Liverpool Banter Archive August 22 2013

22 Aug 2013 23:12:39
Just read the Guardian article and it is clear that ROdgers is a very frustrated manager at the minute. He obviously realises we are on the verge of becoming a very good side with the addition of 1 or 2 top quality 1st teamers and the purchase of Willian would, no doubt, have been a major step in this direction. There is no doubt that some of the quotes are a message to the owners. Most probably grievances he has aired to them in private, though releasing them in an article is a way to get the fans onside. Well played Mr Rodgers, much more subtle than Rafa and hopefully this exerts the required pressure on the hierarchy!

Willian played us and now he's playing spurs, let him go to chelsea, he's not worth 32 million pounds . {Ed002's Note - He was no more than a player Liverpool were interested in, that they did not offer enough money to buy. If Liverpool were to offer sufficient money even now perhaps a deal could be done. If he is after a commitment on game time he won't get that from Chelsea. Nothing is finalised yet.}

IMO, the problem is that the players we are after are those that for some reason are not interested in playing for us or we are just unlucky in the market at the moment. I don`t think BR is frustrated at FSG BUT more at the fact that we are not getting the players period. FSG put up the money for HM (who`s not marquee because nobody really knew who he was), Costa (who has CL and and will be the guy along w/ Villa) and Willian (based on what we know is nothing but a money-grabbing merc). I will call that bad luck. BR is doing a decent job and the owners are trying to stop the financial mess we`re in (that nobody seems to care about). If buying mercs like Willian is what some people want and not care about the whole it blows into our wage structure or by how much we get mugged by agents and players` wages, then the owners have my support to stick to their guns. We have struck cold w/ Cout, Studg, Migs, Kolo, Aspas, and maybe Alberto at decent fees all in one year. How many teams can boast that in this day and age of over-priced flops? some clubs haven`t bought a soul and we`ve bought 5 players since july and we`re the ones panicking? BR, FSG, and Ayre will get us what we NEED and at the right price. Stay strong and keep the faith lads and don`t let the media (some of which are bent on putting us down regardless of what we achieve) sway your belief in our great club.

Dubred68, you are so wrong! What has he got to do with anything! Its everywhere! We did not meet his 32M evaluation, right or wrong. But he did mention only our club's name in public. Not getting ahead of myself but we're still attractive to good players is all that I wanted to say.

22 Aug 2013 22:48:55
All this talk about a marque signing. does anyone else feel that keeping Suarez would be akin to a marque signing? surely one of the top 5 players in the world? I think if Brendan pulls it off, then that is good enough for me!

Sakho and Turan. They would feel like we've completed the squad

Both available so it's now up to FSG to prove they want to take us forward.

Nowhere near one of the top 5 players in the world in my opinion, but that's just an opinion. I have no interest in him remaining at the club, personally.

Professional football is a business. If Suarez stays and gives the kind of effort we know he can like a pro should, he will be like a new signing at least till Jan and will destroy teams along w/ cout and studge.

RDL that is just silly. I can understand your frustration with him but that doesn't change his ability.

How is it silly? Messi, Ronaldo, Van Persie, Iniesta, and Lewandowski. All better than Suarez, in my opinion, and I could easily name probably 10 more without thinking too hard about it. He's good, but he's not top 5 or even top 10 in my opinion.

22 Aug 2013 22:36:05
BR saying it was not football reasons which mean FSG did not back him with enough money to get the player he feels would have fitted the jigsaw. That is terrible. Who do they expect us to get now, Freddie adu?!

The only way to restore some faith with us fans who breathe this club and take everything personally is to get sakho and turan who are both excellent additions

Wrong! What that meant was that lfc wanted the player but wouldn`t pay what they felt was excessive fees (especially if the 5m for agent fees is true). That`s what is called a non-footballing reason.

Greedy agents
LFC not mugs anymore

Not footballing reasons = Kia Joorabchian. apparently he wanted a fee of £5m? Quite frankly he can foxtrot Oscar!

Whatever the reason, we will know by the end of the window what FSG's long term intentions are.

If we fill the gaps in the squad that are obvious to everyone, (whether they be marquee signings or not) I would accept that they have the clubs best interests at heart.

If the window closes and these positions are not filled, and the window shows a profit on sales and buys, we will all know what they are trying to achieve, ie obtain success on the cheap with the Manager's hands tied behind his back.

Please don't reply about them saving the club, they bought it at a knockdown price and are guaranteed to make profit if they sell. Someone posted earlier about £60m television money and it was stated that we haven't received it yet. Come on - it's not like waiting for a lottery win, this is guaranteed money that will defintely coming. If they can't back a bridging loan to bring in who we need before the window shuts, they just don't get the picture. Making top 4 this season could be make or break for Liverpool.

We will only know on 2nd September but, pessimistically, I envisiage sitting up late on deadline day only to go to bed deflated (and no - I'm not a blow up doll!)

22 Aug 2013 23:43:54
Mate I was shocked by what Rodgers said, infact he put all blame on owners by saying, his job is to identify right players who will improve/help us but the owners are the ones who have last say, he even added Quality will cost you money, he was so gutted that it was showing all over his face!

Worrying re situation, we were all happy with early transfer deals, 4 good buys. and comments about enlarging the squad. But if you take into account out goings the squad is smaller. and we have spent minus £1,000,000 . and lowered the wage bill . Owner must be very happy business wise, BUT do they have the ambition to move the club forward, only time will tell, they just cannot take to long deciding

Spend within our means and spend ethically. what is this agent doing for £5M? If the player really wants to join us he'll pay his agent himself or make him lower his fees to secure the move.

I am 100% behind FSG to start before I take to much flack .
But its all well and good JoK saying we are not mugs any more when the teams we are competing with still are . if all our main competitors were taking the same stand we would be ok but there not . they instead pay what they have to to get the players they feel will drasticley help the team. we have had a good summer in the market but FSG need to loosen there stance just a little and get some of the guys we need .

I think some people are reading too many "hidden messages".

In the Guardian quote, Rodgers

said:"(FSG) will finance a project we are trying to develop and what we have to make sure of is we get the right players and the value and worth of the player is right."

Not sure how this constitutes a "pop" by Rodgers at FSG.

If the problem is that FSG don't want to pay an additional 5m to the agent, I support them.

It's past time that the football authorities do something to regulate and cap agent fees. It appears out of control.

Seriously don`t know where you got that tom but good job.

He has every right to blame them. Who'll get sacked if we don't get top four?

