Liverpool Banter Archive August 23 2017

23 Aug 2017 23:06:57
Breathtaking going forward, what a third goal!

But once again - the defence was exposed. Lovren and Moreno, sorry we will not win anything with those two.

23 Aug 2017 23:36:28
We won this game with those two.

23 Aug 2017 23:49:04
The more I look at the third goal, the better it gets.

Firmino shows for the ball on the halfway line, and lays it off perfectly, whilst under pressure, for Wijnaldum. Mane's right on the shoulder of the defender, times his run well, and Wij picks him out first time with a perfect pass. Look at how much he has to put on that ball to take the fullback out, that's very easily overhit. Firmino's also on the move, immediately trying to get back with the play after the layoff. Mane realises he only has Salah in the box, so instead of just driving full pace at the defender and hoping to get lucky, he has the intelligence to slow down enough for Firmino to arrive and picks him out with the backheel. Salah moves towards the penalty spot attracting the attention of two defenders, leaving a giant hole at the back post. Emre Can started his run from center circle roughly when Mane reached the pass, so I reckon he makes up 50 yards or so in about 6 or 7 seconds, and Firmino has the vision and technique to pick him out first time.

As good a team goal as I've seen us score in a long time.

24 Aug 2017 00:03:08
Qualifying matches?

24 Aug 2017 02:54:07
Great goal. Gini's through ball for Mane is mouth-watering.

24 Aug 2017 06:06:16
Firminos was even better!

23 Aug 2017 23:04:45
Great win tonight I thought mane, salah, can were brilliant. But firmino was just different gravy.
I don't need to say anything about lovren apart from klopp sort it out asap.

24 Aug 2017 08:20:28
What did Lovren actually do wrong?

23 Aug 2017 23:00:23
Put the kettle on. Let's celebrate. X.

23 Aug 2017 22:43:40
I see Gerrard on BT sports, when asked who should Liverpool sign, he defensively said "I Can't name any players"

Do you think the club know their mistakes and are coaching people who interact with media or just the persons themselves realising it's not good to mention names?

23 Aug 2017 23:01:02
Think he's enough sense not to give names out.

24 Aug 2017 01:52:53
He also said a central defender and central midfielder - he didn't name names, but it seemed obvious who he was talking about.

23 Aug 2017 22:29:24
managed to bag some decent tickets for tonight, good game, Mane run them ragged.

23 Aug 2017 23:09:22
not only great on attack. mane was there to cover moreno when needed as well.

23 Aug 2017 23:39:40
Moreno was poor and bloody rash with them challenges, just frustrates me so much, he was getting called alsorts by some members of the crowd sadly.

23 Aug 2017 23:42:28
Good man Mike. Mane looked superb on the telly. So did TAA.

23 Aug 2017 22:22:16
Really excited. if couts goes it will be a blow but we can live without him. if mane gets a injury we are screwed lol.
Is it just me. are we the only team that's fans worry even when we are 6.3 up. lolol.

23 Aug 2017 23:20:43
I was worried too.

23 Aug 2017 22:19:17
Just a quick word on Alexander-Arnold. The thing that strikes out to me about him is his desire to get past his man and attack the opposition with such confidence. I've noticed in the recent past how our academy products tend to get to their man and then hesitate and either go backwards or sideways. Trent just ran at them instead, and although not always successful, which was refreshing to see. He reminded me of a young Dani Alves tonight (ok maybe overstretching it a little) and who knows, if he continues to kick on and put the graft in he could sort out our right back position for a long time to come and become a top quality player.

23 Aug 2017 22:27:07
A. C. I couldn't agree more.

23 Aug 2017 23:00:48
Great post we have a real gem on our hands what do you think his best position will be he has played more advanced.

23 Aug 2017 23:00:54
here here.

23 Aug 2017 23:06:29
He is absolutely destined to make it at the highest level. I am convinced.

I went to the Watford game and he was practicing crosses in the pre match warm up. I noticed that none of them went above head level. Aside from the free kick which was at head level I've also noticed his corners and crosses are not clearing the front man. I don't think it's technique. I have the feeling he is trying to whip them in at that height rather than float them in. .

I'm relatively clueless about Tactics so I'm curious if this is what he is being asked to do.

23 Aug 2017 23:44:47
Its about abilty and confidence also. Several of recent young players had that "take on" attitude. Jordon Ibe was a bright prospect, but his take ons went all so predictable, and into the defenders legs. Jordons main problem was the lack of natural football feeling. I belive TAAs strongpoint compared to Ibe, is his ability to take the right decitions. When to go, when to stay.

24 Aug 2017 15:20:40
Lads going to be class I think.

23 Aug 2017 22:17:59
Ray houghton on LFC TV is just staring at the camera and looks pretty weird ha ha ha 😂😂😂.

23 Aug 2017 22:08:27
It's good to be back🔴🏆.

23 Aug 2017 22:02:22
Did I just heard Klopp say that with CL now they can sign contracts and fulfill our ambitions, is he implying Can and new players?

23 Aug 2017 23:38:10
I actually went back and listened to the youtube clip of this 3 times. It's open to interpretation. He could have meant what you said. It can also be taken to mean that being in the Champions League is what he talks about "when extending contracts, signing new players and talking about fulfilling dreams".

I hope it means we have a busy week ahead. Get in a CB, and a defensive midfielder. If Coutinho leaves, he leaves.

23 Aug 2017 22:01:08
I just want to say one thing. Take a bow Bobby! What a player! So intelligent, his movement, his defensive contribution, his ball control in tight areas and his vision to pick a pass! If he had just a bit more pace he would be unplayable. we don't need a striker we need classy midfielder and cb and we are good to go!

23 Aug 2017 22:07:20
B-b-but he doesn't score enough goals!

j/ k, the guy's absolutely brilliant.

But just for people obsessed with numbers, fairly sure I read something last season that showed in nearly every stat other than goals scored (assists, chance creation, distance dribbled, passes), Firmino was ahead every other center forward in the EPL, La Liga or Bundesliga.

23 Aug 2017 22:12:33
And a keeper, wtf was Migs doing today xD thought he was trying out for the circus juggling 😂.

23 Aug 2017 21:59:43
I think we need to all take our hats off to Bobby F tonight. What a performance! What we also need to understand is, he was not only playing against his old club, but one of his closest LFC companions is caught up in one of the biggest stories of the 2017 transfers. He was BRILLIANT tonight and I have a lot of respect for the guy.

23 Aug 2017 21:54:21
Jurgen. "that's football. that's Football". class manager.!

23 Aug 2017 21:50:45
We Are Back. YNWA.

23 Aug 2017 21:44:24
Now we buy players.

23 Aug 2017 21:47:52
The payments for CL participation pale into insignificance compared with EPL.
So I, unfortunately, don't buy into that we had to qualify for CL Group stage before purchasing.

Plus we have already brought Robertson, Salah and Solanke in.

23 Aug 2017 21:51:39
I think it's more the prestige of the champions league then the money side agger.

23 Aug 2017 21:53:15
AggerDo, don't know why you or anyone would believe that. We are already flush with cash and we did bid 75m for Keita and was ready to drop mad cash for VVD (had their teams accepted to do business with us) way before the CL playoff so again, I don't understand this idea that we needed CL first to sign players.

