Liverpool Banter Archive November 22 2013

22 Nov 2013 18:14:06
Hi eds and reds
Just wondering what's happening with Kelly?
Clearly he has had some really horrendous injuries and problems with his fitness since but is he playing regularly for under 21's? If so how is he doing?
I knew it would be a long road back but to be honest I thought he would have featured more, so far he has only made a couple of sub appearances and hasn't really built up any match practice or sharpness in the first team as he simply hasn't played so was just wondering what the situation was as if he was fit he would offer us an option at right back which would give us Johnson for left back if needed
Cheers

As much as I want all Liverpool players to succeed I don't think he'll ever cement a starting place at Liverpool. I hope he developes into a good squad player but I think we allready have better options in our reserves with lori, jones and mcglaughlin just to name a few

I agree he might never make it, however I think he is a lot more proven it premier league than any others so has an advantage there.
Sometimes players can't step up, Robinson looked like a world beater in youth and Flanagan looked good as well as sama but none have done anything.
We could do with options at right back so would be useful if he was for to play

I would say that Rodgers fancies Flanagan more than Kelly. I think Flanagan will become a regular in the first team squad now Enrique is out.

Kelly has not looked the same player, in training or games he has played, since his injury. It will probably be next season before he will be back to his best. BR does rate him, but he has a lot of hard work ahead of him.

Surely Flanagan over Kelly is fitness related, can't believe that anyone could believe he is better. Based on Kelly before injury I would say he was quicker, stronger, taller, better going forward and better defensively so can't see anyone preferring flanagan

Its a shame that many of our youth players shine at that age but don't reach the heights we expect. to think that flanagan, kelly, robinson, morgan, adorjan, sama, roden ect will probably never stake a claim in our firsts is a real shame. but having saidthat our first 11 is so strong its not surprising. I wonder how well theyd improve if they went down the same road as townsend has at spurs. I think games is a must from an early age

What rubbish. What do you mean he will never make it? He already had before his injury. A player you had no concerns about playing we called upon. I agree that a lot of posters talk up our youth players only for nothing to come of them but Kelly was not one. Yet since his injury there does seem to be some issue because Kelly would be streets ahead of Flanno or any other younger players you care to mention. I hope he finds his mojo and becomes part of our first team squad soon.

By never make it, I merely meant that with his injury I beeline he is now behind wisdom, Johnson, Enrique, ilori, salvo, skrtel, toure, agger with possibly jones, the young Spanish lad signed from real who's name escapes me, McLaughlin all coming up it may be difficult for him to get his place back, especially if we played with wing backs as we would then also have some more attacking options like Raheem and Henderson

All i'm saying is he won't be 1st choice at Liverpool. he won't start before johnson at right back or agger, toure, skertle and sakho at center half. i'm not slating the lad but if were talking about top four this year or even mounting a challenge to win the league he'll never be a first choice starter. if you belive he's better than who I've mentioned then I just don't see it

22 Nov 2013 14:20:36
Suso live on ssn sports Saturday night againt Real Madrid, let's wish him luck!

22 Nov 2013 13:21:19
I think we need to start with:

Johnson Toure Sakho Cissokho

This is the wrong game to throw Flanagan in. He will lose his head when things get 'nasty'. I also dread to think what will happen if Skrtel and Agger play against Lukaku. Do you remember what he did to us last season for West Brom? Earlier in the season, Benteke made Agger look like a lady, and were it not for Toure, Villa may have came away with a point. Toure and Sakho have the power and physique to cope with a derby, and the strength to deal with Lukaku. Sakho is also in great form, as he proved for France. I think Cissokho and Sakho will both benefit from having Toure alongside them as he can speak fluent French which may aid him when it comes to organising the defence. Otherwise I'd say start Skrtel and Sakho. This will probably happen once Sakho understands English fluently. The other option is to play Toure and Skrtel, but I'd just prefer to see Sakho given a game in a match that will suit him more than any other defender in the squad. If Sturridge is injured, a straight swap is there in the form of Victor Moses. Quick, powerful and direct. Moses was MOTM against Italy earlier in the week, so perhaps he has earned the right to start in the event of an injury. Playing people like Alberto, Ilori and Flanagan in a game that's going to get tough and be very hard to deal with both physically and mentally is suicide. The only reason I'd play Coutinho is because he has the awareness to create space for himself, and is suprisingly tough. I'd go with the same midfield that played Fulham off the park.

Lets hope Suarez is not too tired!

YNWAdam

I reckon we could also go with:

Toure - Skrtel - Agger - Johnson

22 Nov 2013 17:11:30
Is enrique still injured?

Hi eds, reds
Why don't we try and stop the ball getting to lakuku then we don't have to worry about him . Let's make everton worry about us . 3 points please . Come on reds
Jamesee

22 Nov 2013 12:30:57
Lets be honest guys, the 2 thongs you don't do in a derby is play youngsters for the 1st tine or play players out of position.

if Sturridge is fit it will be the same team that beat Fulham. If not, Moses should come in.

Play our left back at left back and our right back at right back.

Simple

22 Nov 2013 13:39:22
The two thongs? Mate, Aquilani and Cole are gone. We no longer have 2 pain in the Arsene Wenger's.

YNWAdam

The last thing we want to be doing is playing in thongs!

Haha guys. Damn phone!

22 Nov 2013 15:49:25
Hi willie8 - don't you watch the ladies?
DM2013

Thongs are interesting man

You win nothongs with kids

Thongs can only get better!

Now we know what the 'T' in Mr T stands for.

22 Nov 2013 10:48:21
we need a win tomorrow and I hope suarez and sturridge are fit to play becaause everton will be ready for us.
FSG policy is to bring in young talented players and I agree.
we should get morrison from west ham he fits the bill.
morrison will be a world beater in years to come pure class.
our first eleven can beat anyone on the day but we need more quality on the bench.
looking at the squad defensively we only need left sided defender with attacking skills.
in midfield morrison would be great can play in the gerrard and coutinho role.
i would not buy another midfielder because I think rossiter will be rotating with lucas next season.
attackers we need we need another forward of the same level as suarez/sturridge.
lukaku belongs to chelsea and they will will proberly bring in falcao so next season lukaku will proberly be for sale.(lukaku-suarez lukaku-sturridge will be unstoppable)
and we need 1 winger, ibe and sterling will only get better.
and the situation we are in I would sell suarez if a 60-70 mil offer would come in summer.
we could buy lukaku-morrison-left defender with his sale and have a better team and still have a budget to buy a striker.
future is bright malta

22 Nov 2013 22:41:46
Hell no to Morrison, he's Luis + Raheem x 10 in problems, and a Manc cast iff.

22 Nov 2013 08:01:03
Everyone naming teams on here my question is Flanagan or cisskho to start who would you rather out of only them two

22 Nov 2013 09:53:08
Although Cissokho is yet to impress, I guess he needs to settle into the team.
No disrespect to Flanagan but he is a decent Championship RB at best and at arsenal he was shocking, 3 out of 9 tackles, passed 8 wrong passes, won 1 out of 4 duels and crossed the halfway line 3 times in 60 minutes, while Henderson when switched to RB when flanno was subbed managed to get forward 6 times, twice as much is half the time. I can't even remember a game where flanagan has impressed even at U-21 level.

Yeah true Henderson out there Allen in the center also what about Martin Kelly surely he should be nearing fitness