Liverpool Banter Archive September 01 2011

 

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01 Sep 2011 23:51:32
Finally the season can now start without the uncertainity of whos going to be signed (Well at least till Jan anyway!)

I have to say that the squad has just gone through some major detox with so many players leaving and a few coming in. The wage bill has significantly been reduced, the club is debt free and we have a younger and talented squad. What a difference a year makes.

The owners look like they have more sense than money (Compared to City and Chelski) considering they have only invested something like 30million pounds of their own money. The majority of the money spent has come in from sales and if you actually add the 30million saved on wages this coming year then they have actually broken even.

These guys are shrewd business people but for me in order for them to really spalsh the cash on the world class players we really want in the team then we have to qualify for the champions league. If we do this then I see the likes of Aurelio, Maxi, Skertal, Kuyt slowely being phased out for younger world class players to compliment the predomininantly british squad we have.

The players brought in this summer are good enough to help us qualify for the champions league but not the title. But remember this is a 3 year plan where we make gradual steps to becoming the kings of English football. I just hope Kenny will be the man to lift the premeir league and not let someone else get the glory in 3 years.

Really looking forward to the rest of the season and just hope we remain consistant and play the liverpool way!!

My main hope - that Ferguson will not retire that year. I believe very soon we will triumph over his overrated team, and I want to see him beaten by Liverpool as he deserves!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:47:26
{Ed009's Note - Hey thats hardly fair on Carrick and Anderson. They take up a small space on the pitch which people can't get through.}
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I agree, I don't think Carrick is good enough, but Anderson will shine this season, mark my words!

G.A.G.U.S

No he wont. He's come back even fatter and worse than he was before.

Martin

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:44:32
-------------------REINA----------------------
--JOHNSON-COATES--AGGER-ENRIQUE-----
--------------LUCAS--ADAM-------------
----GERRARD---SUAREZ-DOWNING--
-----------------CARROLL----------------
BENCH:DONI/CARRA/SKRTEL/KELLY/HENDERSON/KUYT/BELLAMY

TEAM WHEN FULLY FIT

Sounds good to me

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:39:47
-----------------REINA----------------
-KELLY-CARRAGHER-AGGER-ENRIQUE-------
-------------LUCAS--ADAM------------
-HENDERSON-------------DOWNING---------
-----------KUYT---SUAREZ---------
BENCH:DONI/SKRTEL/FLANAGAN/SPEARING/MAXI/BELLAMY/CARROLL/

TEAM FOR STOKE

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:25:19
to all the doubters when we signed downing , he looks well worth the money and is flying

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:16:28
AGUERO TO LIVERPOOL IN JAN.....

Ed is it true that Aguero's not happy at city and wants to come to Liverpool in Jan? Lol sorry ed won't get posted but, couldn't resist. :) {Ed001's Note - if I had any I would be tearing my hair out right now!}

I asked this question a while ago and Ed002 told me that he would be nailed on to sunderland come christmas. I instantly believe him/her, he/she wouldn't lie to me ;)

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:16:26
Yea just gotta say a HUGE thanks to all the Eds, Including other teams Eds too, And macca for all the info time and patience they have given to us all. They do it for free and because they love what they do. Massive respect to all.

Good season head reds.

UCCM

Totally agree top job lads, ladies, slightly strange ones... now what do we do lol... thanks guys.

Quigz23

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:14:53
hi all. just wanted to put rauls exit into perspective. while i agree he has agood touch and an eye for a pass, 14m or whatever price has to be good business for a player who would not be in kk first 11. his style is great when your winning but whenyour chasing a game and need winners he would be gone missing. we have all seen this guy pull out 70/30s in his favour. i enjoyed watching and liked him but at 29 years old his best is no doubt behind him. just what i feel of course. YNWA SCARFACE

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:12:57
I for one am pretty happy with the summer's transfer activities. Our squad depth is the best it's been for a while. KK and DC have conducted themselves with quiet dignity. Many people questioned Downing's signing but surely after seeing just a few displays people can now see why he was brought in? So many on here were saying we should have gone for Mata, maybe, maybe not, but you have to put trust in the Manager's decisions. Many also doubted Henderson's quality or potential. Obviously, only time will tell, but I think it's interesting that he was the first signing, and such a quick one. Dalglish has proven in the past that he can pick the right player's for his team, again got to trust there.
I'm really happy about the Bellamy comeback. Would have been funny if John Arne did sign as was rumoured before going to Fulham.
Adam looks an absolute bargain and I suspect so will Coates in a little while.
All in all, happy days ahead we hope.
Thanks again Ed's for all your work, and patience.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:12:24
We are all going to see things differently regarding mereiles but for what its worth I think we did well. I go to every home game and look on in horror as he pulls out of so many tackles and challengs its unbeleivable! If he stuck his foot in and wasnt such a pussy he would be playing every game due to his undoubted quality in possession. We arnet carrying passengers anymore full stop. thats what the ethos of this window has been and it ends a very mediocre period in players and heir attitudes towards us and our club. List the players you wanted gone and they have done. We know the names repeated again and again, theyre gone. But it cost us a lot of dough. Mereiles has paid for those deals we all wanted done and the camp will be a better place for it. We have a tight fully integrated unit now without any staellite players stirring it up or harbouring resentment, we can focus. All of us. Back the team and the manager and we will all be the better for it. The 'deadwood' has gone and there's new shoots and soild oaks to sing on across the park to glory. Kenny Dalglish is us and we are him. He loves this great club as we do and we, all of us, should trust in that.
YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2011 23:00:49
May 2012

1) Man City
2) Man Utd
3) Chelsea
4) Arsenal
5) Tottenham

It is really difficult to decide between Man Utd or Man City. Man City have such a strong squad, I therefore expect them to win.

Wenger will sort out Arsenal.
Harry is shrewd.

Liverpool will fade and be a disappointment.
John Henry said it himself, "Liverpool are years behind Utd."

This is a realistic assessment without fan emotion.

If you want to understand my position, watch Barcelona.

Liverpool will finish 6th or 7th. After a promissing start.

More like:
man city
man utd
liverpool
chelsea
arsenal
spurs

Well done, anonymous clown. I doubted anything on this page could surprise me, but you're utter tripe worked. Bravo you balloon
Milamber

Are you looking at the premiere league table upside down? thank god you are not one of KK's players.


hibsylfc

Haha, I laughed at the "Harry is shrewd" bit, as a reasoning for why we will only come 6th!

Adam

Shrewd is the one word I wouldn't use to describe Redknapp. His buys are terrible, can't believe we offloaded Keane back to them. Every decent payer at Spurs was not the doing of Redknapp

 

 

01 Sep 2011 22:58:47
Eds and Macca thanks for doing a great job over the summer. I wanted to ask if you think we have enough depth in centre mid considering injuries will come into the equation as the season wears on? {Ed001's Note - yes, of course we do, we have lots of cover there.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 22:41:04
Never posted before, but just wanna say good rid dens to raul. Lfc are on the way up, chavski can have him.
Quick question, how is stevie g getting on, when will he be back. Thanks again, great site

 

 

01 Sep 2011 22:28:21
It is funny how Chavski fans are convinced that Raul Meireles was our best player last season! The games where he scored were his best games other than that, Lucas Leiva was head and shoulders above him. And Adam brings a whole different type of ball game to the park.

Cheers,

Spacca.

Spot on, Raul was not even in the mix for player of the year really. Some fans just thought he was cool I suppose...

The Real KB

 

 

01 Sep 2011 22:26:03
above all, a fantastic summer that everyone should be delighted with. And i think bellamy is a great signing, gives real options on the wings and pace upfront, something i felt we would lack if suarez was out of the team. Bellamy seems quite popular with some of the players so could anyone explain exactly what happened between him and rise. Did rafa then sell him purely due to that or because west ham offered us 1mil more than we bought him for and he felt he could do more with the money?

He was sold to pave the way for torres

 

 

01 sep 2011 22:23:28
hi eds, great site, will defo keep coming back even though the window doesn't open for another four months! i know the window has only just shut, but do you know when the club will have finalised it's main targets for january, if any?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 22:15:54
Hi ed's , looking ahead (I know that can be dangerous) to next year, when we will be in champions league (fingers cross) the players we need r Pacey players ie: lennon,johnson and hopelly we can get them next year with spurs not having CL, and johnston not played much with man city! Having 2 players of that kind is essential! The mancs have it in young and nani and I believe this would take us 2 the next level! Predictions: 3rd this year, plus a trip 2 wembley, and next year the treble! Y..N..W..A till I die!

A.Johnson yes! Lennon no!

