Liverpool Banter Archive September 20 2010

 

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20 Sep 2010 23:26:53

Come on people we need to wake up to things, it was a mistake to appoint Hodgson, he has us going backwards hes tactics are all over the shop, hes premiership record isn't great , i don't understand why they thought he was best man for the job.
We are LFC not some mickey mouse club.
YNWA

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 23:13:19
To my dear frend sooty,
i have to admit i don't know any insider.i only write what i read.just like u. n yes, 300m is a big money.but its not like he just give it away to hick as a present.he believe hick will pay with some interest.its maybe have some risk, but as they said, if u don't shoot, u won't score.

Mr.E

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 23:03:36

Guys we need to focus on the next 10-20-30 years. Forget about this season. Good players come and go. Great players stay because Liverpool FC is more than just a paycheque! It is pride and honour to wear the red shirt. Chelski, s* tty et al will come and go just like Leeds and Forest did. Only one team will remain because they have the best SUPPORT in the world and that is exactly what we should all be doing. Have belief and faith. The tide will turn and the water will taste the sweetest any true Liverpool fan has ever tasted! ! !

Dickie Di Doh

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:58:59
Looks like dicks and s* tet have final found there saviour it will keep them warm for about 5 mins. there problem is, the piece of coal they dug up definitely doesn't have a diamond in it, thank f* k. keep your grubby hands of our beloved club.

go go mo sheik that ass.

ul nwa

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:56:09

Does anyone agree that after years of great service
carra's days of top flight football are nearly over.click to agree.

Never thought I'd ever think it as my Dad thinks he's his love child but I have to agree. Love the guy but to slow and can't challenge in the air any more. LOVE YOU J.C.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:54:05

Looking at ssn, they have said noyhing about hicks getting refinanced.their website still claims that he has been rejected.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:53:54

16 in the league ino but weel be back up
there don't you fans worry we will be back up there we are the mighty Liverpool fc and we will never die let the critics dout us but the silly b* tards will get wat they are looking for YNWA! Luv all u fans peace out

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:52:36

Now SSN have dropped the Alan Myers report Hicks keeps on proving me right he's making fools of them.

Someone do me a favour IF you see Alan Myers anywere near Anfield at the weekend then walk up to him and hit him the hardest slap you've ever hit anyone and tell him to wake up and smell the truth.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:49:38

Blackstone chairman is hick's bestfriend.so i think he will help hick with all the refinancing stuff.

Mr.E

That's right, he's Hick's mate so he'll just hand over 300+ mill. C'mon mate sort your head out, it's not gonna happen. Hick's is F*cked and he knows it. Buisness is buisness.

Sooty

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:47:50

Does anyone agree that after years of great service
carra's days of top flight football are nearly over.click to agree
Nowt like being fickle! Lets face it, we've just been beaten (heavily) by United. Different class, 2 goals flattered us to be honest, Roy has got a mammoth job on his hands. Lets get behind them and not single out players who have given their best over a long period. Surely loyalty from Carra, Stevie G and all counts for something in this day and age! YNWA JF96

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:46:43

Don't you love how the media puts their own slant on just about everything to do with our club. If you look at some of the headlines they say things like "Hodgson rules Reds out of Title Race." When, in his postmatch interview, he really just said it is difficult to say anything about the title race after playing five games and that it can be considered a setback. That does not mean he or anyone else has completely ruled us out as the media would so like us to believe.

That being said I feel it will be a tough ask with us now being 1o points behind easy street Chevski. Truth be told, I am not overly concerned with the title race at this point.

I think the future is of more importance. And if you look to the future of our squad you can see quite a few players who will be the real deal in a few years time. While I never want to see Liverpool have a bad year, this can easily be called a transitional period.

Face the facts Roy is not a permanent manager. He was brought in to steady the ship and improve the short term future of the club as best he could with limited finances. But the real goal should be to get Liverpool back to greatness the right way by developing players from an early age or doing good business in the market.

I know we bought a few older player who are less than spectacular (Poulson, Konch) but you cannot say these players were not needed and will not serve a purpose for a short time. Now that he has got the players it gives time to the young gems we have to develop for a year or two and then slowly integrate into the squad. And if you look at the transfer targets we are now being linked with they are promising young players (Marin, Shaquiri, Jiminez).

So to sum up my lengthy message, get behind the team this year but remember that the future is bright.
YNWA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:32:30

Sky Sports news reporting that the Hicks re-finance has falling through. . . .nobody will touch him, bad risk

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:30:40

My opinion is that the fans are being somewhat naive if they truly think semi-direct action will do anything other than make themselves a laughing stock. A 14 year old and a 12 year old set fire to cardboard boxes behind an RBS branch (actually the store next door) because of some video where a guy said they would only get a slap on the wrists if they took action but did not harm staff. What sort of nonsense is this. I would have expected the fans to have supported Hicks and Gillett in anything they do that might expedite the sale of the club - but sadly no.

I neither hate Liverpool in any way or form nor support anything due to my being an American by birth.

Sharkey.

No matter what age they are Sharkey and what they do to protect our Great Club then so be it.

Go to Anfield this weekend and see for yourself if LFC fans are taking semi-direct action.

Like someone quite famous said and it couldn't be more suitable for the situation we are in now

"We have to destroy this village, in order to save it"

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:28:48

BMY:
"When RBS call in the debts IF H&G can't repay them then RBS sell the loans/ debt onto a 3rd party therefore relinquishing control to the 3rd party."

It does n't work the way you think mate, honestly it does n't, its not much different if you or I failed to pay our mortgage , the lender possess our house and then they are obliged to auction it to the highest bidder (else I will complain and sue them that they have n't tried to sell for the highest possible price - ) . if nobody comes forward then they'll start with selling my furniture , then the bricks etc etc . .
we exchanged few posts and I hope you would remember I was n't one for doom and gloom, but since RBS moved the loans to the toxic division , it opened my eyes to what really is going on here.
Roy

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:25:56
Hicks 1-0 liverpool

www.goal.com/ en

mr.e

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:20:47

Looks like that hicks got his own way again.ssnew have just said he got the money to pay off the loan and bring in new players. bloody yonk just leave our club alone


Think you've been watching old episodes of Fantasy Island, it's not gonna happen. . .

. . . .the plane, the plane.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:17:20
Blair Mayne YNWA popped in to tell us at 20 Sep 2010 17:30:17:

"Why would Hicks fail - because the Liverpool fans dislike him? I think not. How would RBS pass - they went bust and were resuced by the Treasury?

Sharkey.

You are underestimating the power of LFC fans Sharkey!

IF Hicks gets refinancing then there's no doubt that our fans/ family will bring him to his knee's.

You are a Chelski fan Sharkey so you wouldn't know what it feels like to be part of a Great, Historious and Family orientated club.

I'm ranting at you mate because some of you're recent posts that i've been fortunate to read it looks as if you're siding with that b*stard Hicks. Not because you you're a Chelski fan and hate everthing Liverpool but because you're American."

My opinion is that the fans are being somewhat naive if they truly think semi-direct action will do anything other than make themselves a laughing stock. A 14 year old and a 12 year old set fire to cardboard boxes behind an RBS branch (actually the store next door) because of some video where a guy said they would only get a slap on the wrists if they took action but did not harm staff. What sort of nonsense is this. I would have expected the fans to have supported Hicks and Gillett in anything they do that might expedite the sale of the club - but sadly no.

I neither hate Liverpool in any way or form nor support anything due to my being an American by birth.

Sharkey.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:16:20
The first move by lfc fans seemed to have cause Hicks a bit of trouble.

But we need to know who else he s going to get money.

does anyone know what he is trying now. We need keep up the presure on him. Make sure he leaves the club ASAP.

{Editor's Note: I assume that you are an Everton or Manchester United supporter.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:15:43

Sky Sports News now eporting that Hicks proposed takeover has fallen through
Perhaps there is light at the end of the storm!

Keep the faith redmen and more importantly keep up the hard work

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:13:33

{Editor's Note: You need to drop the whole fan funded buy out thoughts.}


Probably, but i love the club too much to potentially see it die without a fight.
Now SSN are saying Blackstone have pulled out.
What the hell is goin on?
This is a totally different story to just 15 min ago.
This is ridiculous
Kev

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:10:47

Blackstone Group reject Hicks refinacing plan

Liverpool's American owners may need new backers after Blackstone Group LP's GSO Capital Partners LP rejected a refinancing plan for the 18-time English soccer champion, two people familiar with the situation said.

Texan Tom Hicks, who owns Liverpool with Colorado-based George Gillett, approached the unit to be the lead capital provider of a group that would pay off the duo's debt with Royal Bank of Scotland Plc before it matures next month.

GSO has decided not to buy some of the debt, which has grown to about 282 million pounds ($439 million) because of penalties linked to Hicks and Gillett's failure to sell, the people said. They spoke anonymously because the negotiations are private.

Bennett J. Goodman, a senior managing director at GSO, didn't immediately respond to calls and e-mails seeking comment.

Hicks was in London last week to meet with club board members to discuss the future of the U.K.'s most successful soccer team. Hicks and Gillett put the club up for sale in April after RBS agreed to extend the debt repayment schedule.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:08:50
RE: RBS call in their debts, repossess the club , put us in administration, auction it, sell some of the players at any offered price if no buyer matches the debt, PL deduct 30 points, and we play championship football next season

Im willing to pay for the crimes that Hicks committed. If we need to start all over again then maybe that's the price we need to pay.

Also if we set ourselves up as being fan owned, it would be better for us in the long run. We can raise our own money we have the fan base.

Newcastle went down, portsmouth went down.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:07:50

Looks like that hicks got his own way again.ssnew have just said he got the money to pay off the loan and bring in new players. bloody yonk just leave our club alone

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:07:20

Has anyone seen what i've just seen on SSN?

They are reporting now that Hicks has got the refinancing from Blackstone and has money available for players and Stadium.

The reporter that's breaking the news is that low life c*stard Alan Myers so i don't know how reliable the report is.

Blair Mayne YNWA

On the Sky Sports website it says they have l*cked him off. It won't happen, The man is A BANKRUPT waiting to happen.

Sooty

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:04:56

Yet again i'm seeing people havin a go at Roy, for god sake he's been in charge for 5 league games, I have to admit the previous 4 weren't good to watch but 2nd half on Sunday I just started to see a few things slotting together. Joe Cole is starting to look confident on the ball, Stevie G never changes( A legend), Koncheski looks solid, Mereles was everywhere, remember, he's only played a game and a half and has only had 4 training sessions, Nando got two decent passes, 1st Penalty, 2nd Free kick, GOAL.
I'd only make two changes,
1. Johnson moves to Midfield, Kelly to right back - the guy is solid.
2. Agger for Skirtel - Agger more solid in defence.

what do you think Ed, did you see any of this or have I got my Liverpool tinted glasses on.

Sooty {ed's note - I think the same, except I would sell Johnson altogether, he is just not good enough.}

Bit harsh Ed but I fear you may be right, seems more content in making his hair look good now.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 22:03:37

Whats goin on SSNews reportin Hicks has got funds for takeover and transfers is this true.gettin very worried. .
Magsman YNWA

Hes not lying guys.
I just saw this myself.
Whats say we all try to buy the club ourselves?
Why not?
Believable = yes. Unbelievable = no

{Editor's Note: You need to drop the whole fan funded buy out thoughts.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:59:55

Right SSN are saying Hicks has gotten some backing which will pay off the debt and provide money for transfers as well as paying for the new stadium!
I'm not B.Sing!
It was just on SSN 5 mins ago!
Well Ed now we have a fight on our hands mate.
I am deeply worried now after hearing this.
Wanna start up the fan buy out thing now that we talked about earlier?
Kev

{Editor's Note: The strange bit is the stadium funding. We'll see.}

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:57:25

Sooty -

How do you suppose that winning this weekend will take us up to 5th place? I'm all for optimism, but don't be such a tool.



I never said will, I said could. ."TOOL"

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:57:04

Has anyone seen what i've just seen on SSN?

They are reporting now that Hicks has got the refinancing from Blackstone and has money available for players and Stadium.

The reporter that's breaking the news is that low life c*stard Alan Myers so i don't know how reliable the report is.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:56:56

On SSN Blackstone group will not back Hicks with funds to pay off the debt thank * *

Dave the red

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:55:34

First time post and just wanted to say could everybody lay off macca please , even if what he says isn't true it gives a little hope if only for a while that we might be at last be getting rid of the yanks YNWA.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:51:38

Zabeel Investments is owned by Sheikh Mohammed's son Sheikh Hamdan bin Mohammed, Crown Prince of Dubai and President of Dubai Sports Council. If the Sheikh is interested, the bid will come from one of these investment groups, so if this is actually cropping up in Dubai, then its very interesting.