The worst situation will be when suarez goes to madrid next week and we can't get a replacement in. Dameio? would he come last minute to england?

i just hope we can get a few more signings in {Ed002's Note - If Liverpool made an acceptable offer to Damaio and his club, then a transfer can be completed in the next 10 days - or are Liverpool hindered by a shorter transfer window than everyone else?}

22 Aug 2013 22:29:12
Luis suarez will be off to madrid in my opinion benzema looks like arsenal bound

Abbas lfc

And replacement for suarez is any ideas

Have to agree, think he will go last week of window, we should put a bid in for Joan mata and may need to get through till next window a striker short, better that than a panic buy

Aspas

Any Ideas scored 25 in the Hungarian top division last season as well assisting a further 20. My first choice would South Korean striker Fuq No's as he is both footed and is a footballing genius.

22 Aug 2013 23:43:17
My opinion benteke brilliant player and in time will be one of the best as he has everything
Pace
Power
Good in air
Touch is good
And
GOALS!


Abbas lfc

Suarez will go no where if BR and FG don`t have a good replacement which they don`t. I`ll be shocked if they let last summer`s debacle repeat itself.

23 Aug 2013 12:20:09
A post from Ed02 yesterday mentioned that Suarez agent, when asked who we would look to replace him with, mentioned daimio and vela as probable targets

22 Aug 2013 21:48:57
Can you tell us more on eriksen and stupidly why we haven't gone for him?taking into account our policy of youth but wanting quality for the starting 11 and at a not so ridiculous cost and with his skills technique and winning mentality even at 20 million would be a bargain? {Ed002's Note - Eriksen continues to talk to the press, which generally makes clubs nervous. There are no acceptable offers on the table at all, but interest remains from AC Milan (who have agreed terms with his agent). Spurs may well push harder as Pjanic is no longer an option.}

I can`t wait till the window`s over so this Eriksen obsession can be over and done with. He`s not good enough, period.

22 Aug 2013 21:43:25
Hi eds if Madrid come in for Suarez would 40 m plus morata on season long loan be possible, as we're not going to replace Suarez with so little time left in the window but it could work out if we sign another attacking player for the left wing and push coutinho in the centre behind sturridge,
Thanks
Jeff {Ed002's Note - I have no real idea Jeff. Perhaps they would be interested in such a deal..}

40 million and moratta ON LOAN? That's as bad as 40 million plus one quid, glad you aren't negotiating for us!

22 Aug 2013 23:09:20
Just a ball park figure mark relax, but in reality if Madrid did offer say even 45 mil and morata on loan for a season if day Suarez will be off,
Thanks
Jeff

22 Aug 2013 20:53:11
i still think a cheeky thomas ince bid may still be on the cards

Hope not, not good enough IMHO.

Let's be honest, Raheem Sterling and Jordan Ibe are better than Ince .

Does frustrate me when I see some of the players that some of my fellow supporters want to see wear the red shirt.

For example Victor Moses, Micah Richards, Scott Sinclair, Tom Ince, Carlos Vela just to name a few, surely we have had enough mediocrity over the last few years to last a lifetime!

Although looking at that list of dross, you could be forgiven for thinking it was a list of players Damien Comolli had recommended!

Mark it's the same fans who hope for fourth not first.
But when players like Turan and Sakho are wanting moves and we've not bid isn't a wonder why we are straw clutching.
If FSG brought these in we wouldn't be posting about players like Richards etc and we would not be HOPING for fourth but talking up this being our year.

Unfortunately it's a case of owning a Ferrari but not affording the petrol yet still expecting to be in the race.

Carlos Vela torn apart teams last year, very much an improvement from his Araenal days. Would be lucky to sign him.

Add Victor Moses to that list too.

Though i'm not sure on reflection that Willian would ever have been a good signing either, from a weak league, not an international regular and no great end product, maybe a bullet dodged?

22 Aug 2013 20:46:17
i think we all need to calm a bit, forget the willians, mkrtchyan, ericksons and let the scouting team do their jobs i'd much rather have 3 players like coutinho and sturridge than 1 30m random that's had a good season in a relatively poor leauge.
i think were going to have a much better season than last with the squad we already had now they have had chance to adjust to Rodgers style of play, toure is an immense signing as is mignolet, I also think aspas is going to be a real gem, if he gets game time i'm certain he will outscore soldado negredo and jovetic, all 20m+ signings and we payed 7

I agree, Sturridge and Countinho are inspired signings and the additions of Toure, Aspas and Mignolet looks like superb business .

Who knows what will become of Alberto and Cissokho this season, however I have total confidence in Rodgers and 'the RT' to find the right players based on their work thus far .

Agreed. Let the experts who got us Toure, Cout, Sturridge, Aspas Migs, etc do their job, PLEASE!

I have complete faith in Rodgers and his staff to find quality targets right for us - I have no faith in FSG actually spending the money required to bring them to the club.

22 Aug 2013 20:26:11
with benzema surplus at real and guna be sold, do the edds reckon they'll go 4 suarez? after all its late in the window and henry and rodgers said d can't replace him . would it be d case Liverpool would inform real that any potential sale to them would depend on us getting someone in b4 the sale of suarez? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

22 Aug 2013 20:14:13
So no Scott Sinclair now, thank godddddd! I'm hoping for ilori or sakho. Papa is a little price heavy.

Arda Turan has got to happen! If we do sell Suarez last minute I can see us then getting damieo which I would be very happy. I do think Suarez will stay for the season.

Cheers

Papa injured his knee again in training

Has he really injured the knee again. Hope we make a solid move for Sakho now.

22 Aug 2013 20:04:17
surely if chelsea sign willian someone willbe leaving

they ll have oscar hazard mata schurrle de bryune willian and moses for three positions

i quite like victor moses, I think he d be a decent signing for us and he offers a goal threat

thanks {Ed002's Note - Done to death.}

What are the chances of getting De Bryune off chelsea? If Willian signs he would surely have Hazard, Mata, Oscar, Willian and arguably Schurlle in front of him for a spot in the team. {Ed002's Note - None.}

22 Aug 2013 19:55:13
Ive seen people mention diego capel so I thought I would check some videos. Within 3seconds he reminded me of assaidi. Runs exactly like him and gets kicked about a lot. He doesn't look very tidy at all.

