Liverpool Banter Archive July 22 2013

22 Jul 2013 23:27:55
A guy I work with, who use to manage non league footie down south, told me over lunch that he knows one of the physios at LFC. He said he was with him at Reading and Swansea, so brought him to Pool. Of course, I asked if he had any info, he replied not on individual players. But he did say that Brendan is obsessed with La Liga and wants to emulate the style as much as possible. He said we are scouting Spain like no man's business, so not to be surprised if we sign more players from that league. Obviously I know this is fairly well documented, but its honest gossip, from a credible source.

Peace.

22 Jul 2013 23:16:37
spurs site saying they expect to sign soldado this week baldini is in valencia sorting it out.Tommy Irish red

Apparently its done?

Eds you are a prick. {Ed052's Note - Ain't you a cuddly one?!}

22 Jul 2013 22:51:48
"I am very strong on the values of the club, where we are and how we operate.

"Football and society is different nowadays, the [transfer] market is totally different and players can create different ways to open it up.

"But I have always said that there is no player bigger than Liverpool Football Club and that is something we are very strong on.

Comments made by Brendan at the press conference regarding LS. Good on you Brendan.

BaldyRed

22 Jul 2013 22:35:12
Re. Jay Spearing.Wigan, Bolton and Blackpool all possibilities and all tracking the player. don't rule out Blackburn despite them appearing to have failed in their bid to sign him. Talks remain ongoing I'm told

Thanks for the update if true. Can easily see him joining Wigan if McCarthy leaves for Everton.

22 Jul 2013 22:32:17
Hi ed's
Obviously a lot of cissokho rumours flying around today. Not sure how true these are in regard to Liverpool but I'd imagine its quite likely? However my north east contact is sure Sunderland are also tracking the player. He seems to think things are still at an early stage so unless Liverpool are well ahead of Sunderland in the negotiation process don't expect anything to happen quickly.

22 Jul 2013 22:01:16
Just to change the subject from the nonstop Suarez posts, I'd like to gauge opinion on Daniel Agger.

Whilst a lot on here are very quick to slate Johnson for his poor defending, no one ever seems to mention that Agger isn't great in the air and is prone to an error or two himself. I'll admit, technically he's a gifted player and perhaps that's why his inadequacies get overlooked.

Also, if we aspire to play Champions League, I doubt very much whether his body could handle the 2 games every week that is necessary.

So whilst I love his commitment, rate him as a player, I wouldn't be as gutted as some on here if he was sold. But only on the premise that the fee was decent and we signed a proven replacement.

Thoughts?

Raoul

For a centre half I think Agger is very weak, I believe the signing of Toure was vital and he'll show Agger AND sKyrtl up this season.

Got to agree with you. In the Champions League etc, what a player. But against Stoke, Everton, West Ham etc tends to struggle. Too many headed goals against him from set pieces last season. That's the EPL for ya.

You can't be happy or sad unless you know who is being brought in to replace him!if it was Bramble, I think you'd be pretty upset!

Nick

I agree with this 100%. I am by no means saying I WANT him to go, but like you said he is prone to some errors and is not irreplaceable. I think we ALL love Agger for a number of different reasons, but if a GOOD offer were to come in it should be considered.

I completely agree. This is why it is necessary to have a dominant CB alongside Agger to "go with the opposition number 9".

Agger is very good at reading the game and intercepting through balls and good at tackling and bringing out the ball from the back. He is susceptible from corners too.

But at the moment, he remains our best CB though I have high hopes for Wisdom, who I think could turn out to be one of the best CB in Europe.

The real AG

I kind of agree with this post although I think in open play he's as good as any centre back in the league. Where he does fall down is set pieces. He has cost is numerous goals just by not concentrating and losing his man at set pieces. If he tightens that up I'll have no complaints with him.
Skillo

So he's weak and not the best in the air. Strong men don't win matches technically gifted players do, look at Barcelona. Agger is technically great and he's been our best centre half for some seasons now. Pointless critique.

I would honestly consider Wisdom for CB on a regular basis, give him a chance and I think although young, will shine like an absolute star for us! He's ready!

Lol our best defender for the past 4 seasons is now not that good and prone to headed goals - how stupid are you all? Here's the skinny: no team never concedes goals (although Bayern had a pretty good stab at that record last season), we've conceded goals for a number of reasons. Agger may have been caught out once or twice but that happens to every defender - to say he is weak in the air and that we should consider bids for him is so moronic is makes me have flashes of rage. Thank god none of you have any say in how the club is run. Consider offers for Agger? LOL awful suggestion, would put the club back seasons selling our best, most technically gifted centre back - who would be replace him with!? And if you say Papa just crawl under a rock

22 Jul 2013 21:45:42
club website just gone down wonder if there's transfer news coming up? {Ed052's Note - Probably}

Serious? Just stupid pics of fellas in track suits

Phew it's gone back up again. Another false alarm!

No its not

22 Jul 2013 21:16:37
hi eds can you aswear a question am not sure of! does ian ayre have to be back in Liverpool till we can sign someone or can anyone else do this cheers {Ed052's Note - No, we can sign players, and will sign players anywhere}

Or sell them indeed!
The Juicer

N22 Jul 2013 20:36:30
is there any new news on Luis Suarez yet is he staying?
gee man {Ed052's Note - Nothing and no}

Always positive then eh ed! Lol {Ed052's Note - It is positive new that}

22 Jul 2013 20:14:45
I have it on good authority that Liverpool have contacted the representatives of Scottish born Irish international James McCarthy, however Wigan are playing hard ball over the fee and clubs such as Tottenham, Everton and Fulham are also sniffing around. Have you heard this ed? Also if Suarez were to leave which is looking likely who in your opinion should be Liverpools top 3 targets to replace him? Damiao? Higuain? Soldado?

JohnO {Ed052's Note - We had interest ages ago. Not anymore, he is overpriced and not kicked on. None of those three are reasonable. I want Bernard or Turan}

22 Jul 2013 19:55:56
Liverpool to go for Ben Afra and we give Newcastle 8 million and assaidi.

YNWA
EST. 1892

If true, idk how I would feel about it that. It would be a nice pickup, but what we don't we need is another person getting hurt all the time.

NDred

22 Jul 2013 19:53:16
All gone a bit quiet at Liverpool. Are we done unless Suarez goes eds? {Ed052's Note - No. Its only been about a week since we last signed a player. If we signed a player a week, we'd have signed 10 in the window, way too many}

22 Jul 2013 19:39:40
Oh Apparently we've made a bid for Bernard tonight.

GuvTOB

Hope your right if Suarez stays imagine Bernard Coutinho Suarez with Sturridge in front!

That would be frightening, the pace and trickery!

GuvTOB

23 Jul 2013 09:23:40
Just seen it myself its on a twitter page, so proberbly fake .the shirt look a bit iffy can't see the v neck white stripe .have to wait and see

22 Jul 2013 19:29:04
I think the fact that there's been no news from LFC about Suarez suggests to me that the conversations have been bad news, seems like all that they're waiting on is a reasonable offer. If he wanted to stay they would have been crowing very loudly about it by now, for me I can't wait to get rid, far too much trouble, good player yes but NOT irreplaceable and the sooner this is settled and our squad is ready to go the better.

Proper talks yet to take place with LS and BR/LFC, although unlikely that LS has changes his mind from what he told BR at the end of last season. Wants CL. Wants to move abroad. Real Madrid will likely bid next week, but seeing as it will likely be a pittance i'm hopeful it will trigger PSG or Monaco to bid £50m and we get rid. If he's staying, he needs to announce it pdq, but i'd be amazed.

22 Jul 2013 18:56:26
L.pool have made an offer of 21m for christian eriksen. ste the red

No we have not, he won't cost that much either more like £14M!

