Liverpool Banter Archive July 20 2014

20 Jul 2014 23:02:12
Just wanted to say how impressed I was with Jordan Rossiter yesterday. He showed great maturity and looked an experienced Premier League midfielder at times. I`m not one for getting carried away with youngsters performances as they can develop either way at such a young age. I do believe though this kid is going to be something really special. Nowhere near the finished article yet but he has a real chance to become a household name within the next 2-3 seasons for me. Thought his performance was terrific. Good tactical awareness and positioning. He never gave the ball away and was always looking to make himself available. High hopes for the kid.

Me to, he looked miles better than Lucas in that holding role, which is not his preferred position either.
I'd really love to see him in one of our tougher friendlys playing with more first team players.

Rossiter
Hendo- lallana
Coutinho

I really rate Rossiter but he played a lot of weak or wayward passes. I think nerves were affecting him because if youbwatch him at youth level, you'll know how uncharacteristic that is. I think we'll see more of him next season, but I don't see him getting a regular run until at least the season after. He's only 17 remember. We don't want to destroy his confidence or burn him out.

I personally think that now Baio is gone, Coady and Pelosi need to be looked at and reviewed. If they are not deemed good enough, I think we need a short term option to replace Lucas if he leaves. Medel, Mascherano, Alonso or De Rossi. Just someone to anchor the midfield and be an experienced head in a very young midfield who will be able to rotate with Gerrard or potentially play with him.

In 2 years time Rossiter and Chivarella will be knocking on the door and by then the likes of Henderson will be the experienced heads; probably even the captain.

When a player is 18/19 etc that is the time to start integrating them. By 21/22 if they are still not a regular, it's getting to the point where they never will be. Rossiter is a young 17 though and we don't need to rush him just yet.

He wasn't that impressive chaps. He did ok. But let's not get ahead of ourselves.

I think Lucas has looked pretty good so far in preseason IMO.

Chaps. Rossiter is a kid. Lucas doesn't want to be a back up as he's in his prime years. We have bought Can. It's all very simple, why complicate things and talk round in circles?

20 Jul 2014 20:44:24
Seen a few debates on how to replace Lucas if he leaves. Personally I don't think Rossiter or Chiverllaare ready. Rossiter has obvious talent but so far in preseason he has looked a bit nervous at times and needs another year in the reserves in my opinion. Gerrard, Allen and Can are all capable of playing there though as is Henderson. I think an outside shout has got to be Coady though. So far in preseason I think he has done very well. He adds a bit of dynamism and scouse passion to the position. Who would've said Flanno was good enough before we chucked him in at the deep end in the derby last season? Most had Wisdom down as the better player and had written Flanno off.

Perhaps Coady, given the chance he could make the step up. He was great for Sheffield last season and although he had worse opposition, he also had worse team mates!

After these first couple of games, and having followed his rise in the academy from when he was a 14 year old making his U16 debut, I know he has the talent. Perhaps he just needs a chance to show it?

Gerrard and Allen are not defensive midfielders although they can slot in there if needed. Lucas on the other hand is the only experienced defensive midfielder at the club. If he goes he MUST be replaced.

By all means have youngsters in and around the first team, but they should be used sparingly either in cup games or substitution etc. You need to remember that Emre Can is only 20 years old and he will most likely be used in this way. I still see the need for a solid experienced DM if Lucas is to leave.

It would be foolish to enter the new season believing that an inexperienced young player who had one good season in league 1 is the answer to our problems. However, I admire you support for the young lads, and they will get their chance to shine, but if we, as a club want to compete at the top for years to come we need to make sure we strengthen effectively this summer otherwise we will find ourselves back in the same situation we have been in for the last few years.

Red Rum

Not sure about Coady, tbh Adam.

He's looked good both in last pre-season and in the couple of games this year. However, in the couple of competitive games he played for us in 2012-13, he just seemed to let the occasion get the better of him.

