Liverpool Banter Archive April 22 2013
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22 Apr 2013 23:16:37
Bah what a week to be a Liverpool fan. Suarez acts like a problem child, effectively ending any chance of his claim to Player of the year. He also gets a ban of at least 3 games for tasting ivanovic's arm and 1 game for 10 yellows if i'm correct?
Van Persie nets a hatrick putting him in the poll position for the golden boot and winning UTD the title.
We drop another 3 points needed to catch everton up which would at least show we are progressing from last season, which now with the absence of suarez will probably not happen (its more likely that we will slip down to 8th).
Love this club and wouldn't trade it for any other, but damn times are hard.
Times the 3 by itself then times it again
We didn't drop 3 points.
The hard time are the fun times :) Its all part of supporting a club. There will be bad days, there will be great days, head up and look forward.
BADGER
22 Apr 2013 23:03:39
havnt read all the posts today but I find it a little strange that the ref after being shown the mark on ivanovich"s arm took no action although he didn't see it happen its quite obvious when shown what had happened I mean the ref barely spoke to anyone about it and very strange again that there was no reaction from Chelsea players at all players create over slightest thing nowadays and for what luis did ud expect a full on brawl just find it all a bit bizzare and the manor of how it happened out of nothing, not one for all the conspiracy theories but something doesn't sit well with me over the whole incident
Makes you wonder if the ref 'didn't see it' on purpose, so the FA could dish out a larger punishment after the event!
I hate conspiracy theories, but. !
The ref can't send somebody off unless he was 100 percent sure I don't think Suarez managed to bite him very well (if that makes sense) there probaly was not much of a mark. although he denied seeing it in the post match interview I think Peter Chec reacted to it when he complained to the ref.
Even if the ref saw a mark, no official saw the incident and therefore no-one could give punishment. However, had Suarez been sent off, it does not mean that he would only be able to receive a 3 match ban - the punishment would be the same
This is the only issue I have with the incident - if the referee didn't see anything then what the hell was he talking to both players about immediately after the bite?
Take out the Suarez incident, I thought he was very, very poor, not long after LS got booked for deliberate handball I think Ramires or Mikel deliberately handled and got no yellow, and also deliberately pulling an opponent back is immediate yellow - again missed, not to mention the awful challenge by Sturridge (just to show I, not being biased)
22 Apr 2013 22:42:01
Ed1 mate if Suarez continues with his behaviour as we all know he won't change can the FA drive him out of the league despite Liverpool wanting him? {Ed001's Note - no.}
23 Apr 2013 01:03:58
Thanks ed1 mate, I thought after this incident if Suarez still continues with his behaviour, FA have got enough power to throw him out of League.
They won't anyway if suarez leaves then who would they have to make an example out of?
Not throw him out. But they can ban him for a very very long time. Which would effectively end his time here.
22 Apr 2013 22:54:17
Been told today that Liverpool are once again showing an interest in Honda. I doubt anything will materialise, we could have got him a few years back.
22 Apr 2013 22:53:15
Hi Eds, it's been said on here that if Suarez was sold, and only IF he was sold, then the club may look at Alexis Sanchez to replace Suarez. But if we're looking at the best possible replacement, with a realistic chance of attracting him, then Erik Lamela of Roma has to be the outstanding candidate. 14 goals in 26 games this season, good age of 21 (will improve more), a winger who'll eventually mature into a striker, and in my opinion the only obtainable player who can get anywhere near Suarez's level over the next 1 to 2 years.
I of course want to see Suarez here for years to come, but if he were to go then Lamela would be a great option, better than Sanchez. I know City are interested and he has expensive ownership issues, but (hypothetically) if we received big money for Suarez would Lamela become affordable and a realistic target? With money banked an unrealistic target can change to be a real option surely, and he could be interested, being young lad not after Champions League football immediately in his career. RC
Well said, erki lamela is a good target for the club.
Anonymous woolback
Lamela moved to roma with a big price tag of like 14m euros they would probably want 26-30m euros
22 Apr 2013 22:47:53
Looks like Van Persie is more hungrier for the golden boot than Suarez.
-JakeW
Why doesn't he bite it then? :)
Ahh yes Van Persie, the man with the golden elbows
22 Apr 2013 22:47:09
Evening All. My 2p worth.
Suarez has no respect for us supporters nor LFC. He only thinks of himself and does not deserve our support. All these excuses about Defoe and unfair treatment, I mean common people! Suarez is a diver, a racist, a cheat and bites people. This added to his shouting and insulting the ref and fellow players all game! He is a disgusting individual. Is winning at all cost worth selling your soul and bringing shame on your club/country/family?
I hear so many times that 'no player is bigger than the club' yet so many of you are making Suarez bigger than LFC. He will never stop with his nonsense and ruining our clubs name. If he stays you know there will be another incident in the near future. He is poison.
Next point, so what if we sell Suarez? You make out that we are doomed. We have him now and we are no where near top 4. Sell him, get as much as we can and buy a top quality CF to replace him and let's keep building with our quality youngsters coming through.
Lastly, as LFC supporters we really need to get rid of this us against the world mentality. The rest of the world is not 'out to get us'. Let's support our club and players, build up a strong team of exciting youngsters playing great football and get people talking about LFC for the right reasons again.
Look fwd to your responses.
If you hate Suarez so much I assume you do not celebrate when he scores?
I can see what you are saying and I cannot defend his antics but I care about the well-being of the club more than anyone player and at the end of the day were a stronger team with him than without him. Can you name me one player who gose through a whole season without arguing with a ref?. In the rasism case he was never given a fair trial they just said he was guilty without him even being there. yes he dives we can't say he don't but so do some of the worlds best players Bale, Ronaldo. The thing about unfair treatment dose have a case though why should Suarez get a lenthy ban and defo get away with a yellow?
And you my friend have never done anything stupid in your life, not ONCE OR TWICE, or is it you just didn't have a dozen cameras or the worlds media presant when u did, get a life, all this carp of rool models and such is B S, if I look back on my life i'm 55, I make saurez look like a saint.
martin p
Suarez is a great player but alas he needs to leave lfc as every thing we do is too high profile, I think certain persons have it in for us after our sucess with the hillsborough campaign ok suarez did a very bad thing no excuse but was it head line news, and we need players who can play all season not miss the amount of games louis missed last year and now the rest of this season and may be early games next season, I love his football but lfc strange as it is are more than a football team now.
Why is it that supporters like you always fall head over heals for these guys? Was the same with Torres. he loves the club, the fans, he'll never leave. blah blah blah.
Suarez has already been flirting with other clubs and has the clause in his contract at his own request to keep his options open.
Is it beyond the realms of possibility that the 'love bite' was a ploy for LFC to allow him to leave? He forced his way out of Ajax didn't he? Where he was club captain?
22 Apr 2013 22:32:38
I think everyone should just calm down and look at this from a birds eye point of view. Suarez did something disgusting, not to mention ridiculous. I will accept any punsihment the F. A choose to give, I would be disappointed if it is going to be more than 8 games but still, he should've thought.
On the other hand, I'd like to raise an issue I saw a fan speak of on a program. The tackle by young Mccarthy of Wigan was an extremely dangerous and potentially CAREER ENDING one. He was banned for 3 games. What I'm trying to raise a debate on is the number of games players are banned for their acts. It was stupid by Suarez, and by all means, punish him. But was that bite a career ending one? Was it one that drew blood? i'm not trying to make what he did seem small, just a genuine question.
Id like to add that Ivanovic dealt with the situation so well, I hold him in very high regard now. Even telling the police he does not want to pursue the bite any further after public complains commands nothing short of respect.
RedSox69
No comparison there I'm afraid, tackling even ones which are mis-timed or poorly judged will always be part of our game despite FIFA doing their best to dilute the art. Biting an opponent despite no provocation has no place in the game at all.
What about Rooneys elbow against Wigan? That went unpunished.
LOL that exactly wot u are doing, ure trying to brush of one incident by deflecting it on to mccarthy, players mis time challenges it bad they get a 3 game ban and deserved.
What Toothy did was totally disgusting and rightly is being condemed for it.
The real question you should asking yourselves is, is having Suarez with all his non control and continually bringing your once great clubs name through the mud or keeping him and all his baggage?
There's no conspiracy going on mate just the right course of action in dealing with something as disgraceful and disrespectful as what he done on sunday. Get over yourself.
Chris the REDman
You have a good point I can think of a few things I have seen on football pitches remember Dyer and Bowyer fighting when they both played for Newcastle they got 3 match bans each I think and throwing punches at eachother has to be worse than a bite which didn't really appear to hurt ivanovic.
I agree with Red Sox no he's not trying to defect it by using McCarthy he's trying to make a point. Suarez deserves a 3 match ban Christ it's not the end of the world don't bash me about image of the club I no he's damaging it, so let's go another route by sacking him who in the club has the balls to do it or can do it (by the way I don't want him to go). He can only help himself he needs counselling.
22 Apr 2013 22:17:49
I know after this whole Suarez situation a lot of people are saying he has anger issues and he needs help and there is talk of him going to anger management classes, but didn't Brendan Rodgers get Dr. Steve Peters in a while a go? The sports psychologist that apparently revolutionised British cycling, has he started working with the club yet? If so surely he should have already identified this as a problem and been helping Suarez? Would appreciate the eds shedding some light on his role. Just to also throw my opinion out there I hope Suarez stays what he did was a disgrace to the club but we can't turn our backs on him and let him walk alone. Cheers
He can only help people who agree to see him.
22 Apr 2013 22:02:12
Hopefully the FA come to a conclusion later tonight or early this morning. I have a strange feeling he'll get away with a 5 match ban, and I personally think a 10-12 match ban is a bit much. I know what he did was vile but not worthy of that big a ban. 5-7 matches seems about right. The sooner this is dealt with the better. Let's hope Suarez accepts his punishment and this case is dead and buried as soon as possible.
Cheers,
LS7.
Take the anger out of Saurez he will become half the player. You watch that happen.
22 Apr 2013 21:47:09
Haven't taken the time to read every thread posted today so no doubt some of the sentiments I relay will repeat.
The FA have decided on putting together a Press Release on this transgression - the only charge they can find is "Violent Conduct" but they feel this offence is worse than others.
Why? Did that bite mean the Chelsea player's career was at danger a la Alf ing Haaland's assualt by another player.
Why? Did they think it called into repute the game so much more than a player physically assualting a fan?
I think it was reprehensible, and the standard 3 match ban for unwarrented violent conduct fits the case, and Liverpool's fine shows a similar resolve.
But Suarez isn't a case that's ever going to be tried fairly, if Richie Lambert bit someone last week the world wouldn't know, if Grant Holt dropped from a trailling leg the world won't want to know.
I'm going to keep supporting Luis, I'm embarrassed by some of the dives, I'm upset by celebrating a missed penalty he set up, but I respect his desire to win and if I was blessed with 1/16 of his quality I'd do the same to win - glad there's not so much media on me.
My lift for work was late this morning so I browsed the papers in the paper shop for reaction to what LS did. The ran 5 pages, (only ran 3 on the first day of the Boston Bombing) I didn't read what they said but can only guess they crucified him. The mirror had a photo on the front of someone's arm supposedly that of the injured party, there was a red mark below the elbow joint supposedly that of LS teeth marks. If LS made that mark he would have had to be inside the arm not outside it.
I doubt if there much mention of what LFC are going to do Grahame Souness's comments are more important to them
Whilst I competely condemn his actions this vile so called reporting has always gone to far in regards to LFC.
Muggers killers rapists, in fact most criminals don't get such savage press as this.
I think LS needs some sort of councilling, he has a real health problem that with the right sort of help could be sorted out.
I hope the media don't stir up the FA to the extent that LS's punishment is out of all proportion to what he has done. don't hold your breath though
Bobbinred
22 Apr 2013 21:42:07
Respect and congratulations to Man U. They are the benchmark to which we and others need to judge against. Just like we dominated football for20 years in the 70s and 80s, they have dominated since then.
In a strange sort of way I'd rather them win it than Chelski or City. These financially fabricated sides are not good for the game.
De gea 20 million, rafael how much? 12 million? Phil Jones 20 million, anderson 20 + million, RVP, 25 million, rooney 30 million, valencia, so on and so forth
so don't give me that
And Howard Webb :)
I'm definitely not a United fan but you are out of order mentioning players they have bought and their transfer fees when comparing them to Chelsea and City.
United have generated their own cash through gate receipts, merchandising and sponsorship etc. That is what every club strives to do and is how a club should be run. Chelsea and City were going nowhere until rich owners came in and flooded them with money.
That's why I think Financial Fair Play rules are important and must be stringently enforced. Rich owners coming in and buying every decent player under the sun will kill football in the long run. Think of a team that has been growing gradually over a number of years, increasing gates, improving marketing, getting new sponsors and using it to rebuild the team to improve their position and move up the league. Then, a team comes from nowhere and puts them back at square one, just because a rich businessman fancied a new toy.
So, United have earned the money and have the right to spend big when the need arises. That's why I hope Liverpool get a move on with rebuilding the stadium so we can improve and compete. That's the way I'd rather do it than a mega rich owner coming in. Actually, that's one of the reasons we have now lost out top 4 place, as 2 clubs have bought their way into there.
redmersey
22 Apr 2013 23:16:17
Anderson 25m, Young 18m, Valencia 18m, Ferdinand 32m, Berbatov 35, etc.
35 mil for Andy! C'mon. Its not just about how much you spend, more who you buy.
Congratulations to them persons? You having a laugh!
Rafael signed as a 15year old along with his twin, fabio, 12mil would be a very expensive 15yo, whatsnitnrafa says, fact!
Redmersey congratulations on a decent reply, you must feel like you are out in the wilderness
23 Apr 2013 01:16:21
It doesn't matter how much they generate, the question is do they spend big the answer is YES!
Ferdinand-32M
Berbatov-35M
Degea-20M
Young-18M
Persie-25M-
Rooney-30M
Carrick-18M
Jones-20M
Anderson- 20M
I can go on and on just see their squad and see for what amount they were bought and how much wages they get, its same as chelsea or city or anyother club who wants to win trophs.
Jealousy is a wondrous thing.
Reading some of these posts reminds me how bitter Manc fans were when we ruled, and how we used to laught at them.
Let's remember how it all started. The EPL began and the management of Manchester United embraced it and saw massive opportunities, we stuck our heads in the sand and continued as if the local butcher round the corner could own and run a top class English side (exaggeration for effect)
We were the top side and we let it go, poor decision after poor decision followed and whilst Utd were settled (until involvement of Glazers and debt on the club) we went from management crisis to management crisis and we missed the boat and have been playing catch up ever since.
I go back to my first point, our fans used to be the most respected in the country, and we were rightly praised for showing grariousness in defeat and applauding the achievement of others - now we have fallen off our perch we've turned into a red version of the Bitters.
sad.
22 Apr 2013 21:33:15
Whatever punishment Suarez gets we should count ourselves lucky its football and the feeble FA. If this was rugby your looking at atleast 6 months out and Boxing they ban you for life for biting.
Does make you think though, how can football hope to stamp this behaviour out when the punishments are so lenient. (Not just talking about Suarez - i'm a Toon fan and can't believe Mcmanaman gets away without retrospective action)
It depends who you are and what club you play for
Bobbinred
Thats funny, because there was a bite in rugby last year and the player was suspended for 8 weeks.
22 Apr 2013 21:18:19
Hi Eds, just a point of enquiry really, hypothetically, if the ban given to Suarez in the Eridivise for his previous bite is replicated to seven matches (or the end of the season) is repeated, do these matches carry over into the start of next season? I mean that would start us in completely different stead for the rest of the season and may murder any momentum we could gather for the CL? Hope Suarez doesn't leave, but if he does; how much is concrete about us watching Burak Yilmaz of Galtasaray? Experienced and a goalscorer. ? {Ed001's Note - yes and I don't know sorry.}
22 Apr 2013 21:15:59
Hopefully some good comes of luis suarez's evil like not loosen him at the end of the season!