Only if they're throwing in Alderweireld for free. :-)

SpudRed

If that's 21m euros he could be right £18m seems to the magic number

22 Jul 2013 18:44:37
Come on Arsenal get real and stop posturing, you're never going to stump up the kind of money Suarez will cost. Hope Higuain transfer gets sorted asap so Madrid can put together their Suarez bid.

22 Jul 2013 18:00:02
hi eds, the fans on here who want us to sell assidi, and coates and even borini make me laugh, these players have not had the game time for any fan to make their minds up, to see coates play to his top level is by watching the copa america when uragauy won it, the lad was making his debut and he won the young player of the competiton beating the likes of neymar, every time I see assaidi play I've like what I've seen, and with borini he has been injured plus having the like of suarez and sturridge ahead of you then its going to tough for him as he is only young, let's be fans and support all the players who have not had a chance to shine a game here and there does not give us the whole picture

mickey b

It is not about having game time. They are not needed in the team. We have far better players in their position, so why keep paying salaries to players they won't have a playing time?

Because neither Borini, Assaidi, or Coates are on high wages

22 Jul 2013 17:29:01
Eds keep this simple - Soldado? Truth or BS? {Ed052's Note - Ed002 has given the answer}

22 Jul 2013 18:23:29
Soldado won't happen. Its just to get spurs to up their bid.

Ynwa

22 Jul 2013 18:19:39
Not saying it is true or not but I am sure porto done a similar thing when selling martinez and moutinho to monaco. So they didn't have to have to pay a sell in fee.

Jagerrocket85

Similar to what

They didn't sell Martinez to Monaco?

22 Jul 2013 18:08:37
Just watching the 2007/08 on sky Rooney kissing the united badge at anfield! And can any one not for get david Bentley scored a few that season then went to spurs for£15m I think wow, goes to show u, it's not just us that's not spent great over the years! Can any one think of other clubs and players that spent! Chelsea had a few, united, remember a player think it was Denison think he went for big money! Can any one think a top 5 worst buys and top 5 cheap gems over last 9/10 years
Ynwa lfc linc

22 Jul 2013 17:23:27
"Disney, Utd fan slating Lucas - Lucas would be yere best midfielder if ye had him so it's funny you slating him, get me?

Sean Ireland"

Michael Carrick is the closest player to Lucas in terms of position and is a far better player than Lucas. Get me?

Disney!

Sean Ireland, don't rise to this disney muppet just do what I do when scrolling the LIVERPOOL pages and that is see his name and simply move on . He's that full of himself he'll have to respond to this cause his " MACHO " reputation will be hurt! Ahhh Bless Walt Disney the keyboard King!

Obviously Disney as never watched Carrick play.

Oh silly me I thought his name was carsick he's that awful a player lol
Stuart

Looks like disney is living in a fairytale land.

Carrick is certainly a great English player. that's it tho.

The Irish Rover

Disney is a land of make belief. go and pretend to be Knowledgeable about foot ball on your own page, Pinocchio. In the Utd land of Fairies and lost little boys.

Quite simply, disney has never set foot inside old trafford and watched carrick play! No where near lucas' standard, simple as that! Go and have a look at the united page, they all talk about how soft the united midfield is then come here and sing their praises! Height of hypocrisy!

Ian the red

How are Carrick and Lucas similar? Lucas is a tough tackling ball wnner and carrick is a midfield passer. Very different type of player. More accurate comparison would be Lucas and fletcher

Nevada

Neither are the best of what they do in the prem!

I'm lfc through and through, but I'd rather have carrick. He does everything Lucas can do And more with his height an build.

22 jul 2013 17:23:53
eds fellow reds . not lfc related but hiddink for barca job then

I seen that on tv. first thing that came to mind was the Barca Job {Ed052's Note - No, Rubi is what I've heard}

Has the psg post been taken yet could be that maybe

mayhem 1981 {Ed002's Note - Blanc has the PSG job. Rubi was spoken to about the Barcelona job before the announcement on Friday. Obviously Ed052 is the expert on him and it now looks like you won't see him in the role. He had very strong support from a couple of ex-players.}

Who's rubi {Ed052's Note - A coach who won't be getting the Barca job, by the sounds of it.}

If your right about this Rubi guy I just checked the betting and he is 39/1 is it worth a few euros {Ed052's Note - NO, IM NOT RIGHT, so please don't bet. I would advise not to bet on what we say, even if we are sure, because we won't be held liable is it doesn't happen}

22 Jul 2013 17:13:51
Hi Eds, is it possible that Suarez started this transfer saga to get a higher weekly wage. Since he signed a contract extension last season, the only way would be for LFC to offer a new contract however by stating he wants to leave, I'm sure he knew LFC will try keep him at the club and have new discussions with his demands? Could that also be the reason Reina's wage bill had to be offloaded so Suarez can get an increase?

Redman 4Life {Ed052's Note - No, he started the sage to move}

22 Jul 2013 16:29:33
Good move for Coady, hoping he will get some decent game time with Sheffield. Good physical team them, a good chance to get some first team football under his belt in a very combative and competitive league.

Anfield Andy

22 Jul 2013 16:22:50
hard to believe just one rumour today. This website was brilliant 2 years ago its mixed the sensible with the ridiculous but it was a lot of fun and a great build up to the new season and deadline day.

Why not just put "Use the search function" in big bold letters and leave us all to it. Big shame its turned out like this {Ed052's Note - Theres a search function so we don't answer the same questions, whats wrong with that?}

22 Jul 2013 16:40:24
{Ed033's Note - New article by poster, Red Rum available to read, entitled, Comparison between Liverpool FC and their Rivals' Current Squads

Good read ed

Roccket {Ed052's Note - Its Red Rum you need to thank}

22 Jul 2013 15:57:17
We need to replace downing allen borini johnson with top quality players they aren't really good enough {Ed052's Note - I agree with Johnson there}

I personally feel the club will have a gem of a squad when we have finally removed the following players from our squad and replaced them with better quality : Brad Jones, Coates, Spearing, Assaidi, Pacheco, Downing and possibly Skrtel.
All cannot be removed this window but I hope all these are gone by next season.

True but u need to remember just because downing and skrtle don't fit in to system very well we still need a strong squad yes sell skrtle and downing IF we can sign better players for the starting 11 but I'd keep them right now as aspas will be downings replacement on the right and unless we sign a top CB I'd keep skrtle to

Johnson is class. I can forgive him a few bad games now and then. So many people are quick to write players off for one or two mistakes. Bizarre. He'll be one of the best FBs in the league this season. Yet again. {Ed052's Note - Johnson is terrible}

Ed are you being sarcastic about Johnson?, because I think he's one of the best attack minded right backs in the league. {Ed052's Note - No, he really is, well, rubbish}

Johnson is lazy, disinterested, prone to error and lacks the brains to improve these things. So many times last season he made runs into the opposition half only to give the ball away. Almost every run he makes ends up with the opposition getting the ball back. Very very frustrating to watch.

Johnson is sh. e till he pulls on an England shirt. then cld be 1 of the best right backs in England

As I have posted previously - the MAIN function of a full back is the
ability to defend. Glen fails this test

Puzzled

I agree with one of the posters I'm a Johnson fan. Despite the odd bad game.

22 Jul 2013 18:28:44
Dont Mess with ED052. he is in bad mood today. {Ed052's Note - Nope, just tired, but i'm not moody at all, despite the lack of sleep. I've been giving flowery uplifting replies all day, and have been kind in my opinion of Johnson}

Think a lot of people won't realise how good glen is till he's gone would love kelly to prove me wrong but don't think he has the legs for bombing down the line more a future cb i'd say just my opinion

mayhem 1981

Glen is an awful defender, truly awful. But if he were willing to move forward into a midfield position would be a much better player. His attributes are speed, crossing, willingness to get forward and willingness to shoot.

His bad points are, lackof concentration, poor positional awareness, and terrible marking.

This all points to wide midifeld if you ask me.

Nevada

There is no way Johnson is terrible. He may not be great either though. He does somethings well and some inconsistently but he pretty much epitomises a modern FB.

