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20 Jul 2017 23:31:25
Hey Eds. You're all doing great job as always. Are Liverpool one of the teams potentially being reported by PSG? Seems like something we'd do and have done in the past. Thanks in advance.
{Ed002's Note - For about the 10th time. No, it is nothing to do with Liverpool.}
21 Jul 2017 07:09:20
So it's not Liverpool then?
21 Jul 2017 07:09:32
Who's been tapping up players at PSG?
20 Jul 2017 23:23:49
After all the talk of the firm on twitter I had a look and how anyone takes them seriously baffles me and as for some of there rumours being right even a stopped clock is right twice a day so I'd just like to say to all the eds thanks for the smashing work you do and for all the great reliable and insightful info (I'm looking at you ed002) anyway rant over cheers lads.
{Ed002's Note - Thanks Farno, we all appreciate it.}
20 Jul 2017 23:21:21
Selling Coutinho would be yet another sign that LFC sells its top players to survive financially and it would also represent a monumental contrast with RBL's stance on Keita. This window which will probably end with a positive net spend shows the massive limitations of this once great club as it's run by FSG. As Ed 002 put it LFC is a laughing stock and this window is another missed opportunity.
21 Jul 2017 00:04:59
What are you talking about? As things stand we have broken our transfer record and signed a promising left back for a further 10 million as well as picking up the world cup u20 player of the tournament for a fee still to be decided, we have spent upwards of 50 million and what have we brought in thru sales?
Also who cares if we ended with a positive net spend, if we play are cards right and get rid of a few more players like Stewart for good fees like we have with him then great! There's no pleasing some people, we have been after players with massive price tags and as far as I can see have been offering more than fair amounts but there's nothing u can do if the club's don't want to sell just like there's nothing Barcelona could do if we said we weren't selling coutinho which is what u want us to do yet your not happy with rbl doing the same over Keita? Absolutely ridiculous comments on fsg.
21 Jul 2017 00:29:59
Providing manes knee is good.
Mane firmino and salah. Is probably going to be the best attack in the league.
Midfield will have someone added.
Hendo wij and keita
Defence two added.
Robertson vvd matip/ Lovren clyne/ TAA/ Milner
Karius/ ward/ migs
The goals we lose from cou, 15. Should hopefully be replicated by salah.
Keita should add most of the assists.
We should be fine. What we potentially lose is the 80min top corner screamers and a scortching free kick.
What we will have done though is spent wisely
Just imagine selling cou and getting something like.
Pickford, Keane, klassen and Sandro. I mean I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Actually there is one haha.
21 Jul 2017 01:44:55
Why don't you wait until something actually happens before you throw your toys out of the pram!
21 Jul 2017 06:34:07
Spidermane, you may be joking but Everton have bought well. They will be a threat this season.
21 Jul 2017 07:10:34
I fancy Everton in Europe.
21 Jul 2017 11:56:09
Spider, we already did "an Everton" when BR squandered the Suarez money on Balotelli, Lambert and well, you know the rest. Seriously on the Everton tip, we will see what happens with them cos right now, there are no goals in that team and Pickford is an upgrade on Joel and Stekklenberg but again, the bar is non-existent on the GK front.
20 Jul 2017 23:14:51
£70-75 million for a player is criminal, the liverpool team i start supporting in 86 would hammer todays team. and most of them are in their 60s.
21 Jul 2017 01:32:04
Move with the times or we'll be left behind.
20 Jul 2017 22:37:33
Barca £75 million for the little Magician, surely with the stupid money getting mentioned £100mil minimum.
20 Jul 2017 23:55:37
And what would you do with £100 mill mate? Buy Lukaku?
20 Jul 2017 21:54:13
Hi Eds n Reds
Sky Sports Germany have confirmed a 3rd bid of around £80m has been submitted. any of the Eds heard this. source LFC CUMBRIA via FB
atlfc70.
20 Jul 2017 23:53:36
Doesn't matter if we did, he ain't signing.
20 Jul 2017 21:47:28
Sky Germany reporting we have submitted an 80 milion euro bid for Keita 🙈 any Eds confirm?
{Ed002's Note - I have no idea sorry.}
20 Jul 2017 21:58:01
Thanks for the swift reply Ed 👍.
20 Jul 2017 21:37:57
Thanks for the reply Ed002 much appreciated.
20 Jul 2017 21:18:30
ACON to take place in June / July form 2019. Great news as we won't lose Mane and Salah in January.
20 Jul 2017 22:47:19
No excuse if it goes wrong in January 2019 then.
20 Jul 2017 23:44:28
Yeah it knocked us big time in January, if it wasn't for that we'd of been well up there.
20 Jul 2017 21:01:37
Hi eds with Liverpool apparently bidding up to 70 million for keita and it looking like we will not be getting him does this leave us in a position when we go to negotiate alternative targets clubs will try to get as much money as they can out of us.
{Ed002's Note - No.}
20 Jul 2017 20:54:50
With Keita looking dead and buried Eds, any prospect of a bid for Goretzka from us? He looked very impressive for Germany in the Confederations Cup and would certainly add to our midfield.
Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - RTP.}
20 Jul 2017 20:20:19
I just wonder how far Liverpool are willing to take the Keita situation. RBL did say that not even a three figure amount will want to make them sell.
So what is the point by upping the offer when no amount is going to be enough to change their minds. RBL do not need the money and want to keep their prized asset.
The club wasting it's time chasing something which ain't going to be caught.
20 Jul 2017 21:01:47
I heard a strange rumour I thought I'd share. Which is that RBL want to have the record transfer for a player in Bundersligue, and they had expected the last offer to reach that. However due to exchange rates it didn't break the record so they rejected it. The rumour went on to say that RBL see having the record transfer as a global sales advantage for their brand.
Anyway make of it what you will I'm just passing on what i seen.
20 Jul 2017 21:23:15
why are they not looking into a keeper?
20 Jul 2017 20:42:24
BBC confirming AFCON will now be played in a June and July.
Great news for us in regards Salah and Mane. No more excuses :)
20 Jul 2017 21:20:58
Completely agree. Of course major international tournaments should be worked around the needs of European leagues.
20 Jul 2017 20:20:19
I just wonder how far Liverpool are willing to take the Keita situation. RBL did say that not even a three figure amount will want to make them sell.
So what is the point by upping the offer when no amount is going to be enough to change their minds. RBL do not need the money and want to keep their prized asset.
The club wasting it's time chasing something which ain't going to be caught.
20 Jul 2017 23:31:28
Are you 100% sure this deal wouldn't happen?
20 Jul 2017 23:42:08
His name needs to start been censored now. Never heard so much about one player in my whole entire life.
21 Jul 2017 06:30:46
They rejected over £60million.
I doubt 3 figures would work, you mean 9 figures.
20 Jul 2017 19:30:45
Keep it up studge
Great to see him working hard and having fun.
21 Jul 2017 01:58:14
He was even tracking back and pressing.
Hopefully he'll nail it this year.
Its tough on the fans but it must be rough enough on him hearing about being finished etc.
{Ed001's Note - he has always tracked back, but never been given credit for it. I have heard the commentators call him every name from Suarez to Clyne over the course of his time at Liverpool, as they haven't realised it is him who has chased back 60 yards to close down a player in our own full back area.}
20 Jul 2017 18:47:48
Monaco accused clubs of making illigal approaches for mbappe. Familiar.
{Ed002's Note - But it is nothing to do with Liverpool.}
20 Jul 2017 18:17:25
I see Michael Owen has come out and said ketia deal nearly done wat does he no its obvious he don't read the sites and paperspca and what rbl are saying that he's going nowhere. Mr Owen will be saying we are going to sign vvd next.
20 Jul 2017 18:29:18
The Michael Owen who has official role as an Ambassador for the club?