Aaron Lennon has next-to-none decision making ability

 

 

01 Sep 2011 22:06:07
i have red th4 page from the bottom, and i got to say i could not evenm get half way up from the bull s**t. I dont think any other club can feel as confidant and as lucky as us, how many player managers do u know that has achived and done for the greater good than our very own legend/king, ive only been so itno liverpool than casual support in the last 7 years. Every single thing ive ever lermt aboput this great club has warmed my heart, and made me so proud i supporet this club. and i supported the boys well before i knew about there glory between the late 50 and early 90's is just my love, please all be one boys

billynwa

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:59:15
bit annoyed @ raul mereles typo maybe transfer request late end of transfer day shame on chelsea to that twice now .
maybe we should kept cole or aqua as backup

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:55:48
BREAKING NEWS:

Due to recent developments, Liverpool FC have tonight announced the cancellation of next years annual Charity Golf Day. Full Report to follow......

Dirks Engine Room

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:52:46
i can't believe some of you guy's the owners have spent and spent well as far as i'm concerened, the only downer for me is meireles going to a direct rival.

i can't believe someone is moaning that we've spent £112 and received 82m and saved 30m in wages thats good buisness! thats what we all wanted and needed 1- strengthen 2- sell deadwood 3- lower the wage bill, i'm not seeing any negatives here unless you wanted us to spend 112m and just let all the deadwood go out on loan with us paying all there wages!

lets just get behind the team, manager and the owners as without them we'd still have dumb and dumber running the show and be in administration!

cheers for keeping us informed ed's and macca its appreciated.

fester

Exactly, we want our club to run effieciently and with the future in mind, look what almost happened a year ago when we had owners withotu a clue how to run a business.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:44:24
Liverpool finish 5th or 6th this season.
Unless, of course, they buy some serious creative players.
Instead of selling them !

Im more optommistic , think we have the players this year to pick up more points against the lesser teams where we have struggled in the past . we always do well against the top teams so if e are still in the mix come march/april anything can happen.

Why, Chelsea won leagues without any creativity, just brute force. Man Utd been devoid of much creativity since too, yet they work as a team and grind out results.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:33:45
Speaking to a few chelsea fans i know, they seem really let down with getting Meireles instead of Modric. It was a well known fact that Meireles was on his way out of Liverpool this summer which is why he hardly figured in pre season and didnt make the starting XI in the premier league for LFC (albeit three games). The Chelsea fans i spoke to feel that the "pulling power" chelsea once had does not seem to be there anymore and that Modric should of been the man bought to chelsea rather than meireles. For me as an LFC fan I just see positives in the move player unhappy over contract issues, not getting a starting place and having a sell on value that would help balance the books of a productive summer at LFC. Also in the players we have signed we not only have a solid british base but also quite a few players who can easily shift from one position to another .

Intelligent post. Well written and points out the fact clearly. We have gotten rid of Meireles at the perfect time. had we wanted him to stay, we would have raised his pay and kept him. We did not want him. Simples.

If Kenny doesn't deem him necessary, that's perfectly fine with me.

Adios Raul.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:24:41
Just a thought and I apologise if someone has pointed this out already but the last Liverpool player to score against Chelsea was Mereiles and before that Torres. Didn't Benayoun score the season before? Perhaps it is a new tactic they are employing to beat us.

Kev down South

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:21:46
Firstly, thanks for the amazing info and coverage of the transfer window eds/ macca. Secondly why are we talking about transfers in Jan? Let's enjoy what we have got for now and get right behind the team. KK and DC have done a fantastic job at removing some of the dross that's been bought in the last few seasons. We have finally a decent squad to try and get back into the top 4 and reduced the wages dramatically. If things need tweaking come Jan then I'm sure Henry and Werner will sanction a few more signings. Its going to be a fantastic season fighting it out for the top four positions! come on!!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:20:58
ed, whats your take on this summers transfers
{Ed001's Note - I am delighted with how the transfer window went.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:12:30
Hi eds great job during transfer window ,i see on earlier post that our spend less our fees for players in v out is only about 30 m is that correct ,total new team almost and hardly broke the bank .Did we manage to offload 24 players seems a huge amount ? Bet u lookin forward to jan cause i cant wait . RED2TOE {Ed001's Note - I am not sure of the total figures due to the fact we had to pay off a large number of the outs.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 22:10:35
Hi eds and Macca i just want to say thanks for your great work over the summer. Also great work by King Kenny and the rest of the team. I think Bellamy on a free could be the best piece of business he will just fit in perfect on how we play pass and move and interchanging with the forwards and midfield. But i think all signings are great pieces of business. Lets hope none of our players get injured this next week. Merieles a bit of a luxury player always trust the king. Once again quality work.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 22:09:48
With Bellamy joining, where does that leave Andy Carroll in terms of the starting lineup? In my opinion, Suarez and Bellamy would be a brilliant, lively pairing, but £35 mil is a lot to leave on the bench. What do you think? And what will be Kenny's first choice team and formation?

Ash

Belamy can also play both wings so maybe he has been bought for that reason

It'll give Andy more time to settle and as time goes by the pressure on him will ease.
kidmillions

 

 

01 Sep 2011 22:07:34
To be fair to you lot, Liverpool have made some good signings. I would imagine you'll be just behind Stoke in 6th or 7th leaving the mid-table teams for dust. Fairplay and good luck this season.

Swansea Fan {Ed009's Note - Is that Swansea, United?}

Can't be a Jack as they dont receive broadband in their caravans, so must be a gutted Manc typing from his skip and stealing someones wifi.
UR

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:24:10
I know who Macca is.
If it's not Mcateer or mcmanaman it must be...
Norris mcwhirter - As he broke all rumour records during this window?
Ultra Red

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:19:26
Gagus unlike you,we had players selected for the Copa America. All eyes were on Uraguay and Suarez. A 6ft 5 inch centre half winning most headers and tackles would be pretty hard to miss would be i repeat pretty hard to miss. PS who the feck is Utd's barber,well barber at Liverpool,hairdresser at Utd. He'd be getting his neck stretched if Albert Pierpoint was still alive for Jones highlights,same era i suppose old Albert and Phil's hairstyle,Jesus wept. Well played Shelvey after coming on as well Jonson6

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:15:55
Hey Eds, just to say thanks for your efforts over the summer. So happy with the work KK and DC have done, got rid of a fair few uneeded players. Little bit disappointed with the way miereles went but no major loss at all for club. Hes gone to an ageing club, leaving behind one that is growing. I feel the signings we've brought in are quality and just what we needed to fill the holes that have developed over the past years. Great work. In Kenny we trust. YNWA
BTD

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:08:25
PEOPLE lets not dwell on losing Raul & Aquaman
we have some amazing youngsters here like
suso,sterling,morgan just 2 name afew lets give them a chance we have a quality squad now no deadwood left happydays on there way

We havn't lost them! We got rid!
kidmillions

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:03:08
Hi- I think one of the Eds mentioned that there is still time to take someone on who is a free agent. is that true, and who do you think would be a possibility?(Woodgate, Pires, Gudjohnsen etc) i know i should just give up discuusing transfers at this stage but im hooked and i dont wanna stop!

Woodgate went to stoke

 

 

01 Sep 2011 21:02:17
Wel eds any word how Steve g's getting on . And gr8 work over the summer {Ed001's Note - as far as I am aware there are no major problems and it is just a matter of time before he is back.}

I might add to ed01 that letting go mereiles is a very good sign for a speedy return and a steady health of our beloved stevie.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 20:58:32
why on earth are these crap players still on lfc payroll spearing and jonjoe absolute joke for liverpool who cares spearing came from lfc he is crap get rid soon as....

Gagun? is that you? spearing is pure class you numpty.

Be honest mate, he's NOT class. I'm a loyal Red as well. Calling SPearing class is way off.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 20:27:47
Anyone else watching Jordan Henderson playing with confidence and running the game for England. Another great touch then strike for a great goal . Top debut by Flano as well so far. Tremendous in the air for his size. We've defo got a real talent in Henderson. Now i can defo see why Merieles was moved on,suppose blaggin an injury might have made K.K's mind up though . Jonson6

Was just thinking the same thing mate. Only problem is Pearce is playing him far too deep for me, just shows what he can do when he gets forward and have more influence on the play.... But yeah he's linking play very nicely, bags of confidence and scored a cracker! That cross for chamberlain was delicious as well! Flanno been excellent so far, loved that trademark crunching challenge he made earlier!

King Kam

Shame its against azerbaijan, and he was embarassingly outclassed in euros in the summer, doing a sterling job running games for england as they crashed in the group stages.

Henderson had enough on his plate during the summer with every dick in the country having a pop at him wanting him to fail - now he's settled in had Dalglish put an arm around him he's started to come out of his shell. Don't be a tw*t.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 20:13:29
Looks like Meireles realised just how sh*t your club really is! That's right, sell your best midfielder and bring in an over the hill Craig Bellamy. It's funny how you lot are saying Coates is world class, when the majority of you have never seen him play.
CHAMP19NS

G.A.G.U.S

Why are you so concerend with our incommings and out goings I heard a late rumour that your going all out to sign djemba djemba and taibi learn some respect and stay at scum rumours Dan T

Go and give yr head a wobble ya gimp,you wont be saying that when coates and carrol and the boys are running at yr backs,ferdi will s**t himself,
18 and on the way up,jimmybosun,

For starters miereles wasn't our best midfielder , and secondly its various pundits saying coates will be world class.
Jealous are we?