{Ed001's Note - we are not flush with cash.}

23 Aug 2017 21:59:23
Interestingly, did anyone hear Klopp mention pre match that every player you talk to to sign or for a new contract talks about champions league?

Might of been nothing but may actually mean that certain deals have been waiting to go tthrough depending on whether we qualify.

24 Aug 2017 06:35:16
My point exactly George. Elite players demand to play with/ against other elite players. To think otherwise is to live in fantasy land.

24 Aug 2017 07:21:57
Bingo, my point is exactly that. We have bid, and bought, before securing CL qualification so those who think we will now sign 5 players off the back of being in group stages will be disappointed.

23 Aug 2017 21:42:12
We seriously need good cb's if klopp can't see that he needs specssavers!

23 Aug 2017 21:47:02
Stop mourning at least for today, leave room for victory to preveil.

23 Aug 2017 21:54:08
I'm delighted we won but won't go far with that defence it need sorting asap.

23 Aug 2017 21:59:06
Jay, can you just be happy for five minutes? Good Grief!

23 Aug 2017 22:20:00
I am delighted bingo but it's horrible when teams attack that's all I'm saying pal.

23 Aug 2017 23:16:45
Now I can celebrate last season's 4th place job done.

23 Aug 2017 21:38:07
Just want to say, hats off to Moreno. He's no world beater but he's proved that with hard work, you can find a way back into the team even when everyone thought (myself included) that he would never start again. Well done Alberto. 😢.

23 Aug 2017 21:43:11
Diving into tackles again he's a liability in defence! Going forward yes but defence he's dirt!

23 Aug 2017 21:43:51
Just wish he could defend cause he seems a great lad.

23 Aug 2017 21:44:03
in listening to the match it sounded as if he was out of position quite a bit, was that the case?

23 Aug 2017 21:48:12
Moreno can't pass cross or defend but yeah amazing *rolls eyes*.

23 Aug 2017 21:48:45
I said he was no world beater. He looked good going forward. Wasn't that bad at the back either (compared to usual) . Was just showing a bit of appreciation for someone who has worked hard and fought his way back into the team.

23 Aug 2017 21:52:06
Moreno's fine until you knock a diagonal ball over him or chip one in behind him. He's more or less guaranteed to let someone run off him or just outright lose the flight of the ball when that happens.

I like the guy and would love him to succeed because he runs himself into the ground every match and we need more players who'll do that, but he is just not good enough defensively and he won't ever be. Once Robertson's up to full fitness, expect Moreno to be clear 2nd choice.

Lovren's been absolutely shocking so far this season, so the left side of our defence is a problem area at the moment.

23 Aug 2017 21:55:22
I'd work hard for 50k a Wk!

23 Aug 2017 21:56:48
What how many times does he get pulled out of position in a game way to many times.

23 Aug 2017 21:56:50
Have anyone seen Kyle Walker play these days. He is a £50 mill professional who can't cross lol!

23 Aug 2017 22:00:19
I think people just remember how bad he was been and automatically ignore how he has quite clearly improved recently. He's still no rock at the back, but he is becoming more positionally aware and has improved drastically at picking the right pass and timing his runs going forward. People will say he was out of position for the first goal against us tonight, but careless play from Lovren led to that whilst Moreno was on his way toward, there's no reason why he should expect Lovren to play such an awful pass. Add into that Lovren lost the aerial battle for the second goal against us I think he has been more of a liability recently than Moreno has been. Would rather see Lovren replaced as at least Moreno is showing visible improvement. Lovren seems to be turning the odd mistake into weekly screw ups. Shame, cus when he's got his heads screwed on he's pretty solid.

23 Aug 2017 22:02:07
Who said he was "amazing " Danielb2103? Certainly not me. I just said he's worked hard to get back into the team. It's like some fans want players to fail.

23 Aug 2017 22:02:24
Moreno was good today cos he was not required cos technically, we had one of the midfield 3 covering for him (which was the plan, I think) . He did what he had to do and caused them probs offensively. If you are looking for him to shut down a winger then, I would not hold my breathe for any of that. BTW, TAA was out of position a bit too but like Moreno, the midfield made it a duty to cover for the FB's.

23 Aug 2017 22:03:58
Ok who else should we rubbish now?

23 Aug 2017 22:17:34
I'm just really happy with the win personally. There are still questions to be asked of certain players but I'm not entertaining that tonight. Great win. Looking forward to the draw tomorrow. 😎.

23 Aug 2017 21:36:46
Firmino different class 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻.

23 Aug 2017 21:56:37
Makes the frontline tick glad he's in my fantasy footy 11 go bobby.

23 Aug 2017 21:34:55
Great performance - loved every minute of it!

As an added positive I will now get to go to my first champions league game at Anfield 👍🏼 Win - win

We've been sensational going forward. With that being said, question marks still remain over Lovren. As a pairing, him and Moreno don't work.

Moreno was good tonight but he needs a LCB next to him to cover for his inadequacies - not compound them!

The signing of a CDM would still be my preference too - Krykowiak on a loan to buy, anyone?

23 Aug 2017 21:41:13
Great performance and result but sorry Moreno was terrible. Like a headless chicken with ADHD.

23 Aug 2017 21:28:43
My preferred group opponents are.

Barcelona
RBL
Celtic

Well done LFC, Klopp and Anfield tonight.

23 Aug 2017 21:11:32
Firmino has been unreal, making such a nuisance of himself.

23 Aug 2017 20:50:26
TAA has such a wicked delivery on him!

23 Aug 2017 20:44:50
Just heard
Howedes on our radar
£18M for a 29 YO.

23 Aug 2017 20:50:24
in this market bargain.

23 Aug 2017 21:22:05
Can we have him by the weekend?

23 Aug 2017 20:42:21
You'll probably all slate me for this but where is this famous anfield atmosphere?! A part from the first 10 minutes it's like watching them play in a museum! We're playing some brilliant attacking football and the atmosphere just seems flat! It might be different being there live but watching on TV it seems dead! Anfield should be bouncing!

Fantastic attacking performance so far! 3rd goal was pure class! Questionable defensively again though, for me Lovern and Moreno are the weak links in the team, although Moreno has been great going forward. More goals to come hopefully!

{Ed001's Note - if it is the same live feed that Bein have got, the crowd volume was turned down partway through so that the commentary could be heard more clearly. It has made it sound terrible, no idea if it is anything like as bad at the ground, but it is impossible to judge from the TV pics tonight.}

23 Aug 2017 20:45:55
Same with the Celtic match on BT yesterday. Could hardly hear the fans after about 5 minutes of the game.

23 Aug 2017 22:10:24
Was watching on German TV too (pls, don't ask why) and the volume seemed to be turned down too as it seemed that there was no atmosphere at the ground either.

23 Aug 2017 22:13:30
That's what I hate about UCL coverage, the crowd volume is always turned down - at least in australia when UCL has always been either ESPN or BeIn. It's some shitty american thing.

23 Aug 2017 20:40:18
Moreno is slowly turning the time keep going lad and you will convert more and more on the way.

23 Aug 2017 20:49:28
I think we should all get off his back, he'll be a player As he gets older.

23 Aug 2017 20:51:47
Exactly too many blinded fans listen to the media and don't actually watch a player perform.

23 Aug 2017 20:34:38
Brilliant attacking football that half. Need to put this game to bed now and finish of the chances we get.

