Liverpool Banter Archive February 23 2013

 

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23 Feb 2013 23:30:37
A different option that would be superb for us is Lukaku. imagine him Suarez and Sturridge! ButnBrendan doesn't seem to accept physicality is required in our Leauge! Barca don't play likes of Stokes and West Hams


Agree just seen him play on MOTD.
cant believe he is only 19!

Liverno1


It's all well and true saying it but don't think Chelsea actually want to sell him, so your point is mute. Fact


Id prefer Mertens


The point is also moot as well as mute.

I expect us to sign a replacement for Downing in the summer and a physical central midfielder.
The defence obviously needs much work.


Would love him here. He's a beast of a player Suarez lukaku sturridge
Yes please Brendan don't think any defense would handle that sheer strength, pace trickery, and goal scoring ability between
The three!
Think Chelsea should rethink spending another 50 mill this guy is guna be the next big thing at 19? Wish he was English aswell we don't produce players with this size and power! 20 mill should tempt Chelsea me thinks. Would sacrifice sterling and 10 mill aswell then he gets to go back to London everyone's a winner


Chelsea sold Sturridge, so what do they know?


 

 

23 Feb 2013 22:55:03
Arda turan and christian eriksen are the attacking players brendans Rodgers wants to add in the summer.


Eriksen won't happen


Neither Turan, Eriksen, Munian, nor Mertens will be coming to Liverpool. They all will have many options elsewhere for CL eligble teams. Its time you all got back to the reality of our situation.


24 Feb 2013 08:36:15
Can't see it. Both great players but would cost an arm and a leg. Would assume the majority of our summer funds will go on defensive reinforcments!


 

 

23 Feb 2013 22:50:43
now people are interetsed in mertens. and turan.
I was crying all summer and winter to buy this man.
mertens is absolute quality. so as turan.
I also wanted honda. since we bought countinho. honda canhce over.

sell downing and get mertens. and buy turan.


One of the Ed's explained yesterday that L. F. C are not interested in Mertens. So that puts the dampeners on that one.

I explained that I don't think we are in a position to buy Mertens when other teams are looking at him with Champions League football next season and we haven't got it to offer. So i'm not getting my hopes up over Mertens signing for Liverpool, I think it's more likely he'll go to Bayern Munich as things stand to replace Arjen Robben.

BCDI.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 22:49:57
I think Simon mignolet has had an outstanding season for Sunderland, and if reina is leaving would make a great replacement.


23 Feb 2013 23:56:09
Sell Reina, get a certain Courtois on loan, sign Mignolet (or someone better) the season after next.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 22:47:06
We all know we need to improve the quality of our team in the summer. Reports of reina, skertel and coates and co all leaving mean we have to bring in quality replacements. So I hope reports of us being linked with the likes of Ashley Williams and al habsi are just idol tabloid gossip. because player's like these will not improve us.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 22:26:54
if anyone has the barca v sev game on how bad is sánchez every time he got the ball he walked to steps and passed it away don't no if this was just another bad game for him but if we look to him to replace luis we will be in trouble


23 Feb 2013 23:58:08
The guy is terribly awful and I hate his attitude as well. I'd rather have Sturridge.


He was great in the Italian league :- (


24 Feb 2013 06:54:33
he is short on confidence I think he has not scored since the first game in the league. but I think he is good with bags of potential a player I would love to have in our team.


As was Aquilani and Borini.


That's my point, great in the Italian league means Zilch!


 

 

23 Feb 2013 21:33:02
Anyone got any further news on the potential reds tour/game in Australia this year?. {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}


 

 

23 Feb 2013 21:30:40
Carra will sign a 2 year deal as a coach of some form. ROCK SOLID INFO.

Cheers,
Walshy


He definitely won't be going to Sky.


Him and Gary Neville commentating.

Lets hope not.


A coach, I hope not.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 21:01:28
hi all the big problem that I see is that for years we have sold some of our best players and replaced them with players who are not of the same standard not so long ago we had probably the best midfield in the world and whilst we have replaced some of that talent we have not got players of the same ability I feel this is where we have lost our cutting edge. I believe in the manager and also the owners but it will take time for the required improvements to filter down ray. 3037


 

 

23 Feb 2013 20:40:17
The the main bulk of the squad has quality players actually and for us to get achieve top 4 I think we are a few players away BUT the main 'problem' or 'issue' is CONSISTENCY! We need to build a good winning mentality.
Look at Spurs and Everton! Yh their not the real deal yet but compared to them a few seasons ago they are much more consistent and have a stronger mentality!
Rodgers needs time to stabalise a solid team with good winning consistency!
From looking at the sqaud I think that the positions that 'need' improvement are CB and CM
Then after that maybe a GK

CB-Carra retiring and Skrtel stuttering possibly getting sold! But I think we should just buy 1 CB!
Use Kelly & Wisdom as backup choice and promote Mclaughlin if needed!
Obv would love likes of Howdes and Alderweild!
But thinkin about it Ashley Williams could be a good buy.
He is a 'tank' a big physical presence! Which we 'lack'
We have struggled against likes of Lukaku, Benteke Jones etc. And Williams would able to handle them.
Also a main attribute is that he is a 'LEADER' Swansea and Wales Captain.
With Carra retiring we need a 'talker' and 'leader' and Williams would provide that!
Yes he's nearly 29 and would prefer some1 a bit young BUT we do NEED experience though and also with him giving a few solid years it would give Kelly/Wisdom step up!