If you think that Sheikh Mohammed is an LFC fan (which he is) then his son Sheikh Hamdan is a fanatical LFC fan.

Dosn't mean to say they are interested of course but just goe's to show the variety of us the Greatest Fans on the Planet.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:43:17

Sooty -

How do you suppose that winning this weekend will take us up to 5th place? I'm all for optimism, but don't be such a tool.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:42:32

So what do the fans prefer:
Hicks or Gillete refinance and try to keep us going for few months till hopefully a buyer comes out from somewhere or
RBS call in their debts, repossess the club , put us in administration, auction it, sell some of the players at any offered price if no buyer matches the debt, PL deduct 30 points, and we play championship football next season .
Its one or the other folks, as soon as RBS - take over - as many of here call it. its administration , they can't take over and sell, they'll need to auction it and pass the money to all the creditors first- which include G and H
Roy

Or a third option Roy!

When RBS call in the debts IF H&G can't repay them then RBS sell the loans/ debt onto a 3rd party therefore relinquishing control to the 3rd party.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:40:55

A lot of people have been slagging off Ngog recently, to me, he's one of the most improved players at the club this season, watch him next time, his first touch and general hold up play is exceptional now, whereas last season, the ball was hitting off his apse and everything. He can't take a player on, neither can he shoot that accurately still, but he's definitley come on leaps and bounds from last season. If you get the basics right, the rest will follow.
On Nando, anyone who has watched him the last 2 seasons would have seen that he takes a good 3-4 games to get back into his stride, he'll be back at his best soon
On our season, the only game I'm disapointed with so far is the Brum game, I thought we should win that, however we were lucky to draw. I didn't think we'd win against Arsenal, I didn't think we'd get anything against United or City. . .heart on heart can anyone really say they fancied winning against either of the Mancs? ?
Just think with a few back to back wins in the next few games, we will start to look the part again.
On formation, Konchesky looks dodgy, Johnson looks like he'll let anything go into the box and Carra looks pretty poor, however Joe Cole showed some decent signs and Stevie is getting back to good performances again.
On a much brighter note, anyone who has been watching the reserves recently will have seen the emergence of Wisdom, (must be the closest thing to Rio since he came on the scene) Suso, Ngoo and Amoo. Also Wilson looks like a real find.

Pablo

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:35:42

@20 Sep 2010 18:26:54 - "LIVERPOOL FANS, PREPARE TO BE VERY SURPRISED AS TO WHO THE PREFFERED BIDDER IS."

It's Ken Aguerro. He's hung his boots up and got an enterprise grant from the council.

RED LENIN

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:33:26
RE:Yossi and Reira were sold just to pay wages

I heard the wage bill had to drop by 50percent to balance the books.

Expect anyone on good money that isn't playing firs time to walk, like they have been doing.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:33:23
This *s *h****** s***king
re-get of d.moores back?
david moores was the biggest mistake in the history of lfc ownership in his 20 odd years tenure of the club lfc stood still in terms of investment and the move to a massive stadium could have been done in the late 90s had he not taken up the offer from the council to mave to the kings dock we stood stillwhile united kicked on and swept all before them ok we won a few cups in the last few years but whats that h*ck all to what we should have achieved if only we had someone with balls and vision to make it happen b*cking david moores is a bad joke a inept business man who sold us down the river for his 30 pieces of silver him and parry should hang their heads in shame at what they did to a once proud and loved club renowned the world over for its fans and playing great football now look at us a f*ipping laughing stock on the verge of meltdown thnax david moores thanx for t*ck all
from an irate **e****** who wishes david moores had never stepped into a*field

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:33:14

DING DONG THE WICKED HICKS IS DEAD
LIVERPOOL TAKEN OVER OCTOBER 4 TH
HODGSON GIVEN ONE SEASON MUST FINISH IN TOP 4
77 MILLION PLUS SALE IN JANUARY LOTS OF COMING AND GOINGS

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:25:21

Zabeel Investments is owned by Sheikh Mohammed's son Sheikh Hamdan bin Mohammed, Crown Prince of Dubai and President of Dubai Sports Council. If the Sheikh is interested, the bid will come from one of these investment groups, so if this is actually cropping up in Dubai, then its very interesting.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:24:18

Macca,
If you have a source within the club, will you pass on a message for me please?
Its just to tell the source that i trust them to make the right decision when the time comes & to tell the players that the real Liverpool fans are very proud of them & are right behind them.
And finally, please tell them that they need to but a forward to help Torres.
Its so apparent he needs help.
Hope you're for real as i've defended you on here a few times now.
Cheers Macca,
Irish Kev.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:17:57

Leave carra alone , with johnson on his right to look after & skirtel to his left give him a break, what do you think ed?

{Editor's Note: Time has not come for him yet - but it is not too far away. Perhaps stop playing him in all games.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:17:20
RE:If we build a time machine we can go back in time & stop all this from ever happening.

Mr time machine, the fans where jumping for joy when Hicks turned up.

anyone walking through lfc won't have the clubs intrest at heart, just the money. Lets face it John Houlding created liverpool because he had a empty stadum once the everton fans left.

They where replaced by new set of mug (fans) called lfc.

Its time for fans to control the club and leave ownership behind.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:12:17
I think liverpool fan bombarded Blackstone with million angry messages.

Im guessin those guys didn't get any work done this morning.

lol

Or need new emails

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:11:40

20 Sep 2010 20:43:22

Zabeel investments are serious contenders to take over at Liverpool, news from a friend in Dubai, all the talk over there at the moment.

Before anyone Google's Zabeel Investments it is owned by the one and only Sheikh Mohammed Al Maktoum.

IF these rumours about Sheikh Mohammed are true they could also make sense. I said last week "I can't believe this guy is not bidding or at least monitoring the situation"

He could get LFC this time far cheaper than before.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 21:07:43

Zabeel who in 2008 pulled out of buying charlton

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 20:50:10

If we build a time machine we can go back in time & stop all this from ever happening.
We just need to go at 88 mph & it'll all be ok.
Then i'd go back 3 years earliertoo & give Jose the job not Rafa, sorted. Woohoo!
Now, wheres my hammer & nails?? ?

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 20:43:43

I remember the days when we only had to worry about results to make your week, can't wait for them days to return boys. .
-Pete-

 

 

20 Sep 2010 20:43:04

Not the most interesting rumour, but I was told by an old friend from uni that Yossi and Reira were sold just to pay wages etc, however this is probably already common knowledge.

But for anyone who was wondering what was up with the lack of purchases; well now you know.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 20:29:39

Hodgson is not the calibre we need. Torres seems disenchanted.

If Meirales had tucked away his header on 71 mins like he should you would have been saying it was an unbelievable comeback like in '05 so get off your high horse. There are only 5 games gone, 5, not 33 with only 5 left. Some people just can't be pleased!

 

 

20 Sep 2010 20:28:34
Well said sooty. come sunday liverpool mybe in no5. or 20.thats depend on a few thing:
-how RH approach to next game;try to get 3point or defend for a point(like he do agains manure)
-who'll be in 1st 11
-how much sulking torres can be
-most of all, how well ur team can cope with all these low morale n yank ownership prob(please don't say that player r not affected by any ownership prob coz they do)

Mr.E

 

 

20 Sep 2010 20:19:40

I believe we have fallen as low as we can fall.

If that's your belief then the only way is up!
If the players felt like you do we'd be in real trouble!
Come on, chin up!

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 20:10:46

Associated Press, now reporting that Hicks refinancing with Blackstone has failed

rasone

 

 

20 Sep 2010 20:10:21
Well said sooty.come saturday ur team mybe will be in no5. or 20. that's depend on how RH pick ur player, what tactic he use, how much sulking torres can be, n most of all, how well ur player cope with all these low morale n fckn ownership trouble.

Mr.E

 

 

20 Sep 2010 20:03:37

"Blackstone have a number of interests in the UK and we are calling for all LFC supporters to boycott the following products. . Jaffa Cakes

F* K OFF if you think I'm boycotting Jaffa Cakes for anything anyone! Jaffa Cakes are not a matter of biscuits or cakes, they're bigger than that!

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:56:57

For F*ck sake, get real will you. I had a rope over a girder and was standing on a chair when I read this. My mate had to talk me down. Why are u looking at the doom and gloom side of it. Come Saturday we could actually be in 5th place. Maybe Evertons luck will change, SO MIGHT OUR'S.

Sooty


Well said Sooty.
Finally some common sense!
FFS!

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:56:50

I believe we have fallen as low as we can fall. The abject misery of watching the first half against MU says it all.
Hodgson is not the calibre we need. Torres seems disenchanted.
That vile t* t Hicks seems intent on squeezing as much as he can out of the club.
I believe a couple of realistic offers have been tendered. RBS want to accept them. The board want to accept one of them.
Gillett's back is against the wall. Hicks is playing tough.
I trust at the 11th hour they will be forced to accept one of the offers - even though they are well below their expectations.
We need serious investment in the squad - too many average players. Plus the stadium to generate revenue.
Should Hicks find someone stupid enough to provide the finance we must all boycott everything Liverpool fc until he's gone.
However I trust that won't be necessary.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:55:33
Gillett is scr* *d his buisness deals in america are droping fast and he is allmost bankrupt this is why hicks is trying to take control of club as gillett is desparate to sell and hicks sees this as oppitunity to pay off debt and sell club on later keeping profit for himself.
i will be amazed if anybody will lend him money to do this and think he will sell at last minute to avoid bank takeing over and he is left with nothing.
there must be a number of bidders waiting for the deadline to try and get a cheap deal and purslow, broughton and ayre will have there prefered bidder in place.
i expect a new owner in place buy october 6th and hodgson will be gone by january with a new guy in place and a transfer fund to finally get some decent players in who ever comes in please make a strike partner and two flying wingers the first buys we need to go to 4.4.2 and get torres the ball bet we sign a top spaniard to keep torres at club mata a real possability.

what you think ed {ed's note - I am not expecting any new owner to make any big changes to be honest. I hope they just get the stadium started and remove the debt, let us stand on our own two feet without the shackles placed on us by H&G.}

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:49:56

Yet again i'm seeing people havin a go at Roy, for god sake he's been in charge for 5 league games, I have to admit the previous 4 weren't good to watch but 2nd half on Sunday I just started to see a few things slotting together. Joe Cole is starting to look confident on the ball, Stevie G never changes( A legend), Koncheski looks solid, Mereles was everywhere, remember, he's only played a game and a half and has only had 4 training sessions, Nando got two decent passes, 1st Penalty, 2nd Free kick, GOAL.
I'd only make two changes,
1. Johnson moves to Midfield, Kelly to right back - the guy is solid.
2. Agger for Skirtel - Agger more solid in defence.

what do you think Ed, did you see any of this or have I got my Liverpool tinted glasses on.

Sooty {ed's note - I think the same, except I would sell Johnson altogether, he is just not good enough.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:49:02

ED!

Get off D Moores back! He was a custodian not a ruthless owner we would not be the club we are today without the vision and hardwork of D Moores!

Is a statue out of the question to mark his contribution or even call the new stadium CARLSBERG PRESENTS THE DAVID MOORES STADIUM ANFIELD. A fitting tribute?

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:31:57

Bottom of the Premiership

So i was looking at the table and it very possible that liverpool could be bottom of premiership come Saturday, 23 October 2010.

If we lose to sunderland and Everton, both of which i think are possible. Sunderland manager Steve Bruce has a very well organised team. They did well against arsenal.

Just have a Feeling that Everton will turn us over this time round. Evertons luck will change, Baines is in very good form.



For F*ck sake, get real will you. I had a rope over a girder and was standing on a chair when I read this. My mate had to talk me down. Why are u looking at the doom and gloom side of it. Come Saturday we could actually be in 5th place. Maybe Evertons luck will change, SO MIGHT OUR'S.

Sooty

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:30:37

Not a rumor but a question. . .who listens to Talk Sport .
it was once run by Kelvin MacKenzie and we all know what paper he was the editor of. .I thing if this bast*rd employs you somewhere in the contract will be . You must have a dislike of all things Liverpool FC and all things about Liverpool the city. .and no i'm not paranoid

Deano95

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:25:28

Should liverpool drop out of europe, league cup and fa cup ?

Would that save our season if our big players only played prem football this season.

