Liverpool Banter Archive March 21 2015

 

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21 Mar 2015 23:03:37
Hey lfc fans

Sundays game is going to be very simple to predict .

If liverpool play the same formation that's kept them
Solid with Sturridge upfront alone then you won't see goals and I expect a draw

If liverpool play two upfront which gives Sturridge more opportunities to score goals then lfc should win

I'm going for a 1-1 because I'm
Sure the manager wouldn't wanna change his formation back to a diamond when the 343 has worked for most games

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21 Mar 2015 23:34:40
One thing for sure, Man U will be up for it.

Getting carrick back is a boost for them so I see the battle being in midfield with them playing on counter.

Need to play tight game, keep the ball and focus on getting sturridge / sterling / lallana one on one, with shooting positions to negate the de gea effect.

Hopefully our midfield of cout, hendo and Allen can swing this.

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22 Mar 2015 02:56:53
Weirdly I don't think they will be. If we can get an early goal I think we'll walk this game. If we had taken one of our chances in the last game it would have been a different story and we're miles away from what we were then. They haven't improved and bar 1 good performance at home to a lack luster Spurs tgey have been awful. My prediction 3-0.

Hope I'm right!!!

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21 Mar 2015 21:26:33
The thing with Sterling as I see it, he has had one very good season, which was last season, this season for me he has been poor, is he worth £150.000 a week, IMO no, I would say at best £60.000 a week

The other issue for me is that the guy has very little technical ability and his ball control is non existent and I think his game is limited, yes he is still young and he has age and time on his side to improve his game.

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21 Mar 2015 23:28:09
Maybe he is asking for a bit too much, but £60k at most? Also, saying he has 'very little technical ability' and 'non-existent' ball control is a downright lie.

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22 Mar 2015 02:21:20
He's one of the most important players in the team for me, consistently making dangerous runs in attack, yet always getting back and breaking down play in defence. He is one of the most consistent in terms of making genuine assists (ie. ones that he's created through a killer pass), and his goal scoring is improving steadily.

Maybe not 150k, but I doubt that's what he's asking for, on the other hand he's worth way more than 60k, but frankly money isn't any of our specialty. I prefer to focus on is he good enough for the team and the answer for me is a resounding yes.

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22 Mar 2015 03:08:08
Alan, what are u talking about? There is nothing wrong with Sterling's technical ability and ball control. Its his poor decision making that let's him down and he tends to dilly dally a tad too long with the ball and that is what frustrates most supporters. The quality is clearly there, its the ridiculous wages that he is demanding that is the issue and what has turned fans against him.

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22 Mar 2015 06:58:40
Is Glen Johnson worth 100 grand a week? No but that is what he is getting.
I don't blame the player for asking for more. If you don't ask you don't get.
But I also like the fact that the club is finally not a soft touch handing out GJ's contract out to everyone.
Surely a bi-product of the club being more stingy is the current contract dispute with Sterling.
I can live with that.
Sterling has potential and is already a good footballer.
The contract should balance what he is now with what he could be in the future.
So an incentive based contract should be ideal for both parties in my opinion.

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21 Mar 2015 20:23:57
Why don't users of this site get that Sterling will not accept or decline a contract until the end of the season? Why are people not talking about Henderson, who has said pretty much the same thing? You would be a fool to believe what some of the papers are making of something this insignificant at this moment in time. If Sterling wanted to sign a contract, some of us may be forcing him away.

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21 Mar 2015 22:20:03
People are falling for the RS ...................

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{Ed002's Note - You are well wide of the mark.}

22 Mar 2015 00:27:28
I feel quite sorry for Sterling with all these experts putting their opinions in when really they hsve no clue as to what wages or conditions he is asking for.

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22 Mar 2015 00:59:48
Contracts expiring 2015
Flanagan
Johnson
Toure

Contracts expiring 2016
Henderson
Skrtel
Enrique
Lambert
Jones

Contracts expiring 2017
Sterling
Sakho
Lucas
Ibe
Allen
Borini

The lads got over 2 years left on his contract. This is why the club should keep stuff behind closed doors. I mean, what difference does it make if he signs now or in the summer? Flanagan and Henderson should be the immediate priority, yet I haven't heard anyone moaning about those 2.

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22 Mar 2015 02:36:13
out of those Hendo, Flano, Sterling, Sakho, Ibe need contracts. I hope Lucas stays for the rest of the duration of his current contract so that he can complete a decade at the club, which would be fitting.

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22 Mar 2015 03:20:44
IBE just signed a new 5 year deal

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22 Mar 2015 07:13:55
All expiring contracts from the 2017 list should be re-signed with the exception of Borini.
Henderson, Skertl and Toure should also be re-signed in my opinion.
Toure on a 1 year deal.

