Liverpool Banter Archive August 20 2014

 

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20 Aug 2014 21:09:02
Eds I've seen that there are these sort of Dog collars which are electric and if the dog gets out out hand say barks at kids he gets an electric shock. Could the same be done for football players? Could we agree to sign
Mario provided he plays with an electric dog collar?
This way when he squares up to Branden or does something stupid on the pitch we could just zap him?
Preoblem solved?

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{Ed002's Note - Fans not players.}

20 Aug 2014 20:49:03
Hi Eds

Can we put these Falcao rumours to bed or not? Through the posts you said that " Falcao interest had been rebuffed". Of which I believe is meaning dead. But today and even tonight it's being said that we are in a good position for him and looking at a loan with option to buy for ridiculous money.

I want to believe the Ballotelli rumours and forget the fantasy off Falcao.

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{Ed002's Note - You mean Balotelli?}

20 Aug 2014 22:33:04
No mate, sorry, I mean can we put the nonsense of the Falcao rumours to bed and believe there is more truth in the Balotelli reports.

I just can't see how financially we can adjust for Falcao.

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20 Aug 2014 20:16:06
Sorry as I have read through the posts from earlier today. It's regarding the whole G Johnson contract saga.
I won't dispute what clauses are or are not in his contract as I know nothing. If this clause does exist that he has to play league games and we find no suitors to take him off our hands would buying him out of his contract be a possibility?
I saw this was asked this morning but it was answered vaguely. What would be involved with buying out the remainder of his contract, would it just be his weekly wages up until the end of the contract? Would there be other associated fees? I don't want figures but I'm interested to know whether it it is a possible solution financially?

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20 Aug 2014 19:54:12
Harry, I am really enjoying your posts and responses these days, do keep it up mate!

Also, when changing your usernames in the future, please do consider leaving some for the next generation or two. ;-)

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21 Aug 2014 02:48:52
Thanks buddy.
If Mario comes in. I would change my sign off name again.
"Y ALWAYS ME"

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20 Aug 2014 19:39:03
Hey Ed's, is it true we're looking at Johannes Geis to replace Lucas?

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

20 Aug 2014 21:47:49
I've got to say, This is a little ridiculous.
The guy is 24. He was 20 years of age when he was at City, His net worth in 2014 is £35Million.
I know this isn't an excuse, But if you had the world at your feet, on high amounts of wages you literally can do what the hell you want too, young and wild. Fame and Fortune going to your head?
I'm not being funny, I was exactly the same. I'm 22 a couple of years ago I got myself into trouble, nothing on the scale of him (because I don't have that kind of money) and I've since calmed down to focus on my own buisness.
but come on the guy was young his immature can you honestly say you wouldn't be a 'c*cky shit'

What I'm saying is, would you rather win the league with Balotelli, or lose out because we didn't sign a striker? And to save face?
Also if Suarez didn't have his transfer too Barcelona would you still allow him in our club?
When personally I think he's a lot worse then Balotelli.
I think abit of Love from us he'll be insane.
You should get behind any player that's coming too the club, I also hate the fact we slander Glen Johnson, He still wears the red shirt at the end of the day.

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20 Aug 2014 22:35:43
I don't care what a player does off the pitch (within reason), but the problem with Baloteli is that he often doesn't perform on it. Sulking in matches or getting booked or sent off for being petulant isn't likely to win you trophies is it? I didn't watch much Italian football last season, so I've no idea if he's changed and grown up or whether he's an accident waiting to happen. If we sign him it'll be a big gamble.

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I disagree with you about Balotelli, mate, think he's just a bit of a tool. Though I agree with you about Johnson, the abuse on here is grim towards him.

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20 Aug 2014 23:33:21
The last incident he got into was reportedly in 2012? I've watched him he does sulk he is arrogant when he scores (as I've rearly seen him celebrate with the team) but he can also score a goal out of nowhere.
That's your opinion you reckon he's a tool. My opinion I reckon he's changed.
And IF we do sign him, and he becomes a tool I'll gladly hold my hands up and eat my words but I'll never slander him.
I'm a Liverpool Fan and support the club.
I wouldn't hate somebody because they have a bad reputation.
Even though I reckon Suarez has out of order. I did have some heated comments towards him. But I wouldn't slate him the way certain people on here are doing to most players!
Borini, Johnson, Lucas etc.
If we do if we don't. I'll 100%Support the Guy.
Also this post was suppose to go on to the one below about balotellis past.

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I remember someone saying on 8 out of 10 cats that they liked balotelli because he acted how a genuine person would if they were in his position, and how other footballers all seem very dull, samey and boring.

I love personalities like balotelli, who do what they want, and don't do what is expected of them eg settle down with a page 3 model and have kids and be calm. i'd love him as a person at Liverpool and to be in the team.

They only side that bothers me with him could be his lack of effort, lack of team spirit, and just general idiocy with the football team itself.

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Coc ky is censored but sh!t is just hunky dory? Ed's. Did we have a big dinner today? :)

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{Ed001's Note - swear filter is playing up mate.}

No sorry but Glen Johnson's attitude is horrific he is lazy, he is apathetic, he doesn't care what happens, he costs us possession, he costs us goals, he is a liability. If he was a liability who gave 100% then he'd hardly get any abuse because, when its all said and done, we can only ask that a player give his all for our club. Johnson doesn't. He deserves all criticism levelled at him.

As for the 'Mario has matured' nonsense: he might not be setting fireworks off in his house anymore but he is still bone idle, unmanageable and so bi-polar it just, for the money, makes any move we make for him seem, to put it mildly, insane.

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20 Aug 2014 19:51:40
i posted this earlier at East Midlands Scouser but I want some of you other Balotelli-boffins to read it too. and think about exactly what this clown will bring to our great club.
Some of you talk of stats and potential. Balotelli will never realise his potential because he's a fool. And stats are misleading and very often do not offer a true reflection of any given player or situation.
Ignore also is the fact that none of his former clubs lamented his departure - in fact, both Citeh and Milan couldn't and can't wait to get shot of the clown! Yet here's you spouting stats and telling us all that he's a great bleedin player?! Have you not got eyes in your head man?
If you have then read this -
March 2012: Fined 400k for going to a strip club night before a game.
January 2012: he went into a local high school to use their toilet - and then wanders around the school for 20minutes.
2011: had a mock sword fight in an indian restaurant while violating [a Man Citeh imposed] curfew.
Jan 2012: deliberately stamps on Scott Parkers head during a game and received a 4 match ban.
October 2011: "WHY ALWAYS ME" nonsense! (Nuff said!)
Oct 2011: burns down his bathroom after shooting fireworks out the window.
Same month: benched for show-boating and missing an open net in a pre-season friendly in Florida.
May 2011: can't figure out how to put a warm-up bib on during a game. His attempts to do it are picked-up by TV stations and go worldwide. Overnight he becomes a genius!
March 2011: gets Citeh eliminated from Europa League following a karate kick on a Kiev player (Real classy).
March 2011: 'pranks' youth players by throwing darts at them; fined £100,000.
Dec 2010: gets in a fist fight with Jerome Boateng during training.
2010: racks up £10,000 in parking tickets and has his Maserati impounded 27 times.
2010-2011: racks up £300,000. in team fines.
And my personal favourite -
March 2011: subbed during a game because he says - wait for it - he has an allergy ------ to grass!
WHY ALWAYS ME!
BAAAHAAA!

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20 Aug 2014 20:04:46
lols. Are you dead sure all these comes from Him?

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That's why arsenal wanted to buy him because he's a tool? The only reason they walked away was because of the add on fees etc. So what if he's made a few mistakes in the past. He hasn't even signed yet and the Liverpool fans are shooting him down already. How about give the lad a chance first? He may actually turn out to be a quality signing if not then you can all slate him as much as u like. I can't wait to see him in a Liverpool shirt if it all goes through.

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So he has behaved since March 2012? fair play to him

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I kind of agree with you. Mario is very immature and could have a very bad effect in the changing room. I doubt Rodgers could handle him. At Liverpool we always say no one is bigger than the club and he has an attittude that is bigger than football in general. Signing him could be bad for Liverpool and will be bad for football. I'd rather give a kid a chance with Flano's attitude. Both are gambles! Liverpool never signed Paul Gasgoine, great talant but his attitude sucked. So does Mario's. I feel we are grasping at straws here. I don't care of the football opinions of EMS either.

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The most recent major incident you've pulled up is March 2012. That's literally over two years ago.

I've already said I'd want us to work with him and gove him psychiatric help. If it doesn't work out, just sell him on. Even if he doesn't chsnge his attitude he still guarantees another 15-20 goals. If Rodgers does get him playing to his full potential, we've got a player with scary ability.

We're not going to get Falcao or Reus etc. So it's either gamble on Balotelli or gamble on Eto'o/Huntelaar. I swear you'll all just look at the negatives of every transfer. Try living with the glass half full instead of half empty.

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Yeah, great post. You are right, he is a lunatic as you very well pointed out but, and its a big but, he can be an exceptional footballer. Remember back to Anelka and his early years and the greif he caused at clubs before he settled down. Maybe Mario could do the same? I don't know! Its a coin toss.

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Suarez also had some issues, didn't he? and so did Maradona and Paul Gascogien and a lot of other great players. Footballer are not priests or judges. They are showbiz people and being a bit less restrained than other footballer is not the end of the world (within reason). I am not sure all these Cavany and Lavazzi that will not move for less than 200K a week are better. At least he scored a winning goal in the WC in Brazil one more than them. And he consistently scored for all his clubs. ManC maybe didn't want him but without his contribution in the first half of 2011-2012 they would never been champions that season. Also - he was very young when in City let's hope he is matured a bit.

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I hope we sign him. 😁 he sounds like fun

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20 Aug 2014 21:27:13
am I really the only person that loves footballers doing hilarious irresponsible stuff like this? there's not enough footballers walking around city centre's high fiving people after a derby win for my liking

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Totally agree Jackzokay. Although Saurez has let the club down many times and have damaged our conservative reputation in the long term but we sort of accept it as he has always put 100% commitment onto the pitch and had that drive to win (which unfortunately drives him into other deviants acts on the pitch). With Ballotelli, not only he comes with a lot of baggage but he only play's good when he feels like it and sometimes can't give a monkey's generally about the club he plays for and his teammates. Not needed and wanted in Liverpool Football Club Asap.

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But otherwise that you like the guy?

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So, what's your problem? Did you not do anything wrong as you were growing up? Character, nothing wrong with a bit of character

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Nice one biscuits, gave me a good laugh that

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Get a grip jack

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Oh for goodness sake, I always thought the criticism directed at suarez was misguided but this is ludicrous.

The man can do what he wants! Why do so many people dislike others for being looney!

Why is it that in order to be acceptable to play for Liverpool, or any football team, you have to be a total bore? And that anything other is a disgrace!

Is it really going to disrupt our season if mario wants to enjoy himself and go to a strip club the night before a game? No, I don't really think so. he's a big boy and he'll be fine. Its his leisure time, and just because he may join the club you support, doesn't mean you can tell him what to do. Besides, it might of relaxed him before the game.

Out of the events you have listed, only 3 or 4 of them are actually damaging to the club. The rest are completely balotellis business and actually quite hilarious. Leave him alone for gods sake. Its his footballing ability that should be brought into question, not what he buys from john lewis.

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You realise those were simply indiscretions at citeh?

-He was fined for smoking,
-he was fined for smoking on public transport
-he was fined for driving without insurance in italy.
-he posed with a shotgun at a camera saying ''this is for all my haters''

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Sturridge and Balotelli are roughly the same age. You think they wouldn't be good on the same pitch together? Raheem and Daniel get Mario the ball in a good position, boom.

We would be sacrificing our defensive shape for an extra goal or two. but let's face it, we are nowhere near as good defensively as we are offensively. The reason we play Gerrard in DM is that he can spread the ball to the team, something we rarely saw against Southampton. Mario can hold the ball up quite well, as he's strong and agile.

Obviously, Falcao is a top class forward, but we don't know he's fully recovered, and he's never played in the English league. Balotelli spent a long spell with City.

I'd say if none of our top targets are available with a few days left, we should give it a shot. He could be the thing that's missing for us.

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Misunderstood Genius? Sounds like it to me!

