Liverpool Banter Archive July 21 2014

 

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21 Jul 2014 23:43:43
Remy to be announced Wednesday Origi to have a medical this week also

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21 Jul 2014 23:02:41
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{Ed002's Note - No. Have you given your DNA sample yet?}

You need a DNA sample from us too? Hmmm I've only got the sock that I've had under my bed since I was 14. It has been through many an episode of Baywatch with me. Also, can I have it back please once you've finished with it.

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There are 3 levels of nasty Dan:
1. Jesus christ
2. Wtf? That is just nasty
3. Omg my eyes!

Your sock is somewhere in between 2 and 3.

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Would 2) be a quote from Cleveland and 3) be a quote from Phoebe?!?

LOL

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I agree EMS, but it's like a friend to me now mate it's been with me through thick and thin. Though now its mainly thick due to being used so lovingly over the years.

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22 Jul 2014 10:51:45
You wouldn't want Harry's DNA Ed002

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21 Jul 2014 23:02:31
Hi eds and fellow reds,
Great job as always lads got to say site and am totally hooked,
Just want to say really happy with transfer activity so far and if we can get, lovren, origi and Remy who I think will b a great bit of business especially at his price, great finisher wiv pre league experience. I know you probably won't speculate but do you guys feel we will get a marquee singing in? Do we really need it?
Keep up great work lads

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If we add Lovren and remy to the list of players we already have signed, then the only position that needs attention is left back. A marquee signing for that position would be Ricardo Rodriguez. Other than that, we don't need anyone else, marquee or not.

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The atmosphere around Anfield is tents as they consider who's best as their marquee signing.

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21 Jul 2014 22:58:45
Hi Eds

Do you know if Dr Steve Peters is going to continue to be available to support the Liverpool players this season?

He's likely to be more sought after than most players this transfer window :o)

cheers

Dod

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{Ed002's Note - As far as I know he is still contracted to the club.}

He is contracted to LFC, but can still work with other individuals and teams not involved in club football.

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21 Jul 2014 22:47:14
Ahoy there eds,
Two questions please:

1) Could it be true that LFC have come from nowhere to rival Van Gaal's mob for the endless running and misplaced passes of Di Maria?

PSG are out of the picture, as far as the player is concerned.

2) Is there a credible plan/intention in place, and transfer/salary funding allocated, to address the defensive issues via the procurement of players, or is BR effectively hoping to outscore the opposition again?

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{Ed002's Note - (a) Not as far as I know but Real Madrid might be interested if Sterling was involved. (2) We don't discuss money.}

Pffft! di maria for sterling? no thanks.

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Di Maria is over rated. And I really do not want the club dealing with RM. They already have an eye on Sterling and would want him in any deal involving one of their players. Better to stay away from that lot. They seem to get whoever they want.

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21 Jul 2014 22:40:57
Im hearing a lot about hummels going to UTD for a fee supposedly less than what we are offering for lovren.

We could get double prizes attempting to hijack that move if it exists. A great player for a cheaper price and a boot into UTD.

We can offer CL league right?

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{Ed002's Note - But Liverpool has no interest in him.}

Who cares what utd r doing? Leave them to it! We will be more than competition for them.

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MikeD86, u can say that all u want but with the players looney van gaal looks set to sign, they will be a force to reckon with. Would not be surprised to see them challenge for the premiership next season. And as much as I hate to admit it, we would probably be the team making way from the top4 which I sincerely hope does not happen. Chelsea and City with their quality and depth are guaranteed top4 finish. 4th spot will go to arsenal as usual, so its between us and the mancs next season for the final spot in the top4.
Trust me, there will be a lot of worried LFC fans like me if the Hummels and Vidal deals go through.

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Who cares if they are a force.with the way we play we are always going to score goals maybe not as much with suarez gone though
What brendan has to do now is improve the defense with a cb and lb, if he does that then we have a good chance of winning the league

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21 Jul 2014 22:26:51
I am for the one who thinks its very important to sign an attacking leftback in the mould of Say. coentrao. with Stevie g dropping back as third CB as in the final games of the season and it will be helpful for such attacking players to stretch our play and put in wicked crosses in the final third. flanno has done well there in terms of defending but a proper lb with pace and wicked cross could have done a lot of damage.
p.s I am not the one slated Liverpool players

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That is exactly the reason why I want Bertrand. I don't think many here realise he is good going forward; to the point where he can actually play as a left midfielder. He makes very good ddecisions in possession as well. His only downside is he isn't as lightning fast as say Smith or Moreno. Pace means nothing if you blaze your crosses out for a throw in on the far side of the pitch though or fail to get a cross past the first defender.

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Dont agree with everything u say EMS but that is something I do!
We could certainly do worse than bertrand

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I'd love to simply see Smith given a chance. Although I have nothing against Bertrand either- solid defensively, solid going forward.

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22 Jul 2014 07:56:26
Sorry but Bertrand is just a no. He's okay going forward but hardly spectacular, and he's too slow to get forward much because he can't get back and defend in time

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21 Jul 2014 21:16:46
ssn reporting the deal for lovern are wide of the mark?

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21 Jul 2014 20:43:34
Hi eds, ssn are reporting that Liverpool have not put in a renewed bid for Lovren. Is this true? If so, how could we possibly be any closer to signing him as suggested? Many thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Point me at the post where I said Liverpool were "closer" to signing Lovren please.}

I think he means as suggested by today's media Ed not specifically you :-)

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{Ed002's Note - Ok.}

21 Jul 2014 21:45:55
Sorry ed, it wasn`t you who suggested so. Only the BBC and others. But so we`re all clear, nothing has changed then? Thanks again.

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{Ed002's Note - Right.}

21 Jul 2014 20:34:55
I am sorry to see that Steve Gerard has given up his England role. The loss is for ALL football supporters, regardless of colours. My very best wishes to Stevie G.

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21 Jul 2014 20:58:20
I'm made up.

The sooner our other players follow the better.

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Gerrard giving up for England is a big loss for the National team but a blessing for LFC as it would have been difficult for him to play a qualifying campaign, as well as champs league and premier league, and stay fresh.
It was the right decision, and only now will all the England fans who have slated him will realise how much they miss him .

As we are saying farewells, also wanted to say what a player Suarez was for the club and wish him well at his new club.

Finally, watching the programme on Alan Hansen the other night on the BBC and will sorely miss him on match of the day. I was in fan's paradise watching the documentary with him, Souness and Dalglish talking about the old days. Also brought back memories of 1986 when red nose didn't pick him for the world cup finals in Mexico. I couldn't believe it at the time, and almost 30 years later it seems even more ridiculous, have to say Hansen handled it with real class.

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21 Jul 2014 20:29:34
Hi eds,

So bbc, sky and co are reporting Lovren going to probably travel to America for a medical and a deal is nearly agreed. However a reporter on sky just said Liverpool have not bid for Lovren again. Does this mean lfc have just managed to agree a deal on the same amount of money as first bid or what(I know you don't like to bring figures into the equation)?
Also how likely out of ten do you think isco is- personally I'd say 3

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of any agreement for Lovren at this time. Isco, about 0.}

21 Jul 2014 20:16:54
Hi Eds and Reds,

I haven't posted in a while but I thought I'd throw my two pence in about our transfer activity thus far.

