Liverpool Banter Archive May 20 2013

20 May 2013 23:17:25
Apparently kolo toure will have a medical when he comes back from USA what do you think Ed any truth to this? {Ed002's Note - Don't know.}

20 May 2013 22:55:29
ed's what is your opinion on who u reckon who will replace reina thank u lfc-liquid {Ed002's Note - Please read the posts.}

20 May 2013 23:05:18
Give me Toure on a free over 10-12m Williams anyday. Toure obviously not a starter, but it's someone who's not only been around the block, but knows what winning the league is all about. No risk signing imo, as long as we get in 2 decent, youngish centre backs as well.

20 May 2013 22:45:15
When you say sales. what sort of players do you think are going to generate the sort of funds to compete for the top 4? I mean we can not hide the fact that the players we sell will be fringe cut players at the club. I hope all the transfers this summer are exclusive from the press. again we make a humilation with finalising deals after we say we want a player. so frustrating.

20 May 2013 22:37:13
Are these rumours true bout kolo I jayus hope not if he signs I give up he's past it a much better player has just retired if the ink isn't dry on the sky deal get him bk because we all need a team of carra JON96

Kolo Toure. please please no

Relax ffa he will be a back up it says in the same article that papadopoulos is our main target and alderweireld is an alternative with Digne as a possible left back

Toure papadopoulos and digne would be a very good window in regards to defence

20 May 2013 22:38:12
Looks like there will be a lot of sales in the summer to generate a healthy war chest.

Cheers

Macca

I don't suppose you have any idea who the players leaving are do you Macca?

I'd be bitterly disappointed if Henderson was sold, I think he's a great box-box type player, he's no Stevie G but he's certain decent.

Macca any clues on who'll be leaving?

I expect Reina, Skrtel, Carroll, Shelvey, Downing and Coates just off the top of my head should bring some decent money for Rodgers to add to the squad

I think the players who will be leaving will be the fringe, loan and players who the club feel wouldn't make it at LFC.

Skrtel, Coates, Flanagan, Gulacsi, Wilson (on a free), Spearing, Assaidi, Carroll and Pacheco are all probably going to leave.

From the reserves and academy, Sama, Coady, Robinson, Adorjan, Morgan, Belford, Ngoo and Roddan.

The only thing I know is that CB's from the academy will be leaving and new ones bought in.

The real AG

I hope BR, and his committee, concentrate on bringing quality rather than quantity in return though.
The Juicer

Thanks for your info Macca!

Looks like it's going to be an interesting summer boys and girls :)

The real AG

Any idea who it will be
Reina
Skertal
Downing
Carrol
Coats
Shelvey
Assaidi
I reckon that could generate about 50m-55m

bigW

20 May 2013 23:51:35
Appreciate your posts Macca

20 May 2013 23:47:53
Hey Macca,

Thanks for the Info.

Judging by what has been said it would be reasonable to assume;

Reina, Skrtel, Spearing, Carroll, Downing, Shelvey, Coates, Wilson? Flanagan? Pacheco? Ngoo?

not sure who else! Hopefully not Hendo!

If these were Replaced by signings of the ilk Rodgers has already made a top four place could be within reach. Especially because only Reina is in the 1st team.

20 May 2013 22:30:15
BR has way more points in his first than Rafa. Dalglish, houllier and hodgson did

That along with title contending goals scored, conceding less

All with half a season with only 1 striker and a 17 year old sterling behind him

Imagine a full season with studge and cou + new signings

Thank you BR

Credit where it's due

But he won nothing

Won nothing? their is no God given right for Liverpool to win cups. You think wigan or swansea are big great clubs now? I would have BR everyday of the week over any of martinez of laudrup.

20 May 2013 22:11:05
Could any of the eds do a brief description or comparison on young Sinclair sterling and Ibe if you could it would be grate to see there strong points so on so on
Would be really appreciated grate site and work guys

Sterling is smallest. He's already got kids. The others don't so he may have more leadership quailities due to his experiences of being a father. He is rumoured to like reggae music although I happen to know for a fact that disco is his favourite.

Ibe is in the middle in terms of hieght. As previously stated, he has no kids. So he differs from Sterling in that way. His favourite sweets are Jellies although he is only allowed one a day due to a strict diet.

Sinclair is the tallest. He has no kids so he is similar to Ibe in that way but differs from Sterling. He does like reggae music FACT and he has a funky haircut.

Hope this helps.