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I think it would be prudent toignore his off the field nonsense and instead focus on his on pitch attributes like desire, grit, determination, putting in a performance when things aren't going his way. Or how about focusing on his attitude towards training and fitness, his own professionalism as a football player. He will scores goals if we sign him but he will cause more problems than he is worth and, for the money being talked about, does not represent anything like a good business deal. The club are mad if they actually go through with it.

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21 Aug 2014 03:26:41
Why does it matter? These things are not as bad as biting peopleor using racially questionable language? We found ways to separate the player from the person with Suarez.

If anything Ballotelli's antics are stupid but won't leave him missing 1/3 of each season.

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20 Aug 2014 19:49:30
Question for everyone - let's say we get Balotelli; we have a full squad - do you play one or two up top?

If one - Sturridge or Balotelli?

If Sturridge how do you think Balotelli will react; professionally or be unintrested?

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20 Aug 2014 20:06:09
Hoola

As I understands, BR wants us to play 2 up top in a diamond similar to last year with Sterling at the tip.

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20 Aug 2014 21:13:47
If that is so then why sign Markovic or Lallana? Although Lallana can play in the 10 where does that leave coutinho, sterling and Markovic. Makes no sense to me.

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20 Aug 2014 21:20:17
Fornax

Squad depth. You cannot play the same 11 twice a weak. You need quality replacement.

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Harry how do you understand what BR wants if I may ask haha but no really it will be a while to find the balance and formation to suit everyone I do not think ballo will sign tho

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Harry do you sleep regularly then post what was in your dream on here?

If we wanted two up top why haven't we played two strikers up top in pre-season (regardless of the players available)?

Do you think he had planned to play Remy and Sturridge up top had Remy signed?

Or is it that as we are linked with Falco / Balotelli etc. that it is now top up top?

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We will alternate formations depending on opposition and how games are actually going. Why do people think we will play one formation all season with the same starting eleven and subs?

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21 Aug 2014 02:49:25
The diamond was born out of necessity. Rodgers has always preferred a 4-3-3 set up. We have the players to satisfy a diamond right now. Signing someone up top would just make no sense when we need a world class winger, I do trust BR will get it right, but you should maybe take the hint from the interest in Lavezzi that were not after an out and out striker like Falcao and Balo.

Harry there is also a difference between squad depth and signing players who don't fit the system & if the idea is to be able to replace Sturridge if he gets injured then why on earth would we be looking at Falcao & Balotelli?

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21 Aug 2014 03:36:03
We have an option to play 2 up top but won't be starting matches like that. Admittedly harry we were doing this at the end of last season. This was mostly down to having no faith in our defending, just score more.

If you watch the front line in our 4-3-3 against Southampton it was constantly interchanging. The crucial change from last season being Sturridge running at the full backs to let sterling come down the centre.

I reckon whilst Lallana is out Coutinho will start out in left forward, tucking into the middle when needed. When he's back he'll play in an attacking 3 behind the forward with sterling and coutinho, hendo back to run from deep and help out stevie in the middle.

Then it will probably be sturridge or another forward -lambert/new signing - unlikely to play that diamond often if at all.

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20 Aug 2014 18:53:41
I just wanted to comment on this ballotelli situation. First of all there is no doubt he is a wonderful talent. He has everything:pace, power, rocket of a shot, can hold the ball, runs in space. when fully fit and when he wants to play football he is unplayable. So my conclusion is: If Brendo thinks he risk worh taking and will support the lad. Ballo has my full support.
YNWA

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It is not his talent that is questionable; if he wants he can be right up there as the most devastating strikers in the world.

It's his application of those talents that worries me.

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20 Aug 2014 18:51:06
Unsure how to rate him as a player, however I can't think of a realistic target who would be a better option tbh. Just going off who I can think of:

- Cavani, falcao, benzema, & Higuain - grouped this together as although better options just don't see any of them being realistic! All £40 + fee from established European clubs and would demand high wages I don't think we could afford.

- mario £17m/loan - bad side is attitude and work ethic which can't be overlooked. However; 1 in 3/4 goals a game, great ability/athleticism, can score any goal, BPL/CL experience, only 24 and one of the best penalty takers going (giving us Stevie, lambert, mario, and based on nationality can) with massive potential.

- huntelar £10-12m - great technique, good goal record and CL experience. But, lacks speed to match our style, no BPL experience, around 30 and can only play up top

- bony £20m (possibly £25+) - better goal record, good ability, good attitude, BPL experience, good in air/from distance. But, lacks pace and don't see how he would fit in with our style (more on this later).

- lacazette £15m - tbh only seen glimpses but looks a skilful, speedy forward who can play anywhere up top and would be the lowest wages. But 1 in 5 in the French league with no BPL wouldn't be as safe a bet as bony or mario

- eto free+big wages - just no is the wrong side of 40 and don't think he can cut it anymore.

From our options bony and mario are the best two we could get. A good argument can be made for bony but just can't see how he fits in. He can play as a 10 but with continho, sterling and lallana wouldn't, so has to play up top and don't see how you can fit him and Sturridge together due to the pace at which we attack. With him Sturridge sterling coutinho playing don't see it working.

Mario would be better suited could play as two up top and has the ability and athleticism to be part of a front 3 (with coaching), just a big concern on getting him to press and controlling his attitude.

Is a risk but think he can slot into our starting eleven or replace Sturridge if injured. If we got bony or stick with what we have and lost Sturridge I think the whole system we play would have to change. Not the best option but is the best option I can see that's available.

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20 Aug 2014 19:14:15
Lacazzatte for me mate, He looks the best in the lot and has got everything we need in a player to compliment Sturridge.

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Hi there as a Liverpool supporter all my life have a few friends that follow city and there exact words about Ballotelli is that he is a fantastic player and a large proportion of city fans would have him back in the morning he is not like suarez and will if he puts his mind to it be an absolute bargain no matter what he costs

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20 Aug 2014 20:09:51
Tbf haven't seen much of lacazette and he could be a fantastic signing. But this season I would prefer a safer bet, his size, goal record and lack of playing in England make me worry if he could be our main striker if sturridge was injury. For all I know he could be but.
At the end of the day if signed would mario get at least 15-20 goals playing as a striker? IMO yes and I would bet on it everyday and with this season would just prefer the safer gamble

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@Boom Lacazette signed a new contract mate so I don't think he's an option. Committed himself to Ligue1.

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Lacazette might just be another player with pace and athleticism but no end product, the premier league has seen many of them. Which is probably why he will end up at newcastle.

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20 Aug 2014 18:25:18
Adam

This one for you mate, If we had 15 mill, I would love the club to put a bid for Lacazzate.

What do you think?

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That deoends Harry. Lacazette would be my first choice for the striker position. However, will Lyon accept, are his wages reasonable, are we even interested and does he want the move?

I know what you're getting at and yes I wpuld prefer him to Balotelli, but that's not tobsay Mario would be a bad buy because I think he'd be excellent for us.

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20 Aug 2014 19:16:49
Lyon would defo accept, As the player would love to play for us than Newcastle ( No disrespect, But the only club with concrete offer)
Laazzate would be on half the wages we would be offering Mario.
Lacazzate is younger and is no trouble maker and wouldn't consider himself bigger than the club.
He would link up well and better with Sturridge
He wouldn't disrupt the harmony with in the team.
He would defo be a long term solution.
He would defo listen to the manager and coaches.

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How can you say the club will definitely accept our offer?

They will look at the players we have spent £20m on and ask the same.

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20 Aug 2014 22:37:27
Great, Harry. This Lacazzate player sounds like a stand-up guy! The two of you been friends long, have you?

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20 Aug 2014 18:10:06
Personally I would be happy if we signed balo, especially of sturridge was out for a period as he can lead the line alone! The only things I'd worry about is his workrate, and his relationship with sturridge. I don't know why but they are kind of similar, and may not click like him and Suarez did.

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20 Aug 2014 18:23:10
His Link up with Sturridge would be a treasure to watch. Being the captain Gerrard would have an absolute awesome time on pitch.

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I'm not so sure, they might make the same runs and get in each other's way. They both will want to be the main striker and might conflict!

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Marion don't run he struts around with an attitude.

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Purely based on the fact that they are left and right footed respectively, their runs would differ. Balotelli tends to receive the ball on the left if he is not in a central striking position and would cut inside whereas Sturridge takes it to the by line on the right and is far more off the shoulder.
For large periods of the Soton game, Sturridge turned creator and there was nobody in the box to compliment his hold up play bar Sterling and a late run from Hendo/Coutinho. Sturridge is great at assisting and given our fluid interchangeable play across the front, there's no reason why they couldn't play together.

As a defender I would cry a little inside knowing I have to deal with Balotelli, Sturridge, Sterling, Coutinho, Lambert, Lallana and Markovic when fit

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20 Aug 2014 18:01:10
Just to put a different perspective on the Balotelli debate

Suppose there is a player x (no, this is not maths)
The player has scored 40 goals in the past four seasons in 80 appearances
Out of the four seasons first 2 1/2 seasons were spent more as a substitute

Now look at our need for strikers
We have only one top top striker who is quite injury prone (Lambert is not fit enough to lead the line for a long time)
Would you then take Player X to Liverpool for under 20 million £(only transfer fee )


Balotelli is a goal scorer. An excellent striker .
His disciplinary issues are a different things (btw imo they can be worked upon)
But people doubting his talent?Silly

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It's ridiculous Reet, they are all saying they categorically do not want him yet the first time he fires in a winner (who cares if it's against Man City or Burnley) everyone will be cheering and nobody will care that he's a bit of a tool.

The guy is a great player who comes with a point to prove. That point being that he does have what it takes to be a top level footballer. I think he'll suprise a lot of people and be a fan favourite within a month.

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20 Aug 2014 18:27:00
Have you ever seen Ballo playing full 90mts in a game?
He is always subbed half way, one or the other stupid reasons.

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I agree Reet, if they were questioning his temperament, or him having a playboy image, or even his lackadaisical moments during some games, you could understand their misgivings, but you shouldn't question his ability to put the ball in the net.I believe he has all the qualities to be up there as one of the best strikers in world football. Maybe Brendan might be able to get the best out of him. He was reported to have fights with most of the City team .I would pay to watch him take on Sakho, Sakho would batter him. Actually I would love him at Anfield.

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That's not what ballotelli did though is it? his record is worse than that.

This is one of the weirdest nonsense perspectives i've ever seen. It's all just made up speculation

His discipline issues can be worked on?speculative.

will he score 40 goals in 80 games, when his previous record suggests no.speculative

You just need to watch the player to see how bad he#d be for Liverpool.

I;d rather have edin dzeko as a super sub, or javier hernandez, they both score more goals of the bench.

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How is Lambert not fit enough? In the last 2 seasons, he's played near enough 6,000 league minutes (scoring 28 and assisting 18). That's 2,000 more league minutes than Balotelli played (who had 27 goals and 11 assists in near 4,000 minutes).

One good argue Balotelli's goals/assists per minute are better, but I don't see how people think Rickie isn't 'fit enough' to play regularly? Makes no sense at all. You don't go from playing 2, 800+ minutes one season to being unable to play regularly 3 months later.

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20 Aug 2014 21:02:53
I think I agree with you babatron. Regards to your uncle by the way!

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Dzeko as a super sub? and your questioning reets perspective?

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Simo as balotelli won't get much game time, he will be a substitute. Balotelli given they complained he got most his goals as a sub, I;d thought I'd use dzeko and hernandez to highlight there are other players who have scored more off the bench, who don't have attitude problems etc

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21 Aug 2014 06:16:30
Reet, Why don't you just go the rumor page and read Ed002 views on Balletolli transfer and How Arsenal backed out?. He is certainly not economical.

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20 Aug 2014 17:44:25
Look, it was my opinion that the worst striker we could possibly sign is a washed-up and big-wage earning Samuel Etoo. I was wrong.
Balotelli eclipses Etoo by a country mile! At least Etoo is free.
The only way signing either of these two bin-lids makes the remotest bit of sense is if they're brought in on loan for ONE SEASON ONLY. When Origi (or someone who is properly scouted) is brought in more permanently.
Etoo is a spent force and Ballotelli is an person! An person! This guy brought the well-mannered Roberto Mancini to fisticuffs for Gods sake. His team mates detested him!
Seriously, wait Brendan. Hold onto your cash. Run with Borini and Lambert as back-ups till January at least. Perhaps some of the 'big name strikers' won't be doing well at their clubs and you can nip in and steal one of 'em.
We're going to get lumbered with this half-wit Balotelli.
Please, someone convince me that I'm wrong. Eds your opinions, prrrleease!?! Surely you guys see this Balotelli for what he is - a complete tommytanker!