23 Aug 2017 20:11:07
Gutted i've been on Night Shifts for both our Play Off games. : (.

23 Aug 2017 20:41:18
Well the good news Lamborini is that I haven't. :)

23 Aug 2017 20:07:15
I think we're in the process of administering a serious pasting.

23 Aug 2017 20:15:05
But the left side of our defence is still pants.

23 Aug 2017 20:38:46
Moreno has been class what game are you watching?

23 Aug 2017 20:38:46
Seems that's where all their chances are coming from. Moreno is really trying hard. He's done well going forward but defensively.

23 Aug 2017 20:43:33
The game where they scored from our left channel the first time they tried to play their way in there?

23 Aug 2017 20:44:45
And to be perfectly straight I'm looking more at Lovren today rather than Moreno. But they don't do each other any favours.

23 Aug 2017 20:48:59
Give the lad a break unreal the way he can do no right in some eyes.

23 Aug 2017 19:50:11
RedOne, that's a really offensive post. Moreno is an LFC player wearing the LFC shirt. That's enough to demand that we support him, regardless of what we think of his ability. Call yourself a fan - jeez!

23 Aug 2017 19:15:25
Can't see why he dropped Robertson! Moreno is a liability! Rafa stuff that play a good game and then he drops the player!

{Ed001's Note - he is not fit enough, the lad hasn't had a proper preseason. I keep telling you all this, he is not ready for two games a week yet. He struggled to get through the game at the weekend.}

23 Aug 2017 19:32:47
Sorry I thought he was good to go! Cheers for the update ed01 👍🏼.

{Ed001's Note - no mate, he is not fully 100% ready yet. It will take a few weeks as he is behind and it is now impossible to do a preseason with him.}

23 Aug 2017 20:39:10
Ed1 are we doing any closed doors games for him to get a bit of match fitness? Remember we used to do that at some point but it didn’t last long iirc xD.

{Ed001's Note - there is no need, we have plenty of games for him to play. I expect him to start at the weekend.}

23 Aug 2017 19:08:44
Does anyone know a site or anything that can watch match tonight if you haven't got bt sport? Any help appreciated.

23 Aug 2017 19:27:29
Try a live stream on YouTube they usually work for me.

23 Aug 2017 19:33:14
Try Zorrostream mate - quality isn't always the best but fairly consistent and you can watch the game (the whole point of everything! ) . Cric free tv is also very consistent but tends to be slightly less good in terms of quality.

23 Aug 2017 19:33:51
Best site for live stream. navixsport.

Now let's hope I don't need to change my name for until next year 😂.

23 Aug 2017 20:18:50
It's on RTE Player too, but I'm not sure if that works outside Ireland.

23 Aug 2017 20:39:19
Cric tv I think or Cric sport.
Firstrow, VIP box.

23 Aug 2017 18:27:40
Whoever is lucky enough to be going to the game tonight be loud and get behind the team. Make yourself the 12th man in what will be a nervy night.

23 Aug 2017 18:09:33
A big win needed tonight, on way to ground shortly. Anny upper is were I will be cheering us on.

Ed001 will you be watching mate from home with a few jars?

I need to ask also mate, have you heard anything else within the club as regards to VVD? I remember you explaining the feeling within is that he will arrive. Its getting late on the window now that's all, I guess all the Pipco stuff has put everything else in hold.

{Ed001's Note - I miss going the games! Though I don't miss my stupid superstitions of having to go to the City Centre to walk from there, rather than just walking from home, as we won once when I had to go on an errand before the match!

I don't drink mate, but I will be having lots of ginger tea as my throat gets very sore from swearing at the TV!

Last I heard is they are still hopeful on Saints deciding to let him go, though there has been no sign of Southampton softening their stance yet.}

23 Aug 2017 18:20:52
Lol. Cheers for reply mate. Not sure about the Ginger tea though lol. I have my superstitions also and i've tried everything.

Lets hope for a win mate and then hopefully get a few through the door before close of window.

Enjoy.

{Ed001's Note - ginger tea is great for a sore throat.}

23 Aug 2017 17:57:11
Can anybody recommend a Kodi addon for streaming the match tonight? Don't mind paying, cheers guys.

23 Aug 2017 18:10:22
Sports devil has been OK so far.

23 Aug 2017 18:15:54
Use Mobdro.

23 Aug 2017 18:33:52
prosport is the best hands down. or "soccerstreams" sub reddit on computer or phone.

23 Aug 2017 12:35:08
Hi ed002, any plans on making a new 'multi club' podcast? will be interesting to hear the likely business set to be concluded in the premier league.

{Ed002's Note - There was one last week. I am travelling now for a couple of days but the Euro one will be next.

23 Aug 2017 20:44:29
You guys do podcasts too?
Brilliant. you guys do it all huh?! 😆
Will definitely tune in for those.

23 Aug 2017 16:30:52
Apparently any new bid will be turned down as we don't need the money,
So things could very well pick up in the next few days 🤞🏻.

23 Aug 2017 18:30:46
I know we don't need the money but do u honestly think us fans want him to stay now. He's starting to act like a spoilt child get the money and sign someone who wants to b here ( preferred not to be Brazilian)

23 Aug 2017 22:15:38
No reports that a new bid has actually been submitted.

Report seems to originate from ESPN which has a click bait headline - "Barcelona lodge fourth bid, now worth £138m for Philippe Coutinho" - but when you read the article it starts with "Barcelona are preparing a staggering fourth offer. "

So, they are the same as every other website in predicting that a new offer is "being prepared" - you know, fax machine warming up, chairman's assistant's typing fingers flexing etc.

So basically, some more non-news whilst trying to increase their impressions!

23 Aug 2017 16:16:41
A father and son were eating breakfast. The father's newspaper had the headline, "Van Gogh sold for £8 million".

The son asked "Is he worth all that money, Dad? "

The father, surprised at his son's interest in fine art, replied "I suppose so, son. Why do you ask? "

The son said "Well, Liverpool paid more than that for Lazar Markovic, and he was Cr*p. "‏.

23 Aug 2017 16:30:15
This is poor Daz, i expect better from you 😉.

23 Aug 2017 17:14:44
I'll get your coat Daz😀.

23 Aug 2017 17:21:35
On a other lighter note, due to being too old, slow and over weight I'd like to announce my retirement from international football as well today.

23 Aug 2017 17:36:11
Ha ha I don't look like Klopp, we should probably sign you to replace Couts then 🤣.

23 Aug 2017 23:01:55
I feel I have let you all down, especially you MK!

I shall grab my coat and return once I find my dignity! 😞.

23 Aug 2017 16:02:38
So kondogbia has moved, strootman looks like moving and we show no interest, we can take it klopp does not see the need for a holding mid then. No wonder our defence struggles looks like it's all about the attack.

23 Aug 2017 16:06:11
Neither of those are good enough, some of these suggestions are so poor.

23 Aug 2017 16:45:18
If all cats are white, are all white things cats?

If two defensive midfielders aren't wanted by Klopp, does Klopp not like all defensive midfielders?

You failed on your logical deductions test there RNred.

23 Aug 2017 17:44:14
HX if Stootman is good enough for Juve he's good enough for us.

23 Aug 2017 18:50:24
Cobra like borini and aquilani were good enough for Roma but were useless for us? They aren't bad players but it doesn't work like that. Different league, different style, different mangers, different teams.

