Liverpool Banter Archive August 23 2015

 

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23 Aug 2015 22:18:58
What would you guys change if at all for tomorrow's game? It was frustrating seeing benteke nod the ball down to nobody would like to see him have a partner up top but don't want us to exposed of course.

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24 Aug 2015 00:08:36
I would like a compact midfield especially early on,don't want them bossing our midfield and scoring early or it could end up like last season I would be happy with 0-0 as it would prove br has some tactical no how. Lucas can and milner with moreno and Ibe out wide.same back four and big Ben up top.

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24 Aug 2015 01:26:41
Want to see firmino start for ibe and play near Benteke. Ibe should be an impact sub. I also want to see ings/origi get a go at some point in the second half. Can should start for Milner.

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24 Aug 2015 10:52:35
I'd start Lucas (Maybe unlikely) with Can & Milner each side of the diamond & Coutinho at the top. It's a tough one who partners Big Ben though. Firmino has to be match fit to start by now. Moreno, Ibe, Ings, Lallana, Ilori & Rossiter on bench?

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23 Aug 2015 19:18:21
So, tonights podcast.
wow! just wow! from information gathered via many sources, we are bringing you a ground breaker. Not one to miss, i promise you! Expecting many opinions on this after its revealed.

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23 Aug 2015 20:33:58
When is it out Benny?

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23 Aug 2015 20:46:35
When is it available to hear benny baller.

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23 Aug 2015 20:59:42
Cant wait :)

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23 Aug 2015 21:14:40
Soon as ed033 gets it on. been recorded and emailed to him.
Brendan, ruthless or villain.
all i can give away. However it doesn't come across as dramatic in the podcast lol.

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23 Aug 2015 22:41:54
Looking forward to it mate.

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24 Aug 2015 01:27:33
Very pleased with the news that they were brendans choices. Gives me hope that he has some sense in him.

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23 Aug 2015 17:56:18
Ed01, Could we Agree Silva is the play-maker in the league from some time and easily inside the best top 3? He is such gifted.

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{Ed001's Note - he is probably the best player in the Prem. I love watching him play. Watching him play makes me fall in love with football all over again.}

23 Aug 2015 18:11:39
I think Aguero Hazard and Sanchez are better than him. Fantastic player nonetheless

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23 Aug 2015 18:26:27
Quality player. I always think of him and Dani Alves as the ones that got away from us when a bit more supprt from the owners would've granted Rafa's wishes.

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23 Aug 2015 18:26:27
Quality player. I always think of him and Dani Alves as the ones that got away from us when a bit more supprt from the owners would've granted Rafa's wishes.

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{Ed002's Note - There is a fixed size now that clubs can be smaller than if they do not have the space.}

23 Aug 2015 19:04:36
Nailed it ed01, quality player and very few player in fact the only player, BOBARTON who could equally play in the hole and wide.
The second goal was all down to him. holding three Everton defenders in the half way line.
City have done a great job keeping both Aguero and Silva at the club.
I just have to admit he is the best playmaker in the league.

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23 Aug 2015 20:17:03
Why would anyone compare him to hazard Sanchez and aguero ?? He's simply the best playmaker in the lge . He also adds in with goals . He's a magician . A truly gifted baller

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23 Aug 2015 20:37:39
Lol Harry. If you think he's the only player that can play both those roles at a high level you are kidding yourself. I don't know why you've even put that.but then again you are disagreeing with your own argument then that you need pace to be a winger. Silva doesn't have pace.

Silva is a brilliant player I've never said he isn't. But of a weird thing to be shouting about.

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23 Aug 2015 23:23:49
Silva is incomparable(besides Messi and CR7). He's simply the third best footballer on the planet. Hazard, Sanchez and Ageuro don't even get close. Suarez is possibly on the same level.