The rest was left up to reserves

I would never say drop out but play the likes of Pacheco, Wilson & Shelvey etc as we should concentrate on keeping our 1st team fit, available & uninjured for Prem matches. Could play the likes of Maxi, Babel, Soto, Jones too in the cup games to balance the lack of experience & keep them reasonably sharp too but NOT pull out altogether no!

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:22:10

So what do the fans prefer:
Hicks or Gillete refinance and try to keep us going for few months till hopefully a buyer comes out from somewhere or
RBS call in their debts, repossess the club , put us in administration, auction it, sell some of the players at any offered price if no buyer matches the debt, PL deduct 30 points, and we play championship football next season .
Its one or the other folks, as soon as RBS - take over - as many of here call it. its administration , they can't take over and sell, they'll need to auction it and pass the money to all the creditors first- which include G and H
Roy

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:20:48

How can the fans proactively create pressure on Hicks and Gillete to leave.

Enough is enough, we can't keep carrying on like this.

-Just a Question- If Hicks gains control, then goes out in transfer market and gets a couple of players,

Will u guys Love him ?


No mate - simply because his heart is NOT in it.
He is all about profits profits profits and cares not a jot about "Soccer" fans

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:17:25

Has anyone Created a forum to coordinate a fight back against Hicks.

Boycott Anfield and save the club


How do you propose to fight back mate?
Boycotting etc could only damage the club and damage many fans positions within the club (season tickets and so on)
Something constructive is required not destructive i would say.
Please make suggestions.
Cheers,
Irish Kev.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:16:39

20 Sep 2010 19:05:27

Believable or Unbelievable - Talksport radio is always sensationalist and apocalyptic about Liverpool without actually knowing any facts.

They all slag Liverpool off 24/ 7, even Collymore who always says he loves the club shortly before slagging us off, only people I have time for on the station is Paul Hawkesby and Andy Jacobs who always see both sides of it. Should be renamed, Slag off LFC FM.

Sooty

I enjoy the station mostly but when Liverpool are discussed the argument is totally unbalanced. They don't know anything about what is happening behind th scenes at Liverpool. They hardly ever use Graham Beecroft now. He allegedly does have contacts within the club. Agreed, Hawksbee and Jacobs are excellent. Jacobs brilliant when Chelsea lose.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:16:18

Hey people, Am I right in thinking that Hicks not only has to re-finance the debt to RBS, but if he wants sole control then he also has to raise the money to buy out Gillet, according to post the club is worth 600mill in there eyes. This means that he has to raise that and the RBS money, about 550mill. Does this make sense Ed of am I off the mark.

Sooty {ed's note - isn't the debt to RBS a joint one with Gillett? So refinancing would take over both halves, I think.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:16:12
RE:I am 100% certain H and G will leave so lets just wait and see who buys us.

iv had enough of one a* hole replacing another a* hole.

Who to say the next person walking into the club is any better than Hicks.

Football big money backers, its time for the game to change and clubs to become self-owned by fan base.

I think we will be paying for Hicks Greed for the next 10years

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:16:00

The next 5 games seems to be easy other than everton away which mite be tricky.if we are not close to the top 4 by then we can pretty much say good bye to cl again.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:11:14
Should liverpool drop out of europe, league cup and fa cup ?

Would that save our season if our big players only played prem football this season.

The rest was left up to reserves

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:11:11

20 Sep 2010 19:05:48

I fancy us for the FA Cup this season. So far this season seems to be a mirror image of the 1991/ 92 season. How about another 2-0 win in May? Believable or Unbelievable?

Unbelievable - simply because there is a gulf in class now so big between us and the top team(s) which wasn't so big back then.
We need to concentrate 100% on climbing the league as high as possible, let the kids play all cup comps as nothing else matters but getting back up that table imo.
Would swap 4th place for winning both domestic cups & Europa League every day & twice on Sunday!

AGREED.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:08:53
How can the fans proactively create pressure on Hicks and Gillete to leave.

Enough is enough, we can't keep carrying on like this.

-Just a Question- If Hicks gains control, then goes out in transfer market and gets a couple of players,

Will u guys Love him ?

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:06:06
Has anyone Created a forum to coordinate a fight back against Hicks.

Boycott Anfield and save the club

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:05:48

I fancy us for the FA Cup this season. So far this season seems to be a mirror image of the 1991/ 92 season. How about another 2-0 win in May? Believable or Unbelievable?

Unbelievable - simply because there is a gulf in class now so big between us and the top team(s) which wasn't so big back then.
We need to concentrate 100% on climbing the league as high as possible, let the kids play all cup comps as nothing else matters but getting back up that table imo.
Would swap 4th place for winning both domestic cups & Europa League every day & twice on Sunday!

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:05:27

Believable or Unbelievable - Talksport radio is always sensationalist and apocalyptic about Liverpool without actually knowing any facts.

They all slag Liverpool off 24/ 7, even Collymore who always says he loves the club shortly before slagging us off, only people I have time for on the station is Paul Hawkesby and Andy Jacobs who always see both sides of it. Should be renamed, Slag off LFC FM.

Sooty

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:04:33
Bottom of the Premiership

So i was looking at the table and it very possible that liverpool could be bottom of premiership come Saturday, 23 October 2010.

If we lose to sunderland and Everton, both of which i think are possible. Sunderland manager Steve Bruce has a very well organised team. They did well against arsenal.

Just have a Feeling that Everton will turn us over this time round. Evertons luck will change, Baines is in very good form.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:02:23

I am 100% certain H and G will leave so lets just wait and see who buys us. Speculation as to who it may be, or when it might happen, is beginning to become tiresome. Not a great start to the season, but under circumstance of little team investment, and 3 away games, City , Birmingham, United. to start with, I personally didn't expect us to have more than 7 points at this stage. So 5 points aint too bad AND if we beat the teams we expect to, then we should still challenge for top 4. What do you think Ed? {ed's note - I feel the same as you mate, I am just glad I still have a club to support.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 19:01:28

20 Sep 2010 17:54:09

20 Sep 2010 14:53:50

20 Sep 2010 14:45:46

Where is macca with all his statements on a done deal now that this refinancing is possible?
mickreds

THERE IS A LOT OF GRANDSTANDING TAKING PLACE FROM HICKS IN PARTICULAR. THIS IS ALL ABOUT DESPERATION AND HICKS WANTING A HEALTHIER PROFIT FROM THE SALE. H&G WILL BOTH GO. THIS RACE FOR REFINANCING BY HICKS WILL FAIL. THEN THE MYSTERIOUS BIDDERS THAT ARE UNKNOWN TO US AND THE MEDIA BECAUSE OF CONFIDENTIALITY CLAUSES AND OTHER AGREEMENTS WILL SOON COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK AND WE WILL HAVE NEW CUSTODIANS OF THIS TRUELY ADMIRED AND GREAT CLUB THROUGHOUT THE WORLD.


And because the media and press are not been fed any nuggets on the whole process (because of the confidentiality agreements), they continue to make apocalyptic comments about the club.
These confidentiality clauses are in place because some very wealthy and influential groups/ individuals do not want to be known as 'failed bidders' for Liverpool if Broughton does not choose them as new custodians of Liverpool FC.

RICH PEOPLE DON'T LIKE LOSING AT ANYTHING!

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:53:57

Talksport tonight 7 -10pm discussing Liverpool tonight. Mark Saggers the Presenter with Stan Collymore really dislikes Liverpool so really does sensationalise everything.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:51:32

I fancy us for the FA Cup this season. So far this season seems to be a mirror image of the 1991/ 92 season. How about another 2-0 win in May? Believable or Unbelievable?

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:36:26

I have been thinking of how we can proactively help create pressure on Hicks and Gillete and I think I have an Idea. We as a group of fans should target their other businesses. Hicks sports group as we know are in financial trouble and needs cash. I have been looking at there business and it dawned on me that Vistaprint advertise on their website so Hicks is earning from their advert. Why don't we bombard vistaprint with emails with the threat of boycotting their business unless they lose all ties to Hicks. We can expand on this idea by looking for other companies that are associated with their businesses. If enough of us do this it will hurt them in their pocket and just generally annoy them. What do you think guys? I know it is a time consuming exercise but we could all research the associates and make it happen. Jim

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:34:59

This reel black stone have rejects tom hicks for loan to buy loverpool from out right

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:25:47

Mickreds, how are you mate? I still stand by my statements from last week that Liverpool will have new owners soon, that is the info i have been told and have no reason whatsoever to doubt it.

I believe there will be all sorts of rumours regarding the club as the majority of the media are trying to create a story.

We will be fine.

Macca"

thanks for the response macca, wasnt trying to have a dig at you just merely stating that i hadnt seen you since the refinancing rumours broke. im not saying your not credible with your rumours i just remain sceptical after hearing so much and been let down so many times, i hope your right, do you have any remote time scale on when things will start to happen or any announcements? seems as though your sticking to your guns and hopefully soon enough you can tell everyone on here to get a dog up them. missing the old days of reading the good news on the net, not constantly turning on the computer to read bad news after bad news
cheers
mickreds

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:19:18

20 Sep 2010 17:40:05

"With all due respect you have no idea who i am and what i know. Do you think deals of this size are done in 5 mins, i have been told that we will be ok, i have no reason to doubt that.

I am sure over the weekend when you heard Hicks was trying to refinance i was not on here trying to backtrack.

What i am telling you about Ian is 1 million percent correct.

We are all fans together and i am just trying to pass on as much correct info that i can.

I am not passing on the info to get a pat on the back from your goodself, just trying to put peoples mind at ease.

Macca"

Why do you tell us the same thing every week then? If you are just trying to put peoples minds at ease why are you and Ian Ayres never right? Always you say it is a few days away and nearly done. One day you will be right. Anyone could write the same carp every week and one day be right. So at least one Liverpool fan here who does not want to here the same carp every week from you.

Deke Reefer

WHY DID TORRES AND GERRARD STAY THEN? THEY MUST HAVE BEEN TOLD SOMETHING THAT WE DON'T KNOW.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:17:17

20 Sep 2010 16:04:34

Ed, As you already have mentioned that you think that the club would be taken over? I just want to ask that do you think that Hicks would fail in his bid to refinance the debt? its good to hear that he's lost it atleast for now. . {ed's note - Hicks will have to perform a miracle to get someone to refinance him to gain full control over Liverpool. He has failed miserably in his numerous spells as owner of sports teams, he has become a bad risk and this is not the time to lend to those.}

BOTH HICKS AND GILLETT ARE FINISHED. THEY ARE PERSONA NON GRATA IN THE SPORTS AND FINANCIAL SECTOR IN NORTH AMERICA.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:16:53

The Guardian is a respected Newspaper, their article this morning, I believe to be completely true.
Hicks has two weeks to find new backers, he will fail because he cannot use the club or players as collateral. He did try but was blocked by the board. It would be nice if Hicks and Gillette failed to make a proffit from the sale of the club. The truth is, they have made of lot of money from their expense claims and have never been in danger of losing any cash at all. They borrowed the money to buy LFC and the club has been paying the interest all along. Without those charges we would be over £40 mill in the black
and that's for this year alone.
With a new stadium, LFC could be the richest club in the world. . . If you think LFC is not worth £600 mill then think again. . .

Paggsy503

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:09:50
Come on. .give RH a break. That guy's been in charge for barely 10 games with issues all around. With low budget spending on players and morale issues in the locker room with regards to ownership of the club, any big clubs would've been in same form. Do take note that ManUre started with the wrong note seasons back but they came back with a bang!. .without any issues whatsoever concerning morale or club ownership under SAF! When the new owner is set for the club, and if RH continues this form, then we can be critical towards him, for there's no reason whatsoever to go backwards. We'll be back in track in October. YNWA.

"Does anyone think we've gone backwards since last season?As far as i'm concerned Hodgson is not up to it and people can say he needs time but look at our performances so far this season , the players look like they don't know what position there playing in , there no shape to the team, we sit back and allow teams to dictate the play.Hodgson is way out of his depth lets hope his reign won't be a long one, we're 10 points behind after 5 games that's bulls* t.We're a shambles with that clown in charge.

Think we're very similar to last season actually.
Still no striker back up (N'gog not up to it).
Still stuck with some inept midfielders.
No real change.
We're no worse in game for game results as for last season though. In fact we may even be a point up. Cant remember us having such a difficult start in 22 years as a fan though so chin up for now.
Its early yet, only 33 games to go like!"

