Liverpool Banter Archive February 22 2011

 

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22 Feb 2011 23:36:33
This is an article i took off EOTK, which i hope you like and understand, what makes our club more special, than any other club on the planet.

By John Doherty

A big hello to all my fellow L.F.C. fans. Here is a little story to warm your hearts about the great people at our great club.

I was in my local pub in Southampton (I moved there from Liverpool 21 years ago) having a pint or two when the landlord came down to do his shift. I was all prepared for our usual banter about his dislike for Liverpool (he strangly thinks Saints are much better) when he came out with "full respect to Kenny and Liverpool football club". I thought "here we go" thinking here comes the dig. He then went on to tell me a story of a local who is a nice lad who just found out he had a very aggressive form of cancer and he has less than 2 months to live. His mum phoned up L.F.C. and explained to the lad on the phone how he was a massive Liverpool fan and had never been to Anfield and his one wish was to see his beloved club once before he died. The lad on the other end of the line listened to her story which was just to get some autographs of his favourite players. The lad said to her "can I call you back in 20 minuets please?" 10 minuets later her phone rang and the voice on the other end said in a Scottish accent "Hello this is Kenny Dalglish here can I speak to your son please. Kenny had taken the time straight away as soon as he heard the news to call her back. He spent the next hour talking to him laughing and joking listening and sharing stories with him. This would have been the best day of his life until King Kenny invited him to Anfield where the lad was given the full works, he was introduced to the players before the game and then with his family was sent up to the directors box where a great big spread was put on for them. At the end he was given half the shop to take away with him. This was the best day ever he said and while telling his story you could see what it meant to him by his eyes welling up and his voice breaking. That should have been it but Kenny then found out that the pub had set up a collection for the ward that is looking after him and the hospice. Kenny gave £250,000 to it out of his own pocket! We all know that this is a subject very close to Kenny's heart with the sad loss of family members to cancer

So I hear you cry what's the point of this story.

My point is the lad at the other end of the line could have just said sorry we don't do that which I know a lot of clubs do, he could not have cared. The ethos of Liverpool is no-one is bigger than the club. Liverpool is a family and we care for one another when you join this family. Through out the club everyone is respected and loved. No club understands how important fans are more than L.F.C. as there would be no club with out the fans. The actions by everyone at the club in this instance show what Liverpool think of our great supporters. Now Laurel and Hardy have gone and the old guard are back we are getting back to what made this club so respected and admired throughout the world.

This my friends is why Liverpool will be back on top sooner rather than later.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ps. Sorry for pasting.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 23:35:47
Ok can I get this straight ed, do we click believable if we believe the person who wrote the comment or if we agree with your comment on that comment?
Olly

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 23:29:36
It is quite clear that Charlie Adam is the EPL centre mid of the season. The stats down lie, he is immense in most games. He is a must buy in the summer a must buy.

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I agree, i always feel that if his name was Charlenio Adamessi and he was Brazilion, he would be one of the most saught after players around and held in a much higher regard, hope Kenny gets him!

MR EM

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 23:21:26
Look lads, torres is a quality player, if he was here you would all say hes class, he has had a slow start for chavski but he will be great for them, he showed signs of it tonite, so grow up lads he is still a class act, not my favourite playr nymore by any stretch of the imagination, but you lot sound like kids sayin hes 5HIT. .


on another subject, claudemir looked good tonight, wat u lot think?
u agree with my post ed? {ed's note - I just wish people would stop talking about Torres, am bored to tears of it now.}#


this is what im sayin ed, all i ever read on here is ppl mouthin off bout him saying hes useless, when really he is a good player. they need 2 kop on and move on.

what u think of claudemir nyway ed? {ed's note - didn't watch that match, I watched Lyon v Real Madrid.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 23:17:31
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.

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yeh i saw him too! absolutely fantastic! a must. what are your opinions on him ed? could we get him in the summer?

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 23:17:33
I really think adam would be a great addition as he would add so much diversity and a left foot! he would either be an aquilani or a alonso-style signing but i think probably the latter. he could flourish under daglish and i really think that this is the best time to sign him.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 23:10:33
Look lads, torres is a quality player, if he was here you would all say hes class, he has had a slow start for chavski but he will be great for them, he showed signs of it tonite, so grow up lads he is still a class act, not my favourite playr nymore by any stretch of the imagination, but you lot sound like kids sayin hes 5HIT. .


on another subject, claudemir looked good tonight, wat u lot think?
u agree with my post ed? {ed's note - I just wish people would stop talking about Torres, am bored to tears of it now.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:57:18
It is quite clear that Charlie Adam is the EPL centre mid of the season. The stats down lie, he is immense in most games. He is a must buy in the summer a must buy. No doubt Utd, Spurs and even Chelsea and City will have a look at him but I am sure Kenny will get him. Could cost £12m mind but money well spent, he has simply grown into a solid leader on the pitch something we lack as Stevie's groin is about as reliable as a Sky HD box.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:53:59
22 Feb 2011 20:26:47
RE: Scott Parker showed his level when he failed miserably to make any impact at Chelsea. He is simply not good enough for a decent side, I will never understand the hype regarding him

I always thought Scott Parker was too loyal through out his career He could have moved to bigger clubs than Charlton and West-ham West Ham's Carlton Cole praises Hammers captain Scott Parker for his "inspirational" half time speech . . said Parker's passion spurred them on to fight back. . . Obviously he was not in the starting line-up today but came on and led us to getting the draw. . . West Brom 3-3

Wouldn't you want a mentally strong player at the club {ed's note - how was he loyal? He jumped to Chelsea for the money, then couldn't hack it so left for West Ham.}

Via a two year stopover in Newcastle. {ed's note - I had forgotten about that one. Yes a really loyal player that one.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:48:18
We could use sktrel in the deal for kajear what you think ed? {ed's note - why would we want Kjaer? He is not good enough.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:32:48
All true pool supporters please stand up agree with me, we were hurt by torres though seems gud business, we need turan, lavezzi and lb only cos aurelio injury prone, i remember the days when we were barred from europe i reckon we could have 7 european cups by now barnes, beardsley, houghton aldridge whelan mcmahon rush johnstone, i have give my heart to liverpool and the new owners will back us, by the way if u not read dalglish book yet read it, i hate reading but enthralled read it in 3 days-he shares my passion

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:32:55
22 Feb 2011 21:55:00
Ed I have heard a lot of roumers that andy Carroll is fit enough to make the squad for west ham any truth in this

Misfired thnx ed {ed's note - he is fit to run, but he is nowhere near match ready yet.}

Thanks ed so when do u think he will be ready late march ?

Thanks {ed's note - early March for sub appearances, mid-March before he will be fit to start I would think.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:07:20
Some posters are constantly putting forward the argument that the Lucas critics are wrong just because KK and Dunga think he is good enough. I'm afraid this argument doesn't really hold water. KK tried to buy a replacement for Lucas at his first opportunity and Dunga believes Brazil should play with a defensive midfielder (mainly because that was his own position) and I'll think you may struggle to find too many Brazilian defensive midfielders. Therefore both managers are playing him more through necessity than desire. I agree that if he continues to improve he may get there but at the moment he isn't near good enough if we want to move forwards
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No kenny was looking to build a squad. You know like redknapp, wenger and mourinho do. You can't just have one central midfielder. And remember Charlie Adam has one problem. .he doesn't helP out defensively so they could both play seeing stevie g gets injured quite often. As for dunga that argument doesn't hold at all. .denilson, melo,
Anderson and even michel Bastos can play mdf. Do you Agree ed? {ed's note - it is a ridiculous argument, clearly Lucas is highly rated, clearly he is playing well, that should be the end of it.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:10:03
Spurs lost :P we get closer and closer to top 4 :) (I doubt we'll get there however)
By the way ed what happens if you come 5th because there's lines outlining 5th spot? ? {ed's note - Europa League qualification, the other 2 places go to the two cup winners in England.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:13:23
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.
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We sold him to Napoli cause he wasnt good enough but I have a feeling you already knew that.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:19:02
I have had 2 agree and 6 disagree about the fact ngog and pacheco are not good enough 4 us, ngog seems happy to be third striker, had many chances to impress-failed, pacheco is a striker that will only do the same as torres make his name and demand move, well done kk freeze him out.put him on a transfer for recognised player such as lavezzi, or litmannen type

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:20:22
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.