First of all, I believe we are fortunate enough to have a manager who is capable of realising what any player needs to improve and giving him the encouragement and sound advice to do that. So, for the people who are complaining about the lack of a "marquee signing" please consider the fact that we have bought the rough diamond for Brendan to mould and craft into the jewel that we all desire.

As for the actual signings however, I am rather pleased. Rogers obviously enjoys versatile players so that he can tweak our tactics and style, giving us the plan b that we so dearly lacked last season. Markovic, Can and Lallana all fit into this mould and so can be utilized wherever is necessary during the game. I personally think Markovic is going to be a fantastic signing. Obviously he is still young, but he has great pace and more importantly a good touch while running at pace. As well as that he seems to be able to play balls right in the 6 yard channel, which Sturridge will thrive off of. Lallana is someone I have been a fan of the past 3 years and let me tell you he seems to get better and better every season. We all know Coutinho cannot play every game and I think that Lallana fills his void perfectly, although to be honest I think as the season progresses we may see him take coutinho's place in the starting eleven. Finally, I think Lambert is an absolute steal. Not only does the man have Liverpool coursing through his veins but he agains give us a very different option up front and in my opinion the perfect back up striker for this season.

However, I do have one concern and one concern only; why are we buying so many new players? I know that we will obviously be competing on four fronts as it were but in reality that is a minimum of 6 games extra. People are calling for this player and that player but why do we need so many more players to improve when the current crop finished 2nd, yes 2nd, in arguably the toughest league in the world. Now I know, we have lost our best player and talisman in Suarez and he will be hard to replace. However, we should not overcompensate by buying players we do not need especially considering our precocious standing in terms of FFFP. We also need only look as far as Spurs to see what can happen if you make too many changes.

With all this being said it is obvious that our defence still needs shoring up and I think that Lovren and Bertrand (I would have preferred Rojo) for the prices that are being touted would be perfect, especially with Rogers at the helm and the crop of talented youngsters we have coming through our ranks.

Anyway, please feel free to comment with your own thoughtful opinions.

YNWA

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You've said all there mate!

Love the name by the way.

Regarding all the new signings, I think what Brendan is trying to remedy, and is very near to, is two first-11-quality players for every position.

So IMO, he's not looking to make too many changes at once, just ensure back-up in case of injury (/bans).

Remember Hendo's red card last year? Many cited that as the reason for losing out on the title. Imagine if Can had been at the club?

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Nice points Notorious. In answer to your Spurs reference - the difference is BR has established his way of playing on the club. Levy tried to play fantasy football with the spurs squad, and brought a new manager in at the same time. It may look like we're buying too many players, but ask yourself this: what did our bench offer last season? It's all good my friend. Patience.

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Stoneage and BigBadBen I understand what you're saying and I agree, it definitely seems that Brendan is building a squad rather than a team and although I believe that our 1st XI is weaker than last year (purely due to losing Suarez) I think our squad will be significantly stronger.

In regards to your point though BigBadBen I feel that while BR has indeed established a style of play at Liverpool it does not detract from the fact that these new players will not be used to this style as they have not being playing under it yet. I will say though that I feel having three players from the same team (Southampton) under a manager with a similar philosophy will indeed help.

I think if everything comes together as planned we'll be looking at a top four finish again and dare I say a cup to add to our trophy cabinet!

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My 2 pence is. . if we can improve the defence we will be as strong if not stronger as last season simply due to an improved squad.
we won't be short of goals with sturridge, remy, sterling, gerrard, coutiniho, lallana and markovic all chipping in

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Good post/responses guys.

At this moment in time - if we were going into our first game - we could use 10 of the 11 players that finished last season. We're not reliant on 4 or 5 players coming in and gelling to the first team squad (obviously they will have to but can be eased in over the first weeks / months).

I think we've bought a few established players and have excieting players with huge potential coming in; we're not just set for this year but many in the future IMO.

The squad age is also v v good.

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21 Jul 2014 22:56:38
In a nutshell we are looking for a quality squad of players who can compete on all fronts in all competitions. We also need quality players to come off the bench and have an instant impact on the game. For the last 10 years we have not had a quality bench of players who can do this. Other top teams have these standard of players on the bench which make the difference throughout and especially later in the season when rotation is essential. This is what will possibly make us league champions over the coming years as opposed to 2nd.

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very good post, but what you say about the rough diamond to mould you are right but a top signing will lift the team and won't need to be moulded, we let suarez go to barca and with their attack they will win everything messi, suarez and neymar, dream team, but hey we can mould players right which takes time and with our attack of sturridge, sterling and lambert then i'm sure we can cope against teams like barca, i'm not happy with the money we spent on mediocre 1st teamers, lallana never signed to be a sub can is very young but he will become a good player next season with a few good games this season, I don't want us to buy players for the sake of it or because we have the money, iwant us to buy players so we can make a proper challange at winning the prem, you talk the deafeatest talk in we will finish in the top 4 is that what you want our club to strive for a top 4 finish, well I don't I want us to win it and when we had suarez we nearly did it, pity about the defence letting us down and yet we stll have not bought a defender just more attackers w, we should have kept suarez and built around him, he has gone so we move on but not 1 of the new players excite me, but they do you and many others on here, low expectectations, shanks said it best when he said 2nd is no where, unless a topplayer is bought we won't get in the top 4, i'm still waiting for a defender because last season showed the ones we have are not good enough, shanks bought big ron yates as his 2nd signing and look where he got us

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I personally don't think the team is worse off than last year. Especially not if we get Remy.
I think our tactics were too forward thinking in getting the ball to Sturridge and Suarez and pushing the fullbacks high leaving skrtel and his partners exposed.This at times (villa) was suicidal. I think we will have a much more balanced game this year. I don't think we miss suarez that much due to his inability to score in the bigger games. He was simply marked out of them, but we tried tried tried to feed him rather than other players the ball(The Ronaldo/Portugal Complex)
I must admit I'm a little worried about the sheer amount of purchases. But I don't see our first team changing too much. Lovren, Markovic and Lalana I think will be 3 starters. The rest will be integrated into the squad and learn our style of play over time. So we won't do a spurs and make wholesale changes to our midfield, which should still see henderson pressing and gerrard sitting

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21 Jul 2014 19:15:11
Does anyone know if the Roma game is on tv on Wed.

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It's on BT sport

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BT sport

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It's on BT Sport 1 - weds night / thurs morning - 00:30hrs.

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Its on BT 0030 kick off Thursday morning, a late night for all that watch unless you are in the US.

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All the matches are on LFC GO which you can subscribe to through the club website. Much cheaper than BT and 'every little helps the club' ;)

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21 Jul 2014 22:11:57
Or your working in a crisp factory along the M58 on nights, like I will be doing. Just hope the signal to my phone is good enough to watch now!

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21 Jul 2014 19:09:03
Hi eds with talk of Kolo Toure and Agger going. How many centre backs do you see us signing I know we are close to signing Lovren. Or do you expect Kelly someone else at the club to be fourth CB?