CM- Its obv we need som1 more physical and a Box to Box player!
Diame would be obvious choice! Or Capoue hus similar!
If not a physical type what about a Alonso-type
Benat- He is a quality spanish playmaker and decent in the tackle but he is fairly small BUT quality.
I think some1 like Kevin Strootman or Lars Bender
Would be great. They a are Box to Box type players good at passing and decent in creating chances but also can get in tackles!

Any 1 of them would be awesome! We need to take the midfield burden off of Gerrard! Need a new mid like a 'young gerrard type'

GK- I feel critisism of Reina has been abit harsh as he is still one of the PLs Top keepers!
However he isn't as good as he was! And prone to a mistake! But does make top saves i. e. Vs Zenit in both games made good reflex saves!
But I think it is a good time to let him go BUT we have to make sure we get as much money as possible for him like 15m+
Begovic, Leno, Vorm, Muslera, Ochoa
I think likes of Ter Stegen are out of our reach with likes of Barca interested!

ATT- We have a great attacking 3 in Coutinho, Suarez, Sturridge
Also options in Sterling, Borini, Downing, Assaidi and Suso
That's 8 options! That's a lot so if we we're to get som1 in we need to get rid of a few!
I think Downing could be sold as he has improved BUT not to a extent that he has been awesome so he is sellable!
Assaidi-He is a decent player!WHY! Doesn't he get a chance! He has good pace nn can beat a player BUT I feel Rodgers would get rid!

I would like
Dries Mertens - Just about everyone knows he's quality! Perfect for our front 3! Pacey winger who scored goals! 8m-15m

We've been linked to Turan like every year!
But I do think we have a decent chance to get him as Athletico would be open to Sell and he would want to play for us!

Anyway what we need is to build CONSISTENCY and maybe buy a GK, CB and maybe a CM in the summer and not too sure on a ATT just yet though!

We can only get better!

F5


I think Assaidi is a bit like A Lennon. He has a poor final ball and he delays the final ball too long therefore losing momentum.
He can't just beat his man and put a cross in. He has to beat his man, go back and beat him again. Do a little sidestep and go back and beat his man again and then cross it to the first defender at the near post.

Sorry but he has next to zero football intelligence. I'd let him go.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 19:09:59
just in case the club do not sign eriksen this summer is the club considering other replacement. and what is the clubs decision on signing def midfield players this summer {Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure that Liverpool are not looking at a replacement for Eriksen just yet.}


George9, what do you mean " just in case we don't sign Eriksen"? We have absoulutely zero chance of signing Eriksen in the first place.


More chance of signing Sven!

I'd put money on Jordie Clasie being targeted. Perfect for PL, all action, box to box, incredible engine, good tackler and technically sound.

Won't cost the earth.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 19:07:27
Any idea how the stadium plans are coming along and if all the necessary compulsary purchases have been completed yet?


 

 

23 Feb 2013 20:20:21
Not posted for a while, formerly jimbo, but does anyone else think that Thursday night showed us that Lucas is getting back to the form he was showing before his cruciate injury? Thought he had a great game the other night, and his fitness is also improving.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 20:02:49
What's the deal with skertel. Know his form hasn't exactly been great but why has he been dropped and left out of the team, when he others have been far worse yet keep there places.


I agree. I still rate skrtel over carra any day


Because Carra is on the verge of breaking a record. Who said there are no players bigger than the team, obviously to Carra and BR, there are.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 18:57:29
Does anyone else get super frustrated that we seem to have a great ability to get up and down the wings these days, but we don't have anyone to cross it too? How many goals have we scored with our heads this season, I bet probably less than any other top 10 team. Other than that I really like the way our attack is shaping up. I think the squad we have now is good enough to generate enough goals for the top 4 next year, we just need some depth up front. Main concern for me is the defense. We need a backup for Lucas and we need a boss to come in and clean up the Center back position. I think in 3 years Martin Kelly can be that kind of player but we need someone to fill the void until then.


I think that now we have Sturridge we have someone who'll be in the box as much as possible


Not even cross to, there is hardly anyone in the box


Im not convinced at all by Martin Kelly. I think Wisdom will be a much, much better CB.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 18:44:45
Quote of the day by ChrisE "We are not Chelsea who go through managers like Katie Price goes through men".


I like it Chris but I wouldn't worry you're nothing like Chelsea. Since Rafa left Liverpool you have won the Carling Cup, with 3 separate managers in charge.

In the same period Chelsea have gone through 4 managers and won the League, 2 FA Cups and the CL. Community Shield is worth a shout I guess if we are counting the Carling Cup for you ;)

There is a clear difference guys. I don't think the tried and true line of 'you spent more money than us' works either. Good luck on the top 4 though, winning 10/11 games on the trot certainly wouldn't be out of the ordinary /-:

Melbourne CFC


Melbourne cfc, I take it you live in Australia, so never even get to see Chelsea play and a you spend all your time on the Liverpool page. some Chelsea fan you are. oh and the ''more money than us'' works fine mate, we have sensible owners where you guys have a sugar daddy, you've got nothing to brag at when nearly all your success has been bought and paid for. Thanks for your LFC obsession though, shows we mean more to you than your own team does. lol


Funny thing is Chelsea have failed to win that small carling cup. So. Yeah.
AnfieldUSA {Ed002's Note - Except 2005 and 2007 of course.}


No mate I haven't seen Chelsea play live, but sometimes, like a miracle I can watch them play week in week out. Remind me, how many times have your sensible owners been to watch Liverpool games? Oh that's right they don't go to games due to receiving death threats for a number of LFC fans.