Davey Sulls

All of them are excellent young talents. We probably won't see them regularly in the first team for the next 2 year or so, though Sterling might well be the squad winger next year.

Raheem Sterling, 18, is very fast, lots of skill and is not afraid to use them! He is a hard working player too and for such a small frame, doesn't get bullied off, largely because of excellent agility. He has terrific acceleration and with good coaching, could go on to be our version of Walcott or even better. He will be primarily a winger.

Jordon Ibe, at 17 is more direct, and has a better developed body, and hence has that little bit extra natural strength. He has better speed than acceleration as opposed to Sterling, who is faster off the blocks. Not as fancy as Sterling, he could become better than Sterling and is already a better finisher.

Jerome Sinclair, I have not seen much of, but from what I have seen, he is very agile and seems to have that 'knack' for scoring. He is fast, tries his hand at dribbling when he doesn't need to in my opinion, but is the better team player.

Hope this helps.

The real AG

So an 18 y/o Sterling could have more leadership qualities because he has babies by 2 different girls? or maybe he's just another overpaid person who behaves like a rapper

20 May 2013 21:53:09
Just to add my opinion if you do not mind.

This season has been very similar to last season in my opinion, however slightly better. We've seen goals spread across the team, not just Suarez and Gerrard (although yeah, Suarez has scored a lot of our goals), we've also seen a lot of players that weren't at their best last season step up their game. I'm not sure if it's Rodgers or the players or the coaches or what, but am I the only one who thinks Downing and Henderson have been really good this year? They've really stepped up and improved their game, I understand they're no Ronaldo's but they've both provided a lot to the team this season, and I'm genuinely looking forward to see how they do next season (especially Henderson). I think they deserve credit for stepping up their game. Some of Downing's assists this year have been absolutely amazing I think, and the work rate and goals scored by Henderson have been equally as good.

I think the future looks bright. I hope we keep hold of Suarez for this season (I think he'll go after this season coming), and with the money raised from sales; this is Rodgers' big opportunity to create his squad and get us into that fourth spot. This is his chance, and we're giving him a fantastic opportunity providing FSG supply him with the money to do so.

I'm feeling really optimistic about next season and although I've always said that I didn't think we'd get top 4 this year, I think we can definitely at least challenge for it next, and I'm predicting we either get it or come very close like Tottenham did this year. Providing we get top 4 the year after that, I'll be happy.

I really hope Rodgers can take our team back to the top, we're a club that should be winning the premier league not aiming for fourth, so let's hope Rodgers is the man to do it!

Thanks, YNWA.

20 May 2013 21:47:17
Ed, or those in know.
Having never seen Papadopoulos play, I don't understand how a 21 year old could demand such a reputation.

Is he considered a great talent for his age, cheers

He is an excellent defender mate. Not the tallest, but very strong, excellent in the air, good pace and good positional sense. He never gets bullied and is an excellent leader, not afraid to have a go at his senior team mates if they are arsing around.

Probably made him look like the perfect defender there, but he reminds me of Vidic when he was his best fro Manchester United but with that calmness with which Thiago Silva plays.

In my opinion, LFC have no chance of getting him, as Ed002 points out, Man City and Chelsea have already made their interest known to Schalke 04. Plus he will be very expensive, over 15 million pounds at the very least.

The real AG

Honest have only seen him play a few matches but overall I have been highly impressed with his play for one so young, but honestly not enough to give an in depth review of the player I am afraid.

From what i've seen he's not the best on the ball in terms of distribution, but a no nonsense pure defender; mmmm, haven't we just lost someone like that?
G

20 May 2013 20:46:47
Hi ed's,
Just a name I thought worth mentioning as we are obviously going to be looking at CB's. I know of no interest, jut wondering if anyone did or if anyone thinks it would be someone we look at? Thomas Vermaelen. Can't get a game at Arsenal yet arguably one of the best CB's in premiership over last few seasons and would suit us in my opinion (ball playing centre back). Thoughts?
Andy

20 May 2013 20:27:24
Hi eds.

Any truth in the rumour that the reds are interested in Micah Richards? {Ed052's Note - no}