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{Ed002's Note - None - the club has plenty of centre backs on the books.}

RB Johnson (reserve Kelly)
RCB Lovren (reserve Skrtel)
LCB Sakho (reserve Agger)
LB Moreno (reserve Flanno)

Two first team players for every position + the many many young uns coming through in case of injury, we'll be right

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What's this about toure leaving?I'd much rather skrtel go

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21 Jul 2014 18:35:51
hi eds

is there any other left backs that we have serious interest in, and do you know if jack robbinson will get a chance to play this season, he was getting talked about more than flanno was when they were both in the side

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{Ed002's Note - Done to death.}

22 Jul 2014 10:25:35
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i only asked because I've only heard about moreno, davies and bertrand,, i'm not asking about all the other names we ha been linked with but the ones we look to sign, and if we have only looked at 3 left backs then we are in trouble in that position

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{Ed002's Note - You can go back and read about Rojo as well. Obviously as Spurs have beaten Liverpool to Davies they need to consider other options.}

21 Jul 2014 12:01:29
Ed's, do you fear we're making the same mistakes Tottenham made last year? Too many new players shaking up our team. Its going to take a while for these players to settle in. Would love to see this question a poll of the day

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{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get involved in this.}

The difference is that we have bought players with premier experience and a couple for the future.

We haven't finished yet. A massive signing us on the cards.

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Spurs just didn't buy the right players. On top of that, they haven't exactly failed yet. They just didn't have as good a season as before which was always likely losing Bale regardless of how many players were bought.

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21 Jul 2014 21:46:58
yea i'm seriously worried squad now has no world class players and the new signings will take time to settle especially the youngsters.

Have a bad feeling about this season 4th is going to be a big ask

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21 Jul 2014 19:59:44
All good squads have at least 4 strikers/forwards. So we have Sturridge, Lambert, Remy and Borini at the minute. I'm happy with that considering we mainly play with one out and out striker.
The fact we're looking to sell Borini is puzzling and I feel it would leave us short if we get injuries. It's good he seems willing to fight for his place is good for us.
We need squad depth this season. Was awful looking at out bench last season and not having a plan B due to the lack of back up quality.

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{Ed002's Note - Markovic, Sterling, Ibe, Origi to come.}

You are forgetting Origi, who I think is imminent. That will give us 4 out and out strikers.

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Origi will be loaned back and markovic, ibe and sterling are far more likely to be used as midfielders or wingers than as strikers

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21 Jul 2014 18:35:21
Edd002 I did nothing but.praise rojo prior to the WC, then when he performed at the WC, the same posters wanted him. Slightly amusing tbh

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21 Jul 2014 18:35:54
Hi Eds

In my opinion Lovren will be by far the most important signing of the summer so far. Would you agree? Don't get me wrong we have spent most of the money wisely, other than Origi which seems a little strange but defence was in need of strengthening I think.

Just leaves the much discussed left back slot now. We're all p####d off with the Moreno talks. Does Betrand still seem the likeliest to you mate at this stage?

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I said a while ago its the signing I was most excited about as it would be the signing that could potentially make the biggest difference. I stand by that.

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Lovren would be the best signing so far for me. On paper at least. Who knows what left back will come in and what impact they will make. Likewise who knows what impact Lallana, lambert and markovic will make. It's going to be an interesting season at least.

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21 Jul 2014 18:19:14
So it seems borini wants to stay
I can't blame the lad. who doesn't want to play
For the mighty reds. the kid got the talent to make it
Just needs some more focus and a little bit of luck
And he always gives 100% and works his socks off!
And I have to give him a lot of respect for wanting to stay and fight for his place.

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I thought that was meant to be a poem at first but it tailed off at the end

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21 Jul 2014 18:01:08
Is there still interest in Rojo, Ed?

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{Ed002's Note - I explained the previous interest but the posters absolutely trashed him - usual "not Liverpool quality" nonsense.}

I rate him but think he would get several red cards. Very good defender but can lose his head from time to time

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Yes, we all absolutely trashed him didn't we:

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{Ed002's Note - Yes, until hye played in the World Cup - the same with Hector Moreno. Try not to be an idiot.}

I didn't see him at Sporting, but I heard he was a good CB, at LB for Argentina he impressed me quite a bit. Do you agree with the posters who don't want him?

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To be fair most posters didn't trash Rojo or Hector Moreno. The latter was a passing link and most people said they hadn't seen Rojo play. Bertrand yes. Unfairly IMO.

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{Ed002's Note - They were trashed as most past, present and potential future players are trashed. There are some unbelievable embarrassing posts sometimes.}

Of course that's not the reason Liverpool didn't go after them
What club would be daft enough to listen to the fans? ;-)

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Lads the Ed's probably won't put through the posts where these boys get trashed so we have no idea really what gets said that doesn't get through.

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{Ed002's Note - Right.}

If it isn't posted they are not a poster then? They are a failed poster, bereft of life, an expired poster. Their words are pushing up the daisies.

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21 Jul 2014 17:45:42
Can someone please explain to me the logic behind sending Aspas out on loan to a Spanish club?
If the club really do want him back then why not a loan to an English club to help him adapt better.
He already has good technique and a decent touch but it is especially the physicality of the EPL that he struggled with.
Last pre-season he banged in a few goals and I had hoped for more from him, unfortunately for him he needed more time to adjust and having two top strikers ahead of him he was never going to get that time.
Or does this possibly have something to do with the Moreno bid?

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{Ed002's Note - The club would rather sell him, that is not possible so a loan to buy is the next best thing.}

Mate the lad himself has basically said the PL is not for him. Some players don't adapt. This is the best for everyone and Liverpool could yet get most of their money back.

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Why buy him then? I was aaying he wasnt good enough before we bought him, same with borini, they should give me a job i'd save them millions

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22 Jul 2014 10:26:38
Ed002, hoping you can help out.

How will the transfer fee of Aspas be determined if the loan deal has an option to buy?

One can only assume that LFC will want to make some money out of the deal.

1. Will the fee be based on how Aspas performs for Sevilla or would a fee already have been agreed should it become permanent?

2. Do you know if Sevilla had to pay a loan fee?

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{Ed002's Note - The option to be will be at a price already agreed and in the contract. I have not checked on the loan fee but would expect they paid a small amount.}

21 Jul 2014 17:38:09
Gerrard. The only reason I'd ever support England.

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There is still Studg,, Hendo, Lambert, Sterling, Lallanam, Johnson and Flano - and perhaps Ibe (and others) will get England chances next year.

On the down side, I expect Rooney will now get the nod.

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21 Jul 2014 16:03:17
With Stevie G today mentioning that he has a year left in his contract. Do you realistically envisage him doing a Lampard and going to the US to finish off his career?

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I don't see Gerrard struggling to get into our team like lampard did for Chelsea. The role Gerrard plays for us is one he can play for another 2-3 years

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21 Jul 2014 16:25:55
No I don't believe Gerrard will ever play for another club he will have a job for life in various capacities at Anfield

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21 Jul 2014 16:45:11
I feel he'll end his career at Liverpool. It could be similar to Carra. He's a legend who deserves a fitting farewell at Liverpool

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I expect him to play on for 2 more years and then join Brenden as assistant manager.

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With Hodgson in charge, England are not going to do anything for the next two years. Gerrard would be wasting valuable energy on England. He could play for a succesful Liverpool side for the next two to three seasons. Good choice

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Couldn't see Gerrard leaving. Maybe at the end of the upcoming season would be good to offer him a player/coach position, his presence alone is invaluable to the club.

