Liverpool Banter Archive May 21 2012
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21 May 2012 23:29:41
Marvin Martin and Ryad Boudebouz have announced that they both intend to leave Sochaux in the summer.
The midfield duo confirmed their decisions on Sunday following their club's 1-0 victory over Ligue 1 rivals Marseille.
LFC should get them even though Martin's performance dipped this season.
SLURed
They're both great prospects really, Boudebouz is a good player, but he looks to have the flop gene in him, he can go missing. He reminds me of Gio Dos Santos in the way that when he plays for his national team, he's almost unstoppable, but you never see him do this as well when he's with his club, but also much like Gio, he's very promising talent-wise.
Marvin Martin i like, that is all i have to say, i've seen him a little bit and what i've seen he looks very very intelligent.
Red7.
21 May 2012 23:27:50
just to take peoples mind off our next manager if we could pick one player aged 21 or under to play for us next season who would it be
jeff:)
naymar {Ed001's Note - Sterling.}
Christian Eriksen for me...
RDL
Outside of our current crop it would be gotze.
Square tomato
If you mean from anywhere iker muniain from players we already have id like to see sterling brought into the team. CRAIG
Great shout ed, cracking player and i think he will get a shot next season.
KiwiRed
Lucas moura from brazil
I go for Christian Eriksen
TheBA300
There are heaps. Not just the FIFA12 ones either. Obviously Gotze, Eriksen, Muniain and Draxler. But go a year or 2 older it's easier again, Reus, Kagawa or even Cristian Clemens. They are just everywhere in the Bundesliga!
We should sign that messi guy hes decent
21 May 2012 23:24:00
Kagawas 16.7 mil price tag is nothing, make that back in a month with cracking the Asian market! Do you rate him ed? {Ed001's Note - yes, excellent player.}
He is worth at least 30mil....too bad he wont his contract so that dortmund could get a fairer price by selling him later
I agree that he's a cracking player, but I'm not sure you understand what cracking a market really means, or rather if it even exists today. Any shirt sales of a potential Asian player DO NOT go to the club's coffers (well, a small percentage does to be fair), it goes to the shirt manufacturers.
McSnuggles
16.7? i can't believe Dortmund would settle for that, wonderful player!
Red7.
FYI When Nakata signed for Roma the club released a special edition Polo top which went a long way to paying his transfer fee... just saying
Richards
21 May 2012 23:23:38
Dalglish to be unveiled as manager tomorrow. Kelly Dalglish that is... The first female premiership boss. Liverpool always were trend setters...
Would probably do a better job than her Dad
Sorry to be picky, but her name is Kelly Cates nowadays.
21 May 2012 23:22:48
has there been any developments with the manager position as was gonna put a few quid on both rogers and avb but when i went on hills website it says prices no longer available cheers CRAIG
No idea why hills site not offering odds but paddy power is with avb fav 9/4 martinez then others
21 May 2012 23:20:57
Hi fellow reds .
I think avb will get the job ,and he has to prove himself in pl ,this is why i think he will be a good manager and prove chelsea wrong . We are liverpool ,loyal and support the manager and players ,like always, we are the best fans in the world ,lets get behind them
paul ynwa77
No AVB is nothing more than a scout, bit of s**te scout at that.
Are we loyal ? 2 words Roy Hodgson !
What he did at porto was not the work of a scout
21 May 2012 23:20:24
Roberto Martinez set to fly to US for second Interview and face to face talks with owners..now looking the preferred choice of the American owners.
21 May 2012 23:19:46
avb is aprox 34 yrs old with steve clarke as no 2 both ex chelsea ..leaves me all speechless..wat happened to lfc ?
What do you mean?
21 May 2012 23:18:56
hi macca,eds and fellow reds,
RAFA BENITEZ save our club,never should have been sacked,why cant people see if he was working under FSG things would never have worked out like they did.the man loves lfc like we all do and hes one of the best managers out there hes available and would jump at the chance to come back.reina,johnson,agger,skyrtel,and lucas is proof that his stamp is still on the team in a positive way.i know people are gonna start pointing out ye but this and that and slating the man but in reality we won champions league finished runners up under him ,won fa cup had highest ever points tally in league ,number one team in europe for 3 years and we could always get top players to sign just didnt have the right owners backing us ,now we do it would be guarenteed sucess for us.its way too much a risk giving the job to martinez ,avb or rodgers there midtable and relagation battle managers who if things go wrong it will set us back years,Rafa may not be everybodies choice but we would be guarenteed to be a real force in europe again.
thanks
jeff:)
He's also been unemployed for 18 months - there's a reason for that I reckon - no one thinks he's good enough and no good side wants him.
John B
21 May 2012 23:17:22
Hold the Back page on Sky have just Assassinated Fenways Handleing of Management recruitment Process at LFC. Dont like them, but they made point of cultural differences. However their sneering dismissal of LFC as no longer a big club(Lesser than Chavski was stated) Has me Fuming even if partially true. But to state club with 70,000 turn out as opposed to ours= Morons
21 May 2012 23:16:17
avb is 34 yrs old with steve clarke as no 2 both ex chelsea ..leaves me all speechless..
21 May 2012 23:10:20
anybody else watching hold the back page special on sky sports 1, paul smith from the sun what a prck, only concern to try and get as many digs in about liverpool,
He is clueless mate. PS is one of the worse journos about. He could be working for the Guardian and still be a useless prck.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
21 May 2012 23:08:06
Can we just apologise to kenny and let him carry on his job? :D
he stabilised, and started to rebuild. Look at our team, and the injuries, bans etc. Its a miracle we made 2 finals and 8th place.
Instilled confidence in carroll and hendo, and i feel all the work will just be undone.
Shoulda had 1 more year, or least till xmas
Ben the red
21 May 2012 23:00:51
Have a feeling John Henry and co may go for someone obscure and perhaps more well known to them from his successful stint in the MLS. Steve nicol. Legend as a player but how would he do as manager?
Maybe they will get us a baseball manager lol.
21 May 2012 22:47:44
Love how rodgers odds have halved from 12/1 to 6/1 and constantly shortening since Macca made his information known....
A lot of people on here must have been putting a bet on! haha ;)
CHickey.
Perhaps Macca is working for the bookies:(
kidmillions
21 May 2012 22:47:01
you just grind your teeth and grawl reading the player rumours between the manager and DoF ones knowing the pizza is not done yet to put the topping. not to mention teamsheets!.
21 May 2012 22:42:49
ssh dont tell any one but cappello and eden hazard will sign next week cappello will play up front wi suarez and hazard will be new manager ......ssh you ant seen me right.
21 May 2012 22:41:25
Will you people questioning FSG give them a chance. They are very impressed with what is going on at the Academy where Frank, Jose and Rudolfo are trying to instill a style of play throughout the club that will benefit us massively in the coming years. They are not going to bring a manager in who wants the first team to play in a totally different style, effectively wasting all the good work already done. They will find the right manager, along with the right people in the various posts that need filling, who will all work together for the good of the club. Id rather they took their time and got all appointments right. The future is bright, lets get behind the club because it will be a waste of time appointing anyone if the fans dont back it up 100%...kendoddsdadsdog.
21 May 2012 22:40:29
Hi all
In terms of who will get the job, surely one of the biggest criteria would be the "shortlist" of players he would like to attract to the club - but also the likliehood of attracting those players. If it is between AVB and Martinez, if afraid to say AVB would have more sway in the transfer market.
The only stumbling block is - have Chelsea not got a clause that he can't manage for a year, like what they did with Ancelotti, or else he looses his payout?
Pablo
21 May 2012 22:38:56
Liverpool asked Jose Mourinho to be their new manager.
He replied "I'm not that f***** special"
Mitul
First time i d ever agree with him.
21 May 2012 22:32:34
Suarez is not leaving!! Hes enjoying playing in England and loving life at liverpool now stop the nonsense! Only players who may be out the door are aurelio,aquliani,cole,maxi and possibly kuyt depending on the manager coming in.
I think Suarez will sign for Juventus, Easy option out of a bad situation and he'll get champions league football
21 May 2012 22:28:24
I'm starting to think that all unsigned posts which name possible managers or players are all actually from Daniel Halwell!
Chris in Tamworth
Nobody cares what you think do they?
21 May 2012 22:26:48
All you guys saying this and that will be announced tomorrow, no offence guys but you're all talking tosh. Lets face it, none of us know anything. All of the decisions are being made in america , not over here so it's very unlikely that anyone will actually hear anything real.
21 May 2012 22:26:18
Hey macca
Is the manager among avb,deschamps,rafa,martinez or do u think there are suprises in store for us?
Sanket india
Chewits and starbars. Now they were surprises...
Cuchulainn's Hounds
21 May 2012 22:24:31
Maybe we going to get a manager that has not been mentioned or maybe we will get one of the favorite names but either way it seems to be driving the media mad so they linking us to every name they can think of hoping to hit on the right name by chance and then claim the credit for getting it right!! It's all a big game to them but hopefully the owners are in talks with someone on the quiet and going to announce something soon so we can get on with the rebuilding of the team before its too late. My choice would be hiddink or billic (sorry for spelling) or then dechamps.
Sorry for spelling ? Why ? If you know you've spelt Bilic wrong, spell it bloody right.
21 May 2012 22:16:42
Why are people sayin sell suarez n buy torres, liverpool are trying to negotiate a transfer for torres to come back and play along side Suarez, this wil happen to try persuade suarez to stay, as this was the reason suarez came to liverpool (so he can play alongside torres)....AVB next liverpool manager
Liverpool till I die
Pray for better days
Avb and torres at lfc ....... never
jeff:)
Wat do u think ed? Any truth behind dis story? {Ed001's Note - nope.}
So that when we sell him to chelsea we get 50 million and then he'll say oh sh** torres is in liverpool(of course according to the reason u put), hands in a transfer request we buy him back and bloody live happily ever after !!
I wouldn't even allow torres to bring the lads the juice and orange slices at half time let alone sign him back again.
Cuchulainn's Hounds
Any thing can happen remember rushie.
21 May 2012 22:23:42
AVB- Lukaku and players seem to mkae out that he is the worst guy for the job- becuase of the way he treats players what do you think eds and also like for AVB or RAFA as manager
karl ynwa {Ed001's Note - he did have a lot of problems with the players, I wouldn't choose him or Rafa. Borrell would be a better choice than either for me.}
21 May 2012 22:20:55
Not really bothered if suarez was sold.
The whole mess with Evra reflected really bad on the club but I would not sell him for less than 30M and would like the money spent on new players.
Swan
Ps give Macca a break
Yeah i agree, Dont really want him at our club, Bad news follows him where ever he is, He bit a player when he was at ajax, cheated uruguay in the world cup and we all know what he said to Evra, Id be glad to see the back of him to be honest
Greg
Yeah sell Suarez, and buy Shane Long. Long will be able to attract big name players, and propel us toward the top 4. Really good idea.
Tekneek
21 May 2012 22:20:49
Enough !
Rafa now !
Did he just tell Rafa off?
Cuchulainn's Hounds
21 May 2012 22:20:27
mikel and lukaku have moaned about avb dont think he is the man we need , if he carnt get along with players then we have no hope , kenny almost got on with everyone !
long live king kenny
lw12
Apart from journalists and other managers
Mikel and lukaku? are they good enough to get in the chelsea team , when at full strength? not for me! so no wonder they winge about avb! having said that , i dont know if he"d be my first choice. ive a sneaky feeling for laudrup. godbless 96 all reds steviep62 {Ed001's Note - Mikel was most Chelsea fans MOTM in the Champions League final, he was first choice before AVB came in.}
21 May 2012 22:19:19
Why doesnt anyone want to manage us?
Rodgers, Klopp, De Boer and Deschamps wont even talk to us, Thats absolutely crazy. We are Liverpool Football Club for Gods sake
Did anyone see the clip on youtube where Llorente is asked ''What do you think of Biesla being linked with Liverpool?'' and he literally laughs out loud and says ''Why would he want to go there?''
Its so embarrasing to be a Liverpool supporter lately but ill never stop, Just wish we had a bit of good news for a change, Some decent signings, A good manager and a decent season
Phil
Stop believing everything you read !
So that also puts to bed the rumour of ever signing Fernando Llorente, no questions asked this summer about him.
Carb
I'm not embarrassed.
21 May 2012 22:17:52
FSG give the job to Sam Allardyce and end this charade! The King should never have been sacked. Now we're left to pick up the pieces and wallow in mediocrity. We deserve Allardyce and let's stop pretending we're the same Liverpool of the 70's and 80's. That's gone...it'll never come back. Appointing the King was like a trip to memory lane...at least he made us remember what it meant to be Kings of Europe and the best team in the land. Thanks FSG...we appreciate what you're doing but don't take us for a ride. If you can't match the Chelseas, Utd and City of this world then go back to Boston and focus on your baseball and leave us alone!
Sam Allardyce?!!.......This is a joke, right?
ANFIELDPETE
21 May 2012 22:16:53
It's well annoying but exciting to see who the next manager is going to be especially when the season arrives we should have a really fresh new team ready to get top 4! Even though I wouldn't mind rafa a new manager would be awesome unless he is rubbish then it's bad and then we should get rafa back lol
21 May 2012 22:06:05
why do liverpool mess around with these future players if there is one player for the future that is hazard why dont we show interest in big players, we may not be in champions league but we just dont show anough in the transfer market SHOW SOME WILLINGNESS SIGN SOMEONE BIG!
We already have AC he's pretty BIG
Because he doesnt deserve to wear the shirt no matter how good he may be.
Er...they don't show interest in us. Kinda crucial to the transfer process.
21 May 2012 22:05:18
Ed who will get the new cleaning role doris looks good on the stat index but marge has the experience.ynwa haha
21 May 2012 22:05:03
I want Rafa back now !
I don't want any lightweight men.
I want Rafe to be Tutti di Capo Tutti.
The big boss !
Total control of Liverpool. And I mean total control.
If we don't do this. We are finished.
Sounds like heads we lose tails we lose
Rafa to save the club but give him total control and the club will go into meltdown
HMMMMMMMMMM
21 May 2012 22:04:46
Allow me to retort to alot of you impatient so called Liverpool "supporters" out there, who are starting to embarrass us 'realistic' supporters.
FSG have invested in Liverpool FC for numerous reasons. One of which is mainly financial, another would be for global recognition and obviously personal success for everyone connected with FSG and Liverpool Football Club.
When you approach managers or players the idea is to get to a certain stage in the negotiations process before making it public through the media, obviously for mutual reasons between the club and the manager/player/Club.
What you see going on in the media is all hype and speculation. Ian Aire will be contacting managers just to know whether they're interested in the current managers job, that is it. Whether they're interested or not gives the owners some kind of idea of the current situation, it's called 'playing the field' also it's keeping everyone very busy and hopeful that change is coming to Anfield.
It's very safe to say that most of the names mentioned in the media are not serious targets at all, the serious targets will not be known, for reasons being, to keep all other options open, it's business. You don't make anything public until you know the process is nearly complete.
My opinion on why FSG are using the media as a tool to keep everyone busy and hopeful would be because of deals that are currently in process to be completed with possible investors for a new stadium i.e Air China and numerous others. Once they are sure whether a deal can be completed or not it puts the project for the new manager into a much more better perspective. This is just my opinion, the way they are approaching managers is very suspect and unorthodox and has diversion written all over it.
My message to the unhappy fans out there would be to just get on with your own priorities and just keep the faith in the investors, they want success just as much as you, believe me they have invested a hell of alot of money, more than we all put together will ever earn in a lifetime, Wait for official news regarding the manager and stop with the agenda against FSG.
Many Regards,
Daniel Hanwell
Daniel, you've already been shown up to be a bit of a Walter Mitty with your lies about your "contacts". Don't embarrass yourself further by trying to tell us how the system works when you clearly have no real idea
Chris in Tamworth
Walter Mitty is really offensive to my, a fellow red, a realistic option for rumours regarding LFC.
Many thanks to Lee BTW YNWA JFT 96
{Daniel Hanwell's note}
You say "embarasss us 'realistic' supporters' but then continue on and you spell Ian Ayre wrong? Reading your post, you clearly indicate that you spend time on this site and act as if you have contacts within LFC or FSG. Ian Ayre is a name that is mentioned on this website many, many times, he is also one of the main face's between LFC and the media, would think you'd least be able to spell his name right.
Carb
A spelling mistake is irellevant, as is the paragraph you just posted carb.
Interesting post daniel, but these days there really is no way of us knowing the intricacies of these dealings as every club has different policies and until a decision is official we may as well keep schtum and pray that the right decision is made
21 May 2012 21:01:34
I know we all want Cavani and Hazzard, but don't see owners spending 40 mil on a player. Questions for eds and hopefully macca, do we have any interest in Lewandowki from borrusia? Young, moves well, good passer and scores, and god we need more goals. More importantly seems to be between 15-20 mil. Think he would complement Suarez well.
Kagawa
21 May 2012 22:03:01
What a load of pathetic S&*^s !!
We do not manage our great club. we support it to death we are RED.
So what Kenny forced the owners hand and got himself pushed a little earlier. if you walk into your managers office tomorow and tell him to F&*& off do you really think he is gonna wait to find a replacement before showing you the door.... I think not.
We havent been rejected by half of europe and the truth is we dont know who the owners are looking at and who is interested.
So what do we know we know that so called fans and all the whinging thats going on is whats truly making us look like sh*&^.
As a liverpool fan I say support your club of F&*k off
Red or Dead
This post is offensive , we dont need that sort of language on here.
Show some class you neanderthal, one celled, brainless idiot....
oh and try taking english lessons
Unacceptable
Tel 1949
Intellectual debating style i see
In a few recent posts I have seen people complaining about fellow posters bad language,poor spelling,lack of grammar etc etc. It is true to say that often you will see a post consisting of a ten word sentence, three of which are filled with asterisks and a further four indecipherable. This doesn't necessarily mean the posters point is incorrect but
you tend to skip past rather than try to work out the meaning. THAT is the real problem !
Puzzled
21 May 2012 21:57:53
Ive seen a few posts claiming capello is the new manager AVB makes sense to what FSG want as they want a young manager and i assumed that capellos age ruled him out but just wondering if the eds or macca know use seem to have more of a clue than most ppl about lfc and fsg cheers CRAIG
21 May 2012 21:48:57
i like this website but i dont like the constant questions about the best players in the world coming to liverpool because we need to face it we cant attract those kinds of players. Also stop repeating other peoples questions, go down the page and look first to save the eds and macca the hassle. Lastly if macca does get some things wrong dont give him abuse because he is only giving you the info he knows, he doesnt have to do this. Please remember that
21 May 2012 21:47:58
Is the reason the manger hasn't been announced because he is still has one last competitive match to play with his current club? Bielsa anyone. Come on FSG, go get him!
21 May 2012 21:44:55
Borussia Dortmund's highly-rated Japanese midfielder Shinji Kagawa will cost prospective buyers around 20 million euros (£16.17m).
"We all know the abilities of Shinji, his youth and the value he adds to this side," said Watzke.
"I also note what Bayern Munich paid for goalkeeper Manuel Neuer (22 million euros from Schalke last year).
"He also only had a year left on his contract. Given those facts we can certainly expect a princely sum for him."
He wants to go to United and they want him so i doubt we have a chance signing him
And what does this have to do with Liverpool?
21 May 2012 21:34:49
I see Suarez has a competetion running where if you win you get to meet him before a league game at Anfield, surely he wouldn't of agreed to this if he planned on leaving? It's just whether the owners do...
Logic Lad.
21 May 2012 21:31:12
Outside bet on carragher to be player/with a role along side new manager.
21 May 2012 21:26:43
man utd
bayern munich
madrid
barcelona
chavki
arsenal :
these are the teams above us in the most valuable football clubs
21 May 2012 21:26:07
Ive got a bad feeling that FSG are gonna be reli boring and hire martinez
21 May 2012 21:26:04
macca
i noticed you was offering to pay another poster their money back they put on klopp just to let you know i stuck my last million on it is there any chance you could re pay mine ill send you the bank details if you could have it to me by friday that would be great as the man from the provident is due and the window cleaner has been badgering me since you posted about klopp
ps keep up the posts mate first thing i check when i come on
giblet
Please say you actually understood his joke?
21 May 2012 21:16:20
Please post as mine never get posted,are any clubs after mavuba and eds do you think he would fit in as Lucas back up
21 May 2012 21:25:33
I don't care who the new manager is, as long as Txiki Begiristain is brought in as DoF or a similar role. I think he'd help appoint the right man for the job and help pull talented players our way.
21 May 2012 21:21:45
Macca, this ones for you buddy, do you think villa boas will get the job? Personally I think he would do a good job, and secondly do you expect the owners to back the new manager or will we have to sell players in order to buy? I reall hope that we sign some proven players that are going to improve us now instead of buying youngsters for the future I think we have all the youngsters we need for now.
Cheers
Des
What difference will AVB make if he won't be backed by funds to buy the quality palyers we need. We could get Mourinho tomorrow and still he won't make a difference. Can't you see how Chelsea and City have win the major trophies. Do you really expect AVB to tale LFC to top four without serious investment. FSG don't have the resources...full-stop.
Why do you think he will do a good job? We're you in nick for 6 months from August last year to February? He made an absolute balls up of the Chelsea job. Don't go on about player power undermining him, as the players were obviously right and knew more than him, proven by an FA Cup and Champions League in the cabinet.
I honestly don't know what FSG are waiting for. Rafa is ready and waiting to hit the ground running. Yes, there are some risks but even more risks with some of the other candidates mentioned.
Put Rafa in charge, save the money on a DoF, as he doesn't need one, give him some decent money to spend and don't interfere. That's what FSG should do as some class players will be bought and success will follow.
redmersey
21 May 2012 21:14:25
If im honest i dont know why people want Rafa back at Liverpool, Yes he was a good manager, Won us trophies and got us places in the league where he haven't been since, But for Liverpool to move on we need a new manager, a new start and with in 2-3 Seasons with the backing from the owners maybe we can be the team we use to be, Challenging for Premier League....
If thats the case, why didnt we give KK at least another year? as far as im concerned fsg have now made their bed by sacking a legend/icon of the club for finishing 8th, anything other than a top 4 finish next season from here onwards is just unacceptable
ls7
21 May 2012 21:13:27
Fed up of reading that AVB will be announced in morning or Capello at the end of the week. I do not want either of these my preference would be Martinez or LAUDRUP. I cannot see why everyone is shouting for benitez back. Was he not the same manager who tried to sell alonso so we could sign Barry. No wonder Alonso left. No a fresh Young manager with a fresh outlook is what we need. Everyone goes on about experience and pressure. David Moyes didnot have a lot when he took over at Everton and look at the job he done with them with no money. We had experience In Roy Hodgso and we nearly ended up playing championship football had he been left any longer. I am Sorry to see Kenny go and would have loved him to have been given another season. But he has gone we must move on and forward and not be looking to a man who good get England to the quarter finals of a world cup
Cumbrian Red
Someone who sees sense!
Sir eggbut nobacon
Wasn't he also the manager who brought Alonso, Pepe, Masch, Torres ?
I am totally up for an AVB or Martinez if thats what they decide and will back that manager 100% even if not my choice, But i can see if they loose a couple of games then out come the knives again . If we go to the younger manager then we need patience , if we need a quick fix then go for a Capello type manager then re asses in 2 /3 years time . YNWA
Guinnessred8
21 May 2012 21:12:10
FSG are ripping the club apart. First sacking King Kenny Dalglish and now it looks like Suarez is going I don't believe it
Kenny spent 100 million plus and got our worst points total ever in the prem league and 8th ,Suarez is still a Liverpool player,grow up. I swear its like a kids playground on ere sonetimes
Grow up
Speeds
21 May 2012 21:11:10
macca, do you know at all what steve clarke will be doin next season? i would realy hope he stays on, i know managers that come tend too choose there own coaches, its just skrtel and agger have been quality this season and i think that has alot to do with clarke.do u know anything at all, what do the players feal?
cheers mate
harry h
21 May 2012 21:11:01
Fellow Reds judge the new manager by his results with us and not on previous results even a proven track may find it difficult to start with.
21 May 2012 21:08:20
anyone know if carra has any coaching badges or that if he needs them to be an assistant coach? avb with carra assistant ( would control the dressing room if required! ) would be my realistic choice.
jg
Last I remember reading, he had a UEFA B license and was considering going for an A.
The problem in the dressing room is that Carragher and Gerrard have control, not the manager!
Steve
21 May 2012 21:00:41
Daniel Hanwell where is that announcement regarding AVB being appointed manager, or was that a guess just like the rest of your rumours?
Why are you guys picking out one guy with an imagination and hanging him out to dry?
I could name and 'troll' a lot of delusional peeps all day long - but he's a Liverpool fan, so he's one of us you numpties..
Not very constructive, but I guess that's Liverpool to a 't' right now......
Lee YNWA
My understanding is it will be done this week.
Regards,
Daniel Hanwell
Lee I kinda know what you mean but this guy is a serial bulls**tter. Do we really need it?
This "one guy" has been bulls**ing throughout the year. Being a Liverpool fan doesn't justify it.
Raise an eyebrow, tut and move on.
Each to their own.
Never been a pessimist, but I'm pretty uneasy with our current standing. Just hope I'm blown away with FSG's statement of intent this summer :/
Lee YNWA
Honestly kids, without contributors such as daniel, whether his claims be true or false, you would have nothing to read at three in the morning so until we actually find out what is happening pipe down
21 May 2012 21:00:21
Eds I was just wondering why u let so much utter bollox get through to the main page? Is it to make us laugh at the amount of clowns we have for fans? Haha. Shabba! Clarkchenko7
Clarke i will be back on the LFC forum tommorow lad. my phone is KIA
JLFC
21 May 2012 20:53:17
to the best of my knowledge no manager who has ruled himself out has been offically been approached!are all these managers just commenting on paper gossip?if so should the club come out an make it public that these managers are doing some self promotion because this is all damaging are club all over the world.if the club is allowing this to happern is thier a reason for this?maybe the club is trying to strenthen thier negotation with someone?maybe someone who wants total control and doesnt want to work with a director of football which would explane why we still havent got a director of football!to many questions for are owners an no answers!please fsg show some leadership!
deano mcc
21 May 2012 20:52:28
Just repeating what some one else has pointed out ! Are fsg all what we think ....
Seems like the old americans same old we will get a new manager with no ambition like the club we will be mid table we will appoint a manager with not enough time to bring players in to the squad rick parry was sacked for that reason
21 May 2012 20:49:41
Out of curiosity does anyone know how old Rodolfo Borrell is? Would he fit into FSG's criteria? I'd certainly like to see him being a candidate.
Amz
21 May 2012 20:46:31
I'm hoping Fenway go 4 rijkard, he hasn't had much of a mention on here & other blogs.
He turned barca around & set them on their way to the team they r today, barca were in a similar position to how we find ourselves.
Currently coaching the Saudis whilst the money will b good where is the challenge n his talents off the football radar. I also bet he has a get out clause if a big club comes in.
Jimbob
I used to think riykaard was a top coach, but if you take his successes at barca away, his track record is not very good. Yes his barca team was excellent but the players he inherited were special!
21 May 2012 20:40:03
Just a quick point to everyone.
Some people are complaining about lack of info; do you want the owners to come out and say, we are going to interview x, y and z. No, that would be unprofessional.
Secondly, some people ssy it is taking too long. Would you want them to rush and get it wrong? No
Some people say that the owners should have already lined somebody up? How disgraceful would it be that there would be a new manager in place, before KK was even sacked. Very. They did the right thing.
Finally, some people are already saying that manager x, y and z should be sacked, already. We heard about Martinez, and about 90% of people who posted were like ''o, what idoit's, i'm going to support citeh now''.
Calm down, be patient.
The owners will do the best for the club, if only just to make some money. They will want the club to do well.
To finish, ask yourself. Does it really matter if you don't like the new manager. Does it matter if you don't like player x. No. I don't like G Johnson. He frustrates me, he wastes possession, and can't defend. SO. I will still support him, whatever. I will support LFC, the manager, and the players, whoever they are. SO SHOULD YOU. Some of you wonder why they complain they are under pressure. It's because of you vegetables (not all of you). The keyboard warriors who try to kill ed's and Macca alike. Support the club through thick and thin, whether you agree or not with decisions, whether you like a player or not. And if you cannot do that, well, Citeh isn't far away.
