Liverpool Banter Archive July 20 2013

 

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20 Jul 2013 21:42:28
We should try and sign Cabye!

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Do you mean cabbage?

The real AG

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No he means Kebab!

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Kebab wasn't it

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Kebab? Kinnear?

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21 Jul 2013 09:23:02
U mean Johan kebab lol

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I know his sister Donna very well

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20 Jul 2013 21:14:00
Suarez in my view is now to be regarded as more of a "Pantomime Villain".
The sooner he departs (and we get good money for him), the better for the club, players, supporters and fans.

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Shame you didn't do it ages ago he didn't deserve your loyalty

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Oh no he's not!

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21 Jul 2013 09:37:37
Pardoe.

and you wanna guy him at 35 mill?. don't you. since your front three won't score goals as compared to suarez alone.
Jesus.

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Oh no he isn't!

Sorry :)

MIKEY

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How can a corpse be once dying? Wouldn't it have to be dead?

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20 Jul 2013 20:56:24
I don't rate BR, I think he's come too early for our club and he talks up himself too much and he is very naive.

I am concerned that the spine of the club will be gone - reina, Agger, Lucas, Suarez. And it appears we didn't even get to speak to MH. !

What are the management doing!?


It's going to be a long season . We have bought squad players not top first teamers!


Top 4 - no chance!

Players are just employees ust we need to replace those who leave with top players. We posture but seemingly make no progress!


FSG did spend big and do pay top dollar. But a manager needs to be big enough to attract top players! He has no reputation at all!

If Suarez goes to Arsenal, then he is an absolute DF, BUT I reserve judgement on him whilst he is still our player. !

We have a global support and are being let down .!

So I say - we make a push this season - we need three players of top quality - otherwise we will languish and become at giant that has lost it's strength.

It isn't folly to think that we can push into the CL with the current team. That's the reality

M

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Sorry I didn't realise that the transfer window had closed.

dannyMAC

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I disagree. I think we have a competitive squad with several attacking options. If we can secure a good central defender and midfielder we will be top 4 contenders this year. Our young players looked great today, especially Ibe and Sterling.

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Seriously mate you lot are sounding like chelsea "sack your manager" every 5 minutes there is only one way you will get to the top, Oh wait 2

1 stick with a manager more than 5 minutes

2 Make Dr Emmett Brown your next manager (Back to the future for the clueless)

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Sorry but this 'M' is a joker. A lot of hot air & criticism but nothing else. Instead of creating 'problems' that don't exist, what about solutions & your ideas. Enlighten us with your superior knowledge and intellect. As the Aussies would say " you flamin' gala".

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Oh no! Reina agger and lucas! Who else will help us finish 6th 7th 8th and 7th in a row

Get with the times they are overrated apart from suarez

Reina is so world class no 1 wants him apart from a loan, funny that isn't it

We went from konchesky poulsen cole carroll jovanovic to coutinho luis alberto iago aspas sturridge

Just please give it a rest rodgers is doing a fantastic job in breathing life into a once dying corpse

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We're not in the position (financially nor league-wise) to buy top first teamers, or at least not my interpretation of what you likely mean by that.

LFC is a big club, no doubt about it, but we play in a league with 4 clubs who make more money and have larger wage bills than we do currently and thus things will be difficult moving forward. It's not impossible for us to push into the top 4, but we're simply not going to be able to do it by buying 'marquee', 'top' or whatever euphemism you prefer to use type players. Expect more like Coutinho, Sturridge, Aspas, Mignolet, etc. to come in- none of whom I'm guessing you think are 'top' players but all of whom I think are quite good and have a little something to prove.

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20 Jul 2013 20:46:29
Take a look at the photos from todays game on the LFC website. Astonishing support.

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Love the picture of the JFT96 banner backlit by flares. Absolute beauty.

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20 Jul 2013 20:45:53
Did anyone see who was captain during the second half?

Redjinal

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I think agger

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20 Jul 2013 20:18:04
Just seen the photos of Indonisa, it as more like Anfield than Anfield!
Just like Anfield in the 'old days'
Absolutely fantastic.
Over 80000 fans!
I bet you will not see any of it in the main media. Might upset the 'Man U are the best' hype and people see who really are the best supported club.
A TRUE people's club
YNWA
JFT96

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All you fellow reds who call anyone not from Liverpool out of towners it doesn't matter where you're from support for your team is in your heart.

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Told you, not a word in the media.
Just one 'are Liverpool a bigger club than Ajax'!
Pathetic, must be paid by Man U
5 stars
JFT96

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Surprise, surprise, Express says there was on 50,000 fans there.
I wonder where the other 30,000 went
Their journo's must have left 1 hour before the game started?
Don't upset the media myth about Man U, its taken years to create it.
JFT96

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That was a proper atmosphere! The Liverpool fans who go to Anfield every week could learn a thing or two!

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20 Jul 2013 19:49:34
Hai Ed. great work.

Jakartha Liverpool fans banners and Quotes

". How Can I think of leaving Liverpool Fc After this night. Gerard CL 2005."

". Whose better than Us?. GOD says None. ". with the picture of fowler.

". We are not English. We are Scousers. "

". We are the East of Anfield Nutties.
Our Lad comes from all over the place.
They talk dead Funny.
But the sing dead Great. "

Respect.

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Haven't got to see the game yet Harry but hearing lots of good reports of the support.

Great post man. Makes you feel proud hey.

Alfie

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20 Jul 2013 19:27:46
Think we definitely need a marquee striker, to only score two past them today when arsenal scored 7 is abit worrying.
Sack Rodgers now before its to late.

LAVERS

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Its a friendly! Please use your brain!

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Arsenal played Vietnam, we played Indonesia, so get your facts straight bud. We also hit the woodwork several times. Save your whiny posts for another site.

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20 Jul 2013 23:30:59
and Manchester United lost 1-0?
Relax man, the season hasn't even started yet

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Worst post in a long time. You clearly no nothing about football.

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Did you watch the whole game? Did you see the conditions? It should have been 4 or 5 but for some poor finishing/bobbling balls. Just relax. Rodgers is going fine, mate.

Andy K

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Don't forget Suarez is still a Liverpool player and we have Sturridge as well

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Wheres arsenals marquee striker?

Its only a friendly you muppet calm down

Anonymous woolback

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Is this Wind up fella?


.z.

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I think it would have been a bit disresptful to put 5+ past them. We've got to get players on the same page not crush teams in friendliest

-slim

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21 Jul 2013 06:43:42
Don't be an person. We were missing Suarez and Sturridge today and if Suarez leaves we'll bring in another good forward. Brendon is doing a good job.

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To the person saying; 'get your facts straight', Arsenal also played Indonesia, and put seven past them.

So you get your facts straight.

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Liverpool beat Newcastle 6-0. Two weeks later Arsenal could only beat them 1-0. Does that say something about Arsenal or Liverpool as you say this friendly does.

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To the guy who said get your facts straight, arsenal did hit 7 past Indonesia all stars/ dream team so stop being so critical of others and have a look in the mirror but you were right about scoring 7 against vietnam

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To the above post it means arsenal have improved now

LAVERS

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20 Jul 2013 19:03:44
Grandfather - Maradonna
Father - Aguero
Godfather - Messi

Good luck Benjamin Aguero

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Take up rugby lad. Nobody needs that pressure. Also feel sorry for any coach he plays for

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You never know, but somewhere there in between might be John Terry.

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Does he play for LFC?

If he doesn't I don't wish him any luck. Couldn't give a fig about other teams players

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Ben Aguero?

Andy K

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Quick, put a transfer request in now

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Special uncle - ken aguero.

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The John Terry comment above was first class! Haha

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Isnt he related to Ken as well!?

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20 Jul 2013 18:51:50
After watching the game today, I have to say the support we got was awesome from the Indonesia fans, it showed A few people on here how it should be done! The match itself was quite boring really, we struggled with the heat and created very few chances, hit the bar twice but let's not dwell on that, the fact is we won 2-0 and kept another clean sheet but one criticism I will say is I'm a little worried about our vulnerability on the counter attack, against a better team today we would of been punished, it was a problem for us last season and will be again next season unless we sort it out.

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20 Jul 2013 18:49:44
More of a question than a rumour, where is yersil at? Will.he be getting some 1st team action or is it still too soon and if so what's his progress been like?

Daniellambretta

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Was developing really well in the U21's before he did his ACL a few months ago. Probably won't even be fit for the start of the season, which is unfortunate because he was scoring goals for fun.

RedKopite

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20 Jul 2013 18:24:16
Good win and clean sheet on a terrible surface. Obviously wasn't the greatest performance but a win is a win. I only hope by the season starts Rodgers realises that both Ibe and Sterling offer much more of a threat than downing ever has or ever will do. I didn't see downing beat two players and then have the composure to play a well timed through ball which lead to a goal. It's a no brained in my view!

Thankyou

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Downing may not offer as much as a threat offensively than Ibe or Sterling, but he certainly offers more stability to the team in his defensive ability and his work rate. That's something invaluable in the system Rodgers is trying to implement, especially with full backs like Johnson and Enrique.
Daniel
YNWA.

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Downing only provides stability for the imbalance that Johnson creates.

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Rubbish sterling and ibe work just as hard defensively they just don't need to do as much bcos they dnt give the ball away as much

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Daniel is spot on.
Ibe and sterling would be better options against weaker oppositions who aren't going to pose a big attacking threat towards us. But Downing tracking back and work rate is very valuable against the big teams who have full backs who push on and will see a lot of possesion.

Jak

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20 Jul 2013 17:07:09
when or if suarez goes to australia can he play preseason because of ban {Ed001's Note - yes.}

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20 Jul 2013 17:02:53
When you look at last season, the brilliant results we had, goals scored, football played, gand honeymoon periods for players who became idols like sterling, enrique, johnson etc, and all the brilliant matches, how on earth did we finish seventh?

How many results did we throw away, how many individual mistakes made, bad luck or just plain lacklustre performances that should never had happened? If we had sturridge and coutinho from daay 1 we would have finished 5th. If we ironed out the bloody inconsistency in our team we could easily achieve top 4.

Anonymous woolback

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The phrase "rose tinted glasses" springs to mind.