23 Aug 2017 15:36:24
I think if we score more than hoffenheim tonight we should go through.
Anyone agree?

23 Aug 2017 15:40:53
Not if we score in our own net.

23 Aug 2017 15:43:21
Obviously even if we score the same we through, but we play too win, I would like gini in more advanced role likes a goal at anfield an can play killer pass we need too use him better like in last 3rd ov pitch through hendo an can behind him.

23 Aug 2017 15:44:40
Duh xD.

23 Aug 2017 15:51:57
That is the hope, Benny.

23 Aug 2017 16:13:16
Benny is owen in disguise ;)

23 Aug 2017 16:46:05
What if they're ruled offside?

23 Aug 2017 17:15:19
Couldn't disagree more, Bunny.

23 Aug 2017 22:17:09
Benny, I think you may be onto something there mate.

Ever thought about a career as a pundit? ;)

23 Aug 2017 15:24:06
i can't understand people complain that we don't have plan b. mo slah is plan b and he is already here. the point is to get the ones whose going to improve our first team rather than squad players whose just going to block our young lads to develop.

23 Aug 2017 16:20:40
We need squad players also r bench couldn't beat league1 sides we need depth in the bench as well as starters.

23 Aug 2017 17:24:09
It would be unfair for our bench to go up against a league one side they'd have a 5 man advantage.

23 Aug 2017
New image uploaded to the
Liverpool Player Sightings page entitled, The fastest cure for back pain

23 Aug 2017 15:22:37
Love it 😂.

23 Aug 2017 13:50:15
barcalonas negotiations for SERI from nice have broke down last night maybe this is why Barcelona are coming in with a desperate last bid.

23 Aug 2017 14:04:36
We he was very poor yesterday and I fail to understand how would he fit in with their pass and move style! He played as a holding midfielder and certainly not the one Barcelona are looking at!

23 Aug 2017 14:09:17
Did he get cold feet?

23 Aug 2017 15:54:06
Barca have always been a day late and a dollar short regarding the Cou issue and right now, the case is closed as Cou and Klopp will deal with things in house. Barcelona can bid till they're blue in the face. Cou is staying and that's that. On to Hoff.

23 Aug 2017 16:01:57
Nice one Dennis 😂.

23 Aug 2017 16:14:59
To good not to say it Ron.

23 Aug 2017 13:44:48
So the next offer for Coutinho will be £101m guaranteed. This is apparently what Liverpool wanted. Along with a load of maybe clauses being triggered. But would Liverpool be happy with the way the £101m is paid? It'll likely be staggered payments so that could be a stumbling block.

Anyway I think he'll probably leave now as he's willing to go to the lengths of feigning injuries and illnesses, refusing to train etc. But I think it's a good move for Liverpool if he does go. I also said last week that after today when you qualify for pot 3, it'll be a busy week of transfers.

My question is what would be satisfactory transfer business if Coutinho is sold? I mean the general consensus is Keita, VVD, OX and a sorry to use this word, but a "Marquee". Who would be the marquee signing? And would it be a similar position or a striker?

23 Aug 2017 14:07:13
The question is not his value! The question remains is it worth selling him for any money now? Would the club find a replacement in 8 days now everyone knows we have the money?

23 Aug 2017 14:10:51
Insigne, closest thing to a like for like signing, quick, good passing range, superb free kick taker and can pick a pass as well as being hard to knock off of the ball.

23 Aug 2017 14:13:19
VVD (or alternate), and Keita (or Kovacic) and then yes we can afford to let him go as overall it'll be a good window even if I still hope he stays.

23 Aug 2017 14:16:18
I'm sure the club are working very hard behind the scenes WCD. If he goes there will be sufficient strengthening. And what would he be like as a player if he's forced to stay? His confidence could be shattered. He may get treated differently by other players in the dressing room. Like Ronaldo I think sometimes you have to let them go if the money is right.

23 Aug 2017 14:18:14
If Coutinho is sold (which 175 million dollars is a lot of money so I'd say it's a definite possibility FSG accept) then I would expect a replacement for his position (Meyer, Seri or Kovacic if we're stumping up cash -- Meyer would be my pick, btw -- and VVD or Keita if possible. Ox wouldn't be a bad shout but it might be better to wait for him to run his contract out as its not a position we need while Can, Wiz and Milner are still on the books (not to mention Grujic) . Personally, I still feel letting Coutinho go without a clear replacement available (Lallana being out as well) is a bad decision but I can't moan about it if he's being sold for nearly twice as much money as Suarez was. Reinvesting it in the squad can't be done if the players aren't available (Luan has ownership issues, Keita and VVD's clubs don't want to sell, Seri doesn't like the cold, Kovacic is expensive) . There's really no excellent way out of this. only a best of the worst scenario.

23 Aug 2017 14:30:25
Well what are the real chances to land any of those names?
Real would ask for insane money for Kovacic ( they would need to find a replacement )
Keita - Well we know what's going on
Meyer - He is not an experienced candidate to fill Coutinho boots.
Insigne - The most appropriate. Napoli would squeeze the mill and blood out of us!

And what about the time to settle in for these names!

23 Aug 2017 14:54:04
WCD - I don't look at it that way. I look at it as Saturday's match-day squad with Keita, VVD, Lallana, Clyne, Ox and potentially a marquee signing added to it. Or last season's match-day squad with Salah, Robertson, Sturridge, Keita, VVD, Ox and potentially a star name added.

23 Aug 2017 15:13:28
Really Sydney? VVD, Ox, Keita and another star name just because Coutinho leaves?
Here's how it is going to pan out:
Coutinho stays
VVD signs
Keita stays at RBL
Ox goes to Chelsea.

23 Aug 2017 15:16:19
Got to laugh at Guillem Balague's back tracking. Sometimes it's best to just keep an open mind when the transfer window is still open. Tweeting saying Barcelona concede defeat bla bla is just dumb. It's like he's their puppet.

23 Aug 2017 15:59:03
A good move for the club would be to keep hold of Coutinho. There's a reason Barcelona are willing to spend a fortune on him and that's because he is a world class player approaching his prime. If we want to win trophies we must keep our best players, not sell them and buy young players with potential who will take years to reach the level of Coutinho. Unless we are happy fighting for fourth spot every season of course. It seems to me like some fans don't care who leaves the club as long as we buy buy buy.

23 Aug 2017 16:01:37
I am baffled as to why people are mentioning replacements that clearly we won't get. VVD, Keita, Insigne, Meyer, and Kova will NOT happen cos a) no one will sell their best players to us with 8 days left in the window and b) they will shiv us for all the money we have.

For me, Barcelona can bid till they are blue in the face. Cou has already back-tracked via his camp and cos Barcelona lost Seri, they now want to bid again? If they are incompetent, that is not our problem. If we sell, we will regret it, big time and I don't think we will anyway. Barcelona should leave us alone and stop stalking us and our players cos this is becoming creepy.

23 Aug 2017 16:32:13
BR, It's a simple case of a club wanting to buy a player and that player wanting to join that club.

Stop listening to Balague as the guy is merely guessing. Listen to the editors. Seri this, Seri that.

There was always going to be a 4th bid. Seri may have been a bluff, although probably will sign eventually.

