Liverpool Banter Archive September 21 2015

 

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21 Sep 2015 21:01:14
I went to the game yesterday and I thought it was our best performance of the season by far, we played with a lot of intensity especially first half, and was very unlucky not to take our chances in the second, we played very well, great to Sturridge back, and Ings get his first goal, if we play like that we will win more than we lose.

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21 Sep 2015 21:16:45
Not sure what game you went to but it can't have been the Liverpool match. You realise it was Norwich we played and not Real Madrid?

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21 Sep 2015 21:21:26
It's your job to be there Brendan

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21 Sep 2015 21:32:55
People will be blinded by the result and hate for Rodgers.

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21 Sep 2015 21:41:09
Mighty Red- I went too and I thought we were nothing more than ok. I thought Sahko, Lucas and Ings did well and that's about it? Studge although great to see is obviously miles off the pace yet. Milner, Can, and Migs were quite poor. I'm trying to be glass half full but, I don't think we're close to a top 4 side. Hope I'm wrong

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21 Sep 2015 22:46:53
I agree mighty, he needs this season at least. a bit of stability wouldn't go a miss either maybe a new contract?

It would be sad to see him go imo.

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21 Sep 2015 22:47:01
blinded by the result?! how can you even suggest such a thing mighty reds? what is else is there to play in football other than the result - and in this case 1 1 home to norwhich says it all

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21 Sep 2015 21:41:11
Classic Dunphy

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21 Sep 2015 23:06:20
Mighty reds - Is it a huge revalation that results matter in sport? You are aware that very few teams would lose points to Norwich at home this season? Do you think 8 points out of 6 games and 13 in the league table is not enough a reason for people to be critical? They need to be blinded by hate for BR to think that it is not good enough?

Very few teams will let us so much space. If we cannot take advantage of our chances against Norwich what should we do against the likes of Chelsea or City?

By the way missing our chances, being wasteful and not making the most of control and possesion was one of our main problems last year. It is nothing new or one offish.

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21 Sep 2015 23:20:48
We played okay against a side we should be beating, and it was an improvement over previous performances this season on the basis that:

1) We had two center backs who were prepared to bring the ball out themselves once in a while, rather than going through Lucas every time (usually after a painful number of touches in which they go nowhere), giving us more than one route to build attacks from the back.

2) We had genuine width on both flanks, and seemed to have some sort of coherent attempt to get balls into the box to our forwards. Moreno probably attempted more crosses in that game than the entire team did in the previous 5.

Both of these things gave us a bit of much needed variety in our play.

It is something to build on, but we still lacked composure & control in possession and relied on Coutinho too much when we kept the ball for more than a few passes. And when you also consider the fact playing like utter garbage since at least last March, you'll have to excuse people for not falling over themselves with excitement about one point and a performance that was decent, but not exactly something you could describe as good.

Nothing to do with being "blinded by the result and hate".

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21 Sep 2015 23:45:59
I thought we did ok yesterday. Thought Sakho had a good game as did Moreno but I don't know where everyone gets this Lucas stuff from. I must be missing something because he is shocking for me. Not mobile enough, not strong enough, can't pass, can't shoot, gets caught in front of the ball all the time then gives away dangerous free kicks by trying to recover.

As yourself this, would he get in any top 10 side in the premier league? I don't think he would. Don't get me wrong I love his attitude and he's been through hell at our club and come out the other side showing what a great human being he is but as a player? Not for me.

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22 Sep 2015 00:10:06
So then you think Milner played much better.

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22 Sep 2015 00:19:22
Mighty Reds is just a wind up or Brendan's new bird. Ignore.

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22 Sep 2015 01:59:19
Milner was rubbish in the first half and slightly better in the second.
Lucas was his usual self, won the ball, often gave it away plus lots of fouls. He was not the best but also not the worst.
We looked better in the second half but I'm a long way off being satisfied.

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22 Sep 2015 08:47:49
Lucas was excellent, he was the reason we created our goal by pressing the ball high up and turning over possession.