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24 Aug 2015 03:00:00
Hazard, Aguero and Sanchez are not in his Silva's class neither are they fit to shine his shoes. A true no. 10 and the best of them all

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24 Aug 2015 08:12:09
Wow some over statements on this thread,Silva is a good number 10 but at no point incomparable to Hazard Sanchez Aguero and Suarez etc. Come on guys. How can you say Silva was better in the 10 role than sanchez who operated there for a lot of last season? Silva's had a great start to the season,but so have city as a whole,but based on last years full performances,Sanchez is clearly ahead for me. btw,sahcnhez.another great number 10 that can easily play winger too EG

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24 Aug 2015 10:17:14
Silva is the best player in this league. Ignore stats and ignore who scores all the goals, just watch the game. He is on another level. Hazard Sanchez Aguero etc are all great players but Silva is something else. He is up there with Iniesta for me.

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23 Aug 2015 17:16:11
Why do Everton look more dangerous on the break against City than we did when we were pinned down by Bournemouth?

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23 Aug 2015 18:05:50
All about the result

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23 Aug 2015 18:16:15
And yet they like Bournemouth got 0 points and 0 goals. You can't compare teams perfomances against each other like that.

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23 Aug 2015 19:06:31
Coz unlike us they break and realize it quick, where we are very slow in build up.

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24 Aug 2015 01:42:01
Well Bournemouth should have scored! And the fact they pinned us down for periods and we couldn't hit them on the counter.

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24 Aug 2015 03:02:00
Cos we play way too deep and invite pressure as well as isolated Benteke so even when we get the ball, we can't break quickly

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23 Aug 2015 16:12:54
Hi All,

Another good podcast by the way.

Hate to be negative but I'm not feeling confident at all for us tomorrow.

I hope Can, Firmino & Sakho start

Let's hope I'm wrong and we can take something away from tomorrow's game.

My feeling is saying 2-1 to the gunners

Let's hope I'm wrong!

Cheers,
Manny

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23 Aug 2015 17:23:50
I agree with you. Those three on, and Skrtel, Ibe, Lallana on bench. Same time, I simply cannot see BR breaking up a winning team. As for score, I think 3 - 0 gunners. I am a pessimist by nature though, so maybe 2 - 0 more likely

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23 Aug 2015 18:10:32
Yeah I feel we could try Lovren/Sakho at the back. If Hendo passes his fitness test then it will be the same team 100% on that.

I'll stick to me 2-1 :) With Benteke scoring for us

As I said hopefully I’m wrong!

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23 Aug 2015 15:01:50
Lot of chatter bout Lucas going to Besiktas agreed. Will he be replaced if true?

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23 Aug 2015 16:55:40
Emre Can and Allen.

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23 Aug 2015 17:04:16
Illaramendi.

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24 Aug 2015 03:05:09
Why replace a player who wasn't getting a game? This is why we have so many players that we don't know what to do with. Promote the youth or play who you have.

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24 Aug 2015 04:58:52
Because as you seen allen in injured and if henderson was injured for a period of time instead of just a doubt then we would only have Milner and Can.

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23 Aug 2015 14:55:37
Ed1 hate to say it but have u jinxed pedro? he's been grest today on his debut either that or ed2 has spiked his tea to prove his point he's good player when he wants to be lol can u jinx arsenal game for tomorrow if u say we will loose we may just walk away with 3 points :) : )

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24 Aug 2015 10:21:41
He was overly hyped. He had a positive game but it wasn't the incredible performance the analysts are being paid to tell you it was. His two 'best moments' were a lucky finish to a good move and a mishit shot that fell into Costa's lap. He worked hard in the game in general but it wasn't anything to write home about.

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23 Aug 2015 14:46:03
I just wonder if Pedro whould have signed for us on Friday, when would he have started first time for us. Surely not tomorrow, probably not next week either, possible substitute against United.

We still didn't start Firmino after about a month in the club and some people think he is still not match fit even though he was never injured. Just shows you all this gelling stuff is just a myth.

I mentioned before BR's obsession with resting players or introduce them the most gradually possible. Well, looks like Jose has a different approach. He is good enough? You play him even if he just came off the plane. And guess what, it worked.

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23 Aug 2015 16:05:13
Pedro should have been bought instead of Lallana when we had the money and choice. For some strange reasons outside football people rate Walcott but not Pedro.