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Actually can't tell if this is a joke or not?

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:21:06
Some posters are constantly putting forward the argument that the Lucas critics are wrong just because KK and Dunga think he is good enough. I'm afraid this argument doesn't really hold water. KK tried to buy a replacement for Lucas at his first opportunity and Dunga believes Brazil should play with a defensive midfielder (mainly because that was his own position) and I'll think you may struggle to find too many Brazilian defensive midfielders. Therefore both managers are playing him more through necessity than desire. I agree that if he continues to improve he may get there but at the moment he isn't near good enough if we want to move forwards

Who did KK try to buy to replace Lucas? Adam? It's hardly a replacement for Lucas! Adam doesn't know the meaning of defending & how do you know it was a replacement for Lucas & not to play on the left in place of Maxi?

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 21:56:06
22 Feb 2011 21:40:20
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.

Is this a joke?

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:01:22
I am staggered by the people who don't seem to see the irony of there quotes about Lucas! He has been our best player for the last 18 months (which for the record I totally disagree with) he has improved and become a very good player etc etc etc! We have been awful for the last 18 months so for people to say he has been our best player from a bad bunch is hardly a ringing endorsment of his ability as a footballer! Everybody is entitled to an opinion but if people are happy with Lucas in our midfield week in week out then they are easily pleased, and please don't respond to this email with opta stats about pass completion percentages and all that carp. Lucas gives little protection to the back 4, he actually increases the pressure on the defence with the amount of needless free kicks he concedes in and around the box, his distribution and link up play is average, his fist touch is poor and on the few occasions he has played in a more advanced role he has done little to convince me that there is a player there. I am not a boo boy at the match and never will be and while he plays for us I would get behind the lad at the game but I just felt I had to comment on the players ability after reading some of the posts about him over the last few weeks. Feel free to disagree but that's my opinion.

Waro

i think lucas has done well you can't knock the lad he has never hidden in any game i have seen him play at liverpool he has had a baptism of fire since being involved in the first team. and one thing you can see is when the lad doesn't play well he gives 100%. i for one have grew to warm to him and long my his progress continue for the stick he has taken in the past and still had a go for us. lesser players without a winning mentality would have moved to another club. but as long as he wears the liverpool shirt as youve said waro just back the lad.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:03:29
Ed, with tottenham losing tonight and chelsea facing united, this has to be surely a chance to LFC to state their mark now in search of that 4th spot.ed? {ed's note - we have to just keep getting results and we can still sneak 4th.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 22:03:34
How about Benoit tremoulinos to sort out are left back problem

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 21:49:09
Great news for fans everywhere torres never scored again and spurs twa. ed at blackpool, bring on the hammers don't slip up lads

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 21:41:53
Come on the blackpoool

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 21:23:10
Benzema just netted again for Madrid

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 21:28:55
Whoever came up with the saying. . ." A player doesn't become s***e overnight " is so wrong. . . . . turn over to SKY SPORTS 2 and you will see one! ! Fernando Toserr! lol. He looks even worse in HD! ! lol

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 21:29:58
Some posters are constantly putting forward the argument that the Lucas critics are wrong just because KK and Dunga think he is good enough. I'm afraid this argument doesn't really hold water. KK tried to buy a replacement for Lucas at his first opportunity and Dunga believes Brazil should play with a defensive midfielder (mainly because that was his own position) and I'll think you may struggle to find too many Brazilian defensive midfielders. Therefore both managers are playing him more through necessity than desire. I agree that if he continues to improve he may get there but at the moment he isn't near good enough if we want to move forwards

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 21:40:20
Just seen this guy called andreas dossena (i think, might be Sergia) play, looked class playing for napoli, he could definetly sort out our left back problems. hes an italian international too.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 20:58:40
22 Feb 2011 19:33:13
The fact that I disagree with the first poster's assessment of Lucas isn't important. .but it seems that both Kenny and the coach of Brazil think Lucas is much better player than you think sums it up for me: your analysis of Lucas' ability shows you don't know much. And to the guy who agrees with you and prefers Parker? What can I say?

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Agreed, Opta stats show Lucas is the 2nd best tackler in the league at the moment

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 20:56:26
I really really want alonso back :(

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 20:48:08
Question, has john terry dyed his hair? he looks a right t***

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 20:46:31
22 Feb 2011 20:28:40
Liverpool have scouts at the Copenhagen match to watch Oscar wendt who only has six months left on his contract.
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No there not. .they are watching another mediocre player by the name of Fernando Torres i think!


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KK has replied to a letter from Roman Abromovic stating that a 30 day money back guarantee is not available on faulty good sold during the january transfer window

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{Editor's Note: The Liverpool scout in Copenhagen is watching Claudemir.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 20:26:47
RE: Scott Parker showed his level when he failed miserably to make any impact at Chelsea. He is simply not good enough for a decent side, I will never understand the hype regarding him

I always thought Scott Parker was too loyal through out his career He could have moved to bigger clubs than Charlton and West-ham West Ham's Carlton Cole praises Hammers captain Scott Parker for his "inspirational" half time speech . . said Parker's passion spurred them on to fight back. . . Obviously he was not in the starting line-up today but came on and led us to getting the draw. . . West Brom 3-3

Wouldn't you want a mentally strong player at the club {ed's note - how was he loyal? He jumped to Chelsea for the money, then couldn't hack it so left for West Ham.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 20:34:09
Andy Carroll

What Game will he start?

Also will someone cut his pony tall off.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 20:15:50
RE: Football & Finances.

Didnt Chelsea just hide their 800million debit in a Ltd company and why couldn't the man city owners sponsor their own team for £100million from a dummy company they set up or buy a smaller company that they pump full of £100million. So that company can buy shirt sponsorship for stupid amount. Who will stop them sneaking in more funds into the business. {ed's note - you can't sponsor a team for huge sums, there are limits to the amount you are allowed to receive in sponsorship deals.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 20:03:14
Ed, what do you think of oscar wendt? I'm going to watch him tonight, see if he's any good.

Stu. {ed's note - I watched him a couple of times and he was very poor earlier in the season. But he does have signs of ability being there.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 20:00:44
RE: Gerrard. The Whirlwind.

Have you ever seen him turn into a whirlwind on the pitch. He will start chasing anything., but that leaves roles in the midfield. Hence him playing in AM role with little responsibility in the midfield.

Only problem is Gerrard's work rate. He has slowed down since 2006. This season he has stood in the roll and let teams mark him out of the game. Alonso was making him look good for many years

Rafa thought he was the best attacking minded player. That could pick up a team and get them going, but not so defensive minded. A Reason why he played RW, AC and not Centre.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 19:49:08
{ed's note - Scott Parker showed his level when he failed miserably to make any impact at Chelsea. He is simply not good enough for a decent side, I will never understand the hype regarding him.}

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He showed that at international level a week ago when he was our best player and was only on the pitch 45 mins, as for him at chelsea, wasn't it a case that his face didn't fit as there were players such as Lampard and big tackle etc etc first on the team sheet, even then he was young player of the year! {ed's note - I have watched him thousands of times, since he was the lad in the MacDonalds ad, he is not good enough in my opinion. Playing well for dross like England, Charlton and West Ham does not make him a good player. They suit his all-action no-brains style to the ground, that is not the way we play.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 19:51:36
RE: Giggs Yoga

Has anyone bought a copy. Giggs has played at a top level due to Yoga. Has anyone thought about getting the DVD and finding out his secrete.

Or if anyone has bought a copy. What do you think? was it any good?

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 19:39:07
Dalglish is smart and not prepared to play gerrard in forward role no more, come on he is getting on leave him where he can influence attacking and defending

You're saying that Stevie G is getting on a bit and then want to saddle him with a more intense workload of attacking AND defending? C'mon let's try and give the guy a break and preserve the remainder of his career.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 19:33:02
King kenny and Andy Carroll (aka the bad guy from highlander :) spotted together at the Boyzone gig in Liverpool. It's a good sign if Carroll is bouncing around to the music!.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 19:33:13
The fact that I disagree with the first poster's assessment of Lucas isn't important. .but it seems that both Kenny and the coach of Brazil think Lucas is much better player than you think sums it up for me: your analysis of Lucas' ability shows you don't know much. And to the guy who agrees with you and prefers Parker? What can I say?

