Liverpool Banter Archive May 22 2013

22 May 2013 22:12:22
Well I think most people know now but for those who don't sergi canos, a promising pacy young forward has signed for lfc from fc barcelona, he will soon link up with the academy.

Lil Red

22 May 2013 22:01:46
How many so called first team players can you see being moved on and how many players can you coming in for the first team. how much money do you think we will have to spend

First team players moving that have been used by Liverpool this season.
7
Reina
Carragher
Coates
Assaidi
Downing
Shelvey
Enrique

so called first team players that hasn't played for Liverpool this season (and wouldn't really need replacing outside of the Academy)
5
Carroll
Spearing
Pacheco
Ngoo
Flanagan

This means that we would have to replace the 7 above that have been apart of BR's Squad (Reina, Carragher, Coates, Shelvey, Enrique, Downing, Assaidi).

As well as add 2-3 players to increase the depth of the squad (those positions being; Right Winger, Defensive Midfield & a young Striker with a similar role Ngog had when he came).

Plans are in place to move Carroll, downing, shelvey, spearing and Coates on.

Skrtel and Reina will leave if the asking price is met.

Vorm will be Reina's replacement. Expect Toure and Papadopolous. The club is then looking at the young Leeds right back, a right winger and an attacking midfielder.

Why buy vorm? He is of simmilar age as Reina.
It does not fit the fsg model.

Surely we need a keep that has good distribution skills, not just a good shot stopper, and of the right age. also premiership experience could possibly be an advantage.
This would fit the fsg model.
Possibly a first/second choice international keeper due to his age, but who plays regularly for his club, has good distribution and is a good shot stopper.
All that said I would keep Reina if he wants to stay. Just my thoughts
Phooey.

22 May 2013 21:25:03
strootman, eriksen ect ect all very expensive not being in the cl costs more. we have trimmed the squad the last few will be sold this summer. we need to spend big this summer we are nearly there.

22 May 2013 21:18:08
Been a while since last posted, been reading on a daily basis, just been enjoying watching the BR haters slowly either change their tune with out admitting it or bein quiet over the last few months.
Would like to say that I for one am very impressed at the growth our club has shown over this season. Really looking forward to the next season.
Down to transfers, it seems a lot of people here are wanting erickson, papa something or other, tbh I've never heard of this Greek defender and I think we have players in our team who shouldn't be displaced by incoming players such as erickson, I'd be happy with a right winger, cb, 2 if skirtle leaves and a cdm.
If most of us were honest and this papa bloke was touted around at say £6m everyone would be saying who he, but because his price tag every one wants him. He may be brilliant I don't know but 20m for injury prone defender too much.
Kolo toure on a free, great bit of business, wage cut obviously,
But great team player, great experience.
Hope reins stays, proved a lot if us fickle fans wrong with some great performances this season.
The team and manager made some mistakes, learned from them and taking great strides forwards, can't wait to c who we actualy buy and c the team carry on next season,
Enjoy fellow reds BR and FSG are moving us forward, trust in our team

Lifelongred

That's a productive and sensible post.

Take note.

P. s You're not allowed to say positive things on here.

DaveyBootle

At times I must say we did just so awful at the hurdle. but how brendan handled january transfer situation and bring in two fantastic young prodigy players is very satisfying for the latter half of the season I must say it was a shame to beat spurs at home then go away and lose to a desperate southampton was on my belief but that is football and maybe next season lol we can make up on those hiccups. Again I really hope brendan will make swift quiet transfers and get the team ready for what lies ahead.

22 May 2013 20:46:45
Ed's could we take a punt on Carlton Cole? A cheap plan b I recken. Strong physical and an eye for a goal. {Ed002's Note - If you want.}

Carlton Cole? Are you havin a laugh?!
Why are some people so obsessed with this plan B rubbish? Why don't we just put Pulis in charge and become stoke - he's available.
We are going to be good enough to win games by playing football without having to constantly punt it up the pitch all the time!

Why do you think we are selling Carrol? have you followed anything for the last year?

. And absolute garbage

Just like Andy Carroll.

DaveyBootle

Thank you OP and thank you to Davey FowlerisGod and the 2 AP's, you have all just proved my point from my post earlier today, there is somebody suggesting a player on a free and he has been jumped on by 4 people so far ( know doubt more as I post this, ) that would have been the response had somebody posted last week that we should take a punt on Kolo Toure, but low and behold it's in the papers that BR wants him, so he's the dogs b***ocks, what a player on a free!

If we were linked with Carlton Cole through the media tomorrow on a free, I think we all know the outcome " worth a go for little money " " relatively young for a free and premier league experience, it's a win win " " you asked for a plan B striker and BR is getting you one, what more do you BR haters want " etc etc etc.

What's that old expression Davey, you will have heard it before being from Bootle, oh that's it " you crowd have more faces then the town hall clock ".


Waro

I'd rather sign Nat King Cole!
DT

Uhm, Waro it's because Kolo has experience at the top, winning titles and being a member in winning teams. Carlton Cole has achieved what? Promotion from the championship? Way to overthink it.

Waro the difference is Toure is a proven player of premier league quality who has won trophies and has 95 international caps and would add something to the group, replacing an experienced player with another. No disrespect to carlton cole but he has no proven quality who wouldn't fit in or add anything to the Liverpool squad apart from the origional posters reason to have a lump upfront to smack long balls to (or this plan B rubbish) and even then he wouldn't do anything with it.
It doesn't prove anything, let alone the pathetic non-sense that you were dribbling on about.
The fact is the Toure deal would make sense in light of Carra finnishing, a deal for carlton cole wouldn't.
You like anyone else are entitled to your opinion but you don't half talk some rubbish lad.

dannyMAC

23 May 2013 07:45:50
PLan B. not again. and if happens. Plss. not carton cole.

Plan b if needed sturridge could play there and we could hump the ball up to him that would mean we could remove the midfield and have 1 extra defender and one extra attacker. I do admit that I know little about football but would rather watch the attractive games that we played this season ok not always successful but at least a joy to watch, and with luis out it has shown there are other players that can play there I would like to see sturridge stay in the centre and luis moved out wide.

Plan B?
Try Plan Z4. That's 4th reserve to the Zeds! Of whom Sean Dundee is still Z1. First reserve.

More garbage rumours about Cole and more garbage responses from Waro. Biggest difference is that Kolo would be a semi-decent free transfer.

Warp I agree with you that some people just jump on the band wagon when someone is linked. Carlton Cole is a terrible shout though

Walls

Or Old King Cole.


He was a merry old soul.

Waro, carlon cole? he doesn't play at westham and Kolo toure a champion and a leader for his country and club, how on earth can you e3ven compare the 2. man united have problems. you better lay that egg soon, it seems to be causing you problems.

Or even old king cole

Oh my god, do any of you actually read the posts, I don't want Carlton Cole FFS, I am pointig out how we get linked with a player and all the positives you can try and dig up appear on here to justify Rodgers wanting the player, the original poster said he thinks Cole is worth a punt and I was pointing out how you jumped on him about it, the EXACT same thing would have happened had someone suggested Kolo Toure out of the blue, I can't dumb it down anymore for you dannyMAC, but it's clear that your knowledge of the game of football is zero. It's fans like you who are the embarrising side of Liverpool Football Club, as I said yesterday.

Waro

Waro, your like an angry dog and the posters are like your stick prodding you. don't rise to it lad. in fact no do, its dead entertaining

Totally agree fowler is god :)

Hahaaa

waro, no one is embaressing Liverpool football club, take a chill pill, relax.
ha, what you walk around Liverpool all day picking fights with people who banter about us? because if you do, you the only one embaressing the club. I suggested Kolo toure and Hangeland when he was free before he signed a new contract and I agree with you, I got a lot of bad responses but Carlton Cole is just way way way way out there.

Ha Ha Fowlerisgod, ( I prefare the term Rabid Dog lad ) you can't beat a good argument mate, I will have it if people want it, love all that me!

