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21 May 2014 23:04:39
Told you all about Johnson moons ago.
He won't take a pay drop and he's had a little beef.
Trust me.
What's his beef DB? And they say men don't gossip haha
Was it rump or ribeye davey?
His "beef" would be dark I would think.
21 May 2014 22:09:27
i am from Liverpool and today was a first traing of our national team. there is a footage where robert kovac, team coach throws a ball to lovren and shouts"if you want to play for Liverpool jump higher". doesn't mean anything but here everyone is pretty much sure we are after him but also say we offended saint with low offer.
22 May 2014 06:44:31
do you mean you're from Croatia?
And is it where he tells him if he wants to play for Liverpool he has to jump as high as Lebron James? ;)
21 May 2014 21:08:01
Some of you may find the following link a little distressing.
http://www.Liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/Liverpool-news/watch-hillsborough-inquests-shown-video-7153670
Please circulate far and wide.
I don't beat the drum about this disaster, as many of my friends and family are actively involved, and I wasn't there on that day, but half an hour of footage of this nature really hits home and makes my realise a number of things.
I love my club.
I love my fellow supporters.
I despise the wind-up merchants and juvenile remarks.
Finally.
I want JUSTICE for all the victims, families and supporters involved on that fateful day.
Shocking.
Here Here.
21 May 2014 20:57:38
Guys and girls, what's your favourite LFC ( besides YNWA )
I love singin along at the match or in the pub and very rarely hear a complete version of ' a liverbird upon my chest '
Gotta be one of my favourites
ARROW
Kompany at CB
Poor scouser Tommy & Fields of anfield road. The only songs sung with a similar level of emotion as YNWA. The atmosphere is palpable when these songs are sung. Captured everything I love about the club and I'll never forget my first game singing about that Poor Scouser tommy when I was 11.
Fields of anfield road. Wireless speaker. After a sweet sherry or two.
Or the Melbourne rendition of you'll never walk alone on you tube.
Mrs aaiiii loves that sshhhhiiiddd
Id say Shanklys song, at the time it was way more emotional than YNWA
21 May 2014 20:13:38
Let's say every team can only make ONE transfer. which position do you guys think needs to be strengthened and with who? eds, feel free to join as well. let's banter a bit
Liverpool with Messi.
Everton with Titus Bramble.
United with the bubonic plague. In fact, if Van Gaal signed the plague on a 4 year deal, that would be fantastic.
Leighton Baines for me.
Kompany, Silva, Dante, Ramos or Pique.
Any of the above. All leaders, all solid right sided centre backs.
I know you said 1. However my next player would be from:
Clichy, Marcelo, Alba, Lahm or Alaba.
Pipe dreams!
If Enrique is fit I wouldn't care for a replacement as much as I would another CM. we've become so reliant on henderson it's forced BR to play Lucas and Coutinho out of position (although its worked with Coutinho). so i'd say the player that would complete us the most in my opinion would be Arturo Vidal.
Sturridge, Suarez
Coutinho (Sterling)
Vidal, Henderson
Gerrard
Enrique, Sakho, Skrtel, Flanagan
Mignolet
Jamie Carragher, 2004 version.
21 May 2014 19:02:07
Hi eds and reds
Do you think Liverpool will score more or less goals next season compared to last season?
Will it be a whole lot less, the same or slightly more?
Thanks
YNWA-SA
167 goals, 67 conceded, sounds about right
The Ed's are good. in fact very good!. but do you seriously believe they can answer this question?
Personally I think they will score half a goal less!
And has anyone got this weeks a Euromillions numbers?
I imagine the ED's will be able to tell you this by February 30th next year.
I'm hoping to score tonight with Mrs aaiiii, need to work on my neuro linguistic programming.
*grabs remote* "what do you want to watch Mr aaiiii?"
"go down Mrs aaiiii until something pops up"
The Ed's are all seeing all knowing. They are not from this Earth, they are from another planet somewhere far far away.
Perhaps a more relevant question to stimulate debate would be: if LFC were offered an 84 point finish for next season should they take it?
22 May 2014 06:49:36
You know BR always talks about development and improvement of the group! So he will target something like 90 points ;)
It will be fantastic if we can equal or better 84 points next season.
21 May 2014 18:33:46
Hi ed hope your well. do you see Liverpool making a big money signing or marquee as some people would say or 4 or 5 similar fee signings . Really hope we sign at least 1 really exceptional player
thankyou
{Ed002's Note - You'll be happy as long as Liverpool spend a lot of money I guess.}
No ed i'd like them to spend as less as poss . just asking a question
21 May 2014 18:19:04
I would honestly be happy with just lallana and lovren as our two signings as I think changing the squad too much would ruin the team although maybe there is need for squad depth but with the academy we own have enough to compete even in the champions league and I think enrique when fit does the job for LB and can do so until brad smith is promoted. Opinions?
In a word, no. Enrique is as infantile with his decisions as Skrtel. He is also too injury prone and with at least 6 more games next year he'll not do. We need a top class LB (Moreno), CB (Lovren fits the bill), DM (when Lucas leaves; Emre Can is of interest), CM (Parejo is of interest), WF (Sanchez would be amazing, but no interest so far) & ST (Someone to complement our current options, I'd say Bony would be good, but no interest). That's the 6 Rodgers has mentioned (although he said he'd be happy with 2).
To leave: Agger; Skrtel; Enrique; Lucas(club are actively touting his availability); Aspas (maybe); Moses; Cissokho.
Return from Loan: Ibe (likely to be sent out again); Robinson (to be sold); Wisdom (possible loan candidate); Ilori (if Agger leaves he will be brought into the squad, else another loan); Suso (will get a chance, however there is interest from Spain); Borini (see Suso, Sunderland would like to do a deal); Assaidi (will move to Stoke).
I expect far more activity than that but only because that is normal for summer.
The financial model the club is developing is working which is why I expect some of the players Rodgers inherited to leave as he gets closer to "his" squad. Big earners who aren't first team regulars who have value now but maybe not next year are where i'd start.
Any or all of Agger, Skrtel, Lucas, Enrique & Reina could leave with replacements coming in for similar fees but younger, (hopefully) better suited to the system and on less wages. Of the above only Skrtel was a regular starter.
Those who haven't cut it or where we are well covered include Aspas, Assaidi, Coates, Suso & Alberto. Again I'd imagine all of them could be sold if the right bid comes in.
