Liverpool Banter Archive December 20 2010

 

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20 Dec 2010 23:43:19
Dan Petrescu ed? Are you serious? Thats even worse than rating Sean "I havent won anything" O'Drisscol.

We are the biggest, most supported club in the world and us fans deserve a big name manager to take over. Seriously i respect what you editors are doing with the site and i read everyday but shankly would be turning in his grave if one of them two were are future manager

TR24
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If your looking a "big name manager" TR24 how about Jan Venegoor of Hesselink i heard he's taking his coaching badges.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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20 Dec 2010 23:35:05
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Just want to say all the best to avi cohen, who was injured after colliding with a car whilst on his motorbike earlier today. hope you have a speedy recovery.

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20 Dec 2010 23:34:11
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Dear santa or mr .henry just some new good players not people sitting on the bench of worse teams than us and santa not cole in our sack this year thanks all our love the fans l.f.c

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20 Dec 2010 23:09:59
Dan Petrescu ed? Are you serious? Thats even worse than rating Sean "I havent won anything" O'Drisscol.

We are the biggest, most supported club in the world and us fans deserve a big name manager to take over. Seriously i respect what you editors are doing with the site and i read everyday but shankly would be turning in his grave if one of them two were are future manager

TR24 {ed's note - Shanks would turn in his grave reading your arrogant post about 'we deserve big name managers'. Big names don't necessarily bring success, Shanks, Paisley, Fagan, were they big name managers? Big names haven't done a lot for England have they? Wasn't Scolari a big name? I don't remember him translating well to English football. I will stick to wanting the best man for the job, I just hope NESV have the sense to do the same rather than looking for the biggest name.}

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20 Dec 2010 23:07:16
Linda Pizzuti twitter refers to a new build by NESV for Boston Red Sox spring training in Florida at a cost of $30 million . NESV are really spending this year .

The article states :

In less than two years, the Boston Red Sox will be playing in their new spring training stadium. It's a move that is expected to pump tens of millions of dollars into the local economy and we got a first look at financial impact of the new ballpark.

Day-by-day, the 106-acre lot off Daniels Parkway is transforming into an 11,000 seat state-of-the-art ball park.

New numbers released Monday show that during construction, more than 500 jobs will be created with a gross income of $30-million paid for by tourist bed tax.

And once the ballpark is complete, tourists will spend $23-million in Lee County, staying there an average of eight days and watching three games.

And beyond the games, there are also hotels and restaurants. Tourists are expected to spend an average $167 per day during their stay Lee County , Florida .

There is also a video with the article , apparently the math predicts tourism will create around $23 million worth of revenue per annum , therefore proving the build to be a profitable venture .

LFC must give NESV the time they require to evaluate potential off field development on merseyside , there track record is incredible .

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20 Dec 2010 23:05:57
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Benitez came and gave us some great moments. But that's now in the past.

Look forward not back.

Spriggo

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20 Dec 2010 22:43:34
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Apparently torres is going to wear a blonde wig in the next game in the hope it inspires his old form.not been the same since new hair do.

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20 Dec 2010 22:40:44
Guys, the rafa/ woy argument has come to a peaceful solution, to suit both sets of followers, look at the photo on liverpool sightings!
happy christmas to all, and the ed's

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20 Dec 2010 22:34:58
Official: Rafa Benitez sacked by Inter Milan tonight via E-Mail. Rafa is already back on Merseyside with his wife and family. Welcome Home!

jounalist on twitter

harry5:)

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20 Dec 2010 22:22:46
I knew you were gunna say that. . .

The aaaaiiii (all seeing)


Well Stu, how's things in Moyesville these days?

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20 Dec 2010 22:20:01
20 Dec 2010 22:00:02
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Alright guys:). I've heard from people "in the know" that there has been several crisis meetings within the last month or so concerning roy's position at the club.

But the sad part is nesv seem to think apparently that the fans are to fickle to understand the vision of
Roy and that's why John Henry and company seem to be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Apparently Roy has great influence with John Henry who seems to see Roy as a venerable gentleman who would bring results with the business side being the most important aspect.

This sadly does not mean that Roy has to win titles. My source claims that nesv are concentrating on not only making money through the usual revenues, but plan to invest through live on line streams and the worst part is they are planning to charge quite a bit.

Roys long term future at the club is not really a concern for nesv, because by all accounts one of the greatest hoodwinked scams has been accomplished here that would make George gillet and Tom hicks proud.

The rumours are that Liverpool is still saddled with debt, because nesv did the same as hicks and gillet, but broughton took them at their word that they would pay off the debt within a certain time.

And besides the real gem being in their exit strategy. .they are giving Roy permission to try and make star players request a transfer etc and then make a bit to reduce debts slightly. . But the gem is that even now they are talking to potential buyers "purchasing"the club within a year

{Editor's Note: Man I love this stuff.}
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Ed did Tom Hicks post this? Is this the "Epic Swindle" he was talking about? lol

Blair Mayne YNWA

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20 Dec 2010 22:19:53
{ed's note - what is with every Rafa lover claiming that you have to want Roy if you don't want Rafa? They are two separate issues, so stop using Roy to make Rafa look better, neither are up to the task.}


I don't think anyone needs to hold Roy up to make Rafa look better, in fact I think you can hold up almost every manager since Paisley to do that. What really gets my arse is the so-called fans on here who obviously have not put a shift in since Dalglish, spouting the skum media narrative without seeing what the big picture was, and they must all bear part of the responsibility for where we are with Roy now. And what happens when Henry bows to pressure from fans, and pulls the trigger on Roy, we get a new guy in, and he fails. should we sack him too? Are we Spurs, slagging off our old managers like a bunch of old women? For all Rafa's faults, and of course he had some, we all do, you cannot argue with where he took us. Some of the fans on here (quite a few it seems) do not remember what it was like when we were the best team in Europe year in year out. They have no idea what it is like to win metronomically week in week out almost to the point of boredom! They must measure success in FA cup, league cup and Europa league. The older hands remember when we were just h*cking awesome, and they were reminded year in year out how far we had fallen from that. And when Benitez pulls the club out of the mediocrity, within touching distance of the glory of the past, we appreciate what that is, they do not.
So next time someone refers to Benitez as a waiter they should consider this: We will never be forgiven for being great, not by the skum, not by the sky media, we will never be forgiven for being the team the skum and everybody else wanted to be, so if they want to buy into that, then go ahead, do the skum media's work for them, but do not call yourself a fan. That involves a state of mind, not just a love of football.

ferd

I'll never walk alone.

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20 Dec 2010 22:11:06
I don't want him back Ed and have said so on many occasions mate. But when i read some posts about Rafa and people slating him i just think personally it's a bit harsh. So called LFC fans on here are referring to him as the "Fat Spanish Waiter" which i have my suspicions they are even LFC fans.

Blair Mayne YNWA
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It's a Spud, Manc or a bitter Blue mate. I honestly never heard one Liverpool fan refer to Rafa as that, even the ones that didn't like him when he was manager.

They are sad and have nothing better to do.

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20 Dec 2010 22:03:17
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20 Dec 2010 21:54:35
The rumours are that Liverpool is still saddled with debt, because nesv did the same as hicks and gillet, but broughton took them at their word that they would pay off the debt within a certain time.
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I thought one of the conditions of sale was that the debt was cleared and surely if the debt wasn't paid by RBS' deadline the club would have gone into administration?

Plus, with Purslow and Ayre being Liverpool fans I'm sure they wouldn't have taken the risk, or infact make the same mistake that Rick Pary and David Moores made.

i agree it has been paid off, , that £300 million to buy the club was the debt paid off, , hicks and gillette got nothing it all went to rbs to pay the debt

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20 Dec 2010 22:00:02
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Alright guys:). I've heard from people "in the know" that there has been several crisis meetings within the last month or so concerning roy's position at the club.

But the sad part is nesv seem to think apparently that the fans are to fickle to understand the vision of
Roy and that's why John Henry and company seem to be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Apparently Roy has great influence with John Henry who seems to see Roy as a venerable gentleman who would bring results with the business side being the most important aspect.

This sadly does not mean that Roy has to win titles. My source claims that nesv are concentrating on not only making money through the usual revenues, but plan to invest through live on line streams and the worst part is they are planning to charge quite a bit.

Roys long term future at the club is not really a concern for nesv, because by all accounts one of the greatest hoodwinked scams has been accomplished here that would make George gillet and Tom hicks proud.

The rumours are that Liverpool is still saddled with debt, because nesv did the same as hicks and gillet, but broughton took them at their word that they would pay off the debt within a certain time.

And besides the real gem being in their exit strategy. .they are giving Roy permission to try and make star players request a transfer etc and then make a bit to reduce debts slightly. . But the gem is that even now they are talking to potential buyers "purchasing"the club within a year

{Editor's Note: Man I love this stuff.}

You naughty boy Mr editor, i detect a hint of sarcasm. . . {ed's note - Tolkien would be proud of that to be fair. . }

mmm, i heard a similar yarn on Jackanory when i was younger, ed!

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20 Dec 2010 21:58:54
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All these rumours flying around, , mostly bull some possible but probably won't happen and 2-3 will probably happen, , wont be long now and all the bull will be revealed and all the players looked at and approached but failed to get will be revealed, , and then we will find out whos gunna join us and try help us fight for top 4, , 1st of the buys i think will happen in the first week of january and i think that will be honda, , , after that i have no clue, , , cant wait to find out tho, , , then february will come and we will all be bickering bout summer transfers ha ha

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20 Dec 2010 21:57:38
Benitez never was and never will be ONE OF US - he's a moaning mercenary who always blames someone else for his failings.

He took our club for 6 million pounds when he left ( according to rumours ), YES he sure loves the club, could it be because he lives in the biggest house on the Wirral and that his family love the area.
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Are you serious or a stupid Manc? It's not just because he lives in the area you fool. It's because he has genuine love for the club. He took us to 2 CL finals and the FA cup and CL football every year except 1.

When can you see us getting back to CL football again never mind finals?

Is your name Big Sam, Fergie or Tom and George by any chance?

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Editor's Note: We should be looking elsewhere Blair - surely you have Rafa out of your system by now?}
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I don't want him back Ed and have said so on many occasions mate. But when i read some posts about Rafa and people slating him i just think personally it's a bit harsh. So called LFC fans on here are referring to him as the "Fat Spanish Waiter" which i have my suspicions they are even LFC fans.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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20 Dec 2010 21:48:14
20 Dec 2010 20:51:06
Benitez never was and never will be ONE OF US - he's a moaning mercenary who always blames someone else for his failings.

He took our club for 6 million pounds when he left ( according to rumours ), YES he sure loves the club, could it be because he lives in the biggest house on the Wirral and that his family love the area.
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Are you serious or a stupid Manc? It's not just because he lives in the area you fool. It's because he has genuine love for the club. He took us to 2 CL finals and the FA cup and CL football every year except 1.

When can you see us getting back to CL football again never mind finals?

Is your name Big Sam, Fergie or Tom and George by any chance?

Blair Mayne YNWA

{Editor's Note: We should be looking elsewhere Blair - surely you have Rafa out of your system by now?}

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20 Dec 2010 21:45:04
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Gotta be honest ed, im a huge liverpool fan, but not from liverpool. i seem to have the same veiw as you on benitez, and although he brought some of the best nights in my life, and some priceless moments, like bringing back fowler etc, i was glad when he left, as towards the end he seemed to lose the plot and made some very strange and poor decisions. my point being is i know he was, and still is held in high regard in and around anfield for things he did beyond football. i don't doubt he loved the club but do you think peoples judgement is being clouded because of this, because i see no good if he were to come back. he would want full control of transfers and not work with comolli, and imo is not good in the transfer market, and would want as he did before expect huge transfer budgets be made availiable each summer. whats your thoughts?

{Editor's Note: I agree with everything you have said. He won't be coming back. Time to look forward.}

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20 Dec 2010 21:42:25
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Ed what do you think of tryng to get pienaar and baines from everton. Both lfc fans and are both top players. Baines might not be avilable but Pienaar is. What do you think of Pienaar? Contract up end of season as well. {ed's note - I would happily take both, they are Everton's best players, both would improve our first team as well. Pienaar has always been a quality player, I wanted us to sign him a long time ago, never understood how he has ended up at Everton.}

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20 Dec 2010 21:36:37
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Liverpool are looking to bring in 5 players in the January transfer window, they are:
- Santi Cazorla (LW) - 12 MIL (Underrated and wants to move to england)
- Capdevilla (LB) - Free (Contract is over, better than Konchesky)
- Keizuke Honda (CAM) - 10 MIL (Pretty much a done deal)
- Eden Hazard (RW) - 13 MIL (Wants a starting position, which Arsenal or Real won't give him)
- Antonio Cassano (ST) - Free (Unhappy at Sampdoria)

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Johnson. . . Carragher. . . . .Agger. . . . . Capdevilla
Hazard. . . . . . . . . .Meireles. . . . . . . . . . .Cazorla
. . . . . . . .Gerrard. . . . . . . . Honda. . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Torres. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Bench:
Jones
Skrtel
Aurelio
Lucas
Kuyt
Babel
Cassano


likelyhood of this ed? ha great site can't keep off it!
{Editor's note - Highly unlikely}

really? being quite optimistic i would say that we can pull those off i mean 2 of them contracts running out! carzola pretty good chance and honda almost done! maybe hazard harder but cmon!

