, as I don't think he will. Last year Liverpool enquired for him and were quoted 130 million Euro's. That was the end of the interest.}
23 Jul 2012 18:02:28
Me along with others are surprised to see Toni Silva leave , specially to Barnsley , no affence. But is this because of his attitude problem ?
Why are you surprised? He obviously wasn't good enough. If you can name one kid we let leave the academy who could walk into our team now then your argument has some validity?!
No it is because he is not good enough and wants more action; just look at the fact Barnsley were the only club interested. Nuff said.
Ben {Ed001's Note - that's not true, there were a few League 2 clubs interested.....}
23 Jul 2012 17:34:54
The kit for the last two seasons was the worst kit that i can remember. With this kit we look more like what Liverpool should do. That kit was the kind that promoted teams wear. It wasnt even bright red!
Hopefully this new kit will see the return of the good old times
Hounsred
But I hate the away kit.....
Agreed, all my mates that support other teams have said the kit looks the best in the league. Quoting them they used the phrase 'hard' which I'm sure you know the meaning off lol.
Got to admit I hate the new kit.
The old kit wasn't great in fairness, given it was just a red version of Chelsea's kit.
But I will never undertand why football shirts need collars.
My favourite kits of recent years have been the 06/08 home kit and the 05/06 reebok kit with the gold trimmings
Rob
I love the home and away kits, 3rd kit not so much.
Completely disagree! I loved it when it first came out, was not sutre about the coller but it won me over, then when I went the Liverpool 1 shop to get a kit for each of my boys, I thought it looked orange, my wife said the same so we opted for the away kit instead. I much prefer a blood red colour - it gives a stronger impression.
Also I'm well peeved with the new warrior kits, the kids have only worn them twice and they have pulled and bobbled. Don't get me wrong, I no it may not be that important to some but the older reebok/ addidas kits were lived in by my kids and lasted well, these new ones look a bit iffy and there not cheap.
Any one else found the same?
23 Jul 2012 17:31:32
Nice little bit in the echo tonight about Morgan hope he makes the grade
Morgan should start the match he looks class.
23 Jul 2012 17:15:55
Channel 5 announces that 'Being Liverpool', a six-part documentary series about Liverpool Football Club, will air this autumn.
Being Liverpool, a six-part behind-the-scenes documentary series about Liverpool football club is to be broadcast as part of Channel 5's autumn programme.
The programme will give viewers unique and "unprecedented access to the club, the players and the management team" at Liverpool, according to the broadcaster.
Being Liverpool will offer an insight into the inner workings of the North-East football club, who finished 8th in the Premier League last season.
The documentary series will begin with the departure of former manager Kenny Daglish and the start of current manager Brendan Rodgers's tenure in charge, and will also examine the pressures that players face in the modern game. $tiger jay$ ynwa
North East you say...?
North West...
Liverpool is in the North West of England !!
North East?!?
Jimbo.
Sorry im not christopher columbus but arent we in the north west !
If you're going to copy and paste an article, at least correct the obvious bit that mentions Liverpool being a North East club! Well, not unless things have changed recently! Other than that, I can't wait for it to be aired. A pity it wasn't on one of the bigger channels.
It starts around the 16th of September or something mate, there is a trailer on youtube if you want to search it!
North east?
Sounds like ch5 lol
MIKEY
North east??
FowlerisGod
Never, eat, shredded, wheat
We are an Island ;¬)
kidmillions
Is the New stadium being built in the north east?
23 Jul 2012 17:10:43
In your opinion if Carroll leaves will we sign a replacement or just use Borini and Dempsey?
I would assume if Carroll was to leave and we singed Dempsey on top of borini that we would go in for a Winger that plays on either side of the three up top. But I see Carroll staying
In terms of pure numbers in the 'front 3', we've had Kuyt and Maxi out, Borini in and Dempsey arriving. Now Carroll out would suggest we might go look for another one, epecially since it'd leave only 2 senior strikers (Suarez and Borini), with everyone else being a winger/inside forward. Of course, maybe Rodgers thinks 2 natural strikers is enough and reckons Cole or a youth/reserve player will pick up the slack in terms of just pure numbers.
What I would say is if both Carroll and Suarez leave, I'd think it highly unlikely we wouldn't sign at least one striker.
- Something Red -
23 Jul 2012 16:42:26
Any player that doesn't want to play for us can shove off and whistle .... No one is bigger or better than LFC.
If players dont want to play for our badge and show some commitment then jog on .... We the fans would give everything we have to play for the team....
We don't earn 45-100k a week, we live in the real world where we struggle to pay the bills.,,
So .... If any player want to go then GO and stop taking the mick out of us ... the fans!
VK
I don't earn 45-100k a year.
I agree... Wouldn't ya just LOVE to know who clicks "Disagree"?
Stevie.
What if he can't whistle?
solidair
Why would anyone disagree with that? Even if you were to support a different club the same should apply. Nice comment mate
I live in the real world and I'm loaded :):)
kidmillions
He can use a vuvuzela!
I'd give anything to play for the team, but I'd hazard a guess at you lot probably would give anything for me not to...
I ain't particularly good
:-/
Rob
23 Jul 2012 16:22:40
I dont think we're too far off from competing for top 4 again. I believe we will come 6th minimum with 4th a minor possibility.
What we must do is hang on to Reina, Agger, Lucas, Gerrard and Suarez.
Johnson can be a major success in this formation and so can Enrique if he stops hogging the ball too often.
If Allen signs then we can expect to control possession in the middle of the park with him, Lucas and Gerrard/Henderson, the more of the ball you have, the less chance the opposition have of scoring.
Rodgers also needs to get a final check on the commitments of some of the bigger players i.e. Skrtel, Aquilani and Suarez.
Skrtel im not too worried about as Coates is a ready made replacement, great player. Nor am I worried about Aquilani although he would fit amazingly in BR's system. Its Suarez im worried about, I think he should stay until January and assess the direction were moving in, then decide.
Anyhow, Im sure BR would make good use of Skrtel-£20mil and Suarez-£30mil+
one player I really want to see is Kevin Mirallas. The belgian team has come leap and bounds in recent years and he is one of the main movers. Great control and dribbling skill along with the ability to play across the front three. Available for around £7mil, a steal imo.
If Carroll leaves for around £20mil then buy Dempsey.
Midfield: Lucas, Spearing, Allen, Aquilani, Gerrard, Henderson, Shelvey.
Forwards: Mirallas, Downing, Borini, Dempsey, Suarez, Sterling ?
RedSox69
Downing needs to go....
Bosco
Liverpool are miles away from competing for the top 4. Especially if Allen, Dempsey are the sort of players you are chasing. The usual top 3 will fight it out for the top spot and the likes of Arsenal,Spurs, Newcastle will be fighting it out for 4th.
£20 million for a centre half?? Give your head a shake and £20 million for carrol? Deluded mate.
Second poster: why all the negativity towards Dempsey and Alan? To Prem proven players.
I suppose you want Lucas Moura and Oscar to u proven teens from brazil who wouldn't know what hit them on a rainy night away at the brittania etc.
Have faith
Rob
Bosco needs to go
23 Jul 2012 15:59:47
Why do people keep bringing up United and Lucas Moura in regards to us being after Joe Allen?
If you've watched Moura play, you'd know hes weak, very lazy, and a post op transexual is better in the tackle department.. or perhaps its unfair to bring up Robinho?
I swear 90% of these Brazilians flop in the premier league to compensate for not being able to flop in other departments! I'll stick with the one exception in the league at this moment, Lucas Leiva :)
YNWA! (Adam)
Well said, how many technically gifted brazilians have done well in the EPL ? none i can think of, and Lucas is not your typical brazilian footballer
And if Liverpool had a chance I'm sure you'd say exactly the same!
Bitter much?
Gav
Ramires at Chelsea isnt bad
Agreed, Man Utd ain't got the best of records when it comes to brazilians , and south Americans,kleberson,Veron,forlan,Anderson.
And Ramirez ?
Ricardo JF96
Don't make me laugh, Lucas Moura is class you can not deny his ability. I am jealous as we are after average player in Joe Alen and Utd are after pure class.
So your trying to say Allen is a better buy than Lucas. Get real, when lucas came on for a short period he caught my eye, Allen played for the whole came and did pretty much nothing but pass the ball from side to side and added absolutely nothing to the attack. Anyone can do that but not everyone cane run with the ball beat players etc. And how can you say hes weak the other day I remember him holding off two defenders while dribbling...
Agreed I think Ramieres is a good player, a very un-Brazilian Brazilian like Lucas.
Maybe that's the kind of player that works in the Prem?
Rob
23 Jul 2012 15:53:22
Hello fellow Reds..
I just felt like sharing some views on the Suarez situation. While he is a talented individual it cannot be denied he can be a petulant drama queen. Last season he missed 8 games at a vital time in a (harsh) ban for racial abuse and his shots to goals ratio was among the worst in the prem. Alot of the games I watched he wasted about 3 chances you would have seen Fowler, Owen or Torres score. So as much as a shame as it would be to see him go I think 25-30 mil would be a good price which we could re-invest in a goal scorer. Add that to the expected 20 mil for Carrol and that's 50 mil for a new strike force which might actually get 20+ goals between them unlike the current. Personally I would rather have Suarez and Carrol go than Agger who was immense last season. Also I hope BR looks at a ball holding winger or 2 this summer as that's the area our attacks tended to break down.