22 Apr 2013 21:08:36
And yet again a Suarez case blown WAY out of proportion. He bit someone. Ban him, fine him and MOVE THE HELL ON. Some people asking to sack him?! Seriously?! Some people comparing him to Mike Tyson? Jeff Powell from the Daily Fail even going so far as to say he deserves a worse punishment than Tyson? In no way do I condone his stupid actions, but leave it to the British media to take a silly incident to a whole new level of stupidity.
Ed002 I know you are making your views on the incident clear and crisp, but even you must admit it has been blown out of proportion.
Now, hopefully we can talk about FOOTBALL. Seeing as though Suarez is probably being banned for the rest of the season, who do we think will step in for him. Obvious change is Sturridge for Suarez, but then who takes his place on the bench? Borini? (If he is back from injury), Jack Dunn? Adam Morgan? Ibe? Jerome Sinclair?
Whoever is on the bench it will be an interesting line up on Saturday.
AsianRed
I think they will go to town on this and don't think he will play before November 2013, be something silly like 5 months you watch
I hope any ban is in context. A very dangerous tackle is potentially career threatening and we rarely see more than a 3 game ban. He's done something silly, Any ban should not have to impact on next season too (4 or 5 games is enough).
However, the press have gone berserk and I hope the FA do not react to this
G
22 Apr 2013 21:02:00
i do think suarez will be looking at a minimum of a 10 game ban. 8 games for verbal abuse so it is going to be more for physical.
dont want him to go but I do feel he will do something crazy again, what happens then his value will drop and lfc will have no option but to sell.
It was the nature of the verbal abuse and the fact it was repeated more than once that it amounted to an 8 game ban.
I can see him getting 4 or 5 matches.
MIKEY
22 Apr 2013 21:00:15
Manchester United out to win there 20th title. Liverpool out to defend there star player for the 20th time. Vantastic. Have a nice week folks
Perth!
Another local UTD fan I see.
22 Apr 2013 20:57:48
The problem with suarez leaving isn't the goals he's been scoring, that have carried the team throughout the season. We had it easy when torres, owen, keegan left because you just go out and by another model centre forward and hey presto, the goals are back.
Suarez is different. What makes suarez so special is his genius, his movement, his ability to play and score from anywhere on the park. The only player on the planet at the moment remotly like suarez is messi, such is his playing style.
Suarez is a completely different player than torres or owen, he is not a centre forward, he is like dalglish and can play just about anywhre.
Luis suarez brings so much more to his game than goals. He is unique, one of a kind, and that is why we will miss him.
Anonymous woolback
Tevez is similar as well, but not quite as good.
MIKEY
Woolback m8. we won't miss him. Because He ain't going nowhere.
We just can't get enough
We just can't get enough.
He scores a goal and the kop goes wild,
But I just can't seem to get enough. x
Phooey
22 Apr 2013 20:51:42
bang goes the top goal scorer to this week just gets worse
mike
22 Apr 2013 20:45:51
There goes nippy's golden boot ;)
Disney!
At least you have finished your little Suarez jig to write on here tonight. I heard you performed well Disney.
The vote has already been made, Disney.
Do you think if Suarez were to win the PFA would strip him of it?
Phooey.
22 Apr 2013 20:39:55
Its embarrassing what Suarez did yesterday but i'm far from convinced that it shames Liverpool as a football club as much as some in the media would have us believe.
Not fining him and appealing the F. A. 's future punishment would shame us but the fact is we've fined him and publicly stated our disapproval of what happened.
The model to handle this situation is how Man United handled the Cantona incident.
IncaMan
22 Apr 2013 20:38:00
It really sits uneasy with me when it's blatant that one player is treated completely different to everyone else. I agree suarez should be punished, but the hate towards him from the media is cringe worthy. when he dives he's a foreigner ruining our game, yet players like bale have the media making every excuse for them. I've seen player this season trying to head butt oppents yet very little is said and done about it. why do the the media and everyone else come crawling out the woodwork when it's suarez, but turn a blind eye to others antics. we're suppose to live in a free and fair society, but that's evidently not the case it's nothing but bullying.
Man Utd banned Cantona for 4 months after that fan Innocent, somehow I can't see Liverpool having the balls to do the same.
22 Apr 2013 20:34:51
Greetings Eds & all,
Not been on for a while but thought I would give my 10 pence worth.
1. Suarez has got issues, so did Maradonna, Gazza, Garrincha & Best.
2. There is a precident, Defoe incident which resulted in 3 games & Suarez @Ajax which was 7 games. Suarez will get more this time because of who he is & his rep.
3. Aldo has a point Ajax fans although huge fans of Suarez, questioned whether the timing his bite on a player was significant ( last game I believe)
4. I believe this time the club has got it right, Suarez let himself & the club down and deserves punishment BUT that does not affect his place at the club any more than any other Red card offence.
My 10 pence worth is that, Suarez is one of the top 3 players in the world, he is under a microscope so of course there will be a massive over reaction. I have to say there is no point crying about it we have to take the bad medicine & move on. Kenny stuck by Suarez blindly and look what that did to his & the clubs reputation.
Suarez is truly great but still needs to learn that to achieve legendary status he needs to continue learning and by the looks of it he will.
kobi
22 Apr 2013 20:34:11
now on a serious note I know Macca said rodgers will be here next season but that was before the upcoming suarez ban we know how much we rely on him we can't win a cup and are seventh if we finish below that its a worse season than last we play better football at times but its not totally effective could there be another review.
i don't think sacking him will do any good as its start all over again and who would want to come but I do hope he's learning along the way and will add different options to the team height power strength but fear he wont
22 Apr 2013 20:26:11
Golly the Brits have become sanctimonious in recent years.
All the well-cited incidents below, and this latest, merely serve to add colour to the game.
He didn't draw blood - Ivanovic clearly aggravated him somehow: let's move on.
Don't succumb to the media and rival club pressure to sell this supremely talented footballer. By all means work with him to temper some of his more extreme behaviour, but you'll live to regret Suarez on another side in future.
;0)
22 Apr 2013 20:26:09
edi can see your getting wound up abit tonight my question is wats the difference when some one diliberatly goes over the ball with a leg breaking challenge or a two footed stamp all these get 3 games some none even when they are investigated now don't get me wrong it was descusting what he did but are they any different really?
mike {Ed001's Note - doesn't that just mean we should clamp down harder on those as well? Only any punishment Suarez gets, he deserves, it was a pathetic and ridiculous thing to do!}
I agree ed, it's not his first offence. He's a twonk!
I can see what your saying edd but nothing is done about those takles and stamps when everyone can see they are ment to it just seems its always us to be made an example of
mike
22 Apr 2013 13:52:31
Having a little trouble logging on with my user name and password!
Little help Eds?
DevaredJay
{Ed033's Note - What happens when you type in your user name and password on the login page?
22 Apr 2013 20:37:53
Has anyone seen Gary Neville's comments on Suarez's biting incident? I hated this man as a player, despised him, but as a pundit, there is no man better. The amount of respect I have for him, the words he said, they were absolutely fantastic.
Gary Neville's comments on Suarez's biting incident
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC7Q-rR-l4Y
Must watch as I said, fantastic punditry, good on him. Respect over the roof.
RenegadeRed
Crikey. I bet Fergie loves ths common sense Approach by one of his ex players. Agree totally with the guy!
All you so called fans should watch this. Talks so much sense and you can go on about hating him but he's actually talked about suarez in a more decent way then you lot have.
London red
I am a Utd fan shows what a big man Nevs is tbh, I don't agree with him but there's no doubt he's best pundit in the country
22 Apr 2013 20:20:41
Hello everybody
I just wanted to say what Suarez did yesterday was wrong and there's no getting away from it. But what I find strange is how the British media treating him its unacceptable, killers get treated with more respect.
People need to remember Joey Barton's punishment last season.
Joey Barton's ban last season included 2 counts of violent conduct plus his dismissal resulting in 12 games, mandatory 3 match ban but surely Suarez can't get a bigger ban than Joey!
Theba300
22 Apr 2013 20:05:53
Hi Ed,
Do you think with the whole incident with Luis yesterday he would be sold. I cannot see the club putting up with anymore of his behaviour.
Hopefully Macca can give us some insight as well.
Nash
22 Apr 2013 20:17:30
To the EDs
When is Borini back from injury?
Because, when Suarez get's his ban (which will likely be lengthy), if this coincides with Borini's return the kid will surely get a glorious chance to show us all what he is capable of
I Love the majority of what I have seen from him when he has managed to play, his work rate and movement have been superb at times. Admittedly he very much went off the boil and injuries haven't helped but hopefully in Borini's personal ambition to prove himself, Suarez's ban may come as a small blessing to Borini and other players such as Suso pushing for a spot.
Thoughts anyone? {Ed001's Note - not this season mate.}
There's a reason why Chelsea let Borini go on a free.
22 Apr 2013 20:17:16
I'm all for suarez being punished, as long as the same rules apply to everyone else. It's going to be interesting next time a similar offence is committed to see if the fa take the same action as there about to take against suarez.
Not many similar incidents likely unless Hannibal Lecter takes up soccer?
Yeah because biting in the premier league happens all the time.
The lad is a cheat and that's the hard to swallow simple truth of the matter.
Its the second time in his career he has bitten someone yeah that's right bitten someone. Is he a toddler? I genuinely think he may be slightly 'special' on and off the pitch.
22 Apr 2013 20:16:14
Gary Neville is IMO the best pundit on TV. He talks so much sense and is spot on in his analysis of the Suarez situation.
What did he say?
I agree with you there mate, as many of us do.
DaveyBootle
The man is superb! He never a goes with the flow and always puts it as if he was involved.
22 Apr 2013 20:12:40
Been a hectic day for Liverpool and the saga should continue for a while.
sigh.
but you know what? I wouldn't swap it for the world.
Suarez was wrong, he should get banned and suitably punished and it has damaged the club.
But being honest I don't think I'd rather support any other club than LFC even off the back of this
We've had our ups and downs. and this is another down.
But We'll Never Walk Alone and we will re-right the wrongs in the process
staying strong
22 Apr 2013 20:12:04
Ed quick one for you mate. In your opinion what do you think suarez will get in terms of a ban. Are we talking 4-6 games or something much longer?
I know you've not got a crystal ball but what will the FA be vying for
I'll go on record saying the guys a clown. Pure quality with a ball but a complete muppit off it. He's like a elf animal! {Ed001's Note - I would think 4-6 games, most likely 6.}
So what the fa are saying is that elbows and headbutts are less serious even though they can brake a players jaw and have them out for weeks LS next time u have a melt down m8 just drop kick some player u will get less time ffs ed for me it is just a red card 3 game ban and forced to get help for his temper
22 Apr 2013 20:10:51
I can't get over how many people seem to put the entire future of Liverpool FC in the balance should suarez leave.
We won a damn sight more without him then we have with him.
He may have left this summer regardless of yesterday's events, we will never know but what we do know is better players then him have left us in the past and were still here still fighting.
We won 5 European Cups without Luis Suarez we will win other trophys without him in the future I'm sure.
If he is the be all and end all of this great club then Bill Shankly will be turning in his grave. May god bless his soul.
Suarez has been great but he's not a legend yet.
22 Apr 2013 19:58:43
from what I was told ivanovic was complaining about a bee sting suarez was only trying to suck the sting out u should'nt have bothered suarez mick {Ed002's Note - Just the same last year when he fucked up the reputation of Kenny Dalglish and remarkably few saw that. I may have not of had the best of relationships with the likes of Waro but I give him top marks for the support he gives the club and for distinguishing right from wrong in such matters as this. Sometimes you folks need to step back.}
It is disgusting and disgraceful, I couldn't agree more I dispise the fact that Suarez has acted as he has. Fans rightly want to know why the FA choose to punish him more for what looks, on the outside, like the same offense.
Rushie was ace
22 Apr 2013 20:30:06
Spot on ed2 that kind of behaviour is not allowed in any sport forget footy or Liverpool, Suarez has crosed all lines and now FA needs to punish him hard that next time he should think atleast twice to act as jerk, very shame and embarrassing how can any player stoop so low!
Gerrard.
When Suarez refused to shake Evra's hand at Old Trafford last season, and made Kenny look a tit in the process, I lost a lot of respect for him, he put himself before the club that day, and he did it again yesterday. I wouldn't have minded to have seen the back of him last Summer after that, I remember saying on here that I would have took Juve's offer and moved on. Players are easilly replaced, and one man doesn't make a football club. However, he is clearly our best player, and this season he has been brilliant. Which clouds people views on such issues Ed, look at Tevez and the City fans. I felt sorry for Kenny last year, the way the club made him deal with it on his own, offering no support or guidance was horrific to watch. The owners or Ayre should have stepped in, but they let him die on his arse basically. Kenny had supported Suarez so much, and for him to do what he did at Old Trafford ruined it for me. But it isn't just Kenny he has made a show off, it is fans like me who have defended him to the hilt, only for him to embarrass us again. He is dragging our name through the mud, and whilst I still think there has been a massive overreaction to this incident, he gave the press a chance to do it. The club needs to grow a pair and punish him. There can be no doubt about how good he is at football, but he is a joke at times.
JFT96
Smithy
22 Apr 2013 19:50:47
Personal view on suarez:
Guys we need to stop giving him too much support. We're acting like he is Liverpool fc, no player is bigger then the club. Yes he is good and gets the goals and has a funny side to him. Biting and racial abuse is out of order. Sell him for 40 mill and get 2 strikers to replace him. Liverpool fc rep is on the line because of his stupid attitude.
It's definitely one rule for suarez another for everyone else. Like when he dives it's all over the media, yet players like bale are excused. suarez doesn't do himself any favourite, but the media's treatment of him is absolutely disgusting.
22 Apr 2013 20:25:16
Fergie & the british media want Suarez out, fact they'll do everything they can to push him out. If he played for Manchester United he would be called the angel of Manchester!
Theba300
Like his treatment of fellow professionals you mean?
22 Apr 2013 19:50:22
What Suarez has done is disgraceful however don't quite understand why ed002 is so defensive about the FA?
People are rightly going to ask questions as to why Suarez is punished way beyond others who have commited the same offences.
Rushie was ace {Ed002's Note - That is almost certainly something you can grizzle, whine and bitch about even more about on Thursday morning. Until you can separate unrelated events in your mind, the world will be full of things you will simply not be able to comprehend.}
22 Apr 2013 19:39:05
What if Liverpool sell players like:
Suarez for £40 million
Caroll for £10/£15 million
Henderson for £10 million
Downing for £10 million
That brings in atleast £70 million + £30 million from the club itself and you've got £100m.
Than buy:
Jackson Martinez and James Rodriguez (both Porto) for £60 million
Eriksen or Fischer (both Ajax) for £12 million
De Vrij (Feyenoord) for £8 million
Lewandowski (Dortmund) £20 million
Would that not be a good option? {Ed002's Note - Sounds like you have a plan.}
Should try and become our manager mate!