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LOL Scott Parker is one of the best central mids in the premier league without a doubt, your opinion is yours and its your entitlement, but to compair Lucas to Parkers ability. What can i say?
I do think Lucas has come on leaps and bounds but he is not the special midfielder to fill Alonso's departure. I watch alot of the Premiership football and I also am entitled to an opinion and Scott Parker is by far a better midfield player than Lucas Leiva {ed's note - Scott Parker showed his level when he failed miserably to make any impact at Chelsea. He is simply not good enough for a decent side, I will never understand the hype regarding him.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 19:22:48
I am reading that kuyt will sign a new contract, i think that's a mistake, he getting old and we need to move forward.
ed? {ed's note - he is an excellent example to all the young kids in the squad and very good cover.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 18:51:38
"Feel free to disagree but that's my opinion.

Waro

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I totally agree with your statement!
I do feel we need a couple of players in the center mid, Number 1 choice for me is Scott Parker, i can't remember him having a bad game in the league, next to Gerrard and Raul advancing would be awesome. Then perhaps continue to bring Shelvey through! I like our current set up, if we get two quality wing backs, Scotty Parker and a quality winger or two to switch things up i will be very happy!

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The fact that I disagree with the first poster's assessment of Lucas isn't important. .but it seems that both Kenny and the coach of Brazil think Lucas is much better player than you think sums it up for me: your analysis of Lucas' ability shows you don't know much. And to the guy who agrees with you and prefers Parker? What can I say?

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 19:02:02
22 Feb 2011 18:20:03
I am staggered by the people who don't seem to see the irony of there quotes about Lucas! He has been our best player for the last 18 months (which for the record I totally disagree with) he has improved and become a very good player etc etc etc! We have been awful for the last 18 months so for people to say he has been our best player from a bad bunch is hardly a ringing endorsment of his ability as a footballer! Everybody is entitled to an opinion but if people are happy with Lucas in our midfield week in week out then they are easily pleased, and please don't respond to this email with opta stats about pass completion percentages and all that carp. Lucas gives little protection to the back 4, he actually increases the pressure on the defence with the amount of needless free kicks he concedes in and around the box, his distribution and link up play is average, his fist touch is poor and on the few occasions he has played in a more advanced role he has done little to convince me that there is a player there. I am not a boo boy at the match and never will be and while he plays for us I would get behind the lad at the game but I just felt I had to comment on the players ability after reading some of the posts about him over the last few weeks. Feel free to disagree but that's my opinion.

Waro

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I totally agree with your statement!
I do feel we need a couple of players in the center mid, Number 1 choice for me is Scott Parker, i can't remember him having a bad game in the league, next to Gerrard and Raul advancing would be awesome. Then perhaps continue to bring Shelvey through! I like our current set up, if we get two quality wing backs, Scotty Parker and a quality winger or two to switch things up i will be very happy!
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I absolutely agree with your assessment of Lucas. Improved he may be but let's face it he was so bad anything would be an improvement! I personally would like to see us go for Pjanic but even the overrated Adam would be an improvement

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 18:32:04
Not a rumour as such but ive just been watching connor wickham, why are so many people hyping him up. seriously he can't score most of the time he dosent even know what he is doing. plays similar to darrent bent [but bent scores] and palo wanchop [forget the spelling]. what u think ed. i think we have much better talent in our youths. gezza1982 {ed's note - he can be a bit hit and miss, but he is a decent player.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 18:41:13
Why do people on here keep mentioning Everton players like Baines and Rodwell as targets. It just won't happen. It is as likely as any of our players moving to United.
If by some miracle we were given the opportunity to buy anyone from Everton I would take Fellaini. Better than Rodwell will ever be and twice the player that Lucas is.
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You need your head tested mate if you think Fellaini is better than Rodwell!

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 18:20:03
I am staggered by the people who don't seem to see the irony of there quotes about Lucas! He has been our best player for the last 18 months (which for the record I totally disagree with) he has improved and become a very good player etc etc etc! We have been awful for the last 18 months so for people to say he has been our best player from a bad bunch is hardly a ringing endorsment of his ability as a footballer! Everybody is entitled to an opinion but if people are happy with Lucas in our midfield week in week out then they are easily pleased, and please don't respond to this email with opta stats about pass completion percentages and all that carp. Lucas gives little protection to the back 4, he actually increases the pressure on the defence with the amount of needless free kicks he concedes in and around the box, his distribution and link up play is average, his fist touch is poor and on the few occasions he has played in a more advanced role he has done little to convince me that there is a player there. I am not a boo boy at the match and never will be and while he plays for us I would get behind the lad at the game but I just felt I had to comment on the players ability after reading some of the posts about him over the last few weeks. Feel free to disagree but that's my opinion.

Waro

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I totally agree with your statement!
I do feel we need a couple of players in the center mid, Number 1 choice for me is Scott Parker, i can't remember him having a bad game in the league, next to Gerrard and Raul advancing would be awesome. Then perhaps continue to bring Shelvey through! I like our current set up, if we get two quality wing backs, Scotty Parker and a quality winger or two to switch things up i will be very happy!

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 18:09:09
22 Feb 2011 17:23:29
RE Transfers Liverpool are Sell to buy Club


Sorry I might be reading this wrong but. .every club is a sell to buy club. except Abramovic and City.Which will change next year. .the secret is to buy gold cheap, then sell chit expensive. .ie.Torres, Ronaldo, Barry plus most of citys first batch. I take my hat off to Chelsea for Luiz he is a top player.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:34:29
Why shudnt we go for fabio grosso a decent left back with tons of experience . .
Wats ur say ed? ?

{Editor's Note: He has to be well over 30 now.}

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ha ha that's gotta be a joke, tell u what mate we'll ring zeigler up an see if hes available

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:38:29
Defoe - like lots of players - does so much for charity and is a role model and utter legend (as well as a genius) and it's no wonder the lads like him

hes is renowned for being a complete t***** btw :)

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you're right mate cos complete h**mps usually come in 2s an hes regularly seen very close to rooney when in the england camp

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:30:59
The money for Carroll (Massive gamble) and Suarez (Bargain) came from the sale of the Crown Jewels.
Benzema? Young? Thats about £30 mill and doesn't address the crying need for a left back and two centre backs. And why would big names come if there's no Champions League?
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So you don't consider Suarez and Carroll to be big names? And none of Man City's players aren't big names?

Crown Jewel? Always in a mood, always injured and completely disinterested in playing for Liverpool!

Sorry i never read any more of your post the begining was bad enough! !

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:23:29
RE Transfers Liverpool are Sell to buy Club

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:25:02
Spending to rival City & Chelsea? Really?

The money for Carroll (Massive gamble) and Suarez (Bargain) came from the sale of the Crown Jewels.
Benzema? Young? Thats about £30 mill and doesn't address the crying need for a left back and two centre backs. And why would big names come if there's no Champions League?

And there won't be. Sure, we might catch Chelsea but they're not the problem. It's Spurs we need to catch. If Spurs win half their remaining 12 games we'll need to win 9 out of 11 to catch them.

I don't think we should hold out for much higher than 6th realistically. 5th is a massive push too. We don't necessarily NEED to finish higher this season, its been a massive transitional period but we're making massive progress. We have a great new set of owners who have, so far at least, shown they are willing to seriously back us. We have got a manager we believe in and has, so far, proven his worth by turning around an awful season to a season end where we are looking up at 5th and dreaming of 4th instead of fearing a bottom half finish. A new set of strikers with a great future at LFC ahead of them a cracking new attacking mid and loads of promising youth. Lets finish strong, look to strengthen the squad in the required areas of the summer and next season I think we can be confident of a top 4 finish if not a title push - there's no reason why not if Suarez and Carroll fulfil their promise, Merieles continues to improve along with others such as Kelly, Agger, Johnson, Lucas etc.

I have high hopes for next season but this season I'm going to remain realistic and be happy with 6th.