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We had a bad start as BR was screwed for attacking options on deadline day. Plus he was instilling a new system. We picked up from January with Coutinho and Sturridge but still had a couple of strange losses in there as consistency was still not spot on. Think we only lost 1 of our last 13 or something though, so felt positive despite finishing 7th. Feels like it's coming together but we need a flying start this time around if we want to have a proper go.

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You could say the same for other teams like everton and tottenham tbh

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Yeah got to agree with you there. That's why I'm not surprised to see reina let go so easily, inconsistancy seems to have been a millstone round our necks for years now.

MIKEY

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Loads mate look at how many corners we conceded and silly mistakes. Without that and with the two January places fighting for top 4 100%

London red

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Fully agree with yah!

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Anonymous Woolback, we have the capability of undoing a lot of teams convincingly with the players we have and the style of football we play. However, we're flawed down the spine with a soft centre. We have no muscle and consequently we will always struggle against your west hams, stokes, west broms etc., I really believe bringing in Popodoplis would go half way to addressing this as the guys a beast, is capable of holding a high line whilst having the ability to recover. He would compliment the possession football Teds out to achieve whilst also bring some much needed muscle. Iloris will be a bad move.

Ozone

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20 Jul 2013 16:58:12
Arsenal scored 7 and we only get 2 lol.
Bet this will be the theme of the posts today.
So what?!
If we scored 8 it wouldn't mean we're better.
What I will say though is 2 clean sheets in two games is good and I was impressed with Sterling for the second game in a row.
Also, Ibe created the 2nd goal most impressively.
Only negative for me is our lack of height.
We'll score very little from indirect set pieces and concede quite a bit possibly if it's not addressed.
Come back Sami :)
7 out of 10 from me, not bad for only the second pre season game.

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I hate posts like this. "Bet this will be the theme" a little ironic as you mentioned the score difference, hense adding to the theme!

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That's right mate, but when all said and done if this was a league game we would both have 3 pts .and the arsenal game was a lot closer for 75 minutes .

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To the first person to reply.
Are you just a tad slow mate?
If the score difference wasn't mentioned then nobody would know what was being talked about now would they?
The point was, who cares what the score difference was but I bet someone would bring it up later on just to critisize something.
There's nearly always one person!
Sure enough "Lavers" has done so not long after, although i'm guessing with his tongue in cheek.
But you being one of those negative people, so determined to criticize didn't notice that did you?!
Get a grip man!

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20 Jul 2013 17:33:18
First off, well done to the Indonesian supporters- absolutely brilliant! Looks like a challenge has been set for those in Melbourne in a few days.

With respect to the all 'we're doomed without Pepe and FSG is pants' crowd- I really do wish you wouldn't hang on every single word said by BR and the owners. If you actually believed Reina would be around start of the season, then I worry for you. Admittedly a loan was probably not the desired outcome, but it's not easy to sell a player if there is no interest from a club they're interested in moving to permanently.

That said, Rodgers in particular does need to be much more careful with his language and learn the art of political speak a lot better so as not to be rightfully deemed a flaky lying weasel. Substitute 'Suarez will not be sold unless something drastic happens' with 'Suarez is a Liverpool player under contract and we expect him to meet up with the team in Australia' as an example and just leave it at that.

Also, thought Alberto looked very good today and fair play to Assaidi for giving a gift to Sterling after a fantastic run by Ibe. Oh, and thought Wisdom looked very good as well.

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I wouldn't say we are 'hanging on every word BR says', the simple fact is that he lied, as have many people on many occasions the whole way up through LFC hierarchy. No, it won't alter my support, but it doesn't stop it getting on my wick all the same. What bothers me most is that all the 'mis-truths' seem to be said to placate fans, which can't help make you feel like you're being taken for a bit of a mug. Ok, I understand certain things may have to be kept quiet for various reasons, but there is a difference between keeping your mouth shut and saying the exact opposite to what you end up doing. As I say, the club will always get my support, but sometimes it feels like they know it. On the bright side - good game today!

Nick

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I agree a bit Nick, which is why I said I think Rodgers needs to be very careful as he is indeed treading on that fine line between being positive and being a used car salesman.

As an example of people focusing too much on words though I now see people asking about who the 'exciting' player we're after is. Really?

Again, perhaps Rodgers could just say something more general like 'we are after players who we believe will improve the team' rather than using the word 'exciting' but at the same time I guess I'm just asking people not to get too hung up on the word 'exciting' either as it doesn't mean we've got a 'marquee' signing coming in.

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20 Jul 2013 17:29:56
Not a rumour, more of an observation:

All of you moaning about the Reina decision, do you really think he would sit on the bench for the whole season, and are we in a position to let a 100k a week player sit on the bench?

More than likely he has spoken with BR and said I want to be No1 otherwise I want to go. He can't go to Spain yet so he is going on loan for a year then at the end of the year he will be going to Spain

Not sure what everyones problem is?

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Bearing in mind Reina nearly joined Arsenal a couple of years ago, and was flirting with Barca this year, it made sense to get a replacement in. Not the clubs fault if his move falls through because of Valdez.
Think the loan is an inspired move - he always had his best form with Rafa and Valero - this way he recaptures it at Napoli and his value goes up more than if he was sat on our bench.

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20 Jul 2013 17:22:56
Who was the only player who was poor today? Oh, what a surprise, Fabio Borini. On the other hand Lucas, Toure, Agger, Mignolet, Alberto, Coutinho, Aspas, Steling, Ibe were excellent.

RedKopite

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Leave the poor kid alone!

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Do you think Boini is trying to hard?

One of the keys to scoring is being relaxed.

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I thought coutinho was distinctly average today tbh

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Rubbish. Coutinho was our best player. I could never be an Ed on this site with the drivel that gets posted.

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20 Jul 2013 16:35:39
80,000 Indonesians singing ' you'll never walk alone ".
brilliant!
Average performance in very hot, humid conditions, and a terrible pitch. But it's all about getting match fit, and we got the win anyway.Now for Melbourne!

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Those Indonesian fans are fantastic, makes you proud to be a Liverpool fan and shows you we are AT LEAST as popular as Man U (don't believe the media hype)
All these Trolls that infest this site CANNOT be Liverpool fans, just bitters or Mancs trying to agitate and stir it up
We support the best football club in the world.
Don't let the Bar Stewards grind us down
JFT96

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Dublin will be warm to our team as well even though its celtic we are playing . we still are a massive even though we are not in the champs league yet

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20 Jul 2013 16:29:42
Of course at this point performance doesn't mean too much, but the stand outs for me were Cou, Alberto, Sterling and Ibe. Toure and Agger looked solid again, Allen big improvement IMO and Aspas's all round play was good(apart from that miss ;-) ). Not going to mention any negatives as it was just good for the lads to get a run out and gel as a team, and experience the fans.

ynwa

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Fair comment Hullred.

Ozone

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20 Jul 2013 16:27:48
My 2 pence on the Reina situation. Maybe I'm playing Devils advocate or maybe just maybe i'm trying to glean some shred of intelligence out of this sorry debacle. Imagine the scene Mignolet is awful next season and way out of his depth. We have a world class keeper on his day in Reina still on our books and after a year gaining more experience in another league comes back rejuvenated having missed Liverpool which has been his home for 8 years? He will still be young for a keeper and we sell Mignolet for a decent fee. Oh I don't know Ian Ayre/FSG we were doing so well on the transfer front. Redeem yourselves get Ian on a plane to Brazil and sign Bernard, while your at it sign Messi, Neymar and Carlton Cole too

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We should have rid Reina last year. I don't what you people smoke but Reina is past it. Great servant for the club, probably the best goalie Liverpool ever had, but the lad is not himself for the past 3 years.
Mignolet is not out of this depth, he is far the better goalie from the two, he is solid makes amazing saves and he is very young and can still develop.

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''Best we ever had''?Uglygeordiegenius

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20 Jul 2013 16:20:19
Feel sorry for the fans that traveled thousands of miles to watch the team they support, and got all excited about it. Poor friendly

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No think it is wot it is a friendly in very hot weather! Big crowd great fans going mad with flags etc bad pitch very very hot 2 game into it clean sheet 2 goals ibe looked good Alberto looked like could be a very smart little player will need time sorry m8 but I think all in all it very good so far got to keep faith
Ynwa lfc linc

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People like u will always cry & whine they never be happy once.
red_canon

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What were you expecting 0-10?!?!?! It is our 2nd game of pre-season - get a grip

100% Red

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20 Jul 2013 16:15:20
Only a friendly today, but Jordan Ibe looks the real deal. Great feet, position, and initiative. He and Sterling have real ability and I see a bright future for both.

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Think they're both excellent, but I prefer Ibe myself - a little more direct. Give them both a couple more years and they'll be setting the league alight.

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20 Jul 2013 16:07:34
Sell Suarez get big money and spend it b4 season starts and it drags on, suspended anyway won't b as good and will go cheaper otherwise, tevez perfect example, i'm a big believer in sturridge anyway, will start the season v
Banging them in and get 20 easy for the season, is English and more loyal and better pro, ed? {Ed001's Note - I will just be glad to see the back of Suarez personally. Nothing but trouble.}

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20 Jul 2013 16:04:42
Borini is useless another air shot in front of goal.

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Oh leave it out man.

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HEY you try it!

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Think he just needs to settle and get a bit more confidence. He's still young, and has a great work rate and positional sense - just his confidence lacking. Not surprising when he's moved between clubs a lot and had a couple of bad injuries. Once he settles I think he'll be a solid 15 goals a year guy.

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20 Jul 2013 15:49:26
That was a mighty good finish from Aspas. Not! Awful Awful Awful miss!

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Some people will just complain about anything

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Come on! the ball bobbled up on a terrible pitch, just as he was about to hit it. didn't mention that did you?
The commentators and everyone else seemed to see it!

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The ball bounced as he eas about to hit it

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Did you not see the state of the pitch?

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Yes, sell him quick and buy Andy back who was prolific :o

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Not! Jayus that's a throw back from the nineties

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20 Jul 2013 21:52:10
Some people just enjoy moaning, its a pre-season game for pittance sake, 2-0 no injurys, in testing conditions on a terrible pitch, its all geared to Sat 17th august at 12:45, and stoke, start the season with a bang, hopely we'll know where we are with suarez, he's either in or we have found a decent replacement, with the other 1-2 signing coming in, all in all Exciting times ahead!
Also indonesian fans, EXCELLENT, and did your self and country proud, as it was last season in north america, Liverpool have the best home and world wide support! KOPITES RULE

Dhh L20 KOPITE

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20 jul 2013 15:47:07
suarez will stay at liverpool fc! watch this space. br will persuade him to stay at least one more season!