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21 Mar 2015 20:13:38
Hey Eds, bit quiet so thought I'd ask - is 113 disagrees to the Allen-bashing post some sort of record on here?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea, sorry.}

21 Mar 2015 23:44:50
Are you referring to my opinion on Allen? If so, please re-read and quote the "bashing". I apologise in advance if you're not referring to my post.

Oh, and I wonder who was responsible for the 160 disagrees in an hour for my post on the teams page. That page doesn't get 160 views a month haha. I wonder who it could have been ;)

Red Rum

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22 Mar 2015 09:27:37
It wasn't you Red-Rum, it was Chris in Tamworth on the Other Posts page a few days ago

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22 Mar 2015 13:20:20
No worries mate

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21 Mar 2015 14:25:37
So Brendan says Sterling wants 150k a week.
Sorry but he isn't worth anwhere near that figure. Still has a lot to learn and a lot of development is still required for him to become a top player.
Cash in on him and move on there is plenty out there that can fill his boots.

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21 Mar 2015 15:54:34
Que the we love sterling he will be world class better than than ronaldo give him whatever money he wants brigade.

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21 Mar 2015 17:36:11
Sell him.

I honestly believe he wants to stay, but I fear at some time he will peak too soon like Owen.

Anyway, his game is suited to our style, and like many others, when he does leave (which he will eventually, regardless of him potentially signing his contract), then he may just be found out - like many of the big boys (or big headed boys) who left expecting better things.

Hope he stays, but if he wants 150k (which I'm not convinced he does), then bye-bye lad.

The club had nurtured this kid though and it will be a kick in the town halls, but that's life.

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21 Mar 2015 18:09:24
He's far from the completed article, but very few players are at 20 years old, and a lot who are for one reason or another tend to peak early and be basically finished by 29.

Is he worth £150k a week? In so far as you can assign that sort of 'worth' to a footballer. Probably not.

Will someone offer that, or at least go higher than we have to date? Probably.

Do I hope we meet in the middle somewhere and keep him? Definitely.

A lad of his age and standing getting £100k+ a week may seem ludicrous and sometimes obnoxious to "ordinary" people (does to me anyway), but it's is the reality of football these days. And that's a reality that Liverpool FC have to live in. I'd rather keep Sterling on £100k+ a week than go and sign someone like Theo Walcott on £100k+ a week. And I'm certainly not going to castigate Sterling as the personification of football's current excesses over it.

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21 Mar 2015 19:01:37
It got nothing to do with him being 'worth' 150k a week. If someone else is willing to pay him 150k a week and stump up a transfer fee then that is his value, simple as that.

You are worth what someone is willing to give you, it seems obvious that another team sees his current/potential worth as 150k a week.

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21 Mar 2015 19:09:13
Problem is if you pay 120+ thousand to him how many players will want equal to him? There is a structure I thought, not going to be broken for him.

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21 Mar 2015 19:12:33
Give him a video of the last time we played utd and see if he thinks he is the finished article.

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21 Mar 2015 19:55:09
Hahahahahaha. very mean but sadly true

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21 Mar 2015 21:08:58
Huge potential and I mean huge but potential is one thing but reaching that is another thing. Would I pay someone with potential full wack at this stage probably not considering ibe ect

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21 Mar 2015 21:28:24
Difficulty the club has is that his agent will point out what Luke Shaw is getting up the road and will argue that Sterling must be at least worth that. It's not often I agree with Mourinho but he was spot on with what he said at the time with Man U paying that kind of money to Shaw.

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22 Mar 2015 03:27:49
Sterling could be a very good player in the future but should be offered a five year deal of 90 grand a week tops and if he won't sign it then we have to flog him in the summer. I would love to keep him as we need to keep all top players to progress but shouldn't be held to ransom. If he feels no loyalty then bye bye, we have a ready made replacement in IBE

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22 Mar 2015 07:07:35
I thought our model was to bring players through instead of wasting money on transfer fees (balotelli??).
If that is the case then we should be able to match teams in terms of wages due to the fact that we have saved money on the likes of Flanno, Sterling, Ibe etc???

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21 Mar 2015 13:10:39
Really doesn't look like Sterling will sign a contract. The fact that he has said leave it until the summer doesn't sound good. Thomo said it doesn't sound very promising. If he was going to sign one then he would of done so before now. Think he's off peeps and we will again try to replace one of our best players.

Thoughts?

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21 Mar 2015 14:11:00
If he does go. IBE.
I don't think he will go.
I think we should set up future contracts so that they are dealt with at the end of every year and not during the season anyway.
So I am happy that it has been put on the back burner until the close season.

