Liverpool Banter Archive April 20 2017

20 Apr 2017 22:57:35
Hi all,

Congrats to a very young Ajax team. great to see. during the match it was stated that Ajax have played at least one player who had come through youth academy in over 30 games for the last 30 years! Wow or what!

Anyhow. looking at the Ajax team can any of the Edds confirm if any teams (including LFC) have been keeping an eye on Younes? He's a wide left player who is very skill full and reminds me of cheski's hazard.

LFC could do with a left winger with plenty of pace and guile!

{Ed002's Note - You need the European pages - this is the Liverpool page.}

20 Apr 2017 18:50:23
I'm not saying sell hendo but say if Klopp what's a new captain who would you people like.

20 Apr 2017 19:05:49
Adam Lallana.

20 Apr 2017 19:11:09
To be honest, I think that is one area we really struggle with - we don't appear to have too many natural
leaders in the squad. If I had to pick, I would probably say Lallana at this time, but would like to see a strong presence at centre back or midfield that has the qualities to captain the side.

20 Apr 2017 22:52:46
Matip or Lovren.

20 Apr 2017 23:37:57
The problem with Lallana for me is that I feel he talks too much. Maybe I'm getting old, but that Nivea ad makes me cringe and I wish he would just zip it sometimes.

{Ed001's Note - same with me. Never a captain in a million years, he is one of the biggest culprits for going missing when it matters, especially after he has been spouting off to the press.}

21 Apr 2017 00:07:53
Milner.

21 Apr 2017 01:12:54
Lovren. seriously?

21 Apr 2017 01:22:36
Wijnaldum - has captained PSV before, is experienced and involved in everything in the middle of the park. Failing that perhaps Llalana.

21 Apr 2017 07:57:44
Always thought lucas deserved a shake of the stick. The ammount of crap that guy used to take only to change everyones opinion on him and knowing everyone was calling for his head, shows commitment and grit.

21 Apr 2017 08:31:48
Honestly next season we could have it that our captain is hendo milner our vice and Lucas our vice vice but none of these 3 could be playing if a midfielder is signed or hendo injured. Personally in this scenario I'd give it to coutinho see if he can take the next step to be a real leader on the pitch for us!

21 Apr 2017 10:47:32
i think having watched all the matches and the available tunnel cam programs in our team we don't seem to have that leader bully in the team a captain needs to be very vocal lead by example and to some extent a bully as he needs to verbally harass players to get a reaction on the field, for example when Gerrard was captain he led more by example early on his captaincy and learned to be more vocal but he always had Carragher who whilst always led by example on the pitch was the verbal bully always talking and shouting
I just don't see that in this team.

21 Apr 2017 15:07:01
I wouldn't pick Lallana because I can't see him staying in the starting line up for any more than another 12 months. I wouldn't be surprised if he was a substitute next season even.

Personally I would give it to a player like Firmino. I think the additional responsibilities would elevate him to a new level. He may not be your typical Carragher or Keane type leader, but he has that desire which drives others to work harder and the ability to win a game on his own at times. Kind of like a Gerrard type inspirational leader.

21 Apr 2017 15:15:18
If not Henderson I'd go with Milner.

21 Apr 2017 15:13:24
In a way, it's a sign of the times. The typical vocal leader that rallies the players and leads by example is becoming more and more scarce in the game. I struggle to think of too many out there.

21 Apr 2017 15:22:52
If Lallana is everyone's candidate then it's a sad indictment of the team's leadership stocks. No disrespect to Lallana, but he's not a leader that can galvanise a team. Not in a million years.

21 Apr 2017 19:16:33
Agree with Robin, Lallana is the only real option but it's a sad commentary on the state of our players leadership credentials rather than a glowing reference for Lallana.

20 Apr 2017 14:49:22
Will Hendo play again this season? not looking too good at the moment .

20 Apr 2017 14:54:25
No chance, he's not even running.

20 Apr 2017 14:56:26
I don't think so, sadly. Even more worrying is if he can even play consistently due to his heel issue.

20 Apr 2017 15:34:02
Unlikely he will play again this season. Someone on social media said hendo had a secret operation tho.