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I think this weekend is critical to the situation and by the end of the month, he will be at RM for cash plus player or more and more likely the Prodigal Son will repent and stay a Red.
I hope the later, he IS world class

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Seems rather unlikely to me. Just want it all over with to be honest.

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Hope yr right

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20 Jul 2013 15:44:24
Alberto looks like a real quality player downing looks very poor today want to see sterling and ibe come on nw,

On transfers the pepe to napoli deal makes sense like Ed02 said think he'll end up at athletico or barca next season

Hope suarez situation is sorted out quick and last point if agger does leave I hope we get 20 mil at least because he is one of the best ball playing centre backs in the world

Basy

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20 Jul 2013 15:26:15
Dissapointing to see Liverpools lack of movement in the market for any quality players, if where honest with ourselves then with man city, Manchester United and Chelsea having or going to sign better players the gap in quality has grown bigger between us already, it seems you have to spend big money just to finsh same place as last year, best we can hope for is to fight it out with arsenal and spurs to get 4th so that big players want to come because of champs lg, best option is to follow abramovichs vision at Chelsea last few years, buy young and quality, de bruyne, moses, curtois, kakuta, Oscar, think coutinho is one of them. In Brendan we trust

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Have to agree that the gap is growing wider. If Suarez is to move to Arsenal that pretty much puts an end to any hopes we had of making fourth. I cannot see us attracting players who are going to make enough difference to try and replace the void left by Suarez. With our current four signings I feel that only Aspas has really added to the squad with Mignolet and Kolo being straight replacements for Pepe and Carra. Will be tough to qualify for the Europa league with the likes of Swansea (who play much better football since brendan left) having strengthened well.

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Has the transfer market shut or something?

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And you know for a fact that Navas, Negredo and Jovetic are guaranteed to be succesful in the PL - none of those 3, or any other purchases by PL sides so far are what most people would say are world class. The stand out players in world football will not come to the PL.
Top La Liga, Bundesliga and Serie A players will go where the money and success is.

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We might aswell just close the club now, we have no hope of ever challenging for any trophies ever again never ever ever

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20 Jul 2013 15:06:23
all the older players, except lucas and agger are destroying rodgers work

swissred

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Tend to agree. Coutinho should be in the middle controlling things. He gets everyone playing at a faster tempo.

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20 Jul 2013 15:03:52
I must say the one thing i'm happy about; win, lose or draw is that we are using what looks to be our starting 11 together in preseason games! Rafa, roy and kenny both rotated so much that come the start of the league we were still trying to gel! At least brendan looks like her is trying to get the main team playing together and match fit asap!. I may be wrong as more games to play but looks promising!

Danski

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20 Jul 2013 15:01:44
Ed02,
FSG bought LFC at £300 mill if memory serves me right. Now, there's a lot of posters on here who keep trumpeting that FSG cleared the decks and saved us. As far as I'm concerned, if an individual or organisation acquires a property or business including assets where loans are secured against either assets or the business, then the purchase price either absolves the existing secured debt or the previous owners are left with the liability of picking up the tab for the difference should the purchase price not cover the secured debt. In addition, surely any unsecured debt will be saddled with he previous ownership under the repayment terms.

The question for Ed02, when posters say 'FSG cleared the debt', was this debt cleared through the purchase price or was it necessary for FSG to clear other debts through the terms of other unsecured business loans?

Ozone {Ed002's Note - It was cleared through the purchase price Ozone but there has since been debt added to the extent of about £115M. If the owners sell, this would be dealt with as part of the sale. It effectively makes their asset worth £115M less than any total valuation - like a mortgage on a house.}

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I think saying FSG saved the club is a bit over the top honestly but likewise I do think they have been quite supportive financially so have no complaints there at all. Personally I would like to see their efforts supported rather than rubbished as I don't think threats and protests are going to make them want to spend more on the club (especially since they're constantly reminded that they're not from Liverpool and know nothing about football). You catch more flies with honey and all that- make them feel welcome at Anfield again and perhaps they'll feel more a part of the LFC family rather than just being a wallet.

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21 Jul 2013 12:25:20
Thanks for the response Ed02.

Ozone

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21 Jul 2013 12:20:29
Ed02,
I am under the impression that fsg is able to juggle money between two interrelated companies which report to different stock holders. Perhaps there is an element of interest rates agreed upon which make juggling finances more profitable.

My concern is that in juggling debts that companies are able to make one business appear more or less profitable, and the profitability of a business is a factor considered in selling the business or in allocating bonuses to financial executives.

I don't know much about finance, particularly how laws in the UK work.

Can you please clarify the potential reasons for juggling and also point out what parts of my understanding are based on incorrect assumption?

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20 Jul 2013 15:01:10
Eds are any sides interested in Coutinho? What are your views on his role in the team this coming season? Thanks would appreciate a response. {Ed002's Note - I don't see Coutinho leaving nor his role changing much.}

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I'm certain there will be clubs interested in him next year, i'm confident he's going to be a big player for us this season,
it's important for us to get top 4 to keep players like him

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20 Jul 2013 14:59:39
As a lifelong supporter of this wonderful club, I'm shocked and ashamed by the way a section of our 'support' behaves sometimes. Lots of abusive messages being sent to Linda pizzuti today on twitter in response to her praising the passion of our support in Indonesia. It's disgusting that people behave this way, and in my opinion, will get all they deserve should the current owners sell up. Be careful what you wish for trolls.

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20 Jul 2013 19:00:25
probably a load of trolls but if it is Liverpool fans they need to catch themselves on what has this woman done to anyone but be easy on the eye.Tommy Irish red

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20 Jul 2013 22:33:01
I hope this is not true not a fan of twitter or Facebook things like this is why.
Lfc linc

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20 Jul 2013 14:47:10
How irritating is this commentator for the friendly though?
He has wrong information, old news & doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.
Anyway I'll have to put up with it to watch My Reds!
Good to see Coutinho on the scoresheet again!

Ashishe's Reds

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Kept on saying luis enrique obviously doesn't know much

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20 Jul 2013 14:41:19
1-0 Liverpool - Coutinho

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20 Jul 2013 14:36:35
Dont expect Suarez in Australia, he will be an Arsenal player soon will be in the region of £40 mill, will anouced just before Emirates Cup! Fairby.

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What did A&E say when you got the bang on the head, because the medication doesn't appear to be working.

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His in aus champ

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20 Jul 2013 14:26:52
Fantastic Indonesian fans are so passionate about our club and says its a religion to them. Really great to see.!

About time we put on a performance and for the management to sign top quality players so we can all celebrate getting back to the top.


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It shows those other clubs who really do think they are in same league as Liverpool (ie Spurs, Chelski, Arsenal, Man City, etc) that they have a very longway to go to be even near us
Thousand greeted us, 400 Arsenal, even less Man City. It is very clear that their fans and journo's are very jealous of LFC
Only Man U comes close to the most successful team in the history of English football
YNWA

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Well said! Great to c that support so many miles away big respect to them all!
Ynwa lfc Linc

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20 Jul 2013 14:22:36
So it looks like Reina is going to Napoli on loan for a season, it makes a lot of sense, we all know that mignolet is our no1 choice now! There is no point in keeping Reina to warm the bench on the wages he's on, let's hope that Napoli will be paying all of his wages, someone posted down the page about when after reinas loan is over that Athletico Madrid will need a goalkeeper because courtois will move back to Chelsea, well Reina has always said that he will move back to Spain and one of his dreams is to play for the club his dad played for and that's Athletico Madrid! So it looks like Reina has played his last game for Liverpool and I think he's been a great player for us and wish him well, thanks for the memories Pepe

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20 Jul 2013 14:18:00
Hey EDs,
do you think the most interest in an attacking player right now is in Dennis Praet? {Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer such questions - sorry.}

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20 Jul 2013 14:14:53
So what is the deal with Renia?, is he to be sold or will he wind down his contract? Still shocked he is on loan and not sold {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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20 Jul 2013 14:12:26
Hey Eds, Hope all is well with you guys. There are some rumors going on today about us bidding on Ben Arfa or that we are about the bid for him. any truth in that? tried the search engine before asking my question {Ed002's Note - I have no knowledge of a bid or impending bid right now.}

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20 Jul 2013 14:07:31
So Suarez is due back on Monday then eh?
It will be interesting to see if he joins the lads or not. if not, then there's a deal in place, or he will refuse to join the team, in which case be fined up to 2 weeks wages?

I think Monday is going to be a very, very interesting day for us all.

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20 Jul 2013 14:00:22
For anyone doing premier league fantasy football this year I have just created a new league called Only dons allowed, I'm hoping for as many people to join as possible. The code to get in is: 227649-68276.

Lil Red

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20 Jul 2013 13:53:49
I agree that he's past his best (imo) that's why I think we should sell. Loan to buy at least. I honestly don't think he'll go to Barca - my understanding is that Barca want Ter Stegan as number 1. Reina will prob end up at Atletico Madrid when Cortious moves back to Chelsea.

Cheers
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20 Jul 2013 13:30:28
stupid decison to loan out Reina in my opinion! Why not hold out for a sale there's over a month left in the window! The extra 8/10 million would have been welcomed no doubt.

Pepe's chance of going to Barca diminished when Valdes decided to stay. Ed02 has noted repeatedly Ter Stegen is Barca's long term replacement so his time will come next summer it seems. Napoli have the money, we should have pushed for a sale end of. If they wouldn't have taken it then I'm sure there would have been other interested teams. The only reason I can fathom is that Reina wants a move back to Spain and with the Athletico spot being filled currently he has to bide his time, but that is pure conjecture on my part.

In regards to the Arsenal situation I am disgusted as to how badly Suarez is treating this club, planning to use the £2m due to him as leverage and trying to force the move, if correct, what a person!

On a brighter note I'm looking forward to the game! Haha

I'm not a negative poster but had to vent that sorry guys!

The A man. {Ed002's Note - The Atletico point is a good one with Courtois leaving next summer.}

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Ed why oh why are the club doing this. It is like what redknapp said about ceaser what is the point in loaning him? What is the point in loaning pep. If he is not wanted get rid what is the point of a loan?