Maybe he's conquered his nerves at Sheffield Utd last season and therefore maybe he's worth a go, but I'm just not sure. Flanno looked good right from the start when KK played him in his teens. Yes he had the odd off game, as you'd expect from a kid, but even his first game at City was very good, so imo Flanno's always had the temperament to play for the first team in competitive games, but I'm not sure about Coady. He could be next Neil Mellor, or he may just be a slow developer in terms of temperament (hope its the latter as I've had high hopes for him too over the last few years. )

Z

Just sticking to your comment about Coady; I don't think he is as good a player as Rossiter.

I thought Coady had a good game against Shamrock and last season Shef Utd used him a lot on the right side of mid last season; can't see him being the holding player for us or being given the responsibility to do so.

Don't get me wrong I like him as a player I just think he's not going to make it where as Rossiter looks like he will.

Given the fact that Italian teams don't like spending money and always want people on the cheap (well when dealing with us) then its not certain that Lucas will go - unless they find a few more lira :o)

Can is no inexperienced young player

20 Jul 2014 22:59:20
Now Suarez is gone and Rodgers doesn't have to play two strikers, expect him to play 4-3-3 as his 'standard'. In a 4-3-3 there is no out-and-out defensive midfielder. The three man midfield will line up 2up, one back or one up 2 back dependent on opposition and even what the score is win the last quarter of a game.

Stop thinking how we used to play, start thinking how Rodgers prefers to play.

EMS, I don't think Coady is good enough, being a scouser I would love it if he could bo our next scouse star but I don't think it will happen, talking about scousers and I am gutted to say this but I don't think Flanagan will be a long term fix for us at either full back position, I just don't think he is the answer, I love his commitment and tenacity, he would run through a brick wall for us but hecisvnot a good enough all round footballer, sorry.

No Jessie, but he has a long way to go if he is to make the DM position his own. Can is a better option than Allen but nowhere near as good as Lucas in that position, and personally, I don't think Lucas has been good enough following his injury problems.

Red Rum

All fair comments I was just putting it out there. On a side note I completely disagree with regards to Flanno not being a good footballer. I think that is a bit of a myth now actually as he is very comfortable going forward and passing the ball. I haven't seen him panic on the ball since his debut season!

With regards to Coady though, I have no doubt he has the talent, however he is clearly struggling to make the jump up to the Premier League. I was merely suggesting he be given a chance to make a claim for the role. I know Gerrard is not the best there, but he will be first choice there next season. Therefore having Can and Coady/(new player) as back up wouldn't be a problem. I just said on a post above that I'd want an experienced player though. That way when he came in for Gerrard our midfield wouldn't lose all its experience in one hit. An Alonso or a Mascherano would be good as both have CL experience, premier league experience, know the club and are still great players being wrongly fased out of their clubs. That being said, I'm a massive fan of Lucas and don't see the point in selling him in the first place!

21 Jul 2014 08:17:49
Emre Can is a holding midfielder. If Lucas goes, Can will be considered his replacement

Yeah i disagree with the flanno comment - although he may not be the most technically gifted full back like you see i personally get shivers when he puts in one of those tackles of his - so if it lifts me if i'm sat at home watching or in the ground then imagine what it does for the rest of the team - how many times have we all gone mad and got everyone up when we see stevie burst back and make a sliding challenge - flanno must be our right back

I'm with Alan. Flanagan has tons of heart but lacks quality. Jonno gets slated but Flanno gets skinned far more often and is lacking big time as an offensive full back. However, his efforts last year remind me of Carra and his battle to nail a place against more talented players. If BR thinks his desire and commitment means he gets the nod over others then great. Every squad needs a Flanno but a regular starter? Not so sure.

20 Jul 2014 19:46:10
Just my meaningless thoughts and ramblings but I believe Remy will be a very good signing for LFC and will score a lot of goals next season I do honestly believe any striker with decent goal scoring ability (like remy) can score 20+ goals in this team of ours due to the amount of chances that we as a team create (with or without Suarez) so I'm happy with this signing if it is completed! Next season should be a good one! Only need Moreno and Lovren and everything will be sound I reckon!

Lion your.opinion is your opinion and not meaningless. I agree with what you saidn remy mate

Sturridge clearly can't play every game in what hopefully is a 60 game season. And to my mind Remy is a very good option instead of Sturridge, whereas Bony would need us to change our system when he plays.