LAVERS

Best midfielder? Least we got a midfield.

Jimbob {Ed009's Note - Hey thats hardly fair on Carrick and Anderson. They take up a small space on the pitch which people can't get through.}

Haha oh dear god. G.A.Y.G.U.S, your are an absolute fool. Best midfielder? It goes to show how little you watch football.

Its typical really. I have a lot of respect for Man United, the manager and the supporters. But you are just a pathetic 'fan'. Someone who has jumped on the 'I support Man U cus there the best' bandwagon.

Seriously, go and get a grip you immature little child. Start actually watching football before you comment on a grown ups forum.

RuncornRed

You seem like a very angry young man. Don't you have more important things to do than spout lies on a rival's rumours page? Perhaps your homework, or you could pick out the book you want your mum to read you tonight ;)

You can have your Jones and Smalling - they're both just older, overhyped, less talented versions of the great Uruguayan giant we've bought! We sold Meireles because he couldn't get in our team! Says a lot if he's supposedly our best midfielder.

Foolish boy

Martin

Get back to your own site, you boys are running scared. We'll see who prevails when we go to the trenches.

You've got Phillip Jones, lets just see how much weight he puts on when he has a spell out of action with an injury, the boys not what he's made up to be.

We've brought in the class and character now run on sunshine, its our time, we're coming for you.

Ozone

This chap goes on all the sights doin the wind up, gaygus ur all fart n no splash, dont reply to this fag

You lot rave about carrick but you ant seen him play 4 years.

You got the record (for now & whiskey nose it) but your club & manager got no class.

Jimbob

Best midfielder,oh yeh thats y he couldnt get in the team

Yeah our best midfielder who starts on the bench, maybe he is better than the whole Man Utd midfield but he is a squad player

Signed Ben

Wow what a intellectual post. I am so envious of your footballing knowledge.

So does that make Ryan Giggs a dinosaur then. Ross

You don't seem to know much about football if you think mereiles was the best midfielder in a team with steven gerrard. ahem.

All you Reds, GAGUS has got 13 of you hooked with his bait. Hail hail Timalloy
In manchester he is a WUM

Give it a rest you numpty, he was probably our 5th choice mudfielder and would have strolled into the Centre of the park for your lot, cant wait to see your makeshift midfield taken apart by ours when we give you your anual stuffing this season

Amusing to see the arrogance of liverpool fans towards their united counterparts, i guess ignorance really is bliss, liverpool still aren't in the same league as united, not even close, and the only reason ferdinand might be s**tting himself at the thought of carroll running towards is because the fat dunce might fall on him

For anyone who was offended by the homophobic remarks tonight(gaygus), I am sure Ed009 will isssue an apology.

G.A.G.U.S
ps- You lot are so easily annoyed.

Reason why GAGUS thinks RM is our best midfielder? He's comparing RM to the likes of Carrick, etc at Man Utd

 

 

01 Sep 2011 20:04:02
What a summer, what a squad we have now. Not only have we got the necessary quality in depth but we have the right character in the dressing room. A couple of strong willed jocks, 3 determined geordies, passionate scousers, 2 fiery south americans, some tough spaniards/ scandinavians and a welsh dragon who still has a bit of fire in him.

The days of wilting under a bit of pressure are over. I expect us to beat the run of the mill teams such as your Boltons and Wigans (no disrepsect meant), the key to this season is who out of the main four or five take the most points off each other and I think we have the character in the dressing room and the quality to prevail as the victors.

Kenny's on it and he's got the balance right. I fancy us for top 3/ pushing for the title. We as fans have our part to play on match day to ensure the atmospheres right and get behind the lads. Utd have had their time now its ours.

Ozone.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:56:22
Whilst I was disappointed raul left, dint life go on after Torres? n just like Suarez did instead of Torres Bellamy will offer us so much more - left, right & upfront & most important he wants to be a red.

Jimbob

Couldn`t agree more, Think Bellamy will play with a lot more passion, and will get stuck in. Ross

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:53:08
Any player who wants to leave should be given as much encouragement to work elsewhere as soon as possible. I liked Moreiles, he did a great job for us. But as soon as he decided he wasn't happy being at The Greatest Club in the World, we helped him further his lesser ambitions elsewhere. We'll survive without him I think...

Red Heart

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:43:45
Scottish football's reputation has taken a battering recently but in one field we still lead the way, in the EPL currently are SIX top class Scottish managers,
Dalglish, Ferguson, Coyle, Mcleish, Lambert and Kean, keeping up the great footballing traditions of Stein, Shankly and Busby, hail hail Timalloy

Kean...top class?????

Kean no where near top class but Davey Moyes should be metioned he has done a great job considering the pile of carp he's working with!

Moyes?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:43:13
He handed in a transfer request to force deal through after Chelsea offered £6 mill on Tuesday plus add ons. Did you want to keep an obviously angry, unhappy player in the squad?? I think KK and DC did very well getting £12 mill for him. Deal was done by 10pm then LFC announced he'd handed in request. I love how no one is bigger than the club again!
PS

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:40:03
Only four months to go until Jan window opens.

Sorry Ed but let's get everyone's opinion on who we will sign with the Meirelles money. For me I think we will sign one of Affelay, Johnson or Honda.

Any of these would be a good acquisition to our squad.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:36:00
The only problem I have with Meirelles leaving is that it was so late on and we never got another player in (for me this would have been Affelay or A. Johnson if possible) both would have cost roughly the same.

I feel by him going so late we've lost an extra player of certain quality not world class but decent. I wouldn't get carried away by him leaving as an earlier post put it he had a run of ten games where he did well but apart from that I never noticed he was on the pitch.

Ed do you know if there was any move for either of the above Affelay or Johnson? {Ed001's Note - no player was targeted to replace Meireles late in the window, he had already been replaced with our early signings.}

Sorry Ed I didn't mean to replace Meirelles I. Meant just as a signing was either Johnson or Affelay targeted?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:35:54

01 Sep 2011 17:45:24
Eds, Please post.

Correct me if I'm wrong but with Joe Cole going to Lille, does that mean that there is now no Number 10 in the Liverpool squad? I believe that was his number right? And it has not goine to Bellamy, so my question, Is it reserved for a player in the January transfer window (Hazard...I wish :-), or could there be a reshuffle in squad numbers...It will be odd for Liverpool FC not to have a Number 10
{Ed001's Note - do you really think any signings will be conditional on them getting the number 10? Does it really matter what number players have? I fail to see any relevance in this whatsoever.}


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i disagree ed i think it does matter what number they get for some players it might just be a lucky number for them or a number of statement like the number 7 shirt was for us.
would it be right if andy carroll had squad number 1,and with what it means to the club what if poulsen had got given the number 7 ?. {Ed001's Note - I really don't see that it matters sorry.}

I think even with Cole gone to Lille on loan he has'nt proper left so the No.10 shirt is still his! Alphared

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:26:04
Henderson captain for under 21's in Euro qualifier. Flano right back and Shelvey and Wisdom on bench. Ulsterpool, you right mate if your reading. Jonson6

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:19:50
thankyou fenway,commoli,kenny.and everyone who s changed face of lfc.ive been biggest moaner.and impatient.made up we moved early for once,in window!think we mat still be bit short creativity wise,link player behind striker/s.wide right,and up top.but truely believe if were there abouts, by endve jan.and have luck with injuries,with rivals in europe we can !,get 19th,this season!believe!ynwa jim mac,e.port

Reckon we have that link / right hand side player you're on about. Gerard

Fitzy

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:16:53
All this bad blood btween lfc fans and Raul M will be put to bed once a so called Steve Gerrard is fully fit.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:11:36
10 mill for jelovic are you lot having a laugh, the lad's worth double that the way the market is now. kenny the tim trying to insult our club or take our best player, still fancy chelsea for the league and rangers up here. blue nose double get to the bookies. rangers till i die

Jelovic £20m, give it a rest, David N'gog could score as many goals as he does in the SPL, Kenny is a hero a liverpool and Celtic legend there is not a single player in the hole of the Rangers team worthy of the Liverpool jersey

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:10:09
Apart from Man City's squad i think our squad is a match for any one's, there's nothing in this league to be scared of. I predict a 2nd place finish this year and you never know, if Man City's superstars ego's start clashing and they all start fighting with the manager and each other there could be a league title in it for us.
On the Meireles transfer Chelsea are welcome to him, he can't pass the ball, bad in possession and can't give our take a tackle. We got are money back and some, good business if you ask me.

While i love how you totally forgot about those other red s**tes, havta say that meireles can pass. He does work well in KK's pass-and-move system. Pity about his contractual disagreements

 

 

01 Sep 2011 19:08:15
To the Meireles doubters, the best thing is that we managed to get 12million for him.

In my opinion he was a great player, creative and a hard worker. He wasn't first choice however. He is injury prone (as we've seen).

We have managed to get 12 million for an injured player, and the money will be used to pay the costs accrued getting rid of the loiterers at the club.