{Editor's Note: Maybe Honda - almost certainly not Hazard - hopefully not Cassano.}

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20 Dec 2010 21:26:43
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I may be way off the mark, but i reckon that roy is being judged not only on results but also things that are happening behind the scenes. . are players happy, are they responding to training methods etc. point is j w henry knows very little about football, and if roy was to tell him carlton cole is the next big thing, henry could not argue that he isnt, hence comolli being brought in, he is the football man and imo will have the final say in who will be signed. from an outside veiw, i can kinda see why they havent sacked him yet, they are proberly looking at the fact he took a small club from london to a european final and knocked out some big clubs on the way, and took them fom the brink of relagation to a mid table team in two years.roy will be found out in time, but nesv seem to be a fair group and will give roy there backing to an extent. if roy was to hand in a wish list of 20 players for jan andthe summer and carlton cole was the best player on it, then im sure nesv would see, he is not the man to take the club forward, and someone with greater ambition is needed. roy in time will hang himself, with poor tactics, poor choice of formations, poor transfer targets and a shocking away record. comolli will be the man calling the shots this jan, and roy will be given time with the new additions to get things right, sink or swim roy! maybe with 3 attacking players signed in jan roy will have to change his negative tactics and be more positive.

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20 Dec 2010 21:18:57
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To the people on this page linking Mourinho and Liverpool don't waste your time wishing.I watched an interview a while back when he first went to Madrid were he said there was no chance of him EVER managing Liverpool and that people at Liverpool no why, he did not state what it was but that there is a very big reason why he would/ could not manage us.Shame because no matter what people think of him the man is a born winner.One other point ed, to the people who are starting to have ago at Torres, get of the lads back! His body language and playing skills were exactly the same whilst playing for Spain at the W.C. which indicates he is unhappy with himself and how he is playing and not (which some people are suggesting) him not wanting to play for us.All strikers go through lean spells ALL OF THEM, so get behind Nando and let him no he made the right decision to stay at the BEST CLUB IN WORLD FOOTBALL.

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20 Dec 2010 21:18:14
Looks like we need a Rafa section on the site. Can we agree to disagree on his legacy? Personally I rated him, but he has gone so let's move on.

But can we stop referring to him by the nickname the sum gave him please? That is disrespectful.

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20 Dec 2010 21:15:32
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Dear Santa,

I have been a good boy all year supporting the team I love through thin and thin. Please could you bring us Adam Johnson for Xmas (and a decent striker)?

I will leave you lots of mince pies and sherry if you do.

Love mark!

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20 Dec 2010 21:12:28
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ha hah, im still chuckling at ed's Honda jokes, never gets old for me that. NESV or Woy wanting to risk getting through to the summer without at least 2 quality additions knowing what we know at the moment. I can see a decent striker and a Honda arriving in the jan window. Frankly id lose all faith in a few peoples judgement as a Striker/ forward should have been brought in some time ago and that's obvious beyond belief. Personally I would have thought Radamael Falcao would fit in brilliantly and, as a forward myself, think he is an exceptional talent and he loves to score goals, great record that lad has got. I would be happy with that, Aurelio LB all day long, hopefully he can keep fit tho.

great work everyone by the way, Ed's and fans alike it's a v good site this. .

laylandiai

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20 Dec 2010 21:12:08
Its not for nothing that he is among the legends in the flag in every Liverpool home game. {ed's note - rubbish, he constantly went public and carried out arguments with everyone at the club in the public eye. There was no need to do it in the public eye, he did the same at Valencia with his carp about light shades. Valencia were in serious money problems but he went public to try and get more money to spend, rather than trying to do what is best for the club. He was one of the symptoms of the club's problems and he needed to be removed, as does Roy.}

So Ed! Who would you rather have Rafa or Roy?

The Irish Rover

{Editor's Note: I would opt for Roy until the end of the season and then a concerted effort to get the right man to take the club forward. And different Eds have different views who the right man may be; I am a fan of Claude Puel of coourse. But another thought came to me as I was driving across the beautiful snow covered English countryside this morning - Dan Petrescu. So I am throwing Dan in to the equation for some thought. Not that I know of an approach, but because I think he deserves a shot at a club like Liverpool. How about it Irish Rover?}

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20 Dec 2010 21:11:50
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Alright guys:). I've heard from people "in the know" that there has been several crisis meetings within the last month or so concerning roy's position at the club.

But the sad part is nesv seem to think apparently that the fans are to fickle to understand the vision of
Roy and that's why John Henry and company seem to be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Apparently Roy has great influence with John Henry who seems to see Roy as a venerable gentleman who would bring results with the business side being the most important aspect.

This sadly does not mean that Roy has to win titles. My source claims that nesv are concentrating on not only making money through the usual revenues, but plan to invest through live on line streams and the worst part is they are planning to charge quite a bit.

Roys long term future at the club is not really a concern for nesv, because by all accounts one of the greatest hoodwinked scams has been accomplished here that would make George gillet and Tom hicks proud.

The rumours are that Liverpool is still saddled with debt, because nesv did the same as hicks and gillet, but broughton took them at their word that they would pay off the debt within a certain time.

And besides the real gem being in their exit strategy. .they are giving Roy permission to try and make star players request a transfer etc and then make a bit to reduce debts slightly. . But the gem is that even now they are talking to potential buyers "purchasing"the club within a year

{Editor's Note: Man I love this stuff.}

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20 Dec 2010 21:11:35
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"At 5.30 today i seen a player getting out of a flash car at anfield to me it looked like honda {ed's note - the car or the player?}"

LOL! If it's the player I'll take Honda, if it's the car I'll take the Bentley.

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20 Dec 2010 21:06:48
I said at the time that getting rid of Rafa was a huge mistake. Sack him & get someone better in, fine! Sack him & replace him with Hodgson, no way. Don't get me wrong he had plenty of faults as we all know & he wasn't a friend of the media. The fact that he was criticised for his rotational policy yet Ferguson has done the same thing for longer & nothing in mentioned says it all. But for all transfer dealings, his net spend was very good & at the end of the day football is a business, so balancing the books is very important to whoever owns the club. I also maintain the money he spent (net) was well covered by the champions league runs over the years. Alas I beleive Rafa coming home is a non starter but I'd still rather have Rafa living & breathing football & vocal for every minute of every game than watching Hodgson rubbing his hands & face wondering what the f##k to do next. I really don't think anyone can argue with that.

The Irish Rover

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20 Dec 2010 21:00:39
2005 was special and to this day I get goosebumps thinking about it, but that's all the man accomplished in 5 years at the club.

Mate, take a close look, that's pretty much all that has been accomplished in the last 20 years.

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20 Dec 2010 20:58:05
Have u all gone mad on this site? the fat waiter has taken a treble wining side into a team placed 7th in the italian league . i would ask for my season ticket money back if he came back.


You have a season ticket? Burn it. We can be doing without the likes of you on the stands.

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20 Dec 2010 20:55:02
It seems clear that there are 2 diametrically opposed views on Rafa's time at the club. So can we have some FACTS?

FACT, before Rafa, despite breaking the British transfer record in 1995/ 6 WHICH WE HAVE AGREED was Collymore, and spending big under Souness, we were basically Sh1te. Yes we entertained a bit, got to the odd Cup Final here and there. We had Fowler who could play a bit, and we had Owen who wasn't bad either. We had Gerrard too who was a bit special. And we were content to be sh1te, putting up a bit of fight before Christmas, then lying down like croppy boys come march.

I do not care what the Rafa haters say, or how much they spout the media narrative, we came closest to greatness again under him. Ask Tomkins what his net spend was. TBH I give up on the lot of you, you seem to have no idea what it was like before he arrived.

FFS we even have had posters purporting to be Liverpool fans on here calling the man manure nicknames, actually spouting the manc sh1te for them. WTF have we become, when we were supposed to be the most discerning fans there were. I really really do despair.

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20 Dec 2010 20:51:06
Benitez never was and never will be ONE OF US - he's a moaning mercenary who always blames someone else for his failings.

He took our club for 6 million pounds when he left ( according to rumours ), YES he sure loves the club, could it be because he lives in the biggest house on the Wirral and that his family love the area.

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20 Dec 2010 20:38:36
Mate, you shouldn't be. We got 1 x FA Cup, a 2nd place when we were the best team in the League that year, consistent, 1 X Big Ears and continued qualification and progression in the CL. To the extent that we were the top rated European team and the one that Barca and everyone else wanted to avoid.
Fkn short memories some people
KB {ed's note - he also dragged the club through the dirt in public.}

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Ed that was not a valid arguement. . . .

He did not develop players except in the high value category. . . ex. Torres, Mascherano, Johnson, etc. . . . .

He could not get youngsters into the first team though he did leave us with Ngog, Spearing, Suso, Mavinga and others whom Hodgson doesn't want to make use of. .

But I don't agree with the "dirt in public part. .He is ambitious and what drives him is constant progress and when he isn't backed as he is told in private, he doesn't take it lying down. . .Even with Morattu now, he is not wrong.

Its not for nothing that he is among the legends in the flag in every Liverpool home game. {ed's note - rubbish, he constantly went public and carried out arguments with everyone at the club in the public eye. There was no need to do it in the public eye, he did the same at Valencia with his crap about light shades. Valencia were in serious money problems but he went public to try and get more money to spend, rather than trying to do what is best for the club. He was one of the symptoms of the club's problems and he needed to be removed, as does Roy.}

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20 Dec 2010 20:35:00
All this chit chat regarding Rafa. I think he had one bad season. He lost the plot. There's no doubt about that. But. the club and everyone else involved had lost the plot too. If Roy cocks it up between now and the new year I'd take Rafa for the rest of the season on a short term contract. He won't be doing transfers so that one is safely covered. My only caveat. he must bring Paco back too. It's really tight this year and I'd love to have Rafa's tactical genius available to us. Leave the man management to Paco. It worked before.

Get us top 4 Rafa and you get another year.

Unlikely and probably unwanted by many. I know. but its a thought lol.


i know where ur comin from wiv that but it'll never happen

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20 Dec 2010 20:28:01
Look i don't hate rafa benitez, he will always be a big part in our club, but i don't want him back. he promised things which were realistic but in the end we came out looking like fools, while he leaves and joins inter with a huge budget. he left anfield giving us huge debt, with help from gilett and hicks. rafa bought some good players (reina, torres, kuyt) but we can all agree he bought flops (aquilani-hes not a full flop, poor guy was injured, stiil needs a chance at anfield, rafa agreed jovanovic deal and he aint looking good, babel as i have ranted b4 is a major flop but i love liverpool so he deserves a chance). instead of winning games, he was always in the media talking bout other managers and teams and never focused on liverpool. we all remember the game against birmingham last season when rafa took torres off and gerrard looked puzzeled. if rafa benitez was still in charge, well honestly i think we would still have hicks and gillett. as i said b4 rafa was a big part in our club, good and bad but we gotta move on and if we were to re-appoint rafa, we would just get in more trouble, money wise and result wise


Sorry mate, this is Balls. Have an opinion yourself instead of regurgitating the Red-Top s* te. FFS a Liverpool fan has a certain responsibilty, and that is to read the date on a paper and IGNORE the rest. Grow the fk up and grow a pair.

But hey, if you prefer Hodgson instead of scaring the s* t out of the aristocracy of Europe then WTF do I know eh?

ferd {ed's note - what is with every Rafa lover claiming that you have to want Roy if you don't want Rafa? They are two separate issues, so stop using Roy to make Rafa look better, neither are up to the task.}

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20 Dec 2010 20:23:41
Liverpool Rumours
Have u all gone mad on this site? the fat waiter has taken a treble wining side into a team placed 7th in the italian league . i would ask for my season ticket money back if he came back.

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20 Dec 2010 20:18:05
20 Dec 2010 16:45:35
I respect everyone's opinion on the subject of our managerial situation, but I am puzzled over the love for Rafa. Why are there people who would want him back at the club? May I remind a few that the man was on his way out when the team unexpectedly hit form, 4-0 against Madrid, 1-4 at United etc. He signed his 5 year extension after that and it all went downhill the next season. Prior to that, you'd struggle to find anyone to back him. Now, he is struggling at Inter and seems to have signed his own death certificate after openly criticizing Moratti ove lack of funds in the transfer market. 2005 was special and to this day I get goosebumps thinking about it, but that's all the man accomplished in 5 years at the club. I won't talk about bad signings, rotation policy and crazy rants. Rafa got plenty of time and money and did very little with it. Our next manager (yes, I want Roy out) needs to be someone with fresh ideas and great ambition so that hope can be restored at the club. Unfortunately for Rafa, he does not have what it takes to take on that role.
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This is one of a few posts i've been fortunate to read about Rafa that's been posted today and and over the past few months. And i still can't believe what i'm reading about the man.

The reasons i love Rafa are

2 Champions League Finals (1 win)
1 FA cup.
Champions League Football every year except 1.

His good signings
Reina (our best GK ever)
Torres (Rafa phoned him personally)
Mascherano
Alonso
Luis garcia
These signings are and always will be cult heroes (except Mascherano) at our club.

And the most improtant thing to remember is he is an LFC fan, He adores the club as much as we do, He adores the fans and he adores the city. It would be fair to say that if he was asked "Were do you live?" he would say Liverpool. We've all heard him say his home is Liverpool and he will return one-day.

So the ones that are giving Rafa a hard time remember he is and always will be one of us.

Can you say the same about that idiot Hodgson?