I come on here generally to poke fun. Our sugar daddy has actually been outspent by your owners in the past 3 windows buddy. Your sensible owners have have spent not so sensible amounts of money on what can only be discriped as overrated players.

My club runs at a profit (£1.2m) while yours runs at a loss. My club was saved from almost going under by an owner our fans appreciate. Your club runs at a loss and the people that take the loss, are abused by your 'fans'. Your 'sensible owners' might sell up as they don't see Liverpool as the project they thought they were.

I spend time on this page because it's humourous listening to how uninformed the majority of posters are.


I was going to to tell melbournecfc to get a life but there's no point because everytime I try to put him in his place ed (probably 02) deletes the post has happened over 3 times

So glory hunting cfc fans are allowed to troll but we can't tell them that they're are persons {Ed002's Note - I don't think any of the Eds would delete reasonable banter with Melbourne or anyone else. The thing is to do is to separate good banter from simple abuse. Something you don't seem good at.}


MR EM, 1. there is this funny thing in our lounge rooms here in australia called a television. It happens to show every Chelsea game live, every week, so i'm pretty sure Melbourne CFC gets to see chelsea play every week. 2. Who cares if Melbourne CFC spends his time on the Liverpool page, he is more than welcome just as everyone else is. 3. Success is success regardless of whether its funded by a " sugar daddy owner'" or a financially responsible owner. Chelseas success over the last 5 or so years is more than ours.


24 Feb 2013 08:42:23
We havn't spent anywhere near your NET spend mate.

Lest us not forget, a lot of our big spending was funded by a Mr Torres, so much of the Carrolll and Suarez money was yours!

Who did you sell to pay for Torres? Nobody?

Chelsea fans talking about money. Ha!

Nobody in the EPL has a higher net spend than Chelsea, wages included!

I love the banter Melbourne mate, but glass houses surely?


Chelsea have also been really good to us, buy players like Torres, Benayoun, Meireles, who have all gone down hill since. And selling us one of the most exciting striking prospects for a mere 12 million. No leave chelsea alone. If they want to the can have Reina and Skrtle for 35 million and sell us juan mata for 12 million. good old Chelsea. Jiminy Cricket


I meant the year we won it, Chelsea failed to win it. My wording in that was completely wrong. My bad!
AnfieldUSA


 

 

23 Feb 2013 18:21:50
We will be seeing you soon Everton, it's gone on quiet on the bitter blue side of merseyside

Ack17


Doesn't seem to be to many coming on here telling us how good they are lol what did we beat Norwich by again.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 18:07:51
I rather keep reina than replace him with al habsi your having a laugh, I can't see that ed02 surely they would kno replacing a club legend with a relgeation battling goalkeeper would not go down well

Thats like replacing suarez with di santo. just no {Ed002's Note - You need to read what was written. You perhaps also want to read what many posters think of Reina as well.}


Al habsi absolutely no way will we sign him.


Al habsi is not the answer to our goalkeeping problem. Guy makes more random errors than Bartez.


Al Habsi is a top keeper and makes less mistakes than Reina at the moment. Thumbs up from me.

Would it be difficult to prize Al Habsi from Wigan eds?

Mighty reds {Ed002's Note - I would think they will listen to reasonable offers.}


Ahoy - let's not get excited about relegation goalkeepers - its classic Chris Kirkland syndrome - if you are in a team that faces 30 shots a game your goalkeeper will look fantastic because he makes loads of saves. Al Habsi Vorm etc are not the answer.

Trust what we have and hope we keep him Reina is quality.


I really, really like Oliver Baumann from Frieburg as our keeper for next year. He will be a very good keeper in a year or two in the right team.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 18:07:23
We need a strong finish from now until the end of the season. I firmly believe quite a few players have let us down this season with there below par performances, which has resulted in our inconsistency. roll on the the summer when we can ship out the under performing players.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 18:02:40
Yes we miss the winning mentality, However if our squad was good enough we would be higher up the table, downing would have scored goals, shelvy would be threatening first team and we would have three goalscorers including borini? Who has failed to score double numbers in his 23 APPEARANCES. _
Our defence has been dire and reina is constantly making mistakes. Your argument that our squad is good enough is thrown out the window mate'
We have a a good young squad but there are 4 teams above us who have a better overall squad: unitee, chelsea, spurs and city. How is our squad good enough, the majority of fans need a reality check#


Borini has only scored once in all his time here!


 

 

23 Feb 2013 18:02:16
Hi eds please post this. I feel Rodgers has done a great job this season so far, with what he has had his disposal and also whilst trying to balancing the books. Also a lot people have not mentioned that Rodgers has got the best out of Suarez this season, he was no where as effective and clinical last season under kenny ( I'm not slating him). Also with the additions with sturridge (who many people didn't want), coutinho, allen (who I think will come good he is only 22). We are playing a much better brand of football this season, a lot of teams can't say they have gone to the emirates or the Etihad stadium and been the dominate team. We have yeh maybe not the right result but that will come in time, when Rodgers is able to bring more players I who are suited for this brand of football. I can sedums being a force in a few years time, us as Liverpool fans have to be patient, I believe the majority of us see the bigger picture. However we have these so called fans who have never set foot inside of anfield believe rodgers shouldn't be there and turn back the times and get rafa. People forget rafa is the one who started this decline. Anywhere these are my thoughts.