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21 Jul 2014 15:27:55
Steve G retires from international football.

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21 Jul 2014 15:19:55
Why are peoples thoughts on Stevie retiring from international football.

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Good idea for him

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Made up, concentrate on LFC and forget failing in internationals!

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Don't care really

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We'll see a good year from him now with the extra brakes.

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Him and Carra should of done this together years ago.
Best thing for him, and us. Concentrate all efforts for LFC.

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Very good news for Liverpool, not so great on a national level, the current squad being so young could really benefit from Gerrard's experience and leadership skills. Can only think of Rooney being the new captain and leader figure which certainly doesn't fill one with confidence.

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21 Jul 2014 18:05:51
I agree with him retiring and also with him remaining as an ambasador as his influence over the young players will be massive.
I am gutted he never broke the outfield record but he's behind another man of true England passion in the form of Beckham.
I think it will give him another season at Liverpool and can see him playing for 2-3 years at club level now.

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21 Jul 2014 19:24:35
Anfield Andy I agreed with what you was saying up until you mentioned david beckham he's nothing but a over hyped righted footed nancy boy that would rather parade around in his underpants and why your probably thinking off the comeback don't even mention that bloody freekick YNWA.

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Achilles, Yours and Andy's statements are not mutually exclusive. Beckham is both an over-hyped right footed nancy boy, as well as be a man of true England passion.

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21 Jul 2014 15:18:46
Gerrard has retired from international football.

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21 Jul 2014 14:58:24
Seeing as Madrid are eager to get some cash to fund their Galactico strategy of buying James, are unwilling to sell Isco outright (it seems), and at 31 years old, Pepe is reaching the end of his career at left-Centre-Back, do you think there's a chance that they'd be open to doing a deal on Varane, given he's really a RCB? Maybe with Agger as makeweight?

I'm sure it'll be a hefty price, but I think it's worth seeing if a deal is possible.

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{Ed002's Note - Liverpool has shown no interest in Varane - Liverpool are after Lovren.}

Shame, can see him being as good as Kompany for a PL team

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Can't see any reason why Madrid would ever want to let Varane go, he looks like he could be on his way to becoming the best centre half in the world

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21 Jul 2014 14:10:57
Hello Ed's, I posted this morning, just wondering if you actually received my post. Cheers

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{Ed002's Note - I can see it but if it has not been posted an ed must have deleted it - not me.}

It came over to the other site I have posted it there feel fee to have a look

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Absolutely ..................

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22 Jul 2014 10:15:13
Cheers Ed002, apologies reet but what do you mean by other site? and were do I access it? Cheers

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22 Jul 2014 10:16:50
Cheers Ed002, apologies reet but what do you mean by other site? and were do I access it? Cheers

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21 Jul 2014 13:01:48
Edd002 hummels is a very good defender and obviously not heading.to Liverpool. Can I ask mate if he's PL bound?

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{Ed002's Note - Manchester United are trying very hard to get a deal done.}

If they get Hummels for 16 million pounds, it would be daylight robbery. How can Dortmund let him go for such a low fee ed? And are Chelsea planning looking to sign Lovren?

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{Ed002's Note - Chelsea's interest in a centre back is elsewhere, I know nothing of this.}

Ppl go nuts over Hummels but as the world cup showed - he isn't all that quick.

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Nickofella, Hummels may not be quick but like Lovren, he reads the game well and is a leader. The mancs have a world class centre half on their hands, someone who will galvanise their whole backline. This is the best signing they will have made this summer.

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Sami hyppia wasn't quick either.

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21 Jul 2014 15:30:42
Are Chelsea interested in Lovren eds?

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{Ed002's Note - RTP.}

Hypia was better in every way though

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21 Jul 2014 15:45:40
Rio Ferdinand hammered into hummels in his analysis during the world cup did Anyone notice that I don't think Rio rates his and vidic first replacement, personally I think he is a very good defender.

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I just don't think Hummles will suit England to be honest. His reading of the game isn't so good as to compensate for the fact he turns like a double decker bus and is pretty slow. I think United will play deep with Van Gaal so he probobly won't be caught with a long ball over the top. He is still relatively young for a top defender and could become a very good prem centre half.

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He's one of the best defenders in the game

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Calmdown. You opened up your corny stating he isn't suited to the premier league, but close saying he will go on to be a very good defender. which is it?

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21 Jul 2014 11:45:30
Ed I can't actually find anywhere where you've said if you believe the Moreno deal is or isn't back on as a possibility amidst all the reports?. I know it was likely then off and we moved on but to your knowledge are we still trying to get a deal done or is it completely dead in the water?

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.}

22 Jul 2014 10:10:59
I do not see the deal happening mate. If the player really wanted to come, and BR wanted him so badly, the club would have agreed to Sevilla's payment terms by now. And didn't Ed002 say something about Moreno holding out for a move to Real when Chelsea tried to strike a deal? don't want a player who will throw his toys outa the pram the minute Real come calling, which will eventually happen. Rather the club looks elsewhere.

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21 Jul 2014 13:31:49
Anyone know who will wear no 7 this year? Will it be Markovic? Or Remy or maybe another signing? Thoughts everyone?

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That would be Reus or Isco I suspect.

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Reus and Isco won't come to Liverpool. However, I believe it will be given to Sterling, unless he wants to keep 31. I can't see Remy or Markovic(who wants #50 apparently) wearing the 7 shirt. Maybe Sturridge.

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21 Jul 2014 13:21:47
Divock Origi is younger than Kris Peterson. Mind = blown.

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I really do not see what is so special about Origi. Rather give Peterson a chance up front than waste another 10 million pounds on a player we don't need.

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21 Jul 2014 15:14:50
I disagree IB, to get Origi now for that price and leaving him at his club for more games/experience will be to our advantage. This lad will be a very good player in the coming years and in my opinion will be better than his fellow national players Lukaku & Benteke. He appears to be more composed on the ball and has the confidence to beat opponents and release the ball when required when he sees the pass. If he continues getting a starting place in the national squad he will get better and his value will increase rapidly. All in all a very good acquisition by LFC if he does sign.

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It is a risk but think he will prove to be an excellent player and at his age will probably be worth a lot more over the years, unless he gets a bad injury

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21 Jul 2014 12:59:14
Don't think it will matter a great deal getting new defenders in when I think a good defencesive coach would make more diffrence with the same players. We can get better players but without the right coaching it's a waist of money.

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I think it was more to do with the shape of the team than the defensive coach why we shipped so many goals. Personal errors also contributed a lot more than they should have though and that's why they are being replaced.

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21 Jul 2014 12:50:51
Just a question for my fellow reds, with our high back line and our pressing style of play do you think that lovren will be a good fit? I haven't seen much of him but when I have seen him he looks quite slow. This isn't an attack on the lad just wanted your opinions on him. Cheers

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Sorry mate I disagree I think he's an excellent defender and has all the attributes to be a perfect fit for us next to sakho. He always seemed quick to me.