Probably knows more than me or you Marv.
20 Jul 2017 18:38:56
Has he got a mate called Alan from Barnet?
20 Jul 2017 18:46:05
Last thing we need now is ex players, especially one that somehow has an ambassadorial role at the club coming out and saying were close to this and that.
20 Jul 2017 18:44:02
Who is Micheal Owen? Hope he's right but never heard of him!?!
20 Jul 2017 18:57:11
Brilliant Em 😂👏🏽.
20 Jul 2017 19:07:13
Welsh egg-chaser.
20 Jul 2017 19:43:49
Echo reports today LFC beginning to look at Keita alternatives.
20 Jul 2017 19:53:32
Bit disrespectful to a player who was once loved by the kop and was very successful at the club.
Short memories ey.
20 Jul 2017 20:41:37
But was always looking for the next big move and ripping off the youths in very hi stakes card games. Yes i agree was an absolute idol of the club at one time.
20 Jul 2017 23:48:53
And refers to United as us and says the best moment of his career was winning the league with United when he played about 3.5 games that season, not winning the treble or European player of the year with liverpool. he can do one.
21 Jul 2017 02:03:01
He sits gloriously in the list of Fergies Bitches.
What he did when he signed for them was nasty.
20 Jul 2017 17:10:23
Ed002- seen you refer to RBL identify two critical issues to Keita's reps. What are they? As I cannot find them on the search function.
{Ed002's Note - I am not opening thios up again.}
20 Jul 2017 17:08:04
Ed02
Question, you keep saying about Klopp using the press to unsettle players?
Any evidence of that at all?
The press seem to know who other clubs are after as well, have them clubs done the same?
Struggling to buy into what you are saying mate.
{Ed002's Note - Yes, Klopp briefed some members of the press aboiut for players in April - Sessegson, Brandt, Keita and van Dyke - with the intenstion is unsettling the players. This has all been done to death.}
20 Jul 2017 17:58:50
Well it didn't work anyway did it 😂😂
How many of those have we signed?
{Ed002's Note - That is not the point.}
20 Jul 2017 18:12:17
Regardless of whether they or not, it is illegal and we will get the book thrown at us if we do it again.
20 Jul 2017 18:17:01
See managers like Redknapp do that all the time. Also see Players like me Neymar do the same, Coutiniho in particular- it's swings n roundabouts.
Don't get the witch hunt for Klopp tbh.
20 Jul 2017 18:32:46
I agree with Max here, many managers sit in a press conference and say
'If Ronaldo was available we would love to have him'
'I think Mbappe is a very talented player that would fit into any team'
Klopp is far from alone in pushing the boundaries to make moves happen. Monaco have said as much today about teams approaching Mbappe. Klopp got burnt publicly is the only difference.
20 Jul 2017 18:45:38
I don't think Klopp told the press which players he wanted in April.
{Ed002's Note - Yes he did in a briefing to a number of folks from the press who are supportive of Liverpool.}
20 Jul 2017 18:47:55
There's a difference between saying in a press conference that you admire a player and briefing the press in private to release a story from an "anonymous source" at the club to say you're interested in a player.
One is honest, if not necessarily appropriate, the other isn't.
When you add it to meeting players illegally and discussing contract provisions and their role in the team with them before approaching their club, it's kind of a garbage thing to do.
Does that mean I want Klopp sacked? Or burned at the stake? No it most certainly doesn't. Not even close. I just want him to stop tapping players up and trying to unsettle them via the media. I get no one's an angel in football, but that doesn't mean we should unconcerned with how our club and staff behave.
And considering we have a partial transfer ban and other complaints made about us, we're clearly doing something that isn't being done by everyone.
{Ed002's Note - Right. It was a deliberate and unprofessional attempt by Klopp to unsettle players of another club - who he then made illegal approaches to.}
20 Jul 2017 18:45:38
I don't think Klopp told the press which players he wanted in April.
{Ed002's Note - Yes he did
20 Jul 2017 23:47:37
Klopp 's the man! Jose the very unspecial one - he's the unsavoury type of character that really ought rub folk up the wrong way. Well he does - those with intelligence, scruples and without the devil in them!
20 Jul 2017 16:54:26
I hadn't even heard of Naby Keita before this transfer window opened and now I'm gutted as it look like we're going to miss out 😢.
20 Jul 2017 17:56:41
Klopp missed out on his first choice LB, CB and LW. Can't see him missing out on his first choice midfielder.
If it's not Keita then we finish our business with another positive net spend and 3 signings!
20 Jul 2017 16:42:52
I really hope Klipperty hasn't been tapping MmmmBop. 😩.
20 Jul 2017 16:58:58
He looks like a Hanson fan! That song is older than Mbappe!
20 Jul 2017 17:54:57
Seems to be Man City and PSG but you never know.
20 Jul 2017 17:57:03
Looks like it's Man City and PSG that Monaco are complaining to FIFA about. Thankfully.
20 Jul 2017 16:38:49
Eds, Monaco have publicly accused several clubs of illegal meeting with Mpabbe, I just wanted to know if this was anything to do with Liverpool? Have we gone out of our way to approach another player without permission?
Would it be more appropriate to ask on the European pages?
{Ed002's Note - Nothing to do with Liverpool.}
20 Jul 2017 16:58:31
Looks like Man City and psg mate.
20 Jul 2017 17:30:10
lol.
Wow.
There is actually something underhand going on that we're not involved in?
We are losing our touch! (tap)
20 Jul 2017 17:58:50
I've never been so pleased to see the words 'nothing to do with Liverpool'!
20 Jul 2017 18:16:05
All clubs will do this some way or another and especially the big clubs.
20 Jul 2017 19:55:01
Oh we're the shame of the world. Told you everyone was at it. Liverpool are no different.
20 Jul 2017 23:32:58
supermane - liverpool, man city and psg are not every club mate.
20 Jul 2017 16:29:40
Hi Ed's
Just seen the news about Monaco reporting clubs for alleged 'tapping up' of Mbappe
Wandered if you were aware of which clubs they have accused and whether LFC are involved again?
If so then it is truly embarrassing for all involved.
{Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Liverpool.}
20 Jul 2017 18:14:25
Thank heavens, Ed.
20 Jul 2017 16:27:17
Eds, Just seen on Sky Sports that Monaco have contacted Fifa over some of Europes top clubs trying to tap up Mbappe. Are we one of those clubs? Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool are not one.}
20 Jul 2017 17:58:59
Ed002's Note - No, Liverpool are not one. YET
fixed for you Ed, it'll only be a matter of time until we get brought into it xD.
{Ed002's Note - I can say with certainty that this has nothing to do with Liverpool whatsoever.}
20 Jul 2017 16:24:27
I find it strange we are the only club really chasing Naby Keita. He is a top player and I am surprised more clubs are not bidding for his signature considering what he will be worth in the future. Hopefully we get him.
On a side note, I read something about AFCON moving to the summer which can only be good news for us!
20 Jul 2017 16:39:17
Ed002 has said there has been interest from several other clubs for Keita.
20 Jul 2017 16:42:06
Probably because they don't want to sell.
20 Jul 2017 16:52:11
Ed002 has said others are interested but not at the price we are willing to pay.
20 Jul 2017 16:53:39
The other clubs who showed interest was told he is not for sale. LFC continue to struggle to understand that concept.
20 Jul 2017 16:59:42
Ag every player has a price even to a billionaire.
20 Jul 2017 17:16:16
Every player is for sale ag.
20 Jul 2017 17:38:29
Utd and city enquired but his only interest is liverpool.
20 Jul 2017 18:16:01
Spot on, EG. LFC are barking up the wrong tree and looks like we can't take a hint.
20 Jul 2017 19:54:29
We will see Davey. Expect to see VVD and Keita by August then?