20 May 2013 17:59:55
Hey eds,
Is there anyone yous reckon we have a chance of getting in the window? and do you think we will improve our forward line? Do you think that borini, suarez and sturridge are enough to push for europe next year? Personally I think that sturridge has been excellent since joining and suarez (obviously) has, and I think that borini could be decent enough if he deosnt get injured? And what about the young striker Samed Yesil we bought last year? Is he ready for first team yet? I know we are primarily targeting a centre back, winger and centre mid and maybe a goalkeeper, and even a left back for enrique cover, but I would still definitely welcome a new striker. Do you think we have a chance with the likes of remy or roberto soldado? Or even dzeko if he wants to leave? Personally I think we might just be alright up front, but is there anyone we have shown serious interest in? {Ed052's Note - of course there are some players we will sign. I belive we have enouth strike power for top4, but need to improve defensively to get there. Yesil is highly rated, and needs to get a run of matches when he comes back from injury. A striker is a long way down priorities, and, if we do sign one will be a Suarez replacement or a 4th striker. We woht be signings Remy, Soldado or Dzeko.}

20 May 2013 20:21:06
i hope we buy eriksen, erikson from the left lucas gerrard next to him and coutinho the most attacking midf. with henderson allen as back up. eriksen can play in coutinho role and visa versa. gerrard can play all 4 positions. henderson can play all roles in midfield. 6 midfielders that are up to standard. we need a worldclass cb and another left back and winger. I would keep skrtl as a back up. sell cuates clearly no future at the club. sell carroll not in br plans. sell assaidi no future, ibe sterling. with the money from sales we should be able to buy a left back and eriksen. that leaves fsg to fund a cb and winger/attacker. fsg have to be fools not to spend a little extra, 4 class signings and the squad we already have we will be in the top 4 next season, cl will follow and money will be made. maybe I am crazy but I think 4 class singning we don't need to fear anyone in th pl malta

20 May 2013 20:27:24
Hi eds.

Any truth in the rumour that the reds are interested in Micah Richards?

20 May 2013 19:48:34
disappointed whenever I watch Shelvey now

Used to love it when he came on/or started because he showed so much passion, particularly last season when things weren't going our way he was the only player that seemed to make an effort

But now I don't know. He's extremely clumsy and a bit too headstrong. To me it seems like he's got complacent with himself, ever since he played for England he hasn't produced what we know he's capable of

Think he has the potential to be outstanding but unfortunately don't think he will reach it unless he gets his head into gear!

I hope we keep him and Rogers is the main man to do so what ever happens I wish him unexceptional he is quite young with talent come on get your confidence up

Not good enough I'm afraid, those who think he's the next Stevie g r way Off track.

Shelvey has potential, sometimes I think he has a attitude problem. could be me

It's unfair to compare him to Stevie G.
Yes Gerrard sets the benchmark but there have been many a good Liverpool player who weren't half the player as Gerrard.
derryred

Really hope he stays, it annoys me sometimes people slate him and yet he is still only a baby in the game, he will defiantly get better there's no doubt about that, I think a full seasons loan could do him the world of good if he is not going to get much game time next season.

Don't know what has happened to Shelvy this season, with all that potential he just seems to be treading water at the mo. Is it his head? I would go for Diame myself and maybe another loan for Jonjo as I still believe he's got the talent and still so young, which a lot of people tend to overlook.

Doesn't matter if he is young, he's got into the squad because he is, for his age, big physically. The truth of the matter is he has no technique, a poor first touch and I don't think will be anything better than a peripheral player for us. Also flies into tackles and looks like a red card waiting to happen - not the answer to our long term centre midfield solution and, if he goes, won't be a difficult void to fill.

20 May 2013 19:40:49
With the summer here and the transfer market about to go manic. What is everyone's opinion on new additions and departures?

For me I see the following happening.

Keepers.
I can't even think of a keeper to come in so I will leave this one. I wouldn't mind Reina going but if we are going to sell him to Barca why aren't we going for Sanchez instead of Tello as part of the swap?

I think in Reina we have a player Barca really want and are looking to to fill the keeper role. Barca don't want Sanchez so why not offer them 5-6 million plus Reina and see if they will accept it? Seems a win win situation to me, we get a more experienced player (who is still only 24) who can play on either wing plus up front, and they get a keeper they desperately need.

Defence.
I can see Coates certainly leaving this summer and we have just lost Carragher so that's two gone. I can see Tiago Illori being Coates' replacement and I'd like to see us sign T. Alderweireld to replace Carragher. Both seem reasonably priced and Alderweireld can play right back as well as centre back. I can also see another youngster coming in to compete with Enrique for the left back role.