Sorry for the rant - but I though it had to be done.
Looking forward to your comments,
Burnsy
Totally agree mate..
Totally agree mate,the sooner we all chill out the better and get back to supporting our club!!!!!!!!!!!
Good post Burnsy.
AG
21 May 2012 20:39:24
"If you always look backwards you will eventually fall when you go forward", new manager with fresh ideas, thats what we want, if its AVB, Martinez, Rodgers, Laudrup(for me), then so be it, I know some fans/supporters/critics of the club are never gonna be happy but we have to trust the owners & believe in what they are doing.
CM68
21 May 2012 20:25:13
Hi ed's not a manager question, be boring really, but have the away and 3rd kits been released yet? Have u any links to any sites with the images of them, if not, what date? Thanks a lot! Eds and macca u do a brill job, ignore the t*ss pots! DHH L20 Kopite! Y..N..W..A jft96! {Ed001's Note - not yet, the 2nd will be released soon after the June 1st, for pre-order, then the 3rd just after the 2nd is out on general sale. Just long enough for each kit to sell before the next one is announced.}
21 May 2012 20:23:55
ed any chance you know anything about Bielsas situation at Athletic...is he likely to stay or go and if so who to/would LFC have a chance? Cheers ed JF LFC {Ed001's Note - he is likely to stay, unfortunately for me.}
21 May 2012 19:51:12
eds do you think rafa would take the job without full control? i think he would, he adores this club {Ed001's Note - impossible to say, but it is unlikely he could help but want control, it is the type of person he is.}
21 May 2012 19:30:25
Ed why do Liverpool want a young manger? Wouldn't it be a risk to do so? {Ed001's Note - every manager is a risk.}
Because they want a yes man one who does who as he is told.
21 May 2012 20:38:31
It's worrying how many people want Benitez back. I can't help thinking we'll be hearing 'Rafa' chants from the Kop if the appointed manager doesn't start too well.
We are Liverpool. Get behind whoever it is! Balls to the media, they are, and always will be, Anti-Liverpool. Oh, and ignore twitter!
Thanks to the Eds, and Macca for the daily nonsense!
T
21 May 2012 20:35:22
Ed...would you agree to bringing in Sam Allardyce. I mean with a low budget, mediocre playing squad, a declining fan base, an old stadium that looks its age, sud-standard facilities for supporters...surely he's the ideal manager for a club that's destined to be out of the title race by end of September...what's your take on this please...I'm being serious.
Your obviously drunk/stoned or you have banged your head........CM68
I hit the disagree button 57 times but sadly it only registered once.
Big Sam is nothing but a tosser whom I don't want to see anywhere near Liverpool. If that's the best we can do we may forget it and just close the club down.
Don't spout rubbish....big Sam, Worse shout ever!!
I can't believe people are ACTUALLY taking this guy seriously lmao
When Big Sam is getting interviewed on the telly; his head fills the whole screen and I've got a 46" telly:):) My grandson calls him "Telly Head!"
kidmillions
21 May 2012 20:35:15
I really really hope macca is wrong about Rodgers he wasn't too good at Reading and kinda inherited a Swansea team which Martinez had already put in the foundations! I just don't see why the owners would be going all out for him! If I had to pick from the 3 favourites AVB, Rodgers or Martinez it would be AVB all day long! DubRed
Dub red mate agree with you why not go for martinez he did all the ground work rodgers inherited the team dont want either to be honest or avb ed001 had the best suggestion borrell over any ofthsoe three if we cant attract beisla or klopp hope someone suggests it to fsg or who ever is pulling the strings
giblet
21 May 2012 20:35:03
hello edds just to say mate i think people need to stop throwing all these players names in the hat i think we all need to wait till the new manager is anounced because who ever gets the job probley wont want the targets daglish wanted he will have is own ideas an his own players in mind so am just gona wait now to see who gets the job what do you think
21 May 2012 20:30:06
I read this article a while back. I think its a good read and I hope you enjoy it.
" THE Liverpool Way can be regarded in the modern age of Sky Sports and social media madness as somewhat of a noose around this great clubs neck, strangling it to its very core.
An engaging media that has no time for such "Liverpool Ways", wanting instant retribution for any ill-advised activities.
The blame culture where social conscience leads the baying pack toward its prey devouring "The Liverpool Way". Some believe that it was built on an ingredient of success and an insurmountable amount of glory, where the masses jumped in with both feet hoping that the silver prizes would rub off on them, forgetful that Bill Shankly would go trophyless from 1966 through to 1972 "The Liverpool Way" has not always been about winning, more about the conducting of one's self on and off the football field.
Transfer targets would only become known to the masses upon entering the famous halls and corridors of Anfield. Secrecy would be a byword of "The Liverpool Way" the crown jewel would be its fans, supporters pack-like with a tribalism like nothing before, astonishing people fighting its corner. The Liverpool Way would not just be about football, through the 1970's and 80's it would be a home for the masses of unemployed, people disenfranchised through Margaret Thatcher's years in office, a Community Centre, a church to come and pay homage, their very own place of worship, they would kneel and pray toward Gods with feet of clay.
The Liverpool Dockers strike would be the longest in British industrial relations history, supported by "The Liverpool Way" with Robbie Fowler wearing a supporting T-shirt which would be revealed during a goal scoring celebration. Hillsborough and its justice campaign for innocent supporters, innocent children lost to a stadium disaster, would run red-hot through the very veins of this club, everyone to a man or woman would fight like they had been a parent to those 96 that perished from that day. "The Liverpool Way" would make sure they would not be forgotten, they would not allow them to be lied about, they would boycott The Sun whose lies would harm so many. The Liverpool Way would be to seek justice and the truth. Hillsborough would be entrenched in the thoughts and minds of every Liverpool fan, and subsequently educating new followers of their responsibility to seek justice.
Tasked with this impossible assignment, Kenny Dalglish like others before him has been found wanting, an institute well practised with keeping cards very close to its liver bird chest, where in-house would mean exactly that. A Cosa Nostra with its very own values and rituals, where fans would have to take a code of silence, brothers in red arms with family secrets that would be forever clandestine. Its first Godfather Shankly would give it his own brand of meaningfulness:
"Well the Kop's exclusive. The Spion Kop at Liverpool is an institution. And if you are a member of the Kop you feel as if you are a member of a big society where you've got thousands of friends all roundabout you. And they're united and loyal."
Its ingredient would be more Fanny Craddick than today's less tasty if more modern Jamie Oliver, an unquestionable loyalty in a theatre of atmospheric greatness, where scarves would be raised above heads full of footballing integrity with a dash of knowledge, supportive to its very bone. With songs to sing with words that others would steal for themselves, loud and boisterous would be added to the dish, slices of belligerence roasted with its very own humour, a side dish of humility.
The Liverpool Way would be an honest way, where truth could and would be accepted, passion would not get in its way. This banquet however would become far less palatable, but some would keep the appetite for this new dish and consume with the same intensity whilst unaware the ingredient had now changed, a modernistic plate, with its integrity questioned its former ways challenged once lauded and extolled, would now be abused and accused leading to a new Liverpool Way. Strangulation of Liverpool Football Club would come with an inability to react to the modern way, it would have to battle with its demons, the veracity of its history, acceptance of its part played on 29th May 1985 in the deaths of 39 football fans as bitter as any feast it had been fed. The Liverpool Way was to protect and fight its own corner, but it would not win this battle, the modern fan may well try to defend the indefensible, believing in some small way they are protecting the club, they are not, they are furthering its unacceptable face, intolerable in its stance. Wearing t-shirts supporting sacked dock workers would be replaced with those pertaining association with an alleged racist, this would not help the modern Liverpool way, and it would become all to consuming for the modern fan, believing defence with all-out attack was an appropriate recipe. Where once they could hold their own court the avalanche of media driven rhetoric would need feeding more regularly; than owners, managers and players were used to, and negativity thrust upon this once great institution had begun to make inroads, divided it would be conquered.
Fans had found an insatiable appetite for what they perceived was their right to a once given success, a hunger they cannot stomach, replaced realism with dreams of grandeur above its station, patience thin to its hub. How "The Liverpool Way" had manifested itself into the modern church-goer whom no longer just came to pay homage, a wanting of satisfaction from its demigods, an expectation of excellence from those who would fail to deliver. The Liverpool way would become just a distant memory talked about and regaled in moments of reflection. I was raised on the diet that was "The Liverpool Way" an innate sense of what was right, a footballing paradise, where pass and move were watch words, recognition from eyes that would behold this spectacle; our way. When our castle on the rare occasion was penetrated we would applaud our conquerors with a gratitude that only our way knew. Defeat would not be met with rounding on heroes and custodians of our institution. We would sing "You'll never walk alone" and we would mean it, frivolous and erratic support would be for others, it would not be "The Liverpool Way" Its history will not be decided from within Anfield but more from outside, its fans, the media driven vitriol and Mr. General Public who will decide to believe headlines over content, where social media rage replaces sensible dialogue, my fear is its epitaph is written.
R.I.P. "The Liverpool Way"
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
Ps. Sorry for pasting.
21 May 2012 20:29:13
I am starting to doubt FSG. Do they actually have money!
No matter whoever comes if we fail qualify for UCL next season I fear for my club.
If they really wants UCL then no choice spend big at least for one time, bcaz getting Top 4 is very very difficult.
If we fail to qualify for UCL I doubt top players would b hanging around much longer. And we would be very much troubled financially.
Watching the situation unfolds: Hoping for the best.
Bosco
Come on mate, FSG have put in over 120 million into the club for players, we missed so many chances this season, a couple more players in this coming season including a striker who will net 20 goals in the prem and we are top 4 again :)
Biggest problem will be to keep hold of our better players.
Go and do some research
NO - FSG did not put £120 million in for players. We may have spent that much but £50 was from Torres, £9 million from Babel, £12 million from Merieles and a few more million from other lesser players transferred. If you want to be precise, this was more Hicks and Gillet's money.
We're actually still waiting for FSG to put their hands in their pockets for players and now would be a good time to do so. Please don't go on about how they have paid off the debt and saved us from administration. If it wasn't them, someone else would have bought us. They actually got the club dirt cheap and it is already worth more. Also, the wage bill has been dramatically reduced so, I say again, let's see the colour of your money and prove you're not just another bunch of money grabbing Yanks.
redmersey
21 May 2012 20:27:57
Poor old Paul Tompkins got it in the neck on Twitter eh ?
Off Liverpool fans too !
Sad..
The Real KB
21 May 2012 20:25:37
Look everyone i know my info sounds incorrect but i will keep posting what i get told just to keep you all in the loop..
Look i have 3 sources
1 The players
2 Boardlevel within the club..
3 A former player who works on sky..
As soon as i get info i will post it..
I still believe we should not be to negative just yet..
Cheers
Macca
_________________
No need to hint at your sources Macca, if people dont believe you or the Eds for info. Its obvious you guys are much more in the know than us regular "poster". So take no notice and keep it up lads and ladette " Ed002". The majority of us do appreciate the level of info so take no notice of the doubter...............
JIm22
Hey Macca i think most of the liverpool fans on here wait to hear what you have to say and appriciate it when you do post. As for the do*uche bags that snipe at ya can firmly walk alone. As for you Macca You'll never walk alone
LeeWils
We all come to this sight for 1 reason and that is the info macca and the eds share with us and if they choose 2 slate u for it they are on the wrong site end ov!!
YNWA manc
Keep up the good work macca don't explain yourself to us lot m8 understand things change in a heartbeat in football YNWA lfc linc
21 may 2012 20:25:36
rafa loves the club and anyone else can be a flop (a.v.b, martinez, descamps)
liverpool are 3 steps behind all the top 4 for spending & ground example, hazard (united) 80,000 stadium, marin (chelsea) planning on extending ground, podoski (arsenal) 60,000 stadium, man city will sign big players 60,000 ground
now liverpool, what can a fan be excited about we can even attract a championship manager (swansea manager) we don't no how to spend money carroll 35 million 4 goals nearly 10 million per goal its a joke.
Man citys ground does not hold 60000 it is only 47000 capacity only 2000 more than ours
Get a grip man lucky you don't make fortune cookies
21 May 2012 20:25:20
I found it very concerning listening to dave whealen speak to sky sports the other night and him saying there Was no one in the boardroom. Who the bloody he'll is representing us on match days by the sounds of it my Sunday league has more committee members at games than Liverpool do can't run a club from over the Atlantic.
Very very concerning and we wonder why no one wants to come to us!!!
Toad
I didn't hear the interview but I have listened to Dave W before and he is a very nice man but he doesn't half talk rubbish sometimes.
21 May 2012 20:20:14
Can I offer a little advise (take it or leave it), don't read the press, watch sky news or listen to talk sport. They are all WUM's there to be provocative so you read or listen to the rubbish they spout.
Relax what will be will be, we are LFC and we will rise again.
There is no magic wand which will instantly transform our great club, it will take time, patience and our club needs us now more than any other time in the past 20 years.
The owners are learning the football business, they are professional people who want the best for us and themselves, you cannot generate profit without being successful in any business. As long as they don't take all the profit when it start to roll in (which I am sure they won't) and there is reasonable investment every year in the squad that is all you can ask for. I may be wrong but my opinion is we are in good hands, we are not going to agree with all the decisions they make but they will make them with every intention of making us better.
The management situation needs careful thought, there are very few managers that strike gold at every club they manage, examples:
AVB, a genius this time last Year within 6 months he was the worst manager Chelsea had ever had.
Our very own Rafa at Inter
Ramos-Tottenham
Big Phil-Chelsea
I am sure things will be much clearer in 7 days and I know it is agony but reading the papers and listening to the radio or TV will just make you more anxious.
GGK
If fsg want to take us back to the top
then act like it,no more X FACTOR
AUDITIONS.
The problem is people tend to believe the drivle the press spout,redello
21 May 2012 20:19:12
paul dalglish is going on and on about Martinez, avb and rafa being the most realistic manager targets. I don't think hes right, but for me it shows how little everyone knows.
I'd never say our beloved macca is wrong, but fsg seem to be awfully quiet. If kenny knew da real stuff, he'd probably tell his son and he'd famewhore on twitter a bit. I don't think anyone except the owners and maybe people like Stevie g or Suarez know anything concrete.
I'd also like to say recent articles from 'the tomkins times' made me really calm about the topic.
Berlinred
21 May 2012 20:18:30
I have to agree with Macca. Some of the best memories I had was watching Liverpool under Rafa, especially the Champions League. Like some other posters said, those days we felt like we could beat anyone. Even if we were couple of goals down, we never gave up and came back to win the games countless of time. Those were really exciting times. I personally didn't think Rafa made us play really boring football. And I don't care what style of football we play as long as we score, our players give their best, have the spirit to come back from behind and become WINNERS! Whoever is the manager, hopefully he can bring that back.
Tekneek
21 May 2012 20:17:59
Can we get any news on this please?
http://img.ly/ioqs
Posted a couple of days ago by Xabi Alonso on his twitter :)
They've decided that they are madly in love with each other and are running away to join the circus.
Ash
21 May 2012 20:17:45
Lads,hows tricks...
Firstly,great site im on it every hour of the day,( im lucky to still have a girlfriend),
Im basically just posting this to remind everyone above all the hysteria and holabalou we need to support our team no matter what the out come may be....
Were a family of reds and our day will come again...have paitenence....YNWA lfc....
On another note AVB with us by the end of the week...
Jft 96
Love this post
billynwa
You should get rid of ya bird, then you'll have even more time for this site.
21 May 2012 20:17:26
Hi Macca just a quick question seen you know the lads how would gerard and caragher feel about the return of benetez i for one would hate to see him come back we must move onwards and upwords cheers and thanks for taking the time to read are questions.
21 May 2012 20:16:18
Personally think Laudrup should be top choice now. Plays great Attacking football and has a name to attract top stars.
Anybody agree?
Mark the Selby Red
21 May 2012 20:06:01
I'd like to see Rafa come back, and think Martinez and Laudrup would be interesting choices, but I'm starting to be convinced that Villas-Boas is going to get the job. The only serious contenders appear to be him and Martinez and all the papers are reporting that FSG want a young manager with title-winning experience. I think it would be a risky appointment in many ways; would he flake against Chelsea? Would he treat Gerrard like he treated Lampard? But then he has title-winning pedigree and is clearly a coach with great potential. At the very least I think that if AVB comes we may regain a touch of the popularity that we lost through Kenny's misinterpreted handling of the media, and the furore over the Suarez case. Villas Boas is a sympathetic figure at present, cruelly cast aside by the Chelsea revolving door and his efforts vindicated to some extent by Chelsea's cup double in a season during which he was the manager for the majority. We would regain also a touch of that continental flair that swept Merseyside during Rafa's reign, and he could potentially be a very useful manager for identifying top Spanish targets. So he would be an interesting appointment and it could go either way, but I would personally be surprised if Andre Villas Boas was not at the Liverpool helm next season.
Red Ollie
21 May 2012 20:00:31
Does anyone know if our new Stadium will have a banner reading "Made in China" or "Made by China" ?
Live-On-Pool
Both. .
21 May 2012 19:57:44
First time posting, think this is a great site for lverpool fans so keep up the good work :) just a few things to say on the current situation
I feel that whether the owners go with AVB, Roberto Martinez or whoever else is considered for the job, full support should be given to the new manager, FSG and the players as with full fan support and the right backing from the owners great things can be achieved for the football club we love in the near future.
We have a strong spine to our team which hopefully we can maintain for the future with Reina, Skrtel, Agger, Gerrard, Suarez and of course the returning Lucas (who will be like a new signing and is vital in my opinion). Andy Carroll and Jordan Henderson should be given more to develop as they had a good finish to the season and I feel we have other great prospects such as Sterling, Suso, Shelvey, Kelly, Robinson, etc. so the future is in good hands.
Cut the wage bill by removing the big earners who need to be moved on (Doni, Kuyt, Rodriguez, Cole, Aquilani), although Rodriguez was under utilised and Kuyt has been a great servant to the club).
A couple of signings to add to the squad we have and we could very well challenge for the top 4 next season. My thoughts on possible signings would be Iker Muniain, Adam Johnson, Rasmus Elm and Luuk de Jong as I feel are defence doesnt need strengthening and these 4 would add that much needed flair and attacking qualities we lacked and our realistic targets for a club with no Champions League football next season.
Thanks eds and Macca, the job you do is great and its much appreciated :)
I doubt we'd get muniain
21 May 2012 19:55:27
The reason they are all saying no is becuse they no they are not the only options and don't want to damage image with club they are already at it they go for interview and it's made public and Liverpool Reject it
if Rodgers knew it was him only etc he would jump at the chance
Still think Kenny deserved another year , as he took the brunt of everything as we had no in house chairman , racism lawyer , decent press officers and with a bit of look in some games we would have been much closer to 4th ( which is all the new owners really care about )
Rafa to strong minded for them , Martinez will accept whatever they say ( but to be fair if he get's it support him )
I'd Like Laudrup
K.O.B
21 May 2012 19:55:05
Banter please-
Here's the issue with regards to the timing of the sacking and the perceived inactivity/panicking by the board afterwards.
The board must have known for some time that they were going to sack Kenny. It may have hinged on the fa cup. BUT they should have made plans in advance. Managers should have been identified as targets. Background checks should have been done and agents could/should have been sounded out.
It's amateurish to sack a manager and then say 'we'll start looking for a replacement tomorrow'. Wolves did that and they ended up with promoting their inexperienced coach who took them down. It would never happen in any other multi-million pound business. A shortlist should already have been drawn up. Now we look like we're scratching around looking for names to make the numbers up.
If this was happening at old trafford we'd be in hysterics. One word for it - amateurish
As pointed out elsewhere by ALI -
If FSG had planned to replace Dalglish and went looking for a replacement whilst he was still boss - can you imagine if the media got wind of that? - FSG would be massacred for it.
There would have been uproar - I feel groups like the SOS may have sent more than a letter - I'd expect demonstrations - 'Yanks Out' signs - and a row over whether or not to keep Kenny between the fans - these would not be unrealistic prospects.
Imagine all of that - blown up by hype and headlines over the intrigue and infighting at LFC/ Dalglish stabbed in the back /LFC in turmoil etc - depending on the media angle.
And (to put it kindly) I don't think Kenny quite endeared himself to a lot of the press either. I wouldn't expect them to be gentle....
Imagine all of this going on whilst Kenny is still in the dugout.
Telling Kenny he's going at the end of the season whilst the season is still going hardly seems ideal for footballing reasons either - word of that isn't exactly going to motivate him or the players imo.
Thankfully, FSG are in charge and not you - and we have avoided this potential scenario of a 'civil war' between (sections of) the fans and owners at LFC - never mind what the players/staff would think of the instability.
This forum is mild compared to what it would be like if FSG had done what you suggest. Lord only knows..........
What you suggest is tantamount to PR armageddon imo.
BJH YNWA. (Any other ridiculous complaints?? Good lord.)
Original poster bang on.BJH in Fantasy mode-get real lad
Un-named poster.
Great argument there, well done.
BJH YNWA
21 May 2012 19:52:04
May sound odd but I have heard from my source (taps his nose) that FSG are not! repeat not! incompetent and are throwing up a huge smoke screen and that the appointment of Kevin Keegan with Neil Warnock as chief coach is to be announced on Monday. Director of Football is to not yet decided but they are attempting to find somone with a really silly long foreign name if not probably Peter Andre or Sir Leslie Philips. FSG have selected the management team by the system of Ballontronics which they copied from Bingo basically a hundred names of managers are written placed in plastic balls and rolled round in a large circular device and then picked out
The film "Ballyballs" was based around this system. Phil Neal is to be the new communications director and Suarez is staying but will leave as soon as he can propely prounounce "club not matching my ambition" . New signing are to be limited to under fives so they have sell on value to chimney cleaners and do not eat much
Naming rights are to be changed weekly
so something like Kwik Save Arena one week and Red rooster arena next, we will share the arena with the Millwall North franchise that FSG are in top secret talks with
Good times ahead I will come back with player info when ( taps nose) my source
voice comes through my Yucca plant again
I hope its phillips over andre andre has never managed at the top level and onl just escaped relegation in the australian league ever since he last his big pair up front
21 May 2012 19:48:11
manager walks through airport terminal................manager gets stopped by one of the worlds press whilst trying to go on end of season holidays..............manager gets asked if hes interested in LFC job.......manager says no hes happy where hes at (due to not wanting to upset club who is currently provider of his bread and butter)..............worlds press(sky sports news amongst others) report manager not interested in LFC managers job then also report its a farce as no-one wants it...........
Penny dropping yet people..........NOBODY in the press wants us anywhere near the top, their trying to make us look like a mid table club who no-one wants to manage when in reality everyone is either on holiday or seeing out the end of their current seasons etc..........
The media are worse than ever at making rubbish up its what they do in this day and age...........
The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96
At last some common sense is spoken
Think you're right, the amount of negative press we're getting is ridiculous.
"ITS THE ILLUMINATTI!" said ecclestone
No, it's Sir Patrick Moore on the sky sports news at night
Cuchulainn's Hounds
21 May 2012 19:40:53
What i cant understand is why sack kenny dalglish without knowing a ready made replacement it just shows they dint know who they want by offering interviews to the majority of europe snd 95% rejecting to speak. Do they actually have a clue fair enough sack kenny but make sure u know whos to replace him thry have no idea most clubs just chase the one guy not us we chase every manager. The reason most managers are choosing not to speak is they know there not necesarliy first choice as such, there wanting all these top managers in for an interview when there doing well in there own job if u want someone focus on them not for interviews like going to work for tesco. They know there not neccesarliy desperate for u to become boss. Managers like when a club wants you bad and soeaks to u only but this picking 10 to choose from isnt exactly respectful in my mind.. The whole things a mess sack kenny= habe a replacement ready clueless not just me that would have same opinion its comman sense
The intention, I'm sure, was to discuss with Kenny that we are replacing him when we were to have the scheduled meetings in England. Dalglish, however, flew across the ocean to move the dates up, because he wanted to get to work and it forced FSG's hand before they truly had time to search. Besides, it's literally been less than a week, quit crying like an infant.
McSnuggles
I have to say, they don't appear to be master strategists. They don't really even look a little bit good to me. Some would say it would have been disrespectful to look while kenny was in charge, but I'm sure that if they had told him to keep giving his all until a top replacement was found, he'd have done it. They might not have found one in the summer, maybe have to wait another season, but surely would have been better than this mess. I always try to be optimistic, but 'rudderless ship' comes to mind.
Nick.
Damn. Rejected by 95% of the majority of Europe.
In other words, you believe everything the press says.
The media reporting all managers getting approached doesn't mean it is happening although if it is it is a joke. if i were to sack a club legend then i would make damn sure i get the no.1 man for the job
derryred
21 May 2012 19:38:57
wonder if igor biscan fancies it?
If anyone can biscan
Bjorn tore kvarme number 2
He's making to much money from the BBC as Iggle Piggle on In The Night Garden
Redgib
21 May 2012 19:34:36
just wondering if rodgers has had 2nd thoughts he s into 5/1 now with the bookies
WHEN WILL PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THE ODDS AT THE BOOKIES ARE PURELY BASED ON INCREASED BETTING PATTERNS?!
The increased betting pattern could be for any reason - likely, several other people who get similar info to Macca all telling their friends Rodgers is the front runner, and everyone betting on it. Still strikes me as unlikely, but the manager we hire will probably never be an odds-on favorite with some ridiculously high odds.
McSnuggles
21 May 2012 19:32:58
Anybody here getting bored with all this ?
Give it to Rafa. One year, second year on results.
He would earn the second year, no problem.
Rafa is the man. Liverpool through and through.
I hope he makes it up with Pako Ayesteran.
Dynamic Duo !
21 May 2012 19:27:31
What i cant understand is why sack kenny dalglish without knowing a ready made replacement it just shows they dint know who they want by offering interviews to the majority of europe snd 95% rejecting to speak. Do they actually have a clue fair enough sack kenny but make sure u know whos to replace him thry have no idea most clubs just chase the one guy not us we chase every manager. The reason most managers are choosing not to speak is they know there not necesarliy first choice as such, there wanting all these top managers in for an interview when there doing well in there own job if u want someone focus on them not for interviews like going to work for tesco. They know there not neccesarliy desperate for u to become boss. Managers like when a club wants you bad and soeaks to u only but this picking 10 to choose from isnt exactly respectful in my mind.. The whole things a mess sack kenny= habe a replacement ready clueless not just me that would have same opinion its comman sense
21 May 2012 19:27:16
What about Redknapp? Jamie connection.. May fancy a change?
Gazman
Yeah - Old Jamie boy seems to like to giving us a good kicking every time he's on sly sports, so why not stitch us up good and proper by getting that good for nowt barrow boy dad of his in charge of us!
Nick
Would rather saw my leg off with a butter knife
Martin
Why not Jamie? Not Harry.
All it would take would fifty or sixty grand in a bank account in his dog,s name and he could be ours what are you waiting for fsg his dogs called spot get the money in there as soon as you can
21 May 2012 19:26:45
Hi Ed
Thinking on, on what macca said about Rodgers, when not watching Liverpool I have watched Swansea quite a lot as my brother in law has debenture seats through his company, the seats are just behind the dug out.
I have been very impressed with Swansea and the style of play, almost total football just without that cutting edge a big money striker brings.
More impressive is how Rodgers orchestrates the team from the touch line, no screaming not stress,but a cool calm collective manner, he is constantly giving his players advice and more importantly total encouragement for his players to play football and not hoof the ball.
I watched the game against Liverpool and was so impressed by the way he conducted himself, always demanding his players to pas pass pass. Swansea totally outplayed Liverpool and the Liverpool players and management Knew it. Hence that why I believe Dalglish also agrees with macca.
You never know how so called inexperienced managers will cope when going to a bigger club, however I do believe he has the temperament, football brain, and the skills to do a good job for a top 4 team.
Maybe its not a bad idea to give him a go, what do you think Eds
Evered
21 May 2012 19:25:24
I notice your in a bad mood ed01 would you like to talk about it? btw agree with you on rafa i respect the man and have met him once he seemed a really nice man but like you said he went downhill without paco also didn't he have a falling out with alot of the players and board members at the time? i heard that somewhere but don't know if its true cheers CRAIG {Ed001's Note - he fell out with a lot of people, including Pako. He was too busy playing politics and forgot to manage the team.}
Rafa wasnt too busy playing politics he was busy trying to save the club and not worrying about himself fact.
soul man
I think soul man is Rafa, he keeps talking about facts.