He's an attacking fullback and good at attacking, but not defending at all! He loses concentration and just seems disinterested 90% of the time. Hopefully this is the last season he is in the starting 11. Getting a young, powerful cb should be our priority this year and next year hopefully find a rb replacement. Don't want too much change.

NDred

22 Jul 2013 15:45:37
Hello Eds,
a question to Ed052
any idea why Joao Texeira wasn't taken on the tour when the likes of Spearing and Assaidi who have no future at LFC have travelled.
Is he with the U-21's?
I really rate the lad and it would have been nice to give him a chance to challenge Coutinho for the AM role especially with Suso on loan. {Ed052's Note - The reason Spearing and Assaidi went is for exactly the reason you say - so that teams can have a look at them, and know that they will be ready to play when they sign them. I was disappointed that more youngsters didn't go on the tour, but we have so many now, that we just forget who is actually a youngster. At United, Cleverly is seen as a youngster, and he's what, 23 or 24. We have Hendo, who is only 22, Ibe, 17 ffs, we sometimes forget actually how young our players are. Texeira is very highly rated by the club though, and is available for loan.}

Good to hear that Ed.
I thought maybe the club didn't rate him that highly. I reckon he is another one that can really come leaps and bounds given the chance at AM. That is why I hope the club rather buys a LW than an AM. {Ed052's Note - He needs to go on a loan move]

Nacho, Sama, Smith, Yesil and Pelosi would all benefit from a loan as well, especially Yesil from whom i'm expecting big things. Morgan could use a loan again too.

22 Jul 2013 15:41:19
Hi can someone update my on Sturridges injury please

Sully {Ed052's Note - The club has said he probably won't play any of the friendlies, but should be back for Stoke}

Just on that ed, if a player gets injured while on International duty and misses league games etc does the FA pay any compensation to the club? {Ed052's Note - It will depend what type of injury, if they've had it previously and how bad it is}

I read the Celtic friendly game is his target for a run out.
But that was 2 weeks back and as we know things change quickly.

{Ed019's Note - Hello everybody, I would just like to inform you that I have renewed the LFC Rumours fantasy league from last season on http://www.fantasy.premierleague.com, so everyone who was in it last year is now in it again.

If you haven't joined it yet the code is 7640-85781

Thanks!}

22 Jul 2013 15:18:17
I see our 38th bid of the summer was made for Eriksen today! Wonder will he sign this time!

Sure it's not our 380th?

22 Jul 2013 15:13:31
Please remember people! Liverpool have a budget to follow this summer, and we are looking to spend our money responsibly, unlike other years before.

This is being shown with our first four summer signings, have some what corresponded with the players going out, resulting us to break even with players like carroll, shelvey, generating cash.

We are being sensible with our money and this is shown with pepe on his way out, on a loan deal, freeing up 100k on wages, BR today was quoted saying we are in for a LB, as this position is lacking the quality, in back-up. I don't have an inside of our transfers, but I've heard of a possible move for Aly cissokho, on a loan with an option to buy, at the end of the season, thus not spending any money this summer, and it gives him the pressure to show his talents, getting the most out of the player. This is Good idea in my opinion, we don't want players who are happy to sit on their huge wage bill.

The attacking option BR wants, for me, looks to be Ben Arfa, at the price of under 10m, could be a great signing, I know he has his Problem with injuries but our medical team is one of the best and can get the best out of him, but I think he is the 2nd option behind Erikson, but we are having trouble generating the money, and are put off with him talking himself up to other clubs.

This is my opinion of what will happen, if it does, I'd be happy, and if one of our defenders go out (Coates), expect Illori to come in, with the cash.

Great site Eds! I read up everyday
Come On You Reds!

22 Jul 2013 15:09:47
Bowed with compulsory purchase option. This is how he will leave Liverpool target Aly Cissokho with an operation that seems on track as pointed Esportiva Taula Radio Nou. A footballer, Aly Cissokho, who leaves with more pain than glory without profitable the nearly seven million it cost to Valencia last season from Olympique Lyon.

In this triad is Cissokho, who has not caught a good season and go away to Liverpool on loan for a million euros with a purchase obligation that would be around between 3 and 5 million euros. With an agreement in principle between the parties, it appears that the last hurdle is the form of payment and paperwork, which could accelerate in the coming days for the french defense Valencia to leave as soon as possible and put under the command of Brendan Rodgers soon.


Sorry for copy paste, but this is what Deporte Valenciano is reporting.
Cheers

Thats an awful translation. It's terrible that someone got paid for that.

22 Jul 2013 15:08:05
After arriving in Australia, Luis Suarez has been told he is staying at the football club unless a 'very appealing offer' is received. The owners, in particular, have put their foot down and see no feasible reason to let the Uruguayan go for anything less than Fernando Torres' £50m. Due to the amount of negative media attention Suarez has catalysed during his time in Liverpool, they know that this would be a potential bargaining chip for potential suitors. Therefore, rather than let Suarez go for less than £50m, we are to keep him and give him a chance to redeem himself on the pitch to increase his market value. Once his profile improves, which they believe it will, they may consider a sale and in turn, improve the team's chances of qualifying for the Champions League 2014/15. They see Suarez as an investment and the 'shares' right now aren't worth taking out of the market, their asset has yet to reach its full potential on the field and off it. Subsequently, over the course of the next few days, Liverpool are to offer him an improved contract, matching Steven Gerrard's wages, and therefore higher the £40m release clause that allows the player to talk to clubs directly to £50m, due to the player's improvement last season on the pitch and enabling the club to go for a 'world class' price tag.

Hope this makes things clearer for people out there.

MintyRed

Except that's just guesswork, so not really clearer. Not in real life. Not really.

If it is true smart move. Seems like everyone wins. Just a question of how will the fans and team react to Suarez when he returns. Thanks for the post!

Pablosoccer31

22 Jul 2013 15:04:48
Ed, can you please tell me Arsenal are not going to sign Bernard and we are instead. The kid is class and will only get better. He's an exiting talent that we really should be going for whatever the cost.

Jonny Spandex {Ed052's Note - Nope, I cannot tell you that}

Not another one we have lost? oh no. we need a squad of seventy players all on 100k a week just to keep some happy

Pure class costs money Evolution and this kid has it. If we need to shell out an extra few quid then we should do it as it will pay dividends. Anyway, what makes you think he will be on a 100k a week anyway and why the sarcastic dig?

Jonny Spandex.

22 Jul 2013 14:59:39
If Madrid are not going to bid for Suarez then BR will have an easier time convincing the player to stay one more season.

my expectation is suarez stays, coates and Assaidi will leave.
Positions to strengthen;

Left back : Cissokho (loan + to sign after the end of the season is the only linked player)

Attacking midfielder - I don't know any name other than Eriksen unless we buy a left winger and push countinhio to the centre.

central defender - Alderwield or Ilori

Right attacking player - if Reina is sold or if Lazio come for Borini according to the recent rumours then I can see us making a bid for Ben afar.

22 Jul 2013 14:34:09
I think u lot are ignoring how good sterling is. If this guy was playing for spurs or arsenal we'd be banging on about how good he is. I ain't seen 1 post on here talking him up! I know we need a couple more top quality players which would put sterling on the bench but seeing him last year when he wasn't tired. And watching him now in pre season, we have an amazing player in our hands and he seems to have improved his goal scoring to. A front 4 of sterling LF coutinho CAM Suarez RF sturridge CF it'll be pretty deadly! I'd much prefer Bernard on the LF role but these top players aren't interested in us! I'd give him a go because he is already better than downing and borini an he's 18! Have some faith in our team guys our starting 11 is as good as anybody's in the league apart from maybe city!