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Its Lovren's reading of the game that makes him such a good defender. He is our new Sami Hyppia. He may not be very fast, but he is physically very strong and won't get bullied by the likes of Benteke and Lukaku. Does not have a weak foot and very comfortable on the ball. Pace is not that important for a defender as long as he reads the game well, and Lovren proved that at Saints. Carra and Hyppia were slow as snails, but they were still very good defenders.

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Southampton played with high line.

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21 Jul 2014 18:55:01
Thanks for your replies, seems he is very highly rated then, hopefully him and Sakho form a good partnership

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21 Jul 2014 12:27:42
I have to say, I am more excited by our younger players than our buys.
We have a.wealth of talent in McLaughlin, kelly, suso, texeira, ibe, peterson, Flanagan( still very young.and raw). i'm more excited about suso, texeira and.ibe because im.confident they will turn into top drawer players. I hope some get.loans and some stay and impress. I still hope we donot buy origi because why not give petetson the chance? Who will be a better player IMO and save us 10million.

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They are at least good enough for us to stop buying squad players for a couple of million here and there to just make up the numbers.
A few might even stop us buying players in the £20m+ region when needed.

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Peterson has looked good in preseason and deserved a spot in the US tour, but saying Origi is better is doing both of them a disservice. Different players, different styles, and Origi is worth that money considering where he's likely to go.

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We need a good squad and Rodgers has to be shrewd with his signings to get more good players in the squad, if you've forgot about this, look at our bench for all season, wasn't good enough and with more games this season, can't spend all our budget on a few expensive players

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A lot of people are going overboard about our youngsters again here. Half of the players mentioned need to develop in first teams elsewhere. Remember when we relied on a youthful Sterling, Suso & Wisdom in BRs first season? We were bottom half. Sterling only really came good 14-18 months later and he's always been considered a cut above. McLaughlin is nowhere near first team level, Kelly hasn't got back to his level pre injury and Teixeira has had one 10 minute cameo which is not enough to suggest he's going to make it. Suso just as likely to leave as stay as he doesn't influence games. Ibe looks the pick but BR is seemingly prepared to let him develop in someone else's team not his. You cannot compete for top 4 and CL with 6-8 kids in your squad. I don't consider Can a kid btw as he's already been blooded at a high level and done well. Ditto Markovich.

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21 Jul 2014 12:14:48
Hi all,

Any news on the injury to Can?

I thought he was pretty decent the small amount I saw. Looks a promising alternative to Stevie G when we need a bit more energy.

Cheers all

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21 Jul 2014 11:45:26
Andre Wisdom to go on loan for the season with West Brom. Good move for both club and player in my opinion.

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21 Jul 2014 11:31:28
News that Daniel Agger is unsure over his future at the club

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Hardly news.

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21 Jul 2014 16:58:38
Just passing on a bit of news popeye ;)

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21 Jul 2014 10:28:24
Judging by Ian Ayre's success in the tranfer market plus his sexy young girlfriend. It looks like he has found his mojo again. Things are looking up!

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21 Jul 2014 09:13:05
Gday Eds, happy Monday.
With the looming incomings of Lovren, Remy & Origi for the future it seems our buying will be almost finished and with a quality LB I will be very very happy with the busness this window. My questions are about outgoings as these will now be essential for bringing in a few quid and lowering the wage bill.

Reina: Is sb expected to buy him? Atletico interested maybe or who?
Skrtel: Does interest from Gala remain? Expected to be sold after Lovren arrives?
Toure: Any idea if Liverpool are willing to cancel his contract to let him leave?
Coates: Any interest at all? Anyone? Bueller?
Brad Jones expected to leave as well Eds?

Best of luck to Lucas, Borini & Assaidi assuming their deals go through.

Thanks a million!
(PS: I have looked them all up using search function, just want the latest on how things stand, cheers!)

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.}

Am I the only one, who actually thinks that we should keep Borini?

1. Last summer every second comment regarding Borini here was like: "whole 12/13 season his injuries set him back, so he did not have proper game time, so loan to Sunderland will benefit him, and then we will have someone who's proven in EPL, and still young and promising."

2. His 12/13 season was indeed unsuccessful, but he indeed was very unlucky with injuries. However, the few games he had, were ok. He was sharp, he created chances, he scored in the end of the season (not much but still, he got the finishing), and a lot of times he hit posts.

3. His loan at Sunderland. He was very important player there, scoring very important goals against very big teams, and the fact that Sunderland are ready to pay 4 millions above his market price, only proves that.

4. He returns after his successful loan, to his main team, where he did not actually had a chance to play an injury-free game to prove his usefulness. And now everyone says - sell him, we do not need him, he's bad. Why? How can you decide? What else did he have to do, for you to accept him? Yes, he did not score 30 for Sunderland, but is maybe that has to do something with other players as well?

5. Even now, Borini looks like a more intelligent player, than Remy, who you all want. I mean take finishing. Borini always trying to hit the corner, to fool the keeper. Remy more often relies on the shot power. Also Remy is less likely to pass. Borini is always more calm and less emotional. Finally, I have seen Borini interviews. Borini gave me impression of a real intelectual, who knows what he's doing, and knows he can progress and improve. I did not see many Remy's interviews, but I know he did have attitude issues. Do we really need that again?

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Zaibys, that is the best assessment of the Borini/Remy argument I've seen on here and I completely agree.

Sadly, the club does not so we'll just have to trust Rodgers' judgement.

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Zailbys, the only explanation is that over the last 12 months, Liverpool have improved a lot too. In particular, our strikeforce, so he may not get as many games as he would have done if we finished in 5th last season.

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21 Jul 2014 13:39:32
I agree m8 he has not been given a proper chance to play for the club whereas j.allen has had chance after chance as had S.downing and of course Hendo who has now proved himself to be good enuff when he was getting slated as was Lucas.

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It's a move that suits all party's that's why it will go through.
1. It suits us to cash in on a player that has never been successful for us yet. (Harsh but true)
2. It suits Sunderland as he was good for them.
3. It suits borini as he needs regular game time to progress, he will get that at Sunderland and not Liverpool.
I wish him all the best I really like him as a player.

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21 Jul 2014 09:27:11
wrote this the other day but it never got approved so anyway, he's the abridged version

am I the only one that would be content if the squad stayed the same as it is right now? I think we have the depth accross the board to cope fine this season - even the CB and LB situation are manageable, CB less so but we would cope but we have plenty of attacking players now and i'm more than happy with our signings thus far

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21 Jul 2014 09:42:39
As good as it has been, a centre back is a must, and I think Lovren is just the right player for the style football LFC plays.

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This post is meant to be a joke right?
CB and LB were the 2 most important positions that needed improving apart from increasing the squad size. Skrtel's shirt tugging antics will cost us dearly next season. Him and Kolo need replacing. Apart from Enrique who is inconsistent and injury prone, we do not have competition for LB. Lovren and a new LB are a must if we want a rock solid defense next season.