21 May 2012 19:25:20
Might be some legs in this Brendan Rodgers thing.............his price has disappeared down to 5/1 now.....I know i stated earlier how the betting is all over the place and no-one knows but after Maccas post its got me worried now the price has gone..........Sincerely hope not..........Surely they know we need an experienced manager to draw good players in........dont they?.....
The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96
Experienced like Kenny and Woy??
21 May 2012 19:21:45
It don't matter what anyone else thinks but me personaly i want fsg out. They seem intent on totaly destroying the club from the inside out. All the talk of cut backs and buying players with good resale value is starting to sound a bit dodgey to me. I can't see how they have taken us forward at all. New stadium or redevelope Anfield? well they have mentioned it a few times but nothing has happened has it? It's talk talk talk no action. The club is losing it's identity bit by bit by another bunch of Yanks that don't have a clue about this great club. PUT UP OR CLEAR OUT!!
21 May 2012 19:20:26
liverpool to sign drogba
ghg
21 May 2012 19:19:32
Luke Freeman from Stevenage to take Downing's place. Great news if it happens
21 May 2012 18:49:17
Eds and Macca, I've heard around the net that the owners might very well go back to Kenny and offer him another year if they can't find a suitable successor given that they have been rejected by all their desired prospects. How likely do you think this is? Is it even possible now? It would take a little humility but it may be the best option given their apparent desparate circumstances.
ocuinn
That actually made me laugh out loud.
Jud.
21 May 2012 18:46:14
Evening eds fellow reds , can't be many more managers that can turn us down is there .i personal think it will be dragged out then we will all disappointed .just feel the club is losing it way again here .any thought cheers psv
Stop reading things if can only see in black and white
Eric thread
21 May 2012 18:45:03
Eds/Macca,
Is there any particular reason why Rodgers does not seem to be interested in becoming our manager and rejecting our approach?
Is he just committed to Swansea or what?
Cheers,
Josh
It's simple. Rodgers will take the job IF he is formally offered it.
He does not want to come out and say he is willing to be interviewed as he will get a backlash from the fans in the same way Martinez did.
I believe his release clause is £5m from the contract he signed earlier this year, so won't be cheap, but if it's between Rodgers, AVB and Martinez, I'd take Rodgers.
As for those saying that it was Martinez that started the Swans playing the way they do, it was a decision between Martinez and the board to try and play that way which continued after he left.
Rodgers has however taken it to another level. Philosophy is simple-the opposition can't score if they don't have the ball. The problem is, whilst he has better players than Martinez, Swansea won't pay big wages with the highest earner on £10k week, so the question is, how far could he take it with better quality players?
Another point however is, will the bigger egos respect and believe in him and commit to the style of football he wants if he comes
to Anfield?
Evs the Red
21 May 2012 18:32:44
Hello eds,
I don't understand how can Rafa be in contention for the job when the owners, from what I hear, want a young, pespective manager? I believe that it's between AVB and Martinez as all others turned us down. And a quick question - when does this transfer window open and close? Can Liverpool sign now a player from EPL only or from all Europe? Does it close at the end of August? thanks for all your news and help. {Ed019's Note - Transfer window opens for English clubs on July 1, and ends at the end of August}
21 May 2012 18:25:26
ED, do you agree that AVB might want to come to get his reputation back in UK after is time at chelsea? Would be very happy with AVB being lfc's new manager. and is guardiola a definite no then? {Ed019's Note - I like the idea of AVB at Liverpool. Guardiola is almost certainly a no}
21 May 2012 17:41:59
Hey ed's....just a question....AS we donot have sufficient wingers will Sterling be given regular chances and starts next season??or is he leaving??and what about Toni Silva?? {Ed019's Note - Sterling is too young yet}
21 May 2012 16:56:51
Hi eds, updates on the managerial position? Also I know transfer targets go when managers go, but surely the scouts will inform the new manager about previous targets? :) {Ed019's Note - Nothing new}
21 May 2012 16:53:13
Hi Ed's.
Away from the managerial situation, do you:
A) Know anymore on an DofF?
B) Anything to do with an Air China stadium? Is it true?
Thanks very much Ed's
Burnsy {Ed019's Note - Nothing and No idea}
21 May 2012 19:18:21
It looks like its between AVB Martinez and rafa..who would you lot pick?
Van Gaal
Laudrup
AVB.
BJH YNWA
Rafa evey day of the week
soul man
Martinez
Some people can't see a priest on a mountain of sugar.
21 May 2012 19:13:10
what about luis garcia for the manager, not our ex player, the manager from getafe? eds any ideas
21 May 2012 19:13:05
FSG : My patience is at an end.
Put up or sell up !
No small men.
Benitez
Capello
or
Van Gaal.
It's make your mind up time.
Personally I would go for Benitez or Capello.
Benitez because he loves the club.
You can't just get a manager because he loves the club..
Or do you want us to sell our top players and buy some medioker players?
If yes then you should go for Rafa..
I promise that your ill-informed opinion on who is best suited to manage the club is much better than FSG's. And let's not forget that John Henry and co have put over 500 million dollars of their own money into this club, and they'll appoint who they see fit. IF you don't like it, nameless keyboarder, you should put up or sell up your so called "fan card" if none of those three get appointed!
McSnuggles
Awful choices.
Take a look at the clubs that just won the major leagues across Europe. Then look at their manager. That will give you a clue.
21 May 2012 19:09:31
After feeding in today's assorted press stories the updated is as follows:-
STILL POSSIBLE
Allegri, Benitez, Capello, Ancellotti, Nicol, Laudrup, Bielsa, Klinsman, Villas-Boas, Martinez, Rijkard, Pardew.
RULED OUT
Kean, Rodgers, Klopp, Guardiola, Mourinho, Lambert, Redknapp, O'Neill, de Boer, Deschamps.
When the f was Kean even an option?
Allegri, Ancelotti, Bielsa, Rijkard, Pardew won't come. Take Nicol off that list as well. Seriously?
21 May 2012 19:04:27
Liverpool are 7th most valuable football brand in Europe (€288.5m). Increase of value - 47%. In 2011- 9th. Progress. [via Brand Finance]
I read that and its poor reading for lfc.i would suggest lfc where prob close to the top of that list 20-25yrs ago.chelsea and especially arsenal who never took branding and merchantising seriously until quite recently are now above lfc on that list,the long slow slide down the greasey pole
21 May 2012 19:04:20
Beware the yanks just as bad as the last lot full of empty promises avb will be the next boss was lined up before king kenny
If they have AVB lined up, how is that a bad thing!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Quality manager.
McSnuggles
21 May 2012 19:01:31
Apparently Deschamps have ruled us out too according to ...looks like Martinez, Rafa, or AVB it is then
-Melwood Janitor
21 May 2012 15:36:27
Ed's have the been any movement on the DOF position? Are we looking at appointing the DOF first or first the manager then the DOF? {Ed001's Note - seems we are looking for a manager first.}
21 May 2012 19:00:32
{Ed001's Note - I really do not understand why Borrell is not at the forefront of the possibles. I hope that the very public interview process is purely to show that they have looked before deciding he is the best candidate for the job. But I have a feeling that they have, very wrongly in my opinion, completely overlooked him. I think he is probably the best option out there, right now, I just don't see any reason to appoint someone like Martinez or Rodgers over him.}
Would you not want to keep him in the Academy Ed001?
I thought he's the best out there at bringing through Academy players?
Also, does he have experience as a first team manager?
Cheers,
Stone YNWA. {Ed001's Note - he is fantastic for the Academy, but he is a great coach, which is what we need for the first team far more than the kids right now. We have others to run the Academy.}
I vote ed16, but that's just me.
AnfieldUSA
Totally agree Ed001mate. I was saying when you were away that Tixki and Rodolfo could be a perfect combination, if Kenny got sacked. Even if Kenny stayed I thought Rodolfo should at least be promoted to the 1st team. I'm amazed that FSG havn't looked at this option. Then have Segura as DOF, if Tixki didn't want it.
Our owners are looking far and wide, for a DOF and manager. When the solution to this mess, could be already at this club.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
For me rafa as manager burrell as his assistant sorted
soul man
21 May 2012 19:00:15
i always like to read the rubbish some people post on here, soo funny!
so many people in the "know", claiming to have contacts!
if all the so called experts know so much, they should be down the bookies raking it in! i dont think so!
anyway, dont want Rafa, dont want Martinez!
AVB is getting lots of coverage at the mo, i think he would be my choice.
if suarez wants to go, let him! just hope all money raised will go into transfer pot!
these are my opinions because we cant all "work at Anfield" or "know someone at the club"!! lol
one last question.... unless you are very close to the owners, how can anyone have such credible info?
21 May 2012 18:58:21
This is dragging on far too long & we are becoming a laughing stock
No it's not
Is it f**k it's not even been a week, the seasons over, there's no great rush, all get a grip , what will be will be, it's out of our hands. I'm sure they will get it right, and whoever they pick we need to back to the hills
Paul the red
21 May 2012 18:51:34
Something fishy about the way all these mangers are turning us down. I think Fenway have there 2 or 3 candidates who they really want, but are just playing out this circus for a good reason.
Keep the faith people.. All is not what it seems!
Mark
I think you have a point. Something quite not right with everything being so public. You would think some of these managers would be sounded out by 3rd party agents before any sort of official approach was made at risk of being made look silly
If only but i just think we are getting turned down as we are not the club we once was!
Mate it was all decided before Kenny got sacked. It's a pr stunt so as to make out his successor was not being tapped up even as he was still leading us out at Wembley. Ditto new board members. Just hope they have chosen well.
21 May 2012 18:44:24
So this is my understanding of what has happened since Kenny left on the 16th May. I've also put dates as when the managers have been approached...
Managers approached, and who want to speak with LFC:
Roberto Martinez (17th May)
Rafael Benitez (18th May)
Michael Laudrup (19th May)
Managers approached, and don't want to speak:
Brendan Rodgers (18th May)
Jurgen Klopp (18th May)
Pep Guardiola (19th May)
Frank De Boer (21st May - today)
Managers likely to be approached, and may want to speak with LFC:
Andre Villas-Boas
Didier Deschamps
Managers likely to be approached, but likely to not want to speak:
Louis Van Gaal
Fabio Capello
So unless others can be convinced, its likely to end up as a 5 man list: Martinez, Rafa, Laudrup, and possibly AVB and Deschamps.
For some reason, I feel Rafa won't get asked for an interview, he is more of a fall-back option for these owners. And because Deschamps said no 2 years ago, I think that may still be an issue.
IMO, the most attractive, most risky, most interesting, and best manager to go with would be Laudrup. He was an amazing player and he really likes the club, and I feel he would be an exciting and excellent choice. Hope this happens.
RedChris
Helpful Post
Oh yeah. Appoint him because he likes the Club. Good one.
21 May 2012 18:42:05
for me rafa should not get the job ,for a couple of reasons really , but the main one is a manager should never go back , look at what happend to kenny , and if the results went against him then the fans who dont like him would be right on his back , plus no matter were he has been he would start trouble with in the club again so he would get sacked because our owners are no fools and have shown how ruthless they are , there has to be some one out there who will take us to the next level , AVB as not turned us down maybe he wants guarantees this time so he does not get the sack within a few months , he learned his trade under the special one and with porto , he was unbeaten , with 27 wins and 3 draws in the league , so he cant be that bad of a manager , but the sooner we get someone the better because we can then go out and buy some decent players,,,,,,,,mickey b
So you wouldnt have re-bought bellamy?
21 May 2012 18:40:56
Noticed lots of posters on here not happy If Martinez was to gets the job? Which I think he will.
Then we have to support him. Managing a club like Wigan is a good experience for a young Manager? You have start somewhere and then grab your big chance with both hands and make your name? That's how it happens. No one is born into the job, you grow into it just like all great Managers have. Who on here would of given the Newcastle job to Pardew? Not many methinks.
Martinez is a really good Manager that could become a great one? That's the gamble? And we should take it. He's young ambitious and he's also proved he can set up a team to beat the big guns in the Premier league playing the right brand of football (sends his teams out to play with no fear) and that he's got an eye for a player and is also excellent at dealing with the media. What more do we want?
kidmillions
Good post, I don't want him personally as I feel it is a big risk at the moment, but I certaintly wouldn't spit my dummy out, Wigan play good quick football, he hasn't spent too much either and Wigan are favourites to go down every year, I have seen people on here saying on here "no thanks he only has a 29% win ratio" what do you expect he manages Wigan !
G BOX
Where did Shankly come from? Who thought Paisley would be successful. Give the guy a chance. His teams play good footy.
Iggypop
Im from wigan and work with a fella who's son is a goalkeeper at wigan youth, And he told me soon as martinez took charge first thing he did as wigan manager is change the way of football the youth was playing where they play from the back keep the ball and attack (barcelona style) and towards the end of the season thats how wigan started to play and it was really good to watch and they got results i think he could be a diamond in the rough for us if we are supportive and give him time.
ACHILLES.
I have to agree with you on martinez , he may not be a big name but all these big named managers started off with a little club , he knows how the prem works and he does have an eye for a player , you see all you rafa fans , rafa is not the only one who can pick good players , the style he has his players playing is a good one and maybe with better players and a bigger club he could turn into a little gem , he has survived in the prem for a few seasons and no disrespect to wigan , they have not spent millions on one player , i still cant get my head around 20 mil for downing , i would not be dissapointed if he did become our manager and i would back him all the way , he does have something about him in everything he does
Martinez would be my choice also , and I believe he has the potential to become a top manager ,we should go for him .
redforever
21 May 2012 18:34:53
Deschamps' expects to remain at Marseille next season. Personally I think we'll see Martinez as manager next season.
Hans
21 May 2012 18:26:37
Eds, why are people having a go at the owners for not buying better players and for not spending enough money on players? KK admitted he decided on the players brought when DC left, KK said he was happy with the squad in January. Im sure we could have got better players for the 20mil we spent on Downing or 15mil on Henderson.
Also they are complaining on the net spend, but out of the players we sold who would have made a difference to the team maybe other than Meireles.
I am starting to wonder if that was the reason DC was sacked, maybe the owners found just how much the players were worth?
SA
Spot on , everyone else in the world is getting blamed for kennys sacking accept kenny himself , all football club set targets for the club to achieve maybe a cup win or finishing 4th or the likes of man city and man utd , to finish 1st ,thats why the managers get such amount to spend , in kennys case he and the owners agreed to get 4th , thats why he was allowed to spend so much on poor players like downing , if we sell him now we would get about 8 mil , but the fact we never got 4th after spending stupid amounts of money on downing , carrol , and henderson , just imagine who we could have got for 20 mil in europe , the same goes for the 35 mil and 16 mil , ok carrol and henderson are young but you pay them amounts of millions for the finished player not potential wich might not come , so they will be sold at a massive loss , and i remember the owners wanting to buy young players with lots of potential who if need be they could sell at a profit wich would go back into the club , i cant see no profit on carrol , hederson and downing ,
Don't get me wrong Kenny will always be a legend to me, I have supported LFC since I was a kid in the early 80's and I will always admire him. But you can't throw blame at the owners, they gave Kenny the money to spend, he and DC chose the players.
SA
As it happened 4th wasn't good enough anyway. The bar has been raised since Chelsea won the CL. To be gauranteed CL football 3rd is a must.
Bobbinred
21 May 2012 18:22:44
Ed's post my comment trying to give an overall update on the manager selection
List of potential Managers from what I can gather:
Frank de Boer
AVB
pepe guardiola
jose mourinho
brendan rogers
Roberto Martinez
Didier Deschamp
Jurgen Klopp
Fabio Capello
Rene Girard
rafa benitez
Michael Laudrup
Bert van Marwijk
From that list based on press reports these are the ones that haven't publically officially said no. And yes I know that Mourino and Pepe are on the list but just posting based on list vs official no's
Didier Deschamp
Fabio Capello
Rene Girard
rafa benitez
AVB
pepe guardiola
jose mourinho
Roberto Martinez
Michael Laudrup
Based on the list of people who haven't said no I think we are realistically looking at
Didier Deschamp
Rene Girard
rafa benitez
AVB
Roberto Martinez
Michael Laudrup
21 May 2012 18:19:02
Do we have any concrete news on Lucas Leiva? Hoping that his rehab is going well, I think that he will be a key part of any new managers plans, especially as some of our more senior players start to play less matches. I feel that Shelvey and Spearing are prob still a little raw, and have a tendency to clatter in.
21 May 2012 18:17:06
Owen coyle Was doing a fantastic job at Bolton ant many were singing his praises.
Many suggested and wanted him to replace Raffa but at the time we wanted Hodgson.
We're is Bolton now? My opinion will be different than yours but I just can't help but think 'is Martinez and Rodgers in the same bracket'?.
We should wait till after the Euros? If England win it? Well then simple? Let's get Woy back:):):):)
kidmillions
No.
Sir eggbut nobacon
Completely agree mate, I think Rodgers is hugely untested, he wasn't even that good in the Championship before Swansea. And Martinez has got some potential looking at Wigan's playing style, but a test at a club such as Villa or Everton would be more appropriate before a step up to a higher level such as Liverpool.
Red Ollie
21 May 2012 18:16:06
Apparently there are/were 10 contenders for the managers job, in no particular order they must be:
1) De Boer (ruled himself out)
2) Klopp (ruled himself out)
3) AVB
4) Capello (to old)
5) Rodgers (ruled himself out)
6) Martinez
7) Benitez
8) Mourinho (would never come)
9) Guardiola (ruled himself out)
10) Emery (gone elsewhere)
So that leaves just 3! I reckon AVB will rule himself out shortly in favour of Roma which leaves 2, take your pick folks no 6 or 7?
7 all day long no contest
How about Laudrup with txiki as dof?
SideShowBob
I would go for nr 11, Laudrup.
I still dont think Benitez but would have him over martinez i think
You forgot laudrup
21 May 2012 18:13:20
As light relief from the manager situation...I heard on Five Live this morning that there were only around 80,000 people on the streets of West London for Chelsea's victory parade. Compare this with over a million fans on the streets of Liverpool after our victory in 2005. I know, there is no comparison!
Yes, but in that there London there are lots of teams compared to Liverpool, which only has two teams Liverpool fc and liverpool fc reserves.
KNEE JERK
21 May 2012 18:03:12
any chance of signing daniel sturridge ? as he is hinting at a leave from chelsea due to his poor amount of playing time under di matteo
He's not good enough.
kidmillions
He is an incredibly selfish player. Less pass and move and more hold on to the ball and move. -McMenemy
Too greedy wants to make a name for himself not the club.
21 May 2012 18:01:23
We've been rejected by Deschamps now...
Will we ever get a good manager in?
Can't believe no one has the balls to manage Downing, Spearing, Adam and Carroll and get the best out of them :(
Red PG
It's the media again ---- This is the truth...
"...when quizzed on his immediate future Deschamps was certain he was going nowhere.
"It is expected that I will be there [Marseille] next season," he told French journalists.
"When it goes badly, there is need to recharge. I will leave on vacation but it is expected that I be there [Marseille] for July 2."
So, where does it say - I reject Liverpool! Teh media have it in for the club at the moment - ignore the twerps!
Good manager? He finished TENTH in a weak French league!
Mad as miereles hair cut lol
21 May 2012 17:53:51
Why are so many of you on about "What's taking so long?"... It's been what, a week? There's a lot of stuff to go through when they interview including thorough background checks amongst other things for each candidate, and when Kenny left I'm sure we started getting calls from any manager who thinks himself a decent one trying to snag an interview. It's a lot of stuff to do, and I'd rather get the right man at the right time than the wrong man because we want him NOW.
Besides, the transfer window hasn't even opened for the rest of the continent yet, right?
McSnuggles
Spot on: I've rang every day since Kenny left, emailed my cv and posted a paper copy. Now I'm a genuine applicant but they must be dealing with 100s if not 1000s of applicants with absolutely no chance of getting the job.
kidmillions
True but one by one seemingly better candidates ruling themselves out
Kidmillions with a name like that you stand a good chance,as its all about the money money money ker-ching
21 May 2012 17:52:36
why hasn't Carragher been given a shout on the manager front. He's worked under so many good managers at Liverpool and England and he can't be more of a risk than Martinez or AVB. End of the need we need someone to do the training and pick the team sheet..
Does he have his coaching badges?
ACHILLES.
Why would AVB be a risk before you talk silly look at his record in the leagues hes been in and the europa league , he won the portugese league without getting beat , he won the europa league , and his win stats with chelsea are better than di matteos , who won 2 cups , so the saying get your facts right comes to mind ,,,,,,,mickey b
Carragher could be a great Tactical manager one day but I'd rather Gerrards charisma and fight would be my preferred choice.
In my opinion Gerrard would be more respected and a better magnet for future stars.
I'd rather have him than Carragher .. But that's my own personal view.
21 May 2012 17:38:18
Macca
Top man dont worry about the douters 99% of us appreciate every you tell us even if some of it don't come off.
Just please update us all when you hear anything.
Thanks.
Big Ben
21 May 2012 17:36:18
What is happening to our once great club?
Rodgers said no
Klopp said no
De Boer said no
and now Deschamps has said no aswell
We are looking for our 4th manager in 4 years, Carragher and Gerrard are a year older now so they will not be what they were last season, Not that they were up to much, Carragher cost us about 12 points and Stevie missed a lot of games through injury. It looks like our best player Suarez could be off.
They say things get worse before they get better but we've just been on a downward slope the past few seasons, We need big changes.
Paul
What a load of tripe. pitiful post
Your first sentence said it all. "once great club". Not any more mate
21 May 2012 17:34:09
Just took this from the Man City Page:
players in
Chellini 24m
Martinez 25m
Llorente 28m
Hazard 30m
out
Dzeko 20m
Johnson 12m
Adebayor 12m
santa cruz 5m
De Jong 13m
bridge 3m
other dead wood
-----------------------------------------------------
I certaintly wouldn't mind some of that dead wood at Anfield next season!
Our owners need to start thinking big!
Problem is, they have 'Champagne tastes, with only Beer money'!.
It's jaw dropping that a club could offload the likes of Adebayor, De Jong, Dzeko & Johnson and not even miss them. I just don't see how Liverpool will ever be able to compete with City.
We've got a good left back and £3 mil seems a bit steep.
kidmillions
Martinez is going to bayern
De Jong and Johnson, yes please! Lets get a manager first then talk about transfers, but you can bet your life if we get Rafa, he will want De Jong, or atleast a player very similar to him.
It's not always the names you need to win things, utds squad is no were near the qualitys of city's, but pushed them to the very very end!
G BOX
I would take Dzeko , Johnson and De Jong all day long
21 May 2012 17:31:39
hi macca just read your post bout rogers why they so keen on him he has turned us down for one yes he has had two great seasons but do u not feel its to early and if they did get him they would have to back him big time witch by the sounds of things they wont really starting to worry all te good managers are turning us down were becoming a laughthing stok we need good news quick before we all go nuts
mike
21 May 2012 17:31:19
The press rumours are shifting all the time, and seem to be away from Martinez and AVB. This morning it was Frank de Boer as the leading candidate, if Ajax will release him.
It's guess work, it annoys them that they have no idea. they will keep printing names and if one gets it right their minions will think they are in the know
21 May 2012 17:31:00
Hey Macca
I am of the same opinion as you that i miss Rafa...
Just wondering if the players would accept him back more specifically the players that worked with him before...
And do you see him coming back as a possibilty?...
Would love an answer...
Your a legend as are all the eds...
Cheers
Davis93
Hi Mate,
Pretty sure the owners do not fancy Rafa because he wants full control..
They want the new manager to coach the players and not to get involved in the day to day running of the club..
Cheers
Macca
If you miss him that much? Get yourself down to West Kirby beach you'll see him there with his two springer spaniels :)
kidmillions
As much as I want him back I suspected as much...
What's your opinion on AVB?...
Thanks for all your great work along with
the Eds...
Cheers
Davis93
21 May 2012 17:24:36
The negative posts about the manager search are getting more and more ridiculous.
So we've been turned down by managers - that was always a possible outcome, hence asking them about their interest in the job in the first place.
Guardiola, de Boer, Klopp, Mourinho - we asked the best of the best were they interested - which was always a long shot - and they said no.
The likes of Rodgers have also said no - as he said during the season many times - he wants to stay at Swansea.
Wow. Crisis. (I am being being sarcastic here btw)
Would the moaning brainiacs who are giving out about this ask themselves the following question:
Would they be happier if we never enquired about any of these coaches at all?
I'd say the same people who are moaning because we enquired about them would be moaning about the opposite if that was the case - no ambition etc, why aren't we after [insert name] etc.
It's not been a week you idiots - they acted quickly at the end of the season to make changes.
Would be happier to make the changes in the middle of the summer? Or the end of the summer perhaps? Or maybe during the season instead?
Another thing I find irritating is the assumption that all Americans are stingy clones who conform to some kind of bizarre quasi-austeretical economic principle of achieving minimum investment & maximum returns - and that this view is naturally shared by all American business owners.
Thats insane (as well as being b****cks).
How can maximum returns be achieved with minimum investment? Ever hear the phrase "you've gotta spend money to make money". Its an American maxim.
If buying LFC was an asset stripping operation, they've got a bloody strange way of going about it. (Carroll £35m, Downing £20m etc...)
The other irritating thing is the constant 'they only know about baseball', 'know nothing yanks' comments from people gripped by panic over what seems a perfectly rational decision-making process.
It seems that they have a better thought out plan than this lot of complaining dramatists.
This is clearly the best time to make changes - the end of the season. What part of all of this are you lot struggling with exactly?
Again:
Would be happier to make the changes in the middle of the summer? Or the end of the summer perhaps? Or maybe during the season instead?
Thank God that these 'clueless yanks' are running the show and not the likes of you lot - We would really know what a shambles looked like then.
Oh - and enquiring about the potential availability of the best/most sought after coaches in World football is hardly indicative of a regime of 'cheapskates' either.
Lastly - When Legendary EC winning coaches like Fabio Capello and Louis Van Gaal are showing an interest in joining your club - & EC winning coaches like Rafa are practically begging for a job - your club are certainly not a 'joke'.
Maybe in your eyes, but not in the case of anyone with a respect for the game - and/or a grasp of the current situation.
BJH YNWA (the likes of AVB, Rodgers, Lambert & Martinez should not be sniffed at either - all bright young managers with potentially big futures in the game.)
Wow that was unreal best post I ever read you should have a newspaper column
Defo the most optimistic post of the day. I think I'll ask my docs for a few of them happy pills - they seem to be working fine for you!
Nick.
Fair play to lfc for enquiring
At least they tried it seems the only top manager that would be interested is rafa but I would like laundrup
Yes delighted de boer,Deshamps and Klopp said no.Always rogers and Martinez
Post of the day by a mile.
kopfiend 1978 ynwa
21 May 2012 17:12:37
Hi Macca,
thanks again for your updates. Personally I enjoy reading your posts. I am feeling rather positive bout things. I feel really confident that FSG will put the right people in place. I also believe that money will be made available for new signings. I don't think we we need a complete overhaul like people think.
Cheers Redfish
21 May 2012 17:09:47
Hey macca dont tell the eds... but whats the word on rafa Does he have a chance of getting the job? Would the players like to see him back? hope so
21 May 2012 17:07:45
From these posts the manager could be:-
Capello
Benitez
Villas-Boas
Rodgers
Martinez
Laudrup
Van Gaal
No others.
My gut feeling is that FSG have nowhere near made a choice yet.
I expect the announcement in middle June.
21 May 2012 17:04:50
I don't really care who it is so long as it's not Benitez. He split the club & fans like no one else ever could have. I'm just trilled that the "Rafa Cult" aren't going to get their way here. You should have supported Kenny boys.
josek
Kenny boys were useless
Imagine Liverpool supporters split on the support given to any Liverpool manager? Maybe a sign of the times but Shankley would never have had that....
Whoever becomes manager will get my support.
Richards
Rafa ruined the club
21 May 2012 16:59:50
A lot of people are getting hot under the collar just now wondering bwhat the next few days - couple of weeks will bring in our search for a new manager.
One thing I would say is that when Martin Broughton eventually sold the club, he promised it went to the right people, and I have to say I trusted what he told us.
I think he is an honourable man, and has done the right thing for LFC.
I realise it is a very frustrating time right now, but until there is a result I for one am staying hopeful.