20 Jul 2017 15:33:40
Hey Eds, this Keita and Van Dijk saga are on going. Have Liverpool started to make contact with other clubs for alternatives and if so can you share who is or who do you think the club should look at?
{Ed002's Note - RTP.}
20 Jul 2017 15:31:39
£7.5m for Kevin Stewart. That's a great bit of business if you ask me. Good luck to him but he was never going to break through into the first team.
20 Jul 2017 16:44:02
Good move for him, hopefully he will get an entire season of first team football under him and then who knows!
20 Jul 2017 14:25:54
Despite doubts that we would get either VVD or Keita, i remember the Mane and Gine were not Klopp's first choice and they made good. It is a team need not a need for individuals.
20 Jul 2017 15:13:08
i really don't understand this situation we must have some encouragement from the clubs or surely we have moved on by now.
Are Southampton and RBL just talking the price up or trying to please their fans.
Ask them how much they want offer what we think is value and prepare to pay if not move on.
{Ed002's Note - They don't want to sell.}
20 Jul 2017 15:18:56
I will wait to see who the alternatives are to VVD and Keita. But no doubt we could do with strong individual players to improve the team. We don't need anymore squad fillers.
20 Jul 2017 15:26:22
I don't get why as fans we can't clearly see both clubs don't want to sell. Ed002 has explained this and the press has reported our rejected bids. We have offered way more than other clubs, increasing our offers is very unlikely to change that.
Only thing that could change things is if the players put transfer requests in which is also highly unlikely.
I got a feeling after Robertson we could be done till January or next summer.
20 Jul 2017 16:10:30
Yeah but our first targets where zielinski and jo Mario.
Mane and wij where similar if not better quality.
This time where talking about a potential world class pair. Who anyone else will be a pure step down from.
Name some players attainable who are on oar with them two. Who would offer the same.
20 Jul 2017 16:11:59
Trouble is WE can see it but Liverpool can't so there must be something the club is hearing or why we are persisting with higher bids.
{Ed002's Note - The club tapped up the player after using the press to unsettle him. They will try to force the situation but have now been very clear to stress they did not meet with his representatives in Hong Kong - as they will be aware of the repercussions of that now.}
20 Jul 2017 16:27:36
When RBL says it does not want to sell at any price, then the only possible encouragement can come is from the player himself. If you talk to him first (notice I did not use the "t****up" word), offer him a higher salary, grandiose plans and titles, then it's obvious he's going to be all for it.
I don't see the sense in spending so much and going to so much trouble for a talented player who will offer probably only marginal improvement. My feeling is that our midfield is underrated by most people here. But trust me, Keita is not going to reduce our goals allowed from the usual 40-50 if there is no change in tactics and setup, which is where the real weakness lies. And given that this is a rumours/ transfers page, almost everyone is obsessed with the idea of buying and selling, no matter what the costs and consequences are.
20 Jul 2017 16:45:00
I take it they did meet in HK?
{Ed002's Note - Not as far as I know and I explained at the start of the week RBL made clear two critical issues to his representative.}
20 Jul 2017 16:51:13
I get what you are saying Clee Red. Personally I don't believe the club are hearing any different. The statement from the owner of Leipzig and other key figures at that club have made it clear there stance. I think it is simply the case the club wants the player and are going about whatever means possible to do it.
Sadly some of those 'tactics' are very underhand and considered tapping up. It's a shame because we would of probably got the deal over the line by now if we just declared our interest to the club privately and stated we are willing to spend big i. e £70m+. Instead we try to unsettle the player (using unethical and illegal actions) and in hope of getting a cheap deal.
I am not hating on anything in particular but it is just fact from what we have been told countless times.
20 Jul 2017 20:31:27
Sorry ed what would the repercussions be if we did meet with his representatives?
{Ed002's Note - Potentially serious, hence the club distancinging itself from the matter.}
20 Jul 2017 20:43:00
Ok mate fair enough. I get the picture I think.
20 Jul 2017 14:24:43
Ed, why can right footed players play left full ( Carra Maldini Irwin Milner) and no left footed ones van play right full? I can't think of one?!
{Ed001's Note - they can, but left footed players are much rarer, so there is little need for them to move to the right, while there is usually a shortage of quality left footers.}
20 Jul 2017 15:44:59
I always thought that Glen Johnson had his best games at left back.
20 Jul 2017 16:25:29
Irwin is left footed.
{Ed001's Note - Irwin was right footed.}
20 Jul 2017 17:14:11
A well known and successful manager, the late Tomislav Ivic once said, "If a right footer plays LB, he automatically loses 30% of his capabilities as an effective FB". That may not always be true as some FB's can really make it work but most of the time, it is.
20 Jul 2017 21:34:31
Trying to imagine what Clyne with 30% less capability would be like.
20 Jul 2017 18:15:16
Makes sense Ed. Cheers for reply. Irwin definitely was right footed. He was like myself. had a good left foot and a great right one. HA.
{Ed001's Note - he was the one Man Utd player of the time I actually liked, was always a genuinely nice guy off the pitch and gave his all on the pitch, but was a right footer. Took penalties brilliantly too.}
20 Jul 2017 14:19:11
Why I think we will sign Keita:
1. We are not looking at any other alternatives nor Klopp is interested in any other player
2. The club wouldn't want to look stupid infront the fans and world afterr missing out on a player who they have been chasing all summer
3. Our transfer budget so far has been moderate compared to other clubs
4. We have signed a LB for a very low transfer fee
5. We are not in for a wholesale changes to the first team
6. There is money which is evident by our two failed bids.
7. At some point RBL will give up and MONEY will start talking.
8. Klopp has sacrificed other targets for only two players ( Keita and VVD )
9. The club can't go for other choices ( as most of them would be priced out anyways )
10. We are fully aware we will never get him if not this summer
11. This signing would guarantee a top 3 finish for many more years to come something for which you are actually spending!
12. He might not be a need but he is a special player and you always make room for special players!
Thanks.
20 Jul 2017 14:29:46
Guarantee a top 3 finish? How did you come to that conclusion?! Plus point 1 says we are not looking nor have any interest in other players yet you then say in point 8 we have sacrificed other targets?
20 Jul 2017 14:46:46
Your speaking out your Ding Dong, Harry.
20 Jul 2017 14:47:06
1. I thought Klopp said this week that he does have a plan B for everything. I would assume that was other players.
2. We looked pretty stupid with our Van Dijk efforts
3. You mean to imply we have some money
4. You mean to imply we have some money
5. You mean to imply we have some money
6. We all know about the bids. Obviously we have some money
7. Sadly RBL also have some money. It'S n0t certain who will give in first.
8. That's nice, who were they?
9. You're making this up now. Our scouting might not be good but I'm sure it's not that bad.
10. More secret information. If he's available to some clubs fro 48 mill next year, I think we might still have a chance with a 66mill offer.
11. It would help but it definitely wouldn't guarantee, even if we put it in his contract.
12. If we don't need him, we might give up before RBL. We managed not to sign Michael Laudrup after agreeing everything with him. He was very special. We did as badly with Dani Alves.
As far as I can tell, you are saying we will definitely sign him because he's really good and we are willing to spend a lot of money. What's new.
I think we might sign him but I can only find 2 reasons why and a couple why not.
20 Jul 2017 14:51:22
Stuie,
Other targets for positions such as RB and LB (Mendy or any High end profiles, Kept Sturridge, avoided any big money striker signing). With this we have saved some good money plus we will sell fringe players to recoup some good cash. Chelsea signed Moratta for £60 mill while we signed 3 players for less than £50 million!
20 Jul 2017 14:48:34
2. The club have done nothing but make itself look stupid all summer, why stop no one?
4. Not being other left backs had nothing to do with Keith
5. 4 new first teamers is a pretty significant change.