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22 Sep 2015 14:53:04
Agree on lucas. He's got a problem giving dangerous free kicks away and always has had. Mignolet wants dropping again. Good to see Ings have a impact. The guy has desire which a lot of our players don't seem to have. I must admit milner has been a disaster upto now, wins the ball gives it away. The manager can't take all the blame but should of been sacked in summer and the players need a reality check

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21 Sep 2015 20:17:09
Eds so you know a helpline number I think I'm losing it. Stan Collymore is on talk sport and it seems like he is talking sense. think I'm losing it

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21 Sep 2015 20:39:58
Call the Samaritans, or any dogging helpline

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21 Sep 2015 20:14:15
Hi Ed001

You heard anything about Rodgers being anymore under the cosh over ladt few days after recent run of results? I no its been said he will get the full season but surely that can't be the case if results don't get better.

Sorry to bang the same subject drum but just wanted your opinion and thoughts please?

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{Ed001's Note - each bad result is cranking up the pressure, but nothing is about to happen yet.}

21 Sep 2015 20:33:32
Ok mate thanks for reply. I want us to win or take points from every game but i know that will probably mean him keeping his job.

Would you be guessing if i asked you if you think our owners might do something if for example we are 9th or 10th at christmas?

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{Ed001's Note - I would expect a change if that was the case. It would be impossible to ignore by that point.}

21 Sep 2015 20:36:35
If he gets the whole season don't be surprised if Liverpool are in the Championship next season.

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21 Sep 2015 22:07:30
He will get the full season and we will finish top 7 . mark my words. (me hoping I am wrong)

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21 Sep 2015 22:54:46
Macca has said that LFC are assessing their option on the manager situation ATM.

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21 Sep 2015 22:24:15
Essexred, that`s just silly talk mate, your not being sincere and appear to be reveling in our teams struggles,for your own amusement.

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21 Sep 2015 23:15:03
Am I? Our form is relegation form dude

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21 Sep 2015 19:38:35
I have gone past angry too being slightly bored by it all. If Rodgers goes and Klop and Ancelloti don't want it who is in the frame?

I have no confidence in FSG getting it right next time either.

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21 Sep 2015 22:08:39
I think they still have Kenny's mobile number

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21 Sep 2015 21:35:39
Bob Bradley possibly ed? He still in the frame?

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21 Sep 2015 16:59:19
Our problem is when Coutinho doesn't play or plays poorly,,, we don't win.

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21 Sep 2015 17:22:02
Well surely the bigger problem is why are we relying on one player to turn a match for us?

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21 Sep 2015 17:51:45
cmac, completely agree. When we've only relied on one player, and its usually been Gerrard, we've struggled. In seasons where we've had 2-4 great players to rely on, we've done much better. 2013-14 - Gerrard, Suarez and Sturridge, with an emerging Sterling for example. In the past, Gerrard, Alonso and Torres, with Carra and Masch too.

Right now, we only have Couts operating at that level, and even then sporadically. Our new signings, especially the attacking ones, need to be played and given the time (again!). Must admit, I really liked the look of Ings at the weekend, and hope he gets more chances.

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21 Sep 2015 18:55:16
There are lots of little problems that add up to underperformance. It can't be pinned down to one thing.
What we need to see is some kind of system to address the problems. The formation to me suited us better, but Clyne (who is excellent IMO) needs to push on and give the team an option wide right. There could not be more contrast between the fullbacks yesterday.
Migs needs to work on his distribution. He always kicks to the touch lines where we have no players and barely makes the half way line. Kick it straight down the middle where ALL our players are and where Benteke can compete for it.
Corners! Not rocket science defending or attacking yet we have seen no improvement since Hyypia and Gary Mac left.
Early ball into the box when the opposition is stretched- never happens.
Either the manager/coaches can't see it or they can't communicate it, or the players don't listen or they're not good enough to enforce it.

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21 Sep 2015 19:44:01
That's my point mate. We are average. I go watch as many games I can probably around 25 a season and I can promise you now, this is the worst team we've had in years.
For the first time since I can remember, Liverpool Football Club doesn't have ONE world class player.

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21 Sep 2015 20:40:52
I disagree dbol. I think we have a very good squad,maybe no stand out world class player but its more than capable of getting top 4. The problem is in the management, if we had a clear system where everyone knew their role and what is expected of them that played to individuals strengths we would be seeing much more from these players. There seems to be a complete lack of confidence throughout the squad,the players need clear instruction not what we have right now. The closest we got to success under rodgers was when we played the diamond and closed down,everyone knew what their role was and we saw the confidence of that team skyrocket.
Its very difficult to assess any new signing coming into a team that has no identity and the exsisting players don't know how we are set up to play. I certainly think a new manager could come in and be very successful with this squad,the talent is there the confidence and cohesion is lacking.