We might all get a pleasant surprise.
Keep your chins up fellow reds.
KBL
Exactly, good things come to those who wait !!
21 May 2012 16:59:26
I don't pretend to be in the know but it seems obvious to me that Martinez will be offered the job which makes me ill personally. Don't like him, bit of a yes man who does not demand respect by his achievements. We have to go for a Van Gaal or Capello (my preference). Whoever comes in, FSG need to & must back him with a decent transfer kitty. Need a new CB, CM, WG & ST. All of top quality stature, not Downings & Hendersons. Come on Mr. Henry & Mr. Werner.
Henderson has a good future - whoever he plays for!
I meant "not players with just potential".
We need already peaking players like an Alonso in CM but that's never gonna happen.
Best we can probably aim for is a Granero or someone of that ilk who can't get much game time at a top club.
If i was a decent player like Granero & Roberto Martinez was the manager i'd look elsewhere...whereas if Capello was the manager a lot of players would be begging to come due to his pedigree. But i'm sure he has ruffled enough feathers down the years too so i dunno if he's popular amongst players.
It almost certainly will be Martinez anyway getting the job & i'm horrified at the thought.
Can't believe we even considered Rodgers either - what has he won & proven?...big name players would walk all over them as i'm sorry but they just wouldn't command respect. A bit like AVB at Chelsea.
This is a make or break decision FSG have now & for me, they have to bring in an experienced manager who commands & demands respect so the likes of Gerrard, Carragher, Agger, Reina & Suarez listen.
They have been loud in the past with criticisms of past managers or team selections etc or have had controversy follow them at times so need putting back in their boxes by someone who they fear slightly, a bit like Fergie with the Wan**.
Martinez won't be able for it i fear.
Sorry for being so pessimistic all - i'm just a little worried like most of you i guess..
21 May 2012 16:39:23
huntelaar eds? all i am saying is...
2011/12 German Bundesliga
GAMES GOALS ASSISTS SHOTS
32 29 8 97
theanfieldcat
21 May 2012 16:32:23
I think LFC would be far better off if there was only an agree button on this sight...That way it would seem like us, the fans are all pulling in the same direction whatever direction that is...
I know, I know it sounds silly... but what I'm getting that is whoever is appointed and along with our owners, the support of the entire LFC family is required to push on. It's really amazing what a 40 000 + however odd million supporters around the globe can do
YNWA
NextGenRed
21 May 2012 16:25:28
Tom Werner in April said 'we have great faith in Kenny', well that was a mighty whopper. Reality Red
Yeah I keep thinking about that statement. How and why can we believe anything they say now?
Simsimo
With an FA Cup final coming up what else was he meant to say? "Oh we don't have faith in our current manager, fans might as well not bother turning up to the rest of our games"
No harm in being honest especaily if it true.
21 May 2012 16:25:21
The negative posts about the manager search are getting more and more ridiculous.
So we've been turned down by managers - that was always a possible outcome, hence asking them about their interest in the job in the first place.
Guardiola, de Boer, Klopp, Mourinho - we asked the best of the best were they interested - which was always a long shot - and they said no.
The likes of Rodgers have also said no - as he said during the season many times - he wants to stay at Swansea.
Wow. Crisis. (I am being being sarcastic here btw)
Would the moaning brainiacs who are giving out about this ask themselves the following question:
Would they be happier if we never enquired about any of these coaches at all?
I'd say the same people who are moaning because we enquired about them would be moaning about the opposite if that was the case - no ambition etc, why aren't we after [insert name] etc.
It's not been a week you idiots - they acted quickly at the end of the season to make changes.
Would be happier to make the changes in the middle of the summer? Or the end of the summer perhaps? Or maybe during the season instead?
Another thing I find irritating is the assumption that all Americans are stingy clones who conform to some kind of bizarre quasi-austeretical economic principle of achieving minimum investment & maximum returns - and that this view is naturally shared by all American business owners.
Thats insane (as well as being b****cks).
How can maximum returns be achieved with minimum investment? Ever hear the phrase "you've gotta spend money to make money". Its an American maxim.
If buying LFC was an asset stripping operation, they've got a bloody strange way of going about it. (Carroll £35m, Downing £20m etc...)
The other irritating thing is the constant 'they only know about baseball', 'know nothing yanks' comments from people gripped by panic over what seems a perfectly rational decision-making process.
It seems that they have a better thought out plan than this lot of complaining dramatists.
This is clearly the best time to make changes - the end of the season. What part of all of this are you lot struggling with exactly?
Again:
Would be happier to make the changes in the middle of the summer? Or the end of the summer perhaps? Or maybe during the season instead?
Thank God that these 'clueless yanks' are running the show and not the likes of you lot - We would really know what a shambles looked like then.
Oh - and enquiring about the potential availability of the best/most sought after coaches in World football is hardly indicative of a regime of 'cheapskates' either.
Lastly - When Legendary EC winning coaches like Fabio Capello and Louis Van Gaal are showing an interest in joining your club - & EC winning coaches like Rafa are practically begging for a job - your club are certainly not a 'joke'.
Maybe in your eyes, but not in the case of anyone with a respect for the game - and/or a grasp of the current situation.
BJH YNWA (the likes of AVB, Rodgers, Lambert & Martinez should not be sniffed at either - all bright young managers with potentially big futures in the game.)
Couldn't agree with this post anymore, finally some sense on what the owners are doing. Would just like to add that these same clowns claiming we're wasting time taking so long in appointing someone would probably be in uproar if FSG had lined up a replacement for Kenny.
Ali
Blimey!
You put some thought into this didn't you.
It's so long im still reading it :(
Didn't mean to post this twice - sorry!
Also a very good point by Ali. I totally agree.
BJH YNWA
21 May 2012 16:13:14
Torres has publicly said he is not happy. Suarez said he is not going anywhere. Still media want to ship suarez and here we are told dnt know anything about Torres. What should we believe?
21 May 2012 16:11:53
Looks the 3 main contenders are
Avb Martinez and Rafa which of these 3 would people prefer?
In order of personally would be
Avb
Martinez
Rafa
John:-)
Out of these 3 I would say Benitez would be my choice. However! I don't believe any of these WILL be our manager and it's argueble that they should be.
Benitez
AVB
Martinez
Martinez
21 May 2012 16:10:27
Macca,
Last week you were indicating Klopp was a strong contender. Based on your comments I bet a fiver that he would be our next manager. As I would have shared my winnings with you, I think its only fair that you cough up the £2.50 now that he has ruled himself out ;)
Starscream
Can you send all your bank details through please pal and i promise to pay??
Cheers
Macca
Don't worry for now. I've doubled up on brendon Rodgers after what you said earlier. If he becomes the manager u will be off the hook:)
Starscream
I promise to.
AnfieldUSA
21 May 2012 16:09:27
With all these managers rejecting us I'm really starting to fear that Roberto Martinez could actually be our manager next season, and I would rather see Jamie Carragher in the hot seat to be honest! I've also heard a rumour that AVB has rejected us already too. I just hope we get Rafa back. If we're not getting the likes of Klopp or de Boer then it has to be Rafa, although Laudrup or Deschamps doesn't sound drastic.
Sean the Red
Don't slate him before giving him a chance. At least wait and see how he does.
21 May 2012 16:08:37
liverpool need a winger. kuyt too slow because of his age.. they must find a quality player for $30M budget. Adam Johnson or Afellay is solution on right wing because liverpool need a pace player. Steven defour 1 of the creative midfield liverpool must keep looking. For striker position I think Shane Long have a criteria if he combined with suarez. Liverpool will be a good team if they can catch these quality player on 30M budget..
Sell maxi rodriguez, joe cole, kuyt for get some funds.
loan out Jordan Henderson, Shelvey, Sterling for get experience.
Keep current defender because johnson,skrtel,agger,enrique was a perfect combination..
For the striker position id go for steven fletcher of wolves very clinical
ACHILLES.
Afellay & Defour are the two most injury prone footballers around. They would spend most of their time on the treatment table rather than the pitch. We need consistency, a player who can play 40 odd games a season, Afellay & Defour don't offer that.
Kuyt has always been slow!
I'd prefer to have Jordan Rhodes in the squad than Shane Long to be honest.
21 May 2012 16:00:09
Hi Eds, realise liverpool is not cherry picking from the relegated clubs unlike a certain shrewd harry of spurs who cherry pick a number of gd players like bassong from relegated clubs. who are the players u reckon a look at? off hand i can think of Paul Robinson, Morton Gamst pederson, Jarvis,Nigel reo coker,hoilet {Ed001's Note - to be honest, I really don't see any of those as worth looking at.}
Reo coker and Bellamy in the same team thats a great idea they absolutely love each other
21 May 2012 16:04:38
An unnamed poster at 11.43 today made a few points I would like to comment on.
Rafa was sacked by H & G. !
Hodgson was sacked by FSG because things weren't going well and the fans demanded it. Yes he (well West Brom) came back and beat us and yes he then got the England job. I do not want to defend or slate Hodgson ( he was treated appallingly by the fans) but I think the WBrom win was more to do with our team then his !
As regards getting the England job - what has that got to do with anything?
'KK icon' won a trophy etc etc and sacked - can you, hand on heart, say he should have stayed after the season we have had? If your answer is yes then the dialogue between us is pointless.
No progress on the stadium - how do you know? you mean you haven't been told anything yet.
I am not an advocate of, or for Martinez, but it must be a damn sight harder to manage a poor team then a team full of (performing) stars - a' la Barcelona.
'flew him out to the US' to sack him 'in front of the World's press - I think Kenny Dalglish instigated the meeting and flew out there rather than wait for the arranged UK meeting a week or two later .
'Not having a replacement ready' and if they HAD then you would have been first on here complaining
that they were going behind his back and plotting and scheming whilst he was working away. I think you have made your mind up about our new owners and are now trying to get 'evidence' to support your
decision.
Also Ed001 - a few posts after the one above you say that you think that FSG should shoulder some of the blame for the Suarez affair by stepping in....IF they HAD done, everyone (and possibly you), would have said that the owners were undermining the staff they had in place at Anfield.Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I think everyone should give the guys a break
Puzzled
Great post... Damned if you do damed if you don't it up ... {Ed001's Note - great post my backside, load of nonsense. They should have stepped up and shown some leadership, instead of standing back and leaving everyone floundering. The staff at the club were incapable of coping with it, they knew that and just waited for the chance to get rid. Fair enough, but they could have got rid after fixing the mess in the first place, instead of letting everything get out of hand.}
You cant allow a club to keep slideing.
was good to win the carling cup we nearly did not it went to penalties to a club outside pl
Mate, Hodgson dug his grave before he even set foot at anfield with his disgusting playing style he makes his teams adopt for a for a year or so then sods off somewhere else. No decent club would tolerate his style of football for longer than 3 months.. He also had a negative loser attitude that made fans want to weep. He wasn't right for Liverpool and Kenny was a huge improvement. Watch England bore the whole of Europe to death at the Euros. I'd rather watch paint dry.. Kenny never blamed his players like Hodgson did.. The guy just doesn't inspire..
It wasnt a case of the fans teating Roy bad it was what the press kept writing in the paper THE RESULTS less than 35% win ratio and beaten at home by Northampton and laughing about it in the dugout)
Excellent post. Well said.
Red4Life
You certainly seem puzzled
Why give them a break? They've proved nothing yet? They are beginning too look a bit dim, you have to agree:
I think some on here might think I was saying we should have kept Roy. NO I don't
I was merely making one or two points in answer to the original poster who seemed to be listing all the things the owners have 'done wrong' and Edoo1 I am afraid the nonsense on here was in your reply
Puzzled {Ed001's Note - if you say so, but your post was utter rubbish. Some of us are capable of seeing that mistakes have been made and saying so, without getting on their back if they had acted correctly.}
Boy you really are puzzled aren't you.
roy hodgson was hopeless. and what the fans wanted was justified. king kenny took over and we came 6th.
our season was bad no doubts about it but when exactly did our form dip? it was after the suarez-evra thing. the bad press did dent us. kenny should have handled it better but so could the owners.
now the stadium-i know they are working on it but dont you think that it is high time that they acted. when the owners arrived one of the first things they promised was the stadium. do you realize that we have lost another year of revenue.
king kenny made 2 or 3 bad buys. who has not. did the owners think they would get cl by investing 40-50 mil. our squad was in shambles and cl was never going to happen.
now that the owners have sacked kenny and indirectly made a statement that cups and finals are worthless. the joy a cup win brings to the fans is useless. all they care about is cl and the money that it brings. who would take up such a huge challenge? and if you haven't seen the pattern, everyones rejecting the offer. they find their current jobs much safer. they dont want to be jobless in 12 months time.
and dont ever mock king kenny
oldmonk
Sorry ed001 couldn't follow the second part of the sentence in your reply. As regards the topic in hand we will have to agree to disagree
Puzzled
21 May 2012 16:04:34
Perfect summer would include us getting Da Boer, Laudrup, Deschamps or Van Gaal
whilst getting quality transfers, Ramirez, L. De jong, Soldado, Munian, Eriksen, El Shaarawy, Affellay, Martinez, Susaeta, Mertens, Honda ...
3 out of that list and i'd be happy
also we need to sell on some people -
poulsen
cole
aurelio
spearing
keep aqua man
redman
2 of above options say no!
Did what not sell Poulson last summer
21 May 2012 16:21:28
Just been in Bootle strand, seen Pep Guardiola wearing a 'This Is Anfield' polo top.
I asked him what he was doin there, he said he was getting welcome back presents for Torres, Alonso and Mascherano coz there all coming back.
Top bloke.. hope we get 4th with him XD
We can all dream
I was grafting in b&m watching this all taken place un -be known to this poster and confirm that it is 100% true!!
What he did not see was laudrup walking past( after getting a tele in brighthouse) with a right gob in him after overhearing that he did not get the chance to rule himself out of the job!
Davy deep pocketsxxx
Funnily enough, I was talking to my local jumper salesman and he told me he had a huge order of red jumpers with LFC stitched in, enough to wear one everyday for five years.
He also told me that his brother (who works at Waterstones) has just sold a Spanish-English Dictionary and a couple Liverpool guide maps.
Make of this what you will, no seriously make of it what you will cause I can't piece it together.
Ambitious Red
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE LIE!!
People like you shouldn't be allowed on here!
I know it's a lie because Pep was stuck at Kirkdale station all afternoon, the lifts were out of order and he couldn't cart his luggage up the stairs!
Myk
21 May 2012 16:16:41
ed is there any update on the stadium (naming rights) {Ed002's Note - Nope.}
Rumours on a swedish football site say Air China International have proposed a bid of £350m for the naming rights to Liverpools new Stadia.
The Air China Stadium??
21 May 2012 16:15:52
Recent post said put your money on Capello. I heard this over the weekend too. Hope not!
21 May 2012 15:51:35
(AnfieldUSA i think you are over hyping him. he is probably going to be really realy really good. but not to what you are rating him. im from canada i know what your talking about it exploding tho
Mate. I'm not Overhyping him. Have you seen him play?
AnfieldUSA)
no i have not but i understand he is probably going to be real good. but still look how many people look brilliant in their teens and dont make it...... look at pacheco. he is another.... id still take pacheco but he is loaned out from a club he got loaned to and never plays.... my opinion atleast. im not knocking him i just think he is a little overhyped by you
BostonRedBlox to AnfieldUSA
What on earth would make the Liverpool academy want him? What on earth could make dallas want him in their u-16s? How on earth can he be the leading goal scoring in the odp( a program designed to nourish the best talents in north America) see in him? If you have not seen him play, how can you conduct that I'm overhyping him? Please explain you logic.
AnfieldUSA
21 May 2012 16:00:41
Everyone keeps saying Suarez doesn't score enough goals he got 26 goals 20 assists in 48 appearances for Liverpool an Uruguay over 2011/2012 and he was baned for 8 games!
Lay off the guy is top quality!
21 May 2012 15:53:50
based on this season then (rodgers) any one surprised Pardew not even mentioned.
Defo wouldn't leave Newcastle
Another one that has been seduced by the media....
pardew has one good season and he's liverpool quality
NO!
I'd be surprised if he WAS!.
21 May 2012 15:52:16
So is making the top4 a first season a requirement for whoever comes in then? no wonder there all turning us down.
Should have kept Kenny, eh?
cozinoz
I have to agree. I just can't see Brendan Rodgers or Roberto Martinez catapulting us into the top 4 in their first season.
Infact if I'm being honest I don't see those two ever getting us into the top 4.
21 May 2012 15:50:38
i hope fsg suprise the life out of everyone this summer by showing there many years of experience and bring the very best to liverpool .can i get an Amen to that lol....
Amen to that.
kopofiend 1978 ynwa
21 May 2012 15:49:10
What about girad?
His Philosophy doesn't suit the Club's History.
21 May 2012 15:47:54
China air stadium?
21 May 2012 15:45:57
Perks and benefits available to new LFC manager.
1. Free Boston Red Sox tickets (value $25), please provide own airfare, accomadation, food and drink.
2. Free 'hair dying and hair grooming tips' from Mr Henry.
3. Lapdance from Mrs Henry.
4. Monthly Walmart coupons valued at $100.
5. Explanation of moneyball, because nobody really understands it.
6. Free Hedgefund financial advice coupon, valued at $350.
7. 6 Warrior Sports Lacrosse shirts.
Ha, ha, ha.
The 'folly' of FSG!.
I'd certainly take number 3 haha
You had me at lapdance, now where do I sign??
MIKEY
The Funniest thing about your Posts is
You sat there actually Thinking your Funny!!
Lyndon
Wind up merchant, go back to your cave.
an american red
Yep. That was the standout perk in that list lol.
ND
21 May 2012 15:45:48
It makes sense for Rodgers to decline to interview, even if he wants the job.
He will have seen how Martinez is treated by the Swansea fans. So he has to stay publicly loyal, or he may be finished at Swansea.
And if he goes public and does not get the LFC job, he will have screwed himself.
If he is indeed FSG's first choice now, then LFC basically have to convince him of that, and arrange compensation with Swansea behind the scenes. Then he can come out and talk about it.
I would welcome him to the club. His team played probably the best football in the EPL last season. He is one of the future stars of management - no question.
...or he could be another Paul Jewell or Roy Keane. Good couple of seasons then disappears into obscurity.
21 May 2012 15:45:16
Morning all I noticed a post yesterday from a DANIEL HALWELL, it said that AVB would be named manager this morning and that we have scouts watching Cavani, I wondered if said poster had any history of getting things right so I checked. This is what I found...
JANUARY
"we will buy Granero, Isla and
Couthino"
"we will bid for Honda and Soldado"
AUGUST
"we will sign Cahill"
"Dann will go to arsenal"
JULY
"Aguero is coming to Liverpool"
"if Aguero doesn't sign this summer I will never post again"
"disappointing news, Aguero is not even being considered"
"you heard it here first, I predict Doni, Downing, Mata, Turan, Dann and Baines"
"N'Zogbia and Mata will sign. Zapata and Angel will sign Turan will sign and maybe James Milner"
Please stop Daniel, you know nothing and have no source
Rinsed
Does this mean Arda Turan isn't coming?
or is that so last summer? :)
21 May 2012 15:43:45
Macca,
How can they be after Rodgers when he has turned them down
Cheers
Greg
21 May 2012 15:40:01
Its strange that Swansea have said that they havent given Liverpool permission to speak with Rogers, yet Macca's sources reckon that he is the preffered man.
Do you think that they will return to him and ask him again. From what Ive gathered he didnt want to speak with us on the off chance, he would only consider speaking with us if we actually wanted him for the job. If he is seen to want to speak with us then doesnt even get the job then it might backfire on him
21 May 2012 15:39:18
My solution to all of our problems!!!
Manager: Adres Villas Boas
Team: Reina
Johnson Agger Skrtel Enrique
Ramirez Gerrard Alonso Bellamy
Suarez De jong
Subs: Doni, Shelvey, lucas, Carroll, Downing, Kelly, Coates
Nit sure bellamy that useful out wide. Doesn't defend at all. But other than that would take that team and manager given the state of the club at the moment.
That is realistic and great why not!!! lets get behind anyone that come in tho
21 May 2012 15:38:37
I will put my neck out here & say I would be happy to offer Capello a 3 year deal to get us into the Champions League.
He could attract big name players & I believe Gerrard & Carragher enjoyed working with him for England too he also knows the Prem clubs very,very well.
Within the next 2/3 years we may discover the likes of Pep,Jose,De Boer etc will be looking for new challenges & if we have a solid squad with Champions League football we would be very attractive to potential suitors.
SL
Nice of you to sick your neck out, now wind it back in lmao
21 May 2012 15:37:10
It seems to me that the manager position was sorted out a while ago, why else would LFC allow the media to mock us in the rejections we are supposedly getting from various managers, maybe we are busy working away at transfer targets whilst using the manager search as a smokecreen.
Rafa and 4 signings? anythings possible
9Red
I also thought that this might be the case
^ I really hope so!
21 May 2012 15:28:58
To be honest ed001 you are forgetting the main cause of rafas downfall. Hicks and gillet. Rafa shopped in the bargan bin for a long time and his signings when he had money were excellent, reina lucas, torres, alonso, mash, arbeloa, and although I'm not sure agger and skrtel. He did alienate alonso but that was his only way to generate funds. I do agree he lost the plot abit towards the end and his tactical changes when we were a goal down were sometimes awful, but overall he took the club forward and won trophys with donkeys like traore. My main point about rafa coming back is that if you look at the other options I.e avb, martinez and co it really is a no brainer- bring rafa back!
Please don't lose the plot just answer adressing the points. Ps everyone is open to their opinion so no need to call me idiotic for stateing mine lol
K-man {Ed001's Note - Rafa was the cause of his own downfall when he alienated Pako, not H&G. They simply didn't have enough money to cover the ludicrous wages Rafa was putting on the club.}
Keane 20m, aquilani 20m - that's what happens when he's given dosh
cozinoz
Rafa is the only manager out there who can get us back to the CL and if he was giving out high wage's how come Stevie Gerrard is still the highest earner at LFC and has been for year's! Comparing Stevie's wage's to other premiere player's wage's Stevie's is like small change to their's! Plus H&G did'nt have enough money to buy the club never mind high wage's! Rafa outed H&G for what they were yet he get's the majority of the blame off some fan's! The man is a tactical genius and would've learnt from his previous mistake's! In Rafa we trust! and the only way forward! {Ed001's Note - that makes absolutely no sense, have you really thought that through before trying to prove your point with Stevie G's wages?}
Lol seemed like they never had money for rafa or club, other than their personal reasons.
believe of not , there was major part played by the owners n co in rafa's downfall . and every man has goods n bads . if you count the goods abt rafa they will be more.
we ware just a few signings away from the top, at rafa's time , forget abt winning or loosing , rafa's teams good or bad , defensive or dull anyway was one of the toughest lot to beat. and in europe teams used to fear us to a limit. there is a something abt him .the passion,lil bit of attitude , fighting spirit that was transformed into this team by rafa. many moments they looked like world beaters .,and look at kenny's or hodgson's team,even the likes of newly promoted teams like Norwich thought they can have a go at us n they did. signing a manager like martinez or ludrop (spell?) would be a mistake , another hodgson's era is on the cards if we do this.
n rafa in or not , the debate can go on ...but certainly his is more bigger n solid the other options. n yes , he will come back with vengeance this time.
Why not give Pako the job then....if he was the brains of the Rafa era outfit, why has he not been approached??
Limerick Red {Ed001's Note - he is a fitness coach, not a manager.}
Cozinoz KK=Downing,Hendo,Adam!!
21 May 2012 15:31:47
Eds Can you confirm the following
List of potential Managers from what I can gather:
Frank de Boer
AVB
pepe guardiola
jose mourinho
brendan rogers
Roberto Martinez
Didier Deschamp
Jurgen Klopp
Fabio Capello
Rene Girard
rafa benitez
From that list based on press reports these are the ones that haven't publically officially said no. And yes I know that Mourino and Pepe are on the list but just posting based on list vs official no's
Didier Deschamp
Fabio Capello
Rene Girard
rafa benitez
AVB
pepe guardiola
jose mourinho
Roberto Martinez
Based on that list i think of people who haven't said no I think we are realistically looking at
Didier Deschamp
Rene Girard
rafa benitez
AVB
Roberto Martinez
21 May 2012 15:28:41
Mike Newell - agree
Didier Deschamps - disagree
^ I disagree with the both of them!
21 May 2012 14:49:54
hey eds please post
realistically when can we expect to hear news of the manager, because the suspense is killing me, and in your opinion who do you think will get the job? {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}
21 May 2012 15:08:40
Macca, you shouldn't have to tell people where your info comes from.
If the kids that visit this sight can't inderstand that you're just passing on info then let them moan and forget them.
KT!
*site
KT!
21 May 2012 15:05:55
Here's a question for all the Ed's and fellow Reds.
If we applied the 'Moneyball theory' (MR Henrys favourite, piece of nonsense!), to all the Managerial candidates (even those who have already declined), how would they do?.
If FSG want to use this approach, age, sell-on criteria to assess players, why not for managers as well, and while we are at it, what about all potential LFC appointments.
Just goes to show how silly FSG really are!.
Let's brighten our day with this!.
FSG have not and will not use moneyball system for LFC
Ed1 a lot of manager rejecting us do you think the job is too big or lack of investment from the owners who have set the targets or the way kenny(legend) was treated {Ed001's Note - it is just some people don't want to leave the job they have already, just yet.}
You have no idea what moneyball is mate, it doesnt apply to managers
Moneyball works in baseball (and probably some other sports) because there are tons of concrete and easily quantifiable statistics. That is not the case with football, and actually probably quite misleading, goals are probably the easiest statistic to quntify, but how does thta stack up when you purchase a lower teams penalty taker, probably doesnt make sense all of a sudden. Conversely how do you quantify a forwards run to space which pulls a defender away unlocking space for someone else? You can't. Moneyball doesn't work for football.
The Red Seth
USA
There is no such thing as "moneyball theory". The term Moneyball comes from a novel about the use of Sabermetrics used by Billy Beane of the Oakland Athletics.
an american red
Moneyball isn't used by FSG
21 May 2012 15:03:44
Hello this a question to ed 002 and macca how long will this be going on for, I know you know just as much as us but when will a new manager be appointed a rough estimate? And who do you think it will be ?
Thanks Jake . {Ed002's Note - Unless Macca knows better it would be guess work. Once the club have gotten to sit down with the guys to be interviewed I would expect it to be quick. If the new manager is already in a job then compensation would need to be agreed. It won't go on all summer, but perhaps a couple of weeks or so at a guess.}
Cheers mate I would love to know your opinion on who will get the job. Many thanks Jake
21 May 2012 15:25:24
Put your money on Capello … I promise.
You promise? You being............?
21 May 2012 15:22:43
Interview questions for LFC management candidates.
1: How old are you.
30-40, 40_50, 50-60, 60 and older.
2: What is a Hedge fund?.
3: Did uou watch the movie 'Moneyball'?.
A: Did you like it?.
B: Did you understand it?.
C: Did you know John Henry was referenced in it?.
3: Can you qualify for CHamps league, with the team we have?.
4: If given £10m could you buy 4 quality players?.
5: Do you like Mr Henrys 'trophy wife'?.
6: Can you take orders, without question?.
7: Can you lie and mislead, or deflect questions about the Stadium (because we haven't a clue what to do)?.
Appointment as LFC manager to be based on answers given to questions above.
Ha, ha, how silly it all seems, really!
a
No! How silly you sound.
In what way are you qualified to talk or have any idea of Running a multi-million pound company. By trying to simplify it and mock it you are making yourself look silly.
These people have not just drilled an whole in the ground and barrelled oil for a living. They have made money over a long period of time. We have no idea of what is being done behind closed doors. They may of been getting bad advice lately but let's give them a break!!
Lyndon
My god mate it is a joke! Life is not serious all the time!
God's sake Lyndon, lighten up, it is a banter page after all.
21 May 2012 15:21:27
Hi ed,just worried abt the club in complete mess,no dof no manager,for sure it will affect us badly in transfer window,new manager will have his own idea toward the club n players n new dof will the new manager n dof, can work in coordination to take the club forward. thanks for all the info n hard work. [redindian]
21 May 2012 15:18:31
Fernando 'Me Me Me Me' Torres.