Scouse 1892


I agree with everything you said mate apart from Rafa being the one that started the decline. It was Tom & Jerry that started the decline IMO.

Crowman.


Scouse 1892, come on lad to say Rodgers has done a great job this season is stretching optimism to the limit, he is slowly getting there but he has a gigantic way to go before we can heap praise on him.

Also saying he has got the best out of Suarez and implying Kenny didn't is a nonsense comparison, do you not remember what went on last season ( his first full season by the way ), a season fragmented due to the ban and finding his feet in the division plus what he had on his head was hardly a great platform to play well now was it ( that's not down to KK's management )?

More Rafa bashing, some people have short memories! The man won us the European Cup ( to keep by the way ) and almost the League, show the man some respect ffs. If BR does ever win a cup for us some of you will want a statue outside the ground and a stand named after him, get some perspective lad!

Waro


I didn't mean rafa himself but the decline started in his regime, meaning its been going for a while an we no stability since, till now I think. Also I will never forgive rafa to what he did with alonso, trying to make him uncomfortable by chasing Gareth Barry!

Scouse 1892


It was the owners at the time hicks and Gillette but rafa played his part in it too

Ack17


23 Feb 2013 22:04:54
I really have to see a psychiatrist about my inability to refrain from commenting on the Alonso/Barry situation.

But until then:

The pursuit of Barry started in the Summer of 08. Alonso had been very stop start with injuries, patchy form, etc. that year and he'd only really started playing well towards the end of the season. There were a lot of Liverpool fans who saw sense in bringing in Barry to replace him (a few of them kept at it two months into the following season). I wasn't one of them, but that's more to do with my opinion of Barry at the time than my opinion of Alonso.

By summer 2009, Alonso had been one of the best players in the PL, and Barry had just been Barry. So yeah, looked like insanity to replace the former with the latter. And few would admit that just a year earlier, they'd have happily swapped Alonso for Barry.

But that's not when the decision was made. The damage had been done and there was no going back as far as Alonso was concerned and he left. He said in the last few days that he left because the club made him feel 'less important than he thought he should be'. And I bet a lot of people here agreed with him that it wasn't fair.

But if we heard of another player who'd left another club saying that, we wouldn't agree with him, would we? We'd probably hold it up as an example of an arrogant modern footballer with no respect and hark for the days of Tommy Smith and Emelyn Hughes again.


Something Red, I seem to remember Rafa lost it when Alonso refused to travel to a European game when his missus was due to give birth. Now my memory might be getting patchy as I get older but didn't the pursuit of Barry start a short time after that. Whilst none of us are in possession of all the facts I just put 2 and 2 together and figured Rafa saw the refusal to travel as a lack of desire to play for the club and wanted rid.

I am in no place to talk here as I went to see an England game the evening after my daughter was born instead of going to the hospital to visit the wife and baby ( I sent my mum to keep them company and I had been there for the birth), however the birth of a child is something that can never be repeated and I thought Rafa was wrong to be p***ed off in that instance.

ChrisE


24 Feb 2013 08:48:35
To be fair, Suarez's goals to games is higher now than it was with KK. If B. R doesn't get that credit then who does? He gets the credit for Henderson and Downings uplift in form!


 

 

23 Feb 2013 17:04:00
As we all know that we need to buy at least one central defender in summer, what is possibility of buying one of Bruno Martins Indi, Eliaquim Mangala or Inigo Martinez? All young, cheap and allredy quality. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has not shown an interest in any of these players.}


Inigo Martinez will go 30m+ possibly even 40m+

Plymouth Red.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 15:54:26
None of the results
Going our way at half time. looks like we will have to make the rest of the season go our way


23 Feb 2013 16:54:07
Or not mr disagreer, we should instead just sit back and wait for other teams to determine our place!


Well Norwich have done us a favour by beating Everton 2-1. Everton have been a really galvanised squad this season, so Norwich must have battled hard for those three points today, well done to the Canaries, hard lines Everton, suck on a toffee and think of better days, only 3 points.

Everton's next five League games are going to be fun as well. Reading at home, Arsenal away, Man City at home, Stoke City at home and Tottenham away.

Liverpool's next five League games are Wigan away, Tottenham at home, Southampton away, Aston Villa away, West Ham at home. :)

BCDI.


Agree mate, a lot of points we could pick up. Not to mention Chelsea with ginger niño can fall as well. Sparta almost took them out of Europa and they play city tomorrow.


Great possibilities in all our remaining matches. Got to play our strongest 11 in all matches and not rotate squad (sorry group). let's keep Sturridge Surez and Coutino in starting line up. All winnable considering our opponent have other targets e. g. Europa League and EPL position.

Liverno1


 

 

23 Feb 2013 14:04:24
Hi eds even if we fail to achieve top 6 can we get to europa league next season thanks {Ed002's Note - Perhaps by the fair play league.}


There are 3 Europa league places up for grabs and 4 C L places.

Swansea or Bradford take one.
FA cup winners take another.
5th place takes the other.

Other than that it's the fair play league.
If Swansea and the FA cup winners finish in the top 5 then 6th and 7th get a place.

I think 6th place could miss out this season.