I believe BR is the right man to drag a team too preoccupied with the past into the modern game and whatever happens this is going to be an exciting drain. Borini is an impressive signing who will only get better with age and good on BR for not having given in on wages (the reason we can't be as strong in the transfer market as previous years). Let's all be optimistic, do what we do best, and support our team. Leave the critics "support" Manchester or Chelsea.
In Rodgers we trust! Now is the time to go forward and with or without Suarez or Carrol, that is what we shall do!
Red-David-26
A ball holding winger? The whole point of a winger is to make things happen by attacking the fullback
Good post mate
KJS
Well said! BR's philosophy is for his team to win possession within seconds of losing it, and Carrol have shown no apptitude for this style of play.
We bought him for 23 million. I wouldn't accept anything under 35 mil or 30 mil and a Giovinco.
BthekingB
Check out Van Persie's stats in his first 3 seasons at Arsenal. Suarez has made a much better start than he did. People forget that Suarez is new to the culture, language and premier league. Because he's such a fantastic player, people think Oh yeah! he's settled in very quickly? Which is not true? It is just that he's a class act that you think that.
He's arrived in England at club in a major transitional period and done remarkably well. So next time you criticise his finshing skills consider this and realise we've not yet seen the best of him.
It took 4/5 seasons for Arsenal fans to see the best of Van Persie and that's with a settled club and manager.
kidmillions
Your comments won't prove popular I'm sure but I agree with all of that. I do think Suarez is well over-rated. Not sure why (he is rated so highly), presumably because he is our only flair player.
Smart post. Agree Agger would be a bigger loss than LS or AC. 50million for the pair would not be a bad return given their goal total last season! Just hope BR has the transfer acumen to spend wisely if it does happen and we dont get another Downing or Adam esc situation in which we go charging in and get held to ransom for a mediocre at best player by a wiley chairman!
LiverBob
Suarez was at his best in the first six months when he arrived. He didn't score many himself, but he must've either assisted, or been heavily involved in 10-15 goals, mostly for Kuyt and Maxi. I know he scored goals at an obscene rate for Ajax, but I think in this league he's best playing a free role to act as a creator rather than as a finisher. In that role, I think very, very few players are as good as him. We get a finisher to put the chances he makes in the net, and all will be right with the LFC world.
Whether he should leave or not is simply down to one thing for me: Is he prepared to let the Evra issue go? Regardless of whether you think the ban was right or wrong, or whatever your opinion of how the club handled it, the club have now decided to let it go. That means, if he's to stay here, he has to let it go too. If he can't accept that, for all his talent, he has to leave.
- Something Red -
23 Jul 2012 15:45:15
If we hold onto most of our players, excepting Downing and Adam. And that Borini makes Aquilani feel like staying. Rodgers aquires one more of his targets: that is not a bad team.
I suppose it all depends on FSG's wage policy.
Rodgers will have to adapt to the players he has rather than insist on a new playing system.
We have some players that must leave, the likes of Joe Cole, Adam, Downing... & Carroll who can leave depending on the offer.
I believe Cole is crap now, finished,
Adam is too slow and pass and move doesn't suit him,
Downing, with a disappointing season behind, his crosses would be of very little use and we need wing forwards not that much of an ineffective goal shy, non productive winger.
Bosco
Just what I've been waiting for, "not a bad team"
I think people are being a bit quick to dismiss Downing as not suited for pass and move. Yeah, he's not an agile, tricky winger/inside forward in the same vein as someone like Ben Arfa. But he's not a complete one trick pony either and he probably has better touch and passing than most of the current squad.
He may not play every week, but he'd be a good player to have around, and he's probably not one of our top-earners. Unless we got an offer that saw us recoup most of our £20m, I'd hang on to him.
- Something Red -
23 Jul 2012 15:32:01
Cheers Chi-paul ! yeah lets say young, well compared to some of the people on here :P
I am sterlings biggest fan, i was literally screaming in kennys ear to put him on against fulham towards the end of the season. Yet, i see alot of people praising his performance in the friendly, and i disagree, i think we are looking with a lil bit of tinted glasses...
Dont get me wrong, he will be a world beater, hes an amazing prospect. Just think he needs to work on decision making....alot of the time he ran into dead areas, and lost the ball.
Yet other times he beat his man and got the crosses in so i can see why people are praising him. let me quote a man who sterling has been compared too.
"youve got to hold, and give, but do it at the right time....you can be slow... or fast, but you must get to the line "
Benny baller
Good post lad. sterling was average against Toronto compared to what he can do. i hope he is handled with care this season and be patient with him.
Red Rout
I assure you Sterling is a lot better at football than James Corden.
BthekingB
Great to see considered and knowledgeable posts from a 'younger' fan Benny, especially one who knows the words to 'that' song!
YNWA
BigBadBen
And im sure youre funnier than james corden....
Benny baller
23 Jul 2012 15:30:14
Honestly, the best buys Rafa had was Skrtel and Agger. Costs us less than what Dalglish spent for Adam. It would be disappointing for them to leave now when we are in the midst of a transition, which makes me believ that the players are willing to give another season before decing their future. And for those lamenting that the mancs got a 'great' deal for lucas, remeber Diego?
KOPZRY
Isn't Skrtle Liverpool's most expensive central defender in history? Might be wrong, but am pretty sure. But, you're right, he was still a good buy. Agger is the real deal, just the injury thing. The less he is on the treatment table, the better we will do. Maybe future captain, IMO.
Nick
I disagree. Rafas best signings were Pepe Reina, Xabi Alonso and Mascherano - oh and Torres.
Gazman
There are plenty..xabi alonos...the name itself will cost you 30 mill....fernando torres...rafa once said during 2008-09..liverpool got a bid for 100 mill for this hitman..
Rafa has built the foundations for this team having not spent much on them to be fair. Reina, Skrtel, Agger, Lucas. He helped make Gerrard the player he is today too.
Nick - At the time, yes, but I think we've since paid more for Coates.
- Something Red -
Dont forget rafa's signing , Luis Garcia i dont think he got the credit he deserved he was a cracking plyer who scored important goals for us and created chances from nothing, however he had a problem with consistancy which maybe with his age is why we sold him
What about Glen Johnson - £17m. Surely must be our most expensive defender?
JRG
Get over Benitez, the man almost dragged this club to ruin, any good things that man supposedly did can be well and truly forgotten.
John B
23 Jul 2012 14:46:04
Great debate on here , below , ( 08:16 today ) about wingers . Feel free to contribute .
Best crosser I saw in English football was Alan Woodward of Sheffield United , saw him make his league debut at Anfield ,
in 1964 I think .
Any suggestions from eighties and nineties , just for a bit of light relief .
Barnes/Mcmanaman aren't bad shouts
Ruben {Ed001's Note - Nicky Summerbee had a fantastic cross on him, shame the rest of his game and his attitude was so poor really.}
John Barnes.
John barnes
Steve Guppy, for Leicester & Celtic. Fantastic crosser and never beat a full back in his puff! Just fired it across early and let Sutton and Larsson do the rest. All Larsson ever had to do was reach it and hit the target.
Someone was talking recently about the big man/little fella combination. Keegan & Toshack grabbed my attention as a kid, but Stevie Heighway played a huge part in their success.
English or english football? cause i wana say steve finnan!
Benny baller
Downing........Oh wait.....
FowlerisGod
Boniek and Barnes
Chris in tamworth
Stewart Downing.... oh wait, you said best crosser. Sorry ;)
Jolly Red
Hate to admit it, but Beckham was a very good crosser of the ball.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Hate to say it but Beckham could put it on 5 pence piece! Can't remember the last time we had a good crosser of the ball, Nicky Summerbee is a quality shout!
RR!
Patrick berger
Sorry mate, forgot about the eighties, nineties bit. I thought that Patrick Berger was a good crosser of the ball too. Nowhere near Digger but still had a sweet left foot.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Marshall Oldham lovely locks aswell
I know I'll get hung drawn and quartered for saying this, but I alway rated Andrei Kanchelskis when I was a kid.
davethebutcher
Hurts me to say but hinchcliffe could swing a ball in.
cobra
Ginola was quality.
Stevie highway
Hate to say it guy's but Lee Sharpe had an unbelievable left foot and was a mighty pain in the a**e when we played them.
Wow i dont think i've ever experienced such blatant bias in my life.
Just because you all support LFC doesnt mean you cant mention that famous english number 7 that used to play for Utd who had one of the best crosses on the planet.
How can Beckham be overlooked?? Astonishing. {Ed001's Note - or perhaps you just can't read, he was mentioned.}
Gary Crosby at Forest, used to cross by most the forward line
Or franz Carr? He couldn't cross a road let alone a ball!
Best crosser is probably Beckham... Although hate to write it!
Dirks Engine Room
Craig Johnston
How has nobody mentioned Gary mccalister?! He could put a ball wherever he wanted!