Remy can drop in pretty seemlessly and give similar to what Studge does.

Good signing!

I think Remy will be a very astute signing if he controls the attitude. He needs desire to succeed at Anfield not just talent alone. BR is assembling a very capable squad with some real depth. Who would of given their right arm for a squad as deep last season?
Lovren
Remy
Can
Origi
Lallana
Markovic
Add the above too the best young team in the EPL and I am hopeful of a very good season in 2014 - 2015 no need for ridiculous marque signings. Build a team that wants to build a legacy and we will be fine.

My only concern in regard to Remy are his fitness issues and that he can't pick and choose who he plays against because of International commitments.

20 Jul 2014 20:00:34
borini has travelled on the us tour indicating he wants to stay .great a 14 mill deal was a good deal

I would force the move with borini now

Sounds like he's just keeping his options open and hoping for a better team to come in. If they don't then I fully expect him to go to Sunderland.

20 Jul 2014 18:52:14
Evening all,
Just a quicky . would you say if Borini was to go, would we be looking to add another striker as well as Remy? If Remy was to finalize of course.Thanks.
JM

Only if that striker is Origi who would go out on loan

21 Jul 2014 14:21:44
No, only one forward will arrive this summer as the Eds have said. Ed002 has also said many times about replacing players on loan, Haych

20 Jul 2014 18:32:17
Hi fellow reds,
I for one would be thrilled to get Isco. He adds passing and great dribbling to the side. Another Coutinho-esc would be great-and slightly more physical. The only downside is it would be so hard to pick a starting eleven. However something tells me, if isco were to come, it would mean coutinho would be leaving. I would rather have Coutinho to be honest.
What are your thoughts guys?
I personally would be v. happy with Isco being are "marquee" signing, as it were, as long as it meant keeping coutinho.
Thanks

Iscos a huge talent mate. i'd be delighted if we got him on a loan. See how he fares in the PL, then pay bug bucks next year if he.does well and when we have the.money. he's a star overshadowed by a team that wants to buy the next big thing every year

20 Jul 2014 23:19:55
A loan would be brilliant. But if we suddenly wanted to make the purchase I don't see why we brought in lallana (who is the only signing thus far who excites me), and a spurs type situation might arise.

20 Jul 2014 17:48:43
Were now favourites to sign isco any news?

Hope we get him! but i'm not sure its going to happen

We were favourites to sign Reus the other day. It doesn't mean anything

We are favourites to sign bloody everyone

20 Jul 2014 17:34:37
Hello everyone! Not a regular poster but a daily reader prolly 15 times everyday or more

My opinion about our performance this coming season is that we are going to blow people away and be a force to reckon with reason been that lots of people didn't see Liverpool beyond Luis Suarez and will probably expect little threat from us this season

Secondly I still feel Rodgers has some more transfer surprises in stock, that is; after signing Lovren and whatever LB and prolly Remy one more 'major' signing not necessarilly expensive.
It could be anyone, but I will try not to Jinx it

Mates, brendan deserves our trust afterall he did prove us wrong with Studge and did wonders with Hendo, raheem and Flanno, improvised when we had no fit DM by converting Gerrard and it paid god dividends, got us to second on the Epl table from seventh and abve all put us back into the competition of the elite, Champions league despite our complains and discontent.

Wish yall a blissful day
Ed 007 we need to see you more often

Great post mate, if Brendan can sort out our defensive issues of last season I 100% have the same belief as you.

20 Jul 2014 17:07:50
BR "we want the top players but sometimes the top players want to be playing in the top competition which is something we aim to achieve"

We achieve CL and still don't go for the top players but we did when we wasnt in the top 4 (mkhitaryan, costa, etc)

Have we as supporters been taken for a ride in regards to these apparent top players we targeted before and the truth is we was never really going to sign them, only pretended to make it look like the club had ambition when they truly never?

Someone care to explain?