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 18:05:21

I believe Torres would have reached the through ball fro Meireles if he had not been fouled by O' Shea. Because of this O' Shea should have got red. Also if Torres had not been fouled, Van der Saar would not have raced out because he may have brought Torres down. The icing on the cake was O' Shea who should have been sent off, crossed the ball for Berbatov to score his winning third goal. VERY POOR.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 17:58:02

20 Sep 2010 15:29:33

GOKHAM INLER in an £8M move to LIVERPOOL freeing up LUCAS to move to INTER.
HOW LONG WILL RAFA LAST?

Inler was absolutely dreadful for the Swiss against England a couple of weeks ago. Not more dross added to the squad. Give Shelvey some time for the 1st team, to me he looks very classy and knows what to do and do it well.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 17:37:01
Plez go to man u banter side n watch arsenal n our best 22year@under players.maybe u can post ur own under 22 players to make a comparison.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 17:36:20

On a lighter note, did you see that little slime ball nani squaring up to agger.
like a little poodle barking at a great dane
good to see abit of passion from agger

 

 

20 Sep 2010 17:30:17

Why would Hicks fail - because the Liverpool fans dislike him? I think not. How would RBS pass - they went bust and were resuced by the Treasury?

Sharkey.

You are underestimating the power of LFC fans Sharkey!

IF Hicks gets refinancing then there's no doubt that our fans/ family will bring him to his knee's.

You are a Chelski fan Sharkey so you wouldn't know what it feels like to be part of a Great, Historious and Family orientated club.

I'm ranting at you mate because some of you're recent posts that i've been fortunate to read it looks as if you're siding with that b*stard Hicks. Not because you you're a Chelski fan and hate everthing Liverpool but because you're American.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 17:27:35

Guardian newspaper 2.00pm monday 20th sept
hicks deal has collapsed - is this true ED? what will it mean?

romblonred

{Editor's Note: It means he will look elsewhere for funding.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 17:07:25

WALK ON WALK ON WALK ON. . . . . .HICKS HAVE THAT HOW DOES THAT FEEL ITS GOT TO HURT ha . THATS HOW IT GOES U BEGG FOR MONEY AN U GET A NO CAN DO, WELL I HOPE THEY ALL SEE U 4 WHOT U ARE A VERY BAD PENNY(BLACKSTONE) WELL DONE, , , , , , , , , I HEAR THAT THEY GOT E MAIL AFTER E MAIL FROM LFC FANS ED CAN U TELL ME IF THATS TRUE MATE . ANYWAY ED WHOT I WANTED 2 ASK U IS DO U THINK THAT HE WILL GIVE UP THE FIGHT NOW AN JUST TAKE THE LOW OFFER THAT I STILL THINK IS ON THE TABLE? WHY ARE LFC TOP BRASS NOT SAYING ANYTHING ED 4 ME THIS IS NOW WAY OUT OF HAND EVERY TIME WE ARE GOING IN TO A GAME THERE IS A BIG STORY OUT EVEY TIME IT MUST GET 2 THE PLAYERS ED IT MUST DO?? I JUST HOPE ITS DONE VERY SOON NOW AN LET US GET ON WITH THE FOOTBALL. . WE NEED A BUYER AN THEN ROY TO SETTLE THE SIDE DOWN AN GET THE WINS COMING IN , , , , , , , IM LIVERPOOL TILL I DIE, , , SOS TO BUYERS OUT THERE WE NEED HELP ASAP U WILL BE GETTING A VERY GREAT CLUB AT A VERY GREAT PRICE NOW 4 SURE, , JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE UP THE POOL. . . . .

{Editor's Note: Quite frankly I think the fans are turning themselves in to jokes doing all of this. It won't help.}

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 17:04:20

Sorry lads im copying from ssn but hay a bit of releaf id rather go to admin then let that poxy c* t get full control even if he is the one who appologised for this debacle:

Liverpool look no closer to resolving their ownership issues after the Blackstone investment group ruled out financially backing co-owner Tom Hicks with a full buy out.
Hicks had been linked in a Sunday newspaper to be close to arranging a £280million deal to take partner George Gillett's stake in the Merseyside club and take full charge for the next two years.
It is understood that the Blackstone group held talks with Hicks several weeks ago to allow him to pay off the £237million debt that was owed to the Royal Bank of Scotland in mid-October.
However, it would appear that they have opted against any deal to leave Hicks, who placed the club up for sale alongside Gillett in April this year, no closer to arranging a sale.
Relief
The decision is likely to come as a relief to many of the club's supporters, who have lodged fierce protests over their American owners, with the Texan in particular, about the way they have run the club since buying it in 2007.
Liverpool have seen several degrees of interest fall by the wayside in recent months, with Chinese businessman Kenny Huang's consortium and one run by Syrian tycoon Yahya Kirdi both ruling out takeovers.
With Martin Broughton installed as a new chairman and go-between for negotiations between potential buyers, a deal to sell the club was thought to be under increasing importance to the future of the club.
However, with no takeover happening in time for the end of the August transfer window, manager Roy Hodgson has had little finances to play with.
Hicks in particular is still desperate to maximise a profit and sell the club for around £600million, but it is thought that he has been advised that a figure rising above £400million is an unlikely prospect.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 17:03:07

All over the weekend we have read every newspaper article and internet site stating that they are aware that Hicks is on the verge of buying out the debt. Know they are stating they are aware that he is not getting the money. They are making it up as they go along.

Tony Evans is probably right about Board room being in Meltdown (this is not rocket science). Ownership is the only item on the agenda and its Broughton & co V Hicks and Gillett. Harmony will only be created when we have new owners.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:57:39

Does anyone think we've gone backwards since last season?As far as i'm concerned Hodgson is not up to it and people can say he needs time but look at our performances so far this season , the players look like they don't know what position there playing in , there no shape to the team, we sit back and allow teams to dictate the play.Hodgson is way out of his depth lets hope his reign won't be a long one, we're 10 points behind after 5 games that's bulls* t.We're a shambles with that clown in charge.

Think we're very similar to last season actually.
Still no striker back up (N'gog not up to it).
Still stuck with some inept midfielders.
No real change.
We're no worse in game for game results as for last season though. In fact we may even be a point up. Cant remember us having such a difficult start in 22 years as a fan though so chin up for now.
Its early yet, only 33 games to go like!

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:52:39

Unsigned wrote 20 Sep 2010 16:39:44:

"Apparently LFC assets could be worth as little as 150Mill including players and stadium etc in todays market. . . at that price the fans could manage a leveraged buy-out of the club if they could raise between 15-45 million as a deposit. . . not much when you look at how much money there is flying around football. We could force this through if we get organised . . . . .and find a few wealthy backers to act as gaurantors.

It would be a rocky road but at the end of it WE would own the club and would be able to invest all of the club profits into players and grounds rather than loan interest payments and fat cat pockets - this would give us a financial edge in the long run and make us truely untouchable

We just need to stand as one against profiteerers"

I assume this is some kind of joke. What about the loans - RBS and to Hicks & Gillett? So the fans would leverage a buyout - and the stadium costs, and the running of the club, and buying players? Out of business within months. The tangible assets of the club are around £50M by the way. There are then the intangible assets.

Sharkey.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:48:37

Ed, what do you think about using Carragher as a defensive mid? Would provide experience for the kelly and ayala and playing him there would prevent a back lash from carragher lovers (I am one btw. I assume all lfc fans are, but his time's up for a centre back role imo).

Reina
kelly ayala agger konchesky

carragher

gerrard meirelesbabel cole
torres {ed's note - he started out as a defensive midfielder and wasn't really good enough in that position for me. Hate to say it, because Carra is a great lad, but I think his time as a first teamer is coming to an end.}

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:42:03

Does anyone think we've gone backwards since last season?As far as i'm concerned Hodgson is not up to it and people can say he needs time but look at our performances so far this season , the players look like they don't know what position there playing in , there no shape to the team, we sit back and allow teams to dictate the play.Hodgson is way out of his depth lets hope his reign won't be a long one, we're 10 points behind after 5 games that's bulls* t.We're a shambles with that clown in charge.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:39:44

Apparently LFC assets could be worth as little as 150Mill including players and stadium etc in todays market. . . at that price the fans could manage a leveraged buy-out of the club if they could raise between 15-45 million as a deposit. . . not much when you look at how much money there is flying around football. We could force this through if we get organised . . . . .and find a few wealthy backers to act as gaurantors.

It would be a rocky road but at the end of it WE would own the club and would be able to invest all of the club profits into players and grounds rather than loan interest payments and fat cat pockets - this would give us a financial edge in the long run and make us truely untouchable

We just need to stand as one against profiteerers


That'd be the dream mate.
Wish we would all pull together & do it.
Not sure where you're getting your figures from though - sounds a little iffy.
Irish Kev

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:38:49

It just goe's to show you what excatly the crappy tabloids know what's happening at our great club.

Yesterday everyone of them including the Financial Times said that the Hicks refinancing was more or less a done deal again they all got it totally wrong.

I've been saying it for ages don't believe anything you read in those rags/ newspapers after all they have no love at all for our beloved club.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:37:29

This is *****r** speaking
having read fergies comments after the game it just goes to show how much he detests everything about lfc he says it could have been 10nil we offered nothing scholes ran the midfield and torres tried his best to get oshea sent off by making a meal of the challenge on him also that this result is a catastrophe for liverpool and we had to rely on a poor linesman to get back into the game.so fergie what about the penalty shouldnt that have been given and wasnt oshea the last man when he brought down torres a clear sending of then oshea provides the pass for berbaflop to net the winner and all is forgiven for his inept performances last season when the manure fans and there were thousands of them wanting him sold.but howerd webb your favorite ref made sure he stayed on the pitch if that would have been any other teams player you would have gone berserk and made sure they never refereed another game at old trafford these things even themselves out over the season and im sure you will get your cumuppence and i can't wait to see the smile wiped of you h*cking face you purple nose sh*e

yep and nani was a saint too

 

 

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:21:59

Looks like hicks master plan has fell short hopefully this could be fock off and good riddance, psv elnino

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:15:09
This is theturdz speaking
having read fergies comments after the game it just goes to show how much he detests everything about lfc he says it could have been 10nil we offered nothing scholes ran the midfield and torres tried his best to get oshea sent off by making a meal of the challenge on him also that this result is a catastrophe for liverpool and we had to rely on a poor linesman to get back into the game.so fergie what about the penalty shouldnt that have been given and wasnt oshea the last man when he brought down torres a clear sending of then oshea provides the pass for berbaflop to net the winner and all is forgiven for his inept performances last season when the manure fans and there were thousands of them wanting him sold.but howerd webb your favorite ref made sure he stayed on the pitch if that would have been any other teams player you would have gone berserk and made sure they never refereed another game at old trafford these things even themselves out over the season and im sure you will get your cumuppence and i can't wait to see the smile wiped of you f*cking face you purple nose t* t

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:06:09

Tell him to get his hand in his pocket then the tight fisted wa- er

Mukesh Ambani (born on 19 April 1957) is an Indian business magnate and the chairman and managing director of Reliance Industries, the largest private sector enterprise in India, a Fortune 500 company, and one of the largest private sector conglomerate in world.

As of July 2010, he is the richest man in Asia and the fourth richest man in the world with a personal wealth of US$29.0 billion. On 29 October 2007, there was a strong bull rally in the Indian stock market and the appreciation of the Indian rupee, which boosted the market capitalisation of all reliance group companies in which Mukesh Ambani has a very significant stake resulting to make him the world's richest man, with net worth climbing to US$63.2 billion leaving Bill Gates behind at around $56 billion.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:05:40

Hello i am a liverpool fan from the west midlands i feel that we will get 6 points from the next 2 games and with this team can go far this year.
reina
johnson
carra
agger
konchesky
kuyt( i know he is injured at the mo)
meireles
gerrard
jovanovic
cole
torres

come on the reds!

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 16:00:58

Apparently LFC assets could be worth as little as 150Mill including players and stadium etc in todays market. . . at that price the fans could manage a leveraged buy-out of the club if they could raise between 15-45 million as a deposit. . . not much when you look at how much money there is flying around football. We could force this through if we get organised . . . . .and find a few wealthy backers to act as gaurantors.

It would be a rocky road but at the end of it WE would own the club and would be able to invest all of the club profits into players and grounds rather than loan interest payments and fat cat pockets - this would give us a financial edge in the long run and make us truely untouchable

We just need to stand as one against profiteerers

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 15:59:00

Good News. Look like another company doesn't want to help out the yanks

"The future ownership of Liverpool appears as uncertain as ever after the investment group Blackstone ruled out financially backing the club's current co-owner Tom Hicks.