Waro aka Mr J. Barton

Waro lad take a step back and take a look at yourself and look at the absolute rubbish that you post on a consistant basis and you will realise that you're the only one embarrassing yourself. Like the fact that you think that you're this higher level of supporter because you live in the city. If we didn't have support from around the world we'd be badly financially hindered compared to other clubs.
I'm 35, born in Liverpool, lived in Liverpool my whole life, been going to the match since 1984 but that doesn't make me a better or worse fan than anyone else or more entitled to be a fan more than anyone else on the planet.
And by the way my knowledge of the game it's absolutely fine thankyou very much.

dannyMAC

22 May 2013 18:34:31
Hi Ed`s. Do you personally think we will buy the replacement for gerrard this summer? I am aware of our frail defence, I think we need a player like yaya toure, someone who is hard to break down but can pass exceptional, and be solid in front of our defence. {Ed052's Note - no, a Gerrard replacement wont be this summer}

Part one of two players to replace gerrard could be this window in eriksen I think then a player in the mould of alonso further down the line (two players with the attributes of our star number 8)

You say that as if there are players as good as Yaya Toure all over the place to choose from! In my opinion he is as good a central midfielder as there is in the world. He does the work of two players, tackles, surprising turn of pace, can pass, shoot and score. Without him (and Kompany) I think City would have fallen well short both last year and this.

In short, players like him are hard to come by, and probably a bit too expensive!

Yeah but if you look at our Gerrard & Carragher mould do you think we would of won what they achieved? I think your mental mate, your thought is way set below your standard of what I mention. I simply say a replacement of gerrard. I compared to yaya, fair enough they bought him from a very good barcelona, but we must think ahead as fans to what is next in our (no 8) gerrard is simply not getting younger, and to see carragher go at 35 is a scarey thought when gerrard is 33. I think in all dues we should be looking a top classic game changer who is hungry to play.

We already have the replacement of Gerrard his name is

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Marc Pelosi

box to box midfielder, he is veryyy good at shooting from distance. and like Gerrard early in the career Pelosi can play CM, AM, SS or as a Winger. the only difference his he is left footed. oh and he doesn't mind putting in a tackle (although he isn't rash), has a very accurate pass, at 18 is 6ft tall and has leadership qualities (USA U20 Captain)

What makes people think there is another Steven Gerrard.
Yes there will be better players some day, but not the same.
Enjoy watching him play while he's here. Then move on.

Why are we looking to replace him?

I think he still has a role in the first team.

22 May 2013 20:26:06
Can Strootman play holding midfield? Would be ideal

22 May 2013 20:43:53
your saying he would be ideal yet you obv never seen him play as you don't know his attributes. you hear a fancy name and assume its what we need. if he was coming to the prem it will be united i'm afraid. we won't be looking at those kind of names

I'd play him left wing pal. He's big strong quick and can score. Like Bale. He would be a dream signing for me but I think United want him

22 May 2013 20:57:11
Hes the best player in the dutch league by far, and he is a deep lying midfielder. His ability is more expansive than merely being defensive. Him and Henderson would be a formidable partnership for the next 10 years. Gerrard won't be here forever and Strootman could fill the void of our midfield general. He'd be expensive though.

YNWAdam

No he's saying it would be ideal as we need one

23 May 2013 07:48:42
Adam.
unfortunatly he is off to UTD

Let united have him, we are not in for him anyway

22 May 2013 20:08:56
Hoping these Toure rumours are all from his agent. No hope of top 4 next season if we don't buy well over summer. Would like to see Erikson, Alderwield or Papadopalous join.

22 May 2013 20:34:17
So you think a 21 year old (Eriksen) whos only proven himself in the Dutch league (a bit like Assaidi eyy?), an average centre back (Alderweireld) who has been described by scouts as slow both mentally and physically, and a guy whos been injured for 6 months (Papadopoulos) are better signings than 2 time premier league winner, Kolo Toure?

Admittedly, I think Papa would be great, but Eriksen is an expensive Gamble and Alderweireld is an expensive mistake. Toure is a cheap guarantee. He will likely only be an experienced squad member, so what is your problem?

YNWAdam

If we could get Eriksen we should get him. I didn't think there was a snowball in bells chance of getting him to join, but it seems there could be a chance. Expensive, yes. A gamble? Not in my opinion. He is a brilliant player, simple as - and barring any serious injuries and such, he will only get better. I would love is to get him, unfortunately I have the feeling that we won't.

God adam you chat pony you do know the difference between the toure brothers don't you god all the other supporters will be laughing there heads off at your comments he would be an ok buy that's it i'd also be embarrased picking that second medal up done nothing for it.
the interest has also been leaked by his agent let's say he made up our interest knowing were looking for a cb to gain interest for him we don't sign him bet you will be first one to say he wasnt that good anyway hope we get eriksen so he can shut you up and you can walk alone on that one

Have to disagree Adam. Alderweireld is an excellent player. Like Vermaelen and Verthonghen, he will prove to be an excellent player for whoever he signs.

Eriksen is an excellent player too, I just don't think we will move for him.

Toure is a good squad addition if we are getting him as a squad CB, but as a first choice CB to partner Agger, then we have a problem.

The real AG

23 May 2013 07:51:04
So you think a 21 year old (Eriksen) whos only proven himself in the Dutch league (a bit like Assaidi eyy?), an average centre back (Alderweireld) who has been described by scouts as slow both mentally and physically, and a guy whos been injured for 6 months (Papadopoulos) are better signings than 2 time premier league winner, Kolo Toure?

Adam. your post contradict.

kolo toure hasn't touch the ball in past two years. he won the league titles with arsenal 8 years back and one with city warming the bench.

Henderson was a one seaosn wonder. so as borini, allen and dwoning.

How did he do nothing or it?? he started all games until he was banned.

Harry, the extent to which you ignore facts and what is infront of you to make up your own rubbish never ceases to amaze me. He didn't touch the ball in 15 starts and 20 appearances this season? (or similar last season).

Henderson was a one season wonder, despite being one of our most consistent, hard working and solid players for the second half of the season?

Not even going to bother with the other three because it's so well documented that evidently you are just choosing to be ignorant over them

22 May 2013 19:59:55
Stoke keeper Asmir Begovic believes he will be the replacement for Pepe Reina should the Liverpool goalkeeper join Barcelona.

Begovic is quoted in Bosnia stating: “I want to start preparing on July 10, with all the players of Liverpool. ”

-Telegraph

22 May 2013 23:43:07
Go Bega. I wish this comes true, he's a huge fan of Liverpool, but he did'nt say this. He is not that disrespectfull to Stoke.
Aldo

Actually he did!

Do any of us speak Bosnian (or whatever they speak there, Slovakian maybe?) and has that person actually seen the interview? If the answer is no, it's not a fact

22 May 2013 19:29:31
Alright lads! Its been a while since I posted but I was just wondering whether or not we will be looking to sell Enrique? I'd be gutted if it were true.
Thanks,
Jack The Lad

When he's playing well he's one of the best.
We need more quality players to challenge his role

22 May 2013 19:12:51
How strange.
people says. we need to replace Reina whose having an awful season or two.
If so. why does worlds best club want him?

Neither Dortmund or Bayern want him Harry.

Not only that but a team whos style we seem to be trying to emulate.

Reina has wanted to leave since we blocked his move to arsenal a few years ago

23 May 2013 07:17:33
Nobody doubts his ability. He wants to move on.

23 May 2013 07:52:45
Neither Dortmund or Bayern want him Harry.

NIce one mate. include Barcelona in the list.

The majority of the people here, who understands how important a player Reina is to LFC, do NOT want him sold.

Reina wants to leave LFC, and Barca want him there.

The real AG

We should sell Reina he went off a long time ago!

22 May 2013 18:22:50
Just a thought if Falcao leaves Athletico for the Prem, and not wanting to do a Spurs. but whoever they are after for their next striker we should steam in there and nick him. They have good form man.

Alfie

Yeah because Adebayor set the world alight this season didn't he!

We really just have to worry about our own house, not anyone elses.