Blair Mayne YNWA

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20 Dec 2010 20:13:16
"20 Dec 2010 19:02:22
Rafa Benitez gave me the greatest night of my life. I will not slag him!"

Was he tender?

*sorry, couldn't resist ;)*

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20 Dec 2010 20:08:05
OMG. Now another club 'has no direction'. Does the man ever think that the problem might just be HIM. Never has done and never will accept responsibility for anything that is wrong. It is always somebody else's fault. Bad and all as things are now, thank goodness RB is gone - he's another loser.
Believable if you agree.
Brando

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20 Dec 2010 19:56:31
Come on NESV give us LFC fans the gift we want the most for Christmas-A NEW MANAGER who plays entertaining attacking football not the rubbish we are witnessing under RH plus a few decent signings would be brilliant because its about time us LFC fans had something to cheer about

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20 Dec 2010 19:38:00
Rafael Benitez was better than Gerard Houllier , but we must be able to do better than both for our long term prosperity .

1977

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20 Dec 2010 19:31:58
I would never want to see Rafa back at the club as manager. He is a control freak. At Valencia he kicked up a fuss because of transfers, he did the same with us, now he's at it again at Inter. Does anyone really think Rafa would entertain the thought of working alongside Comolli?

It would be another boardroom war in waiting. The club needs to move on. New owners, a new CEO soon to be in place. All we need is a young, ambitious modern thinking manager. Roberto Di Matteo maybe? Bit risky I know, but he knows the english game inside out, gets WBA playing positive football and more importantly has a humility about him.

Thoughts?

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20 Dec 2010 19:24:11
Liverpool Rumours
Santa please get us owen coyle asap
i will be a good boy for ever and ever
please please please
thanks

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20 Dec 2010 19:08:43
It would be very foolish of young Conor Wickham to join the Spuds.

and even more foolish to join the bindippers

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20 Dec 2010 19:08:21
Mrs Benitez tells Rafa to meet with Liverpool officials this Christmas and beg forgiveness. He realises now he didn't realise what a good thing he had at Liverpool with mostly supportive fans. Mrs Benitez and the kids are the boss in that family and they love living on the Wirral with their friends.

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20 Dec 2010 19:04:11
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All this chit chat regarding Rafa. I think he had one bad season. He lost the plot. There's no doubt about that. But. the club and everyone else involved had lost the plot too. If Roy cocks it up between now and the new year I'd take Rafa for the rest of the season on a short term contract. He won't be doing transfers so that one is safely covered. My only caveat. he must bring Paco back too. It's really tight this year and I'd love to have Rafa's tactical genius available to us. Leave the man management to Paco. It worked before.

Get us top 4 Rafa and you get another year.

Unlikely and probably unwanted by many. I know. but its a thought lol.

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20 Dec 2010 19:02:22
Rafa Benitez gave me the greatest night of my life. I will not slag him!

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20 Dec 2010 19:01:52
Ho ho ho u want rafa back ho ho ho im sorry 50 chin roy is stuck in the chimny sorry ho ho ho

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20 Dec 2010 19:00:49
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Premier league have expressed concerns over bloomfield road and the surrounding areas already ahead of the boxing day game. They have told blackpool they want the game to go ahead and will leave the decision as late as possible

Mick

If only nesv were planning on a new manager in january, this may mean one less game hodgson can mess up

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20 Dec 2010 19:00:38
Ed you say gary cahill is a hoofer, look at what carragher has been doin for years and he is a liverpool legend. a defender is there to defend not to play football. i'm sure if cahill has the ime he will play football on the ground. boltons tactics is long ball to kevin davies so he is obviously told to do a long ball. i think he would be a great signing
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Bolton have been playing good football this season from what I've seen. Definatly a complete contrast to what they were like under Megson and Allardyce.

As for the hoofing, well it's true that Carragher is a legend at the club but the hoofing (if you ask me) is down to the managers mainly. I mean, if Hodgson (and Benitez and Houllier before him) hated the hoofing and had a massive problem with it, then he'd tell Carragher to stop hoofing - just like he tells the team to drop off and sit deep. Probably become a habit for Carra now.

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20 Dec 2010 18:58:00
Liverpool Rumours
Whos Gomis an Perotti ED? {ed's note - only Gomis I can think of is Bafetimbi(sp?), he is a striker who plays for Lyon. Perotti is a right footed left winger who plays in Spain for Sevilla, tricky and has been playing well for them this season.}

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20 Dec 2010 18:51:31
Don't be surprised if we go to Blackpool and get a good drubbing. I actually wouldn't be surprised if we got beat 3-0. We all know Blackpool go for it and we know how Roy will set us up to play. They'll be on the front foot and we'll just drop off and let them move it around and go at us and gain confidence.

Bet if the weather's bad players like Maxi, Torres and N'Gog will simply not be up for it and we'll get kicked around the park.

Not looking forward to it at all.

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20 Dec 2010 18:44:16
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Ed you say gary cahill is a hoofer, look at what carragher has been doin for years and he is a liverpool legend. a defender is there to defend not to play football. i'm sure if cahill has the ime he will play football on the ground. boltons tactics is long ball to kevin davies so he is obviously told to do a long ball. i think he would be a great signing

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20 Dec 2010 18:44:09
Liverpool Rumours
Sorry fella you can forget the spurs ones as posted b4 both walkers plus obika have big BIG futures at the the lane, and as for wickham he will NOT be going to anfield!

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The Spuds seem to be roaming these pages for no particular reason and pointing out how we're not going to get such and such a player.
You say "BIG futures at the lane", that's rubbish. Your team is a graveyard for promising careers, possibly worse than us. Name one player that regularly plays in Spurs' lineup and is also a product of their youth system - none. You could argue Ledley King, but he spends more time keeping the medics in the job than playing. It would be very foolish of young Conor Wickham to join the Spuds.

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20 Dec 2010 18:43:13
Ho, Ho, Ho, 'What's this little ones, you want Raffa back for Christmas? Ho, Ho, Ho, am sorry buy we are stuck with Roy.
Redeyedsanta

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20 Dec 2010 18:24:21
He can tackle, passes ok can cross pretty well and at the end of the day tries to get up and down. Before you all jump on me, im not saying hes a good player, or that hes good enough for liverpool, i just don't see him as an immediate critical problem like another striker and some wingers. Having NO left back like we did before he was brought in WAS a critical problem, so id be happy to leave him til the summer, by which time i would have expected him to have improved on his current form. Then in the summer we can push for an AWESOME left back. Like me.
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Of course he can tackle, that's a basic for any defender at any level in football - so not an attribute that deserves to be credited to him.

I really couldn't defend Konchesky in any way, shape or form. His defending has been awful all season and players have got in behind him time and time again. He's cost us goals, and considering out negative style of play and lack of ability to create chances, every goal we concede is massive.

So I consider him a critical problem, and I have no doubt that his awful defending will lead to us conceding more goals this season.

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20 Dec 2010 18:23:01
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, you seemed really certain that Roy won't ever play Agger.
Have you had info that you trust, about Roy never wanting to play him?
If its true, it just adds to one's mounting perception that Roy doesn't want defenders who can actually play with some skill, and that attitude alone will eventually doom the stupid bugger, whatever else happens- surely in the modern game you need a reliable option to play it creatively forwards and out of defence, rather than just hoof it? Not playing Agger damages that option, surely?
{Editor's note - I am not the Liverpool Ed but wasn't there an arguement between him and Roy}

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20 Dec 2010 18:16:09
Liverpool Rumours
Imagine. . . . .Villa Boas with Rafa as his number 2?. . . corrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! ! ! !

won't happen though!

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20 Dec 2010 18:01:46
Liverpool Rumours
Liverpool Rumours
Rafa will be coming back to Liverpool, not to manage but to live, expect him to leave Inter in the next couple of days.
Maybe he could give Roy a few tips!

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Yes because rafa (the genius) left liverpool with such a strong squad and youth players. . .not! !

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20 Dec 2010 17:58:42
Bring in Owen Coyle and give him money to take Stuart Holden with him. Would please the fans and the Americans.

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20 Dec 2010 17:55:37
Liverpool Rumours
Hi ed have u seen all this crap goss raffa come home an come save us all an all that. i say it should NEVER happan, ok its right just because little gaffa has had a poor start ok ture. but facts as a lot of posters say, let me see whot u say on this ed i would love liverpool to be winning everything under the sun fact.but ed are fans are the best in the world but some are so fickle raffa done well fact i would go with that BUT AT WHOT COST ED, the money wasted ed by raffa was so bad with money so much money on so many poor signings with no return it was raffa that left the team as it was. roy has had no time no money an the fact that whot money there was 4 him 2 use he had to replace players that were on there way anyway just as he got in are hot seat the club was in a right state he took the job had no clue just whot sort of mess we were in now lets see if are new owners help him an whot they have in store for are great club. . . . jay essex red 4 life red till dead happy xmas everyone i know whot ive wished 4 up the pool {ed's note - Roy shouldn't be allowed any say in signings, in fact the only thing he should be doing is signing a resignation letter.}

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20 Dec 2010 17:54:06
Liverpool Rumours
Why don't we go for the Lokomotiv Moscow midfield Alan Gatagov, only 19 and looks a good promising player. hes a russian u21 international and would only cost about £1m and hes worth at least 4 times that.

MansfieldRED

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20 Dec 2010 17:46:22
Liverpool Rumours
Having heard all the rumours and watched the players talked about quite a few times in my opinion the three players I would love to see us sign are Honda, Turan and Andy Carroll. We lack speed, creativity, match winners and a strong partner to take away a lot of the burden and attention off Torres. Those three players would give us all that and more and they are all reasonably priced.

I am not saying these will happen (though the Honda deal does sound promising) but with the three of them in the team added to the players we have I'm sure even Roy Hodgson could get us higher up the League than we currently are.

Ed, earlier one of you categorically stated that Mourinho will never be Liverpool manager and when asked why by someone just repeated he would never be our manager, why, I don't see why not. With Mourinho being the narcissist he is and still wanting to put two fingers up to Abromavich, in my opinion the Liverpool job is tailor made for him. Were he to take over as Liverpool manager and get us back where we belong winning the League it would just strengthen his status as The Special One and would make him the first manager to win the Prem with two different teams and it would give him a big one up over Benitez which I'm sure he'd love and would rub it in. I can certainly picture him standing in front of the Kop arms spread wide lauding the love and chanting from us fans on there after a big win a la Shanks. There would be a lot more gain to be had for his narcissism winning the League with us than Man Ure. The Ed said Mourinho will not be Liverpool or Man Utd's manager but everyone knows he wants to come back to the Prem some time and if he weren't to take over one of us two then where else would he go? Again I'm not saying this will happen but I certainly don't see why not!

Great site, keep up the good work, Cheers.

Scarface

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20 Dec 2010 17:42:41
Tevez has withdrew his transfer request, hope this means they won't bod for el nino, jimmybosun

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20 Dec 2010 17:39:45
Liverpool Rumours
I have just posted a 'interesting' picture concerning benitez on the dodgy sightings page. when it passes the review you should all check it out! !

jimbo lfc

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20 Dec 2010 17:20:36
Ed - Rafa might have aired the club's dirty washing in public, but at least he faced up and took on the Texan cowboys. Posterity will grant him that favour.
Would you have liked to do the job with those pricks in control of the club ?
Would you have been able to keep your trap shut? {ed's note - there are better ways to deal with things than the ones he chose. Rafa did what got him the most power, he played petty politics with the club, instead he should have concentrated on doing what was best for the club.}

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20 Dec 2010 17:17:33
Knowing what you do now, select BELIEVE if we should have kept RAFA and UNBELIEVE if we were right to appoint Roy.

Fabian Treezle {ed's note - pointless to even put this poll up - two completely different questions.}
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Considering Roy replaced RAFA, I can't see how this is two completely different questions. I know you don't like RAFA but you shouldn't let your bias prevent a reasonably interesting poll.

Fabian Treezle {ed's note - nothing interesting or reasonable about it, it is still two distinct questions. One is whether Rafa should have gone, which he clearly had to go. Two is whether Roy should have been the man to replace him, which it is clear he is not.}


ok who do you think is a better manager out ov the 2? {ed's note - there is no question that Rafa is a much better manager, that is very clear.}

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20 Dec 2010 17:08:18
Hodgeson said, "I brought in [Paul] Konchesky to play left back, Raul Meireles to replace [Javier] Mascherano and Joe Cole came in at the same time as me as well as Christian Poulsen. The other players I have inherited."

- - Yea sure Roy. .and all of em have been utter * * so far this season except Raul.

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20 Dec 2010 17:06:23
I respect everyone's opinion on the subject of our managerial situation, but I am puzzled over the love for Rafa. Why are there people who would want him back at the club? May I remind a few that the man was on his way out when the team unexpectedly hit form, 4-0 against Madrid, 1-4 at United etc. He signed his 5 year extension after that and it all went downhill the next season. Prior to that, you'd struggle to find anyone to back him. Now, he is struggling at Inter and seems to have signed his own death certificate after openly criticizing Moratti ove lack of funds in the transfer market. 2005 was special and to this day I get goosebumps thinking about it, but that's all the man accomplished in 5 years at the club. I won't talk about bad signings, rotation policy and crazy rants. Rafa got plenty of time and money and did very little with it. Our next manager (yes, I want Roy out) needs to be someone with fresh ideas and great ambition so that hope can be restored at the club. Unfortunately for Rafa, he does not have what it takes to take on that role.


i agree with you rafa shud not be back here again as we need to look forward not back

wen he was here he made strange decisions an that was dwn to stress an pressure which was put on him by those 2 f***in scum bags from america

he made teams all over europe fear us again, top seed in CL, nearley won the league not to mention istanbul and an FA cup

lets not call for the re-instatement of rafa but lets not slag the man off, he loved the fans an the ppl of liverpool he understood what the club meant to the city an its fans

hes a whole lot better than woy lets face it

thanks rafa i wish u well in the future

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20 Dec 2010 17:05:53
Knowing what you do now, select BELIEVE if we should have kept RAFA and UNBELIEVE if we were right to appoint Roy.