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{Ed001's Note - actually Mancini has had numerous fights with the players, he was a complete bell at Citeh, which was what led to his removal.}

20 Aug 2014 18:14:59
Totally agree with Ed1 on this, Mancini had issues with many players his man management was terrible at City

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I'm bored of defending him but if he signs, does anybody want to take a bet with me? Balotelli to score 30 goals in all competitions? £10 in the post if I'm wrong!

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I'm with you EMS, by far the best option available. He gets his head right and he has the potential to be the best number 9 in the world. He ticks all boxes.

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Ballotelli I stated weeks ago would be an exciting signing.purely because of his ability.
30 goals? i'm not so sure with sturridge beside him. Look at RVP, he.scored 30 goals 2 seasons ago and was complaininglast season players were.invading "his space". 20 goals would be realistic. Sturridge IMO will be.our 30 goal man. Soo overwhelmingly underated for such a top class forward.

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Ed001 is completely right and he probably acts the way he does because he hasn't had the chance to play for anything other than people like mancini.

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I'll take that bet EMS I think he'd be in the 15-20 bracket. His last season at City earned him a spectacular 2 if I'm not mistaken

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I'm In as well Adam. Sorry mate but that is like taking candy from a baby. Plus I'm Skint:)
Ballotelli is a 15-20 goal a season man. I would be happy with him though if Brendan wants him then why not.
He reminds me a bit of the Sturridge situation at Chelsea where Strurridge knew the move to Liverpool had to work or he would not be considered a world class striker.
I think Mario is in a similar situation. Clubs are beginning to wonder if he is worth all the hassle and so his next move has to be a long term one and one where he gets plenty of chances to score.
He would get that with us but is he worth the risk at 17 million I would say yes. Just.

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I will take that bet too Ems. Get to the bank and get plenty of tenners ready.

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Ill take the bet

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Allegri, mourinho, prandelli and mancini, each has shared their disappointment in him.

Mancini is a tit yes, but mario had several bust ups.You can't blame roberto for those.

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{Ed001's Note - I am with you, I love Balotelli as a character to read about, but would hate to see him anywhere near the club I support.}

I'll take that bet EMS

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I'll take that bet and I agree with Jonny and Nevada - Balotelli is a 15-20 goal a season striker, can't see him coming close to 30 myself.

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20 Aug 2014 17:37:36
ballotelli is the striker we need. just so the club stays in news :D
balotelli scoring against manu at old trafford, I can already see it . also balo trying the sturridge dance after scoring and failing miserably at it!

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20 Aug 2014 18:17:28
Balletolli scoring goals and making issues are 50:50

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Ballotelli scoring the winner at the theatre of tears whilst a plane flies above trailing a banner saying, why always us, would love it

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20 Aug 2014 17:27:23
Liverpool's bid for the player is understood to be structured as a season-long loan, with the option of making the move permanent in 12 months time.

Looks like Macca could once again be bang on as usual

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20 Aug 2014 17:45:07
Milan would like to have a permanent transfer. They would need money to rebuild themselves.
We should wait till the Eds confirm it here on the deal.

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We have not put in a bid for the player!? Confirmed by Milan plus plenty of Italian sites and Eds.

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20 Aug 2014 17:08:32
Hi Eds.

Why was Moreno so 'cheap'. I thought the original base price they were offering was more than the £12 million

Many thanks

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{Ed002's Note - We don't discuss money anymore.}

Ian Ayre "made them an offer they couldn't refuse" *wink wink*

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20 Aug 2014 17:46:19
Seems Ayre's previous travel's (4 times to Seviila ) is also included in the deal raising the total fee close to 20 mill. lols

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James Pearce said they accepted our first offer after the player made it clear he wanted the move.

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I'm just over the moon that we got our first choice left back, the lad is a real talent and lightening quick. Well done to everyone at the club especially Ayre.

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20 Aug 2014 17:02:08
Ken

Lallana like Adam? Common Mate
Lallana is better than that
Might as well be that harry and Ed002 are the same person

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Lallana like Adam? Are you having a laugh? Lallana is a very talented hard working lad. I'm really confident that he's going to be a star.

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21 Aug 2014 06:13:34
I am going to reveal a secret, I was acting on behalf of Ed002 past two weeks. [or not]

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21 Aug 2014 06:14:10
Ed002 is harry in disguise. now that's one hell of a smokescreen

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20 Aug 2014 16:18:18
I seem to remember Rob Jones having the nickname "Trigger" because he wasn't the smartest of people. But oh how he could play football

I see more similarities with Mario here than with Suarez. He's just a bit stupid rather than nasty.

Age is also a wonderful thing. It brings maturity. You never know maybe an older Mario can be managed.

For his talents I would say worth a try for a year anyway.

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20 Aug 2014 16:34:16
There are people as old as Silvio Berlusconi, who have never grown up.

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20 Aug 2014 16:39:58
The real AG

That was one of your best reply in a long long time. can't stop laughing.
But then He is about to sell Balletolli to us.

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Isn't he doing community service in an old peoples home boom? Lol
He's probably older than half of them in there, the judge probably thought he could do with hanging round women his own age for a change haha

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20 Aug 2014 16:10:00
Alright eds and members. New on here but been visiting a while. Just wanted to know eds thoughts on whether we will get a striker in before window closes and who they think would be best versatility wise.(not who they think we will actually buy) Personally I would like to see balotelli, I think we have a great fan base who would give the loveable rogue the praise he needs, and we have the manager and back room staff to maybe get him on the straight and narrow. The guy in my opinion is a beast and at his age I don't think we have seen the best from him, far from it. Thoughts?

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{Ed002's Note - Search for "Huntelaar".}

20 Aug 2014 16:16:57
Harry, you seem to have an insistence that Balotelli scores a goal then goes 4 games without.

His career stats say otherwise:

88 goals and 36 assists in 220 games, most of which were as a substitute for Inter Milan or Man City. Only 6 red cards in those 220 games which is comparatively bad but dispels the theory he is constantly getting sent off.

His Inter Milan Stats:

86 games, 28 goals and 16 assists. Considering he was 21 years old when he left, those are pretty admirable stats would you not say?

His City stats:

80 games, 30 goals and 8 assists. Again, not stats to look down your nose at especially considering he was either used as a sub or subbed off in nearly every game at the club.

His AC Milan stats:

54 games, 30 goals and 12 assists. For me, these are the stats to judge him on. He was finally given an extended run in the team and he responded by being directly involved in 42 goals in 54 appearances.

So by all means people, carry on discussing how bad his attitude affects his game, but if that is his statistical return when he isn't trying, then I'd love to see how much he could improve that in the right environment with a proper Man Manager in Rodgers.

I keep saying this, but you judge forwards on their direct goal return. Most of them are lazy, even Sturridge is to some extent. Kuyt, Borini, Suarez etc. They are exceptions to the rule.

If you want to refuse Balotelli because god forbid, he gets a red card every 35-40 games or because he has struggled to apply himself in the past, go for it. I'd rather have a more positive outlook on life, so do me a favour and take your whining to another post because it's not welcome on this one :)

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20 Aug 2014 16:29:37
You always comes with one of the post to beat.
Ballotelli is a decent player, Overrated mainly of the Sympathy he gains, His stupid quotes and some magical skills which comes out once in 2 months.

He is certainly not a hard-worker, Doesn't press high up in the pitch. never chase a ball and walk from one side to the other.

To score a goal you just need a second. And If you are skillful, You could make it most.

I have never seen him performing the way some here actually see him. He doesn't fit in the system we wants to play.

He is a risky signings both in terms of finances and player on the pitch. The chances of us signing Messi is quiet more than Balletolli falling out or players.

There is a reason Milan is desperate to push him out, to such an extent, they would welcome some loss ( Remember Milan Club is in serious mess ).

Nice Post mate. I love your Honesty.

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EMS is spot-on with this and the views on possible ADHD.

This guy has buckets of potential, can play the way we want from the role and will not cost much more than Bony (transfer fee wise).

His off the field antics are not driven by malice or greed.

I cannot see a negative with the transfer and we would be luck to get him in either of the deals that seem to be getting mentioned, if the interest is real.

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20 Aug 2014 16:43:27
Adam

I am bit surprised to see you drop from Lacazzate, Bony, Lavezzi, Cavani to Balletolli?
All the above except Ballo, would have bought something to the team.

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Once again with the stats EMS without a grasp for anything else.

in 09/10. 1 red 4 yellows in 14 games and 3 goals against bad opposition

10/11. 1 red 11 yellows
goals game against such teams as villa away villa homx3 salzburgx2, West Brom x2, poli. Not exactly vital must win games

11/12 he bangs them in this year, once again against rubbish opposition
blackburn, bolton, sunderlandx2, lisbon, spurs, chelsea, nowrich, napoli, newc, villareal, utdx2 in the 6-1 demolision, villa, blackburn, everton, birmingham
he got 2 red cards in crucial games vs arsenal and Liverpool. 15 minutes after coming off the bench, city drew 1-1, sent off vs arsenal, 1-0 down chasing the game with 5 minutes left.

We all know about the red card for inter story from mourinho.

Stats only tell part of a story, Mario rarely scores in big games when necessary, he has also gotten himself sent off in crucial games because of his ego and petulance.He bagged himself 25 yellows whilst at city as well.

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20 Aug 2014 17:03:10
Bob

Spot on Bob

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I see your point, still dnt agree to it EMS. but if you wanna whine on other ppls posts, you got to let people whine on urs mate. just sayin.

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Ok bobatron, so Balotelli scores goals against "rubbish opposition", how many times in recent years have you heard people say about us that we don't beat teams ("lower" opposition) that we should do? maybe he's the man for us.

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Bob

by your logic suarez must have been a bad player seeing as he never scored against top4 teams

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You could always play ballo against "rubbish opposition" and Sturridge against the best teams. It's a squad game after all.
I will support him if he comes but there are huge question marks over him.
Let's hope he's seen as suarez's replacement for all the good he did and not suarez's replacement in all the drama and hassle he brought to the club.

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Ems, I swear I read somewhere that balotellis only ever assist for city was for the aguerooooooooooo goal that one them the league?
I'm not questioning your post, I think he could be useful as he has obvious talent, just remember reading that.

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Balotelli scores against rubbish opposition? Perfect, that's all Suarez could do as well :)

Although I disagree with your point due to the fact he has scored in some massive games (vs England in the World Cup just gone for example) it wouldn't entirely matter even if younwere correct due to the fact he is only 24 years old and nowhere near his peak.

I think Balotelli is by far the best player within our financial reach who is available and for that reason he is the best option. You may well be right, he could flop. In which case I'll let you say "I told you so" but he could also finally flourish in which case I'll be straight on here to say it to you ;)

I think he would bring something we are currently severely lacking; a true striker who will look to run off the should of the last man and consistently attack the box.

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They said the same thing for suarez-he only scores against rubish opponents. there is no easy team to beat if you ever played football you would have known that. Ballo is a beast of a player. in euro 2012 he was unstoppable. he has a rocket of a shot, he can hold the ball, he is strong, decent in the air, can dribble, has pace. I think that he never really reached full potential. if rodgers is willing to take a risk we should give ballo chance

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@ East Midlands Scouser
That post of yours is about the stupidest thing I have ever read.
Stats are misleading and very often do not offer a true reflection of any given player or situation.
You conveniently ignore the fact that none of his former clubs lamented his departure - in fact, both Citeh and Milan couldn't and can't wait to get shot of the clown! Yet here's you spouting stats and telling us all that he's a great bleedin player?! Have you not got eyes in your head man?
If you have then read this -
March 2012: Fined 400k for going to a strip club night before a game.
January 2012: he went into a local high school to use their toilet - and then wanders around the school for 20minutes.
2011: had a mock sword fight in an indian restaurant while violating [a Man Citeh imposed] curfew.
Jan 2012: deliberately stamps on Scott Parkers head during a game and received a 4 match ban.
October 2011: "WHY ALWAYS ME" nonsense! (Nuff said!)
Oct 2011: burns down his bathroom after shooting fireworks out the window.
Same month: benched for show-boating and missing an open net in a pre-season friendly in Florida.
May 2011: can't figure out how to put a warm-up bib on during a game. His attempts to do it are picked-up by TV stations and go worldwide. Overnight he becomes a genius!
March 2011: gets Citeh eliminated from Europa League following a karate kick on a Kiev player (Real classy).
March 2011: 'pranks' youth players by throwing darts at them; fined £100,000.
Dec 2010: gets in a fist fight with Jerome Boateng during training.
2010: racks up £10,000 in parking tickets and has his Maserati impounded 27 times.
2010-2011: racks up £300,000. in team fines.
And my personal favourite -
March 2011: subbed during a game because he says - wait for it - he has an allergy ------ to grass!
WHY ALWAYS ME!
BAAAHAAA!