NorthWestBest
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We don't need any more CB's jeeeez (however we do need a LB)
we already have: -
Agger
Carragher
Skrtel
Kelly
Wilson
-All these are already excellent CB's and Agger is world class (kelly and wilson will be world class given sufficient game time)
Olly

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:16:08
Ed, do you think andy carrol can adapt to a LFC side that plays pass and move football and do YOU think he can become a great player mate?

{Editor's Note: He is a good player already - but he must resolve his off field issues. It would no doubt help him to have full backs who can throw crosses in from the half way line. Time will tell.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:16:30
Defoe - like lots of players - does so much for charity and is a role model and utter legend (as well as a genius) and it's no wonder the lads like him

hes is renowned for being a complete t***** btw :)

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:18:17
{ed's note - there are huge areas of a club that can be invested in that do not come under the FFP ruling, such as the youth academies. A club like Liverpool still has to find the money to pay for those things from within, clubs such as Chelsea and City can turn those over entirely to their sugar daddies to pay for. The club itself will only pay for what is within the FFP.}

Ed, re the FFP, Man City are sponsored by a company who are also owned by the same family. As FFP works on revenue brought in through sponsorship amoungst other things, what is to stop City's owners investing hundreds of millions through their other companies as sponsorship?

{Editor's Note: This is already addressed in the rules - go read them.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:18:48
There had been speculation the American owners may have sold a significant stake to pay off their controversial £220m PIK (payment in kind) loans.

How did teams like man utd seem to find money this money.

{Editor's Note: The PIKs were nothing to do with the club. Speculation is meaningless.}

Transfers: I really hate how teams decide not disclose transfer fee information. If a player is bought by a team.

Its time for a change in the barclay's premiership. Money and money out of a football intuition should be transparent. Its time the rules changed.

A team like Portsmouth spent and spent with back-door deals. Its time for every penny to be accounted for by the government. How can they tax a club that is so is.

{Editor's Note: This is already in hand for international transfers - within a couple of years all transfers will be transparent.}

I remember *************** set up a Off shore corporation in jersey. Arsenal would pay the wages into Jersey account. Its these little things that rob the tax man.

We have to pay our taxes. Clubs, Player and Agents find ways to hide money. I want to see transparency with fans money.

{Editor's Note: This is already being dealt with by the tax authorities.}

Also with this new Rule. You can only spend your revenue. It won't work. A team like Man City will just sell a Corporate box to the owner for £50million a year to increase revenue.

{Editor's Note: No, they cannot do that - you need to read the rules.}

Its time for the government to stop all of this. I heard Barclays Capital have a secrete floor 22. That no one is allowed to talk about. They help Barclays pay almost nothing in taxes, while they publish record profits. The Whole system has to change. Uk have to act because football will never get its house into order.

{Editor's Note: I am afraid I have been asked not to discuss our offices on the 22nd floor.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:19:34
Ed, does KK rate skrtl and soto, i feel these players are not good enough and are taking up our upcoming talents like wilson but AYALA, i feel this lad could become a very good defender?

{Editor's Note: They are part of the squad and if the best available he will need to play them. It is not simply a case of throwing the youngsters all in and expecting the results to come. Fortunately the manager knows this. It is a gradual process and it looks like Ayala is well on his way to becoming a first team player.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:20:14
Evening eds and everyone been a few weeks since last on, nothing to bring to the table this time just to say hi and hope your all well . Cheers psv .keep up the good work

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 17:14:07
Spending to rival City & Chelsea? Really?

The money for Carroll (Massive gamble) and Suarez (Bargain) came from the sale of the Crown Jewels.
Benzema? Young? Thats about £30 mill and doesn't address the crying need for a left back and two centre backs. And why would big names come if there's no Champions League?

And there won't be. Sure, we might catch Chelsea but they're not the problem. It's Spurs we need to catch. If Spurs win half their remaining 12 games we'll need to win 9 out of 11 to catch them.

I don't think we should hold out for much higher than 6th realistically. 5th is a massive push too. We don't necessarily NEED to finish higher this season, its been a massive transitional period but we're making massive progress. We have a great new set of owners who have, so far at least, shown they are willing to seriously back us. We have got a manager we believe in and has, so far, proven his worth by turning around an awful season to a season end where we are looking up at 5th and dreaming of 4th instead of fearing a bottom half finish. A new set of strikers with a great future at LFC ahead of them a cracking new attacking mid and loads of promising youth. Lets finish strong, look to strengthen the squad in the required areas of the summer and next season I think we can be confident of a top 4 finish if not a title push - there's no reason why not if Suarez and Carroll fulfil their promise, Merieles continues to improve along with others such as Kelly, Agger, Johnson, Lucas etc.

I have high hopes for next season but this season I'm going to remain realistic and be happy with 6th.

NorthWestBest

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 16:52:06
Spending to rival City & Chelsea? Really?

The money for Carroll (Massive gamble) and Suarez (Bargain) came from the sale of the Crown Jewels.
Benzema? Young? Thats about £30 mill and doesn't address the crying need for a left back and two centre backs. And why would big names come if there's no Champions League?

And there won't be. Sure, we might catch Chelsea but they're not the problem. It's Spurs we need to catch. If Spurs win half their remaining 12 games we'll need to win 9 out of 11 to catch them.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 16:54:46
{Editor's Note: Liverpool have declared no interest in the player - who will not be leaving this summer.}

Sorry Ed, you misinterpreted what I meant. I'm fully aware we won't get him but I thought I'd say that, for what its worth, I wouldn't say no.

NorthWestBest

{Editor's Note: I did not misinterpret your beautifully crafted comment - just providing a statement of where we are.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 16:48:06
I'm just loving the way supporters from other clubs come on the Liverpool rumours and banter pages because there's clearly no one else on their own! Listen its not our fault that our club is so greatly supported from all over the world and they're on here every day :D

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 16:42:58
Ed is it true that C sar Azpilicueta is joining in the summer? It says so on wikipedia which isn't a very good source but I was a bit shocked to see it. . {ed's note - anything mentioned using there as a source I am just going to ignore in future, it is pointless reading anything off there. I am pretty sure he has an ACL injury and is out for the season.}

I'd have him though given his form at Marseille prior to his injury and the hype around him from Vincente Del Bosque et al.

NorthWestBest

{Editor's Note: Liverpool have declared no interest in the player - who will not be leaving this summer.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 16:25:01
22 Feb 2011 16:03:40
Ed, an honest question, why can man u attract more top players than LFC mate? {ed's note - have you seen where they are in the league?}

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Because for the last 10 years your foreign managers have been obsessed with boring defensive tactics and buying second rate foreign squad players. Hence your team has gradually become weaker and weaker.

In Rafa we trust. . good one.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 16:13:18
22 Feb 2011 15:11:44
Why do people on here keep mentioning Everton players like Baines and Rodwell as targets. It just won't happen. It is as likely as any of our players moving to United.
If by some miracle we were given the opportunity to buy anyone from Everton I would take Fellaini. Better than Rodwell will ever be and twice the player that Lucas is.

Harry J


lucas has been without doubt are most impressive player over the season by far! wish this lad would get the credit he deserves

goose1977
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Boy LFC fans do support their players to the hilt! For everyone else it is as clear as daylight that Lucas cannot pass, tackle and lacks basic ball skills/ control and is way too slow on the ball. I will agree he is tireless and 'tries hard' but get real. Any fit player could do what he does (which is not much).

p.s. anyone else notice how many times he falls flat on his ass when changing direction? Like my St Bernard puppy running around. Seriously, watch him.

LFC's prob is too many avg unskillful players (Lucas/ Kuyt/ Carra/ Maxi). We need players with heart AND some skill too imo. Surely we need to buy at least two fast skillful wide players this summer. We have no-one who can beat a man.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 16:03:40
Ed, an honest question, why can man u attract more top players than LFC mate? {ed's note - have you seen where they are in the league?}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 15:34:42
I might be a bit cynical, but how anyone can name players as certainties to join in the summer is beyond me. Unless you work closely with Commolli and KK, there's no way to know any of the players they are considering. Even they must be thinking of other things at this moment. People were saying that Honda was certain to join and we all know how that worked out. I can understand how rumours leak near a deadline date, but at this point in time? Come on, man!