Frog. {Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}

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20 Jul 2013 14:30:45
The most likely reason for not holding out for a sale, is that a sale is not guaranteed. To have both mignolet and Reina at the club at the same time is not only bad for the players, as one will have much reduced playing time, but also bad for the club as there is a great deal of cash going to waste on the wages of a player who is not needed. At this point in a window where interest in keepers seems to be low, a loan seems a good idea to me, as it prevents us having to sell at a reduced fee to get him off the books at the very end of the window. Also, he's a lot less likely to attract interest if he hasn't played football for a year.

This is different to QPR's Cesar situation simply because he is still QPR's first choice keeper by a long way, and keeping him is a better option for them, because he will play consistently. Mignolet was a country mile better than Reina for most of last season and is one of few reasons Sunderland are still in the premier league. He will most likely start.

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100% agreed with Alvy.

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Agree with what you say Alvy just thought the club could have held out a little longer to see what other options could have been available in regards to a sale, there is little keeper movement at the moment as you say though so fair point.

Just would have preferred the funds for us to use though Reina's wages not being on the books will benefit us no doubt.

The A man.

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20 Jul 2013 13:19:02
I'm totally fine with the loan deal for Pepe aslong as Napoli are paying 100% of his wages.

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20 Jul 2013 13:17:39
Cant wait for k.o Buzzin to see the team play and also good to see stevie back earlier than we thought. c'mon pool(dnt care that its only pre-season) i'm like a fat kid in a sweet shop. So glad the new season is only just round the corner! ( A positive post for all the nay sayers to cringe over) LOL!

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Buzzin with a strong line up too!

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Southern red . Where in my post does it say I'm scared . You might need to leave the light on so you can see what your reading

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To mr nameless, in your post all you did was scrutinize over possible player outgoings and predict that we will struggle to finish in the top half(lmfao)! that smacks of insecurity!

Not once did you mention that IF those players do leave that the club will replace with quality and possibly already have!?

Nowhere in your post does it say you are scared but you do seem very concerned that lfc can't wipe its own bum!

Im interested to know who these "top top players" you have in mind are exactly?

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20 Jul 2013 13:09:58
Eds fellow reds, this could turn out quite bad for us not only are we struggling to get any top top players in, reina, Suarez and at least one central defender on there way we might well fall very short this next season .top 10 could be hard to get . {Ed002's Note - Reina has already been replaced.}

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"Could turn out to be bad" well there is maybe the most insecure post I've seen in a while! Really mate if your that scared maybe you should leave the light on next time you post!

Southern Red

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20 Jul 2013 13:07:12
Quick question for the Ed's. Will Napoli pay all/some/none of Reina's wages for the coming season? {Ed002's Note - RTP.}

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20 Jul 2013 12:56:07
Apparently we've put a bidin fr Bernard?

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Its weather or not it gets accepted as we've probably put in a low offer again

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20 Jul 2013 12:54:33
If we sell Suarez to arsenal we will never be in the top 4 we will be selling our best player to the only team we could try and catch for a top 4 place.

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20 Jul 2013 12:54:27
From the arsenal rumours site yesterday.

Ed02 says that "Suarez's agents have taken legal advice and will seek to have Arsenal match the clause that allows the player to discuss the transfer with Arsenal as soon as is possible. They will then look to leverage a legal position to stop Liverpool blocking the transfer and will possibly use the £2M due the player as an incentive to facilitate the transfer."

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20 Jul 2013 12:46:58
seriously folks what's with the crying about reina leaving, did any off you actually see him staying once we had signed mignolet really time to move on he has looked pretty stale at the club for a few years now and if the napoli deal is the only one on the table then why not take it

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Well it was obvious her be going, the main outrage is he's going on loan, that makes no sense for Liverpool

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Don't agree with the 'looked pretty stale' but agree that neither would be happy on the bench.

You just have to accept the fact that Reina wants to move for regular football to prepare for the World Cup and to replace Valdes at Barca next year

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20 Jul 2013 12:44:51
Whhy are people finding it so hard to find the reina loan?

He will be 2nd choice here, so we don't want someone to earn £110,000 a week when they won't play.

He has his heart set on a move to Barcelona next summer so no other club will move for him.

He will go on loan and be 1st choice which will stop his price reducing and save us money this season.

Its the best solution to the situation.

RedPJ {Ed002's Note -

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20 Jul 2013 12:40:46
Hi eds, I was wondering if the loaning of coady any impact on other transfers as now we only have Lucas as a defensive midfielder at the club so would we be any more likely to go after another holding midfielder or not. Thanks, thedat {Ed002's Note - Clubs do not buy players to replace those sent on loan.}

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20 Jul 2013 12:12:03
what does lfc get out of letting pepe go to napoli on loan.
we owe napoli nothing and they have cash

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Liverpool are pathetic when buying and selling players. We are a walk over the laughing stock of English football.

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20 Jul 2013 11:56:37
why don't you all calm down, pepe has had his best years at our club he is not going to get any better and now he has competition he wants to leave, he has not been that good over the last few seasons any way, let's give mingolet our support . I was once suarez's biggest supporters, but if he wants to go let him I would rather have a player who wants to play for the shirt and the fans and the club, any team could have a team full of world beater but a team that plays as a team is better than individual world class players lok at man city, and we have showed that we can win without suarez in the last few games of last season and we scored a good few goals, so stop moaning and get behind Liverpool football club, that's if your a fan

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20 Jul 2013 11:56:30
a source inside Barcelona tells me there is already a verbal agreement to buy Reina next season (didn't mention how high a fee, but I would guess around the £5M mark since he will have less time left on his contract). THAT'S why this loan deal with Napoli is happening for a player they can easily sell. they may be daft, but they are not that daft. so that's 4M saved in wages this season, and £5M as a fee next season, which pays for Mignolet. {Ed002's Note - Liverpool has no agreement with Barcelona to sell Reina next year.}

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20 Jul 2013 11:52:34
Wow, br comes out an says we have only missed out on one target(Mickey)so we were never really in for all the supposed targets.he expects 1 or maybe 2(maximum, don't hold your breath)before deadline day.

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20 Jul 2013 11:47:16
The transfer window started off positvely for us - made somegood squad signings, got good prices for the players we bought, sold off a couple of players which have more or less offset the transfers we have made already (excluding all the extras such as agent fees, VAT, etc etc) and looked good. It is now starting to take on a wearily familiar feel.

Reina going out on loan is the first big mistake in my opinion. He was not at his best last season but is never the less a top goalkeeper who could of been expected to command a fee of roughly 10million pounds. Instead we are loaning him. His value can only really decrease and as we don't seem to be mega rich this move makes little sense.

We also have unfolding what seems destined to be a drawn out, ugly transfer saga involving Suarez. Bottom line is this is going to get ugly and probably not resolved until the transfer deadline is almost finished. This is bad as it means the transfer fee we may have to accept will be, maximum 40million (a price I don't think reflects Suarez's true worth) and will leave us with limited time to bolster the squad. I know we have signed Aspas but the first team still needs strengthening and I suspect without money from the Suarez transfer we are not going to be able to make many significant signings.

We missed out on our "top target" in the words of Rodgers. Not exactly ideal although not catastrophic providing we bring in someone else of suitable quality.

All in all the good feeling from a few weeks ago regarding our transfers and this season is fast disappearing. I really hope all our business is concluded a good few weeks before the transfer window shuts and I hope the board does back Rodgers. I like his philosophy and the team he is constructing, I think he needs financial if we harbour serious ambitions at challenging the CL places. It will be an interesting month, I hope we emerge from it with more positives to talk about than negatives.

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Income ticket sales all season pys players wages kit sopnsor standard chareted . then warrior kit makers we also have premiership money witch s more than sponsorship money. then we have merchindice all over the world in a vary vary big way in counties names u can't even prenounce . then wehave tv right from uk then . in many diffrent continents we also have tv deals now i'm no fool nither are a mojority of Liverpool fans each year how much do we make its a humunguse number and a mega profite for an american compony were the dollor is alost half the value of the pound that's the only reason the yonks are here people don't forget how ruthless these yonks are to the last ones they stole the club from the previouse owners for buttons thatshow good they are at buisness the profit they make of my club and your club wow eds who defend them wow really

{Ed002's Note - Ozone, another Press Release you have drafted for the Spirit of Shankly?}

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Lol Ozone dumbing down his vocab because most posters who are half intelligent can see through his bs propaganda.

cozinoz

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They're obviously better at business than you are at spelling or grammar my god I don't think any off what you said makes any sense!!

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Ed did you mess with his spelling or is it really that bad? Haha

MIKEY

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20 Jul 2013 15:58:48
No offence but rippin someone over their grammar is a little snobbishness and can be pot calling kettle black, on some occasions. I've had it done to me and it ****in winds me up no end. Your better then that Mikey.

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20 Jul 2013 11:46:32
Hi eds and reds,

Just wanted to say, I think we all need to calm down on the whole Reina loan issue. Mainly because it's not an issue at all. I see people moaning about how we should keep him or sell him, yet we can't sell him if no one makes an offer to buy. And we can't keep two keepers like him and Mignolet, one or both would end up getting sick of dividing the duties. So IMO a loan isn't too radical.

Also, why are people blaming FSG? This is a managerial call. You don't think John Henry sits in his office and tells Brendan who goes where?

Speaking of the manager. I understand that some of you are mad at him for 'lying' to you. Well I'm sorry, but I don't see the need for transparency, especially when more than just Liverpool fans will be watching. You want him to say 'yeah we don't want Luis or Pepe, they can go.' That lessens the room for getting a better deal if people know we don't want them. Use your noggins please.

I know this may have come across as a rant, but I'm sick and tired of seeing the same stuff every transfer window on this site. Fans develop attachment to one player, we don't sign them, then every gets out their lynching ropes and six-shooters and heads to anfield for a public beheading of whichever manager is in charge. How about once. Just once we sit quietly and wait to see what happens.

Cheers eds.

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20 Jul 2013 11:41:47
So how is reina going on loan to napoli good news, bar us saving money on wages, which quite frankly is a pathetic excuse i'm getting tired of hearing now, we were told we need 2 world class keepers to challenge for the top spot, for this to happen you have to pay the wages, this constant costcutting is getting ridiculous now! Why oh why would we even consider loaning reina? If mignolet gets injured, then what?? Jones again is it, not good enough i'm afraid! Please tell me eds would we or are we considering bringing in another goalkeeper as cover for mignolet? Not impressed with how Liverpool have dealt with the reina situation, if napoli wanted reina, then inform them they must buy him, otherwise jog on! Simple! Sorry but we need to look at the way we handle transfers! Rant over!