Of course we have to have buyers but i'd expect at least seven to leave and so six or seven signings isn't far-fetched. One or two might be prospects but five will need to be ready for the match day 18. We basically relied on 13 or 14 players for the second half of the season. That can't happen next season.
Them and a left-back, on Enrique El Pistolero hit the nail on the head, and perhaps another winger, again Sanchez would be incredible if it were to materialise.
That said I don't think we need another striker unless we flog Borini which would be ridiculous.
Then, I'd say, unless we were to unexpectedly let anyone go, I'd argue we're sorted.
21 May 2014 17:42:06
Lovren is a top target.
We had a informal offer rejected earlier this week.
We will be making another one shortly.
It is not dependent on any deal with Lallana.
I think he is a really good player.
What are peoples thoughts?
He's OK. No world beater.
I wanted us to buy him 2 years ago very good player
Right footer version of Agger with more pace.
Informal offer? And we'll be making another one of those? As long as it's just informal why don't we try one for Ronaldo or Messi?
21 May 2014 17:27:41
Hi eds, is there a good website where I can look up players who are at the end of there contracts and available on a free and do managers have a database of all players that are for sale by their clubs or do they just phone about interested players, just interested how it works :)
{Ed002's Note - UEFA maintain a list of contract dates and that is provided to a organisation that builds it in to a database of other player information that is sold to newspapers, television stations, some clubs etc. A subset is used by Transfermarkt but they do not get the updates during the year so you are reliant on them to keep the data fresh - which they don't do. However, they are probably still a decent source for such information but there will be some errors.}
22 May 2014 02:00:01
Thanks ed
21 May 2014 17:27:29
Have we bid for lovren or parejo yet? And how close is an agreement with southampton over lallana? Also do we have interest in Lascelles from forest a great centre back at a young age for forest played well for them this season? Cheers eds
ShaneC95
{Ed002's Note - The search function will reveal all.}
21 May 2014 17:38:05
Having a right good chuckle reading some of the posts, any one reading these would think we had an awful season and had to fight to stay up let alone finish second to one of the tightest title races in ages.
For every one who puts any interest in .
Read the posts first, if you ask about every player we have been linked with or liked on fifa I think the eds will abandon us soon, as far as money goes why try and guess an amount we have no real idea about the actual figures offered and the eds don't like discussing finances so just be happy that we are looking at improving our already exciting squad and wait to enjoy watching half the England squad being from LFC.
Lifelongred
Happens every window no matter that season we've had, let's get rid of everyone and sign 11 new players and make up figures out of thin air and then we will have a good window.
I would expect 3-4 players in depending on who goes out none of them for exorbitant fees. Maybe a few more younger signings that aren't yet first team material.
21 May 2014 22:06:39
I thought we got relegated with some of the chatter on here?
I would be more than happy with a LB and CB (depending what happens with dagger and skrtel. Midfield could do with an extra man if funds allow, but we do have suso coming back, and some good youth coming through. I think we have enough up top with Borini returning, and I would like to see Aspas given another season, if he is willing, as I think he's a good striker, just completely out of his depth physically last season, which is understandable coming from Spain.
But bringing in wholesale changes like some fans seem to want will just upset the team, and we all know what happened to Tottenham, decent players, no chemistry.
21 May 2014 17:15:29
As much as I love the club & the sport it is seriously frustrating to see some fans already slagging the owners and the clubs hierarchy for how they're trying to do deals currently. There are a few things that you should bare in mind when you're preaching this tripe:
1) The transfer window isn't even open yet. So no players can be officially signed. Yes deals can be agreed in principle, but no one can officially move.
2) we're approaching the world cup so a lot of players are cramming in a quick holiday or preparing with their national teams. Thus they cannot apply pressure on the selling club to sell nor do the majority want to give any indication of whether or not they want to move.
3) Transfer deals are not nearly as simple as they appear, this isn't football manager or fifa 14. There are a lot of moving pieces and unless you have the financial power of City, RM or PSG you have a lot of financial obsticals to surmount.
If by Mid-august we haven't signed anyone then please feel free to start to ask questions, but until then please stop with this utter drivel about incompetence. Would you rather we'd have spent that extra money on Mkhitaryan? He's looked OK, but nothing more. Same with Willian. The club have a valuation and admirably will not pay over the odds for flavour of the months. Would you rather we fail FFP and are stopped from entering Europe? Or have limits and huge fines sanctioned? Please, give the club time before you judge.
{Ed007's Note - I hope this sense of perspective isn't contagious!}
Spot on. It's enough to make you give the site a miss for a week or so. People who can't negotiate a busy road thinking they're the Wolf of Wall Street.
Ed007 it's funny when maybe one or two people set up their hate campaigns against the guys in charge because nothing has happened in the 9 days since the season has ended. But when every other post is slagging off the owners or IA, it just gets boring and puts me off interacting with people on this site because you simply cannot reason with people if they have an IQ below room temperature. I'm all for freedom of speech and expression but please at least has some basis in what you're saying.
{Ed007's Note - And if 4/5 new signings were announced tomorrow (to go through on July 1st) they would just moan for the rest of the window about why the club weren't still buying players. Every supporter wants to see new signings but everyone should know by now they don't happen overnight.}
21 May 2014 19:51:41
BTW, the Movie was awesome.
El Pistolero what are you talking about? Everyone knows its just like football manager!
You make a small upfront cash bid click pay 100+ million over a 48 month period and wait for it to be accepted. Sorted.
21 May 2014 21:07:23
It's just totally crazy.
I think the premier league is a side-show now. The real battle is who ca spend the most money in the transfer market. No-one cares about the actual football, it's just one huge micturating contest to spend money.
Everyone get a bloody grip of yourselves.
Precisely agent 007. It's like people just want to see money blown and that's it. Funny to see how little some lines have evolved since emerging on the African Savannah.
21 May 2014 16:44:48
Back in January I stated we were after pastore, we tried to loan him in Han with view of perm and we'll looks like we are after him again. He is unhappy at his game time in Paris and feels that because of this he's lost his World Cup place, he is aware of sustained interest from us and another epl side, but would like to come to Liverpool. If we can meet his wages then PSG are willing to let him go. Due to him not being at WC this makes things easier to sort out and get him settled. I think could be a shrewd piece of business due to BRs man management skills don't be surprised if it's only a fraction on the 37€ PSG paid for him
21 May 2014 17:02:03
Is there anything in this eds?