Blackstone's GSO Capital Partners had held talks with the Texan over providing the cash to allow him to pay off the £237million owed to the Royal Bank of Scotland - and that figure is likely to be significantly higher due to penalty fees - before the mid-October deadline and remain in control of the club.

According to a Sunday newspaper, Hicks was close to agreeing a £280million two-year deal which would see him buy out co-owner George Gillett and remain in charge of the club.

It is understood that Blackstone opened talks with Hicks some weeks ago but have now decided against any deal."

Roll on Oct 6th when RBS call in their debts, the yanks fail to come up with the money and hopefully we can look forward to the future

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 15:55:51


20 Sep 2010 14:45:46

Where is macca with all his statements on a done deal now that this refinancing is possible?
mickreds


Refinancing was always a possibility especially with H&G at the helm and probably still is.

With todays statement from Blackstone about not backing Hicks probably isn't a big supprise but we are not out of the woods yet.

What happens IF there is no buyers/ bidders waiting?

I'll not be getting carried away with the Blackstone statement as you can gurantee that Hicks will try somthing else. But with Blackstone telling Hicks to f*ck off for me is a good sign as Hicks is said to have friends on the Blackstone board so if they won't back him who will?

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 15:53:58

20 Sep 2010 15:09:32

20 Sep 2010 15:00:24

Anybody hear the 'breathless and exciteable' Tony Evans, Deputy Sports Editor of The Times last night on Talksport? He again stated that Liverpool were in meltdown off the pitch. But he did admit there are several interested parties who were unwilling to pay the price wanted by H&G. As ever he still sees the Huang bid as 'real', above board and not publicity seeking. But he would wouldn't he after so whole heartedly publicising Huang on the front page and sports pages of The Times over a whole week in early August.

EVANS SHOULD RESIGN! HE'S AN ANNOYING NUMPTY WHO WAS TAKEN IN BY HUANG.

BBC Radio Norwich for Tony Evans just like Alan Partridge!

 

 

20 Sep 2010 15:42:40

Ok . . I have sent the emails to the addressees as requested. . .lets hope they get the message

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 15:12:40

Well done fans! Show more hostility towards the yanks and their men. .
First achievement- blackstone pulls out.
Go on with it. SOS!
Protest after the sunderland game. But get behind entirely during the game. Let stevie G score again and point to a flag saying yanks out. Let it be our next achievement.
Go fans go!
Go Ed go. Am sure you can help us a great deal through this wonderful site . I would like to see more links leading to this site. .

Am An indian die hard liverpool fan who jumped up and down when we equalised yesterday .

Am a fan of this site too !

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 15:09:32

20 Sep 2010 15:00:24

Anybody hear the 'breathless and exciteable' Tony Evans, Deputy Sports Editor of The Times last night on Talksport? He again stated that Liverpool were in meltdown off the pitch. But he did admit there are several interested parties who were unwilling to pay the price wanted by H&G. As ever he still sees the Huang bid as 'real', above board and not publicity seeking. But he would wouldn't he after so whole heartedly publicising Huang on the front page and sports pages of The Times over a whole week in early August.

EVANS SHOULD RESIGN! HE'S AN ANNOYING NUMPTY WHO WAS TAKEN IN BY HUANG.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 15:09:19

MORAL VICTORY FOR REDS FANS

Blackstone pullout of HICKS backside with no offer on the table

ALL TOGETHER SIMPSONS STYLE

NAN NAN NAN NAN NAN NAN NAN NAN HICKS GOODBYE YA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 15:07:01

Mukesh Ambani (born on 19 April 1957) is an Indian business magnate and the chairman and managing director of Reliance Industries, the largest private sector enterprise in India, a Fortune 500 company, and one of the largest private sector conglomerate in world.

As of July 2010, he is the richest man in Asia and the fourth richest man in the world with a personal wealth of US$29.0 billion. On 29 October 2007, there was a strong bull rally in the Indian stock market and the appreciation of the Indian rupee, which boosted the market capitalisation of all reliance group companies in which Mukesh Ambani has a very significant stake resulting to make him the world's richest man, with net worth climbing to US$63.2 billion leaving Bill Gates behind at around $56 billion.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 14:59:29

Anybody hear the 'breathless and exciteable' Deputy Sports Editor of The Times last night on Talksport? He again stated that Liverpool were in meltdown off the pitch. But he did admit there are several interested parties who were unwilling to pay the price wanted by H&G. As ever he still sees the Huang bid as 'real', above board and not publicity seeking. But he would wouldn't he after so whole heartedly publicising Huang on the front page and sports pages of The Times over a whole week in early August.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 14:54:32

After Liverpool fans make it clear to the depth of hostility, Blackstone has walked away from Hicks WITH NO OFFER on the table.There is no chance of Blackstone subsidary lending Hicks the money.
NEWSNOW
REDMAN

 

 

20 Sep 2010 14:48:55

FROM LAST NIGHT - {ed's note - time and stability is needed. Something that was sadly lacking under Rafa as he was too busy fighting with everyone and buying and selling players like it was going out of fashion. What we need is a settled period, under a calm, collected manager who is prepared to make steady progress rather than looking to do everything over night. Patience and support is needed from the fans too.}

I THINK THIS IS RIGHT. WE NEED TO BACK HODGSON AND THE TEAM. WITH ALL THE OFF FIELD ACTIVITIES OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, WE ALWAYS KNEW THIS SEASON WOULD BE 'DIFFICULT'.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 14:43:02

Wel ed just a taught but would like you view

this crap about hicks buying the club do you think it just him trying to push a deal before the deadline the banks have giving so he can get a few pound rather than none. .

lets be real the banks won't give anyone finance to buy a house

they not going to give that plonker more money. .

what you think ed

the face man {ed's note - I think that was all it was, he has no intention of keeping hold of the club.}

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 14:32:38
Re the post about Carragher being loyal and faithful for many years. I have been loyal and faithful for more than fifty years. Can I make my debut on Wednesday or must I wait for the match against Sunderland. Even at my age I can jump higher than Carragher. Also, there is a lot of admiration for Berbatov's 2nd goal yesterday. If you look again you will see that he was as surprised at the rest of us thatit went in! It's typical though - Kuyt (100% team)does an overhead kick and gets injured, Berbatov (20% team , and 80% self) scores and becomes a hero to his own fans who up to yesterday hated his guts!

 

 

20 Sep 2010 14:28:07

I thought we were pretty poor yesterday but think it can and will get better. Realise the following set of results are optimistic but they are possible, particularly if Torres can cause the same problems he did in the second half yesterday. .

Sunderland (Home) Win

Blackpool (Home) Win

Everton (Away) Draw

Blackburn (Home) Win

Bolton (Away) Win

Chelsea (Home) Lose

Wigan (Away) Win

Stoke (Away) Draw

West Ham (Home) Win

Spurs (Away) Draw

Villa (Home) Win

Newcastle (Away) Win

Fulham (Home) Win

Blackpool (Away) Win

Wolves (Home) Win



All above results are possible and would give us 41 points by New Year…comfortably enough to be in Top Four. .

 

 

20 Sep 2010 14:23:41

Hey, glad to see all the talk of boycott today, after hearing the news about the yank.

I would like to make some suggestions:

'We have a decent track record of taking on and beating those who attempt to blacken the name of Liverpool Football Club. As an example, the Boycott of the Sun Newspaper following their disgraceful coverage of the Hillsborough Disaster in 1989 is said to have cost News International an estimated £10 million a year.'


I really think that 'decent' should be changed to something stronger.

Secondly, someone posted a list of products associated with Blackstone. I know this sounds horrible, but I feel the most effective boycott would simply be Liverpool FC products and tickets. Can't see that happening though, United fans protest every week against the Glazers with their scarves and yet they still turn up to the matches and line the yanks' pockets.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 14:19:17
20 Sep 2010 12:23:57
Liverpool Rumours
Sell Johnson, if anyone will buy him?

Why not instead play him on the right of midfield and play Kelly at right back. It may work out the same as Bale has for spurs. What do you think Ed?

{Editor's Note: It is a possibility.}

(25) (2)

Why not put Johnson on the bench until he can defend or attack.! absolute rubbish, he spends more time tucking his bloody hair up than he does doing any defending.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 14:12:20

Im glad someone agrees with my earlier post at
20 Sep 2010 12:27:41
i was starting to think all liverpool fans were thinking it was the end of our club and that we should just give up but that not the liverpool way, ROY WILL GET IT RIGHT.
in Roy i trust

Barnsey

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 13:22:18

Guys no fears yet we have had the hardest start from anyone in the league and will get better. This is the team that MUST be played until January:

Reina
Johnson Carragher Agger Koncheskey

Meireles Poulsen Gerrard
Cole

Torres Kuyt

Subs:
Jones, Skrtel, Aurelio, Lucas, Jovanovic, Babel, N'Gog

In january the following must happen:
OUT:
Charles Itandje - Lille - 1m
Maxi Rodriguez - Valencia - 3m
NEITHER ARE GOOD ENOUGH FOR US AND MUST GO - DAVID N'GOG CAN BE ADDED TO THIS LIST IN THE SUMMER

IN:
Matias Fernandez - Sporting Lisbon - 8m
Marko Marin - Werder Bremen - 10m
Eljero Elia - Hamburg - 11m
Miroslav Klose + Daniel Pranjic - B Munich - 8.5m
Total: 37.5m

The takover will be done by this time and this then gives us a very promising team:

Reina
Johnson Carragher Agger Koncheskey

Marin Gerrard Meireles Cole

Torres Elia

Subs:
Jones, Skrtel, Pranjic, Poulsen, Fernandez, Kuyt, Klose

And don't forget our youngsters like Amoo, Kelly, Ayala, Wilson, Shelvey, Eccleston, Pacheco etc being gradually bought into the side


The first line i agree with, The rest - No.
If it was as easy as that we'd be champions by February. For one - if you think all those players would only come to 37 - 38m you're nuts!
Two - who said the teams would sell those players in Jan when most will still be challenging for trophies.
Three - Itanje to be sold for £1m?
Cant see us getting £1 never mind £1m!
Sorry mate, wish you were right & it all came that easy.
Irish Kev.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 13:03:35

I can understand why fans are keen on sending a letter to Blackstone/ GSO, as allowing Hicks to take sole control of the club would be the worst possible scenario for the club and the fans. However I think the letter would be completely futile. Yes the boycott of the S*n has hit New International, but not enough to get a proper apology and retraction and many fans will still support MUrdoch in other ways (Sky TV). It is easy enough for individuals to switch newspapers epecially from one as poor as the S*n without any significant financial cost or other adverse effect. Potential clients of Blackstone/ GSO though are not in the same position. The are looking to undertake business deals where potenitally millions of pounds are to be won or lost. Furthermore they are not typically private individuals but companies. No company director could take a moral stand of boycotting Blackstone or GSO if to go with them was good for their business. To do so would be illegal (as it is not protecting shareholder interests) and could be very damaging for their careers. To my mind the only action we can take is to ensure that Hicks knows that if he takes control then the value of the club will drop further - no shirt sales, no ticket sales. The danger is we risk taking the club further down with him.

On a brighter note I would be surprised if the refinancing was successful. Hicks is definitely subprime at the moment and Blackstone/ GSO would be aware that the value of the collateral (LFC) would drop under Hick's continued ownership.

Bob

 

 

20 Sep 2010 13:01:29

Please stop posting on here tom hicks jr


Surely hicks refinancing is a way of helping all parties get the desired end result?
the club will not be bought before oct 6th so hicks is buying more time to sell the club. he does not want and extra, higher intrest loan so that he can say on for years to come. its just a stop-gap/ time filler until we all get what we want, including hicks.
surley the CLUB will be in a worse state if we can't sell or refinace before the deadline.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 12:59:34

Why oh why can't you get a fan based takeover sorted out!you must have 1 million supporters world wide, a trust fund at £10 pounds per month should be able to clear your debts in two years, in four years your transfer kitty would be MASSIVE!and you would RE-OWN your club, stop waiting for some money from people who only want personal profit, even if it takes 5 years it will still mean you and only you the fans, will own and control what you love!even some of the players would agree to help out!sponsors would love to be involved, TV rights would put you in a fantastic financial possition, so organize now or, and you know Im right, you will be walking alone.cfcmark.