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21 Sep 2015 20:44:04
We got into good positions yesterday, what was missing is somebody coming up with a little bit of quality to either assist or score the goal.

I agree with dbol, but regardless of how good/bad the players are as individuals Rodgers is still making us worse than we should be.

We are miles off top 4 as player quality goes.

Say what you like about lvg but he gets results doesn't he!

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21 Sep 2015 21:29:54
The bashing ll continue until a new man comes. He would come up with his own shopping list of players. More debt would be incurred to meet his demands.
If he fails we ll bash him. the bashing continues.

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21 Sep 2015 21:48:41
I agree with DBol too. not one world class player. the money spent we should be full of them. worst manager in my history of supporting the reds (late 70s) even hodgson had a plan! he's not getting the sack anytime soon I just can't stand the bare faced cheek of the man to sit there and try and tell ME about football! is he having a laugh? he spent a year or so with Jose I've spent a mine under the influence of Shanks ,Paisley KK, the boot room, Moran, Fagan, Evans.He trying to justify to me and pull the wool over my eyes! Brendan your useless. I'm no American I'm Scouse and experienced and I know Sh*te when I see it!

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21 Sep 2015 22:44:22
Rogers isn't lots of little things. hmm or perhaps he is

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21 Sep 2015 23:00:54
I live in America EG and trust me, you can't BS the BSer. if BR was a coach here, he would have been sacked last season no question asked. Why? because he never takes responsibility and the media and fans hate that type of attitude.

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22 Sep 2015 02:14:23
Agree with you CMAC, perhaps no truly world class players, but certainly a talented squad worthy of top 4 with a good coach.

Benteke, Sturridge, Hendo, Firmino, Milner, Clyne, Sakho, Llalana are all class, and Ings, Moreno, Can, Ibe plenty of talent to develop but it take a good setup and a cohesive playing style to allow players to flourish and have confidence in their role/their team mates and we're miles off that.

I do wish we'd bought a top class/experienced DM to dictate play and a goalie though.

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21 Sep 2015 14:43:35
When we were successful in the 70s and 80s we had something then that we don't have now and that was players scoring who played in different positions , our midfield always used to score a lot of goals and our defenders were not that bad at scoring , since we lost that we have been no where near winning anything , even when we won the champs league we had alonso and gerrard and smicer scoring , at chelsea their midfielders score goals , even when man utd were winning the prem for all those years they had goal scoring midfielders , like giggs and even paul scholes , cantona , then you look at arsenal they had the same , so the commen thread is having goals scoring midfielders , besides gerrard and alonso , we really have not had many scoring mids ,

if we get a new manager let's hope he gets a few scoring mids and then we will be back up there

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21 Sep 2015 16:15:53
Alonso didn't score many goals

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21 Sep 2015 17:48:32
gmil, you're right, but Gerrard did.

As did McManaman (8-12 per season in all comps), Redknapp (4-6 per season).

More recently, Maxi Rodriguez wieghed in with 1 in 4, Sterling scored 10+ in the last 2 seasons with us, Kuyt scored 1 in 4 from the wing, Benayoun was 1 in 4, Babel was 1 in 5 and so on.

Most successful teams thrive on goalscoring midfielders, look at Lampard, Giggs and Hazard to name but a few.

What point are you trying to make?

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21 Sep 2015 18:28:51
If any of the ED'S are around what do you make of RAPHAEL HONIGSTEIN'S quotes over the weekend about LFC to have talks with KLOPP in Novembe,to be fair to him he said there's been no concrete evidence just conversations he's had with specific people in Germany. .anything to add ED'S. .

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{Ed001's Note - pure supposition.}

21 Sep 2015 20:41:34
{Ed001's Note - pure supposition.} and hope!

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21 Sep 2015 23:02:39
This has been debunked already. Although, there's no smoke without fire. Watch this space!

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21 Sep 2015 14:25:19
Anyone know why Ilori is not making the squad at Villa? Is it injury or don't they rate him?
Could be a waste of a loan

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21 Sep 2015 14:36:45
Lack of match fitness, last I heard!

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21 Sep 2015 14:41:45
I think Sherwood said he's not playing due to lack of fitness. YNWA

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21 Sep 2015 14:44:26
He`s behind in his fitness, someone said on here.