Midfield.
Even though he's had a good season I will still move on Downing this summer. His improved form can only help us get a better fee than we would have last summer. Like most of us I would love to see us sign Eriksen for the left. Brilliant prospect and having two wingers in form of Sanchez and Eriksen in the side could only be good.
I could see another midfielder arrive but couldn't even guess on who it will be. It will probably depend on the fees we receive for the likes of Carroll, Downing, Pacheco, Spearing and Coates.

If we could afford another high value midfielder I would like us to test Bilboa's resolve with a cheeky 15 million bid for Munian. Still young and would provide excellent cover for the wings.

Just my preference and we all have them.

Jonesred

Alderweireld can play cb right back but he is too slow. we need a dominating cb next agger a worldbeater. kelly wisdom mclaughlin can play right back enough options there.

Holy crap! The guy who replied first must use the search function on "Alderweireld" and replies to every post mildly concerned with Alderweireld with "He is too slow".

An Alderweireld troll!

The real AG

20 May 2013 16:35:14
Hi Ed's, which newspapers/journalists are supposed to be the more reliable ones when it comes to transfers? {Ed002's Note - There is no easy answer as it changes club by club. Sometimes national paper journalists buid a relationship - sometimes provincials do better.}

Which papers are reasonably reliable for Liverpool then Ed? {Ed002's Note - For Liverpool, this page is best.}

This website is by far and away the most accurate source, I don't bother reading anything else to be honest as its 99. 9% nonsense and the 0. 01% correctly reported is usually on here days/weeks before.

P. s. The Echo is usually OK for stories but they rarely, if ever, have the inside scoop as it were.

20 May 2013 19:03:13
On Downing this season.

I'm not sure, but Coutinho has the exact same stats for 12/13 in prem league with 3 goals, 5 assists but only played 12 games where downing has played 29. but

Fill your team with Coutinho's and we'll lose in some defensive areas, it is about balance. Not sure? Good squad player? Expensive one if so.

Muller would fit in with what your saying but we couldn't and wouldn't get him

What! that's like saying, if u fill the team. of carraghers, we lose out in attck. he's an outstanding talent. have a good bavk 4 and a good midfielder who can protect aswell as 4ward. then u let coutinho express himself!
5 gold stars

Coutinho has 3 goals and 7 assists in 13 appearance this season for LFC.

The real AG

OP here. I'm not saying we don't need Coutinho, he's our most promising player in my opinion.

Just thinking about downing and do we get rid. I'm thinking maybe downing offers some defensive options so offers another dimension but we so desperately need Coutinho and another one like him as well!

Yes we should get rid of Downing asap - he is inconsistent, doesn't provide this great balance for defensive cover that your imagining and contributes so little to the team that it is painful. Plus if I see him cut inside and smash a shot 5 yards over the bar again i'm going to put me foot through the TV. He is not good enough and never has been - he was a bad, expensive purchase which we should never have even considered, Dalglish made a big mistake and one we should try to fix by getting rid.

20 May 2013 18:29:14
we must go all out to get Kyriakos Papadopoulos. looks a bargain at 15 mill. and he's got it. the winning mentality

20 May 2013 17:18:53
Fernando Muslera galatassary and uruaguay number one would be decent replacement if pepe leaves. got best goalkeeper in turkish league award 19 clean sheets in league and number 1 for his country! also another south american to settle suarez in lverpool :)

Settle Suarez in Liverpool? he's been here 2 1/2 years, i'm pretty sure he's settled

20 May 2013 16:33:45
A really good day at Anfield yesterday. Gutted to see Carragher go but need to look to the future now. For me Carra will be up there with the best defenders who as played for the club if not the best. Istanbul season is probably one of the best I have ever seen from a Liverpool player the way Carragher played that season. Nothing but respect for the legend. We still dream of a team of Carraghers.

The best? it's getting silly now. He wouldn't make the top 10 if he wasn't King of the Wools

20 May 2013 15:34:15
Hello Eds,
a Question to Ed001
how many signings do you reckon the club would be looking to make now with the possible departure of Reina, Skrtel, Carroll, Coates, Assaidi, Spearing, Shelvey etc.?

I personally reckon now we need to make atleast 5 signings.

A GK- looking likely to be Mignolet or Begovic

2 CBs - would like kyriakos papadopoulos or Lovren + a young CB (Zouma would be dream buy) but would take Illori.

A CM - a defensive midfielder or someone good at tackling. Would like Capoue but would be happy with McCarthy.