Liverpool 'obsessed with chelsea, obsessed with torres' FC
SHED END
Oh ello bellend, 70,000 to see your team return home, liverpool had 1 million in 2005. that my friend is the difference between a big club and a small one x
Says a Chelsea fan on a LFC page! Nuff said....
And whose page are you on...
Chelsea was unheard of before roman abramovic, anything the chavs won has been bought!
fact
Says, SHED 'ALWAYS ON THE LFC PAGE' END
No just find it funny!!
While some of the younger posters have a woody for the long haired beauty Torres, I can promise you that not a single one of us would bother to waste our time with an obsession with Chelsea. Plastic tends to rash my skin, anyway...
McSnuggles
SHED END
"Obsessed with LFC rumours site"
What's wrong with the Chelsea site? Oh wait I remember they only talk about how to defend for 89 mins then play a long ball to Drogba..
Josh LFC
Was it 70,000? ha ha ha What a joke!
So you have crawled out of your hole again.Have you ordered your season ticket yet or are you settling for your sky subscription again?
Banter from proper fans (Osgoodisking,for example) who actually go to matches is good,banter from those who dont even go to watch because the Midlands is so far from Stamford Bridge is just ridiculous.
I would suggest you find some mates to go trainspotting with or go and find some windows to lick!
Derek
21 May 2012 15:00:31
To be honest and to give credit to FSG im glad they are taking their time over the decision for our new boss, its a huge decision to find the right man to take us forward, and i think they are getting some unjust criticism for the way they are running the club, they saved us and have invested a lot of money and im sure will continue to do so in the right time scale. i love Kenny Dalglish as much as the next fan but the fact is his team and his signings were not producing on the pitch and in all probability if Dalglish stayed for the next season i suspect we would have fallen further behind the top four, although in Dalglish's favour i expect Henderson and Carroll will turn into top players for Liverpool in time.
but i think a lot of fans look at Man City's spending and think FSG should do the same, people need to realise no club can match City's spending. even though i think Mancini is a terrible manager with the money and players at his disposal he should have won the league by 20 points.
So be thankful FSG will use time find the right man for Liverpool with fresh ideas and tactical knowledge to find a way to win. it can be done with the right players and system without spending ridiculous amounts of money.
and For F**ks Sake please sign a winger with pace!!!
cobra
What happens to man city when the oil runs out, utd when fergie retires and the bank wants their money back, Chelsea when abramovitch gets bored? At least we'll still have a club.
21 May 2012 14:57:20
Luis suarez has dissmised all roumers that he is
Leaving in the summer ynwa
It might not be down to him
Puzzled
21 May 2012 14:56:59
Hi eds....just wondering how reliable Koptalk is, and if he really does have any inside info, or is it all bull?
Kabir {Ed001's Note - he has a new 'exclusive' every day, so the law of averages tells you that he must have to make up a large percentage of those stories.}
So maybe 1 in 10 are real is that what your saying ed or is that a bit high {Ed001's Note - a lot less I would say, most of his stories are just culled from newspapers. It is impossible for anyone to get new stories every day that are exclusive.}
21 May 2012 14:56:11
Hope all those people who said AVB would be named manager this morning are feeling a bit stupid today.
21 May 2012 14:41:52
it seems to me that we are all getting a little impatient waiting on news off the new manager but its hardly been a week since kenny left so it is very unlikely that a new manager would be appointed that quick , i for 1 would rather the powers that be take their time and get the best man for the job that fits into the long term strategy for the club so that in 12 months time we are not all going through the same thing again, important decisions take time so be patient these guys are no fools!!!!
21 May 2012 14:08:53
Hey Eds. The stories coming out in the press, are only about the managers who don't want to talk to us. I imagine the ones that are willing to talk we probably won't hear about until we make a decision. You guys heard about anything about who IS talking to us?
Also why does everyone keep asking for Rafa back? He's a terrible man manager, makes alot of bad decisions on and off the pitch. He was a good tactician in Europe but never looked like winning a premier league campaign. Plus he had pretty much lost the plot in the end at Liverpool. Then went on to Italy and ruined inter. We need someone new, fresh ideas and title winning credentials.
Thanks gents. Awesome work.
Kelzie {Ed002's Note - We don't know anything more than has been said.}
Makes sense we dont know who has agreed to talk to us....
Martinez,Rodgers have both been dragged through allsorts for no reason on here.
as much as i liked Rafa, i have to agree. He did make teams fear us again, but his decision making during 90minutes was woefull!
i predict an announcement on friday this week!
Also, anyone else think Macca has had the weight lifted by declaring his sources?
Brave, didnt need to as those on here know its a rumour site will never judge, just be grateful we have someone on the inside.
Piddy.
21 May 2012 14:50:16
Can almost see the headlines next year if we get the Swansea manager.
After beating United in both games.....
'Brendan Rogers Alex'..... now that has a nice ring to it
Tel 1949
Very wishful thinking, They drew 0-0 with us at Anfield and Beat us In their own place. Probably 1 of the reasons why Rodgers said he doesnt even want to speak to us
Noel
Think he's chose to stay with a big side - doesn't want a project lol
It was 1-1 at anfield
clm96p
21 May 2012 14:36:33
Rodolph Borell surely could be the answer to our prayers
21 May 2012 14:29:16
Guillem Balgue has said that RAFA has not been approached by LFC and that there are no plans to at the moment ?
He is normally quite knowledgeable on these things, so for now Im putting RAFA on hold, despite the fact that I think he could do well for us
Lets see where FSG take us.... its a big journey (nothings ever simple for us eh !!)
Tel 1949
21 May 2012 14:28:29
Villas-Boas, who attended yesterday's Portuguese Cup final between Academica and Sporting Lisbon, is also wanted by Serie A side AS Roma.
He said: "I am still choosing the right project and that decision will take the necessary time."
AVB will go to Roma!.
So forget about him.
^ I really hope so!
21 May 2012 14:26:32
just found this on you tube, brought tears to my eyes.
Rafa Benitez in tears at Hillsborough 22 memorial
http://youtu.be/WRllRTMU51s
What a man..... hope you dont mind EDs ?
Tel 1949
Some say he was too cold /methodical.... but the man is all passion, just doesnt make a song and dance about things. I want him back as manager so bad. He is perfect for us right now.
Dara D
I think he was cold for a reason cause if ur chummy with the manager n u hav a crap game u was in for a rollicking and maybe dropped for the next game.
put it one way jordan henderson wouldnt be playing 90mins of every game if thats the performance hes going put in for liverpool same with downing they would be dropped and told buck your ideas up.
21 May 2012 14:25:34
Just so everyones aware of how much nobody in the press knows anything or how much HASNT been leaked this is the latest betting update.........
ALL these managers.........
Cappello, Laudrup, Van Gaal, Schuster, o'Neill, Di Matteo, Lambert, Ancellotti, Hiddink, Klinsmann, Guardiola, Klopp and Lippi
have all moved to about 10-20 points lower than they were previous, there have been deviations in between like Laudrup going from 7's to 16's then 28's back to 16's but in general theyve all been shortened a good bit compared to yesterday.......
NOBODY has a clue, trust me these Americans arent being foolish their being meticulous and keeping their cards close to their chests, you really dont think in this day and age of the internet being the biggest social platform ever that Fenway dont read EVERYTHING to do with LFC online do you??......Theyll have people reading all this nonsense constantly to see what the perceived view of the everyday fan on the street is,
Its all hotting up!, bet the press and media sections everywhere are sicking of making stuff up now! they dont have a clue!
The Guv 81-9 JFT96 YNWA
21 May 2012 14:25:23
eds, I seem to remember ian ayre saying in an interview, that even if we had won the fa cup, kenny would have been sacked, clearly this means the decision to sack kenny had been in place for a while, so my question is, why have we waited until now to make enquiries for a new manager?
YNWA {Ed002's Note - I don't know that teh owners have been doing nothing in the interim period.}
Ayre didn't say that so to speak. He said something along the lines of the decision to sack Kenny being based on the course of the whole season, not just one game. This doesn't mean that the decision to sack Kenny had been in place in a while, simply that the decision to sack him was made based on the season as a whole (which to the businessmen means league position) rather than the cup runs
Red Ollie
This post is on the money . ian ayre is making it up as they go along .
21 May 2012 14:25:00
How come there are no new stories on lfc.tv what's going can anyone tell me ?
Thanks
They're revamping website m8
They are making changes to the website. there is a blog section in their website where they will show the latest news. hope this helps :)
Whole platform is being changed, TV, website etc etc, as of last friday.
there is a blog on the website informing of changes to what and when.
Piddy.
21 May 2012 14:23:05
Macca.....I actually want Rodgers as our new manager and Begiristain as Director of Football/Technical Director.....but can you realistically see this happening, given that Rodgers has already rebuffed our initial approach?
@Glanton1892
21 May 2012 14:21:09
Had a thought...
Last night I was laying in bed thinking about my beloved Liverpool FC and wondering who we should get as our manager. Now don't crucify me when I say it but I honestly believe Rafael Benitez and Roberto Martinez working together, both Spanish, both tactically aware... I'd love to see this happen with txiki as DoF... Who knows what's going to happen know one will until factual information is released but I'd love to see those three at the club.
Thanks!
JS
Rafa Yes! the other fella No!
21 May 2012 14:20:22
Due to the fact that lots of people are turning the job down or are not willing to even talk to us, do they know something we dont?
Don;t be paranoid, most of managers who turned us down have just won their leagues and are in the Champions league and are building foundations for their clubs futures, I don;t see why they would want to jump ship yet and wouldn;t for any club, I have rescpect for Klopp and De Boer for sticking with their clubs to build on their success. They understand the long term view and are not finished with their projects. We need someone who likewise wants to start somethign new and we have to give them time to do it.
21 May 2012 14:18:29
Ed001 upto now the three names being related to the managers Job are AVB , Martinez and Benitez (who according to papers have accepted the interview) and Macca is saying we are after Rogers.
according to you is there any chance if FSG do not get their prefered choice (Rogers) will they be interested in giving the Job to Rodolfo Borello ?
as in my opinion he can do a better job than the 3 being mentioned . Also whats your opinion on him ? {Ed001's Note - I really do not understand why Borrell is not at the forefront of the possibles. I hope that the very public interview process is purely to show that they have looked before deciding he is the best candidate for the job. But I have a feeling that they have, very wrongly in my opinion, completely overlooked him. I think he is probably the best option out there, right now, I just don't see any reason to appoint someone like Martinez or Rodgers over him.}
I am beginning to feel like that too Ed1. It seems to make sense that Borell fits the bill for FSG i.e fairly young, tactically aware, speaks decent English, quite media friendly and good contacts throughout football.
Ed001, has Borrell had (or will have) an interview? Personally I think he's been completely overlooked... which could see us lose him. As I said the other day if he isn't offered at least Assistant manager I think that would be wrong...
Richards {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware he has yet to even be considered. I hope I am wrong though.}
21 May 2012 14:18:05
Hi
Out of rodgers ,AVB, Martinez, Benitez, i think Benitez comes first when it comes to experience, authority, cup or league winners ect ect. He has been out of football recently, so he must have learn from his mistakes (stubbornest, playing players out of position cost him his job) and has had time to watch/ analyse football matches looking /analysing footballers from a coaching point of view. looking for raw talent earlier (in case he got a job somewhere i:e doing his homework incase...) I would really like FSG to give him another chance at our club. He is the only one that can stand firmly before Fergie or even Mourinho.
Budashow
21 May 2012 14:12:06
Get Guus Hiddinck in to make our lads spit blood and get us back to glory.
21 May 2012 14:08:30
Confirmed! Late last night Mouriniho!!David deins agreed to take Ian Cottons old role.Then them fookin birds and dawn chorus woke me up!
21 May 2012 14:06:49
Soo guys CALM DOWN a little bit!
We all know Pep has turned down two attempts from Mr Abramovich himself to join Chelsea, because he wants to take a year off.
So Pep joining us was never going to happen... he wants a year off. PUT!
About Jürgen Klopp:
He also rejected a previous attempt from Chelsea earlier this year and he has stated numerous times that he loves life at Dortmund and won't change clubs in the near future!
So, no desaster that he turned us down, too.
And Frank de Boer has said exactly the same about joining Barca a few weeks ago as he has today about Liverpool.
So why should he want to move to Liverpool when he doesn't want to join Barca.
Again really nothing to complain about.
So the only one I'm a little bit disappointed that he rejected us is Brendan Rodgers.
But who knows... as Macca suppose the owners want him and maybe are able to convince him to join us.
Otherwise Liverpool Football Club is always able to attract big name and world class managers.
And if all attempts fail...
we still have the chance to bring Rafa back, who really is a decent backup choice.
Cheers
Phil
Good post Phil. I actualy remain excited to see what will happen.
Rodgers only turned down the chance to talk to us because he knows we are speaking to many different managers and his chances are thin, and he doesnt want to publically admit he wants the job only to be turned down. Would he reject the approach if he was the only one being asked ? Of course not.
Good times ahead. Everyone just needs to keep the faith.
Red G
So Red G your staying excited while LFC are in a bit of turmoil with manager's knocking us back and rookie manager's with hardly any experience top of our wish list yet your excited by it all? These owner's need to get the right man for the job otherwise it's back to square1 and they'll just keep losing more money! and that is not viable for FSG! In Rafa we trust!
Yes exactly Red G!
We need to keep faith in the owners because all they want is to bring us back to the top of Europe/ world! Because that's the only way they can make profit out of their "Liverpool project".
We will get a new manager, he will get funds and the money from player sales to restructure the squad a little bit in his own way. We just need to keep faith and the glory days will return!
Phil
21 May 2012 14:03:26
People are going on about the owners as we were led to believe they were The Dogs as business men.Ok can argue over Kennys departure either way.But basic logic says you sound out a man and agent,(real world we know it goes on)and have someone lined up before you bin Kenny.The fact people are openly turning us down,isnt that 3/4 now?,Says Scatter gun panic has been Fenways policy.And we were led to believe they were classy operators.THATS why people are anxious,frustrated/annoyed!!
You would rather they have gone behind peoples backs recruiting someone whilst kenny was in charge and it would have likely been leaked to the press undermining the end of season. They have actually gone about it the right way
Poster above lives in 1820s
21 May 2012 13:59:54
Ed's.. In your opinion, should we be expecting the appointment of a new manager this week? I see that many of the "candidates" have already ruled themselves out of the running..(klopp,rodgers,de boer) Personally I'm growing more and more excited about the possibility of AVB. Young,hungry,lots to prove, fits the FSG mold for the future. As an american, I think everyone needs to be patient with FSG and realize that they will get us back to the top but as I've said before Rome wasn't built in a day and this is just the beginning of the foundation being put in place. Have faith and walk on fellow Reds.
phillyRED {Ed001's Note - probably not this week, no, hard to be sure but it is more likely to drag on throughout this week due to the number of people they have or are trying to interview.}
21 May 2012 13:56:58
Rafa would bleed for us! He has the passion to drive us to the top again!
Or destroy us even more. Don't look back for the love of god!
We must look forward with a NEW manager!
Agree.... if you cut him open he would bleed red! {Ed001's Note - in that case why not give the job to Jason McAteer? He loves the club too. Or Rob Jones? Or Brad Pitt or Liam Neeson or or... Love for the club should be irrelevant in this.}
The 'bleed red' thing was actually a joke Ed! Long day filtering our posts is it?!?! {Ed001's Note - well I was going to say about how Terry would bleed red first off.....}
Ed, no it shouldn't.
Most people bleed red, if not please see your Dr urgently!.
21 May 2012 13:55:29
No mention of De Boer. He is much better than AVB.
He has rejected us
21 May 2012 13:47:41
How poor have we gone lately.
Its so embarassing, Brendan Rodgers turning us down WTF !
Klopp turning us down ?
Its woeful
If united needed a manager they would get a world class one in a day. We have to pursue the likes of Martinez, what has actually happened to our club
I actually think there is some sort of curse on us, we are so awful atm im gutted.
LTP
Not so sure United would, not many managers woudl be confident of following Ferguson.
United would have identified their man and sounded him out months before Fergie retires (Fergie would probably have an input on who the next manager should be) United wouldn't arse about interviewing a short list of people as long as my arm, that's for sure.
Remember when Fergie was talking about retirement donkeys years ago? Peter Kenyon had already tapped up Sven Goran-Eriksson to replace him. However, Fergie decided to stay on at Utd and the rest is history.
21 May 2012 13:46:20
I don't know why there is so much surprise on here about the possibility of Suarez moving on. The Suarez/Evra affair did a lot of damage to the Liverpool brand, which is possibly Liverpool's greatest asset at the moment (even Chelsea and Man City cannot buy the worldwide reputation of Liverpool and Man Utd), and FSG will do all they can to protect that brand. With the manager and director of communications both gone, it surely cannot be a surprise is Suarez follows them out of the door, so as to finally draw a line under the issue. Losing Suarez would be a shame, but he'll be replaced by quality. You don't need CL football to buy quality players, as Newcastle showed (as have Spurs in previous seasons). If Suarez goes, so be it, but it won't be because FSG are destroying Liverpool. It would only be if they felt it would be in the clubs interests long term.
21 May 2012 13:44:48
Eds, is join barnes still in the process of suing lfc? & who is he actually suing & why? {Ed001's Note - no idea sorry.}
Ef I ask because during my coaching badge course we had a.evening on emergency first aid the physio said that barnes, fowler, owen and a couple of others were forced to play injured!
21 May 2012 13:42:27
I think some of us are getting the wrong impression regarding the 'rejections' we're getting. Managers who are currently successful with their own teams have too much to loose by going public on accepting an interview with LFC. Their credibility will be gone with their club if they don't get the job and they will seriously hesitate taking on such a massive task in stepping into KK's esteemed boots. It could be a move which would ruin their career if they weren't successful.
Essentially only a manager with enough confidence to know they can get the results necessary will be interested which, IMO, excludes Rodgers, Martinez and even AVB. I suspect the appointed manager will surprise us....we should know by the end of this week.
solidair
21 May 2012 13:41:36
FOR MACCA:
Hi mate I've keenly kept a lookout for your rumours over the last 12 months or so & would like to just ask as you you seem to be close to the playing squad - how would the players feel about the return of Rafa?...
Due to the acrimonious parting of ways would some of the senior players be completely against it or for it?
Thank you,
SL
21 May 2012 13:35:55
eds who would you rather have as liverpool manager rodgers or martinez {Ed001's Note - neither.}
21 May 2012 13:32:45
rodgers will NOT be joining liverpool
He does right too as the Liverpool job is as about appealing as Susan Boyle at the moment.
21 May 2012 13:28:34
All you guys are going on about needing a big name manager to succeed KK. This is not necessarily the case, a manager does not have to be a big name - just the right man for the job. It's up to owners, directors etc to identify that man. In defence of my statement I offer the following.
Bill Shankly managed Grimsby and Workington before LFC.
Bob Paisley had never managed anybody.
Joe Fagan managed Nelson before he came to LFC.
KK in his first spell was player manager at first - no previous experience.
None of these guys were big name managers (KK was as a player only at the time) but they were the right men at the right time and they were responsible for all the glory years that we like to look back to.
The next manager needs to be like these guys - the right man at the right time.
I was glad when KK came back, but lets be honest this year the club went backwards. 2010/11 we got 58 points and that included the part of the season that RH was in charge. The owners looked for an improvement this season and I think they would have stuck with Kenny had they got it. But they didn't, 6 points worse than last year and KK was in charge all season. Worst home record for years and even Blackburn, Fulham and Norwich scored more, thank goodness for one of the meanest defences in the league (only the two Mancs conceded less). No, sorry as I was, the owners made the right decision. It just goes to prove the old saying - never go back - and that brings me to my final point which is that would apply to Rafa as well. Yes he had success and bought a lot of the current team, but he bought a lot of dross (nearly 80 players signed in 5 years and we don't have a good in depth squad) and it was Rafa who p****d Alonso off so he went back to Spain.
We need a new man - whoever it may be - we need to be realistic - Mourinho isn't going to come running - and we need to get behind him - preferably without a hatchet in our hands.
Monty the Red
Monty the red you do understand time and game has change if any average manager will losr2/3 games he will be slashed. With fans wanting the owners to pack and leave coz they underestimated the job or have no clue what they are against(task) we have tried. cheap options before and it has taken its toll coz we fans know what we need to challenge and fsg are typical american owners who want to achieve champion league on cheap which will never happen
21 May 2012 13:29:30
Macca
Do you think that was the owners position prior to Rodgers turning us down or their continued position on him to be their number one choice?
Cheers
p.s I believe Ayre has hurt our chances of getting any top manager by intimating that 2 cups wins and no CL will be classed as failure.
Everyone knew that the CC cup alone was not good enough.People have been bleating for months that it was our worst season for ages then when the owners take action they bleat again.Some people are never happy unless they have something to moan about.
21 May 2012 13:25:51
Marseille just won the league with a new manager. They were up against big spending PSG - like we are up against the likes of City and Chelsea. As long as we select the right manager who brings in the the best players at the right price...there's hope for us still...no need to worry!!
Marseille finished 10th. Montpellier won the league. Big difference
Montpellier won the league
I thought it was montpellier that won ?
Montpellier Not Marseille
Montpellier won the league Marseille finished 10th
Waro
Marseille finished 10th, montpellier are the team you are thinking of
NZL_red
Marseille?? I am sure you mean Montpellier...
A sensible ,open minded post at last.Thank you.
CR
You will find that it is actually Montpellier who won the French League.
AG
No they didnt montpelier won the lge
21 May 2012 13:15:53
best possible outcome for liverpool. TOTTENHAM face an uphill struggle to hang on to Gareth Bale, modric
At least lfc have a better chance of beating tottenham next year.
...whilst we face an uphill struggle to hang on to Luis Suarez & Martin Skrtel and have no manager or leadership whatsoever.
21 May 2012 13:15:12
Hi Eds & Macca,
Just in relation to Macca's post ref Brendan Rogers.Macca says he's the man we want but he has openly said he doe not want to leave Swansea. Now if he has had a change of heart, do we really want him? For me if you turn down LFC and then have a change of heart, your ship has sailed.
In relation to Rogers, Klopp and De Boer, they are young managers who achieved relative success at their clubs and feel as if they owe the clubs for backing them. Fair enough.
Personally, as i've said before i'd love to see us go for someone experienced like Van Gaal. A proven winner with good record of developing younger players.
For me AVB and Martinez could be a very expensive gamble, both maybe young managers, but not as tactically astute as Van Gaal.
Your views?
Rebel_Red
At this key point in our club's history (seems to have been a lot of them over the last couple of years!), and whilst I appreciate results are never guaranteed, a proven manager of the highest calibre is a must as far as I'm concerned. Rogers has clearly done a good job and seems a fine man but his job must be taken in context in that it was the previous incumbent that set the team up and that he only has one year's experience in the top flight
Squirrel
21 May 2012 13:21:12
Hi Eds,
Apologies if this has been covered already, but is Jose Mourinho definately a non-starter? I can think of many reasons why this job would appeal to him...
1) EGO: The challenge of restoring LFC to former glories will appeal to the mans ego, much more than simply continuing where other managers have left off at other clubs.
2) AVAILABILITY: The 2 clubs who would have been his likliest suitors are Man City and Chelsea. Neither of these will be replacing their managers in the forseeable future. Arsenal, Spurs & Man United wont be replacing their managers either.
3) RAFA: He would love to succeed where Rafa failed at LFC as well as Inter!
4) PREM LEAGUE: He has openly stated that he wants to come back to England and take on a long term project to put an end to his travels round Europe.
5) MADRID SUCCESS: He has now won the La Liga title to add to Portugese, English and Italian titles, which was his number 1 aim (first manager to win titles in 4 countries). Adding one more Euro Cup to Madrid's list of 10 is not his burning ambition.
6) BARCELONA: He has defied logic and beaten Barcelona to the title this season. He knows they will be back stronger next season in the League and Champs league. He could leave Madrid this year on a high.
7) LFC: Our club has a magic and aura that suits his persona and a long term project to offer. FSG can also offer transfer funds to get him started and Im convinced they can give him a suitable salary.
I just dont think we should be so hasty in discounting him. If FSG say they are here to win, there would be no bigger statement they could make.
For the sake of balance, the arguments against.... Liverpool isnt London, high salary and a lack of Champs League in year one.
Any comments Eds? Is it really that unrealistic from your inside sources? Has his name even come up?
Cheers
Red G {Ed002's Note - He is a non-starter.}
Oh well, if he is definately a non-starter, the best result I think we can hope for now is MICHAEL LAUDRUP.
Thanx for a good post. I am for one believe Jose would be the best option. You may question his personality but quality-wise he's in a class of his own.
Nikki
21 May 2012 13:20:34
Frank de Boer doesn't want the Liverpool job it seems.
I'm starting to think we might just end up with Rafa as manager again; if only for the reason that everyone else - for whatever reason - seems to be turning us down. Soon there'll be no one left to ask but Rafa.
LFC Pedro
21 May 2012 13:08:12
So Brendan Rodgers and Jurgen Klopp didnt even want to talk to us last week, Today De Boer says he doesnt want to talk to us either. Biesla will not leave Bilbao to come to us, When Llorente was asked in an interview what he thought of Biesla coming to Liverpool he literally laughed out loud into the camera and said ''Why would he go there?''
We are gonna be stuck with either Rafa or Martinez
Also, Suarez has today denied that he has had talks with Barcelona and Real Madrid
Steve
Suarez will 100% leave
Suarez will 100% stay
tel 1949
Nah id have to agree that i think Luis will be on his way, Our club is in a bad way
Dub-L-43
Sad to say but i think Suarez will be gone this summer, Our club is like a circus, Gerrard and Carragher are another year older and slower now, stevie is more injury prone than ever, Suarez will go i think, Bad times... OwenRed
I am 100% certain that one of you is 100% right.
RedOz
21 May 2012 13:02:27
AVB is a bad option for me. For a good few years Chelsea have been renowned as a difficult team to break down. Solid at Stamford Bridge. When AVB took charge they began to look weaker and beatable.
Don't want take a step back but Rafa is looking the best bet at the moment.
Nothing to do with the age of the team then
Well when AVB was in charge of Chelsea, Chelsea scored more goals than they are doing now with Di Matteo.
And also they had a higher rank in the league.
Not saying Di Matteo is a bad manager
but we really need to do more goals right?
I think we should go with AVB, have patience and just get behind and support him.
IF he's get choosen ofc..
Rafa looked the best from the start!
21 May 2012 12:59:59
Sick of people goin on about these owners. We were at the point of nearly going into administration!! Kenny may not have won the prem or got high up but two cup finals and he's got us back to basics, I much prefer being in the position we are now then 2 years ago
Ye because FSG came in to do us a favour really, they did it because they have always been die hard kopites and couldn't stand to see us in the position we were in. Oh...oh....no wait they saw the turmoil that was going on involving RBS and saw the chance to grab a cash cow premier league club on the cheap! Don't make out FSG CAME TO OUR RESCUE they came because they saw $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. you tit
Waro
So we stay where we are,content with what weve got then? You dont want to move forward?gr8
We need some ruthless businessmen running the club. Not destructive ruthless, but constructive - the type who will get rid of underperforming players and managers at the stroke of a pen.
Diehard kopites would have Rafa and Kenny installed for ever, tell everyone who disagrees to "go support City", and get the club relegated.
21 May 2012 12:59:57
The way people are turning us down or not wanting to speak to us it looks like we will have to pick one from the likes of Mick McCarthy, Steve Bruce, Avram Grant, Alan Curbishley or even Joe Kinnear. What a choice! Who do you fancy?
Alex mcleish
They're all too ugly for me, even after a few pints lad.
McSnuggles
21 May 2012 12:49:45
Macca...... Rodgers... RODGERS...REALLY? ...and just what players from abroad know of a Mr Brenden Rodgers when they are told he is our manager? WE ARE LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB, WE SHOULD BE GOING FOR THE BEST MANAGER OUT THERE, and in my honest opinion, Rodgers isn't even on the same page. Jesus wept. Its GOT to be the likes of AVB, De Boer or even Rijkaard.
Stevie, living in hope...
Rodgers or martinez transfer for next season falcao, soldado, gaston ramirez etc etc to bring champipns league football back ha ha ha the owners have scr*wed us big time
How have they screwed us when they bought us when we were could have been taken into administration?!
Rikjaard will NEVER manage for FSG and will never manage for Liverpool. That's an end of.