SM91 {Ed001's Note - he wasn't a winger though!}
Callaghan,Heighway,Barnes,McMannaman were all superb players.
kidmillions
He was far from the greatest so I'm not surprised he hasn't been mentioned but when I was growing up I remember a couple of seasons when Nolberto Solano could put the ball on a sixpence
Red Ollie
Not a winger but has played Right Midfield (as Beckham did); our very own Steven Gerrard - just as good as Beckham if not better IMO (at crossing I mean).
I wouldn't be able to think how much a John Barnes in his prime would cost in today's market - amazing player :o)
Hoola {Ed001's Note - yes, but I meant why he hadn't been mentioned!}
Gareth Bale. Don't like him much, but he can whip a cross in at pace far better than most current players.
23 Jul 2012 14:31:44
In the light of the EPL commencing soon, this means epl fantasy! Now how's picking who from "Liverpool" so far? Im going for agger Suarez and Borini... Everybody else? Ps This is to move away from transfers for a bit and to hopefully get some positivity back on this site!
YNWA!
JS
Don't want to be negative but don't go for suarez just in case he leaves!
redkenyan
Not choosing anyone from Liverpool until the first 5 games are out of the way. Then I might go for Borini as I think he'll score a few this year. MarkB.
Torres,Aguero & Borini
Steve Heighway and Peter Thompson for me, although I thought Coppel was very good for that lot down the east lancs.
ND
Johnson, gerrard, dempsey.
ri red
Johnson and Borini.
BthekingB
Skrtel and Suarez for me!
FanfromIndia
Aguaro Cisse and Rooney/RVP
George best and i am a big lfc fan
From the Current squad Borini, Gerrard, Agger.
Cuchulainn's Hounds
Who's the best player you've ever seen at a live game? not on the telly.
George Best is the best footballer I have ever seen.
Seen him a couple times at Anfield and a couple times away a Old Trafford in the sixties. He truly was a great player, unstoppable.
Forgot to sign that george best thing eds
kidmillions {Ed001's Note - for me it could only be God, Fowler on his day was a genius, different kind of genius from Best, but a genius nonetheless.}
23 Jul 2012 14:30:09
eds is moura really goin to united? {Ed002's Note - Try the MUFC page.}
Aii they have confirmed is interest im sure when the wages and price are open the clazers will run to the hills.unless nani leaves.
Who cares ?
Who cares?
Cuchulainn's Hounds
23 Jul 2012 14:15:07
hi eds and other reds. this is more a rant than a rumour. so i just red that united are in for lucas moura. again a world class player ....im getting pretty sick and tired of us liverpool fans backing our club to the bitter end and our manager/ owners wanting only to sign the adam's downings and allens of this world. i know were not really a top of the perch team like we used to be but nor were city or chelsea. but they spend big and get premiership crowns and champions league trophys. i mean honestly how high do you think we can finish by only adding to our team with the likes of borini and possibly dempsey/allen? ive already got my shirt and am booked up for the reading game in october and to be honest i dont really have the money for it but i do because for i love our club and i feel that we all give our hard earned cash out for the bosses only to use it on medioca players. its time to reach for the stars and start adding some to the team sheet everyweek! would you agree eds? ok rant over. YNWA. van shep
How old are you? Get a grip. You said it yourself, "I know we are not really a top of the perch team" so what makes you think Lucas Moura or any other media hyped 'star' would want to join us? I don't go to the games and I still have a better idea about how football works. Makes me wonder what goes through some peoples heads? Nothing sensible in 50% of the tosh I read on here. What are you hoping will happen if you moan on here, FSG will suddenly magic up £50m and seduce him to join us instead of Man Utd, Chelsea or City etc... just cos you've had a moan? MarkB.
Lucas moura is 19 years old..... So how can he be classed as world class? Stop ranting n get behind our team or go n support man it'd if u like Lucas moura that much......
Craig
We all want to win but we dont want to end up like leeds do we.
This is the kid who got on the bench of their Olympic squad BTW, behind Oscar, Hulk, Neymar and a guy I have never heard of, he must be great.
Ben
Guys I am pretty sure van sheep wants the best for the club so do we all but I still feel the slightly similar to Van. I will support my team even if they buy konchescy back but i still feel we should go for young enthusiastic players like ramirez instead of demsey or nico gaitan or Rodriquez instead of Walcott.
Dude... There are 20 more Lucas Moura's in Brazil... My partner for about 6 months funded a Brazilian Platform that managed about 40 young players, 15-21yrs of age. He hated the fact that it was never about the players skills, attitude etc, and in reality its about how much you are prepared to kick back to the coaches agents etc... Brazilian Football is extremely sketchy, a lot of guys get farmed out to Asia and Eastern Europe to then make the move to The Spanish, French, Italian and English leagues. I think I read somewhere that they export about 1000 professional players per annum. My handyman is an ex flamengo junior! He came to US to play in MLS, blew his knee... and now he does DIY etc... {Ed022's Note - This comment is very very true.}
FSG spent 302 million on our club M8t and they didn't transfer debt to the club like the Glazers did! They then hired the fans choice for Manager rather than appoint their own man and backed KD with nearly £100 million in the transfer market. It's only my opinion I know but I reckon they've earned a little time to run the club how they feel will produce success in the long term. GED
Haha Leeds.
Rob
23 Jul 2012 14:10:43
I would like just to see players with more hunger, whom want the ball and also have pace. Signed.
Kuyt , Maxi we're coming to the end.
If Skrtel doesnt wanna renew, sell him and replace with Kjaer or Hummels perhaps? and bring in Coates more and more.
Still dont like Spearing even after the Toronto games, and Aquaman if he actually come and said i wanna play of LFC would be good for us he can pass !
Charlie Adam is just to slow, and he aint no Pirlo to sit at the bottom of the midfield 3, i expect that maybe Steve G's role as he starts to slow down.
Aqualini, Shelvey, Downing, Henderson, Lucas , Gerrard , then we need 1 more with Maxi gone, Spearing not good enough.
Borini essentially replaces Kuyt , AURELIO AND MAXI trims off more wages, but we still need another inside forward now.
I think BR is just assessing everyone first and after the tour we will make more moves
Spearing is twice as good as Aquilani. MarkB.
Cole has lost it hasnt he chelsae knew what they were at not offering him the deal he wanted.
Spearing twice as good as aquilani? Get off it.... Aquilani has better passing in the mole of his left testie.
As the lovely gentlemen above pointed out, Spearing isn't worthy of lacing aquilani's boots in terms of quality, he's got more heart and loves the club no doubt, but so do I an I don't play for Liverpool.
LFC1802
23 Jul 2012 14:01:31
I for one am trying to take the positives from all the speculation about our best players being linked with some of the top clubs in Europe. If the likes Suarez, Skrtel, Agger, and to a lesser extent, Carroll to A.C, are all demanded by teams currently more highly rated than us, then surely if we keep hold of them we have the basis of a team to match those so called bigger teams on the pitch, especially when you consider that if Lucas had continued his fine form, no doubt he too would be coveted in the same way. and we have quality players in the form of Reina, Gerrard and Johnson, who would all be valued by these 'bigger' clubs if they were available.
23 Jul 2012 14:00:14
Eds, who would you say is better. Daddy or Chips?
Chips with daddies brown sauce. Best of both worlds (unless you're one of Erik Estrada's or Larry Wilcox's kids. Then you also have the best of both worlds).
Cuchulainn's Hounds
23 Jul 2012 13:59:29
Good afternoon peeps,
I see alot of people are talking about making bigger signings than Allen and Dempsey. I dont think people realise football is very money orientated these days. Bigger signings is optional for clubs like Chelski and Man City but i think we need to concentrate on making smarter signings.
We are being linked to a whole list of players nearly every day, some of which include:
G.Ramirez, Muniain, Tello, Sturridge, A.Johnson, Walcott, Demba Ba, X.Alonso ... Etc
Think about the amount of money spent last season. £100mil is ALOT to spend on players that were interesting prospects but seemed to leave it behind after joining LFC, (Downing, Henderson, Carroll, Adam). In fact, not inculding Doni as he played all of 5 mins last season thanks to Reina, our best signing was sombody who cost us nothing!
I doubt that FSG are going to invest another £100mil or even £50mil for a season or so yet after the state of the transfers recently. Therefore the money we will be getting for transfers will be a small amount, thrown on top of whatever we can make from selling players. At this point it would like to say, im not sad to see Kenny go, im sad to see Kenny's season end a bit short of where most LFC fans would have wanted. Still a Legend!
I would like to see Dempsey and Ramirez join the club as we are in desperate need of Forwards/Wingers. Other than that like most other LFC fans i hope to see some more from our youngsters and i wish Brendan all the best in his first season!
Cmon you reds!
Josh LFC
Agree with all of this, well said. MarkB.
They didn't invest £100 mill, they invested £30 mill, coupled with the fact the incoming players agreed contracts less expensive to the owners than the outgoing players.
You only have to listen to that spiv Werner with his rhetoric. Initially they were winners who do what it takes to win, now they have a longer term project in mind, which has involved opting for Rodgers with his background in youth development, to turn the academy players into a premiership winning team over the next few years.
Ozone
Ozone (and a few others)- you continually say this but seem to ignore the ~£100M losses the club has had the last 2 years not related necessarily directly to player transfers.