Fabian Treezle {ed's note - pointless to even put this poll up - two completely different questions.}
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Considering Roy replaced RAFA, I can't see how this is two completely different questions. I know you don't like RAFA but you shouldn't let your bias prevent a reasonably interesting poll.

Fabian Treezle {ed's note - nothing interesting or reasonable about it, it is still two distinct questions. One is whether Rafa should have gone, which he clearly had to go. Two is whether Roy should have been the man to replace him, which it is clear he is not.}

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20 Dec 2010 17:00:39
Puzzled over love for Rafa ?
Mate, you shouldn't be. We got 1 x FA Cup, a 2nd place when we were the best team in the League that year, consistent, 1 X Big Ears and continued qualification and progression in the CL. To the extent that we were the top rated European team and the one that Barca and everyone else wanted to avoid.
Fkn short memories some people
KB {ed's note - he also dragged the club through the dirt in public.}

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20 Dec 2010 16:58:51
{ed's note - what makes you think Konchesky will improve? He has never been any good, that is why he was sold by Charlton, he wasn't a good enough left back to get in their side and refused to play further forward. We really have sunk low when we are signing players not deemed good enough to get in an average (at the time) Prem side.}

he can tackle, passes ok can cross pretty well and at the end of the day tries to get up and down. Before you all jump on me, im not saying hes a good player, or that hes good enough for liverpool, i just don't see him as an immediate critical problem like another striker and some wingers. Having NO left back like we did before he was brought in WAS a critical problem, so id be happy to leave him til the summer, by which time i would have expected him to have improved on his current form. Then in the summer we can push for an AWESOME left back. Like me.
Duckula

AGUERO IN JAN {ed's note - doesn't matter if he can tackle or not when he is 30 yards away from where he needs to be to make a tackles. His crossing is, at best, average, his passing is poor and he has little pace. He was not good enough for Charlton, Spurs or Fulham, he is certainly not good enough for Liverpool FC.}

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20 Dec 2010 16:58:29
Liverpool Rumours
Bent - Bruce would not sanction selling (to us anyway)
SWP - City won't sell to rivals (be thankful in the case of SWP)
A Young - Houllier already received enough stick for his words/ actions towards us during the recent game. Villa fans would be all over him if he agreed to such a sale (another case to be thankful for)
Crouch - Spurs tend to sell to lower/ higher teams, not rivals for CL places
Dann - has potential, but then so do the youngsters we already have who are in desperate need of experience.

As for the Utrecht game, Cole was frequently out wide and isolated and neither he nor Pacheco had an impressive game.

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jesus christ guys i didn't say it was going to happen i said those were his targets FFS, i did say they arent all going to happen because "the comitee" won't let him. we will sign SOMEBODY from that list because young, and swp are england internationals, bent is scoring for fun. and scott dann is one of those players who if we don't sign manu or chelsea will get him and lots of people on this site will say "we should have got him this is not acceptable" just face it those are roys targets, but any regular on this site would know that hes not in charge of transfers "the comitee" is and those targets will be forwarded to the comitee. we will sign players three or four players in fact, and i am 90% confident that honda will be one of them. expect ALOT more players to be linked in the next few days.


Why would Roy be targeting players he has no chance of signing? I'm sick of hearing the same names over and over again like Young. Nobody knew Mereiles was coming so how this Me14 character can know who Roy is targeting is beyond me. Must be a psychic or something.

Atleast put the effort in to do some research through the FIFA 11 database. Search ages 21-25, minimum overall 78 max overall 82 and see what you get. Hopefully the results will be more interesting to read than f***ing SWP.

T1

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20 Dec 2010 16:49:22
Maybe because i'm stubborn on this subject that i refuse to accept that Rafa was a failure.

I can see why people wanted Rafa out, but i still wanted him in. No doubt posters will put the reasons why he shouldn't be there and that is their prerogative, however i am fair enough to agree with some issues to a point.

I will continue to post why he should remain. Plick Parry and H&G are two big examples who made his job far harder than it should have been.

Had many, many signings lined up (some class) only for Parry to completely ceck them all up.

He found consistency in our league finishes where Ged, Evans and Souness had found inconsistencies.

He found the same consistency in Europe.

Highest points haul in Premier league history.

Made Anfield a very difficult place to come and play, whereas under Houllier in particular it was an easier place to get points.

The foundations were there. Eroded by the financial position those two plunderers subjected us to, and with complete and utter mis-management in the boardroom to contend with, he not only inherited the worst squad we had for many a year, our only half decent striker wanted out as soon as he got there, all the money sunk into a striker he didn't want before he got there and still he got us far further up the ladder.

Rafa knows how to play attractive football, we did it in 2008 to great effect and he certainly achieved it whilst with Valencia.

Don't forget the progress made that the levels of last season ruined. Had all five years been like 2009/ 10 i would concur most heartedly with the Ed and Mushroom and all.

But they weren't.

Bob the Red (never will win this argument me thinks!)


tell u what mate everythin u jus said i agree with rafa was a great manager for us he understood what this club means to the fans, he deserved another season or 2 with fresh owners an new ideas

i for 1 wiush him every sucess wherever he goes

gaz {ed's note - he talked a good fight, but who was responsible for most of the financial restrictions? People forget that every time you sell a player you have to pay them a 'loyalty' bonus which takes a huge chunk away from the money received. His constant chopping and changing of the squad, selling and buying huge amounts of players, cost the club millions. Plus his huge wages, the huge squad of back up players who picked up massive amounts of money to watch from the bench. The guy was a disaster for the club, the amount he spent should have won us the league not just a top four place.}

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20 Dec 2010 16:46:58
Knowing what you do now, select BELIEVE if we should have kept RAFA and UNBELIEVE if we were right to appoint Roy.

Fabian Treezle {ed's note - pointless to even put this poll up - two completely different questions.}

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20 Dec 2010 16:46:55
Liverpool Rumours
I think i've heard it all now - Jon Otsemobor! !

(1) He isn't at Southampton now (even they cut their losses)
(2) He isn't the new Johnson as he's actually older
(3) He used to be a Liverpool player for Christ's sake and wasn't good enough. The only thing anyone remembers about him was him being shot in the arse!

Oh and to the Spurs lad who keeps maintaining that Wickham is nailed on, i hope he has more evidence than his previous predictions. No offence mate, but if we believed everything you said, Comolli didn't sign a half decent player and the world wants to play for North London's second biggest team - neither holds much water.

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20 Dec 2010 16:46:13
Bob the red why didn't we win the league 2 years ago?

LAVERS

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20 Dec 2010 16:45:35
I respect everyone's opinion on the subject of our managerial situation, but I am puzzled over the love for Rafa. Why are there people who would want him back at the club? May I remind a few that the man was on his way out when the team unexpectedly hit form, 4-0 against Madrid, 1-4 at United etc. He signed his 5 year extension after that and it all went downhill the next season. Prior to that, you'd struggle to find anyone to back him. Now, he is struggling at Inter and seems to have signed his own death certificate after openly criticizing Moratti ove lack of funds in the transfer market. 2005 was special and to this day I get goosebumps thinking about it, but that's all the man accomplished in 5 years at the club. I won't talk about bad signings, rotation policy and crazy rants. Rafa got plenty of time and money and did very little with it. Our next manager (yes, I want Roy out) needs to be someone with fresh ideas and great ambition so that hope can be restored at the club. Unfortunately for Rafa, he does not have what it takes to take on that role.

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20 Dec 2010 16:44:35
Does Woy ever release a sensible press statement. Nicely undermines the team, effectively saying he would like to completely rebuild it with new players. Idiot. There is real quality in the team, a couple of creative players and a change to more attacking flare would see us back to the level LFC should be. Get Woy out asap, the man is blind to modern football, lacks the ability to even represent us in press conferences and is generally ignorant to the fans/ players. He is not worthy of the club, and he is getting paid for this damage?? Ridiculous. Bring someone else in as a clear caretaker manager until you find the right man for the job, Woy will just damage us further as time goes on. Stop it now.

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20 Dec 2010 16:28:50
Liverpool Rumours
THIS MADE ME LAUGH, Bayern Munich have joined the race to sign Liverpool's unsettled striker Glen Johnson. JUST READ IT ON THE GOSSIP PAGE ON BBC SPORT, COME ON SURLY BY NOW THEY SHOULD KNOW HE IS A DEFENDER. JUST GOES TO SHOW NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING THE PAPERS SAY NEXT THEY BE SAYING BIN LADEN JOINING LFC IN JAN LOL. {ed's note - Johnson is a defender? I can't say I ever noticed him do any defending. . }

Perhaps we should play him as a striker then! Maybe that's what we have been doing wrong

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20 Dec 2010 16:28:24
Maybe because i'm stubborn on this subject that i refuse to accept that Rafa was a failure.

I can see why people wanted Rafa out, but i still wanted him in. No doubt posters will put the reasons why he shouldn't be there and that is their prerogative, however i am fair enough to agree with some issues to a point.

I will continue to post why he should remain. Plick Parry and H&G are two big examples who made his job far harder than it should have been.

Had many, many signings lined up (some class) only for Parry to completely ceck them all up.

He found consistency in our league finishes where Ged, Evans and Souness had found inconsistencies.

He found the same consistency in Europe.

Highest points haul in Premier league history.

Made Anfield a very difficult place to come and play, whereas under Houllier in particular it was an easier place to get points.

The foundations were there. Eroded by the financial position those two plunderers subjected us to, and with complete and utter mis-management in the boardroom to contend with, he not only inherited the worst squad we had for many a year, our only half decent striker wanted out as soon as he got there, all the money sunk into a striker he didn't want before he got there and still he got us far further up the ladder.

Rafa knows how to play attractive football, we did it in 2008 to great effect and he certainly achieved it whilst with Valencia.

Don't forget the progress made that the levels of last season ruined. Had all five years been like 2009/ 10 i would concur most heartedly with the Ed and Mushroom and all.

But they weren't.

Bob the Red (never will win this argument me thinks!)

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20 Dec 2010 16:27:34
Liverpool Rumours
If we spent a bit of money on youth. we could have a great team!
GK) D. Bounzanis
LB) Bruno Pilatos (English from M'borough. 17yrs.)
RB) Martin Kelly
CB) Andre Wisdom/ Danny Wilson
CB) Ayala
RM) George Thorne (from WBA. .in England's U19's.)
CM) Jonjo Shelvey
CM) G.Bruna
LM) Suso/ Sterling
CF) Dani Pacheco/ M.Ngoo
CF)Suso/ Sterling

it COULD be the best in the world.

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20 Dec 2010 16:20:06
Ii like it how liverpool are using the press to advertise the fact that jovanovic is available for 3,000,000

me14

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20 Dec 2010 16:17:13
Liverpool Rumours
You've got to laugh at some of the reactions to such absurd rumours posted on here, don't people realise 99% of things put on here are complete waffle christ it's a rumours site and most people are either havin a bit of fun or a bit of a dream, let's get xmas out the way, celebrate the new year then get down to the serious business of the transfer window where hopefully we'll spend a bit of money on a bit of quality to improve our beloved team.

Paul
ps just seen kaka, benzema and alonso at john lennon airport swap deal for ngog, poulsen and lucas

I'd laugh my leg off if this actually happend

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20 Dec 2010 16:12:21
What is all this rubbish about rafa coming back as manager. . don't you people see the mess he has left behind at anfield. .he has now now turned the champions of europe in a wreckage. .quote;we need 4or 5 players at inter. . WHAT! this is a squad that everything last season and he wants more players. . sounds familiar. .when things go against him he throws out we need more players card. . MESSAGE TO RAFA. get overself man. .your nothing but spainish big sam. .your football resembles nothing more than rugby. .1, 2, 3, kick for touch. .NEW career path. . politics. .i think you'd be great. .

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20 Dec 2010 16:06:47
Liverpool Rumours
We can forget the spurs lads but not because they have big futures at the lane but because championship teams will sign them, then move on to small prem teams, then top-10 teams then possibly top four teams. tottenham don't produce youngsters they sign and sell for a profit, except gareth bale (but he came from southampton) of course, but he only started playing because assou-ekotto was injured. spurs just sign players for the team and use youngsters as third-backup. take danny rose for example he wants to leave because he never gets a chance in the team. he wwill probably end up back at leeds (tottenham always sign youngsters from other clubs) and then another prem team and so on. but yes we will not sign any of tottenhams youngsters and im glad because of any of you have seen our academy you'll no we have ngoo, suso, sterling, and tomas silva and they're all amazing not to forget wilson and shelvey who we signed and are already good enough for the premiership.so stop worrying we have brilliant youngsters. you all take NESV's "policy" to literall, the "youngsters" we sign will be 20-25 year old players for the first team.