Eriksen 12? he's more than that.
fischer 12? he's not that much
And start them all they will click straight away
Fsg only have 29 1/2 million to give rodgers
Fischer is easily a better prospect than eriksen
22 Apr 2013 19:38:52
If it was anyone else 1 match ban and possibly a fine. Luis Suarez does it and the world wants to see the death penalty. Far from excusing what he did, there is no place in football for that. But seriously he is being made an example of Defoe and Terry incidents the same, yet Suarez gets a bigger punishment. I would even say Defoe bite is even worse as he's got up crawled towards and then bit. Also find it class how Tyson now follows him on twitter {Ed002's Note - Do you realise how embarrassing this sort of post is?}
How's it embarrassing? Stating the obvious that his punishment tends to be far worse than others. It's only on the football pitch he's a tit. It's not like he shot a student with an air rifle at the training ground. {Ed002's Note - Thursday will be a great day to bitch about the horror of it all.}
Ed2 clearly hates Suarez and would love to see him go just like any other team supporter. can't blame him though. We have one of the best players in the world that most teams fear any would love to have so they will bash him every opportunity they get and since Suarez does have a wild reputation they all call for his head and have a field day whenever he does something as stupid as this. Suarez needs to sort his mental side this summer, another dumb act and he will go for sure, but i'm positive that he will be back even a stronger player for us next season and will shut all those people. Its do or die for him this time. {Ed002's Note - I rather think if you read through the posts since Suarez arrived I have been entirely rationale with my thoughts and he has lived up to his predicted behavior. I have been reasonable - and he fucked up Kenny. Who is it you are blaming?}
22 Apr 2013 19:45:48
Have any of our sponsors pulled out? have tickets been sent back en mass in Australia or Thailand? have any of you who want Suarez gone gave your season tickets up? the answer to all these is a big fat no. He has been punished by LFC&FA and rightly so, so let us forgive and forget an move on. don't fall for manc&london media hysteria who hate us. Be careful what you wish for as fighting for relegation will damage our worldwide reputation.
He could play for any club in the top flight and would get the same amount of press coverage because A) he is world class and B) he gets involved in some incredibly stupid situations. I'm sure we could all admit he has gotten away with some pretty dodgy incidents this season. Maybe the ban will do him good and give him time to reflect and change (though I doubt it).
And then what happens next time? Cause there will be a next time with that muppet! U can bet on that.
Get rid
22 Apr 2013 19:34:55
Have to say Sturridge was excellent yesterday. Chelsea must be kicking themselves that they let him go, especially when they see what a shell of a player Torres has become in comparison. {Ed002's Note - No, Chelsea have moved on from Sturridge.}
I'd take sturridge over torres any day. It's very strange to witness the decline of the once great el ninio
It's was a bad move by them alright avb was the only one to give him a shot to be fair
Sturridge is better than torres and bale, I'd say they've gone backwards.
Ed002 oh yes demba ba is moving on is it! {Ed002's Note - Try not to be more embarrassing than anyone else.}
Sturridge was always going to play well against his former side, you will be lucky to get those performances out of him five times a season.
That is why Chelsea let him go, they also have Falcao and Schurrle in their sights, far far far better players than Sturridge i'm sure you'd agree?
If United had £15m+ to burn on a player, I would be disappointed if it was Sturridge.
Disney!
I will try, if you try to be objective and not look at your front two with rosé tinted glasses {Ed002's Note - I'll try not to.}
Do me a favour Ed002! You are deluded if you think that a Torres / Ba combo is better than Sturridge / Ba. Torres is finished! Even the hardened Chelsea fan's would accept that. You've missed a trick by selling Sturridge. {Ed002's Note - It must be desparate for you to have to sit and read my biased ramblings without proving to be an embarrassment. A simple question, when you stand up is there a damp spot underneath?}
22 Apr 2013 19:31:05
Defoe bite was exactly the same thing, watch it on youtube! Inexscusable what Suarez did but he will be punished way beyond his peers likebefore with John Terry.
Rushie was ace {Ed002's Note - Did Defoe use his tongue in the same way as I hear Suarez did?}
Have you asked Macherano ed?
Rushie was ace {Ed002's Note - I did and he said he had that amazing side-toside movement that used to get Ed007 off when we made a couple of soft porn films together back in the 70s.}
Suarez definitely deserves to be punished, but it's not fair that he's always made an example of, when other players would and have gotten away with similar offences. {Ed002's Note - It's not like he repeatedly offends and makes a jerk of himself and embarrasses the club.}
They would make him captain at Chelsea ed002!.
What like john terry ed {Ed002's Note - I have no idea. I remain astonished that folks see Wayne Bridge or his old old lady as suffering when Mr Terry's wife was the one who needed the apology.}
22 Apr 2013 19:07:56
The incompetent FA are seriously going to make an example of suarez, I'm fearing 6 game ban. the media are whipping up a storm against luis due to there blatant dislike of the guy. yes what he did has no place in football but there has been a lot worse things done on a football pitch. fellaini against shawcross is a prime example, surely that was a he'll of a lot worse. The FA are pick and choose who to punish and who they let off, there double standards are despicable. {Ed002's Note - How are the FA incompetent. The media would not have any storm to whip up if Suarez did not repeatedly do dumb stuff. What has happened is nothing to do with any Everton or Stoke players - this is exactly the sort of view that makes the fans a laughing stock in the eyes of other fans. Just accept it was wrong and be done - don't whine and grizzle.}
22 Apr 2013 19:06:36
Suarez deserves to be punished, but anymore than 3 games would be pathetic I think. Defoe escaped further punishment from the FA as they didn'y see the circumstance to be "exceptional". However, they believe Suarez deserves more than the standard 3 games for an almost identical incident. His reputation is playing a massive part in this.
JFT96
Smithy {Ed002's Note - It is nothing whatsoever to do with Defoe. I would certainly not hold your breath for a three game ban.}
It has everything to do with Defoe Ed. He got a two match ban for exactly the same thing.
Rushie was ace {Ed002's Note - See it for what it is. My prediction is that by Thursday there will be a situation to grizzle about - to really get your teeth in to, so to speak.}
I know that the Suarez case has nothing to do with Defoe Ed, but the point remains that the FA's stance on both appears to me to be contradictory. The Defoe case is the only similar case to the Suarez one that we have seen in this country, and that is why they are being compared. I think he will get 5-7 games myself.
JFT96
Smithy
Eds, was there any action taken over Steve Bennett's (I think) application of the rules re Defoe? I totally understand that for Defoe their hands were tied, Suarezor that Suarez deserves But had Kevin Friend given Suarez a yellow I'd just fail to see how that'd be enough. But for Defoe it was. My point is, if he sees that and doesn't produce a red, surely he's benched for a game or two. If Bennett faced action, then fair enough. I know it makes no odds here. Bit it might stop a few conspiracy theorists. Ta {Ed002's Note - IT is nothing to do with what went before with other players. It stands on its own and will be considered accordingly.}
I agree that we wouldn't have to question the FA if Suarez behaved but Grizzle, whine, you can label it what you will Ed002 it won't undermine my point the FA punishment should be consistent.
Rushie was ace {Ed002's Note - It will be dealt with on a case-by-case basis with no consideration given to examples you may wish to call out. As far as I can tell, he is going to have his pee-pee whacked big time over this.}
Difference between the Suarez and Defoe case is that the ref dealt with Defoe during the game and therefore are not allowed to get involved. Stop trying to defend the guy, he is a disgrace to lfc and if it was a player from another team your reaction would be the complete opposite.
Just because he's a world class player doesn't mean the rules should be different. Also he's not being targeted by anybody he just gives people reason to critisise him!
Ed002, could you please explain how the two are different and then I will be able to put this to bed.
Rushie was ace {Ed002's Note - Each matter is dealt with separately - in teh case of Defoe the ref took action. In the case of Suarez, a DF did something stupid yet again. There is little point in asking me as I am biased toward the club who has had it's reputation dragged through the mud by Suarez, a club who has had one of the "all time greats" embarrassed and forced to lose his job because of Suarez. A club that is fighting to come back from the damage done by owners etc. over the years but is repeatedly having to fix issues caused by a player who is dumber than a box of rocks. You will never see what damage he continues to do whilst you value him and the defence of him above the club and the likes of Kenny Dalglish who did make the ultimate sacrifice for him.}
Understood Ed. Suarez is an person, like lots of players unfortunately.
We all dream of a team of Carraghers!
Rushie was ace
22 Apr 2013 18:37:00
I'm an everton fan and all you who are saying sell him why would you want to do that he's the 3rd best player in the world he's young and he works so hard for Liverpool yeah he's a nutter but all the world class players have that streak about them at least he's not like Ronaldo stuck up his own behind. Not one defender would like to play against Suarez and even now after what happened they will try to wind him up equaling more free kicks and penaltys to Liverpool
Coyb
Ye mate Messi and Ronaldo bite players aswell spot on there oh ye twice they did it and racially abuse players could not agree more. oh and don't forget they drag there club name through the gutter aswell.
22 Apr 2013 18:36:39
Suarez inexcuseable what he has done but we should not get rid. If we want to climb the table he is pivotal! And all this about bad publicity and our sponsors, this situation has attracted people from everywhere so that must be good for sponsors. I Know tht sounds crazy but I can't see anyone going to standard chartered and withdrawing their bank account because suarez has bitten someone.
Disagree. Sell and buy a player that understands what it means to play for our great club. We are nowhere near top4 with Suarez, so what diff does it make?
Chuck Norris
22 Apr 2013 18:30:06
London Red, are you serious, gimme a break. You talk about loyalty? What about Suarez's loyalty?
Look how the club defended him last year after the Evra incident, the manager stuck his neck on the line for him, players and fans alike defend him time and time again and frankly it gets slightly more and more embarrassing for our great club.
And now this, (he tried to take a bite out of someone on the pitch for gods sake) he's made our club look bad, tarnished Liverpool FC's reputation and made all us fans look like persons for defending him time and time again.
And here's you trying to justify it, writing nonsense about the fans showing no loyalty, jog on mate
Kelly Red
Suarez loyalty? The fact that he has stuck with us last season even though he could of easily left and before this incident he said he wants to stay with us.
Not going to much into the evra thing but personally I don't believe he is racist and he deserved to get the backing of the club and us at that time.
And how has he tarnished our reputation? I'm sorry but what more can the club do then do what they have done? How can the club possibly be at fault for his actions? I've seen obviously experts say it's bad for the reputation but I really can't understand why if Liverpool as a club haven't don't anything wrong.
I'm not trying to justify him biting anyone because no one can it was stupid but how quickly fans can turn on a player who has been such a great player for us.
So you jog on mate you need to chill out. The guy obviously has issues and on the pitch he's a complete person but if he gets help we as fans should stick behind him.
London red
He has no respect for the fans or LFC. You lot are always harping on about that no player is bigger than the club. so why you making out Suarez is?
Get rid
22 Apr 2013 18:28:05
ed, when will we know how long suarez ban be? {Ed002's Note - Probably Wednesday, perhaps Thursday.}
22 Apr 2013 18:18:20
What did I say - the wolves are baying out for his blood.
Put this into perspective - he bit a player - end of.
Yes not particularly pleasant - but with his teeth he could've done a lot more damage!
Ban, punish and get him some anger management.
He hasn't broken anyone's leg, he hasn't ended anyone's career.
What he is guilty of is common assault - not GBH nor ABH.
The media are hyping this up and whipping up a hysteria against him.
He is one of ours - and whilst we can't defend his actions, we need to to stand by our player!
M
Well said m, it will all blow over
Blimey got talk sh--te on stan reckons he's suffering from ADHT and he's a mental case god they destroying him on all fronts they baying for blood I remember gazza going in and doing a bad tackle so did keane defoe bit masherano no whitch hunt on them they really going for him big time
Rooney ran up behind a player in an International game and kicked him.
The FA got his ban reduced from 3 to 2, is what LS done any worse
Bobbinred
22 Apr 2013 18:14:41
I must say in the wake of all of this that the club have handled it brilliantly. I also have to give Rafael Benitez and Branislav Ivanovic a massive shout out as they decided not to lead the witch hunt against Luis Suarez. I really hope that Suarez receives a significant fine for his actions. I still hope we will stick by him. YNWA anyone? The club now will give him some sort of psychology classes. Hopefully this can be the catalyst for the emergence of a new and improved Luis Suarez.
derryred
Totally agree. Chelsea FC and Ivanovic have acted admirably and with great dignity. I can think of other clubs/managers that would have been instigating a witch hunt.
22 Apr 2013 18:14:32
I've seen at least two refernces to 'this is what they do in Uruguay'. I think neither were from Liverpool fans. I know very well why they say this. I don't want to bring that up again. Buuuuuuuut. It surely is, ever so slighlty more understandable that the appropriateness of what one says is limited when said in what is probably one's third language, as opposed to first language?
Given that our closest UK based precedents for what Suarez did yesterday is Jermain Defoe, I actually could make an argument that growing up fighting for your dinner probably is harder than honing your footballing skills in South East and then East London - frightful places as they are.
Maybe that dioes partly explain his animalistic tendancies? Maybe that is better than any excuse defioe could offer up?
(I should point out that I don't beieve this to be the case, I am just making a comparison)
Sell him. Ban him, throw the book at him, I think that, as with the racism thing, he gets what he deserves. But there are footballers who have ended careers and then wrote about it who get to pass judgement on Luis. They get to sit there talking about the great goal Defoe scored forgetting he did the same a few years back.
This is what really gets me. The way these issues are covered in the media. Ex players are pretty bad but the journo's? They are awful.
Suarez is a liability but he's also a 'trawler'. The press are the 'seagulls'. He throws them the 'sardines'. Just as Cantona did. As much as I hated him at the time, he told them exactly what they are. Yet they are so dumb they didn't even get it.
Suarez was a disgrace yesterday. He was on the day the Evra thing happened. He was the last time he bit someone too. Not so much for the handballs either end, not at all for the diving - there are far worse and far less honest.
A disgrace, three times (that I know of).
The british press and those who follow in it's wake. Those who boo John Terry for things they do themselves.
People who like the facebook post about the old aged pension vs the immigrant family.
They're a disgrace every day.
Grow an independent thought, you're not worth the words.
I just used a lot of them to get to that conclusion!
As a United fan, quality post mate. He did wrong and he should be punished but the hysteria is stunning. What gets me is that leg breaking tackles get 3 game bans, unless the player was booked in which case no further action is taken. As you can imagine, I really can't stand Suarez as a person but some of the reaction has been ridiculous - what he did was dreadful and I'm sure the FA will rightly hammer him for it but there's far worse goes unpunished every week.
AJH
22 Apr 2013 17:57:48
Shelvey missed a sitter yesterday, awful miss that was. And Hendo had a bad game. Kept gifting the ball to Chelsea always. Gerrard's miss also showed he's not that critical now-a-days. Given our game is supposed to be the passing game, we never did it properly. At some point of time we couldn't get two passes together. Sturridge was delightful yesterday (apart from that tackle). Our first goal showed what we could do, but we fail to do it more often. I felt Downing and Enrique had a pretty solid game. Carra was very good as well ( note, it was Agger who is to be blamed for the Oscar goal). The game lacked one thing from start for us. That burst of speed and the runs from Sturridge and it showed in the 2nd half. He should've started. Overall: decent performance, but need to be critical. There were a lot of chances which could've finished the game off for chelsea. And the plan B must be made plan A.
KrishnaYNWA
22 Apr 2013 17:55:14
Guys/Girls
I am genuinely torn I have not seen anything that has made my jaw drop on a football pitch since Cantana and his drop kick. There is no doubt about what he did or his intent, the apology says it all it was inexcusable. But what is to be done I am not sure that a knee jerk reaction is the right one but the Club and player need to spend very real time together in the summer. Forgetting the moral issue and feeling of uncomfortability which I feel on this subject the length of the ban and if it comes into play this or next season may play a part. If it is 10 games and I say if can we really afford to have a player of that worth out for 1/4 of the season. So as I say leaving issues of morality to one side let's have the facts and the impact of those facts (ie the level of punishment) before we decide his fate.
Ps I know a lot of you wold mock the idea of a ban of such length but have any of you seen the like before?
The Zidane headbutt in the World Cup final made my jaw hit the floor as well as Cantonas kung-fu kick.