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21 Sep 2015 14:49:00
i was wondering the same thing , then i thought is there something we don't know or isn't he as good as we think he is , i think /thought he was a good defender but he does not get the games he should be getting by what i have seen , or maybe its just down to injuries , or is he one of them players who is not that good in training but when he plays in a game he shows how good he really is ,

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21 Sep 2015 10:37:09
Hi guys,

I have just checked the fixtures and noticed that the home game v WBA which follows a Thursday night Europa league game hasn't been moved to the Sunday as of yet. Is this just an error on the LFC site or have I missed something as to why it is still on the Saturday. I only ask as I am coming up from Plymouth for this match and want to make plans for the trip in the near future. If anyone could advise as to when the game will actually be played that would be great. I am 99.999% sure it will be the Sunday but wanted to make double sure.

Thanks

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{Ed002's Note - The games will be rescheduled when they are divided up for television. As you say it will be on the Sunday.}

21 Sep 2015 09:13:27
I saw some good things yesterday from the anfield rd end.

Sakho - excellent
Moreno - excellent
Lucas - excellent

Benteke scares defenders and I hope he returns soon.

Unfortunately all this was against a newly promoted side with a total squad value of 50-60million. We probably lost that much on the Mario deal.

What makes this upsetting is that we should have won this game and yet 20 minutes into it you just knew at best it was a draw.

I heard it said once that investment and league position are relative. This I have to say is not the case in our situation.

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21 Sep 2015 11:08:07
two up top was definitely much better, but personally i felt there was no reason to go 3 at the back, Emre wouldev been much more effective in midfield.

much better to see that whenever our forwards got the ball, there were bodies around him. Sturridge and Benteke wasnt really clicking yesterday, but it was much better to see than seeing Benteke isolated alone.

But at the end of the day results count, and we should have beaten them comfortably.

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21 Sep 2015 14:47:45
Spot on, Kaizer! We were unlucky because Benteke and Studge came off which hurt our momentum and the goal was unfortunate because Mingo did his best punching as far as he could with all the bodies around him. had there been someone on the post, the ball would have been clearded. Our finishing was poor and Couts could have gotten a hatrick on his own. Better perf but we need points right now.

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21 Sep 2015 16:35:16
Agree, far better for having 2 up top, but could have been 4 at the back at home against Norwich. That would have left 2 midfielders free to join the attack as opposed to just Milner, with Lucas to cover defence.

I think a midfield of Lucas/Milner/Coutinho with Firmino behind the strikers (or llalana as third midfielder with Coutinho CAM) would have created more and still been good value in defence, but at least we played better and it was partially rustiness in front of goal that cost us - at least we made a few chances.

If we stick with side we put out I won't be too unhappy as it has potential to win more than most, just still hope to see the diamond at some stage.

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21 Sep 2015 09:05:21
I think our main problem is our midfield. We do not have a top 4 midfield on the best of days. In terms of personel our defence cpuld be one of the best in the league with the right management. And offensively we are a strong unit. The backbone is missing and that is a organised midfield with players that do different jobs, and do them well. Lucas plays the defensive role, hasn't been that great so far but that is a specific role, I do not know what emre can and Milner do, other than try to keep the ball and feed in to our outlets like coutinho. They have no specific roles. That is where the game is won and lost and at the moment we are very disorganised in this position. We had the same problem for most of last season, so nothing has improved. I think I'm the short term future that obviously Rogers will still be here and it will be patches of good results patches of deep inconsistencies but nothing to put us completely out of the race for top 4, but clearly a obvious indication of a mid table finish. I don't blame Rogers for the result yesterday per se, as the players didn't perform as a group, and only individual players played well. We should have won. However collectively, the disorganisation and the problem at the moment in terms of what is on the pitch is at the feet of Mr.Rogers. The sooner he goes the better for us.

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{Ed001's Note - you think our defence is one of the best in the league, seriously?}

21 Sep 2015 09:49:10
You cannot blame the players without Rodgers shouldering much of the same. He is the manager afterall, his team, formation,picks. He has a lot to answer for.

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21 Sep 2015 11:28:18
For me the defence includes the goalkeeper. Not absolving anyone of any responsibility, but we will never have a decent defence with Migs in goal. Nothing against him, he's just not good enough.