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20 Dec 2010 15:53:49
MUSHROOM,

You clearly have forgotten the Ged era where we struggled to even finish 5th? Along came Rafa and BAMMM in 2008 we were voted strongest performing team in Europe. Comfortable position in the top 4 of the league and a long, long list of clubs in Europe that we beat.

Not saying that Rafa was perfect, far from it and he made some bad errors. But everyone seems to have taken for granted our relative success over the last 5 years.

I must say Utrecht/ Blackpool at home, Stoke away are reminders to us all of what we now have to expect.

I said it with true belief in the summer, we will rue the day we got rid of Rafa, so i'm not being a smart arse now.

Change was made for change sake and because 30% of the fans wouldn't accept the performances from last season and wanted a change in manager.

30% has swelled to 93%. I think many fans now regret wanting rid of Rafa who still remains our best manager since 1990.

Bob the Red {ed's note - Rafa was a failure, no matter what way you try and cover it up, Rafa failed miserably in the job he was appointed to do. He was appointed to do one thing: win the league, he failed to even prioritise it. Rafa fully deserved the sack for dragging the club through the dirt week in, week out in the media. The fact that the wrong man has come in to replace him does not change that he had to go.}

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20 Dec 2010 15:40:48
Liverpool Rumours
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - 8mil
Ryad Boudebouz - 4mil
Oscar Wendt - 5mil
Yann M'Vila - 7mil
Adil Rami - 12mil
TOTAL : 36Million

SELL :
Aurellio/ Insua/ Kochesky - 3/ 8/ loan mil
Agger - 8mil
Poulsen - 3mil
Jovanovic - 3mil
TOTAL : 14-22Million

I TRUST COMIOLI MORE WITH TRANSFERS THAN HODGSON! tHERE WE HAVE YOUNG TALENTED PLAYERS WHO COULD REACH PROTENTIAL WITH A SEASON.
WHAT YOU THINK ED ? {ed's note - I have only seen Wendt play a couple of times, both in the Champions League this season, but he was awful, I didn't see anything to recommend him whatsoever. To be honest I don't see any point in that bunch of transfers at all, they are all hopeful, potentially good players. We need to buy first team players, ones to come straight in and improve the team, not more squad players.}

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20 Dec 2010 15:39:41
Liverpool Rumours
Hodgson: Reds aren't my team yet

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Now Roy thinks he has not done enough by bringing in the likes of Konchesky, Poulsen, Joe Cole and Raul Meirilles(for whom the scouting team should take credit). . . . . .

So now he would like to bring in the likes of Carlton Cole, NZogbia and so on. . . .

Only then will he consider the task of converting Champions League contenders to a mid table team. . .

We should throw Hodgson out. . . . . .

Pritam

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20 Dec 2010 15:32:27
I think a few of rafas family are on today mushroom.

LAVERS

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20 Dec 2010 15:26:31
His name is Rafa Benitez.

I tweeted this today to our leader :)

Bob the Red {ed's note - I really don't get your obsession with Rafa, he is a politician playing at being a football manager.}
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Stop living in the past. Benitez plays as much negative football as Roy. He is the one that left the team in the state it is. If you take away the Champions League win in 2005 (which was always going to put him in the hearts of Liverpool fans) he never really achieved much apart from a FA cup triumph.
We need a manager to take the club forward. An attack minded coach who plays the pass and move style football that we used to play which made us successful.
The only conclusion I can come to is that you must be related to Benitez.

MUSHROOM

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20 Dec 2010 15:13:01
Liverpool Rumours
I hope to be able to shed a glimmer of light on the Anelka mystery. I used to attend training sessions at Melwood on a fairly regular basis while Graeme Souness, Roy Evans, and Gerard Houllier were at the helm. Following one of these training sessions one of the more senior coaches indicated that Anelka's brother was the problem, rather than Anelka himself. I seem to remember that Anelka's brother was also his agent at the time. The impression I was given was that he was very difficult to deal with. I should point out that I no longer attend Liverpool training sessions and can provide no information at all regarding the current regime.

Red Owl

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20 Dec 2010 15:11:32
Ed, thanks to the good work u ar doing. I lov dis site very much and i agree with all ur opinions u give. Im giving shoutouts to first of all u and after, some of the guys who make dis site enjoyable such as Blair Mayne, macca, Mushroom etc. Mushroom since when did u start posting on dis site. I never saw ur post until recently. Are u James 007. A question to u Ed, who are ur first five best midfielders in de EPL. Thanks
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I have been called Bond before, but it was Brooke Bond. I started posting about a couple of months ago when I stumbled upon this site. I enjoy the banter and being put right by the Eds. And Blair Mayne and Chris 1 make me smile. . . sometimes.

MUSHROOM

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20 Dec 2010 15:09:23
Ed,

I am firmly of the opinion that if NESV and Rafa were together we would be up there and challenging year in, year out.

Yes i accept the football on offer last year was dire and yes it was an unacceptable season and i also accept he made some mistakes but judging his entire tenure i believe it was a big success.

Comfortably getting into top 4, comfortably getting into the later rounds of Champions league and all with owners and Chief Exec's who weren't fit and basically un-employable.

With sound and realistic investment, Rafa's the man, was the man and is still the man. How many wanted rid of Rafa last summer in the mistaken (and dumb) belief things would go better?

Thank you. We should never have gotten rid of Rafa, should have held on and seen that the club was due to be sold and that with new owners with decent investment and proper management skills in the boardroom we could only improve.

Look at us now. A complete mess with an incompetant man in charge. If we knew then what we know now how many would want rid of Rafa?

Thank you. Get Rafa back. .NOW.

Bob the Red

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20 Dec 2010 15:02:32
Dear Santa,

For Christmas I have only one wish. Good attacking, free flowing football at Anfield played by Liverpool.

Oh and Santa if your feeling generous a Premier League Trophy for next season

Thanks

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20 Dec 2010 14:43:00
Liverpool Rumours
Ed, thanks to the good work u ar doing. I lov dis site very much and i agree with all ur opinions u give. Im giving shoutouts to first of all u and after, some of the guys who make dis site enjoyable such as Blair Mayne, macca, Mushroom etc. Mushroom since when did u start posting on dis site. I never saw ur post until recently. Are u James 007. A question to u Ed, who are ur first five best midfielders in de EPL. Thanks

FAMOUS {ed's note - for me it would have to be Nasri, Essien, Gerrard, Fabregas and Modric (though Gerrard and Fabregas are there on their ability rather than form).}

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20 Dec 2010 14:38:08
Ed

I read a report by Brian Reade on Saturday about the situation we are in with our manager. It was titled The Kop should back our caretaker manager, which as my previous post last week was completely against my thoughts, but reading it further he spoke how the board are very unlikely to get rid of Roy (unless there's a massive blip somewhere) so rather than causing ripples @ Anfield maybe we should just accept that isn't the Liverpool way & however difficult it is create the kinds of atmospheres that Anfield is known for in the knowledge that Roy is merely just the man keeping the seat warm for a Coyle, O'Drisscol or whoever it may be.
Unfortunatley I've said all this & I'm not a season ticket holder & only get to a couple of games a season but when I read the article it seemed to make sense.

Luigi Riva {ed's note - I do understand his point and can agree, up to a point. The problem is that we are nowhere near where we should be and I can't see us doing anything more than slip down the table into mid-table mediocrity and away from the European places with Roy in charge.}

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20 Dec 2010 14:36:07
"20 Dec 2010 14:20:49
Liverpool Rumours
As a committed arm chair supporter from down south. .id be interested to know what the general feeling is towards Roy from the loyal fans inside and around anfield. There is often a discrepancy between what is said on rumour sites and what the loyal fans actually think. Managers have always been given time in the past. How many of the anfield faithful really want him out already? 50%? less?more?

Genuinely interested to hear from fans on this.

agueroinjanuary"

As a fellow Southerner who struggles to make the journey, if i may, i'll answer as i see it.

When at a game i try to stay upbeat, clap, cheer and generally try to stay positive and get behind the team. In the pub afterwards, having paid money to see a goalkeeper being ruined by poor coaching, a defence that thinks a pass has to be played seventy yards through the air, a midfield consistently almost to a man played out of position (Meireles on the right?), one of the world's greatest strikers with no service, a manager unable to use substitutions to positively affect the game and having heard post-match comments that a point is a good result? Well, then i moan that he can't go soon enough and drown the rising bile with alcohol.

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20 Dec 2010 14:31:24
Hi Mr Henry, As a long and loyal fan of this fantastic club I, along with many thousands of fans do not believe either the short or long term future is secure with Mr Hodgson at the helm.

Whilst there is no denying he has abilities in the art of management, managing a club the size of and with the expectation and demand of Liverpool football club is clearly beyond his abilities.

He is quite simply unfit for the purpose that he was hired for.

Rather than 'waste' money, after your initial superb outlay on buying the club and saving Liverpool from certain financial disaster, by spending on players that the manager wants, wouldn't it be prudent to cut your losses now and get a proven, class and experienced manager into the position?

We need someone who knows the fabric of the club, the history, the fans, the expectations and what it takes to bring success to this great football club.

One candidate. He will shortly be available, doesn't need any settling in periods, just needs to have good investment in the squad given to him.

His name is Rafa Benitez.

I tweeted this today to our leader :)

WHY?

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20 Dec 2010 14:23:06
Hi Mr Henry, As a long and loyal fan of this fantastic club I, along with many thousands of fans do not believe either the short or long term future is secure with Mr Hodgson at the helm.

Whilst there is no denying he has abilities in the art of management, managing a club the size of and with the expectation and demand of Liverpool football club is clearly beyond his abilities.

He is quite simply unfit for the purpose that he was hired for.

Rather than 'waste' money, after your initial superb outlay on buying the club and saving Liverpool from certain financial disaster, by spending on players that the manager wants, wouldn't it be prudent to cut your losses now and get a proven, class and experienced manager into the position?

We need someone who knows the fabric of the club, the history, the fans, the expectations and what it takes to bring success to this great football club.

One candidate. He will shortly be available, doesn't need any settling in periods, just needs to have good investment in the squad given to him.

His name is Rafa Benitez.

I tweeted this today to our leader :)

Bob the Red {ed's note - I really don't get your obsession with Rafa, he is a politician playing at being a football manager.}

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20 Dec 2010 14:20:49
Liverpool Rumours
As a committed arm chair supporter from down south. .id be interested to know what the general feeling is towards Roy from the loyal fans inside and around anfield. There is often a discrepancy between what is said on rumour sites and what the loyal fans actually think. Managers have always been given time in the past. How many of the anfield faithful really want him out already? 50%? less?more?

Genuinely interested to hear from fans on this.

agueroinjanuary

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20 Dec 2010 14:18:17
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20 Dec 2010 12:58:05Liverpool RumoursIf nesv are expecting a backlash from supporters over the sacking of roy, i don't think they have much to worry about. time to show them how we feel on the subject sack roy- bel.keep roy for season- unbel.be honest folks
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think we have 18 people on here who should really get back to their own club's rumours page

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20 Dec 2010 14:07:49
Liverpool Rumours
Valentin stocker who is he?

ed? {ed's note - Swiss international, plays for Basle I think.}

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20 Dec 2010 13:59:45
Liverpool Rumours
Just a couple of players that i hope liverpool take a look at!.

Fernando Amorebieta-Tough tackling centre back from Athletic Bilboa. We were linked a couple of years back and he could be a real steal!

Santiago Cazorla-Wing Wizard perhaps not as good as Alexis Sanchez or Eden Hazard but would be worth a real go instead of highly over rated David Bently and Ashley Young.

Alan Dzagoev-One of the most promising youngsters coming out of the russian League. Would Cost a fair bit though.

Keisuke Honda- Dead Ball Specialist High Working Flair he has everything a premier league player requires.

Mauro Zarate- Dont think he has been linked since Roy has took over but he was immense at Birmingham and he could be just the answer to liverpools problems.

Pablo Hernandez- Again one of the best young wingers at the moment in La Liga!. could be pricey though! .

Maurico Isla- One of the stars of Chile's world cup a right back who can get forward and defend!. Udinese player!. Would be the best replacement for Johnson if he were to go.

Hulk- I don't see any reason why we wouldn't get him. He would cost over the 20 million mark but we are at that stage again where LFC can bid those amounts for players.

Sergio Aguero- Again worth a go. Although costly liverpool are well in with a shot of getting him!. who would have thought we would have got Fernando Torres when we did!. i can see this one having a real possibility! .
Please Ed your thoughts! {ed's note - most of these I agree with, not convinced by Zarate though, he just doesn't do enough for me.}

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20 Dec 2010 13:59:08
20 Dec 2010 11:34:23
Liverpool Rumours
Hey ed what do you think of alvaro negredo of seville?
hes a half decent player who has been linked with us in the past, could be perfect back up for nando, and could be had at a decent price because seville are apparently in financial trouble. {ed's note - every team in Spain has financial problems, except for Malaga who have their very own oil sheikh. I like Negredo, he would suit the Prem, I think, he seems physically strong enough.}
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I agree ed. I like Negredo too. Also most Spanish clubs have much more debt than most english clubs perhaps apart from Utd, plus the whole Spanish economy is on the verge of collapse. If Spain needs bailing out think Ireland times 5. I can't see any Ronaldo style transfers to Spanish clubs in the near future.

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20 Dec 2010 13:53:04
Liverpool Rumours
They say that Comolli wants English talent, however you guys are complete idiots on WHAT English players he should buy.