In my opinion, a shame we couldn't keep him, but it is best for the club. We need to consider our finances, and deal more efficiently. I think its a good judge of character from the club, in that they wouldn't up his wages. There is no point in paying ludicrous amounts of money for inconsistency. LFC is one of the best clubs in the world, and should not reward mediocrity, in terms of ability or appearances. A successful club is not just judged on what happens on the pitch.

RuncornRed

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:59:52
Craig Bellamy on Steven Gerrard;
""Even if the chips are down and you can't see yourself getting into the game, he can just do something out of nothing. Even if he is just going to pass the ball five yards, it is the best five yard pass you have ever seen."

Our 'marquee signing' is back in training and will hopefully return soon. Unlike in previous seasons, we now have sufficient quality that we don't have to rush him back, or to play him with injuries. This should mean that we will have a fully fit Steven Gerrard for the first time in years. And I believe that a fully fit Gerrard is still the best central midfielder in the EPL.

Unlike some other recently departed midfielders, he desperately wants success for our club, and is proud to wear the LFC shirt.
Red Steve

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:36:02
Hi eds GREAT JOB on deadline day can i just say that the people who are unhappy about the raul deal i completely understand. The fact is he wanted a pay rise and he is not starting every week he is a good player but when stevie G gets back there will be no place for him. I trust KK he will only do whats best for our club if that means selling a player im glad because its better to have a squad who want to play for us, i for one would give my right arm to play for Liverpool and if any player feels different he can leave.He might be a good addition for Chelsea but at 28 i don't think it will be long till he jumps ship again. Really happy with the owners KK and DC top job great wheeling and dealing really happy the water company bought Poulson lol.

Raj

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:32:40
It wouldn't bother me going with 3 centre halves against Stoke. And i nearly agree with the earlier post were he named his starting 11. But besides being the best footballing centre half in the Prem, the way he dominated Kevin Davies to such an extent he was taken off really did impress me. (remember Birmingham with Sutton and Heskey up front). When i've seen Davies play against Chelsea he gives John Terry nightmares and i dont like Terry but i do think he is a top echelon centre half. Agger won a big header early doors and never let up. Helped with some shielding of Davies from Lucas on 1 or 2 occasions he must've won 90% of the aerial duels with him. If he's finally overcome his injury woes,and he is looking stronger and fitter then i've seen him before but their is no way he'll be left out against Stoke or anyone else when if he stays fit for that matter. It will be a stern test against Stoke and Coates may or may not make his debut,if he does, he's proved his got the not just the ability but the mental fortitude shown by stepping into the breach in the Copa America the way he did at pretty short notice. I think he'd relish the challenge and will pass with flying colours. Saying all this i belive we'll over come Stoke's aerial bombardment whatever formation or players we play, and 100% sure after there early closing down and pressure they'll try and put us under our class will shine through and it'll be them chasing shadows just like Bolton. Dont forget Coates can jump, Crouch needs a dredlock to pull or a shoulder to climb on in order to leave the ground. Jonson6

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:30:26
Every one sayin we done wrong selling meireles but who would u rather have in your team Gerrard or meireles come on only one winner

Mickleburg

Yes Meireles

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:24:14
Ed's do you have any idea why liverpoolfc.tv have not said the raul meireles deal has been completed? (i'm not trying to hint that maybe theres a suprise...i'm just wondering) {Ed001's Note - I have no idea sorry.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:19:36
Hi Ed

When is Gerard expected back?

Star scouse {Ed001's Note - he is due back this month, though it will take him time to get to full fitness.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:18:38
Can I just say, and I think I speak for the majority of reds, a massive thank you to Mr.Commoli. A lot of people doubted you when you first came to Anfield, but my word, you have made this summer probably the best ever. I honestly believe we can win the league this year, and we are gonna have to be VERY good to do that. But every player we have signed has 1 thing in common, a big heart! People willing to run through walls to help this club. Thank you Commoli, The King (of all kings!) and Mr.Henry.

Well said - and i agree - dont aim for fourth - go for first = remember shanks - first is first - second is nowhere - if you aim for the moon you may just hit the stars

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:17:52
ed at the end of the day is a player wonts to dont stand in his,look at the torres team not good for the team or staff.granted he was a decent player but not world class.have we missed him playing this season?no,for ppl to say he is a good rm is silly.what u think ed?

ste liverpool {Ed001's Note - I think the right decision was made, he was not going to be any more than a back up this season.}

Ed001 i seen your reply to a post before,which was spot on.a light weight bench warmer to sum it up

ste liverpool

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:14:11
Hey eds. Just wondering if the trial for Marco Bueno was sucessful and if he has joined the club? Cheers, JJ. YNWA {Ed001's Note - it is difficult to be entirely sure, but I have been told he will sign on his 18th birthday.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:13:12
Besides the new signings KK has done well to at least get rid of the dead wood ...mainly Ngog who was over rated by many but KK could see right through that...if he was any good would we have let him go??

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:12:38
Everyone is going on and on aout the Meireles deal being a joke, but I back it 100% and am not surprised by it either. Kenny has always said that it is the name on the front of the shirt that matters, not the one on the back. And that NO player is bigger than Liverpool Football Club. We've made huge strides forward since last season I am very optimistic for this season, and hopefully many more under The King.
Kenny2

With the Exception of Gerrard

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:10:33
Hey Eds great job through the whole transfer window.

I was wondering if you could please tell me how much the transactions over the summer have saved us on our wage bill - and what was the gross amount we spent on players after we factor in contract payoffs and minus the money brought in from selling players?

Thanks. {Ed001's Note - impossible to say, because of the fact that we have had to pay off most of the players that left. We will only know for sure when the accounts are published.}

Ok thanks. if you know of a website that publishes the salaries please pass it on.

thanks again for all the hard work. {ed001's note - the accounts are the closest you will get, they are released to companies house periodically through the year.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 18:00:04
Time for a bit of light relief after all the transfer pressure, courtesy of an 'undercover agent' at OT :

betting.betfair.com/football/premiership/the-201112-manchester-united-lookalike-xi-010911.html

Lol
The Real KB

KB, I hope this agent is "bonded". Guys what about Taggart and Boris Johnstons lookalikes, brilliant hail hail Timalloy

 

 

01 Sep 2011 17:53:06
Evening Eds and Reds,
I have it on absolute authority that I know bugger all about any transfers, gossip or misfortunes / fortunes regarding our club.
Thanks
Ultra Red

 

 

01 Sep 2011 17:52:07
Anyone like me think we were speaking with Chelsea for more than just the last few hours of the transfer window about Raul? The late transfer request was probably so he wasn't entitled to any part of the transfer fee. We'll be ok without him. Plenty of cover in the middle and out wide. Looking forward now to things settling and the season ahead

 

 

01 Sep 2011 17:48:52
Hi Eds and all LFC fans. Today we should be more than happy with our transfers(both ins and outs) and in the name of all true LFC fans, I wish to thanks Mr Henry, Mr Commoli and our King Kenny for their continuous effort in changing our beloved team into one that I am sure will be feard by all teams in Europe. I would also request all LFC fans to stop moaning about players that KK should have bought or should not have bought and instead give our full support to our king and all his staff for this new season.

Mauritian fan

 

 

01 Sep 2011 17:45:24
Eds, Please post.

Correct me if I'm wrong but with Joe Cole going to Lille, does that mean that there is now no Number 10 in the Liverpool squad? I believe that was his number right? And it has not goine to Bellamy, so my question, Is it reserved for a player in the January transfer window (Hazard...I wish :-), or could there be a reshuffle in squad numbers...It will be odd for Liverpool FC not to have a Number 10
{Ed001's Note - do you really think any signings will be conditional on them getting the number 10? Does it really matter what number players have? I fail to see any relevance in this whatsoever.}

People need hope and will find hope in even the smallest glimmer of s**te

Why do you thread on this posters dreams even if they are insipid they are his dreams, thread lightly for one day your dreams to will be just as arsinine

 

 

01 Sep 2011 17:40:54
come on people with need to build a bridge and get over this meireles thing hes gone end off.
king henry

It wasnt kk or the clubs decision to let him go - it was the players - we had that once with torres for a season - we dont want it again - right decision -job done

 

 

01 Sep 2011 17:40:16
Another point I wish to raise is about Cole's loan move to Lille.

Usually when you loan a player out it is either to gain experience, if they are surplus and cant find a buyer, or with a view to a permanent move.

My thoughts are that Cole has a future at LFC, Steve Clarke said so not too long ago. This season, Cole would have barely got a decent game in, and would have just rot on the bench at best. I think he was loaned out to Lille to rediscover his form, and then next year would be in the right frame of mind for a more important role at the club, when Maxi leaves (it's probably his last season). Him and Downing could operate either wing, as I still dont feel comfortable with Dirk on the wing. He plays so well as a striker.

Considering that Cole is English, proven premiership player and experienced - ticks all the Dalglish boxes right? He has still got it, but just needs a confidence boost and wouldn't have got it here. He is only 29, so he hasn't lost it yet. Experience is vital in the team (you hate to admit it, but man u for better and arsenal for worse have demonstrated its importance).