20 Jul 2014 18:32:11
Okay, if you say so.

As I recall, we were never going to get Mkhitaryan as Shaktahr wanted payment in full, which we couldn't/wouldn't do. Willian we never met the amount required. Salah we were well off of in terms of money as well.

You might notice a trend in the above where the first hurdle (money) was never jumped over successfully.

Yes rdl but now we have both cl and the money but we aren't going for top players

Leaves me feeling disillusioned

MARADONAKEBAB, also how we spent
all last January chasing KONO yet come
the summer when we've got more money and CL.football he is nowhere
to be seen.strange.

20 Jul 2014 22:49:20
We do not have the money.

The only place where we should be spending money is our poor defense!

Feel like this has been said a million times now, but 'top players' (subjective, but I'll assume you mean folks like Sanchez level) will generally require a minimum of one of two things:

a) High wages
b) Playing for a team that is consistently in the CL and has competitive wages

Some teams (City, Chelsea) can provide both of these, some teams (BVB, Arsenal) can provide CL, some teams (Monaco) can provide wages. We really can't claim either at the moment and trying to get those 'top players' is a competitive business. We're simply not at that level of wage paying or CL consistency yet and I'm not even sure when we are (and I do think we will be, at least the CL bit) I'm still not convinced we'll be regularly buying 'top players' as it's just not what we really do.

20 Jul 2014 16:35:59
Hi Eds,

Great work as always!

A question for Ed 001 if he's about.

Do you know if we have any other central defenders targeted in case we fail to get Lovren and if so are we likely to switch our attentions there?

I read today that Utd are supposedly targeting De Vrijj for about 10m. I don't think Liverpool are interested, but I think he is a decent player and shows that there are other options about, maybe at a better price.

Is there anybody else you rate who you would like as a possible alternative.

20 Jul 2014 18:20:11
Genuine interest has been shown in Hector Moreno of Espanyol and Ed002 also mentioned previous interest in Martin Hintregger although I don't know who he plays for and have never seen him play. I don't think Hector Moreno could play with Sakho as they're both left sided. Not sure on Hintregger though.

Hinteregger is a left sided centre back who plays for Red Bull Salzburg. He looked promising in the few games I watched pre January, but I was more focused on Kevin Kampl who we were also linked with at the time.

To be honest I don't think we will look to bring another left sided centre back unless someone leaves.

Red Rum

He has a broken leg from the WC match against the Dutch. Ain`t going to happen

20 Jul 2014 15:44:56
Eds, is there any truth in the reports about isco?thanks

{Ed002's Note - I only know what has been said here and have given my thoughts.}

Okay thanks ed

20 Jul 2014 15:25:56
I will be disappointed if the club lose out on the £14 million quoted for Borini but I can see why he wants to stay and prove himself, what with his bad start at the club, but I wonder if he is good enough to prove the doubters wrong? will he rue the missed chance of playing regular games?
he could be left on the bench ALL season then we all lose, if he is staying he better get scoring because if he doesn't his value will drop and we will lose money, so, do we play him or bin him? should BR tell him he doesn't figure or does he have faith in him? watch this space!

20 Jul 2014 17:24:57
It's only been a few days, let's just wait and see.

20 Jul 2014 14:43:46
I'd like to see 'third umpire' video refs tell the 1st official on the pitch (via instant line to his ear piece) whether a goal was offside or not

Could be extended to dives for penalties etc

I think football should be left alone

Totally agree - this would stop so much argument on the pitch, particularly if it was on a big screen for all to see like they do at rugby

Take away the controversy and you kill the game. The reason why football is so popular is because every weekend there is a debate to be had! If we run the game with machines it'll be as boring to watch as Rugby and Cricket!

20 Jul 2014 17:08:47
I agree, we all want the latest technology for our phones, cars etc. Why not football?

Sterlings goal vs City would have made a bit of a difference in the standings!

Introduce a 5-10min Sinbin for yellow cards. meaning that you get 2 free fouls before a yellow, no matter the infringement cynical or bad timing, time wasting what ever it is unless its a straight red. and not straight yellows like they do now. because players are making fouls and happy taking yellow cards like it is a birthday gift. if you add a sin bin to that yellow card people will be less inclined to make 'professional' fouls because they have something to lose.