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You need to hop off Suarez's ride. He went missing in big games. It's one of the bigger criticims of him from those without red tinted specs.

Alan Huyton. how many of those teams did we lose or draw against last year?

We lost to chelsea twice, city once, arsenal once, southampton and Hull. Tell me which of those are the minnows we struggle against? Hull, the rest were good clubs. let's not bring a skewed perspective here.

This just all goes to prove my point though reet. We don't need another player who's not going to turn up against the bigger teams.


EMS please don't call the England game a massive game. Woy is an absolute tool and England are not a power in football.

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I'm not even going to go into how badly you've assessed his playing ability. People need to stop harping on about ballotellis potential and stop thinking rodgers is some saint at turning bad boys/layer into good players. using studge and coutinho as examples. Noticeably forgetting aspas, cissoko, moses, putting assaidi borini on loan. He really got the bad boy out of suarez too didn't he. These thoughts are so misguided.

Ballotelli, is lazy, drifts in and out of matches, doesn't cover anywhere near enough ground or press, doesn't track a player.

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Neither does Ibrahimovic, Bob. A few seconds here and there of magic is often enough to warrant a place in the team. I'd happily welcome Mario - flawed genius, but I'm happy with that as it comes with a discount.

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"Recent years" Bobatron, put the down and read my post properly.

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Bobatron, Re-read my post, I said recent seasons.

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As if you just compared mario to zlatan.MY WORD!

1 has never reached his full potential according to most, the other is probably in the top 5 players in the world as of this moment.

To say zlatan doesn't work is nonsense. Have you seen how much he drags player out o position, gets in their faces makes them work and bullys them?

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Alan I didn't realise last year wasn't a recent year.please specify what you meant?

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you are quite right, last year was recent however I said years, The clue is it has an 's' at the end, yearS

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Specify Bobatron? Recent yearS as I said, as in er recent yearS, notice the S.

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So what yearS are we counting, is 2010 recent. 2009?

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20 Aug 2014 16:12:09
To Harry and others complaining about Balotelli

I will try to defend his transfer step by step (provided one is to happen

First Balotelli the Player
The guy is immensely talented. Anyone who disagrees has not watched him. Pace Power and good finishing skills .He will provide a constant presence in the center upfront so someone like Sturridge can drag the Center backs out wide providing space for him. He has been playing in a very average Milan team and before that with two of the most defensive managers in the whole world.

Secondly His role in the team
I do not for a second believe that he cannot play in a two striker system . Sturridge can play the suarez role of last year a much freer role. Even if Rodgers goes with a single striker system Balotelli will provide excellent competition for Sturridge and will keep him on his toes

Lastly his attitude

Balotelli is not Suarez bad. He is like a troubled kid with an ego. His antics are childish but he won't be biting or racially abusing anyone. He needs proper counseling. Maybe a chat with a psychologist gerrard or rodgers. He needs to be given a chance
Even he will know it's his last opportunity at a big club

Signing Balotelli wouldn't be really bad

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Spot on Reet.

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20 Aug 2014 16:35:14
Reet

First Balotelli the Player

Wrong. Balletolli is a decent player, Who is always in the spotlight. He is overrated to some serious extent.

Secondly His role in the team
Wrong. Sturridge and Suarez worked in a tandem. None were Static. They use to interchange their positions.
Balletolli isn't such a player, who works for a team.

Lastly his attitude

Wrong. He is not a kid, A 24 year old Adult who would demand a high salary. And Certainly the Club is not a hospital. He

Signing Balotelli wouldn't be really bad

Might be. But certainly a risky one. Would you want to take the risk?

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Harry

Well we Will have to agree to disagree here
cos I think all of your points are wrong

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Given the price differential between Balotelli and Falcao/Cavani, I think taking a risk on Balotelli is worthwhile. His smooth flowing style reminds me of Rummenigge and Bergkamp, but there's clearly a large "attitude" risk at play here. Maybe Rodgers can correct it or steer Balotelli in the right direction. Even though Rodgers doesn't have much of a record with his loanees so far (Sahin, Moses, Cissokho) I'd simply still take the risk. LFC cannot afford to face the season with only Sturridge, Lambert and Borini as strikers.

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20 Aug 2014 20:34:22
He'll whine throughout the game. He'll not close down players. He'll fight with either fellow team mates or the manager himself. He'll get himself sent of when it matters. He'll want to take the penalty over Gerrard. He'll ditch practice sessions. He'll smoke/drink when not supposed. He'll be all over the media dragging his reputation, thereby our club's reputation.
This is not even a comprehensive list.
Given that the owner's wanted to get rid of Suarez because of him dragging the club down the drain, I would find it ridiculous if Balotelli signs.

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20 Aug 2014 16:02:42
Eds do you think Balo would fit in a 2 striker system up front with Sturridge?

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{Ed002's Note - Try the Tools and Formations page.}

20 Aug 2014 15:50:42
I am not surprised with Liverpool in for Balletolli. Its a strange day and Strange world.

Man UTD to offer Cleverly a new 5 year deal.

Enough Said. lolss

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{Ed002's Note - Pogba and Vidal last week, Falcao and Cavani yesterday, Balotelli and Eto'o today.}

20 Aug 2014 17:02:21
Don't forget Reus Ed002.

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20 Aug 2014 15:45:51
hey lfc fans.

jordan ibe. . . . . why why . and why. .

our squad is still small and he would be a great asset for fa cups games and carling cup games. why not aye.
atleast it would give the others a rest

i hope the management informed him that he has a future and its just to get even more games. because if he sits on their bench. its a crime and at that age I think players need to be encouraged because it can be seen as not good enough.
its a shame for him. because he openly said a few weeks ago he wants to make it to the first team this year.

so I just think its just stupid to let him go.
brendan is acting like he has way to many wingers/attackers


texeira. .i get that. . . . . . . ibe. I dont

what do u think guys? and no I don't support man u for the 100th time

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20 Aug 2014 16:02:06
You know we have markovic and lallana (maybe suso) and Borini who are all going to need time! Ibe on loan makes sense for me.

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20 Aug 2014 16:05:51
Becoz, Ibe needs regular playing time. A 20-25 league starts would make him the player we would love to see.

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I would of loved ibe to stay, we still ain't given him a chance in a real game to show what he can do and he has a really good relationship with sturridge n sterling. The only thing I hope the loan system does for ibe is make him a better finisher

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RED LOBSTER, suso, tex, ibe, smith, BR said when he got the job that he likes to give youth a chance, up to now BR has not brought one, yes not one player through from the academy, all the players in the first-team were already there from previous management or bought by BR. he needs to show a bit more faith.

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RED LOBSTER, BR had a chance to promote SMITH and IBE last season but went with his better knowledge and brought MOSES and CISSOKO in. enough said.

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20 Aug 2014 15:29:13
Macca spot on once again!

Lots of rumours about balotelli joining us this morning:

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20 Aug 2014 15:19:34
Eds do you mind if I ask two general questions on this page? (not sure where would be best).

If a club speaks to a player under contract to another club about a move, that is considered "tapping up" but they are free to talk to representatives of the player, is that correct? Seems a very silly rule.

What is the situation of the bigger german teams in regards to FFP? There has been a lot of discussion about how Bundesliga tickets are significantly cheaper than Prem ones, with some teams evens including use of public transport on match day with the ticket. I realise Bayern are unlikely to be affected by the revenue loss from charging lower fees, but is this the same for teams such as Dortmund, Leverkeusen, Schalke etc? Is TV revenue split between teams equally or is it a similar system what was in Spain until recently?

Cheers for the continued replies, great place to get information.

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{Ed002's Note - (1) That is how the business works. The player is contracted to another club - not his representatives. (2) FFP is not an issue for the German clubs in most cases. A better way to look at the tickets is them being over-priced in the EPL. The Bundesliga TV money is less but is distributed in a similar way to England - the winners/most shown will get perhaps double what the bottom sides get. Spain is radically different because if Real Madrid and Barcelona. At a meeting in Vigo a week or two back this was discussed from the current viewpoint, and the viewpoint of Real Madrid B and Barcelona B teams being boosted by players fom the main side if they were to breakaway from the league. The fear would be that they would come up from Segunda over a couple of years and again dominate the sponsorship, TV rights etc., whilst their main sides would have major European completion every week. The clubs in Spain are worried about this.}

20 Aug 2014 15:00:07
all this talk about johnson ed001, I was wondering, does BR rate him highly mate?

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{Ed001's Note - not highly enough to play him every week no.}

Thought so. I really don't see how he is able to play every game with how he is playing. honestly see much, much more from flannagan who, compared to johnson have lesser ability.

thanks ed001, appreciate it.

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20 Aug 2014 14:57:21
What an exciting hour. ! Only for that excitement to be crushed by an Italian. Typical of an Italian;)

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20 Aug 2014 14:51:10
The one group of people, Who would have hands on their heads with the arrival of Ballo are REFEREES.

All those Journals who lost their job Since Suarez Departure would welcome him back.

lols.

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Shortly followed by the players and fans when he fails to run for a 5 metre ball that isn't inch perfect to him or the opposition are down to 10 men and it's 0 - 0 only for Balotelli to get sent off reducing our risk of a win with only 10 men.

For the record; any player that comes and gives their all for the shirt deserves to be supported; those that do not shouldn't come.

hey maybe he would see if as a last chance and I'd gladly be proved wrong.

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20 Aug 2014 14:46:49
As much as I like balotelli as a footballer with his first touch and talent. I don't think it's a smart buy at all. I don't get how some of you think rodgers can change him. Yes he have excellent man manage skills but he's super mario afterall

if anyone can change him, it going to be mancini but even he failed. He manage him in inter and always put his trust in him when everyone is against him. And when man city bought him with mancini in charge I thought this is the moment, balo going to repay mancini for all the faith and trust but he's still the same old balotelli.

It's sad though because imo balo have all the natural talent to be a world class player unfournately not the attitude and mentally to do so. It's already been proven for the past few club he's in, he not going to settle down and it will be same here. Not to say how high his wages will be and all the controversy he going to make.

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20 Aug 2014 14:56:31
Ballo wouldn't work in 2 man Diamond system. He would work only with single striker up top.

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Mourinho had no effect on him either

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20 Aug 2014 14:22:34
If that crying, horrible, egotistical, sulking, lazy Italian get comes anywhere near our club I'll cry like a toddler.

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20 Aug 2014 14:45:06
Crying because you're passionate about the game is better than biting for it. Horrible is just unwarranted. Egotistical seems to me to be misunderstood; the world cup interview ESPN did with Balotelli showed a different side of him. Sulking; weren't many of our fans saying similar things about Sturridge? Lazy; I won't argue with you there, he can be a bit lazy at times, but all strikers can. Against Southamption, Sturridge went missing throughout portions of the game. So go ahead and cry like a toddler after belittling a player for doing so.

Balotelli is by no means the finished product, but if he comes to Liverpool he deserves our FULL support.

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Aquiliani?

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Dot patronise me about full support.

I invite you to scroll through years of posting on here to highlight any non-supportive posts about any of our players, including Sturridge.

My observations are that of a footballing view and this player displayed all them characteristics on a pitch.

I'm not interested what he's like as a person, I'm interested in how he performs, which, in my opinion, was below par on many occasions.

Our club is not a effing counselling one.

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20 Aug 2014 15:15:53
TJ Red

He fought with his own manager and players on the pitch and off the pitch. Which is this category?