Seri an alternative, using the media to say deal almost done (Balague puppet), saying deal for Coutinho taken off the table. All tactics to try and force Liverpool to consider selling as they know keeping an unhappy player isn't feasible.

23 Aug 2017 12:48:43
Long time reader, 1st time poster. I was just wondering, apart from the Eds and Macca, has anyone on here genuinely predicted a transfer that the rest of us were unaware off? Thanks.

23 Aug 2017 13:35:01
I think square tomato might have?
I know Waro used to get team reports as well before anyone else.
I used to get little snippets about the club but that's dried up.
The rest of us are here for the banter.

23 Aug 2017 13:58:29
I personally rate Nevada for info relating to Spanish clubs/ players and The Real AG for info on the academy. Chiefscout seems genuine too and tends to get info on the singing of younger players from my memory. Square Tomato is a good insider on the squad morale and players leaving as he knows Joe Gomez. Ed001 gets decent info out of LFC, as does Macca, but Ed002 must be some kind of super agent because he knows everything!

The real god of rumours though is Alansbarnet 😂 he has got it absolutely spot on all 4 times we have signed Keita this summer. I just wish we'd stop selling him back to RBL the next day. Must be some laundering going on there.

23 Aug 2017 14:11:59
Nabby is on Location, Location, Location tonight MK.

23 Aug 2017 14:22:01
And Coutinho is on
Place in the Sun Mr Dennis.

23 Aug 2017 11:35:39
I used to like Barcelona, but this has now dragged on for too long, and the timing and dust they're creating is just unbelievable. I'm thousands of miles away, and I feel unsettled by all of these, so you must be iron-clad if you're Countinho and others directly in the eye of the storm if you're pretending not to be unsettled!

23 Aug 2017 11:51:48
I bet Southampton fans feel the same about Liverpool 😁.

23 Aug 2017 11:51:48
I bet Southampton fans feel the same about Liverpool 😁.

23 Aug 2017 13:03:18
So true it was posted twice.

23 Aug 2017 13:36:42
Barcelona are well known in Spain for underhand tactics according to my friend in Bilbao. They'd much prefer to sell to Real Madrid or anyone else.
But this is all a bit rich as we are deploying the same tactics ourselves. When it potentially saves several million on transfer fees morals can unfortunately be thrown out of the window.
We can't cry over it until we clean up our own act first. Then we can get back to doing what we do best - complaining.

23 Aug 2017 16:08:28
Every club like to muscle the smaller ones so nothing is new there. Barcelona like us, are very arrogant and they can be cos they have been successful at doing it in the past so why not keep doing it esp. when we have turned the player's head and turned him against his club. Now, they are sad cos they are not getting their way and they are now pouting like a cry-baby who did not get his favorite toy. Cou is not for sale and that is that.

23 Aug 2017 10:56:17
With only a short amount of time left in the transfer window I think we're still short 3 players especially if big Phil goes I'd love to see a cb come in and with the vvd deal looking unlikely I'd love us to test Spurs resolve with a bid for alderwield as it's looking like he won't sign a new contract I'd also like a cm either keita or kovacic and then maybe a player like insigne or Brandt I know I'm dreaming but we're aloud dream aren't we and on a final point best of luck to the lads tonight.

23 Aug 2017 11:34:50
We need atleast one CB and a CM. Also need a lot of drills in set piece defending.

23 Aug 2017 11:22:09
Alderwireld be a great signing and probly a lot cheaper than vvd. I think we need some cover for the wings aswell can't rely on mane and salah every game especially with the amount of games we will have this season. Think keita balde would be a good signing and like you say kovacic would be a great addition.

23 Aug 2017 11:53:23
Alderweireld would not be a lot cheaper than VVD, Daniel Levy is the same man who robbed City of £50m for Kyle Walker, I can only imagine what he'd want for Spurs' best defender.

23 Aug 2017 11:54:57
Leeboy they sold walker for 50 mil and Toby is a better playes. Levy would not let him go unless it was a lot more than that' so I fail to see how's it's a cheaper option.

23 Aug 2017 11:55:43
Yeah how would Alderweireld be cheaper? He'd cost a ridiculous fee but, unlike Walker, would at least be worth it (relatively speaking) .

23 Aug 2017 13:42:19
I'd happily see us pay 60m+ for Alderweireld.

23 Aug 2017 16:13:49
Good grief! If you think Alderweireld (who is much better than VVD) is cheaper than VVD then I fear for you.

23 Aug 2017 10:37:12
Did I just read this right on Sky? Apparently Barcelona are struggling to sign Dembele because they think Klopp is interfering!

Does that mean;
1) we are trying to line up Dembele to replace couts perhaps? Or
2) Barcelona are willing to try anything to make Liverpool/ Klopp look bad to get Couts?

Either that or it's terrible journalism!

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any intereference in the potential transfer of Dembele, and if there were it would be show stiopping for Klopp on a personal basis. (1) Liverpool has no interest in Ousmane Dembele. (2) Barcelona don't need to do anything to get Liverpool and Klopp to look bad.

I would suggest it would be more likely that a recent note from Dortmund that they would ensure that Klopp's home which is let to Dembele is in the condition it should be would be issue here.}

23 Aug 2017 12:05:01
I heard Klopp had let himself in with his spare key and was leaving post it notes all over the house saying "i'd love to have you at LFC"

23 Aug 2017 12:47:23
🤣🤣🤣🤣 that's why I love this site. Thanks Ed002 and for the splendid work you do. I know some of us cheese you off at times but we love you 😘.

23 Aug 2017 09:32:37
Hi ed,
Are we interested in howdese instead of vvd.
Have we enquired?
Do you think player is good?

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any approach at this time.}

23 Aug 2017 09:10:25
Good morning everyone, big night tonight I really hope the defensive side of our game holds out tonight, get the win and we might just see a flurry of activity this transfer window. Fingers, toes, and eyes crossed.

23 Aug 2017 10:26:52
I hope we play the way we are deadly at playing and that is high press offensive football. Defending or defensive style is not our cup of tea and this would backfire. Score an early goal and make it impossible for them to chase. We can't defend, so what's the point in setting up for it?

23 Aug 2017 11:20:43
I never said to set up defensive, I said I hope that side of our game holds out. Everyone knows how we play going forward. Hoffenheim are no slouches and are more than capable of taking our defence to the cleaners. Have a great day :)

23 Aug 2017 13:51:58
I don't mind an offensive game but don't want to see a high press with this team. Last time they simply either played it around our forwards/ midfield via the wingbacks, or else pushed an extra body forward, double teamed one of our fullbacks and then banged it straight over Hendo and co.

23 Aug 2017 16:24:57
To be fair we set up to counter and let hoffenheim have possession and I think it was the right decision for us in Germany. Seeing as they have to put two by us I could easily see us playing the same style at home perhaps with a bit more confidence in the final third.

23 Aug 2017 10:00:48
so it's a rubbish transfer window (so far) . We tied for VVDi, Southampton don't want to sell. We tried for Kiera his club don't want to sell, that is the bottom line no matter what went on. We are the same with PC. So what should we do run around buying players who are little or no improvement on what we have, I don't think so. We have to rely on the people in the club who are responsible for these matters, and if they fail us and our developement of young players is not good enough, the we will struggle. We have for quite some time bought many players who didn't fit, I don't think we should be buying for buying sake.