22 Jul 2013 14:52:28
Ibe seems better too, it looks really promising

Was thinking and talking about this with my brothers in work today one thing that was mentioned though was its a pity sterling isn't the same stature as say a bale but nevertheless will be very good as for ibe he seems to be still growing and looks like he could have everything if nurtured the right way

mayhem 1981

22 Jul 2013 14:14:11
Afternoon eds.

Just wondered if you could confirm the Bernard to Arsenal rumour? Reports are saying he's going for a medical on Friday?

Do Liverpool still hold an interest in him?

Cheers,
Mr T {Ed052's Note - I don't believe we have interst in him now, strong enough for us to bid, we have more of a watching brief. I've read the French article, and it seems sown up, theyre even reporting the contract details. It seems odd however that the medical is waiting until Friday, a bit of a wait. However, I have no confirmation}

Medical is waiting till friday because he is playing in the copa libertadores on wednesday! Would have been great to have him team up alongside coutinho as I think it would be similar to the partnership he has created with ronaldinho at atletico minero.

Thanks Neel

22 Jul 2013 13:50:35
I think the biggest weakness of our team is that we are extremely vulnerable to crosses and set pieces. How many times last season did we had our hearts in our mouth when a cross was whipped in? I really hope that we address this situation as soon as possible. Even though agger and toure are good players they are not dominant in the air. We need some one in the vidic, hyypia mould who would really attack the ball when in the air. And apparently Mignolet is also susceptible to crossing. If we are to have a good season and finish in the top 4 we certainly need to work on this area. I am sure Brendan and his staff have identified and are working hard to solve this particular problem. Any opinion from the eds and fellow kopites would be appreciated.
cheers!
YNWA {Ed052's Note - I agree with all you say basically. Toure will help the situation a lot, if and when he plays. He is very good in the air, and strong. Aslo, that is one of Migs weak points, flapping, which you point out.}

Toure's stats may be skewed because of the limited games he played last year (~12) but I believe his aerial duel % wins is around 40 and most if not all CBs are pushing 60%. Skrtel for example has a 70% aerial duel win rate. Toures stats for interceptions and mins per tackle are better than Skrtel/Agger/Carraghers though.

I rate Toure highly, but I disagree with comment that he is strong in the air. I saw him lose a few headers against PNE as well.

Similarily, Mignolet's successful catches/punches are much higher as a percentage than Reina's over the last 3 seasons. His missed crosses are considerably lower as well.

ForzaRed

22 Jul 2013 13:44:45
Afternoon reds fans,

Souces have told me that suarez will stay! massive news for us all.

I know people are dissapointed that Pepe is going but I've been told that we want to free up the wages so we can sign our MARQUEE signing!

and I have who it is right here. Pappas Cisse. Don't be dissapointed if you where expecting a bigger name as we need champo league football lids.

BR wants suarez to play out wide in a front 3 with cisse up top and coutinho the other side. sounds good to me!

I'd rather leave Cisse off thanks. He was so quiet last season he couldn't hit a barn door. He also has notions that he's better than he actually is so I'd imagine he'd look for big wages, much bigger than he'd be worth

Haha! Papiss Cisse? Marquee signing! That is actually hilarious!

What about Sturridge

Wow, another striker from Newcastle who can't score.

Wheres sturrage playing

Hope we do, he isn't as bad as you think. that boy is class actually and its good he didn't fire last season else he wld too expensive now and everyone wld want him.
It wld a steal and great bit of business on our part to get him. Am not sure Ashley will allow it though

Prefer Sturridge to Cisse.

Cant see this happening!

Geordie fan here. You can have Cisse for £35m!

Why so your narrow minded person of a manager can buy aload of players from the one nation and cause a big division in the camp and end up avoiding relegation barely Newcastle are loosers haha 6 nil you musta felt like crying.we were scoring for fun.yous blew that cash like complete loosers

22 Jul 2013 13:32:56
I just want the whole Suarez thing to be resolved soon rather than just before the season starts proper.

I wouldn't mind getting an experienced striker (without massive cost) to come in for a couple of seasons until we are firmly entreched in the top 4.

With Harnik committing and Abdelloue joining Stuggart Ibisevic is one I think worth taking. Scored 15 goals last year and has a great Bundesliga scoring record and although nearly 29 has a few great years in front of him.

Or maybe a longshot Pazzini of AC? With Robinho and Mad Mario committing to club and El Sharaarawy all competing for spots not only with the club but for spots for the Azzurri for the World Cup as well his best bet would be to impress elsewhere (us)

And with Schelotto joining Inter surely Alvarez or Guarin are ripe for the picking but wouldn't be cheap (10-15 million) as attacking mids (both versatile)

Loved the noise in Indonesia but Wednesday night we will amp it up further in Melbourne!

REDS forever YNWA

22 Jul 2013 13:25:59
Canos has now signed and will be in U18 squad this year. Plays as AML/FL.

Still trying to sort a fee for Chirivella (MC). Will end up around £2m. Also a first year but likely to feature for U21 sooner than Canos if he signs.

Coady and Adorjan joining Mukendi, Suso, Ngoo and Hodzic on loan. Coady just 6 months. Reina loan still likely.

We may not try to sign another CB if BR thinks Kelly and Wisdom capable enough as cover, i.e. 1st choice: Johnson/Toure/Agger/Enrique, 2nd choice: Kelly/Wisdom/Skrtel/New LB.

Sterling will be in the squad all year - not going out on loan.

-Nibbits

I hope you're right about CB and I hope they both get a chance on tour to prove they can cover.

Sorry, Canos plays right not left.

-Nibbits

Wisdom won't be a first choice so makes far more sense to go on loan and play 35-40 games at a good standard. Johnson and Toure will need replacing in 2 yrs so that's how long he's got to build experience. I believe he has the attributes to be a starter for LFC in 1/2 yrs. Kelly too injury prone and Skrtel not mobile enough so we will buy at at least one CB before the window closes (possibly two).

22 Jul 2013 13:21:24
Ed 052- given Rodgers has said we are looking at signing a quality attacker and covering left back.

1) Who do you know that we are interested in?
2) Who would you personally like us to target?

Cheers
Jay {Ed052's Note - 1) For attacker, I am not sure at the minute. It was Mickey, but that has fallen through, obviously. For LB, Ed001 has mentioned a few we have scouted, and Aly Cissokho is possible too. 2) I would like Bernard and Cissokho}

Hello Ed,
a few reports (now also on LEquipe) that Arsenal have agreed a fee for Bernard. Any truth?
I really want the lad for LW position for LFC. {Ed052's Note - I know L'Equipe were reporting talks, but not a fee agreed. I will go and read the article now (the L'Equipe App is one of the best around for people who can speak French, I highly recommend it). I don't really think he is, and really was an option for us. Ask back in 10 minutes or so once I've read the article}

Wenger has rubbished reports about Arsenal and Bernard.

22 Jul 2013 13:13:42
Is it true that the Valencia president has come out and said ally cissokho will join Liverpool on loan with an option to buy?

22 Jul 2013 13:08:03
Have Lazio came up calling for Borini for 12 mil euros?
Will we sell him? {Ed052's Note - No (2nd)}

22 Jul 2013 13:05:36
I've mentioned him before, a while ago and there was no interest I believe but wouldn't Ninis be the type of player that BR could be looking at considering he'd be fairly cheap I would imagine.
I'd still like us to sign Turan though

Actually agree!. always been a big fan of Arda Turan! and he would play for the shirt!. should have bought him before he went to Athletico. going to cost a bit more now!

Danski {Ed052's Note - oooo yes, I'd have a bit of Turan at Anfield. Affordable, available, a Liverpool fan, but no interest}

Ed052, I've always admired Turan, and I didn't know he was a Liverpool fan? Why don't we take him?! He would be an amazing signing because he can play almost anywhere (CF CAM RW LW). Just a question for you: if you were in charge of Liverpools transfers, would you sign him?
Cheers {Ed052's Note - We just have no interest in him. Bernard probably, but Turan would be a great option}

22 Jul 2013 12:50:45
We want players who are 2 things.
1: Good enough to wear out shirt
2: Want to wear our shirt
Anyone that isn't or doesn't then they should find another club.

