Liverpool Banter Archive December 20 2012

 

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20 Dec 2012 23:32:24
So we are expecting Sturridge, Ince and a winger on loan, sounds quite disappointing if I'm honest. Clearly no-one has learned from Kenny and we're about to overspend on players who stood out in poor teams. Sturridge was brilliant for Bolton, where he was the main man but he's too ball greedy, always tries to be the hero and that's not what we're about. We have strikers that can score 1 in 10 chances and it isn't an improvement. Ince is playing well at Blackpool but again that's in the Championship. If he was so good then wouldn't we have offered him the wages he and his dad were asking for and offered to push him into the team? Again he plays for himself and not for the club and players like that will shine in a poor team. I pray to God that they prove me wrong, that they shut me up and go on to lead us into the top 4, but I don't see any other top 8 teams in the race for them.


Hey how about we slate and boo sturridge and ince once theyve flopped yeah?

People moan about end product and that we pass too much the moan when we go after direct players who r hungry to score


Sturridge got regular games for Bolton, a club which probably created half the chances he would get if he played regularly for Chavski.
He has never been given a chance for regular first team football at Chavski because the Russian wants Fernando to play. So he was behind Fernando, Drogba and Anelka.
When Rushy came to LFC he struggled at first. He asked Paisley where he was going wrong and what he should be doing to improve.
Paisley said "just put the ball in the net and we'll talk about that later". He never looked back. The point being, strikers have to be greedy. Name me a successful striker who wasn't greedy. Do you criticise Messi for always being greedy and wanting to be the hero?
You may be proven correct and he may be a flop, but don't rip him apart before he has had a game.
Tom and Paul Ince wanted first team wages before Tom had played a first team game. It's nothing to do with ability or potential, it's to do with attitude. The lad needed to be taught a lesson and binning him was the only way.
If you've watched a lot of Blackpool this season you will have seen that Ince does not only play for himself, but what he doesn't do is pass to a player who is in a worse position than himself. We could do with being a bit more direct ourselves.
Don't bother praying to God about football, it's only a game.


Lol Messi greedy? Just because he has scored a daft amount of goals this season don't mistake him for greedy, he is a player who always has his head up - it just so happens he is so ridiculously talented that he can do everything on top of scoring goals.

SMc


 

 

20 Dec 2012 22:46:49
chelsea is in for suarez 40m!
might be a bit to tempting for him


No Suarez.
No Liverpool.

The End Game has arrived.

FSG and Rodgers.

Pollo


Yeah, yeah, yeah, mate... ZZZzzzz.


Haha yeah because they're still in the champions league right?


20 Dec 2012 23:55:41
Ha! £50 million for an out of form Torres. They'll have to pay ALOT more for an in-form Suarez.

Jolly Red


I agree 80m
40m for falcao 40cavani


Not tempting enough for us though.

Double it and add in Sturridge please Roman


 

 

20 Dec 2012 22:38:13
Henderson, Carroll and Downing have bags of Premiership experience, your experience point proves nothing.

And our club is obsessed with buying ordinary young British players. Maybe FSG are thinking future transfer profits because they believe British players won't lose stock value in the Premiership. Truth is we have lost money on everyone of the British players we have signed recently. Any British player that does succeed will eventually sold for profit, and to another English club, because European clubs have better sense than to overpay for players just because they are British, try name all the Brits at Barca, Real, Bayern etc. Instead will be selling to Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and FSG won't have any problems been a feeder for these clubs.

Its not just superstars form the continent we want, we just need good players of high quality, they can be found and they don't have to cost a fortune either, a good example is Michu, and he is better than Sturirdge. How much did he cost again? And how much premiership experience did he have when Swansea signed him?

Either our owners are blindsided by possible profits, our manager is blinkered in his view of players, or our scouts too lazy to look abroad, maybe they all need a collective kick up the backside.


Manta
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Mate I just explained few week before why we are after British players coz managers nationality plays big Role. There is nothing to do with FSG

Fergie nationality Scotland made his team spine full of British Players

Wenger nationality France made his team spine with French players

Benitez nationality Spain made Liverpool FC spine with spain players

Dalglish nationality Scotland made liverpool spine with british players when he was successful and 2nd time when he was unsuccessful

Brendan Rodgers nationality Nothern ireland he will make liverpool spine with british players we like it or not. So don't be surprised when we are interested in the likes of ince or sturridge.


I would've guessed if the club did have this but british policy that people are going on about it was purely to avoid the rules regarding homegrown players that i think is getting implamented soon. I dont really know though tbh.
derryred


 

 

20 Dec 2012 21:27:06
,Eds wot your thoughts ön following lns sturridge,Ince,jeffren poss unknown player from abroad ,outs Wilson,downing,cole,deffo no wallcott,hunteleer,villa,etc,spend in Jan ins,20 million outs 10 million ynwa {Ed002's Note - Possible.}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 21:09:56
I wont complain with a front line of Sturridge, Suarez & Gameiro.

Trini_red


U wont get it either


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:57:11
Butland in and reina out big possibility I hear.... thoughts ed...


Butland may well sign but , at 19 , he is five years short of first team duty .

Reina is definitely off in the summer , thankfully .


Butland isn't interested in a move to anfield! The player is not seeking a move


Reina is the best keeper we could have at this time. Who exactly are we going to replace him with? He's not going anywhere, get used to it!
ND


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:54:44
Hi Ed 002, This is my first and probably last post for obvious reasons. Ince deal was agreed 2 weeks ago. Blackpool want to show their fans that they got the best price so take no notice of statements. Sturridge deal 100% done. Reina to Arsenal in a straight swap for Walcott. Buckland in as replacement. This deal will be announced quite late in the window.
The Moneyman {Ed002's Note - No deal has been agreed for Ince. No deral has been agreed for Sturridge.}


Who is Buckland ?


Moneyman = Daniel Halwell ??


Jock Buckland.

He's been tapped up by Ken Aguero.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:50:16
Read a good piece on Sturridge :
Hope it helps form a perspective for people who have not seen him play..........

Strength
-------------
Dribbling
Long shots
Finishing
Headed attempts

Weakness
---------------
Defensive contribution
Holding on to the ball
Passing
Aerial Duels
Crossing

Style Of Play
-------------------
Likes to cut inside
Likes to play long balls
Likes to dribble
Plays the ball off the ground often
Does not dive into tackles


LiverBird


Is this from football manager?


"Weakness
---------------
Defensive contribution
Holding on to the ball
Passing
Aerial Duels
Crossing"

Should fit in well then.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:36:34
Sturridge , ince, butland, walcott

Downing cole etc will go


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:33:30
WTF I left my holiday this morning with news that sterling has signed a new deal, get off the plane and he's expected to sign in next few days. Can someone enlighten me please?


Diff time zones


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:45:16
Tello
Demba ba
Hulk
Cavani
Sturrdge
Baloteli


These would help lfc


So would Messi, Ronaldo and Iniesta.


Would also double, maybe even triple our wages


This would help liverpool to increase the wage structure??????


What formation are we going to play then!? 2-1-7?
RobInRed


According to an interview i saw with Warner "We want to increase the wage bill and buy top players" "look how we have spent at the Red Sox..." blah blah fish paste....

They a joke. Roman would've built Chelski a new stadium by the time these clowns put a coat of paint on Anfield. Proven liars - google the interviews and comments on you tube.

Still have faith in BR though. Good man.


Tom Werner does want to increase the wage bill, but to do this we need way more income than we are currently getting. Let them get on with it.


I thought that Roman had been unsuccessful in his attempt to build a new stadium in Battersea or did I get that mixed up with Rock n Rolla?

Andy K


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:27:05
I was thrilled to hear that Sterling is signing a new 5yr contract earlier today.

But my world has just fallen down having found out its the final Merlin ever on Xmas eve.. Gutted...

Wizard...


That's a strange declaration on a banter section of a football site, very strange indeed.

Papa G


That show is just awful.


Disagree Merlin is excellent.


I love Merlin too very sad.

Yvonne


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:25:44
hey lfc fans.....i will keep this short and sweet

we all know the lfc board or whomever is in charge......will YET AGAIN...get suckered into buying an overpriced british player!

"the weak lfc board saga continues"

red lobster


Shut The h#"k up about the board/owners it's boring now


"Support The Club"

Lyndon


'Support the club', says Lyndon, forgetting the amount of negativity he exuded during the previous regime.

Red Owl


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:16:56
Merry Christmas Everyone

I have heard rumours that we can get David Villa for a 4m loan fee with the option to buy, but when I looked at the betting odds Swansea are favourites to sign him. Could the eds or anyone else shed any light on this matter?

Thanks
Murton Red


Barca came out and said Villa will not be leaving in Jan. Time to put this rumour to bed.


trini_red


No it dosnt? Torres and LFC said that he wouldnt leave, then on the last January what happened? Just cause you say you're normal dosnt make you normal..¨

Chris


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:15:24
Ince's contract expires at 12 midnight on 30 June 2013 , in other words , Blackpool can want all they like but they aint going to get it !


Another club could always come in with a better offer though


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:07:47
Borini back in training!

The real AG


Sweeeeeet.

Len


Everyone who slated him is suddenly glad to have him back- typical


He needs to get in weights gym and strengthen up/toughen up

too light weight at moment


 

 

20 Dec 2012 20:04:43
Reds eds. as it is starting to look more and more likely that Rodgers has picked up Sturridge for 12 million, a player that Chelsea valued at 20million during the summer means another fine piece of work in the transfer window by Rodgers. IMO the right manager for lfc.

KUMBER {Ed002's Note - I have no idea where you have gotten your figures from.}


Wow. U def a glass half full man!


 

 

20 Dec 2012 19:42:34
can you explain how hard it is to sign south american player like how long it takes to get the work permit and makes them not aloud one etc. thanks ynwa! {Ed002's Note - The situation with work permits is that a player will be granted one if (a) he has played 75% of games at full international level for two years for a country ranked reasonably high up, or (b) if an exemption is applied for and granted under the "exceptional talent" provisions. For example, if a case is made to the authorities that a young South American is a demonstrable talent and clearly one for the future, it should be reasonably easy to have an exemption granted. If however, a pretty much run of the mill or average player was being bought and it was clear they are not appreciably better than those which could be found locally, or are being bought because they are cheap, then it will be much more difficult to obtain a work permit. The downside of the system in the UK is that the "bigger" English clubs can cherry pick the decent talent available and can obtain exemptions, and the rest of the players are assumed not to be talented enough for an exemption (as Chelsea or Manchester United etc. don't want them) and therefore obtaining the exemption is much tougher. Some players can obtain work permits through their parents or grand parents being English.}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 18:55:08
Eds, whats your opinion on Duncan Oldham? Personally i think hes a funny guy and at times speaks some sense, but how reliable do you think are his Sources? and Koptalk Sources? cheers:
con {Ed001's Note - his sources are utter nonsense, he makes up a new story every day to tempt subscribers in. Unreliable in the extreme.}


He is a class A jackass
LeeWils


Funny? Well it depends on your sense of humour, but I find him about as funny as toothache.

Speaks sense? I think Paul Merson speaks more sense than Dunk

Reliable Sources? I think his source is the same one as David Icke.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 19:00:10
Just like when Archimedes sat down in his bath and discovered the law of water displacement, before uttering those memorable words, 'Has anybody got a mop?, I too have found my Eureka moment. It's so simple that I'm surprised nobody has thought of it before.