We already have him. suarez

Adebayor plays for spurs this guy is saying we should follow athletico Madrid

That's right mate. To break it down for the others.

Torres, Aguero, and Falcao are not bad players. If they sell Falcao they will be looking to replace him. Whoever that is we should steam in and sign him.

Maybe he could play with Suarez too.

Alfie

I think Torres might be heading back to Athletico.

The Irish Rover

Something tells me they would go after Jackson Martinez, just my humbled opinion though

I doubt Atletico can match his wages. I think he will stay at Chelsea for another year or until next January.

The real AG

22 May 2013 17:56:43
why do so many make the point of eriksen and coutinho in the one team a problem? if eriksen did come it would be a no brainer. its like saying barca have messi so they don't need iniestai!
5 gold stars

For me, it's simply because it's a position (CAM or CM) we already have adequate depth in whereas we have problems in other areas this doesn't solve (e. g. CB, LB, and CDM).

For CAM and/or CM, we've already got Countinho (who has been brilliant there) and Suso (who could be brilliant there, but will never get a chance if we bring in yet another one). Add to that Gerrard, Henderson, Shelvey, Allen and whoever else I've forgotten and this doesn't seem to me a position where we need much more depth at the moment.

If we had unlimited funds, then great, go get the lad, but we don't so I'd prefer us spend that money on a good backup for Lucas, new defenders, or perhaps a new wide forward.

We need more goals and eriksen would give it let's say god forbid suarez or sturridge get injured were short on goals
yes we need defenders but what is wrong improving the attack you never know we might regret not doing it this time next year

22 May 2013 17:33:36
heard Rodgers is taking a look at adding some back room staff! He is keen on getting a new defence/GK coach! Whisper is Colin Pascoe is not the answer players don't rate him! Sounds like massive changes! Paco Ayesteran is the front runner still lives in Liverpool and loves the club! Cheers PDLFC

I hope this is true about pascoe as I didn't think he was up to it. Admittedley I don't know much about. However he is assistant manager not goalkeeper or designated coach

Mate if we can get Paco back i'll chip in with his wages. The blokes a legend.

Alfie

So we get him back just as were about to sell Pepe. Yeah that makes sence.

23 May 2013 07:20:05
Truth from Alfie.

22 May 2013 17:04:26
the following to leave Liverpool?
1. Carra (retirement)
2. Carroll (WHU or NUFC).
3. Reina to Barca or others.
4. Skrtel - Zenit.
5. Coates.
6. Michael Ngoo to Hearts.
7. Danny Wilson to Hearts.

22 May 2013 17:13:19
I thought that said Carroll (retirement) then. To be fair it wouldn't totally shock me!

Hearts will be bust so no chance
U must support hearts

He must support Hearts? Or perhaps he's noted that both Ngoo and Wilson played there on loan- so it's hardly illogical to think that could be where they move permanently! In fact, Wilson is close to agreeing to a permanent move there

22 May 2013 18:06:03
Eds are these the seven that Macca thinks will leave?

{Ed033's Note - No, if it was Macca then it would have:
Cheers

Macca

at the end of the post followed by a blue link saying Macca in a box and it would be on the Macca page.

23 May 2013 13:30:27
I know ed. Macca said two days ago that maybe 6-7 will leave. Think Spearing will leave too {Ed023's Note - Yes}

23 May 2013 13:43:17
I don't think the Ed understood the question, but the answer is unknown, it was just a number stated by Macca. Could be anyone I think. {Ed023's Note - Me? I was asked if Spearing would be one of the 7 to leave and I said yes.}

22 May 2013 16:45:26
Free Transfers avalable
:Ittura
:Flamini
:Toure
:J. Saviola
:Diakete
:Honda Pre-Contact.

Saviola will probably go to Turkey (retirement home) or Argentina.

22 May 2013 16:03:57
not lfc related but looks like porto manager{V�tor Pereira} has been sounded out as the everton manager even though phil nevil wants it.

They may not be the biggest team but they would be huge for a first time manager

22 May 2013 17:14:14
I hope they get the Preston manager again. And keep them for 11 years whilst they win nothing.

22 May 2013 15:47:50
What is going to happen to spearing?

If Benitez doesn't return in time to save him, he'll be killed by the evil Dr Rogers machine of destruction as the entire LFC crushes him.

Alternative, he will be sold for not really making the grade and will enjoy a successful career as a high championship/low premiership key man

We might get 1 to 2 million for him and good luck to him

He'd make a great ball boy

22 May 2013 19:50:18
or pumpkin mould, lol

Good luck Jay, you'll earn millions more than me,.

YNWA

22 May 2013 15:39:49
Any interest in Victor Fischer

Ste Pickles

22 May 2013 15:17:33
BR is our messiah. Support BR and he will coach our team to beat one of our top four opponents. Yes I will support LFC till my last breath but I will be damned if I agree to support this clown who has just been riding his luck. I remember all of you singing his praises when we beat Useless Newcastle and I warned you the big bad wolf Everton was coming to Anfield. I don't see those supporters jumping with joyafter that game. Everyone can be successful in recruiting a good player now and then. Hodgson brought Meirless with some useless players. Hence BR is not a genius in bringing Coutinho. In my opinion jury is still out on Sturridge who will continue to be selfish and cause arguments with other team members. BR is hung on Swansea and more rubbish like Vorm and Williams are on his radar. BR is not our messiah but the Pied Piper who will lead us to mediocrity. I hope Man City take him of our hands then he can buy the whole Swansea team and Allen and Borini and continue his BS philosophy.

I get a feeling that you're going to be eating your words come the end of next season?
What would you have us do? Ditch Rogers, bring in a different manager? How long will you give the new manager until you start writing negative posts?
Rogers is the right man for the job. He is the man to take us forward.

Grant.

In Rodgers we trust

Unbelievable I refuse to believe these are Liverpool fans its so obvious that we are on the rise why can't they see it?

No point arguing with persons like this. All they'll do is moan regardless, it's a hobby to them.

JFT 96

JP

Jury still out - are you serious? - What on earth would Liverpool want with an unproven ( appears to be your opinion ) striker that scores 11 goals in 15 games. You've left me ( and probably others on this site ) wondering who exactly the clown is - I've got my idea.
Meireles was, and still is a very average player who hit a purple patch in 5 games. And apart from newspaper reports - do you know for definite BR is interested in Vorm or Williams.

Whatever you feel about him, the simple fact is he is our manager. Nobody knows for sure how he will end up doing, but I get the feeling that you are one of those people who will keep slagging him off, no matter how well he does, just waiting for the times where you can say 'I told you so!'

Instead of brewing all that anger and distrust inside you, why don't you free your mind and get behind the man. His job won't be made any easier by the likes of you, but as I say you want him to fail, so you would probably be delighted. It gets a bit boring reading all the doom and gloom from people about what might happen.

Where you get your info on Sturridge unsettling the team, I have no idea. From what I know he is a nice lad.

I don't mind people having a go at Rodgers for things he has done wrong, but having a go at him about things that havn't happened and probably never will is just moronic. Try harder to be a supporter.

Who do you want in charge then?

Think we need to stop the leaky defence, get shot of a few of the deadwood players and we are definitely looking at a brighter season. Br has made a few mistakes, but give the poor guy a chance, you can't expect us to be world beaters in one season.

We almost got the mix right under Rafa the year we came second but ran into two planks who nearly destroyed our great club!

Br is doing a good job, like him or hate him, he's the man for us-I was sceptical and actually wanted Rafa back-but he's doing what we need.

We have a massive season ahead of us, please just back the team and manager and stop the useless cries of out with the manager!

Red till I die

In Brendan we trust

I did a count with some mates a week ago. According to 'credible' media reports (top 10 newspapers, Sky, Espn, tv etc so not random bloggers or twitter only) and we had been linked with bids for 146 players in 13 leagues. Don't believe what you read.