I'd be well up for this but don't think many other fans wpuld be as they would be afraid of what would be happening to their money.
Ed, (not sure which ed i'm talking to now) if you are the Liverpool supporting Ed what would you make of the suggestion of all us fans chipping in?
I'd be happy to stick my bit in whether it be a lump sum of say £500 or monthly payments of £25 but can't see many copying.
If you do agree with the idea can you try to organise something from your end by maybe setting up something on this site at the top of the page to at least suggest the option to fans.
Its probably a crazy idea but maybe worth looking into if (BIG IF) Hicks tries to take over.
Cheers Ed,
Irish Kev, {ed's note - I did try organising a loose attempt to gauge interest on this idea but got very little in the way of people expressing interest. It needs a number of people to organise it, with expertise I don't have, but if people here think it is worthwhile I will look into it again and see if we can just come up with some way of doing it.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 12:55:30

Dear Ed & all my fellow kopites,

A few weeks ago i had a rant about the owners and made the statement that it would take our club years to recover unless the owners sold up by the deadline. now it looks like we won't be bought until the end of 2011.

We can say what we want about the owners, one thing is for sure, neither the owners nor the banks care about the history, pride or tradition of our club. They certainly don't care about sentiment, they see it as a business, an investment scheme in which they stand to lose money or at very best break even. Its about time liverpool fans realise that.

Its too late for boycott's, ranting emails to investment bankers etc, at the end of the day they will just sell to the best bidder, lets not pretend that the previous owners were any better at stabilising the clubs finances.

It looks like Torres wants out, how on earth Maxi stayed on the pitch for an hour against Man Utd i will never know, need to get rid of him and the other players who just arent good enough, babel, lucas, kyriagos etc

Sorry to be negative, but when the last time we did anything of significance since istanbul?

Yanks out.

YNWA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 12:50:59

I can't see liverpool beating sunderland, we will struggle to beat blackpool, every game this season has been dreadfull to watch hodgsons style of play is not the liverpool way we are not fulham icant bear to watch anymore games, all liverpool buys apart from cole and mierelles have beena waste if time and money.
liverpool are sinking faster than the titanic

 

 

20 Sep 2010 12:44:44
I Think there were a lot more positives to be taken than people think!
the point i would like to make is that the team is in an early stage of rebuilding since rafa messed up the team along with mash wanting out and torres not fully fit, roy has come in with his own ideas which will take prob ten games to get thru to the players, new players have come in 4 of which are prob going to be in starting line-up. out of them 4 cole got sent of in his 1st game so hasnt really played with gerrard and torres etc, meireles only made his 1st start and konchesky and poulsen only played twice in league. so team is still getting used to each other but from what i have seen all four have shown that they will be good signings especially meireles who looks like linking with gerrard really well. now i know its not all rosey far from it but lets use the positves and not pick on the negatives all the time. I would like to say tho that i do agree with most people in the fact that johnson and carra should be dropped and kelly and agger to come in but apart from that we will(at least on the field) be fine, just got to give it another 5 games or so to gel, but looking at the next few fixtures i think the results will defo start to come, also we have had a tough starting run of games with 3 of the top 5 teams and birmingham who don't lose at home.

ed do you agree with any of this or am i just to much of an optimist? any one else think like me on this?

{Editor's Note: I generally agree.}

Couldn't of said it better myself! Reckon we will win our next 3 games against Sunderland, Blackpool and Everton and the league will look completely different for us! The team is starting to gel so don't worry my fellow reds!

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 12:31:14

Hi i said a couple of weeks ago RBS has an open general meeting on the 23rd of september well liverpool fans need to be taken serious or are club will be left with a total money grabbing idiot am not saying we need to cause an issue but we need are voices to be heard, also we need to email all these compaines who hicks has gone cap in hand to and start to get are club back after yesterday performance we need a lot of work, or we will lose gerard, torres and pepe reina, we all need to stand up know and let are voices to be heard.
liverpool is a great club which needs an owner who cares, we don't want all these 30 million pound players we want player who are proud to wer the liverpool shirt , and a new stadium we bring the added revenue but with hicks in sole charge this will never happen

a dedicated lfc fan

 

 

20 Sep 2010 12:27:41

I Think there were a lot more positives to be taken than people think! !
the point i would like to make is that the team is in an early stage of rebuilding since rafa messed up the team along with mash wanting out and torres not fully fit, roy has come in with his own ideas which will take prob ten games to get thru to the players, new players have come in 4 of which are prob going to be in starting line-up. out of them 4 cole got sent of in his 1st game so hasnt really played with gerrard and torres etc, meireles only made his 1st start and konchesky and poulsen only played twice in league. so team is still getting used to each other but from what i have seen all four have shown that they will be good signings especially meireles who looks like linking with gerrard really well. now i know its not all rosey far from it but lets use the positves and not pick on the negatives all the time. I would like to say tho that i do agree with most people in the fact that johnson and carra should be dropped and kelly and agger to come in but apart from that we will(at least on the field) be fine, just got to give it another 5 games or so to gel, but looking at the next few fixtures i think the results will defo start to come, also we have had a tough starting run of games with 3 of the top 5 teams and birmingham who don't lose at home.

ed do you agree with any of this or am i just to much of an optimist? any one else think like me on this?

{Editor's Note: I generally agree.}

 

 

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 12:17:31

In Reply:

20 Sep 2010 10:00:38

I've heard that Spirit of Shankly are preparing a big response to these latest stories, including the boycott of games to hit Hicks in his pocket.

Im not going to say if its a good or bad move, but what does everyone think?

If you would support an LFC boycott, please hit 'Believable' and visa versa.

Whats the point in a bycott, fair enough we get a poit across but imagine Liverpool v Blackpool In Anfield Octiober 3rd no home fans. Personally im not bycotting that match or anyother we are supporters who pay good money to see our heros play. I have been planning my trip to Anfield for a while now and ive paid alot of money to make this happen in flights ect ect considering i have to travel a good distance to get there will i be classed a scab if i pass through the gates on match day. Remember Youll Never Walk Alone try telling that to whatever team arrives to play on the day of your bycott. This won't happen as too many people put too much money away to make the visit to anfield a reality. C'mon Roy get things right. P.S the yankers will not get a stay of execution the club will be sold to the highest bidder regardless of whats best for the club.

YNWA Quigz23

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 12:02:36

Letter sent - good work chaps, thanks.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 11:59:49

Carling Cup- Liverpool v Northampton, win
Premier-Liverpool v Sunderland, draw/ lost
Europa -FC Utrecht v Liverpool, win
Premier-Liverpool v Blackpool, win
Premier -Everton v Liverpool, draw/ lost

Then we will be bottom of the league. I think where going to slip up at sunderland and everton. Getting goals is a real problem.


Sorry but this gentleman is a C**t!

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 11:52:02

"After seeing all our games this season I'm sorry to say that carragher should no longer be first choice CB anymore.He's been a great servant to the club and a great talisman for us, and can still be a influence when needed.His lack of pace , his passing and his judgement is just not good enough anymore.He's made to many errors again this season, our defence sits far to deep to make up for his lack of pace and passing abilities.Roy has to look to the future and make Skirtl and Agger first choice centrebacks.
After yesterday only GERRARD & REINA should be 1st choice"

agreed re centre-backs - Mereiles looked sharp as did Cole

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 11:34:06
A group of Reds have come up with the letter below, please send it to the parties addressed, we need to show that we are serious.

Hicks must be stopped.

Dear Sirs,

If your company agrees a £280million refinancing deal with Tom Hicks to retain his share in Liverpool Football Club, then the only return that you will see on your investment is bad publicity and a severe backlash from Liverpool supporters worldwide.

As you are aware, Hicks is trying to refinance his debt to the Royal Bank of Scotland before October 6th so that he can continue his disastrous ownership of Liverpool Football Club.

There is no point in us listing the countless and well-documented offenses of the grossly destructive reign of Tom Hicks and George Gillett. The media is full of articles about them. And that is the point. No longer do we rely on the occasional heroic journalist to expose corruption within institutions we hold dear. This is a new age, an era of organized resistance at the click of a mouse.

You are facing an energized, well-informed mass of Liverpool fans from around the world. We are tapped into a constant stream of information on the ownership situation. Every day, dozens of web forums buzz with the latest news. Protest marches, newspaper ads, boycotts and billboards are organized. Every move Hicks makes is scrutinized. And every associate of his is warned.

Refinancing is our nightmare scenario. Anybody who helps Tom Hicks refinance will become our primary target.

We have a decent track record of taking on and beating those who attempt to blacken the name of Liverpool Football Club. As an example, the Boycott of the Sun Newspaper following their disgraceful coverage of the Hillsborough Disaster in 1989 is said to have cost News International an estimated £10 million a year.

If the Blackstone Group / GSO Capital Partners join forces with Tom Hicks in raping and pillaging Liverpool Football Club, then you will be making a very powerful enemy.

You have been warned.

Yours faithfully,

To: -

stephen.schwarzman@blackstone.com; info@blackstone.com; blackstoneinvestorrelations@blackstone.com; bennett.goodman@blackstone.com; laurence.tosi@blackstone.com; Kathleen.Skero@blackstone.com; mayank.rawat@blackstone.com; amit.dixit@blackstone.com; sheetal.thakkar@blackstone.com; cathy.gao@blackstone.com; scott.wong@blackstone.com; bryan.shelby@blackstone.com; debbie.chen@blackstone.com; laura.albero@blackstone.com; ronak.patel@blackstone.com; alexander.wolf@blackstone.com; whitney@blackstone.com; timothy.white@gsocap.com; marketing@gsocap.com; michael.a.puglisi1@gmail.com; kathleen.skero@blackstone.com; richard.gannalo@gsocap.com; lauren.hubbert@gsocap.com; john.cashwell@gsocap.com; eric.storch@gsocap.com; james.didden@gsocap.com; nitin.karnani@gsocap.com; jason.new@gsocap.com



. .Please, everyone post this email. It'a a good idea.
RHI

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 11:33:50
20 Sep 2010 08:08:31

After seeing all our games this season I'm sorry to say that carragher should no longer be first choice CB anymore.He's been a great servant to the club and a great talisman for us, and can still be a influence when needed.His lack of pace , his passing and his judgement is just not good enough anymore.He's made to many errors again this season, our defence sits far to deep to make up for his lack of pace and passing abilities.Roy has to look to the future and make Skirtl and Agger first choice centrebacks.
After yesterday only GERRARD & REINA should be 1st choice

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 11:18:49
Stop playing internet managers!and start becoming actual owners, start a fans buy-out, it realy does not matter who plays where at this moment, or who you would like to buy, if you don't take control of Liverpool fc, you will be contiualy owned by parasites bleeding your beloved club dry, or are you to tight fisted to put your hands in your own pockets to save your club, maybe your just to lazy to get organized, this might help get you off your a* es, Everton may become the ONLY club on merseyside, you will be non-league if you don't act soon, CFCMARK,

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 11:14:52

Wel ed

just your taught if we arent took over by january window who would you like to see being bought.

and if we are took over who would you like to see.

the face man {ed's note - I think I have said a few times who I would like if money was no object, just 2 players, as I feel that is the most that should ever be bought in January, Keisuke Honda and Alexis Sanchez. They would give us what we lack, pace in the wide areas and the ability to frighten the opposition. Sanchez can play on either wing or behind the striker/ s and I have seen him play up front, great on the ball and plenty of pace. Honda is the ultimate jack of all trades, as we saw in the World Cup, an excellent striker, but he can also play just about anywhere on the pitch. Left back or left midfield being his particular fortes and he would be able to fill in where needed if we have injuries or provide an attacking threat when we don't. If we don't have money to spend then I would only bring in a striker, a target man like Mario Gomez. Other than that I would bring back Ayala from loan and drop Carra and Skrtel for Ayala and Agger and give us the ability to pass the ball around from the back and spring attacks from defence with both of them having the ability to bring the ball out or play decent passes forward. Sell Johnson, if anyone will buy him, and that money could probably buy us Honda or Sanchez thinking about it. What about you mate?}

no matter what money being there are not i think gomes would be one hell of a player just as you said ed a target man that torres could play off and do what he is good at scoring in the 20 yard area for me we need two strikers. . it showed yesterday at utd ronney not up to it and berbatov stepped up.
if money was no obeject wel gomes and i think gourcuff he can play anywere across the middle for me put him on the left cole on the right stevie and merilies in the middle and do as every team does with there midfielders one goes one stays.

what you think ed {ed's note - I have never seen Gourcouff have a good game, so I can't say I would be keen on signing him myself. But I can see why you would suggest him, though I don't understand the thinking behind putting Cole wide. He is not a wide man, no pace to make his trickery work for him out wide, that is why I suggested Honda and Sanchez, both have tricks and pace.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 11:06:19

Sell johnson in jan(if we can) and bring van der wiel in. what do you think ed? {ed's note - I am not his biggest fan, would prefer to just see Kelly given a chance at right back myself.}

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 11:02:47

A group of Reds have come up with the letter below, please send it to the parties addressed, we need to show that we are serious.