22 Aug 2013 19:41:50
if its a case of turan and sakho wanting a move to lfc let's just try 4 that . all these eriksens and willians are a joke . too much drama associated with them . like chelsea don't even need willian . willing to pay 30mill for mourinhos games and ego . fact is he would have got game time at anfield in an important world cup year and fair enuf his club wants d most cash . if your talking 20 mil for turan 8 for sakho and I heard lazio are doing business with yilmaz at 8 m . they're the 3 buys i'd like . well within the structre i'd imagine at a stretch but atleast 2 show a desire to play for lfc

Would love to see them all but surely yilmaz would cost 25+, not 8.

22 Aug 2013 19:35:37
Spuds aha chelski hijacked the move right before he signed for spuds. And they have lost bale now too. Hopefully we get some lamela and arda, and get top 4. YNWA

Some lamela and arda, their arms maybee?

22 Aug 2013 19:31:37
Ok. Imagine this.
*willian ends up moving to chelski for money
*tottenham are now loath to sell bale and reject the offer RM thought would be accepted.
*unwilling to negotiate further, RM sign suarez for £55m
*Liverpool snatch Lamela from tottenham who have ended their action in the market and also sign sakho for £10m, Ilori for £6m and will Hughes for £10m. Everyone's thrilled! :)
Possible eds? {Ed002's Note - Sure, nailed on.}

And then I wake up!

kidding aside:

any one from Lamela, Konoplyanka or Yarmolenko would be great.

not sure if Sakho would be given the amount of playing time he wants with us

22 Aug 2013 19:16:57
I really feel for Coates, according to BR he was going to have game time this season and was expected to be main cover but this injury might even ruin his chances of playing for uruguay in the world cup.
The moment Kelly comes back this happens.
ACL(Anterior cruciate ligament) - 6 months out

Think he meant loan out for game time if not sold.

I think he meant game time at another club.

Great article on John Barnes on LFC website, well worth a read. He was my favourite player after the King retired.
Shame about Coates

Coates is to slow, weak in the tackle, has no spring, no leadership skills and his positional play is woefull, and will never make it at Liverpool. has the frame to be a sammi hyppia type of player but lacks everything a good center half needs. he was the last player to be shipped out with the other rubbish we've sold. just allen, henderson, borini, assaidi and enrique with 1 season to prove their worth. i'm undecided with assaidi andborini?

I think he was saying that it was world cup year and he should be playing more often, even though if it were not for us, on loan or possibly sold.

22 Aug 2013 19:12:38
CFC just hijacked willian by offering Anzi €37 mill before Willian signed. What drama!

22 Aug 2013 19:08:38
Im hearing stories of Willian to Chelski . any truth EDS? {Ed002's Note - After yesterday's statement (see earlier posts) it has led to discussions today and some convincing of one person at Chelsea by another that the return from him will improve with the right coaching. Chelsea have been looking for another attacking player who his versatile but, critically, they will not offer guarantees about playing time.}

22 Aug 2013 18:51:09
how many more players are Liverpool going to lose out on? what is ayre getting paid for? I think its time fsg sat down with rodgers&ayre and get answers we are becoming a joke {Ed002's Note - You would be surprised how few of the players "linked" with Liverpool are actually the subject of an "enquiry" and then how few of those are subject to an "offer" being made.}

How many more fans of Liverpool are going to lose it? I think its time lesg77 sat down with himself and gave/got some answers. He is becoming a joke.

Andy K

We lose out on players every single day. I suggest you take a chill pill before you hurt yourself.

22 Aug 2013 18:37:02
BANG!!
Where did that come from willian is going to Chelsea no one seen that coming well all of a sudden we started to get r hopes up again like I mean Chelsea don't even need willian
So let's move on and wait and c who next on r list please god let us get someone good

Jose's 2013 version of Damien Duff.
Same old, same old.

22 Aug 2013 18:36:12
So, the twist in Willian deal is not us then. Chelsea are in for Willian (via Sly Sports News)

22 Aug 2013 18:33:00
Eds with Chelsea going to get Willian, who is going to make an exit? Mata maybe coming to us {Ed002's Note - You want the Chelsea page for these and other exciting questions Matty.}

22 Aug 2013 18:30:21
Spuds looking good . 5-0 up after 65 mins in Tblisi!
I hope this Mickey Mouse competition knackers them out.
ANFIELDPETE

22 Aug 2013 18:14:15
Does anyone know anything about a medical being done earlier today. probably a spanish kid for the youth team

22 Aug 2013 18:00:44
Hi Eds & all

Good news on Aly signing should be a strong addition to the squad.

Not sure what the EDs think but I just want to say that I for one am glad that the club is not spending 25-30 mil just for the sake of it .I am glad that we are not being held to ransom by agents etc and have a limit.Yes its frustrating but short term thinking financially has almost destroyed this club not too long ago.I hope that the days of spending 35mil panic buying are done .

The club has said all along that there is money available if the right player becomes available. The right player means a player that will add to the squad and usually have a decent resale value .

I don't mind the club living within its means, we have short memories, the club is still loosing money albeit performing much better financially .The last thing I want is the club to throw money away like we did with Commoli & KD .

Things have changed and there will be no easy way back to the top people . I believe the ONLY way we could make it back to the top is by building the club from the bottom up and that takes more than money.

We will probably never have the money City do, the attendance united have or a suggar daddy like Chelski . So we should stop thinking like them and simply looking to to the easy option of spending our way back (not going to happen)

We should try and be more patient and realistic, for long as we keep improving we will be back at the top .

Keep the Faith

I agree with everything you say my friend it's great to see the academy looking so strong and a long term goal in place to develop these talents. Hopefully they will lead us back to the top takes time but it can be done without splashing cash around taking already established stars

22 Aug 2013 17:47:20
Stop all this Spurs envy. Who in our team would any of their new signings displace? I'd prefer Sturridge to Soldado any day, Lucas over Paulinho, Gerrard over Caboue, and was never that sold on Willian. Plus, we have Coutinho, they don't. If Suarez is still about, they have nobody in his league. Stop drooling just because they are spending big, and appreciate what we already have.

I totally agree, which other top C Lge teams were chasing these players?
I'm sure they're good players in their own right but Paulinho has never played out side of S America to my knowledge, also what effect on the team e.g. Dembele will these signings have?
Full backs and strikers are where Spurs need major surgery to really push on {Ed002's Note - If allowed to play in his preferred position, Paulinho is expected to do very well indeed.}

22 Aug 2013 18:31:11
If Suarez is still about, they have nobody in his league

I loved that NIck. I want him back. A full fit hungry suarez would rip any opposition.