Liverpool and Celtic should do a direct swap. The Reds go into the SPL and the Hoops go into the Premier League. In one fell swoop, everyone's problems are solved. Celtic can play in the Premiership, just as they've always wanted. Liverpool will win the League title and qualify for the Champions League every year. Stevie G gets to win his title medal after all. Best of all, because we will only be playing the likes of Falkirk, FSG can reduce the price of tickets and the genuine supporters can start to come back to Anfield, to replace the prawn sandwich and corporate brigade.

I tell you what - you can't half taste the sherry in this trifle. Oh well, Merry Christmas everyone.

redmersey


Nice 1 Red Mersey :O)
That made me giggle...

Phooey...
p.s peeps would still moan about something tho!


But if we were 12th in the SPL, then its real problem ain't it.
He, he.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 18:58:40
Let's face it, if you were a 'top player', with top prospects, then LFC presently would not be on your list of most desirable options.


No mate your right.
Sturridge may well be the best possible striker we can attract so we should be thankfull rather than write him off already.
I still believe we can attract top players just not the ones who value money or trophies over playing for such a historic club.
The problem is most of them are only after money and and most of the others are after a few easy trophies.

MIKEY


I disagree. if i were prospect with a bright future in the game id look heavily at liverpool. the team that brings us our first title in 20+ years will all be legends!!


Depends

If LFC were going places then you would have a very nice proposition to think about especially if you were from the north of England or ROI

However if you were south american/spanish/etc. perhaps not!


Wondewr why Kenny wanted that british spine running through the team perhaps he knew more than he has been given credit for?

Okay it backfired, but bad things happen to good men

Liberias31


Probably 30+ years mate...


How were we doing when we attracted Suarez?
Most people agree he is a top player.

But at the time the club was just recovering from one of it's most damaging and public meltdowns ever with the removal of Hicks and Gillett.
We just fired a manager after 23 games who churned out awful football, got awful results, signed awful players and then started abusing the fans. We had sold our star player for 50 million to a rival.
We had lost to Northampton Town in the league cup, got knocked out of the FA cup by Man Utd.

We were out of the domestic cups, he was cup-tied for the Europa Cup and we were doing terribly in the league. Yet we still attracted Suarez.

So are you saying we're in a worse state now?


Nice to see we're all really optimistic...


 

 

20 Dec 2012 18:55:51
There is nothing wrong with Sturridge, let's rather sign a player with some EPL experience and a interest in joining LFCm
We can dream about all the wonderful strikers available, reality is few will be interested in joining LFC until the club is back in the UCL (and that will certainly take some time).
Right now LFC are not the best prospect.
Tumbleweed Red.


Henderson, Carroll and Downing have bags of Premiership experience, your experience point proves nothing.

And our club is obsessed with buying ordinary young British players. Maybe FSG are thinking future transfer profits because they believe British players won't lose stock value in the Premiership. Truth is we have lost money on everyone of the British players we have signed recently. Any British player that does succeed will eventually sold for profit, and to another English club, because European clubs have better sense than to overpay for players just because they are British, try name all the Brits at Barca, Real, Bayern etc. Instead will be selling to Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and FSG won't have any problems been a feeder for these clubs.

Its not just superstars form the continent we want, we just need good players of high quality, they can be found and they don't have to cost a fortune either, a good example is Michu, and he is better than Sturirdge. How much did he cost again? And how much premiership experience did he have when Swansea signed him?

Either our owners are blindsided by possible profits, our manager is blinkered in his view of players, or our scouts too lazy to look abroad, maybe they all need a collective kick up the backside.


Manta


And if we were linked with Michu in the summer you'd have been first on here moaning about signing a no mark you'd never heard of


Brendan has bought 4 players so far and none are English. Neither is his loan signing.

In terms of the English players being linked with us they are talented and likely to improve us and look much better value for money than the deals negotiated by Comolli. The people bleating on about they are not good enough would be throwing their toys out of the pram if Spurs bid 13m for Sturridge and United offered 7m for
Ince.

PieInTheSkyMan


We will see, I think the team will not improve with Ince and Sturridge, we do know how to waste money thats for sure


Sturridge=left peg. Adds a bit of balance. So it must improve the squad.


Manta,

Hendo, carroll had 1 season of prem experience

Downing has always been average at best

Shak Attack


Excellent point Shak.
Cabernet.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 18:55:08
I think the point you miss super, is that many of us aren't objecting to other fans opinions - just other fans abuse.
I actually love the perspective gained by listening to other fans views. I have no problem with any LFC fan saying BR doesn't have a plan B, or 433 doesn't work etc (although all defensible IMO), and I like to read the replies, and occasionally chuck in my two bobs worth. BUT, what really sparks people up on here is the mindless abuse. Referring to 'Yonks', 'Brenda', 'Deadwood', etc. this abuse generates replies that abuse the abusers, and pretty soon descends into childish tit for tat. We are all LFC. Let's try and discuss our team like the knowledgeable and respectful fans we used to be.
Disagree with my views - I welcome it. But start the cheap shots because you 'pay your money so you can abuse who you want' and then I will join in. Childish I know, but post after post of conspiracy theorist rhetoric just makes an easy target.
So ozone, Waro and all our family, peace and best wishes to you all for the holiday season, keep up the banter, but try and make it vaguely constructive boys. ;)

BigBadBen


Good post BigBadBen, hopefully as our team evolves, so can this banter page.

K79


What a terrible, terrible thing to do calling Brendon Brenda. Have you ever heard of a bit of tongue in cheek Ben? If I've ever said 'yonk' in any of my posts it's by mistake or the predictive text has churned it out. As far as I'm concerned they're the yanks, just like I'd refer to any other person from America or brummie from Bham, jock from Scotland, harmless labels, lighten up son. Deadwood I agree with you.

Ozone


I tell you what Ben, it's clear from the tone of your posts you don't half think your a big shot. You've even given yourself a big shot title. You need to simmer down a bit with your right wing attitude to a conspiracy theorist, it just demonstrates what an arrogant wet behind the ear so an so you must be to dismiss it with such a flagrant disregard.

Ozone


Ozone, is this not the problem lots of people are posting about. Don't put others down to gain your own strength. What you class as harmless labels (name calling) others may see as Trolling.

I for one come here to read others views about LFC (good and bad) and post every now and then. Your second post to BigBadBen is, in my opinion, what is annoying about your posts, totally uncalled for and full of male cow dung.

K79


...and a happy new year. My apologies for such flagrant disregard.
I have tried to get my predictive text to change 'yonks' to ''yonks', but it seems I have a polite well mannered version...
However, I am dispointed that you are still slinging out insults: The 'right wing' jibe made my arrogant ears even wetter.

As my great uncle J Edgar was fond of saying 'I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate commerce.'

That made as about as much sense as your ramblings sunshine. grow up ozein. (you see, my predictive text seems to do greek versions..)

BigShot ben


What's trolling K79?

Ozone


I do enjoy these threads. Giz a shout when it's group hug time.

Len


20 Dec 2012 23:29:00
Ay? If this is in response to what I was talking to Shak about before you have taken a small part of it, and then jumped to a whole load of conclusions! Wow!

Super


You're proving his point ozone. Maybe you ought to use constructive criticism rather than plain abuse...? Maybe? Yeah probably.


I would speculate fom your defense of the owners, sensitivity to the words 'Yonkers' or 'tank' and obsession with the FBI that your from over the pond BigshotBen?

Ozone


Shh. I wish I could tell you ozone, but there is a black vehicle with tinted windows outside my house again, There is a strange click whenever I answer my phone and Ed002 has stopped taking my calls. I think theyre after me. Your my only hope. Use your guile and insight to expose them for what they are. Before they make me disappear.

B******en

(psst, I've blanked my name out, so only you will know its me...)


 

 

20 Dec 2012 18:50:28
Eds
IF we do sign sturridge and ince.. when will it be? We can't let what happened to siggursson and dempsey to future targets.
the brown man {Ed002's Note - January.}


 

 

20 dec 2012 18:34:26
people are saying sturridge is too much! well if ince and sturidge both cost 16 miliion together and sturridge was 12 million of it and ince was 4 million of it people would be going mental but if ince and sturridge were both 8 million people would compramise! cant win! i havent explained as well as i should have but if people get what im saying do you agree or disagree? eds and reds ?
redmanluka {Ed002's Note - Sturridge will not be £8M.}


I think he means that both together will cost £16 million, so it doesn't really matter how much they are individually. ie. if both cost £8 million it would be the same as Sturridge £12 million and Ince £16 million. or 9 + 7, 15 and 1 etc.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 18:29:39
Why, oh why, do we get involved with Blackpool & Oyston? We should have learnt our lesson with Adam. Watch him try and make us squirm. Makes me shudder!


He can't make us squirm ........ Ince's contract is up at midnight on 30 June .


Oust on would make anybody squirm...

ND


We'll end up giving them 10 million plus Suso for Ince and then in 18 months time we'll be buying Ince out of his contract and trying to sign Suso for 100 million plus ..........


Management at LFC please do not give Suso away he is an excellent prospect.

Sarcasm but after recent dealings you have to wonder...


 

 

20 Dec 2012 18:14:16
6m ince bid rejected.... Who do they think they are? He went from our RESERVES! To the CHAMPIONSHIP! Now I bet we're gunna end up paying 9/10m for him I really don't get it that's 22-25m on ince and sturridge? Could be jovetic,Lewandowski, llorente, maybe even Higuain... Does anyone else share my view here?


There both good players sturridge is a good player an will do well, but yeah 10m for ince is way to much for an unproven player.... The problem is these are the only players we can attract because of wages our owners have made it clear that they won't shel out huge wages...


It would be a fair point if your valuation wasn't mental.

Len


We could definitely attract top quality if we were going to offer massive transfer fees.


Haha what do u mean "who do they think they are"? Surely a club can value a player at what they think his worth is untill his contract runs out? Or am I missing something??



Peace


 

 

20 Dec 2012 18:13:33
Just out of interest, has anyone ever met anyone else as a result of this site? For friendship or more!

I await the dry, witty reply from Ed002!

El Pi**edolero {Ed002's Note - I understand that a number of teh Editors have met.}


At this rate, if we all met up I think it'd become a Battle Royal!

davethebutcher


20 Dec 2012 19:06:23
No but I'd happily go to the pub with you all for some real life banter! I'm a bit far away though :-/

Also, if someone were to try chatting someone else up the whole of the board would see it, and they would have to give out phone numbers etc...dodgy mate...

Super


I think Waro and Ozone got a room together once


Once is clearly not enough for waro and ozone, a lot of built up frustration there. Lol

MIKEY


I hear davethebutcher meets BigBadBen for his 'Super' sausages and succulent thigh...

Lee YNWA


That was davethebutcher? wow. never realised....

it was a super sausage though.....

BigBadBen


Ye MIKEY and you were in the next room to ours and kept us up all night playing on Cozinoz's didgeridoo!