I second that!
If you don't know what an honour it is to wear the Liverpool Football Club shirt, the most successful team in the history of the English game, then you are not fit to wear it
Fans take note, Chelsea are always on the look out for fans (they have to give away free tickets on their tour)
SUPPORT your club, don't give in to the media trash

22 Jul 2013 12:41:32
Ed052 I know you said that Suarez will go the highest bidder(pretty much anyway) but surely they would have to take in consideration that arsenal will be a main competitor to 4th spot next season?! Does this affect things like price? Because it definitely should! And sorry about the Suarez question I know you lot are sick of it now. Thanks {Ed052's Note - They make take it into account, but at the end of the day, if their bid reaches what we want, the club want rid, so will probably just accept it, if there are no other offers. I'm not sick of Suarez questions, just the same ones. This is a questions which is phrased differently from normal, so I'm happy to answer}

Ed052, what's Suarez' favourite colour? {Ed052's Note - Probably whitey, grey, the colour of money ;). Or red, the colour of blood?}

22 Jul 2013 14:49:03
ED052, That was brutal, cruel. I haven't seen you insulting any player such this ever.
I hope he goes. can't see anymore slating here. Even If he want to stay, I would personally sell him. {Ed052's Note - Just a little joke, deary me.}

Thanks for the reply ed {Ed052's Note - You're most welcome}

22 Jul 2013 12:27:22
Eds surely Victor Moses is available at an affordable price? Why don't we go for him?

Cheers. {Ed052's Note - He isn't good enough}

Better than most the players we have.

So are we saying he is good enough for chelsea squad but not for ;Liverpools (reality check needed I think). I think he would walk straight in to your side down the right, you know where atsu's not going to be playing

dave {Ed052's Note - Chelsea are trying to get rid of him}

I think he's pretty useful TBH. I like his directness and he makes some good runs. I know what the Ed means though - he can fade into the background. I think it would depend on price.

Hes ten times the player downing is

22 Jul 2013 12:24:24
ed 52 is there any interest in ljajic. also I was hoping sterling would be loaned out this season but in seeing him in preseason I think he can have a major impact at anfield this season. is it too early to stick wisdom in at cb in the pl for Liverpool.

B O H {Ed052's Note - No interst in him. I think Wisdom is ready, but won't be first choice. There are no flaws, apart from limited experience, in his game}

If Ilori stays overpriced then I'd much prefer not to sign a CB for 4th choice, we have plenty. If Skrtel or Agger go, preferrably Skrtel, then 1 starting CB would be plenty

22 Jul 2013 12:01:43
I do wish some fans would stop moaning. We don't buy players, they moan, we buy players, they moan. we spend too little they moan, we spend too much they moan, moan, moan!
Just get behind your team! They need your support.
I wonder why the atmosphere at Anfield has died off. If you are depressed at things please stay away and let the real shouting supporter and fan show the true colours and support the team through thick and thin and bring back the electric atmosphere that is ANFIELD's 12th MAN.

The fans in Indonesia and Australia could show a few fans in the UK what being a fan of the best club in the world is all about
Though saying that I think the majority of moaners on here are Trolls from other clubs (Mancs and Bitters)

Great POST mate same as


Muggitzo

Maybe because some of us are older and have seen just how truly far our great club has fallen.

They have a right to moan and not just accept mediocrity like most of you daytrippers. The atmosphere at Anfield was very good last season but nothing really to get excited about under these owners.

FSG have done a good job but don't understand football, they are treating it like Baseball, buy young talent and sell on. They don't have the cash to make us compete, we need Anfield upgraded asap to bring in more income.

FSG I feel are nothing like the other 2 persons but they will never make us great again.

As a fan I will always support Lpool no matter what, but I have seen great Lpool teams and with a few experienced quality players we can be again.

Dont take all supporters as just moaning for the sake of it, Lpool FC is at an important junction in its life, one more wrong move and we will be a mediocre club desperate for CL place for the money and not for challenging for trophies.

I hate people who say we are not real fans because we complain about decisions. It's my my complaining and passion that makes me a true fan and want the utmost best for our great club. Not fans who say just get behind the team even when we are tenth. {Ed052's Note - You should get behind the team whoever plays for them, wherever they play, against whoever, winning, losing, drawing, playing like Stoke, or like Barca}

FSG have done a good job? FSG have done a GREAT job! They saved our club from possible extinction. They continually pump millions of pounds in every year to a club that is LOSING money.
FFS get real or would you prefer to end up the way Portsmouth, Leeds and various others have gone.

Some fans need a reality check.

MUSHROOM

22 Jul 2013 11:47:37
Not sure of the interest shown but chadli would have been a very good purchase also I can't see us getting soldado :( {Ed052's Note - Is that you, KiwiRed?}

Haha no. I don't put frowny faces after my posts.

Im not 12.

KiwiRed {Ed052's Note - :/ }

22 Jul 2013 11:43:32
Hi Eds & Reds,

I was just wondering could I have your opinion on a couple of things, given Pepe's impending loan move to Napoli anf that Carra's retired, who do you think will be made vice capatain(s)?
I think its between Toure, Agger & Lucas. Personally i'd like to see Lucas get it. Toure possesses the experience required and he's captained both Arsenal and citeh previously and his country. Agger also would be a good candidate and possesses the required characteristics.

Just in relation to Agger, would you agree that this season is pivotal in his Liverpool career, if he can mantain the same level of fitness and keep injury free, well will have a centre back in his prime, capable of going on for a number of years and finally get rid of the sicknote tag. Personally i'd start Toure and Agger.

Finally, we have an abundance of young talent coming through, do you think we could possibly do like Arsenal have done through the tears and use the League Cup to give the the likes of Ward, Ibe, Coady, Yesil, Robinson etc some valuable game time

Thanks in advance {Ed052's Note - It'll be Agger if he stays. I want it to be Lucas. we'll play youths when needed, and when we can. Coady is on loan, and I expect a lot of players to go on loan this year. Players who play well on loan this year will be first team next season, aor sold if they have poor moves}

Wow Lucas vice captain? We really have fallen. {Ed052's Note - The same Lucas, who, for years has been identified as a future Brazilian captain to lead the future, hardly falling is it?}

Lucas identified as a future Brazilian captain? You must be joking surely? He won't get near Brazil's first team in centre mid. Paulinho, Gustavo, both the Fernando's, Jucilei all ahead of him in the pecking order. {Ed052's Note - Lucas has played a lot of games for Brazil, and will once more, when fit. He will also be captain I have no doubts}

Oh and Jucilei. Come on Ed Lucas Leiva is an awful player. He just fouls people. His job is to do his best to not get sent off whilst fouling the opposition.

Disney! {Ed052's Note - Disney, the United fan, having a go at Liverpools midifielders. Bit rich, when United have the awful midfield they do}

Can`t believe people still doubt Lucas. He is a major part of our future never mind Brazil. He is getting better and better and a full pre season will do him the world of good. Your right Ed future Brazil and Liverpool Captain. How some so called supporters still give him stick is beyond me. Fantastic footballer with a fantastically strong mentality. A born leader for me.
ROYZERED

22 Jul 2013 13:27:03
Well he was Brazil's under-20 captain

Didn't he captain their U-23 side for years?

Walked into that one Disney! Charlie Adam would improve yere midfield

Ed 052, you are doubting Disney. How dare are you. Disney is unbiased when it comes to United and LFC.
Ask him, he will tell that Cleverly can be an world-class mid when we told he is average. For Disney, Anderson will be better than Lucas.
stg
ynwa
P.S Disney your knowledge of football is always welcome in our site.

Shows what most of you really are armchair supporters.

Lucas before serious injury was 1 of the first names on Brazil's team sheet. He is very highly reguarded in his country.

After Lucas was injured Lpool were run through by everyone and that's when we started leaking goals.