Fwds:
Conor Wickham(Ispwich): Great, strong player. Costs around 3m
Frank Nouble(West Ham): Another great stiker. Quick, skillful, has a great finish. 2-3m striker
John Obika(On loan to Crystal Palace from Spurs): Amazingly quick. Like, Usain Bolt quick. 1.5m
Mids:
Josh McEachran(Chelsea): Great left winger, sick cross and really fast. 3m
Oxlaide-Chaimberlain: WInger or plays in the hole. Lightning quick, nice finish. I haven't seen him cross much though. Southampton want 10m, so we will loan him.
Defs:
Kyle Walker(Tottenham):Wingback with a really great cross. Quick, but his stamina is kind of poor.3m
Kyle Naughton(Tottenham): Wingback, kind of like Kelly. Quick, great cross, and you could play him at CB if he wasn't as short as he is.4m
John Ostemobor(Southampton): Wingback with more pace than Messi. Nice dribble, nice pass, nice cross. New Johnson. 2m


All of this is 19m, and our young guys would be best in the country- or even in the world. The word "Barcelona" comes to mind.

Wickham(Pacheco) Nouble(Obika)
McEachran Sheveley(Bruna) Spearing Chamberlain
Walker Wilson Ayala Naughton(Ostemobor)
Hansen/ Bounzanis
Sterling comes through in a few years too, right? {ed's note - you clearly have no clue either, McEachran is a central midfielder for starters, Nouble is a headless chicken for seconds and I can't even be bothered to point out the idiocy of including Otsemebor who we let go a few years back and was released by Southampton in the summer, joining Wednesday on a free.}

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20 Dec 2010 13:52:33
Liverpool Rumours
If Torres goes in Jan these new owners will move the club on in the Summer. I don't know how Hodgeson is still there. Surely the long term view would be to appoint a Manager with a view to the long term? Then the next Manager will have to deal with whatever Roy has bought in Jan? I doubt we will move for any decent players just s* te like Cole etc for the squad. Low wages.

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20 Dec 2010 13:51:07
Liverpool Rumours
Thanks for the great site ed, on here everyday looking at the posts. I constantly see people saying we need to sign Mr. X because of X X and X. On a good day our first team could beat any premier league team, laugh as you might, but don't forget our 2-0 win at chelsea, it was 2 amazing strikes but torres, but it was a team effort, i think were we fall back is our subs and 2nd team, we saw that last wednesday against FC utrecht, i think we need to sign a well known good player, and stop trying to buy unheard young players and make them into good players(its just not working). My point being we defo need to strength the 2nd team, call back aqualani, hes miles better than lucas(please leave in jan) we should buy Honda (it would be nice to buy a left footed player to play on the left wing) but other than that i can't really see any other issue with our first team.
I have a few questions that maybe ed or someone else could answer, alexandre pato(i know i said we shouldnt be signing young unknown players, but i think he proved his worth at AC) since the introduction of ibra and robinho, do you think we should have a bid in for him? And whats the situation with Kaka at RM? im not saying sign him, but just wondering.
YNWA {ed's note - Pato has never really shown anything special to me, he looked great at 16 but has not made the progress that was expected, in my opinion. Kaka has been out injured, it will be interesting to see what happens when he is fully fit though.}

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20 Dec 2010 13:50:09
Liverpool Rumours
20 Dec 2010 12:28:59
Liverpool Rumours
Rafa sacked from Inter. Here come all the bring back Rafa brigade. I'd take anyone over Hodgson, but not sure Rafa is the right move.
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My bet would be Rafa going to either La Liga, Germany or Russia.

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20 Dec 2010 13:48:43
Liverpool Rumours
He can't go quick enough in my opinion! useless twunt. didn't want him in the first place, my thoughts havent changed.

with you 100% on that one mate. he brings nothing to the club but negativity and doubt. honestly, i think we would do better without a manager than with him. at least the players could play how they liked, in their own positions.

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20 Dec 2010 13:48:14
"Sorry for being off topic, but some of the claimings about the Bundesliga here are plain wrong and every Bundesliga fan knows that. I know that it is difficult to observe the Bundesliga as much as we do, but you should not claim to know more than us about it."

It's very easy to watch the Bundesliga here. ESPN provide 3 live games a week and a comprehensive highlights show (albeit with the worst commentary in the world). A very good league with entertaining games. For what it's worth, i think Robben is very talented but he is also a diving, cheating scumbag and we'll never forgive him for getting Pepe Reina sent off a few years back. It was ridiculous, almost like Lee Harvey Oswald was in the crowd

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20 Dec 2010 13:45:14
Liverpool Rumours
"Roys targets are:d.bent, swp, a.young, peter crouch, scott dann"

If this is true, we are in trouble. If Roy is a short-timer, he should not be allowed to "put his stamp" on the team. Bent is too expensive, SWP and A.Young are overrated, and we've already been there and done that with Crouchie. Even though Dann has played well this season, not sure he is of the quality LFC should be looking at.

And please, no more talk of Rafa coming back to LFC; he and Roy are similar in that they both waste money, Rafa overpaying and Roy not buying quality.

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20 Dec 2010 13:31:27
Liverpool Rumours
I agree completely with the Ed here. I really don't like Robben. I think he is far overated. He only ever does one thing, cut inside onto his left foot. I rarely see him try to put in a cross. That is not what liverpool need. Not to mention he is one of the biggest divers in football. How can that guy call him Bayern's best player? Ribery and Scheinsteiger are miles ahead. For all his off field issues, I would still love to have Franck at Liverpool.
Anfield Rapstar

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Well, how many Bayern games have you watched last season? As a German Bayern fan I have almost watched every game and can assure that Robben was by far the best Bayern player. It is no wonder that he won the title "footballer of the year" in Germany. Ask a Bayern fan and EVERYONE will tell you that Robben is Bayern's best player. And I dare to say that they know Bayern better than you do.

I do not know whether or not Robben used to dive at Chelsea or Madrid, but I can assure you that he never dived once at Bayern. There was not even a supsicion by media and football fans. Just ask any Bundesliga fan. It does not matter which team he supports, he will tell you that Robben is not a diver (anymore). It seems like he has matured a lot.

Schweinsteiger is Bayern's second best player, but claiming that Ribery would be better than Robben shows that you have not observed Bayern much since Ribery has played s* t for the last one and a half years. His first season was great, his second one okay, his third one s* t (was injured all the time or played very bad) and without any motivation (wanted to transfer to Real) which made us Bayern fans very upset. Instead of concentrating on football he spent time in. . well, you know there (think of Rooney).

At least Ribery has decided to stay and is improving in the last few games, so he is not as bad as last season anymore. But he is not better than Robben and every Bundesliga fan can confirm this fact.

Sorry for being off topic, but some of the claimings about the Bundesliga here are plain wrong and every Bundesliga fan knows that. I know that it is difficult to observe the Bundesliga as much as we do, but you should not claim to know more than us about it.

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20 Dec 2010 13:29:53
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If nesv are expecting a backlash from supporters over the sacking of roy, i don't think they have much to worry about. time to show them how we feel on the subject
sack roy- bel.
keep roy for season- unbel.
be honest folks
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20 Dec 2010 13:28:56
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{ed's note - Johnson is a defender? I can't say I ever noticed him do any defending. . }

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Yep his defending ability is right to be questioned. which begs the question of why he has not been shifted to the right wing, making use of his good attacking ability and why Kelly has not been drafted in is right back. Dont think I have seen a bad performance by Kelly this year.

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20 Dec 2010 13:28:54
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"20 Dec 2010 12:33:55
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Roys targets are:d.bent, swp, a.young, peter crouch, scott dann

those are roys genuine targets and they will be put forward to "the comitee", honest and truly those our roys targets.they will not all be signed probably scott dann and bent are most likely. honda deal will be completed nut he will be played as an attacking left-back, and a new winger, not sure of that one because there will be alot of names mentioned over dec-jan. over next few games pacheco will be LM and cole will play behind torres, both players impressed in that position and linked up well against utrecht.

me14"

If this is genuine, and Roy gets his way, it will just about seal his fate as far the fans are concerned. With the exception of Bent, who will be too expensive anyway because he's one of the English players who has a decent and proven strike rate, there are far better and cheaper options abroad.
I can't believe he will get even one of these suggestions past Comolli. They just arent good value for the money spent, and it shows a mid-table mentality again.

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20 Dec 2010 13:17:36
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Was just on the official lfc website and the poll question was, who has been the best player so far this season? not surprising that meireles tops the poll with 27%, what is surprising is that poulson beats kuyt and kelly in the poll. outrageous!

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20 Dec 2010 13:04:18
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20 Dec 2010 11:41:27Just a few names in the world of football past and present, to give a little giggle
Chiqui Arce
Ars Bandeet
Stefan Kuntz
Johan de Kock
Milan Fukal
Argelico f*cks
Rod Fanni
Have-A-Look Dube
Bongo Christ
Segar b* tard
Dieter Stinka
Danny s* ttu
Peter Shirtliff
Fanny Schamp
Quim
Prince Polley
Brian Pinas
Johnny Moustache
Andre Muff
Ralf Minge
Jesus Zamora
Wolfgang Wolf
Wayne Wanklyn
Mario Turdo

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20 Dec 2010 13:00:05
When were the good times under rafa apart from first 2yrs maybe. Then rafa well and truly made his mark on the team. Rafa wasted money yr after yr, I remember one season he spent about 50million on 10 players or something stupid like that. And he said he got no money, granted not as much as he wanted but still should have done a better job.

LAVERS

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20 Dec 2010 12:55:49
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Woys targets are:- d.bent, swp, a.young, peter crouch, scott dann

Having juts read woys words of wisdom on the LFC site. Wot planet is the guy on?

Having got bored reading how woy believes in his ability, he he now comparing himself to Harry. Harry the twicher who turned a poor Portsmouth side into a top 10 cup winning side. OK he may have been give more money than he should, but if you were given money, would you not spend it?

How can woy even use sPURS as an example? When HR took the helm at the lane, the team had less points than the average driving license, the only danger of getting in to europe was on a summer holiday. Just to clarify HR turned relegation certainties into a side challenging for honors at the highest level playing football that is pleasing on the eye. woy is in danger of turning a top team into relegation contenders, challenging only for the euro disney (mickey mouse) cup, we need to be in Florida with the beautiful people.

Why we keep getting linked with other teams cast offs, rejects and has beens is a joke, we have enough average players on the books. The team does not need a band aid, but stitches. If the owners are looking at youth lets play them, band aid players will not get us a top 4 finish and we will have the same problems next year, season over before November, with a squad that lacks quality in depth, width and pace.

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20 Dec 2010 12:53:54
Anyone wanting rafa back is deluded and has no idea about how to run a football club. he had his chance and did not make the most of it. Move on, get a new man in. If he behaved differently he would still be in charge at Liverpool - but sadly he is not level headed enough to handle the pressure.
RED FIRST & LAST.

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20 Dec 2010 12:50:21
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Rafa sacked from Inter. Here come all the bring back Rafa brigade. I'd take anyone over Hodgson, but not sure Rafa is the right move.

I agree just watch all the muppets shouting for Rafa's return. I think i'll avoid visiting for a few days till they shut up and get over it. Intrer win 5 titles in a row Rafa brings them to the heady height of 8th place then starts shouting that 4-5 players need to be bought to be competitive. Sound Familiar ?

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20 Dec 2010 12:43:04
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Re this

Roys targets are:d.bent, swp, a.young, peter crouch, scott dann


That list looks worrying, but don't forget Comoli's involvement in any deals before they get approved.

Having said that, if we added Bent, A Young and Honda to our squad I would say that would improve us. Five years ago SWP would have been a good signing, not now. Scott Dan. .FFS, we might as well sign Paul Konchesky. .oh wait, we did!

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20 Dec 2010 12:30:46
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Has Rafa left Inter?
If so, a message to the owners get him back now! And may the good times return.

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20 Dec 2010 12:26:31
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West Ham have been linked with a 6 month loan deal for Ryan Babel and also Daniel Pacheco loan move to Malaga looks back on!

Not too sure about the Sturridge rumour, think that would be a £5 mil set back. Can i just state that we need to buy a top quality winger, everone speaks about a strike partner for Torres. We've bought tens of million pounds worth of striker and shifted them out on the wing. Here are a few examples.

Diouf- £10m
Cisse- £14m
Bellamy- £6.5m
Babel- £9m
Kuyt- £9.5m

TOTAL - £49m! !

I think if u would have played at least one of these players in correct position then our problem would be solved. Whats your thoughts ed? {ed's note - I just think it is time to stop hanging on to tactics and trying to fit the players into those tactics. Let's fit the tactics around the players we have to get the best from them. If Kuyt is playing then he has to play up front, same with Pacheco, the latest one being forced to play out wide.}

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good god! when you see it like that you realise just how shockingly bad we have been in the transfer market! £49m wasted.