We are second behind Arsenal in the fair play league, so we stand a good chance. {Ed002's Note - Assuming England get a slot.}


 

 

23 Feb 2013 13:55:35
From the current LFC squad, those that are good enough IMO are gerrard, sturridge, suarez, agger, reina, johnson, lucas, suso.
The jury is still out on allen,. henderson, borini, enrique and that's being purely based on consistency' worringly though that's a lot of players for any team to prove themselves.
players who just not good enough are downing, shelvy, skittles and carroll. These players have had too much time to prove they are not good enough, downing fails to find consistency and scores little to zilch goals and skrtkl is like reina, can be solid but too many times makes costly mistakes.
We have some outstanding youngsters on the fringes, kelly, sterling, coady to name a few.
In the summer I hope we a top class CB, a top class winger/attacker someone like a honda and a upcoming young keeper if does go' i'd love to suso given a lenghty run in the middle of the field becuase boy this kid has all the attributes to be a mastreo in CM. We will be great again#


Your post lost credibility from the first line onwards, but I think it is best summed up by the fact you called Skrtel "skittles".

Alan Partridge


I don't understand people constantly suggesting Enrique isn't good enough. He has been outstanding.
Hop


Andy Carrol didn't have a lot of time to prove himself considering it takes a while to settle at a new club. I must admit i'm not a fan of his but wish him the best of luck for the future.

Liverno1


 

 

23 Feb 2013 13:55:35
From the current LFC squad, those that are good enough IMO are gerrard, sturridge, suarez, agger, reina, johnson, lucas, suso.
The jury is still out on allen,. henderson, borini, enrique and that's being purely based on consistency' worringly though that's a lot of players for any team to prove themselves.
players who just not good enough are downing, shelvy, skittles and carroll. These players have had too much time to prove they are not good enough, downing fails to find consistency and scores little to zilch goals and skrtkl is like reina, can be solid but too many times makes costly mistakes.
We have some outstanding youngsters on the fringes, kelly, sterling, coady to name a few.
In the summer I hope we a top class CB, a top class winger/attacker someone like a honda and a upcoming young keeper if does go' i'd love to suso given a lenghty run in the middle of the field becuase boy this kid has all the attributes to be a mastreo in CM. We will be great again#


23 Feb 2013 16:56:26
Our squad are all 'good enough', we just need a change in attitude!


Suso good enough? You don't have a clue. Suso, Sterling, Shelvey are all not good enough yet.

Red PG


 

 

23 Feb 2013 13:15:27
I must say I'm constantly baffled by the amount of people willing to take figures such as £50m for Suarez. If he were to leave which I don't believe he will, nor do I want him to, we should be looking at £80m for him. If Ronaldo went for that why can't Suarez? {Ed002's Note - What teams would be willing to pay for Suarez has nothing whatsoever to do with Ronaldo.}


Just a loose comparison Ed, my friend. {Ed002's Note - And a good example as to why it is best to avoid discussion of money.}


Agree £50m £60 I'd rather keep suarez, the guy is class and we're lucky to have. Him. rememberWhen torres Went for £50m the money got absolutely Wasted. {Ed002's Note - Dalglish has gone now.}


As Luis Suarez arrived approximately at the same time as Fernando Torres and Ryan Babel were leaving, it would be difficult to claim that all of the money from the sales was wasted. As for the latest anti-Dalglish snipes, it was Kenny who was in charge when we signed Luis Suarez. Enough said?

Red Owl


And Kenny was in charge when we received 50 million for Torres.

Still, fools like to take a swipe at king Kenny.

We still remember that goal at Stamford Bridge in 86!


Hi ed. Just seen him mentioned and wondered is there interest in ronaldo from anywhere as the media suggest? Could he move in the summer? {Ed002's Note - The issues would be (a) Real Madrid selling when they want him to sign a new contract, (b) a club being able to afford the transfer, and (c) him wishing to leave - why would he want to leave Madrid,.}


I worry for Liverpool next year if suarez goes. the lad is something special.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 12:54:53
LMAO at the 'moan gene' post from below.
I wonder if the ancient Mersey estuary was invaded by a people of moaning barstewards from the boundless Russian steppes in 450 BC?
Maybe there's a prophecy that a GREAT MOANER will rise again and sweep the land, grumbling and bitching, until the optimistic are overcome?
The Juicer


I think that's already happened - the few optimistic posts on here are made by the last survivors who are hiding out in the wilderness that is the Wirral


 

 

23 Feb 2013 12:50:17
Would love to see us sign dries merten and arda turan, both realistic targets, who would add a different dimension to our play.


What about a central defender or two or maybe a strong defensive midfielder genius?

Red PG


 

 

23 Feb 2013 12:36:40
Why does everyone keep on coming up with these stupid player exchange deals or replacements for suarez. This isn't fifa, suarez is a unique player whose playing style is only comparable to ronaldo or messi. Suarez isn't just a lump of a centre foward like higuian, like I said, he is a unique dalglish like maagician. Having 3 quality player would never have the same impact as suarez.

Anonymous woolback


It started for me with Football manager on the Amstrad CPC464, then went to Championship manager 88 on the Amiga 500+, which was fun, although not innocent (it would steal and take hours and hours of devoted gamers lives. ) But it was fun. A simple database archive of then current footballers. When you wanted to make a transfer on the game you could click the ''ex-change'' button and it would offer a list of players to ex-change with either money or a player, it stayed like this until 1996/7 I believe.