If you actually watched him play you would realise just how good he is, but you persons watch youtube clips and think every player should be scoring lots of goals and dribbling entire teams.

Walked into what? We won the league comfortably.

Can you imagine how good we will be with a better midfield?

Paulinho, Sandro, Fernandinho, Fernando x 2, Jucilei, Ramires & Gustavo are ALL better than Lucas Leiva.

Disney!

Armchair fan? I've had a season ticket for over twelve years and it's hard when we've gone from the likes of Didi, Mascherano, Alonso hell even Momo to Lucas and people rave on like he's a world beater. He's not, he's good but not that good. The players I've mentioned now they were good for us.

Armchair supporters? The ones that watch week in week out will be able to tell you Lucas is an average DM. He's no where near the likes of Sandro, Matuidi, Gonalons, Busquets etc. All who understand how to play defensive mid. Also bare in mind the previous DM's we had - Hamann, Mascherano, even Momo for a while! There's a huge drop in quality from the likes to Lucas. Fans get carried away because of how he turned things round from the 'boo days'. Credit to him for improving but he's still not good enough for DM. Put the sentiment to one side and compare him to the top DM's around Europe - long way behind.

Ha ha Disney!
Is the LFC pages better than the MU pages as well?

MUSHROOM

Disney, Utd fan slating Lucas - Lucas would be yere best midfielder if ye had him so it's funny you slating him, get me?

22 Jul 2013 11:35:19
When Sunderland signed Mignolet do you know what the first thing he asked for? Before a club house, car or the nightlife?

He asked the club if they could organise a placement at university for him and his girlfriend.

I imagine when we signed Carroll he was much more interested in the latter.

This is just another reason to like the Mignolet signing. Responsibility.

So are you saying a player who is less educated cannot be as good as on that is. {Ed052's Note - What the OP is saying is that Mignolet understands the simply, and important things in life, such as a good education}

Ugh - please don't mention Carroll. I'm trying to forget that fiasco.

Not saying he has more education just wants more nobody wants party boys

22 Jul 2013 10:59:47
Suarez has never said he wanted to leave Liverpool.

He has implied that he was open to leave but has never said he wanted to go.

Perhaps if you fools translated his interviews properly you would know that everything he has said has been twisted and manipulated to sell the idea that he has said he wants out.

He does want to go but he has never publicly said this. {Ed052's Note - He has said loads of times that he wants to leave, and that the team isn't good enough for him}

He's right with all due respect ed. {Ed052's Note - LS has said he wants to move. Or do you think him saying that the team is too rubbish for him shows he wants to stay maybe????}

Agree he has been totally mis read by people an you eds sorry. Of course he is open to a move to RM who wouldn't but that's as much as he has said.

The Liverpool team is rubbish. Most of the players signed apart from one or two are mid-table players who would not look out of place at west ham. {Ed052's Note - Are you a Liverpool fan, you sound more like our 'Sunderland/Everton/Liverpool Fan' we had earlier}

22 Jul 2013 11:49:43
Is there video evidence of this ed or is it just what papers have said he's said? Since when do we listen to the press regarding our club? i'm not saying he hasn't said it, just that I'll believe it when I see it {Ed052's Note - Not all the press is the same as the ***, and its a bit harsh to generalise. However, most papers, albeit one or two, carry disgusting stories, often, hack phones etc. But away from that, he has done it in press conferences, yep}

I agree, I have not seen a quote that you can defo say he wants to move.
If 'a club like RM come calling', yes but not 'I want to leave Liverpool'
'Liverpool know what I want' is the closest. He wants Champions League football, we have to convince him he can get it at Liverpool. Hey we have FIVE stars on our shirts
The British media are doing their dirty work again
What is their problem?

22 Jul 2013 12:13:22
ED052, Do you have a problem If he stays here? {Ed052's Note - Yes}

I tend to agree with ed52 and Ed001 on most things, but I tend to disagree with them on this - or at least on the degree with which he has stated his desire to leave. LS tends to wear his heart on his sleeve (one of the reasons that I like the lad - he might be a PR mans worst nightmare, but he seems to say what he feels!) and the press just eat it up, chew it up, and print whatever slant on it they want to. There are huge problems translating directly from Spanish to English (I know because I live in Spain), there is no direct translation for many things, and a lot of subtleties that can change stresses on meanings. Personally, I think if Madrid put in an acceptable offer he will go (I can't blame him for that, it's the pinnacle of any South American footballers career), but if Madrid don't put in an acceptable offer I think he will say. Again, just my opinion, I think that the reason he said that he was flattered by the interest in Arsenal, it is because he really felt like everyone hated him in England - to the extent that he got booed by his fellow professionals at the PFA awards (which I thought was a bit out of order). And because he felt like that is why he said he was flattered by the fact that another prem team still wanted him.
He said he was bothered by the fact that Liverpool wasn't in the CL, which again is just speaking his mind. He also loves the club and the fans - in most of his interviews he has given he usually says so, he also says he know he screwed up biting Ivanovich.

If he stays I will be delighted, I really will. If he leaves to RM, or Barca or even BM, I will wish him the best. I honestly don't think he would go to Arsenal or City or Man U, I know there have been talks with Arsenal, but his agent has to do something for his wages, but I will be very surprised if he does.
If he does go to another prem team, I will hold my hands up and say I was wrong about him, but I just don't think he will. I guess time will tell if I have to be force fed a big slice of humble pie, but I hope I am right. He is a great player, and we don't really need to be shipping out great players - simple as that. Obviously just my opinion, but I don't really understand the level of hate that our fans are giving him.

Nick

Wow, a lot of deluded, naive people on here today. It makes me laugh. I wouldn't credit their nonsense with a response personally. Keep on truckin' Ed.
DaveyLiver

Suarez is disrespectful, disloyal, and demented.

Couldn't give a bleep whether the press is biased or not. Can't wait to get rid of this guy.

22 Jul 2013 12:56:53
ED052. I love your for your Honesty. {Ed052's Note - N'aww, thank you}

I will laugh really hard if Suarez stays. Still if he doesn't we get plenty of cash to spend elsewhere. But only stupid people think that Suarez' leaving is such a good thing.

I may be stupid but you must be deluded if you think Suarez staying is better!

MUSHROOM

23 Jul 2013 09:59:05
Any coincidence that a whole heap of fans come on here to say that Suarez doesn't want to leave and has never said he wants to the day after a twitter rumour does the rounds that Suarez will sign a new contract?

Seriously guys, get off of twitter.

KiwiRed

22 Jul 2013 10:58:32
Ed. why don't we play Downing as LB. If he isn't going anywhere. he does a decent job as a defender. {Ed052's Note - He is OK as LWB, no LB}

Downing at left-back?

Now I understand why most on here can't take you seriously lol.

22 Jul 2013 10:19:36
If we do loose Suarez for say 50mil, would there be any chance of use going for Ces Fab for 30mil? He would make a great replacement. {Ed052's Note - no. Suarez won't go for that, and Fabregas doesn't want to leave, not even to United}

Ed! We can only go by what BR says! He says 55m plus! Echo reported it before hand. Why can't you just accept that! Suarez won't leave for anything les so he probably won't be leaving. {Ed052's Note - Well, my friend, I will believe what I am told, by people who never get anything wrong, who knows everything about everything, why can't you just accept that. Lets just wait and see, shall we}

Liverpool want circa £40m for Suarez. RM are trying to get him for £25m. I think £34m (€40m) will be accepted in the end. I know Arsenal have made one or two bids, but I think the amounts were lower than reported. I think the first offer was below the reported £30m.

Disney!

Eds

Do you think he will go to Real because if he goes to arsenal the Liverpool fans will be very angry. {Ed052's Note - Will they, n'aww, poor things. Its football, its a business, and we will sell to whoever pays most. Life goes on}

If fatboy Rooney is worth £30m and £200k a week, then Suarez should be out of Arsenal's league.
The Juicer

Sorry Juicer, you're wrong. Arsenal have buttloads of money to spend and they want to spend it for once. They would pay £40m for Suarez. We would likely accept that much (perhaps with add-ons) but don't think Suarez would be interested tbh as they're not a million miles ahead of us despite the CL this year.