I just hope we don't offer a pack of gum and a signed Sebastian Coates Shirt ;)
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool won't be offering anything.}
21 May 2014 16:28:09
For me signings I would like us to get.
A. Sanchez. Barca. 18 million or Agger and 6-8 million.
A. Moreno. Sevilla. 20 million or maybe one of Reina, Assiaidi, Borini, Enrique, Aspas or Coates with a cash sum.
S. De Vrij. Feyenoord. 8-12 million or one of Assiadi, Skrtle or Coates and cash sum.
X. Shaqiri. Bayern. 12-16 million.
Deals with players involved would still free funds for an additional player or two. Possibles Llalana, Konoplyanka or Iturbe.
Possible loans to involve in deals could be Alberto, Teixera, Ilori or Ibe.
Munian, Niguez and Susaeta would also be good options
Lallana and loveran(spelling) I would like to see young player like suso and ibe more in next season and keep flannagan as left back he is good
Still no players with PL experience good enough Jonesred?!
Tell me what good did buying players with PL experience did for Kenny's job?
Haych. I'm not saying NO imports. But it would be nice if at least half knew the league so we don't wait a season for 7 strangers to find their feet (Spurs?)
Our biggest misses in the market under Rodgers so far are Assaidi, Aspas, Alberto & Ilori. They all have something in common.
21 May 2014 16:24:38
Seeing all these fans criticizing the owners and ayre
cut the guys some slack
eg suppose something is available for 20 £ but you only have 15£
if you go and directly offer 15 £ the owner will obviously want more but if you start with 10£ you have a chance of getting the item for 15
And guys it is just the start of the Window not its end we are not in a position to directly offer what the selling club wants we tried that with downing and Carroll look how that turned out
the owners have shown that when required highly they can spend ala sakho so at least wait for some weeks
people say x players did not sign
apart from salah everything else did not happen due to lack of funds or mad owners
we missed out on willian mkhitaryan costa because at that time we were expecting suarez to leave and these players were replacements
would everyone have been happy if we had sold suarez and signed these players instead
so everyone please stop whining, linking us with every available player and trust in br and the owners
And what is up with these wishlists at least try to make them minutely realistic bolasie?fabregas?vidal?
I understand what you're saying what I don't understand is how all our business seemingly is done in public? I mean the papers had us bidding for lallana before we actually bid! This is where I'm a bit amazed. I think our dealings should be kept more private especially when it gets down to the stage of entering into negotiations with a club .
What a daft comment.
Surely Lallana's agent is the one spreading the news to the media?
You can only criticise the club for doing their business in public if someone from Liverpool actually says something. If the papers make it up it's not Liverpool's fault. The club sells papers and the fans are the most hungry for news in an online setting. That's why stuff is made up every day. Football Direct News are my favourites (irony) as they have "sources" at Anfield that reveal moves for upto 3 new players every day. And Jamie K from finds multiple reasons to knock down every potential signing. I swear he'd find a statistical reason to steer clear of Messi.
No but for the last good few transfer windows all are deals have basically been public knowledge bar assaidi. at some point it can't all just be other agents and teams.
21 May 2014 16:01:54
What do everyone do? I mean, are you a student, a banker, a car salesman, working at Hooters, you know.
A tenth grade student
Taxi driver in dublin
An unemployed Engineer.
21 May 2014 16:24:30
I don't blame the Owners
How did my long post ended up as a reply to ag's question?eds could you take off my long post I will send it again
{Ed002's Note - Because that is where you put it.}
Feed baby penguins at howletts
About to finish my degree!
Accountant, so I do chuckle when the EDs pull their hair out over money.
Studying econometrics in Holland in a couple months! Atm working in the blue light (a pub) to finance myself
I own a mobile phone company in Croydon.
21 May 2014 16:58:22
geo physics & petroleum's engineer ( don't really know what it's called in English)
Buss driver in Toronto, semi pro football player for the Ottawa Fury.
I'm Batman
Professional quiditch player.
Gas engineer
I used to work in a salad. now I'm I writer, writing comedies and working on a horror project.
Postie.
ps. Harry's reply is funny.
English-Spanish translator for south coast based Premier League managers
Sports psychologist and former free lance fashion consultant
Nevada
Haha, Harry we know you don't mate, but that's not what was asked.
Technician for heineken
21 May 2014 18:27:26
Bricklayer + I sell hubcaps
Square Tomato - you written anything I would know?
I'm about to finish an MA in Scriptwriting / hoping (fingers crossed) to start a job as a copywriter soon.
Just graduated. MSc in Finance.
Salvation Army in Calgary AB making agency referrals and what not for housing, employment, education, etc., etc.
I'm also completely rubbish at football.
Just thought I'd throw that in there.
Astonishingly rubbish.
Picked a good team to support though!
Data storage engineer. Just as boring as it sounds.
Cabin crew.
Jardinière (and obviously martial arts expert)
I'm Spartacus
21 May 2014 19:49:33
Camera man on studio 66.
Fortunately work in mental health, research and buddhist psychology
Stone and Tiling contractor in London.
We did the Savoy Hotel a few years ago.
@molby nothing's in production(not been doing it properly for long) yet so you wouldn't have but currently writing a comedy about Nigel winterburn, good luck with everything!
Légion étrangère, Legionnaire 1e Classe 2nd Foreign Parachute Regiment
I will be a data analyst from next Tuesday.
I manage Liverpool Fc in Fifa14.
Apprentice at Caterpillar and an U16's football coach.
A management consultant in India.
21 May 2014 22:15:49
Electrical engineer, though I like to dream I'm a rock star
Doing a BA in History and Sociology, part-time waiter and Red Cross volunteer.
Electrical & Instrument Engineer
22 May 2014 06:09:42
Professional footballer
Woah, lots of Engineers!
Ken, it is your brother who is the Professional.
22 May 2014 09:34:59
Ken Aguero
bang on.
21 May 2014 15:40:19
Not apologetic I mean people (predictive text is on a mad one)
21 May 2014 15:39:36
What we need are obvious for all to see but our owners still haven't approached a defensive coach. Mignolet needs competition, Johnson is a liability, Skrtel makes too many mistakes, Enrique is always injured, Coutinho is inconsistent and we have no goal threats on our bench.