Hicks must be stopped.

Dear Sirs,

If your company agrees a £280million refinancing deal with Tom Hicks to retain his share in Liverpool Football Club, then the only return that you will see on your investment is bad publicity and a severe backlash from Liverpool supporters worldwide.

As you are aware, Hicks is trying to refinance his debt to the Royal Bank of Scotland before October 6th so that he can continue his disastrous ownership of Liverpool Football Club.

There is no point in us listing the countless and well-documented offenses of the grossly destructive reign of Tom Hicks and George Gillett. The media is full of articles about them. And that is the point. No longer do we rely on the occasional heroic journalist to expose corruption within institutions we hold dear. This is a new age, an era of organized resistance at the click of a mouse.

You are facing an energized, well-informed mass of Liverpool fans from around the world. We are tapped into a constant stream of information on the ownership situation. Every day, dozens of web forums buzz with the latest news. Protest marches, newspaper ads, boycotts and billboards are organized. Every move Hicks makes is scrutinized. And every associate of his is warned.

Refinancing is our nightmare scenario. Anybody who helps Tom Hicks refinance will become our primary target.

We have a decent track record of taking on and beating those who attempt to blacken the name of Liverpool Football Club. As an example, the Boycott of the Sun Newspaper following their disgraceful coverage of the Hillsborough Disaster in 1989 is said to have cost News International an estimated £10 million a year.

If the Blackstone Group / GSO Capital Partners join forces with Tom Hicks in raping and pillaging Liverpool Football Club, then you will be making a very powerful enemy.

You have been warned.

Yours faithfully,

To: -

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20 Sep 2010 10:56:50

Most poster on here see no place for Carragher in their preferred starting 11. So what do you do with one of your most loyal and faithful servants at the club? I think the likes of Kelly and especially Wilson should get more game time.

Here is my preferred back 4 - konschesky, agger, skertl, kelly - with wislon and Carra in the waiting. Can't we make Carra the defensive coach/ player and play him in the lesser games?

I would like to see Johnston move to right wing and given freedom to attack.

Just a suggestion

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:55:00

Wel ed

just your taught if we arent took over by january window who would you like to see being bought.

and if we are took over who would you like to see.

the face man {ed's note - I think I have said a few times who I would like if money was no object, just 2 players, as I feel that is the most that should ever be bought in January, Keisuke Honda and Alexis Sanchez. They would give us what we lack, pace in the wide areas and the ability to frighten the opposition. Sanchez can play on either wing or behind the striker/s and I have seen him play up front, great on the ball and plenty of pace. Honda is the ultimate jack of all trades, as we saw in the World Cup, an excellent striker, but he can also play just about anywhere on the pitch. Left back or left midfield being his particular fortes and he would be able to fill in where needed if we have injuries or provide an attacking threat when we don't. If we don't have money to spend then I would only bring in a striker, a target man like Mario Gomez. Other than that I would bring back Ayala from loan and drop Carra and Skrtel for Ayala and Agger and give us the ability to pass the ball around from the back and spring attacks from defence with both of them having the ability to bring the ball out or play decent passes forward. Sell Johnson, if anyone will buy him, and that money could probably buy us Honda or Sanchez thinking about it. What about you mate?}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:54:43
RE:boycote to hit hicks in the pocket bulls''t

we are not giving up on LFC, but trying to force Hicks out by finaincal means.

he sees us as walking cash registers that will aid him milk the club dry. Would you really like to end up like Leeds?

They us to be a big club in Premiership. Mike Ashley took Newcastle into relegation and look at portsmouth. It can happen,

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:48:36
Carling Cup- Liverpool v Northampton, win
Premier-Liverpool v Sunderland, draw/ lost
Europa -FC Utrecht v Liverpool, win
Premier-Liverpool v Blackpool, win
Premier -Everton v Liverpool, draw/ lost

Then we will be bottom of the league. I think where going to slip up at sunderland and everton. Getting goals is a real problem.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:37:05

Can i just say to the comment made about a boycote to hit hicks in the pocket bulls''t if we do that things will be worse one thing that gets liverpool players through games is are support in the stands if were not there backing them the will crumbin my eyes we havnt been getting behid the team lately. .COME ON LADS WE MIGHT BE A SINKING SHIP BUT AS LONG AS THE NOSE IS STILL ABOVE WATER AM STILL ON BORAD. .

LET THE BOARD SORT OUT WATS HAPPENING OFF THE FIELD AND LETS SUPPORT THE BOYS ON THE FIELD. . . .

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:34:28

{ed's note - if we had more pace at the back from Wilson and Agger, then the full backs would be able to get forward without it being so dangerous for us. I still think Ngog will never be a top striker until he learns to anticipate instead of reacting to situations. But hard work is never a bad thing.}

hi Ed just read this post from yourself, and i couldnt agree more he needs be more Pro Active instead of reactive, meaning he needs to make things happen instead of expecting them to! {ed's note - there are so many times you see him expecting a defender to head the ball clear then not being able to react quickly enough when the defender misses it. It is so frustrating to watch after growing up with Ian Rush, John Aldridge and Robbie Fowler who always gambled on the defender making a mess of it or got into position to try and intercept if the defender did clear it. That forethought is something Ngog clearly lacks.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:33:46
Why oh why can't you get a fan based takeover sorted out!you must have 1 million supporters world wide, a trust fund at £10 pounds per month should be able to clear your debts in two years, in four years your transfer kitty would be MASSIVE!and you would RE-OWN your club, stop waiting for some money from people who only want personal profit, even if it takes 5 years it will still mean you and only you the fans, will own and control what you love!even some of the players would agree to help out!sponsors would love to be involved, TV rights would put you in a fantastic financial possition, so organize now or, and you know Im right, you will be walking alone.cfcmark.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:32:37
Manchester United yesterday condemned Liverpool to a 3-2 defeat, leaving the club in sixteenth place – their worst start to a season in almost two decades.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:21:19

Wel fellow fans

we need to stick by are club lets not knock them if utd were we were they would still be saying they going to win the league.

think about it

33 games left
3 points a game up for grabs
99 points all together
we have 5
99+5=104

not saying we will get all points but you can afford to lose 10 to 15 points of the 104 and normaly 80 to 90 points would win the league. .
keep the heads up

the face man

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:20:46
Keep the faith fellow lfc suppoters! im sure the board will block that parasites , proposals! !


its time to boycott LFC, remove our money and force Hicks out.

Hes earning off our backs,

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:14:32

This is all very sad. If Hicks gets his way, we just have to accept that we will take 3-5 years to challenge again, if we are lucky.
Torres/ Gerrard & Reina will leave in jan or end of the season, and how can we blame them. Good luck to them. Gerrard might return as a manager in 10 years or so.
Roy will try to steady the ship, but will eventually go, (12mths max) , and the job will go to someone else to try and rebuild from the bottem up.

If we get new owners there are no gaurantees that Torres/ Gerrard and Reina will stay anyway. So we will still need to rebuild, & it will still take time 2-4 years.
We are not the first club to not win anything for years, and we will not be the last.
We need to be patient as we have no choice. You can stop going to matches and stop buying kit, and you can moan as much as you like about the regime, players, style of play etc, but YOU will ALWAYS be a Liverpool suppporter, regardless of what happens on the pitch, that will never change and you know it.
Who else are you going to support? Everton, Tranmere, I don't think so.

FROM: VERY UNHAPPY BUT NOT DEFEATED, I AM A RED FIRST AND LAST.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:07:28

From what i have seen so far our starting line up should most definately be the following

- - - - Reina- - - - -

Kelly Skrtel Agger Konchesky

- - - - Poulsen- - - - -

- - -Gerrard- Meireles- -

Johnson- - - - -Cole- -

- - - - - Torres- - - - -

subs: Jones, Carra, Lucas, Maxi, Ngog, Babel, Shelvey

 

 

20 Sep 2010 10:04:11

20 Sep 2010 04:01:09

Hello fairweather fans.

Support your club.

If they end up in the blue square premier league. .

SUPPORT YOUR CLUB!

(54) (5)
On yeterdays show we won't have to wait long.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 09:53:49
It's not as much the result that pi* es me off yesterday, but in the manner we played. Stats show that we had more possession than Utd but we did absolutely nothing with it where as Utd looked threatening every time they had the ball. I have notice in the last few matches that we are more determined to play a passing game, even knocking the ball across the back 4 or even playing the ball back just to keep posession. My concern is that we don't have the players that look comfortable with the ball at their feet & Torres looks more isolated than ever, waiting a year & a day for a touch. We seriously lack speed up front, someone to make a run & give an option to hit. The 2 games at home to Sunderland & Blackpool are must wins, 6 points & no excuses. Then we might see a different perspective in the league. It is obviously gonna take time for our new way of playing to gel, our defence tho is a different story, it's the worst I've seen in a long time!

The Irish Rover {ed's note - have you seen anything of Ayala in his loan period at Hull? Extremely comfortable on the ball, good range of passing, likes to bring the ball out from the back when space allows him to, good timing of tackles, quick. In short, exactly what we are missing in defence this season. Our passing game needs defenders like him instead of Carra and Skrtel, much as I love Carra he is not a ball playing defender.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 09:52:40

Liverpool are very close to be taken over by none other than Tom Hicks. . What a s* t! I can't believe it? Is there any good news, ed? {ed's note - I don't believe this story for a moment, it is just a dig at Liverpool fans the entire thing. Not even Hicks is going to give his son another job at the club, just read the details and you will see it is just a wind up. If Hicks wanted to take the club over he would have it completed long ago, but it is well known he wants nothing to do with it anymore.}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 09:51:41

Why don't those yanks just f*ck off

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 09:16:17

Comrades!

From this mornings Independent:-

"Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks' 11th-hour bid to hold onto his control of the club is understood to involve him offering a minority share to the global investment firm GSO Capital Partners, a subsidiary of the Blackstone group, and substantially reducing the underlying level of debt, which he needs to refinance imminently.

The Blackstone "equity rise" would, as Hicks envisages it, see the underlying level of debt reduced to around £100m. That would mean GSO committing £180m, with co-owner George Gillett apparently on the way out. As of last night, there was no confirmation that GSO is ready to go in with Hicks, with whom it has had a working relationship in the past; how much control GSO would want at Anfield; or whether new lenders would be needed to take on the remaining £100m debt when the terms of the current loans with the Royal Bank of Scotland expire on 8 October.

Ironically, the device Hicks seems to be using to hold on at Anfield is precisely the one that managing director Christian Purslow used in his attempt to reduce the club's debt earlier this year. But when the New York-based Rhône Group came in with a £110m offer for a 40 per cent share, with a demand that it have a meaningful say in the running of the club in return for that investment, Hicks dismissed it.

If Hicks wants to borrow from another source to refinance the £237m debt, it seems he would have to offer the club as security and there appears to be no question of Liverpool's non- executive chairman Martin Broughton, Purslow or commercial director Ian Ayre sanctioning that.

Hicks believes he can drive any such action through despite the stance of other board members , who are understood to have engaged legal firm Slaughter and May to assess their options."

RED LENIN

 

 

20 Sep 2010 09:11:53

Its Monday morning, we're all sick of being back at work and disappointed with yesterdays result. However have you seen the table? We maybe 16th but we are only 3 points of City in 4th. So is it all doom and gloom?

RedDan

PS The back 4 still need sorting out. Bring in Kelly for Johnson and Agger for Srktel or Carragher

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 09:11:30

Keep the faith fellow lfc suppoters! ! im sure the board will block that parasites , proposals! !

 

 

20 Sep 2010 09:10:43

Hearing Hicks rumours make me really worried. . i almost can't sleep whole day thinking of this misserable news. I really hope god will help us by not letting LFC on Yanks hand. . not only we Malaysian Liverpool fans here hoping for this. its worldwide liverpool fans wish. . YNWA

 

 

20 Sep 2010 09:07:50

Hicks@ planning to buyout remain shares frm Gillet and planning to bring back his son to run the club. According to close source he says " he not really worried about fans backlash because his fellow american glazaer having similar problem and later things goes well quitely". Now i really hate to see this comment from Hicks. .