He is not finished product?. He is 24, Same as Sturridge and an year younger to Bony and 5 years elder to Sterling.

Whats your point mate?

Now keep aside his antics, and think once what he would bring in to the game. He is simply lazy and that's the reason he is been shifted from one league to the other.

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20 Aug 2014 15:28:23
I'm not patronizing you on support. However, before a player even signs you call him "crying, egotistical, sulking, lazy Italian?" Stop being dramatic; if BR wants Balotelli, I'm happy with it.

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20 Aug 2014 15:54:09
Harry, I don't think Suarez's number one fanboy/stalker has the right to belittle anyones antics. Ramos is a nutjob and I'd take him at the club in a heartbeat.

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20 Aug 2014 16:08:05
TjRed

And I don't think all those who ripped Suarez for his antics would love Ballo at the club.
Suarez still gave everything he had for the 90 mts on pitch.

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20 Aug 2014 16:28:44
When did you ever rip Suarez? "Top bloke".

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20 Aug 2014 13:59:00
If the club feel that Mario is the man for Liverpool then let's get behind him and support. All of his previous antics are behind him hopefully. If he signs for us then we should do what we do best, support him the same as we all supported Suarez. He may have his faults, just as any spoilt player has but if we can just get him to focus on the job then we could have one he'll of a player. A few notes my way please Mario.

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20 Aug 2014 13:58:28
If we are looking for a striker, what happened to any interest in Kevin Volland? Seems like he has some similar traits to Suarez (minus biting, I suppose)

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20 Aug 2014 14:50:52
He's a very good looking young man as well. Every defender will just blush and curtesy him. I would pay a lot of money for him.

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While I quite like him as well, I don't think we've ever been linked with him, sadly. Good player though.

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20 Aug 2014 15:11:32
He would be a very good signing, but most probably expensive also.

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20 Aug 2014 13:56:57
Galliani: "We haven't received any offer from Liverpool for Balotelli, so there aren't any negotiations at the moment."

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20 Aug 2014 14:56:33
Thats the first impression for any transfer.
Macca is a Genius.

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20 Aug 2014 13:47:10
Just read the interview with Markovic on ssn website, seems like a very mature head on young shoulders. Really looking forward to seeing him in the team soon.

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20 Aug 2014 13:58:16
Yes, He looked very matured in the interview

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20 Aug 2014 14:54:00
Fancy sending him a love letter Harry?

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Whose to say Harry hasn't been singing sweet nothings into the lads ear already? lol

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20 Aug 2014 13:43:21
If true about Balotelli I think it could be a good deal, he has his strange ways but I reckon we could be a good fit for him, he could become a real LFC hero.
Maybe Rodgers would do similar as he has with Sturridge in that explain that he has been at big clubs and not done himself justice and that if he does it here he will be appreciated like nowhere else.

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20 Aug 2014 13:57:10
Alan

Mate, What has BR done with Sturridge's Personal behaviour?. Nothing. Sturridge was clean guy off the field. Has he ever refused to train?

There is a video in Youtube, Balletolli disasterous training, Check it out.

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I don't recall Sturridge fighting with team mates or giving half arsed efforts in training. No doubt both of them have ability but videos surface every few weeks of Balotelli not even doing training drills properly. He is much more of a risk than Sturridge was.

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Alan, the man is a tart.

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Davey, he wouldn't be my first choice but of the optoins now available he is worth considering I reckon mate.
I would hate us to go backwards (from last years 2nd place and performances) for sake of not getting a goalscorer in, I reckon we would be right up s**t creek if Sturridge got injured. As a purchase at £17 mill "ish" I think it is better than loan deals for £20 mill "ish" for either Cavani or Falcoa.

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Harry read my post, I said Sturridge hadn't done himself justice, as in performances or did I have to spell it out for you? I never mentioned anything about his behaviour!

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So Harry, No to Balotelli but Yes to the all conforming Tevez??? as per your post of yesterday.
Care to explain?

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Calmdown will you Calmdown!
I didn't say Sturridge was a risk in a behavioural way, it was in the sense of cajoling him into achieving what he is capable of and explaining what he could become as an LFC player.

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20 Aug 2014 15:56:52
Alan

Exactly mate, A manger could turn an under-performing player to a world beater.
BR couldn't run behind what he does outside. Sturridge was good on the pitch. Ballo is completely opposite.

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20 aug 2014 16:11:52
alan

if you go through some of my post on ballo, i have clearly mentioned. ". keep aside his antics and take a look what ballo would bring to the team. "

tevez is a much better hard working player than ballo would ever be.
moreover, tevez had issues only once at city, he is completely normal and settled at juventus.
balletolli is being shifted from one league to another.

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20 Aug 2014 13:41:41
Hilarous to read the line ". IF BR COULD WORK ON HIS. ". work on his what?.
3 top class manager, Jose, Manchini and 2 at AC Milan couldn't and some peeople want BR to focus on Balletolli's personal behaviour.
BR or any other manager could only 50%, The rest has to come from the player.

I just want to know, Are we seriously striggling to get in a decent striker?

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Harry's on one again

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Spot on Boom.

It's as if the club want the baggage now.

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20 Aug 2014 15:01:24
'3 top class managers, Jose Mancini and 2 af AC' that's 4.

Also, is that the same World Class Jose that sold Sturridge to us and then lost the title because they couodnt score enough goals?
The same Mancini who couldn't get City to progress in Europe?

World Class Managers or managers with reputation who have been lucky enough to Manage World Class clubs? I think the second. Guardiola can go in that category while i'm on one.

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20 Aug 2014 15:59:42
Anfield

Jose didn't sell Sturridge to us. That's the first fact.

Manchini has won't hings at inter and He is an Italian as Ballo.

Both are highly rated and vastly experienced and much above Brendon Rodgers.

If you are confident Ballotelli would change 360 degree. All the best wishes to you.

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Harry. If Ballotelli turned 360 degrees he would be back where he started.

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20 Aug 2014 13:32:11
Just no stay away balotelli. JUST NO

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Is right Ben.

I'm getting shivers down my spine thinking of it.

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20 Aug 2014 13:25:03
thought Rodgers had dismissed linking up with Balo.

He's got some explaining to do!

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20 Aug 2014 12:47:59
Comparing Luis Suarez to Mario Balotelli is quite frankly ridiculous.

Suarez was a footballing genius. However he was dirty (leaving his studs in), he was a cheat (diving, handballs), he was a psycho (biting), and he only cared about money (publically embarassed the club with his comments in the media on multiple occasions).

Balotelli is a very good and potentially world class striker. He is not dirty, he is not a cheat, he is not a psycho, and he does not publically belittle his club with stupid comments. He is however very immature and has a bad temper/attitude. Having grown up my whole life with a brother who suffers, I would be willing to bet any of you my soul that Balotelli has ADHD or a similar condition. He completely lacks focus, he over reacts to things, he doesn't follow instructions very well and he is incredibly immature for his age. I'm telling you, the man has ADHD. That does not make him a disgusting person like Suarez and I guarantee you a week with our psychiatrist and he'll get Balotelli under control be it with councilling or medication.

I find it quite frankly astonishing that anybody can see any correlation between the foul creature that is Suarez and the child that is Balotelli. It's like comparing a criminal to a 9 year old because they're both 'naughty'.

In terms of his ability, he is an excellent player. Powerful in both speed and strength, but with excllent technical ability to boot. His natural finishing is awesome and his positional awareness just seems to come naturally to him as well. Literally all he needs to do is apply himself and he could be the best striker in the world. Personally, I'd take him in a heart beat because I don't think, I know that with the right psychiatrist/diagnosis he will be a world class player. It is something he will grow out of anyway as it get's better with age. He is nowhere near as silly on the pitch as he used to be.

Off the pitch, the man is a hero amongst the people. Some of his antics (paying for peoples petrol, throwing wads of cash at people etc.) are just brilliant. He literally just needs to be loved and if any set of fans can give him that, it is us.

I hope the rumours are true, because this will be an excellent buy.

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20 Aug 2014 13:35:01
Balletolli had more Yellow and Red cards than any other player at his time in England.
Balletolli's stats are not brilliant. He scores in one and then misses the next 4 games. He is certainly not a hard worker.
With his reputation, he would have a torrid time in the league.

I trust BR and FSG and am with their signings, But I am honest in my view on players.

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Excellent post Adam.

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Top top post EMS. He is only 24, so the best years of his career are yet to come and we will reap the benefits of his talent as long as BR sorts his head out.
He can be as good as or even better than Falcao because he simply has the talent to be that good. The LFC crowd will love him soon enough.

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I agree but surely this must have been explored already. City and Milan are giant clubs. Something like this must have been looked at. Also he would need to be willing to accept such help.

I would love to see a focused Balotelli on the pitch as he was at the Euros because that Balotelli is a world beater.

I live in hope.

When we discuss Baoltelli, those in favour, those against, nobody doubts the lads football ability. But getting the player focused for every game will be no easy task and everyone at the club will need to help.

He is a player that wants to be loved. That's clear to me. If he works hard on the pitch, he would be loved at Liverpool. We are a club that will cheer a player racing to make a tackle as much as defence splitting pass. If he can realize that and works hard. . then Balotelli will be loved by everyone at Liverpool FC.

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Frankly I can't see what we would do with Balotelli. Are we going to play two up top again? I wouldn't think so as Balotelli simply isn't as flexible as either Suarez or Sturridge, nor is he as creative as either.

So he's a sub then? Okay, that would relegate Lambert to the stands most games as it's unlikely you'd have both Balotelli and Lambert in a match day 18 which would make me question why we bought Lambert.

I just don't see the need for another central striker. Another attacking threat who can play wide regularly or can play central, sure. Someone like Balotelli who is less versatile makes little sense to me.

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Whenever he played against us or England he used to frighten the hell out of me. If he stays focused he will do the same for our opposition( and I'm not talking about his haircut)

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20 Aug 2014 14:07:20
ADAM

Once Balletolli would be headlining all the major Newspapers, You would come here and earse this post. Trust me, He might not be at fault, But He wouldn't get any mercy from the League.

The funniest part of Balletolli is. He would make look a sitter the most difficult to score and the difficult one like a sitter.

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Brilliantly put

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20 Aug 2014 14:19:52
Balotelli is a badass

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Davey, we have "loved" bothe Torres and Suarez with both doing one on us.

We're not a sympathy club, or a father-figure club, we're a football club.

We don't need sulks like him.

Sick of all this romantic Liverpool FC crap about how we comfort players etc it knocks me sick.

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Totally disagree EMS.

Whatever his antics - they are just that, antics!

Why should the club risk buying another player who could create so much grief?

I remember watching Mario when he was at City (yes that was a couple of seasons ago, he was a couple of years younger) but he went missing in most of the games if he turned up at all, and had an attitude problem - if you believe the papers.

He then went to Milan, who by the way, play in a far inferior league, and didn't really do anything to light the league up!

Yes the guy enjoys helping people out off the pitch, but we aren't in the market for a good samariten, we need a quality forward who doesn't come with baggage which could disrupt!

As for the ADHD, let's not play doctor - he could just be a little bugger!

Just my thoughts, you are entitled to yours, as is everyone, but I see no good coming from this transfer. If it happens that is.

Cheers,

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All I ask is that you all give him a chance. Not many other teams employ a psychiatric doctor to work with the team.

RDL I disagree. I think you could easily fit Balotelli into the side. He is a player who will play through the centre. He will either come short to hold up the ball or run off the shoulder of the last man. That is his game.

Sturridge on the other hand drifts all over the pitch looking to get on the ball as much as possible which is why we constantly end up with nobody in the middle to explpit the space he creates. Balotelli has the ability to punish teams when Sturridge drags one of their cebtre backs out wide. I think it would work very well. Sturridge and Sterling are free spirits who will go where the ball goes. Balotelli will provide that consistently central option that you need to score goals.

Harry, Balotelli was only as inconsistent as the Milan side he played in. The guy has serious talent that just needs to be unlocked. Just wait give him 12 months to let his goals do the talking.

Ecen if he doesn't change his ways he's still a 15 goal a season striker. It'd just be frustrating because in my opinion he could double that in a few years. I trust Rodgers to get his head straight and I would hope Balotelli realisea this is his last chance.

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I wouldn't try either if I had a stadium full of people racially abusing me. In fact, I'd walk off the pitch.