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21 Sep 2015 11:32:53
When you pick the best formation and the best players available for that formation and the players don't play particularly well. How can you blame the manager You can blame him for not picking the right set up or not picking the right players but there are some on here who blames him for everything and anything

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21 Sep 2015 13:18:33
I think this is the first time I have agreed with Ron!

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21 Sep 2015 14:55:11
So Mingo is the reason we don`t have a good defence? Nonsense! The reason we don`t have a good defence is because we don`t defend as a unit. Our defenders lack discipline and direction which is why they are all over the shop atimes. This has nothing to do with the GK alone. It is a team oriented problem and nothing more.

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{Ed001's Note - but he is right that we will never have a decent defence while Mignolet is there.}

21 Sep 2015 15:03:00
Seriously Red 64? First he doesn't get the personnel or formation right. 5 defenders picked against Norwich at home! Second, if it's just a matter of picking a team anyone could do it. Why is he paid millions per year? What does he do to prepare the team during training, how does he coach them? Because half the time they don't look like they have a clue how or what they're meant to be doing!

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21 Sep 2015 15:46:21
Migs is a decent shot stopper, but you need more as a keeper. His distribution has been utterly woeful from day 1 and always leads to the team being put back under pressure. He doesn't command his area and is shakey on crosses. Lastly a defence works well when the keeper is organising them. Migs is too quiet. We've changed formations, we've bought a million different defenders, but with Migs there nothing has changed.
Not scapegoating him, there are loads of problems with the team, but he's a constant weakness.

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21 Sep 2015 16:16:54
Ultimately the manager is always responsible.

We got unlucky? Get the team playing so well we don't have to rely on luck then.

The players have a lack of concentration or commitment? Well how has the manager managed to lose the whole respect of the dressing room? And if they're all bad eggs, then why is he playing them/buying them?

The players didn't play well enough and areng good enough? Again he bought them! And he doesn't have to play them!

Theres literally no excuses, he is accountable for everything.

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21 Sep 2015 16:49:31
Disagree with the OP, a midfield of Lucas, Milner, Hendo, Coutinho and Llalana is class enough to beat most sides. I do have questions over Can and Allen though. The trick is in the team setup, balance and strategy around them.

Defence on the other hand is a mess apart from Clyne.

Ron agree completely with you, I think migs won't win us many games, and can certainly do a decent job, but he's capable of losing us games from time to time and he doesn't inspire confidence.

Compare to De Gea, Lloris, Courtois and Cech and imagine one of them playing for Liverpool, would be a significant boost IMO. They're all a capable of organising a defence and making their sides seem impenetrable with good decision making and leadership from the back (as well as some outrageous saves).

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21 Sep 2015 19:42:44
I did clearly say, in terms of personel we could have one of the best denfenses in the league, only bettered by Chelsea and City. As I said, the defensive management is not there. We have not been good at defending ever since Rogers has taken over. Doesn't matter who has been there even carra looked bad at times in our set up. If you are blaming the people in defence for that I don't rate your 'opinion' at all. Read things better, then you might come to a better response.

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{Ed001's Note - which personnel is that? Skrtel? Because he is nowhere near a top defender, unless he is marking one at a corner. Moreno has potential, but he is not a good defender yet. Sakho doesn't get to play often enough. Lovren is a disaster for us. Clyne is ok, but has struggled when put under pressure.}

21 Sep 2015 20:24:49
Southamton really took us to the cleaners with lovren the bloke has never settled in. Put you a weeks wages he'll go an be a world better at another club.

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21 Sep 2015 21:37:11
We have good defenders at the club, but we have a poor defence. So what does that point at. Rodgers.

Inability to mould a defensive unit.
Mignolet is terrible and will never be good enough, on a level with let sat westerweld.
Lovren has been terrible, but his confidence is blown to ship. He is continually played along side skyrtyl, who has always been a mistake waiting to happen with mugs behind him.
Different manager, who buys a decent keeper, and plays sahko next to him, then let judge.
Guys we have good players but a coach who can't coach them or even play them in position that fits them.

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21 Sep 2015 23:08:12
The buck stops with the manager especially one who's in charge of transfers, end of.

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21 Sep 2015 08:13:44
Clearly we can't go after every player, and you have to identify your targets and go for them, which we did much better this summer, but I wondered, whilst we were working on deals totalling almost £70m for Benteke, Firmino and Ings, was Martial ever on our radar? I have to admit I'd never heard of him but he seems to have made a pretty impressive start.