Easy steps to resolve issues:
#01 Re-sign Steve Clarke to our coaching staff
#02 Sell Johnson and start Flanagan with Kelly/Wisdom cover
#03 Sell Skrtel and sign Steven Caulker
#04 Sell Enrique and sign Aaron Cresswell from Ipswich
#05 Suso is back from loan
#06 Fabio Borini is back from loan
Before apoplectic start moaning about the LB choice then they need to consider the fact that he is very consistent and has both good defensive and attacking qualities, with being unproven in the top flight could make him excel for us.
21 May 2014 16:10:31
And we runners up in the league for first time since 2009
Scouse
That's not a manifesto for the Liverpool fans to rally behind is it?
Thank goodness it wasn't a 10 point plan.
You want LFC to replace a CB that helped get his team finish 2nd, for a CB than helped his team finish last?
Our defence let more goals in than during any other Premier League season. Martin Skrtel scored 7 goals and that is all that most fans are seeing instead of the mistakes he made and the own goals that he scored. I like Skrtel but I feel to move forward we need to replace certain players to elevate ourselves to the next step. We conceded from set-pieces due to not having anybody commanding the box and from counter attacks as we never had a CB on the pitch that could cover and get goal side of the player in possession. Steven Caulker is by no means the finished article but I believe that he would thrive with us and improve his all round game and will surpass what Skrtel offers now (at his peak).
21 May 2014 15:29:45
Transfers in:
Michel Vorm:5m(GK)
Ashley Cole:Free(LB)
De Sciglio:12m(LB, RB)
Benatia:22m(CB)
Emre Can:10m(DM, CM, LB, RB)
Diame:3m(DM, CM)
Evgen Konoplyanka:15m(LW)
Alexandre Lacazette:12m(ST, RW)
=79m
Don't forget the additional 10 m that we will generate from players such as Sturridge, Sterling, Allen and Lucas who leave the club after they feel as if they are being pushed out the door :>
21 May 2014 16:25:36
Good to see someone, Knows the full nae of players.
Ashley cole free? So who going to pay the signing on fee and his enormous wages? Might be a free agent but not free the money still has to come from some where.
Not saying we should sign Cole but on the basis that we will be offloading some big wage earners this summer and that he is still top quality and that he's got the experience we need I don't think its impossible that we could sign him. Last season we had two left backs in Enrique and Cissokho who barely played and picked up Coles wages combined. Add to that Cissokho's loan fee and the fact that in terms of sell on value one had none and the other will go for much less than we paid for him. If we signed Moreno (example) for 15m would he better than Cole? Would there be a huge upside in his fee? How many LBs every go for more than that (Shaw, because he's English, aside)
21 May 2014 15:29:41
How are people voting for the b team league in the poll. it would mess up everything what happens if Liverpool b is playing Tranmere and we have 3 players on loan tgere?. should they play. or the cups i'm not 100% on wether thy could play but if they can its more of a shambles? I just don't think shoving youth teams in just above the conference has any merit. if anything it will destroy even more small clubs. am looking to hear others opinions though.
21 May 2014 16:37:51
I agree, if all cubs did the same it would double the football league, I think a better idea would be to have a totally seperate b team league with promotion, relegation, play offs :)
That's what I originally was being suggested. I kind of guess they have that with youth and reserve leagues but tbh I know nothing about these really or if there is promotion in these or if there is any real competitive edge.
But people say it works in Spain well as far as I can see it works only from Barça and Madrid and the rest of the club's in Spain are crippled. I know that this is not the only reason for that obviously their tv deals etc are the big ones but I wouldn't call this a big success in Spain certainly not for the bigger picture.
21 May 2014 14:52:30
I'm pretty intrigued by links with Hakan Calhanoglu (yes, I spelled that without looking it up) from HSV in the German Bundesliga. He's coming off of a breakthrough season, albeit for an underachieving side with ageing players (Rene Adler, Rafael Van der Vaart) that very nearly was relegated.
All that said, I post quotes from two articles on the player:
With Lasogga taking the best player, attacking midfielder Hakan Calhanoglu showed quality beyond his years to lift Hamburg right when they needed it most. In light of the fading and disgruntled celebrity that captain Rafael van der Vaart has become, the 20-year-old Turk often dragged the club towards victory on his own, scoring 11 goals and assisting four. A move away beckons, but he proved to be more than just a set-piece pony, and Hamburg benefited hugely.
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"They were shocked [Carl Jarchow and Oliver Kreuzer] when I told them that I wanted to go. They had not expected, because for them I was always the small, quiet Hakan, " he told the Hamburger Morgenpost.
"Mr. Jarchow had a bet with newspaper reporters that I would stay with HSV if we got relegated.
"I thought that was disrespectful. I gave everything for HSV and he made bets about my future.
"I came here great hope, but I lost it. The coaching change, the whole discussion. For me as a young player that was hard to deal with."
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It seems likely that he'll be making a move this summer. The second article also mentions that Arsenal and Liverpool have looked at the player during January. Of course, this site states pretty plainly that Chelsea, Atletico and Fenerbache are going for him and that Liverpool is not interested.
Could that have changed? Do Liverpool have a chance up against Atletico and Chelsea? We could certainly offer him first team football -- we don't exactly have a ton of options at LM.
{Ed002's Note - Galatasary, Bayer Leverkusen, Chelsea and Arsenal have shown an interest in Hakan Calhanoglu. Calhanoglu is a player Chelsea were trying to strike a deal for but Hamburg's price was well beyond Chelsea's valuation. They are expected to talk to Hamburg again.}
21 May 2014 14:42:30
I am an American. I started following Liverpool about 14 years ago. Great club, great history, great atmosphere at matches. Though, the more I read pages like this one the more I wish I would have started following a lower league side. Its one thing to be critical of your team, and its another to have no happiness in what they achieve. 7th to 2nd! And an unfortunate Gerrard slip against Chelsea and the title was ours! But that's life. You win some you lose some and you go on. So my plea to Liverpool fans out there in the world is, in the immortal words of Bobby McFerrin, "Dont worry, be happy!"
Not worrying and I am so happy
21 May 2014 17:21:08
Who is bobby mcpherin
21 May 2014 14:14:23
Eto'o anyone? Good squad player and has experience in Europe. Unlikely I know but was looking at a few of players out of contract this summer and there's a few decent picks.