20 Jul 2014 17:30:17
The imperfections make football perfect.

It's about time we stopped trying to tinker with the rules to make it more fair. The game is perfect. More regulation and sterilisation of the game will make it as boring as lawn bowls

Too much tech and the game gets boring. I would introduce a 'sort of US style time out. Basically each manager is given 2 time outs per game. When he calls it, a 4th ref watches the incident on his TV and his decision is final. Managers would have to be very careful how they used this as using them up over a couple of fouls in the first half would mean you have no recourse for the goal line incident in the second. This would add excitement and is also very quick. The decision would be made in the time it takes the ref to settle arguments at the moment! Just an idea though

I don't buy the argument that football would be less of a spectacle if more correct decisions were made by the officials.

20 Jul 2014 14:41:56
Now time for some optimism. Am I the only one here that's properly excited about next season? Yes we've sold Suarez, but we seem to be forgetting how good LFC were last season! Let me jog your memories. We were sensational! And that 10/11 match winning run we went on saw Suarez only contribute a handful of goals and in all honesty some frustrating performances. We are now about pace, quick decision making and ruthlessness, and for me these are things each of our attacking players excels at. Sterling and Markovic either side of Sturridge is frightening, and Lallana was exceptional last season in the final third. The fact that there are still more signings to come is so exciting, and to compare us to Spurs (post-Bale) is to insult LFC as a team last season, where we proved to be so much more than a one-dimensional, reliant-on-Suarez side. Now you're going to believe us.

Mate excellent name

Have to agree with you good sir. No doubt Suarez could awe us with his spectacular individual play, but I am expecting the team play and passing to be a wonder to watch this year. I may be one of the few on here who is excited about the prospect of all these young players growing together and truly turning into a unstoppable TEAM (force :) ) in the next couple of years. We go again in a month friends. YNWA

20 Jul 2014 17:36:32
Well said!

20 Jul 2014 13:31:01
Am I right in assuming that all the players we have signed so far Lallana, Can, Markovic, Lambert, Remy (looks a done deal) have cost us about £68m, which is about the same as the transfer fee agreed for Suarez?

If so it means that any further purchases will be at least partially funded by outgoings. Borini, Lucas, Assaidi, Alberto, Reina and Coates could all potentially generate another £40m quite easily, which would leave us in a fantastic position to make a couple of classy defensive signings and still be better than breaking even on this season's transfers.

Perhaps we will be able to afford Isco after all. Would love to see him in a Liverpool shirt.

The numbers mentioned in the media, is only the price for the player. You´ll need to add vat, tax, agent fees, legal fees etc.
I don´t know how much money LFC have spend, but I´m sure it´s above the £68m you mention.
Furthermore, Isco is a fantastic player, but since we have Lallana, Sterling, Coutinho, Ibe, Markovic and Suso, we will most likely not be looking at another AM.

Expect Remy, Perhaps Lovren, and a LB. Getting your hopes up for a world class player, will most likely disappoint you in the end.

20 Jul 2014 14:35:57
Same mate would love see Isco playing for Liverpool.

We don't get all the money up front for Suarez nor will we pay full fees up front so your point is moot unless you know the exact fees in and out we've payed?

Add on you're conveniently forgetting wages? I'm fairly sure all them players will cost more in wages than just Suarez!

Remember Wages play a part as well; I'm sure the 5 players wages are greater than Suarez's wages were.

It would be good to off load some players that are not going to be playing (for their good as well as ours).

20 Jul 2014 15:22:25
RedFuzz, surely expecting a World Class signing and getting Lovren is fairly close to the mark? he's top quality. Moreno I have not seen much of personally but I hear he's quality too.
Were getting up there with the big boys in terms of signings again!

So in essence you're saying FSG have not given a budget to brendan only the sale money from suarez?