I hope he signs, because he'll prove a lot of people wrong.

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Your right about Suarez and there is no defending the player and therefore as you rightly state we shouldn't compare their behavior / antics etc.

So let's remove that and look at the players - both different players but one has a desire to win more than most players and wants to be called the best by everyone else.

The other one doesn't feel he needs to prove to others as he already knows he is one of the world's best players.

I forget the game but last season Suarez in the box slips / gets fouled, off balance still trying to get a shot away and does and scores.

Balotelli would still be ranting at the referee now about how unjust the original tackle was.

Agent's will support the people who earn the most money; coaches want to improve players but prefer players who are happy to listen and learn - not sure Balotelli is that type of player (from past performance).

Although if he does sign it's going to be interesting here after every match - at least Allen and Lucas will not be getting any stick week in week out.

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I'm a romantic Davey. I wouldn't let it worry you.

Simply making the point that if the lad works hard every game, he will be success.

If he doesn't he will be a failure.

Talent is unquestionable.

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20 Aug 2014 12:40:17
If the Balotelli rumors are true, I will be absolutely estatic, especially if its a loan with an opportunity to buy.

Yes, he can be a dramatic one, but as they say, he's the best striker available. Young, perhaps still with it all to prove though he's played integral parts in some classic football matches over the last few years.

Before Liverpool played City a few weeks back I posted something recommending him and was, for lack of a better phrase, shot down. Then, I saw him in Charlotte, and he basically jogged around the pitch and dribbled himself in to trouble -- but his team was already down 0-2 by the time he came on, and it was a friendly, so I kind of understood where he was coming from. Pretty much considered our interest dead when Rodgers said something about it, but.

Don't know the source and haven't seen it confirmed, but here's hoping!

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LOL

If this moves happen I will not know what to think!
It would be the first LFC purchase under Rodgers that I would being honest say "what are we thinking, don't do it."
However, I guess it will be amusing if nothing else. He has talent when he can be bothered but I still would much rather bony. just being honest and not trying to slate anyone

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20 Aug 2014 13:28:34
He has nothing to prove in England and he left to Milan on his wish.

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He's a Rodgers type player, he can play wide or upfront and Rodgers loves the diamond formation.

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{Ed002's Note - If you want to discuss that stuff please use the Teams & Formations page.}

It has to be a loan first imo, if rodgers can control him he could be great value but he can be a loose cannon. it all depends on whether mario wants to get serious about his football because if he does not we can't afford to waste 17 million so if milan want a loan to buy then that would suit us. he has the potential to be a top striker.

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20 Aug 2014 12:32:01
Mario Balotelli has a big heart and he is fun loving. He seems to be a genuinely good guy.

As a footballer he can be sublime.

If he gets to the right club and heas the support that he needs then he can definitely become world class.

It si worth a go as Brendan may jsut have the required tools to bring out the best in Mario.

It might all end in tears but on the other hand if could be brilliant.

So long as the deal is financially sound then I say go for it and make us all smile.

Just imagin Mario scoring winners against Man Utd, Chelski and Man Citeh!

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20 Aug 2014 13:32:16
You are clutching the straws mate. The whole country and the league would be on him, He wouldn't get any symapthy from the FA, Media or other managers. Every small incident would be targetted.
He would replace Suarez in all the off field issues.
Not trashing him, But these are his previous past.

Is he a quality player. Yes, But then there are many.

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20 Aug 2014 12:20:40
Where are the balotelli reports coming from? I googled it and the only site that I saw reporting it was the daily star and I'm definatly not pinning my hopes on their word.

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20 Aug 2014 13:17:16
Go to Liverpool rumours now for all articles related to lfc. You will find a lot of reports there.

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20 Aug 2014 15:21:37
News now, clearly got edited.

(There should be a phrase for the eds 'you've been edited') lol

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{Ed001's Note - it wasn't edited, you sent it like that. You might want to try reading back before sending in future.}

20 Aug 2014 12:20:10
Ballotelli - out of the frying pan and into the fire.

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20 Aug 2014 12:16:02
If these Mario Ballotelli rumours are correct then it's the best bit of striker business we could do and I am very happy with it . Reason being he is still young turned 24 early this month. He is a full international . He has won the premier league (only Italian to date who has done this) the fee that's being talked about 17.5 or even 20 million is cheap considering the fees being banded about for other strikers. It makes a lot of sense he has champions league experience also and if he clicks at the club playing in a style I believe already suits him better then we will have a very good striker arriving . I know he has had some off and on field antics over the years however he was young and maybe he is now beginning to mature and Rodgers and Steve peters can work with him and improve the player . Mario at his best would provide and excellent signing to compliment perfectly what we already have. This would be the perfect end to a great window . Thanks guys

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20 Aug 2014 12:13:03
If we do get balotelli, there's no doubting his ability, the question is will he be able to control him?

Like sturridge, it'll be his last chance at a big club when he arrives. I remember gary neville highlighting how, when playing up front with aguero, he was unable to register the fact that aguero was the top man in the team. The same applies for our team, as sturridge is top man, and could suffer severly due to mario's idiocy.

Balotelli gives off the impression that what he really wants is for a manager to take him under their wing and really care about him, which brendan rodgers provides probably better than any other manager, the effort he puts in to player improvement is phenomenal.

But is it merely an excuse from balotelli? Would he really clean up his act and become the world class footballer we know he can be?
Rodgers has done it with coutinho, sturridge, suarez, henderson, even gerrard, reviving their
Careers and improving them immensely as players.

But would balotelli be a bridge too far? Does he really crave a manager like brendan rodgers, or is he just a loon? If it works out, he could be deadly for us.

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20 Aug 2014 13:22:07
This is why a loan move with an option to buy would make most sense all round (including financially).

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20 Aug 2014 11:51:12
it will be balotelli Macca was right, no loan we will buy him, on italian tv deal very close.
i am so happy because I believe br will get the best out of him.
balo, strurridge, sterling up top.
Malta

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20 Aug 2014 11:55:48
BR would be soon approached by top class Hospitals for Physiciatric advices soon. lols

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Well if we can buy Balotelli for less than £20m and sell Borini for £14 then i'd say that is a good piece of business.

Falcao and Cavani were never going to happen.

Red Rum

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I hope its true< people need to realise how young he was when he was at man city and even when going to ac Milan, if he was to come to us we would get best out of him and vise versa he would get his best out of this club, Liverpool fc will be the family he has never had JUST couldn't SEE HIM WANTING TO GO MADRID OR BARCELONA WHEN HE GETS BACK TO HIS BEST EITHER so a long term soultion maybee let's seee

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Seems Brendan loves a problem child.
Let's hope he's going to be in the papers for all the right reasons for us and has grown up over the last year or so.

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20 Aug 2014 11:48:57
Seems Macca was right again.

Liverpool close to complete a loan deal for Ballotelli with an option to buy next summer.

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Reports say it is a permanent deal for 17 million GBP. Would be happy with that. Just need BR to sort Mario's head out, and we have a top notch player on our hands.

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20 Aug 2014 14:54:42
If Macca said its a loan then it'll be a loan. This guy usually doesn't get stuff wrong!

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20 Aug 2014 11:29:39
Apperently we r in talks for balotelli. 17m deal, persanol terms being discussed.
Thanks

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20 Aug 2014 11:33:27
Reports flying in that we have bid 17.5m for Balotelli, and discussing personal terms.

Why only him?

Can't believe we've not even sniffed at Jackson Martinez, or Bony for that matter.

He would obviously be better than having no one but how long before we see the crazy side? And the obligatory pic of him and Sakho with same haircuts.

Any truth in this eds?

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Disruption, sulking and turmoil for £17m + wages.

This makes zero sense to me. He has had an Italian manager over here that could do nothing with him. He loves and supports Milan (so he said before moving) yet he sulks cause he doesn't want to be there.

IF he signs my prediction is he will have 3-4 amazing games, single handed win us a huge game like against Chelsea or City. Then that's it, rest of season disinterested, work shy, disruption and sulking.

Massive liability. After Suarez I'm shocked FSG would want another potential bomb to tarnish LFC.

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Jackson Martinez has a ridiculously high release clause or something of that sort, while Bony simply cannot compete with Balotelli in terms of talent and potential. Good signing imo.

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Crazy side I can live with.

He needs to work hard every game. If BR can get him to do that he will be an absolute talent. I have posted before not wanting him but if he signs I will get right behind him and hope BR gets him focused and working hard during matches.

Outside matches, let's just enjoy. As long as he doesn't throw darts at youth team players.

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20 Aug 2014 10:48:40
Please excuse my Lavezzi knowledge, I haven't watched him extensively but looking at the figures he doesn't appear to have been particularly prolific as a goal scorer. Anyone a fan of his?

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I like lavezzi . I think he would fit in miles more than Falcao or Cavani . but his age puts me off hopefully we can get a bargain

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Hes very similar to suarez in his movement and dribbling but an awful finisher. that's why his goal scoring record isn't prolific.

Maybe rodgers can help him like he helped suarez but suarez scored 49 goals for ajax in a season before his switch so his finishing wasnt so bad

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20 Aug 2014 11:39:31
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I think he would fit in miles more than Falcao or Cavani

Seriously?.

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Lavezzi is more of a supporting striker. He was responsible for a shed load of goals that Cavani scored for Napoli. He can also play on either side of a front 3, preferably on the left. Goals scoring has never been his main attribute, creating chances and space for his strike partner has.

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Lavezzi is not a striker. Think Coutinho but with more pace/power and less vision. You cannot judge a creative wide forward on his goal return which is actually good for a player of his type. Lavezzi is a very good player and if we can get him for £20m it would be a bargain. People need to stop banging on about age. Sure, build the team around youngsters. But there is nothing wrong with having a top player with vast experience in the side. I can't remember the exact stats but it's something like 23 goals and 14 assists in his last two seasons. He is a player who can start attacks or link up play though so even that doesn't tell you the whole story. You don't get games at PSG and Napoli if you're a bad player.

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20 Aug 2014 10:09:08
Ed001 I guess

Adding to the uninformed discussion of Glen Johnson's "contract" provisions.

Many years ago when this last came up, in a different context, I thought the view was that his contract said that he had to be picked at RB for league games? if selected? (as he wanted to secure his England place). I think it was discussed at that time because people noticed he was always at RB in the league, but the then manager(s) often moved him around in cup games?

Any truth in that?

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{Ed001's Note - he wanted guaranteed football at right back for his England place, correct. He has played left back on request, because he agreed to do so. One of the reasons why I struggle to rate Rafa as highly as others, is because of his happiness to pander to players in their contracts and in general. Gerrard, for instance, refused to play on the right and Rafa just created a new role for him behind Torres.}

Agreed Eds. so many people were begging for Rafa back but glad the board didn't go for him.

He did well for us and I do like him and rate him, but I do not think he knew how to take it too another level and would try by buying more players without changing the way we play

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Gareth, how do you mean another level? champions of europe level??

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Ed001, what would be the outcome should BR decide not to play Johnson when he's fit?

Do you think he'll leave this window or anytime soon, as I'd much rather have Flanno and Moreno as our 2 full backs.

Cheers

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{Ed001's Note - I don't know what the penalty clauses are sorry. If we could, he would have been gone already.}

20 Aug 2014 10:32:45
If there is some clause in Johnson's contract stating he has to play when fit, I for one would be happy to chip in to a fund to cover the legal damage if BR broke that particular clause. Would love to see Manquillo play against City.
On the striker issue. If it was a year long loan we were looking at, why go Falcao? He obviously wants Madrid and would just be biding his time with us. I'd go Balotelli. He'd feel he had something to prove and if he used what remaining brain cells he has left and behaved, could be a good thing?

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20 Aug 2014 10:40:20
Keeping aside Balletolli's attitude and off field antics, He is simply lazy, that's the most important point, We don't want a player who walks from one end to the other end of the pitch and doing nothing. We do have couple of players in the team already.
We need hard working players, Who is always on the move, links up well, press hard, willing to take some responsibilty.

I would personally go in and get Tevez in a 1-2 year deal, If Juventus lands falcao.

Tevez is proven with top clubs in England.