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{Ed002's Note - No he wasn't.}

21 Sep 2015 09:02:13
He was very expensive for his age and for what he did so far. I heard interviews with French football journos and they were really shocked of ho much united paid for him, said he could be a decent player one day but no one in France thought currently he is anything like a starter in the PL let alone a top 4 team. It seems he was quite under the radar there as well. Fair play to United's scouts + LVG. They got a lot of stick for this buy. We would never have paid this amount of money for a young unproven player. Not the current LFC anyway.

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{Ed002's Note - Martial was far from "under the radar".}

21 Sep 2015 11:04:26
Macheda and Januzaj were also sensational in their first couple of games - probably best to judge a player's ability on half a season at least

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21 Sep 2015 11:29:51
They paid £39 million for him?
We paid £35 million for Andy Carroll. Not much difference in terms of price.

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21 Sep 2015 11:56:03
Stop reminding us, Ron :(

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21 Sep 2015 14:56:40
Chelsea were in for Martial but not at the price he got sold for, per Ed02 so he was defo not under the radar.

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21 Sep 2015 08:13:34
Morning Reds,

Weekend loan update.

Ojo played for 70 minutes as Wolves drew 0-0 with league leaders Brighton.

Lloyd Jones played the full 90 as Blackpool drew 1-1 with Barnsley. Blackpool remain bottom but are closing the gap.

Vigouroux and Williams played the full 90 as Swindon lost 1-0 to Burton.

Wisdom was not eligible to play against his parent club as Norwich drew with relegation form Liverpool!!

Danny Ward and Aberdeen continued their good form winning 3-1 away at Hearts. This was their 8th straight victory.

Deportivo lost 3-2 to sporting as Luis Alberto got one goal and one assist.

Ballotelli came on as a 70th minute sub as AC won 3-2 against Palermo

Markovic played for 75 minutes (in attack surprisingly) as Fenerbache beat Bursapor 2-1

Maguire again was an unused sub as Leyton orient drew 1-1 with Wycombe

Harry Wilson was an unused sub as Crewe beat Shrewsbury 1-0

Awoniyi was not in the squad for the second time (possibly injured) as fsv Frankfurt beat duisburg 1-0.

Yesil was an unused sub as Luzern won 4-2 against Xamax

Canos came on as a 60th minute sub and provided the assist as to the winning goal as Brentford beat Preston 2-1.

Illori was not in the squad as villa lost 1-0 to west brom.

Allan played the full 90 as Senajoen beat KTP 3-1.

Ryan Kent played the full 90 as Coventry beat Chesterfield 1-0

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21 Sep 2015 10:27:33
Fantastic work Carra, well done !

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21 Sep 2015 12:23:14
Thanks Carra great work. well done luis alberto

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21 Sep 2015 19:27:00
"Relagation form Liverpool", brilliant, well said. Haha

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21 Sep 2015 19:39:49
Thanks carra

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21 Sep 2015 07:22:22
Its just come to me who Rodgers reminds me of!
That coach in the film the Waterboy whose lost his book and dosnt know what to do anymore, the guy that used to be Fonzie haha, ah well he clearly thinks he is Fonzie now so he's on the right tracks,
I wonder who that makes the Waterboy? i'm going for Mignolet!

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21 Sep 2015 08:32:31
The waterboy was competent meow.

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21 Sep 2015 11:51:10
Cue Colin Pascoe getting the job at United.

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21 Sep 2015 05:48:57
A couple of things I have to get off my chest.
1. Danny ings is the type of player we have been missing. Great movement , hunger and work rate.
2. I'v kept quiet about Milner so far but i'm struggeling to see what he brings apart from running around.
3. Firmino. I'v been waiting for Firmino to get going. today was his best cameo yet. But I fear he is less of a winger than Lalana and will struggle to reach his best stuck out wide where it looks like his runs into the box are ignored.
4. Did everyone hear the booing at the final whistle? With a bit of luck it won't be too long before all our dreams come true. Apart from you Ron.

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21 Sep 2015 10:17:07
For me Firmino's best position is a secondary striker. I think he's better in this position than AM.

Firmino and Sturridge up top for me in a diamond with Coutinho in behind.