If NESV wanted him out that bad, they could have sold him right? He clearly isn't happy that things didn't work out, and I think he'd love to set that straight. Lille are a top team, and are a likely to win something this season which would do a world of good for his confidence, in contrast to his shattered confidence at maybe getting a game in a carling cup tie here.

Even the eds said that Cole's move wasn't with a view to a permanent deal.

I don't think Henderson can sit on the right forever, he is naturally center midfielder. Now that competition has freed up for midfield places, it should be interesting.

Just wanted to here your opinions on this
Jacob red

Jacob Red,
BIRD IS THE WORD.

I honestly do not understand the reply here - Jacob red.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 17:32:54
Wow, people on here are so pessimistic, Miereles wanted to leave, Good luck to him, he had the chance to be a part of something special and he blew it for a few more $'s I don't buy in to the club promising him this or that, he signed a contract last year and had his head turned by the offer of a better one at Chelsea, plus was he that great last season, he had a run of about 10 good games where he scored 5 goals, what did he do for the other 40 odd games we played last year? Very little, his work rate isn't great he has little or no physical presence in the centre of the park, his tackling is terrible and if he wanted out of Liverpool now he's obviously a little on the thick side too, people are actually saying we're weaker now, that's crazy talk, we signed 6 outfield players who will all feature for us this season and we got rid of 14 of whom 1 would have featured(Miereles mostly from the bench) with another 2 or 3(Cole, Ngog, Greek) on the fringes. We are far stronger than this time last year and I can't wait for our next game. Rant over!

Gman82

 

 

01 Sep 2011 16:55:15
Hey Ed's can use please tell me what was the point of selling meireles for 12 million pounds? like seriously i think its a big FACT that he was forced out of the club because if he was offered a pay rise he would have stayed without a doubt , i would have at least been a little happy if we got sturridge or anelka or something but we only got 12 mil pounds and who we gunna get in jan window with that money ? I hope we are saving a lot of money for an marquee signing like eden hazard or xabi alonso or etc next season because i think we sold raul to pay up some players salaries!! {Ed001's Note - are you for real? He wanted to go, so we got our money back for a lightweight midfielder who was only going to sit on our bench this season. Give up with the marquee nonsense, this isn't a computer game, we will buy players to improve the squad, not so you can have a name on the back of your shirt.}

Well said 0001!

Spot on Ed 001 - Miereles was lightweight and his value was only going to go down at his age sitting on the bench. On top of that, Bellamy will be far more effective as a sub than Raul ever could be as he offers pace.
As for all this nonsense about marquee signings, if you can't see where we've come from in just 12 months and where we going in every aspect of the club, then I suggest you stick to Football Manager and you can sign anyone you want,(or support Man City.) It's about progress and believe me, there are plenty out there who fear what's going on at Anfield.

Evs the Red

Great reply ed. Sums up how lots of us feel. Have you been holding that in for long?
Red Steve {Ed001's Note - just a bit!}

Plus it is a little weird for a grown man to wear another mans name on the back of his shirt.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 16:51:51
Will Liverpool get Adam Johnson this season I'm sure well get him .

Wishful thinking mate

 

 

01 Sep 2011 16:50:00
hi eds i read , on this site yesterday , that we were going after 4 players , i think it said ,all in the posistion. can you tell us who they were please thanks steviep48 {Ed001's Note - they were all back up options in case the Bellamy deal didn't go through, I don't know any more than that.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 17:20:13
Thought I would just say for all the greef DC got when he first came to Lfc. I think he has done a grand job with the in's and out's. well done damien comolli. king kenny is s legend.
Matty b

You can't make judgements on players who so far have come in yet.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 17:02:28
Sad to see Raul go, but he did request the transfer, and one has to respect that. I certainly wish him well. Still believe we need a right winger to provide width and supply, but that said I am very satisfied with the squad as it is. Now for a serious and competitive season.
Shankly's Red Army..

 

 

01 Sep 2011 16:42:13
I take it then, with Raul being allowed to leave, that we can finally dispense with all the "Gerrard will never play again" blah blah stories ?
OK ?
The Real KB

I saw him in a restuarant on B/H Monday and he suggested he'd be back this month, fingers crossed

Of course not - we are seeking a replacement for Gerrard especially in the heads of the zombies!

Gerrard is for the knackers yard he must be glue by now?

Infact we are already planning who are possibles in the next transfer window to replace Gerrard.

Actually with all the scews holding up his mucles Lego might bid for Gerrard?


Don't ruin the good soap opera about Gerrard, if you do the zombies will be unhappy and the Ed's will not publish your reply God forbid we upset the zombies!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 15:37:46
Will people stop saying we have first refusal on hazard. its not true and it just fills the site with pointless rumors and false hope lille have even said there is no deal so thats the end if it.

Karlose

People just need to think about it. We loan Joe Cole to Lille, LOAN, L-O-A-N for one season which means that in return we get one of their best players and our player back. Wow, all from the Ligue 1 champions.

Mr.Sarcastic

But we're still paying 2/3rds of Coles wages. Just because we have first option on Hazard doesn't mean we'll sign him, just that we'll be informed of any bids and given the opportunity to top it.

Martin

 

 

01 Sep 2011 16:23:48
Ed I know we have to pay a % of Coles wages with Lille but did we get any money from them for the loan {Ed009's Note - Nope.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 16:05:02
Glad Bellamy is back,so i went and bought a new lfc shirt with bellamy on the back in liverpool today and i couldn't believe the reaction from the public with people stopping and talking about the transfer it was well good,cheers pk.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 15:32:38
Look at the difference in the 25 man squads from 2010/11 to 2011/12, AMAZING work by Kenny and Comolli
2010/11:Hodgson

Reina,Jones

Johnson,Darby
Carragher,Skrtel,Agger, Kyrgiakos
Konchesky,Aurelio

Cole,Maxi
Gerrard,Lucas,Poulsen,Meireles
Babel,Jovanovic

Torres,Kuyt,Ngog

2011/12:King Kenny

Reina,Doni

Johnson,Kelly
Carragher,Skrtel,Agger,Coates
Enrique,Aurelio

Henderson,Maxi
Gerrard,Lucas,Adam,Spearing
Downing,Bellamy

Carroll,Suarez,Kuyt

DanTheRedMan

 

 

01 Sep 2011 15:32:24
i think we done some great buisiness in this window... the siging of bellanmy on a free was a great spot i think he will relish working under kenny also i think we could see him partner up with carroll alot and maybe suarez and kuyt could be our main partnership.. now instead of seeing the likes of ngog and poulsen coming off the bench we have bellamy, carroll? even kuyt or maxi, spearing our squad depth is great id like to see some youngsters being pushed through this season the likes of suso, sterling adam morgan i think have a very bright future, dont forget keeny seems to reli like shelvey aswell

 

 

01 Sep 2011 15:28:39
Ed, I would like to echo the sentiments of other fans regarding the quality of great information this site has supplied not only yesterday but throughout the entire window. You guys should take a bow. I heard you had record breaking stats yesterday and that a reflection on all your hard work. The LFC eds have been awesome (001,002 and 009) and a special shout out to Macca for his astute input from obviously great sources.

While handing out plaudits, Kenny and Damian have done a wonderful job in this window. The squad looks strong and balanced. It is experienced and has got a nice youthful appearance about it. I believe we are a year or 2 from harvesting our own future superstar talent and if we can keep that conveyor belt generating those 2/3 players per year year then our financial balance sheet will become even healthier.

We are ready now for the season where domestic honours are the the goals on 3 fronts. Top 3 is very doable but there's no reason with a bit of luck why we couldn't win it all.
I had a hectic day yesterday as it was end of the month and had a big push with quotas for monthly bonus's and quarterly bonus's. I checked in probably 15-20 times via the mobile site so huge props to Ed having that available. Great day all around. Cheers,

Chi-Paul {Ed001's Note - we did have double the hits we managed last transfer deadline day, the Liverpool site having the most of all the single club sites. So thank you everyone who visited!}

How many Ed? Just being nosey

KopEndDannyLFC {Ed001's Note - 1.34m page views.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 15:24:46
01 Sep 2011 13:37:20

Reds/Eds


Apart from Google Crome (which is a bit stop-start) does anyone know where you can get good streaming for live matches, I remember someone had posted details on one before which cost a few quid per month??


REDNOSE {Ed002's Note - www.soccertvlive.net/}

............

www.liveonlinefooty.com
£6 for 60 days very good streaming
Also shows all the pay per view events on sky.

LAVERS

Myp2p how everygme

Google Chrome is a web browser, not a streaming site.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 15:12:40
The last part of Roy Hodgson's legacy has truley been wiped from the liverpool histroy books this summer, ALL of his signings going on to play for other clubs. What a waste of time lat summer was then.

Did hodgson sign shelvey? Still got potential

Rafa signed Shelvey I believe.

RedSG

Dani wilson?