Nailed on for Mallorca isn't he? Pretty sure he said his plan was to play at Chelsea for a yea then go back to Mallorca
{Ed002's Note - He is considering his options. Would you really want a 40 year old striker who would cost the club £10M for a one year contract?}
One word. Wages
And a second word - NO
21 May 2014 17:54:51
Ed002 with a beauty.
21 May 2014 17:54:36
Woah Ed002, you don't want say that. Eto'o would be bad mouthing you now.
{Ed002's Note - He is 45 now and slowing down a bit.}
Why don't we go for Romario or Batistuta instead? Proven goalscorers and about the same age.
He's actually 43 years old
Lol TheRedDane. Maradona looks in good shape for the WC; give him Eto'o's wages for a year and the kit sales will be more than 10 million!
22 May 2014 06:10:05
Roger Milla was alright at that age.
21 May 2014 13:46:26
Hi ed
From last two seasons when ever we tried to buy a big name player that deal dint go through do u think it's mistake of owners not wanting to give that sort of money or is it Ayer not able to manage it hope this time it won't be a case like William etc
Would like to know your opinion
Thanks ed
{Ed002's Note - Transfers faiol to go through for lots of different reasons, money, players not wanting to move to certain sides etc..}
21 May 2014 13:08:17
Ed001, i'd be hugely grateful if you'd be able to answer a question for me. I see you are of the opinion we may move for another goalkeeper this summer, would you happen to know if there has been any confirmed interest in Rui Patricio of Sporting Lisbon. I have watched him on plenty of occasions for club and country and have been extremely impressed with him.
Thanks A lot
{Ed002's Note - I am pretty sure Ed001 is on a flight today so he can't answer your questions Sam.}
21 May 2014 15:26:25
Okay, thanks for that. Hope you are keeping dandy Ed002.
{Ed002's Note - I left Dandy with Ed007 to look after.}
I wouldn't trust Ed007. I hear he still entertains a mullet and is a big fan of Milli Vanilli
21 May 2014 13:27:21
Hi Ed
My wish list would be Morgan Schneiderlin, Emre Can, James Milner, Dani Parejo, Dejan Lovren, Alberto Moreno, Wilfried Bony, Yevhen Konoplyanka. If we can complete 4 out of this list which would give us LB, CB, DM, AM, and another ST option. Wont have to break the bank and are all possibly available.
Royzered
21 May 2014 14:19:22
Emre Can, Since Schneiderlin would cost us high.
James Milner would be a very good signing, He is a Real hardowrker and a decent footballer. I doubt his wages at city.
Parejo, Dejan Lovren, Alberto Moreno, Wilfried Bony -Not going to happen
Kono / Shaquiri would do it
Apart from Moreno none of them are an upgrade to what we already have,
Moreno/Bertrand
Lallana
Sanchez
Would be my choice, don't understand why we want lovren for one he plays on the left side CB for Southampton an two is he really better than agger or skrtle?
Why would you want 4 central midfielders?
21 May 2014 12:43:15
Does anyone feel for Southampton fans? As soon as they start building a brilliant team from basically nothing all the big teams just buy all their best players. As a fan you may as well give up ever getting close to the top or building because that's how football works. I would hate it if I was one of them teams.
Well without being condescending (trying anyway) that is how a lot of smaller town teams have to survive.
Pass our money down to them - small payment for their scouting and
indeed nurturing system
21 May 2014 14:20:26
i feel for the saints fans, but saying that they haven't sold anyone yet.
If they do sell some of their better players, they will be compensated well. Nothing to feel sorry for, just business. Do you feel sorry for the newsagent having to sell all his chocolate and newspapers?
It happens to many more than just Southampton, Atletico are always selling their best strikers, spurs and arsenal regularly sell their best players. And it happens to us as well of course.
21 May 2014 13:04:07
OK, another acceptable offer from LFC for a player? Not surprising. I am all for being prudent when spending money but perhaps the committee (who decide what a player should cost) may need to have a look at their track record with these offers?
Mkhitaryan, Willian, Salah, Konoplyanka, Lallana and now Lovren are all examples of players who have gone elsewhere/stayed put because LFC pissed off their last/current clubs.
Sometimes you get a good bargain like Coutinho and Sturridge but my question is, wouldn't this kind of method of doing business result in some very pissed off clubs refusing to deal with LFC?
21 May 2014 13:28:25
I sorta agree upto some extent with your point. Its really disgusting to see our transfer targets (Each and every minute deyails ) are being published in papers.
Mkhitaryan, Willian, Salah, Konoplyanka, Lallana.
I have some serious doubt, whether, we actually did bid for any of this player.
Willian was never happening at 35 mill
Salah- As BR said, we did contact his agent and couldn't table a proper bid to basel.
Kono is a mystery, If he was available for 12 mil, what on earth were we doing in Jan?
Mickky choosed Dortumand over us.
I don't think we going to get Lallana, (Cant blame the Owners, One good season, 25 mill, 26 years old, Caroll and Downing nightmare, Alberto, Aspas, nightmare)
Couldn't agree more AG, somebody at the club is simply getting it wrong in my opinion
AG I agree mate, it's like we don't know the value of players put on clubs I'd rather not offer anything that a stupidly low bid, it's like when arsenal bid for Suarez they new it wouldn't work so why do it? If we won't match Southamptons valuation we should move on not just monitor the situation for the next 6 weeks!
21 May 2014 14:06:16
If goals by home grown players counted.
Liverpool would have won the Premier League and City would have been relegated
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/ 05/11/upshot/up-soccer-table.html?
If you look at these players though guys there not worth the money being asked and that's what the club see.
I fail to see why lovren is a step up to agger or skrtle
Lallana would be a good signing but u have to think there's a lot of players who can do the same job that we can buy for 30m.
21 May 2014 15:31:06
I understand that in negotiations you just don't pay the asking price but there is a limit for a low ball offer.
We are basically telling those clubs we think you're best players are worthless. Why even bother pissing off the saints then suddenly wonder why these players go elsewhere.
We seriously need a good transfer window this summer, we can't see our top targets go to clubs not even in the CL.