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Tbh in my original post I think I was more mad at everyone piping on about offensive targets and said all I wanted was a CB. - having said that, is in need but the situation isn't dire - like I said, 'cope', whys everyone so negative, probably the only one who thinks there's nothing wrong with Toure also, getting old and it shows but its all manageable
Theres a lot of Centre halfs at the club, unless there's a mass exodus there will be a lot of people pushing for Skrtels position regardless of incomings

To suggest we don't have left back competition is a bit ridiculous.  If anything, flanagan is proof that less experienced and less able players will play above their ability to get in to the team. every player that is capable of playing left back is on roughly the same level or has something to prove, enrique, flanagan, smith and johnson, other than the two already mentioned we have another two right backs so its not like we are desperate

We could do with a left back, but that hasn't changed since riise left and we have coped since riise left so there's no reason we won't survive now

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21 Jul 2014 12:33:13
I still want to see Sakho and Agger partner up in the centre. I don't understand why two left footed CBs is impossible but two right footed ones is workable.

I'd like to see something done about the LB position. Aside from that I'm happy with the team

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21 Jul 2014 09:17:28
Finally today my exams came to an end
thank you all for your wishes
double happiness for me as turned 15 today

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21 Jul 2014 09:43:46
Happy birthday mate, a sensible head you got over those shoulder.

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I agree, Markovic and Sterling really are the only senior players with enough pace to play as a winger, or to stretch defenses in such a way, I feel we need at least one more.

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Ibe maybe?

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How about Ibe? Just as quick as Sterling?

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21 Jul 2014 09:14:39
Hello mates
I am one of those who astutely supports Brendan (blindly too). But the constant complaints I get is we buying to many wingers and yet being linked with more (Bakkali, Kalou, Milner. ). But on deeper thought I think we have only two winger in Lazar and Raheem if ibe goes on loan. Other people include Lallana
My confusion now lies here, Is lallana a winger? wasn't he bought to compete with coutinho? If not why aren't we going after someone who can fight for places with him(coutinho)?

Nice job 002

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Lallana is an attacking midfielder. He is best centrally but more experienced in senior football out wide.

The question is; do you play Coutinho in the hole with Lallana on the wing OR Lallana in the hole with Markovic on the wing? Personally I'd rather have Coutinho in the team than Markovic because he is slightly older and has already adapted to the league.

Most of Brendans signings are versatile though and can comfortably play multiple positions.

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Suso?

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Liverpool will not be blindly playing a 4-3-3 formation. It will chop and change depending on the opposition. It's annoying people keep saying Brandan will play 4-3-3 as it's his preferred formation.
I doubt we will play 4-3-3 vs arsenal for example. I think that's asking to be murdered in the midfield as happened at the emirates.

Lallana can play a multitude of positions, so can can, and by the looks of things markovic has an adaptable game. This is what BR has said he likes in his purchases.

I'll expect them all the be rotated well. In games where we need more ball retention, I'd expect lallana to play as his passing seems to be more pushed towards posession, where as coutinho may be played in games where we need to break down tough opposition eg stoke, as his passing is more incisive but he'll give the ball away more.

Given what I'd hope would be a successful season in the league and all cups, you're looking at over 50 games, this will be more than enough to fit in sufficient game time for all these players. Also I think BR will be drilling into the squad that it's not about a short term goal of getting certain players 38 games a season and getting nowhere.But playing the right formations, building towards a successful future over the coming years.

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21 Jul 2014 10:38:35
If an award were to be given on this banter page for the most active poster it would go to you EMS
You're always available!
How do you do it?
No offence, but do you have a job? or does your job create time for you?
Just curious!

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Excellent post Bobatron. That's basically what I meant with my last line, only expanded on and worded impeccably.

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Adebotg, I have a desk job in design Engineering. I check the site all the while and I'm a fast typer! Every tea break and lunch break when the other guys are drinking coffee I'm trawling through the posts on here!

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21 Jul 2014 09:01:00
Everyone and his dog want to splash the big cash on a signing, but who?
I don't see many players in the bracket of superhero, the papers this morning are saying Woodward at Manchester United is saying the same 'we are ready to splash the cash' but where?
Messi?, no, Ronaldo?, no, after that I see a lot of unproven in the premier league players with fancy names and distorted reputations that did next to nothing in the world cup and didn't do any better than any of our squad players last year if you read into stats yet half the fanbase wants the Suarez money spent on two worldies, I merely ask who because from where i'm sitting some of the bigger options have found homes and one or two of the older proven types like Robben come with either baggage or high wages,
Dont get me wrong i'd love us just to be signing quality but are we not doing that already? granted some of it unproven but quality nonetheless
Last year some people forget withour Suarez we still won games and looked a very very good side and as much as he's a loss and he had an amazing season he also went missing in a few games when his touch and his imagination went astray, the chances were still created, a finisher or two would rectify that and by the looks we have that near enough sorted
Im looking forward to this season just to see how we fare with the new squad and to see how much further on these young players progress,
Exciting times YNWA JFT96

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21 Jul 2014 08:55:53
hello eds,
if at all we r going to bring in a striker it would be better to bid for players like BENTEKE and BALOTELLI.
It's just an opinion may be I am wrong(hope so)
as I believe in rodgers if he plans to bring in Remy.

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Did you watch benteke last season or ballotelli or for that matter of fact Remy? I would bet that the answer to all 3 of these is no.

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21 Jul 2014 08:50:58
Don't know why people are saying Isco is not an option because he plays the same position as Coutinho? Does anyone seriously expect Coutinho to play every single game? We're playing a hell of a lot of fixtures this season and need 2 first choice players for every position.

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He is not needed because we also have suso texeira and lallana for that role

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Isco is fantastic, but would be an expensive luxury, not a need. Would be a massive slap in the face to Texeira, Suso and Coutinho. The club should just focus on bringing in a couple of defenders to stop the ridiculous leakage in our defense. Skrtel and johnson need replacing.

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21 Jul 2014 12:22:54
Unless we're selling couthino that's the only way this deal will happen

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I don't think Isco will sign set all but IF we sold Borini & Suso there would be a place in the squad for him and getting on for 15-20m towards the cost.

Isco is way, way better than Suso or Teixeira.

Isco can play AM, RF & LF and if Borini & Suso were sold we wouldn't be over stocked as it would look like this.

AM Coutinho & Lallana
RF Isco & Sterling
CF Sturridge & Lambert
LF Markovich & Remy

8 players for 4 starting positions. 2 quality players for each position. Like I say though, it won't happen.

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21 Jul 2014 07:47:51
Does anyone else think that Jordan Ibe is more suited to a striking role than a wide forward role?
Obviously he has to work on the finishing side of his game but personally I think he could be a cracking CF.
He's big and strong, mobile and super quick.
If we get Remy and sell Borini then I would be more than happy to have Ibe and Peterson as 4th and 5th choice strikers personally.

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I think he could be in the future, but at the moment, as you said, his finishing isn't good enough.
His strengths right now are running at people, getting into the space in wide positions and putting balls in the box.
I think there would be too much pressure on him in a central role at the moment.

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If we sell Borini I'd like another Striker signed and then use Jack Dunn and Yesil as the back up strikers behind Sturridge, Lambert and (Remy).

Ibe would be my second choice left winger behind Lallana. Markovic, Sterling and Suso would make up the other wide forwards and 5 players to compete for 2 positions (as all can play either side) is a good amount of depth to have. I'd have liked Borini to stay and be part of the competition for the wide positions but it looks like he will go. I think Suso will leave as well still so perhaps Peterson could take his place as the 5th choice wide man. We'd be very inexperienced out wide with 4/5 being U21 but I don't see that as a problem because younger players are faster and fearless which is what you want in your wide men.