A Winger - would really like Tello

Additionally possibly a LB - Digne (dream buy) or Alex Sandro. {Ed001's Note - depends on who does leave. Until that is certain, it is impossible to say. We need a cb, cm with bite in the tackle and a lb anyway. The replace those others that go with better quality, though some could come from the youth team, rather than being bought.}

Don't we also need a winger atleast Ed. {Ed001's Note - not sure we actually need one desperately, with a few bright sparks in the kids and Suarez and Coutinho capable of playing out there.}

We need a winger badly - if coutinho or surez get injured what have we got? Downing and Assaidi? Suicidal squad depth, we need another winger whilst Sterling, Ibe et al are finding their feet - not fair on the youngsters to be potentially launched into the first team with all the pressure and expectation on their shoulders when so young and not fair on the fans to have to keep suffering Downings rank ability (in spite of his improvement) and Assaidi's abject performances. Think CM position is a less of a priority but obviously if we could strengthen it as well then that'd be good.

20 May 2013 13:02:59
Ed001 if you are around, who do you think would be good buys for the CB? Obviously we have been linked with Botia, Gardos, Zambrano, Ilori, Lovren and Papadapoulous, while the likes of Williams have been mentioned too (De Vriej and Alterweireld now unlikey to be pursued)

Based on interest and affordability, who do you see us moving for?

An answer would be much appreciated as I value your thoughts and opinions on footy in general very highly.

Thanks,

The real AG {Ed001's Note - I haven't seen anyone I really like myself as an option, but, going on what people who have seen him have told me about him, plus the fact that Sevilla are in serious monetary difficulties and need to sell, I would say Botia. I haven't seen him play much, but I am told that he likes to play from the back, rather than just welly it, which fits in with our system. I also know we have had him looked at, hence why I was asking people about him as a player. I would like to see Kelly, when fit, given a chance to impress there as well.}

Thanks Ed001. Do you see us only signing 1 CB? I think we might get in 2, one who can immediately go into the team and 1 versatile defender who could possibly play as a full-back/defensive mid, which is why we have shown interest in Gardos, Zambrano and Ilori in my opinion.

I agree we have Kelly who could do this and will most probably be used majorly as a CB next season, but Kelly and Agger are as you know very injury prone. While our medical team has done a fantastic job looking after the likes of Agger, Gerrard and Johnson this year, we surely cannot put all our trust in Kelly and Agger's well-being for the lack of a better word.

The real AG {Ed001's Note - I do think it is likely we will get 2, if we can find the right man for a good price.}

20 May 2013 14:59:36
New kit looked smart yesterday

Gazman

Forgot they were wearing it just looked the same

20 May 2013 14:25:39
West Ham have made public that they are in negotiations over Carroll. what is there to negotiate? didn't they agree the terms when he went on loan? something around a £17m fee? can you shed any light on it and also if there may be other players involed?

cheers {Ed002's Note - Done to death - try the search function.}

20 May 2013 14:00:03
This year:7th

W 16 ' D 13 ' L 9 ' 61 pts ' Scored 71 ' Conceded 43.

Last Year 8th

W 14 ' D 10 ' L 14 ' 52 pts ' Scored 47 'Conceded40.

observation-

Brendan Rodgers finishes with more points and a higher goal difference than any of Houllier, Benitez or Dalglish had in their first season.

only bad thing this term was the cup runs. but hey we had no squad this season, suso, wisdom, jonjo, sterling can win u a cup at this level.

and add to that the defensive blunders against city, disallowed goal against everton, and 2-0 lead blown up against gooners. some 8 pts.

we r just fraction short of top 4, with much limited squad compared to our rivals chevesky, spurs and gooners.

I wouldn't say we have a more limited squad than Spurs, they just had a better start to the year

Benitez didntve 50 millions 2 spend, on top he had 2 sell Owen 4 some funds. {Ed001's Note - he did not have to sell Owen, Owen forced a move despite Rafa asking him to stay.}

20 May 2013 16:46:08
i don't think we have such a thin squad. we were out of cups and I put that blame to rodgers he repeated his mistakes.

Rafa had a net spend of 25m in his first and second seasons, as that's getting on for a decade ago you also need to adjust for inflation.

20 May 2013 13:35:34
Good luck editors, 1st day of the close season and I've already seen about 5 ridiculously stupid rumours, I feel sorry for you.