23 Aug 2017 15:07:21
exactly, i hope we don't buy just for the sake of buying which a lot of posters on here are eluding to with comments like "we've bought noone" (my opinion) buying for the sake of buying has us ending up with overpaid crap we can't get rid of a year later.

23 Aug 2017 09:41:34
People need to remember how we got to fourth place last season. It was with the help of one PipCo. He's been told he's not being sold at any price so why not just believe the club. Barcelona may come back with a bigger bid with more cash up front but me personally I'd rather have the player. He's brilliant and the more n more we sell our stars the further away from a title, cup etc we will get. We will be seen as a "selling club" because we haven't won anything in ages so it becomes a vicious circle.
It's time to hold these players to their contracts. Even it means reintegration back into the squad for him.
That goes for VVD and Southampton. They should do the same. He's got a long contract so they should hold him to it. Keita is different as he only has a year to run on his so I think bidding for him is a wise move. Surely there's other defenders we can target.

23 Aug 2017 08:43:03
Melissa Reddy - no offer received yet, but any forthcoming offer will be rejected again.

23 Aug 2017 10:10:06
I want him to go. Sorry but I do.

23 Aug 2017 10:20:31
I am sorry but who is this Melissa? Do we have a new woman editor Ed01 😄😄.

23 Aug 2017 11:01:30
It's Mel C from the Spice Girls.

23 Aug 2017 13:56:15
That's brave of you Robin. not many on this site would turn down Melissa.

23 Aug 2017 08:25:20
Ed1, are Barcelona deliberately bidding for Coutinho on match days? If so, why? Surely that's just more likely to piss the club off?

{Ed001's Note - how would I know that? I very much doubt they would want to do anything unless it is in their interests to do so.}

23 Aug 2017 08:37:13
Sorry mate, just assumed you'd maybe have inside knowledge on their bidding tactics.

{Ed001's Note - no mate, Barca are run by a group who are elected on a regular basis. Each group has their own ideas and so it really comes down to the current president who is, quite frankly, a bit of a divvy without a clue what he is doing. So it is anyone's guess.}

23 Aug 2017 10:09:50
It's very disruptive. All the focus on Couts and not the match, annoying really.

23 Aug 2017 10:24:46
We're so lucky that we haven't any elected divvies looking after our transfer business!
Ourz are carefully selected from the highest echelons of ths Keystone cops.

23 Aug 2017 11:30:09
Seems to me that Barcelona is in a state of complete disarray. Our problems seem to be miniscule compared to theirs. If there's a 4th bid, then it reeks of nothing but desperation. The Eds will correct me if I am wrong, but 4 bids in a short span of 2 months is unheard of. (But I'm not naive, and know that Barcelona would not be bidding without some hope or enticement) . An ex-president who's in jail, a president who has no clue, the future best player jumping ship and the current best player continuing to have undue say on and off the pitch. A royal mess. Our situation looks completely bright in comparison.

23 Aug 2017 07:46:34
I just want to say I've just joined but followed this site for years I've heard so. e cracking rumours and stories and some shockers. but I want to say on this season alone I want to say I'm embarrassed of our club I'm not fickle and expect money spent but last season was blamed on lack squad. ignore Barcelona situation why hasn't Liverpool one of the biggest clubs in the world prepared for this. we have money klopp knows his targets why are we waiting till last minute . we haven't been the most successful club lately but we are still Liverpool get all our business done players signed stop this stupid foolish tapping and get the players klopp wants and worst comes to worse if he meaning coutinhio is leaving surely klopp can move forward. he is world class but in the bracket with the best. in my eyes do our business and then if he goes let him if not out squad is stronger but Liverpool comes first.

23 Aug 2017 08:01:25
Only the board could answer that question mate! Unfortunately a lot of people including ex liveroool players and staffs have been asking the same question!

23 Aug 2017 08:23:40
Creative use of the word 'lately' in the opening post.

23 Aug 2017 09:33:48
Lately is the new 3 decades Tony, didn't you know?

23 Aug 2017 11:06:11
We'll be saying the same to you 2 in 20-30 years as your glory days are behind you too. Oh no saying that, you now celebrate the cups you used to laugh at.

23 Aug 2017 11:38:54
Ryu come on lad get a grip, i with a load of other (i will call us paying fans) travel week in week out to watch the mighty reds and never hear anybody call it or us embarrassing!
U need to look at urself saying u followed this site and never posted till now. It is u and other types of fans on here that's embarrassing to our great club.
we have a game tonight to take care of first. Then if its possible will will do what we can to sign who we need over the next week.
If we don't sign another player abet the coach full of lads i travel with every week won't bitch on like you.
you are the embarrassment here not the club.

23 Aug 2017 15:51:25
If the manager only wants to pursue deals for specific players and then he jeopardises those deals before dialogue begins you end up in our situation. There is little the board can do about it.

I remember Lord Howe's resignation speech which brought down Maggie Thatcher (his PM at the time) "It is rather like sending your opening batsmen to the crease only for them to find, the moment the first balls are bowled, that their bats have been broken before the game by the team captain". This is very similar in my opinion.

If Saints and RBL don't change their position then there are only 2 possibilities : the manager picks alternative targets or we don't sign anyone. It's simple logic.

23 Aug 2017 07:15:40
So a new bid has gone in for couts. When's the dead line for this one 7pm tonight, tomorrow or the 31st. 😂😂
On a serious note eds 1. Your a well respected Liverpool fan what's your opinion on this what do you think we should do. Sell him or keep him.
Sorry if this has been asked before.
As always thanks.

{Ed001's Note - for the right price, let him make his dream move.}

23 Aug 2017 07:34:39
The club would lose what little credibility it had by backing down now, especially after publicly stating he's not for sale at any price.

It would also send out the wrong singnals to the rest of the squad, U18's, 23's etc. Push hard enough and you'll get your way.

It's a dream move absolutely but he has been interested in the move for over a year and with this in mind, the contract should not have been signed in January.

Sorry I don't buy all this nonsense about him not thinking Barcelona wouldn't come in for him.

23 Aug 2017 07:50:52
Is this the right price though ed001 or will this be rejected and hold out for the £150m offer?

{Ed001's Note - I have no idea, there are too many factors involved fro me to know that without knowing any of those factors.}

23 Aug 2017 07:52:19
Thanks for the reply eds
Not getting into money to much but you think the right price has been offered yet.

{Ed001's Note - no idea sorry.}

23 Aug 2017 08:00:15
Every player has his price. The right price yes. The wrong price and three magic beans. No.

23 Aug 2017 08:04:18
Thanks mate.

23 Aug 2017 08:18:06
Ok ed, let him make his dream move, but then what? Who replaces him in the next week? It doesn't matter how much money we're offered, this deal has no upside unless a great replacement is realistically lined up, and we are yet to see any evidence of that.

{Ed001's Note - we have already replaced him from where he played last season, so you are talking about replacing him where he could potentially play.}

23 Aug 2017 08:28:57
Of course I am, but what difference does it make? Whether he was meant to play CM or AM, someone needs to fill the hole he leaves if he goes to Barcelona.