Should FSG just throw more money at the club anyway for big name signings? And should they eat these additional costs themselves because they're just super nice fellas or would you like them to place the debt on the club like the Glazers?
I'm just curious what exactly you expect them to do?
Invest in a bit of quality to compliment the youth development and get the balance right.
Ozone
Spot on ozon let's be honest we need some quality players or else team like everton or wigan would be in top4 coz they buy young/pontential players and still end up mid table fans have to understand without spending we can't compete. The proof will be next season when will finish outside of top4
Is this not exactly what the owners have been doing? As you say 30+M so far and another 10M+ for Borini this window with more likely to come.
23 Jul 2012 13:46:07
Hi Eds,
I have heard that we will accept a £13m cash bid from Newcastle for Carroll as long as the £7m we owe them for Carroll is wiped off as well. Have any of you guys heard this?
MUSHROOM {Ed002's Note - No.}
As Carrol has a sell on clause we will end up just giving him back
Surely sell-on clauses are designed to be an additional uplift for the selling club if the player increases in value. We would be seriously stupid to have agreed to a sell-on clause which can be activated even if the players value a) Halves in 18 months and b) It's the club who mugged us who wants to buy him back from us !!!!
If I'm wrong on this then I really will start to get worried about how are club is run.
PieInTheSkyMan
13 mil is a fair price for Carroll as we would be taking him off your hands. It is not the first time teams have bought players that have turned out to crap.
Look at Newcastle, there has been so many over the years, Luque, guvanche, dahl tommasson, anderson, carl court, etc etc etc, the problem with Liverpool is you bought a whole bunch at the same time.
Carroll would not have the same pressure at Newcastle to perform, the weight of the Liverpool faithful is on his shoulders with a massive price tag around his neck...
Ask Villa fans and they will thank Liverpool for buying Carroll as it deflected the attention from their own Turkey ie Bent.
You have 2 choices, 1 cut your losses and sell hime to Newcastle for 13 mil, otherwise risk having him sit on your bench until January when a 10 mil bid will probably be accepted, 2 hold on to the player and maybe even play him, who knows BRs style may suit the big man after all...
Toonal HWTL
23 Jul 2012 13:43:27
Breaking: FSG to let Steven Gerard leave after its is decided his monthly wages are too high...
Lol. just kidding..
Some very good determined thinking from BR by stating clearly his strong intention on keeping Skrtel and Suarez, sigh!.... at least we have a smart coach who would not fancy selling our best players unlike the damn owners.
Bosco
Maybe you should get rid of Gerrard? his wages could pay for half your squad... Cole too for that matter!
23 Jul 2012 13:41:54
Hi eds, is it today that rest of the squad join up with the team in the USA? I.e Carroll, borini, johnson etc
23 Jul 2012 13:35:19
Again stupid move letting silva's contract run out, he is the player at the reserves that is most ready technically and physically {Ed002's Note - It is a free transfer as I understand.}
23 Jul 2012 13:34:12
Few questions,
1. How much did FSG buy Liverpool for, and did they pay off all our debt?
2. How much is Joe Cole' and Aquilani's wage? I'd like to see them stay but I wouldn't be surprised if they were on a combined £150k plus.
3. The other day Sky Sports said Man Uniteds had the highest revenue of any sports club in the world, we weren't on the top ten however I'm sure we were a few years ago; does anyone have any idea what sort or money we are raking in a year?
4. Would Joe Alan count as a home grown player in the Europa league?
5. Am I the only person who thinks Carra is very very close to hanging up his boots?
6. Did we ever come to an agreement with the council over plans to redevelop Anfield?
Cheers Eds or whoever can answer these.
Rob {Ed002's Note - (1) Circa £300M and yes except working debt. (2) Not really a matter of discussion and complicated by signing on fees. (3) £185M in 10/11. (4) Yes. (5) This will probably be his last season. (6) It is in hand.}
Cheers Ed002, your depth of knowledge always amazes me. No sarcasm intended genuinely impressed how much you know.
Rob
23 Jul 2012 13:24:50
Hi eds can any of you please tell me where caughtoffside and other sites keep getting this 20 million for Darren bent rumour surely this isn't true especially for 20 million
Thanks for your time CDM {Ed002's Note - I have no idea where they get it from.}
CaughtOffside pull stuff straight out of their holes mate.
- Something Red -
23 Jul 2012 13:13:57
Ed who would you say is better gaston ramirez or james rodriguez? {Ed002's Note - Better at what?}
Ed who is Better at dribbling and skills, I think rodriguez has a better finish? {Ed002's Note - That I would not know.}
Better at ballet
Pairs.... i challenge anyone
Tommy
Ramirez is better overall, he would cost less, work alot better with Suarez and borini which boosts team chemistry, and to put it simply I doubt James Rodriquez would be content at liverpools calibre whereas gaston Ramirez would be.
23 Jul 2012 13:13:36
luis suarez is class!! if we could buy carol for 35m why would we sell luis for less. If we want to finish in top 4 thats our goal he has to stay!
23 Jul 2012 13:13:11
Chelsea r buying hazard, Oscar, Marin, lewansowski. Man united r buying kagawa, loucas moura. Liverpool r buying joe Allen and clint Dempsey. I think it's about time we all accepted the fact that we are a mid table team now and the Americans are not and will never be willing to finance transfers with their own personal funds. Gerrard is not the player he was and I'd be suprised if Suarez and skrtyl stayed at the club. Sorry but it's true.
Chelsea are not buying lewandowski and man utd have yet to but moura. if you are so concerned go and support one of them, simple, a bit loke your football philosophy. if you watched the game against totonto you will see we do not have to spend a fortune on these so called "star names"
FSG should sell up
I suppose you've seen Oscar, Marin, Lucas and Hazard play 100 times and know everything about them and how well they will do? You don't have to buy big overhyped players to do well. Let the people in charge who know what they are doing to worry about transfers.
Take a prozac mate, then leave another post, sick and tired of all these negative depressing people leaving crap posts
Real post.........thank god!
yes we can do well without buying top players..........but with what we have...fsg should have bought 2 TOP quality players...just 2..striker and a winger..and that would make a huge difference..mentally and physically for lfc..but...as we can all see..its not happening
Why do u think LFC are anything like chelsea or manutd? 1 is european champions the other is goal differance away from 19 premier league titles. LFC are rebuilding from the bottom up , have some patience. we`ve tried throwing money at it season after season, its failed. A bit of tweaking with the squad we have and we can get top 4 and progress from that.
To the 2nd poster it was only toronto mate there not exactly a good team are they so get real.
How do you expect us, having finished 8th in the EPL, to attract players of the same worldwide fame as United (2nd in EPL) and Chelsea (CL winners)?? The fact that we can't attract these players at the moment reflects our performances last season, not our performances in the future. The smartest thing to do is to buy younger, less well-known players who have the potential to become world-class; Rodgers is clearly trying to do just that in signing Allen and Borini. Dempsey would be no bad signing either considering he scored 16 league goals and was voted the Premiership's 4th best performer last season. The teams who we are aiming to catch - Arsenal, Spurs, Newcastle - would all be improved by having him in their squads. With a much-lauded young manager, a clear and functional style being implemented, and players like Borini, Allen and Dempsey coming in, I'd much rather be a fan of Liverpool right now than of Arsenal or Spurs, who both look certain to lose their best players this summer. I'm fed up of pessimistic fans, I could try to convince you otherwise til the cows come home but if you're just going to moan then eff off and support United or Chelsea if you're so impressed by their signings.
Red Ollie
Spot on mate, that's exactly where we are.
Ozone
To the person that said 'it's only toronto mate' and we played our first team did we? Look at the factors that played a part 1. We didn't field a first team, 2. Played a team that are currently mid season, 3. new philosophy has been put in place for the 3rd time in 3 seasons (hodgson then kenny then Rodgers). 4. If we fielded our first team we would've schooled toronto. No doubt you got schooled too. YOLO :)
You miss my point. i know it was "only toronto" as you put it but the strength in depth shown and the display by some of the guys shows we do not need to spend stupid money on these so called super stars ! who on here actually knows much about moura etc. its like the snowball effect, people mention ramirez but how many people have actually seen him play very much
24 Jul 2012 18:02:44
Chelsea's transfer policy is woeful basically Abramaovich buys who HE wants and the manager is left to try and assemble a team.
23 Jul 2012 13:10:55
Joveic 22m if carroll gos
23 Jul 2012 13:00:34
I have been an avid follower of this site for a few years now and haven't posted until now. I wish all the doom-mongers would get a grip! So what if Skertl and Suarez leave? We have plenty of cover in centre defence with the likes of Coates to step in and do the job!
Also, is Suarez leaves, we have youngsters coming through the ranks that will help make up for his absence with the likes of Morgan, Suso, Sterling et al showing real promise. If he goes we'll get a decent amount for him. At times last season his end product was appalling and I for one think he goes down far too easily under a challenge when it would be far easier and beneficial to the team for him to stay on his feet and keep going.
He disgraced the club last year with the whole Evra race row and it did LFC's image no favours whatsoever. Remember, no player is bigger than the club. We all need to get behind BR and make use of what we already have which in my opinion is the makings of a great team.