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23 Aug 2015 16:15:50
Pedro had a full pre season with barca, played games, and wasn't away at the copa America. Firmino on the other hand.

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23 Aug 2015 16:29:21
Pedro would have much higher wages. EG you have to stop posting all of this rubish. Lallana is a good player, we have not used him properly at all.

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23 Aug 2015 16:41:11
Get a grip Jraz. How much is Milner on btw?
He is a fantastic player and has nothing to do with wages with Liverpool already being 5th in the wage List.
Only Liverpool, I Repeat only Liverpool would pay 26 mill for Lallana.

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23 Aug 2015 16:42:43
Where would you and him to play? He will not replace Countinho ever in that central role, while Pedro plays on the flank and is a regular goal scorer. There is nothing the lad has not won. His goal scoring stats at Barca is fantastic.

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23 Aug 2015 17:04:25
If pedro us such a fantastic player then why did Luis Enrique chose a 19 year old haddadi over him whne Suarez was suspended?

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23 Aug 2015 17:38:50
Pedro vs Lallana vs Kovacic?

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23 Aug 2015 19:09:53
Reet

Y do we play Skrtel instead of Sakho? What a stupid question mate. Y don't we just for a second appreciate some rally good footballers regardless of the color of shirt?
Is it really hard? He is a very talented gifted player and would score a lot of goals this season. Chelsea miss a real goal scorer from the flanks and Pedro fits in perfect.

Ron

Kovacic is my adopted son. 😄😄

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24 Aug 2015 05:00:17
Nothing to do with Firmino BR just sticking to Lallana for a reason only he and god knows.

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23 Aug 2015 14:37:14
Anyone else have a completely unjustified sense of confidence ahead of tomorrow?

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23 Aug 2015 15:03:35
Yes, you Ronald and Davey. The rest of us in the real world will just wait and see and hope.

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23 Aug 2015 15:09:41
It is justified. We have a team that is very capable of beating arsenal. We might even keep another clean sheet. A draw wouldn't be the worst result either. i'm going for another 1-0 win to us.

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23 Aug 2015 15:15:37
I go froom extreme pessimism to elation 10 minutes before a match.

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23 Aug 2015 15:54:15
Just you Muscat - I'll be happy if we don't get walloped - cannot see our defence holding up against them, our midfield out-competing with them nor our attack asking too many questions of them. In short I expect it to be a long, long night.

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23 Aug 2015 16:20:05
I'm with you Muscat: we're fans therefore we dream.
Can't wait till tomorrow night!

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23 Aug 2015 16:23:12
It will be a season defining victory for LFC tomorrow.

Citeh will drop points today and we'll be clear of the rest of the field by tomorrow night.

Top of the league from August to May!

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23 Aug 2015 16:44:33
Waro, I'm confident because I think god is trolling you, they'll have a legitimate penalty turned down, our goal will lead a charmed life and Cech will accidentally chuck the ball into his own net giving us a 1-0 win :)

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23 Aug 2015 18:00:35
To be honest I'd rather we got walloped than lost by a small margin, it won't do the lads confidence any good but it would expose the cracks and as a result something could be done about it, other than the usual, great character, wee bit unlucky, world class strikes hurt us, refereeing decisions boo hoo etc.

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23 Aug 2015 18:45:06
If we get walloped what do you think will happen? New signings? Sacking of the manager? Intensify trainjng? No. Nothing. A 1-0 loss is better than a walloping simply because it will not instil an inferiority complex in the players whenever we play the top teams.

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23 Aug 2015 20:10:41
Muscatred, WHAT? and Ronald, spot on with the Man City shout ( as usual, you really know your football😕 ), bookmakers eyes light up when clueless punters like you walk in.

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23 Aug 2015 20:14:38
Is that why I said 0-0 Waro?

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23 Aug 2015 22:01:14
Wrong thread Davey, plus I'm not sure what your post means!!!

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23 Aug 2015 23:32:22
You're following me around like a lovesick puppy now Waro.

Ah unrequited love must be hard for you to deal with.