7. Wishful thinking.
8. Klopp has sacrificed nothing, he's just failed to get his o other targets.
9. £70m for keita is fine but everyone else is too expensive?
11. There are no guarantees.
12. Buying a player you don't need instead of a player you do is stupid no matter how special he is.
20 Jul 2017 14:48:54
Few things,
1) the left back you are signing will have no relevance to Keita
2) signing one player will not "guarentee" top three for years to come
3) you say you'll be priced out of alternatives yet he would cost about £70m
4) you are "fully aware" you wouldn't be able to sign him if not this summer. Why? Why not next summer?
Really don't understand this obsession with him. I think your ok in midfield to be honest. He's has one good season. If I was a Liverpool fan I'd rather spend £70m on a top keeper and two top full backs.
20 Jul 2017 14:51:45
Point 10 is a little odd too.
20 Jul 2017 14:55:20
All conjecture Harry.
All the above points are moot if RBL decide not to sell.
Guarantee a top 3 finish? That's an outrageous statement. Pogba didn't deliver that for Utd did he? Sanchez couldn't for arsenal.
20 Jul 2017 14:57:24
I don't think the reason we didn't sign Mendy was because we sacrificed it for Keita. Plus, i am unsure if you're meaning signing 3 players for £50m is a good or bad thing?
20 Jul 2017 16:10:44
Stue,
It's a great thing coz we haven't spend like lions! We have the money and that is one strong reason I believe we will eventually pull this deal! We are just midway into our business, I am sure we are not done yet! The plan is clear and it is Keita and VVD. Now the club can ask Klopp to change his stance and consider alternatives but I highly doubt they would do it.
How many honestly thought we would even put in an offer in the excess of £50 mill? The club did twice!
Liverpool can't spend more than £50 mill on one player all have become yesterday's joke!
I strongly belive RBL will give up! Pressure will start rolling from the player, his agent and maybe his family.
It was not a walk in the park for UTD to sign Pogba. They had multiple bids rejected! They muscled out all three lf Barca, Real and PSG! Money talks! And RBL won't be an exemption!
My view.
20 Jul 2017 17:23:54
Harry, your initial post is all conjecture and saying NK is the best midfielder in the whole of Europe is just your opinion, which is not fact. "Guaranteed top 3 finish"? Now, that is just funny but Again, your opinion.
IMO, RBL will not sell to us regardless of what offer would put in as they have said even before last season ended, that none of their players will be sold and singled out PL clubs specifically, need not bother. They are following through with that declaration as we speak. Will they relent and give up? we shall see but I just don't see it.
20 Jul 2017 18:52:28
We may well get Keita and VVD.
I can guarantee you that if we do, it will be for NONE of the reasons harry has mentioned!
20 Jul 2017 14:08:33
Dear Ed01 as macca said i believe him we will sign kieta and vvd but i wanna hear your views do u think there is a gud possibilty of both or one of them signing before the start kf new season
Thanks and appreciate your hardwork.
{Ed001's Note - yes.}
20 Jul 2017 14:21:25
I am 100% confident we will sign both! The club can't be stupid infront of the whole world being empty handed end of the window!
20 Jul 2017 14:43:53
Nkdd, unfortunately your 100% confidence by no means increases mine.
20 Jul 2017 15:27:25
Witch one ed? Bet these 2 names are doing your head they are mine.
{Ed001's Note - yes they are and I never said one.}
20 Jul 2017 16:04:13
Ha ha u still believe both then. its just a nightmare what u eds must be taking to get through this heavens nos.
20 Jul 2017 16:00:55
We already look stupid infront of the whole world Harry for tapping them up. But yet you still believe we'll sign them? not going to happen.
20 Jul 2017 13:56:40
70+ mil for vvd is silly look at lovren he looked as good as at Southampton and now not good enough it's a daft amount for a good defender but he's no maldini is he.
20 Jul 2017 14:08:00
Maldini would struggle in our system. No proper Full backs! No proper GK And no out and out stopper. Moreover playing a very high line you are always in the danger or running backwards to chase a striker.
VVD excels in the areas that cost us big points. He is physically a monster and would beat anyone in air. Excellent on the ball as his passing is top notch. He has terrific pace to chase back!
Do you have a very good defender who would fit into our all out attack philosophy?
20 Jul 2017 14:13:14
Dont worry about the price. he's a good quality centre back.
20 Jul 2017 14:19:46
Its crazy money for sure.
This is the stage where Brendan Rodgers lost the plot. He had just been given a new deal and was thought to be untouchable? He spent 100s of millions and players that actually made the team worse.
Klopp has identified these players and rightly or wrongly the club are trying to back the manager even by sanctioning underhand methods of approach.
I'd say the general feeling on here is that rhe targeted players are of a really high quality but ths price is dictated by the Market.
But these are Klopps players and he will be judged a lot more harshly this year as he has had virtually the choice of the best in the world.
20 Jul 2017 14:16:53
So your saying don't sign VVD because of Lovren, absolute rubbish be they are completely different players.
20 Jul 2017 14:45:53
Brendan got it wrong coz he had absolutely no
Idea how to use his own players. His choices were absolutely duds! To replace Planet's best striker with Lambert and Balotelli tells you the story!
Why Klopp wouldn't do a Brendan
1. We are chasing Naby Kieta who is the best CM in Europe without a shadow of doubt!
2. We don't need 10 signings compared to what Brendan tried in his second year
3. We have a core team and we are just adding players into the group without disrupting the entire rhythm.
4. The players we are looking would fit in like a nice glue.
5. Our general style of play remains the same compared to what Brendan decided to change it completely.
6. We are not buying Balotelli not Benteke
7. And most importantly Klopp is light years ahead of Brendan!
20 Jul 2017 15:43:36
I knew who was responsible for that last post soon as I read point one! That's a very bold statement to make, even from you Harry. End of last season you were drooling over PSG's midfield, then Juve's then Monaco's each of them teams had the best midfield at different times according to your crazy flippant opinion! Now Keita is the best midfield player in Europe! There's some very good midfield players out there mind. Have you seen enough of him to make that call?
20 Jul 2017 17:29:01
Welsh, you forgot Harry's other fav players like Carzola, David Silva and of course, the great Moussa Dembele of Spurs who got man-handled by a certain Gini Wijnaldum last season at Anfield. And no single player, will get us top 3 on his own, Harry. That simply won't happen.
However, I do agree with Harry's perfectly accurate post about his comparison between BR and Klopp. BR is and will never be in JK's league regardless of how many "paper" trophies he wins and "undefeated" seasons he has at the equivalent of Europe's Sunday League.
20 Jul 2017 13:46:25
Eds there is a rumor that vvd has handed in a transfer request.? I've said on the forum i don't think we have a chance getting him what's your take on it eds now? Also the keita rumors should die down now I hope as clearly he's going nowhere.
{Ed002's Note - Liverpool want van Dijk - we know that.}
20 Jul 2017 13:08:06
7.5 million for Stewart not bad best of luck to the boy on his move to Hull!
20 Jul 2017 13:36:34
Not bad at all, he reminds me of jay spearing.
20 Jul 2017 14:01:17
Good luck to him.
20 Jul 2017 14:05:53
I think he was better than Jay Spearing, he could pass a ball and was a stronger proposition in midfield.
20 Jul 2017 12:21:39
So let's say we won't get Keita this summer, and they will be more willing to sell next summer, is it possible for the two teams to reach an agreement this summer for Liverpool to have 1st refusal on the player when they decide to sell?
{Ed002's Note - No, not without modifying his contract - another club has already raised that issue with RBL.]
20 Jul 2017 13:40:21
Thanks man.
20 Jul 2017 14:02:23
There would be many more clubs willing to splash monkey on the player next summer. We stand no chance!