There should be atleast another 70-90 million available after the borini aspas and assaidi sales

Whether that is used in this window or january window or if at all remains to be seen

Why is everyone going on and on about budgets? It has been made crystal clear, time and again, LFC do not work that way. We have no set budget, no set limit. If we want a player it goes to the committee they sit down and work out what we think he is worth, we then try to buy said player. If they ask too much (a la Moreno/Miki) we walk away! Maradona what he was trying to say is you are grossly underestimating the hidden add ons in a transfer deal. This cash is not just small money it amounts to millions. You also have to take in to account we have sold one player who was on about 200000 a week. We have brought in a lot of players who collectively will earn more than that sum. That is also taken into account when considering purchases. The eds might shoot me for mentioning all this, but it gets annoying to read, and all this is searchable on here as well!

20 Jul 2014 12:14:18
Morning Ed,

Out of all the targets set by Rodgers or transfer committee how many have we actually acheived?
I know strength in depth is our main priority with c/l n prem main focus BUT we also require quality n top class defensive players which we do not currently have in numbers.

Cheers

{Ed001's Note - they will have set out with hundreds of potential targets, probably 10 or so for each position, so they will never get near achieving them all. No club ever does.}

20 Jul 2014 11:49:03
Edd001, and fellow reds who would you say is.our best.player within the squad? I would say lallana IMO

{Ed001's Note - not sure how you can pick one, there is no player that stands out like a Dalglish in this group.}

He's not touched a ball for us yet. How can he be our best player?

We now don't have a world class player,, but we have a world class manager

Suarez over shadowed everybody last season new look team now time for someone to stand up

I think sterling has the potential to be the stand out player but he needs to carry on progressing how he did last year.

Yes DEZYBOY 100% correct its time the players like Allen, suso, borini, coates, and GJ n pepe all started to earn there wages n prove they r the players we need to go to next level!
Either get it going or go elsewhere.
The next level is here n starts now!

From what I seen at Southampton I believe he will be one of out best players atleast. Sturridge should have a great season if injury free

World class manager? A bit ott in my opinion. At least let him win a league first.

20 Jul 2014 12:06:32
According.to Duncan castles( sports journalist for the sunday times) remy.will be on over a 5million per year.salary. that's 100k a week roughly. Alarm bells are certainly ringing. People.including myself thought 8million.plus was a good deal but the lad has huge wages. I actually think he's on more than sturridge

He's a mercenary who just goes around picking up high wages and signing on fees. If Rodgers can change his attitude he could be a very good player. I'll never like him as a human being though.

20 Jul 2014 12:23:20
NO he won't be if you are correct about the 100K a week

Haha it's Nonsense mate He wants around £80K a wk but Liverpool want him on £60K a wk with performance related bonuses.

Can't see that personnally but you never now.

Maybe he coming with reus next week.

Id like to think its wrong

20 Jul 2014 13:43:05
Ems,

I may be wrong but not sure he falls under the mercenary category. As far as I am aware he came through Marseilles system, transferred to qpr who got relegated and then spent the season on loan at Newcastle?

20 Jul 2014 14:02:36
We're clearly only buying him because we want Benzema to feel familiar with our attacking line-up when we get him as well.

He doesn`t. Actually, Remy came from the Lyon system before going to Lens, Nice and then Marseilles. He has made some bad decisions hence, the bad rep that he has. If BR wants him, that means BR can work with him and make him better. He has the talent and the ability BUT just needs to work on his attitude on and off the field. Oh and another thing. If he had a bad attitude, he would have never seen the field at the WC because Deschamps is a strict disciplinarian who incidentally, managed Remy at Marseilles and brought the best out of him. I think BR and get him going again BUT he needs our support and calling him names will NEVER help.

Thats a fair point Red ohio. For the sake of the club, I'll support him. I'm all for giving people second chances. He'll only get one strike with me though!

Deal, EMS!

20 Jul 2014 12:07:46
I believe Borini has already bought his house in Sunderland.

So expect the move to happen.

Cheers

Macca

Nice to see you back lad!

Its a good move for all 3 parties involved. We get 14 million pound cash much needed to rebuild, Sunderland get a player who will work his socks off and kept them up last season, and Borini will finally get a chance to shine without the added pressure of needing to impress LFC fans. I can see the lad moving to a big Italian club in a couple of seasons after he impresses at Sunderland.