McSnuggles
21 May 2012 12:54:36
If gone past caring who the manager is going to be. I just hope whoever they are, they are not a defensive long ball type manager. I think the far more important posistion is the director of football posistion, I hope whoever we get is experienced.
21 May 2012 12:53:23
It's becoming explicitly clear that no one knows whats going on at LFC at the moment. Rumours are flying about as the media have to sell papers/ need something to do. We will have to be patient and just hope they make a good choice. However, i have a feeling that there will be some announcements this week, unlikely to be at about the manager though.sbs3em.
21 May 2012 12:47:42
If Rodgers is playing hard to get, then we does not want him!!
In old days you simply did not say no to Liverpool FC. What has happend?
DanielDenmark
The last 20 years mate, thats whats happened.
21 May 2012 12:47:22
JRG, you replied to my post earlier about Di Matteo's record at west brom and what he has now done at Chelsea, you cannot seriously be using that as an example for the case of Martinez surely?? Right man in the right place at the right time, the team he has just won these cups with are binning him as manager so what does that tell you? There really are some clueless people on this site lar, what colour is the sky on your planet JRG??
Waro
Ok, what had the following managers won before they were given 'top jobs'?
Bill Shankly
Pep Guardiola
Frank Rijkaard
Roberto Di Matteo
Kenny Dalglish
You said Martinez shouldn't get the job as he has only managed small clubs, well if the club had always followed your logic we would never have got Shankly as manager.
And if you read my post I said "I'm not saying give Martinez the job but you cannot dismiss him simply because he hasn't won any major honours"
This would include any potential candidate.
JRG
21 May 2012 12:45:25
First Brendan Rogers refused to talk to us. Now Frank de Boer doesnt want the job. What is happening. You would think managers would be queueing up for the job. WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR CLUB?
Mad aint it mate LTP
21 May 2012 12:45:20
Just spoken to a work colleague, he spent the weekend with a member of the legal team that presided over the takeover. He said he has people that know AVB, he has not been approached but has stated that he would jump at the chance if he was asked. He also said that sources close to the club are saying that Suarez is defo leaving. (this is the same source that told me about David Dein going to matches way back when & he was spot on then)
Um no
21 May 2012 12:43:44
One thing people need to remember is Liverpool are not the only club without a manager, Chelsea and notably Barca are both on the lookout for a new manager and i'm sure some candidates on FSG's shortlist have those jobs in mind. De Boer apparently has turned the job down which is no surprise as has just started at Ajax, i'm sure he turned down another job not too long ago.
Whats interesting is so many fans are taking sources like Sky Sports and the papers as the gospel truth, surely as Liverpool fans we should all know not to trust the media, especially those owned by Murdoch.
The owners have upset many with their dismissal of Kenny (me included) but they have a huge opportunity no to appoint their own man but they must get it right. They seem to be focusing to much on age for me, i personally don't think the likes of Martinez, Rodgers or AVB are ready for the job.
Just look at the success Montpellier have had the past 2 seasons, it is possible with the right appointment Liverpool can move forward and quickly.
I do think Rodolfo Borrell should be at least offered the job else we may lose him much the same way Barca did.
always a red
Why sack your manager now and so publicly. Why not hire someone first and then move the manager into the boardroom.
Tom Werner ego is unbelievable (guy is a nut case)
Barca have manager
Barca are not looking for manager they always promote they own people rather then run,run and run for new manager like FSG what a joke
Barcelona aren't looking for a manager. I thought tito villanova is going to be there new manager?
Your right Barca do have a manager, my bad
always a red
21 May 2012 12:36:42
If they sign Rogers it will make us the laughing stock of the football world. Which big or even semi big name players would want to play for an unknown like him!!
FSG OUT
Maybe you should try to keep up...Rodgers has already ruled himself out...several days ago.
FSG out?? They were the white knights that rescued us from Hicks & Gillet seriously reducing the debt in the process...and now you want them out...based on what??
FSG bankrolled purchases last summer--it's not their fault the scouting staff and management in place made pathetically poor decisions and the players underperformed. If anything, FSG can only be faulted for not firing the scouting staff.
They have done the right thing--sentiment aside, KK had to go because the results were terrible. FSG have aspirations for regular CL play (which is the correct focus as it gives us the revenue stream we need). Remember, when we were regulars in that competition well, FSG want us to return to those days--good for them for being ready to make whatever changes are needed to secure that goal.
FSG out??...and replaced by whom??...try thinking before your post...idiot!
Bailed us out!! They bought us cheap, spent just a net 37 million in two seasons. They are no knights in shining armour. Before anyone goes on about fairplay and conservative spending, let me tell you we will see a European Super League if they even try and enforce that on the big clubs. Across Europe the majority of big clubs are in heavy debt and have no intention of playing by the fir play rules. You mark my words, if Liverpool do not sort themselves out soon they will not be part of that elite group and that will be the end of the club.
21 May 2012 12:36:00
Have to say found the Ian Ayre article on the LFC website interesting, he says he has spoken to all the senior players and does not see a problem with them wanting to leave. He also says over the next couple of weeks we will see some people coming in that will drive us on, and from the way he says it, it sounds like he allready knows who is coming. He says Commolis jobs are to be shared out and then there is something I picked up on, He states- "I wouldn't go as far as to say the manager's job will only be a training ground role but absolutely the idea is to create a structure so that the manager doesn't need to focus on too much else.
He does go on to say they wont bring in a player without the Managers input, but I think the role is about to become more of coaches position.
I wonder what Shanks would have made about this idea?
21 May 2012 11:43:56
So Rafa, Champions league winner and finalist, FA cup winner and our highest PL position sacked, Roy Hodgson PL manager of the season previously, sacked then came back to do beat us and get the England job. KK club icon wins a trophy and takes us to a final in his first full season back sacked.
No further progress on a stadium and now we are looking at getting a manager in whos team were so bad for most of the season he needed a massive winning run towards the ned to get them out of trouble, actually pretty much the opposite of our season and hardly the consistency we need.
And now we are to believe that they had decided to sack Kenny ages ago? So they flew him all the way out to America in front of the worlds press to do it?
I'm sorry but that makes no sence, as does not having a replacement ready to go if infact the decision was planned a while ago.
And lets be honest about Suarez, the only reason we have a player that good is because of the baggage he brings, if he was an angel we would have been priced out of the market for him. We cant keep selling our top players if we have any dreams of improving.
FSG did'nt sack Rafa!
21 May 2012 11:43:44
I never thought I would see the day when 'potential ' managers would reject LFC!.
If this is what 'managerial candidates' think of the club, can you imagine what the LFC players are thinking, and by the same token our transfer targets, ita a absolute shambles at LFC.
FSG as a direct conswquence of their 'rash' and idiotic actions, lack of vision, and inability to 'push through' initiatives (stadium etc), have done more damage to LFC than the whole 'Saurez affair' every did.
FSG you are abslutely clueless about what this club really needs, and your arrogance and stupidity is causing incredible damage, think its time for you to pack your bags and leave.
LFC need owners who know what they are doing, not a bunch of 'muggs' from Boston!.
Pot Calling the Kettle Black!!!
Lyndon
Clown!
You actually think FSG have done more harm to the Club than the Suarez "affair"
The handling of it Maybe. But one person is solely to blame for that Hero or not!!
FSG have done well to get any sponsorship/endorsements after that whole affair
Lyndon {Ed001's Note - FSG have to shoulder some of the blame for the Suarez affair, they are supposed to be the media experts, yet they stood by and watched as Liverpool floundered.}
Potential managers reject the club because of so called supporters like you, with support like yours who would want to come to the club knowing that one or two losses would see the chants of "bring kenny back", "bring rafa back", "yanks out" !!!!
I fully agree ed1
But Suarez was responsible for the whole episode. Granted the handling of the affair was poor by Fenway.
You obviously have more knowledge and info than myself. But should we not turn on them as quickly as some are.
At worst I think they have been badly advised and nothing more sinister!!
Lyndon {Ed001's Note - I am not suggesting we turn on them, I am just disappointed that they are laying the blame at the door of others, rather than accepting that they should have taken the lead in this area.}
Well said Ed01.
FSG are just as respomsible in the whole Suarez affair.
You are soo very right, they stood back and did nothing.
I have to be honest, I think they have taken on a project that is too big for them, they seem 'unsure and unsteady', and if anything indecisive, procrastinating!.
I am not convinced that they are the owners LFC need!.
I am very concerned about the clubs lack of direction, ambition, and leadership, and ability to 'action' initiatives.
Worried fan.
Ps, your thoughts, would you consider Stuart Pearce. {Ed001's Note - I disagree, they are being badly advised, in my opinion, but I still think they will get it right eventually. As for Pearce, I wouldn't spit on that *censored* if he was on fire. He is an imbecile who should have been drummed out of football as soon as his career ended before he messes up other people's careers with him lack of any kind of intelligence.}
Wasn't saying you were Ed1
Other posters
Lyndon {Ed001's Note - I realised that, just thought I would clarify for anyone who did think so.}
Stuart Pearce!!
He plays the worst football imaginable!!
He's ruined the under 21s
Lyndon
It is a time-tested American management approach to hire people, and let them get on with it.
The owners hired Comolli, Kenny, and Ayre to run the club, and they were let down - by both the Suarez incident, and the spending of transfer funds.
The flip-side of this management approach is that you give people enough rope with which to hang themselves. If they had stepped in to intervene during the season, the Kenny brigade would have been in an uproar, charging them with undermining him.
Instead, they waited until season was over, and then culled. FSG played it in an intelligent manner, I think.
I thought that Ed01, my apologies for being hasty for that last comment, forgive me :)
StrabaneRed {Ed001's Note - no worries mate, we all say things in the heat of the moment.}
Pearce is a poor manager agreed.... but the man's a legend, plus he's from near me in London so no name calling Ed001 or I'll have to get psycho to give you a visit.
For fear of repeating myself agree with ed001 again, disappointed FSG haven't taken the bull by the horns with the media thing... most Americans I work with would do exactly that. I believe (hope) FSG get the manager decision right because so far it has been a bit of a circus ...
Richards {Ed001's Note - get him to, his comments in his autobiography about Hillsborough were disgusting. He is all that is wrong with English football, attitude over ability.}
FSG got LFC on the 'cheap', so what value has been added since.
Certainly not 'squad value'.
Think FSG should buy 'football club ownership and management for dummies', it may help them.
This is not Baseball, or Motor racing, its footballb.
21 May 2012 11:40:55
Macca,
you say that the owners really want Brendan Rodgers, but according to the reports coming out in the press, Rodgers has come out and declined the opportunity to speak to us.
Do you mean that he still is in the frame and there have been some developments?
I am not doubting your info but just want to clarify.
YNWA!
Regards,
Ashish (fan from India)
21 May 2012 11:38:44
thx for the latest info macca i must say i would be delighted with rodgers unlike most fickle liverpool fans as he plays very attractive attacking football, look what hes done with swansea,,, if he does get the job he will have my full backing and i hope he gets the players playing the same style as the swans...... and before all you so called fans stat saying hes rejected us yes he has because he doesnt want to alienate swans fans incase he dont get the job, if he is offered th job im sure he would come.
21 May 2012 11:36:38
Frank De Boer told me on Sat it would be a "bad example" if he left Ajax for Liverpool. "Already made a promise to them". @BBCSport
@Iandennisbbc
then we should not blame him as he want to be loyal to his present club.
zr
21 May 2012 12:30:39
eds, do you think Brendan Rodgers would be a good choice as Liverpool manager? {Ed002's Note - I think he could do a good job - he was very well liked at Chelsea and did well.}
Yes, but will he get us top 4 in one go? Or will Fsg move the goalposts if they get thier own man in? Is it worth the risk to Rodgers to probably be unemployed next summer and maybe not get a big job for a long time because of his failure?
I still maintain that what Fsg had asked Kenny to do & any other manager there after is completely unrealistic.
The Irish Rover
21 May 2012 12:30:25
such cheap owners. they will sell anyone they will sack anyone.
its all for the money.
How can sacking anyone be about money? Do you know how much it costs to sack a manager 1 year into a 3 year contract?
ALOT!
SA
SA
It didnt cost the owners 1p
Kenny gave the compo to the transfer kitty.
LTP
Not when the manager gives the money to terminate his contract back to LFC to spend on the team.
Roy Hodgson! Damien Comolli! Ian Cotton!
SA
And FSG knew Kenny would do this before sacking him? And they gave him 110 million to spend because they are cheap?
Sorry I realised I put manager instead of anyone, but you get my point.
SA
21 May 2012 12:30:25
If that's true wot macca says about king Kenny then I'm 150% glad that he gone from being manager .Liverpool maybe in his blood i dont want the job to make him unwell because ov stress that can cause so much at that age in life he got his family not just his lfc one to think ov good luck I'm sure he be back in sum way at the club he has to be the club owe him that job for life trust wot you say macca maybe your a little to honest thats why your info is not 100 % because you seem to pass on every thing you hear which I glad about but sum simple minded people jump on sum times maybe you been to spot on in past that you got be 100% right 4 years b4 it happens in any case got next weeks lottery numbers m8 ha worth I try keep up good work macca and eds and all those who try to pass on any thing to do with lfc long live the king YNWA lfc linc
21 May 2012 12:29:34
Whats the ED's opinion on AVB? Not saying i want him to get the job just want to know whats your take on him? A few different interviews from Chelsea players saying he's a bad man manager and doesnt work well with alot of the players, it wouldnt be hard with all the big egos's on their team tho..
CJHred {Ed002's Note - This has been answered.}
21 May 2012 12:26:17
have liverpool just management just created the worst job in football.
Why would someone want to manage a team that will sack them within a year. If kenny couldn't do it why would rogers do any better.
We're a mid-table team without the financial muscle, management structure, coaching staff, players to fit the expectations of fans and owners.
in short the owners are cheap.
Isn't Chelsea doing the same? Sack the manager if he doesn't get any trophie?
Cheap & Cheerful, like chips
In all seriousness though, you need to be in the super rich bracket to own and successfully run a top flight club
Henry though rich is in the ppor part of the super rich with a fortune about 80 times less than the man city Sheik
Henry's plan for LFC is a dangerous one and one that could easily jump up to bite him if the next manger is a turd.
The good ship Liverpool looks set for troubled water.
I have seen american companies take over other european companies with terrible results their brand of management just does not work as planned they usually sell up and move on.
Maybe that's the future
The fans have a part to play mate ,we have too high expectations for any manager to live up to and even Kenny had doubters right from the off. I think whoever does come in needs headphones and very thick skin and not pay too much attention to the fans, senior players
(Roy Hodgson ffs ! and whispers they now want Rafa back. Maybe they want the knife back from between his shoulder blades) or the legions of ex players who were lucky enough to play for us for a couple of seasons and now they make a living putting the boot in on the club they claim to care so much about while still picking up their free tickets. Pity we can't attract Jose as he pulls the draw bridge up and galvanises the team and fans. I'm going for Mick McCarthy ;)
ok for the slower ones , thats a joke, AVB's a shoe in as the yanks say
21 May 2012 12:25:13
is it just me or dose no one else want AVB
There are at least three of us, assuming you didn't agree your own post
Squirrel
21 May 2012 12:23:09
I love reading this site with all the rumours and the rediculous stories of who we might sign, or the new manager is? Crazy! Whats really interesting is the replies by the Ed's and Macca''s. Which read, I don't know of any interest, Probably not, Doubt it. Ive not heard of anything. There was interest a year ago. Oh and the best one "Kenny will be given another year"!. Basically no one has any idea! LOL, Great fun though.
21 May 2012 12:21:08
Rodgers sounds like a woman playing hard to get.
Oh dear.
I hope your information is wrong Macca?
21 May 2012 12:18:22
Moyes,oneill anyone?
For me O'Neill we need a Stern manager to see us thorogh this period and none come better equipped to do this than O'Neill, however some may not like him, he's british, knows the EPL and won't take **** from players or owners alike.
21 May 2012 12:17:56
At this rate we'll be down to Basset,Sanchez,Warnock,and fat Sam.
Bertier Bassett has ruled himself out of the LFC job he said he would take ALLSORTS of jobs but the LFC hotseat is a step too far
21 May 2012 12:17:27
André Villas-Boas will be the new manager of Liverpool before next week. Almost certain.
Hope it's just rumours rather than a straight dope
Nikki
21 May 2012 12:13:33
The Express seem pretty certain it's AVB.
The more I think about, unless FSG pull a major name out of the bag, the more I want Rafa back. Tactically sound manager who constantly delivered for us, until the former owner ripped it all apart.
AVB would be my 2nd choice of those realistically available.
Eds what sort of transfer kitty would AVB want. I am guessing his next appointment is massive given his spell at Chelsea, and therefore is not going to walk into a job with limited funds and risk his reputation further. {Ed002's Note - I would not expect his demands would extend to a particular value of transfer kitty.}
MAybe not but AVB would want some sort of Transfer Kitty oytherwise TOP 4 Cannot be achieved the current squadis too thread bare with no backup in important areas, if AVB did not see this then . . . Turn off the lights
21 May 2012 12:11:50
Graham Turner's done an amazing job to get Shrewsbury promoted and as a man who has Wirral connections, i think he deserves his chance at the highest level at Liverpool. We have to be realistic, we're not going to be able to attract Capello etc, even Brendan Rogers turned us down
21 May 2012 12:11:24
I have been coming to this site for about 3 -4 transfer windows ...the information is usually spot on ..however this year it seems that the eds just seem to disprove stuff without actually telling us what IS going on ...surely there must be sum noise coming out of liverpool with everything thats goin on ..its gettin tiresome justing hearing whats not going on ..how about u tell us what is going on ..this is football rumours is it not ....YNWA {Ed002's Note - What is going on is that Liverpool are looking to bring in some new staff most notably a Director of Football and Manager/Head Coach. To be honest I am surprised that you have not picked up on this. Until then I suspect any senior transfers will be on hold.}
What a Spanner
Not Even FSG know whats happening
The Drama at LFC is being played out by EAR by the day, there's no real plan except to change everything in the structure of the club and take advice from David Dein
Do'snt that show ya that the owner's hav'nt got a clue!
21 May 2012 12:01:13
So basically its between AVB and Roberto Martinez..(everyone else seem not ready for the club). And Rafa is not contacted. Well if martinez is in charge, i wonder if its just going to be another Roy Hodson Era. Supporters will always be watching him. Couple of losses early on and hes gone. Also, dont see any big players would want to see under him. Its a huge step back. AVB on the other hand is young, inexperienced. Although would command more respect.
You cannot compare the two.. Hodgson has a grotesque style.. Martinez likes attractive fast direct football.. Liverpool supporters didn't like Hodgson cos of that reason alone
21 May 2012 12:02:22
There seem to be a lot of doom mongers around. We have got rid of our manager who the owners did not thinkcould take the club to the next level. They wish to appoint a new manager and are considering ALL options available to them. They want to be successful and I am going to trust in their judgment in making a new appointment whenever that comes. In the meantime we should not read too much into the fact they are speaking to individuals (who fall into the up and coming young managers category) such as Martinez and Rodgers. When they conduct the interviews they will be able to see who is up to the job of managing one of the biggest names in world football and who isn't.
I am very sure that whoever gets the job, they will be worthy of it.
21 May 2012 12:00:30
"torres" i have had the worst moments of my life at chelsea... and not starting the cl final was horrible for him appartently ..haha bertrand played more than you ya muppet glad we got rid of ya for a cool 50mil..
21 May 2012 12:00:14
A Rafa return would make my day, week and Summer. Yeah i said it. He oversaw an amazing period of the club and i strongly believe he would come back even stronger this time around, grabbing up some Spanish talent and making Anfield a fortress.
I'd sleep better knowing an obsessed would be dictator is in charge of the club i love, LFC. Fergie is a dictator at United, it's worked for them, Mourinho was a 'special' dictator at Chelsea, it worked very well for them. Wenger doesn't even let his lads eat Chicken skin!
Rafa fell in love with Liverpool, he did well for Liverpool, he moved the academy light years forward. He got us competing time and time again, head to head with Chelsea who at the time were near invincible, they'd most likely be on their 2nd or 3rd Champions League if it wasn't for Rafa's tactics. (Edd002 might see some truth in that last statement).
P.S. i have a strong dislike for Chelsea, but when Drogba smashed his header in Bayern's net, i went ballistic. I was watching it with a Tottenham supporting German lad, who was so confident going into the game that Bayern would win, that i was so glad to see Chelsea do them in their back yard and to see Bayern lose on Pens for the first time in the European cup.
In 5 years time when Chelsea fans are talking, typing or even singing about the time they conquered Europe in 2011/2012, they'll understand what it means and understand why we remember.
Macca wasn't lying either, Rafa is truly missed by many of the fans. He wants the job, knows the job, FFS Rafa is the job.
I wouldn't say "many fans", just the ones with selective memories...am I the only one that remembers the really boring football we played under him??
Hope you won't be disappointed if he's last on the list of candidates. Singred
Am I the only one who remembers going all throughout Europe and believing we could beat anyone?
Ash
The odd game we played boring (away from home) BUT do YOU REMEMBER HOW MANY GOALS WE SCORED? - Not so boring
The odd game we played boring?....really?....funniest thing I've read all week
21 May 2012 11:53:07
i like avb but mikel and lukaku have said that vilas boas spoke to them like crap
ian arye has already said that they will get a manager who gets on well with players ...
lw12
21 May 2012 11:34:11
Question for the Ed/s,-As a lot within the realms of Football is unknown re.Fenway.
That,combined with press negativity be it true or not,re.Fenways intentions.Aswell as fan expectation and the burden of History.Do you feel the TOP managers-de boer etc,now see LFC as a poisoned chalice? {Ed002's Note - No - but people like de Boer were never going to be interested - he said exactly the same about the Barcelona job recently.}
Ok thanks Ed
What de boer a TOP manager?
21 May 2012 11:34:07
In kennys FIRST season back.... get a life will you please. NO MANAGER IN HISTORY has won the league in his first season with a club
ps Kenny won it for Blackburn in his SECOND season....plus he had also won it with LFC ......a UK record methinks
Kenny should not have been sacked. FSG have made a hunongous mistake that could ultimately do HUGE damage to our club.
If the new manager doesnt get results FAS...the fans will leave in drones.... and that will be the end of FSG and our club
Sleep well John Henry..... you could just have made the biggest mistake of your life Im afraid
Tel 1949
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I just want to reply to this post by tel to another poster.
So then Tel 1949, Kenny fans are now the ones spitting thier dummies out of thier prams? A little ironic isn't it?
Considering all the s**t the "anti" - Kenny supporters have taken off all the blind Kenny followers.
Now you are the ones being petulant!
Criticizing everything about the owners just because they had the balls to sack a legend who wasn't capable of taking us to where we belong.
Just remember they saved our club from administration and possible relegation!
Get behind the owners!!
Clearly they want Liverpool up where they belong, otherwise they'd have stuck with Kenny and we'd be finishing 7-12th year after year.
I am glad kenny got sacked, I never wanted him back in the first place, and all the people who did want him back, (Well just look how that turned out).
I commend them for making the decision they did, and now I just hope the fans can butt out this time and let the owners get on with it. They don't need us fans to tell them how to do thier job!
Get behind the owners. And if and when the time comes they aren't the owners we thought they were, then by all means stand outside Anfield with your "FSG Out" flags!
1. "NO MANAGER IN HISTORY has won the league in his first season with a club"
You've never heard of Jose Mourinho have you?
2. "Kenny should not have been sacked"
Yes he should have.
3. "If the new manager doesnt get results FAS...the fans will leave in drones.... and that will be the end of FSG and our club"
Actually, after possibly the worst season of our clubs history I can honestly say our fanbase is doing just fine...People who have stopped supporting the club for ANY reason isn't a true fan anyway, so I wouldn't worry!
StrabaneRed {Ed002's Note - Ancelotti.}
Wenger won it in his 1st full season
5gold stars {Ed001's Note - but he inherited a squad that was already stronger than most of the rest, with that great back four.}
No one was expecting Kenny to win the league. Just not finish 8th. If we were challenging for top 4 then fair enough. But we weren't.
Ash
So after finishing the previous season 2nd in the league, and then spending £20m on Aquilani and £18m on Johnson, where were you expecting Liverpool to finish in 2009?
I bet 7th must have been a disappointment? If we were challenging for top 4 fair enough. But we weren't................
JRG
JRG, you really need to get your facts straight. Aqulani was not £20 million, much in the same way Henderson wasn't £20 million. Rafa was never allowed the spending power Kenny was (a net outlay of £0 or less in his last 3 seasons compared to Kenny's £30 mill +.)
And also, we were 7 points off top 4 under Rafa compared to 17 under Kenny. Hopefully, this will have cleared a few things up for you. 7 points off is a challenge, 17 points off is not.
Ash {Ed001's Note - Rafa wasn't allowed the spending power because the wage bill was so high. It was his own fault that he couldn't spend. If he had just kept that within manageable proportions, we wouldn't have been in trouble and he would have had cash to spend.}
Well Im sorry guys but anyone who is glad that Kenny was sacked after 16 months in the job and taking us to wembley 3 times, winning one cup and losing another by what could only be 5 mm............really needs to get their heads straight.
He was our manager and we should have supported him, not come on here complaining about stupid things.
Anyway, thats over now and the kenny out brigade have won.
lets move on, and whoever we get why dont the whingers JUST FOR ONCE, give the new guy some patience and time? Our club is built on the fact that the supporters are supposed to be so educated in these things.... at times I do worry.
We cannot have overnight success, we have to build on solid foundations then aspire to greatness.
this has always been the ethos of our club, and hopefully one day it will return
Tel 1949
By the way...Brian Clough won the league with two different clubs...Derby County and Notts Forest....!! Get the fact straight before you post!!
Killerpool
I agree with you on that Ed, but who the hell was letting him agree to these things? He's a football manager not an accountant! Why was there not a chief exec above him going "sorry Rafa, but that's just not financially viable"?
Ash {Ed001's Note - you can't tell Rafa these things though, that is when he goes on rants and airs the club's dirty linen and all the fans lap it up because they have no idea about finances.}
So finishing 7-points of 4th place is acceptable after spending the best part of £230m and taking 5-years to build a squad?
And it is because of the squad he assembled and left us with that we needed to spend so much money to replace the dross.
The team was heading in one direction under Rafa and everyone knew it, especially the players.
JRG
Now that's a post I can agree with Tel (Well most of it) :)
StrabaneRed
21 May 2012 11:30:34
Frank de Boer won't take Liverpool job.
why we ask a man to interview who have a job. why not Van Gaal, Capello and Hiddink who is free at the moment.
zr
Yea,Those and Ancelotti or Moyes forget the rest
I think Hiddink is @ Russian side of Anzhi. Or have I missed his departure?
21 May 2012 11:29:56
eds why does my stuff never get posted?
matt wollacott {Ed002's Note - I have not seen anything signed by you.}
21 May 2012 11:26:53
Nothing out of the ordinary has happened guys. some managers have ruled themselves out, so what? We must give the benefit of the doubt. Gutted to hear kenny was sacked but I realise if we get a manager who gets us winning consistently, all will be forgiven.
21 May 2012 11:23:38
all these rumours about players coming in are utter rubbish no players will be bought or sold until the new manager is in placce, any players that we scouted before kenny left we can disregard, why would we sign players before a manager arrives the new gaffer may not fancy these players and money will be wasted!
21 May 2012 11:17:30
i hope this about the owners want rodgers is not true because we cant go backwards
21 May 2012 11:00:52
Guardiola, Klopp, Rodgers and De Boer all not interested.
Capello and Laudrup been mentioned but don't know what's going on with them.
AVB, Rafa and Martinez all in with a shout.
Anyone else I'm missing or in with a shout?
Cheers,
Hassan
21 May 2012 10:58:59
anyone know if guardiola has actually turned us down yet? We must have approached him but havent heard anything bout it yet
21 May 2012 10:55:01
really cant see villas boas as the new coach, he didnt so well at chelsea and if he repeats at liverpool, it would be dire for his career. really have no idea who we should get, u cant really say who is better then who when it comes to managers, obviously man management brings out the best in players. but then its a mix of everything and culture at the club.
who ever they pick ill support as long as the show respect to the club.
aussiepool tristan
21 May 2012 10:51:25
Do people think the fact that Roberto Martinez was the 1st manager approached has put off other potential candidates?