❤️

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24 Aug 2015 03:11:56
Waro's first response was spot on! I have very little hope for tmrw because I feel are sneak will do what Bournmouth and Stoke could not as in, take advantage of our glaring issues, system wise and tactically. I hope we don't lose, tbh.

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24 Aug 2015 12:13:18
I can't really see us winning either. A draw will be a good result.

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23 Aug 2015 14:10:14
Not Liverpool related but some on here will be interested in this news (especially the united fans who spend all their time here)
I've been told this afternoon that united may look to beat Spurs to the signing of Berahino.

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23 Aug 2015 15:41:08
From Ronaldo to Bale to Muller to Pedro to Mane to Berahino. All a smokescreen leading down to Nowrich's Cameron Jerome

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23 Aug 2015 19:31:45
Jerome is to good for the Mancs 😉

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23 Aug 2015 20:15:23
Put it on the Utd page then lad.

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24 Aug 2015 05:02:03
Van Gaal has to ask himself could Pato really do any worse than Falcao last season.

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24 Aug 2015 05:32:40
Davey I have no intention of going onto the United page thanks, as I said son some on here may be interested
I relied on the Eds to decide wether or not it was suitable and they allowed it so scroll on past

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23 Aug 2015 13:38:28
if Hendo misses out tomorrow then, Lucas has to play surely? Thoughts?

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23 Aug 2015 14:26:01
Can-Milner in a two men midfield.

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23 Aug 2015 16:21:14
All I know is he will be needed. If not tomorrow then further ahead. To sell him is crazy! Just crazy!!

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23 Aug 2015 16:31:19
Can and Milner as a two man midfield will get slaughtered by arsenal. I think it will be can Milner and lallana although I would prefer Lucas to lallana.

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23 Aug 2015 21:36:45
jraz

Lallana would play, but on the flanks.

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23 Aug 2015 23:16:31
so if reports are to be believed Lucas, Can & Firmino to replace hendo, ibe & lallana. Much more confident with that team v arsenal

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24 Aug 2015 03:14:40
Milner and Can in midfield will get the business from Arsenal. I hope you're right with your selection, IrishAl

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24 Aug 2015 05:03:29
we will get a beating like no other if we play with a two man midfield against the gunners.

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23 Aug 2015 13:21:03
Hi ed001 if your about, I was wondering what you think of Firnino as a player and if you think that we overpaid for him?

Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - far too early to tell if we overpaid. Personally I liked what I saw of him before we got him.}

23 Aug 2015 14:18:17
Thanks for the reply ed and keep up the great work with the podcasts.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}

23 Aug 2015 10:43:43
ed001 - What do you think of riyad mahrez and do you believe he's a player our scouts should be watching and maybe sign january or next summer?

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{Ed001's Note - I like him, he has pace, plenty of ability and he is consistent for a flair player. The problem is that he would cost a lot, a hell of a lot, as Leicester are investing with the aim of being a Champions League team. They would not let him go cheap. Also we need to get some players out before looking to buy more right now.}

23 Aug 2015 13:39:03
Thanks for the reply ed.

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{Ed001's Note - you are welcome mate.}

23 Aug 2015 13:48:46
He is a fantastic player.

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23 Aug 2015 15:40:33
Be nice to think our scouting system could pullout such gems.

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23 Aug 2015 16:33:17
Gems like Anthony LeTallec and Florent Sinama-Pongolle or gems like Joe Gomez?

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23 Aug 2015 17:40:06
Or Oussama Assaidi and Iago Aspas?

Pongolle btw was crucial in the comeback against Olympiacos

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23 Aug 2015 19:44:45
Thanks to Harry, I'm starting to get a real hang up about the use of the word 'would'. Even Ed01 seems to have caught the bug. God help us all.

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24 Aug 2015 03:18:12
Ron, more like Assaidi, Aspas, Alberto, Aly Cissokho and Victor Moses, all BR's "gems" until O'driscoll forced BR to pick Gomez. Had it not been for him, Gomez would on loan at Blackpool right now.

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24 Aug 2015 05:06:38
they got him for £350k they will probably want £19.65m profit.

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24 Aug 2015 07:24:26
The term "gems" is obviously lost on the newer fans.