Waro


Glad you had a good time BBB.

davethebutcher


Lol Waro

The Irish Rover


 

 

20 Dec 2012 18:07:54
The reason were not buying a proven goalscorer? Because we only want "young talents"? Too much long term our fans have to suffer short term its a joke of a policy with no guranteed success in future a mixture is understandable but this is terrible


No, you are quite right. We should think short term. A quick fix now so that we are not positioned well for the future. Maybe even spend really big now assuming that we will get success and leave ourselves in financial danger. Not a bad plan at all.

Andy K


Andy, it appears you're gonna have to be more obvious in future.

Len


Thanks Len, I didnt realise that dripping with sarcasm wasnt enough.

Andy K


 

 

20 Dec 2012 17:35:26
Hi Ed's - Ive used the search function but no luck. Appologies if you've covered this numerous times but, can you clarify the position with Ince with regards to the often mentioned 35% clause that LFC would receive if Blackpool were to sell to another club.

Cheers - JJ42 {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of his contract. Sorry.}


I'm told there is a sell-on clause - one of the eds says not citing we only received compensation so no sell on possible. Simply not true - Wisdom signed from Bradford and that was compo rather than a fee as he was 14. Bantams still had sell on though although I believe they cashed it in at a lower level a couple of yrs ago when they needed some dosh.

Eds also wrong about number of loans as I am sure it's 2 per club from other PL teams NOT 2 in total.

PieInTheSkyMan {Ed002's Note -


 

 

20 Dec 2012 17:32:10
Sterling has signed a new contact

LFC93


Mafeking has been relieved .......


 

 

20 Dec 2012 17:20:10
hi eds do you think suso will go on loan i think it would do him good, i know our team is thin but if we can get 1 -2 wingers/ attackers in i think he will go out on loan {Ed002's Note - I really don't know.}


If he played in the centre he would be one of our best most creative players. He's not a winger.

If it takes a loan for this to be realised then so be it. I hope its realised at fulham this weekend myself though.


I think he's a fantastic player and is really appreciative of the fans and club. I agree He should play in the middle and take Allen's place. Could be our Mata/Modric type player with the creativeness we crave against the stubborn defences


 

 

20 Dec 2012 17:13:12
heard the choice is Sturridge or Gameiro, with Brendan fancying the former.

Someone is having me off with this story I reckon, it's the only explanation. We need goals and Gameiro bangs them in, Sturridge on the other hand is a risk.

We've made this mistake before, Hendo over Gotze, Carroll over Gomez, Downing over Mata. When will we learn?!

Brendan seems to love working with his former players. Sinclair and Sigurdsson at Swansea, Allen/ Borini at Liverpool... He's moved to a bigger club with greater appeal than he's had before. Why limit himself to people he's already worked with?!


Since when has Rodgers worked with Sturridge? And when did we pick Henderson over Goetze? {Ed002's Note - He hasn't worked with Sturridge.}


The fact that you actually believe we could have signed Gotze, Gomez, or Mata is sad.


LOL what a FAIL of a post

Shak Attack


20 Dec 2012 19:08:01
Well if Bredan fancies Sturridge then that's it, only fitties for LFC :-P

Super


There you go again Shak, attacking.

Ozone


Ozone ur a bell**d mate ha enough of u tbh

Coming from the person whos negative posts has been doing everyones head in

This is a fail post coz the lad who posted it failed to do his research and is having an indirect moan at our manager Brendan Rodgers

I hope he becomes a great success so *insert swear word* like you will crawl back under the rock u came from

Shak Attack


 

 

20 Dec 2012 17:07:23
The truth is like a lion,you do not need to defend it,set it loose & it will defend itself..
St Augustine
Never forget what they did never forgive what they said. Jft 96


Nice... :o)
JFT96


 

 

20 Dec 2012 16:28:45
Hi Ed any chance we might see Sahin and Assaidi play this weekend ? {Ed002's Note - I have not picked the team yet.}


Love it Ed!!

RyanWhittington&hiscat


Have a look on official LFC website. Players training in green bibs will be in team/or on the bench. Sahin is playing with a face mask in green bib, so looks likely. aklfc


Might want to look again.... Sahin is in an orange bib.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 16:19:02
For all you slating Sturridge we should be gratefull he even considers us. We are a massive step down from Chelsea. If he moves he will be walking away from top flight European football. So stop snipping and roll out the red carpet,the top players dont even pause to think about us anymore.


You are right about stopping the sniping but he is merely giving up a place on the bench at Chelsea.


A step down... You having a laugh aren't you!


Completly agree with ya on giving him a chance i think he will be a great signing but sorry dont agree about him walking away from top flight european football as he would of been in the europa just like us with no guarentee of champions league football next year


 

 

20 Dec 2012 16:12:26
We must do 3 signings
1.Lucas Biglia(next masherano)
2.Kevin Gameiro(loan,because Sturridge maybe will not be good signing)
3.Thomas Ince(a good winger with Suso and Sterling as backups(Sterleng needs a rest))


Suso is an AM and should play centrally behind Suarez not wide. He is not blessed with great pace.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 16:11:23
STURRIDGE IS NOT THE ANSWER AND THAT'S OFFICIAL

Well at least that's what most of the preening, self-opiniated posters seem to think who post on the site. After all, all they say is gospel as they have supported the club since they were lads and bleed red. So do well mate ..... so do we all!

The guy has not kicked a ball for us and yet we run him down. What the hell are you lot expecting Brendan Rodgers to do? Consult every fan on every transfer? Life doesn't work that way; we elect MPs through a ballot and let them get on with representing us - that's more important than football and yet we expect BR and managers to consult us on every aspect of how the club is run.

There seems to be a real issue with fans (and particularly LFC fans) who think they own the club - no, it belongs to the people who shelled out millions to buy it and that they should be asked who to sign. Ask 100 LFC fans who we should buy and we get 127 players! The road to madness.

It's a bit like the malarkey with players' contracts: players are employees and set period for a set fee. Probably 1-2% see it as a contract for life, the rest don't - like we don't on our own jobs!

Give Sturridge a chance and if you don't like the way the club is run then write to the management. Just stop posting like you were all experts in a field we all think we're experts in.

7ER


The answer is Jesus!.
So get on your knees and pray you heathen!.
Xmas banter rules.


Nope. Jesus is coming in to replace Pepe. Bit dodgy on crosses but as everyone knows, Jesus saves!


 

 

20 Dec 2012 16:08:11
All the talk at the moment seems to be about signing strikers. My first priority would be to stop the ease at which teams seems to get at our defense. We have to score 2 or 3 goals just to get a point. This has to stop.

Although we have a lot of midfield players the whole balance is wrong. We need another to play alongside Lucas in the mold of a Souness or McMahon. There is no-one on the books who can do this job. If we have to sell a couple of players to get the right man in then so be it. One top striker is then needed.
The main emphisis should be on quality not quantity. If teams like Swansea can pay £2 million for Michu then what the hell is our scouting team doing. Sorry if this sounds like a rant, just don't get me started on agents fees.


20 Dec 2012 16:36:58
Jordan Henderson alongside lucas with gerrard pushed up behind suarez maybe....suso to get some games while resting gerrard too and shelvey to be shelved in the short term so he can refocus. Sahin backup to Henderson to play alongside lucas and allen needs a rest so give him a rest


 

 

20 Dec 2012 16:01:38
what the hell was the point winning the group when we can get a cl drop out team real joke of a system they got running


I thought winning your group also meant you played at home first, so if extra time in 2nd leg, you would have the advantage of getting away goals. Ah well, we will beat them anyway. aklfc


 

 

20 Dec 2012 15:58:52
According to Daily Star, there would be also Liverpool tracking the striker Kevin Gameiro (25), at the moment in PSG. They will track him, if they'll not be able to sign Daniel Sturridge of Chelsea. Gameiro worth is about 10 million pounds.

go for nene of psg he is in his last year in psg will not cost much.

hhh


The star is 3rd rate bog roll at best. If you need naked ladies to sell your "news"paper......

Len


 

 

20 Dec 2012 15:49:25
rodgers has confirmed that the sturridge and ince rumours arnt true,can yus confirm that this is just speculation {Ed002's Note - No he hasn't.}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 15:40:35
Bent is not injured as lambert would have you believe. Villa just don't want to pay Sunderland the few mill they owe them if he plays a couple more games. He's been strongly linked with cardiff on loan, and I know a few low end prem clubs are in for him


 

 

20 Dec 2012 15:20:33
sturridge is not the answer. he is not good enough at all. we need a good striker not that greedy sturridge


Have you seen how much we pass around the penalty box? A greedy striker could get us lot more goals...


Sturridge is more than capable of getting 15 goals a season, and that will do me. He would be a very decent signing. And a hell of a lot better than most of our second strikers in recent years.
The Juicer


Strikers need to be greedy. Cake and eat it anybody?


 

 

20 Dec 2012 15:20:29
I like the approach of not repeating answers on these pages “ by saying ˜use the search function' there are lots of bits and bytes being saved which reduces the electricity used to display and transfer the data which in turn reduces global warming. So, we can see that using the search function saves the lives of baby polar bears in the Antarctic.
We can all contribute to this effort by not asking the same questions over and over again. Frankly, we know if a question has been asked before, it's just being lazy asking it again and being told to use the search function “ so if you want to make a post asking a question simply type ˜?' “ then go use the search function.
Likewise, if you want to post that you are unhappy with the current management, previous management or future management you can simply post ˜ ˜ and then search for posts for everyone that agrees or disagrees with you. Also, when you want to state such and such player is not very good (or words to that effect) just type in ˜is' then search for the player name and you will be able to see all the other 6000 posts saying the same thing “ from the 3 original posters.
Also, if you would like to post your opinion on how the club should be run but resort to calling everyone that doesn't agree with you an person then go buy yourself an etch-a-sketch.

MartinR


 

 

20 Dec 2012 15:04:22
Sahin has a face mask due to braking his nose and is playing vs fulham
He is going to look like batman
the rise of the Nuricorn is nigh


That's a real shame. To be fair to the lad he is the best looking on the team.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 14:53:42
Jesus lads, it's been like a teenage bitch fight on here the last couple days. Why don't you all put your tampons back in and calm down, it's just an Internet forum!

davethebutcher


Think i doubled up with them mate, nice and cosy now and back to normal. did the trick that. thnaks :-)
huddz red


I wouldn't advise re-using an old tampon. I know we're in a recession but thats not the way to go girls.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 14:50:44
How can anyone slag off Sturridge when he hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet. Lets forget all of this negativity and get behind the lad and whoever else Brendan brings in. We will become great again and we all need to be rowing in the same direction as a club.


Are you joking?

Haven't you seen his stats on FM2013?

Not worth 8 million


 

 

20 Dec 2012 14:43:17
Guys, seriously?

We're all fans with an opinion, who appreciate good old fashioned debate, banter..

What I'm reading lately sounds like little kids arguing who's Dad is stronger....

I can appreciate both sides of the argument tbh. Waro and Ozone's perspective re failure and failure from the clubs management, ergo - our slide down the table since 2008-2009.

But I can also appreciate others opinions re patience. We need to come together, whether you go to games or not. Restore some PRIDE ffs. Sing, laugh joke...Not ridicule? Hey, I love shouting at Downing, because I WANT him to succeed...

It's painful, but it's where we're at.

Please, no more bitch***, mines bigger etc = It's just embarrassing.

I'll discuss(debate) and contribute, but when this constant bickering is going on, what's the point?

Lee YNWA


Well said Lee


Good post Lee.