And I agree with John B fully - any other striker scores 11 in 15 and you'll be worshiping him. He's selfish because he's a striker - he's paid to try and score from good positions but he still has 5 assists in those 15 games, he's not THAT selfish. And what arguments has he causesd? Actually, what argument has he caused in his entire career with any players for that matter? Another person making up incidents for their own ridiculous adgenda

I never understand why strikers get slated for being greedy in the box from time to time - it's their job! that's why they score goals!!

The guy obviously got the response he wanted. Chuffed we all stood together on this one.

In future though don't even reply to them they'll soon get the message and do one.

Alfie

Firstly I apologize to any other supporter who felt I was whinging. But I am disappointed that you believe our mediocre season was progressive. This is a banter page and I am entitled to express my opinion. I will respond to each comment in the order replied:

Grant I hope you are right and if BR turns it around I will unreservedly apologise for my comments. For your information I gave BR until 18th April 2013 before commenting.

Singred: Rodgers I don't trust. Ask any Reading Fan.

If you call being beaten by Oldham a rise then there will be many more next year.

JFT96 I don't moan but state it as I see it. At 57 years of age I have seen more LFC joy to work out we are in decline.

John B Your comment is the one which requires my clarification. I have no doubt that Sturridge is an above average striker but no team has ever succeeded without team work. the reason the jury is out is because I am not so sure if he will mend his selfish ways. It is the goals we miss because of these motivations which hurt more then the joy of the one's he scores. You only need to replay his games since joining us to see that he has not changed. There is a comment about him in today's media whcih you can search on the net: "Daniel Sturridge? Terrific goalscorer, but almost irredeemably selfish as a player. There's a reason Manchester City and Chelsea have both seen fit to let him go in his short career. And that reason might just be those dreadful goal celebrations. "

I accept he is our manager and I have kept my gob buttoned until 18th April to give him a chance. If sturridge continues his ways then the players servicing him with a view of receiving the pass will be upset and will cause tensions.

I want a manager who can see further then the incumbents of his last team.

May be if he turns it around I will also fall in line but I can't see the light at the end of tunnel if his choices are Kolo Toure, Williams and Vorm.

I am not prepared to bury my head in sand - In Brendon I have no trust.

I agree the strikers can be selfish but there is a difference if you are a ball hog and deny others easy opportunities.

It is the goals they don't score which worry me.

I was not looking for a reaction but wanted to state my views to the blind supporters who make LFC supporters look childish. {Ed001's Note - he saw far enough to sign Assaidi, Yesil and Coutinho, none of which were playing for his previous teams. Idiotic and bitter little comment that was by you, quite sad really, because you have made all your other points moot, because you clearly haven't the sense to see anything other than what suits your agenda.}

22 May 2013 15:05:02
eds, are we definitely interested in kolo toure? personally, I think that he'd be an ideal replacement for Carra purely for his experience
YNWA {Ed019's Note - Yes}

Why are we are him clumsy mess at the back

A clumsey mess at the back?
The Arsenal defence has not been the same since he left them.

22 May 2013 15:09:23
Fulham have signed defender Fernando Amorebieta and midfielder Derek Boateng on free transfers

We were not in for Amorebata?

22 May 2013 15:55:09
Do we really want the same toure that got a torrid time by the apparently so called flash in the pan that is raheem sterling honestly I believe in the manager but if we want to capatilise in the other team in transition we've got to be looking at better than toure plus I think getting rid of 7 players is a lot for us we are already one of the lightest squad
Davyp

Years experience in the Premier League:
Toure - 10 years
Amorebatia - 0 years

I'm guessing that Rodgers was hoping for an experienced Premier League defender to fill the void left in a young squad by Carraghers retirment. Amorebatia doesn't match that requirement (and actually isn't that good, Bilbao's Europa League cup run 2011/12 aside).

Davey mate your right about the squad been light but, Ngoo, Wilson, Carrol, Spearing, Pacheco were all out on loan anyway Carra retires and it looks like Pepe and Skertle could be leaving.
I think there will be 2 CB's in ( although Kelly may get the nod there with Toure first choice ), A right sided attacker and another holding mid.

22 May 2013 14:40:42
Guys I am a massive Leeds United fan but look at Liverpool as kinda my second club always hope they do well for the last couple a years I have a passion for watching brazilian and argentinian football there is one player in particular I have watched so often in admiration his name is Luciano Vietto he playes as a striker for racing and have been hearing Liverpool are looking at getting him its been widely reported that he is looking to head to europe this summer to progress his career if you don't know him look him up the lad is immense and has the potential to be on par or even greater than messi which might get me in a bitta touble with you guys but seriously he is that good just wanna say I hope ye get him as him and suarez would be incredible as he plays with a similar suarezesque player in ricky centurion who is another quality player Let me know what ye think ( Main rumours Page)

22 May 2013 13:03:25
Hi ed's, seeing Isla may be looking for a move away from Juve this summer. Any interest from us and if so would we have a chance?

Also, if reina were to leave could you see Zieler being an option?

Optimistic for a good summer window for once and hopefully the squad will be looking good come September!
Cheers

22 May 2013 14:10:18
ed now that carroll has gone what are the chances (if any) of a deal for erickson being done shortly? Does Macca have any info on this? {Ed052's Note - I dont see the two deals as being related }

Rather think about investing the carroll money on PAPA the greek CB and Digne (LB).
I genuinely don't feel we need erikson.
We are in more need of Etinne Capoue or Strootman.

Carroll has not gone. In fact the deal won't happen as 1. his does not want to make the move. and 2. he will be out for up to 4 months with a heel injury.

Marc {Ed023's Note - I don't think he is out for that long at all. He will back pre-season}

Carroll is gone, the clubs wouldn't agree on a fee if they didn't already inform his agent atleast, he was propably allowed to speak to them about his wages etc. before the 2 clubs negotiated the deal.
Only formalities remain and hopefully within a week all will be sorted.

So Ed023,

Do you expect the West ham deal to be completed? or does a move elsewhere seem more likely?

Regards

Marc {Ed023's Note - I think Andy can only answer that but IMO I think he will sign with West Ham}

22 May 2013 14:00:00
Begovic for Reina

Toure for Carragher
Papadopolous for Skrtel
Llori for Coates

Medel for Spearing
Eriksen for Shelvey

Tello for Downing
Capel for Assaidi

Son for Carroll


Only a opinion and its hardly likely we will see all of these faces at Liverpool come August but for me, that would be a perfect summer!

Apples '96'

Replace:
Begovic with Vorm
Medal with L. Bender
Tello with A. Sanchez

and you have my vote!

IMO don't need Son or Capel (our youngsters instead!)

K79

Begovic is better not to mention younger than Vorm

Thought carroll was having a daughter

22 May 2013 13:32:34
So according to Macca we will have 25M to spend, a possible 15M coming in from Carroll. Then talk of a 10M move for Reina.

Im not going to do the maths but looks like a pretty healthy budget. In my opinion we don't need a huge over haul of the squad as we have a lot of promising youth players coming through. The one obvious area we need to improve is defence

Then the deadwood in Spearing, Wilson, Assaidi, Coates, Pacheco. Just say for arguments sake that could be another 10M in player sales.

It'll be an interesting summer

Don't forget the sale of Skrtel for atleast 12M.

Skrtel won't be going BR will target Juraj Kucka giving Skrtel a mate. He will be back up to Lucas and replacing spearing.

22 May 2013 13:26:54
Guardian nreporting that we are in for Ron Robert Zieler the Hannover keeper. Is this just papertalk?

Kluge

The guardian reporting just paper talk made me smile

22 May 2013 13:09:50
Gotta say, I understood why Rodgers went for Allen as he was a stalwart for Swansea in their first season, and I've understood the logic in his signings since, I can even see full sense in Toure on a free, however got to be said I'm dubious about Vorm. Swansea would not let him go for cheap (contracted until 2016), and considering he is around the same age as Reina I cannot see why he would be first choice replacement. Would much rather just keep Pepe (that's if he wants to stay - if Barca come knocking then fair play). I haven't seen a lot of Mignolet (due to my own ignorance of not paying attention to Sunderland) however a lot of people I've spoken to have said he is fantastic. Other keepers as well such as Zieler and Begovic would surely be worth a punt first? Zieler has been great for Hannover and at 24 can only improve. Granted Vorm has PL experience, but is he worth investing money in?