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 15:11:44
Why do people on here keep mentioning Everton players like Baines and Rodwell as targets. It just won't happen. It is as likely as any of our players moving to United.
If by some miracle we were given the opportunity to buy anyone from Everton I would take Fellaini. Better than Rodwell will ever be and twice the player that Lucas is.

Harry J


lucas has been without doubt are most impressive player over the season by far! ! wish this lad would get the credit he deserves

goose1977

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 15:06:39
Is it just me or does anyone else think maxi is just a waste of space? he runs around like a headless chicken and when he does get a chance to influence the game he makes a right pigs ear out of it. would rather see a youngster given a chance in front of him.

been saying this for long enough - like playing with ten men

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 15:00:23
@ed

I wasnt trying to cherry pick from the regulations. I just viewed those items omitted as likely to cause smaller adjustments to the overall totals compared to the items I listed and I only chose to use Man City because a previous poster commented them.

Ultimately, I believe that we have the potential to produce higher profits under the FPP rules than most EPL clubs and therefore the capability of investing more within the FPP rules framework.

Again, I migt be proved wrong, but the financial model at Man City without the capital injection of soft loans, does not appear sustainable. Inflated transfer fees and wages and (Andy Caroll aside) are not something we appear to be doing.

So once these capital injections are reduced, to a percentage of income or profit, how then do the Man City's and Chelsea's of the EPL compete financially?

You tell me to read the FPP rules and that I don't understand them, which is your perogative. Now Ive given my interpretation of what I believe to be correct. Please feel free to re-educate me and show me the error of my ways - lol {ed's note - there are huge areas of a club that can be invested in that do not come under the FFP ruling, such as the youth academies. A club like Liverpool still has to find the money to pay for those things from within, clubs such as Chelsea and City can turn those over entirely to their sugar daddies to pay for. The club itself will only pay for what is within the FFP.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 14:46:26
Why do people on here keep mentioning Everton players like Baines and Rodwell as targets. It just won't happen. It is as likely as any of our players moving to United.
If by some miracle we were given the opportunity to buy anyone from Everton I would take Fellaini. Better than Rodwell will ever be and twice the player that Lucas is.

Harry J

Thank f*ck you don't get to choose for us then, And I'm guessing you're a Lucas basher, And I'm also guessing you're one of those (thick) fans who call Mascherano, Monster Masch, Lucas is a very good player, And Mascherano was a thug in a Liverpool shirt.

Harry J(oke)

UCCM

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 14:46:54
I am staggered by the people who don't seem to see the irony of there quotes about Lucas! He has been our best player for the last 18 months (which for the record I totally disagree with) he has improved and become a very good player etc etc etc! We have been awful for the last 18 months so for people to say he has been our best player from a bad bunch is hardly a ringing endorsment of his ability as a footballer! Everybody is entitled to an opinion but if people are happy with Lucas in our midfield week in week out then they are easily pleased, and please don't respond to this email with opta stats about pass completion percentages and all that carp. Lucas gives little protection to the back 4, he actually increases the pressure on the defence with the amount of needless free kicks he concedes in and around the box, his distribution and link up play is average, his fist touch is poor and on the few occasions he has played in a more advanced role he has done little to convince me that there is a player there. I am not a boo boy at the match and never will be and while he plays for us I would get behind the lad at the game but I just felt I had to comment on the players ability after reading some of the posts about him over the last few weeks. Feel free to disagree but that's my opinion.

Waro

Couldn't agree more, he has developed hugley over the last 18 months but he's still not the type of DM that you would class a rock. I feel he's an ok squad member, but when masch and alonso were so good together I think any replacement is going to get stick. We need an enforcer to let stevie and meireles have the ball, someone like m'villa or dare I say it Cattermole. I like to see Rodwell in there myself
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I completely agree fellas that Lucas is not a good DM. If we played him in his natural position which is more of an attacking midfielder, you would see a far better player. But as we don't have any DM he gets played there, although I would play Gerrard there myself. Oh and I would use Lucas as a DM rather than Polsen any day of the week.

MUSHROOM

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 14:39:25
Is it just me or does anyone else think maxi is just a waste of space? he runs around like a headless chicken and when he does get a chance to influence the game he makes a right pigs ear out of it. would rather see a youngster given a chance in front of him.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 14:16:49
"Reports in Nigeria have claimed that some of Europe's top clubs including Liverpool and Tottenham have been following the progress of Marseille left back Taye Taiwo.


Most Recent Liverpool lead race to sign Nigerian Liverpool to make move for £8.4m Int Carroll edges nearer debut Liverpool not budging on £11m fee fo Spurs favourites for Liverpool fan Wi Liverpool apparently sent talent scout Damien Comilli to watch Taiwo in the recent friendly against Sierra Leone and view the player as a ready made fit for the problem left back position.

The Nigerian Tribune also claims that Tottenham have watched the player along with Real Madrid, Manchester City, Manchester United and Juventus, but their headline made it clear that it is Liverpool that are the clear front runners.

It would be strange for Tottenham to go after the player, they already appear to be set with left sided players, the same to a certain degree applies to Manchester United, the same however cannot be said about Manchester City, they will but almost anybody.

One thing is becoming clear, that Liverpool will be very active in the transfer window come the summer as they continue the rebuilding"

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 14:36:43
I've been reading some of the banter on this for a few months now and cannot believe some of the stuff people are saying.

First off, Lucas in my eyes is a bad player and not Liverpool quality. He offers nothing going forward and gives away too many stupid frees and loses the ball too easily. People may say oh he starts for Brazil and all, Brazil are not the best of teams now, and with France beating them recently that proves it! I think someone like Charlie Adam would fit in there but would be worried that we would get caught out with him, Gerard and Meireles going forward too much from the centre of midfield. A De Jong, Barton type of player is what we need but for me i'd love to see us go after Clint Dempsey, he has 10+ goals for Fulham this season.

Secondly, Kuyt has been a great servant to LFC and was lethal in 08-09 season but i think he's finished now. He's a top man and great idol for kids coming through but he also lacks the quality and pace to be a winger. If he is offered a new contract it should only be for another year. Cheap option would be Jarvis as a winger, or push Johnson to RW.

Lastly, our whole left side needs to be revamped. Maxi came with a big rep but hasn't lived up. Konchesky, Insua and to a degree Aurelio have to go.I can't see us signing Coentrao as i don't belive LFC would pay 20M+ for a foreign LB who has not proved himself (yet) in the EPL. Maybe for a short term solution Warnock would be a good buy.

Barry B

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 14:07:48
Ed in terms of youngsters we seem to have a conveyor belt of talent in the pipeline. Kelly has made the breakthrough, Shelvey has been given time by KK and Wilson is not too far behind. Spearing has also been picked (though IMO at best he will be a squad player). Next in line are Coady, Flannagan, Ince and Robinson who have the talent and physique to make a break though in the next 12-18 months. They are followed by Suso and Sterling who both have immense potential but need to physically develop for a couple of years before they will be ready. Let's not forget Pacheco too. Michael Ngoo and Mavinga also have a chance. A very healthy youth set up which thanks to Rafa is being run by Rodolfo and Pepe. Their record in youth development are second to none in the whole world. Reality Red

{Editor's Note: Yes a great bunch coming through. Sadly they will not all make it as first team players at Liverpool and the reality of it is that some will need to move on. But I am sure that they will all do well wherever they end up.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 13:29:17
{Editor's Note: It depends on a number of factors and what happens over the next few years. There is no way to know at this time what implications the rules will have on any clubs without an understanding of the future turnover and expenditure of the clubs. You really do need to read up on the rules.}
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2. Relevant income is equivalent to the sum of the following elements
a) Revenue - Gate receipts
b) Revenue - Sponsorship and advertising
c) Revenue - Broadcasting rights
d) Revenue - Commercial activities
e) Revenue - Other operating income
f) Profit on disposal of player registrations (or income from disposal of player registrations)

As far as I can guess, we should be financially better off in all of the above compared to Man City. The one area at the moment we might not compete is Champions League Revenue

{Editor's Note: I don’t really want to get too much in to this Liverpool vs Manchester City spending power argument – particularly when you are cherry picking extracts from the regulations without giving due consideration to the timing of events. As a simple point here though, Manchester City are working toward “other operating income” as a means of increasing the turnover of the business significantly. They have, or at least were, looking actively at utilizing the areas adjacent to the stadium for other commercial purposes that would be of significant financial benefit. They have also been looking at exploiting alternate media revenue streams, as have Arsenal notably. Liverpool will also look at such areas through Tom Werner. Manchester City will also be in a strong position in the short term to benefit from the disposal of player registrations.}.