Only thing I have heard is that Mignolet is a target but this isn't exactly . Hopefully we get hold of a decent left back this summer.

20 May 2013 13:28:05
hi do you think alonso could return to us this summer

20 May 2013 13:26:19
Mamgerial Merry GO round
1) Laudrup -> Chelsea
2) Ancelloti -> R. Madrid
3) Benitez -> Monaco
4) J. Morinio -> PSG
5) Martinez -> Swans
6) O'Neil -> Everton

You forgot to add Brendan Rodgers to Man City. For those who thought he was not good enough, if he aint, why then is Manchester City after him? If deal with Pellegrini fails then we better know that they are coming after our man.

20 May 2013 13:20:25
Question for Macca please, how do the other senior players feel about reina leaving? Thx in advance!
Still the best FREE site eds
Redjay

20 May 2013 13:06:03
Do any of eds see there being any interest in vermalen with carra gone {Ed002's Note - No.}

I think he'd be worth a punt too sully77, def a good ball playing centre back and would fit into BRs system easily - bit off form recently but was excellent in his first couple of seasons and think we could pick him up cheap enough

Swallybean

20 May 2013 12:16:15
Bendons 3 envelopes; downing, henderson and enrique. He publically criticised all three and didn't fancy any of them. All three have done ok in my opinion, in the second half if the season. Who does everyone think were the three? Or do you think it was all bull and there were no names in them?

13reds

20 May 2013 14:15:28
Its an old inspirational and self improvement trick. They will say "You", "Me" and "Us" in them. Meaning we only have ourselves to blame so pointing the finger is pointless.

YNWAdam

How he don't fancy them with all three starting games? I think it will be Assaidi (rumored to don't be a Rodgers' signing), Skrtel and Coates.

19 May 2013 23:13:47
Ed02 its been wrecking my brain who wil partner agger next season. i'm sure you've been tortured on this question but who do you think will partner him at Liverpool cheers. MATTYLFC {Ed002's Note - The club has been looking at a numbers oCBs as you know. I am not aware of any deals being in hand.}

20 May 2013 11:12:54
I know its probably match day fever but that Carragher lad looks like he's going to be a real steal for team sky a defender who was probably the biggest goal threat all game what a legend let's hope Brendan is working hard.

Kopping a feel

20 May 2013 10:35:51
I see BR is on the Man City radar. Very unlikely I think, but if he does go, do you think the owners might look at bringing Rafa back? He's shown his ability again this season.

Give it up man!

The real AG

I like how we play under BR so rather us stick with him and give him time lile a real fan should do

20 May 2013 10:12:57
I feel that next season the title race will be between Chelsea and Manchester City, with Arsenal not far behind. Fourth will be down to Tottenham, Manchester United, and Liverpool I feel. Can't see Moyes winning next season.

20 May 2013 12:36:33
as much as we hate utd you would be daft to write them off. Tommy Irish Red

So the champions managed by a guy who has spent 11 years in the PL and has won his "mini league" with similarly funded clubs is less likely to challenge for the title than a Chilean with a squad riven with divisions and likely to be ripped apart in the summer? Makes sense.

20 May 2013 09:43:27
Macca is spot on about Reina. He is going to Barca. Skrtel looks certain to leave. Carroll is also going. Assaidi & Spearing are pretty obvious. Glen Johnson seems like is heading to Spain this summer. Coates is still hanging in the balance. Downing's future depends on a good offer. If we get good money for him, I think Rodgers will sell him.

I hope Shelvey is unloaded this summer. Lad is a good player but his attitude is not good enough to play for us.

I don't think Johnson is going anywhere. He will probably be here for another season atleast.

The real AG

20 May 2013 09:41:51
Macca said £25m plus sales. tello may come if pepe goes. West Ham and NUFC plus Monaco now 3 way bidding for Caroll.
Assuming the above I think the budget would reach close to 40-50 M.

20 May 2013 08:39:44
Are we looking at 2 attacking midfielders
as coutinho looks brilliant there and seems his best
Position?

Yea - I was wondering: Do we need Eriksen since we already have Coutinho for the CAM position? A wide forward looks more logical

Agreed .

Couninho can burn out and sometime will be in effective. check mata. the whole cheslea has been depending on him. we need another options.
and we are talking about CL here.

20 May 2013 07:51:21
Liverpool F. C 2012-2013 Season Evaluation

Hey guys been a while since I posted so I figured I post a evaluation of Liverpool’s season of Rodgers Reign as manager.