22 Apr 2013 17:53:14
I have seen players punch, kick, throw elbows, go hard tackling when frustrated but bite an opposition player oh dear, Suarez has huge problems in his head.
22 Apr 2013 17:36:37
Looking at our first 11 we put out yesterday and our performances over the season I think we only need a few players to plug couple of key gaps in our team to be truely competitive next season. The team we put out I think is our current strongest 11. But I feel if we signed:
-Alderwield
-Zouma
-Diame
-Eriksen
-Dzudzsak
We will have filled important positions to improve.
Alderwield to slot in First team alongside Agger and Zouma rotated, with Skrtel, Coates and Carragher leaving. With kelly and Wisdom playing more centrally when needed. Then the midfield three of Lucas, Gerrard and Eriksen against most teams. With Diame playing against more physical opponents to add some power in there. Then Suarez up top with any combination of Coutinho, Sterling, Sturrdge and Dzudzsak on the wings.
By selling Skrtel, Carroll, Coates and a number of other fringe players e. g. Shelvey, pacheco etc think these are all affordable options and will improve us greatly. Hope you post Ed's and get thoughts from fellow reds!
22 Apr 2013 18:13:07
No offence mate but Erickson is wanted by PSG among others and Diame is wanted by Arsenal, Tottenham, everton, Napoli and Valencia doubt we would get them
22 Apr 2013 17:24:04
Can I jus ask PEOPLE is spitting as bad as biting?
Is a dangerous tackle which can and has ended careers as bad as biting a player?
People like keane who nearly snapped a players leg one time never got this much criticism nd what he did was pretty sick and theirs been others too but because its suarez he's going to get banned fined and cussed
What he did was dumb and he needs punishing! but let's stop with all this he disgraced lfc an disgrace fellow professionals there's others who have done more disgraceful things let him take the punishment and if he wants to leave and someone offers between 40-50 mil let him go
Hes a magnificent player
The best playa afta messi and ronni
But I think they gna force him out I cnt see him stayin afta this
You could see the guy is very emotional and be does everything by instinct
Hes really does play on the edge and its bin a pleasure sein him in lfc shirt
Bar the evra and ivanovic incident he's not bin in trouble not had a red card which is surprising!
Basy
22 Apr 2013 17:22:01
As the club are looking at ways to cut costs, wouldn't it be cheaper to get Suarez a Hannibal lecter mask instead of the anger management classes. Would work better as well. They could also wheel him out on one of these trolleys. That would keep the FA and old whiskey nose happy.
Maybe just recycle the Suarez t-shirts you lot wore supporting him during the Evra affair, that`ll save you a few bob.
Or make the whole thing go away by claiming he was asleep in a hotel room somewhere.
Typical manc thing is your team not whiter than white got your own players who continually court controversy not mentioning names certain player stunk at the world cup and blamed the fans for booing him then all the truth came out on his private life but swept under carpet
22 Apr 2013 17:03:16
Suarez should be sold, end of story. He will still be wanted by a bunch of top clubs, so I think it is best to say we still want him, then go for 40 plus million. Sign Sanchez and Eriksen out of that money (might be a tad more. ).
Love you Luis, but you need help mate.
Dont love him enough I say do you really think players of that calibre will sign if he leaves think again we've always replaced quality but then we had something to offer or the pull now we dont
22 Apr 2013 18:27:49
Sign Sanchez and Eriksen out of that money
also explain why would they come to us.
its been years we had wednesday night football. and it will be much more.
22 Apr 2013 17:28:39
This bite is such a big thing, I think if suarez would have hit ivanovic with a career threatening tackle it would have been less hyped. atleast whatever he was doing then was in footballing terms called a 'tackle'. disgusted with the excessive hype (thought i'm not saying what suarez did was right, just hyped)
YNWA
22 Apr 2013 17:01:00
I'm not so bothered about the fact that he bit Ivanovic, what bothers me is that at this point in the season, when we need as many points as possible, he is willing to do something that will not only get him a significant ban, but will also damage the reputation of the club. I feel so let down by Suarez, I have argued endlessly against people claiming he is a racist, diver, cheat, because I don't believe any of them to be true, and I really think he has been victimised by the media, but he's just adding fuel to the fire, which will eventually backfire on the club and it's supporters! Just as he seems to be sorting himself out he goes and BITES someone! He didn't punch him, or kick him, or stamp on his foot, ffs a nipple cripple would have been more appropriate than biting him that's just plain weird! I'm not saying he should have punched or kicked Ivan, but seriously, biting is for small children! The guys a complete fruit, albeit a very talented one, but he needs to sort himself out!
Another thing, people are now saying we should support Suarez because United supporters supported Keane after he purposefully ended another player's career, and Cantona after he kicked that Crystal Palace supporter, and numerous other incidences etc but since when were we like United supporters? We attack them and call them hypocrites due to all this in relation to their comments on Suarez. if we continue to support Suarez we are being just as bad.
I love the guy, and I so badly wish he hadn't done what he did, but there are no excuses and he has nowhere to hide. Our club is much more important to me than one player, whoever that one player may be. We build a team around him and he is missing for a third of the season. If he gets a ban the same as his one from Ajax previously, he would have missed nearly 20 matches through suspension in his extremely short Liverpool career. That's too much for me, too much from someone who our team so heavily rely on.
Cheers guys
Super
Great post mate
kobi
22 Apr 2013 16:54:43
Fed up now with all the Suarez rubbish. He bit another player and will take what punishment comes with it.
There is no reason, no excuse for doing that and it cannot be condoned no matter what his worth to the club.
I hope he stays for next season, but I don't think that will be the case. I think a bid or bids will be made in the summer and he will be offloaded.
It's such a shame that he has this to his game as he's been the best player in the league this season.
Let's make no mistake though, he deserves anything the FA will dish out, and it has to be accepted by the player and the club.
Liverpool also have to be seen to come down hard as well, as this sort of carry on is damaging to the club.
If he stays, give him all the help he needs. If he goes, get as much as possible. What else can you ask?
22 Apr 2013 16:54:25
To the people who think suarez is a disgrace, liability to this club and spoiled the reputation of this club.
go back and watch the game against Zenith.
the third goal. the thumps up. to the crowd.
Do you honestly believe he wanna spoil the reputation of this club.
I don't think so.
Yes yesterday action was unacceptable.
but you can't erase history, he has apologized and will serve the ban.
and for those who believe this has spoiled the reputation all over the world.
common mate. what will be our reputation if we finish 7th and no CL for another 2 more years?
I don't say he is bigger than the club.
but on this day. this season. he is just what Liverpool FC needed.
Kenny daglish, Ian rush were not bigger than the club. But without them, where would have been us?
As a blue nose infiltrating your site, I have to say that Rush and Dalglish would have NEVER brought your once great club into disripute in the way Suarez has and is likely to again. The guy is one brilliant footballer. World class. But he is also one sandwich missing from a picnic. He has repeatedly done similar actions through his career. I have seen him aim kicks this season at opposing players and somehow the refs never saw them. I suggest that no single player is bigger than any club. Cadermarterie springs to mind. However, you guys make your bed and you guys sleep in it.
World class? Yes!
Liability? Absolutely!
Degsypulford
22 Apr 2013 17:42:31
Harry Scousser mate Liverpool is more then football club and Suarez is massively hurting our bussiness side which is more important then any individual, just imagine how owners, Rodgers will be feeling the pressure from media, investors, sponsors etc and how many times can you defend him when he keeps on repeating those antics.
22 Apr 2013 16:25:32
looking at newsnow and the national post from canada headline with "Liverpool would like luis suarez to stop biting people". Genius, that beats the Inverness v Celtic headline everyday.
22 Apr 2013 16:23:31
Blue here in peace, I'm fascinated by the whole Suarez situation. He is a world class player and obviously a loaf short of a picnic basket, but would all the Liverpool fans be supporting your player if it was say coates, or downing or Henderson that had done this? I personally don't think you would, I may be wrong but just a question I thought I would ask. Would you back them the same as you have Suarez?
Wrighty
No because then it wouldn't be quite as a big a deal. Nobody would be calling for his contract to be terminated and all that. Completely different circumstances.
I think we would support whichever of our players it is/was, as long as he apologised (which Suarez has done).
He is going to be playing football for a good many years from now, so why should we cut our noses of to spite our face and sell him?
To be honest mate I think they would get more support than Suarez because they don't have the same history of repeatedly doing something stupid like Suarez does.
MIKEY
22 Apr 2013 16:13:35
ED001 what do you make of this Suarez incident do you think it's time we have to sell him?
RED87 {Ed001's Note - no, he was bought knowing this is going to happen, he was always a source of problems. If you buy a player like that, you have to accept them as part of it, in my opinion. I didn't think we should buy him, because of his issues, but we did and we have to just work on getting him to sort out his head.}
Bang on Edd01, that's reasonable think to say.
If we never had him we would be fighting relegation FACT
Good reply ed agree totally with you.
Ed001,
You could sort Suarez out - do one of your famous psychological profiles. Meat and drink to you mate ;-)
The Juicer
Out of interest Ed do you still feel we'd have been better off if we'd never signed him, or have his performances changed your mind?
DP {Ed002's Note - Footballing wise no. But the reputation of both the club and Kenny Dalglish would be a lot better off.}
22 Apr 2013 16:12:40
I've read a couple of posts on here and someone mention that apparently John Aldridge also said that Suarez did what he did yesterday to 'engineer' a move away from Liverpool.
Now. Surely with the power that players have nowadays surely if they want to leave a club so badly, all that have to do is just say 'I want to leave. '
Why would he have to go and do something on the field like that that's totally wrong, that he's done before, that if anything will make other teams say, we don't want that at our club.
I personally think that it was a moment of madness, a red mist and he reacted by doing that.
It was wrong and there's no place for that kind of thing in the game. I think the manager handled it well yesterday (apart from the Torres comment) and what he's said this morning is right. I think the club have done the right thing in acting swiftly and fining him before the F. A. react, and in what they've said on the matter.
The F. A. will no doubt fine him and ban him. The media are having their Suarez bashing, which they so love. Ivanovic himself doesn't want anything else done about it and has been a credit in this.
He may or may not leave in the summer but that's how things stood anyway, even before this.
But to say that he deliberatly bit someones arm to engineer a move away is madness.
dannyMAC
I disagree a bit. I think what Suarez did was deliberate. A 'red mist' theory is equally flawed and makes very little sense at all. That would be tantamount to saying Suarez is literally insane and incapable of controlling his actions which I completely fail to find believable and, even if it were true, certainly isn't a depiction of an individual it seems wise to keep around. I don't know if he did it to engineer a move away or not, but given that the last time he did this this is precisely what occurred there does seem to be some merit in the theory, does there not? Whatever the reason, as I see there are only two options: either Suarez is quite literally crazy or he did it on purpose knowing full well it will be caught on camera for purposes known only to him. Neither option is particularly attractive.
Not many players are stupid enough to do it in the heat of the moment, let alone think about it in advance then actually set about and do it. Not even Suarez is that mental.
MIKEY
Mate you must have heard about loyalty and commitment bonuses and everything?
If he puts in a transfer request he loses lots of money, not to mention the fans turn on him like Torres.
The trip to Turin last summer was not for the weather. Go on the rumours page and read the reply from Ed 02 to the post what happens to Suarez next. He has been trying to tell people on here about the issue with Juve since the start of the season.
Sorry mate but Aldo has a point, I love Suarez to bits but you ask any Ajax fan about whether the incident there was connected to him leaving and you will get a maybe.
I don't believe it is connected but my beliefs are not facts.
kobi
22 Apr 2013 16:03:40
Imo The fa will come down hard on suarez as they did last time when he got 8 game ban but JT got 4 game ban if I'm right. Defoe got a yellow and for that reason NOTHING else was done. I can pretty much garauntee he will get 3-6 match ban and a £50,000 fine. I think if the ref had seen it he would have had a red and 3 match ban so that should be the punishment no more no less. I would like to see him have a anger managment course also. No need to let another team have his qualities so no sale this summer. What do the ed's think? Ynwa
The punishment had he been given a red would not be limited by the amount of time normally given for a red - it would have been the same as whatever punishment the FA gives him now
I think he will get a 5 match ban that's my gut feeling. I honestly don't know why Terry got a 4 match ban and Suarez got 8 because what Suarez said translated to English is nearly the exact same as what Terry said but I don't want to bring that situation up again, I know there was a reason just can't remember right now. Defoe was cautioned by the ref at the time so the FA couldn't take action.
Ed just a question for you, why don't the FA change that? I think it's stupid the way the referee could get a glimpse of a situation and card a player even though he hasn't seen the full event. For example when McManaman tackled Haidara a few games ago, because the referee saw the incident, the FA couldn't take action against McManaman. Could you clear that up for me Ed? Thanks.
Kopman. {Ed001's Note - because it is a FIFA directive that the FA are powerless to do anything about. Blatter made the decision.}
I think the one thing that can be said though is that we can manage the rest of the season without him if Sturridge and Coutinho step up. There's enough class to manage without Suarez for awhile
I think the F. A will throw the book at Luis Suarez and he will get a 9 - 12 game ban.
Hope I'm wrong
Marc
22 Apr 2013 15:17:16
Out of interest, is Suarez not now banned anyway? Yesterday he got a yellow which was his 10th of the season. Or is it reset at some point?
Reset before last game.
22 Apr 2013 15:41:07
Did ivanovic get banned for spitting at some one
He probably had to wipe some Suarez slobber off his arm on sunday.
And what would that have to do with anything?
22 Apr 2013 15:32:15
guys we r a bit overreacting to suarez incident. definitely what he did was nothing short of shocking, and whatever punishment is metted out he fully deserves. there is no place for something like this in football. but we knew what we were getting into when we bought luis. it doesn't mean u throw him out of our club. no top team does that. remember
cantona, keane and many more who I can't recall have done crazy things. they were not sold on simply because in football u don't sell your best player. cantona, keane are legends in united folklore.
no matter how much we loathe mr whiskynose, he knows how to win. that is what we need at the greatest club in the world. once we achieve that hopefully with luis u can bet me luis is going to be remembered for one thing alone and that is pure footballong genius. rant over.
22 Apr 2013 15:31:04
Surely the anger management offered is a good thing
22 Apr 2013 15:30:06
Interested in what people's thoughts are on here regarding Luis Suarez.
Do we Sell him after the latest incident as we would stil get top money for him and he would have his pick of clubs. {Ed001's Note - we should just be glad he didn't bite Dickov, imagine those headlines!}
He'd have a pick of a very small number of clubs that can or would be willing to spend 40+ million on one player, a player that also brings controversay aswell. Very small.
22 Apr 2013 15:27:36
Were all saying trampling our reputation. It ain't true.
He is ruining his own reputation no fan is going to be put off it ain't our problem he has issues, end of day if bayern buy him that will make them look bad will it not? let's be serious no one ca take our history away and that is what were remembered for
22 Apr 2013 15:07:45
Suarez getting a ban for remaining game this season is one thing, but if the FA take time to resolve this, he could be facing a ban for next season. Imagine Suarez missing 5-6 of the first games next season? This could seriously effect our chances of getting a CL spot next season also. I think he may have to go. Don't know if an FA ban would also apply to him if he went to another club in Europe in the summer? Can you clarify that Eds? {Ed002's Note - Any ban will run in to next season if necessary. In most cases bans in one country are respected in another and if Suarez were to move I would expect it to stand.}
He won't get banned. Defoe got zero games for his bite, Exact same thing here.
Anonymous poster (1st reply). Suarez will get banned and it would be wrong not to. What he done was inexcusable, and not befitting of a player in a Liverpool shirt. Defoe was cautioned for his actions in that game so therefore, no action could be taken by the FA. So it is a different situation.
Cheers,
LS7.