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Useless rant as well - if you don't want to read or hear what is going on - there is an on/ff button on your TV, PC or radio.
Reina has been nothing short of average for the last 3 years at least, he also wants to leave, so what exactly is your problem with the club? your problem should be with Reina, you also sound like a financial genius - lose 4 million in wages is not pocket money.

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20 Jul 2013 11:41:03
With Reina looking like he is off and Suarez to follow FSG are doing a fine job in getting rid of any high earners, I'm sure if SG was younger they would be trying to move him on as well.

For me not good signs once again from FSG, I can understand from a business point of view in trying to reduce the wage bill but not from a football one.

If we don't sign any further players yet allow the good ones to leave we will be even more less attractive to players.

I trust BR to do his best and think he will do well this season but I cannot see us getting near the top 4 with our current side. It simply doesn't have the quality anymore.

FSG still haven't don't anything out of the ordinary to take the club forward. {Ed002's Note - Both players want out of the club - that is nothing to do with the owners. You must be dumb as a box of rocks.}

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20 Jul 2013 14:20:56
Ed02 both players want out as they realise that LFC have no real hope of getting back in the top 4 and CL any time soon. We can no longer either compete for top class players or hold on to the few we have. Whose next Agger? Next year Coutinho? Unless FSG invest in players who can immediately improve the first XI and satisfy our current players as well as the fans that we can compete then this is going to be a regular problem

{Ed002's Note - Players are transients, they come and go. It happens. The owners have invested in players since the day they arrived.}

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20 Jul 2013 11:06:57
Ed002, if you are around I would appreciate your thoughts if you have time on a couple of issues although not directly Liverpool related.

Do you see;
1. The issues with the timing of the 2022 World Cup in Quatar raised by the Premier League and
2. the growth of football clubs, in particular in terms of spending power by the likes of PSG, Monaco, Bayern compared to their compatriots in their respective Leagues.

accelerate the move to a "European super league"?

Although personally against the idea whilst understanding the lack of money filtering down leagues there seems an increasing number of issues that point this way, pay problems in Portugal, Debt in Spain/England, rising costs, lack of money spread throughout leagues, amongst others. {Ed002's Note - (1) No, the pan-European vision that many clubs share will not be taking the 2022 World Cup in consideration when they meet at the tail end of August. (2) I am not sure that I really understand the question. The eventual move to a pan-European format will include the "leading" clubs from different countries - the income that the new structure can generate will be of far more interest than the actual spending power of individual clubs. Aside from one particular club's owner, all clubs will have owners who want to see the clubs be financially self-sufficient.}

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Thanks for the response. I meant that the spending power of a couple of teams has almost alienated themselves from the remainder of the league teams, for example PSG/Monaco (possibly lyon) compared to the rest of their league. From an observation point of view it appears this idea of a Super League of some sort is accelerating with the various issues around Europe.

Richards {Ed002's Note - That will always happen - as it has in the past. Manchester United earn a lot more money than other EPL sides so have more to spend. Manchester City have owners who are happy to spend what it takes. The income for the new structure is what everyone cares about. A number of the clubs will be discussing such issues when they meet at the end of August.}

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20 Jul 2013 11:32:02
Valdes has one more year at barca, surely its better we loan pepe to a champions league side for a season rather than let him get less game time on the bench, before a world cup year mignolet needs the first team football to try and beat courtois, also pepe will get a chance to play at the highest level meaning other clubs except barca may take interest when he comes back.

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20 Jul 2013 11:27:54
Not too bothered about reina going. High wages, average over the last few seasons and we have a replacement. He is still under contract so we well get a belated fee.

I am more concerned with suarez to arsenal, which will stengthen them no end.

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20 Jul 2013 11:27:02
Things are not well fellow fans!
I am all for supporting BR but Reina to go on loan? Then what? His value would be halved and once again our club has proved they buy expensive and sell cheap!
Marquee signing are not going to happen. We have signed good squad players and wasted 10M on a goalkeeper while we had a better one already. Where is the business sense in that? Or is it because experienced pros like Pepe see things we don't see? I'm sorry, my friends, but I'm so confused. I'm so worried about the coming season and dread hearing BR blurt out ' the squad is young and need to gel together!'
One more season out of top4 ( it already sounds like never never land! How low have we fallen?') and we will have become a middle of the table team competing for 9th - 6th position. Are we surprised Suarez wants to leave? English press and now CL football. do we blame him, really? And anyway, how can he come back now? Do we want him to come back? And who are we buying with the money from his sale? Who's coming to Liverpool? I hope I am the most wrong fan in PL and we start the season with or without 'Lashee' (Suarez), and win our first few games and really go for it, attacking teams as was promised.
Let's hope so. but marquee signings? Don't hold your breath fellow fans! If Agger goes then he would be one of the last of the team Rafa built and our castle is comiong tumbling down!
I SO MUCH HOPE I AM WRONG! YNWA

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20 Jul 2013 11:47:38
we still have lucas agger johnson skrtel, so no he ain't one of the last. and why would you call it benitez's castle? get out of the past and into the future! the majority of Liverpool fans all season were saying how reina had to go, how he'd lost his form, now we've sent him on loan its a disgrace? makes me laugh.

at the end of the day a true fan will rock and roll with the times and back the manager and his plans. mignolet will make us stronger than reina has the last couple of seasons.

grow up

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Jayus what's with everyone, we all knew that he was leaving when we signed Mignolet, so what's the differance him going out on loan or leaving now or next year he's not our number one anymore and we can't expect him to sit on the bench. because he isn't a number two and deserves to playing as a number one.

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20 Jul 2013 11:37:48
Why are we sending reina on loan do we not need money?

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20 Jul 2013 11:35:36
Hi ED'S great work on this site, i'm a huge fan of what you guys are doing here. I was just wondering if you could spare a second out of your busy schedule to say who you believe Liverpool will sign? there's lots of rumours but just wanted your opinion?

thanx chris {Ed030's Note - Things can change a lot mate and should I give an opinion on who I think should sign the trolls will be out in force,Sorry. }

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20 Jul 2013 10:31:56
eds I have 2 questions its a matter of opinion on behalf of yourself. do you expect luis suarez to be at arsenal or do u think elsewere? and are Liverpool doing everything they can to stop him joining another epl club? cheers mate {Ed030's Note - Elswhere,Madrid remains the most likely destination. }

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20 Jul 2013 11:06:24
Strong rumours of players plus cash deal for Suarez from RM this weekend.
Alonso, Higuain, Mintario and Contraio all in the frame, not sure which ones offered / agreed move
Looks to be coming to a head before Suarez is due to meet up with squad
Arsenal left trumped again.

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20 Jul 2013 10:57:34
It is being reported £20M + Higuain for Suarez? Please let there be some truth in it. That would be a great result as we wouldn't face Suarez next season and we would get a descent striker

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20 Jul 2013 10:42:27
What the hell is going on! Reina out on loan, Suarez to Arsenal! Why in gods green earth would BR say he wants competiton all the way through the team then let our 2nd or 3rd most senior play leave! Wow to save a bit of cash!

BR saying we are going to get 1 or 2 players that will excite. last time we herd this we ended up with some crap called borini (give him a chance what do you know, I know right now players like that aren't going to get us top four). Yes Aspas and Mig and Couts and Studge will and have been good signings and toure will be a rock but the point was too get a stong squad with depth not get in cheap players on cheaper wages then let our most senior players leave. whos next? lucas? agger?

Suarez going to Arsenal will be shocking and it will be the difference between us getting fourth and them or spurs. you can replace suarez end of, can you try and get a bunch of new players in for his transfer fee? yes but will it gel? NOOOOOO! look at newcastle last season bought in a load of players couldn't gel for shizzle and nearly got relegated.

Every season with Liverpool seems to be a transistion period. I trust BR but not when he talks b0llocks!

We need to keep our best players and ADD! we should be adding players who give our best players confidence. If I was Gerrard and our biggest signing of the season was a chap called Aspas I would be like wow. The days need to come back where we were signing Torres and Mascharano. If you hadnt herd of Torres before he came to Liverpool you would have been a person.

I can't help but feel stressed over the handling of players at LFC these last couple of seasons.

I for one would have prferred Carroll then Borini! misses sitters left right and centre. couldn't even score against PNE. Case closed.

Watch people moan now about how I don't know anything brown nosing the Eds arses. but fact is everyone on this site knows Liverpool need top four and we won't get it with the crop/bunch of players we have.

Cheers big ears

Noddy

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20 Jul 2013 10:36:02
I'm thinking the napoli loan is good. a way of saying thanks to pepe while his preferred move to barca becomes available next year .this also shows Suarez that the club cares about the players and not just out to make a quick buck. So if Suarez stays 1 more Season he can then have his move if we don't make CL.
Syd1892. {Ed002's Note - The orange sunshine kicking in?}

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20 Jul 2013 10:35:41
Everyone needs to clam down over Renia. It is clear what is happening. Season long loan meaning his wages are being paid freeing up around 5 million. Then a move to barca at the end of the season for around 9 million. If Reina sits on the bench then surely his value goes down. I say its a great move. So many people on here think they are experts it makes me laugh. If you are also so clever, why don't you become a manager yourselves then? Trust Rodgers, he will see us right. We need to unit behind our team, not moan at every decision. I've never been so excited about a season before. If we unit as one, we can help cheer this club to greatness once again

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20 Jul 2013 10:58:48
Bloody hell. What negativity
These cannot be Liverpool supporters, must be Trolls.
I live in Liverpool and I don't hear anything like this from Liverpool supporters. Bitter Blues, yes, but not reds
Keep the faith and don't believe the s!t stirring Trolls

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20 Jul 2013 10:57:05
If the rumours true that RM are to offer Higuain plus 20 million for Suarez and Higuain accepts the deal then I believe it's a fantastic deal for us.

I'd love Suarez to stay like most fans would but let's be honest the guys a ticking time bomb isn't he. Love him or hate him he attracts trouble, Evra incident, Spitting at Fulham incident, and the biting incident and now the open pleading to leaving Liverpool after the club as stood by him through everything.

I think if RM want to do business and offer cash plus Higuain then I honestly believe that's a fantastic deal for Liverpool.