 

 

20 Sep 2010 09:03:38

Best post I've ever seen on here ( sorry Ed!).
Football's not about winning it's about supporting , being part of something - - that's the cake, winning is the icing & silverware is the cherry on the top! !

 

 

20 Sep 2010 08:48:45
So many of you keep saying your season is over after five games, never in my life have I heard Liverpool fans so down on there own club, even Blackpool fans are happier then you lot!I cannot see you in the CL for a long time, if ever again, I think you have to take a reality check, if you get new owners you must all agree to cange taking time, no quick fix solutions, but steady re-building, all the fans, players and new owners must agree to a long term strategy for the club, we all want success NOW!but the truth is it usualy back fires, so this time not back to basics, but back to TRADITION!get your house in order, and come back fighting.CFCMARK.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 08:45:20

As a Liverpool fan it astonishes me that fat hicks who has used and abused the Liverpool fans for so long, had to twist the knife again, which was plastered all over the papers, does he not think that we and all the liverpool players read the papers, I know it is not 100% sure that this will happen but, if it does all that I can say is "GOD HELP US ALL" with his so called friend who is going to lend him 280 million to pay back Barclays Bank and install his abusive son, he has done nothing for Liverpool apart from lie to all of us, LET'S ALL HOPE THAT THE lIVERPOOL BOARD CAN BLOCK HIS LAST HOPE OF TAKING COMPLETE CONTROL, AS FOR GILLETTE HE IS JUST SITTING ON THE BANDWAGON.
A True Liverpool fan who is very worried for the future of our beloved club.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 08:39:40

I feel that liverpool have done ok for the start of the season not many teams will get many points from eastlands and old trafford we have also played arsenal some would say three of our hardest games of our epl season what we all need to do now is get behind our team and get a few results under our belt and gain some confidence we can not control what's going on off the field with ownership but we can support our team on it remember we never walk alone always support together

 

 

20 Sep 2010 08:37:45
{ed's note - if we had more pace at the back from Wilson and Agger, then the full backs would be able to get forward without it being so dangerous for us. I still think Ngog will never be a top striker until he learns to anticipate instead of reacting to situations. But hard work is never a bad thing.}

Totally agree Ed about Ngog! There was one moment yesterday when Torres headed a ball on in the box, but Ngog only started to move once the ball was headed on instead of just taking a gamble on where it might land! He might not have scored or might only have got a corner but in the end Utd easily cleared it. He's alot better, but still a fair way to go to be any way good.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 08:30:12

Martin O'Neill is in line for a ­sensational return to football – as the next Liverpool boss.

Two of the consortiums trying to buy the Merseyside club want to take ex-Aston Villa chief O'Neill to Anfield if they are successful with proposed takeovers.

(ed. . what do you think of this news, but bearing in mind it is from the daily star)
{Editor's note - I will believe it when it happens}

 

 

20 Sep 2010 08:21:57

Morning Ed
I notice a lot of people are blaming the yanks for our recent performances. However I feel sadly its down to the players attitude and skill (the lack of it). Torres doesn't seem interested at the moment (or are we still saying he's not fit) Konchesky is average, very average and the central defence doesn't work. Yes Skrtel can put a hard tackle in but what else? Johnson? What a waste of money get Kelly in now! And Carragher a great servant but I think time had caught up with him. Roy needs to shake the squad up. We need to win the next 2 games against Sunderland and Blackpool to get some confidence back asap but I would like to see

Agger brought into the back four to replace eaither Carra or Skrtel and Kelly to replace Johnson

The midfield is ok but we need to decide who is support Torres asap. Is it Gerrard, Meireles or Cole?

Pacheco needs to be given a chance, Maxi didn't do a lot yesterday

And do we stick with a 4-2-3-1, 4-4-1-1-, or goto a 4-4-2 formation?

We all know the ownership issue needs sorting asap and that Hicks has got his people to sitrr up sh*t in the papers again so that he can hold onto LFC and scare us fans sh*tless. I know its early days in Woy anfield carerer but needs to sort out the on field issue asap!

Any throughts Ed/ Anyone?

 

 

20 Sep 2010 08:21:20
20 Sep 2010 01:59:38

Alot of the forums are talking of boycotts, as NO FANS at Anfield = NO CASH for the f* r

{Editor's Note: Is this because these fans blame the owners for another poor performance? Or is it because they didn't provide any money to the managers - oh they did, I forgot.}

Well actually Editor if you had of thought to do a bit a research then you would know that Liverpool have actually made a nett profit of around £10 million over the last 3 summers ( transferleague). So I'm asumming that wages will also be down over this period as well. Add to this that there might not be any chance of money spent in the future & no new stadium promised from 3 years ago. Do we not have a right to be aggreived? Constructive comment would be much better Editor than the silly comment you gave!

The Irish Rover

 

 

20 Sep 2010 08:08:31

After seeing all our games this season I'm sorry to say that carragher should no longer be first choice CB anymore.He's been a great servant to the club and a great talisman for us, and can still be a influence when needed.His lack of pace , his passing and his judgement is just not good enough anymore.He's made to many errors again this season, our defence sits far to deep to make up for his lack of pace and passing abilities.Roy has to look to the future and make Skirtl and Agger first choice centrebacks.

 

 

20 Sep 2010 07:20:49

Liverpool did play good agt man utd but man just got a bit of luck at the end torres played good

 

 

20 Sep 2010 07:01:07
In 08/ 09 season, the team r juz 2points bhind manure n all of sudden, they drop to 7th last year. what was wrong?xabi alonso's departure?dont thnk so.liverpool already try to push him out in order to get money to buy barry.so that's mean hes not that important.but then, when he go to real, liverpool start to fell apart.coincidence?btw, its no longer road to redemption.its road to relegation.beware.

YNWA

Mr.E

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 06:21:40

I hope this is the squad we use more frequently.

Reina
Kelly Carragher(Skrtel) Agger Konchesky
Meireles(Poulsen) Gerrard Babel/ Pacheco Cole Jovanovic
Torres

I think Liverpool played better when Gerrard played the so-called "Alonso" role against Arsenal. Play a pass to Torres, and have Cole go free. Babel or Pacheco adding pace to the right. Martin Kelly should get first-choice right back now. Johnson isn't good in defending. Why has Roy played Skrtel these past games? I think Agger is a more capable partner with Carragher.

But in Wednesday's game against Northampton, this is the game where the academy/ reserves get their chance to shine.

Jones
Darby Kelly Wilson Robinson
Spearing Shelvey
Amoo Pacheco Ince
Ecclestone

Plus give some time for Suso

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 05:57:04

I think Reira was correct LFC is a sinking ship.
But still we ll be supporting it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 01:59:38

Alot of the forums are talking of boycotts, as NO FANS at Anfield = NO CASH for the f** r

{Editor's Note: Is this because these fans blame the owners for another poor performance? Or is it because they didn't provide any money to the managers - oh they did, I forgot.}

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 01:36:37

I am sick of these yanks. As fans that love our club we MUST do something. Any ideas?

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 01:19:32
Is it ture that HICKS is now loaning money against the future unbuilt stadium (*stanley Park site)

So he can repay RBS £100m and remove them from the board. If so liverpool could be repaying Hicks handywork for years and years to come.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 00:55:55
If hicks ever gets liverpool then expect alot of fans to turn there backs on liverpool and football, reina, torres, gerrad, agger will leave the club, i myself wiil not buy any liverpool merchandice until hicks and gillett leave the club.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 00:54:08
HICKS OUT> SAVE LIVERPOOL

Are the fans getting organized against the owner?

Is their a forum

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 00:44:54

Having watched us get out played by the Mancs, it is hard to stomach that we are out of the title race after only 5 games. Some of you might be wondering where my defeatest attitude comes from! Just listening to Mr Hodgson speaking about our prospects says it all. Watching Chelski beat all those put before them, watching Arsenal out play all comers and seeing the Mancs both red and blue pull away makes me sick. I taken a reality check and I believe that our day of reckoning is upon us.

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 00:27:02

Reina
Kelly Wilson Agger Konchesky

Gerrard Meireles

Cole

Babel Pacheco

TorresEd what do you think? I'd tell the back 4 to stay back and rarely attack. Atleast then we'd be solid in defence and would rarely get caught out on a counter attack.

Ps- really starting to warm to David Ngog. At the moment he can hold the ball better than Torres and he's working his arse off which is more than can be said about his senior. We looked alright when he came on today. {ed's note - if we had more pace at the back from Wilson and Agger, then the full backs would be able to get forward without it being so dangerous for us. I still think Ngog will never be a top striker until he learns to anticipate instead of reacting to situations. But hard work is never a bad thing.}

 

 

 

 

20 Sep 2010 00:17:25

I know when I say this that alot of LFC fans will laugh, but I miss Rafa.

Oh when things were going well for LFC he could do no wrong. He turned LFC into title challengers, but with new owners at L4, any mistakes he made were amplified due to bankrupsy and ungreatfullness from Hicks and Gillet (to a lesser extent).

 

 

 

 

19 Sep 2010 23:55:12
RE: Defending

Ayala + Agger lack strength. Benitez liked his CBKs to be strong Carra and Skrtel. trading speed for strength.

Could always play Carra + Agger and look to ease carra out for Skrtel.

Your right about the deep line.

 

 

19 Sep 2010 23:50:01
Is their a Website (forum) where fans are getting organised against Hicks?

 

 

19 Sep 2010 23:46:31

Why on earth can't woy see that johnson can't defend and is better at going forward my team would be

riena gk
kelly rb
konchesky lb
agger cb
skrtel/ wilson cb
johnson rw
babel lw
gerrard cm
meireles cm
cole amc
torres str

well to play this way at least we would have a bit of pace in the wide areas and be able to stretch teams and get behind them and maybe supply balls to torres. yes we need another striker and wingers both sides but untill we got the cash then improvise johnson could be our gareth bale as if memory serves me right he joined spurs as a lb/ lwb

 

 

19 Sep 2010 23:43:25

Not really a rumour, but an observation.

Hodgson still has the same number of points as Benitez had from the same fixtures last season.

Given that we're bedding in new players and are very much a team in transition, I'll take that. Once the team/ manager are settled, and we have some easier fixtures (Arsenal, City and United in the first 5 games!) the results should start to pick up.

 

 

19 Sep 2010 23:42:59

Liverpool FC is in a very dark place at the moment. It appears every media outlet from Newspapers to Radio want to feed off the carcus. This is a time for us to be brave. I am sick of everyone blaming Benitez. Houllier says it was his team that won the Champions League - what crap! Houllier let a better side loose in Leverkeuson. In 2004-2005 we looked awful in the league but somehow won in istanbul. Benitez improved the side. Other factors played a part last season.

It is time for Hodgson to be brave both in playing style and personnel. Bring in Kelly, even Pacheco and lets have ago at sides. Hodgson needs to decide does he want to be remembered as the man who carried us through dark times or the man who could never quite cut it at a top club.

 

 

19 Sep 2010 23:35:50
Nani caused paul Konchesky all sorts of problems down that side, SAF must of hold them to keep targetin knochesky, his decesion making, positional play was poor.

 

 

19 Sep 2010 23:28:51

Boycoting matches would have minimal impact as th majoruty of rvenue is produced via TV deals with Sky, overseas channels in the Middle/ Far East etc.

19 Sep 2010 16:48:54

"FEBRUARY REVOLUTION {ed's note - I stopped buying kits etc a few years back, and I will not buy any until the club changes hands. I agree totally that they have to be hit in the pocket if they are to be forced out. Let's face it, if the club itself was not making a profit, they wouldn't be fighting so hard to keep hold of it, they would want rid and to cut their losses.}"

Events have proved that the boycott is stupid. If the club were doing better financially it would be easier to sell. {Editor's comment: How would it? If there was more money in it the selling price would go up, making it more expensive to buy.}

 

 

19 Sep 2010 23:24:09

"I have a feeling poulson might be a good rightback for us"

I have a feeling you have no clue about football.

 

 

19 Sep 2010 23:14:08

"Mr Hicks is heading for a showdown with the Liverpool board, which in June rejected a refinancing proposal from American co-owner George Gillett and took legal advice before doing so"

If they can block Gillett why can't they block Hicks?

BECAUSE HICKS IS NOT BORROWING AGAINST CLUB'S ASSETS E.G. ANFIELD AND TEAM. HICKS IS REFINANCING THE RBS LOAN ON SIMILAR TERMS WHICH MEANS THE "NO" BOYS WILL BE OUT.