Ozone


Mine IS bigger than Lee's though

M. Aurelius


Agreed. At this time of year, when Santa delivered baby Jesus to Mary under the Christmas tree, it should be a time of unity not factions.

MERRY CHRISTMAS LADS.

Now let's ruin Fulham.

JFT 96

JP


It's my ball, and if I don't win I will take it home!

Phooey...


 

 

20 Dec 2012 14:17:23
Sturridge in £12m - no CFC future - he wants the move - 10 goals in second half of season
Ince in £4m - happy to come back now that first team is possible - at least 5 assists in 2nd half of season
Ba to Arsenal £7-8m
Carroll sold to Newcastle to replace Ba £12m

What would be the odds 500-1 ? worth a punt


20 Dec 2012 14:58:07
Why would Newcastle pay more for a lesser player?


First time poster here
Definitely worth a punt, even at a fraction of the odds.
I for one am eagerly anticipating Sturridge's arrival as he will come with a point to prove to the likes of Mr Hodgson, Chelsea, his new team and the, seemingly millions of, doubters up and down the country. He has all the raw credentials to be a top striker for years to come i.e. pace, touch, good strike with either foot and a hunger to score. If BR can channel his greediness and, much talked about, attitude we could have one hell of a player on our hands and the £12m lay out would seem a snip. It may be ifs and buts right now but they are far from unrealistic and should they come to fruition there will be a few people eating humble pie on this site alone.
YNWA


 

 

20 Dec 2012 14:00:08
Looking forward to zenit, will be a big test but thats the only way of getting to a better standard. Hope we can bring some decent signings to bolster our attack. Not fussed on names and reputations, just attitudes and performances. I still think there will be a couple of left field signings, think about it ... the media have run and run with the ince and sturridge rumours.. mainly cause there is no other rumours going around.. we need a striker and chelsea wanna sell one of their strikers.

Who knows.. but hopefully there is positivity to follow because i love this site and i dont wanna see the ear bashing the eds take sending them crazy, eapecially over the xmas period.


Happy xmas to eds and reds alike.

Aussiepool tristan


It must be the name that makes you speak sense.

Tristan


Or the nationality?

Andy K


 

 

20 Dec 2012 13:50:05
i think most important liverpool need to build foundations first such as skrtel suarez etc signing new contracts then it has the effect of showing players have belief in rodgers to succeed furthermore with the chance to attract player to the club what liverpool need to do is sign foreign player who have potential to shine


They both signed new contracts earlier this year

BigDan


 

 

20 Dec 2012 13:44:35
Round of 16

Anzhi or Hannover v Newcastle United or Metallist
Tottenham Hotspur or Lyons v Inter of Cluj
Basel or Dnipro v Zenit or Liverpool
Ajax or Steaua v Sparta Prague or Chelsea

If we can scale the round of 32, Round of 16may do us a little good.

YNWA,
O'seunfunmi


Tough draw IMO, Skrtel's experience may come in handy! Certainly doable though.

HK


Have you seen Dnipro play lately, they're a good side and Basel aren't bad either

We never win a trophy easy so you never know

K-Man


We shouldn't underestimate Zenit either, they may not be in good form at the moment but they certainly have the players to turn it around.


Please correct me if I am wrong.
Isn't the Russian league on a 3 month break now, so it may suit us.
Tumbleweed Red.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 13:36:55
Zenit vs Liverpool
Newcastle vs Metallist
Sparta Prague vs Chelsea
Tottenham vs Lyons

So goes the draws for Europa.

YNWA
O'seunfunmi (Anfield Red)


 

 

20 Dec 2012 13:34:41
LFC vs Zenit...I have a "two birds with one stone" solution. Splurge on Hulk - we solve both league and Europa issue!

Well, one can dream...

Doha Red


Hulk is seriously overated


Hulk is too one dimensional.


Plus, I hear he has EXTREME anger issues......I know it's a bad joke but after all the negativity I'm just trying to cheer us all up.

mozzilfc


 

 

20 Dec 2012 13:32:42
Liverpool gets Zenit St Petersburg in round of 32.


O'seunfunmi (Anfield Red)


 

 

20 Dec 2012 13:11:45
Liverpool will not be in for the big players on big wages. The owners gave 100m and got noting in return due to bad luck of hitting the woodwork so many times....

Liverpool will be only snapping up future young English talent, and the odd European bargain of Hypia, Hamann etc.,,,and the odd player who would rather play football than sit on the bench of the big mercenary clubs.
7ft Red


Then you predict an ever persistent winter at LFC - a nuclear winter f you will

I can feel it droping to sub zero already, I love the christmas cheer


I'm sure FSG's business outlook hasn't been altered because of 'wood'.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 13:05:17
Ed, if Sturridge signs for us, will he be eligible to play for us in the Europa League, since Chelsea is in the competition as well? Singred {Ed002's Note - No.}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 12:54:23
Hello Eds.
I have 2 questions for u.
1. Do lfc have any interest in gremeiro. And if sturidge deals does falls throught who u think will be his alternative.
2. Second question is nt abt transfer. I want to knw when europe league draw will be held.
Thanx.
Plz reply. Ur response will b much appreciated. {Ed002's Note - (1) I am not aware of any interest being declared to PSG - it seems no more than speculation right now. (2) The draw will take place about 1315 UK time.}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 12:52:27
I'm sure Waro, Irish Rover, Liverbird and Bob the Red will tell us that Downing and Carroll are in fact good players, money well spent and it's actually BR's fault that they've been guff, that King Kenny would have gotten the best out of them.
How far up in someone's **** can you be?

Ray Burmeister


Obviously too far in your opinion

Whether thats the reality of the situation or not depends on your perception

Liberias31


Carroll is not at Liverpool and Downing has hardly played that much in the league (especially in his proper position). You cant blame them for Liverpools poor results this season and being knocked out of the only trophy we had won in ages.

The Irish Rover


Mr Ray Burmeister

I urge you to read my posts carefully before commenting...

I have said previously that Downing could not make the transition to a big club mentally....

The tools in terms of talent is still there but I have to agree that when you take into account his transfer fee, his wages, his age, his contribution and the game time given to him...HE HAS BEEN A FAILURE...

Andy Carroll is a different case...In 2004, Did you know there was a 25 year old striker called Drogba before he was introduced by Jose Mourinho?...Andy has the same potential..He is just 23..Strikers of his ilk are not at their best until they reach 25-26...Look at other strikers like him...
Fernando Llorente - started scoring at 24 (benefitted from playing at the same club)
Christian Vieri - Started scoring at 25

It is unfortunate that Brendan Rodgers has simply thrown him out of the equation..

When he matures by the time he is 26-27, we will repent why we did not persist with a special talent like him....Dont play him regularly but keep him in the squad...

Are you aware that Liverpool played 37 crosses against Aston Villa hoping that some one gets at the end of it....

Wasnt it a long ball which resulted in us getting a draw at Anfield on 4th November?

And to be fair, he never got a fair chance even under Dalglish...Its never Andy's fault that Liverpool decided to buy him for 35 million and then dump him just 18 months later out of which he was injured for 6 months...

Even a manager like Fergusson has persisted with players like Anderson and Nani when they have clearly not performed as expected...

If you cannot respect players who are already there, how can you respect those who come in?

LiverBird


 

 

20 Dec 2012 12:19:42
Any chance of that striker from Makalalala? The one who is 8 foot and played against us.


LOL i loved this post... i know who your on about.. he scored if i remember correctly, Lacina Traoré?

Tiz YNWA =D


 

 

20 Dec 2012 12:18:22
We should buy:
Ince (just about nailed on)
Sturridge (Most likely striker to buy)
Sissoko (Toulouse)
New keeper, sell Reina
Godin
And possibly Isla


Where do we get the money from?

Santa's Sack maybe?


Give this guy a job as chief scout please.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 12:15:16
Is Downing leaving in January? He will probaly go back to Villa or go back to north east to Sunderland. Hope he leaves.


IMO he is not PL level. Perhaps sell him to championship club? Black pool?


 

 

20 Dec 2012 12:13:20
Whats this about Arsenal going for Reina. I think we should take the offer if its good enough and buy someone better. He has been playing terrible for a few seasons now, past his best.


Its best for Reina and LFC it he gets a new start he gone stale at LFC

Reina probably does not want to openly look like he wants a move as he does not want the Torres treatment however it would be better for both parties if he flew south.

Two years in the doldrums is tooo long.

Liberias31


I think lfc should only sell him if they offering more than 12m for him


Reading all these posts about reina, i keep getting flashbacks, about a former player called brad freidel,and wondering if we were to sell him would we live to regret it.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 12:11:29
Ed's, did you not recieve my post earlier?

Apples ;96; {Ed002's Note - I saw one earlier.}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 12:02:38
Hi Eds,

Read somewhere that WestHam might consider cancelling Andy Carroll's loan contract. Will BR welcome him back? And who pays his wages while he is injured
PKMLFC {Ed002's Note - I depends on the agreement between the clubs and whether or not an insurance claim is made.}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 12:41:51
So the mancs have drawn madrid, that will be the game of games, i actually got a sneaky feeling united will snake it at home tho


Fergie says ronaldo is on a par with messi time for him to prove it r fergies forgeting how messi put his team to the sword twice.Tommy Irish Red


 

 

20 Dec 2012 11:30:20
last season we hand more shots on goal than any other team in the league,we had more shots that hit the post&crossbar than any other team,we had the 3rd best defencive record ,only city &united had better than us,so ablind man & his dog could see all we needed was 1or2 quality strikers to finish all those chances off.........
so what do the owners do ,they sack the manager ,,& go in search for amanager that will do what hes told ,a yes man,they told him get rid of most of the high earners ,only buy up & coming young players on low wages,just look at the signings he made,all under 23years of age hence why dempsey didnt come on last day,
fsg dont have aclue how football works,so if lorente ,huntelaar, etc are available for pittence theyll not be on liverpools radar cause of there age & wages
so we all cant blame rodgers for the state of our squad hes only done what he was told to do
IRISH RED


The squad is a lot better than last seasons

We're not halfway through the season yet

And the 2nd half of the season in KD's reign had us in the relegation zone in regards to form

The future is looking much brighter we just need to win a couple on the bounce then evrything will be rosey again

Shak Attack


I agree with the part about kenny, disagree about rodgers, i don't fancy huntelaar.
derryred


Tame weak shots from not great goal scoring positions? Most by Suarez trying to force them whilst off balance.


Why some posters just attack Kenny and refuse to look at the factors that led to the demise of LFC performances in the seacond half of the season is a mystery (well I know why they do this but it would be offside to say why).

Yeah Down with Kenny who has such a terrible record with LFC and long live BR who has do nothing and proabably never will do nothing at LFC.

(Hope the sarcasm is recognised).


Liberias31


Oh my god shak how can u say the squad is a lot stronger now that for me shows u are in la la land we got rid of bellamy maxi kuyt carrol replaced with borrini and allen just a rediculas post

mike


You're inability to spell is ridiculous. we were awful the second half of last season, and hitting the woodwork is irrellevant. We have a better team now than we did last year thanks to Rodgers getting ale house player Carroll out of the picture, and Adam, also terrible. The ageing high earners who left were replaced in the squad by young talented players and will i'm sure prove to be a masterstroke in the next couple of years. I love kenny, he's done a lot for liverpool as a city and a club and was a world class brilliant player, and in his first spell as manager and at blackburn very succesful. However our transfer dealings last year suarez apart were atrocious, and very expensive, and this is highlighted by the fact that we will struggle to get half back on what we shelled out, it's not about 'we were unlucky, kenny would have got it right' that is denial.
Ant


I disagree there...