Best for all concerned if true. Too good a deal for us to lose out on.

Good luck Fabio, hope you do well up there.

20 Jul 2014 12:37:38
Thanks Macca

20 Jul 2014 12:37:52
Cheers Macca. I'm gutted if you're right :(

20 Jul 2014 12:38:08
thanks for update Macca

20 Jul 2014 12:38:24
Cheerz for the Info Macca!

Personally feel that Lambert & Remy in for Borini & Aspas is very good business as that will give us 3 quality strikers that are proven in the Epl and score goals.

Hopefully Lovren & Moreno come off but the Moreno deal seems to be dragging on far too long so it looks like we may have to look elsewhere but I hope its not Bertrand.

Best move for all concerned, but I wouldn't mind it if he decided to stay and play some CL football. Do think Remy's a good choice, either way.

20 Jul 2014 14:59:21
Thanks Macca - always good to see you on here with news.

I hope to see you back on shortly with maybe some Lovren news

20 Jul 2014 11:32:02
Alot seem to.forget about joe allen. I have big faith in the boy. he's only turned 24 an hendersons only 24. Allen is an excellent footballer who just needs the confidence to really excel. Him and texeira( if he stays) will be my surprise impacts this season.

I hope you're vright mate, technically very gifted but has major issues with confidence. If he gets game time and a little rub of the green he could really shine. Just not sure he will get a game, I would have hime and Henderson in the two deep midfield roles.

20 Jul 2014 14:04:20
I think it's very hard to call on Allen because he keeps getting injuries that set him back. When he plays for a few weeks or months consistently, he can be a real asset and a game changer. But we need to do something about the amount of time he spends on the treatment bench

Thanks brother

I love Allen and what he adds to the team. He will get his chances and if he stays injury free, he could really shine. I will always remember the City game under BR first season where he completely dominated Yaya Toure to the point of Toure saying that it was the most difficult game he`d ever played in at that time. That Joe Allen is still there IMO. He just needs to get going again.

20 Jul 2014 11:20:46
If Rodgers continues to work with Ibe to better his shooting we could have an incredible player on our hands. 18 years old, lightning quick, powerful and good controller of the ball. He will make mistakes, in the same way that Sterling did, but he has all the attributes to be a very, very good player. Ibe and Sterling attacking from each side in a couple of years time could be great to watch.

JFT 96

JP

Agree mate. Sterling, Ibe and Markovic will be the mainstays of our team for years to come. As long as there's a decent striker playing in front of them, we will be banging in the goals for fun.

In a perfect world we have a lot of very good young players suso ibe sterling can markovic texeira flanno wisdom kelly hendo allen god please half fill there potential there are even more young players there also

20 Jul 2014 14:06:53
I wouldn't be certain that the long-term plan for Ibe isn't to be that 'decent striker' in front of the others. Or Markovic. Sterling is the only one that I think can push up top but is likely to remain in the midfield in the long term

20 Jul 2014 10:45:14
Aside from a centerback and a leftback signing, would it be correct to say we aren't looking at any other targets? Thanks in advance Eds.

{Ed002's Note - No.}

20 Jul 2014 11:16:02
So there are no plans to bring in another keeper as has been suggested?

{Ed002's Note - Read it again. The collective IQ will be bottoming out soon.}

We've still got Reina

Haha Jaysus ed bit harsh but understandable I guess! People are getting worse!

20 Jul 2014 11:51:09
Got it Ed. That'll teach me to skim read.

20 Jul 2014 10:12:32
Hi eds and fellow reds!

I have just seen us linked with isco again just wondering if you can shed some light on the matter my guess is its nonsense but u never know rodgers did promise us two big signings lallana and? .

Thnx in advance.

Danny

{Ed002's Note - You don't consider Vidal, Pogba and Reus "big" signings then?}

20 Jul 2014 11:09:57
give him a break man!

Are u just assuming ed? Of corse they would be big signings but u have rubbished them claims and wanted to know if there was any truth to the claims?