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21 Mar 2015 09:58:28
There's only one way to settle this nonsense with Sterling - drop him to the reserves until he signs. If he won't - sell him to a foreign club. If the club backs down then other players will be next in the queue with their hands out.

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21 Mar 2015 10:11:14
If he´s being dropped to the reserves, then you´ll be sure that he won´t sign a new contract. He has helped LFC a lot, and this is how you would repay him?

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21 Mar 2015 10:46:43
Should we do the same with Henderson who has not signed?
He gave exactly the same reason as Sterling as well "want to concentrate on football".
Why are you not attacking Henderson?
This is all paper talk nonsense and more fool you for believing it.

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21 Mar 2015 11:23:08
It's all hyped up over Raheem. He has star quality, that sort of arrogance you need to be a top top player. Also he's English which never helps with our media. But us Liverpool fans who see him every week know he's still young, still hit and miss as every young player is.
I hope we can do what United did a while back, Sterling, Ibe, Hendo, Tinho. These lads should win things at this club they're very talented, and why I hope we lift that FA Cup this season. That'll give them the taste

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21 Mar 2015 18:26:10
@Leninred

We could wait till the summer (a mere 3 months away) and try to settle it then instead of alienating one of our brightest talents? The media has spun this story out to a cynical end, let the real action occur behind closed doors: the way I see it is he either signs and we keep a top class player only going to get better or he doesn't and, in that case, we sell for a gargantuan fee. We'll be grand no matter the outcome.

p.s. I hope he does sign though, I like the lads talent and attitude.

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21 Mar 2015 19:57:56
Drop Sterling to the reserves ?! Oh. K

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21 Mar 2015 20:33:11
Henderson isn't demanding 150K. Apart from which, as the future captain, if we pay Sterling 150K he will expect more and rightly so. That's why the line must be drawn here and more importantly an example must be made that the club will not cave in.

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22 Mar 2015 06:07:32
@red lenin

I don't disagree with your assertion that we should not pay over the odds, and break our wage structure, for one player. But I do not think throwing him in the reserves sends the right message to the player, the fans or reflects particularly well on us as a club. Why not wait until summer, thrash out the details then and, if an agreement cannot be reached, move the player on before the season begins? Less messy, more professional no?

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22 Mar 2015 07:11:45
I agree with you Lenin on the club not being held to ransom but the fact is that we do not know what has been offered, yet to be offered, what he asked for or is going to ask for.
It's all paper talk.
This happened the last time he signed his contract.
This site was full of "he is a greedy get" "he is off to man city" etc etc.
Then he signed.

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21 Mar 2015 09:36:27
One thing I find annoying is how Rodgers keeps playing Sterling at fullback when there's a lack of intensity upfront. He should always play in attack alongside Sturridge or in place of him in games where we need to press up front.

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21 Mar 2015 11:34:09
Ibe played well there and should start against united.

Red Rum

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21 Mar 2015 12:06:44
The more annoying thing for me is when BR keeps playing £27 million Lallana at wingback.

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21 Mar 2015 16:55:41
Are you boys also "annoyed" we keep winning matches ?

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21 Mar 2015 17:38:11
The most annoying thing for me is that Liverpool keep winning games.

Crazy kids on here.

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21 Mar 2015 22:36:29
It is not annoying BUT I agree that Sterling is wasted at the WB position. He should be very close in and around the box, causing the defence problems like he did vs City where he ran Mangala and Kompany ragged the whole game and made them look older than they actually are.

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21 Mar 2015 23:22:14
Should be able to play anywhere we want and play well for £150k a week don't you think?

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22 Mar 2015 06:10:43
@Omega

Yes he should - but if we want to see the very best of him as a player then would it not be prudent to play him in a position where he carries the most threat and has the biggest impact on matches and results? He has done well as a wing back and shown a remarkable ability to read the game, track back, work hard as and when required but, and this is no secret, he does far more damage further up the pitch in a central position. Add to the fact we have both flanno (though has a real bad injury) and Manquillo who can play right wing back and it seems silly to insist on playing Sterling in a position where we don't see half of what he can do as a player, all because of a rumoured wage demand.

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21 Mar 2015 08:38:11
You know when Jamie Redknapp says Gerrard should start.
That he shouldn't!!!!

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21 Mar 2015 09:16:40
Maybe he should start about 3:15pm.get the winner in Rodgers time.

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21 Mar 2015 06:57:28
Hope all this talk of Walcott is exactly that - talk.

Has all the attributes, but lacks the brain.