Coaching

For me this has been Rodgers biggest asset for us. The massive disappointment of last year's over priced average players that were brought in were transformed under Rodgers. Henderson has started to for-fill his potential especially in 2013 playing in a central role and has even started to score goals. Downing went from one of the worst signings of the season to a starting XI player under Rodgers. Still hasn’t hit the heights he has at villa but has significantly improved. And without a shadow of a doubt Luis Suarez, putting aside non footballing issues has had a brilliant season from being classed as not a natural finisher to a world class player this year and could have won player of the season.

Mentality

Rodgers focuses on youth which surprisingly has been criticised by not only fans but players including Gerrard. In a lot of areas experience has cost Liverpool on and off the pitch not having another natural leader but that is the mentality of the owners and should really benefit in a few years time with suso sterling wisdom kelly all likely to become starting XI players and given the fact we have a very low average wage the future is bright.


Transfers

Ins: Fabio Borini £10,000,000
Joe Allen £15,000,000
Oussama Assaidi £2, 500,000
Daniel Sturridge £12,000,000
Philippe Coutinho £8, 500,000
Sahin

Outs: Fábio Aurélio 0
Dirk Kuyt 1m
Maxi Rodríguez 0
Alberto Aquilani £5,000,000
Craig Bellamy 0
Charlie Adam £4,000,000
Joe Cole 0
Nuri Şahin
Doni 0

I don't know the exact transfer fees so I'm sorry if they’re wrong. Rodgers lack of experience and somewhat naivety was shown in the summer transfer window desperate to get rid of Carroll and failure to capture a striker was a embarrassment so much so the owner had to explain his actions. Rodgers got rid of a lot of players we've been wanting to get of our wage bill for a while cole aquilani especially he's also developed a very young squad out with the old kuyt bellamy in with the new. His signings have done well no question Borini has been unlucky a poor start to the season filled with an injury in the middle and a decent finish to the end its hard to judge how well he will do only time will tell.
Allen started off brilliantly his form has dipped mainly due to fatigue but a good signing if a tad expensive. Assaidi young cheap and has lacked match fitness we haven’t seen much of him hopefully we will next season. Sturridge has been a great signings his selfishness is something he needs to work on but he is a striker and is exactly what we needed great signing. Finally countinho young cheap and talented to say the least hasn’t had a bad game yet could easily be a world beater one day brilliant signing.

Cup Competitions
Early exits across the board disappointing even with the priority on the league and although a few of the youngsters got to play our starting line ups were often strong and we should have gone further in all three competitions.
4th Round Fa Cup Last 32 Europa League 4th Round League Cup
League Performance

Position 7th Wins 16 Draws 13 Losses 9 Goals 71 GC 43 Points 61 A disappointing position 4th was the dream 6th the target 7th not good enough. That being said we earned 9 more points then last season and have solved last years problem of not scoring enough goals. Although were sick of hearing a transitional season that's exactly what this was Rodgers shows promise but will have to deliver next season and make a real push for top 4 to have a long term future with the club he so desires.
Conclusion
Rodgers season has been far from perfect he has made mistakes and some of his tactical decisions were somewhat baffling at the start of the season and credit to him saying that he will be a better manager next season due to the added experience. Overall our results have been disappointing but are performances good and I think long term he will be a very good appointment however a successful transfer window this year is a must for us to push on. Rodgers bought young quality players puts a focus on young and often home grown players however experience should not be overlooked if reina carragher skrtel and downing all go our average of the squad will be around 22 and they should not all be replaced by young players thanks for reading hope I didn't bore you too much!

Borini has been injured basically all season, he started the season, got injured, came back from injury and got injured again, and is just now coming back to match fitness for the first time in bis Liverpool career.
Assaidi looks like a bargaining chip for the summer and I doubt he will be here next season.
We have no idea whether it is Rodgers coaching that has changed these players fortunes although his man management seems to be brilliant.
In terms of transfers last season, Rodgers was left fuming after 'the club' loaned Carroll out and did not give Rodgers the tike or funds to get a rplacement. He did an interview stating that he would never have let Carroll go if he had known he wouldn't be able to replace him.