JFT 96

JP

22 May 2013 12:53:55
A testimony to improvement in BR's reign is quite evident on this site only. How? In second half of season complaints of side-pass and back-pass are gone!

Do those mongers still have complaints that we don't pass forward. I think second half football was as good as I have seen LFC play in more than a decade. Every time we went on attack, we looked like creating chances in the box.

IF we could sign:

1) RW- Ince/Payet/Dzudazk
2) CDM- Diame/Gustavo
3) 2 CB's- Papaduopolos/Ilori/Toby

I think we are good to go for Top 4!

Impatiently looking forward to next season!

Indian with Red Heart

I think what we have been really missing in the middle of the pitch is an in form Lucas. He's been good but no where near at his best before his injuries. When he's back to full match fitness he will make such a difference. I think we're going for Papadopoulus because he's strong and can cover the CDM position. If we do get Toure I can see us lining up against the likes of Stoke, Aston Villa, Everton and other big physical teams with Toure at the back and papa in the cdm role. Which will give us height when defending set pieces and a bit more steal.

Ins:
Papadopoulos
Toure
LB competion
Right Winger

then if we have enough funds I think we will look at a ST or CAM

LB competion is a baseball player lad.
Naw.
Be honest who was going to google that?
derryred

22 May 2013 12:28:10
Liverpool's decline will continue.

The manager, cannot get Swansea out of his head so he wants Vorm, Ashley or the whole team he had when he was there.
Now he wants to pay a fortune in wages for an old man who is clearly past his best. Rather like Liverpool.

Any other opinion is daydreaming and wishful thinking.

Dave T.

22 May 2013 12:41:44
Wishful thinking from you that we're in decline. We're on the way up. Whoever you support will be in decline, unless you're a chelsea fan.

Agreed. Williams and Vorm are not good enough for LFC.
G

Thanks for imbecile-like comments.

The real AG

That's true, we r going well well backwards, Brendon only knows how to buy his ex team players Swansea, and Chelsea reserve team, (allen, borini), listen we r LFC, if 1 player that we need its HONDA, and its going 2 b huge 4 Asian market, that's sort of situation dosnt come on Brendon brain, he've got small team and reserve teams attitude, and don't mention sturridge he came because he was LFC long term target and not brendon signing, brendon make him play because of Suarez ban, before u have 2 c brendon critics against him, I have never seen him criticizing Allen and borini, the way he did on sturridge, we paid a lot of money 4 Allen and borini, so they flop because they wer not a good signings, brendon kistakes, if u want 2 stick with them at the end of the day they won't perform and u willed up loosing your job, we r Lfc so get Lfc collety player's like coutinho, as far I'm concern even Lfc youth academy has gone wery wery bad since rafa left, our scouts r so bad that they can't even spot a good young talent, wile at rafas time we had 1 of the best scout around the world.

"any other opinion is daydreaming and wishful thinking". WOW.
I think we are all agreed on one thing.
Your off your cake Dave T.

Remind me when coutinho and sturridge were at swansea?
derryred

22 May 2013 11:51:20
Vorm is just a bad choice full stop. Been average at best this season - why is Rodgers so fixated on revisiting his old team to buy players?

Vorm is class in my opinion. would not mind having him replace Reina!

I watch Swansea regularly, although I am not a fan.

In my opinion, Vorm is one of the best keepers in the league. Reliable and sometimes brilliant. He would also fit into Liverpool's system better than most.

I'd rather have reina in all honesty even though he has been poor in our last two seasons he still has the class to pull off top class saves.
derryred

Vorm been injured a lot this season I thought still he's a similar keeper to pepe and probably the best Dutch gk currently I'd still take him for the right price.

If you've been watching Swansea, do you know the deal with his injuries? If he fragile or has he just been a bit unlucky?

22 May 2013 11:50:46
Carroll deal being held up for 2 reasons: firstly, Carroll isn't sure he wants to move to WH and secondly, indications that another club is considering a bid. This second bid has more favourable terms for Liverpool.
West Ham offered £12 million up front, which in transfer terms means payable over 12 months - in line with new Premiership rules and other clauses for a total fee of £15 million. This other club is offering a similar deal but with the money paid over 6 months.

22 May 2013 11:37:51
For me, i'd like this window to be as follows
If reina goes then get zieler or curtois

sell : skrtel, wilson, spearing, shelvey, pacheco, downing, assaidi, carroll, morgan

loan : suso, coates, flanno, jack robinson, ngoo

buy : papa, kolo toure, lucas digne, christian eriksen and if possible buy a dm like capoue or fernando reges

give wisdom a chance as a cb, mclaughlin as rb, sterling and ibe more chances on the wings, borini as a backup striker to sturridge

what do you think eds?

El Capitano

And one of these wingers mcmanaman, ben arfa, taarabt, mertens, griezmann, romain alessandrini or even tello/ince although I hate them but just for more depth

So, that's 14 players out and 4 players in? Thought our squad was thin already.

Erik_Oslo

It is thin but no point keeping players who don't play

No point keeping players who you hope will get better

8 of the 14 out hasn't played for Liverpool this season. but yeah just 5 in isn't enough.

with those outs (but keeping skrtel) i'd say these in;

kyriakos papa, tiago ilori, lucas digne, juraj kucka, christian erisken, heung-min son, diego capel and juan iturbe.

Guys 9 or even 10 players of these 14 didn't play even 180 mins last year. for me I would like more additions for sure, but the problem is with the funds, if we still have funds then yes we need another dm and a winger too
El capitano

22 May 2013 11:27:00
Is sergi canos deal done and dusted?

Its certainly dusted I feel

22 May 2013 10:58:52
Love this site, on it seveal times a day.

Last game of the season played on Sunday and already getting goose bumps thinking of what is discussed/talked about for next season. Have faith all, BR & co look like they know what they are doing.

96xx

22 May 2013 10:06:09
Hi Ed's, Not a rumour but could you inform of anything
you are aware of regarding Andy Carroll's contract to do with a sell on fee to Newcastle. After paying 35mill were we silly enough to agree to this also.

BelfastRED {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

I cannot imagine there would be a 25% sell on clause installed in the contract. Then again I cannot believe a club would pay £36m for Andy Carroll so you never know. Probably a Twitter wind-up. Personally I would have thought AC would hold out for a Newcastle move until the end of the window.

Disney!

It seems like a ludicrous idea. Maybe that kind of clause, if present, would apply to certain conditions met, like CL football or if LFC sell Carroll at a profit?

The real AG

Disney! Personally I cannot imagine a club employing a manager who has won zip in eleven and a half years of top flight management and worked only on a shoe string, unless they plan to do the same.

Heard a whisper Moyes is looking forward to Bebe returning and feels the squad, whilst full of O. A. P's, does not need adding too. Apparently Malcolm Glazier just smiled and rubbed his hands together.

22 May 2013 09:48:43
It's interesting to see how many well educated football pundits on here now have Kolo Toure on there wish lists for new players, we get linked to someone and there World Class and we would be over the moon to sign them, is there really no lengths some of you on here will go to too prove Rodgers is the second coming of Sir Bob or Sir Bill.

Get a grip of yourselves, these kind of reactions to players we buy or are about to buy are the reason we are laughed at by other supporters, you are making Liverpool Football Club a laughing stock so FFS pack it in.

Waro

Love the optimism Waro.

22 May 2013 10:07:52
Exactly. 48 hours prior to today. no one had a clue on kolo toure.
today. he has become an example of leadership. quality. vocal. blah blah blah.
Defence is very important to any team. and all the top teams have top class CB. we need atleast 2 to compete.

Nobody is saying Kolo Toure is 'World Class' Waro.

IF, he was to sign with a significant reduction in his salary, he would be a squad CB. For a 32 year old, he is quite quick and strong and will provide experience and leadership at the back.