Kaizer

 

 

01 Sep 2011 15:09:08
Hi eds this was my first transfer window on your site it was great you guys do a wonderful job.I was lmpressed with how the liverpool management cleared the books of the players they considered surplus to requirements and of course their signings all in all very good business,(godin)

 

 

01 Sep 2011 15:01:07
So , after all that , only 19 players left at the club who qualify for the 25 man squad .

It shows what faith the boss has in Flanagan , Robinson ,
Coates , Henderson , Coady , Kelly , Wilson and Shelvey ,
none of whom can be named , of course .

Interestingly , we only have 11 foreign players in our 19 man squad , the limit being 17 , so we were not even close on that score .

Finally , apart from the fantastic performance by Mr Comolli
and his staff , what about the work of the editors on this site ..... superb !

Ritters

The limit on foreign players is currently 17 but expect that to be lowered over the next few years. I see it coming to rest at about 12, roughly half of the 25 man squad. And I think it's brilliant we have so much fait in our youngsters. The media is so in love with United's young players (Smalling, Jones, Cleverly, Welbeck) that they don't realise we have a very similar youth component to our team (Kelly, Coates, Henderson, Carroll)

Red Ollie

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:55:53
This is not a moan but im a little worried that we lack a bit of depth of quality in C.M field. Anyone else think so?. Thought Meiriles gave us an option that we dont have with the rest of C.M field. No complianing that he went just that we should of got a replacement in, we had known of the transfer request well before it was anounced at 22;30 last night.

 

 

01 sep 2011 14:50:36
ed do you think there is a chance we could bring someone in on loan in order to replace meireles as they didn't have time to find a permenant replacement? {ed001's note - no, we replaced him at the beginning of the window, he was on the bench for a reason.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:42:06
stoke are a tough team to play against and long ball at that with crouch in there team that wont be changing have a feeling kenny might play 3 at the back to give some protection against there height.

.............................REINA.....................
.............COATES..CARRAGHER..SKRTEL........
...FLANAGHAN...................................ENRIQUE
.........................LUCAS...ADAM....................
......KUYT........................................DOWNING
.............................CARROLL........................

SUBS
DONI..AGGER....SPEARING
HENDERSON..KUYT..SUAREZ..BELLAMY

5 Defenders is bad against any club, especially defensive teams like Stoke and especially when Suarez is sacrificed!

Adam

I don't see him dropping Agger unless he's injured, and I think Kelly will be back by then. Suarez will surely play, it's important to get the ball on the ground against teams like Stoke. We should be wary of their threat but not overly cautious, we'll dominate possession and will need more creativity in the side, not more defenders. I wouldn't be surprised to see us line up like this:

Reina
Kelly--Carragher--Agger--Enrique
Lucas--Adam
Bellamy--Henderson--Downing
Suarez

Lots of creative players in there, Bellamy and Downing can run at the defence, Adam can play the balls in behind, Henderson can pick the ball up just behind the attack and Suarez will be Suarez. There's an outside chance Gerrard and Johnson will return on the bench as well

Red Ollie

If fit kenny seems to want to play carroll as loan front man so be it 5.2.3 or 4.2.3.1 bet yousuarez doesnot start the stoke game.

Reina
Skrtel - Carra - Agger - Enrique
Henderson - Lucas - Adam
Suarez - Carroll - Downing

He played 3 at the back last season against stoke and it worked well so think he'll do it again. I assume Uruguay will be playing so Suarez and Coates might be a bit jet-lagged and may be left on the bench.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:34:08
Meireles is no better now than he was in portugal. I guess you can say he has premier league experience, but is also closing in on 29 years old. Most players over 26 decrease in value with age, rather than increase. We had a 'good' solid CM for a year, and it didnt cost us anything, in fact, we made half a million out of it. He played 44 games, scored a few important goals, and we made money.
Stop whining on about us being screwed.
You really think Meireles is worth more than three times Scott Parker (5m)...?
Errrrr, nope.

The Insane
p.s. Well done KD and DC, and to all the Eds.
Great summer, into an even better autum

Meireles and Scott Parker? What are you smoking?? Meireles was the starting CM in Portugal's star studded team. Scott Parker couldn't even get into a pretty ordinary english team ahead of a pretty ordinary Gareth Barry. Tool

Scott parker is a joke dont even come close to meireles

Scot parker has been a consistent midfielder for several years were as meireles bottled every 50 50 tackle he needed to win ye he scored a few goals but if parker was from portugal he would be on the team sheet every game getting our money back and some great job Kenny & Damian

Scott Parker was the Football Writers player of the year last year. Calling him a joke just shows your ignorance.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:28:40
Ref Owners Spends - I am happy we have who we have and this article should / will set peoples minds at rest. (sorry for the copy/paste couldnt be bothered to retype)

Eds please post and fellow Reds please take the time to read as it will explain all myths etc from the media.

LFC1


THE GREAT NET SPEND ROPE TRICK (AND MORE MONEYBALLS)

by Rob Gutmann


BACK in the dark days, when a Texan tyrant roamed free in the 2nd city of Empire, debt was the new black, and Liverpool football club was hurtling towards a never imagined abyss, its chief financier and ultimate unlikely knight in shining armour, the Royal Bank of Scotland, imposed upon the club the first in a series of double agents.

Christian 'Cecil' Purslow was the initial appointment the bank charged with unofficially watching their backs, as they, like Liverpool's by then bereft supporters, began to have more than serious concerns about the errant decision making of evil capitalist caricatures, Tom Hicks and George Gilette.

To cut a confused and long story short, 'Cecil' Purslow came, saw, and tried vainly to financially restructure the club to the bank's order. He shed his pinstripes for a tracksuit, deluded himself he was as much director of football as hired gun accountant, and made himself Gary Neville level popular on the Kop, before ultimately allying himself to the small band of corporate assassins who contrived the legendary 'epic swindle' that finally rid Liverpool football club of the two headed behemoth from across the Atlantic.



Cecil slayed the dragon(s), his epitaph will read. When he gets round to writing it.

Christian Purslow finally, and quietly, exited the scene of his crimes, misdemeanours, and perhaps grudging redemption, last winter. Gone from a club and a community that would forever associate him with their darkest hours rather than the glory of their resurrection.

Tough luck Cecil. You came, you saw. You merited a banner depicting a big cock with your name on it, courtesy of the Kop. You got very well paid , and you got to pump your fist outside the big court house in that London. The end. The people, have now retired your memory.

So why bring Purslow back out of his box again ? Simply, because of something the man once said. Something, one of many things, he got it in the neck for. It seemed rightly so at the time, and thus far it's been cast into the dustbin of Hicks/Gillett era soundbite history (along with 'a spade in the ground in 60 days' and 'blow me f*** face'). Consigned to dust, until now. Watch out. Here comes the revival of Cecil Purslow's much derided 'player account' world view.

Before the summer of 2009 we, as humble football folk, had satisfied ourselves with the neat lay accountancy analysis that concluded that seeking to improve your team by investing in it, meant that you had to be spending more in transfer fees for new players than you were recouping from the proceeds of the sales of those players no longer required.

When pressed by fans and journalists to account for Liverpool FC's nil net transfer fee spend in the summer of '09, Purslow directed inquisitors in the direction of that maligned 'player account'section of the club's published accounts. He argued that although the club had spent 'fanny all' (I'm paraphrasing) on transfer fees that close season it had heavily invested in new contracts for star players, including Gerard, Alonso, Kuyt and Torres.

As ever more weary and cynical fans, we were having none of it. Wages are wages, and transfer spend is quite another thing. Equating the two, seemed on the surface, to be quite frankly a piss take. You judged a club's commitment to its manager, its team and its future by how much it was prepared to fork out for fees on new players.

The problem is, that that simple and neat correlation has become ever increasingly obsolete as top level wages have begun, in relative terms, to outstrip transfer fees.

Now, it is becoming apparent in a changing economic climate in professional football, that as supporters and judges of managers and players, We've got to get our heads around what 'net spend' truly means. It has become clear that, as a quick label, this traditional short hand measure is increasingly irrelevant, without regard to wages.

The most obvious recent example of the folly of looking only to the net fees yardstick has been in the cases of the Andy Carroll and Kun Aguero headline making transfers. Much of the media and many fans noted the parity in the respective £35m prices on these players heads, and rushed to the judgement that Aguero, as the proven world star, was clearly the better buy.

It was implicit that Liverpool (Dalglish/Comolli/FSG) had 'dropped one' in spending so much on the relatively raw potential of Carroll when for the same price they could have had the likes of the proven Aguero. The truth is, though, that whilst the fees for these two strikers were the same, the Argentinian Kun picks up around £10m a year in salary, whilst our Geordie Andy sees something closer to a much more modest £3m per annum.

Therefore, after the fees have been paid, Aguero will cost Manchester City around a further £50m over the life of his contract, compared to the c.£15m Carroll will cost Liverpool. No comparison then in the scale of the wage deals.

Successive managers at the likes of Liverpool, Arsenal and Man united may point to their modest net transfer spends in recent years, whilst studiously ignoring the growth in investment in their wage bills.