Well soon see how much we've improved this season under brendan now anyway kenny lost him and lucas brendan has now lost just suarez
one cup and eighth for kenny
no cups and seventh upto now
But defeo got booked for his little nibble, suarez didn't so retrospective action can be taken by the FA my guess is a 3-4 game ban.
Defoe got a yellow, so because the ref had dealt with it in the game fa could not do anything about it, if the ref says he saw the suarez bite and felt it did not need a yellow or red there ia nothing the fa can do, if the ref says he did not see it the fa can ban and fine suarez as they see fit.
He will get banned and it will be big. Why do you think Liverpool and Louis himself have reacted so quickly to apologise. It's to show they have acted over the incident so hopefully the FA made be more lenient with the ban.
22 Apr 2013 18:05:52
Luis will get between 9 and 12 game ban. I really hope I am wrong but with what the FA have come out and said the sharks are circling.
Marc
22 apr 2013 15:04:26
i really think some of our fans are bonkers saying things like "everyone is replacable", "no one is bigger than the club" etc. simple fact is we are not in a position to replace suarez with another player of similar ilk.
and in saying that i am in no means justifying his actions from the other night. he deserves whatever punishment he is handed. but for liverpool as a club it makes no sense at all to let suarez leave, a better alternative would be to help re-shape his personality on the field by counselling or other methods.
in my opinion our stance on suarez should be the same in summer: not for sale at any price
Oh how the mighty have fallen, so one player is bigger than your club?!
I am truly sick and tired of sanctimonious oppo fans saying "how the mighty have fallen" do they realize how limp that sounds? ha ha, self righteous hypocrites! spouting fanzine drivel, coming on here to have a go, sad people, get a life, or try your own club page.
22 Apr 2013 14:44:30
eds was there something wrong with my post? I posted over 3 hours ago and yet it hasn't appeared. I know I forgot to sign it, but I thought with his logging in it would come up as me.
billycee {Ed002's Note - There are no posts from you.}
Hi eds I don't know what's happened I will try and repost if that's ok {Ed002's Note - Sure.}
22 Apr 2013 14:37:45
If Liverpool were in Top of the league.
No one would have dare to utter a word against him. and we would ahev defended better.
Wait till sunday. he will score another 2 goals against newcastle.
simple as that.
Err. what? Firstly stop dreaming about the top of the league and secondly if a four year old bit someone on a football pitch I would be alarmed as they should know better, for a 26 year old to do it is just disgraceful, and whether you were twentieth or first it would be unacceptable.
Your comments like Suarez are a joke.
Bazza
He won't score against newcastle as he won't be playing.
22 Apr 2013 14:36:30
Would anyone do a straight swap, Suarez for higuain?
Fantasy football I know but real might want him and we would then need to replace him.
MIKEY
Nope. I think we would not be getting value there. I think Suarez would be worth a fair bit more.
The Irish Rover
Luis suarez is a genius, don't swap them for good strikers
5gold stars
Suarez Value is around £50M - £60M and anybody wanted to negotiate will start the bidding at £40M and then it will increase as more clubs come in for him.
Nooooo suarez is worth £50m
Gonzalo is worth £30m
BigD, I think you and a few others on here will be bitterly disappointed if Suarez is sold. He will not sell for anywhere near that amount and all you are doing is building yourself up for a big big disappointment.
I agree in that Suarez is a better player but the value of the 2 players might actually be pretty similar due to recent (and not so recent) events.
MIKEY
22 Apr 2013 14:22:58
Is there a picture of this bite wound then?
As quoted on the tv - Merseyside Police say they will not take any action against Suarez, with Ivanovic not reporting any physical injury and informing police he did not want to pursue the matter.
No physical injury are the key words surely because if he did bite him then there would have been a physical injury.
Total over reaction by BBC, SKY and the silly Sun on tv news this morning. {Ed002's Note - Idiot.}
I don't understand why people are trying to defend him. He bit a fellow professional and should be punished.
Ivanovic and Chelsea should be applauded for not taking things further.
Explain don't just say "person", the pictures I've seen shows his face against his arm and then Ivanovic pushing him away. Plus no yellow card and no talking to after Ivanovic lifted his sleeve up to show the ref. If descisions not taken in a game can be changed afterwards then how come this isn't true for off side goals, why don't the FA review that type of thing and say "sorry no goal" the West Ham United v MU game springs to mind. Did Defoe get a ban? Your one worded answer is not enough. Are you not a Chelsea fan Ed002. {Ed002's Note - You being an idiot is nothing to do with who I support.}
Suarez bit him mate. He didn't lock jaws and rip away like a lion at the watering hole, but he did bite him. The video is very clear, end of discussion there
And once again you don't explain. You've now called me an person twice but I'm only an person because I'm none the wiser to how the FA can review a game for some things but not for others and Defoe didn't get banned but Saurez will, Ivanovic doesn't want to persue it, the Police don't but the FA will. So if all the West Ham United players went to the FA said we want RvP goal chalked off would they get anywhere - NO. I haven't abused you once with words yet you do it to me, maybe in a first reply to a post you explained where peoples thinking was going wrong they may just sit back and rethink what they have said rather than you just blatantly saying "person". I used to enjoy reading what you had to say. {Ed001's Note - are you really this dense? You tried to pretend it wasn't a bite, now you are saying you weren't doing that you were asking about why they can review some things and not others. Be honest and admit you were being an idiot by covering up a blatant bite and then ask your question. Which is a question that has been covered many times in the media recently after players have got away with things they shouldn't have. If the ref sees it and makes a decision based on what he saw, the FA can not act, if the ref doesn't act because he didn't see it, then they can act retrospectively.}
Brilliant, made my day - school must be out!
No I'm not dense and I'm not an person either or should I say person. I've not "pretended it didn't happen" I've seen no evidence that he actually did bite him apart from a picture still of Suarez's faced pushed into Ivanovic's arm and he apologises for his "inexcusable behaviour" but doesn't say "I apologise for biting him" and if there was a bite mark why when Ivanovic showed the ref did the ref not act I wonder how this would have stood up in a court of law, the second is not asking about something entirely different I'm basically saying that if nothing happened to Suarez at the time how can they do something about it afterwards and if they have those powers why can't they chalk off an off side goal? A simple explanation after the first post would have surficed but you saw to call me an person instead. Do you do that to your children or peers if they don't understand something then? {Ed001's Note - you clearly haven't watched him put his teeth into the man's arm, so you are being an idiot by trying to deny it happened purely because you are ignorant of the facts. I would expect my daughter to have the good sense to find out what did happen, before spouting complete nonsense, but then she isn't an idiot.}
I saw a pic of a big red Mark on ivanovic's arm in a paper today and it was definatly in the shape of Suarez's mouth.
What a tool the poster is.
MIKEY
Eds I have great respect for u guys for all the persons u have to deal with on here so funny reading some of the stuff on here.
22 Apr 2013 20:32:12
Hi guys just thot I'll let u guys know rvp equaled suarez goal tally so depending on the match ban I think the golden boot will be gone too and please cut the guy some slack he did wrong and is getting punished for it but do we really want him to leave. did cantona leave united for his drop kick? The fans supported it my personal opinion is that suarez is a villian for the media that why its being hyped but some of our fans go along like sheep. cash in on him and buy who another caroll
22 Apr 2013 14:19:59
Time to get real, Suarez is a libility not a flawed genius, the crowed comemerates the tradgedy of Hillsboro and this lunatic destroys the honour of a still great club, anybody who disrespects Liverpool Football Club and all we stand for should be shown the exit door, no fines no suspensions and no respect from the fanbase, but this will not happen becuase there is no respect in footballers lives anymore. London Red
I got news for you mate it's not just footballers! politicians for one!
22 Apr 2013 14:07:35
8 match ban on the cards me thinks. Ed is it possible that this is referred to UEFA as this is not the first time he has had a nibble at a fellow pro? {Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with UEFA.}
22 Apr 2013 14:06:18
Suarez has given the owners the perfect opportunity to cash in on him in the summer. He's 26, he's scored 30 goals, he's top scorer in the Prem and he's prime resale value. In the meat market that is football, I fear we have seen the last of Luis. And, on the other side, if LFC can cash in on him and bring in three other players of the quality of Coutinho its not that bad a deal for Liverpool either. I can't see this going any other way.
22 Apr 2013 14:03:58
I must say i'm really looking forward to see how the team plays without suarez. We have been so reliant on him this season. and I feel incredible as he is that sometimes he takes away us playing as a unit. also coming up towards the end of the season its opened up a big opertunity for some of our attacking players to really shine!
Interesting times ahead.
OredZ
I feel the same when gerrard was out for a chunk of the season! think it was last or maybe the season before that and we managed! sometimes when you take the star out you play as a team and not a one man band! sturrdige will shine coutinho will and could bring in a young striker to help out and that also could be another blessing in disguise!
Interesting perspective there - a real opportunity for Coutinho to be the creative engine and Sturridge to take lead goalscoring responsibility which he has wanted for years!
22 Apr 2013 15:33:24
and who are the other two persons behind surridge and countinho to supply them?
downing and shelvey?
Our attacking 3 will be Downing, Sturridge and Coutinho. Width, goals and creativity. Behind is Hendo, Gerrard and Lucas - Work rate/creativity, creativity and defensive assistance. Defense as usual, with Assaidi and Shelvey on the bench for extra push. It's only four games we have to manage (next season might be more games without Suarez but we have no idea how we'll look then)
22 Apr 2013 14:00:11
I am actually surprised that Liverpool fans have not leapt to his defence by saying thing like, if you look closely, Ivanvovic actually forces his arm into his mouth, or in Uruguay, this is something that everyone does and therefore there is no issue he thought it would be ok etc etc.
Also, just my humble opinion, is it possible that this is to somehow engineer a move away from Liverpool? He could indicate that his bans in the English game are all too much and that he feels a move to Germany is the only option left for him? This way he does not have to hand in a transfer request.
TA
22 Apr 2013 13:59:37
Kevin Keegan, Michael Owen, Fernando Torres were all replaceable and Suarez is no different and despite his class he is not bigger than our club.
Apples '96'
22 Apr 2013 14:34:39
Kevin Keegan, Michael Owen, Fernando Torres
All these were Replcable because Our club was in CL and top 4 every year.
None will be replacble now.
cant see cavani moving to a team whose in 8th position from last 3 seaosn and can't guarante him that we will be in top 4 next seaosn.
do you see that?
Harry, we attracted Suarez with no Champions League football?
Apples '96'
22 Apr 2013 15:34:43
But we had serious money and a new owners. with new ambition.
and he never knew he will see torres departing on deadline day.
22 Apr 2013 13:48:04
A long time ago on a football pitch far far away!
(Sith master) Darth Cantona 'Luis I AM your father'!
(Young padowan) Luis Suarezwalker 'NOOO000ooo'!
DevaredJay
Are you ok?
22 Apr 2013 13:44:07
Let's sell Suarez for £40m if we can get it, replace him with 2 top draw players on top of what we were already going to do & we will have a much better squad that aren't walking bans like Suarez he's our balotelli & he might be great elsewhere I just hope it is elsewhere
22 Apr 2013 14:23:05
And whose those two top draw strikers who can bang in 20+ goals a season and can fit in immediatly without needing time and most. with no CL and with a decent Wage?
Name 2 please that would be willing to join at this moment thanks in advance
*sarcasm*
ACMD RED
22 Apr 2013 13:27:11
It is simply crazy to suggest that the club should get rid of Luis after what happened yesterday, but the boy has serious "issues" that need to be sorted out. I feel that these anger managment classes would help. He is a world class footballer and LFC haven't got too many of those at the moment, that said, he needs to realise that his behaviour when wearing the red shirt has to be better. What happened yesterday was nothing short of disgusting. He can show his "hunger" for success in a more positive way.
Traditionally, therapy only ever helps when you refer yourself. Unless he is honestly admitting to himself that he cannot stop himself crossing the line that is acceptable and it is a real problem that he WANTS help with, he could spend 100 year in therapy, come out and cause another scandal the next match
22 Apr 2013 13:01:19
A few years ago when we had numerous world class talents in the team I woukd have said sell Suarez, we don't need that sort of player, however the yesteryears have gone and Suarez stands alone in that world class bracket at our club now.
Gerrard and Reina show glimpses of the quality that was once so consistent.
Watching Suarez bite Ivanovic today made me feel slightly ashamed to be associated with such a player. His moments of class are becoming outweighed by his moments of sheer madness and make him look like a person.
I think Suarez has to stay, because without him we struggle to be at all creative or passionate. How else can we try to sway people to come to play at our club without other world class players and how would we push for better standing if we were to offload our shameful talisman?
He has us somewhat by the balls does our man, we need him he does not need us, I almost shamefully want him to stay.
Cannot wait to hear Macca's view on the incident
Anfield Andy
22 Apr 2013 13:00:25
Complete over reaction on saurez.
He was just warning ivanovic to back off, if he meant any harm he would have drawn blood.
LAVERS
Personic post
I would return to Transylvania if you think this is acceptable.
I too use my mouth often to warn people of me, my view or my presence. It's normally by having words coming out of them though
Quality Lavers lad. You do make me laff.
Alfie
22 Apr 2013 12:54:16
Hey Ed's just wondering with Liverpool fining Suarez will the FA still take action? Thanks.
Kopman. {Ed002's Note - Oh yes, it will make no difference to that.}
So he will definitely be banned in your eyes Ed? Thanks.
Kopman. {Ed002's Note - He will be subject to whatever punishment the FA deem approriate - I would not want to second guess what that would be but given folks keep asking: I would think Suarez will get a ban, a fine and a written letter which will remind him of the potential ban he already has hanging over him, and will strongly suggest he improves his conduct in the future. Then it will be in the hands of the club to decide how to manage the next few months.
Ed, is there a suspended sentence hanging over him? Would that sentence only have to be served if it was a similar offence to before? Or any new offence?
Disney! {Ed002's Note - It is not "suspended" per se, it is a situation that will arise if he is found to be guilty of a similar offence to before.}
I thought as much, I think he will be suspended for the remainder of the season. No longer than that IMO.
Disney! {Ed002's Note - Really? We'll see.}
Ed002, I think the FA are pretty soft. I think a strong worded letter to Bernstein will usually do the trick. Saying that he got a 7-game ban in Holland so would they have similar guidelines? Are the guidelines all the same? Could the English FA increase it due to him already having a 7-game ban and him not learning from it?
Disney! {Ed002's Note - It will be decided based on the event itself taking account of a number of background issues that have involved The FA.}
22 Apr 2013 12:47:43
Has anyone seen the Defoe / Maschenaro bite from 2006, yellow card seems a bit soft!
Time has moved on I know but I wonder how many games the ban will be, its sure not to be less than the 8 he got last time, but how would the FA justify more I wonder, are there other precedents that would factor in?
Cheers,
Suffolk n'Red
22 Apr 2013 12:44:54
Jhon barnes is the 1st one to talk sence suarez needs to stay we need t support and help him
Basy
22 Apr 2013 12:40:04
Hi Eds. Do you have any updates on Kelly and Borini? The former was supposed to be available in March. Did he suffer any setbacks? I appreciate all your work, love the site.
Derek {Ed002's Note - You may see both make a cameo before the end of the season.}
22 Apr 2013 12:42:25
Looks like Suarez will be banned for the vital League matches that would determine our CL fate and he could miss that vital semi final in Europe, not to mention the cup final. Oh wait, we are battling for 6th and cups finished long ago.
Ban him, fine him, sell him, keep him, whatever. He is just another flawed genius like so many other footballers before him. He's apologised and seems conciliatory so give him a break British media.
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Pompey red
Get rid I say. He is dragging LFC into the gutter.