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The fact that he has the pace matched with his physicality would make him a great striker, just needs the experience and to be more clinical but as of right now he's a good winger and him getting game time this season is imperative for his development - I think his ceiling is higher than Sterlings personally

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EMS, u seem to have forgotten Texeira.
He will probably provide cover on the left for Lallana along with Ibe. Would like to see Peterson given a chance up front in the FA and league cups. The lad has earned it. Unfortunately, I see Suso leaving. He won't get regular games, and needs to leave for the sake of his career.

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I hadn't forgotten Teixeira. In my opinion he is wasted out wide and should compete/rotate with Coutinho in midfield. He cannot play up front and out wide it does not best utilise his composure a vision. He cannot cross the ball or cut inside like Suso so he should be played centrally in my opinion.

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Good point, I was thinking the exact same thing. However if we take a look at Henry at Arsenal and even before that, he started off on the wing and learnt his trade out wide. As he progressed he sharpened up his shooting and positionally was first class. that's the way I see Ibe progressing. I would not expect to see him up front until he has had at least a couple of seasons of first team footie playing out wide and learning his trade!

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22 Jul 2014 05:57:07
You see the problem here? Ibe will not be playing many games as a 5th or 6th choice player.

He needs a loan now.

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21 Jul 2014 04:39:03
People that keep saying we need to add a 'major' player or striker to replace suarez. Why? Suarez scored 30 goals in the bpl last season, so despite the fact that we've added goals with lambert and remy (20+ goals last season) if we strengthen the team as a whole and especially the defence then we could concede 30 goals less than last season. So it would work better in our favour, surely? Also did anything materialise with that yank who was supposedly having a trial?

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Well it's not really as simple as that. There obviously needs to be a better balance in the team but I really wish people would stop painting it so black and white. How about we forget Suarez altogether because this is getting really old.

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I don't think Yedlin ever actually arrived on trial, he played for the Sounders against Spurs the other day.

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21 Jul 2014 02:28:56
02 Apr 2014 09:58:39
Morning Ed's & Reds

Have Liverpool shown any interest in lioc remy?
I would sell borini and aspas and buy remy. He has the quality and has scored goals in the prem for the last 2 years and wouldn't cost much more than £12m.

Thanks

Ynwa

Two Dogs Fighten

{Ed001's Note - not that I know of. Not sure why on earth we would want him anyway.}

Looks like I was right Ed01. Do you still think he is not good enough with 14 goals in 26 prem gams? I think he will complement Sturridge perfectly.

Ynwa

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but it is ok scoring goals playing for a team set up for you but totally different when the team has a style that involves you being asked to do something different. Remy is not a good footballer, his touch is poor and now he will be asked to get involved in the build up, where he will be asked to use his touch, rather than just chasing a ball lumped over the top from the back, where he only needs to use pace. You can shove those stats where the sun doesn't shine, as they show nothing, as usual. I really am going to just ignore posts with stats in, as they do nothing but show a lack of understanding of context and football itself when used like that.}

I personally agree with you Ed. And that's without mentioning his attitude. However, I have a pact with redohio that if Remy signs, I shall support him for the good of the club and give him a second chance to show he is not a disgrace and can add more to his game! If he proves me wrong, I'll be happy. He will only get one chance though. I can't be doing with another trouble maker. I wouldn't want to be judged on my past though so I'll let him show me he's changed before I pass judgement.

Ability wise he is going to have to massively step up still though. It'll probably help training under Rodgers instead of Pardew mind! That guy epitomises route one football.

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{Ed001's Note - I don't think supporting him if he signs is an issue, so long as he behaves, I will always hope he succeeds and proves me wrong.}

I am with the Ed 100% on this one. Don't always agree but this analysis is spot on

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The fact that his style of play is totally different to ours only makes the interest more believable imo, we lacked diversity last season which is why Lambert has been bought, maybe Remy is plan C - I hope not for the reasons youve given, but I don't think its a totally stupid move

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How were you right when you asked a question?. you made no statement just asked an opinion on your question?

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21 Jul 2014 09:28:28
Mate you asked ed a question so you wasn't right? You then gave your opinion on what you would do. It doesn't mean you was right

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I did say we should sell borini and aspas and get Remy!

But anyway I am sure he will give us more options in attack. Especially away from home.

Ynwa

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Loic Remy will prove his doubters wrong. 'No touch', rubbish!Have you watched him play?

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{Ed001's Note - of course I have watched him play, I have been watching him for years, since Commolli suggested him as a striker we should buy. I think you need to watch him more personally.}

21 Jul 2014 12:22:44
You didn't say 'we will' you said 'I would'

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Ed is right to an extent. Remy is not one who participates in the build up and that might cast some doubt on this move. However, maybe BR sees something(s) in him that can be a great asset to us and other things he can work on that can make him better. Only time wil tell.

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Miroslav Klose doesn't get involved other than to pop it in the net. Whenever I've seen Remy I've always considered him a danger. He's a bit of a maverick but isn't that what we need a bit of post Suarez?

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Red twist needs to get a life!
And an opinion. Imo lol.

Ynwa

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20 Jul 2014 23:47:09
hi eds

is there any main reason why swanseas left back would go to spurs instead of us, any ideas or knowledge, we need a decent left back and if he goes to spurs it shows we can't attract even decent players never mind top players, maybe that's why we are getting the players we have signed, not one world class player has come in, while we have let one go, it makes no sense if some say we can still attract top players, we had flanno a right back playing at left back most of last season, which lost us a lot of crosses a left footed left back would have done, flanno done great even better if you think he was playing out of position, and all the while enrique is picking up his wages for sitting down and not playing, i'm not moaning just concerned that now I've realised player would rather go to spurs instead of us, all the good work BR done last season could go down the pan if we don't do well this season, the defence was our weakest link and in a chain you are only as strong as the weakest link, we all know we have struggled in our left back position for years, anyway I maight be wrong I doubt it but I don't think we will get a top left back this transfer window, because if spurs or any other club comes in for them they will go else where, maybe you know more than I do over the transfer of davies to spurs

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{Ed001's Note - because we weren't in the running. He is not very good and Rodgers, having worked with both in the past, prefers Bertrand. I would agree with his opinion on them personally.}

21 Jul 2014 10:28:57
Ed1 do you know if we have made a bid for Bertrand?

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{Ed001's Note - we held talks with Chelsea but no bid has gone in that I am aware of.}

I`m not sold on Bertrand BUT he`s better than Davies. If Bertrand does sign, I`ll support him and trust BR.

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20 Jul 2014 21:21:40
I don't usually pester an ed for opinions but I'd like to ask ED 001 on his view about Sebastien Coates.
The lad is clearly "on the transfer list" but I have always thought he was a decent CB who was never really given a chance to prove himself. The FA Cup defeat at Oldham was a pivotal fail for the lad and he has had one or two other less than stellar performances. He's also had an injury which sidelined him for ages.
But, on the plus-side, he's clearly well-regarded and was the subject of bids from Barcelona etc. before we bought him.
Personally, I'd be happy with Coates, Kelly and Illori scrapping to be involved at CB in lesser games with a view to the big breakthrough.
if he's to be sold then I wish the lad all the best.