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23 Aug 2015 12:45:11
ed001 - I noticed you didn't care to respond to my last question. If you're still feeling a some type'a way about me setting you up with that man city FFP question, i sincerely apologize. 😜

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{Ed001's Note - no mate, I just had to pop out so left it to answer when I got back, which I will do in a sec once I have cleared up all the quick posts I can do across all the sites. I do questions after I have done a quick sweep up of posts.}

23 Aug 2015 12:06:37
Nothing against italian players
They have some of the best in the world.

But have liverpool had any italian player succeeded with them ever!
Cant remember any!
Anybody knows?
I think we should always avoid them.
For some reason. it just don't work out with them in anfield!

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23 Aug 2015 13:08:06
Dossena just for his lob against the mancs and then a goal against Madrid in the same week.

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23 Aug 2015 18:33:56
Padelli was adequate cover while he was here :)

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23 Aug 2015 22:32:08
In one word. No.

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24 Aug 2015 05:07:21
Lucas?

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23 Aug 2015 08:07:40
I think attitude and hard work are the best weapon you can have if you want to become a professional footballer, when you see players like Balotelli ravel Morrison etc who are throwing their careers away it's sad, then you've got players like Ibe who have complete natural ability and a real desire to improve and work hard, there are more examples of course, Gomez' agent was talking about a young lad Kasey palmer of Chelsea and his attitude is poor refusing to go on loan Kasey even said to joe to do the same thing but he said he'll go on loan if he has too to make it at Liverpool, but he didn't need to in the end hard work paid off. I've got some info on sterling, reasons why he left and so on, but I won't post unless people want to hear it I understand it's very boring hearing his name now.

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23 Aug 2015 08:25:36
Tomato

Open up man. Let people smell the reality.

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23 Aug 2015 08:44:19
Collymore has to be up there with biggest waste of talent I have seen. Had absolutely everything but unfortunately by all accounts was and probably is a bit of a tool!

Cheers

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23 Aug 2015 09:47:32
Please square tomato enlighten us with another of your stories, they really light up my day! 😉

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23 Aug 2015 10:24:45
Collymore was a class player.

Balotelli would never come close in my opinion.

It is now well documented that Collymore suffered from mental health issues which blighted his career - what's the Italians excuse?

Anyway, Collymore was far more gifted than he ever will be, and at least he put in a good graft.

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{Ed001's Note - Colly more was exactly the same, he barely turned up for training and never put in a good graft.}

23 Aug 2015 10:35:13
Spill the beans Macca, i mean, Square tomato!

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23 Aug 2015 10:41:53
Yeah I wanna hear it mate :)
I hear a lot of criticism of footballers and their attitudes, my question to the posters on here is:
What would you be like if you where 19 and on 50k+ a week? (And be honest)
I'm 29 and I could probably just about manage to stay grounded, but me at 19? I would be making the front pages more than the back, I find it incredible how many footballers actually stay grounded enough to have a career in the game, factor in blood sucking agents looking after them and it's hardly a suprise so many are like ballotelli. Must be such a poisonous and corrupting world to grow up in.

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23 Aug 2015 16:06:49
Disagree Mikey: I think if I was earning those sorts of money I would simply consider myself incredibly fortunate. I suppose it depends how you're brought up, who you surround yourself with, etc etc but I would regard it as a gift if I was in the same situation. Some players do and you see that in their attitudes. For some players they've had to graft and come up the hard way (see Lambert) and thus appreciate their fortune. Others get it easy due to natural brilliance (Sterling a prime example) and they don't appreciate anything they've got. I think it all comes down to personalities - and you see the good and the bad - but I certain;y am not surprised some stay good, I'm surprised more aren't thanking their lucky stars they are not only playing football for a living, but being paying extraordinarily well for doing so. I'd be made up if I could play footy for the minimum wage!