22 Aug 2013 22:02:44
tinted reds lads, they are 9 players better than us!

And what players are those apart from Paulinho (who was awesome at the confed cup)? Chadli, Capoue, Rose, Soldado (whose not better than Sturridge)? Are you serious? It took a season of a lifetime from Bale just to make 5th. He`s gone BUT Suarez might stay. They`ve lost their most effective player while we still have ours (for now). If we keep suarez and he`s hungry, we will kick butt big time. Support your team and don`t fall for the drivel rolled out by doom-mongers.

22 Aug 2013 17:31:56
Hey ed, is it true Papadopolous has suffered a serious injury during his first training session?
Also, you said that with Coates out, we would not let Skrtel go except a replacement is brought in - would that replacement be Ilori, or is there still a chance of us going for Sakho/Alderwield/X? {Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

22 Aug 2013 17:08:51
Hi eds

Just watched Rodgers press con.

He seemed a bit low a down when taking about transfers. Do u think he realized that we just can't bring in these 20+m willian, costa type of players? Bit disappointing I think, because if we could find a top left sided player we could have really pushed on! Judging by his attitude, I think it's safe to say we won't be seeing a top attacker bought in now.

Not seen the interview yet, but what gets me is if the owners are lying to Rodgers about funds, would he still off bought the players he did.

Last summer he really wanted Dempsey and sigurdsson, but would he off bought borini knowing he wasn't going to get anymore money?

Seems like all the body language experts are back on

The fact the owners aren't releasing the funds is absolutely disgusting. They've had huge increases in revenues from TV rights but haven't spent a penny so far this transfer window (speaking in net terms).

Get your wallets out or sell up- there are plenty of better options than you anyway FSG. We're being left behind at the moment and the worst thing is that BR is identifying the right targets, they want to come to us, but owners won't sanction the move. DISGRACE

{Ed002's Note - This is one of the reasons we used to try to avoid discussing finances. (a) The TV money has not been given to the clubs at this time. (b) The spending this summer taking account of all money received and money spent related to the transfers leaves the club in the black still. (c) The owner's wallets have been open continuously since the took over the club - to the tune of about £1M per week. (d) Why not share these "better options" you mention - Kenny Huang is it?}

Bottom line is the squad is now quite fragile again and if we get a few injuries our form will suffer. A 'big' signing was talked about but so far it has failed to materialise - if we lose Suarez and only end up bringing in another centre back then you can chalk this window up as an abject failure and certainly not one that makes a Champions League spot likely.

The big question is were the owners ever really committed to bringing in a player with a hefty transfer fee? Only they know but the sub-par bids for Mickey and Willian tell there own story.

Also he didn't mention 1 thing about an attacking signing either. Just said we shouldn't get down about loosing willian!

Maybe the penny has dropped, e.g. no RM interest in saurez = no money for transfers, put that in your pipe and smoke it brenda

So because we did not waste our money on a mercenary and an agent who tried to jam us up for 5m means we have no money? Big joke, really. But we had money for the complicated deal for HM and Costa (we even triggered his release clause by all accounts). No problems there, right? You need to choose what side of your conspiracy you`re on.

22 Aug 2013 17:05:41
Hello eds i'd just like to ask a question of opinion if anyone is willing to answer please do. I'm just wondering if people think we'll be able to sign 2 players before the window closes cause its clear we need a CB and a Winger. At the moment there doesn't seem to be that many options for either of those positions either because they aren't quality or simply not worth the money the club is willing to spend so my question is do you think we can sign a winger and CB before the window closes? or do you think its more likely we see a CB and that's all. Thanks for any responses in advance.

22 Aug 2013 16:10:05
I can't be the only one to have noticed we have got rid of 4 midfielders this summer, and brought in none, which leaves us with only 7. (Gerrard, Lucas, Allen, Coutinho, Henderson, Sterling and Ibe). Getting a bit thread bare.

So eds, who is our most realistic midfield target?

Thanks

Remember Luis Alberto?

Spearing left, nobody cares.
Shelvey left, replaced with Alberto.
Coady has gone on loan, needs experience.
If you think you know how to run Lfc better than Rodgers, apply for the job?

We only play 3 or 4 and have 7 to choose from. Not threadbare just yet.

Alberto can play their.

How many do you want?

We typically only play with 3 midfielders at a time so I'd say Gerrard, Lucas, Allen, Henderson, Coutinho, and Alberto is pretty sufficient coverage. Technically Pacheco is still around as well who can play CAM.

37 midfielders obviously. That will show the other clubs, we are LFC

Alberto can play on the offensive positions, and all our attackers can operate behind a striker, or on the wings

To wezthegerman!spearing left nobody cares comments a bit harsh.spearing knew he wasn't going to make it, but he never give up did he, we need players with his passion an fight for our club but they are hard to find, dying breed.i wish the lad the best an most other reds would too!

22 Aug 2013 16:06:32
Spurs spending this window has been incredible. They do have a much stronger team in terms of depth. Think we have to just cop that. But the transfer window is not over yet. saying that I do remember the last summer window :(

22 Aug 2013 15:52:28
Dear Eds

Who do you see being realistic acquisition targets before deadline day? {Ed002's Note - I have explained where there is interest. Try reading the posts.}

Appreciate It, keep it up

22 Aug 2013 15:30:03
Spurs just waiting for Bales move to release some funds before completing the signing of Willian
Just in case there's any hold up in bales move there holding back

22 Aug 2013 15:15:48
Forget that last question Ed I see you've already answered one similar so don't waste your time haha! Have a good day.

22 Aug 2013 15:14:45
Ed I was thinking about the Willian situation and had a question. 2 clubs A and B offered to buy a player from club X, however B's offer is lower than A can the player force a move to B if that is were he want's to go? I'm not saying this is the situation with Willian it just got me thinking. I assume the club in that instance would just refuse to sell. {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

22 Aug 2013 14:40:50
If Willian wanted the move to Liverpool, is it just his agents valuation and THEM wanting their player to play in the Champions League that has meant the move didn't happen? How much does the players intent actually matter?

Mike {Ed002's Note - It is what an acceptable fee to his club is.}

Eds at this late stage surely William will sign now. I'm hanging onto a hope that we might still be in with a chance, that's wishfull thinking I no but you never know. BR has also just said we are looking at a defender to cover for injured SC. {Ed002's Note - Ilori remains of interest but there is still the difference in valuation.}

I know levy is put up as some sort of genius but surely even he couldn't convince willian representatives that Spurs are in the champions league

22 Aug 2013 14:23:44
Do we still have an interest in Tom Ince after our enquiry in January? He could be an alternative to our left wing problem. BR has said he wants someone quick who can score goals which Ince fits, plus he is young, wouldn't be too expensive and would be on lower wages than the likes of Willian.