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20 Dec 2010 12:25:29
Ahhh thankyou ed! the smartest thing said on this situation in a while, a good manager will adapt tactics to the players he has, not try to get players to adapt to their his tactics by playing them out of position. playing players in their preferred position would be a big step forward for liverpool right now
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While I complety agree with what your saying, this would leave us without a left or right midfielder/ winger.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - that's why we would need to go 4-3-3.}

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20 Dec 2010 12:24:00
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LOL FAIR POINT ED

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20 Dec 2010 12:19:13
{ed's note - we already have Jesus at the club. . }
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Tell him to get his finger out and stop having a cross to bear.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - that noise you are hearing, that is everyone groaning when reading this. . . }
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Ha ha it had to be said. If it wasn't me it would have been someone else. I'm a bit suprised you didn't add a little extra something ed.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - I was too busy groaning to add more to it!}

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20 Dec 2010 12:16:50
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{ed's note - I just think it is time to stop hanging on to tactics and trying to fit the players into those tactics. Let's fit the tactics around the players we have to get the best from them. If Kuyt is playing then he has to play up front, same with Pacheco, the latest one being forced to play out wide.}

ahhh thankyou ed! the smartest thing said on this situation in a while, a good manager will adapt tactics to the players he has, not try to get players to adapt to their his tactics by playing them out of position. playing players in their preferred position would be a big step forward for liverpool right now

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20 Dec 2010 12:15:01
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To this guy

A response to the person who first posted this;Stefan KuntzBongo ChristJohnny MoustacheDanny s* ttuTwo-Sons Gladstone GamedeCreedance Clearwater CoutoNorman ConquestBernt HaasHave-a-Look DubeAll would be welcome at Anfield!

on the main football rumours banter page is a list of those players plus more. check it out

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20 Dec 2010 12:11:42
{ed's note - we already have Jesus at the club. . }
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Tell him to get his finger out and stop having a cross to bear.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - that noise you are hearing, that is everyone groaning when reading this......}

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20 Dec 2010 12:09:31
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I know pienaar would love to play for liverpool, and most fans would like to see him at the club, but would nesv allow the transfer? isn't he 28? even if he was available on a free in the summer, is he worthy of a starting 11 place? it may sort out half of our width problems, but with younger, better wingers around, maybe on half of his wages, would it be wise to sign him? if we paid a small fee in jan for him, would we get that money back after a resale? if we got him for free in the summer, he can dictate his own wage. what would it be? 60k? 70k? 100k? no thanks. i would rather pay 15m for a young winger, on maybe 30k-40k a week who has his career in front of him.

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20 Dec 2010 12:09:06
Mascherano's problem whether Fabregas arrives or not is Busquets. Mascherano can't get a game whilst Busquets is on form. He is very much the unsung hero of this phenomenal Barca side.
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While Busquets is a quality player, I think Xavi is the one that Barcelona will struggle to replace, he makes everything tick.

MUSHROOM

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20 Dec 2010 12:06:01
Some things never change. what a shock. rafa benitez wants more money at inter. i give them 2 seasons and they will be in huge debt like we were
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2 things mate, 1) Rafa will not be there for 2 seasons and 2) we no longer have any acquisition debt.

MUSHROOM

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20 Dec 2010 12:03:52
Ed what do you think of Marcell Jansen he turned us down in the summer. Would cost about 7m {ed's note - he would be a huge improvement over Konchesky, but then a one legged donkey with no eyes would be an improvement on Konch. . .}

If ur gonna get a left back it HAS to be mamadou sakho. He is AWESOME, YOUNG, DETERMINED, UNSHAKEABLE, A BORN LEADER, FAST, ALMOST AS TOUGH AS CARRAGHER and he is really a centre back so he could cover for agger being out all the time.
Personally i reckon konchesky will improve anyway, but id still definitely want sakho at liverpool before someone else gets him and he is developed into the best centre back in the world.
Duckula

PS NESV - WE HAVE TO SIGN AGUERO IN JAN {ed's note - what makes you think Konchesky will improve? He has never been any good, that is why he was sold by Charlton, he wasn't a good enough left back to get in their side and refused to play further forward. We really have sunk low when we are signing players not deemed good enough to get in an average (at the time) Prem side.}

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20 Dec 2010 12:02:20
{ed's note - because he would want to discuss tactics etc, Ged thought he was too strong minded, which is strange because he loved that about Gary Mac. I am sure I read somewhere that Ged admitted it was a big mistake as well, that he should have signed him. But I am probably getting that wrong, can anyone back me up or otherwise on that?}
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If memory serves me right I think it was down to the price we were quoted for him. I can't remember the figure exactly but it was astronomical (I think £18m). He ended up joining Man Citeh for £13m which was a lot less than was quoted to us.

MUSHROOM

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20 Dec 2010 11:54:20
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Well i did say my memory isn't the best lol. i was young then also, maybe because we didn't sign him, is the reason why i thought he wasnt great. do you know the reason why we didn't sign him? {ed's note - because he would want to discuss tactics etc, Ged thought he was too strong minded, which is strange because he loved that about Gary Mac. I am sure I read somewhere that Ged admitted it was a big mistake as well, that he should have signed him. But I am probably getting that wrong, can anyone back me up or otherwise on that?}

thanks for the insight ed. ive always liked anelka as a player, when he went elsewhere (bolton and recently, chelsea) he became somewhat prolific, i often remember wondering why we got rid.

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20 Dec 2010 11:53:25
As the rumours of transfers are repeating a lot, i thought, just for fun, i would post a few previous players names that were a little funny or unusual and i invite you to add to the list if you can think of any

A response to the person who first posted this;

Stefan Kuntz
Bongo Christ
Johnny Moustache
Danny s* ttu
Two-Sons Gladstone Gamede
Creedance Clearwater Couto
Norman Conquest
Bernt Haas
Have-a-Look Dube

All would be welcome at Anfield!
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I'd go along with Bongo Christ, I think we need some divine inspiration at the moment.

MUSHROOM {ed's note - we already have Jesus at the club....}

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20 Dec 2010 11:51:24
What i've seen of Wilson so far is that the lad looks like he will become a very good defender, but for me isn't tall enough to be the commanding centre half we need him to be. He has pace. positional sense and can tackle, so when Agger returns I would like to see Wilson tried at Left back. Also, until Jan (at least) we have no natural width, so just use what we've got, don't put round pegs into square holes. Heres the team i'd select:

Reina

. Johnson. . . . Kelly. . . . Agger. . . . . .Wilson. .

Gerrard. . . .Meireles. . .Cole

Pacheco

Torres. . Babel

For me the need for a L and R winger is greater than a striker, but that's not to say we don't need one though.

Tommy Walsh

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20 Dec 2010 11:47:29
Ed what do you think of Marcell Jansen he turned us down in the summer. Would cost about 7m {ed's note - he would be a huge improvement over Konchesky, but then a one legged donkey with no eyes would be an improvement on Konch.....}

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20 Dec 2010 11:44:40
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Rafa will be coming back to Liverpool, not to manage but to live, expect him to leave Inter in the next couple of days.
Maybe he could Roy a few tips!
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I think he already has on how to play negative football.

MUSHROOM

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20 Dec 2010 11:42:44
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Plz god not SWP and Crouch, two aging players with only one good attribute (speed and height). Even for 5m it wud be a waste of money for swp wen players like pienaar and stocker are going for that money. We need a top top quality striker, who can goal goals using their skill and also create goals, we also need pace upfront and crouch does not provide these things.

E.H LFC

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20 Dec 2010 11:38:18
People who call rafa "defensive". may i remind you:
4-1 against united
4 something against real madrid.
but MOST IMPORTANTLY, we scored more goals than any other team in the 08/ 09 season. Thats more than united, more than arsenal. Defensive my a*

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20 Dec 2010 11:37:44
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If Liverpool put a buy out clause on a player of Nando's quality then they are all retarded.

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20 Dec 2010 11:36:12
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Guys this is no lie, I was drinking on saturday night in the beach nightclub in birkenhead and John Actherberg (Tranmere old goal keeper and current lfc reserve goalkeeper coach) was in there. I asked a few things as you do and he told me Torres is happy at Liverpool but lacking alot of confidence at the moment and told me to wait until after January and winked. Not sure what to make of it but fingers crosses its good news. YNWA
StevoLFC


why anyone would want to drink in there i don't know ha :P

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20 Dec 2010 11:34:23
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Hey ed what do you think of alvaro negredo of seville?
hes a half decent player who has been linked with us in the past, could be perfect back up for nando, and could be had at a decent price because seville are apparently in financial trouble. {ed's note - every team in Spain has financial problems, except for Malaga who have their very own oil sheikh. I like Negredo, he would suit the Prem, I think, he seems physically strong enough.}

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20 Dec 2010 11:33:18
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Mixed emotions at the minute, Roy has vowed to us fans that he will make signing in January. Then after searching around I have found that he said he needs to bring in his type of players.

My team after Jan:

Riena, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Aurelio, Maxi, Gerrard, Meireles, Honda, Torres, Suarez.

Roys team after Jan:

Schwarzer, Steven Kelly, Hangeland, Baird, Gera, Murphy, Greening, Duff, Zamora, Andy Johnson.

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20 Dec 2010 11:31:59
As the rumours of transfers are repeating a lot, i thought, just for fun, i would post a few previous players names that were a little funny or unusual and i invite you to add to the list if you can think of any

A response to the person who first posted this;

Stefan Kuntz
Bongo Christ
Johnny Moustache
Danny s* ttu
Two-Sons Gladstone Gamede
Creedance Clearwater Couto
Norman Conquest
Bernt Haas
Have-a-Look Dube

All would be welcome at Anfield!

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20 Dec 2010 11:20:22
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Completely forgot about le sulk. hardly surprising though, he wasnt great while with us for half a season. {ed's note - he was excellent for us, it was a big mistake by Ged not to sign him.}

well i did say my memory isn't the best lol. i was young then also, maybe because we didn't sign him, is the reason why i thought he wasnt great. do you know the reason why we didn't sign him? {ed's note - because he would want to discuss tactics etc, Ged thought he was too strong minded, which is strange because he loved that about Gary Mac. I am sure I read somewhere that Ged admitted it was a big mistake as well, that he should have signed him. But I am probably getting that wrong, can anyone back me up or otherwise on that?}

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20 Dec 2010 11:19:30
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It looks like Benitez is on his way out of Inter according to Gazzetta dello Sport. What do you think the chances are of him heading back to LFC, Ed? Wouldn't be bad timing right now. . . {ed's note - thankfully there is very little chance of him coming back. The last thing we need is a manager who is more interested in politics than coaching the team.
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ha I appreciate your opinion. I just think he is one of the best available at the moment (not that it is saying much though). {ed's note - I would rather we got the right man for the job though, Rafa has many good points, but he is not a coach and he expected total control. Whoever comes in has to be able to work with Comolli, Rafa would spend his entire time trying to undermine Comolli and take total control.}

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20 Dec 2010 11:11:10
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Someone in the banter has wrote about Roy's constant complaining of what type of squad he inherited. The squad he inherited finished 7th, and with his transfer dealings thus far, the squad can't get out of the zone between 8th-12th - somewhere he is very comfortable. I see that he wants to bring in players, but i have no trust in any decision he will make. Letting Insua and Aquilani go - at a loss, and bringing in Konchesky and Poulsen for £10m- that £10m could have been spent on a Van Der Vaart or Honda, players worth £10m not 2 players worth £2m.
The type of players we want will not be attracted to us, based on the type of football we're playing and the manager in charge.
Hodgson's constant complaining in reminiscent of Rafa's latter days and should not be tolerated by the board.

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20 Dec 2010 11:09:29
Reading plenty of posts recently mentioning various managers possibly coming in to the club. Firstly, anyone suggesting we bring Rafa back has a mighty short memory. The football we played under his guidance was the same brand of uninspiring defensive dross we're getting under Hodgson. It's debatable how much credit he can really take for Istanbul, and despite a few good performances (that most of us could name them is testament to how relatively thin on the ground they were) we were generally narrow and defensive. Add to that his increasingly bizarre media antics which had the press-pack baying for blood, and he can only be viewed as a liability. Similarly to Hodgson, I like the man but not the manager.

As for Mourinho, the man is a vain, cheating idiot. You can say he is a winner, but his teams play uninspired football, and the arrogance of the man flies in the face of the traditions of our club. If ever there was a case of one man thinking he's bigger than the club then it's Jose. Rampant egos do severe damage to the stability of clubs. We're already hated by the media in general, and this would increase ten-fold with Mourinho in charge. It is incredibly important to win, but not at any cost. It won't happen.

Guardiola has, in my opinion, still plenty to prove. Losing to Inter in the CL semi's while obviously having the best team in football, plus the shocking lack of judgement shown in the Eto'o/ Ibrahimovic deal, suggest he is still very much learning the ropes. The team play wonderful football, and to his credit he lets them rather than holds them back, but with that squad they simply couldn't play any other way, and so the personnel dictate the tactics. Perhaps in a few years he might prove his ability, and fancy a fresh challenge, but not yet, and certainly not coming to a Liverpool side looking at a good three years of transition and rebuilding.

So who might come in? I'd say someone like Roberto Di Matteo, Michael Laudrup (very near the top of my preffered list) or Marco van Basten - a fairly young manager with some continental experience (managing or playing, either counts as the experience is as important culturally as anything else) who can be inculcated into the new structure without having the baggage of always having done things a certain way. It's possible we could recruit from the lower leagues, though I personally doubt this as it would be deemed too great a risk. I would think Boas would be a candidate, as well as the obvious Deschamps, though why he would consider a move so soon after rejecting one would be difficult to see. But I suppose my main point is that Benitez, Mourinho and Guardiola are absolutely out of the picture. And my personal shout is Joachim Low. I know that his club management success has been limited, but the tactical brilliance he brought to bear at the World Cup, and his willingness to use the best players regardless of their age, could well fit with our suspected recruitment policy. Well, either him or Ronnie Moran. .