20 Jul 2017 14:23:44
To splash the monkey? Some clubs really will do anything to get their player. Must be Man United.
20 Jul 2017 13:19:20
I just hope we have not left it to late to chase other targets after Keita. It clearly a position Klopp wants to add to so has to be other targets. Great fun this transfer window again isn't it.
20 Jul 2017 13:35:38
Is there still interest in the ox? Or is that dead now.
20 Jul 2017 13:45:21
There's more than 40 days left. How is it that too late? That's more than the entirety of the winter transfer window.
20 Jul 2017 14:02:47
We need to just move on from this saga as we are getting nowhere and RBL for the umpteenth time, are not going to deal and won't sell.
20 Jul 2017 14:06:15
I don't understand how anyone could logically think that Ox would be a reasonable alternative to Keita? Ox simply isn't and never will be a centre midfielder.
20 Jul 2017 15:35:43
Chelsea just brought Morata in and it took all of a few days. We as Liverpool fans should know there is always time. Remember Andy Carroll.
20 Jul 2017 12:36:02
Regardless of other rumoured transfers not coming through I've got high hopes for salah this seaso, especially since I can't actually remember the last time we've had two out and out wingers to have on the pitch at the same time and properly spread the play with pace and width.
I think wingers are a dying breed, everyone now is a number 10 playing slightly to the left or the right of a midfield trio.
Who was the last winger or winger pairing that you all thought were great players? I'm struggling to think of any, used to think reira could show good glimpses for the spell he was here and at least he offered width and could cross a ball! Think he played a couple of seasons with benayoun who altho again was more of a number 10 I was such a fan of his!
Help me out here guys we must have had some good wingers over the last 10 years or am I just drawing a blank?!
20 Jul 2017 12:53:04
I rated Maxi Rodriguez fairly highly, certainly did the job pretty well for a few years, can't think of many others.
20 Jul 2017 13:12:40
The last time Liverpool had two out and out wide players to play either side of a striker, we won the league! Never mind SAS. It was all about BAB. I have only seen highlights of Barnes, Aldo and Beardo but to say they were the best in English football history is probably an understatement.
20 Jul 2017 13:13:23
Kuyt always played right wing, althrough wasn't an orthodox one - for me one of the most composed players we have ever had. He would fit in well with klopp today!
20 Jul 2017 13:18:38
The mighty Mark Gonzales springs to mind. What was the quote, 'The greatest Chilean player this generation'?
20 Jul 2017 13:21:43
Duff and robben at Chelsea.
20 Jul 2017 13:31:15
I always thought that Mark Gonzalez was an excellent player. But he suffered so many horrific injuries at a young age he was never going to make it to the very top level.
20 Jul 2017 13:40:42
Wasnt he South African.
20 Jul 2017 13:57:58
More like we never bought wingers and signed too many ACM's and played them on the flanks with no Success! I remember a poster called Bobarton on the site who was a big time fan of playing such midfielders on the flanks.
Chelsea has been playing with wingers from a decade while UTD dominated the league playing two out and out wingers.
Pace is always a decent weapon if you know how to use it!
20 Jul 2017 14:10:35
Jesus that brings back memories, I used to have Gonzalez number 11 on the back of that Adidas kit lol.
20 Jul 2017 14:15:13
I'm really looking forward to two great and very quick wingers, Ferguson had huge success with very good wingers and I think we will too. Just hoping Firminho can step up to the next level to get on the end of those crosses. He was great last season but I think he needs to push on again to be our 20+ striker and make the most of what I think Mane and Salah will be delivering.
Also interested to see if Gini gets the call to attack more with late runs into the box as I can see him getting into double figures with great deliveries from the flanks.
20 Jul 2017 14:17:06
You know what MK, you genuinely missed out not seeing them play live. They were something else. Aldo had a tremendous work rate and didn't shirk a challenge as well as being able to finish. Barnes and Beardsley were quick, clever and skilful. Seeing Salah and Mane is as close as we've ever had to having the kind of player that B and B were.
20 Jul 2017 14:53:00
I'll always maintain the only weakness is the 08/ 09 team was our wingers. Even Kuyt was more graft than class. If that team had had mane and salah in it (obviously at their current ages, not when they were teenagers) we would have won everything.
20 Jul 2017 15:24:16
Putney u could say the same about the team that came 2nd under Rodgers, the only winger in that team was a young sterling who actually played at the tip of a diamond for most of the season because we had no one out to partner him on the other side and we wanted to fit both suarez and sturridge in up front, another decent winger would have done wonders for that team too and allowed us to mix up our formations a lot more when needed. This is why I'm excited to have both salah and mane for this season coming and if injuries occur we can then switch formations or even play some other lads out wide for a few games when needed.
20 Jul 2017 15:53:16
Barnes could win the league on his own! He is up there with Kenny! Special player! A lot more than just winger!
20 Jul 2017 12:25:42
Just a response to cobra666 all transfers are risks there's no sure thing memory's of veron at Lazio and flopped in England Henry at juventus also bale at Tottenham both careers were falling apart until a manager put trust in them and both turned out class also kaka was a legend at AC broke the world record to go to Madrid and what happened? All risks some work others don't but would much rather take a gamble on talent than waste more money at Southampton (vvd)
20 Jul 2017 13:03:52
waste money on VVD? if you could create a defender to suit liverpool and sort out their defensive problems i feel VVD is pretty close to the ideal player. Tall, fast, strong, great in the air, great at passing and great in 1v1 situations. I can't think of anyone in the league better at winning aerial duels in which led to so many of our goals conceded last year. Sometimes he can get a bit headstrong and Agger it into midfield getting caught out of position but overall I feel he is a must. Not saying we will get him just that I don't think he will be a waste if we did.
20 Jul 2017 13:19:29
There is no doubt he is monster in the air. In a 1 vs 1 headed duel I reckon he'd beat anybody else in the league 9 times out of 10 except Carroll, Kompany and McAuley. We definitely did struggle aerially.
My worry is that he is positionally inept, lacks leadership and struggles to mark players. Give him a ball to attack, sure. But give him a man to mark and he is lost. He isn't a bad player, but I think there is better value elsewhere. £70m is just ridiculous. For that I'd expect the most complete defender in the world; Basically a 100% fit Kompany!
20 Jul 2017 14:04:56
Spot on, MK on our second paragraph. For that alone, he is not worth anywhere near 70m. Firmino spinned and lost him in the 0-0 game last season and had to pull him back and foul him, something the linesman and ref (Clattenberg of course) missed. People want to talk about his upside which there is and dismiss his glaring weaknesses. A defender with that many flaws to his game, is nowhere near 70m.
20 Jul 2017 14:21:44
I agree and disagree MK, I feel when in a 1v1 with the ball at the opponents feet he is extremely difficult to take on not just aerially. I agree with marking could be better as sometimes i feel he gets caught ball watching a little, but disagree with you saying he lacks leadership as he's always barking out orders to his fellow team mates. I for one could not name any defender we could get better than VVD for the system we play in.
20 Jul 2017 15:05:48
I don't even think a 100% kompany warrants that price tag maybe a 20 year old boy Maldini may be.
20 Jul 2017 16:04:57
Let me remind some of you this window is madness regards fees, walker 50mil, we want 30 for sakho a player everybody knows the manager hates. I agree with most that yes he has weaknesses in his game but our team plays to his strengths. When's the last time a team came to actually play us an we lost? Besides we will have lovren in reserve for more physical games if needed who relishes that kind of play.
20 Jul 2017 12:20:10
Afternoon all.
Can somebody tell me exactly why everybody keeps saying if we don't get Keita, he will go to Bayern Munich when his release clause activates next year?
Does not make any sense to me at all. If he wants to come to us why will he go to Bayern when we can go and match the clause ourself? 😩.
20 Jul 2017 12:45:11
Because that clause doesn't apply to us!