22 Aug 2013 14:17:00
Crazy Rumour! Liverpool have upped there bid for Willian on the idea that we may be about to lose suarez, Arsenal are trying to sign Benzema and if they do Real madrid will come in for Suarez leaving us to sign Willian and maybe one more. Don't shoot the messenger I'm just putting 2+2 together (Probably making 6) based on Rumours.

Jaymoor

22 Aug 2013 14:35:18
if suarez goes it would need to be asap so there is no panic buying r just agree a deal and say nothing like spurs.and get 3 top players like kenny done when rushie went.

22 Aug 2013 13:47:49
Okay, so I've seen very little of Turan could anyone on here give a succinct overview of him as a player? What's he all about?

I'd rather hear your guy's knowledge on the player than watch a youtube clip. Does he offer more goals or assists?

Cheers lads,

Puzzled Red {Ed030's Note - Assits,Turan would offer Liverpool what we don't really have at the moment,He fits is with Rodgers liking his players to close down after losing the ball and to me seems the perfect "Rodgers player".As a players he's skillful,Loves beating his man,Very good dribbler,Very good on the ball and a decent end product. }

22 Aug 2013 14:44:48
I did a big piece on him, Lamela, Willian and Coutinho at half past midnight if you wanna have a read. Basically said the same as the Ed, but in a little more detail.

YNWAdam

Similar to Juan Mata?

He has everything you would want in a left-sided forward other than lots of pace, although he isn't exactly slow. He easily makes up for it by wriggling past everyone anyway, often just for fun. A joy to watch. Haven't had high hopes at all throughout the close season but this rumour has me dreaming. Couldn't care less about what changes with the CD positions as we're sorted whatever happens. Turan as our final signing would complete and incredible transfer window for Ayre and co.

For me better than Mata in every department. I think I am the only one but I actually think Mata is overrated.
I know people will say he was Chelsea's best player last year but I do not think he is the world beater some say he is. His passing is neat and tidy and vision very good. He will not win Ariel battles, tackle well, play a lovely 40 yard ball or IMO dribble past players with ease.

He is very good but Arda I think is much better

Thanks ed and posters. I appreciate it.

Puzzled Red

Ed030, I agree with your summary of him as a player, he's very good. What is your opinion on his goalscoring ability however? If this was a reason some were concerned about Willian, Turan's record seems to be even worse? Surely if he was one of the forward players he'd need to add goals? {Ed030's Note - He doesn't score many goals but he more then makes up for it with the chances he creates. }

22 Aug 2013 13:42:24
i was just wandering is there any interest in a double swoop for city's duo milner and richards? I think they would both provide a lot of depth for the squad with milner capable of playing pretty much anywhere and richards also able to play across the whole back line. it seems to me they are both forgotten at man city and in a world cup year would relish the opportunity of first team football

And they are English. Would have been nice.

But neither one of them is good enough.

Richards would be a good signing if his medical showed no problems. Him and Toure is half the City defence that won the title and he'd have a point to prove. Also much more competition for Glen. I'm hoping they're still interested in Skrtel and we could trade.

22 Aug 2013 13:27:21
So ready for this transfer window to end, it's been exhausting. I'm sure much worse for the Eds.

If Liverpool want Willian, and weren't just interested and asking about him, now is the time to act. If they don't think he's worth more than offered, then good. Just hopin we get someone. Watched Arda last night and got to say he looked good on the counter. Also watched Ben Arfa for Newcastle and he looked like the only player who belonged vs City, but still don't think he's what Liverpool needed.

Also hoping we don't sign Hughes. There's really nowhere for him. Except U-21.

Also, just when I thought the Suarez saga was over, Arsenal look at Benzema, which would fund a Suarez purchase for Real. Don't think that'll happen because for one, it's Arsenal, and two, I don't think the owners would let Suarez go this late.

Here's to hoping we finish the window strong and keep stacking up W's.

22 Aug 2013 13:24:46
i say this every window, but after reading some of the posts today the EDS on here must have the patience of saints. Thanks for your hard work to keep us informed.

22 Aug 2013 13:23:22
So, Sahko, Turan and Willian would ALL prefer to move to LFC.

Would take Sahko and Turan, in a heartbeat. Would be over joyed with the summer window and squad.

Would feel like top four IS possible.

Top players want to come, Turan + Sahko total around £30m (plus fees etc), seems after all the outgoings this should be affordable.

Over to FSG, do they want CL football or not?

22 Aug 2013 12:32:28
Just hearing on SPN that William is considering his options! Another premier league club showing interest. Any thoughts Ed? {Ed002's Note - If another EPL side were interested then yes.}

22 Aug 2013 13:04:51
Just want to say I hope we don't sign Turan now as we had the opportunity years ago when he was first comming on the scene and younger and at a cheaper price, tbh I would rather sign a younger players like coutinho I no them deals for the price we paid are rare but they are out there. Look at swansea with michu 2m, villa with Benteke.

Cheers

Unfortunately people don't see it like this. If Ince goes to Newcastle (or similar team) and scores 15 Prem goals, makes the England WC squad and is valued at 20m the cries of we could have bought him or 6-7m and Ayre is an person would be deafening. Likewise if United got Will Hughes for 9m and Moyes said he wants him to be the next Paul Scholes we'd have wailing and gnashing of teeth that we missed out, he was a Liverpool fan and it should have been obvious he's the next big thing. Instead let's spend 20m now on players from foreign countries who are equally not the finished article but feature in silly lists of the 50 hottest teens in global soccer. Les trust he people who do the scouting and place a value to LIVERPOOL on these players.