Higuain is a fantastic footballer with a better average per goal than Suarez plus a better conversion rate plus he's younger.

Go on Brendan and FSG get the deal done and use the cash on the Ajax pair.

Higuain, Erikson, and Toby for Suarez easy. ,

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20 Jul 2013 10:52:12
It's up to the player who he wants to sign for, and Reina wants Barca next year, hence the loan to Napoli which gives him 1st team football on the run up to the world cup as opposed to warming the bench behind Mignolet. So everyone who is slating BR, IA and FSG they cannot make a decision about a player without their agreement, so all in all I think this is the best outcome.

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20 Jul 2013 10:43:04
Pepe reina made 4 mistakes that lead directly to goals in the PL last season the joint most with 3 other keepers including al habsi & vorm. He's not this brilliant goalkeeper most seem to think he is he is now currently a very average keeper that like most keepers occasionally pulls off a worldie

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20 Jul 2013 10:27:14
Has anyone thought that maybe there wasn't much interest in buying reina this summer? He wants champs league so that rules a lot of teams out. Then of the teams in champs league most seem happy with their current keeper bar Napoli and barca.
Valdes is at barca for one more season so they won't be moving for a keeper this year, whereas the eds state Napoli just want a keeper on loan.
So this situation suits all parties, Napoli get a keeper on loan, we get a small fee and wages paid. Then next summer barca or others will be looking for a keeper and we will have one to sell.
If we kept reina this summer he would sit on the bench and his value go down, also we would spend 4ml on wages for a sub keeper!

Above all else Reina has been a great servant to the club who does not deserve to sit on the bench, he may of asked to go to get first team football and we owe him that. {Ed002's Note - Barcelona have their future GK clearly defined.}

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20 Jul 2013 10:22:24
We all know what will happen with Suarez, He his going to try and force the move through, by using the clause in his contract.We now have Journalists, that are Arsenal fans, writing articles in their papers, pushing the move.Same blokes couldn't wait to have ago of him last yr.My thoughts have always been the same, Suarez is a great player, but very self centered.

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20 Jul 2013 10:21:38
Why the moaning about Reina going on loan? Of course we would rather sell, but we ain't exactly been flooded with offers. He has 3 years left on his contract at about £4m in wages a year and by going on loan with his wages picked up by Napoli we will be recouping half of the transfer fee for Mignolet in saved wages and loan fee. Reina will still have a sell on value at the end of the loan period. Even if we sold him in a years time for a knock down 5m, by loaning him now we are ensuring we recoup the £9m spent on Mignolet. This is called smart management! The alternative is to hold out for a sale (at the £9-12m fee we all want) during the this transfer window which may not come leaving us with an unhappy Pepe as a reserve earning 80-90k a week. Given the circumstances the loan is a smart move and credit to BR for making he bold move of signing Mignolet. I have every confidence Mignolet will soon show that he is world class. Thank you also to Pepe YNWA. Reality Red

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Ahh at last some sanity, good post.

Jon

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Very good post.

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20 Jul 2013 10:17:21
Ed who is suarez's most likely destination Madrid or arsenal {Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer where he is "most likely" to go - but I can say that you will probably see interest from both sides.}

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20 Jul 2013 10:14:45
dont understand reina on loan, tought he would have helped mignolet into our style of play. so mignolet is no 1, surely pepe is waiting for barca next season, so if it happened mignolet got injured (dont want to jinx him) reina would be back?thats the only reason I can see, and the wage bill. would love to hear your thoughts, eds and reds.cheers

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Coaches are pretty good at helping keepers fit the style of play required by their respective clubs.

Kopping a feel

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20 Jul 2013 10:13:40
People need to look at the bigger picture for rodgers. Would you rather sell reina for around 8-10 million, or would you loan him save around 4 million on his wages and command a 1-1.5 million loan fee then still sell him on for a minimum 7 million next season.
I think it is a brilliant bit of business. Still holding Reina if for some reason Mignolet doesn't work out which it will as he is a top class keeper. Saving money in the process.

Jagerrocket85 {Ed002's Note - So if he were sold you don't see his wages being saved as well? Another example for those who want to see money discussed.}

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20 Jul 2013 10:10:13
". Sending an 8 year servant on loan is the worst disrespectful act ever.
Next what. gerrard on loan?
Suarez lied to fans. so did BR.
Disgusting.

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I agree

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He was willing to leave if barca came in for him and leave us in the rubbish, he does not want to sit on the bench while we have a new keeper . He hasn't been saving any goals lately may as will lfc save some money. As for Suarez what a tit

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Why do you care we have minolet

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20 Jul 2013 10:01:47
Morning eds.

Well I just can't believe we are willing to loan Reina. He's 30 yrs old, if we don't want him. SELL him!

I know it'll take £4-5m off the wage bill, but so would selling him which would wiuld also give us important funds to help rebuild.

I just think its a big risk. Let's say he moves to Napoli, has a shocking season, what would we get for him then?

We should sell whilst we can still get around £10m for him.

He's been an awsome keeper for us, but if its time to go. sell him!

Cheers
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Mr.T
Reina has flirted all summer with Barca and then Valdez decided to stay for another year. 130k is approx. 5m£. We bought his replacement in Mignolet.
Reina's value would decrease if he was on the bench.
For me it makes sense.
Like this he will get his dream move next year to Barca.

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If he has a shocking season we've dodged a bullet and proven we were right to move him on.

Reina WAS great and a real favourite of mine but Mignolet has been better than him for the past 2 years.

Kidder

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20 Jul 2013 09:49:42
Suarez's agents have taken legal advice to try and get arsenal to match the clsuse in his contract that allows him to talk to them, then they will attempt to stop Liverpool blocking the transfer, using the 2m he is due as a possible incentive

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Liverpool can still say NO to anyone even if Suarez screams and shouts and says that they won't be invited to his birthday party and will no longer be their best friend he is under contract he is an employee.
Arsenal can tell him to do anything they want and it won't make a bit of difference just look at what happened to Odemwingie last transfer window.

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20 Jul 2013 09:37:23
Realistically, do you see Liverpool signing another centre back and attacking player? {Ed002's Note - Done to death - but probably.}

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20 Jul 2013 09:29:40
reina to Napoli. done deal- will be announced next wk- forget Bernard, not happening. expect to see 2 more signings. agger will stay. lloris will be on the way and a top forward. luis will sign for arsenal. 45 million

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20 Jul 2013 09:28:02
I am looking forward to the season, but without getting carried away with expectations.We need to be realistic and except the position we are in.We don't have the resources that the other top teams have, so we need to adopt a more sensible approach in the transfer market.We will have to work hard and have a bit of luck, to break into the top 4.I will be in my regular seat, cheering the boys on.Liverpool will play some good football this yr and they have come along way from the Hoof it with Hodgson era.Let's not expect too much from the team and accept watching a young developing side, that are hungry and working hard.I do believe in time that we will become a great side once more.Come on you reds.

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20 Jul 2013 09:24:36
Hi eds, what is this talk that Arsenal will offer 40mil to speak to Suarez but will then use legal proceedings to try and block our attempts to reject an offer of 40mil. Instead they will use the 2mil Luis craves as an incentive for him to sign. Sorry if this has been covered I couldn't see nothing relating to it and I know fans are bored to death with it. Keep up the good work cheers.

CC {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

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20 Jul 2013 09:22:36
I think Reina going on loan is a good decision. We need a fresh start in goal with Mignolet. We don't know why a loan deal has been agreed rather than a sale but there must be a reason. But I can't help feeling it will be a good thing in the long run.

Gazline {Ed002's Note - The reason is they only wanted to loan a GK.}

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I think Liverpool are fools for allowing a world class keeper leave on loan it has to be a sale, Barcelona wouldn't loan out Messi would they .

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BigD, that is a bit silly, mate. One of the greatest footballers to have eer played at a club who want him and where he wants to be vs a very good keeper who wants out, hasn't been at his best for some time. World class, Reina is not.

Andy K

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20 Jul 2013 09:09:30
Napoli getting Reina on loan, a team that sold a player for 50M plus is being given a proven Golie on Loan, can we simply take 9M as fees and ask them to take him permanently, surely we can buy half decent keeper as backup for 4-5 M. {Ed002's Note - If they wanted to buy another keeper it would not have been Reina.}

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Any chance that reina wanted a loan so he can move to barca next year ed? {Ed002's Note - It is nothing to do with Barcelona at all.}

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20 Jul 2013 09:08:52
Molby is a legend, but I wish he and other ex-players would keep their mouths shut. Talking up potential issues only helps the London media unsettle the team, club and fans. I know that if they come out with anything positive it won't get printed, but these rent a quote soundbites really don't help.

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20 Jul 2013 09:29:40
reina to Napoli. done deal- will be announced next wk- forget Bernard, not happening. expect to see 2 more signings. agger will stay. lloris will be on the way and a top forward. luis will sign for arsenal. 45 million

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Bernard plays left side a great prospect, but we already have 2 young left sided players in Sterling and Ibe who will be playing out of their skin to get that position this season, that's if last weeks game is to go on.Don't get me wrong, Bernard is on another level at the moment, but I am convinced that Ibe and Sterling fighting it out for that left striking position will spur each other on. Imo I would like to see Ben Arfa come in to give Downing competition on the Right and another Centre Back, but I must say how much Toure impressed me last week.

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20 Jul 2013 09:28:02
I am looking forward to the season, but without getting carried away with expectations.We need to be realistic and except the position we are in.We don't have the resources that the other top teams have, so we need to adopt a more sensible approach in the transfer market.We will have to work hard and have a bit of luck, to break into the top 4.I will be in my regular seat, cheering the boys on.Liverpool will play some good football this yr and they have come along way from the Hoof it with Hodgson era.Let's not expect too much from the team and accept watching a young developing side, that are hungry and working hard.I do believe in time that we will become a great side once more.Come on you reds.

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20 Jul 2013 09:24:36
Hi eds, what is this talk that Arsenal will offer 40mil to speak to Suarez but will then use legal proceedings to try and block our attempts to reject an offer of 40mil. Instead they will use the 2mil Luis craves as an incentive for him to sign. Sorry if this has been covered I couldn't see nothing relating to it and I know fans are bored to death with it. Keep up the good work cheers.