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22 Aug 2015 22:45:09
Ed 1 if your about what's your take on the owners compared to moore and hicks and gilette? I know moores was a leech and a lot of blame is on him for decline of lfc but everyone moaned about h&g for almost bankrupting the club were i think benitez had a lot to do with it too and everyone loves him still, now fsg are piling up the debt spending obscene money on avg players employ a manager out of his depth so would just be interesting to hear your thoughts? i'm not wanting a hate campaign against fsg etc like a lot of lfc fans have done but people seem to forget h&g did a lot of good creating new revenue streams when they took over etc

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{Ed001's Note - both sets of American owners are a mixed bag, both are good and bad in so many ways, at least both have good intentions, unlike Moores who was just like Mike Ashley at Newcastle United and only interested in making money out of the club. It really needs a lot more than a quick reply here to answer this properly but I will give a quick sketch:

Hicks and Gillet:
Good intentions but didn't have the money to cope with the global economy crash and so were extended beyond their means.
Rafa was constantly bickering with them and wanting more and more money to spend, which they obviously couldn't afford.
They did start the rebuild of the commercial arm of the club, which was just a couple of people in a room above a pub when they took over.
The biggest mistake they made was allowing Rafa almost free rein to do what he liked, due to his backing from the fans, which meant huge sums leaving the club in the transfer market. People talk about how he made a profit, but he lost the club many millions each transfer window through huge signing fees, paying up contracts, agent fees etc.
What Rafa created, with their backing, was a very similar situation to the one Aston Villa and Sunderland have been in recently. A popular manager, in O'Neill, buying average players on huge wages and then getting stuck with them for far too long. Sadly it seems FSG are just repeating the mistake.
H&G wanted to create a club that won things but didn't have a clue what they were doing and left us in a financial mess, while they were not intending to do that, their time as owners has to be judged as a failure.

FSG:
Bought the club for a decent price because of the mess, and continued to improve the financial mess. Basically though, there is very little about them any different from the previous owners other than deeper pockets, which has enabled them to do the things H&G wanted to do but couldn't get the money together for, such as the stadium.
The main problem as I see it with FSG is the failure to plan effectively for the future and try and work to their plan. They planned to work with a DoF and Head Coach, but ended up with a manager instead. They aimed to produce players from the academy and buy younger players that can improve in order to create a team to challenge for trophies on a lower budget. Instead the recruitment turns into a shambles with no clear structure or planning to it. Rather than re-evaluating and fixing the issue by going back to their initial plan, they try to put a sticking plaster over the problem by putting a committee in place to do the transfers.
There is no thought or plan behind what they are doing, when there is no one is actually bothering to follow it. The idea of living within the club's means has been thrown out of the window as they chase glory, adding debt to a club which already has to spend outwith its means for the stadium expansion.
Someone at FSG needs to step back and look at the shambles it is turning into and look at how far they have gone away from the path they started on and head back towards it, or we are going to end up in a similar situation to H&G. The Premier League is a financial juggernaut but it won't last forever and the club need to be prepared, right now we are in trouble if the club's income stops growing year on year.}

23 Aug 2015 09:27:36
For me the problem with FSG is not that they overspend but how little they got back for overspending in terms of trophies and progress. I will not go on again about keeping BR this summer when it appears as if Klopps was happy to come but this was just one example of the fact they just don't have the understanding of how football in this level works + the ruthlessness and the willingness to take quick decisions (without waiting to some kind of 'Review' in the summer as if this is some kind of sophisticated accounting problem which needs an expert to investigate it and go over the books).
When you look at what Abramovich or City owners achieved for their money in terms of trophies and what FSG did, you just get the feeling they are in the wrong business.

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23 Aug 2015 09:55:48
Best name ever. lol

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23 Aug 2015 10:37:02
Well put ed.

I would just like to pull you on one thing though.

The owners spending.

1/ would they have spent this much last year and this year if they hadn't of had the Suarez & Sterling money. Wouldn't it if been like the previous summers in the 30/40 mil category.

2/ do you want the title and do you believe that thete was a better chance of achieving that and top 4 over the past few years with primarily promoting youth?

3/ how much are Liverpool allowed to spend or can afford to spend because no matter what it is its always too much and there's always moaning and complaining from certain people. This summer the club Brought in 49 million pounds and have committed 77 million out. I just don nt understand anything when the difference between that isn't even 30mil, yet you look at Aston villa, Stoke and there all commiting big money out yet we can't.