22 Aug 2013 12:17:28
Eds, do you know if we have any vested interest in Di Maria? Looking at the fact we are after a wide player with pace and creativity I would have said he is a more realistic target than Willian and Arda Turan. Losing Willian to Spurs is disappointing but I think Di Maria would fit in well to BR's way of playing. will be interesting to hear your thoughts on this! {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown no interest in him.}

22 Aug 2013 12:07:45
no I don't mean that ed, just mean that he is an amazing player and he looks to be available so why can't we go for him, he is quicker than turan?!

do you think we will sign an attacker at all or just an over promise from BR? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

22 Aug 2013 11:53:15
hi, eds you say our main priority now is a centre half and an attacting left sided midfield player, can you actually give us any names you think we might be interested in? i'm seeing lots of names being thrown your way, but most you say we are "not interested in" or "you expect another club to complete or push a deal through." Great work on the site, its very addictive, keep it up. {Ed002's Note - Those answers are there because people are throwing up random lists of players they found them on their fantasy football manager games. Where there has been an interest in players that I am aware of I have said.}

Any chance you can name some of these players then so I don't have to sit and use the search function for the next 30mins ha {Ed002's Note - Why not read the posts?}

22 Aug 2013 11:49:02
Morning eds wats the crack with ya

I afraid we r in great danger of having a great looking squad to oh rubbish look at r squad
Because if we had of got willian what a line up we would of had as it didn't happen and reports that Graham Hunter believes Real will come in for Suarez late on so that would be two huge gaps in a squad still would need sorted. We need a big name soon preferably in the left forward position and then if we know Suarez is going to go have someone lined up but I fear for r whole season that the worst might happen bring 2nd September.
Thoughts please
Thanks guys.

22 Aug 2013 11:26:58
Did Borini used to play for Chelsea? {Ed002's Note - Yes.}

22 Aug 2013 11:11:55
hi eda just a question do you think we could push for a deal for damiao because wasnt rodgers trying to get him on loan during the last window {Ed002's Note - Now would be the time to declare an interest if Liverpool do want him.}

Brilliant player that will defiantly get the goals and with us having £25M+ to spend the fee wouldn't be a problem, only problem I can see is that his best position is the No.9 as main ST which Sturridge is currently occupying, would Sturridge be happy to be pushed out wide. The answer is a resounding NO, do we change out formation to fit in both Damiao & Sturridge probably NO.

22 Aug 2013 10:31:12
Fellow Reds,

Let's keep turning up the volume for every Liverpool match, make it feel like a Cup Final every single time! I for one, love and had tears in my eyes after the way the lads played, the unity and cohesion on the Stoke game. It really felt like a Cup Final win and if we keep it up, even without Willian and/or some other marquee signing/s, The Reds will dominate and demolish other teams!


Get in, will ya!~!
YNWA!

That's how we should be. Was it Houllier who always said it was about will and skill. So true. We help build the will.

Also when we spent a lot on players people said we would be better for it - but not always true. People thought Carrol was great to start with and Sahin and Downing etc. etc. etc.

Spuds do not have a guarantee. If our will is greater we will be better and finish higher.

22 Aug 2013 10:26:18
Turan, no thanks. Lamela yes please. Doubt we will get another attacking player now though. i'm happy either way.

Why? While I agree Lamela is an excellent player, he is also, very close to joining Spurs.

Turan is available for the right price, a price we can afford, is a huge LFC fan, would be willing to come to us as a result and would improve our first team massively. That is if, we get on our bike and try and get him soon before Arsenal does!

Sorry AG but turan just isn't the player for me at the price he's at considering what type of player we are looking for. but I will support anyone who wears the shirt even though I don't think he's the right man. I won't complain either way, would love lamela though I think he fits the bill in my eyes and would be a wonderful asset to both Liverpool and spurs

I agree Lamela would have been a great signing, but he is not an option now, though we made an inquiry. If Spurs sign him for the reported 30 million Euros, cheaper than Willian, it would be excellent business.

Turan is one of the best available and affordable players we could get, at the right quality IMO.

I would be happy with either Turan or lamela to be honest. Both good players that will improve us.
If we get Turan it's unlikely he will be pushing for a move elsewhere in a few years. Not sure you can say the same with lamela, but we won't know until he's here I suppose. At least if he did move his value will probably have increased.

Turan doesn't have the pace I think lfc are looking for. technically he's more then good enough but still if he signs ill back the club no mstter what

22 Aug 2013 10:10:31
Hey Eds, any ideas as to why we rejected a bid for Skrtel? I thought we wanted to get rid? Plus his sale would certainly fund a purchase of Papa/Sakho wouldn't it? Or was it rejected as the club felt 10mil was too low and are holding out for a higher offer? Thanks. {Ed002's Note - With Coates injured I imagine the club would look to hold on to Skrtel, at least until a replacement arrived. Napoli have taken the hint and have started work on an alternative.}

Shame because that would have been a fair offer, plus I'm sure skrtle would have liked a move.

I would have thought Wisdom would take Coates' place in the squad, but we clearly want Ilori.

I cannot see how it would impact Skrtel's position.

I can't see how Coates getting injured makes much difference ed. Both players were top of the list to be moved on this Summer. So unless we can't get the players we were looking to replace Skrtel? {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has made little effort aside from Ilori to address this situation so far. My opinion is as stated above. So why do you think Liverpool turned down the offer?}

22 Aug 2013 10:04:17
Honestly I truly hope that the rumor we are in for Will Hughes is a joke- Jonjo was better!
10mil for another over priced, low skilled, head less chicken will be a complete disgrace and will clearly indicate the way LFC are heading.
I just pray that this is nothing more than a cruel joke. {Ed002's Note - As I say, pitiful.}

People like you are why are young English players are in there shell the amount of abuse give to a 20 year old is incredible.

I've not watched will Hughes much but from what I hear he has fabulous awareness and a end product, wheras jonjo missed so many chances and had poor awareness.

10 million is a lot of money but gerrard didn't start out a genius so maybe it could be a steal, plus Barcelona never watched jonjo shelvey lol.

To be fair Scouse Ben a lot of British players are vastly overated and we have purchased a few stinkers in our day but I certainly wouldn't be abusing a player that hasn't even joined us or showed us what he's about. I agree with the ed! It is pitiful. Oh, also, Gerrard was always going to be a genius from the first game I saw him play. He was a rare British gem. Few and far between. Cheers.

Are you serious mate? Hughes will be a much better player

I very much doubt you've bothered to watch Will Hughes play before typing such a pathetic post. And if you bother to read the article - it clearly says £10m rated - nothing about us paying that amount up front.

Watched Hughes in the U21 game against Scotland, looks good. Think £10m is way to much, should be around £7m like Shelvey was.

Crunch

We bought Shelvey for £1.3 million.

I agree irish rover but for a individual to call names on young player from england is appaling. If he was 20 and called willandinho Hughes Borges from brazil a wonderkid. We would be like omg sign him 35 million he's a genius. But because he is will hughes and plays for derby he's a donkey. I think we have such small faith in our english talent and to think we habe the best set of youngsters around.