CC {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

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20 Jul 2013 09:22:36
I think Reina going on loan is a good decision. We need a fresh start in goal with Mignolet. We don't know why a loan deal has been agreed rather than a sale but there must be a reason. But I can't help feeling it will be a good thing in the long run.

Gazline {Ed002's Note - The reason is they only wanted to loan a GK.}

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20 Jul 2013 09:09:30
Napoli getting Reina on loan, a team that sold a player for 50M plus is being given a proven Golie on Loan, can we simply take 9M as fees and ask them to take him permanently, surely we can buy half decent keeper as backup for 4-5 M. {Ed002's Note - If they wanted to buy another keeper it would not have been Reina.}

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20 Jul 2013 09:08:52
Molby is a legend, but I wish he and other ex-players would keep their mouths shut. Talking up potential issues only helps the London media unsettle the team, club and fans. I know that if they come out with anything positive it won't get printed, but these rent a quote soundbites really don't help.

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20 Jul 2013 09:06:24
if reina does leave for any reason. then il never listen to anything brendan or the club say again!

the guy said he spoke to reina for weeks and weeks saying that its good for competition, ok that's normal.
so why would he loan the best goalkeeper we have had for many many years! every top player has made mistakes, but reina stats speak for themselves and how many goalkeepers do u know that doesn't crap himself when the ball is at his feet or fumble at big games all the time.
to be frank I don't even have an opinion on mignolet because iv never watched him play so I can't say its a bad signing, but we are on the verge of losing 2 of our best players with surez too. and its just rubbish!

brendan clearly lied.he lied to all the fans about reina. if he goes. that's a fact

and do u really think they are telling the truth now? by sayign we have more signings to come!

remember they said more signings to come after they quickly bought borini and allen last summer then there was a longggggggggg anxious wait, the days past, the weeks past. then suddenly a frantic last min race to sign that american dude who plays for spurs.
and what happened. NO SIGNINGS

so i'm just saying its not worth listening to what they say because they simply lie to the fans which is crappy

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Rodgers is useless. He's target was to get to the top 4 and he never even got close to Europa league.Add to this the stupid statements he keeps making I expect him to be gone by xmas. He is a liar and fsg need to sell this club because at the moment if you change the kit to claret and blue people would not know the difference between us and west ham. They are slowly selling all of our best players who will never be replaced by players of the same ability because Rodgers has created a mid table team.

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Just like when Rafa told everyone that Alonso was staying and left weeks later.

Please do not make Rodgers your scapegoat. Reina is going to leave anyway at the end of the new season so get over your little hissy fit.

Logan

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I agree lobster, it is a joke! BR just talks out his arse!

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What on earth was he supposed to say? What would you have said if you were in his position? It was obvious once Mignolet signed that Reina wouldn't be staying but he's not actually going to say that in public is he? Given the amount of questions he's faced regarding the situation he had to say something in response but we as intelligent human beings should have the ability to read between the lines at times. As for last summer it's very rare for a manager to come in to a club the size of Liverpool, (unless they have megabucks to spend, which we haven't) and sign whoever they want regardless of cost. Now that he's been in charge for a season he's been able to identify areas of the squad he would like to improve and has brought in 6 new players since Christmas, 9 in total, plus youth players being given a chance. I'd say that's a fairly drastic over hall of the squad in a 12 month period given who we had playing in the 2011-12 season. I also believe there will be more to come in and possibly a few more out via sales or loans but we won't pay over the odds anymore and he's not at this stage going to come out and say exactly what the clubs intentions are regarding the clubs personnel as you wouldn't if you were in charge. Still listen to what Brendan/the cub has to say, just be prepared to take some of it with a pinch of salt, and wait and see what actually transpires.

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And welcome to reality :)

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Because he's not going to pay obscene amounts of money on wages for a back up keeper

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20 Jul 2013 11:33:21
I completly agree,, this transfer window is turning out absolutly rubbish.
RUBBISH. I am honestly sick of this now. Forget top 4. FSG should sack themselves if and when we fail to achieve top 4. Utter garbage deal to send reina on loan.

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20 Jul 2013 08:57:13
Liverpool have signed a two-year extension to their partnership with main shirt sponsors Standard Chartered.

Deal worth up to £20million per season. = £40million

Liverpool had just come off the back of a season when they had finished runners-up in the Barclays Premier League and were regulars in the Champions League when they signed with standard chartered.

I was wondering this. How long can they keep milking LFC as premium football club before sponsors and supporters stop paying. These shirt deal money doesn't seem to be making it on to the pitch.

How can anyone run a business in this manner? They did it at Red Soux and no one minded about the lack of success, but at Liverpool success hasn't come. We havn't been Liverpool since 1990. Will sponsors still pour money into a club that leaves off of past glory. The squad to me seems on par with mid-table teams like Aston Villa.

Hiding the results problems with tik-taki style of football. The product is somewhat entertaining, not satisfying at all. Is their any real signs of ambition. I some how think serving in the premiership is success for the owners. As long as it didn't cost too much.

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They poor money into us because we have a world wide support that only a few teams cam genuinely match

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I not 100% sure but sponsors will big money the more people hear about them where they want them to ie I hear standard chartered are big in Asia not so much here we hear about them! Point is Liverpool has big support over there where's Aston villa has not so no point in them spending big money to put there name on there shirt hope u get the point
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I think you need to drink your milk and grow up.
we have won more than most top clubs since 2000 and the fact that sponsors invest large amounts shows they have belief in Liverpool as a global franchise and the direction we are moving.

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20 Jul 2013 08:52:10
Any interest in Ricky Alvarez? {Ed002's Note - No.}

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20 Jul 2013 08:48:12
tv are reporting that Reina is moving to Napoli on a season long loan. Any ideas on the thinking behind that? Is it just to edge our bets to seee if mignolet is any good so we have a fall back next season? Or will it be an option to buy move similar to the Andy Carroll move. Whatever happens I hope we get decent money for him and treat him properly after 8 years service {Ed002's Note - No, there is no secret ploy. He has gone on loan, that is it.}

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20 Jul 2013 08:47:53
Rumour out that RM will use Higuain + cash in a deal for Suarez. Any truth in this, eds? If there is, I would take the offer! {Ed002's Note - Twitter is this?}

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20 Jul 2013 08:45:53
I don't have any LFC contacts or insider info, but I just wanted to add a possible smart business side to the Reina loan equation. Like most of us I'm a little sad Reina won't be with us next year but BR clearly thinks Mignolet is the way forward. If, as reports suggest, Reina will move to Barca next season then sending him on loan to play CL with another manager who got the best years out of him is a clever piece of business to hike his price up before the end of the season, rather than see it diminish through sitting on the bench. Just a thought and good luck to the lad, he's been a great servant to the club, Bryan

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20 Jul 2013 08:42:04
Guys relax about Reina. There is no way we were going to pay someone 110 grand a week to sit on the bench. Also we don't know what Reina wanted. {Ed002's Note - You have been told repeatedly what Reina wanted.}

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So we just give him away.

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20 Jul 2013 08:19:01
Eds why loan Reina to Napoli when they can clearly afford to buy him? I don't see the benefit unless its a loan to buy deal {Ed002's Note - They don't want to buy him - they didn't want to buy Cesar which is what that deal fell thru.}

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20 Jul 2013 08:10:32
Why are we going to let reina leave on loan? What is the actual point in that? We always let clubs walk all over us in the transfer window. Sometimes I think our club is run by persons! {Ed002's Note - The expectations of some of the posters are way too high - all of this "Reina is worth £15M" etc. is simply not the case. However, I would have expected the club to look to sell Reina rather than let him go on loan.}

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20 Jul 2013 07:54:30
Fsg are a joke. To loan pepe when we need the money is pathetic. Its not like they are splashing the cash now they loan a player who should have been sold to bring in new players. They don't have a clue about football they should stick.with rounders they are a bunch of clueless owners who should sell this club before all our best players are sold. {Ed002's Note - What has this got to do with FSG?}

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Sorry mate but what do you know about running a multi million pound football club! It's you who doesn't have a clue.
Reina going out on loan is a great piece of business. We get 1.5m loan fee, plus saving 4m in an years wages, so that's 5.5m for nothing. Not to mention with Reina playing regular football will keep his value up for next year when, I imagine, he will go to Barcelona. This will put us in a much stronger negotiating position rather than him going for a pittance because he's been Sat on the bench for a full season.
FFS stop being so negative! There is over a month left of the transfer window, just wait and watch what happens. I for one am pleasantly optimistic!

Also my apologies as this isn't a direct rant at you but to all the negative so called supporters on this site!

Voice of reason!

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Why do we need the money, loaning reins frees up almost 100grand a week which could be put to use on one of these marquee signings people keep bleating on about so why are you upset we loaned a backup keeper.

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20 Jul 2013 07:54:13
£5m off the wage bill as well as cash from Napoli for the season.

If this then I am ok with Pepe joining Napoli on loan.
But if we are paying part of his wages and not getting a fee for loan then BS. No.

Also if Pepe leave then we have Mingolet, Jones and young Ward as keepers. I am not sure this looks strong for GK options. IF Mingolet gets injured or so then what happens?

Still couple of weeks to go but getting have this un easy feeling there won't be any exciting things to be happy for. Suarez sag drags on. Pepe leaves.not sure if any big player will join us. players like Sterling who could make squad competitive and exciting talent leaving on loan.The useless (Spearing, Assaidi, Coates, Flanagan ) not leaving.

We 'll see. Ian Ayre better f.k. g pull some string here other wise we are f. k. d up again.

Still need a very quality LW and world class striker if Suarez leaves. Ya world class we are loosing a world class striker in Suarez so we need to replace him with another world class player if not we are going back wards.Provided that Sterling stays he would be a great asset to the squad.


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People going on becase we loaned raina . we have replaced him already with a better keeper suarez pulls us down so we haven't went down it looks like were losing two quality football players but in all reality were improving Liverpoolfc team as a team we are better without these two so what dose it matter how they go

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20 Jul 2013 07:27:32
According to ESPN Real Madrid have tabled a bid of £20m+wantaway striker Higuain. Is it true Ed? Also according to ESPN, Pepe is close to joining Napoli on a season-long loan. Would appreciate if the Eds could shed some light on this.

CM PUNK {Ed002's Note - I think someone on Twitter is teasing you about ESPN and Real Madrid.}

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20 Jul 2013 07:15:31
Reina to Napoli on loan for one year, then permanent move to Barcelona agreed in principle for next summer.