Home grown talent such as Steven Gerrard or Ryan Giggs may pleasingly show up as a nil net transfer fee cost, but the growth in the size of their pay packets down the years tells a different story. Let's guestimate that Stevie G's new 5 year contract of 2009 cost the club a further £60k a week, to bring him into line with his well paid England colleagues at clubs like Chelsea. The cost of that deal, then, is akin to LFC paying a transfer fee of £15m (£3m per year x 5 years) just to retain one of their own players.

Of course, the wage cost factor cuts in both directions, and we are seeing a clear manifestation of that at LFC this summer. When FSG took power at Anfield last autumn, John Henry and co. were at pains to make an observation that became somewhat lost in the clamour to ascertain 'how much' they were preparing to spend on a 'transfer war chest'.

Henry noted that the club's wages were far too high. Well, he qualified that, by noting that they were high (and this is the key bit) relative to value. This was a marker to a fundamental FSG (Moneyball influenced) maxim – it ain't about what you pay, but that the value attained ultimately exceeds cost.

This approach has governed LFC transfer policy all summer long. It's why there was a preparedness to apparently 'overpay' for the likes of Carroll, Henderson and Downing, why the likes of Wickham and Clichy appeared to price themselves out of moves to Anfield, and ultimately why LFC have been patient in waiting until the pricing is 'just so' before closing a deal on players like Adam and Enrique.

The FSG/Moneyball war cry appears to be that 'it will not be the market that will tell us what a player's worth, we will dictate to it!'.Your average punter or media 'expert' will tell anyone and everyone that Stewart Downing was worth no more than £14-15m, tops. The Comolli computer, however, says 'no'. In fact it says that the market, the fans and the media are all looking at players through distorted lenses and that only by looking to the correct performance statistics can true value be assessed.

So in FSG/LFC eyes, Downing may well be so effective a player that he'd be a good buy at, say, £25m. Therefore at £18-20m he's a great buy. Get it ?

The critics of Liverpool's transfer policy have indeed made a cause celebre of the Downing transfer and demanded to know 'why buy Downing when rising Spanish star Juan Mata is available for similar money ?'.


Bargain?

Setting aside the obvious answer that those that truly matter and know best may well have concluded that Downing is simply the better player, or at least, the better 'fit' for LFC requirements, there is also the simple fact that the deals for the two players are highly unlikely to be financially comparable.

Downing wil cost LFC about £18m (plus add ons) and about £17m in wages over the life of his 5 year contract – a total package cost of £35m then. Mata is on the verge of joining Chelsea for about £25m we hear. If his wages attract the premium that big inter European deals seem to these days we could safely estimate that a 5 year wage deal for Mata could set Chelsea back about £25m. Therefore whilst Mata is costing a total of about £50m (transfer fee and wages added together), Downing looks a lot cheaper option at £35m all in.

Back at the old fashioned net-spend-ometer, fans and pressmen alike are looking at FSG's gross spend of £105m since January, with about £58m recouped in sales, and concluding that they are entitled to heap big pressure on the Liverpool manager and team to deliver the improvement to match the boldness of that investment.

Yet, if we apply the correct measure of net investment that includes the wage factor, just how bold has this summer's LFC transfer activity actually been ?

Here follows some broad brush stoke sums, and apologies to all implicated and to accountants everywhere for the crudeness of this analysis :



LFC players signed since Jan 2011

Andy Carroll, Luis Suarez, Doni, Charlie Adam, Jose Enrique, Jordan Henderson, Stewart Downing, Coates

Total Gross fees(approx): £112m

Estimated total annual wages for new signings : £23m per annum

If we assume each player contract is for 5 years, we can then amortise the cost of their transfer fees by dividing them by 5, to give us an annual gross cost for the new signings : –

Annual cost of transfer fees (£112m over 5 years) = £22m

Annual cost of new player wages = £23m

Therefore gross total annual cost of this summer's transfer activity = £45m

LFC players departed since Jan 2011 and likely to be gone by 31st August

Fernando Torres, Ryan Babel, Jovanovic, Alberto Aquilani, Paul Konchesky, David Ngog, Nabil El Zahr, Danny Pacheco, Ayala, Philip Degen, Joe Cole, Christian Poulsen, Brad Jones

Total estimated gross fees recouped : £72m

Estimated annual wage savings : £32m

Again, if we amortise the fees by the 5 year average contract length, the annual fee recouped figure = c.£14m

Annual wages saved (as above) = £32m

Therefore gross total annual cost of monies recouped this summer = £46m



So, and here's the big reveal, our true, as near-as-dammit, estimated crudely, yet probably not miles out, best approximation for net spend by LFC this summer is…….wait for it…….(drum roll) …. minus £1m.

One whole million pounds (give or take a million or two)in credit. That's the real likely 'price' of what in actuality will have been a nigh-on revolutionary turning over of the Liverpool squad.

By August 31st, of the players we will have released, only one contributed to the first team squad in any significant way last season (Fernando Torres). The rest will not have amassed enough premiership starts between them to be equivakent to more than one more player's worth of loss (Babel, Jovanovic, Konchesky, Ngog, Cole and Poulsen).

Yet on the other side of the assessment, we've added arguably 6 players, who are all very likely to fill first 11 positions. That's half a dozen new first teamers in, with effectively two going the other way, and all for the princely sum of one million pounds.

A trick of the light ? Smoke and mirrors ? Sleight of hand ? Nope, just solid good old fashioned smartness. It's an astute business turn


Smoke & Mirrors?

around and needs to be seen as that in itself, regardless of the vagaries of the fickle hand of fate as yet to be revealed (like, all the new players may 'turn out to be s**t').

Come next May, be we 1st, 4th or 14th , praise or criticism will be apportioned, but let no man deem that the measure against which judgement may fall, be measured against the context that Liverpool FC have been profligate 'spenders' this summer. They simply haven't been.

John Henry vowed last year that his Liverpool would live within their means, and only spend the revenue the club self generated. Damaged by the absence of that valuable commodity 'the truth' during the Hicks/Gillett years, some LFC fans feared that Henry's proclamation was a short hand for 'we ain't putting any of our own money in'. In fact, he's been more faithful to his other oft quoted mantra of autumn 2010, 'we will under promise and over deliver'.

Henry and FSG have clearly delivered this summer. Although it is reasonable to assert that they will have engineered an effective 'nil' net spend, in a book balancing sense, by the time the transfer window shuts, there is no doubt that they have also provided the short term cash required to allow LFC to move swiftly and decisively in securing the key new recruits.

This provision of necessary cash resources at a crucial phase in the club's development is a key marker to the future. It demonstrates that the new ownership is well resourced and will be primed and able to make the big decisions in the next phase of 'drafting' in that will surely follow next summer.

LFC have astutely re-aligned and remodelled a defective squad using the guile and methodology of a financially sound approach – the 'Financially fair' way. There is a real sense that this is only the beginning. Something special is stirring at Anfield.

Quality post.

Awesome post..... Post of the week in my eyes thanks for the insight . Justin

Thanks for posting this. Makes sense, as does Liverpools transfer business in the last 2 windows. Now we just have to hope FFP is properly applied.
Red Steve

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:24:36
How much did Liverpool receive from all the sales> Can you provide a breakdown of the players, the fee involved and roughly the wage per week saved. Think it would be interesting reading:
Jovanovic -
Kyriakos -
Ngog -
Poulson -
Cole -
Meireles -
Aqualini -
Degen -

Did i miss anyone?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:23:01
I've read Macca's posts everytime,never really commented on them. Thought some were obvious to start with but soon changed my opinion. Whoever Macca is in my opinion, defo knows/is someone who is seriously ITK. I'm a pretty cynical person, prefer dogs and animals to people, can count on 1 hand the folks i trust in my life. But come on,this guy's strike rate and how early he gets things in aint a coincidence anymore. I dont belive in them anyhow. Never posted it before but Macca its been a joy reading your posts whoever you are pal i hope you keep em coming. Jonson6

Yep I posted similar earlier. Remember, we don't know who Macca is. He might be putting his, or someone else's, neck on the block with the club giving us all info.
The Real KB

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:19:09
We shall see if Meireles will be missed, come December.

My bet is that he will be missed.

I forsee Bellamy injured and Stevie G still having injury problems.

There will be a distinct lake of creativity about the team. Suarez cannot do it all.

-The Devil's Advocate

Dear dear, who's got out of the wrong side of the bed today ?
The Real KB

Yes he can

I bet your the life and soul of every party

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:17:45
Putting that it was August 31st on the official site yesterday was actually a smokescreen for August the 30th. Kenny and Comolli have fooled everyone into thinking the window has closed with all their interviews about the end of the transfer window, and their smokescreen has worked a treat. Today is actually August 31st, not 1st September so we will sign Neymar, Pato, Johnson, Sneijder, Messi and Aguero. [Wibble]Conspiracy theory[/wibble]

You have issues lol

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:22:41
I no this is wishful thinking but did I hear correct last night that the window shuts for seven days then players can be loaned in and out? If this is correct could it be possible that we could loan a. Johnson with the view to buy in January if we made a offer to city they could not refuse? I no this is probably a massive massive long shot, can anyone shed some light on the subject.
On the other hand so pleased with the dealings over the summer the team looks fantastic and can't wait to watch 11 men play as a team and work together and positive attacking football unlike this time last year.
Just like to thank the ed's for there fantastic job over the last couple of months great job
James St ives

According to Wikipedia , clubs in the leagues from the Championship to the Conference can loan in players between 08 September and 25 November .