I agree with you AG but don't you remember the owners saying they won't pay over the odds for players, they got their fingers burnt with the carrol, downing and charlie adam deals and others I can't think of because its not just the the valuation rom the club think of all the add ons like wages and agent fees, I don't want our club to pay top rate for a player who then gets sold for cheaper to another club, the way I see it though is our owners won't budge for a few mill more to get the player, its happend for years at our club, I i remember rightly we could have had daniel alves but because the selling club put the price up by 1 or 2 mill we lost out then the club who signed alves sold him making a huge profit to barca,
whats doing my head in is that we never won the prem because of our defence and a few goal keeping errors, so for me I think BR and the club should be getting that sorted out 1st, we scored over a 100 goals, like man city but look at what they paid out for players, and their wage bill, we don't have a good spine in out team so I want us to get that sorted,
we don't know why deals are not working out for us but if we bought players like carrol and paid the same amount for them then we would all be moaning
i trust BR and the owners and the club after last season, we just needed good luck instead of the bad luck, instead man city got the good luck with the gerrard slip,
man utd got van persie, it done nothing for them accept cause upset
im looking forward to see who we end up with though
Whether the parent club of these players overvalue them shouldn't be reason for us to offer a very unacceptable bid.
If we feel the player is too costly, why not just look for someone else rather than waste our, theirs and the players time with such ridiculous offers?
Like I said, I love it that we are prudent with our transfer dealings nowadays (never want to see another Carroll, Downing etc type of bids), but we could do better with these kind of offers.
My Dad's a Soton season ticket holder, says Lallana is the best player he has seen there since Le Tissier and might still be better. I personally think he would be an amazing signing, and would probably rather him than 2 bench warmers for the same price.
That being said, if the club wants him they need to stump up the cash or move on. This tactic of low balling and trying to beat the price down is getting us nowhere, the longer we wait the more chance there is that either other teams come in for the player or Soton dig their heels in.
Summary, amazing player, would be ecstatic if we got him, but if we aren't going to make an offer Soton might accept we need to drop hands and move on to the next one, and quickly!
It's a difficult one; didn't we get quoted first time round of £35m from Ajax for Suarez and managed to get him for £22.5m (v approx)?
In terms of low values then I suppose people have been doing that to us for years - then again that's down to us getting contracts run down (see M Owen) or we no longer want the player hence it being not the value we want.
This is sort of the angle I was coming at with Lallana - as someone in the press knows we bid - where did the leak come from? If it's us then low bid + the leak would mean people wouldn't want to deal with us; unless they had to IMO.
17 or 20 million or whatever it was, was certainly not a low bid. There has been conflicting reports in the papers about how much Saints want for Lallana (25, 30 or 35).
Now, I am sure would have a rough idea of what would be acceptable but would go with a low bid anyway (that is how negotiations work) but it has to be a decent offer or we will piss of the players tea,, like we did with many others and how Arsenal bid with Suarez.
Hoola, we seriously pissed off Ajax if you remember. I think Comolli bid something like 12 million at first.
Have to agree with you, real AG. Just waiting for the 'what are they smoking at Anfield' tweets from Liebherr.
Utterly ridiculous.
I'm glad we dìdn't overpay on Mkhitaryan, Willian, Salah - and that's if we were even trying to sign all of them in the first place.
The Konoplyanka deal was blown by their (Dnipro) chairman, and anyone dumb enough to spend the likes of £25m on the latest England darling Lallana is an person in my view. He's a good player, and I have watched him for years now, but there are better available for half that amount.
As for stating that Lallana and Lovren deals are blown because we 'pissed off' their clubs. that is just infantile. The transfer window isn't even opened yet.
Get a grip, people.
I for one am sick of the stupid financial mismanagement that saw us crippled financially only a few years ago.
The likes of Jovanovich and J. Cole on over 100k a week, nothing players like Degen and El Zhar on 25k+, the likes of Konchesky and N'Gog on 30k. There are many other examples, pick your own favourite.
We have reduced the wage bill and disposed of the bulk of the overpaid, underachieving dross of the Rafa, Kenny and Hodgson eras and are now prudent in our approach, seldom paying the big 20m+ fees and only paying 60-100k+ money to our best players who deserve it.
And the result has been the best side we've seen in years.
Worrying about transfers when it's only May is hyperbolic nonsense. We'll be fine.
21 May 2014 17:54:05
Ed002 has told us that we cannot afford to spend a lot because of our financial state. Maybe this could be a line drawn by the club towards reducing that spending. It could be temporary till we stabilise. Just my opinion. Don't forget we have been a joke signing players for way beyond their value in their past.
Suarezisagenius speaks sense. Could not agree more my friend.
Torn between two mindsets.
Ultimately I'm not going to worry too much about it and keep faith in how we are conducting our transfer business.
At the end of the day we finished second and I feel we don't need to make wholesale changes / loads of signings. But the teams around us will strengthen so I feel we will need to do so also. However we do that I don't mind, as long as we don't get caught up in having to purchase decent overprices players at the end of the window when we could have signed real quality, for a few extra million, at the beginning of the window.
That said, I would pay that extra couple of million for Lallana if I had any say.
It's still early doors - no other clubs have made any significant moves as of yet - with the exception of Chelsea who seem to have Costa wrapped up? (Is he worth the money they are paying though?)
Cheers.
Agree with SuarezisaGenius regarding England's new darling. He's a decent player but while trying to fix our club's finances, value for money is what we must be looking for and Adam will not give you that.
Hi AG - yes I believe we did - some people will just not want to deal with us - low bid will annoy people; low bid and leaking it will piss people off and seriously consider not doing business with us.
I completely understand why we try to do this but by the same token I think we need to be a bit more realistic or not bother bidding - let someone else make themselves look persons before us!
Suarezisagenius is so right. Thank God some fans are not in charge of negotiating with tems because we would have been in administration years ago w/ their rubbish of "just pay what they ask for at the first attempt". We will not pay over the odds for ANYBODY because we can`t afford it. You don`t go into a negotiation session with that attitude otherwise you will be fleeced in broad daylight. Lallana for 25m? Willian at 30m for his production this year? As J W Henry said, "what are these people smoking?" If the saints want 25 - 30m for AL then they can bloddy well keep him. We will offer what we think is right and if the clubs or players say no then they can do one and get lost. We didn`t spend like Chelsea and City and nearly finished ahead of both by winning the league. AM has a wage structure smaller than that of Fulham and the players on that team are worth a fraction of those in RM and Barca. Look where they are now. Money isn`t everything and LFC will no longer bow to other clubs` outrageous demands.