I am not convinced he is the best option available, but as a squad player, why not? Considering how BR has improved Henderson, Downing, Coutinho and Sturridge.

If he was a at Bayern or Barcelona, everybody would be saying what a great signing.

The real AG

I agree - best not to talk about any transfer rumours on a transfer banter site. And if you do dare talk about who we are being linked with, only slag them off please. Some of us only like bad, dark and depressing posts to read on here, no optimism please. Just in case other fans laugh at us.

By thinking that a good, solid CB that we didn't really think of before would be a decent purchase on the right terms to add experience to our line, we are making Liverpool an embarrassment? As always Waro, the embarrassment hanging around is pretty clear to most

22 May 2013 10:25:53
Nope. he would never end up at bayern or real madrid. the guy almost loss the touch on the pitch. I haven't seen him playing full 90 mts this whole season more 3-4 occassions.
city could be the only team in the world to pay the wages to a player who don't even make it to the bench like hargreeves.
If he would have accpeted a wage cut. probably would have got a contract at city.

Its amazing how self pontificating know it alls like you think you are the authority on football. Toure is a cheap option to increase our squad depth - I've not heard anybody hailing him as world class. It makes sense from a financial and footballing point of view and, as our interest looks solid, fans are warming to the idea - calling us a laughing stock and insulting fans is pathetic, jog on.

Sort it out Waro lad.

If it happens, you've got to support the player.

The club need to be careful with the money.

He's on a free, has the league experience and was a very good player when given a decent run of games.

I'm sure he would love to prove himself again.

You see, what are good fans?

Are they fans who defend players and managers alike?

Or are they fans who criticise both a player and manager in one sentence?

You get me?

DaveyBootle

No sam, it's so called football experts such as yourself who think because they have managed a team on a playstation that they are aware of all the best players around the world and the best formations that we should be playing.

Quite a few people on here constantly bang on about BR bringing the wage bill down and average age of the squad down so as to champion the abilitys of the manager, yet you all seem happy to spend quite a few million on a player who has played very little competitive football in the last 2 years, who has a questionable reputation and who at the age of 32 pushing 33 could well be looking for one last big pay day.

That is were the contridiction lies with you and quite a few like you sam, I live in the City and have to defend the club from people such as yourself, with there ridiculous comments the moment we are linked to a player ( I suggest you look down the pages regarding the comments on Toure sam, we are linked to Toure then he's on everyones delighted wishlist on summer transfers ).

I assume you live outside Liverpool sam so don't get involved with Everton fans or the odd United fan so maybe if you had to constantly have to defend the club against the " everything that Liverpool do is fantastic fan ", then maybe you could understand were i'm coming from.

Waro

I just think the benefits would outweigh the disadvantages of completing a deal like this particularly if we could get Toure on a competitive wage. If Skrtel and Coates also leave someone like Zouma or Papadopoulos could step in with KT and we would have decent options at CB particularly with Jones, Wisdom & Kelly coming through. It also wouldn't affect our transfer budget very much allowing us to strengthen other areas of the team. KT brings experience and versatility and the fact that he would not have to move & his brother is nearby could make an LFC an attractive proposition for him. Win/Win situation IMO.
DT

Harry, you once again prove how clueless you are. I was not talking about Toure going to Bayern or Barca, but how a defender like him, if we had interest in, were from Barca or Bayern, people like you would not be slating.

As for no one here having not hailed Toure as a leader and all that other crap you spouted, why would anyone here, the LFC page, want to preach the qualities of a player of another team, especially since it is City and there was no known interest until a couple of days back.

The real AG

No anonymous poster it's not dark and depressing at all, talk about what you think of the player, what you think he will bring, is he worth the many millions we would spend to bring him in. NOT here are the players I would love us to sign and include every player we have recently been linked with, heres a novel idea, have your own opinion on players you have seen a bit of, would any of you 3 days ago mentioned Toure as a player you would like to sign? A. ) NO.

If anyone on here would have mentioned Toure as a potential signing last week you would have jumped on his many failings as a player and accused the poster of being clueless, yet here we are, he's linked and now it's excellent buisness, that's were the embarrasing of Liverpool comes in.

Do I think he would be a good signing? On balance no, would I support him if we sign him? Yes.

But what I will say is I do like the fact Rodgers is looking for some experience to bring to the team, but on balance as i've said, Toure wouldn't be my choice.

Waro

Other fans laugh at us on here because some persons try to sound smug about Golem going to Utd. Leave it alone Waro and let others have their opinions.

Waro you are the biggest joke in Liverpool. Who out of interest is on your 'wish list'? Go on - who do you think we should sign this summer and why? I love how you always harp on about being from Liverpool so you have this divine right to disregard an opinion if a supporter isn't from Liverpool.

THERE ARE MILLIONS OF FANS NOT FROM LIVERPOOL THAT SUPPORT LFC.

Don't you think that LFC would have zero money to spend in the summer without such a big fan base? How would Warrior sell hundreds of thousands of shirts? Where would sponsorship money come from. All points that highlight the fact that you consistently act like an adult baby and have no clue. What a tool haha.

Fowler99

A constructive argument like Waro's last reply is what I want to see. Like Waro, I am not the biggest fan of Toure, but understand it may not be a bad signing, ON BALANCE, when you weigh up the pros and cons.

Waro, if my opinion is worth thinking over, the style your post comes across as very negative, harsh and to an extent lunatical, which is why many here condemn your ideas in my opinion. If you were to reason in your argument like you did in your last reply, I am sure most knowledgeable folks would be happy to see your view. I can't of-course speak for clueless Harry, that guy is a lost cause.

The real AG

Davey, let me ask you this. If we were linked with say Grant Holt or say I don't know Almunia if Reina went, would you defend these players and the manager for buying them? None of the posts i've seen have been about defending the player, they have been about how they would like to see him signed.

Are they good fans Dave or delusional/clueless Dave? You get me?

Waro

DT an excellent and well balanced post, that's fair enough lad, and I would listen all day to opinions like that.

Fowler99, touched a nerve have I, my post wasn't about the player but about saddos such as yourself who don't have there own opinion and just live there L. F. C. life with there head stuck in the sand, was Toure in your thoughts for a potential signing? You lad are the biggest tool in the toolbox, haha.

Waro

p. s. who would I like as signings, erm. Torres Alonso Mascherano and Riera;)

Why would we need to bring the average age of the squad down Waro? This season we had the youngest average age of all teams in the premier league

The Cobra

22 May 2013 11:58:28
The real AG.
its fine to sign someone on free and with a small wages to be a squad player.
but its ridiculous to see here people making him future captain. leader. quality. medals. strength, blah blah blah,. ,.
the other way to see this is BR doesn't have much money to go out and buy world class players. so we have to deal with toure in coming seaosns.

And yet again Waro with the further embarrassing 'I live in Liverpool and therefore I'm the best fan in the world' theory. You are a disgrace and I find it honestly upsetting that you are positioned to see Liverpool regularly and someone like Malak isn't.

And btw, just so you know - there are fans of every team all over the country. When was the last time you sat alone with a Lfc shirt in a pub full of United fans watching the Liverpool United fans? Don't talk to us about disgracing the club -your constant attacks (not disagreements, attacks) on committed fans on the grounds that they aren't from Liverpool and therefore can't possible have the right to disagree with you is a greater embarrassment to the club than the treatment of Anfield residents, the signing of Andy Carroll and the antics of Suarez combined.

I hope we get kolo so maybe he can talk yaya into leaving the sinking ship that is citeh. Seriously though I think he could do a job, he obviously isn't going to be first choice, there to add some experience and he still a decent player, obviously the wages have to be right. WARO- I love your posts mate, keep them coming.

Harry, do you even think before you write up crap?

You just contradicted yourself in your last reply. You insinuate Toure's wages would be big and hence it's not worth having him as a squad player, then say that BR doesn't have money hence why we are moving for Toure.

Man, you really are something.