Throw the book at him! He needs sectioning
22 Apr 2013 12:39:02
Well reds yesterday you said no one was bigger than your club but today you just proved otherwise. What a great way to punish a player who once again brought shame on your club. A FINE. Stef the blue
Do you want the club to shoot him or what?
Liverpool did what every other club would have done. He is worth up to €50m so Liverpool are never going to sack him. He is a great player and the club will help him through this. Suarez has apologised and has been fined. The FA will ban him for a few games. Move on.
Ah the bitters! You can always count on them
Yes but he is bigger than your club you bottled it again and the worst thing of all you seem more happy to have a world class player in your team than have your club hailed as world class. Your club is losing all the respect it ever had by supporting a player that clearly could not care less about your club. but it clearly shows were LFC are now as a club.
No-one from the club has 'supported' him. Everyone connected has come out and said that what he did was wrong and he's swiftly been heavily fined and dealt with.
What are they meant to do stef? Have him walk down Walton breck road getting stoned and kicked by the crowds?!
No but they should sit him down and make him say sorry in front of the media, then give him a ban themselves your club is not painting a good picture of it's self now is it that is the second time he bit another human being for god's sake are you blind. His actions were disgraceful and how long are you lot going to carry on thinking by saying sorry it is ok. I am telling you what your club look's like from the outside and there is no way you have the respect you had in the 80's he is doing more damage than good to your club name and deep down you know it.
Hang on a minute bitter blues. Did your club not sign "Big Dunc" after he had served a prison sentence for headbutting an opponent?? that's right.
Yes I thought so. people in glass houses should not throw stones.
22 Apr 2013 12:37:43
RESPECT to chech/rafa/ because the media just kept at them and at them but they didn't say a thing but a special mention must go to ivanovic not making a big thing fair play to yeah a lot of respect because like the media chelsea could of hung him out to dry JON96
22 Apr 2013 12:34:18
Guys I'm a Liverpool fan and Uruguayan living in Australia where in the media football is hated and uruguayans ( because of our little rivalry) aren't hated but they don't hold back when it's one of us. I have to defend Suarez on 2 fronts. Personally I love the guy he's obviously got some issues and after this morning I decided i'm not going to use energy defending him but, he didn't kill anyone he's been fined and will be suspended, as reds we have to deal with his absence not his stupidity. To say he makes Liverpool look bad and supporters look bad is silly and if someone gives you grief over things you can't control and you let it get to you, well you need wake up abit. Sorry for the rant
Uruseb
WE can control it, by getting rid of him? Do you think Dalglish or the other number 7s in our clubs history would have bit someone?
22 Apr 2013 12:34:15
Got to say what a complete over reaction. Yeah he did wrong but when Graeme Souness is sat there calling him an animal I just had to laugh. His tackles were horrific and could have and probably did, end players careers.
Luis Suarez has obviously got issues but anyone who has ever played the game should know what exactly goes on on a football pitch.
Chelsea and Manchester United have intimidated and bullied teams, players and referees for years. As did Liverpool with Graeme Souness. Roy Keane for United, Viera for Arsenal and John Terry for Chelsea are no different and are far worse.
But let's get down to the brass tax of it, that my friends is what wins you football matches. Fear mixed with a team full of ability.
You never saw Roy Keane, Gary Neville, Souness, Carra, Viera, Tommy Smith cuddling up to players before they went on the pitch in the tunnel. because that's what I saw yesterday.
You want to make Anfield a fortress again this is what is needed.
Obviously not biting people but showing some desire to win at all costs. By the way who was marking Suarez when he scored. that's right no-one because they wouldn't go near him.
^+1 spot on mate yes he's got issues and deserves a fine and ban say 3 games at most. he's a frustrated man lots of desire we've all done something wrong in life let's stick with him and give him 100% support.
Absolute rubbish, read your post mate and then retract it. to tackle hard as you say these players did even a bad tackle is nothing like BITING a fellow professional. I like Liverpool club and supporters they are among the best in the world because of there honesty towards football so don't let yourselves downand condone this (its not his first time doing this). Most lfc supporters don't like what he did, they love him as a player as we all do but as a person he is definitely lacking basic human instinct.
Good luck for the future you will have a good one.
derbyshire dave
Souness broke a players jaw in 2 places with a punch in the 70s, think its was against stena buakerest (spelt wrong ), football then is no different than now, its win at all costs and i'd rather have that than have a player just taking his 100K a week and just turning up!
22 Apr 2013 12:18:40
I think it is good that the club has recognised our need to keep Suarez at the club.
What he did yesterday was totally unacceptable. The club have fined him two weeks wages and he has apologised to Ivanovic and the club for the inconvinience he has caused.
I think it is very good of Ivanovic to accept Suarez's apology and that he has decided not to take the matter further.
The club has said that they will work closely with Suarez regarding his discipline and have offered him anger management.
The only way Suarez will improve his behaviour is if someone is there to help him and give him the support that he needs psychologically.
Suarez needs to attend the anger management course and learn how to control his temper. He needs to prove that he is truly sorry for what he has done by accepting any punishment given to him and come back a better person.
Most of all he needs to start showing respect to Liverpool Football Club for standing by him on numerous occasions, enduring the criticism and bad publicity that they have done, and he needs to ensure that nothing like this ever happens again.
Everone is replaceable, but everyone is changeable.
Spot on
Forgot to sign my post!
Red Lee
Couldn't agree more!
Goober
22 Apr 2013 12:17:42
Before yesterday, I wanted Suarez to stay, and 100% believed he would. Today, I still want him to stay, but have a doubt owners and sponsors may force otherwise.
What I cannot understand is people saying that if Suarez leaves, we'll get relegated! To be honest, we'd probably improve. I'll explain why because you are all reading this now thinking "what a moron!".
Currently, Suarez is the focal point of our attack, and the team is set upp around him every game. Almost every attack goes through him at some stage. If Suarez left, another player would simply step in as the focal point. Sturridge proved yesterday he is more than capable of matching Suarez, but without the controversy. I just want hi to find consistency. For years we've relied on one of two men. Gerrard and Torres, now Gerrard and Suarez. IF Suarez leaves, of course he can be replaced! We might even get more of a team player in his place, and see the goals shared more evenly throughout the team. The fact is, Suarez is very greedy, and shoots far too often when a better pass is on. that's not to say he's a bad player! Suarez is world class, and in the top 5 players on earth, but our style dictates that we play as a team, and have cool headed players who maintain patience.
To conclude, We've repalced bigger players than Suarez before, and we'll do it again (as long as the money isn't blown!). We may even see Carroll given a chance. I just hope we use any money we have wisely, and I see us being a much stronger outfit next year with, or without Suarez.
YNWA! (Adam)
22 Apr 2013 12:37:16
Wem also have patience and excuse to wait another 15 more year for CL. do we?
common mate. what are you bluffing.
which player has been actually replaced?
100 mill to replace alonoso
another 50 will be wasted to repalce Mascherano?
Some players are simple execptional. you can't replace them.
22 Apr 2013 13:13:38
I disagree Harry. Alonso, as indeed never replaced, nor was Maschrano. However Torres was replaced with Suarez who is better, Aurelio with Enrique, Dudek with Reina, Hammann with Mascherano. In the last 3 years, yes we have made some holwers, but it doesn't mean that has to continue. What about the days when Paisley and Shankley were in charge? They were Ruthless. Keegan was sold and repalced by Dalglish. Rush was sold and repalced by Aldridge. I'm just saying mate, theis club HAS sold better players than Suarez, and it has always come out okay. We have higher standards than most, but in what is widely regarded as the worst time in our history, we are still winiing trophies, still competing for a European place, still easily making it into the top half. If that's us at our low, I'm happy, And i'll stick by the club till we get back to the highs!
I partly hope we do sell Suarez, just so my point is proven. Whether he stays or goes, we'll make the top 4/5 next year, I'm sure.
Everybody forgets this:
*Rodgers is young and this is his first major job. He will improve.
*Sterling, Wisdom, Allen, Henderson, Borini, Suso, Kelly, Sturridge, Coutinho, Shelvey and to some extent Ibe, Coady and Yesil are all first team players for us under the age of 23 who will improve.
*Johnson, Agger, Reina, Enrique, Lucas and Suarez (if he stays) are all coming into their prime.
*We have great youth players still yet to breakthrough (or make the matchday squad at least) Sinclair, Adorjan, McLaughlin, Sama, Texeira, Ngoo etc.
The only players like to reamin at the same level or get worse are Gerrard and Carragher (if he is convinced to play one more year). That is testament to how young our squad is.
We are on the rise. Plus other signings, It'll be fine guys. Just keep the faith, and stop worrying over one player!
YNWA! (Adam)
22 Apr 2013 14:32:02
Adam,
I appreciate your points. If we are on the rise its just because some players hard effort adn luis suarez is one among them.
we have been wasting money on a single position time and time again. we havent.
if suarez goes and we do recieves some good money.
do you honestly think we will get our man probably in 4 months time before the next kick off and he immediatly bangs 20+ goals?
or As usual we need to wait another more year for CL and trophies?
Yes yesterdays actions cannot be defended.
BUt its happened and he has appologized and probably will get a Ban.
what here are worried about the name?
seriously. where do we stand in the league?
8th from 3 seaosns.
What you think rodgers will get rid of suarez.
all of suarez and kks blunders in transfer dealings has been ower shadowed by suarez magical name. goals and assists.
simple. without suarez Br would have been sacked by dec.
There is no better than luis suarez who could actually play for Liverpool now.
neither borini nor sturridge or whomever players we are associated with in the transfer market will replace him.
and suerly we are not going for falcao, cavani, higuain, leondawaski in this summer
Are we?
luis suarez comes above all of them.
other clubs fans actually just want us to sell him, so that we remain in mid table through out.
22 Apr 2013 11:55:45
hi eds I heard a few days ago that uefa are looking to decrease the number of places it allows for english clubs to take part in the european competitions do you know how this will effect the teams such as league standings and does this take effect next season? {Ed002's Note - You have misunderstood something. Places are allocated based on the National teams performance in Europe. Chelsea individually still top the rankings and with Manchester United there or thereabouts England is still good for keeping the four CL for at least another season. Overall England has dropped a little, but there is no need to worry just yet.}
Thanks for clearing that up for me to be honest I was a little confused about it. thanks again
22 Apr 2013 12:01:15
We can argue about the Suarez incident, compare it it to others ie the fellaini headbutt, the aguero lunge, Mcmanaman ect. But to the Liverpool fans saying to get rid because another moment of madness is just wrong, ask yourself this what were you feeling when Gerard got off his GBH charge? Were us fans wanting him to be sent down? Truth is we are more than a club we are a family and we protect the ones we love. Luis Suarez I forgive you, try not to do it again please bud.
22 Apr 2013 11:49:49
Take away Suarez's goals for this season and what is left.
Not very much indeed.
This is the issue that really needs to be addressed.
Red Rolls-Royce
22 Apr 2013 12:26:20
Its just becoz luis suarez and his goals.
most of our transfer flops and signings are not highlighted coz. we have won so many games because of him.
22 Apr 2013 12:53:19
Yeah I can see where you are coming from apart from his contribution in goals and his unbelievable work rate, what else has he got.
Roadrunner
Road Runner
I meant what is left of the Liverpool team. Without Suarez.
Relegation zone I would say. With the very average manager that has been employed. FSG's investment is not looking good right now.
Red Rolls-Royce
Sorry red got the wrong end of the stick
Roadrunner
22 Apr 2013 11:48:05
The club saying Suarez is staying. Great news, move on. Just want to say well done to Sturridge he's been in some poor form last few games and when he came on he destroyed Chelsea
Destroyed Chelsea? Oh, you mean the tackle on Bertrand? yeah, you're right
22 Apr 2013 11:47:34
Oh god, It's worse than I thought, I suppose it was inevitable that I'd have to witness a few newspapers this morning an I new what the main article would be, but seriously,
they're actually giving this incident MORE coverage than the Boston Massacre last week, ah well, you can always rely on the media
22 Apr 2013 11:27:24
This whole Luis Suarez bite thing is completely out of hand. I mean was I watching a different game or am I slightly biased towards Liverpool but to me it looked like Ivanovic arm barged into suarez's mouth. Probablt should have been a penalty
Agreed. I'm sure I remember Cantona saying that the fan fell into his leg after the kick incident.
I seem to recall Duncan Ferguson saying that the players nose fell onto his forehead.
That might come in handy that one.
Cheers lid.
DaveyBootle
To the OP are you crazy. He clearly moved Ivanovic hand towards him and bit it. He is a liability but also the 3rd best player in the world. I would keep him.
22 Apr 2013 11:20:47
Is anyone else a little bit embarrased that Celtic wrapped up the SPL, Gillingham wrapped up L2, Cardiff the championship, Barnet FC (managed by player-manager Edgar Davids) played their last ever game at the stadium they've been at for 106 years and Spurs had a brilliant and inspired comeback against the reigning champions (until tonight) all in the football world alone - much more including a brilliant tennis match between Federrer and Nadal and some horrific racing by Perez in F1 - happened this weekend. But all that is appearing on the tv is Suarez Suarez Suarez. yes it's huge news, but a lot of good and bad things happened this weekend - could some of it be covered as well?
I wonder if you'd of sent that post if Liverpool won 2 1 and the bite didn't happen, and all the press coverage was about how well Liverpool played? No, I thought not. 007
What a fantastically stupid reply - if there was still an incident that the tv believed rendered all other news unimportant, I would still complain. If there was no such incident, the tv wouldn't be going on about it and ignoring all other news so why would I make that comment?
How hard can this be for you to understand? Its not rocket science. If Liverpool had of won and the papers had of been full of how great a performance it was, would you of been saying how harsh the lack of coverage was for Celtic, Gillingham et al, there, not that hard was it?
As I answered, yes I would and that wouldn't happen anyway. I had the exact same complaint when we beat spurs and something else that I now don't remember happened
Well I'm sorry but I can't believe that you would rather read about the Grand Prix, Gillingham and others rather than Liverpool, I think you're fibbing
22 Apr 2013 11:19:27
Official! FA to punish Suarez,
he now faces 6 six week sentence
of being an editor on the Liverpool Rumours
web page.
Poorbugger
22 Apr 2013 11:17:57
Why was my post taken down?. I didn't see a problem with it. strange {Ed002's Note - I have no idea but there has been a fair amount of abuse this morning directed at players, the owners, the manager, the Eds and other posters so it may have gone as part of a cleansing exercise.}
Fair enough Mr 002. It was only a reference to conspiracy theorists on here. anyone would think we played at Roswell. pmsl
22 Apr 2013 10:50:28
Now, I appreciate that the Google Ads appear based on cookies and individual searches etc, but there is absolutely no fabucking way I've been searching for hair transplants!
Wayne Rooney is amongst us I suspect.
DaveyBootle
Well I'm pulling my hair out at the moment because of Luis's antics.
I've been getting boob enlargements? Hope that was down to the missus' google searches.
No DaveyBootle
You are more in need of a brain transplant
Sorry, I meant to clear the cookies.
I think if you use Opera you can change the settings to block ads and other garbage appearing on your browser.
unfortunately you can't stop Disney! posting lol
Your Ma said I had a big head also anonymous poster!
DaveyBootle
You cannot stop me posting, well Ed002 can, but 'Simple Adblock' will block all ads and you can get it from Mozilla extensions, Google Chrome apps, Internet explorer etc etc.
Disney!
22 Apr 2013 10:53:02
hi ed's I know you said you dnt want 2 talk about it today but just a quick 1 with what suarez done yesterday do you think if the club were to sell due to them having enough with him not that us fans want him to go but do you think this would make any team interested in him not want 2 pay as much for him i. e if we thought he was worth say 80 mill do u think the price will drop now with what he has done me personally think suarez's best way to try and help himself now is to donate a months wages to a charity of ivanovic's choice thnx for all the good work ed's {Ed002's Note - It really is not a matter for today - folks are a little too emotional right now.}
Gd reply ed 002 ynwa lfc linc
It's a very sad day, one of my chilli plants was eaten by a snail.