I think Emre Can is a must buys this summer. As for the WM/AM player there are about seven options I would be happy with. Lallana, Shaqiri, Konoplyanka, Pastore, Muniain, Griezmann or El Sharaawy.
Cheers lads. Captain sensible would be proud of us all. :)
22 May 2014 09:21:16
Some of you need to read what I said carefully as you certainly haven't got what I mean.
Suarezisagenius, Anfieldboy and redohio, I clearly said in my posts (there were 3 in this thread) that I love us to be more prudent and don't want another Carroll, Henderson, Downing type bids. However, there has to be certain number which might be tempting or make the parent clubs of the players we want, want to negotiate. Ed002 has already said we pissed of Basel and Dnipro with our lowballing first offers.
Overpaying is subjective. It was overpaying for you but not for others. We didn't consider those players worthy of being paid that much to get them; but, in this market, if you want the right players, we may need to come close to what the parent club needs.
My point however was about wasting time, effort, energy and no doubt money and creating general chaos for the clubs concerned and the players themselves, with our really poor offers which would never get the deal done.
If we don't think we can spend that much, stop pissing everyone off and move to another feasible target.
Next time, try reading what others write before spouting inane nonsense and denigrating others, which makes you look irascible.
21 May 2014 11:38:30
are we going to bid for Yaya Toure?. ha, just joking.
But, is it true that Rodgers wants to get players signed before the world cup, or is it more realistic that we will wait until after the world cup (because of injuries or lack of time)
cheers
{Ed002's Note - The world cup begins before the transfer window opens.}
20 May 2014 22:19:42
Ed001 what do you make of Aggers comments do you think he will knuckle down stay or jump ship
{Ed002's Note - Ed001 is not around. LFC will let Agger leave.}
Agger has been an extremely good player . He is now a poor player who cannot mark opponents, which is a problem if you are a defender .
Yes, he is giving lots of interviews, why doesn't he explain his poor form?
21 May 2014 13:30:14
Dezyboy
Jump ship?. which ship?, He is in a ship currently and probably would end up in a small baot.
Agger`s time is gone and he w/ Skrtl and GJ are no longer our future. They are now our past. Great servants to the club and we are grateful for their services to the cause. We move on.
21 May 2014 10:49:04
Hello to Ed002
In your humble opinion who do you think Liverpool will look to sign. Not written in stone just your honest opinion. You tell it as it is at times and you have but a few peoples noses out of joint but hey it makes for good and entertaining reading. I just wondered what your thoughts are and if you have any info the rags aren't spewing out.
Royzered
{Ed002's Note - I can tell you where I know of interest but that is very far from who will actually sign. For example, there was interest in Salah but who was to know that the club would make such a low offer and the Rodgers would stick his foot in it. There is interest in Lallana and the kid will be open to a move. Liverpool know what they have to do, but I don't know if they will.}
Cheers Ed thanks for the reply, can you elaborate how Rodgers stuck his foot in it and I agree over Lallana we must pay the fee or move on.
Royzered
{Ed002's Note - The whole Salah thing was dealt with at the time, I really don't want to open it all up again.}
21 May 2014 11:50:34
Ed002, Wasnt also a reason, Salah wanted a move to Chelsea or Real?
Lallana's case is spot on, We would be waiting till he hands a TR. (which is not going to happen)
I don't have a problem, If we don't value the player above a certain price, But waiting things to happen is stupidity.
{Ed002's Note - It is irrelevant as he was never going to move to Liverpool for the reasons I gave.}
Liverpool need to pay for lallana or move on.if you are willing to pay 20m why not improve the bid to 25m since he's our number 1 summer target
We need to indentify players we can afford rather than keep putting in low bids for players we say we want
If you offer 20 and they want 25 why not?? You don't automatically pay 25% more than you want to spend. If you don't agree then I wish I was you local shopkeeper
Or why not just look for another player?
Maybe Southampton are waiting for firm bids from other clubs. That gives them a negotiating angle with Liverpool. We are the only ones in a rush here, but clearly not so much of a rush to spend 5-10m more than we value the player at. July 1st is when you'd be paying any new players wages anyway which is nearly 6 weeks away. If we have to wait until after the World Cup to sort some deals out so be it.
The saints are prob hoping for a bidding war so they can get the best deal and that is smart BUT Lfc should not be drawn into a bidding war because AL isn`t worth it IMO.
21 May 2014 10:44:08
Hi Eds
A variety of sources are suggesting Konoplyanka can be bought for £12m due to a clause in his contract (according to Dnipro). Do you know if this is true? I'm aware you have suggested our interest has cooled, but this is a lower price than was being discussed in Jan and potentially half of what we might have to pay for Lallana. Seems like a no-brainer for me.
Paul
{Ed002's Note - I have no interest in discussing money.}
21 May 2014 10:59:57
I would jump and sign him, If he is worth below 15 mill.
Harry have you really got the 15m spare
21 May 2014 12:20:50
Of course, Infact I would save Liverpool 10 mill from the 25mill proposed for Lallana.
21 May 2014 10:36:54
Hey eds I'm just wondering how much a player thinks about their families in relation to a transfer, I'll cut to the chase this is more in relation to suarez I hear he recently put his daughter into schooling and what knot so do you reckon that a player could reject transfers solely on the fact their family are happy where they are and do you think this would be a factor if real or barca made a move for suarez I'm only asking due to the fact I recently turned down a good job opportunity due to the fact I didn't feel comfortable moving away from everyone I know. Thanks for your time
{Ed002's Note - There are legal obligations to educate children. Living where he does will not stop Suarez moving should a suitable opportunity arise.}
21 May 2014 10:46:39
reading through the posts on who were looking to replace or move on I couldn't see it being possible. mingolet, enrique, agger, skertle, aspas, lucas and with moses and cissoko going back that's 8 from this seasons squad! have I got the figures wrong? or with borini and suso coming back is this where rodgers gets 6 from?
Enrique barely played, and effectively Flanagan was added to the squad because he played so well! Cissokho the same really, hardly played after flan fans breakthrough! Aspas barely played either, and agger was a bit part player with the possibility of ilori playing'!
I expect Mignolet, Enrique, Skrtel and Lucas to stay.