Benteke I feel harsh critising as he has played his game really well with no support but we will never play that free flowing football with Benteke. He is trying but he just doesn't have that crazy energy for it and unfortunatley I think he does stiffle Coutinho and co. Again I don't want to say too much against him. He is giving his all and playing well. It just comes down to style and perhaps my preferences in how I'd like to see us playing.

With Firmino and Coutinho high up the field I think we might finally se a high press be introduced again.

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21 Sep 2015 11:33:51
Mate, my dreams do not extend to football managers but if you're talking football wish lists all I want is for LFC to be successful and I don't care who the manager is; what formation they play; who the players are; whether anyone sees a dentist or has a tan like David Dickinson.

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21 Sep 2015 13:23:27
One you loose the fans, its only a matter time before you are sacked. Rodgers will be sacked soon enough.

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21 Sep 2015 14:58:35
For once, I agree with Ron BUT his beliefs and what he says about the manager are two severely different things

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21 Sep 2015 16:53:54
I agree with you davey, I really like Benteke but I think Sturridge/Firmino or Sturridge/Ings suits the side (particularly Coutinho/Hendo) far better with their movement and pace. Benteke is a great option to have for certain games though.

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21 Sep 2015 02:23:39
Just watched the match and have to say I thought we were unlucky not to win that one.from what I've seen of Milner I think he needs to do a lot more than what he does for me.he gives the ball away far to much for an experienced player with a team which is full of young players.on a plus studge will be back to his old self verry soon I believe.Thanks for the hard work edds

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21 Sep 2015 08:25:45
I agree but when you lose so many points when you don't deserve to win, you cannot afford losing points due to bad luck. That is the difference between us and city's loss over the weekend.

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21 Sep 2015 15:00:53
Spot on, guys! As for Milner, he looked so off the pace that I was wondering if he was older than he actually was. he just seemed to not be able to keep up with the energy of the rest of the team. By far his poorest display so far. Must do better.

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21 Sep 2015 02:01:35
I must say, milner looks far from a starting player. Week in week out he looks off the pace and misplaces more balls than he completes. Not to mention his tackling is always off. would much rather see Can or our youth

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21 Sep 2015 06:06:30
Rossitter to start alongside Lucas.

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21 Sep 2015 09:08:08
I never understood the hype around signing him in the summer. He was never a starter in City and when he came from the bench for them I don't remember me ever thinking how come he doesn't start for them. He is a hard working guy and full of energy who is never shy from getting the ball and can be a good substitute, but probably not a starter for us either as he produces very little.

Now the problem BR faces is that the only reason he came to us is because he assumed he would be a regular starter. Coming from the bench he could do in City and also taking some trophies on the way. So he will not be a happy bunny if dropped to the benach. Not that BR has to take this into consideration especially when Henderson is back.

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21 Sep 2015 09:08:21
Texiera is a good candidate.

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21 Sep 2015 13:25:13
Put Milner as the right midfielder and we will get a good shift out of him, and maybe a few assist. In the middle, he has been average and I was very surprised how tactically naive he looked.

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21 Sep 2015 15:08:25
He was never needed!

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20 Sep 2015 22:29:09
Continuo is very a good footballer but a terrible finisher. this coupled with his reluctance to pass the ball to players in a better position really frustrates me.
I know he has scored some spectacular goals but these represent only a small number of the shots he has.

Believable14 Unbelievable5

21 Sep 2015 03:32:04
Terrible is not the right word. Perhaps inconsistent.

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21 Sep 2015 03:43:26
he's finishing has massively improved, yesterday was a bad day at the office for him. same with his passing - normally he would pick people out but he was trying to make up for his miss and shooting from anywhere. ( a bit like when gerrard slipped against Chelsea and had about 20 shots thereafter)

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21 Sep 2015 10:48:20
coutinho needs to go back to his impressive passing skills and not shoot as much personally. he should if rodgers is not a muppet and play one up top have two strikers to aim for. Firmino for me has been mistreated so far and is not a winger and should be either played as a second striker or a number 10

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21 Sep 2015 13:28:53
He is a good dribbler, has excellent vision and the ability to pass, but finishing is definitely not one of his strengths. he has been trying to get better with his finishing by shooting more often over the last season and this season, which I think is the right thing to do, and his goal at Stoke this season, Southampton, QPR, Man City last season are couple of examples of this. He missed the best chance of the game though unfortunately.

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