{Ed001's Note - because the hole from last year has already been filled. So there is no 'hole' to fill.}

23 Aug 2017 08:30:42
Definitely a midfielder needs to come in if Coutinho goes. We replaced the left winger Coutinho with Salah but Klopp wanted Coutinho in midfield for this season so a creative midfielder would be a suitable replacement now. Seems Real will let Kovacic move on at the right price so I say we give them and Southampton what they want for VVD and Kovacic before selling Coutinho to Barca.

23 Aug 2017 08:38:36
Eds its crazy too think we have replaced him but we still in same spot position as last year wid no cover for salah an mane an we know wat appened last year without them, surely we can't b stupid enough too make same mistake twice, an I haven't even mentioned defence yet which blatantly needs quality cover.

{Ed001's Note - but we aren't in the same position at all. That is incorrect. We now have two wingers, rather than one.}

23 Aug 2017 08:45:19
We have already seen Salah or Mane push over to the left. We havnt struggled to score goals so far, even without Coutinho.
The struggle against Palace was the amount of changes.

23 Aug 2017 10:14:12
Ed I think you're being pedantic. At the end of the day, we need players like him if we want to progress.

{Ed001's Note - I am not being pedantic. Everyone is being pathetic about it. We replaced him already, so what is the issue? We knew this situation could arise, hence the attempts to buy more midfielders. If he goes, he goes. If he stays and performs great. At the end of the day, it really is unimportant, he is just one player and it is a team game.}

23 Aug 2017 09:22:12
Come on ed mate I think he means that he was expected to play in the middle infront of 2 CM's pulling the strings taking our freekicks, Corners, play making and picking out passes on the wings, our go to man. We are all thinking/ panicking who does all these things if he moves mate as one thing us certain we don't have anyone else on the same level as him to play centrally. ?

23 Aug 2017 10:15:20
The plan was to inject creativity into midfield by virtue of Coutinho. If Coutinho leaves, a creative hole in midfield is left behind.

{Ed001's Note - how is there a hole? We managed last season without him there. We have managed so far this season without him there. You are speculating about a possibility there may be a gap that doesn't actually exist until it has been made for him.}

23 Aug 2017 10:25:12
So the Eds have been telling us all this time that Keita has nothing to do with Coutinho yet now you're implying that it does?

{Ed001's Note - what? No, now who is being pedantic. I was implying that the club would not need him in midfield either if they signed Keita.}

23 Aug 2017 10:27:13
And that's nonsense Ed, you must have a short memory because we didn't manage that well against the deep-lying defences. There was no one in midfield creative enough to help unlock defences, Coutinho was instead stuck out wide helpless.

How about the consideration we need a bigger squad for UCL? Assuming we qualify.

{Ed001's Note - nonsense? If you say so. No point you carry on with this I am bored now.}

23 Aug 2017 10:30:59
I think it basically comes down to the difference between Salah and Coutinho, with all due respect to Salah he isn't remotely as creative an influence on the team as Cout and is certainly not a direct replacement. It's like ripping the creative heart out of the team and replacing it with pace.

23 Aug 2017 10:44:12
I don't know why you get so narky ed, it's just a debate.

{Ed001's Note - it is not a debate, and I wasn't narky, just can't be arsed with someone trying to be an arse and put words in my mouth. You twist what I said to mean completely different things, so it is pointless. I can't be arsed with that.}

23 Aug 2017 10:45:28
You're basically saying that it's not a big deal losing the team's best player with a week left until the window closes.

{Ed002's Note - Team's need to make provisions and Liverpool has had more than a year to prepare for this potentially happening. Klopp should be well prepared. He has a liking for Oxlade-Chamberlin who he could bring in.}

23 Aug 2017 11:12:05
Lallana being injured doesn't help. He is the creative player to play in that midfield and WANTS to play for us! We do need one creative player in the midfield 3 in my opinion.

23 Aug 2017 15:54:59
If you're not being narky then you're just overreacting to what I said. I didn't put words in your mouth - it has been said all along that Keita is not a Coutinho replacement, hence why I questioned your statement that LFC trying to players like Keita has to do with Coutinho departing.

Yes it may be a team game, but the best teams have some of the best players to give them a competitive advantage. You're acting like it's not a big deal because he's not leaving a particular position threadbare, which is a completely wrong viewpoint.

23 Aug 2017 15:55:11
Yes Welsh, exactly. Lallana out, Coutinho off, who would we have in midfield that is creative? Grujic perhaps. Problem is he's a pretty unknown quantity.

23 Aug 2017 06:42:18
If Coutinho wanted to go and was aware from an year. Why did we not say Barcelona a price and time-limit? I am not sure what do you gain dragging this to the final day?

23 Aug 2017 06:58:02
That doesn't mean the club wanted to let him go or that Barcelona would play ball rather than try to under offer, delay to put pressure on to force the sale etc. I would have thought the nature of the last offer and the amount of stuff being thrown at the press shows they wouldn't have just gone ok there you go if LFC had quoted a date and price. Plus LFC did quote a price previously (to PSG) and that would appear to be dead and buried in the current market.

23 Aug 2017 07:06:10
Aren't the selling club that has the power over the buying club! Liverpool don't care what Barcelona thinks. If they come in between so and so date then Yes we could talk as we would need to find a replacement. Else sorry not welcomed! How many days have we got to find a replacement? 8 days!

23 Aug 2017 07:09:20
I don't think Barcelona did plan to lose Neymar this window, or this late in the window. I think they are about to panic.

23 Aug 2017 07:33:39
We can't defend, Neymar thing proved that actually the player and then the buying club if they have money and appeal, are the ones with the power. If you're Barcelona you have the ability to turn a player's head and that can create all sorts of situations that put the selling club on the back foot. Time is less of an issue to them and more of an ally. They will believe they can get someone else late in the day, they will know LFC will struggle to do that. They possibly have misread and believe we'd have to sign a direct replacement but it would seem they believe time suits them. Also they have the benefit of knowing their current squad would still guarantee ECL qualification in La Liga so they can afford to wait. Judging by previous issues they probably also believe (not unfairly) that they have better people handling transfers than LFC. Also if the club quoted a price to PSG last year they would have viewed that as willing to sell. Everything says they have the upper hand in pretty much any deal bar a few.

It just may happen in this case they've got it wrong and the club isn't willing to sell. Or maybe LFC board understand that to sign top players one of the first things to do is make a statement that says we aren't here to be bullied. Only thing to top that would be make a counter bid for Suarez.

23 Aug 2017 08:07:02
Fresht

There are only two reason they are repeatedly bidding in for Coutinho.

1. He is the best out there in that position.

2. They just can't find another similar player for less or more money outside.

23 Aug 2017 09:48:34
There will be no more signings by lfc this summer, this window has been well abd truly cocked up.

23 Aug 2017 10:45:33
I agree that it shows he is the best around I think it also shows that they believe he is unsettled enough to push through that move. It might be they are just in for a surprise here. I think they'd struggle to find someone as good as Coutinho this late but I think the lure of Barcelona means it will be easier for them than for us.

23 Aug 2017 05:36:51
So, multiple media outlets are reporting yet another Barcelona bid for Coutinho. 100 million with 36 million in ad-ons. One or two have a slightly different figure. And the night before/ day of an important Champions League game. I wonder how different the whole picture is going to look this time next week?