There are other items listed, but I feel we should be at least equal to Man City on those.

3. Relevant expenses are equivalent to the sum of the following elements

a) Expenses - Cost of sales/ materials
b) Expenses - Employee benefits expenses

Given the income the club generates, player wages are going to take a large chunk of City's revenue and therfore ability to aquire new marquee signings

{Editor’s Note: You misunderstand what this means.}

c) Expenses - Other operating expenses

d) Amortisation/ impairment of player registrations and loss on disposal of player
registrations (or costs of acquiring player registrations)

This is the big one for Man City as they are paying inflated prices with little chance of re-couping profitable transfer fees on player aquisitions.

{Editor’s Note: Right, it benefits Manchester City now – but that may well only be short-term – and because you are cherry picking this information without, I suspect, understanding it, you have failed to mention that individual clubs can choose how best to handle the amortization – which is of benefit to Chelsea for one.}

e) Finance costs and dividends
Relevant expenses are increased if the elements a) to e) in paragraph 3 include
the item below (detailed in part C):
f) Expense transaction(s) with related party(ies) below fair value.

Relevant expenses are decreased if the elements a) to e) in paragraph 3 include
any items below (detailed in part C):
g) Expenditure on youth development activities
h) Expenditure on community development activities
i) Non-monetary debits/ charges
j) Finance costs directly attributable to the construction of tangible fixed assets
k) Expenses of non-football operations not related to the club

Dont get me wrong, Im not suggesting that we should spend more than Man City, just that if both clubs make the most of their income/ expense streams, we should be financially better off and therfore "able to outspend" Man City

Just as long as we spend it wisely though.

{Editor’s Note: Liverpool will be fine.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 13:40:24
Realistically I believe the top half of the table (Top 6) will finish as it stands at the moment.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 13:23:51
"The Madness of King Roy XXIX"

Interesting to read that Dirk Kuyt is looking at signing a new contract. I am a fan of him, but I wonder at 31+ if he has anything more to offer a team that is now looking predominantly towards youth? We already have Carragher and Gerrard over 30 for next season. What we need is legs. If he signs I will be delighted, but not down in the mouth if he moves on. A good club man and deserves respect for that.

I have been bashing the pundits for weeks now. I still make no apologies. But I was delighted to hear David Pleat back on the TV the other day. Football life would be poorer if it were not for his meandering, nonsensical, ill-informed and vacuous babbling!

I saw Fabio Aurelio near Lime Street last week and he was sensational. The way he just walked across the road was utterly amazing. I am in awe of players in our Premier League as they all seem to do so much for charity and are amazingly and sensationally brilliant at everything they do. I agree with Alan Hansen on this issue: the way Rooney adjusted the tie-cord on his shorts before the kickoff the other day was the work of a genius. As one of the lads, I was talking to the lads about some of the lads playing and the lads agreed with me that the lads are doing really brilliantly. In this matter I defer to people like the utterly sensational Jermain Defoe. When he was saying recently (and very quickly like a 14 year old talks!) that the lads are great and he was agreeing with the lads, well I thought that the lads I was talking to would be as impressed with his genius as the lads he plays with.

Defoe - like lots of players - does so much for charity and is a role model and utter legend (as well as a genius) and it's no wonder the lads like him. Even the Cockney Comedy Act, Harry Redknapp ("I don't even know 'ow to turn on a com'puter your judgeship!" - cue chuckle and Cockney shrug of the shoulders) thinks he is absolutely amazing and utterly sensational. The trouble for the rest of us lads is that we are not really the lads like the lads that the lads play with. As good old 'arry puts it, "the boy dun good and the boy is sensational." I agree with him! He is a genius and utterly sensational like all players who also do so much for charity and as role models for the lads, they are respected by the lads like us, who are lads and not! If you know what I mean?

Anyway, good to see the boy Moyesee in the frame for the Spurs job if Redknappy fails to convince the jury - " I don't even know 'ow to open a bank account!" - when he is up for tax evasion in the next few months and is forced to resign. Kenwrighty will be utterly gutted by the sensational news and even Nevilley the captain was brillianty behind the gaffer when he heards the news. At least our own Dalglishy won't be in that position and not one of our players like Gerrardy, Carraghery, Suarezy or Carrolly will behave like the lads do when the lads are with the lads and do something utterly sensationally brilliant and what lads do with lads and h**k things up!
I rest my case.

Steve 'arker
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Probably the greatest single post I've ever read on this website. It's loaded with fact, perception, tongue in cheek, reality and humour. If this website gave out Pulitzers, Steve would probably win one. The only negative I can find is that he didn't use the word "triffic" in the 4th paragraph. Nicely done lad. . .

Chi-Paul

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 13:20:38
Why do people on here keep mentioning Everton players like Baines and Rodwell as targets. It just won't happen. It is as likely as any of our players moving to United.
If by some miracle we were given the opportunity to buy anyone from Everton I would take Fellaini. Better than Rodwell will ever be and twice the player that Lucas is.

Harry J

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 13:19:10
To the tune of three steps to
heaven

now there's a new star on the mersey
suarez suarez suarez
just give him the ball and you will see
and when he scores a goal
the kop will explode with
suarez suarez suaarrez

he' going to be a legend at anfield
suarez suarez saurez
under the reign of king kenny
he wears no.7 our new no.7
suarez suarez suarez

give him the ball and you will see
he goes by defender's
easily
suarez, your name we'll sing forever
suarez suarez suaarrez

mick irish red

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 13:13:20
If anybody gets time today, why not go on youtube and watch Suarez saying good bye to Ajax and listen to the fans sing 'You'll never walk alone' it brought tears to my eyes, with all the bad press this guy has had, for fans to react like this at his departure? He can't be such a bad guy to have been loved this much!

MR EM

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 13:03:40
{Editor's Note: It depends on a number of factors and what happens over the next few years. There is no way to know at this time what implications the rules will have on any clubs without an understanding of the future turnover and expenditure of the clubs. You really do need to read up on the rules.}

Im sure football clubs and officials at this level will have thought this one through, to suggest that there is no way of knowing what implications these rules will have is a bit daft . Do clubs not plan and forecast future turnover and expenditure? im no expert but surely a debt free liverpool fc means no turnover wasted on repayments and quite possibly a more comfortable ride for us, more so than a club with considerable debt, ed?

TheRedEye

{Editor's Note: Er, no it is not as simple as you suggest. Liverpool being debt free obviously improves Liverpool's situation but does not mean Liverpool can outspend Manchester City - which is what the original post was discussing. Additionally, any interest payments made to cover existing debt are exempt from the rules. Please just go and read the rules.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 12:47:42
Steve parker - great post, no soz, AMAZING post m8!
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OK, if you don't mind EVERY other word being ''lads''!

*****

brilliant post Steve Parker. well done lad!

i think the 'lads' bit was done as a p*** take! !

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 12:46:43
My team with everyone fit:

Kelly Carragher Agger

Johnson Gerrard J Cole Miereles Aurellio

Suarez Carroll
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Have we sold Reina ?

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 12:39:56
I am staggered by the people who don't seem to see the irony of there quotes about Lucas! He has been our best player for the last 18 months (which for the record I totally disagree with) he has improved and become a very good player etc etc etc! We have been awful for the last 18 months so for people to say he has been our best player from a bad bunch is hardly a ringing endorsment of his ability as a footballer! Everybody is entitled to an opinion but if people are happy with Lucas in our midfield week in week out then they are easily pleased, and please don't respond to this email with opta stats about pass completion percentages and all that carp. Lucas gives little protection to the back 4, he actually increases the pressure on the defence with the amount of needless free kicks he concedes in and around the box, his distribution and link up play is average, his fist touch is poor and on the few occasions he has played in a more advanced role he has done little to convince me that there is a player there. I am not a boo boy at the match and never will be and while he plays for us I would get behind the lad at the game but I just felt I had to comment on the players ability after reading some of the posts about him over the last few weeks. Feel free to disagree but that's my opinion.