4/ if we want to income to keep growing and growing we have to get successful again a nd star finishing higher up the table and we have to spend to compete. Do you honestly ed think it would of been possible to achieve top 4 this year with just academy players and a couple of younger player signings??

5/ how much debt are wr actually in.
I thought the club were working ok this, ed I love use but I can't deal with this anymore. I have been coming in this website for 3/4 years and I have never seen you or 2 say (there have been improvements etc) my questions being

Where's the debt at like I asked above.

How much do we lose each week now.

How much are we making each year.

What's the wage bill at?

I completey understand the problem everyone has with spending etc

But I kbow we have struggled recently with our spending but what chance do we have of getting in the top 4 and league if wr don't spend

Look at Tottenham they invested the 100mil, cooked up and have now stepped back a nd are going to try our approach, well are idea of buying young and growing.

But here's the rub do you realise how long that's going to take spurs and it can even go wrong. Thete miles of the pace and quality of there group isn't a patch on any.of the top 4 so that's another season they have to wait.

And Southampton aswel, though they could sell sell sell and invest smarty and cheap and watch them this year lol

How long are you prepared to wait? How kucj time will you give to people, or players and if your not successful when promoting youth then they leave for the clubs who are (sterling)

To best bet there is and the only chance we have is to spend to break into the tip 4 but as I asked well above I dint understand how

77 - 49 = 28 and we're calling that a lot and more Than LIVERPOOL football club can spend.

Neville is the only other one to actually allude to this 'the owners have invested etx well without last summer it was (30 mil, 20 mil, 50 mil and 0mil) even then thete was the 20 mil for Carroll, that is not champions league style investment.

And then when your dad sells your car but gives you the dosh it isn't the same as just getting the dosh now is it.

Thanks guys and girls

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but you are clueless about finances clearly. This is pointless, you are talking about money that never came into the club and claiming they used that to finance the deals. This is why we don't talk finances as no one is able to understand that you don't get the full amount from a transfer fee. Your whole rant is just utter nonsensical bull.}

23 Aug 2015 10:44:48
They know too little about football to run a football club, that much is obvious.
Plus most advisors they have had seem to know just as little.

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23 Aug 2015 10:49:50
Bwettysollocks? Obviously someone's been on the United page.

Try thinking up your own name. Bloody copy cat!! :)

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23 Aug 2015 11:21:29
Hey betty lol thanks mate but i thought of this all by myself but good to see my dopplegangers a utd fan lol ed1 awesome reply thanks totally agree with u about both sets of american owners just hope fsg get it right this season or there could be a lot of soul searching for us lfc fans next season!!

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23 Aug 2015 11:55:05
Top managers attract top players fsg seen happy with loads of mediocre ones and a inexperienced manager

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23 Aug 2015 12:25:33
Net or gross what ever you call, we have been spending am awful lot in last 3 years with no success at all.
FSG are slowly realizing this fact. Any other manager with the given money under FSG would have won at least one PL title.

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23 Aug 2015 13:02:45
If Fsg had made the "right" appointments since they have taken over i have no doubt that the club could have saved themselves a fortune on players. Its criminal! Money that could have been put to good use. I have no doubt about their "intentions" but they have clearly shown to have no clue about football. I would also question their advisors. How could they have got it so wrong so many times is beyond me. Really disappointing.

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23 Aug 2015 15:38:49
I get that the sterling money isn't going to be paid in to the clubs bak straight away.

I also understand that sterling was due 5% and QPR 20%, we might of received about 10 million upfront and the rest might be paid over the next 3 years.

That's just a guess above btw I'm not saying anyone has said it.

My question is though did we pay out for all our buys straight away?

So 32.5 mil for example went straight out and into villas bank account ? Or have we paid a upfront fre and then the rest has been split over the next 3 ffp years ?

I just can't believe that the owners who ran financing firms or something in the money section (accounting maybe) prior to forming FSG sports venture, wouldn't have a clue how to handle the clubs finances.

but that's just me, I have extreme faith in FSG that's for sure 😊 were in good hands until I can be proved otherwise!!!