Now we have FIFA and this game is truly pathetic for anything other than looks, it's so bleeding unrealistic I have loaned the top players in the game for three seasons running, only having to pay wagers after setting up loan to buy deals which I always renege on, I then loan the same player for another season just paying wagers, it's so crap, unrealistic and offers no genuine challenge. I only did it to prove a point to my mates that FIFA is ultimately rubbish other than looks. The part exchange on that is about as challenging.

So I point to these type of games that are so widely bought that they are almost cult like in mentality, it's a proper zombie class if the Fifa games stimulate the mind. I still play an old school Championship manager game every now and then. Les Ferdinand and Robbie Fowler are my main strikers with an ageing Ian Rush as back up. :)

BCDI.


BCMI, championship manager, with it's expansive and detailed footballer database, allows for a more challenging transfer market so you're spot on in it having a huge following. Anonymous Woolback, you're right as I honestly fail to see how FIFA could live up to a game such as championship manager myself. LMA football manager series would probably be on the same power as the current FIFA games, which I quite enjoyed playing when they were being made. Any personal preference yourself Anonymous Woolback? One thing though, gone are the days when you could set yourself proper challenges such as picking Bradford City, signing Phil charnock and building a UEFA Cup winning team around him.

Cuchulainn's Hounds


Going to bed now.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 12:21:51
Hey ed new rumours going around that FSG are looking for someone to buy a stake in the club and help invest do you think this is the case?

Ed002 is there any truth that fsg are looking for another shareholder to come in?

{Ed002's Note - I am not so sure where these rumours are coming from nor if folks understand the impact of someone buying part of the club from the owners. If a shareholder were to arrive and buy 20% of the club for, say, £100M for want of a number then that money does not go to the club so the situation would remain unchanged.}


Is FSG looking someone to invest but stil control the club ed02 is that what your saying cheers. MATTYLFC {Ed002's Note - No.}


The money goes to Fsg. Its not that hard to understand.

The Irish Rover


FSG (Fenway Sports Group) would be what is invested in, not Liverpool Football Club. Liverpool F. C are owned by FSG. FSG is what people would be investing in. (Please correct if wrong, but that is how i've had it explained to me. )

BCDI. {Ed002's Note - We would do best to avoid discussion of money as clearly the box of rocks paradigm is in force today.}


 

 

23 Feb 2013 11:25:31
Why are people wanting pepe to leave? The bloke is still class we need to b holding on to our truly word class players!


Problem is, he isn't world class
For me, he's made too many errors over the past few seasons and have cost us some vital points
I hope BR let's him go at the end of the season and brings in a quality replacement


If he goes I hope we get top dollar for him unlike our last deal with barca where we got turned over. if they want him he's on a six year deal and the price should reflect that.


Pepe is quality, I don't care for the whole ''World class'' title we seem to through around.

Pepe is quality he's the best keeper we've had in a bloody long time. People see Aguero's goal at City as Pepe's fault, I see it as Skrtel's for not running with his man and leaving him free.

Pepe does make mistakes, every goal keeper does. But he makes vital saves, not every keeper does that. It wouldn't surprise me if people blamed Carragher's back pass on Reina in some way. He's getting stick all over. He's made three costly error's this season, that's not bad at all. But people don't care for facts and just want blood, a lot of folk even want there to be another sacked manager at the season end, makes no sense to me, nonsense.

BCDI.


He is world class. We should not be looking to sell our best players


I think we need to sell him and we can get a better goalkeeper for a lesser price.

Red PG


I think we need to sell him and we can get a better goalkeeper for a lesser price.

Red PG


I think we should bring his old goalkeeping coach back! Xalero was it? He was world class when he was coaching him! Never made so many mistake's!


 

 

23 Feb 2013 09:28:46
DiMaria + Higuain + Alonso for Suarez!
Real ready to to do the deal.

Brad Exclusive.


. however!

We are not. The wages would be astronomically out of our interest.


Hat would be a good deal


What, and we'd completely disregard our wage policy and replace a world class player on circa £100k and replace him with 3 players that would demand a net total of at least 500k a week? Rubbish. All we need is Mertens up front and we'll be sorted.

JFT 96

JP


Higuain plus 30m would do it. We would probably have to pay higuain more than suarez so we would probably have about 20m to spend on another player accounting his wages


PSV are leading the Dutch League, if Mertens doesn't get to play Champions League for PSV next season through automatic qualification, he'll be playing in the Champions League for some other team that does.

I don't think Liverpool will be able to fend off other teams interest in Dries Mertens, so that we sign him. He's in a great position to sign to a top team challenging for 1st place in a league and competing in Europe's elite competition. I think Bayern Munich are said to be looking to replace Robben on the left and there is also talk that Ribery will be allowed to leave as well. So if Pep Guardiola wants Mertens, I think he'll get Mertens over us sadly.

I'd love for him to sign for Liverpool and think he, Suarez and Sturridge would truly rinse the league ragged but I think he's out of are range, irrelevant if Suarez stays to fight for Liverpool or not.

BCDI. {Ed002's Note - And of course Liverpool has not shown any interest in him.}


And a straight swap between Reina and Casillas. NOT

Red PG


 

 

23 Feb 2013 09:19:20
Before Zenit, Assaidi hadnt been playing because he was sick. Rodgers said in a press conference.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 09:04:12
Liverpool will sign josip illicic and dries mertens in the summer.