Candidates who should have been top of the list, De Boer and Klopp, seemingly after thoughts have openly said no. Although they are in the process of building dynasties at their present clubs, surely we could persuade them to do the same at Liverpool?
Are FSG selling the club short when approaching targets?
The seemingly scatter gun approach undertaken may work in US sports, but the approach here to me shows they aren't sure who they want. Which begs the question why sack Kenny Dalglish when they don't know who they want to replace him?
Of the managers left who we seemingly haven't approached or not ruled themselves out a short list of Martinez, Lambert, AVB, Laudraup and Benitez may be the way forward.
RedSG
LOL
Martinez has them on the run, he's got in touch with men who have no necks and has would be takers for the Liverpool job scared.
21 May 2012 11:15:29
every one is talking about players coming and going but nothing will happen until the new manager is in place .
21 May 2012 11:13:02
jesus christ people take things very personal here ,, rodgers didn't come because hes comfortable with swansea and clearly hasnt got the jacobs to leave.. or its just loyalty.. de boer has said no too because hes only getting started with ajax and is doing very well why would he leave i wouldn't to start from scratch in another country.. maybe hes happy in holland and doesnt wanna live in england?.. and finally avb and rafa are still big names.. so chill out and stop slating avb,rafa and martinez because more than likely one will be managing lfc so dont give them a hard time before they even start.. every club is different..
lfc89
21 May 2012 11:12:35
Being as this is the banter page and there is a lot of speculation regarding Saurez, the new manager(whoever it will be) may have to replace him - the question is, with who? my 2 choices would be Ozil or Neymar.
This is purely banter and i just want people to add who they think is the player most able, and could possibly be available at the same price as we might expect to receive for him which is currently being bandied around @ £30-35m so Messi is out of the question.
There is no need to agree or disagree with this post and anyone who does so is a Twonk.
Are we going by fifa price tags ha
Actually neymar nearly moved to Chelsea 2 seasons ago for £20m so i don't consider it a fifa price tag and i dont even own a console or play any computer games as i have a major dislike for them
21 May 2012 11:12:11
LFC have had to remove their latest "tweet"
"Who do you want to replace Kenny Dalglish as LFC manager?"
within half hour of the post, it was removed.
"fans obviously misunderstood the context of the tweet"
due to angry comments, and reaction as it was to be used to gauge comments of preference amongst fans for LFC.TV.
Lesson learnt there then new communications guru!
Piddy.
I think this was probably Sarcastic/Ironic "humour" by whoever wrote the tweet.
Having a jag at the fact that it was virtually the fans who chose Kenny as the last manager and how that all turned out.
Maybe i'm reading too much into it? Who knows?
StrabaneRed
21 May 2012 11:09:10
it's getting embarrassing with all these managers rejecting to have talks with us! I mean brendan Rodgers even rejected, that's saying something.
Not our problem if these managers dont feel they are up to the challenge.. would rather they didnt interview and waste our time. Whoever takes the job on is going to have his back against the wall from the off.. so it has to be someone confident enough in himself to know he can do it!
ItsNotRocketScience
Your embarrassing people like you should not be a liverpool supporter go and support man city
21 May 2012 11:09:05
In the end, Benitez is likely to be the only big name manager who is available and wants the job.
It's gone quiet on Van Gaal.
Villas-Boas is a risky choice. Laudrup less so.
Forget about Martinez.
21 May 2012 11:06:52
For all those who wanted Kenny out!
Well have you noticed all these managers that are NOT interested in the job?
You want * and * doesn't want it. Funny how you can't support a manager we have, only to not have a plan B.
On a shortlist of managers it appears we are crossing them for the next guy.
So our 1st choice will actually be our 8th choice but we will glamour it as our 1st choice.
Well done those fickles
I never wanted KD out, I supported, didnt agree with results, tactics and certain players. I did state that the only person to damage KD would be KD himself. I find the situation we find ourselves in as a direct result of how FSG have gone about things is making us look even more of a laughing stock, than we have have been made to do recently. I was listening to the city footy show on Saturday and the comments about AVB whilst at Chelsea, and some of the things he did? It scared me whitless. I more worried now than I have even been. What ever happens now, god forbid could destroy us, as a team, club and our reputation and history.
I wanted to be wrong about KD, sadly I wasnt. I hope I am wrong about this, I really do.
Not only that but Kenny was the manager who loved the job and the club (its history, fans, etc.) and now we are going to give the job to a manager who probably does not have either feeling towards the club
Nice one - Not
I wanted Kenny to be pushed if he did'nt walk and i only wanted one man to replace him! In Rafa we trust!
21 may 2012 11:06:32
hey ed please clear that why are'nt we looking at ralf rangnick,he's done a good job at schalke & hoffenheim so why are'nt we looking at him.....and we were linked with him previously when hodgson got the boot........ {Ed001's Note - no idea.}
21 May 2012 11:04:55
what is happening at liverpool? it seems no one wants manage our club,we will be lagging behind in the transfer window again,top players may feel liverpool is not the place to be and put in transfer request.
21 May 2012 10:51:24
These managers going public are a disgrace, it is clear we are approaching clubs in a respectable and discreet way, only for clowns like Rodgers to slap us in the face and slap there story all over the front pages. Don't blame FSG guys, they are just making enquiries like every club does all the time with regards to players or managers. Blame these tools who keep going public making our club look a joke, Rodgers and de boer deserve no respect from us now, and neither does Dave whelan.
I read on Wikipedia ( not great) that when Rodgers left Watford for reading he claimed he wasn't interested declaring loyalty to Watford, he ended up signing for reading, not everything plays out like the media tells you and any employed manager would be crazy to close doors so publicly to a club they are working for, don't sh*t on your own door step and all that, why don't we just see how it plays out rather than get worked up over nothing?
Cheers
Lfcmatt
Bit harsh its not them slapping it on the news its the reporters they are allowed to say no they are allowed be happy where they are .. people expect players and managers to join us at our beck and call get a grip will ya's we are not the best football club in the world there is better teams out there believe it or not ,, not saying swansea or ajax are but we are far from the best nowadays..hate to say it but true.. 7th 7th 8th and bearly gettin europa league never mind cl .. time to wake up lads ..
lfc89
Roger is not that big to slap Liverpool. he afride we just interview him and not give him the job so sure he don't want to come.
How are they a disgrace because they came out and said they dont want to manage you could you blame them your club is a shambles and you are laughing stocks you are heading down the wrong side of the road everybody else is heading the right way get a grip kopites the name lfc is no longer a big club what did you expect top managers get a grip .Stef the blue
21 May 2012 10:51:16
Look on the positive side lads...as another name turns down the opportunity for talks with FSG, the closer we get to a decision, and that will - temporarily at least - put an end to the anxiety.
Personally, I think it's between AVB, Martinez and Laudrup. My source: don't have one. (Hope it's Laudrup!)
Whatever is going to happen, let's hope it happens very, very soon so we don't miss out on new players, other staff, etc.
Laudrup? Why? He's done less as a manger than Roy Hodgson. 1 Danish Title and a couple of Danish Cups. Oh, and he lost a Spanish Cup final.
Every day that goes by, Rafa Benitez, for all his flaws, for all the issues he might cause with the fanbase and the dressing room, looks more and more like the best candidate. It's down to him or Deschamps for me.
- Something Red -
21 May 2012 10:43:16
Hi eds do you think David moyes will be a target in terms of new manager?
Or perhaps Harry redknapp?
Also will the club still continue to make signings without a manager or will FSG wait until they have a man in place first?
Cheers {Ed002's Note - I have no idea. Sorry.}
Either would be superb=Tried and tested in Prem
21 May 2012 10:36:40
Whoever will be the new manager what he will need is everyone's support and time, unless he obviously has no clue which I pray won't be the case.
HK
21 May 2012 10:38:12
Another rejection for liverpool sad reality never did i think id see the day were no manager wants to come, 10 years ago any manager would feel priveleged to manage us.but managers want to stay with swansea and ajax rather than coning to us. If we end with martinez id be guttes and loss hope.
Some of that comes form the amount of abuse from the supposed LFC fans.
21 May 2012 10:33:28
thanks for the latest info macca. i live in swansea and believe rodgers would take the job if it was offered . hes not prepared to show interest as it wouldnt sit well with swansea board or fans if he wasnt to get job.
21 May 2012 09:57:15
Why was Kenny not retained while a private recruitment process was undertaken? The whole process has damaged the clubs reputation further and made us look like we are in chaos. Also the news of FSG austerity means we have no chance to close the gap on the top 6.
LFC are the new Villa
Sad state of afairs, but I have to agree, the whole situation is a mess. I honestly thought our owners would have handled the Kenny/new manager situation netter than this. Get a grip FSG & sort it out.
21 May 2012 09:57:00
AVB is noth the right man for LFC he didn't earn the respect of the Chelsea players and the same thing could very well happen at Liverpool so why take the chance? The club needs to move forward and as much as I am a big fan of KK it was a step backwards and the same applies to Benitez its time to move on and of the managers being mentioned Martinez should be given the chance... a young Manager with no baggage and if the owners are realy serious about putting the club back where they belong then Hiddink would be the choice but they know that costs big money! Dont think AVB will cut the mustard in the EPL hope he doesn't get the job its time to move forward and asap
Martinez for manager of LFC is a joke, we should have stuck with Kenny if thats our best option.
I'm not sure that failing to earn the respect of John Terry is really such a bad thing.
AVB never stood a chance at Chelsea , he was just seen as one of Mourinios coaches and lived in his shadow . We should back anyone who gets the job .
Maybe AVB is not cut out to manage in the English premiere league in the first place! that's why he did'nt do well at Chelsea! We're suppose to have the hardest league in world football! And he did'nt do well with a team that eventually ended up winning the CL! In Rafa we trust!
21 May 2012 09:46:58
i've been reading a lot of negative posts on here about who people do and don't want for the new manager and how all our best players are going to leave and that FSG are useless i think people need to calm down a bit,i for one am quite excited about this new chapter our football club are about to embark on,remember it's been over 20 years since we won the league playing 'the liverpool way' so the owners like any good business managers have decided enoughs enough as this failure can't go on and decided out with the old (kenny) and maybe one or two players and start again hopefully with a successfull plan in place,they've done this before with the red sox and i'm confident they'll do it with us,bring on august and the new season and let's all get behind whoever the new manager is and the players he brings in and more importantly the owners.
paul d
21 May 2012 09:44:25
Rijkard is only 6/1 at ladbrokes, I hope they no something I don't
Come on frankie boy
Siggle
They know that quite a few people have put money on him so have reduced the odds accordingly. You should know that too, if you see odds reducing.
21 May 2012 10:30:20
Why sell Suarez? Are you guys serious?
1. He was found guilty with evra
2. He regularly does things that are stupid
3. He doesn't score enough goals
4. He gets booed everywhere he goes
5. He's mardy and is always moaning at refs
6. We need him off the books he's destroying our 'Liverpool way' philosify.
7. He has previous banned last year for biteing 7 games he's a liability.
we can't afford to Keep him if a £30m+ offer comes in. Great player but so Is balloteli and Barton but we wouldnt keep them
Barton is a great player? Just that comment alone is enough to write off your whole argument, take a break and relax. RedTurk
Suarez can never be mentioned in the same breath as that of Joey Barton & Balotelli.
They are couple of levels above him as far as stupidity is concerned.
And Luis is couple of levels higher above them as a player.
Selling Suarez would be a massive step backwards & a negative impression to other players & rest.
Bosco
£30 million plus for what? certainly not after reading what you posted! which is correct btw an honest valuation would be max £20 mill
Mate first off you need to spell check to answer your points
1. He was found guilty and has served his punishment
2.He does things that are stupid ? such as and also he quite often does things that are brilliant and also most every footballer does somthing stupid but I go to watch football not master mind
3.He doesn't score enough goal this was his first full season in our league give him time and he still scored more than anyone else
4. He gets booed everywhere he goes .THEY DON'T BOO CRAP PLAYERS and what do I care if other supporters boo our players by that logic when we play the scum we had better field our youth team so that the opposition will be happy
5 He's mardy and always moaning TRUE but once again if we are going to select players who are gentlemen we will have a very poor team
6 We need him off the books hes dertroying the Liverpool way .WHICH is WHAT ??
7.HE has previously been banned for biting .TRUE butwe knew that when we bought him and if we sell him for £30 mil where do we get the replacement from
If we sell suarez i doubt we will be able to get someone of his quality in as a replacement.
+ we need his creativity in the last third
NZL_red
Silly boy.
Barton is crap suarez is in a different class.Also Suarez is our best player will not look good if we sell our best player. The owners will get the fans even more mad.
Id have balotelli actually
21 May 2012 10:29:43
I really do worry if a young manager comes in at Liverpool. We have one huge question that needs to be addressed and in my opinion, will go a long way to telling how successful he will be.
What do you do with Steven Gerrard?
How Steven Gerrard's role in the team is defined will be crucial. Do you give him another season, or two, or three of being the captain and first name on the team sheet, or do you start fazing him out. How this is done and when it is timed will be crucial.
It's not dissimilar to Chelsea and what AVB tried to do. The problem is that the "older" Chelsea players did not like it and this caused dressing room unrest. Steven Gerrard is a club legend, one of the biggest ever, Mr. Liverpool. Will a younger coach (I'm thinking AVB or Martinez here) have the authority and respect of the dressing room to make this decision work successfully. We've already seen AVB fail in doing so at Chelsea, why would this be any different?
In my opinion, an older coach is what is needed. Someone who has achieved much in the game and instantly commands respect. Will a coach who is still in his 30s and not much older than some players get the respect necessary to make such a change? I doubt it.
Ash
"In my opinion, an older coach is what is needed. Someone who has achieved much in the game and instantly commands respect"
We had one of those and just sacked him.
JRG
There isn't only one manager in the world like that JRG. There's another one still living in the Wirral!
Ash
And Ash wanted him gone
Ash, what do you do with Steven Gerrard? The first thing our new manager should do is let him know he is no longer a required player. Same as Carragher! Tell them if an offer comes in for them it will be accepted. Instant respect for the new manager simple as that!.
Steve
ERM why is auch a change needed would be a better question?
The long knives are out for Gerrard now eh, one legend down another to go!
What Supporters, no wonder no manager wants the job.
"instantly commands respect"
Some, including me, would argue doesn't fill this requirement.
JRG
If you do not respect Rafa Benitez, I cannot help you. With what he has done for our club and the city of Liverpool, respect is the least he deserves. Not to mention we won our last European Cup with him and narrowly lost out 2 years later. Or have you forgotten? Let me guess, it was Houllier's team.
Ash
Ash you really have little clue about the foundations that Liverpool Football Club were built on, seeing Kenny back reminded me of the right way, the 'Liverpool Way'.
You would happily sacrifice the clubs soul and principles for the dross that Benitez played just for Glory, you are the type of fairweather fan I have no time for. Just as an addition, if you fail to see how Benitez was the a bigger problem to this club then even Parry, you have very little understanding. Benitez was manager in a period where there were no REAL challengers for the top four, and despite spending as much as Fergie managed to finish outside the top 4, and delivered wages that were 'spending beyond our means', his management style was lunacy, I can barely contemplate were Valencia would be had Benitez been given 'more control'. I could continue but hopefully you understand the gist of it.
The irony of this comment 'If you do not respect Rafa Benitez, I cannot help you', I think we can safely say you are in no position to commit to such a statement given you blatant disregard and constant criticism of a legend.
Jatt YNWA
What to do with Gerrard? Stick him in centre mid with Lucas.
Not rocket science is it?
Jatt, you go on about "the Liverpool way". When was the last time "the Liverpool way" actually worked? I think you have forgotten that the Liverpool way was about wining titles.
Sacrifice the "soul and principles for the dross Benitez played just for glory"? Are you for real? I like European nights at Anfield, tuning in on Tuesday or Wednesday full of believe that my team can beat any of Europe's elite. So yes, I'm sorry if it wasn't in a style that you perceive as "the Liverpool way," but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Benitez wasn't perfect, but yes, he deserves respect.
And you say I criticised Kenny. Yes I did. I think he made some poor choices, most notably in terms of player recruitment, but I never once mindlessly slagged him off as some did.
Legends can be criticized, but they should always be respected.
Ash
21 May 2012 10:21:43
Seriously, why is no-one considering Luis Enrique? Just left Roma so is free agent, ties with Barca (at the time Segura & Borrell were there), good tactically and fits in with the 'young manager' profile were supposedly after.
Games 38
W 16
D 8
Losses 14
Goals for 60
Better than most of the names being suggsted.
And really, De Rossi and Lamela aside, Roma are pretty awful. Here with our back 4, Gerrard, Luis and Andy he can go places.
21 May 2012 10:21:27
Again just passing on what i have been told.
I am sure the names i get given will change..
The talk from the players is the owners really want Rodgers..
Again i am only posting what i have been told, i am sure things will change..
I suppose the only people who know are the owners..
Also Kenny is happy to have left as the pressure was really starting to affect him..
He believes they are after Rodgers as well..
Cheers
Macca
Kudos for the continued info Macca, not so sure on this one though,
Also Rodgers would be the last name in my own personal list which i know means nothing, hes not the right one at this time for sure.
Think its all up in the air right now my friend and we'll have to see what comes!
The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96
For the love of God - I hope they don't go for him as he'll be out of the door in 12 months!
I am seriously worried now.......
The Goatherder
JFT96
If the owners really want Rodgers then I can see that the DOF is going to be key, I don't know much about Rodgers I'm willing to let anyone try! But I fail to see how that plan would ever work out...its weird reading on here lately, seems like everybody wants blood but really they don't know who's!
Lfcmatt
Macca you are losing the plot mate, why would they want rodgers When there other managers available With better qualifications? The 1 who they want is avb, as far as im concerned you dont have good enough sources. By the way it was martinez who made swansea play how they are. RedTurk
I give up Macca we are doomed! Why did Broughton and co not work harder to identify better custodians when selling the club? No way in hell were FSG the best out there.
If its Rodgers then we will continue to slide toward obscurity!
Cheers macca ,i had a feelin the pressure was getting to kenny,he looked drained by the end,and brendan rogers, not happy at all with this,good young manager but hes only really starting out,
bad times
KK is better off out of there, FSG are handling this whole situation all wrong. I'm really disapointed by this public mess our club is in. I had high hopes for FSG, now we look like a laughing stock.
So macca we should be ready being mid table team was very excited when fsg bought us but sadly same problem cheap options
RedTurk,
I think i am losing it mate..
I keep getting told differant things..
This info has pretty much come from Kenny himself..
He thinks that is who the club wants..
I will keep posting the news i get..
I am sure it will change on a daily basis..
Again i am sure nobody nows exactly what the owners want..
But i can confirm that the players etc think the owners want Rodgers..
Cheers
Macca
Forgive me, I may be wrong but didnt Rodgers rule himself out?
Steve
I won't ever believe Rodgers is the main target - it makes no sense at all to me. I thought H&G were daft for appointing Hodgson - this is worse. Come on FSG, dont let us down!
LIVERPRES
It all seems reasonable statements from macca, kenny looked under immense pressure towards the end.
the man is a legend and the one mistake they didn't do is get him back at the academy.
they way he was looking after raheem sterling, his approach before bringing him on was more of a father figure and the club and youth would gain so much from him being around their development. maybe once the dust settles....
as for rodgers, i watched that whole swansea game online and no club has dominated lfc like that for a bloody long time! mr rodgers is spending part of his summer at the spain training camp adding to his football education instead of having an extended holiday. that's not a bad thing to want to add that experience and knowledge to your c.v as a manager...
After reading numerous things about AVB. How he treated people. Not just players, but right down just to ordinary members of staff.
I don't think I'd want him at our club.
A good manager yes, but as what happened at Chelsea, aside from the fact most of the players there are egotistical idiots, if he doesn't treat people with respect they won't bother playing for him. End of.
Personally Rodgers would be my first choice behind Rafa, and it seems unlikely he'll be back.
Rodgers team plays the best football in the league, hands down.
He is very media friendly,speaks well and with sense.
He is a great student of the game. Always tryin to improve himself. I think I'm right in saying he is joining the Spanish camp for the Euros.
He has previously studied at Barcelona. I assume that's were he got the style of football from.
I think he would be a great appointment with someone experienced like Txiki Begiristain above him.
KKM...
Whoever we do get. Give the guy a chance!
If someone told you 2 or 3 years Guardiola was going to be manager. People would have been moaning like they are now.
And now look at Guardiola. People have to start somewhere.
KKM...
I live in Belfast and Brendan Rogers is a Man Utd man through and through, he'll never take the job.
21 May 2012 10:21:24
This is John W.Henry sending out an urgent S.O.S distress call to King Kenny Dalglish.
"We are very sorry King Kenny, we have made a terrible error of judgement by sacking you from your position as manager of Liverpool F.C.
We had a masterplan of appointing a young foreign coach with a fancy name to replace you, a coach who could get us challenging the likes of Chelsea, Man City & Man Utd again, whilst spending as little money as possible.
Regretably the plan backfired spectacularly and Messrs De Boer, Klopp & Rodgers laughed in our faces when we offered them the position of manager.
Now the natives are getting restless, threatening mutiny if this mess isn't sorted out soon. The unruly mob that is 'The Spirit of Shankly' threatens to march through the city of Liverpool in protest, whilst our top players Luis Suarez & Martin Skrtel are being courted by rich Italian clubs. Oh how I long for the day's of winning trophies at Wembley to return. Sadly those days seem long gone now.
Please, please, please Kenny we are begging you to come back to Anfield and save us (again) from this disaster we have created, before it's too late."
Love it!.
Yes, Mr Henry and his FSG were premature in their decision and action.
Got it wrong I tell you.
How long did it take you to come up with such rubbish? Wake up to yourself!
Steve
21 May 2012 10:18:24
Ajax manager Frank de Boer has ruled himself out of the running to become Liverpool manager after being linked with the job. The 42-year-old Dutchman has guided Ajax to back-to-back Eredivisie titles after taking over as coach in 2010. De Boer told De Telegraaf: "I am honoured by the request but I am only just getting started with Ajax. I want to bring good things. That's why I will stay loyal to Ajax in the coming years."
Red indian
21 May 2012 10:09:31
What a shile of pite we're in. I feel sick to the stomach with all this uncertainty and the way FSG have handled this..........
The Goatherder
JFT96
It's not even been a f"*!*g week!!!
Couldn't agree more, Damn Yonkees
kidmillions
It has'nt been a week but obviously FSG have known what they going to do so should of had the replacement already lined up the day after Kenny got the boot! In Rafa we trust!
21 May 2012 10:09:05
FFS people will you all just take a moment, count to ten or do whatever you do to chill out.
FSG apparently have a long list candidates for the managers position. We are going through that list inviting managers for interview. It's inevitable that some would turn us down and it certainly increases their standing with their current club when it's leaked to the media doesn't it?
I'm sure FSG have a preferred manager in mind. They are just being thorough in their search. I mean if we hadn't approached Klopp or de Boer all the whiners would we saying why haven't we?
As I said previously, everyone chill. All will be revealed soon and I think all will be very happy.
Gordy
Don't really know what to make of tht? but i thing is for sure most of us was happy with kenny!now it looks like our club is in a proper mess, a hope tht isnt the case but lets be honest fsg are not doing themselfs any favours.i hope this is all sorted as quick as poss as we are becoming a laughing stock of the english prem.
mrbrown
I don't understand why some people are freaking out and saying 'why are the likes of Klopp and De Boer turning us down!? How dare they! Our club isn't what it used to be!! ' But these guys are only being loyal to the clubs that they're at, fair play, they cant be knocked for being loyal!
I`m disgusted in so called Liverpool fans having a go at the owners just because they want a manager now. You should all chill out and wait and see what happens. Imagine the slap in the face all the press will have if FSG get the right man in. Now i think that`s worth waiting for don`t you?. Kophead Andy.
Had to read this rwice just to be certain that it actually was a sensible post amidst a tirade of overreaction- well done Gordy mate, you reassured me there are intelligent folk still posting on here.
LIVERPRES
21 may 2012 10:06:32
the club have mentioned no names whatsoever when it comes to a new manager, the betting is all over the place, we dont have a clue!!!.....why are we slating the owners when the press are fishing and making nonsense up every single day?, we know theyre out to get us and label us a little club!.....
come on people, seriously these owners arent here to lose money by installing someone who isnt good enough nor are they unprofessional enough to approach every manager in the world and tell the press of their every move............people are so so gullible...........
sit back chill out and enjoy the ride, until we get some bad news lets all assume that were in for very exciting times with the reshaping of our great club............
the guv 81-9 jft96 ynwa
Two sensible posts in a row!! Things are looking up as I scroll down!
LIVERPRES
21 May 2012 10:02:19
Hi ed loving this site firstly, if we were to make AVB our next manager which seems likely as bookies odds now shortened to 2:1, what kind of players or names do you think he would bring in ? {Ed002's Note - It is impossible to say right now - he chose one player to move to Chelsea - so maybe Merieles will return.}
Ed2!! Yesterday Roy Hodgson now this
Lyndon {Ed002's Note - He is the only player that has been 100% his decision since arriving in England.}
Just thought you were on a roll after Roy Hodgson yesterday
Lyndon
21 May 2012 10:01:14
de boer turns down approach from liverpool !
de boer - I am honoured by the request, but I am only just getting started with Ajax
lw12
21 May 2012 09:38:57
I have heard that rafa will be coming back to Liverpool and this is why Torres has come out and said he is not happy at Chelsea.
Hope So!
Yawn, the records got stuck again!
21 May 2012 09:37:48
We really dont have a clue do we??..........Its madness, were all speculating but to be honest no-one whatsoever has mentioned anyone being interviewed aside from Martinez who was blabbed by the Wigan chairman......Ive just been on the betting exchanges and its crazy stuff, De Boer was 40's yesterday 3's this morning and back to 20's now..........AVB is still flirting around as favourite im sure for no other reason than he hasnt said no!...........and poor old Roberto is still available at 3's as at least he has stated ill have the interview thanks.......Laudrup went 10's last week and now you can get about 33's.........its mental and a totally unstable betting market, which should tell us all something,
I personally think this needs sorting out soonish but I do also think that the owners need to be cut a bit of slack too, theyve always said theyll do things in the correct manner and in house, there is nothing to say they havnt got a few names in mind and there is no way they are sat with their feet up doing nothing, we have multiple postions available to fill at the club and lets not forget the club is a business same as any other............This wont take too long im sure as all this situation will want resolving so sponsors and potential sponsors etc can all rest easy.........We have a massive kit deal in place and lots happening, this club has needed an overhaul for 20 years so lets see what happens before we condemn ourselves to mid table mediocrity with all this negative talk,
Theyve shown their mettle when it comes to things not being good enough by sacking Kenny whether we agree with it or not.............Patience fellas, I think by the end of this week we may well be more in the picture manager and DOF wise
The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96
Totally agree. RedTurk
Ever thought they might just not have a clue what their doing? and you think there showing their mettle! :(:(:(
kidmillions
Have to applaud you for this listing, Exact and to the point.
I have a sneaky little feeling this is from someone at the club trying to put the fans at there ease???, Its way to sensible for most posters on here.
Bobby.
Whilst I agree with you, I think it was not the smartest move to sack KD without having a successor lined up. All this uncertainty is not good, we will find it hard to attract players and to get them if this goes on too long. Hopefully all this uncertainty is media created, and FSG are well on top of it and having a good old laugh.. but I'm really not sure that they are. Hope to be proven wrong.
Well said son. The club is in desperate need of an overhaul. We have been surviving on memory for the last fifteen years while everyone else moved on and left us behind. Incorporating new ideas doesn't mean we have to lose our soul or identity, we're in danger of doing that if things stay the way they have been recently.
David
I really wish i did have info straight from the club Bobby!, that way i could put everyone at ease and stop a few with all this negativity!, they are top top business men we should wait and see what happens before we chastise them, they realise 8th isnt acceptable in the league so therefore are making changes, theyre not going to make them after making that decision with another 8th place to mid table finish in mind, does everyone forget the remit was top four for Kenny?.......well their only saying 8th wasnt good enough lets start again, theyve also thanked Kenny for stabilising the club.........But i forgot we have so many multi millionaire business men on here who know how to handle top drawer money deals on a regular basis not to mention high end contract business and wages............Get real people.... I DID play pro 17 years ago Bobby but not at LFC level and back then you could tackle and sign a player for two bob!......I certainly wouldnt have any contacts with any relevant info in this day and age.......Racing tips...now thats another thing lol!