RIP Peach Bhut Jolokia.
Disney!
I would have thought snails would avoid chilli.
22 Apr 2013 10:45:46
The media reaction to suarez is getting out of hand. yes what he did was appalling, yes he should be punished, but the way the media are going on you'd think the guy was a middle Eastern dictator. Actually felt sorry for Brendan Rodgers during his post match press conference yesterday. One thing that is crystal clear is that with regards to the press they definitely know who they can grill and who to leave alone (mention no names).
22 Apr 2013 10:33:30
Not as bad as first thought, Ivanovic fair play doesn't want to press charges and PFA offering anger management. If we can get a muzzle for him I think we'll see him play fir us again.
22 Apr 2013 10:32:32
Love him or loathe him, suarez is by far the best player in the league fact!. In other news Jamie carragher has just released Fernando torres from his pocket.
Bale? .
Who's Bale?
If the league started when Bale started being better than decent, Liverpool would be 3rd
22 Apr 2013 20:08:35
@Cozinoz
Bale is a small club from North London.
22 Apr 2013 10:21:51
Huge outcry from cockney/manc media today over Suarez. Hope the club don't yield to the ridiculous pressure to sell. Bottom line is Suarez us world class and, despite the trouble he brings, he also gives world class performances on a weekly basis - if we have ambitions for CL football we cannot sell him. Top teams don't sell their best players irrespective of any indiscretions they commit.
SMc
22 Apr 2013 10:49:32
me too.
and at the current situation. we cannot replace him at any cost. not even with 50 mill. no one will come to us.
He is a top class player. who brings magic when he is on the pitch.
can score. from anywhere.
who else can bang you 30 goals + and 5-10 assist and am ready to play for a Non CL club.
I agree, can`t believe the amount of media coverage on this, tv have been on about it all morning, what he did was embarrassing for himself and the club, toddlers know it`s wrong to bite!, I can`t come up with any defence for him except that it wasn`t a career ending incident for ivanovic, unlike the mcmanaman tackle the other week or the two footed stamp by aguero on luiz, we should fine him and ban him for a few games but not sell him. The media is doing this to death just because it`s suarez. i`ve seen worse injuries
Come on girls, sort it out, the lad has history of similar incidents. Let's not kid ourselves the scum-bag media would not be all over this.
Suarez has done himself no favours. end of.
DaveyBootle
I agree re the media. They like nothing more than a well justified crusade against a villain. They have to do something to justify their fluffy existence that is actually no more than regurgitating 2nd hand BS to flog papers and ad space in most cases. I've never met a journo that is not absolutely full of themselves and thinks that because he can cobble together a few words is the de facto opinion on everything.
I do think Suarez will get a lengthy ban though and that's appropriate. Probably 7 plus games which will hurt us.
22 Apr 2013 10:13:44
Yesterday we seen the bad suarez giving away a penalty, the good his sublime ball for sturridge to score, the dam right ugly, his attack on ivanovic, and the the brilliant his last gasp goal. while it's pretty clear the guy is a head case, you cannot denied what a brilliant player he is.
Exactly
You just have to take the good with the bad and the ugly
Suarez is a fighter never say die type of person if you take that away from him he would be much less of a player
The Jester
22 Apr 2013 10:08:32
There is absolutely no excuse for what suarez did yesterday, he let everyone down associated with the club, including himself. The guy has some kind of character flaw, the red mist just appears sometimes. But let's put things into perspective, there is no way we should thing about selling him, he is our only genuinely world class player, who plays his heart out everytime he steps on the pitch. I dread to think we're we'd be this season without him. yes he deserves to be punished, but the media are taking it way too far simply because it's suarez. I've seen a lot worse, like a certain man u player flying kicking a supporter, another united player openly admitting to trying to injure a player. I've seen two Newcastle players brawl with each other on the pitch, yet the media reaction was nowhere near as bad as it is now.
22 Apr 2013 09:50:17
Does anyone reckon suarez has done this to engineer a move away from Liverpool, just thinking but is it a plausible way of him doing it cheers pk
22 Apr 2013 10:52:45
He actually loves Liverpool than most of the fans here.
he is a true red through and through.
He loves scoring and playing in front of the Kop.
He will never push for a move unless we sell him.
I am damm confident about it.
He bit yesterday coz. he was frustuated and worried because he gaved a penalty and he wasnt able to save our team.
no one would bite or atatck anyone without a reason.
And the guyn scored. and that's what the GOD almighty wanna show.
Its luis suarez rescues when, shelvey and gerrard missed a sitter.
Dont sell him.
poeple will easily forget, very easily
Luis is a disgrace as a player, and Harry is a disgrace as a fan. Absolutely disgusting to hear anyone say that Suarez being angry about giving a penalty away has a reason to bite another person. You a person mate, do as you promised and stop posting dribble, because it's making me not want to use the page. Pathetic
22 Apr 2013 12:29:13
And the last poster is the biggest Liverpool fan who actually don't have a name.
execptional.
I am sure you are worried chelsea fan who is let down by a manager who loves Liverpool and probably out of the CL.
To be fair mate Harry is wrong. There is no excuse for biting. Its a view though and he's allowed to air it. If that means that you no longer use the board then surely he wins?
John aldridge said after the game he thinks suarez did it to engeneer a move away
22 Apr 2013 09:50:17
Does anyone reckon suarez has done this to engineer a move away from Liverpool, just thinking but is it a plausible way of him doing it cheers pk
Mate you need to stop reading the cloak and dagger novels and a wee bit more Mills and Boon!
The Irish Rover
Yea yea Irish Rover - the mills and boom thing is a bit old now. Get head out of Ozones a*** and think of something yourself.
Fowler99
Lol I am always on the conspiracy site on here cheers pk
22 Apr 2013 09:38:47
Hi eds i'm assuming that suarez has as good as handed in a transfer request with his shokcing antics yesturday. Do you think that any team would stump up the money to buy him now or do you think that fsg would accept a lower offer to be rid? Also do you see lfc buying more attacking players if he were to be sold given there defence needs some real attention? Ajh316 {Ed002's Note - See previous answers please.}
22 Apr 2013 09:35:37
I'm an LFC fan and although I thought we did well
against Chelsea yesterday, I can help thinking we
were lucky also. Sturridge and Suarez could have
got red cards. There were six minutes of extra time
and we equialised in +6. 47! Lest face it these are Fergie minutes. My biggest feeling was that Rafa did
us a massive favour in the Chelsea team selection.
He selected Torres and stuck with him for 90 minutes,
while every other manager in the world could have seen how in effective he was and would have subbed him. If he'd have played Ba up front he would have destroyed Carra at the back. He did not play Lampard, nor bring on Terry once they were 2-1 up. This taken with the after match interview from Rafa, it was a clear message from Rafa to Liverpool. I think he did not have the heart to beat us.
Rafa still loves the club, but make no mistake- he is keen to build on his reputation, and he was taking no prisoners yesterday during the game- he wanted the win.
The Chelsea fans mustve been pretty annoyed at him not giving Ba a chance though, you could see it just wasn't going to be Torres' day.
22 Apr 2013 09:35:27
As far as the Camera's could show it was Bratislav's forearm that tried to attack suarez teeth and luis is totally not to blame infact Luis should be get an apology from that pesky forearm {Ed002's Note - Or perhaps you could thank Ivanovic for telling the police he does not wish to press charges saving Suarez and Liverpool considerable additional grief over this matter.}
I'm presuming the police received a complaint from a member of the public then ed, to get involved?
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - Several.}
Luis should take time, when he is inevitably banned, to drive down and apologise and thank Ivanovic personally then.
Fair play to Rafa and Chelsea as well afterwards.
The Juicer
22 Apr 2013 09:34:11
The premiership needs Suarez, we'll miss him when he's gone
He's a fperson. but I still love him
22 Apr 2013 09:21:26
Any news of Jonathan Dos Santos? Seen a few reports. {Ed002's Note - Nope.}
22 Apr 2013 09:17:25
Suarez is a great player but he's let himself down, he's let the club down, he's let the people who stood by him last season (including Kenny) down, he's let the fans down. There is no defence for the indefensible, the book should be thrown at him by both the club and the FA. There are no excuses for that and there's no disputing what he's done.
22 Apr 2013 09:01:55
Well kids, another incident and more unnecessary attention on the club and player.
As much as I have defended players and managers alike over many years of posting on these pages, you simply cannot defend actions of that nature.
Still, as a biased fan with an undeniable love for him as a player, I can't help think that he will continue to learn from his (sometimes huge) mistakes. In his defence, he is learning slowly, but will continue to cast a lingering shadow over a club which is struggling to stand after being on it's knees for many years now.
It's down to him now to grow up and be counted. If he won't grow up then he won't continue to grow with the club. Simple as that.
DaveyBootle
22 Apr 2013 09:01:46
eds with the scandal of yesterdays match can you answer a few questions a) will we sell suarez, what sort of fee? b) will his value be lower because of his antics c) is the likes of cavani realistic because of the sale of suarez and finally d) who do you think should replace him if we do sell? Your thoughts and opinions would be appreciated! Smith0069 {Ed002's Note - (a) I am not going to answer the first question. (b) No. (c) No. (d) This has already been done to death and I don't see this as an appropriate time to raise it again.}
22 Apr 2013 09:02:25
I think we should strongly punish Suarez,
lets make him play for Liverpool next season,
instead of selling him for 40 million to Real Madrid.
22 Apr 2013 08:52:34
Top o the mornin to ye lads
Just wondering is there any truth to the logic remy rumours in the papers that Liverpool are interested in him now Qpr are pretty much gone from the prem? Surely if we had of been interested we would have tried to get him in January?!
I know I'm not the first to ask and won't be the last but do you think the club will finally say enough is enough with Suarez and just sell him because of his disgraceful on field antics constantly overshadowing his undoubted genius?
Cheers boys, love the site {Ed002's Note - I think the Remy "rumours" are likely just speculation right now.}
22 Apr 2013 08:43:28
Its such a shame that sport takes a backseat over such an incident. People will not remember this game for the brilliantly crafted goal by Suarez and finish by Sturridge and then last minute equalizer by a pin point cross by Sturridge and brilliant header by Suarez which got us probably the first point earned in injury time whole season! I am not here to condone what Suarez did or intended but let's reason it out. Was that intention more malicious than a two footed lunge which can break a leg or ruin the career?
In probably every match we see tackles at shin/knee height but cause it does not catches referees eye goes unpunished. What Suarez did should be condemned and a suspension/fine may be invoked but I hate media/soccer pundits/opposition managers etc making a life out of such incident. He is a great player and Liverpool Club needs him no matter how much we chant that nobody is bigger than club. His value will take a hit as this story drags and if LFC is looking to offload him for these reasons then I am sure other bigger clubs have far more bigger sponsors and investors and wage structure and debts. Will they take the risk? I don't think so.
On the contrary if other bigger clubs can carry the baggage of Suarez then why can't we.
Indian with Red Heart
22 Apr 2013 08:38:51
Getting back to the game yesterday I thought there were some very poor performances. Gerrard, Carragher, Coutinho, Downing and Henderson were very poor indeed. Also once again NO ATMOSPHERE AT ANFIELD.
I thought Carra was great, with the exception of his defending for their opening goal. Downing was involved in both our goals and I thought Hendo had a fine second half. Coutinho definitely struggled though, didn't cope we'll with them closing him down so quickly
Really mr/mrs no-name?
I agree some players you mentioned had a poor day like henderson and coutinho. perhaps should have changed things midway through the 1st half to give Rafa/Chelsea something to think about.
But the closing comment of no atmosphere is clearly one coming from someone who didn't go the game. I was in the lower Kop and when we weren't singing for the team there was plenty of funny chelsea chants, chants for Anne Williams and obviously some for Rafa.
misterdrumz
22 Apr 2013 08:38:30
On a brighter note we played Chelsea of the pitch yesterday. Should has had more then the 2 we scored.
Definitely started the 2nd half well (again) but really need to be much more clinical in the box.
shelvey's miss simply shouldn't have happened, lack of game time shouldn't come into it. an open goal is a gift, makes your job easier. should have been a goal.
glad for the equaliser but leaves a bitter taste considering how many missed opportunities there were.
misterdrumz
22 Apr 2013 08:37:16
Right I'll be the guy to bring it up. With Suarez being attacked by everyone saying that he should get a huge ban, fines etc and then be sold I've got to say that I think its being blown out of proportion just because its Suarez. Yes I think its appalling behaviour and personally I think he should be banned but the fact is that Defoe got a yellow card for biting mascherano and I can't help but notice that the British media has seemingly neglected to mention that point. Also love the Uruguayan media saying that most of them are taking it light heartedly saying that he is hungry for goals. Just thought I'd point it out and again highlight the hypocrisy of the media and victimisation of Suarez. Love any feedback. Jimbo
Its not the first time suarez has done it, ban him
It may not be the first time suarez has done something like this but also think of the roy keane incident he openly admitted he wanted to end another players career which he suceeded in doing which should have seen him banned for life yet was allowed to continue playing so this shows the media have blown it all out of proportion because it is suarez and yes you cannot deny it was a disgusting act that deserves punishment we must also take into account he also apologized to not only the club/fans but also to ivanovic and that he realized he had done wrong and showed he was trying to make amends for his behaviour
22 Apr 2013 08:37:05
How can supporters say that Henderson is a ready made replacement for Gerrard, he is no-where and never will be anywhere near him.
22 Apr 2013 12:31:06
The same one who said. shelvey is a readymade replacement of gerrard.
still can't belive. he missed a sitter yesterday.
22 Apr 2013 08:35:46
Was at the match yesterday and getting away from the Suarez incident (which I personally hope the FA and LFC throw the book at him) I thought Downing and Henderson and Coutinho were hopeless, especially Henderson.
22 Apr 2013 08:33:21
All I'll say on the Suarez bite is this. My 2 year old son knows not to bite another child at nursery, as it's harmful and wrong. How can an adult of 26 years have this sense of what's right and wrong. To me it was a cowardly unprovoked act, by a petulant and troubled human being in need of therapy.
In reality no harm has been made physically. But the damage to an already fragile club reputation globally, both within the media and fan base could force FSG's hand. Losing our only world class player would make is much weaker on the pitch, but can we really stick by a player so intent hitting the self destruct button, everytime things aren't going his way?
Papa G
22 Apr 2013 08:31:35
Suarez needs to be banned from football for six months and Liverpool need to suspend his wages for that amount of time and I am a Suarez fan and a LFC season ticket holder but what he done was awful.
22 Apr 2013 08:28:43
How much more can Suarez ALONE bring our famous club down, we are hated because of him.
22 Apr 2013 11:04:57
we are hated coz. we are in 8th position from past 4 seasons.
common don't stop rubbish reputation here.
show the reputation on the pitcha nd get us a title can u?
22 Apr 2013 08:09:56
#Tahmid Red {Ed002's Note - Did Liverpool advertise for retromingent glifnards as fans or did you just stumble in to the job? Suarez is a complete jerk and has been for years - there has never been any doubt about that - but he is a very talented footballer.}
Yep, Suarez and Cantona and Zidane are all behavioural jerks but you wouldn't want to sell any of them.