20 Jul 2017 12:46:04
RTP
His release clause next year only allows German clubs to activate it.
20 Jul 2017 13:27:24
He'll end up there.
German clubs love supplying Bayern with players.
There's no point in even having that league it's boring to watch Munich win it year in year out.
20 Jul 2017 13:55:16
Because next year we might not be in champions league. We will probably already have bought are plan b or c.
Bayern, Madrid, psg, arsenal, Chelsea all want him but don't see the value at this price. Next year it will be a much more reasonable price and he could have an even better year than this year and drive even more interest in him. United's and city's. All of those teams can pay more in wages and fees. We really don't want to go up against them.
I hope I have helped you understand the importance of getting this transfer done this window.
20 Jul 2017 13:58:07
1. Bayern might replace Vidal with Keita.
2. Bayern is a mighty big club and most players would want to play for them.
3.There is absolutely no guarantee we will finish inside top 4 next season!
20 Jul 2017 18:34:34
I know the clause doesn't apply to us, but if they accept it from 1 team and another team (who the player wants) bids the same, or slightly more, surely it’s unlikely they can reject our bid?
Well maybe now after we have tapped him up they might tell us where to go again 😣
And I think we will be top 4 next season, people seem to really underestimate the squad we have now and without injuries we would have finished 2nd/ 3rd
Yes spidermane thanks lol because we are trying to spend so much i’d assume we might actually be able to offer him a competitive wage in regards to most of the other teams if we reaallllyyyyy want him.
I kinda always take the "'playername' is interested in a move to LFC" as a they might actually want to play for us instead of letting money talk. I know it’s a rarity now a days but i’m still hopeful some are like that haha.
{Ed002's Note - They can decide whether to accept any bid or not.}
20 Jul 2017 11:59:49
Ok ok ok, I'm clearly thick as sh** but I really don't get this whole "tapping up" business in the first place. If a club is interested in a player, why not just go straight to his contracted club and submit a formal offer and if it's accepted by that club then it's up to the player to decide if he's interested on joining your club or not.
20 Jul 2017 12:05:26
The objective of "tapping up" is basically to ensure the player wants to come before wasting time making bids, but it’s mainly so we can try and get the player to force a move and hopefully get a reduced fee because he wants to leave.
Bites us on the ass every time yet we will never learn smh.
20 Jul 2017 12:35:51
I think it's perfectly reasonable for a club to contact a player's agent and ask them "If we were to make a bid, would you client be interested in talking to us? "
What is not reasonable is to talk directly to the player themselves, discuss money and terms with them and then announce to the media what your intentions are with regards to that player without ever contacting his club to inform them of any interest. All in the hope that the player tells his club he wants to leave and to leave them with little to no option but to sell him for cheaper then they think is reasonable.
No wonder clubs are getting annoyed at us. All we are doing is shooting ourselves in the foot every time we act like this.
20 Jul 2017 13:08:05
Cheers for the replies guys. still don't the concept behind trying to find out if a player is interested in joining before making a formal bid, like we could easily go out and make a bid for Messi and he just turns around and says he's not interested in joining us. This whole trying to find out or unsettle a player (tapping up) just seems a complete wasted exercise.
I do get the concept of tapping up of younger players, such as takes place in American sports quite a lot, "Join our team and we'll buy your Mom a house" sort of thing.
Anyways, ramble over.
Cheers.
{Ed002's Note - There is nothing wrong with finding out if a player is interested at all. And that is perfectly fine. What Liverpool have done repeated is unsettle and illegally approach players of other clubs. It is unprofessional in the extreme. What I don't get is the fans want to keep talking about this.}
20 Jul 2017 13:59:13
The club can't attract the player by other means!
Too many suitors for the player!
Force the selling club to listen to offers!
20 Jul 2017 14:02:51
RedDawn, that is incorrect. If you are interested in a player, your first port of call is to the player's club and not to his agent.
20 Jul 2017 15:42:48
Is the process different in other countries? I only ask because it seems odd that Klopp is doing at Liverpool but there was never any mention of underhand tactics whilst he was at Dortmund (correct me if I'm wrong) . If it's the same process he must have just forgot the rules but if it's different and in Germany you can approach the player then it could be a genuine mistake?
{Ed002's Note - You think FIFA rules don't apply in Germany and Klopp made a simple mistake? Brilliant.}
20 Jul 2017 16:12:32
Not what I said but I guess i'll take it. Thanks for your time.
21 Jul 2017 23:22:27
My two cents - Dortmund albeit not the best, have been a top well known club for years and players would want to go their without underhand tactics being applied.
Unfortunately because Liverpool have been so 'off the radar' for so long and we are so unpredictable in our league position. Players aren't as keen to joining us. We have the History but we don’t have the Present so to speak.
Players want champions league and Dortmund rarely had a problem getting that and did better than us when we did occasionally get into it.
20 Jul 2017 11:44:48
Not often I do not want lfc to get their targets but hoping we do not get vvd or naby, as we have done everything wrong that could possibly be done.
We are in serious danger of being banned if we continue the way we are. I love klopp but he is disrespectful when it comes to other teams players. There has to be an internal investigation done and we have to restructure our approach from the point if identifying the target to successful bidding. As good as the players are we are targeting they are not worth the ban and our name being dragged through mud.
For the life of me I can not believe we can not scout more then 1 suitable player per position. i know I will get loads of disagrees but I am frustrated with the way we disregard the rules and are in danger of making ourselves a bigger joke then we have become to selling clubs.
20 Jul 2017 12:01:53
Moroccan I understand the frustration but if klopp deems these player to be the missing pieces who are we to judge this guy took a struggling Dortmund team into one of the most feared teams in the world. We don't know what going on behind closed doors they might have found a suitable replacement but why should we settle for second best would you settle for second in the league. no these two players could be the key to finishing top 6 or winning the league it's that simple look at Leicester take Kante out they could have been relegated have faith in the manager and the board and hopefully we can get both over the line.
20 Jul 2017 12:08:02
How much do you, I or anyone else not involved in the clubs in question really really know about the approaches taken?
Why did the FA not charge LFC on the VVD issue? I suspect it wasn't because of an apology?! American Excuse - that should do nicely!? No, the FA hierarchy surely are not whimps Anderson more inclined to set examples if they can?
Sure there was something there to make the Saints complain, and LFC to issue an apology but none of us really know the true extent nor how widespread in the game it is. Sometimes there is a fine line between following rules and breaking them. One thing for sure though, the press like a story and will exagerate as much as possible to make it a seller on a grand scale!
Personally I think you are without detailed fact somewhat over reacting.
{Ed001's Note - you think the FA aren't wimps? If you know that little about football, it really is best we just don't bother with the rest of your post! The FA are incompetent old buffoons who have never once set an example of anyone. They have swept failed drugs tests, bungs etc under the carpet for many many years.}
20 Jul 2017 12:46:08
The special handshake brigade and jobs for the boys.
That's all they are.
20 Jul 2017 13:12:05
Ed01 it has got absolutely nothing to do with how much I do or don't know about "football"! You can widen it to say what you like about my knowledge of institution, or lack of it. But you don't know me you don't know my background or anything about me.
My "surely the FA are not wimps. " point was a question not a statement, evident by the correct punctuation mark at the end of the sentence.
I think the site is a fine site and you all do a grand job but is there anything wrong with me questioning if any reader/ poster really knows the detail and fact behind something, without unworthy, bordering rude, criticism in my questioning?
{Ed001's Note - ok stroppy bollox run along and play with the other children who can't take criticism. You need to learn sentence structure and proper phrasing for a question, it is not just a case of putting a ? on the end! If you can't use English correctly you can't expect us to understand your wittering nonsense properly can you? I don't know why I am bothering, you will only get all arsey because you have been criticised again. I won't bother again with you.}
20 Jul 2017 14:00:00
I can't believe people are now abusing FA and Southampton for our in-appropriate and stupid behaviour!