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{Ed002's Note - Slightest hint of a player arriving seems to be the time to trash him. Absolutely hopeless.}

20 Aug 2014 10:42:01
There is a heaven and Earth difference in quality between Falcao and Balletolli.

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20 Aug 2014 11:14:51
There is also a massive difference in age.
It seems that if people like a player that has been a bit of a rogue then the posters believe that Rodgers can do a Coutinho or a Sturridge and turn them around.
If however they don't like the player, like Balotelli, then the posters just berate them.
From what I have seen I trust Rodgers to make his choices and manage the signings well. On his day Balotelli is unplayable, similar to Sturridge, and in a similar way to Sturridge before he came here Balotelli simply doesn't seem to have his 'on day' all too often.
Brendan managed to help Sturridge with that and we now have the most prolific englishman up top. Give Balotelli a chance and perhaps we could have a matching Italian. No one minds Sturridge having swagger, Balotelli is similar.

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20 Aug 2014 11:21:26
I want Balotelli. The boy makes me smile with his T-shirts and hair styles and antics.

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Harry, in terms of quality, there certainly is not too much of difference between Falcao and Balotelli. Falcao is at the peak of his career and is a real work horse while Balo is just lazy and indifferent. If BR can get him to change his ways, we would definitely have another 20+ goals a season striker on our hands. Balotelli in terms of talent is right up there with the very best. Its his attitude that's held him back till now.

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20 Aug 2014 11:49:48
Ed002. I am sorry mate, I wasn't trashing him. We already had enoughtwith Suarez and Balletolli had a disaster expereince in the league. And we aren't getting him for free.
It would be a high risk in moving for him.

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20 Aug 2014 11:52:42
I love Ballotelli! He was a good player for Man City, and it was only his antics that let him down. But he's older now, and needs a great man manager to guide him and remind him that he has a lot to lose and much potential. Brendan brought Sterling back down to earth when he signed his first contract and got a bit complacent. He doesn't set the world alight like Falcao, but he's a lot younger and signing him permanently would make much more financial sense than loaning Falcao for a year (which would probably never happen anyway). More to the point Mario has proved himself in the EPL, and has much needed CL experience, which we seem to have little of in our squad. I'd be really happy if this happened.

Cheers guys

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You want tevez because ballotelli has an antics history?

The same Tevez that took a 3month sabbatical toa rgentina on his own accord.
Refused to warm up in a champions league match to go on as a sub
The same tevez that drove whuile dq'ed got 250 hours community service, and a fine
The same player that when he gets bored of a club, puts up a for sale sign on his house and around his neck an invites all offers?

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Don't think you need to apologise - Balotelli is lazy - always has been. He is also stroppy and immature like a spoiled child and appears to believe the whole world is against him. IF Liverpool could somehow improve his attitude and workrate we would have a great addition to the team. Probably EXACTLY what Mourinho thought at Inter, Mancini at City and AC Milan when they bought him. Sold every time after 1/2 seasons - FACT.

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Oh my word. Not much difference between Balotelli and Falcao?

I actually don't know what to add to this?I'm speechless

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20 Aug 2014 14:53:28
Ed002, I think when Harry says "we already had enough with Suarez", he means, he can't afford to obsess over another player or it will result in 2 more years of therapy

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20 Aug 2014 10:14:27
All this mention of big names like Cavani, Falcao etc but am I the only one that one doesn't see them fitting in how we play and 2 think Pedro from Barcelona would suit us 1000 times better. I remember one the eds mentioning Pedro 4-5 weeks ago but heard nothing since. To me Pedro is still a big name but has everything we need and can fit in with DS a lot better. I could see him moving realistically to us too, and he wouldn't cost near 50 million. With falling down the Barca pecking order to could well be interested in moving? Having read through previous post you said there has been no interest which surprises me.

Anyway whatever happens in BR we trust!

I would also like to thank the ED's for the time they put into this page.

JD

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{Ed002's Note - Thanks.}

20 Aug 2014 10:45:17
Eds have been fantastic. This site is an Encylopedia on players, clubs and everything related to footie.

You just need search engine to get any kinda info on almost all the players out there.

One of my gooner mate enquired about Rabiot, I got it from here.

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Get you point JD but if there was interest in the players you mentioned and the manger wants them then he's best positioned to change our style of play to suit them. We played 2 upfront most of last year and did very well so it makes sense that we have the players to be able to play both 1 or 2 strikers upfront.

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20 Aug 2014 10:11:18
LFC to make a bid to buy Balotelli, 20m I believe

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They say £17m. Not saying it' going to happen but Mario would definitely make our team stronger. He won't de-throne Sturridge yet at the same time would provide massive competition and make our striking options look very healthy in the PL but especially CL. Those who want Bony, I think Balotelli is a similar player to Bony personally. Has speed but his game is more focused on strength, power and skill with the ball.

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I would rather take bony. Balotelli looks like he will never fulfill his potential due to his mentality and off field antics

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It would be a terrible purchase imo.
I would rather keep the team as it is than consider him or Falcao on the wages he would demand. Bony would be a much better move I think

Eds where is Pedro now? And I guess we never did show interest in him but for me would be a great addition

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20 Aug 2014 09:55:51
If I could I would suggest BR to try and get Tevez. Similar sort of player as suarez, would be cheaper than lavezzi (that is irrelevant) and has proven premier league pedigree.

Now I know he's hard to handle and might not want to come back to england but definitely worth a try

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20 Aug 2014 10:10:36
He is a very hard working player, And a proven player in PL. Would be a decent shout.

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20 Aug 2014 10:30:40
Would love him as a player, but I question the mentailty of anyone who could go on strike for 2-3 months.

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20 Aug 2014 10:32:57
I think he'd be a great option, I just get the impression that he's left the premier league long behind him after all his issues, home sickness etc

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20 Aug 2014 09:44:29
Rumour has is that Eduardo Vargas to QPR on season long loan with option to buy for £8.5m. why didn't we go in for him?

At that price, he would be a bargain. I know there may some third party issues and such but how have QPR nearly managed to land him?

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{Ed002's Note - Surely not another player Liverpool has missed out on?}

20 Aug 2014 10:11:24
We will look at him next season, If QPR gets relegated.

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20 Aug 2014 09:08:10
People claim we need a striker so I've had an idea. Why not recall Origi from his loan? It would be heaped than buying another striker and also it would be cheaper than his transfer would be if we had signed him and not loaned him back. Or have Lille put something in his contract saying that we'd have to pay a certain amount of money to recall him. Thoughts? If you don't agree give me a better idea!

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{Ed002's Note - Origi cannot be "recalled".}

20 Aug 2014 09:27:18
19 year old Kid? Are we short of such in our academy? He is an year elder than Ibe who went for a loan.

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This isn't FIFA mate.

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20 Aug 2014 05:32:14
any news on lucas leiva transfer. How long has he got left o his contract is it like glen johnston where he his going when his contract runs out because of such high wages?

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Lucas will not be going mate. We would have no cover for Gerrard. Johnson is in the last year of his contract and will leave on a free next summer. If it was up to me, he would be gone by now. Big wages which simply do not add up in terms of performance on the pitch and laid back attitude.

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20 Aug 2014 08:37:37
The Irony is Johnson is not ready to sit on the bench and relaax.

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Johnson does all his relaxing on the pitch.

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20 Aug 2014 11:04:18
Johnson is one of the few players my wife knows in the Liverpool team because i'm always moaning at him for poor passing, touch and general decision making but I can't fault the lad for effort. Its totally unfair to say he doesn't try for the reds.

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20 Aug 2014 11:18:57
"its totally unfair to say he doesn't try for the reds".

That statement couldn't possibly be any more the opposite of the truth!!

That is why we have so many fans, me included, who would like Johnson moved on. A player with more talent in his pinky that many have in their whole bodies, but a complete lack of concentration, application and hard graft.

What a waste of a talent.

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20 Aug 2014 04:11:49
One for Ed001 I think,

There's lots of talk about a clause in Glen Johnson's contract about him having to play when he's fit.

Is this true? If not, what is the truth? What details can you give us about the clause if it exists?

Ed002 has previously said that such a clause would be unenforceable, what would the sanction be for Liverpool if they just said to him "You aren't good enough any more, you're not playing" Especially seeing as it is the last year of his contract, can anything actually be done?

Cheers in advance Ed001.

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{Ed001's Note - no idea, sorry. As for not being enforcable, if the club sign a contract agreeing to it, then they would face an extremely expensive legal battle to dispute it.}

It's a load of rubbish.

If such a clause did exist, don't you think John Terry, Peter Cech, Rooney, Gerrard, Özil (name whichever top class player you want), would have the same clause?
Only Glen Johnson has this clause?

Sorry, it's hogwash. If some fool did give him a contract with a clause like that in it, the club would move heaven and earth to buy him out of that contract.

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{Ed001's Note - if that is your reasoning, then you clearly are not using your brain. It is only used to attract a player that would otherwise go elsewhere, so why on earth would anyone give that to a one club man like Gerrard or Terry? It was used because Rafa was desperate, and it wasn't the only time he offered one. Just because you don't believe it, it just shows how little you know.}

20 Aug 2014 07:42:07
A player could insert anything inside a contract.

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20 Aug 2014 07:43:07
Not to mention that there is every chance a player that really believed in themselves and their ability enough wouldn't even ask for it because it wouldn't occur to the likes of Ozil in Arsenal that they would be dropped

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Harry the voice of reason again! And this was answered earlier in the week, basically wait and see when Moreno will come into the team everyone seems to be in agreement Manquillo has impressed enough to keep his place.

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20 Aug 2014 08:50:35
Sean

I would love us start Moreno and Monquillo against City. City's full backs aren't world beaters, Korolov and Zalbelata could be taken. Moreno would do a brilliant job.

I don't see it happening, Johnson would be starting and would end all the speculations reagrding his contracts clauses.

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''City's full backs aren't world beaters, Korolov and Zalbelata could be taken''

Zabaletta has probably been one of the single most consistent right back for about 2 years. He's easily in the top 5 in the world.

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20 Aug 2014 10:14:42
Bobarton

We took both Zabaleta and Korolov last time with ease at Ethihad. I do remember.

Korolov is a poor defender who is decent in going forward.

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I heard about this clause after he signed.

I heard he had to play when fit at RB so it didn't affect his place in the England squad.

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20 Aug 2014 10:17:05
Harry, Zabaleta is probably the best right back in the league right now so you are talking rubbish about him not being a world beater. I would take him over anyone else. I agree that Kolarov isn't fantastic but still a decent player. If they were so bad they wouldn't have won the league last season and be part of the best defence.

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20 Aug 2014 10:30:16
Have to agree with bobatron but if these lads r our fullback I think they can hold there own against them.

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Is there a way round it? Does he have to start or just play? Could he be a sub and brought on last 2 minutes for example?

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{Ed001's Note - start.}

I was on a train during the 3-2 match so can't comment, I'm going off having watched the player in other games across the season over 2/3 years. He is usually up there with toure for his ability and consistency.

Kolorov I don't think is brilliant, but I think he's capable. It will depend on who pellegrini uses. I think using navas could pen us back down the left wing, as we will have to be wary of his pace, milner I think we'd be happy pushing on etc. It'll all come down to who's picked to partner the backs on the wing. I don't think you can say that cus we had an easier time of it last time, this time will be the exact same.

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Lavers
So why has he played left back? i'm assuming no one has seen his contract in the public domain. He would be ecstatic at that! Pure guess work in my opinion.

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{Ed001's Note - because he can agree to play elsewhere, it is not guesswork.}

So theoretically we could sub him off in the first minute and still be compliant with the terms of his contract? haha

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Harry, have to agree with Bobatron on Zabaleta. I also think Kolarov is very good, more so from an attacking sense obviously.

For me Monday night won't prove anything yet as I wouldn't be surprised to see Johnson start LB and to give Moreno a little more time and an easier debut rather than straight in sink or swim against City.

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Ok here's a thought then.

What would people rather do, be forced to play Johnson for the remained of his contract?

Or offer to buy him out of his contract?

Would that even be an option Ed001?

If I was Manquillo/Moreno/Flannagan I would be freaking out if I found out that one of my rivals had such a clause in their contract.

Cheers

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{Ed001's Note - it is an option, not sure it will happen, I expect the club to continue trying to get rid and he only has a year left either way. So the youngsters only have to wait until next summer for the straight fight for a place.}

Fair point Ed001.