Kenny bought a team which would rely on pace and power going forward...Thats why he fought for a 3 year deal rather than a shorter one which FSG wanted...

Just step back and think which teams have won the Premier League in the past seasons....

BlackBurn - LeSaux, Sutton, Shearer,Batty, Sherwood

Man Utd - Keane, Giggs, Yorke, Beckham, Cole (RVN -later in 2003)

Arsenal - Overmars, Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, Viera, The famous back four

Chelsea - Terry, Drogba, Essien, Robben, Lampard, Ballack

Man City - Kolarov, Barry, Kompany, Toure, Balotelli, Milner


What is common between all these sides?

PACE and POWER

So if you are aiming for the premier League you need to buy players who can bully the opposition on cold wet night in winter north of country...

The missing jigsaw was PACE which wasn't there in the team...plus lack of goal scoring....

Kenny knew this and would have rectified it in the summer.....But FSG pulled the trigger...

I have little hope that we will win the title but I am hopeful that the qualities which Brendan Rodgers has will take us to top four....He is a good manager and coach and his game management should hold us in good position if proper players are brought in.....

But blaming Kenny is lack of knowledge I believe..We never saw him continue his project leave alone completing it....

But that doesnt mean we cant get behind BR...But it should not unconditional....

LiverBird


Ant -

'You're inability to spell is ridiculous'

I pissed it laughing and stopped reading after that....

This site has all of them....

BJH YNWA


Why does it have to be so polaric? Rafa or Kenny or BR? Rafa did lots of good and some bad, Kenny did lots of good and some bad, so far BR has done lots of good and some bad. None of these are opinions, just the reality of life. I personally like things about all three.

Andy K


So Shak if the squad is better this year, then the problem must be the manager!.


What good has BR actually done.
You must mean the 5 wins from 17 games.
Most other clubs would have sent him packing already.
Not LFC, because we love mediocrity!.


BR has introduced youth players into the set up, reduced the age of the team, set a clear structure of play through out the club, reduced the wage bill, got us through the group stage of the Europa, for starters.

Andy K


 

 

20 Dec 2012 11:30:20
last season we hand more shots on goal than any other team in the league,we had more shots that hit the post&crossbar than any other team,we had the 3rd best defencive record ,only city &united had better than us,so ablind man & his dog could see all we needed was 1or2 quality strikers to finish all those chances off.........
so what do the owners do ,they sack the manager ,,& go in search for amanager that will do what hes told ,a yes man,they told him get rid of most of the high earners ,only buy up & coming young players on low wages,just look at the signings he made,all under 23years of age hence why dempsey didnt come on last day,
fsg dont have aclue how football works,so if lorente ,huntelaar, etc are available for pittence theyll not be on liverpools radar cause of there age & wages
so we all cant blame rodgers for the state of our squad hes only done what he was told to do
IRISH RED


Spot on IRISH RED.

Waro


Bang on mate. But we've gotta trust Brenden now and get behind the team because no1 else will. Everyone knows the entire league is Man Utd based and the officials and media love to see Liverpool fail. So fk um all and get behind the lads and the manager coz the seasons still young and who knows we may put a run together yet and get 4th


 

 

20 Dec 2012 11:18:46
I think our worst signing of all was BR. I mean 8 million pounds for a manager who is taking us to 12th. We would have been better of using that money on a striker.


Next time you should leave your name so everyone on this site will know who to not bother reading.

AndyKopLiverpool


But if we had won on Saturday we would now be 7th , after having to effect significant change........and you may be feeling different?

Shushyboy


Have the kids broken up for the Xmas holidays already? Man, I must be getting old...


Sir you really are a cynical LFC Scrooge...


 

 

20 Dec 2012 11:06:50
Don't listen to the press, i am 99% sure that Ince will be a Liverpool player by the end of January

LFC93


I'm 100% sure we will look like complete tools if he re-signs.


Did barcelona look like tools for resigning Fabregas?

If he wasnt let go to Arsenal he would not be the same player just like if we kept Tom Ince he would still be rotting in the reserves.


I'm 100% sure we wouldn't look like tools if he starts scoring goals and setting up assists. I'm 100% sure everyone would be saying what a shrewd move it was to get him back.

JFT 96

JP


Barca have rebought, United have rebought, Madrid have rebought. Shocking clubs, all. They must be so embarassed.

Andy K


 

 

20 Dec 2012 11:05:49
to leyland wool

thanks for the offer mate but realy need two....gotta take the bird!
harry h


 

 

20 Dec 2012 10:54:51
Bit of a strange question but does anyone know of a phone that can get the footy streams on it. I assume it will need flash player?


I don't think you can mate. Give it another year or 2 and phones will have flash player by then.

FowlerGod.


Yeah I can on my I phone just download sky fire from the App Store and that allows you to play flash video so I can watch the games on www.firstrowsports hope that helps
James {Ed001's Note - you can on most phones, for Android phones you just need to go to Adobe's site and download it from there. Not sure about Windows 8 or 7.8 ones though.}


There's an app that you can get for the iphone called Skyfire. It lets you play flash video's and therefore watch the footy! :)

Crowman.


Sorry you can tell i don't have a smart phone, i know you can get sky go and tv catch up on your phone but i was thinking of the streams you get off whats not off sky and what not like myp2p streams....

FowlerGod.


Nice one, I'm never gonna miss a game again no matter where in the world I am!


I have a HTC Sensation XE that comes with Flash Player and you can watch the footy on it :)


 

 

20 Dec 2012 10:52:20
I've recently put £50 on Jerome Sinclair becoming the youngest ever scorer for the 1st team in a competitive match. The odds were 4-1 and the currrent holder is Owen at 17 years 143 days. Sinclair is currently 16 and 90(ish) days.
Anyone like my chances?


Is it just for PL games or can be in Europe aswell ?
Pass on the link where you put it on at.

FowlerGod.


It's for all competitive games in major comps so yeah cups are all good. Only friendlies wont count.
I had to write to Ladbrooks to get some odds and they called my back with a reference number and told me it was £100 max bet. The ref. number is 10034.


What age is ibe {Ed002's Note - Just 17.}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 10:52:09
Thomas Ince + Daniel Sturridge.... I can't be the only one who feels slightly underwhelmed by these potentail signings.

Our squad is thread-bare, we have youngsters grafted into the first XI because we have no choice - don't get me wrong they have done very well and it will only enhance their career - but surely if we want results we need to blood them in more cautiously, as opposed to starting Sterling in every single game, for example.

I would honestly prefer that we wait until summer if quality players cannot be found in January. If I had a choice over playing the youngsters continuously or signing a couple of mediocre players I know what I would choose, regardless of the baptism of fire that it can be for those young players in the squad.

Ince and Sturridge are both young, overpriced and overrated English players - something I thought we would have learnt to approach with extreme caution with given our recent record. Ince has done well at Blackpool but let us not forget that is the Championship, there is a big difference in class. Let us also remember that we let Ince go 18 months ago due to attitude problems for a measley 250k. Now we look likely to re-sign him for £6 million. This sort of business operation is exactly the reason why we have faltered for the past 2 decades. It is not simply that I don't see Ince being a first teamer that galls me, but that we are paying £5.75m to buy back a player who was determined to hold us to ransom 18 months ago - were is the business sense?

Daniel Sturridge worries me even more. The guy has a huge ego. HUGE. He believes he is better than what he is, he is greedy with the ball and clumsy on it. Most players, if provided the service you get at Chelsea, will score. Look at Torres! He is shot as a player an still has an o.k scoring record there. Sturridge will not come cheap - I personally always worry when a club challenging for CL places sells off a player to a supposed rival (surely what we aim to be if not actually at that level yet). There is a reason he is not wanted there - if people are expecting him to be some sort of goal scoring saviour then they are going to be sorely dissappointed. The big worry for me is, as a club, we are in a delicate financial position where we cannot afford to make big mistakes (like we did with Kenny at the helm) in the transfer market. If we fail to get this January and this summer's transfer windows right then we are going to be in long term trouble and probably drift into obscurity as the funds are simply not there to keep correcting management mistakes.

I know it is unlikely now but I hope there is a turnaround in these transfer operations by Rodgers, Ayre, FSG etc etc. If we have to wait until summer to get the right player for the club then that is what we should do - it is the best course of action for the club. Andy Carroll is a picture perfect example of why panic buying in January should be avoided. Prices are high (especially for English players) and quality is often not at the desired level for players available in January (I know we got Suarez in January but he was scouted extensively and was coming regardless of a Torres sale so slightly different circumstance, hardly a panic buy).

Borini will be back in January so the squad will look in slightly better shape, I hope we keep the money we're looking to spend on Ince and Sturridge and make higher quality, shrewd pruchases in summer - as dramatic as it sounds our future as a top club depends on it. We are on the precipice as the moment, we've been absent from the Champions League for 3 seasons and I don't think any realistic fans are expecting us to make it this year either. We have to be smart and have to build up our team in the right way - I do not think Sturridge or Ince are the answer (Ince in particular baffles me) - if the right player is available for the right price, or even an slightly exaggerated price, in January then by all means we should make a move. I do not have faith in Sturridge or Ince being the right players for the club at the moment. Does anyone else have a counter argument to suggest otherwise?

SMc

p.s am enjoying the way we've played this season, think there are a lot of positives despite the doom an gloom many people propogate this season, this post is relating specifically to transfer policy and nothing more.


I think they are both crap just like Allen and Borini.


Its all in your mind because they're british...they have good stats

Have faith they're improvements on our current starting 11

Shak Attack


20 Dec 2012 15:10:52
@ Shak Attack

hmmm no, the starting XI isn't good enough, thats why we keep faltering and why we are in the markey for re-enforcements. Don't agree with the other posters comments about Borini, i thought he was doing well and was unfortunate to be injured so early into his Liverpool career. Allen, however, has really disappointed and is starting to look like a bad piece of business for 15million... don't see Rodgers dropping him anytime soon though.

It really isn't in my mind - British players don't bother me if they are high calibre. If we got Walcott I'd be really really happy. Walcott is on a different plain to Sturridge yet it is the latter who we look most likely to sign. £12m for what? An egotistical, greedy player who barely gets a game for Chelsea? I certainly don't think a team in our financially precarious position can be affording to waste anymore money - Sturridge is that, a waste of money.

The Ince transfer just baffles me and sums up our amateurish approach off the field. However, he is playing well in the Championship - no guarantees he will be a world beater at Premier league level, he is not going to be a signing that changes anything this season for us and probably not a lot next season either. We need players, we have a limited budget and the ones we seem intent on signing fall a long way short of the standard we need to improve the team - these signings are adding to the mediocrity, not improving on it.

Good stats? I hope that's sarcasm. A stat proves nothing, we found that out with Comolli and his stats on Downing - if that is what we are basing our transfers on then expect plenty bad pieces of business to be conducted in future. Stats do not tell the full story and certainly shouldn't be used as a barometer to assess a players ability. This transfer window could have broad implications for our club over the next 2-3 seasons if not longer, if we mess it up then we are in a lot of trouble - these signings are not good enough.