20 Apr 2017 15:37:22
All the more important to tie Can down to a new contract. With Lucas and Stewart on their way out, we do not have a single CDM to rotate with Hendo (Can aside) when he inevitably gets injured from time to time. Hopefully sorting out Can's contract situation and signing a quality CM like Keita will make Hendo's frequent absences less noticeable in our performances.

20 Apr 2017 15:52:53
3rd season in a row that we has lost him at the back end of the season. warning signs. Fergie was right.

{Ed001's Note - no he was not. It is nothing to do with his running style, as the bitter one knew when he spouted that bull in his book. It was an injury, completely unrelated, that caused his problems.}

20 Apr 2017 17:04:28
I have the same issue with my heel, I can assure you it is very painful.

There is no cure or operation to solve the issue, it's an issue he will have to learn to live with and will affect the rest of his career, sadly playing football especially at that level he'll miss more games than play, Klopp will need to find a solution.

Hope I'm wrong but that's what specialist has told me.

20 Apr 2017 18:00:47
Deceptikon, Fergie was right about absolutely NOTHING as the foot problem Hendo has has nothing to do with how he runs. Many athletes in diff sports have had it including NFL players but they are able to play through it due to high level treatment and top of the line sports science and medicine.

Fergie was just an old bitter who STILL can't bear that Hendo came out great by moving to us instead of his mob. Stop validating his nonsense as you're embarrassing yourself.

20 Apr 2017 19:19:44
Your heal is part of your foot of if I'm not mistaken. Footballers run on their feet hence me making the Fergie comment. Love Hendo. Been supporting LFC since the eighties. As bitter as Fergie was and as much as i don't like him, the man knew players. Built, broke up and rebuilt many successful teams. His comment as much as we may hate it stems from his knowledge of players.

{Ed001's Note - no, it stemmed from his bitterness after Hendo rejected his attempts to tap him up.}

21 Apr 2017 11:04:11
It's the plantar fasciitis problem innit? There's no way that's caused from a running style. It just happens. Can take up to two years, can sometimes be managed within a few months. There's talk of it being career long? Your body actually heals the issue itself after a year or two by forming a heel spur. That's worst case. He'll be right.

21 Apr 2017 15:17:20
Have to disagree 77. I have also the same issue but i have been heel and injury free for well over a year. It is merry hell when you have it as im sure you are aware especially when it moves to you heel. Good footware, insoles for plantar fasciitis and exercise for your feet worked wonders for me. The benifit that Hendo has is that he is surrounded by top medical people which will help him a great deal. I think he will be fine, i would guess that his heel has ruptured which could take 3/ 4 months to sort out.

21 Apr 2017 17:59:45
Plantar facilitis (sic) has absolutely NOTHING to do with "running from the hips", which was Fergies complaint about Hendo.

Leave the medical speculation to doctors, not crackpot assumptions from a poster trying to prove their (completely incorrect) point.

20 Apr 2017 14:28:17
Ed's, it seems like we have more injuries than any other team. My question is, who is responsible for conducting players medicals prior to signing. I get that some injuries are unavoidable and occur during games/ training, but it seems we have a lot of injuries that are just due to the players physique. Can more be done? Is it just bad luck?

{Ed002's Note - The club are responsible for the medicals and the training regime continues to be the cause of many of the muscle injuries - this has all been covered before.}

20 Apr 2017 18:16:57
LFC have covered the most km per 90m at the highest ave speed whilst using the fewest substitutions of the top 6.

20 Apr 2017 19:19:50
Whilst some injuries may be a result of a tough training programme, a number of the key injuries, in my opinion, have not been the result of the training regime. Coutinho was contact injury, Mane was pure bad luck, Lallana twice injured on international duty, Henderson an ongoing issue with his heel. I think we have just been plain unlucky in a number of circumstances where other teams have been somewhat luckier. It happens like that sometimes. Hopefully next season we won't be as unlucky.

{Ed001's Note - if it was down to the training then the hardest trainers would be the ones suffering the muscle injuries ie Firmino. It is down to a lack of basic fitness by the players. They need to be pushed harder if anything.}

20 Apr 2017 23:02:15
Who are our hardest trainers, I presume you mean firmino is one, I also assume hendo lallana Milner would be up there, and can also see origi mane can and wijnaldum Puting it in.