23 Jul 2012 12:57:13
its very depressing on this latley.everyone moaning about players wanting to leave, fsg not spending enough or the usual moans about br.well if players like suarez or skirtel want to leave then they have to go,no point the teams moral getting dragged down by wantaway players.look id love if they stead too but there is nothin we or the eds can do about it especially ed2 who seems to be getting s##t for just telling the truth.so if they do go we just need to spend the cash and bring in quality replacements.....
keep the faith and stop moaning.
irish red
23 Jul 2012 12:56:17
Not sure why everyone's on about Aquilani leaving. Clearly no team wishes to fork out our valuation of him thats why he's been on loan for the last two seasons.
I clearly still has the ability of a 15k player but no team will even buy him for 10k. Best thing that rodgers can do is keep him rather than sell him for less than he's worth and allow us to use his full value... The reasons he did not settle in was also cos he was bought for Rafa's system and did not fit into both RH & KK's plans and the boy wants to play football. Why do all of you have such contempt for a player who's ability overshadows spearing, shelvey, adam, henderson combined.. And Rodgers system fits him like a glove.
YnWA.
Because he shows nothing but contempt for LFC! Why would we want to pay someone large amounts of money who fakes an injury so he doesn't have to play, amongst many other things he has done to us in the last 2 years. I would love to know how much he has been paid for us per minute played, maybe someone could work it out. I reckon it must be upwards of £10 000 per minute played. Get rid ASAP.
Nick
Yes to all that mate - but does he want stay?
Have you ever seen him play? He's terrible. Lightweight, slow, ponderous and can't be arsed either.
Agree with most things said but faking an injury? For gods sake, lets not stoop so low! Every team has a medical team that assesses the player and confirms, are you telling me the doctors at anfield were in it as well?
23 Jul 2012 12:34:09
We should sell skrtel and spend the money on hummels.
We should buy Messi and Ronaldo while we're at it.
You should see a doctor immedialty mate...next seaosn you wil say we should sell hummels and buy..Mr.X
Yeah but mr x ha a blinding season last year
Mr X is going to Chelsea
23 Jul 2012 12:33:01
If we are to get Dempsey and Allen , who do the other Liverpool supporters think we should be aiming to sign .
IMO I think Ramirez or affeley .
Suso, sterling, shelvy, Morgan should be given more games this season as think they all fit the BR style . I really don't want us to sign Sinclair or dyer the lads I mentioned like Stirling is better . Be good to get other fans opinions . Cheers
Jamesy
Afellay is crap, can't see why people think he's any good. He's far too selfish from what I've seen of him. Just because he occaisionally plays for Barcelona doesn't make him a good player. He's like Dos Santos at Spurs in my opinion.
All four for a combined fee of under 50 mill...and sell adam, spearing and downing if necessary..we get somewherr near 20 mill
23 Jul 2012 12:28:16
Instead of gerard deulofeu we should go for jese rodriguez of real mardid. Twice the player deulofeu is!
Lil Red
Changed my mind after seeing jese's 30m valuation.
Lil Red
I'd rather go for Alvaro Morata
23 Jul 2012 12:26:33
Congratulations to Bradley Wiggens on winning the Tour De France. He is a massive LFC fan and has just made history.
Congrats Bradley.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
We should invite him to Anfield - Sept 22 before the man Utd game - and give him a standing ovation!
Did anyone hear his football fan comment? What was that all about?
FowlerisGod
I hope he wins Sports Personality of the Year. However, I think he may be overlooked because of the olympics. Shame really.
Rafa's Purple Goatie
He'll be at the Olympics - a gold there would seal the SPA for him though.
BJH YNWA
23 Jul 2012 12:24:53
Hi ed002,
Would you expect liverpool to promote the likes of suso, sterling and morgan etc to the first team. Also would you expect liverpool to get rid of unwanted players through player plus cash deals for example carroll, adam, cole, aqualini and spearing. {Ed002's Note - They will be first team squad members no doubt. Players will be leaving.}
23 Jul 2012 11:37:27
Hi eds do you think with fsg finally getting the manager they wanted in that we can really class this as the rebuilding off liverpool fc as obviously last year was a bad year poor signings poor incidents we have a new manager who they wanted have new backroom staff. As with players leaving ... Suarez carroll skertl maybe cole aqualani we may finally be able to build a good team. I think the so called ns " on here must
forget that carroll has had maybe 5 good gamez for us in 18 montbs now they are all moanin as rodgers wants rid correct me if im wrong but we sold fowler owen rush etc and we have always bn successful without them! Ac isnt as good as any and will be replaced. Suarez well all the skill in the world but no brain to go with it and money will be usd to replace him this isnt tbd h&g era who almost killed ths club and for what players who turned their backs on us when we needed them. As for skertl whats the big deal let him go we have coates and kelly easyily good enough to replaced him remember aby monies raised will bring in replacements people forget we have one of the best acadenyz in the world the young ones are coming on well people had the cheek to moan about toronto game the kids did well bar eccleston who will go did any one not see man u and man city results its pre season fir god sake lets get behind lfc and make them great again patience is a virtue shankley didnt change things overnight but it will happen! Ajh316
23 Jul 2012 12:04:41
Gutted looks like united are getting the brazilian
If you mean Lucas Moura, then I very much doubt it. The Mirror says it's a done deal, I'm not convinced of anything they say.
The lad there getting is not that good,he`s ok but not a 26 million player,the lad chelsea are getting Oscar is class tho and will be a really good player.
Not a pretty sight - Old Whiskey Nose with a Brazilian.............
The Goatherder
JFT96
Ya it worked for them with Anderson???
Brazilians have never been renowned for setting the Premiership on fire, I think Juninho was the only player i can remember bringing the Brazilian 'class' to the English game.
I wouldn't get to hung up on it, they'll be on there way to Spain after they've had a couple of kicks and elbows by the likes of Stoke.
And before anyone mentions Lucas, he is not your typical Brazilian player.
JC23
He is not a £26 million pound player. But Carrol is still worth £20 million in Liverpool eyes????
Dont forget the twins.
Kopping a feel
Brazilians don't do well in britain, fergie said hazard is overpriced at £30+m which i agree with but the money he is spending on moura is the same idea, although i read they knocked back £29m so why sell for £26m, ah its the mirror !
If andy caroll is worth atleast 25 mill..then the brazilian is worth double..atleast he knows how to control the ball
Rooney has had a Brazilian on his head for the last six months, he looks like a right ....!
23 Jul 2012 12:01:48
Henry and Rodgers have already written off the coming season.
I am not surprised players want to leave.
No one want's to leave. Why don't you leave?
Aim low shoot high, aim high shoot low
Big d
Get over it, as with any manager change it's a settling in period, change of tactics and potential squad. What Kenny did last year didn't work, so things have to change. If we do well great, if not, get over it and next year will be better. One friendly with majority of first team squad out and after summer break and you're crying into your Cavani and Higuain named liverpool shirts.
Welsh Steve
Who, apart from Aquilani, wants to leave?
You sound like my old English teacher
Aim for a pass and you'll fail
Aim for the top and you'll pass
Still won't get top 4 though
This troll has had you all.
ND
Aim high and shot on target
or aim on target and fall short
Haych
like suarez said there is always that little dream of winning the league (it wont happen but we'd end up closer to the top that if we aim for 4th)
23 Jul 2012 11:57:44
Since this is the banter section I just wondered what people made of the performance against Toronto at the weekend. On the whole I thought we played ok, lacked a bit of final product as usual but there were some positives especially from the likes of Suso and Sterling. Obviously Morgan did what he's there to do as well. However I was very dissapointed with Chalie Adam and Aquilani (always have been with him though). They both looked like they couldn't be arsed. Adam seems incapable of playing a short passing game, he does love his 60 yard hollywood ball. Spearing seemed genuinely annoyed with the movement they offered, or didn't offer more like. Thoughts? MarkB.
You summed most things up perfectly although I'll add I thought Robinson did exactly what your fullbacks should do in this type of football, pushing on, and his positioning was probably better than Enrique's. Unfortunately Joe Cole played, well like he has done for us so far, which is fairly ineffectual. Bit harsh possibly but having (sort of) known him since he was 14 and knowing how he can play it wasn't setting worlds on fire...
But only the first game...
Richards
23 Jul 2012 11:46:18
speculation over, skirtel and suarez going nowhere - liverpool echo,
I'll fight to keep skirtel + suarez - rogers daily post.
LAFFIN
HOLYHEAD RED.
23 Jul 2012 11:25:50
Hats off to Daniel Levy. If you sign a contract you must honour it. It's a disgrace to those that engineer moves away. remember fans bought shirts/merchandise.
What are you going on about lad ??
Just like he did with Berbatov?
Do you honestly expect Modric to be playing for Spurs next season?