Waro

Couldn't agree more, he has developed hugley over the last 18 months but he's still not the type of DM that you would class a rock. I feel he's an ok squad member, but when masch and alonso were so good together I think any replacement is going to get stick. We need an enforcer to let stevie and meireles have the ball, someone like m'villa or dare I say it Cattermole. I like to see Rodwell in there myself

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 12:35:57
Djibril Cisse will be leaving greek football this season after a racist attack by fans. does anybody think we should bring him back if we can get him cheap and on cheap wages? he seems to have found his shooting boots over there.
mikey
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Are you kidding me?? Cisse?

NO THANK YOU

I thought it was our intention to win the league next season? ? Not with him we won't.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 12:36:34
Steve parker - great post, no soz, AMAZING post m8!
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OK, if you don't mind EVERY other word being ''lads''!

THink u missedthe point m8!
he was being sarky and v funny with it! !

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 12:31:58
22 Feb 2011 11:39:31
I am staggered by the people who don't seem to see the irony of there quotes about Lucas! He has been our best player for the last 18 months (which for the record I totally disagree with) he has improved and become a very good player etc etc etc! We have been awful for the last 18 months so for people to say he has been our best player from a bad bunch is hardly a ringing endorsment of his ability as a footballer! Everybody is entitled to an opinion but if people are happy with Lucas in our midfield week in week out then they are easily pleased, and please don't respond to this email with opta stats about pass completion percentages and all that carp. Lucas gives little protection to the back 4, he actually increases the pressure on the defence with the amount of needless free kicks he concedes in and around the box, his distribution and link up play is average, his fist touch is poor and on the few occasions he has played in a more advanced role he has done little to convince me that there is a player there. I am not a boo boy at the match and never will be and while he plays for us I would get behind the lad at the game but I just felt I had to comment on the players ability after reading some of the posts about him over the last few weeks. Feel free to disagree but that's my opinion.

Waro

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I have to agree Waro. As much as he has improved, I still am not convinced he is the one for that position in the team especially.
Javi Martinez or Lucas as defensive midfielder? Only one winner
Lucas has improved to the degree that he should be a full member of the squad and may be valuable in another position and cover, but agree too many times does he put pressure on the defence and gives away too many free kicks in dangerous areas as a defensive mid.
I repect the lad as he has 'stuck on in' and gives his all in most games (not Newcastle game) but he has to improve as a defensive mid to be the solution to that position and I am not sure if he has the physic to pull it off {ed's note - perhaps if the rest of the midfield, ie Gerrard and Meireles, weren't strolling back every time they lost possession he wouldn't end up giving away free kicks on the edge of the box because of a lack of cover.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 12:13:40
Steve parker - great post, no soz, AMAZING post m8!
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OK, if you don't mind EVERY other word being ''lads''!

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 12:22:40
Who will provide Andy Carroll with the crosses he needs for his heading ability ?

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 12:26:06
Why shudnt we go for fabio grosso a decent left back with tons of experience . .
Wats ur say ed? ?

{Editor's Note: He has to be well over 30 now.}
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Precisely Ed. He's 33 now.
Why in the world would we buy him??

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 11:59:59
{editor: Different ed. We will not be spending like Man City because we havent got that kind of money and we are not stupid.}

Actually, when the FPP rules come into play, we should be able to outspend them surely

{Editor's Note: It depends on a number of factors and what happens over the next few years. There is no way to know at this time what implications the rules will have on any clubs without an understanding of the future turnover and expenditure of the clubs. You really do need to read up on the rules.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 11:52:25
Steve parker - great post, no soz, AMAZING post m8!
LOL

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 11:39:31
I am staggered by the people who don't seem to see the irony of there quotes about Lucas! He has been our best player for the last 18 months (which for the record I totally disagree with) he has improved and become a very good player etc etc etc! We have been awful for the last 18 months so for people to say he has been our best player from a bad bunch is hardly a ringing endorsment of his ability as a footballer! Everybody is entitled to an opinion but if people are happy with Lucas in our midfield week in week out then they are easily pleased, and please don't respond to this email with opta stats about pass completion percentages and all that carp. Lucas gives little protection to the back 4, he actually increases the pressure on the defence with the amount of needless free kicks he concedes in and around the box, his distribution and link up play is average, his fist touch is poor and on the few occasions he has played in a more advanced role he has done little to convince me that there is a player there. I am not a boo boy at the match and never will be and while he plays for us I would get behind the lad at the game but I just felt I had to comment on the players ability after reading some of the posts about him over the last few weeks. Feel free to disagree but that's my opinion.

Waro

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 11:03:16
Dalglish was at Parkhead on sunday to watch Emilio Izaguirre.
Looks exactly the player to fill the left back position next season and would probably only cost £5 - 6 million.

Harry J

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not good enough

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 10:57:39
I know this is a bit random, but if Manchester United go on to win the league will Owen be eligible for a winners medal?? ? ?

{Editor's Note: If named in their EPL squad - there is no longer a need to play in a certain number of games.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 10:49:58
{Editor's Note: PLease accept my word that the Liverpool board will not be spending like Manchester City.}


Ed! Is it that u dnt want them 2 spend like Man City or genuinely they won't be spending like them. .

I personally dnt want them 2 spend like Man city and would rather be happy with good value buyin which improves our squad and make us title contender. .

Reds

{editor: Different ed. We will not be spending like Man City because we havent got that kind of money and we are not stupid.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 10:50:33
I'll keep Suarez thanks. Watched the Barca v Liverpool game last night and noticed that he didn't have a kick. I still believe that although he's a decent enough player he's hyped up because he plays for Barca.

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I couldn't disagree more. I firmly believe that Messi will be (and for some already is) considered up there with the best of them, don't forget he's still only 23.

The Booter

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 10:54:50
Djibril Cisse will be leaving greek football this season after a racist attack by fans. does anybody think we should bring him back if we can get him cheap and on cheap wages? he seems to have found his shooting boots over there.
mikey

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 10:30:19
Pacheco and ngog not made at anfield, so what pacheco had good tournament ngog clearly not good enough, get rid and get lavezzi, creates scores 1 in 3 and put stevie g back in middle

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 10:16:57
My team with everyone fit:

Kelly Carragher Agger

Johnson Gerrard J Cole Miereles Aurellio

Suarez Carroll

Subs: Jones, Skrtel, Soto, Sterling, Pacheco, Coady, Kuyt.
(both Johnson and Aurellio playing as out and out wingers)
this team also gives us plenty of options. We can use:
3-5-2
5-3-2 (wingers dropping back)
4-4-2 (kelly at rb, aurellio at lb, Cole at lm)
Generally plenty of options for players to swap and change, and think this is by far our strongest team, and one of the few when we aren't forced to include poor players (lucas, maxi, etc). Also including a few good young players on the bench.



another 12yr olds post again, lucas is a poor player is he? hes bin our best player for the past 18 months, id hav him in over joe cole every day an twice on sunday

ed ur views ? {ed's note - Cole is always injured anyway, but Lucas has been our most consistent player this season and played very well, I would certainly not drop him and defo not for Cole.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 10:18:52
£11mill for aqua is robbery, the England job, pay back for the Italian job robbery. He was starting to show his form and carried on to grow in confidence after his move, we shouldn't except anything less than what we paid for him.




f***'em bring him back i say, it can only make our squad stronger, a bit of midfield creativity

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 10:10:01
£11mill for aqua is robbery, the England job, pay back for the Italian job robbery. He was starting to show his form and carried on to grow in confidence after his move, we shouldn't except anything less than what we paid for him.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 09:48:11
"The Madness of King Roy XXIX"

Interesting to read that Dirk Kuyt is looking at signing a new contract. I am a fan of him, but I wonder at 31+ if he has anything more to offer a team that is now looking predominantly towards youth? We already have Carragher and Gerrard over 30 for next season. What we need is legs. If he signs I will be delighted, but not down in the mouth if he moves on. A good club man and deserves respect for that.

I have been bashing the pundits for weeks now. I still make no apologies. But I was delighted to hear David Pleat back on the TV the other day. Football life would be poorer if it were not for his meandering, nonsensical, ill-informed and vacuous babbling!