Good look Pepe!

Billericay Red {Ed002's Note - Not at all.}

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20 Jul 2013 07:13:33
Did BR not say we need 2 top keepers to fight for the number 1 spot. So we going to get another keeper in, as, as good as Jones is he is nowhere near a top keeper. Don't see it myself?

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20 Jul 2013 06:57:59
Reina on loan is a disgrace, what next gerrard on a free to the mancs

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Reina was always going t move on at some point but is holding out for Barca, however that isn't going to happen until Vlades moves on next summer. IMO Mignolet has been brought in as first choice, so why would we have a £80-90k a week earner sat on the bench decreasing in value and getting frustrated through lack of playing time, when we can let Napoli pay his wages, say £4m, plus command a fee for the loan say £1-1.5m, then sell him to Barca next summer for £8-10m. We already have his replacement at the club, win win. By the way Gerrard has just signed a new contract, so what a ridiculous comment.

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Please the over reaction is embarrassing. We loaned out a second choice keeper who is one of the highest earners in the squad, makes sense to me if no buyer could be found.

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20 Jul 2013 06:23:08
Reina going out on loan is not really that bad, though it much more better he going out for good but he maybe waiting for barcelona goalkeeping position open up. Him going out on loan mean we did'nt have to pay his wages when he will only be sitting on the bench. In one year time then he can move to barcelona.

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20 Jul 2013 06:08:58
Where is all the posters who wanted to get rid of reina now? He cost us games etc. Everyone is now saying he is the best ball distributor in the league and a great stopper. I don't have a crystal ball, but can see all the suarez heaters who said get rid of him is going to ask for BR head if he sells him. I think it's a tougher job to please fans than to qualify for CL .
SA RED

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I'm not backing down on Suarez, sell him for all I care, I'm sick of his attitude and don't want him at Liverpool next season

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20 Jul 2013 05:42:30
Hello ED could you please sum up the situation with Suarez? Which teams have concrete interest in him and how much would Liverpool consider to sell Him for?
Thanks keep up the great work
Bhavik {Ed002's Note - The issue right now is which teams would pay an acceptable fee for the player - there is no point in discussing the amount as all you will get is the confused one with expectations of £80M etc.. Right now there is posturing going on with Suarez's representatives and Arsenal and Liverpool - this will come to a head in the next week I would think.}

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20 Jul 2013 12:30:07
Ed002, you are saying it is possible that Suarez could join Arsenal?

Logan {Ed002's Note - Of course it is possible.}

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20 Jul 2013 03:11:17
if Liverpool made a bid for Ben Arfa would Newcastle be interested in also having downing in the deal? {Ed002's Note - No idea.}

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20 Jul 2013 02:15:03
We are turning into an embarrasment. Reina out loan.? Just sell him if you want rid of him. by going on loan his value wi decrease. Why is ian ayre still in a job? All these posters saying "oh br and fsg are doing the right thing by reducing the wage bill and bringing in young players with potential", this seAson is open for top 4 challenge. my question is when will he sign someone we have heard of? The club is currently operating on foundations of ignorance supporting a structure of incompetence. welcome criticism from all the eternal optimists, but the club no longer resembles what made us great.

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Never heard of kolo toure and mignolet, eh?

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Why would his value decrease, its just as likely to increase or stay the same, the most we would have got for him is 7-9mil so saving over 90 grand a week on the wage bill for a back up keeper seems like a sensible option to me, especially if no buyer could be found. People having a go a BR need to get a life. What's he going to say "reina is not needed here" further decreasing his value? Managers lie. Get over it. And If its in the best interests of the club I don't understand why so many people are getting their knickers in a twist over this.

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20 Jul 2013 01:28:04
why do people keep asking .
Ed's, any chance Liverpool could be interested in .
( insert any name you like ) .
FFS - what do you think they're mystic meg or something!

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20 Jul 2013 01:02:54
Eds, a while back there was mention of Alexis Sanchez. Are we definitely out of the running for him / not interested? Or could we reignite interest should Luis be sold? I can't remember what the circumstances were last time, whether we were interested, or he became available and we could potentially be. I did search but could not find anything recent.

Thanks for all your hard work {Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

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20 Jul 2013 00:59:13
Reports suggest a fee of 1.5m and all of Reinas wages will be paid.

I imagine that next year Napoli will actually buy him or potentially he could join Barca.

I can see the vast positives, he had to leave once Mignolet signed as we can't have two top players which could harm morale.

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Agree man. I was mad at first to find out it was a loan, but i'm starting to become more content with the idea. Would've loved the cash for this summer tho.

NDred

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Yh but won't reina only have a year left on this contract after this year?

or is he currently sitting on a 3year deal?

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Napoli have just raked in 55 million and want to rent a player, for 1.5. My argument with Rodgers is that he lies to the fans.We have all known all along that he wanted shut of Pepe. There isn't anything wrong with him wanting to change him, as we all know Pepe has not been happy since Rafa left.He is the Manager and he makes the decisions, which he believes is best for the club and he doesn't have to explain why, or lie about it.If Mignolet was brought in to replace Pepe the fans would except it.To tell us all it's to make the squad stronger, then loan Pepe out for 1.5 million and lower the wage bill in the same process is trying to kid us all.We aren't stupid, Brendan.Stop lying to the fans mate and take a tip from Bob Paisley do what you need to do quietly and don;t explain yourself.

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If this is the deal then great. but Mignolet, Ward and Jones am not sure is good enough back up. It could get wore if Mignolet gets injured.

Bosco

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Reina leaving on loan does surprise me, as with 55m coming in, I am not sure why we didn't say "if you want him buy him?" maybe there is a sensible reason.
If we loaned him and we can recall him if Mignolet got injured, it covers a high wage and keep him from being unsettled. But if there is a loan fee, often recalling a player is not that straight forward. {Ed002's Note - That would be because it is nothing to do with the sale of Cavani.}

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20 Jul 2013 09:34:11
Positives? Nonsense mate.
We will loose around 30 % of any transfer fee we were expecting. He will have 2 years left on his deal.
I don't see the purpuse or even the point in a loan.
Sell him, you loose his wages that way too!
Loan him? wow, we really have become a club who only cares about what players are on!
It's tragic, Agger may move and skrtel may stay! Only because the club will recieve £ 14 million for agger and £ 8 for skrtel. Forget top 4. Forget it. FSG thankyou for saving the club, but you will never reach your "goals" the way you are going about it.

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Reina leaving on loan does surprise me, as with 55m coming in, I am not sure why we didn't say "if you want him buy him?" maybe there is a sensible reason.
If we loaned him and we can recall him if Mignolet got injured, it covers a high wage and keep him from being unsettled. But if there is a loan fee, often recalling a player is not that straight forward. {Ed002's Note - That would be because it is nothing to do with the sale of Cavani.}

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20 Jul 2013 09:34:11
Positives? Nonsense mate.
We will loose around 30 % of any transfer fee we were expecting. He will have 2 years left on his deal.
I don't see the purpuse or even the point in a loan.
Sell him, you loose his wages that way too!
Loan him? wow, we really have become a club who only cares about what players are on!
It's tragic, Agger may move and skrtel may stay! Only because the club will recieve £ 14 million for agger and £ 8 for skrtel. Forget top 4. Forget it. FSG thankyou for saving the club, but you will never reach your "goals" the way you are going about it.

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Well we were told Mignolet was brought in for competition! Keep up the spin Ted, your doing a good job for the owners. Johno next and it's game set and match, big earners gone. The sooner you lot wake up to these charlatans the better.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - Reina went because Reina wanted to go. He was not forced out by the owners.}

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20 Jul 2013 00:32:52
Cannot believe we're letting one of the best goalies in the league leave on loan.

Also, does anyone know what time (UK) we play against Indonesia XI (I think) tomorrow, and will there be any coverage on the official website/ LFCTV? Thanks in advance.

RedKopite

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Reina out on loan is a joke, very poor desicion full stop.
Indonesia XI vs LFC kick off at 2.30pm

abbs

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Its on ESPN HD, coverage starts at 2pm

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Indonesia XI Vs Liverpool FC will be shown tomorrow on ESPN AND ALJAZEERA SPORT +7 AT 2.30pm LFCTV might show it later on in the evening.

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Cheers lads

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Agree 100%,, poor nive by management to loan him out, yes we can't have 2 top keepers, but at least get a good transfer fee for him. Very dissapointing.

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BeIn sport at 9:30 for American viewers

Ryanwhittington

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He needs a new challenge he went stale last year and his performances were'nt the best, he's gone now very surprised if he ever wears red again!
stevieH

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Have you all lost the plot. do you know how much he earns a week? that alone could sign a player who could contribute. Sorry you don't pay your number 2 keeper 100k per week and he is now so

GET REAL

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20 Jul 2013 09:36:12
Ridicolous to loan him out. He is not 20! Want to get him off the wage bill? sell him! What will 1 million do in a loan fee help with? NOTHING

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1:30pm on LFCTV

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Me too a little annoyed that it is just a loan deal! The 10-12 million would of been a nice bit of extra funds! yes extra 5 million from the wage bill for one year but ultimately he will be sold next season so don't really see the logic in it to be honest.

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If your talking 10-12 mil in transfer fees then your deluded. More 7-9 mil at the very most

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20 Jul 2013 12:41:43
This is a poor decision! All the talk of oh having 2 good keepers battling for competition is healthy and then they waste that by sending reina out on loan? It don't make sense. We should of at least sold him and then we have got abit more money in the pot to get a decent back up. I say get Alex McCarthy, he is young and showed promise last season especially against us he was great. Then hopefully we could couch him better as we go and again have great competition.
Bucklered

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20 Jul 2013 00:21:04
Kyriakos Papadopolous, Loic Remy, Christian Eriksen all to be signed by the end of the transfer window, very good business by Ian and Brendan this transfer window in my opinion, very strong squad for next season.

Rednose Russell.

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. and your evidence is .?

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I bought it. but never know.

I'd prefer Papadopoulos(or Jerome Boateng), Kevin P Boateng & Hatem Ben Arfa to replace Downing.

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There isn't any mate, just another straw clutcher!

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Don't think loic Remy is all that to be honest and I don't think he is the type of player BR is interested in.Christian Ericksen is a decent young player, just needs to learn how to shut his mouth up!

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