JRG
It's silly how arrogant players have become nowadays.. getting paid extraordinary money and still no respect towards the game at all..if it were up to me i woud just keep these fools ( ie rvp and modric ) on the bench for the rest of their contracts. Refusing to follow the team on tour is certainly breach of contract and disgraceful to fans and coach
PP
23 Jul 2012 11:12:03
Ed002, recently there's been a lot of speculation surrounding some of the players at liverpool and whether they have a future at the club. How many players roughly would you say will be following the likes of kuyt and maxi etc, and if possible names. Also would you expect some of the younger players given a chance or do you think we will go out and buy players to replace those leaving. Thanks:) {Ed002's Note - No doubt it will become more clear about transfers and loans once the team returns from the tour. I would not want to guess as to what will happen over the next month but I am sure it will be sufficient to keep folks talking.}
23 Jul 2012 10:55:41
Ed's - Do you know anything about Diego Rojas Orellana?
Dan {Ed002's Note - I don't recall anything.}
23 Jul 2012 10:41:15
Is this LFC tv programme a one off, or is it a full reality series?
Could be a stroke of genious if it's the latter, if it's decent and pulls in a big audience, who knows how many more fans we will get.
Would be great to go to America one day and see all the locals sporting warrior tops, LFC baseball caps, wallets, pens, sports bags etc etc etc.
I know we don't get anything from tops apart from a walking, talking advert for the club.
But all that money brought in from the other rubbish we sell is only a good thing.
I can see Liverpool becoming the biggest club in America.
MIKEY {Ed002's Note - It is the third one made about EPL teams so far.}
That's funny ed I could swear it says the first time a club has ever opened its doors to the cameras like Liverpool are doing who else did this?
Deanalfie. {Ed002's Note - Chelsea (Blue Revolution) and Manchester City and (Blue Moon Rising).}
Unfortunately as we saw on sat night, some fans were there and didn't know what team was wearing what colour. A fan was wearing our new home kit but was screaming in delight and punching the air when Toronto scored. Guess he thought if the ball hits the net then its time to celebrate. Obviously this is not the case for all our American cousins! ed002 we love you!
As an American, I take offense at the last poster's calling people at the Toronto game, "our American cousins". Last I checked, Canadians are not Americans, at least not until we invade when we run out of lumber. That's going to be one crazy weekend.
Ben the Red
23 Jul 2012 10:30:58
As a liverpool fan i feel like ive been waitin 20 years for a turn around o wait i have i also feel that with the money we spent last year was wasted on big fish in small ponds and the owners need to say listen give brendan 30 mill now 14 mill on sturridge ( cos he only got a year left i think on his contract plus we can offer first team footy) also with the other 16 mill get adam johnson and we would be top four dont get me wrong ill suppot who ever but thats just my take on things cos if we dont we will be on here next year sayin Omg tony hibbert to liverpool hes great pffffft p.s been paitient 20 years
DaveLFC
Does both comes as close to gaston ramirez and matias suarez??......
23 Jul 2012 10:30:44
Hi Ed
It is said that Liverpool are willing to pay Fulhams asking price for Dempsey, and only need to convince the player, any truth in this?
Also do you have any news on the Allen and Walcott situation?
Thanks :) {Ed002's Note - Read the numerous other answers given on these players.}
23 Jul 2012 10:26:37
there are allot of rumours flying round saying demba ba could be part of a swap deal for andy carroll is this got any truth in it
23 Jul 2012 10:22:21
Laudrup has resigned himself to Losing Joe Allen to Liverpool for 15 million, saying the player wants to join us.
23 Jul 2012 10:20:47
Whats the news on conor coady? heard barnsley are interested in him? is this why he never went to america tour?
cocko
23 Jul 2012 10:17:46
Hia Ed,
Who is interested in signing Butland from Birmingham, if anyone?
Thanks
Burnsy {Ed002's Note - I really don't know Burnsy.}
O right, thanks as always though!
Burnsy
I heard spurs were after him at one point not sure if they still are
Southampton want him
23 Jul 2012 10:12:23
Too many posters calling for the owners to splash the cash. You do realise this summer is as much about sorting out the mess caused by poor signings from the previous regimes. Unfortunately, if we don't get the club on a sound financial footing now we are doomed to remain outside the top four for many years to come. Brendan will have been briefed and must have bought into the plan. Big earners who are not first team regulars must be off-loaded if possible and big signings must be funded by player sales. Just because this is the hand BR has been dealt doesn't mean the club is "thinking small". Newcastle went through the same process and look how far they've come, on and off the pitch, when their fans had given up on their owner, were underwhelmed by the manager and felt the club was selling the family silver.
So if we let Bellamy, Doni and Cole leave on top of Kuyt , Maxi and Aurelio what's the problem? All big earners and none first XI regulars and if we say they're paid an average 80k per week that's a huge amount off the wage bill over the next 2 years even allowing for pay-offs.
There are others who I think BR will allow to leave for cash. Aquilani (we know why and no loss as he's hardly played) Carroll (wrong style, poor performances, not many goals and off-field doubts) Adam (could stay but his lack of mobility and the fact there are clubs who might want him sees him included) and Skrtel (looks like he wants to go and replaceable as he's had one good season - if there's no movement on contract now is the time to sell)
Borini already signed which means we're covered while Carrolls future is sorted and Allens signing would allow us to sell Adam. To all the people who are underwhelmed by Dempsey consider this: if it was your first season as manager and you wanted a forward who scores goals, works his socks off, has good technique and preferably knows the PL would you pay 8m for Clint who ticks all those boxes or 20-30m to get a Ramirez or Muniain who only ticks the box marked potential? IF Carroll is sold the replacement will be someone like Sturridge for 12m or Mirallas for 7m. Wouldn't then be surprised to see Cole and Aquilanis departures covered by Tello on loan.
All of this would leave us with a trimmed down and younger squad, space for our youngsters to come in and grow gradually, a greater goal threat and a solid base (both playing-wise and financial) to build on.
Reina; Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Enrique; Lucas, Allen, Gerrard; Borini, Suarez, Dempsey
Jones; Kelly, Carragher, Coates, Wilson; Spearing, Henderson, Shelvey; Tello, Sturridge, Downing
Suso and Sterling to be given games and others loaned out.
So can people get their heads out of the clouds. There are thankfully many sensible supporters on here as well who realise that Borini, Allen & Dempsey and full seasons for Gerrard and Suarez will make us much better in the coming season. Don't panic!
PieInTheSkyMan
I agree with most of, if not all of what you have said however what if suarez is taken out of the picture then would u want the owners to spend on a replacement, or continue with low wage potential, or proven talent nice to see a sensible post though
I agree..mate..but you know why ramirez cost you 17 mill?..becoz he is absolute quality? I see him as next Alexis sanchez...who cost Barca 30 mill....ramirez is twice as adm johnosn and mirallas or matias suarez would be better than sturridge anyday...anytime......
You say we'd be covered if Carroll left cos we bought Borini-- but that would leave us with only two strikers(Borini and Suarez) - you know that all the top 4 clubs have at least 3 if not 4 recognised forwards. ......unless BR wants us to play without a proper forward like Spain {Ed002's Note - Efforts are being made for Dempsey who can play as a striker, and Morgan has shown promise - although it seems there is now a new faction of supporter that don't want the youngsters coming through and will complain unless they hear CAvani has been seen at the airport.}
Ed..its not as such..all the youngesters need to be anfield legends..we love them..suso, sterling and morgan needs first team football..i would be happy to let them go for loan for one full season ...may to a championship club...they are very young..cant risk their physical strength..one full season on loan will give them at least 25 games..next season they gonna be regular starters for our club....
23 Jul 2012 10:10:08
Hi to all Ed's and other lfc fans I know this isn't football related but would love to hear who people would love to have to dinner you know well known in history celebrity style or fiction for a meal and talking around the table you can pick 6.
My 6 would be Bill Shankly,Alan Carr ,Morgan freeman, Thor ,Spock,and Sheldon from the big bang theory now that's a weird mix for a dinner haha cheers pk
I would pick a six with the same interests I could see your dinner party being a room full of people just answering questions.
I would like to hear debates and their views so would pick people who had passion for the same thing.
But I would probably enjoy speaking individually to all your choices having them sat together would be awkward.
Kopping a feel
Katie Price
J Lo
Tulisa
Cheryl Cole
Megan Fox
Jenna Jameson
And a big bowl for the car keys ;-) is that what you meant lol
Mike S
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Come on Eds
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{Ed002's Note - Ok - a few old "friends" (not all of which are with us any longer). Carl Franzoni, Father Yod, Aron Kay, Bobby Seale, Nico Paffgen and Jim Haynes.}
Bruce Grobbelaar, Chris Evans, Lee Mack,
Stephen Fry, Freddie Mercury and Basil Fawlty sounds like a fun night to me.
KJS
Jamie Carragher, John Bishop, Jay Spearing, Steven Gerrard, Jon Flanagan and Pop Eye.. Could be a bit awkward though seeing as Pop Eye will be the only intellectual one i can understand :S
YNWA! (Adam)
Kenny Dalglish, John Peel, Joe Strummer, Georges St Pierre, Buddha, The Man from Delmonte
cozinoz
Charlotte Jackson, Georgie Thompson, Natalie Sawyer, Olivia Godfrey, Millie Clode and Rachel Wyse.
Bill Shankly, Muhammed Ali, George Best, Richard Pryor, Marilyn Munroe and Keith Moon. Would be interesting and unpredictable!