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21 Mar 2015 13:11:27
Injury prone for me

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21 Mar 2015 13:20:38
I don't think Theo is as bad as made out, He never was and never will be a winger. Arsene playing him there shows how out of touch he was with his squad. He's very good playing centrally on the last man and forces team to sit deep. On the odd occasions Arsene played him as a striker he's been clinical and scored almost a goal a game. Playing him out wide is a waste of his talent

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21 Mar 2015 17:28:29
Too lightweight and injury prone. Waste of money IMHO.

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21 Mar 2015 17:37:30
I like Walcott, might not be the best tactically but for the money required he wouldn't be a good purchase, injury prone too.

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21 Mar 2015 18:29:29
Bobatron is on the mark here. Walcott has suffered from having a lot of the credentials wingers have and, as a result, being played there. His best position is definitely central and the damage he does is far greater - if Sterling were to go (and I sincerely hope he doesn't) then he would be a decent shout as a replacement and, probably, than the fee it would take for us to sell Sterling (though by no means cheap).

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21 Mar 2015 20:04:59
I would rather we gave youth a chance than buy Walcott. The latter could surely not be argued to have been money spent wisely.

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21 Mar 2015 21:31:45
Again, if we sell sterling we would be wiser to spend on Fermino or Lacazette rather than someone like Walcott.

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21 Mar 2015 22:40:35
Walcott is not who we need either on the field or on the treatment table. He is not good enuff as a striker nor a winger and will b a sicknote on big wages and we cannot afford that type of investment because we already have one in Studge. Give Ibe/Marko/Ojo/Tex a chance and focus on bringing in a top class striker with all that money who can score goals and stay fit for a long time.

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22 Mar 2015 06:12:35
He would not be my first choice either but as a club we are hampered by a number of factors:

1) finances
2) players willing to move to our club
3) availability of top class players to fill the boots of Sterling if he were to leave

Personally I think we should do everything to keep Sterling - he is going to be a world beater in a few years, if we sell him I don't see us finding an adequate, long term replacement.

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20 Mar 2015 23:20:58
I always look at players who r knocking on the door for a big performance for my first goal bet and my head just keeps going for Danny sturridge not a big tip lads I know but throw in 2-0 along with it and we will be quids in that's my bet.COYR.Y.N.W.A 96.

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21 Mar 2015 09:26:15
Personally, I'd start with Sterling.

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20 Mar 2015 23:28:40
Can anyone name a player of ours past/present more frustrating then Balotelli? He has been awful, but still I think the next big game that this is the headline grabber for all the right reasons.
Utd this Sunday is set up for Mario to score a couple and he is capable of at least that, but as much as I can see it I also know it ain't going to happen.
No player has ever got me more frustrated

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21 Mar 2015 00:31:02
the most annoying thing about 'mad mario' is he can be an exellent player, but he is too needy.
By this I mean (IMO) due to his ego he plays best when a team is set up to play to his strengths.
problem with that is we have many players better than him and it would be a waste to build a team around him!

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21 Mar 2015 01:33:53
If Balotelli put his ego to one side and worked hard like everyone else, he could be a very good player for us. Fact is, he thinks he's better than everyone else. However, if there's one thing Rodgers is good at, that's knocking players down a peg or two by making them earn the right to play and appreciate their place in the team. The season is almost over and he's yet to show any improvement, but there's still time though. For me he's got around 10 games to work hard and prove himself if he wants a future here.

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21 Mar 2015 08:28:53
I have defended mario and criticised BR for not getting the most out of him but am starting to thing I am completely wrong and will have to eat my own words!

Shame because at times this season has shown application and signs it can be a turning point (recent performances seemed to show both ability and application), but still seems to do things a player just shouldn't do, his recent video is an example. But still think he offers more off the bench then any striker par sturridge, but unfortunately looks a managers nightmare.

But will hold my hands up and admit I was wrong about him being mis-managed or underused, shame as though although mad seems a likeable free spirit and shame as if applied he could be a top player!

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21 Mar 2015 08:45:02
Collymore has to be up there as 1 of the most frustrating apparently he thought he was as good as Ronaldo if you read fowlers book although I wouldn't go that far but if his attitude was better he would have got much more success imo.

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21 Mar 2015 17:40:55
Collymore was one of the most talented players I had watched in years when he arrived at Liverpool.

He was fantastic for Forest.

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21 Mar 2015 18:36:00
The biggest annoyance for me is that our own fans give Balotelli chance after chance yet hound other hard working, committed players. Balotelli is a liability and has proved that throughout his time with us - attitude, application, work rate, desire, etc etc all absolutely rock bottom yet fans want to give him another chance. It seems highly unfair comparing his treatment to, say, Markovic.

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