18 years old and a great talent, hope we get him, ant

22 Aug 2013 09:44:26
So we don't sell Suarez to Arsenal as that would be strengthening "a close rival for top 4 spot". Understandable. However we then, according to Macca, walk away from Willian who wants to join us but costs a few extra million than we wanted to pay, leaving him with the only other viable option to join "a close rival for a top 4 spot" in Spurs. If we spot a player that can add to the team then surely he is worth the extra few million once you start playing silly money. Remember we wouldn't pay the extra few million for Ronaldo all those years ago.

Ed's, we've been linked to a fair few players this summer and anything high profile seems to have gone tits up. Would you suggest we'll just wait till January to strengthen rather than going for our 99th choice target?

{Ed002's Note - The vast majority of the players "linked" with Liverpool has been as the result of people playing their fantasy football manager games or teasing from people on Twitter. I have spent the past nine months explaining the financial situation and what would be happening so that can hardly be a shock to anyone. There will remain a willingness fund and to bring players in at the right price. No one will be planning for transfers in the January window.}

22 Aug 2013 09:17:48
Tottenham are being very clever.

Consider this - they are going to build a new stadium which willl tie up funds for several years - ALA Arsenal. So their transfer dealings will be restricted.

They have an opprtunity right now to splash the cash based on Bale moving. This will enable them to create a team that can not only be a consistent top 4 finisher, but actually challenge for the title.

The players they have / will bring in will enable them to bridge the stadium build time, until they have free cash again.

Levy is a wise man it seems.

I think this is also one of the reasons they are paying 'full' asking prices for their targets to make sure they give themselves the required breathing time.

KBL

They have very good business for sure.

This is a Liverpool site

22 Aug 2013 09:05:51
Why are we getting so worked up about Spurs?
They are buying well but all these players are going to take time to Gel. I didn't see anything especially great about them at Palace.
We will bring a couple of good players in to add to those already here and are going to right up their in the top 6.
BR is buying particular players that specifically fit his system. Its not a question about money. Its the sum of all the parts that will make us successful.
Lets face it the mancs squad on paper doesn't look like they could run away with the league last year but the all fitted fergie's style of play. (Aside frim RVP I might add).
So whether its is Papa, Toby, Arda or another player we are after i'm sure it will be move us back to where we want to be.

Top 6? I stopped reading when I saw that

Your right if Rodgers had bought those players and we didn't beat stoke by 7. People would be after his head.

22 Aug 2013 08:34:29
Have a few thoughts I would like to share, I don`t believe there was ever going to be a "marquee" signing as there simply is no money available to make one. The reason I believe this is because last summerwe spent roughly £25 million on Borini and Allen, we then spent another £20 miliion on Coutinho and Sturridge in January. The money spent in January was this summers transfer fund and hence why we have only been able to spend money that has been generated by sales.

Also the 3 "marquee" signings that we have supposedly missed out on, well according to the clubs no formal bid was ever received for any of them from Liverpool. I believe there has been a lot of smoke and mirrors going on this summer to keep us fans happy. Now I know some will say how is missing out on targets keeping us happy but imagine the uproar if we were told 6 weeks ago that the 4 signings we made that was it, cissokho doesn't coun t really as he is a loan signing, which again tells you there is little or no money left because I can't remember the last loan signing we have made.

I hope I am wrong and we do get a couple of quality signings to improve the team.

Just wondering other people views on what I have said?

Nuri Sahin. Loan signing. last season

22 Aug 2013 08:27:36
Hello Eds do we have any interest in Evgen Konoplyanka? he is quality LW and young {Ed002's Note - Try the search engine please.}

22 Aug 2013 07:22:50
I am tired of reading all the doomsday negativety about us failing to sign marguee signings.We don`t need to rely on big signing to acheive our objectives, our players only need to gel as a team and play their part and our goals will be acheived.Spending obscene amounts of money will not help if the player does not mix well with the players we have.I am confident we will be in the champions league next season.Lets get behind the team and Brendan Rodgers and push them foreward.If all the fans stand up together and support the team going forward we can push for 3rd or even win the league.I for one don`t fear any team.Which ever player we get and have I will support the team no matter what.

On a side note I feel sorry for the eds who get all the the abuse from our so called supports.It makes me think how may of these are our supporters or other team supporters just trying to annoy us.

To all the eds keep up the goodwork.I check this site maybe 8 to 10 times a day


Ywna

22 Aug 2013 07:17:18
Getting near the end of the transfer window now, I'm seeing a few mentions of "cheeky bids", a few "marquee players", lots of "Its not fair Spurs took our player, waaah!" but no "smokescreens" every transfer window we get some smokescreens. I want to see some "smokescreens"!

22 Aug 2013 05:27:58
WHY OH WHY!

I don't understand the views of the fans criticising FSG & BR for not paying over inflated price's for players, it is sound business practice to work within a budget and not over spend on unproven EPL players. FSG have obviously thrown money at the squad previously and learnt from their mistake. BR does have funds available to spend but obviously he is looking to bring in specific types of players and will not pay over the odds.

We have improved the squad already with our additions and I am not saying we don't need additional players to further strengthen the squad but I would prefer to work within our budget and trust the club to do their job in bringing in the right players at the right price. We do not need mercenaries here for the money only!

We are not the only club looking to add to the squad and realistically clubs that are in the CL will attract the higher priced players, Point I said higher priced not better players as just because someone costs the earth it does not make them better for our club then say players of the price we paid for Sturridge/Coutinho. We are 1 week in to the season their is a long way to go and over the next few games we will see how far we have come as a squad, Villa proved they are a hard team to beat and then we have the Mancs, let's see where were at after the first month.

My firm belief is we are moving in the right direction but as I have said before this is a long road and fans will have to learn to be patient and trust in the management.

Just like Arsenal? No we don't want an Arsenal. We want trophies not profit.

22 Aug 2013 00:34:45
Will Hughes to sign for 10m and be loaned back to Darby for one season!

No please no {Ed002's Note - Even the youngsters getting put down by some fans before they. Pitiful.}

22 Aug 2013 10:04:37
10 mil seems a bit risky, but I think it's a risk I'd be willing to take

22 Aug 2013 02:42:30
Surely if Napoli are keen on Skrtel and we're looking for a goal scoring left forward then a swap deal involving Lorenzo Insigne would be a good option? Is there any possibility of this happening?

21 Aug 2013 23:37:46
Di Marzio says Lamela to spurs has been agreed. Levy is just providing a masterclass on how you spend money effectively.