22 Apr 2013 08:09:25
I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but did no-one notice when Ivanovic was at the touchline getting a drink Rafa innocently patted him on the arm, he was in fact smearing him with honey to entice Luis. When the furore of the biting incident occurred again no-one noticed Rafa fiddling with the extra time board and adding 6 extra mins to it. Also the reason Torres was so dire, the reason is simply that it was not Fernando Torres playing, it was in fact that well known lookalike Brain Higgins, that's why he was wearing a mask, Torres is in fact tied up in Rafa's cellar on the Wirral, whilst Rafa awaits to be reinstated at his beloved Liverpool, by then Suarez will be gone, Chelsea will want rid of Torres, Rafa will bring him to Liverpool, release the real Torres from the cellar and his form will miraculously reappear. Hope this explains a few things.
Dav
You are completely out of your mind man!
Not even weed can do this to you!
Lil Red
22 Apr 2013 07:57:38
I see everyone is getting their teeth into to Louis problem. Whatever his street fighter faults, I think he is one of the most talented footballer to wear a red shirt. Just think how pleased old Whisky nose will be if he is sold. I say for all his faults that you will never find a gem of talent like him again.
Thomo's nose
22 Apr 2013 07:55:45
In the modern footballing era, where players are cosseted and feigned over by agents and advisors etc, players have come to see themselves as invincible, untouchable and above the normal moral 'laws' people live their daily lives by. If, for example, I was out walking yesterday and somebody maybe knocked into me on the street, it's not acceptable for me to then try and bite them, I'd be locked up, and quite rightly so. But footballers somehow think it's ok to do things like this. Luis Suarez is a magical footballer, a player who can do wondrous things with a football, BUT he is in this class of footballer who believes he's above the law. Regardless of anything else, what he did yesterday was wrong and stupid, and will, in my opinion, lead to his departure. I'm a lifelong Liverpool fan (34 years and counting) and I love football, but this kind of player attitude is starting to drain my enthusiasm for the game.
My point is this, regardless of how good he is, regardless of how much we will miss him as a team, what he did is inexcusable and he needs to go. Last chance saloon was long ago in my opinion. A sad day.
22 Apr 2013 07:52:38
So. that's it.
Luis suarez will be sold in the summer.
probbaly that will be the end of the small hopes of CL next season.
Its Impossible to replace him because he is such a talent his moment of magic on the pitch gives Liverpool goals assits everything.
No matter how much money we get we wil not replace him suerly this summer.
He has single handeldy carried us with some flop signings on and off the bench.
Liverpools current position is just because of that man hard effort.
No player is bigger than the club, But honestly where does our club stands now.
consecutive 7th to 8th position from past 4 years.
Another Real Transition looming next season.
We cannot buy world class players.
Sad But he will be sold.
22 Apr 2013 09:50:33
Especially when we have a far superior win record without him
22 Apr 2013 09:50:33
Especially when we have a far superior win record without him
Nobody is bigger than the club. I hope he turns around & just concentrate on his football.
Just that, I don't want the Liverpool name to be tarnished even more!
22 Apr 2013 12:32:39
We are already being compared to the History channel. Medicore mid table club. a club with no ambition and no CL from years.
what else you have to drag?
22 Apr 2013 07:36:01
Liverpool knew what they were getting when they brought Suarez. In holland he was as bad as joey Barton was here when he left the country.
You can't blindly defend him because he wears a Liverpool shirt, imagine how our fans would be reacting today had John terry scored an equaliser after biting carragher!
Get real he is damaged goods lots if geniuses are, what means more the clubs reputation around the world or Suarez career at the club.
He may choose to leave now if so fare well thanks for the memories.
22 Apr 2013 06:55:33
with the latest Suarez incident, this is his way of saying, i'm out of this club, sell me to the highest bidder. with the money generated from his sale and few others, BR can then set up a team with his style of play. yet again some pain before any gains. another couple of years mid table finishes.
If it wasn't for Suarez and his goals, we would be in the bottom 7 not the top. I would also go as a far to say that Suarez has kept BR in a job! If he leaves I would give BR half a season at most before he's gone. A lot of money spent and no Europe, just not good enough! Sturridge had a point to prove yesterday and don't see why he did not start the game, poor management again!
If it wasn't for Suarez and his goals, we would be in the bottom 7 not the top. I would also go as a far to say that Suarez has kept BR in a job! If he leaves I would give BR half a season at most before he's gone. A lot of money spent and no Europe, just not good enough! Sturridge had a point to prove yesterday and don't see why he did not start the game, poor management again!
People are forgetting we've played relatively well when he's not been in the side, particularly this year.
OK, when he plays we can *sometimes* seem on another level but the group we have are more than capable of playing well without him. Don't forget that prior to yesterday LS has had a few poor games where he hasn't scored. Would we have been worse off if he hadn't played those games?
Liverpool are not a one man team and it would be remiss to simply say without Suarez we'd be circling the drain.
misterdrumz
22 Apr 2013 06:35:14
I always like to look for a positive, this time I've got two. With the likely ban kicking in soon, we will get to see Sturridge as the main striker. His half yesterday, caused as much impact as anyone I've seen come on for a club this season. His pace electric, his drive, skill and intent exceptional. It's a shame that he hasn't played for more clubs, as he always seems to raise his game against former employers.
The second is Jordan Ibe and perhaps others! I see a spot on the bench/even in the side unless Sterling/Borini are fit. I know it's bold but Coutinho is flagging a little (could do with some stamina training this summer) and without LS, we really lack someone who will commit defenders and run at them. let's hope he gets fit and gets a chance!0
Papa G
22 Apr 2013 05:38:18
Suarez's behaviour is inexcusable and will be rightly punished! However regardless what the media advocate we must not sell not attempt to sell Suarez for disciplinary reasons (if he does leave it should be footballing reasons and in his case he might leave due to no champions league football). Suarez will accept the ban and any internal sanctions. The club have apologised so we move on. We will do are best to change him and work with him. The media have no right to dictate who Liverpool should keep or sell.
22 Apr 2013 05:20:35
Whether or not Suarez stays or goes, what the hell was he thinking? Why would you bite another player? It just doesn't seem to make any sense.
AussieLFC
22 Apr 2013 02:27:50
i don't like rodgers as a coach. it seems he he prejudges players as not good enough they sit the bench half a year then all of a sudden they pay to great applauds. likewise players that were playing to great praise all of a sudden disappear. I think he has pesonel problems with players and he let's it affect his decisions. maybe if shelvey had some playing time once and a while he would have hit that goal today.
Shelvey misses these type of chances all the time. He thinks he is better than he is. No excuse to miss that type of chance when your a paid pro. Hitting the target is bare minimum.
I take it cali your not a utd fan cause cantona and keane were certainly supported by utd fans in them dark days eh lad. Now surely that's disgraceful MR hypocrite even in your your bubble! And before the edds say cantona etc have nothing to do with the suarez case alls i'm pointing out to these other fans is other clubs too have had players do wrong so don't come the bull by pretending otherwise
22 Apr 2013 01:45:22
i would feel embarrassed to have to try and support a player that bites another player. what a disgrace to an already disgraced club
Cali
Easy to kick a man when he is down. let's support the bloke and watch him score plenty more in a red shirt after his deserved punishment. We still can't get enough.
Get over it!
When I was playing football we regularly bit each other!
Look on the funny side
Suarez is now going to make Vampire movies the first one to be releszed will be "Taste the Blood of Ivanovic"
The Jester
An already disgraced club, care to explain? Of course in recent years there’s been one incident that springs to mind but the club have dealt with that and its hardly fair to blame the club for something that has been dealt with by them, Fair enough Blame the Player and never forgive. There many clubs out there with disgraced players but due to the modern game and the finances that have got a firm grip around the throat of sport particularly football. If there was no transfer value on players then Liverpool could afford to fire him for gross misconduct. Maybe if Liverpool and the majority of other clubs had an endless supply of money they could fire him. Unfortunately, neither case is applicable and Liverpool have to deal with this whilst trying to get the best financial result so they can continue to exist and compete in modern game. I feel sorry for Liverpool they have now got to deal with this PR nightmare whilst trying to maintain the stance that they still want the player so that his value remains and other teams don’t think they can get him cut price. Don’t bet against other premier league clubs coming in for him even though Liverpool are being blasted for owning him. Its not the first club to deal with this, united did it with Cantona (despite Cantona being right to drop kick that person). There was a joke perception about defoe mascherano incident. I know its always worse with Suarez because he's a constant offender but to take cheap shots at a club because of an person who’s got them by the balls is unfair.
He has praised him for scoring 30 goals nothing more fella. Ahh has that really upset you that much you fickle so and so.
22 Apr 2013 01:35:31
Congratulations to Luis on scoring thirty goals this season. Hopefully even more to come next year.
Mantis.
How can you congratulate Luis, he is a disgrace to himself, the club, the supporters and everyone who stood by him. It sickens me to watch what he done yesterday. Please, please do not praise him.
Probably a backhanded way to say that he won't likely be scoring any more this season if you catch my drift.
misterdrumz
22 Apr 2013 00:40:32
Eds, just a quick question. Can we still qualify for Europa if we finish in 6th above our neighbours everton or are now without even Europa for next season now for definate? I though 6th gets Europa too, or is that only if from a team from 1st - 5th win the camps league or Europa? Please clarify!
Cheers. Jimerny cricket {Ed002's Note - 6th will not get Europa this season.}
22 Apr 2013 00:21:00
Hi Eds.
Any idea what the "sanction" imposed on LS might be (if found guilty that is).
Suppose this will effectively end his chances of the PFA award, and potentially the golden boot (if he is banned for a few). {Ed002's Note - There is no point speculating about any punishment.}
Voting has already finished for the PFA, I believe the FWA is what is still being decided/counted. And in a funny way surely the Football Writers will vote for Luis if only for how much material and stories they are able to churn out about him :)
If action is taken about his meltdown yesterday then I'd imagine the results would be 'altered' so not to bring the process into disrepute. and to be honest it's only right after what he's done sadly.
misterdrumz
21 Apr 2013 23:39:25
What a fickle bunch some of you all are.
Most posters have been vilified by others who have even dared to suggest Suarez ought to be sold previously. Now so many want him out. ridiculous!
Yes the media will create a storm castigating Luis, they'll use anything they can to bring the FA to impose a huge ban on him.
Ex players have come on the box saying how outrageous Luis was. and as for Souness coming on the box spouting verbal garbage - well maybe he ought to reflect on his past misdemeanours as a player - he was hardly a paragon of virtue!
My take is that we ought to stand by and support Luis -he made a 5 second mistake - an act of rashness that shames him more than the club.
So pipe down people, he wears his heart on his sleeve and his will to win for the cause is incredible.
He'll be punished by the club and patented as a monster by the Press. This is a time to support him, not throw him out to the dogs to savage him.
He has a fuse that needs to be tempered - he's a mad genius who the media wants to savage.
We can't defend his actions, but he'll be punished.
So - back the player, he made a mistake, how of us can say we are perfect. , because right now Luis is going to be slung out to the baying wolves.!
M
Suarez is a self-confessed cheat and a diver; he has been found guilty by the FA or racial language; he has been banned by Dutch FA for biting; he has admitted biting Ivanovic.
Any such "player" has no business at a club of the stature of Liverpool who are one of the most successful and respected clubs in the world (never mind just in Europe or England).
Suarez must go, and go NOW.
Mike
Nah, I'd like to keep Suarez thanks. Give him a ban for disgraceful behaviour, some counselling, and get him back up front as soon as possible
21 Apr 2013 23:32:03
IMO LS is trying to engineer his way out of LFC without losing face. Will plead undying love for club, fans, city etc but quietly hopes that club will move him on because of bad publicity etc.
Red Knight
22 Apr 2013 01:03:33
I'm Liverpool supporter still I past on to the next life but you can't and I will not defend the actions of Suarez today. I really think we should get rid of him and he should not be allowed to wear a Liverpool or play for Liverpool again.
A very sad day for LFC!!!!!!!!!!!.
YNWA! don't forget it!
Quite agree, what he done yesterday was disgraceful, he is bringing our club down not just in this country but worldwide. The owners and management should get rid of him in the summer.
The more I read the LFC supporters comments in this matter I am encouraged by many and confused by others
To these that are holding their hands up and say their is a problem well done to those that try to make out its something and nothing then you really need to stand back and reflect.
To those that say had the ref seen it that would be the end of it, well quite simply it wouldn't have been. The would have revisited the matter just as they did when Hazard was sent off over the ball boy incident. The FA rules state they can charge a player when the normal punishment is clearly not enough.
Next to those that state the Defoe incident well the FA discipline code in 2009 (I think that was when he bit a player)was different to code in place today
He will get 3 games as he would have been sent off, this tariff will be automatically doubled as this is the starting point when such a charge is laid down however it won't end there for three reasons the first he has already been the subject of a FA charge where he was warned about his future conduct, he has also committed such an offence before and finally there are no mitigating circumstances.
So let's take a guess of how many games. Well having looked at the FAs track record my guess is 12 games as a minimum
22 Apr 2013 09:18:24
I agree his actions were wrong but sell him? No. We all know he's going to battered by the FA but I believe his sentance will be the same as joey bartons in that if we did sell him to BAyern Munich (for example) the ban would cover the games for them as well. So why would another club want to buy a player who isn't available? and we certanly woudn't get his true market price
I think he'll get a 6 game ban and a hefty fine. He needs to get his head down, going home to Uruguay while the issue blows over and come back next season.
If the ban is extreme I certainly hope the club mentions the defoe/mascherano biting incient were nothing was done by the FA
They say genisues are floored and Luis certianly falls into both categories. I for one hope he doesn't get sold and if he is still here next year I will sing his name on match day.
22 Apr 2013 00:56:26
Suarez is a silly boy, giving all the haters, including the media, the excuse to crucify him. I think delibrately breaking a fellow professionals leg and ending his career was worse than this show of temper, or jumping into the crowd an kicking the paying public was just as bad, at least Ivanovic will play the next game! let's keep this in perspective.
Finally, someone sees the sense
22 Apr 2013 00:16:15
Just watched the match highlights on MOTD2--DREADFUL MARKING BY cARRRAGHER FOR THE FIRST GOAL--HOPE THI SIS HIS LAST SEASON--HE NEEDS TO GO BEFORE HE DESTROYS HIS OWN REPUTATION WHY DO FOOTBALLERS ALWAYS HANG ON FOR ONE SEASON TOO MANY
My opinion of it was Agger was covering Oscar and Carra was just trying to cover for him since he didn't follow Oscar out.
Agger was initially marking Oscar, not Carragher. When Oscar darted out from the goalmouth, Agger (my favourite by the way) didn't move with him. Carragher naturally moved to where the ball was heading as Oscar was unmarked.
Burkeyboy.
Obviously you didn't watch the game properly or you would see that Agger let Oscar go and Carragher then went after him to make up for Agger’s mistake (not the first time this season this has happened with Agger)
Go watch how Varane and Ramos scored this year against Barca, specifically what Pique was doing. And then go unplug your keyboard and stop bothering the grown ups
It was Agger who lost his man for the corner. Not Carra.
Worth pointing out that Lucas goes from cover near post to standing behind pepe reina for no reason what so ever, what can he do ther other than get in pepe's way
21 Apr 2013 23:23:07
I really do think Rafa handled the media in a very dignified way I respect him for doing that, he really was hammered by the media but he kept giving them cold answers not what they wanted to hear. A true gentleman.
A true legend. your a 100 percent rite I myself clapped after he's interview because he's helped to save saurez. amazing person total respect.
Rafa was a good lad in that interview yesterday alright.
Poor Rodgers, I felt sorry for him, love him or hate him, he was put in a really bad situation having to go out and do an interview after what happened
21 Apr 2013 23:33:08
Lost in all the suarez headlines was daniel sturridge! He was awesome today and Liverpool would have lost had it not been for him so well done! Showed them what they missing out on!
Actually it was down to both Daniel Sturridge and Suarez but I get your point.
Yes sturridge played well when he came on and changed the game for us but you could argue that he could of been sent off with that studs up challenge don't forget!