SMc


Exactly Smc. Shak is more confused than Scooby Doo. He will probably come on here and blame Kenny for that post.

Waro


SMc,

I think you have more or less hit the notes correctly....

Particularly with Walcott..

But lets support them once they are IN...

I am still baffled why we dont hit the continent for players (esp Spain, Geramany, Belgium, France)..

Buying Ince and Sturridge is no achievement in scouting as many other clubs were trying to get them...

When will we get a Benteke, Michu or Kompany?

Brendan Rodgers needs to find a pearl...

LiverBird


As long as a player shows hunger and desire whilst wearing the red shirt they will always have my support.

SMc


 

 

20 Dec 2012 10:45:54
Ed in a player contract, are they paid all year round? 52 weekly payslips?
If so, joe cole costs us, at 90k a week, £4,680,000. No wonder the lad wont budge. Roy what was you thinking!
Benny baller {Ed002's Note - At premier league level players are paid year round. Cole's wages include a significant additional amount covering his signing on fee that was spread over the length of his contract. His arrival was nothing to do with Roy Hodgson.}


Aye, it was Christian Purslow, playing football manager. Stupid Banker who negotiated some of the most ruinous deals possible. HOPELESS!


"I'm delighted for the club," Kennedy told BBC Sport. "Roy has persuaded one of the best English players in the game to come in and that will only be good news for the club and for the players the club are looking to hold on to.

"I've been an admirer of Joe's for the last few years. He is a player that excites fans and he is a player that we desperately needed.
"Credit for that has to go to Roy Hodgson, I believe - he is a very persuasive man and a man well respected in football, so that's fantastic news." {Ed002's Note - Hodgson made it very clear that it was nothing to do with him.}


So its true hes getting over 100k a week? And im pretty sure roy was the manager when cole signed....no?
Benny baller {Ed002's Note - I don't see the need to discuss wages. The deal for Cole had been agreed prior to Hodgson arriving.}


Remember the day he signed i was delighted cant blame roy for that signing all the rest were brutal cole for free imo at the time souned like getting a 12 to 15m player for nothing. i would put on a par in todays players as maybe getting milner for nothing.Tommy Irish Red


 

 

20 Dec 2012 10:10:38
This is a serious post not necessarily related to Liverpool, yet involving one particular man.

Anyone think that Chelsea can win the league?

Good odds.

I'm getting on it anyway.

Bring on the wrath of the ridicule!!

DaveyBootle


At the odds it's not a bad shout that Davey.

Waro


Just because they won leeds!?
They didn't look too good in 1st half.
13 points behind now.... looking quite slim but depending who they get in Jan (Flacao) Then this could be a possibility.

FowlerGod.


If Rafa secures a world class DM in january alongside a striker they could probably go on to win a few trophies.

he'll be scouring europe/world for a mascherano/lucas 'type' player to aid his preferred system. CFC never replaced Essien after his injury for me.

i say this with a heavy heart!

s.p


If Rafa secures a world class DM in january alongside a striker they could probably go on to win a few trophies.

he'll be scouring europe/world for a mascherano/lucas 'type' player to aid his preferred system. CFC never replaced Essien after his injury for me.

i say this with a heavy heart!

s.p


Why are you even Thinking about how Chelsea can improve for!

Ah! A Rafa fan not a Liverpool Fan.

Lyndon


Broaden your mind a little Lyndon


I'll give it a try!!

Lyndon


ABU all the way lets face we r not going to win it and why not hope rafa does well he is a great man who only tried his best for our club and had to put up with them persons hicks and wicks.Tommy Irish Red


With Benitez you never know :)

He is a magician in the land of people who think they are magicians

LiverBird


They can win the league, but the bookies are rarely wrong.

I'd struggle to see them catching Man Utd.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 09:20:19
Dan sturridge will be good for this team, hasn't even signed and you're all slagging him off! Tits try getting behind the team for once


Totally agree. People (the dim ones) keep saying 96 appearances 26 goals. But how many of those appearances were as a sub for the last 5-10 min of games. He had a good run of games at Bolton and scored something like 10 in 12 apps then the first half of last season at Chelsea he scored 15 or there abouts. Then there's the people sayin he can't even get in the Chelsea team but how many players would get in the team ahead of drogba and anelka with the form they were in and then there's Torres who's probably picked every game because the owner says so. Attitude aside he's a great player with a fantastic left foot, not many players can hit a ball like this lad can.

Eric the red


I never seen a player who was wanted less at a club. He is crap, overrated, thinks he is as good as Messi, never passes the ball. 12 million to much.


Why dont intelligent, rational posters like the OP leave their name?

Need more of those types of posters on this site

Shak Attack


Do you know him?

I have never seen any quote from him stating he is as good as messi - please provide links when making such allegations or is this complete inane drivel that you have made up. Please also define crap - I would have thought that this is another sweeping statement when the player has played in the PL and for England. better goal scoring record than our current players

Leeds red


20 Dec 2012 12:46:07
What so being intelligent is about agreeing with you Shak? The great thing about this site is that people display a range of opinions, the not so good thing is when people get shot down for daring to disagree! Many people were disappointed with Downing and Adam 18 months ago, and it looks like their gut feeling was right! Just lay off, if you don't like what someone says hit disagree and move on, it's getting boring all this not being allowed to say anything negative about our own club

Super


So let me get this straight super

Some posters are allowed to disgracefully slate our manager, young players, senior players, board and future transfer targets but im not allowed to tell them about themselves and how pathetic they are?

You're allowed to have ur opinion but im not allowed to share mine?

LOL fix up mate

Shak Attack


20 Dec 2012 14:43:35
The thing is, people on here are attacking the poster and not the opinion. making out like someone knows nothing about football because they don't think Brendan is the right manager for us is just childish! I happen to think BR is great for LFC but people are allowed a differing opinion! I also happen to think the squad, as much as I love them have been lazy and need a kick up the ass - don't mean I'm secretly a Manc supporter! Here's how it goes...

Poster 1: "I think BR is a person, sack him!"

Poster 2: "I disagree with you, he has greatly reduced our wage bill, and his tactics are good. He did say all along his was a long term project"

Super


Technically no your not Shak. It's not a school detention centre it's an LFC forum where fans should be able to come and say what hey want whether it be positive or negative.

Ozone


The reality is somewhere in the middle.

He is a good coach/manager
He is not a great coach/manager

BR has the opportunity to prove that he can a great manager...The onus is on him to progress and grow...

LiverBird


I think the point you miss super, is that many of us aren't objecting to other fans opinions - just other fans abuse.
I actually love the perspective gained by listening to other fans views. I have no problem with any LFC fan saying BR doesn't have a plan B, or 433 doesn't work etc (although all defensible IMO), and I like to read the replies, and occasionally chuck in my two bobs worth. BUT, what really sparks people up on here is the mindless abuse. Referring to 'Yonks', 'Brenda', 'Deadwood', etc. this abuse generates replies that abuse the abusers, and pretty soon descends into childish tit for tat. We are all LFC. Let's try and discuss our team like the knowledgeable and respectful fans we used to be.
Disagree with my views - I welcome it. But start the cheap shots because you 'pay your money so you can abuse who you want' and then I will join in. Childish I know, but post after post of conspiracy theorist rhetoric just makes an easy target.
So ozone, Waro and all our family, peace and best wishes to you all for the holiday season, keep up the banter, but try and make it vaguely constructive boys. ;)

BigBadBen


Thats a contradiction Ozone

Embrassing urself again

Shak Attack


 

 

20 Dec 2012 09:15:19
If sterling had left 16 months ago for whatever reason would you all be here slagging off the club for signing him back?

Give ince a chance he's got pace, skill and knows how to put the ball in the net, something we lack.

K-Man


We should never have let Ince go in the first place,


Boy from Fulham (funny name with a K) playing on the left looks a bad mistake as well.

We seem to have issues with foreigners at LFC. Sterling a regular, Suso faded out. If an unfit passed it Cole is a better bet than a young hardworking Pacheco then f#k knows.

What does Coates have to do to get a game? Change his name to Carragher or Gerrard? {Ed001's Note - what has Kanicklic done to be classed as a mistake to be released? He has been extremely average every time I have seen him for them.}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 09:02:50
i hope sterlling starts playing again now that he has his new contract, because for the last 3 games he has been pants!


I was at the villa game, an although he didnt play to his best he was the only player on the pitch who tried to make things happen and never stopped shouting for the ball. He ran at defenders and did all he could.

Other would hide or do what downing and cole do - pass the ball back, making sure they dont shoulder the blame if they lose it.

K-Man


Well said K-Man


 

 

20 Dec 2012 08:54:11
Liverpool Daily Post confirming that Sterling has agreed a 5 year deal with the club and will sign within 48 hours.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 08:50:50
So was reading down the page and one of the eds said we paid 16.7 million for Allen. Thats a sackable signing. He is the worst signing of the summer how has he made us better if anything we are worse when he plays. Borini even before he broke he's toe was crap. So far all BR's signings are rubbish and now to top it off we are getting Sturridge who i have to say is the worst out of all the players we have been linked with. I would rather have Heskey back. What has BR done here other than make us easy to beat at home or away and got us to 12th in the table. I have no faith in tika taka . All i see its back passes all the time to pepe. Do you guys really think BR will be here for much longer if we keep in 12th or 11th in the table. FSG are clueless but even they know Allen was not worth 5 million let alone 16.7 million. Borini is no better than Morgan. In BR we have a manager who talks a good game but in reality has done little to make us better. Has Sahin, Allen, Borini made us better that has to be a big fat no. Without Suarez BR would have already been sacked we would be bottom. He should have spent the 16-17 million we wasted on Allen on a top forward who scores goals but we got a player who would not look out of place in the championship.


Allen - crap, Borini - crap, Sturridge - crap.
Behave, if someone like BR thinks they are good enough, with his experience and knowledge of the professional game, then you have to believe he will get the best out of them, although it may take time.

Good to know we have supporters who know more about football than the people in the game and could do a far better job obviously.

Morgan unfortunately is another Mellor, will never make the PL grade.


Very well said

Captain Sterlo


Dzeko in his first season at City was blasted as being a complete waste of money. Has since proved his quality.
Sometimes players for whatever reason need a bit more time to find their true form.
kidmillions


One ques for BR critics...Then how are we able to take so many total shots and shots on goal when all we do with BR style is back pass and side pass?? Are opposition defenders making those shots for us!!

Take your heads out of your a***es!

Indian with Red Heart


20 Dec 2012 10:47:30
Ok origional poster, fountain of all knowledge....tell us, exactly, what you would have done so far if you had taken over when Rodgers did.

Looking forward to your reply.

Kev79


Morgan hasn't even got a decent chance yet. I can see a good future for him. Give him a couple of chances and i can see him scoring.

FowlerGod.


Morgan hasn't even got a decent chance yet. I can see a good future for him. Give him a couple of chances and i can see him scoring.

FowlerGod.