I have to say, I am very disappointed Spurs have got Lamela. I was secretly hoping we would go for him. At 30 million Euros as Di Marzio says, he is cheaper than Willian!

21 Aug 2013 23:03:46
Hey eds, just wanted your ooinion on who is the better player konoplyanka or yarmolenko. Also, I appreciate you don't like to discuss finances, however do you know how much we may be able to.sign either for and is there any interest from us
Thanks {Ed002's Note - I am not going to try and compare players. There is plenty on both players already.}

Konoplayanka is the better player.

21 Aug 2013 23:12:22
I think all we need is a left sided attacking/forward player, defensive midfield cover for lucas, and perhaps another central defender.

Happy with the signings so far, i'm not too bothered about Willian not signing, as good as he is, I only think he would be signed if Suarez left. I think Luis will be staying for another season and then be off. we can then hopefully sign a marquee player next summer. At the moment we have Alan Hansen's favourite words 'strength in depth'.

Providing we stay injury free and are consistent, we can challenge for top 4. Lucas being injured at the start of last season cost us.

We need 3 players 2 of them are necessity.

1. a center back.

we need a strong imposing beast of a center back with speed.

right now I actually rate toure as our best cb (he looks too young and fast for his age, ), we need one more here

2. replacement/option for cautinho.

what if coutinho gets a knock? and add to that suarez suspended (he prefers suspension than injury )?
point is without suarez-coutinho all the flair and trickery is gone.

3. up grade on lucas.

instead of going for lamela or turan (wigers) what if a defensive destroyer in the mode of yaya toure-viera is signed? i'm not talking abt signing them but some one like them .

add these three and we have got a strong team.
we have lots of goals in us we need to tighten up the defense.

22 Aug 2013 09:54:30
I agree with you 12_ka_4 on the first point, but the point of this post is that I think that on Saturday, instead of watching the game, you need to concentrate wholly on Lucas, because that is the only way you'll realize that it isn't a replacement we need to make. Our play sets up around and quite often because of him. He very rarely chooses a wrong option whilst on the ball, but he also rarely gets caught out of position. He hassles and harries in such a way that it slows down opposition counter attacks, allowing our full-backs a chance to get back into position. He can push forward into the attack, or drop back into defense both easily and assuredly. Cover. yes (we don't look anywhere near as solid without him) but replacing? There aren't many out there who could pull that off.

21 Aug 2013 23:07:17
For those of you saying we have a chance to get 4th because we only play spurs twice a year you miss the point! It's not about those 2 games it's about the other 36 games where we need a squad strong enough to cope. Spurs were ahead of us and now bought 90m worth of players to our 23m. It actually makes it worse that Willian wanted to come to us and we wouldn't pay a extra 5m. If spurs get champions league because of it who's made the better decision! We are fighting for 5th and 6th at best because spurs have gone the extra mile to get the players they want

So we bid an extra 5m then Spurs top our bid, then what? Where do we stop. I think its sensible that the club have a certain valuation of a player in their heads and stop at that. I mean it was only a few years back we were facing administration.

Although I can't deny your point I think it is better to judge Liverpools form with Spurs or any other team from after Christmas. There is no doubt that we were a little light in players before Christmas. The same excuse cannot be used this year of course but Liverpools form post Christmas does give me a small bit of optimism for the coming season. Cheers.

The Irish Rover

Talk about myopic. Let's expand the discussion beyond this summer (which isn't over yet), shall we?


- LFC 13/14 season transfers (to date): £24.4M
- LFC 12/13 season transfers: £59.5M
- LFC 11/12 season transfers: £57.5M
- LFC 10/11 season transfers: £85.8M

Total over last 4 seasons of £227.2M spent on player transfer fees, net spend of £81.4M

- Spurs 13/14 season transfers (to date): £60.6M
- Spurs 12/13 season transfers: £64.5M
- Spurs 11/12 season transfers: £8.3M
- Spurs 10/11 season transfers: £22.9M

Total over last 4 seasons of £156.3M spent on player transfer fees, net spend of £32.8M.

If you include Willian/Lamela at let's say £30M each then they've spent ~£216.3M over the last four seasons and, say they then sell Bale for £80M, with a net spend of ~£12.8M.

So, to recap, LFC spent £227M, net spend of £81M. Spurs spent £216M over the same time frame, net spend of £13M. We've spent more than them over the last 4 seasons and our net spend is much higher than theirs thanks to the support of FSG, yet people complain it's not enough.

It's not the spend that's the issue, it's the quality the money was spent on was simply not there.

Semi-related trivia question just for kicks. From the 4 seasons above, we've only made £1M+ (fees paid vs. what we sold for) on three players that have left (all others have been losses or less than £1M made, more than a dozen people in this category). Guesses who they are?

Meanwhile Spurs somehow managed to buy a player and sell him back to the same club they bought him from for a £2M gain.

{Ed002's Note - Liverpool have also spent another £30M in agent fees alone in this period in addition to signing on fees (Toure, Cole ...), payments for players leaving (Aquilani, El Zhar, Degen ...) in addition to Solidarity contributions, taxes etc..}

A lot being said and made abt spurs spending. yup impressive.

but don't forget they r loosing bale, he's the reason they r at that position for last 2-3 years.

simple fact is, even if they r getting 100miln and bringing in 10 players, not many of them would score 25 goals and dozen assists. are they? not every one of them going to succeed and not every one of them going to play every match they can only field 11 players.

for eg. last year arsenal signed carzola, arteta, podlosky and rest. but barring carzola all the other buys were duds.

now I don't wanna say that every one of them would fail, they have bought class players but still loosing bale is too much of the loss for them.

abt world class players? well avb had many more like them at chevesky but it didn't worked .


we need to look abt our self more.

22 Aug 2013 09:59:39
They sold van persie who'd scored 30 goals for them that season, and then replaced him with Carzola podolski and giroud who each scored 10, replacing the 30 van persie scored. The problem was that if 30 goals from van persie wasn't enough to win them the league, how was the same 30 goals going to do anything for them the next season?

An excellent point Alvy!

Point is a new manager now not Kenny. He's gone bye bye. You have to support the new manager in the same capacity. It ain't happened. Bye FSG.

One advantage of a single player getting 30 is he only takes up one spot at a time and I assume wouldn't take as much as three wages. The risk being if he gets injured, there is a big gap where ss if you have three and one gets injured.

Andy K

Good post RDL. We are having to undo the mess of years gone by and it's expensive. Hopefully we now look for quality at the right price and promote youth.