22 Jul 2013 10:15:43
Don't understand why people are so pissed off about reina going.

Was it not obvious when mignolet came in that reina would be going.

It doesn't matter what Rodgers said in an interview he's hardly going to say we want reina gone is he.

Its not about reducing the wage bill, its having common sense. Why have someone sit on the bench costing you 120k a week.

LAVERS

22 Jul 2013 10:35:38
Yes Ofcourse.
But why this drama. diner. competition. places. 2 gk.
Nonsense. ist as worse as suarez opened his mouth in pulbic. {Ed052's Note - It isn't a drama, unless you turn it into one}

There is no drama, it was pretty obvious once LFC showed interest in Mignolet, Begovic, Al Habsi, Vorm and the AS Ajaccio keepr.

The real AG

Sunderland fan here. Sorry to give you bad news but Reina is a far better keeper than Mignolet. Mignolet does not come off his line and his distribution is awful whereas Reinas distribution is excellent. {Ed052's Note - Well, we have a new fandangled gadget that shows me that all you post is stuff saying Everton are best and I think we should sell Coates. So it seems you cannot decide wether to support Liverpool, or Everton, or Sunderland. And also, Mignolet does come off his line, and if you mean at corners, then that's a weakness, like Reina. And his distribution is no worse than Reina, especially long passing}

I am not that unhappy that Reina has gone- I am sure Mignolet will turn out to be a better all round keeper in the long run

Haha, rumbled by the ed.

Ha ha eds you should put cow symbol beside posters like this to show that they are full of bull. {Ed052's Note - haha!}

Owned by the ED! Now, go back to playing in your pram little boy.

The real AG

22 Jul 2013 09:54:55
Soldado as replacement for Suarez? Or is he Spurs bound? Jimbo

22 Jul 2013 10:08:57
he isn't coming to Liverpool. Spurs want him and are yet to reach an agreement over the price. 20 mill would do enought to lure him white heart lane.

22 Jul 2013 09:26:29
Hi Eds,

Any chance reports coming from Spain regarding Soldado to Liverpool are true? {Ed052's Note - Nah}

Over in Spain they like to link Liverpool with every player leaving! They thought Liverpool were signing Navas and we are also in the running for Higuian lol! {Ed052's Note - We did ask about Navas}

Ed052, Navas is my favourite player outside of Liverpool. I know it's history now, but can you tell me why we never signed him? Thanks {Ed052's Note - Cost. He was overpriced when we enquired}

Navas would have been a great addition to our RW very dangerous player

I think the spaniard is under priced when city got him. Less than £15m! He is a game changer. His pace and trickery can turn a match in his teams favour. His work rate is exceptional and he never seems to tire. A player like this is exactly what Liverpool need, and if they knew he was only £14.9m before city got him, I'd say he would be a great help when pushing for a top 4 spot. If we get a winger like him, or perhaps two, a RW and LW, I would consider us genuine title contenders.

22 Jul 2013 09:18:57
Hello Eds,
any truth in the Aly Cissokho rumours?

Judging by BR's interview we are looking at 3 more incomings : a LB, a CB (4th choice) and an attacker.

Also fellow kopites,
I am really sorry I have been on a rant on this site for a few days now but guess it will still take a couple more windows to get BR the entire squad he wants. Just got to trust the scouting department completely. {Ed052's Note - I've just answered it bud :)}

22 Jul 2013 09:05:48
Morning Ed I think we are all realists to know, we have to get the wage bill down, my point as from yesterday, is Rogers is losing credibility and people won't believe a word he will say, it's embarrassing when one minute he's saying Pepe and Mignolet will compete with each other, when we all knew it wasn't going to happen and now he is going on about Suarez, its cheap and tacky and not the Liverpool way, Ayre and Rogers need to be up front and tell the Truth as supporters we deserve that at least! Not a running commentary on day to day basis but the Truth! and don't treat us like we are naive and stupid it's disrespectful and wrong, bless ya loads have a great day Liam

22 Jul 2013 10:10:55
the actual truth is he himself don't have a clue what's going on inside.
I don't think he would want to send reina on a loan, that's pure clubs decision.

Is this guy on another planet! Brendan is doing a great job. The press ask loaded questions. And when they asked about Pepe what was Brendan supposed to say? "No. I want him out. He's not committed anymore?" Brendan needed to offload a player on 100k a week so as he can now use the wages to improve the team. We all knew Pepe was on his way. Brendan merely protected the team by bringing in Mig - then ditching Pepe. We all knew it would happen, yes. But Brendan had to be diplomatic about it. Seriously dude!

They can't tell the truth as this will decrease prices for players. BR says - we will let Pepe go - Napoli would be in offering to only pay half his wage.
BR says - Suarez can go - Real will be in offering 22.3m

22 Jul 2013 11:01:49
Thats the point. You must be Diplomatic.
Which torres wasn"t untill the last day. and you all. everyone ripped him apart of handing a trasnfer request.
Who here apart from ED knows the actual truth of torres leaving?.

If a player says. I want to move. then he becomes a traitor.
If he keeps his mouth shut and move out, then we would think

Liam great post


Muggitzo

22 Jul 2013 08:47:43
I love this site but so many of the ones on here post utter rubbish, it is funny though. Here is some REAL info, the reason this great site was made for! Suarez to sign a new deal, with a get out clause if we don't reach top 4 this season, WHICH we will. One centre half, left back and winger, which I hope is Bernard! great work on this site.

Phew thanks for confirming we will get top four football. I can rest now.

22 Jul 2013 08:19:16
It was obvious of reinas departure. and the wages being saved.
Y not let's send downing and allen on loan to save more. both doesn't add anything. and I don't see where does allen fit if gerrard plays all 38 gmaes for us. downing is unique, no one would want him, but we could still save wages if we sent him on loan.
Lolsss. {Ed052's Note - Rotation? Injury? Lose of form? You cannot just have 3 midfielders mate, you need a few more}

22 Jul 2013 10:15:27
ED052, We should have sent Allen on loan and kept Suso with us, As I rate suso more than Allen any day. I am aware both play differnt positions.
But with Hendo and gerrard filling the proper CM position and Lucas sitting as the DM suso should have been given time to play alongside countinho.
both looks terriffic in skills and clever moment.
what happened to coady?. we should also promote texeria as he is the real star for me. {Ed052's Note - 'I am aware that both play different positions' so a) how can you compare them, b) loaning a CM would leave us should in the CM position, because we've kept a CAM. Suso going on loan is great news, and the club should be congratulated on getting him such a good move, like Ngoo and Mukendi}

22 Jul 2013 05:58:58
After BR saying that we are in for a LB, Is there genuine interest in Cissokho? If not, then who do you think we might be looking at?thank you eds
El Capitano {Ed052's Note - I don't know of interest in him, but he has interest in us, after some glowing comments. But, I'm not sure yet, but if we did enquire after Bertrand, it would indeed show we want an LB.}

22 Jul 2013 07:44:42
People are saying look what we did after Christmas with Coutinho and Sturridge contributing well so we must be able to do that we'll from the start this season. Well I hate to be the one to break it but our main competition have improved vastly already ie man city and spurs whilst we haven't so we are being left behind

We haven't improved? Strange

If spurs lose bale thought that will make a huge difference.

We showed we can live without suarez for a few games and if we manage to keep him as well then we wouldn't be in a bad position.

And hey city made a great start to pre season right.

22 Jul 2013 08:36:55
Man city. our competition.
Not in another 10 years.

Man City have made two great signings! Jovetic and Navas. Negredo and Fernandinho are not going to get a game. I would go as far to say Fernandinho is the stupidest signing since Andy Carroll in the premier league! They have also lost Tevez too! There manager is first class though!