Yeah the welsh player of the year ahead of bale is crap, the youngest italian international is crap and sturridge is crap even though he has a better goals to game ratio than valencia and walcott

There was a time when all we had was ngog

If we wasnt robbed against everton none of you'd be b*tchin right now but 7 points of top 4 with a team full of kids, a young manager, only 1 fit striker and still over half a season to go is not a disaster

The only thing which is crap is your support

Shak Attack


KD sighnings were the worst to play for liverpool ,£100 million on rubbish over priced players


Worst to play for Liverpool - not taking any price into account because of the way the market is, but KD's signings are worse than:
Dundee
Meijer
Voronin
Heskey
Pellegrino
Paletta
Degen

my god the list is endless.


Does anyone remember drogbas first season at chelsea wasnt too great players do need time to settle in to bigger clubs.Tommy Irish Red


 

 

20 Dec 2012 08:40:54
Morning eds.
I don't follow a lot of italian football but last season I saw many similarities between inter and us as both of us were sat around 8th in the table, with an ageing star (Gerrard/sneijder), and are of course both clubs associated with CL but neither in it. However this season inter are smashing it and look like a new side.
My question to the eds and posters is how have they seemingly turned it around this season? Just curious.
Thanks
Puzzled Red {Ed002's Note - I really don't have the time to address such questions about Italian teams. Sorry.}


Ah jases ed002 find some time we need your wisdom lol


 

 

20 Dec 2012 08:36:30
Cozinoz, like a lot of posters you cherry pick what you don't like from a post then attack it, feel free to check again my previous posts on point... (1) The manager....I have never criticised BR, the only thing I have said was he wasn't who I would have gone for because of his inexperience and not having a big enough name in world football to attract top players, but I will back him because he is the manager now and if Liverpool offer you the job you take it...oh and for the record in the summer I posted that if FSG are looking for a young manager because at the time Rodgers and Martinez were the names that were being linked the most, I suggested on this site that if that's the road they want to go down I would rather we went for Laudrup ( feel free to check this post, if I had the exact date of the post I would give you it ) because of his experience in La Liga and his name being known around the world, so theres a criticism with an alternitive. (2) The owners...I have said many times I want FSG gone because of the the way they treated Kenny ( top 4 or your out etc etc ) the way they backed down in the Suarez affair, either back the lad all the way or condem him from the start and except the punishment ( I wanted the former ) not dither and do both, the false promises they make, we will be in for any player in the world if we feel he is right for the club, we aim to be the top club in England then Europe, WERE NOT EVEN THE TOP CLUB ON MERSEYSIDE. I want them to sell to the fans, there was talk when Hicks and Gillett were there of a £5000 per fan share issue, I want them to go down that path, I would rather be in the position we are now knowing are owners US want what's best for the club and not profit. I would put £5k up for that and wouldn't care if I didn't see a return on my investment, criticism with an alternitive. All of the above is checkable ( feel free ), I am a paying customer so will have my say end of, and I don't want to hear I live in the back of beyond so can't go boo hoo....I'm sure theres a local team you could pay your money to support and who would be grateful of it aswell. As Rafa said FACT.......

Waro

p.s. Feel free to ignore the parts you can't argue with and pick holes in the parts you can.


20 Dec 2012 09:49:02
How many posters have you argued with now?
Dude,you need to chill out,it's not healthy!
WelshBoyDave


Waro by name waro by nature
he cant help it


Welshboydave, if I post something negative about you in future I don't want to see a reply from you! Were you come from you might not fight your corner, but in Liverpool WE DO. I didn't post anything about cozinoz it was the other way around.

Waro


Hear hear welshBoyDave all waro and ozone do is slate, slag and ridicule our current manager and owners. You wanted Laudrup before BR? why explain to me why Laudrup is better than BR. His record in Spain was terrible and he has taken over a team that, wait for it was managed by our current manager. Do you not think Laudrup is doing ok because BR left him such and easy Job to walk into. BR had done all the hard work way the swans and cause Laudrup has walked in and done ok you think he would be a better appointment. Your argument that you didnt want BR but would have been happy with a manager with just has much or maybe even less expereince than BR is rather ridicules.

I read Cozinoz stuff and sorry to say mate its a far better read than your usual BS, Your thoughts on FSG are flawed to the highest levels, Sell to the fans come on here mate are you for real? Explain what is so wrong with a set of owners that bailed our beloved club out the myer after years or serious miss managment, have been bailing the club out since they bought the club, we dont make enough money to cover cost, were do you think all the rest of that money is coming from, thats right or crap owners are keeping debt down by written of debts such as the 50 million acrued bye the former owners for plans of a stadium that never happened under them.

And that brings me onto my next point, they are activel in trying to find a solution to or stadium woes. Theres alot of work getting done behind the scenes in correcting all these wrongs. so what is so bloody wrong with these owners. Please explain who you think is out there that A. would want the club B. would do a better job.

And your point on KD, what did the King do so right that you feel he deserved to stay. You forgeting the cash he blew on mid table players? Im the biggest KK fan out there, hes graced the two clubs I hold dearly in my life, but we needed to find a young gun out there with an Idea, something to plan for, someone that trust the youth setup at the club and that isnt scared to use them, and a manager that isnt scared to mix it up by changing formations when req. I think we have that manager in BR and I think the owners are doing a grand job. Yes mistake have happened but thats all art and parrcell with trying to take the club back to where we belong. In BR I trust and If we had more positive fans and got off our arses at home games and get the anfield roar back, the lads on the park might play with more freedom and confidence, knowing the fans are behind them.

Ed 002 I apoliges I argued with you the other day, and now Im understanding what you mean about so many of our fans, there pathetic and moan, and whing about sweet FA. After the game on sat it was unbearible on hear, so,so, so, many fans want instant success. That just isnt going happen get over it.

Scottybhoy1888 YNWA {Ed002's Note - No problem Scottybhoy)


The way they treated KD. really? please, open your eyes Waro. KD's last 19 league games (half a season) read L11, D3, W5.
at any club in Europe he'd have struggled to keep his job with any owners especially after the way he went and spent/wasted over £100m previously.
we was basically awful in the league for 6 months and scraped through a Carling cup victory(i was there just for the record).
He even managed to drop an in form Andy Carroll which basically lost us the F.A cup final.

p.s, feel free to pick holes in the parts you can? ;)

p.p.s, my 1st ever football kit was an lfc crown paints number when dalglish was in charge so i remember him for the legend he is and am old enough to have seen him play. but only rose tinted glasses of a fan could find reasoning for him to have stayed in charge.

s.p


And our new manager managed to loan out the afore mentioned AC, without having any replacement


You need to use paragraphs Waro. It's really monotonous reading your posts.

Gazman


So hang on u want us to hire Laursen whos achieved nothing managerial wise because he has some experience in La Liga? I wouldnt of minded Laursen but Rodgers is much more tactically astute

Look at the work hes done at swansea, Laursen has gone in a rid the back of that Michu is sum1 who was scouted when BR was still in Charge

You dont like the fact kenny was sacked yet conplain that we wasnt "the best in europe" and that they lied when FAG said "we can compete with best in europ" okay 1st of all the 1st line in a contradiction as it was Kennys job to make "the best in europe" and he failed and FSG made 100 million pounds available for transfers so they did compete with the best but kenny spent it all on downing henderson and carroll

And u want to complain about kennys sacking? LOL couldnt make this up

Support Liverpool FC mate dont be a Dalglish fanatic, love the guy but FSG did what was right

Shak Attack


Excellent reply scottybhoy1888. Certain people just don't get it. You'd think they'd get the hint and clam up. But the urge to persist with verbal diarrhea is overwhelming in their case. I suspect most of us (as I do) now look at the signature before we read the post - better management of my time. ra1969


20 Dec 2012 12:55:37
Dude,just get a grip.
Don't be suprised when people don't agree with your negative views,half of it is unfounded anyway!
WelshBoyDave


Ra1969, as I a said to MIKEY yesterday your conradicting yourself, I look forward to not seeing any replys from you to any of my posts in future. RESULT. Just need to get that from Shak welsh huddz and biscan now and I've got the set. Your all like a Panini sticker album of de*kheads.

Waro


20 Dec 2012 14:53:04
Thanks Ra1969 Im just sick of all these so called fans, constantly slatting the current owners and manager. Im happy as larry with the progress being made, and im genuinley looking forward to the future. I watch alot of the reserves play and the U18's and I honestly think we have the best set up in the country. We are going forward and Imagine doing that while spending within our means.

For my club to be run correctly and for us to be brining some of the best youth this country seen in a long time through and into first team players, I dont think you can get any better in football terms.

So to all the real fans out there merry xmas, and lets hope we get a good few results over the festive period. Macca and eds thanks again, you deserve a medal listening to some of these bitches on here. canny wait for the abuse to start pouring in. Waro and Ozone give it your best shoot, ive got plenty of amunition to correct the pishy Bs mesg you so love to bore us all with. xx

Scottybhoy1888 YNWA


Waro, I'm with you 100% buddy. The share issue I couldn't agree with more and I also would be happy to part with £5k to see the back of FSG and put the club in the hands of the fans. Some of the responses to your post I find breathtaking, WelshBoyDave, Shak attack etc., I think they like arguing for the sake of arguing. You constantly post unsubstantiated dribble. The club is in a mess, a lot worse than it would appear. There's rumours that some of the players dont know what they're supposed to be doing under Rodgers, Ian Ayres a waste of space and this transfer policy of FSG's is a stranglehold for any manager. FSG are solely about making money, every business aspect of the clubs operation has been manipulated to be as risk averse as possible. The operational balance isn't right to attract success.

As with Waro, I will support Rodgers as our manager, although as time goes on I am becoming increasingly worried about his capabilities and the squad he is putting together. Let's face it this is a man who's footballing pedigree stems from Witney Town and who's managerial CV reads Watford and Reading failure with credit from the work done by Martinez at Swansea.

Ozone


Scottyboy, you make some valid points in your fourth paragraph about Rodgers, I'll give you that. But that doesn't make the complete manager. His lack of experience at top level, his inability to attract top players and FSG's ridiculous policy on transfers isn't a good blend going forward. It doesn't suggest a successful future it just ensures profit for FSG, very much like Arsenal and Villa. Your perception of the owners is wide of the mark Scottyboy.

Ozone


Scottyboy, you make some valid points in your fourth paragraph about Rodgers, I'll give you that. But that doesn't make the complete manager. His lack of experience at top level, his inability to attract top players and FSG's ridiculous policy on transfers isn't a good blend going forward. It doesn't suggest a successful future it just ensures profit for FSG, very much like Arsenal and Villa. Your perception of the owners is wide of the mark Scottyboy.

Ozone


1892 we were formed Scottybhoy, you do know that don't you..Oh no wait your signing off with the Celtic 1888 time of forming...hannnngggggg on, who do you support again?? " for MY CLUB to to be run correctly and for US to be bringing some of the best youth this this country has seen in a long time through and into first team players, I don't think you can get better in football terms". Yet you sign off with Scottybhoy 1888, the actions of a true red NOT. haha, you clowns get funnier by the second. Weres your ammunition for that one soft lad, quality.

Waro


Waro - You're in no position to dictate anything to anyone on this forum. It's open to everyone provided they follow forum rules and common sense of decorum. You want to post and reply to anyone you want, but want to dictate who replies to you? Get a life and stop all putrid gas. Insignificant flea. ra1969


21 Dec 2012 19:06:05
Jesus Christ waro your a narrow minded person, first you start a massive argument, then slag off positive, right minded people, horribly skit someone for being welsh because they owned you and then go and hide behind your typical toyboy Ozone. Your that certain kind of scouser that I despise, mind you your probably from the woolback land of southport anyway!