I saw a gossip site (a primal and primitive one ;) report this but it also included Zaha and it was reported sometime in mid-late Oct 2012.

BCDI.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 08:18:12
One thing I keep finding well odd I guess is why is Carroll not part of Rodgers plans and doesn't fit into the way Rodgers plays. Every game this season we work the ball out to the wing so so well and put a cross in, but we never have anyone in the box, and the players that do get in the box are very small. The Zenit game was crying out for a player like Carroll. We insist in playing in the crosses but isn't that where Carroll fits in best? Plus he isn't too shabby with his feet like!

Not a pop at Rodgers, I 100% trust his judgment and decisions. Just a point to think about.


Ithink sturidge can do verything carrol can plus much more, he may not be as dominant in the air but he can win the ball in the air.

ri red


I was hoping Carroll would be given another chance myself but then after I watched the season review of last season I came to the conclusion that he just isn't that good at all, we gave him a chance and he didn't do anything! He is slow, predictable and when he gets in the box his movement isn't good enough, he doesn't attack the spaces where we put loads of crosses in, Plus his antics off the field helped in our decision that he doesn't have a future at Liverpool, let's be real the only game last season that he played well in was when he came on in FA Cup final! Let me ask you this. what's he done at west ham? They are a team with a manager whos tactics play to his strengths and he ain't done much and hasn't scored many goals.

Ack17


I kinda understand why Rodgers wanted the ''Carroll problem'' out of his hands, it was his chance to start Liverpool a fresh, without the need to worry about all the baggage attached to Carroll, Kenny and Comolli's spending decisions not Rodgers. That's before Carroll as a player is even looked at, lack of running, movement off the ball and tracking back and general mobility to play possession football is the major factor. If he cost £5 million and was happy to sit on the bench with a much lower profile, then I think he might well have stayed with Rodgers.

Ever since Carroll came in at his price the club has at times seemed to be revolving around Carroll, his price tag and his lack of productivity (goals), it only went away after the whole Suarez Evra ordeal. Then it came back and as soon as Rodgers was manager, he was lumbered with questions on the spot about Carroll, in most of his interviews and press conferences. Once the window shut and he was left short a striker/attacker after letting Carroll go on loan he admitted, he would have kept Carroll at Liverpool had he known he was going to be left short for players in the attacking department.

Now we've got Sturridge and he seems to be off to a flying start to his Anfield career scoring 5 goals in 7 games and making 2 assists in the process, (bearing in mind Carroll only scored 6 league goals in 44 appearances and 11 goals in 58 games as his Liverpool total and has been injured for much of this season. ) I think Rodgers has shown Liverpool have moved on from Carroll, although when his loan has finished it will all start up again, hopefully Rodgers still has his fire blanket to smother the problem once again.

BCDI.


Why isn't Carroll part of BR's plans you ask? Answer is he is crap and simply can't score.


I just hope we can get 17 million for him from West Ham. I'll be over the moon if he was sold for that amout. He's not good enough for us.

Red PG


Its because rodgers wants a front 3 of players that can all play up front and on the wing, e.g sturridge, suarez, borini can all do this very well. where as carroll's not really the sort of player you'll find on the wing. d. m. h


 

 

23 Feb 2013 06:47:55
I'm just curious as to the situation with Suso he played a couple of games at the start of the season and now he's warming the bench mostly. I think he's a good player just needs more confidence he's honestly my favourite youth player I would hope that he would get more playing time perhaps a loan would do him some good? Anyone else wanna hop in and give your opinion on him feel free.

AndyKopLiverpool


I agree, I believe he has the most potential out of all our youth players to become world class, just needs the right mentoring/tutoring, his technique is already there. d. m. h


I actually think suso will turn out to be a better player than sterling, he should be given more of a chance

James


Agree on Suso but think because of his inexperience and the position he plays, he probably is best introduced slowly and hopefully into a well oiled winning side so we don't knock his confidence or progression in any way.


I'm loving the fact he's a regular in the first team, he seems really happy and is loving his rookie season as it has been described. He didn't want to go out on loan, it shows he's got the belief in himself at least.

He lacks a touch of pace and think he's somewhat lost out on the wing as Rodgers system is designed for pace but in a more central role he's quality. I'm really enjoying watching the young players learn and apply their crafts to the team.

People on here are as impatient as people in the post office on giro day. We need to give the youth time, they need to grow into the shirt. Suso, Sterling and a few others are all still learning the basics of first team football, it always takes a season or two before players find their potential, rare it's otherwise at such a big club.

BCDI.


I'm loving the fact he's a regular in the first team, he seems really happy and is loving his rookie season as it has been described. He didn't want to go out on loan, it shows he's got the belief in himself at least.

He lacks a touch of pace and think he's somewhat lost out on the wing as Rodgers system is designed for pace but in a more central role he's quality. I'm really enjoying watching the young players learn and apply their crafts to the team.

People on here are as impatient as people in the post office on giro day. We need to give the youth time, they need to grow into the shirt. Suso, Sterling and a few others are all still learning the basics of first team football, it always takes a season or two before players find their potential, rare it's otherwise at such a big club.

BCDI.


23 Feb 2013 17:42:15
i love suso I think he should be played as an attacking midfielder he has the talent to open any defence in my opinion in future he will be turn out to be a very important player.