Kev79
Luis Suarez, Patrice Evra, John Terry, Anton Ferdinand and Mr and Ms. Wayne Bridge.. {Ed022's Note - I probably shouldn't post this but it did make me chuckle.}
23 Jul 2012 10:03:52
Please take note of these words from BR:
"I've heard nothing from any other club," said Rodgers.
"Martin has been fantastic. He seems happy and contented. He has fit into my plans and ideas.
"I will fight as hard as I can to keep the players that I want here and Martin is one of them."
Rodgers has the same stance over Luis Suarez, insisting that he is looking forward to seeing him in action.
"I'm confident Luis is really looking forward to playing for us this season and is really looking forward to this way of football," said Rodgers.
"I have spoken to him and had nothing but positivity from him.
"He is obviously at the Olympics and I wish him well, but I will wish him better when he comes back.
"Unfortunately there is always that rumour, speculation and gossip and until the window closes that will continue."
So please stop with all the "rumours" of these players leaving. At this point it's all just speculation - nothing more!
LFC_SA
23 Jul 2012 09:57:52
Carroll was good for half a season and we spent 35million on him.....
We've a full season coming our way, i'm sure if he stay's he'll no doubt do much better.
Congratulations on winning the most pointless post of the day! you're an invisible legend!
Milamber
More reason to keep him then and get our money's worth!
Example (approx figures excluding fees, bonuses etc..)
Carroll - £35m + £4m per year.
Total spend 2 Years - £43m
Total spend 5 Years - £55m
(Torres money + 5m)
Hazard - £32m + £9m per year
Total spend 2 Years - £50m
Total spend 5 Years - £77m
People say Carroll was expensive and they are right but no where near the total cost of some of the players coming into the EPL at the moment.
NS
Being outed from everything you love and put in a new environment will do that to some people.
Kopping a feel
There is a big differnce between caroll and hazard...u cant buy skill, neither u can create it...either u are born with it or not...caroll have no clue on controlling the ball and to ease past a defender...which is very important to every one in football....
I would be happy to sell him..
The money we paid has gone now but we still have a poor player better get some thing for him than pay his wage for sitting on the bench the loss will be covered in other ways
Yous talk about carrolls price like yous paid for it. its the owners loss.i wouldn be worryin about them they ll make enough money out of this club.i think if carroll is given a chance this season he will shine.
irish red
To the nameless poster who states "you are born with skill" - you're wrong.
You are born with ability. Skill is acquired, developed, and nurtured.
Joe
Didnt chelsea pay for Carroll anyway. Torres and Merieles paid for Carroll and Suarez.... I think we got the better deal and hopefully in time I will be proved right..... either that or Carroll is being sold in the morning!
jonnybarnes89-90
23 Jul 2012 09:37:11
Hi eds do you think the Allen deal will be complete before the Olympics? Also how close are we to Signing Dempsey? Also reading one of the posts as Suarez said he wants to go?
Thanks
Mighty reds {Ed002's Note - We cannot say with any accuracy the timing of the completion of transfers. There is interest and you just need to wait.}
23 Jul 2012 09:06:46
i have read a lot of posts on here saying how chelsea, man u etc are buying all these great players and how we must buy the likes of Kaka and co!??
Is it just me or would Kaka not be the greatest player for us at all. Even if he came cheap and wanted 40000 only per week, he is just not that good anymore
Sometimes i think people just want players they read about or who have lovely flashy names and are surrounded by hype.
gareth
I don't know with 40.000 per week he would come rather cheap
23 Jul 2012 08:36:24
What position was Joe Allen played in at Swansea's 3 man midfield?
Was he alongside Leon Britton as DM or next to Sigurdson as CM/AM..
Just wanted to know wether he'll be paired more with Lucas or Gerrard?
He plays a middle role, his main job was to link the two lines. He can be employed in the deep position as well.
Drigan
You lot arguing about what a winger is or who is an inside forward - I come from the day when positions were set in stone:
Keeper,Right back,left back,right half,centre half,left half,right wing,inside right,centre forward,inside left and left wing.
No names (and certainly not nicknames) on shirts - NO subs and NO Fergie time
In those days God was in His heaven and all was well with the world
Puzzled
I make you right Puzzled, there's also a criminal shortage of moustaches and facial hair in todays footballers I think,...especially in the mens game.
David
My god, how old are you puzzled?
Red Raw {Ed001's Note - when he talks about 'during the war', he is referring to the Crimean War.....}
23 Jul 2012 08:33:48
Morning Eds
After his first senior goal at the weekend, what part do you think Adam Morgan will play this season? Been watching the academy on LFC TV for a few years now and many liken him to a young Fowler. He certainly has an eye for goal.
Cheers Eds
Lewie lewis {Ed002's Note - I would think he will be a valuable squad member and will get opportunities.}
I do hope so because like yourself I have seen him play and the lad just scores but to be fair like they said he has been on a lean recently.
But has that unpretty habit of just scoring lets face it everyone who says he stole a goal is just plane naive he would have beens slated if the defender had cleared it fact is the ball goes in the net whoever scores you dont give chances to clear and thats a free lesson for everyone who thinks otherwise.
Kopping a feel
I don'tknow a player in this world who would've left that ball.
derryred
23 Jul 2012 08:16:40
20 mill for carrol n get muniain with the carrol money simple we need good wingers as in not sinclair
Rodgers doesn't play with wingers ............
How does Rodgers not play with wingers lololol!?!? I think Sinclair and Dyer slipped frOm ur head.
There is a difference between Winger and Inside Forward. Sinclair is an Inside Forward, not sure for Dyer. Muniain is also more of an Inside Forward - a player in the mould of Suarez. He would fit perfectly in BR's scheme, but sadly, I don't see it happening.
Drigan
Think what he means is the old fashioned touchline hugging traditional winger.
rodgers doesn't have them.
Drigan have you been playing FM? plus sinclair and dyer ARE wingers!
Canadian Red
The first post mentions sinclair and the next comment says rodgers doesnt play with wingers.......kinda contradicts itself seeing as sinclair was one of his main players last year.
For those of you under twelve , wingers play wide , near or on the touchline , and deliver from that area .
As the second poster says , and I agree , Rodgers doesn't play with wingers .
Or perhaps some of you thought Dirk Kuyt was a winger ?
Canadian Red , if you think Dyer and Sinclair are wingers , you should have gone to Specsavers ...........
23 Jul 2012 08:15:20
reading a few of the rumours on here and it seems like under the dalglish era we were linked and interested in a lot of good international players. then he and comolli get 100 million to spend and they buy (for the most part) overpriced english players. this is something i dont understand.
anyway that's the past, now to the future. i really like rodgers and think he will take us forward on an exciting path.
anyone agree or disagree with anything i've said please comment.
jm
Henry has said he does not expect BR to get top 4 this year
that says it all about BR & FSG
Its called being realistic. LFC arent a top 4 club at this moment, why add un needed pressure by saying we will finnish 4th when theres a good chance we wont?
If thats the case why did kenny have to get 4th last season? seems unfair to me. steviep62.
He does not DEMAND from BR to get into top 4 this year. Learn some semantics, geese...
Drigan
The old "Where not good enough approach!" then hopefully sneak in under the radar? makes sense to me.
kidmillions
Dont think Kenny was ever a long term plan they had a system in mind and Kenny wasnt part of it.
We need to face facts that we are finally seeing what FSG want not a quick fix.
Kopping a feel
If thats the case why did they give Kenny a 3 year contract?
To undo the legend of Kenny?
Why did they not give Kenny time after all he wanted more time?
If someone could answer that sensibly it would clear up a lot of issues that are stinking up around LFC.
Results were not good enough, for the EPL anyhow, and it was clear that the dressing room was not a unit under kenny
23 Jul 2012 07:29:44
with manutd buying moura and van persie likewise Chelsea getting hazard Oscar Liverpool must buy atleast2 players like iker munain and kaka and Kevin mirralas plus in coming dempsey and borini and morgan one of them will b hopefully a goal poatcherlike Fowler top4is ou aim and nothing less ynwa London red
23 Jul 2012 05:59:59
I would be gutted if BR is targeting any more players from Swansea except for Joe Allen.
Who are Dyer and Sinclair, Just pure BS, linking us with them or thinking of bringing them. We have Sterling and Suso in couple of years time who could be two world class players.
I don't fancy the idea of loaning these two, I believe they are good enough to feature in the starting XI, With the fact we have a busy schedule in the upcoming season I believe it would be best for both parties if we could keep & use Sterling, Suso, Morgan & Shelvey more often.
Keep the youngsters, give them the chance I am sure they will shine.
The flops like Joe Cole, Downing, Adam and Aquilani are those who must leave and give their places to these Youngsters.
Come on BR lets make the right decisions!
Bosco
Think Suso is a certainty to get plenty of opportunities this season under Rodgers
kidmillions
I hope so Kidmillions how long as fans have we been waiting for certain youngsters to make it.
Personally I thought Flannagan and Robinson hyeld their own brilliantly when played and cant help but feel the others will to.
But just seeing Flannagans face when he banged Carragher out said that things do affect these youngsters and do need blooding in slowly.