 

 

20 Dec 2012 08:10:26
If it is true, as is being reported that Raheem has agreed to a new deal then now let's get to work on Martin Kelly,s contract. We need him tying down to a new contract. These are the players of not just today but tomorrow as well. We cannot have too many of these good , young players. Don,t let them go anywhere. Martin has proven that he is good enough so let's get it done ASAP.
Robbie


 

 

20 Dec 2012 08:10:15
People are banging on about whether Ince is good enough, and why are we buying him back for more than we sold him for.
He has been off our wage bill for a year.
if he had stayed, he may have played the odd game; and that would of cost us a years salary.
He has had a year away gaining valuable experience, let the lad play (if he comes) and get behind him.

ral1971


Well that's smart. He has been off our wage book for a year. When he was with us a year on the books cost us say 50k for the year cause he ain't no chop.

Now we let him go and after 1 year we pay 6 mill for him.

That's real good business


And if he turns out to be excellent and worth £20m then we would look even more stupid not buying him back.

I want every liverpool player to be a success, get behind the lad.

Leeds red


Who gives a **** if he does the business? It's not your money


Well KD shouldve given him a better contract instead of letting a top talent go for half the price of downings weekly wage

Props to BR for seeing the talent and fixing the mistake


But it is our money! going through the turnstile's buying replica shirt's from the shop under the Kop So when we buy a player the money the fan's pay to get in or memobilla get's used among'st other thing's to sign player's!


There is a third view, he wanted wages that were comparable to first team players (which i believe one of the Editors said)
Yet he wasnt a first team player.....soo we werent held to ransome and he was sold. Now turns out the kids somewhat talented, we have a sell on clause so we can "effectively" buy him cheaper than say Arsenal. Now lets assume for a second that he turns out to be something of a success and a big offer comes in for him, say £20m then, that is good business. Lots of ifs and buts but there is a potential for it to be good business, and we didnt let a child take the pi$$ on the wages front. I see nothing wrong with that.
Andy C


 

 

20 Dec 2012 08:02:23
No matter who we need, want or will sign. Personally I'm delighted with the commitment from our current players, to new long term contracts.

Our young talent in Suso, Shelvey, Ibe and Sterling (all but) and top experienced players Agger, Skrtel and Suarez have all signed.

That speaks volumes to me. Firstly it shows that youth believe in the long term future of the club and that in BR, they have a manager who rewards talent and commitment with game time.

With Suarez, Agger and Skrtel in my opinion we've got three top (almost world class) players entering their peak years. They like say RVP, Nasri, Fabregas (see the theme developing) could have easily forced the clubs hand and left. But they committed to seeing our club become a force once again.

I know we've got an awful long way to go, with a manager and a squad who still have a lot to learn. But for me there is some light at the end of the tunnell. Hopefully with the quality of youth we have, we'll reap massive rewards on the pitch and off with transfer fee's saved on countless squad players and wages.

Papa G


 

 

20 Dec 2012 07:58:11
I think our biggest problem is the lack of mobility in the side... Signing Ince, Sturridge and Gameiro will help us a lot in this respect. Shelvey, Lucas, Agger, Suso, Gerrard, Cole are not mobile at all.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 07:40:13
Hi ed's I'm just wondering with all the talk that sturridge is on his way in jan (I'm not a fan of his anyway) and most people are saying its a done deal already but does he actually want to come here? Even if the clubs agree a fee there's nothing to say he want to leave to come here? And why are we chasing a striker who is behind a misfiring Torres in the pecking order? I still think Shane long would be a better player and probably better value. {Ed002's Note - It is certainly something that has been progressing so if he did not want to make the move I would doubt it would have gone this far.}


Torres has 12 goals in 27 games, wouldnt call that misfiring, he has been on a very good run of form so far, apart from suarez, and maybe johnson who else would get into the chelsea team?
lfclegends999


Lucas as a holder and agger
derryred


 

 

20 Dec 2012 07:15:50
Ed Great site and excellent work....
I am not sure about the deals with sturridge, ince or walcott...seems done, or yet to be..
BUt If any club, Man U or inter doest get Leondawaski under 20 mill...then we should hang ourself...He is in the last year of contract..
and we should have gone to do everything to get him..the only things we can offer is a good clean wage...
he is quality...absolute quality..and one of europes best...he will hit 20-25 goals season in and out... {Ed002's Note - None of these deals are "done".}


 

 

20 Dec 2012 05:24:14
I'm really hoping that Brendan will give both Suso and Sahin a start v Fulham... Hoping Sterling will sign on Thursday or Friday and starts Saturday and gives a good performance fresh off the new contract and then has some rest.. We definitely are playing well but I can see why fans are upset about results, How anyone can say that we aren't improving is blind in my eyes, we dominate possession basically every game,if we start burying half of our chances and tightening up vs. the counter attack we will win... I want to see Yesil in the F.A Cup because I think he has a HUGE future...If we sign Sturridge and Ince I'll be happy because they both have talent and that can't be disputed. I've been disappointed with Pepe lately and he's been letting in some soft goals for awhile now...Would like to see a young,class, German keeper bought, Ter Stegen is amazing, and was incredible vs Bayern last week. Anyways, Merry Christmas from your favorite american poster on the site...

phillyred


Sign a playmaker and lewandowski and we're sorted!


 

 

20 Dec 2012 05:20:40
well sterling signs a new contract thats my Xmas sorted roll on the new year. ray 3037


 

 

20 Dec 2012 05:00:15
Everton and Tesco (the biggest British company) sounded out Knowsley council over planning permission for their failed Kirkby stadium/superstore development and where given assurances by councilors that they would be granted planning permission to build on the land they (tesco) owned.

What all 3 forgot is that despite support from the council all planning permission applications have to be heard by an indepentant panel. Even if this panel gives its approval local residents and business owners are allowed to appeal the decision 1st at local authority level, then national level and finally at European level. Ultimately resulting in permission being rejected.

Liverpool council also learned this lesson when issuing cumpulasory purchase orders (CPO's) on homes along Edge Lane (The Liverpool Gateway). Where 1 pernsioner held up the development for 4 years by refusing to sell her home despite the fact it was for a development of the main access route into the city.

Now FSG plan to redevelop anfield. They are yet to draw up the plans let alone apply for permission to do so or indeed start the process of Liverpool Council applying to the goverment to issue CPO's on surrounding homes.

In truth FSG have simply decided that redeveloping anfield is the route they want to take. Something they first announced 2 years ago.

In short, in the 2 years FSG have had control of the club all they have done in terms of sorting out the stadium solution is ask/pursued the local councilors to agree not to oppose the idea of a redevelopment.

Not really the actions of someone who wants a quick resolution. More like delaying tactics.

Liverpool Cabbie.


Yes, delaying tactics in preparation for a ground-share.

DaveyBootle


So true.... waffles no action


 

 

20 Dec 2012 03:32:53
What about we stop buying english players,that sounds fair cozinoz..they all have one good season and all of a sudden.they are worth 15-20m.we already have enough players with potential who can be great,we need players who can get double figures apart from suarez..sturridge is good but never worth 12m,we could get better players for that money,and don't ask me who. other clubs do it why should we be different?that's why we have scouts like everyone else
26goals in 96 appearances can't be worth 12m to me.

PACMAN


You're probably right he's not worth that and there are lot of things that will infuriate may about Sturridge, if he signs.

However if he signs and starts I do feel he'll guarantee goals. Now I know your stat states otherwise, but those are a big chunk of substitute appearances. When he plays full games I think he has a 1 in 2 ratio.

He may not be my choice or a lot of others, but if he scores then I honestly couldn't care less.

Papa G


Hows many of those apps were as a sub? He isn't my first choice signing and doubt he is Brendan's first choice, (I heard a rumour BR signed Messi on FM) but he is the best in BR's eyes who we can afford and also the lad wants to join so instead of wasting our time with your moaning, why can't you and the other negative posters on this site actually support the team.

I get it, we all get raged at a mis-placed pass or what have you but to judge a lad who hasn't even officially signed for the club is pathetic!


 

 

20 Dec 2012 01:22:49
Is there a clause in Ince's contract? I've heard we get £5 mil off and another rumour that its 35% but this seemed unlikely because he left on a free


If Ince re-sign's for us it will be symbolic for everything wrong with our club. We have become a joke and run by a bunch of fools.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 01:16:37
Am I the biggest sturridge fan...of course not. But after seeing 35m on Carroll, 20m on Downing, and 16m on Henderson...I have to say that a guy with his ability and potential for 12m doesnt seem all that bad He is younger than all of the players listed above. That being said all four of these prices are way inflated due to all being british. I think him and Ince will add to the squad regardless, but we still need to get true striker. Huntelaar would have been nice, but surely we can find a good goalscorer out there for the 10-15m mark...and hey we might have to go outside of England to do so. Someone who can interchange with Suarez in the center striker role. I am very optimistic after seeing nearly half the season. We are clearly much improved from the beginning and BR doesn't seem to be in the mindset of spend blindly. The largest sum on anyone player was 15m which doesnt even scratch the surface of what top players go for. Eds where is Sahin? The guy is so technically good but all of sudden cant get a game?


Agree with most of the point your making but he's 1 year older than Carrol and 2 years older than Henderson.

I personally think Henderson will still come good. Reminds me of the critism Lucas got at a similar age.

Liverpool Cabbie


Henderson is younger than Sturridge


Sahin broke his nose against Udinese. He has had an operation and is likely to be included in the squad for the Fulham game.

Happy Christmas

Phooey...


 

 

20 Dec 2012 01:03:18
why if we are short on depth in the side will we recriut so few and move on so many if the players leaving is correct. I cant believe we have not learnt from the carol issue


Because ideally those moving on will be players not good enough for the 1st team. Players like Pacheco who will never get in the team.

I'd hope players like Joe Cole are only moved on if players of equal or better ability can be found on much lower wages and hopefully on the younger side of 25.

Liverpool Cabbie.


Champions league hopefuls have world class players. World class players do cost a bit in wages but get results. We are skimp.


 

 

20 Dec 2012 00:38:55
Brenden rogers rings up john henry and says "John i need a striker, found a guy who cant get in the chelsea side after they paid roughly 5 mil for him from man city. Hes played 63 games for them and scored 13 goals, any chance of payin 12 million for him?, hes only 23 called daniel sturridge.

While were at it remember the club selling tom ince to blackpool 18 months ago, any chance of buying him back for 4 million more than we sold him for?

I hope the chairman puts the phone down, or indeed prey the convesartion has never taken place.

Topman Dave


36 goals in 60 starts from the right (not including friendlies)

Which is a better rtio than valencia and walcott

Source: soccerbase

Cheers

Shak Attack


20 Dec 2012 06:10:02
Some comments here are just so annoying. Sturudge had rare chances 'cos of Drogba, Anelka and Torres, not that he's bad. Scored reasonably goals at Bolton for half a season and last season alone he scored about 13 in the prem from d right. How many did Suarez scored last season? Give BR and the bloke a chance at least. Remember how Walcott was criticized last term?
RedBeer.


 

 

 
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