21 Apr 2017 15:09:29
Agree with Ed001 on this. You don't see the Brownlee brothers pulling muscles regularly and they train far harder. The other month one of them nearly passed out before his muscles gave in!

20 Apr 2017 13:13:20
Does Harry have a new user name?

20 Apr 2017 13:58:54
UEFALona apparently.

20 Apr 2017 14:57:35
I guess Insigne was no longer pulling any trees with Napoli.

20 Apr 2017 16:32:56
Lorenzo Insigne has score more goals than any other winger in Europe / Italy. He has registered more number of assists / goals than Hazard and Sanchez.

20 Apr 2017 23:08:06
According to bbc, Sanchez has 19 goals and 9 assists In the league, and insigne 14 and 7. Never mind that Sanchez has played half the season as a striker. Pointless harry.

21 Apr 2017 15:47:30
Thanks, Fencey for the correction. I guess Harry's new name will now be "My name is Alexis Sanchez".

20 Apr 2017 11:51:29
Petition to deny The S*n access to all Premier League clubs.


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20 Apr 2017 08:00:20
Morning all. Ed001, we've seen Klopp tinker with 3 at the back last 2 games, or at least ot seemed that way to me, so you think this could be his prefered option from now on or was it just to get the extra CB in there to cope with Stokes and WBA direct play? I quite like that set up but feels like we have not got the right personel to play it and we are better suited to 433.

{Ed001's Note - horses for courses mate, against the bigger, more direct teams who lack pace, I expect to see the back three. I would prefer we didn't use it though, it just does not suit our players.}

20 Apr 2017 09:17:22
So for Palace as an example, would we assume back to 433. They will look to use Townsend and Zaha on the counter no doubt.

{Ed001's Note - that is what I believe to be the case.}

20 Apr 2017 10:29:49
Honestly I said it earlier in the week but palace leave their front three forward and I don't expect that to change and they will look to play down the channels and win it off us high if we play out from the back. That being said bar their front three after that initial press they are the not the most mobile in the middle and around the back.
So if our passing out from the back is precise given any sort of movement from our front 3 they should get space to do damage.
The main interest will be how much clyne and milner still push forward and whether Lucas will have the legs to cover the channels if they do.

20 Apr 2017 11:56:31
Just read that Lucas, Matip and Klavan all doubtful for the weekend. Time for Gomez?

20 Apr 2017 12:08:28
Matip again?

20 Apr 2017 13:51:52
That would be bad news I don't mind the idea of throwing Gomez in at the deep end first time around he looked assured and calm in everything he did but who would back up be god forbid one of lovren or himself took a knock early on, with Lucas out as well will leave us quite short in midfield. Assuming can drop to deeper and grujic perhaps in then? Or coutinho back and Trent even out wide.
Could be a very interesting lineup at least it will be difficult for palace to prepare for anything specific.

20 Apr 2017 15:04:38
Fankly, I'm starting to get worried about the fitness of our players. Either they are fragile or the training regime needs to be recalibrated or something cos it seems Matip for example, can't complete a full game w/ o some sort of injury. Hopefully, they can be passed fit for Sun cos I have little to no confidence in a Gomez-Lovren partnership cos one is a bit rash and the other is untested.

20 Apr 2017 20:21:24
Matip has suffered a lot with injuries this season. Can anyone shed any light as to whether this was the case while he was in Germany aswell or is it just since he joined us?

19 Apr 2017 23:00:04
Hi Ed01 bit of a personal question if I may, You are obviously a Red and you wear your heart on your sleeve . Do you find it difficult editing this page? Like you I bleed LFC and I really get upset and sometimes furious by some of the things I read on these pages . I understand that we all have our own views and opinions and it is healthy to discuss it in a forum but surely even you must get sick and tired by some of the sh*t . Don't get me wrong I really value your humour and knowledge on football matters and I am not suggesting that you edit other clubs pages, I am am just trying to understand your motivation for getting up and doing i.

{Ed001's Note - I do sometimes get annoyed (to put it mildly), but I also cover all the pages we have, so I just leave this one alone when I need a break from it. It is just a case of remembering it is words on a screen and meaningless.}