It was our bloody mistake to tap a player! End of!
20 Jul 2017 14:03:22
The FA. What FA? You mean the FA that hired a bung addict like Allardyce, fired him for impropriety and then still let him coach in the PL? That FA? Of course, they are not wimps. They are severely spineless.
20 Jul 2017 14:28:39
All mute now but I was under the impression that we had written confirmation from saints to meet VVD in Blackpool to discuss with him, so did Man C and Chelski, now anything else Klopp is accused of I can't comment on but clearly Saints where aware nd happy for clubs to discuss terms with him?
{Ed002's Note - Nonsense.}
20 Jul 2017 15:46:45
Don't want Liverpool to get their targets. Worst statement of the window so far.
20 Jul 2017 11:34:17
Can anyone else see a resemblance between Diego Costa and Solanke or is it just me. There is something about the eyes and the stare!
Hopefully Solanke will be more successful than Costa and that's where the resemblance stops.
20 Jul 2017 11:39:31
I see what you mean, but Diego is quite short and Dominic is so-lanky.
20 Jul 2017 11:41:15
It's not often I post and first time posting on this page.
But the second part of the above post made me laugh
I understand you can dislike Costa and I dislike certain parts of his personality and how he acts, however how can you claim 2 prem titles in 3 years isn't successful? Yes he's not been the top scorer in the prem but his goals and all round contribution have helped Chelsea achieve what they have over the past 3 seasons.
20 Jul 2017 11:42:43
I can see where your coming from, similar style of play in terms of how he holds the ball up, similar pace, stature and movement.
20 Jul 2017 11:46:32
If Solanke replicates his goal record I'd be happy, just hope he foregoes the horrendous personality.
20 Jul 2017 12:11:16
I don't think so. Costa looks like a pug. Solanke, not so much.
20 Jul 2017 13:41:18
Solanke looks good for his age. Good first touch and a strikers instinct! Firmino would have passed that ball without a doubt while Solanke took the chance! If he keeps the same progress he is third in the pecking order ahead of both Origi and Ings! Who knows a couple of goals and you could well see him play a lot more than what you have thought!
20 Jul 2017 13:44:28
Yep. Good eyes lad.
Very similar. If I was Chelsea he would of been earmarked as a ready made replacement for me.
Big and strong but nimble quick feet. Strength and good running. Score all sorts of goals. Just a bit young. Got more confidence in him than any of our others though.
20 Jul 2017 14:17:45
King Drogba. Actually I admire Costa's success. I'm hoping Solanke (and Liverpool) outshine it!
It's true though I can't stand the fella on the pitch.
20 Jul 2017 11:29:10
Good read on the LFC website about Gerrard and his thoughts on Lucas as a player and person. Shows how highly thought of Lucas was within the squad.
20 Jul 2017 12:20:22
Lucas cname to compete with Stevie for attacking mid role. Got shunted into defensive midfield role that he made his own. Then got shunted out of it as Stevie's legs betrayed him and led him into the deep lying quarterback position. eventually Lucas won it back and arguably was as good as Stevie in that position in Stevie's last season. and then remodelled hiss game again into a CB role. All whilst not being disruptive presence in dressing room, being a leader and presence in club and community. What a player for the club. Legend? Dunno, his story is great either way.
20 Jul 2017 14:00:51
We ruined his career in short and simple. He was an attacking mid which we never played to his strength and made him a Jack of all trades! None of our manages had the balls to play him in his natural position!
20 Jul 2017 15:49:03
I wish I could dislike NKDDs post more than once!
20 Jul 2017 10:51:52
This has to go down as one of the strangest transfer windows of all time. The highs and lows are killing me. Bring on Aug 31.
20 Jul 2017 07:49:07
Ed, with regards to my post last night about if we had the right director of football, it would go away to solving a lot of our issues.
You rightly pointed out that we've appointed Michael Edwards as sporting director.
Surely he has to be held accountable for mis dealings in the transfer window? Either for sanctioning illegal approaches or for not reining in Klopp for the illegal approaches whilst on Edwards' watch? Not to mention clearly no social/ business skills or due diligence with dealing with vending clubs and hence why we're now stumbling around.
{Ed002's Note - No. If you want to apportion blame it is Klopp. This has been done to death.}
20 Jul 2017 10:30:35
Surely it's both, Klopp has not acted appropriately and Edwards has not noticed or has allowed Klopp to carry on!
20 Jul 2017 11:23:40
What is the difference between Klopps meeting Van Dyke in Blackpool and Wenger meeting Mbappe for 3hrs. Neither club want to sell or accept any bid? This question keeps getting swerved.
{Ed002's Note - As I have already explained, Liverpool illegally approached a number of players after two warnings last summer, another warning this summer, a complaint to the Premier League and have already been banned for fouling up the career of a 12 year old leaving hios family in debt. You clearly know nothing of the Wenger meeting nor of the other two people who were present - nor I doubt the circumstances. Move on, this is embarrassing that you keep saying the same thing over and over again trying to deflect blame away from Klopp and the team who are absolutely bottom of the pile in terms of professionalism across European football.}
20 Jul 2017 12:15:02
All I'm saying Ed is, surely if Michael Edwards was doing his job properly, we might not be in such a mess. He should be taking control and if Klopp misbehaves, Edwards should let him know about it.
I didn't realise we'd discussed Edwards' role before, apologies if so.
{Ed002's Note - No, it is simply the blame culture loved by the Liverpool fans. They can't let go and scratch away at deflecting matters away from Klopp.}
20 Jul 2017 14:23:28
Ed I'm blaming both Klopp and Edwards. I think Klopp has acted appalling and needs calling in for it.
I don't think you understand where I'm coming from so in the interest of not irritating you, I'll leave it there. Thank you for your response Ed.
20 Jul 2017 14:38:37
So what you're saying is without any accepted bid for Mbappe it's absolutely ok Wenger met him and discussed his playing future and this is from a manager who'd like to sign him.
{Ed002's Note - It was nothing to do with any bid. It was not tapping up. You don't understand anything about those present. It is very, very embarrassing that you go on and on about this trying to deflect the gross and unacceptble behavior of Liverpool FC and Klopp.}
20 Jul 2017 06:27:06
Hello eds. Would it be a correct understanding - that we have again tapped a player (Keita) and further bidding on him might irritate RBL and they can report us for unsettling their player?
That would surely get us a transfer ban.
{Ed002's Note - There is nothing new.}
20 Jul 2017 13:03:27
Didn't wenger have a 3 hour meeting with mbappe that was somehow NOT reported as tapping up?
{Ed002's Note - That was not "tapping up". Pitiful.}
20 Jul 2017 02:37:55
Been reading there is a good chance of the ACON being moved to summertime. Does Ed002 have any info to back this up? tyia.
{Ed002's Note - That proposal is on the table.}
20 Jul 2017 01:23:08
Eds. Is there anyone else going in for Nabby Keita? It just seems strange to me that we are bidding so much on a player that no one else seems to be all that interested in. Usually when we are in for a high profile player we are in bidding wars with Europe's elite or at the very least spurs. But with Keita it seems like no one else is all that bothered.
{Ed002's Note - There is interest from other sides but they wouldn't see value at the prices Liverpool has been looking at.}
20 Jul 2017 08:27:56
Africa cup of nations could be moving to June or July from now on, should finally put an end too all that nonsense.
20 Jul 2017 09:22:50
Do we have players who go to afcon lol.
20 Jul 2017 10:37:27
Yes lol.
20 Jul 2017 12:09:30
Not sure if Lee is being serious or is not a genuine LFC fan 😂😂.