 

 

23 Feb 2013 06:27:21
Does anyone agree with me that our season has suffered from the fact Carroll was let go. I can't help blaming our flat inconsistent season on the fact we have no plan B. Like barca when plan A works all is well when it doesn't where left with Stirling, downing and Suarez, shelvey all trying to dribble their way through a pack defence. 2nd half on Thursday night was a classic example. If there was extra time we would have continued with the same tactics with no variation. The players must realise that tactics are not working and want the manager to come up with a smart reshuffle to out wit the opposition. When it does not come their heads drop a bit.


What team do you know with a 35 million pound plan B?


You can't outwit the opposition by merely putting on a dimwit.


All of the World Class teams have benches worth well in excess of 35 million.


I'm pretty sure that Carroll wouldn't want to be a bench warmer 'plan B'.

Anyway I would prefer us to buy footballers who can actually play football.


Do they? Seems like a horrible waste of money


Re the poster saying 'benches well in excess of £35m' - yes - but not on just one sub


 

 

23 Feb 2013 00:49:00
Ed002, can you tell me the probability of Ericksen signing, in Urdu? don't lie to me, you're better than that


You could always translate the Ed's reply. haha.

Red PG


 

 

23 Feb 2013 00:53:20
Anyone else think mertens would be a great signing? Psv are top of the league because of him, the guy is an absolute machine. Something like 20+ goals and as many assists this season, extremely quick, fairly experienced at the age of 25, belgian, and would only cost 10-15 million. Downing may be playing well, but I still don't feel he is having an actual impact on the wing. Can the eds let me know whether it will be easy to aquire him?


Dries Mertens has been fantastic for four seasons, first at Utrect getting 7 goals in his first senior season, then he doubled that haul a season later scoring 14 goals for Utrect then PSV snapped him up. He scored 27 goals in 49 games last season for PSV and this season, he's scored 13 goals in 27 matches, so far. The lad is on fire, he would be a great addition to the squad but I don't think we'll be able to sign him as he'llhave other option more lucrative and maybe able to fulfil his ambitions quicker than what we will.

BCDI.


I've bin saying this for 2 years now mate it's a no brainer for me. The guy is class just as good as hazard for me! I'd be over the moon if we signed him!


Extremely difficult


He's better than Hazard, miles better. Someone said 10-15 million. Think it would be more like 20 million. But would be a great signing imo.


Think he will get better options


 

 

23 Feb 2013 00:14:07
Anyone else fancy a front 4 of Sturridge, Suarez, Coutinho and Assaidi? (after his performance against zenit) the skill in that 4 would surely be one of the best in the world and would scare defenses senseless where at any moment they could be taken on.


Assaidi has no end product, i'd much rather Sterling or Downing, at least they get the ball in the box


I'd put Assaidi on the right he's right footed, u can see his great work on the left but when he gets into a good position u can tell he has no left always checking back an passin it back. On the right he could get into great areas for a cross. But also he's very week defensively downing gets back an helps a lot, so I don't see it happening!


Assaidi should play before Sertling in my opinion, we can't risk playing Sterling every game incase it hinders his progress.


What about Sterling's spectacular loss of form of late? A worry that it seemed to occur moments after he signed a new lucrative contract.


Assaidi has no end product, i'd much rather Sterling or Downing, at least they get the ball in the box

JTR
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23 Feb 2013 00:13:35
i see a lot of people giving off that we went out of the europa league yes its disappointing but to blame brenden is clearly wrong who picked the team that won 3-1. carra made a mistake which we have seen all to often this season and this is not brendens fault its the players who don't focus at that moment.
i for one am really impressed by the play we have seen this season which haven't got the results it has deserved but with a natural striker plus more of a goal threat coming from wide areas an the midfield we will see much better results next season. the mistakes which we have seen this season will not be there nxt season as the players are getting used to which postions they need to be in to give the man on the ball more options to play it out.

so all in all stop the moaning an get behind the team the fans were amazing on thursday nyt we need it to be like that every game not just when were up against it or struggling
we ask the players for 90 mins of effort so we have to give them 90 mins of effort its a team game an were the 12th man.


I don't think fans are WRONG to blame BR. It was his tactics which lost us our place in the next round. On the other hand, I doubt we can spend in the summer and can't see world class or even potentially world class players joining us unless we miraculously finish 4th.

Red PG


Wasn't tactics at all mate, it was conceding an away goal


I was referring to his substitutions in the 2nd half mate. He should have played the same team as we have no games this weekend so no question of fatigue or tiredness for a week.

Red PG


Its all well an goood saying there were no games this weekend but we have had a tough run of games which can catch up on players have to look back aswell as forward red pg


 

 

23 Feb 2013 00:09:06
Hi everyone, and thanks ed001 for your prompt response as always even that late at night. How is your daughter? You don't come on as much it is a shame because you always gave good insight. However thankyou to our always ever present ed002 as well. Let's hope we can finish the season at a good position and we can all look forward to a good summer. I have a feeling the next season will be very good.
Hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - she's good mate, her and one of her friends are playing a game that involves singing as loudly and out of tune as possible. It is called Sing Star apparently, though it seems a lot more like Screech Star. How are you mate? And the family?}


Thank you we are all fine and with sore throats after yesterday's match. Make sure you come on more often, I know it is difficult sometimes but we started this site with you, keep up the hard work.
Hibsylfc


 

 

 
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