Thanks for the rapid and thorough reply above ed. Much appreciated. Keep up the good and informative work 😁

Love this site!

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{Ed001's Note - you forget we have to pay up the contracts and the FA takes a levy, plus agents fees and taxes. We get nothing like the amounts you are talking about, irrelevant of how much we pay up front because we still have to pay for the previous year or two's transfers anyway.}

23 Aug 2015 22:49:53
We = every club

People just like to use net spend of transfer fees as a convenient ratio to judge transfer spending power / spending comparisons

It's the most commonly available set of figures thrown around in the public domain by the media and the clubs

All the additional costs involved in transfers are not in the public domain and No one is going to sit around and work out how much ink was used in the fax machine to complete a transfer

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24 Aug 2015 03:27:10
Great post, Ed! With you on the net spend rubbish as well. Elam. People just use simple mathematics to come up with numbers they then use or used to make Rafa's TW record look good. Net spend is pointless and always has been

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23 Aug 2015 00:24:16
Monday, how poorly were playing I'm not confident, but I don't care if we get 4 players sent off we can't string 2 passes together, a coutinho screamer and one nil will do me just fine!

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23 Aug 2015 03:07:00
Ibe 1-0 is my bet, hoping to get at least 66-1, haven't checked the prices yet. what's the best odds I can get??

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23 Aug 2015 08:58:16
175/1 with Paddy Power
Best of luck

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23 Aug 2015 09:52:26
1-2 to LFC. Skrtel and Benteke

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23 Aug 2015 10:28:30
0-0

Liverpool will sit back and will slowly push players on with half an hour left (if the teams are still drawing).

It's going to be a Stoke allover this one with Arsenal struggling to break us down.

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23 Aug 2015 12:29:01
Arsenal ll never struggle to break down like stoke. If we intend to sit back they will eat us pressing high and high.
We will have to take the game to Arsenal. Someone other than Countinho should step up. Once you mark out Countinho, Our flow of attack stops.
Can - Milner should tell us what exactly they are in the midfield.
I predict an Arsenal win, it's just how good we play.

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23 Aug 2015 13:01:04
Is there ever a game Ronald were you think we won't win? We could play Barca and Madrid on the same night and you would say 3-1 we'll win in both games! That's not an opinion it's a delusional comment, no team in football history has won every game, Davey's just as bias as you, but at least he's realistic with his prediction and gives a summary of what he thinks the score will be!

Do you ever put money on any of your scorelines Ronald? My guess is no, because there not your actual thoughts on a game, there just you attention seeking and trying to back up your outlandish prediction about us winning the league. I've said it before and I'll say it again " WHAT COLOUR IS THE SKY ON YOUR PLANET "!!

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23 Aug 2015 13:01:22
Benteke will want pay back for the FA cup final which he was roundly criticised.
Skrtel will get our annual headed goal from a corner against Arsenal's powder-puff defence.
Sanchez will get one for the gooners

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23 Aug 2015 13:51:25
I suggest a podcast Waro and Ron. Make it happen ED033 and Benny. 😂😂😂😂

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23 Aug 2015 16:16:53
3-1 to Arsenal - their miles ahead of us in terms of quality and think they have a number of players who, man-to-man, are simply better. I hope to be pleasantly surprised but hard to look past our deficiencies and their strengths. Oh, and our woeful form at the Emirates.

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23 Aug 2015 16:20:41
We will win the league!

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23 Aug 2015 16:35:47
Waro loves me too much to take me on via a Podcast.
His emotions would get the better of him. Xx

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22 Aug 2015 17:24:44
Hi Eds Q Is BR losing the plot by considering selling his only true CDM in Lucas please don't give me the brush by saying Can or Joe Allen can play in this position because they are just not up to it we were completely over run in midfield against Bournemouth and it was crying out for Lucas to come in and change the tide but how can he when he can't even make the bench Rodgers is on another planet if he thinks he can get thoroughly the whole season without a real CDM what is your honest opinion on this ?

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{Ed002's Note - It has been done to death.}

 
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