SpanishChris

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20 Dec 2010 10:58:52
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Hi ed just wondering if the option to have Rafa back became available what's your two cents on the matter, I know alot of people are divided on the subject
{Editor's note - I do not think he will return to Liverpool}

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20 Dec 2010 10:36:35
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A lot of the players being mentioned just don't fit into NESV's criteria, they want a young British team coming through (players like Kelly, Shelvey and Wilson). I appreciate that there will be various other nationalities in the team, but only a few. At the minute, there is only 3/ 4(choose Konchesky at your peril) English first team players, I'm expecting this to change, and by the end of the summer there will be 6-7 in our team.

Realistically, a foreign player would have to be exceptionally good before signing.

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20 Dec 2010 10:15:52
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20 Dec 2010 07:19:43Liverpool RumoursI read a lot of posts on here about players that we should get on loan, bojan, negredo, granero, now alonso? now my memory isn't the best so can anyone tell me when we last got a player on loan? ed? for the life of me i can't think of any. as far as i can remember, no player has made it into the 1st 11 who was here on loan (though i accept i could be completely wrong). we should be a lending club, not a borrowing one.{Editor's Note: Anelka for one.}

completely forgot about le sulk. hardly surprising though, he wasnt great while with us for half a season. {ed's note - he was excellent for us, it was a big mistake by Ged not to sign him.}

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20 Dec 2010 09:46:41
Does hodgson not realise that when you become a new manager it is your job to g up the players already there not whine about it not being your team. I've never known a new manager buy 10 players or so when he joins a team. I mean look at what he did buy konches and poulson. He had about 10million and we all knew we needed wingers and a striker, so what does Roy boy do he spends nearly half on poulson to watch from the side. And please no more asking for rafa he played a part in this hole were in.

LAVERS

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20 Dec 2010 09:46:30
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In my opinion Liverpool need and are crying out for a player with sporting arrogance like suarez, united have Rooney, chelsa have drogba and arsenal had henry (the last time they won anything). We need players that will put there whole effort into winning a game that ain't affraid to hide when were losing! Suarez would be a fantastic addition and maybe he will cut out his biting and maybe he has learnt his lesson, sporting arrogance is what we've missed for years since the late 80s early 90s. What do you think ed? Are we short of a different stlyle of player?

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20 Dec 2010 09:33:37
Why are we being linked with nzogbia and c.cole? Dont we have enough average players in the current squad? Lets face it people we have new owners but nothing has changed in footballing terms. With signings like those we would be just another fulham either celebrating survival or a top 15 finish because torres, gerrard, pepe, raul etc will leave and i won't blame them. And ed, robben is a fantastic player. I don't really care about his attitude because on his day he is unplayable. For me the problem with lfc recently has been signing hardworking players eg. Kuyt instead of genuinely talented, quality players eg. Robben.
Red bl00ded!

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20 Dec 2010 09:15:28
If we were top of the league right now, would RH still be whining after every game about how it's not his team and that he is shouldn't be held responsible for how the team performs. I'm guessing he'd be taking full credit and he'd say it was down to his divine coaching abilities and flawless tactics.
-JRS

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20 Dec 2010 09:15:15
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Why is lfc linked with every retard player going around and not any star players?? cause we are sh*t. We will loose FT, PR, SG, and any other atar players if we have any that is. LFC were sold for peanuts and are still worth that compared to MUFC who are reported on the verge of being bought out for £1.5bn. Just goes to show you that LFC have always had monkeys running the club and now have upgraded to chimpansees

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20 Dec 2010 08:53:39
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Ed have u heard the rumour of southampton youngster Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain?? apparently the staff at southapmton rate him better than theo walcott. what do u think?

{Editor's Note: I know nothing of him.}

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20 Dec 2010 08:48:52
Some things never change. what a shock. rafa benitez wants more money at inter. i give them 2 seasons and they will be in huge debt like we were

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20 Dec 2010 08:47:10
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As the rumours of transfers are repeating a lot, i thought, just for fun, i would post a few previous players names that were a little funny or unusual and i invite you to add to the list if you can think of any
Derek Acorah (yes, the full of crap 'medium' on tv)
Berry Nieuwenhuys
Elisha Scott (girls name, no?)
Adriano Rigoglioso
Florent Sinama Pongolle
Rigobert Song
Geoff Twentyman
Barry Venison
Abel Xavier
Boudewijn Zenden
Øyvind Leonhardsen
Bjørn Tore Kvarme
Frode Kippe
Bob Kelso(scrubs?)
Vegard Heggem
Jan Mølby
Billy Molyneux
John Molyneux
David Pratt
Ned Doig
Titi Camara
Stig Inge Bjørnebye
Yossi Benayoun
Pegguy Arphexad
Dick Allman(lol)
Jock McNab
may have covered most but if you can think of any more, id love a little giggle

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20 Dec 2010 08:35:06
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19 Dec 2010 22:45:38
100m Euros is like over £80m. They won't get Torres and Fabregas for that given that both clubs don't need the money and will demand massive fees.

But I'd love to see Mascherano's face if Fabregas joined.


Mascherano's problem whether Fabregas arrives or not is Busquets. Mascherano can't get a game whilst Busquets is on form. He is very much the unsung hero of this phenomenal Barca side.

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20 Dec 2010 07:51:14
Hodgson may bear a slight resemblance to Liberace, but i have just seen Joan Hickson as Miss Marple, my god Its Roy in drag, honestly its uncanny!
Rich

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20 Dec 2010 07:43:27
If rafa benitez was still in charge, well honestly i think we would still have hicks and gillett.
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how did you figure that one? rafa spoke out against them and made the fans aware of those devils. THe opposite is true.
Also when gerrard looked puzzled at rafa taking torres off, Torres soon got injured a few days later so if rafa did anything wrong, it wasn't taking him off the pitch but putting him ON the pitch to start with. But with our thin squad he had no choice

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20 Dec 2010 07:19:43
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I read a lot of posts on here about players that we should get on loan, bojan, negredo, granero, now alonso? now my memory isn't the best so can anyone tell me when we last got a player on loan? ed? for the life of me i can't think of any. as far as i can remember, no player has made it into the 1st 11 who was here on loan (though i accept i could be completely wrong). we should be a lending club, not a borrowing one.

{Editor's Note: Anelka for one.}

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20 Dec 2010 07:11:05
Look i don't hate rafa benitez, he will always be a big part in our club, but i don't want him back. he promised things which were realistic but in the end we came out looking like fools, while he leaves and joins inter with a huge budget. he left anfield giving us huge debt, with help from gilett and hicks. rafa bought some good players (reina, torres, kuyt) but we can all agree he bought flops (aquilani-hes not a full flop, poor guy was injured, stiil needs a chance at anfield, rafa agreed jovanovic deal and he aint looking good, babel as i have ranted b4 is a major flop but i love liverpool so he deserves a chance). instead of winning games, he was always in the media talking bout other managers and teams and never focused on liverpool. we all remember the game against birmingham last season when rafa took torres off and gerrard looked puzzeled. if rafa benitez was still in charge, well honestly i think we would still have hicks and gillett. as i said b4 rafa was a big part in our club, good and bad but we gotta move on and if we were to re-appoint rafa, we would just get in more trouble, money wise and result wise
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I agree, I would not want Rafa back either. Rafa lost the dressing room so how many of our big players would want to leave if he came back?

MUSHROOM

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20 Dec 2010 06:01:19
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I believe that the owners will buy good players. Their main criteria is young and talented players. So anyone who is young and talented may come.
I also believe that they bought a very expensive player for $100m(£65m) for their baseball club in the USA.
I wish that we sell our deadwoods and focus on having 25 players team, full of quality.

Most likely we will bring a striker, winger, and a defender.

You'll never walk alone.

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20 Dec 2010 04:19:04
Look i don't hate rafa benitez, he will always be a big part in our club, but i don't want him back. he promised things which were realistic but in the end we came out looking like fools, while he leaves and joins inter with a huge budget. he left anfield giving us huge debt, with help from gilett and hicks. rafa bought some good players (reina, torres, kuyt) but we can all agree he bought flops (aquilani-hes not a full flop, poor guy was injured, stiil needs a chance at anfield, rafa agreed jovanovic deal and he aint looking good, babel as i have ranted b4 is a major flop but i love liverpool so he deserves a chance). instead of winning games, he was always in the media talking bout other managers and teams and never focused on liverpool. we all remember the game against birmingham last season when rafa took torres off and gerrard looked puzzeled. if rafa benitez was still in charge, well honestly i think we would still have hicks and gillett. as i said b4 rafa was a big part in our club, good and bad but we gotta move on and if we were to re-appoint rafa, we would just get in more trouble, money wise and result wise

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20 Dec 2010 01:13:04
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Ed answer me this why is Roy buying other teams throw aways. Man city and totrnham are. Teams we are buying players from don't want them like crouch and wright phillips. They are not doing nothing for their teams and that's why they r being let go. When he signed Meireles. I was like we are building a. Better team but tthe likes of poulsen and konchesky throw us back. We should be linked with Alexis Sanchez not Nzogbia. Suarez not C.cole that is the only way wwe are going to get better. If roy doesn't buy these players Nesv should let him go. You think is Torres had the quality of Real or Barca playing along side him he would drop his level, no because he would be afraid that he would be put on the bench. Ed do you think we will get these throw aways or will Nesv only allow the best to be bought. Let me know because if I see Carlton Cole in a red jersey I'm going to lose it.

{Editor's Note: Best to wait and see what happens.}

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20 Dec 2010 00:47:12
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I'm sick to death of Roy Hodgson repeating over and over that he inherited a squad that wasn't his. Every new manager inherits a squad. They know what they're getting themselves into before they accept the job. The squad is not poor at all.

Let's see the facts on the squad he "inherited":

Fernando Torres: Spain first choice striker, World Cup winner, Euro Winner, top 3 striker in the world
Steven Gerrard: England first choice midfielder
Pepe Reina: Best goalkeeper in the Premier League
Dirk Kuyt: First choice Holland international, World Cup finalist
Javier Mascherano: Argentinian captain, best DM in the world
Lucas: First choice Brazillian midfielder (currently)
Daniel Agger: First choice Danish central defender
Martin Skrtel: First choice Slovakian central defender
Carra: club legend, England international, would die for the club
Soto: best 4th choice central defender in the Premier League
Glen Johnson: First choice England right back

Roy has recruited the 3 worst performing players in Christian Poulsen, Paul Konchesky and Joe Cole.

Raul Meireles was scouted last Summer when Mascherano wanted to leave, so Roy can hardly take credit for him, although he is taking credit for it.

So Roy, it's time to stop blaming a squad full of internationals and take a good hard look at yourself. I only hope John Henry isn't falling for his crap.

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20 Dec 2010 00:46:02
Have rafa back?can you remember the look on stevies face when torres was going off as if to say what have you done and torres looking at stevie as if to say i don't know, it will stay with me as long as 7/ 11.jimmybosun

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20 Dec 2010 00:43:53
Latest news!

hodgson turned up at the fulham game yesterday, and after 90 minutes in the dug out said, todays performance was the best this season against a difficult fulham team, it was like playing against myself!
i must say though, it was difficult telling the teams apart as they both wore white!

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20 Dec 2010 00:23:05
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19 Dec 2010 23:14:52
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Would love a loan deal for alonso, he and jose do not see eye to eye, and a deal may be struck if madrid get swienstiger in jan. also ed, if liverpool are looking for a young tricky match winner, would you take arjen robben? no one has mentioned him yet. {ed's note - Robben is not young, his pace is not what it was, he is injury-prone and I don't like him at all.}

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Sorry, but as a German Bayern and Liverpool fan, I have to disagree with both of you.

1. Even if Real Madrid would not want Alonso anymore, why would they loan and not sell him? There is absolutly no reason and therefore this option is very unrealistic.

2. Schweinsteiger has extended his contract til 2016 recently. He does not want to leave Bayern and Bayern do not want to sell him. He will not join Madrid.

3. Robben has said that he wants to stay at Bayern for the rest of his career, because he has already played in the other big leagues (Spain and England) and has never been as happy as in Munich. Furthermore, there is absolutely no way Bayern would sell him as he is by far our best player.

4. I am a Liverpool fan myself, but we have to be honest: We are not in the condition to purchase a player who has played for Chelsea, Real Madrid and Bayern Munich. At the moment, we can not keep up with them.

5. I also have to disagree with the Editor, because last season was Robben best one in his career so far (haven't you watched Champions League?) as he has shown great performances in Bundesliga, DFB-Pokal, Champions League and World Cup. Besides Sneijder, Robben was the best footballer of the last season and better than he has ever been (why do you claim that he would have lost his pace?).

6. Since joining Bayern, he has not had injury problems anymore because of Bayern's great medical staff. His current muscle injury was caused by the horibble work of Netherlands' medical staff, which let him play even though he was injured in a preparation game. {ed's note - he has clearly slowed from the player that was one of the most explosive in the world. He is still fragile and I don't really care how well he played, I don't like him, he is a diving little cheat, one of Jose's best pupils and I find him distasteful.}

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20 Dec 2010 00:07:03
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I don't understand why my post
'Dear me I read some tripe on here!' ends up on the banter page when 99.9% of posts on here are total crap! I don't mean to be disrespectful but I log on here everyday and never read any real relevant information anymore. I'm sick of reading what people think, this is a rumour page. Sorry guys had to be said. {ed's note - and you think anyone is interested in reading that post?}

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