I saw Fabio Aurelio near Lime Street last week and he was sensational. The way he just walked across the road was utterly amazing. I am in awe of players in our Premier League as they all seem to do so much for charity and are amazingly and sensationally brilliant at everything they do. I agree with Alan Hansen on this issue: the way Rooney adjusted the tie-cord on his shorts before the kickoff the other day was the work of a genius. As one of the lads, I was talking to the lads about some of the lads playing and the lads agreed with me that the lads are doing really brilliantly. In this matter I defer to people like the utterly sensational Jermain Defoe. When he was saying recently (and very quickly like a 14 year old talks!) that the lads are great and he was agreeing with the lads, well I thought that the lads I was talking to would be as impressed with his genius as the lads he plays with.

Defoe - like lots of players - does so much for charity and is a role model and utter legend (as well as a genius) and it's no wonder the lads like him. Even the Cockney Comedy Act, Harry Redknapp ("I don't even know 'ow to turn on a com'puter your judgeship!" - cue chuckle and Cockney shrug of the shoulders) thinks he is absolutely amazing and utterly sensational. The trouble for the rest of us lads is that we are not really the lads like the lads that the lads play with. As good old 'arry puts it, "the boy dun good and the boy is sensational." I agree with him! He is a genius and utterly sensational like all players who also do so much for charity and as role models for the lads, they are respected by the lads like us, who are lads and not! If you know what I mean?

Anyway, good to see the boy Moyesee in the frame for the Spurs job if Redknappy fails to convince the jury - " I don't even know 'ow to open a bank account!" - when he is up for tax evasion in the next few months and is forced to resign. Kenwrighty will be utterly gutted by the sensational news and even Nevilley the captain was brillianty behind the gaffer when he heards the news. At least our own Dalglishy won't be in that position and not one of our players like Gerrardy, Carraghery, Suarezy or Carrolly will behave like the lads do when the lads are with the lads and do something utterly sensationally brilliant and what lads do with lads and h**k things up!
I rest my case.

Steve 'arker

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 09:16:22
To the guy who said this. .
Karim Benzema, Ashley Young, Arda Turan and Eden Hazard are Liverpool's top targets for the summer

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Why on earth would we sign 3 wingers and another striker? already got suarez and carroll who are both young, and the wingers? maybe 1 of those players but no way all 3, it would be way to hard for us to keep all of them happy.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 08:54:42
Ed - why was Suarez not playing for Ajax in the Europa league. He is not eligible for Liverpool, so surely they could have given him a game.
Some people!
LOL.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 08:08:04
21 Feb 2011 14:55:17
Since this is a wish list page i am going to post a real wish that i haven't seen anyone else post.
Leo Messi to Liverpool :l

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I'll keep Suarez thanks. Watched the Barca v Liverpool game last night and noticed that he didn't have a kick. I still believe that although he's a decent enough player he's hyped up because he plays for Barca.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 07:56:53
Hey ed, you said your understanding is that Dalglish will be staying if he wants the job. Could you forsee any reason why he would not want the job? If as expected he accepts the full-time position, any word on when we could possibly expect an announcement?

DownUnderRed.

{Editor's Note: A different Ed but I expect the job to be his if he wants it. I would not expect any announcement until the season is over.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 02:14:09
For the record Ed I think some guys are just pulling your leg about not knowing about luis suarez and the europa league just to irritate you

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 02:41:23
Why is suarez not eligable to play for us in europe. .? ?!? ed help me to understand coz he hasnt play in this compations with ajax. . {ed's note - I have been over this numerous times, he can't play in the Europa League because Ajax are in it. The eligibility rules are freely available on the UEFA website.}
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LOL - I was actually starting to think this was all done and dusted for you eds - then this pops up out of nowhere - I can imagine you curled into a ball and started crying when you saw it ed?

LIVERPRES

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 04:26:07
Not so much of a rumour but fact. Dirk Kuyt was in 360 Bar Dubai on Saturday night with his wife and another couple. On chatting with him he said that Andy Carroll is fit for the Manure game. He also said that there is a real buzz about the club now that the king has taken over and that everyone is excited about Carroll and Suarez.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 01:44:46
Ed, of the current youth team, and the younger players currently on the fringes of the first team such as Wilson and Pacheco, which players do you think are ready for the first team and are there any you would like to see go out on loan? like every Liverpool fan I have a wish list as long as my arm, but wherever possible I would like to see are youngsters given more first team opportunities. {ed's note - I think Ayala is the only one ready for regular first team football, though Wilson, Sterling, Suso and Coady are ready to provide cover, in my opinion. I don't think we need centre backs, especially as Kelly can also play there in need. Left back and right wing are our main weaknesses, plus we have a need of a back up striker I think, though Ngoo is not far away.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 00:50:02
Why is suarez not eligable to play for us in europe. .? ?!? ed help me to understand coz he hasnt play in this compations with ajax. . {ed's note - I have been over this numerous times, he can't play in the Europa League because Ajax are in it. The eligibility rules are freely available on the UEFA website.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 00:39:44
My team with everyone fit:

Kelly Carragher Agger

Johnson Gerrard J Cole Miereles Aurellio

Suarez Carroll

Subs: Jones, Skrtel, Soto, Sterling, Pacheco, Coady, Kuyt.
(both Johnson and Aurellio playing as out and out wingers)
this team also gives us plenty of options. We can use:
3-5-2
5-3-2 (wingers dropping back)
4-4-2 (kelly at rb, aurellio at lb, Cole at lm)
Generally plenty of options for players to swap and change, and think this is by far our strongest team, and one of the few when we aren't forced to include poor players (lucas, maxi, etc). Also including a few good young players on the bench.

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 00:37:42
Why did luis suarez not play in liverpool match on thursday in europe. ed? ? ? {ed's note - for the hundredth time he is not eligible to play in the Europa League.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 00:06:11
Ed, just wondering when you think Andy Carroll will make his debute, when or who against? {ed's note - I have no idea mate, I have long since given up trying to second guess Kenny.}

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 00:09:12
Apology's mate but i don't get what you mean here. Are you saying that Stevie should play CB? And incase you havn't noticed, you've got 12 players in your starting 11.

not a great team but there are only 11 in the team

 

 

 

 

22 Feb 2011 00:09:13
Relationships: Kenny Dalgish Sammy Lee Steve Clark and Carragher

Liverpool first-team coach Steve Clarke. Well i wanted to know is he responsible for the new formation. Now what does Sammy Lee do in this relaitonship,

Steve Clarke former Chelsea assistant manager was appointed as first-team coach at Anfield. Clarke, who played over 500 senior matches for St Mirren and Chelsea, was assistant manager at Stamford Bridge under Jose Mourinho, and also at West Ham United under Gianfranco Zola.

Kenny Dalglish has admitted he expects Jamie Carragher to move into coaching role.Kenny Dalgish resisted the temptation to surround himself with Liverpool "old boys" So what is going on. Whats are the responsibilities between these guys.

 

 

 

 

21 Feb 2011 23:51:34
RE: Stevie should play FreeRole CBK

Let him play as cbk that can go walk about in attacking moves. I like liverpool playing with 3 Center backs, but would like them to play more in midfield. Gerrard could a free role center back.

P.S i couldn't decide who plays up front, but it would be one striker.

I also think Joe cole can tackle and pass. Why not play in midfield. He started his career at West-ham playing in the center. Im sure he can do it for liverpool

 

 

 

 

21 Feb 2011 23:52:00
I want to see Joe Cole play for liverpool. i think he could be changed into center midfield player. someone who can replace lucus. He is very good passer of the ball. Maxi, Raul, Joe Luis all good at passing.

Like to see Gerrard play from the Center back.role. The Center-backs seem be uncomfortable around midfield area.

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G. Johnson - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - M.Kelly
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Apology's mate but i don't get what you mean here. Are you saying that Stevie should play CB? And incase you havn't noticed, you've got 12 players in your starting 11.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ps. Have you been on the razzle?
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Apology's again mate as i've just realised you have 11 players. I've been smoking to much weed, and thought you had 2 Maxi's playing.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ps. My mate warned me, that this weed was strong.

 

 

 

 

 
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