23 Aug 2017 05:45:23
I swear, if Phil's injury isn't genuine he'd better hope we get through tonight. Otherwise I'd hang him out to dry.

23 Aug 2017 06:17:15
Even if genuine, he could have come out to refute .

23 Aug 2017 06:49:32
Apparently he's also ill now!
It's called spoilt bratitis.
Hopefully we will get through tonight but it'll no thanks to Coutinho.

23 Aug 2017 07:06:31
Itis is for swelling😂.

23 Aug 2017 07:03:54
Or maybe the injury/ illness is something the club has put together since his head is going to be all over the place and they want to cover him not playing. The club has medical staff who attend and the club is the one stating his condition. But hey let's just believe everything we read on BS spreading social media and press and assume someone who has been here 4 years (and been a model pro during that time), is actually a total scumbag. Why would anyone want to leave a club with such wonderful fans.

{Ed025's Note - he might just want to win things freshst..

23 Aug 2017 07:37:48
Ed025 I wouldn't blame him if that was the reason. We all move jobs for better prospects. Club is still a few players away from being consistent winners and has blown the last couple of chances so I can understand a player of his ability considering going to one of the top clubs in the world.

{Ed025's Note - i cant argue with that mate..

23 Aug 2017 04:17:14
I think this is it. Bye Coutinho.

23 Aug 2017 01:20:58
I'm not being funny but have Barcelona ever actually watched Coutinho play or is this just a flexing of muscles? No way on this earth is he worth £137mil he's a good player but come on there are a lot of better players in the world than him. It seems they can't be seen to lose face now they've had 3 bids rejected. People are giving us grief for our transfer dealings but they are an absolute joke. I say take it he'll be on his way out as soon as they realise just how inconsistent he is.

23 Aug 2017 04:36:08
Well this post sums up you have no grasp on football. Barcelona has never spend any amount close to this on any player let alone Coutinho. They are not stupid at least when it comes to money. Coutinho is easily in top 3 in his position ( something you don't ente know what his position is ) an out of position Coutinho ( Left winger ) took us to CL. If you play him exactly in Iniesta's role then there is none better than him! If there was one single playmaker who had the nous of Coutinho they would have signed him months ago!

Now coming to his inconsistency! Coutinho is never inconsistent! He is physically taken out by opposition players or being man marked completely by the manager.
I don't remember a single game where he was given freedom to express himself and he had a stinker.

Salah's future depends up on coutinho's exceptional vision in picking his runs! The man bypass the entire midfield with one single pass! And that is exactly what he will do at Barcelona feeding Messi, Suarez and Dembele with his sublime passing! He will make things happen at Barca!

You can now possibly dislike him or even hate him for the way he has conducted himself! But he is the best I have seen in a long long time.

It's been 3 weeks I am trying myself to find anyone closer to him that would slot immediately and been unsuccessful

You could probably buy a winger or an attacking midfielder. Coutinho is a mix of both! when others dribble past defenders using pace, Phil just fool them to get past. The funny thing is he doesn't even have pace!

Phipps Coutinho is world class! And a genuine one! He doesn't even have a fixed position in the team!

Cheers.

23 Aug 2017 05:30:46
Coutinho is a brilliant player on his day.
Coutinho is also very consistent and disappears in many games.
Coutinho is not worth £137 million.

23 Aug 2017 07:16:54
Barcelona aren't signing him to play in the EPL or with the LFC squad or against EPL teams. He will suit them far more and look a better player than people here have generally seen.

23 Aug 2017 07:37:31
lol I am sorry the question is not his value, The question is, is it worth selling him for that money! No player is worth anything that's been paid in this window!

23 Aug 2017 09:31:56
Harry how can you possibly say he's the best you've seen in a long long time? Have you been stuck in a cupboard for the last 10 years? He doesn't come close to Suarez or Gerrard. He's not even as good as Mane! I love Couts but he is not the be all end all and Barcelona would regret spending all of that money on him he won't bridge the gap to Madrid,

22 Aug 2017 23:52:53
on sky sports apparently Barcelona are making a fourth bid for Couts! £101 million upfront and £37million in bonuses.

{Ed002's Note - I thought they said on Twitter that they had officially ended their interest - they can't do this.}

23 Aug 2017 00:37:10
If Liverpool have someone lined up behind the scenes I'd take it with both fists.

23 Aug 2017 00:46:38
More than Barca, playing with Messi is once in life time opportunity.

We should let him go and the deal is also sweet if it's true.

Good luck to Couts.

Cheers.

23 Aug 2017 00:53:37
If we were to accept that, even Liverpool surely couldn't struggle to get some deals over the line with the cash they'd have to play with.

23 Aug 2017 01:13:32
And so it rumbles on.

23 Aug 2017 01:45:01
Unless we have both VVD and Keita signed up then any sale of Coutinho materially weakens the side so no thanks. I would like to see a season of him playing behind Mane, Firmino and Salah.

23 Aug 2017 01:48:50
Like who A2? There's no one ability available, that seri guy we were looking at was atrocious in the games I've seen him in, couthino can't be sold,

23 Aug 2017 01:56:22
If he goes now it'll be just like when we sold Torres.
Did somebody say panic buy?

23 Aug 2017 02:21:54
SKY? Would take it with pinch of salt .
But wouldn't be surprise if it really happen, cause i foresee us doing same thing after Wed till 31st Sept.

***all Eds thks for bearing with our nonsense and have a good one. Cheers.

23 Aug 2017 02:43:04
News coming from Sky Sports about this new bid. Not very reliable though are they?
What do u think Eds? Have Barcelona given up or do u actually expect them to get so desperate?

{Ed001's Note - they had not given up.}

23 Aug 2017 05:37:41
Crunch time. Will FSG stick to their guns or has this all been a ploy to get as much out of Barcelona as possible following the Neymar sale? Barcelona are obviously desperate to prove they still have the muscle and a part of me wants us to stand firm just because of that, but £138m!?!? If the add ons are achievable and we have a replacement lined up then as much as I love Phil, I think I would take it. Any predictions/ thoughts Ed001? Not asking for inside info I just like discussing people opinions on stuff like this.

23 Aug 2017 06:56:13
This story broke through last night via the S*n and a reporter on sky sports - via twitter.

If it's believed, £100m up front with achievable add ons, it's a lot of cash but. Barcelona have been playing games with ridiculous bids, we've not had enough time as it is to try and replace him. Bidding just before our CL game as well? I'd stick to my guns and tell them to F off.

I'm sticking by feelings on this - Selling PC when the club have catagorically said he's not for sale makes us look incredibly weak and shows to other players in the club that we will eventually crumble if they decide to leave.

Selling PC and not landing our two top targets will be disasterous both on and off the pitch imo

The board need to dig their heels in and say no.

23 Aug 2017 07:20:09
If the add ins are the same as before then they're by no means guaranteed so the deal should be looked at as 101m. Also correct me if I'm wrong Eds but the money in (especially if in stages) has no bearing on whether or not LFC buys or can afford to buy right now?

23 Aug 2017 00:44:09
Absolutely shocking behaviour! 😂😂.

23 Aug 2017 00:45:40
your right the offer is 138m 101m up front heard it on the radio so the the saga continues.

23 Aug 2017 01:02:11
Ed002 can you confirm if this includes a Happy Meal with the toy or not?

{Ed002's Note - It almost certainly does.}