Kopping a feel
23 Jul 2012 03:23:30
i liked coming on this site but it has become very depressing to think so many LFC supporters think the way they do. get behind our squad and stop praying we will do exactly what you did with Liverpool on FIFA 11 - it wont happen and it would be worse than anything Rodgers does if it did! get behind all our players and stop wondering what we could get if X Y or Z comes in for them. that is how birmingham fans are meant to think after they get relegated.
23 Jul 2012 06:36:57
Ed(s)? With regards to Dempsey, I reckon if he is a real target, he'll be signed AFTER our tour. Makes more sense to finish our US tour and get the LFC brand seen all over US and THEN sign their (US's) best player. We get to exploit the market and get all the 'new' fans backing us AND sign a real decent goal scorer. Thoughts? LojR
PS: on route to Boston to see our Reds at Fenway Park! YNWA {Ed029's Note - I would have thought that we would have liked to sign him and for him to play out there as it would have drummed up even more interest. It could be that Fulham are playing hardball, as I have heard that they are extremely difficult to negotiate with which is great for their fans and is part of the reason that they have kept some of their good players for so long}
23 Jul 2012 06:22:29
Football is become such a money game. Chelsea,Mancity, continue to splurge the cash. Dont know how we are ever going to Win the league without rich owners. Its a hard fact of life but unfortunately its true.
DAN {Ed029's Note - I know it is a different league but it isn't always about the money, look at Montpellier last year who won it compared to PSG with all of their money. It can be done, also if the youth set up is right you can produce the best players rather than buying them for huge amounts of money from other clubs. Of course in today's world money helps hugely if we can get back into the Champions League that will help provide us with more revenue, more players that want to come to Liverpool to play at the highest level etc}
23 Jul 2012 01:31:47
This isnt a rumour I know, but I'm just making a point here RE the Babel rumours. Personally I don't see him as a Rodgers player! Not because he lacks talent, but because he appears to lack drive and the ability to knuckle down, which is what Rodgers appears to prize above all other attributes! Doubt we will see him in a red shirt any time soon I'd Rodgers sticks to his principles.
Mike {Ed029's Note - It has all started from Twitter and I don't believe he is a target}
23 Jul 2012 00:04:13
Ok, I seriously don't get why people are so obsessed with the price of players! This is something the owners should be worried about, not us fans.
I for one don't care how much we spent on Carrol or Henderson or Enrique etc. A footballer should be judged by his performances on the pitch, rather than be compared to his price tag. I'm sure if Carrol was bought for 15 million you guys would be shouting out WHAT A BARGAIN WHAT A BARGAIN. Ffs, get a hold of yourselves and let the owners take care of the money.
PakiRed.
Its not us who pay the transfer fee right.
15 million for a couple of goals in eighteen months is still not a bargain.
22 Jul 2012 23:20:09
I spoke to Ian Arye today at Boston he said to me not to expect anything special and would not let up on any possible targets it worrys me because off kenny the owners have lost trust? Any thoughts and I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say we will sign Darren bent Ian Aye has toyed to sign him for 4 years now lets see
More like the owners have lost faith in how they underestimated the EPL
Darren Bent? The player who doesn't track back with the rest of the team and just waits for the ball to be launched forward so he can try and boot it in? No, Rodgers will not want him, he wants players who play his system. Defend and attack as a unit.
This is the first yr Ian Ayre has dealt with the signing of players,so your four yrs sentence was a waste of space.
23 Jul 2012 00:16:15
I watched the liverpool movie trailer. I think it will be really good.
The bit where lucas is sprinting on the machine, and thinking bout how messed up his knee was, to see him push the pain, with the music in the back ground, got me a little bit pumped!
Charlie adam then struggling 1 pull up killed it ;)
And im starting to fall in love with rodgers, says all the right things. Lets hope results pick up!
Benny baller
Benny I think you said a few weeks ago that you still relativity young. Im getting a real kick out of your posts. Keep them coming mate.
Chi-paul
Have seen it but let's get back to planet earth here ,we're a FOOTBALL club trying to win the prem league NOT a Grammy for best picture .
Hope our success story in the future becomes a Hollywood blockbuster..
Red PG
23 Jul 2012 00:00:23
did anyone see Aquilani play against toronto, he looked a great player, everything was coming through him, he would make a good addition next season its just a shame he doesnt want (or cant be bothered) to play in the premier league
I must have been watching another game, Aquilani made a few cross ball passes but that's all they where cross ball - they resulted in very little. Shelvey and Suso where much better when they came on!
NS
Did you watch Aqualani play against Toronto? He seemed lightweight and made 5 yard passes.
When he tried to play a longer pass it lacked the power and pace. He didn't make any tackles and seemed off the pace. As an LFC supporter it worries me to no end that someone who was so highly rated when we signed him looked so distinctly average against a TFC reserve team is worrying!
On the plus side, its been very sunny across canada lately, maybe he'll fancy a move??
Canadian Red
22 Jul 2012 23:58:52
Looks like chelski and united strengthening again with Lucas and Oscar. Any sign of LFC transfer activity before we get left even further behind?
Both too young and too weak, I'm not bothered about them really! In fact I'm glad they are wasting their money on unproven, weak brazilians.
What when they could be buying english donkeys who can't score ?
22 Jul 2012 22:48:01
See people saying Gerrard won't suit tika-taka? Think we'll see stevie in a more controlled dm partnership with Lucas and not charging about the pitch as in days of old. He played that position quite well with England alongside scott parker.
It will also help him to play out a full season if he's more disciplined and extend his career, he will have enough movement,energy and skill alongside him in Lucas and in front of him in Allen,Suarez,Dempsey and Borini.
Forget Alonso and Masch the new partnership will be Gerrard and Lucas our two attacking fullbacks will shine with these two covering.
kidmillions
I agree with u 100% kidmillons i have bin saying the same myself...dave d
Same here mate.
I don't think we would of got 2 more seasons out of him the way he was playing.
This new system might prolong his usefulness beyond that.
MIKEY
Spot on Kidmillions! And also, with Lucas and Gerrard in the centre I doubt there will be many games where our midfield will be bossed about! Stevie G can control the game from there aswell, almost like a quarterback. Spraying passes into dangerous positions and when you need a deep laying midfielder to join an attack and/or run into space near or around the box/ d then who better than Gerrard to do this!
Mouthwatering!
K.Bennett
22 Jul 2012 22:43:54
Just watched the game from last night IMO shelvy was the best player on the pitch , can anyone remember if he gave the ball away ? I really think we have a very bright future though . Adam Morgan could be the next Robbie fowler . Brendan Rodgers likes his teams to keep the ball and be aggressive in attack this is why I think shelvy is going to be a big player for us he makes forward passes which aqua and spearing like to pass sideways . I know it's only freindlies but he has stood out for me , so far anyway .
Anyone agree ? Cheers
Jamesy
I agree, shelvey is 1 very attack minded midfielder.
Kaizer
Shelvey was full of energy and I do like him but I think you'll find if you watch the game again he played more long balls than anyone and quite a few where wayward?
kidmillions
22 Jul 2012 22:42:11
Here's a one to possibly vote on, if you would accept finishing 8th again in the league, but a few more youngsters were intergrated this year - Sterling, Suso, Robinson etc.??
I think I would
We should never accept 8th.
BthekingB
Yep if 8th this year will lead to 1st in 4 seasons time then definitely
derryred
22 Jul 2012 22:24:56
Gerard the /Spanish kid in hopefully to Liverpool . Apparently he is really good. This is the type of signing we need. Raw but with great potential.
What ya reckon eds ?
your type of player? {Ed001's Note - unless he learns how not to waste possession 99.99% of the time, he is not the type of signing we need. Yes he can run fast, yes he can run past players, but he just runs into blind alleys or hoofs it into the crowd at the end of it. Frustrating when playing for Spain, who dominate the game so he has endless chances to waste, but it would just be a waste of time playing for us, we don't dominate matches to the same extent and already have enough players adept at punting the ball into the crowd when anywhere within 40 yards of the goal.}
22 Jul 2012 22:24:41
Gerard the /Spanish kid in hopefully to Liverpool . Apparently he is really good. This is the type of signing we need. Raw but with great potential.
What ya reckon eds ?
your type of player? {Ed001's Note - nope, headless chicken for me, great ability but no idea how to use it and constantly running into blind alleys or wasting possession by shooting high, wide and handsome. Not what we should be looking for when we have Sterling, who can do everything he can, and do it better.}
22 Jul 2012 22:14:28
As good as RVP isand i realise there is no chance him coming to us, would i be the only supporter who would hate to see him at LFC?
I have a feeling he wont be so great next year and personally wouldnt mind him going to Manu or city as think they may well wonder what all the money they paid was for.
gareth
I wouldn't hate it but see your point. there is no way he will have another great season like that and stay injury free. arsenal are moving him on at the right time (just under the wrong circumstances). i must say but towards the second half of the season he did miss a fair few chances.
derryred
Agree about rvp, he's been at Arsenal since he was 22 and he hit his peak last season and at his age and price not worth the gamble of him settling quickly or reproducing last seasons form.
Last season he scored more goals than in his first 3 seasons with Arsenal combined and more goals than in his 4th and 5th season combined? He scored 63 goals in all competitions in his first 5 seasons with Arsenal. So give Suarez time. He will score.
kidmillions
kidmillions