For me i'm not as worried about the opportunities for the youngsters as I am that Johnson is not good enough to be in the team, LB or RB.

For me there are 4 fullbacks at the club (Moreno, Flanagan, Manquillo and Enrique) who should be starting ahead of him on current form at this moment.

If being able to play one of them every week instead of Johnson, is the difference between 5th and 4th, then it's worth the money to ditch him and promote a youngster to cover.

Or maybe offer to pay the difference in his wage if he goes somewhere else now.

Sad state of affairs when it makes more financial sense to pay a player NOT to play for the club.

Just my opinion anyway. Cheers all.

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Look forward to you proving me wrong Ed001 with your superior knowledge

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{Ed001's Note - you really have shown you have none many a time, so I wouldn't go there if I was you.}

It's just a bit unnecessary to insult people who don't believe in the existence of a something, unless you can demonstrate it exists.

I don't need to know about it, I'm not really interested in it, but resort to insults during a debate does nothing for your reputation or credibility.

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{Ed001's Note - if you are not interested then don't comment. I really couldn't give a monkey's about what you believe. You are just being an arse for the sake of it clearly, as you have no interest in it. So give it a rest, stop wasting my time and just skip the thread. This is why people don't bother giving out info, too many know nothings disputing anything said because it doesn't suit their thinking. I won't waste my time again. It is just not worth it. You clearly are wasting everyone's time by being on a rumour website if you want proof.}

20 Aug 2014 03:57:14
Hi eds and reds, I really do think we need a striker before the window closes, because if Sturridge is injured then we do not have a lot options from the bench that are very good. So BR get us a striker please and petr Czech . Ed001 what are your thoughts?

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{Ed001's Note - I am not convinced it is all that urgent.}

People keep saying things like this, but why do you think we bought Lambert? To sit in the stands? He's really a bit better than being given credit for. Won 2 golden boots, tied with Gerrard last season in scoring, had more assists than anyone else bar two of our players. He's really a pretty decent backup in his own right and it's not like only the striker is allowed to score.

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20 Aug 2014 07:44:44
RDL

I am sorry mate, You are not going to win the league nor a 4th place finish with just 2 strikers, One being 32 year old.
Lambert couldn't lead the line twice a week.

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When did borini leave?

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What Bobatron said. Borini is still our player and we have others who can play central as well. Look at Sterling's goal last game and where was he playing at the time? Center and furthest forward having rotated with Sturridge. Our front line is designed to be very flexible and there is little reason why others aren't capable of playing there outside of even our current 3 strikers.

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19 Aug 2014 20:48:40
Ed1 if your about how good do you think sturridge and sterling can be in years to come? Do they have potential to be two of the worlds best in their postitions? Also do you think ibe has poetential to be better than sterling still

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{Ed001's Note - I think Sturridge already is one of the best, there are very few who you could say are better. Sterling has improved so much, and clearly listens to his coaches, so he will defo be up there among the best in time. As for Ibe, he does have more potential but he is not getting enough first team football to reach it at the moment.}

20 Aug 2014 00:11:31
In peoples honest opinion do you think, considering we have spent 100 million have we bought well? My only query personally is lallana, as although I think he's a top player, he's not what we needed. Apart from that I have to objections. Not that I have an objection against lallana, like I said I think he's quality. However if we bought a keeper and a striker, I think it would be better than an attacker midfielder, then maybe added an out and out holding midfielder.

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I think we have bought well in terms of quality and (once we get another striker) each position has plenty of coverage and depth. I wish we were harder bargainers though as it seems we have paid top dollar for the likes of Llalana and Markovic but hopefully they will become our biggest assets on the pitch and prove me wrong.

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Lallana was a waste if you ask me.
He's like Charlie Adam, skilful but lacking in pace.
Lovren - expensive but needed
Can - good business if Lucas is sold
Lambert - cheap backup
Origi - wait and see
Manquillo - loan
Moreno - hope he's better than Enrique

Underwhelmed to be brutally honest. High hopes for Lovren and Moreno.

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Forgot Lazar - high hopes for him too, but an expensive risk.

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20 Aug 2014 07:58:00
Lallana is a fantastic player and one of the best technically gifted English player from quiet a long time.
Did we overpay?. Yes. Plain and simple.
BR was adamanet and got him. No other club would pay 25 mill for Lallana.

Can is a good business, But we need to Sell Lucas or else its a waste of a business.

Markovic looks like an exciting talent. 20 mill is a steep money who hasn't proved much. We ll have to wait and see. Alternatves could have been Shaquiri/ Firmino/Depay/Pedro.

Moreno is head and shoulders above anyone in the league. He is a brilliant footballer and our best signing so far.

Lovern is a much needed signing. But we must sell Skrtel/Agger to balance the signing.

Origi is a good young player, But Not needed IMO. Should have kept Borini whose already experienced in the league than buying Origi.

Monquillo makes sense and already looking like a bargain.

Lambert is a shrewed business, doesn't make much sense selling a young striker and buying an old player.

What we need.

A top class striker who would compliment our style and has 15-20 goals every season.
A decent GK to push Migs on his edge.
An attacking Winger like Kono ( Since IBE on loan )

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Agree with you ken, apart from lovren, who can tell is class so I don't see him as that expensive considering.

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How can u compare adam to lallana, he's act quite quick, both footed, can go either way . lovely balanced player. not 4getting good time Charlie liked he's drink. u will be proved wrong on lallana

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Lallana is nothing like Adam! lol :)
He is a real quality player who will work hard every week for us. He has two good feet, good passing, can score, is unselfish, can cross and thread through balls, and can run with the ball.

He will prove to be a great signing whether you think he was worth the money or not not for me to say

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Lallana is like Charlie Adam? Ken that is literally the worst post I've ever seen on here. There is no comparison! They're not ever the same nationality!

Charlie Adam was unfit, slow, lazy, had a poor touch, couldn't tackle, could barely shoot and didn't know the meaning of pass and move.

Lallana has incredible energy, an excellent turn of pace, runs himself into the ground, gets stuck in regularly pressing high up the pitch, has an excellent shot with either foot, and his passing and movement is immaculate. Technically, he is the most naturally gifted English player since Joe Cole.

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I agree with 5, Lallana / Adam is a shocking comparison. Also agree with Fencey but only on Lovren's price - I think he's a snip in today's market.

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20 Aug 2014 08:47:08
5vive

Lallana is an excellent player, But then Tadic looks one hell of a player came at half the price.
Tadic had 16 goals and 12 assist last term. He created close to 130+ scoring chance, more than any other player in the dutch league.
Tadic was extensively scouted by Liverpool FC.

Ken

Lallana is millions miles better than Charlie Adam.

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20 Aug 2014 10:22:38
Harry

I think you are smitten by Tadic a bit
The guy hasn't come from a stellar league I really wouldn't pay much attention to his statistics
In Lallana we have got someone who is adapted to the premier League
contributes a lot defensively as compared to Tadic
Tadic didn't have a great game against us his crossing for most part was wayward and he found it difficult to link up with Pelle

Lallana is miles ahead of Dusan Tadic
Though I also think we overpaid for Lallana by 5 million £

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20 Aug 2014 10:54:28
Reet

No mate, Liverpool FC extensievly scouted Tadic whole last year ( I am sure the Scouts are pretty good ). He is a superb player. And you could see him joining a top club next summer.

We were in the same situation with Lovern and Sakho/Llori. Lovern was available at close to 8 mill. And you know the rest.

I have no doubt on Lallana's ability, He is a top class player.

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Boom - What does it matter?

You say about the scouts knowing what they're doing and i'm sure the same is for the financial advisors at the club who will confirm what is viable and also BR decides who fits his system perfectly - If that's Lallana then great let's see the kid do well - We talk about our exciting style of football but let's remember who created that - BR, Not sure why we question transfers and money as really it doesn't matter does it - We just have an opinion on who we think would be good or like to see otherwise the club may aswell save on BR's wages and get us in to do the job is it

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As br said on more than one occasion he wants players to fit our style of play and clearly has had them scouted and people knocking the players already. astounds me

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20 Aug 2014 11:23:14
Two ridiculous statements on this thread -
1. Lallana is like Charlie Adam - Lallana is 10 times the player Charlie Adam is.
2. Moreno is head and shoulders above anyone in the league. - You bought a good young LB, at the moment that's all he is. Potential to be the best but definitely not head and shoulders above the rest!

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Spot on Redrosie.

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Strange post for you Ken, Lallana like Charlie Adam, can't think how you get to that conclusion, let's just say it is a blip in your usually sensible posts.

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I don't know, maybe people just read what they want to read.

I said he's like Charlie Adam in that "he's skilful but lacks pace".

I did not say he's the same ability
I did not say he's the same nationality (why bring that up?)
I did not say they play in the same position
I did not say they use the same dominant foot.
I did not say they have the same fitness
I did not say they have the same enthusiasm for alcohol.

I said they are both skilful but they both lack pace.

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19 Aug 2014 23:08:46
A few post saying people want bony over falco the main reason I want this is because falco is a loan and bony is for 5 year contract like it would take a lot to justify that loan deal due to the price it would cost the club

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Why only falco??? . I say let's buy Senator Gius nd Senator Grachus as well. although maximus is also a rather cheap alternative to all three

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19 Aug 2014 22:58:02
Reds, teixeira scored a good goal for Brighton today, hope Sami Hyypia plays him all games and make him top player.

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19 Aug 2014 22:40:12
Congrats to Joao Teixeira on scoring on his full debut and getting the win for Brighton - here's hoping he has a successful season!

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19 Aug 2014 22:06:34
Hi eds
My mate works in Broadgreen hospital an he said lambert was in today having a scan, any news on any injury?
Cheers gents

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20 Aug 2014 01:49:12
Ricky has no problems with his heart or his chest so there is no chance he was there for a scan.

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20 Aug 2014 07:47:46
Your mate deserves the sack if that's true, gross breach of trust to walk around talking about patients coming into the hospital you work at. Not to mention illegal

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He was in Arrowsmith in the Wirral visiting his sick uncle Monty, .

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Arrowe Park, it is.

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Don't think an electrician can be sacked through patient confidentiality but I'll put it to the hospital if it makes ya happy :/

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19 Aug 2014 21:38:48
So looks like Borini is staying to fight for his place. Not a bad thing but we still need anther Striker and with time running out I think we've left it to late now. We needed another option on Sunday and if we don't bring someone in it might just cost us top 4.

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Too late? Yeah 12 days for a signing is impossible!

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20 Aug 2014 08:18:38
Weve left it too late?
We contacted agents regarding their players availability. We are in a decent position to move for someone should they be deemed needed.

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19 Aug 2014 21:37:41
As a proud RED of 41 years living in Leeds, oh how sweet that Teixaira has bagged against them.serves the ignorant po**ers right who loved us not winning the league!
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19 Aug 2014 21:22:38
hi eds

have we shown any interest in pedro recently, did we ask about him is he for sale

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

19 Aug 2014 21:21:59
Eds

Would it be correct to say that only the top two places in the premier league are guaranteed next years champions league?

That is to say if the winners of both the champions league and Europa cup come from the prem and they finish outside the top four ( it happens as we know!)

Would this be the case?

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained this in the past - I am not aware of any case like this before.}

20 Aug 2014 04:14:55
Ed002

I'm not suggesting the case has existed, merely that it could now that the Europa league winner is guaranteed a champions league place ( or so I'm led to believe)

It would take a special set of circumstances for this to occur, but one has previously with us, so not that big a leap of faith to suggest both occurring in the same season

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{Ed002's Note - Somewhere this was explained. I don't have it to hand but you should be able to find it.}

19 Aug 2014 20:59:52
Hi Eds,

My Labrador can sniff out diseases in people fairly well, but won't go anywhere near my new away shirt. What does it mean?

Much love,

N.

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20 Aug 2014 01:06:03
Is it a Manchester United away shirt?

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19 Aug 2014 17:50:18
Ed,
because we've been so good recently would it be possible for you to treat us by telling us what PSG quoted us for Lavezzi? I know you don't talk finances but I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to give an occasional piece of finances.

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{Ed002's Note - Everyone has been good today with money - PSG are looking for €24M but will settle for a little less.}

What was the reaction of Liverpool to this quote? Did we baulk at it?

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{Ed002's Note - I really don't know. Liverpool is one of the clubs that have enquired after him.}

 
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