Anfield Andy

Great analysis not boring at all. Seems that BR has learned much this season, second half of season so much better than first. And after dare I say it a disastrous summer transfer window last year, he had a brilliant winter window signing two great players for really good fees. So I look forward to the summer window now and start of new season, really hoping BR can keep on going from strength to strength.
Cheers, Hop

Fabio Borini £10,000,000 = Bad Buy
Joe Allen £15,000,000 = Very Expensive.
Oussama Assaidi £2, 500,000 =Price is good
Daniel Sturridge £12,000,000 = Good
Philippe Coutinho £8, 500,000 = Rocking

The biggest plus for me with our new manager has to be the youngsters.
Rafa must take a share of credit for that but if you look at the youngsters who have played this year then the future may not be too bad at all.
Wisdom, Kelly, Sterling, Suso, Coutinho,
Shelvey, Henderson, Ibe, Sinclair are all under 21's while Allen, Sturridge, Borini and even Lucas and Suarez are 25 or younger.
That is the nucleus of a good young team. Who knows what they will achieve for us at this moment but I am optimistic about the future even if there is not much to be optimistic about when you look at the table.
I always felt that this season would be hard for us but in my opinion this is short term pain for long term gain.

Thanks for taking the time - a good read.

BJH YNWA

20 May 2013 04:47:55
Hi guys, being told McCarthy is Rodgers' preferred GK this summer, mignolet still a target. Eriksen is a very real possibility but Rodgers is looking at all the options first as it seems we don't value him at there asking price. Also downing is on his way out, and if an offer comes for borini he'll be going to, Rodgers is trying to put the funds together for 2/3 top signings that will take us forward.

20 May 2013 12:09:03
Was horrible yesterday against west ham and don't think he's good enough.

Bobcat

Begovic or Vorm are the safe bets. Mignolet possible and as a former outfield player his disk button with his feet is pretty good. McCarthy simply hasn't played enough games at a decent level to be considered. Begovic seems to tick the most boxes and of course Stoke planned ahead by signing Butland.

20 May 2013 01:43:03
right before a ball is kicked for next season, we are a season better with a new manager and staff and players and systems the team has played, this gives me real hope for next season, I know we are losing players but we will get new ones in and by BRs last 2 signings they could be good signings, were as chelseas, man utd, and everton and man city have all changed managers which means new players and new systems and new back staff that these team will have to get used to, so with a few good signings and a bit of luck we will be in the top 4 easy maybe higher just for the fact we will have a more settled squad

mickey b

Optimistic, a change in manage isn't going to make any of those teams suffer, especially if chelseas change is jose, he will only make them better, and pelligrini is a fantastic manager and in my opinion better than mancini so don't write teams off based on this.

20 May 2013 00:57:22
Every time I hear Andy Carroll mentioned I get all perky and think "yes £15m that we can invest in players".

its said when just a few seconds later I think "sigh, that's still a £20m loss. "

Shame really, probably the worst buy of the decade. Veron and Torres (for Chelsea) come close

SR

PS: Good finish to the season, hopefully we find more players like Coutinho in summer and we give them time to develop

Ah yes the flop torres, euro medals x 2 its flops like him we could do with

Was there a £4 million loan fee paid by west ham and did they pay all his wages while he's been there?.

But we made a 25m profit on Torres. And will make about 20m on Suarez. Transfers aren't a science, there are winners and losers. What FSG want is to stack the cards more in our favour by signing players that we have a better chance of flogging on for a profit or players that have lots of improvement in them so we get all the value on the pitch.

20 May 2013 00:16:34
If you look at Fergies success at united over the years you can count the true superstars on one hand. The players that carried him to success were all average players playing to their maximum potential (which can only be proven by their decline once they left, apart from forlan & ronaldo). Stars can always be replaced but what is required is a strong group of players who know the way the manager wants to play, who have heart and have a high workrate. Who know their place in the team is not guaranteed, and that they got to play their socks off week in and week out. That is what sets a dynasty apart from a chelsea or man city who buy immediate success, but have to overhaul the squad every few years because the team is too old. If you want long term domination, you need that squad of workers. Liverpool do not require big spending. They just need a squad of young passionate hard working just above average players, a good defence, and 1 or 2 superstars. We're not too far off. With carra, reina, gerrard and downing being the high wage earners, plenty would be soon freed up to throw into the transfer kitty. Its all unfolding very nicely.
The Pirate.

Chelsea have had a spine of Cech, Terry, Lampard and Drogba for about 8/9 years, and its only now they are all being moved on to create for a new set of players, so the idea that they overhaul the squad is a ridiculous statement, they may have had many players come in and out but since roman took over they have kept the heart of there team in tact.