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{Ed001's Note - he is just too slow for the system we are using. You can't press high with a slow centre half or you just get countered by a quick lump over the top too easily. Or the press is just not possible as everyone needs to drop off the play to protect the space in behind.}

Like Ed1 has said, he is no longer suited to our style which is a shame really because he is quite a competent Centre Half and would only get better with the experience, just not with us

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Yeah unfortunately he turns too slow and reacts too slow.
I still vividly remember going to QPR a couple of years ago. That was some goal he smashed in at Loftus Rd.
He has the technical ability and may succeed somewhere else, not in England though IMO

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21 Jul 2014 01:11:01
Hi guys
In everyone's honest opinion if we only signed Lovren, Moreno and remy from now on, do you think we'll be stronger or weaker than last season?

We've lost a match winner in Suarez but what we can do now is play a 433 which will cut out some of the goals we conceded trying to accommodate both Suarez and Sturridge in the same team.

I'm hoping we get a more top quality player who will add that bit more quality in the final third, like a di Maria or reus type.

Thoughts?

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If we get all the above we will have one hell of a squad, we'll be much stronger, we'll miss Suarez, but not as much as most rival fans believe.

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21 Jul 2014 03:45:51
Stronger. I have no doubts about this team. I'm really excited for this season, and those additions would be the icing on the cake. I don't want remy though, I prefer Borini.

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Haven'st seen enough of remy and moreno. But would love to see Lovren playing for us next season

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Strong, excitedly strong. The days when we call up the likes of moses and aspas to come in and change the game is gone. Now we can have proven and quality talents like lambert, Remy, Markovic to not only come in as a substitute but also part of a decent second string team in cup competitons.

Saurez will be undoubtely missed, but I am sure Rodgers will improve our defence, and players from last season, coutinho, henderson, sterling and sturridge will step up.
Do not get washed up what our rivals fans saying, they are getting abit nervous as we are getting stronger.

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It's a much stronger defensive first 11 with a slightly weaker attack (albeit an even pacier one than before).

Squad-wise, significantly stronger match day 18 (could well have something like Coutinho, Lambert, Remy, Allen, Can, and Agger all on the bench).

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In my opinion, the strongest squad we've had since 2007.

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21 Jul 2014 08:35:46
I think it'll all be dependent upon whether the new signings can successfully integrate into the team and Rogers' playing philosophy fast enough. On paper it looks good, but so did Spurs last year. So, I'll reserve judgement until we have played a few more friendlies yet and our fitness is more indicative of how competitive we might be this coming year.

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Sanchez is a poor mans Suarez. that's why I don't mind we missed out on him. Watched him being taken of countless times last season for having no impact what's so ever, he is inconsistant. I believe the players coming in now are young hungry and a point to prove. Remy is electric and a big game player that will add depth in the squad. Lovren will compliment Sakho. Markovic is Robert Pires on steroids. Moreno is as good as Shaw. Origi and Bakkali? are 2 young exciting exciting players added to Jorden Ibe, who is looking like a young John Barnes every time I see him. Next 4-5 season's looking good.

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{Ed001's Note - sorry but Suarez and Sanchez are nothing like the same kind of player at all.}

I would say that on paper this would probably be our strongest squad post the millennium. I loved the 2007 team but there was a very poor bench with that team and I think this year we will have a stronger bench then we have had in a long time.

As I've said that's only on paper though!

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See I loved our 2007 team attack wise. Gerrard, Bellamy and Kuyt were excellent and we had backs like Crouch, Pennant, Benayoun and Babel (who was a good impact sub).

I'd argue that was the only time in recent history when we did have a good bench!

Next season we're looking even better though!

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21 Jul 2014 01:04:41
Banter please Eds

TRANSFER FEE EXPENDITURE £95m
Lallana £25m
Can £10m
Lambert £4m
Markovic £20m
Lovren £18m
Remy £8m
Origi £10m

TRANSFER FEE INCOME £95m
Suarez £75m
Borini £14m
Assaidi £6m

That genuinely looks a much stronger squad, without us spending a penny. Consider possible sales of Lucas, Agger/Skrtel and we could have made money this window.
I hadn't believed we'd make a 'marquee' signing since Sanchez rejected us, until I'd worked this out.
We were reportedly going to have >£60million + whatever we sold to spend this summer.
We'll still most likely buy a left-back, but I'd be surprised if we paid anything over £20million for them, and that's £40million minimum left over.
OK, it doesn't have to be spent, but I'd be surprised if Rodgers wouldn't want to.
Last week I was in a very gloomy state of mind LFC wise, but suddenly it's hit me: we are being led by a genius.
He has built up a very young squad with lots of talent meaning year after year the team will improve, bringing in revenue to buy more, bright young players and if we were to ever miss out on the top four, it should be no problem as the team will naturally improve for the next season, without us having to pay huge fees to restore the club like United are.
I think this relates to the moneyball idea, although hopefully it should bring success as well as huge money.

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I can see the Eds face-palming as they raed your post Toddy. Whichever games company started the FIFA series has a lot to answer for.

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So all these players coming in won't be increasing the wage Bill so we won't have spent any money and maybe made a profit?

And the money we may have loaned to buy some of these players will be interest free?

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As well as the wages hoola mentioned. We don't get full transfer sums up front nor do we pay them so this is all fantastic apart from the fact it's pointless.

Who said we didn't only get 20 mill up front for Suarez? Not saying we did or didn't but I certainly have no idea.

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It's all the costs that aren't reported such as agents fees etc. that will be racking up though.

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21 Jul 2014 00:37:28
its easy for fans to knock ian ayre particularly after they way the january transfare window panned out, but he has earn some respect for the all deals he has done in this window, it looks like we have at least 7 new players to add some quality to last years sqaud the only major loss is lius saurez but after the latest biteing incident, don't think it was possble to keep him to is contract

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I just find it a bit unbelievable that he became a figure of hate for fans saying as none of us knew what he had to do etc. Then when deals weren't done, for different reasons we all just blamed him.

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21 Jul 2014 01:52:24
Couldn't agree more well done to everyone at the club really backing r manager.

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Couldn't argue with that. Ian ayre and the transfer committe in this summer window did it effectively and quickly, no more mucking about like the last shambolic transfer window. They deserve out plaudits.

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I think Ian Ayre and co have learned one important lesson- you can't dick around for 10 weeks making slightly increased but still derisory offers on your main target (Salah), and thus leave yourself less than a week to close a deal with your fallback target.

I still wonder what we might have achieved if we'd had Salah in the squad towards the end of last season, and I still lay the blame for that failure at Ayre's door.

Although I do think Ayre and the committee are covering a huge amount of incredibly complex work in a short time to complete these signings, I just wish they'd had that same urgency and decisiveness when they were chasing Salah last December.

But then Ayre and the committee are all learning on the job in some aspects, as you have to do.
Fingers crossed the big lessons are over with.

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Salah wouldn't have started ahead of SSS anyway so why moan? He wad a target before Sterlings meteoric improvement so no wonder we stuck to our valuation. If we'd got Kono we wouldn't have Markovich who has a far higher ceiling in terms of quality. We finished 2nd because Stevie slipped on the ball and a game that had draw written all over it was lost and our confidence was dented.

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