20 Jul 2017 12:23:01
I hope they find a solution that suits everyone as well as maintaining the respect and dignity for the AFCON. No one cared until african players started playing for europe's elite clubs.
20 Jul 2017 12:44:36
Fingers crossed!
20 Jul 2017 12:49:32
Is that you been sarcastic Lee? I sincerely hope so lol.
20 Jul 2017 12:52:57
Salah and Mane. Plus if we sign Keita he'd go as well.
20 Jul 2017 10:37:27
Yes lol.
20 Jul 2017 07:37:19
See a lot of rumours flying around that VVD has handed in a transfer request. Any truth in this eds?
Thanks as always.
{Ed025's Note - that is being rumoured mate but i cant confirm it at this stage..
20 Jul 2017 08:10:09
Can someone quickly summarise how this changes things pls? Can/ will FSG now officially go back in for him considering the public apology? The player ends up missing out on some financial aspect - is that right?
{Ed001's Note - he loses his 5% of the transfer fee if true.}
20 Jul 2017 08:56:52
Would Liverpool cover his 5% as part of the deal Eds?
{Ed001's Note - why would we? We pay a signing bonus and wages.}
20 Jul 2017 09:23:06
If he signs, Gomez can kiss goodbye to a place in the team, which I'll be gutted about, he deserves his chance now. Bugger VVD, look after our own. What's the point in having an academy if we do knack all with it.
20 Jul 2017 09:18:42
Ed1, why are players so greedy about that 5%? They're all on so much anyway what does it matter?
{Ed001's Note - because it is millions.}
20 Jul 2017 09:27:43
Keep gomez. get rid of klaven.
20 Jul 2017 09:45:38
Nonsense rumors imo. Once again Twitter rearing its stupid head into fooling fans and aiding betting companies. Unless some decent sources (Paul Joyce) report something, better not believe these baseless rumors. If VVd forces the move, it will be towards the end of the window when he realises he will be stuck at Saints for another season. Right now, he will probably be hoping LFC and SFC sort things out between them and an acceptable offer is put on the table. TR will be the absolute last resort.
20 Jul 2017 10:53:17
Teabag, I would think that Gomez, as a 20yo, still has a future here. Instead I would be looking at Lovren and Klavan as being at risk over the next season or two, with Gomez looking to ultimately form a partnership with VVD.
Also, as a minor point mate, he didn't come from our academy. We bought him a couple of years ago from Charlton, if memory serves? He was a promising 18yo from the Charlton academy and would've had much more exposure in our first team (cups etc) if he hadn't got injured.
I am a little frustrated with youngsters (under 22) who don't want to fight for places. Its clear our defence needs an upgrade, I completely understand not wanting to risk a 20yo as a guaranteed starter and therefore get an experienced excellent player in. Having heard the reports from Square Tomato, I don't think Joe is the sort to throw his toys out of the pram and be agitating for a permanent move if VVD comes in. Instead I would hope he sees it as a challenge and an opportunity to prove his worth.
All of our existing CBs have concerns over them - Lovren is injury and accident prone, Klavan is solid but lacking in pace and not exceptional, Matip is our best CB but injury prone. Just because we get in one exceptional (in my view) player, shouldn't mean Gomez has lost his chance. But it should mean our CB unit as a whole has got an upgrade.
20 Jul 2017 10:38:17
5% of £70 million is 3.5 million - no matter how rich you are, its hard to say no to!
20 Jul 2017 12:46:10
Southampton will be forced to sell. He wants only Liverpool! They could run down his contract which is a stupid idea! Liverpool make an offer, They take then money and sell te player who doesn't want to remain at Southampton!
20 Jul 2017 12:47:07
Not for this case but in general:
A Club and a Player talked about a transfer and agreed on Terms etc. but the owning club don't want to sell.
Cant the buying club agree with the player to hand in the request and pay him the 5% he would lose through handing in the transfer request as some kind of payment upfront?
20 Jul 2017 12:53:08
That 5% should be put into a charity every single transfer. Greed, Greed and more Greed.
20 Jul 2017 13:12:57
Klopp's 2 blunders
1. Replacing Sakho with Klavan
2. Handing Lovren a new improved contract
The youngster will beat its consequences as well the team as a whole!
20 Jul 2017 13:45:54
You surely just give your when instruction to say you want that in your signing fee. If something happens like you putting in a transfer request and losing your 5% ;)
20 Jul 2017 10:38:17
5% of £70 million is 3.5 million - no matter how rich you are, its hard to say no to!
20 Jul 2017 07:04:05
On a side note, who else is happy that Harry has gone back to his original user name?!
Let's party like it's 2012.!
20 Jul 2017 07:20:01
Harry is this site's only Celebrity poster no doubt.
And of course Zed is his biggest fan. :)
{Ed025's Note - they will both be on love island next year i expect reet.. :)
20 Jul 2017 09:05:25
Which harry? sorry😅😅.
20 Jul 2017 11:41:10
I understand Harry and Ed001 are already booked onto next year's show!
{Ed001's Note - what show?}
20 Jul 2017 05:40:37
Hi Edds, just a question, if the stance from Redbull is Naby Keita, is not for sale why do Liverpool keep on bidding? I find it strange for a club to keep bidding for a player that is deemed not for sale. Thanks for all the hard work you guys put in.
{Ed025's Note - imo yan liverpool must believe they have a good chance to sign him or why else would they spend so much time and effort on chasing him?..
20 Jul 2017 06:50:21
Yan you are spot on mate with your thoughts. I have said that also on here, they won't sell him and we have hardly anytime to look elsewere. When Macca said he beleives Keita will sign, he was obviously expecting Rbl to cave in with our final bid! They didn't and they have good stubborn owners.
20 Jul 2017 07:21:57
I've said this before, our owners cannot win.
If we give up on the managers first choice and sign the second choice they get slated.
If they relentlessly pursue the first choice - they get slated.
We need to wind our necks in and stop panicking over the signing of one player.
We have a good squad, it is constantly developing, don't worry about new signings.
20 Jul 2017 08:09:42
Its ridiculous just how we fail to differentiate Football manager and actual life events Ron.
20 Jul 2017 08:26:57
Finally some sense! Ron and Ore, well said. Some people need to take some time out from here and go back to your bedrooms to play some Football Manager or whatever football games makes you think in these embarrassing ways! It's getting painful even coming on here now!
20 Jul 2017 09:21:00
Why would the club chase a player they believe they couldn't sign!
20 Jul 2017 10:03:49
Thats exactly it Harry but its clear that is what has happened.
20 Jul 2017 12:42:31
Zielinski.
20 Jul 2017 12:51:57
Spot on Ron, couldn't agree more mate.
20 Jul 2017 13:45:27
That is the part I don't get, Harry. RBL will not sell. In fact, before the season ended, RBL had said publicly that none of their players would be for sale at any price and they mentioned that specifically PL teams need not apply. They are making good on their stance yet here we are barking up the wrong tree. Why we go after players who either are not interested in coming here or whose clubs won't sell at any price, I will never know.
19 Jul 2017 23:39:34
The "Fat kid from Bolton" is FIRMly standing by his stance on Keita.
Saying not a case of "it will happen" but actually "it HAS happened" and they're now just following a prescribed timetable.
"This time next week, you'll be able to buy your Keita 8 shirt from the shop! "
Not sure what I'm hooked more on; the Naby Keita saga in general or the possibility of an Ed02 vs Fat kid from Bolton fight to the death!
{Ed002's Note - I am better looking.}
20 Jul 2017 01:08:35
My money is on sparky. He'd do both of them with one paw tied behind his back.
20 Jul 2017 01:44:23
Who is the fat kid from Bolton?
20 Jul 2017 06:53:56
Peter Kay or Sam.
20 Jul 2017 09:06:44
Thope not sam.