And, no one is saying Toure is a future captain. You are the one who is making up this crap.

The real AG

Were have I ever used the term " I am the best fan in the world and it's because I live in Liverpool "?

Your easily upset sam, maybe you and poor Malak should look at the advantages of supporting your local team, i'm sure where ever you live there is a club desperate for your support and money, and my attacks on commited fans? Dear me were you sobbing onto your laptop when you posted, your a sensitive soul sam aren't you man up lad and either bypass my posts or don't reply shouting the odds, because if you do that then I will snap back at you, but this is straying from my OP.

My point was why when were linked with a player you lot on here then make him sound like he's a fantastic piece of buisness, DT further up the page summed up his thoughts excellently, that's how to post, not just bang on about how good a player is and what a shrewd signing he will be just because where linked with him, that was all I was trying to get across, in other words get some perspective. But as I have stated many times on here before, it's the name at the bottom not the contents of the post you crowd react to.

Waro

22 May 2013 12:58:22
Err hello? This is the same website full of angry haters slagging off players before they even kick a ball for us (Henderson, Coutinho, Sturridge).

Now he's having a pop because it's gone the other way!

Some peoples children, I guess!

WelshBoyDave

If I was crying before Waro, the idea of you teaching people how to post has made me roar with laughter

Waro mate you are definitely the Marmite of the LFC Banter page! Appreciate you recognising the content of my post. I know that it might be going against the grain a bit as it seems like you revel in your notoriety on this page but try and be a bit more positive in general fella. We're all on the same side and want the same thing so can't we all play nice?
DT

No problem DT, your post was simple and not reactionary, I may disagree with posts like yours from time to time but respect there views, it's when I see posts like the ones above and ones last night hailing a player who had Toure been suggested this time last week by a regular average Joe poster, this site would have lit up with abuse by the so called experts who frequent this site.

Waro

Have been cringing at the toure posts was a good player but never a leader thught it was campbell and kompany

Can understand the reluctance regarding Toure, but I agree with DT in that he would be a good replacement for Carra's experience etc as long as the wages and signing on fee are not ridiculous and we sign someone for the starting CB such as Papa (for example). IMO this would allow for a bit of strength in depth and I would like to see Kelly, Wisdom, McLaughlin and possibly Sama given chances to impress this season again. With Ibe, Sterling coming through too think we could be in a good position.

Bloody hell though Waro fairly divides opinion! Don't think he's the nasty person people maker him out to be though folks, he is entitled to his opinion after all, as we are all are - would agree though with one of the other posters Waro mate that you can come across as maybe abrasive but hey, each to their own, I do agree with you on some points and certainly disagree with you on others, but isn't that the point of a banter site?

Swallybean

22 May 2013 08:46:06
Hi eds,

I know this is highly unlikely but I thought I would share this story which is all over the local press here in Ireland. Liverpool have shown a serious interest in signing Seamus Coleman from their rivals? wouldn't be the worst signing but I can't see it happening, what do you think?

He is a bit of an unsung hero in evertons defence. He fights his rounds and has ability. Wouldn't be worth what everton would ask for him.
derryred

22 May 2013 09:11:02
My business for this window would be:
Sell: Coates, Shelvey, Carrol, Spearing, Skrtel

Buy: Erikson, Digne, Kolo Toure and Papadopoulos

I reckon that would be could business, maybe also send Sterling out on loan

22 May 2013 08:32:18
The Shields Gazette in Newcastle are claiming that Newcastle are entitled to 25% of the fee if Carroll is sold. Can this be true? Did we actually pay 35M + add a 25% sell-on clause in the contract?

Erik_Norway {Ed002's Note - The transfer fee was a little over £36M. I don't know anything of the detail.}

Haha, even Liverpool wouldn't have agreed such a clause. Pay a British Transfer fee record, and then top it off with a 25% sell-on clause?
You're having a laugh.
That's come right off Twitter that one.
The Juicer

22 May 2013 08:18:06
hi eds heard a rumour from a friend that stevie g has been doing his coaching badges and in return BR has set stevie g to coaching henderson and allen as he see's these as the most likely replacements do you know if this is true? {Ed002's Note - No idea, sorry.}

I would imagine as a world class CM and squad captain for over a decade, Stevie would be mentoring the likes of Hendo, Allen and Shelvey whether he has coaching badges or not?

22 May 2013 07:53:39
I get the feeling that Rodgers will play on the interest from Man City, he is very ambitious and I'm sure FSG don't want to be looking for a new manager a year after appointing him so Rodgers holds all the cards!

I think we will see him force through transfers for players he wants not the committee I. e. Vorm

What's people's thoughts

YNWA JFT96 jns

There is no interest from man city, they already have their next manager sorted so you'r argument is irrelevant
fforestfach red

22 May 2013 07:34:26
Just heard a cheeky bid for Howard Webb is being tabled around the start of June!
Taster123

Ahaha

No way we could afford him

22 May 2013 06:49:13
the left wing should be rotated between Sterling & Ibe next season. We can't make a fair assessment of Sterling's season because we were asking too much of him & over-playing him. Now we have Sturridge (Borini) to partner Suarez. No need for Coutinho on the wing as he looks so much more threatening playing centrally. That means there should be no need to pay over the odds for Ericcson if (& that's a big if) he's even a target. Henderson & Suso are excellent cover for Coutinho. Henderson scored 6 goals from midfield which is excellent considering he's barely 21 & that he was initially 2nd choice to the likes of Allen, Sahin & Shelvey. Not what many on this site would call a "Flair Player" but he he scores, assists, works hard etc. His price tag & people calling him "The New Gerrard" only put unrealistic expectations on him but he'll be fine. slodge

22 May 2013 07:20:05
countinho will be burned out. if he plays all the 50 games a season. we need another countinho to fill that role. or may be both countinho and ACM to play in the same eleven if required.
and we are talking about CL, and we need some real quality payers to compete
Eriksson is costly, But the lad is similar to countinho can assist and score goals.
I would love to have honda playing in the shirts.
he can play in a no of position which gives us a lot more going forward.
honda countinho suarez
sturridge

Henderson in 23

Henderson is barely 23 you mean

Ur getting it a bit wrong fella. I mean your right abt the talent and all but if we want to keep running in cups til last, we need bigger squad.

Last yr we won the carling cup but that was due to playes like kuyt, maxi, bellami. This year we had to put the kids on the field in many pressure matches.

22 May 2013 05:57:11
Just a quick one for u eds, can suarez play in Stevie G's testimonial even though he's on a 8 game ban?

DELAHUNTY {Ed002's Note - Yes.}

22 May 2013 03:59:37
f***s sake -
fed up reading all these pathetic posts asking about Allen /Borini leaving - these kids only joined last year, been injured for most of the season.
This time last year everyone was wanting Allen in particular. get off the kid's back and show some sensible support!
Did everyone forget Allen had a long season last year and played throu the summer in the Olympics but started the season very well. Ok he faded before his injury but give him some time. jeez!
Borini . another case in point. been unlucky and had 2 bad injuries but I reckon looked lively coming back in the last few games of the season.

Give 'em both time and hopefully we'll see them show why the club bought them last year , just like Henderson has!

No one wanted Allen or Borini to sign. They did however and so are asessed like any other player.

22 May 2013 08:50:03
No one wanted Allen or Borin!!i - I think you may be wrong, because the person that actually matters (BR) wanted them to sign - so live with it - he's been inside the game for a long time and obviously thought both players could do a good job for us, and who is to say he may well be right.

Allen was injured long before he actually left to fix his injury

Hang on a moment there Liverpool Football club pick who they want to sign for the club no us fans. No one wanted Allen or Borini! Listen john B you support the club and the players who ever they may be this in not a play station manager game these two lads have not been at the club long and most people on here slagging them off and want them out of the club if we keep going like this john B and others we would be spending millions and millions on players who the crowd like but not what the club need get a grip you red supporters will ye!!

Allen is pants and probably wets the bed. borini is so weak and easily knocked off the ball, hope I am wrong but can't see either making it.