21 May 2014 13:32:54
The Real AG
Mignolet and Skertel are certainly staying, Enrique is up in the air, What would you say about the rumours on Can?. We are not going to have 3 DM in the team. And don't you think we need an upgrade on Lucas?. Vidal, Pogba, Alonso, Bender, Gundagaon, Strooterman, Yaya. These are the names you going to hear in CL.
I would say that Enrique will not move just because no other team will risk buying him with his recent injury concerns.
Apart from bender and Strootman, none of the ones you mention are holding midfielders.
I know Enrique is available but I think he will stay.
I don't take your views on Lucas seriously Harry. You said that any player would be better than Lucas couple of days ago.
21 May 2014 09:22:15
How Stuppid, Fabrigas would cost any team in the excess of 35 mill and Sanchez would go at below 20 mill.
Certainly Player power at Barca, Messi wouldn't allow anyone to steal the show.
21 May 2014 08:41:05
Rodgers said we need players for the starting 11 in this window. If that's the case, and the fact we need 1 or 2 extra attacking midfielders/wingers/strikers then we have to go all out for Alexis Sanchez. He is by far the best forward player we are being linked with and if rumours are true that he is available then we need him.
21 May 2014 09:17:14
He would cost some in wages (As per Eds and his current earnings), Realestic would be Shaquiri and Kono.
21 May 2014 08:31:20
Just want to say RIP to Akli Fairuz who died after a horror tackle which led to rupture in his intestine.
Embarrassing things continue to happen from football in my country
Similar thing already happened in the past, you can google a player named Jumadi Abdi who also died because of intestinal perforation after being kicked in the abdomen during a match in our league. The player who kicked him only received yellow card and later banned for only 4 months.
21 May 2014 08:10:40
Hai Eds. Mng and awsome day ahead
At 12 mill Kono would be a Dream signing, If we ain't for Shaquiri. I fear we would rag Lallana whole summer and come back empty hand.
If UTD were to get Kono, we must get Shaquiri.
21 May 2014 08:02:26
Hi eds,
Is there anything regarding Liverpool for these players
Abel hernendez
Munian
Suseuta
Benzema.
Also will the following move?
Reina, assaidi, wisdom, suso, borini, agger, skrtel, Suarez.
Apologies for not searching as I don't get my answers when I do so. Awesome job eds, my number one site for rumours.
{Ed002's Note - You need to read the posts if searching is too difficult.}
21 May 2014 09:28:56
We have no interest in the first 3, Benzema would come in the pic, If real comes with an offer for Suarez, We don't need him. He won't score anything from half way line, Nor he would hit anyehere near the post from a free-kick, He is just a good finisher like Hernandez but with a Bigger club.
Reina, Assaidi, and Agger are almost Off, Borini would be staying So does Skertel. Suso future depends on Lallana or anyother ACM we might bring in.
I expect Lucas and Johnson to move.
Lucas and Johnson will be at LFC for another year IMO.
When you are trying to buy a player, I am pretty sure the club doesn't consider whether the player can "score from halfway" or "hit the post from free kicks" as a criteria.
21 May 2014 13:52:19
The Real AG
Yes, But Suarez isn't just a striker.
Are there any not just strikers that regularly score from halfway line and hit the woodwork Harry?
21 May 2014 07:41:41
Would like to see Ilori and Sakho partnership next season, agger looks like he's off and I think Ilori can hold a better line than skrtel we need more pace in defence, I don't think we should buy another centre back. I wince whenever I see skrtel grab a shirt or get turned, on the other hand he's so good in the air we'll miss that threat, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
21 May 2014 08:35:50
I wish I was as immune to criticism as sackho.
I'm on the fence here as to wether this is a genuine attempt or sarcasm!
I think Ilori needs another loan.
I agree with square tomato. I think skrtle is and always has been extremely limited and error prone. Both Sakho and Agger are much better defenders
Nevada
21 May 2014 02:33:04
I know a guy who works in the best pâtisserie in Liverpool and he has just told me they received an order from a "Mr. Rodgers". The order is to make a giant Bugatti shaped pastry with "Welcome to Liverpool Football Club" written over it in red icing. Surely this means Toure to Liverpool? He would be an excellent addition in my opinion.
Or is Carlos coming to town? He's only 86 so a couple of years left in him yet!
He would still do a better job than Enrique ;)
One of the funnier snippets of rubbish of I've read for a while!
21 May 2014 02:03:02
I am not convinced of both sakho-skrtel and agger-skrtel partnerships. IMO the first choice lacks commanding and technic, the second one lacks strength. I don't think ilori will be ready next season either.
Finger crossed we can get Lovren for a decent price and ASAP so we can try different combination at pre season
I find it incredible that the partnership of Toure and Sahko was not even tried during the season.
I think this is the best partnership at the club.
Your right barnsey but the thing is toure kept kicking the ball into his own net when he got a game
21 May 2014 10:26:04
what are you on about jim? Toure has 1 own goal. to Skrtels 4!
21 May 2014 11:04:07
BR rates Skertel and he won't be moving, Instead Agger is off.
You haven't read what Ed001 has said on the Skrtel matter have you Home_Fan?
Skrtl has more holes in his game than a slice of swiss cheese.
{Ed003's Note - groans lol}
21 May 2014 00:02:39
What's all this group of death rubbish?
Pot 2, Dortmund.
That'll do for me.
Cos they will be going right out if they meet Liverpool.
Dortmund, Roma.
Bring it on.
Let's be honest, any group we end up in will be a 'group of death' because our current euro standing and subsequent position in the pots will make it so.
There won't be any teams relishing a place in our group because they know we have the ability to stuff them up big time for qualification!
Whether we are savvy enough at this point will remain to be seen, but it's going to be fun watching!
It's the Group of Death because LFC are in it.
Apparently, we could get Porto, Basel and a qualifying team as one of the "easiest" draws.
20 May 2014 23:59:40
Ed is there any 1 you think Liverpool will sign in the summer because you all say no to everyone's post??
{Ed002's Note - Sure.}
Ed, is that sure or Shaw?
{Ed007's Note - Are you dyslexic?}
LOLZ. Ed007. Where did that come from?
CLASS!
vrcomp
Y.N.W.A.
21 May 2014 08:20:10
Ed002 I used to think your replies were sarcastic, but I don't think that is the case. I think they are honest and u don't care what people think about your replies, its refreshing and hilarious at times. Please keep it up.