{Ed002's Note - UTSF.}

Learn to understand sarcasm mate.

20 Jul 2014 09:29:45
Morning eds hope your all fit and well.its funny I thought we would have sorted out are defence 1st when the transfer window opened rodgers needs to sort out the back line.dont get me wrong I'm loving are new signings and how rogders is letting go of the players his 1st signed that have not made it.suarez was never going to make the grade haha, all the best super suarez ynwa.are young guns are looking good keep it going boys.ed do you see any of agger, skirts, or glen leaving in this window.I would like to see us go for some one like shawcross to come In at the back, him and the sack at the back would give us some real steel to deal with set pieces and Crosses.OR get the deal for lovren over the line, Agger and skirts have never been able to deal with set pieces and Crosses for me to much panicking for them both.thanks eds.win lose or draw i'm lfc for life, red till dead.cant wait for the new season. . .

20 Jul 2014 02:26:05
Hi Eds

Great info from you in this busy time. Quick question if you would, Sturridge, Remy and Lambert, do you know of LFC being linked with or considering to purchase any other forwards this transfer window?
Thanks

{Ed001's Note - Markovic ring a bell???}

Man how many forwards do we need?provided the remy snd Borini deals go through
we would have
Suso Jesus Fernandez (not so sure about the order of the names perhaps ed 001 could help know he is a big fan of suso)
Adam Lallana
Raheem Sterling
Philipe Coutinho
Lazar Markovic
Rickie Lambert
Daniel Sturridge
for 4 positions upfront provided we play a 4-2-3-1

{Ed001's Note - I can't keep up with putting my own names in order, let alone anyone else's!}

No Ed but Quasi Modo does

{Ed001's Note - *groan*}

20 Jul 2014 09:37:03
Rodgers as said this summer that he wants four strikers so we could still be in the market for another after Remy and if Origi goes back on loan.

{Ed002's Note - Borini, Sturridge, Lambert? I am actually surprised no effort has been made for Pedro.}

We don't need any more attacking players we have it covered, are back line needs the make over.lfc for life

20 Jul 2014 10:08:42
And if Borini goes as the club have obviously made it clear he is free to leave?

{Ed002's Note - Markovic can play centrally. I f Liverpool buy Origi, send him on loan and then buy to replace him, it will be further wasting money the club does not have.}

I still feel we need another pacy winger to stretch defenses, as two (Sterling and Markovic) I feel really isn't enough. Sometimes we play a bit too narrow and if you look at other top EPL teams like Arsenal and Chelsea they have several.

20 Jul 2014 10:56:04
Cheers ed2 so a left back and centre back will conclude our business I should imagine after origi and Remy? Any latest on Lovren or our left back situation?

{Ed002's Note - Nothing happened overnight.}

20 Jul 2014 03:42:52
How has John Bradley not got a job commentating for one of the big networks, he's definitely the most knowledgeable out there, not just tactics and stats but his knowledge of the personnel, geography and history.

20 Jul 2014 08:06:07
Because his voice is cringe

20 Jul 2014 10:21:11
Yeah johns knowledge is excellent I remember him being asked about 3 years ago who we should sign and he said James Rodriguez, oh if only the powers that be had have listened .him and Suarez in the same team.

James was already the property of FC Porto and even Fergie wanted to sign him but Porto wanted 35m so he backed off. He was already out of our reach at that time so your post of "the powers that be should have done this or that" is pointless.

20 Jul 2014 23:05:23
That's ok red you have your opinion I have mine let's respect that I'm sure there was plenty of money wasted in this period on players not good enough for Liverpool when 35m on this kid was a bargain as it stands.

20 Jul 2014 02:12:32
I really think based on some of the excellent views on here ye really should rock up at melwood wit a CV next year. cause ye obviously know better than the man who took us from 7th to with in an inch of winning the league with a squad that should not of finished no better than 5th. ye ungreatfull bunch. Brendan Rodgers is the best thing to happen to LFC in the last 20 yrs .

I agree that Rodgers is fantastic however this is a banter site so you should be prepared for sofa managers or people who have contrasting views to Rodgers.