Jimmy Carter Was Pants

22 May 2013 03:51:18
Sergi canos was at the academy today (may 21st) being shown around!

So? He's unlikely to even be in the u21 squad atm, it's not a big deal right now

How abrupt are you? meant to be very good so i'm pleased. don't think about the future then?

Ibe sterling and suso all made there senior dabs at 17 so why shouldn't we be excited?

Because as I said, he's unlikely to even spend much time in the U21 squad next season. Someone coming into the U21's set-up means they are a step off making it into the team (theoretically). This guy is at least a year off making the U21's if he develops at a really fast rate, and so much can happen over that time (and does to 95% of players) that it's really not something to be any more excited about then the young players from the U15's moving into that team

22 May 2013 03:05:57
GK targets if/when Pepe leaves; Zieler, Ochoa, Begovic and Trapp

22 May 2013 01:41:21
Liverpool representatives have been in contact with 'Stellar Football LTD' regarding Scott Sinclair, who also shares the same Agent as Kolo Toure.

It seems the media know we are in the market for CB's and they have put 2 and 2 together and come up with Kolo Toure.

Sinclair is not happy at City and before Mancini was sacked he confirmed that Sinclair's future is likely to be away from the club.

Rodgers, who knows Sinclair really well feels he would add much needed depth to his squad.

Red Lee

Please not be true

No, we have been in contact with Toure's agent/representatives/agency.

You are the one who is putting 2 and 2 and trying to get 4, possibly because you don't want Toure at LFC.

The real AG

FFS, will people please stop linking every bloody Swansea player to us its really getting ridiculous now.

Yes I have to agree with brisbane lfc its just gone beyond a joke now. its dyer were after. haha

22 May 2013 00:30:05
Thank you for all your updates, thanks for taking the time to keep us informed.

22 May 2013 00:17:43
Thanks Macca! Your information, as always, is hugely appreciated.

You mention six to seven outs; are you able to be a little more specific with who this will potentially involve?

I understand that Coates, Spearing, Jones, Ngoo etc will likely leave but i'm wondering what the plans are for Downing, Shelvey, Borini, Allen etc?

Personally, I don't like the idea of a huge squad overhaul but believe that we should be looking to improve on the likes of Downing.

Also, do you have any info on Papadopoulos, is he a genuine target? I think he'd be a great signing; young, strong, athletic and very commited.

Do any of the ed's have info/opinions on the potential outs and who they will be.

Thanks, love the site.

Nathan

22 May 2013 00:14:59
Toure isn't free. Only his tranfer fee to City is free. The player will demand a sign on fee, likely to be about £5m spread over his contract and he's going to want an attractive salary. For a player that MAY sit on the bench, that's not a particularly desirable deal.

All the players we signed so far only been offered £2m in signing on fee's

Think people get the phrase free mixed up - Free is short for Free Agent in other words Free of a contract!

To acquire a player free of contract there are signing on fees and agent fee etc. Far from FREE.

NS

22 May 2013 00:08:28
I find it absolutely staggering that a post earlier, that read "Luis Suarez has renewed his box at Anfield. Hopefully a clear indication that he has no intentions to leave" has managed to accumulate 32 "Believable's". Posting this kind of rubbish is unhelpful, as you're source of information is probably your cousin's, best mate's cat.
What we know from reputable sources within the media is that we have accepted a bid of 15m from West Ham for Carroll and that we are interested in Kolo Toure and Papadapoulos of Schalke. Personally I think Toure would add PL experience to the squad and providing we get him on a free, would be a good addition. Acquiring the services of Papadapoulos, in my opinion, would be a great signing in the long run, provided he can stay fit.
There have also been rumours of Eriksen coming in form Ajax. I've watched a lot of Dutch League football this year and the kid is an enormous talent. He has quality in abundance, is technically sound and is the kind of creative player we are looking to add to our squad. However, I do have my concerns. Eriksen would create a slight selection headache. I love Coutinho playing through the middle and would be worried that bringing in Eriksen would force Coutinho out wide, with Eriksen taking up the spaces that Coutinho loves to run into.
We're certainly in for an exciting summer, hopefully we will manage to complete any deals relatively early to allow any new players a decent pre-season.

Two reasons why Eriksen would be a good addition, from my perspective.
1) strength in depth. our first 11 is pretty solid imo but our bench needs some fine-tuning.
2) There's a lot of pressure now on Coutinho, given that he's made such a good impression. It's likely he will fall off the pace somewhat in his 2nd year as teams start figuring out how to play him. Plus, he's v. young and we need to keep him fresh.

Besides, the "headache" is a good one to have!

Just a thought.

Eriksen will not be sitting on the bench, eriksen is the real deal and only 21 and will only get better. very clever move if we buy him.

Have you seen the crossing and dead ball ability of eriksen its beckham esc we all say gerrard isn't getting any younger and we couldn't spend say 40m on a replacement for him but two players for in the region of 15m each would do it a player like eriksen for now and when gerrard retires a good passer with strength and engine any luck hendo will keep improving year by year

22 May 2013 00:02:52
Just wanted to say that I wish Carroll all the best where ever he goes. We overpayed for him, placed him under immense pressure and rarely played football that suited his strengths. Hardly his fault things didn't work out.

JC

Pretty sure being drunk a large period of time he was here was in fact his fault.

22 May 2013 07:27:23
Just wanted to say that I wish Carroll all the best where ever he goes. We overpayed for him, placed him under immense pressure and rarely played football that suited his strengths. Hardly his fault things didn't work out.

What a load of rubbish is that. we played in his strength for one full season with KK.
he was awful. bought downing to supply crosses in the box. both were awful.
it has made our owners extra careful and probably they have lost the trust they had on our managmnent.

I have no sympathy for Carroll. He had a whole year and a half to sweat it out, like Henderson is doing now.

he chose to party and get drunk, couldn't care less and only realised when he was laughed off at Toon how crap he has been.

As for not playing to his strength, would you rather we changed the Liverpool way of playing football, pass and move and go for a style that pleases Carroll? Some logic that. Change the style of an entire team to fit in an average player.

Accept that he was an expensive mistake and move on.

The real AG

No, he turned up for training drunk. He did a lot wrong, most notably not applying himself, not conducting himself in a professional manner and not striving everyday he has been at the club to become a better player. A costly mistake that we're doing well to be rid of. Don't mind a player not being good enough but to not put in the required effort is unforgivable.

21 May 2013 23:38:10
Apparently Rodgers recently had an interview for the Man City job, could any of the Eds/Macca elaborate?

22 May 2013 13:15:18
been done to death on here. go on Maccas page and scroll down.

21 May 2013 23:31:53
Hey Eds and fellow Reds.
Concerning Macca's claim that Vorm is first choice. TBH I think that would be a great move. Yes Pepe has been fantastic for us, but he's not irreplaceable. Vorm has proven just as good and with a solid defence behind him next season I'd say we'd be in good stead. The lad's a cat in goal.

I'd be happy with the signing.

I think Vorm is a very decent keeper but I'd be concerned that Swansea would want a fair amount for him (much as they did for Brendan himself and Joe Allen) and I'm not sure we couldn't do better for what I think they would want for him.

Goal keeper is the one position I feel you shouldn't look abroad for. Vorm would a great addition at the right price.

21 May 2013 23:26:44
A selection of questions/statements to be avoided during the transfer window in order to keep the Ed's sanity (what's left of it anyway);

1) Is Aquilani still an LFC player?

2) Who are our transfer targets?

3) Spurs have just bought (enter name of decent but not world class player here). Why did we not put in a cheeky bid?

4) What's the latest with Xabi Alonso?

5) (Enter name of player that you did not know until a meaningless pre-season game here) just scored against the Plymouth Argyle Reserves. Have we shown any interest?

6) Do our owners have any ambition? Getting sick of other clubs buying players

7) Anything whatsoever to do with Financial Fair Play

8) A Howard Webb remark

El Pi**edolero

Fantastic post. I'm going to keep a keen eye on the site from now on XD