The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96
Well said Guv.
FSG are obviously keeping as musch as they possibly can to their chests, the fact that Martinez news got out was by his own chairman, and that was only for permission to talk to the guy!
others have ruled themselves out, obviously FSG have approached to request talks.
think this week it has to be done and dusted with DOF & CEO appointed as well, to give us a chance for July 1st window opening and before teams are camped for the Euros. Although talks can still go on at this stage.
My only worry is who is doing all the approaching on behalf of FSG?
Piddy.
21 May 2012 08:53:32
According to Sly Sports the man from Ajax, he say, no
KoPeNdFaN
21 May 2012 08:46:28
ok guys and girls werner and henry are first and foremost business men all this talk about cuts is rediculous and selling our best players is nonsense in order for these guys to make money the need success which minimum means champions league they know that selling our best players is cutting there own throat give them some credit.they are looking at getting rid of dead wood that is not adding to the pot .they also know the stadium has to be built which again is a big investment if any of us think that they can turn things around overnight then your sadly mistaken it will take many years but thats why our next manager is so important he must bring in the right players which means shopping at harrods i for one would rather 1 top quality player a year than buying 5 average players which has been our problem for many years.ynwa
Won't work; your quality players want to play alongside quality players now! Or they will under-achieve and wish to leave.
We need a really good lump sum initially.
Say £90 mil on 1 player in the £35/40 mil bracket to score goals and a further 3 players in the £15/20 mil bracket to make us genuine contenders for minimum top 3/4. Job done:
If we don't do this? The really good players we do have will not want to waste their short careers waiting for us to buy one player a year!
kidmillions
Agree with everything except the use of the term "dead wood". thrown about too much and is disrespectful of good players.
They don't have clue what they are doing they are making our club laughing stock I never thought they will be a time when manager will refuse managing us. In few months fsg will be expose they don't have money to take us where we belong. Do you thinlk why we had to buy average players coz they are buzzy reducing our wage if you look big picture we should forget signing good players suarez is like 7o,000 Acarrol 60,000 dowwing 55,000 who will come when we are happy to pay large transfer fee but peanuts wages so forget falcao,cavani soldado etc,etc they can not compete witth other teams so manager are not interested we have given a lot of stick to kenny now kenny is no more so every focus is on fsg
Ok under achievers then players that cant cut the mustard players who are been paid kings ransoms and not delivering all of the above and there is no way that fsg are going to put another 90 million in this year i just cant see it they are looking for the club ie the business to be self sufficent only way i can see that type of investment is if the sell a lot of players and start a fresh its because of the high wages that these guys who are not performing is proving difficult to move them on ie joe cole ,aquilani etc
Deadwood is directed at the players who are playing badly week in week out not the good players and it the good players who will leave over the dead wood playing beside them
Kidmillions, im glad you dont control the pursestrings at LFC. i dont think a 35-40 million goalscorer will cut it! I think a 55 - 60 million goalscorer would be better. We already have one of those 35 mil players and he only scored 4 league goals.
Steve
To the americans the way they are going to create the club is higher revenue ie bums in seats which is why i think we will see a real push for the stadium to be enlarged then we will have a bigger transfer kitty in fairness its whats needed badly we have the fans to fill it and they know it ...
21 May 2012 08:45:56
...and once again the transfer window madness is upon us. God I love football :)
Re the manager's job, some big names being banded about (which is nice), shame they're all rejecting us though - Frank de Boer being the latest. Man, imagine him, Bergkamp and Wim Jonk as out management team.
IMO we need someone to take up to CL contenders, then another manager to get us challenging for the Prem. I imagine this will take a good 4 - 5 years.
Also, anyone fancy Drogba on a free?
Torres?
Thoughts on this anyone?
Drogba is being offered £250k a week after tax in China, not really worth it for a 34 year old now is it!
We need money for at least 4 quality players £90 mil should do it.
kidmillions
Torres has burned his bridges so no, I don't think he will return.
Are you serious about Drogba? Do you honestly think we can atrract him to Anfield? Chelsea will no doubt offer him a huge contract to stay at the club, whilst rich foreign clubs like Anzhi, Shenhua etc will offer him ridiculous money to join them. Liverpool just cannot compete anymore.
Are you offering up the 90 mil kidmillions? Numpty!
Steve
No, wasn;t being serious fella, just putting it out there :)
21 May 2012 08:30:52
Hi Ed 002- what is your view on AVB? Do you thinky he has an potential to be an excellent manager and do you think he has man management skills to deal with young players and bring them through to 1st team?
Nim {Ed002's Note - He is a nice guy and was very quiet when he was first at Chelsea back in 2005 or so. My understanding is that his man-management skills were not great this time around (Anelka being the prime example). He will use younger players if he thinks they are ready.}
My understanding is you have a few oldies at chelsea on bumper pay deals and avb was trying to bring the young guys through, the oldies didnt like it because they still want to keep there bumper pay deals! Mr lampard, terry & co. avb didnt become a bad manager over night, he went unbeaten all season with porto, for anyone thats an incredible achievement. RedTurk
Wenger went unbeaten all season in the supposedly hardest league in the World.
That was nearly 7 yrs ago and as we all know he has won nothing since.
kidmillions
21 May 2012 09:24:20
De Boer turns us away aswell. Honered but only just started with Ajax.
Getting fustrated by the joke we are being made to look like. Imagine how our new manager is going to feel knowing he wasnt first choice if he still hasnt been approached and yet he sees others have turned us down.
Jordan
Frank De Boer didn't turn down the job, he turned down the chance to be interviewed for the job. Totally different.
I think it's great that we are looking to sound out quality managers, I'm sure FSG know what they are looking for, just be patient.
Doesn't reflect badly on us, more Wigan/Swansea/Ajax for leaking this information to the media.
Kez
The Yonks can be pointed in the direction of anyone in a tracksuit:):)
Methinks they don't know there Ass from their Elbow.mmm
kidmillions
I think the high wages may help them cope with the disappointment
Was he ever even approached? {Ed002's Note - I suspect the approach was tentative as per Benitez - asked by a third party if he would consider discussing the job.}
De Boer should be applauded for being loyal to the club that he's at. There's not enought genuin loyalty in football anymore.
21 May 2012 09:23:30
now de boer turns us down does anybody fancy the job?
He's being loyal to the club that he's already at.
21 May 2012 09:22:25
I quickly turned on TalkSh*t this morning and heard Alan Brazil saying that his "pretty good source" at Liverpool believes it is between AVB and Martinez for the job. AVB first choice and so the job is his if he wants it, if not looks like we will get Martinez.
Just passing on what they said.
YNWA Mark H
^ I really hope not!
21 May 2012 09:18:15
Now De Boer of Ajax, has turned down our approach to him, this is getting out of hand. I'll be expecting my phone to ring soon as I had a great season on FM12, getting Hull City to the cup final. Whats going on ed's its nothing short of embarrassing. What credit is the guy who gets the job in the end got, when he knows that many others turned down the job he got. Hardly a confidence booster to start of your managerial career.
FSG need to get their act together, all this should have been done in the background and only approached the guys they knew 100% were interested, hardly rocket science for apparent financial geniuses and hardened businessmen to have sounded this info out before this debacle.
Phil Steele - Belfast
If all else fails King Kenny will come back and save us!
In all honesty Kenny would probably come back thats how much he loves the club but he would be mad to do so
21 May 2012 09:15:45
Fooookkkkkk.Slysports reporting De Boer(spelling/)turned us down now!
21 May 2012 09:13:14
Regardless of sky sports or anything else Frank De Boer hasnt actually turned down anything, there are NO reports apparently in Holland to suggest hes said no.
The Guv 81-9 YNWA JFT96 {Ed002's Note - He spoke with De Telegraaf.}
21 May 2012 09:13:06
20 May 2012 23:36:55
Just looking on the Express website and it seems AVB has already been interviewed....
Redphil
Must be true then if it's in a newspaper-
21 may 2012 09:08:37
i have read a few of posts on here wanting to give martinez a chance, pointing to the facts of keeping a small club up on a limited budget. so can you not see that's exactly why there is absolutely no way we can give him the job, the gulf between managing us and managing wigan is immense, we lose 2 games and were all over the back pages with the liverpool crest split in half with the words crisis splashed everywhere and people who buy into the media circus start ranting about getting rid of the manager, wigan lose 7 or 8 on the spin and it barely gets a mention. the pressure on our manager is ten fold that of a mid table to lower end team just as it would be with city chelsea arsenal or united. this is because expectations are so high because of past achievements. if this appointment happens i would give it 2 seasons tops then we are left with the players he has brought in and have to spend millions on paying up his and his coaching staffs contracts again and start all over again! so we have to have somebody with the minimum managerial requirements of having won or been at least close to winning there league or won a f.a cup or equivelent in what ever country they have managed coupled with a decent european competition run so they have to some degree had to handle trophy winning pressure which is completely differ'nt to the pressure of a relegation scrap were in most cases in recent history the relegated manager will stay in his job regardless! so if fsg want to go down the martinez route then this will lead to more wasted money more ground lost on the teams above us and put us in a position we may never recover from, leaving us were some people already think we are, a mid table hoping for a good cup run team! wake up fsg before it's to late!!!
waro
Roberto Di Matteo's record with WBA in the premiership reads:
P25 W5 D11 L13 F31 A48
When he was sacked, WBA were 17th in the league and just two points above relegation.
Since he has taken over at Chelsea he has won the FA cup and the Champions League. Previous managers at the club such as Mourinho, Ancelloti and Scolari who had much better CV's than Di Matteo's have not won the Champions League for Chelsea.
I'm not saying give Martinez the job but you cannot dismiss him simply because he hasn't won any major honours.
JRG
I like Martinez but I can see where your coming from. I just think our owners being American; want the Maximum acheivement for the minimum outlay and Martinez fits the bill in every way.
Moyes fits the bill at Everton and has lasted 10 years? The same acheivements at a higher profile club would of seen him sacked an age ago.
Can see us having to unfurl the yanks out banners by xmas:(((
kidmillions
21 May 2012 09:07:04
According to skysports de Boer has turned us down. So cross another manager of the list. Is this coming down to a rafa versus AVB choice?
RedDan
SPOT ON!! Thats exactly whats happening, with the owners favouring AVB
Will Rafa be able to work under an all powerful DOF? Something tells me from past experience he won't and there will be fireworks in the not so distant future, if he get's the managers job.
^ Maybe Rafa might have to compromise! And if he love's LFC like he say's that should'nt be a problem! In Rafa we trust!
21 May 2012 09:06:21
Morning all I noticed a post yesterday from a DANIEL HALWELL, it said that AVB would be named manager this morning and that we have scouts watching Cavani, I wondered if said poster had any history of getting things right so I checked. This is what I found...
JANUARY
"we will buy Granero, Isla and
Couthino"
"we will bid for Honda and Soldado"
AUGUST
"we will sign Cahill"
"Dann will go to arsenal"
JULY
"Aguero is coming to Liverpool"
"if Aguero doesn't sign this summer I will never post again"
"disappointing news, Aguero is not even being considered"
"you heard it here first, I predict Doni, Downing, Mata, Turan, Dann and Baines"
"N'Zogbia and Mata will sign. Zapata and Angel will sign Turan will sign and maybe James Milner"
Please stop Daniel, you know nothing and have no source
Loooooool classic burn
Sad thing is he'll guess one right once and then we'll never hear the end of it.
David
21 May 2012 08:58:48
Now De Boer turned us down. Just give me the job, ill do it for free with no transfer budget!!
FowlerisGod
21 May 2012 08:58:44
de boer has turned us down! thats another one of the list, we will be re-signing KK at this rate!
mellor
21 May 2012 08:42:04
LFC have allegedly approached several managers, but have any interviews actually been carried out?
Voodoored
21 May 2012 08:40:53
I think we should put a bid in for dann, rochina, Jarvis, fletcher! Cheap buys! Thoughts?
Cheap for a reason
Thoughts!!!
Yeah keep them to yourself lol.
LAVERS
Thoughts? yeah mate i think its best if you stop thinking.
steve
21 May 2012 08:32:55
Dont care what went on before(Beggars cant be choosers type of therory)Get Torres back!
How many more times do people need telling. Torres will not return to Liverpool if Gerrard and Carragher are still there. To get hiom back, bioth of those would have to be moved on first.
Well move them on -
What has he possibly done int he 18 months since he left to want him back? If we were looking at another other striker with such a paltry goals tally you'd be up in arms about it
21 May 2012 08:27:15
Hi Ed 002- what is your view on AVB? Do you thinky he has an potential to be an excellent manager and do you think he has man management skills to deal with young players and bring them through to 1st team?
Nim {Ed002's Note - AVB is a nice guy and perhaps with some more experience he could become a very good manager. When he was first at Chelsea in 2005 or so he was very quiet. This time I understand that the man management skill were lacking. He would have no problems playing younger players if they are ready.}
21 May 2012 08:13:12
Suarez staying!!
Ramon
(90.217.42.176)
20 May 2012 23:36:55
Just looking on the Express website and it seems AVB has already been interviewed....
Redphil
Avb is looking for a project and was sounded out before the sacking on kk, Avb is thought to be interestested highly but wants to know more about the structure fsg want to impliment. This would leave me to believe Avb will not have had an interview YET. D DEIN is supposidly advising fsg , though weither he himself will take a role at anfield is pure conjecture, fsg apparently want to sort out a d.o.f. First but who knows .
21 May 2012 07:59:46
hi everyone.i was in john lewis at liverpool 1 at the weekend and i saw phil neal, he gave me a wink and a jaunty smile so i took that as a clue to who our next manager is.....maurinio!! get in!!
lfc4me
Maybe he thought you were good looking
21 May 2012 07:38:59
If FSG are being advised by 'Big Football People' in their search for a new manager, I hope they don't mean Ron Atkinson, Barry Fry & Joe Kinnear??
Red4Life
No it's Neil Ruddock
I have it on good authoritythat it's actually Gazza's mate Jimmy "Five Bellies" who's been advising FSG. Expect Gazza to be announced as the new boss later this week.
21 May 2012 07:13:28
If i had the money suarez has i would have been in Italy to watch that match last night too especially if a mate of mine was playing players are people too and most won't get much of a break this year because of the euros so he prob just wanted to watch a great maseen as it was the last big ish game of the season it was a cup final at the end of the day .. on the flip side if i wasn't a pool fan and the best team in Italy
who won the league as invincibles came knocking i would certainly be considering it.. he does not hold a special place in his heart for Liverpool the likes of Gerrard carra etc are a different type of player they love lfc and have the right to kiss the crest other players come and go its football and until we start getting cl football its gonna be harder to keep big names because a team in cl or title winners will always come knocking and that's what any big player wants so don't take it personally when a player leaves .. Is all about success .. we will be elite again soon
lfc89
who won the league beaten
21 May 2012 07:10:04
It doesn't surprise me that every manager we talk to is turning the managers job down. If I was a manager at a club. I would turn it down. Coz all this crap about winning the PL in the first session is crap. The only manager that we will get. Is some 1 that's out of a job at the moment. The reason there out of a job is coz there not that good. Now there expected to get us in top 4 in there first season. Things can only get worse for us be4 the get better
Jay Irish red
21 May 2012 06:36:00
Hi ed thanks for great work u put together,avb to be manager within a span of 3 to 4 days.n much better than martinez,suarez is not going anyWhere nor is skertel.suarez at juventus doesnt mean he is leaving,remember alonso attend liverpool games when he is free,but he play for madrid.ageuro before joining city said that he love liverpool so is klose but irrespective about that they dont play for liverpool,just be patience n trust our owner they r proved winner n strong leadership.they will take our club forward to a place where it belong at the top. Redindian
21 May 2012 06:26:15
An update. FSG will suprise us all with choice if manager this week. All I can say is, is that he is from a country who gave us Audi. Expect the news to build this wk and break mid way through. Also strange how Cavanni has not been linked to a big spending club yet in the press. Reason is, he will sign for Lfc along with Gaston Ramirez, Elm and a 2 more squad signings. The list of outs will be maxi, kuyt and 1 big suprise.
BK {Ed002's Note - Cavani has been linked with PSG, Chelsea, Juventus and Real Madrid.}
21 May 2012 05:41:15
i think the best purchase can do this summer would be this.
edison cavani (good friend of suarez has shown what hes capable off).....................christian eriksen: great left right or midfielder, hes basicly able to play all the spots, hes control whit the ball, will open up for suarez to have more free space.........................
Nicklas bendtner: dont shoot me for saying this, hes cheap about at same level as carrol, and will be able to challenge himfor the spot, hes young and Tbh, arsenal are known for destroying talent, they buy 4 great prospect but only ever get one star out of it, and hes one of the short straws, wenger exploided himby keeping himon the bench to always have a hard worker.
i believer these players could do it, pls leave some notes,even if its hate mail about bendtner hehehe.
Bendtners carp
21 May 2012 01:51:36
The S*N are reporting that Ajax's manager Frank De Boar has now emerged as our top target. Hate to agree with them but this is the way we need to go, plays good football, knows how to win and can hit the ground running. Him or Michael Laudraup for me.
Goobz
Hate to agree with them? Why are you reading what they are saying to begin with? Very poor form.
DownUnderRed.
You cant be a LFC supporter and read that rag surely....?
Learn about the history of our club please
tel 1949
Dont have to read the s*n to know there cover stories they are most web pages like BBC etc... I don't buy any news papers and know what they all say. Good comment downunder red and you are a true fan..
It's on the sky sports news " what the papers say" section on the app/ online
Don't jump to conclusions
Siggle
So I trust that you do not watch SKY Sports either ?
21 May 2012 07:31:49
{Ed002's Note - Note that the lengthy post from the "owners" was effectively a spoof from someone's blog and has been removed.}
21 May 2012 01:23:33
My guilty pleasure, even though it wont happen.
Ian holloway.
Great with the media, real man manager, passionate and respectful ( how gracious in defeat after blackpool should of won against the hammers )
And not to bad tactically too, getting a team of blackpool into, and on the brink of the premiership you have to have something about you.
And is this a legimate case ed, Zidane for manager? seen a few posts....it would make me happy. Does he speak english though?
Cheers
Ben the red
Ask Leicester fans what they think of Holloway! Can people stop it with these built up by the media managers, think for your fu**in self will ye and actually look into a managers past and present rather than read and listen to media propaganda!!
Waro
Waro, pipe down you child. Ian holloway is a good manager. Fact. As you rafa lover would say.
21 May 2012 01:08:48
eds this is just a thought but would like to hear your thought on it , could the owners already have someone lined up and all this 12 man list of managers is just a smoke screen , because they or the manager involved may still be at a club and our owners dont want to get blamed for tapping up , it seems a bit odd that they are taking so long and with interviewing 12 people will take even longer , the owners like things to be done and dusted , so the club can move on a bit quicker , so what do you think of it , could they have one plus his staff and are just waiting for all the leagues to finish ,,,,,,mickey b {Ed022's Note - They will more than likely have an order of preference yes. They wouldn't have sacked him with no idea on who they'd go for.}
FSG would not have sacked Kenny unless they had someone lined up, a preference list of managers so to speak.
Really?
That's not being borne out!
21 May 2012 00:55:25
Suarez said he wont be leaving Anfield! That rules him out and Aren't you forgetting what Torres did to us, saying him and Suarez up front but I'm all with big andy Carroll, forget torres the traitor
'Big' Andy Carroll will be loaned to SToke if we get a good manager just wait and see
21 may 2012 00:48:50
heck im thinking way too much tonight when fsg first came i read an article that with regards to player contracts fsg liked to use a lower basic of pay with massive bonuses based on targets and results. cud the ed share any light on this. is this how they operate in their other sporting investments? cud this work if we had a huge name coach as the players would think they achieve more as a player, and in term earn the money at the same time {Ed022's Note - It would make sense yes. They believe in lower wages I know that, but I'm pretty sure they would offer pretty nice bonuses.}
21 May 2012 00:38:12
Lots of people on here saying if the owner don't get their fingers out we're going to turn into a mid table team, well I'm no mathematician, but haven't we finished the last 3 seasons in 7th, 7th and 8th, in my humble opinion that pretty much makes us a mid table team, the purpose of this post is not a cheap snide from a bitter in disguise or hacked off spuds fans feeling sorry about himself, but to point out how delusional some of the fans are towards, targets, aims and the club in general, we don't simply get the best managers, players or results simply because we are Liverpool, Hicks and Gillette nearly destroyed this club, we are years behind most of the clubs who finished above us and it is going to take time, patience and faith in our owners and their decisions to get us back into the top 4.
ThatsWhatSheSaid
We finished 6th season before with dalglish and under his progress finished 8th with world class british talent On the cheap. Anyway what i want to say to everyone is avb, rafa, or martinez i believe can all do great jobs at liverpool. I would say don't write off martinez, he doesnt have experience at the top level but where do managers start? He has kept the smallest club in the league (wigan) here for 3 years playing good football, blackpool tried with big mouth holloway and they went down :). Anyway any manager out of those 3 im sure will improve liverpool fc, but offourse if u could choose between the 3 it would be rafa on top of them all, and then avb.RedTurk
You maybe right
But the owners showed little patience with Kenny whilew will any other manager fair any better?
Any new manager knows their target top 4 and with a squad so bereft of quality and injuries talking their toll throughout the season Top 4 is unlikely
So what next?
Time to face the hard unpalatible reality
21 May 2012 00:36:04
Hi ed's every is entitled to their oppinion, but the lack of respect shown to roberto martinez disgusts me, he has cut his grain at championship level at swansea, and by all accounts improved them a lot, went to wigan, certain relegation candidates for the 3 years he's been there, made average players who wouldn't have got a sniff at most prem clubs, this season with 10 games to go, they were gonners, said by every single pundit who meant to know what there talking about, beat us at anfield, and made us look inept, beat utd who were despeerate to win league, and has it turned out, would of won the prem with a point at wigan, went away to arsenal who were on a 10 game winning streak, and were desperate to keep ahead of spurs, newcastle and chelski, beat newcatle the form team at the time 4-0, and played them of the park! Played good football, kept the ball for fun, has improved young players who chose wigan instead of bigger clubs, moses, mcCarthy, mCcarthur and look at di santo now, chelski got rid, but he has shown he can bring youngsters in, improve them and let them express themselves, he always acts impeccable in interviews, never once showed any pressure on him, and that gave the players the confidence only certain classy managers can do! I,m not gonna diss any manager who fsg have drawn up! I just don't think there's a need to disrespect a decent manager, who always shows respect to all managers, players, officials and fans! We must have lost a lot of credit these last few years, 1st with roy, then with kenny (not all, but most), now some1 who was only in line for a interview! Put yourself in his shoes, or if ya was due a job interview, and people were saying your no good, don't deserve a chance! We will probally never find out how good he could of been, because of no it all fans! And most want rafa back! Same rafa who gave contracts that decent players get to average joes, made alonso leave, had problems with forming any kind of relationships with players! Took £9 million in his leaving packet! Just don't judge how any1 won't or will be a success until given at least a chance! R history is base on given managers chances: shanks (preston), bob paisley (physio, coach) joe fagan ( assistant), kenny (player/manager), souness came with a sucessful cv, look what he did, roy evans ( promoted, from within ),gerrard houllier, weren't really a sucessful manager, but a technical director with good cv), won cups, and a cup treble,) rafa won champions league with houliers team, except maybe 3/4, won another cup, 2nd in league, kenny, well they say never go back (so why go back to rafa, and his massive contract) won cup, and he got sacked, so who ever comes, please don't disrespect them before they've managed a single game! Looks like AVB will get it, yet didn't he fail in the same league 6 months ago! I just think given a chance martinez could be something worth taking a slight risk on! He won't be on a silly contract! And the D O F will be the 1 to attract the big name players, especially if he has a big reputation! Thaknks ed's love your work! Av any of ya's got any clue, what direction its looking at the moment! Because all players will be looking to sign for new clubs, and we just seem to be making r fans, frantic and panicking! And some1 needs to come out with details about dof, manager and players in and most importantly out: suarez, skrtel, reina and agger, 4 of r best players! Help ED's b4 peeps start jumping of bridges! Y.N.W.A Joey E (breem)! {Ed022's Note - There is no indication at the moment, the club seems to just be finding out who would be interested in taking the job, and who wouldn't. After that, there will be an interview process (which so far includes Martinez, Rafa and Laudrup).}
21 May 2012 00:25:36
I read that Capello is interested in taking our job , ed any truth? I hope we keep Reina , Johnson , Skrtel, Agger, Lucas, Gerrard, Suarez, Carroll , Coates , Wilson , Joe Cole , Aquilani , Jack Robinson , Cara , Flanagan , Shelvey , Jones and start rebuliding around them . if we're given 40million plus sales :
kuyt 1m
adam 5m
spearing 3m
downing 10m
doni 2m
enrique 5m , that would be 25m plus bugdet
then i think it we should consider looking at :
Aly Cissokho 10m
javi martinez 25m / banega 20m / nuri sahin 5-10m / resigning xabi alonso 10m
Hazard 35m or bring krasic 15m + adam johnson 10m
Elliot
Diame free
Oliver Giroud 15m
if we can make these signings ( unlikely ) then we'd be considered as one of the contenders next year , please relate editor
{Ed022's Note - Capello is unlikely.}
This is the most delusional and unrealistic post i have ever seen. Makes no sense at all.
AJ
You know Henry has implemented Austerity at Liverpool you spend is way off base
Try a bottle of tizer and a packet of pork scratchings
21 May 2012 00:21:07
Sorry, but FSG are not fit for purpose.
They are very disrespectful to the fans and Liverpool employees who have given good service. Cannot Harry Potter wave his wand and magic them away?
I wish Dubai had taken over.
The people who went bankrupt? Yes, that would have been a good choice.
Go support city
You are an idiot, DIC went bust
Bill Gates for me
Fsg have been fairly good owners they have put cash into the club in no small amounts .
kd had a season and a half then we finnished below everton newcastle ect ect .
club first one great former player second this club is more than one person
21 May 2012 00:13:18
every night i read this site when i get back from work for the past few seasons. we really have become a bunch of strange ppl, its almost like some want us to be so negative, and others are living in cookooland. we are yes one of the great teams in world football, and we have been mediocre for the past 15 years baring little joy with houllier and rafa years. the club as a whole not just the footballing side has slipped behind in the world we live in today. we have seen the changes when the premier league has given our football, tv revenue, advertising and marketing in football is worth huge sums, we have seen the changes foreign coaches have changed management style, tactics and training. currently i think fsg are really trying to bring a whole different way to run and manage a sporting enterprise. now doubt it all seems a little hectic and scary right now, but lets see. with a youngish manager in charge for a few seasons we may have a stable club for once. its seems young is a important thing to fsg, as i believe are thinking long term. for example at this moment in time we are a little pist, martinez has been linked along with avb, but say we were to get pep or klopp,( yes dreaming) what would the fans think of the owners then? we need some stablity as a club, from there i believe we can build, and rapidly also, as take away and add a few from the squad, on paper were not that bad. if the new man can be given a bit to spend for the next couple of windows, i think we could start moving up. if the stadium can be built or increased then revenue beging to run the club, along with champs league football, the youngsters coming through, we potentially be back at to the summit or round about in 4 years. if someone said to a red we can be champs in 4 years, but be supportive and patient now, would we not take it? so support the club, whoever the manager ( AVB, will probably get it ) or the players we sign maybe. and because we having be burnt once lets not be twice shy with fsg. if you really want to vent anything blame parry, he let us fall behind.
Sorry stoped redding when u said 15 yeas try 22 lad its time 2 wake up
Plonker support the club, otherwise jump ship, man city look good? or why not chelsea? we cant keep moaning bout the past, yes it makes us who we are today, but look ahead instead of whinging
21 May 2012 00:10:50
Why don't we get zidane as a manager...the mans a genius and well if a player is underperforming/has a bad attitude he can just headbutt them...
KingMiz
21 May 2012 00:00:29
According to the BBC and ITV, FSG want AVB and RVP asap.
Rigsby.
But they want to keep it on the QT.
Blair Mayne YNWA JFT96
I'm not fussed as long as we begin 2 WIN
2xboo
I heard any manager who is brought is going to ask for some R.E.S.P.E.C.T. and my also finds to "find out what it means to me"
Jolly Red