Spurs have signed a great player in Paulinho but he going to a side who were already great in that area. Sandro and Dembele are probably the best deep midfield partnership in the league so the signing of Paulinho is a strange one. However Spurs are crying out for a striker! Levy will never pay the money to buy a quality one and until he does Spurs won't challenge for the league!

If no more signings are made I think the league stands like:
1. Man City
2. Chelsea
3. Man United
4. Spurs
5. Liverpool
6. Arsenal {Ed052's Note - Fernandinho is a good signing. It is Negredo, who I don't rate, which I don't understand.}

Are real competition thisseason is. Spurs who havebought 1 player. And really need a striker and arsenal whohave bought no one.

Ynwa {Ed052's Note -

Who have spurs signed?

Look deep inside and feel the Force. Don't look to dark side.

How do you know there signings will improve there team. They may flop. Glass half full and all that. Be Happy.

Then why don't you go support one of them as you clearly don't want to support LFC?

MUSHROOM

1. Man city are not our main competition this season. Spurs, Arsenal and Everton are.
2. Spurs have not improved vastly, and are not certain to have Bale at the start of the season.
3. We have improved since Couthino and Sturridge arrived, and are still improving.

If you are that fed up of your team, and that impressed with others, do us all a favour. DaveDee

Navas and Negredo didn't do that much for Seville's performance last year. City will need to move out some more players to avoid dressing room issues.

Ed052, how do you not rate negredo? He scored 25 goals in la Liga last year, for a team that isn't great {Ed052's Note - I know mate, its just that when I see him, he doesn't impress me. Poor touch, leggy etc}

Negredo reminds me of a Spanish Darren Bent. Scores goals, on the fringes of the national side yet never really seems to be a world-beater.

sama491

22 Jul 2013 07:27:45
Rodgers was asked for the latest on Pepe Reina.

"Nothing as of yet, " he said.

"The latest was that there was an offer to take him on loan but that's something that hasn't been discussed any further."

Do you think that means he won't be loaned?

22 Jul 2013 08:05:14
Dont Believe him either and don't jump into any coclusions.
He would be going and to napoli

Why not wait for a definitive solution? Why do fans think they need a minute by minute explanation from the club over every little thing that's going on. Just relax for goodness sake, chill out!

Reina will be at Napoli this season. Discussions are taking place to see if a permanent deal can be sorted instead of a loan. If not, a loan it will be. Reina still wants to go to Barca but realises that won't happen now until possibly next season.
Rodgers is happy for either a loan deal or permanent as it would A) get Reina's £110,000 a week wage off the bill and B) help Reina's chances of going to the world cup as he needs to be playing. He is not guaranteed first team football if he stays with us.

MUSHROOM

22 Jul 2013 10:23:59
Mushroom.
Br never wanted to rid Reina, It was the Board decision to Save the wages, Infact, BR was pretty much Honest in his first Comement of having 2 gk.

I strongly suspect BR only knew the coming of Asaps and Mingolet. Toure and alberto were never his choice.

22 Jul 2013 11:03:27
@the captain - oh, if only it were so. Would be nice if the current instant gratification FIFA twit age would just give the club a minute to work out its business.

SpudRed

Utter tripe from Harry Scousser. BR fully knew the situation regarding Reina and the other mentioned.

The real AG

Harry, sorry man but I'd suspect you're wrong on everything you've said here. Rodgers picks the players, not 100% himself but he still picks them. He would have told the staff I want a new GK to replace Reina and they'd have done their scout reports, etc and reported them back to him, group discussion I would suspect, etc. Then Rodgers would go my number 1, 2, 3 for GK is so and so and see if deals could be negotiated at fair prices starting at the number 1 target.

Toure ticks all the boxes for replacing Carragher and Alberto is a promising player who has done well in the Segunda league and can add to our squad.

Harry Scousser,
BR knows all the movements within the club regarding players. BR rubber stamps all transfers in and out. If you think Alberto and Toure were signed without him agreeing to it, then you have no grasp on reality.
As for Reina going, I'm sure BR meant what he said. Once Reina had expressed his desire for first team football though, which BR could not guarantee, and the fact that we would save approx £4m in wages then what other option is there?

MUSHROOM

22 Jul 2013 05:35:57
Hi Eds and fellow reds, suarez said he is 100% staying, this season at least, heard it from the man himself. make of it what you will. Apparently, this is on the condition Liverpool make a new contract involving suarezs' champions league ambitions. obviously if we don't make it this season he will be allowed to leave.

Also, if you have time, would anyone be able to explain to me why Liverpool are missing out on players like Gomez and David Villa? I know we don't have champions league but surely Liverpool would be of greater attraction than Fiontenia and Alteti. Just puzzles me.

22 Jul 2013 08:08:46
Coz, We ain't looking for an out and out CF or striker.
BR sees sturridge as the Main man.,
we need another suarez. name a few and we will certainly look into it.

Simple answer - to most " marquee " players out there the PL is no attraction compared to the 3 bigger leagues in Europe.

Not sure on Gomez but Villa didn't want to leave Spain pal.

Enjoy the match down there if you got a ticket lad.

Alfie

3 bigger leagues than the EPL? Name me the 6-7 big teams battling for UCL in each of these leagues. It's about greed and guaranteed glory for most players, hence they go the big teams in the "3 bigger leagues" knowing there will only be one or two other top teams to compete against for glory.

RedLu

There are only 3 leagues in Europe that has 4 qualification places for the CL, England, Germany and Spain.

So I don't know where you get '3 bigger leagues' from.

The Premier League is by far the richest

Richest yes - but not by any means the best, established world stars very rarely come to the EPL'
Skill, class, fitness and enjoyment to watch:
La Liga
Bindesliga
Serie A.

Take the time to watch them on a regular basis - you'll understand.

The worst United side in 20 years won the PL last year at a canter - WHY?

22 Jul 2013 01:56:45
Good Morning Ed's
Was looking at past posts by other fans, and was wondering if the Suarez situation is not resoloved within the next couple of weeks. He may and probably will move on, therefore my question to you is do you think we will have enough time to recruit a suitable replacement. Or do you believe this is the reason in which Aspas was brought in as early as possible?

Thanks Eds
Cardiff Red {Ed001's Note - we will not be looking for a direct replacement as such anyway, you don't replace a player like Suarez as there is no one else like him. There is plenty of time to recruit someone else, the scouting would have already been done over the course of the season.}

22 Jul 2013 00:18:43
Ed BR said that he has added to the squad and is now looking to improve the first team.
Now BR is saying this assuming Suarez stays. My question Ed is, assuming Suarez leaves do you think even more money will be spent to improve the squad to replace the goals he's scored? Cheers.
ROI. {Ed001's Note - I am sorry but that makes no sense. More money than what? More than has already been spent? Because that was always going to happen anyway.}

21 Jul 2013 23:39:19
Why on earth would we give suarez a new contract that allows him to leave? He is cottacted for another 3 years an ant go without us accepting an offer

Make sense please

It means one season of 110% rather than 3 seasons of not trying

Probably to do with his agent seeking legal action over the "40m pound release clause" it probably just clarifies that and gives him more money to make him happier. Going far out on a limb here but maybe that's why Reina is leaving, to give Suarez a little more money to keep him happy?

22 Jul 2013 08:11:28
jesus christ, why don't people understand, If it was higher money, he would never go to Arsneal.
he is on 120k. You honestly believe Arsneal would double that?
they are better than us in maintaining Wages.
wwnger won't pay randsom to anyone.

Saurez would never be accused of not trying, once the lad crosses the white line he is fully committed to whatever team he is playing for.
Can someone explain to me what 110% is - I may be a bit ignorant, but to give everything is to give it 100%, isn't it?

22 Jul 2013 08:55:28
John B.
sometimes 100 % isn't enough to get the desired results. its just your effort. 150% means you always have 2 solutions for every given probelm. Litreally means. 9/10 times you win the game.