No loan deals in to the Premiership after 31 August ( except emergency goalkeepers ) .

Ritters

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:05:51
Not sure why people are so worried about the price tags. Unless the spending coincides with price increases for tickets and merch it's John Henry's money being spent and not yours. I don't see United fans moaning about paying big fees for Young, Jones, or DeGea. Maybe it's because those guys (with the exception of DeGea) have started off looking pretty good on the pitch. Not sure if the complainers have looked up from their accounting ledgers long enough to see that our new guys are doing pretty well too. This moaning about prices and sales ("Why would we sell Meireles to Chelsea?" etc.) is suggestive of an inferiority complex that no LFC fan should ever entertain. We are ten times the club Man U will ever be, regardless or circumstances or hype. We are hundreds of times the club that Chelsea has ever dreamed of being. That is the reality of LFC; forget what classless backstabbers like Torres have to say. If you put so much stock in their words, you may as well abandon loyalty and support whichever club won the last trophy.

Now, I'm not blind; it is, for one thing, clear that Carroll has yet to really come around but it's clear he has the ability to do so. KD and staff just need to find a way to get him in stride and when that happens he'll be a force. But, perhaps, for some reason he won't come around. If that's the case we will let him leave and wish him well. These things happen in football sometimes (remember Juan Sebastian Veron?). When it does happen you shrug your shoulders and move on. It's clear that we're not pinning all our hopes on him and even though he is yet to perform consistently, the team has greatly improved in terms of players and form since we acquired him.

Finally, I am actually disappointed to see Meireles go, as I quite like him as a player. The thing is, he was never going to be above Stevie G in the pecking order, and with Henderson on board he would have struggled for playing time. I know people would say he did enough last year to get more minutes than Henderson will. Perhaps so, but there's no point in buying a promising young player and then failing to develop him. KD clearly understands the importance of youth and has demonstrated in the transfer market and with his attitude to our own youth players. And, contrary to what some people here have claimed, he is not a 20M pound player. He had a very good spell in the middle of the year for us but that does not equate to a 20M price tag. What we got for him was a fair rate.

That's all I have to say for now. Peace out.

Problem is if Gerrard cant stay fit we are short of quality central midfielders

Maybe it was wishful thinking but for the last 15 minutes when carrol came on against Bolton he seemed to be dropping deeper trying to get involved in the passing/ holding of the ball, he's not a veteran of the game he still has a lot to learn and I'm 100 percent he will, with dalglish kuyt and now Bellamy for him to learn from he's only going to get better!
Lfcmatt

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:04:56
Hi

Sorry about omitting Degen and including Bijev as an out. Sincere apologies.

Hopefully we can now all support our club, owners, manager, director of football and one another.

Remember this team is "OUR TEAM".
It's built for us the fans, support them and the sky is the limit.

Remember this saying "Reap what you sow".

My advice to the fans
You must know and remember your players,
Love the players and club, irrespective,
Have complete faith in the players and club,
and only then will they become all that you hope for.

"Mission 19"

YNWA-SA

 

 

01 Sep 2011 14:03:12
I have it on very good authority that LFC wont sign anyone else until January 2012. You heard it here first!

Joe

Must be clairevoyant lol, they obviously can't sign anyone til jan 2012

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:54:36
LFC have had an excellent transfer period. Well done. Strengthened all areas on the pitch and provided new options for team tactics.
Looking at the squad there is now only one player currently at Melwood who you could consider 'deadwood'. (Should be finally gone next summer at the latest.) I'll let you guess his name.

PS...Philipp Degen, for those who missed it, was hiding in the cupboard under the stairs behind the vacuum cleaner. Kenny found him at 10.55pm and then it was game over!

I heard he handcuffed himself to a pipe underneath the stairs and so any team that now signs him will receive a large section of pipe to boot.

And by utter coincidence, a new record for the longest game of hide and seek has been set in England. The world record is considerably longer.

Jolly Red

I generally have no idea who; maybe Joe Cole but I have had a mind blank.

Signed Ben

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:53:22
If i am correct nearly ALL the games Meireles started he never finished due to 'injury' or a 'knock' etc. he has skill but he is toooooooo lightweight for premiership.. I think Chelski got another Torres kinda deal.. Once Gerrard supremo and Glen Johnson are back then we have an amazing squad....with further improvements in january I am sure. :)

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:50:27
the only reason meriles wantd to leave because he has a great respect with the chelsea manager from the days in porto. he wanted to reunite himself with his friend.

im upset because i though besides gerrard he was our best midfielder

{Ed002's Note - He only played a handful of games whilst AVB was at Porto - they overlapped by a couple of months only.}

Still had respect with each other though ed002,

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:44:54
just been watching ssn
and they going on about net spend and according to them we are 4th with 34.5 million so basically andy carrol. so not too bad really

and with players going it will bring us in to break even and thats what we need to do idealy in the long term dont want us to run the club into the ground. like man city and chelsea if there owners decide to leave they would be in trouble

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:37:20
Reds/Eds

Apart from Google Crome (which is a bit stop-start) does anyone know where you can get good streaming for live matches, I remember someone had posted details on one before which cost a few quid per month???

REDNOSE {Ed002's Note - www.soccertvlive.net/}

Footballalive.com is also good as they have a highlights of all premier league goals up soon after streams. streams are HD too.

Chi-Paul

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:26:49
Maarten Stekelenburg, Erik Lamela, Fernando Gago, Miralem Pjanic, Bojan Krkic, Simon Kajaer & Jose Angel ....... A.S. Roma did some cracking business this window. All very "moneyball" esque signings too......and Liverpool targets according to some people.

Am I right in saying that the owner of Roma has something to do with F.S.G or N.E.S.V ? Hope there's not some form of collusion going on that'll come back to bite us in the arse.

-Shane.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:20:59
Hi Eds, loving your work... Macca says we're now staying at anfiled with capacity increasing to @60K and no changes to either the Kop or Centenary upper - that is about 17K seats. If Annie Road was same as Kop that would be another 12K ... don't know how you could fit more into the Centenary lower if upper is unchanged - about 7K, which means main stand would have to house 24K!!

Source?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:19:09
And the replacement for Raul Meireles ........ Steven Gerrard !! Bet you forgot sbout him didn't you !!
Cheers
IrishRed.
(email attached!)

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:17:35
So who was the surprise signing heh!!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 13:08:03
Would just like to sat a big thankyou to the eds for keeping us all up to speed aswell as macca! An if they know if gerrard is actuallt training now? Ie... has he actually kicked a ball? Cheers lafs :)

BigRed

 

 

01 Sep 2011 12:46:01
Im sitting here and reading all the posts about meireles and how wonderful a player he is. Did anybody watch him play recently he wanders in and out of every game he plays, can't tackle and never ever chases after the ball when he looses it and he looses it quite a lot. He complains that he is not getting enough money but he earns £40,000 a week which i don't earn in a year and wants an improved contract because of what was promised by last years owners. Personally i think the club did a great bit of business getting rid of him £12m for a bit player not bad. Also all you fans who say we paid £10m for this and £8m for that since when is it coming out of your pocket it coming out of the yanks so let say well done to them for getting us out of the hole we were in last year and support our GREAT club with some passion and pride.
Here to hopefully a great season and also lay off our players after all they are OUR players

Agree with most of your post apart from the use of the word 'Yanks'. The amazing Americans have saved us and should be treated with the utmost respect. They own our beloved club and have shown commitment to put us back to the top. Have some frigging respect.

Take it your a Yank then?, the guy is not being disrespectful to the Americans he's praising them, so don't take it personal mate, they tend to call us Brits not British do we get upset? no but as the song goe's-Yankee Doodle went to town riding on a pony. Stuck a feather in his hat. And called it macaroni :-)

Completely agree with you. Let's not forget that those "Yanks" baught a club that was crippeld by dept on the verge to go bankrupt! What did they do? We are deptfree!!! They have spent an enormous amount of money for this club already. I can't understand people moaning about them not doing a Man City........
Onassis

In fact no, I'm not an American, I'm English. I guess you can't teach a dog new tricks just as you can't teach some people manners. Brit is short for British, whereas Yank has other meanings. Do some research you peasant.

Yank is short for Yankee's, you know generally people from New York get that term so they aren't really Yanks.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 12:42:40
My transfer window analysis:
This transfer window has been very successful in my eyes. The players that have joined are all hard working and want to play for us, and those that have left were either deadwood or didn't want to play for us. We have saved a great deal in wages without decreasing squad strength
Ins:
Sebastien Coates-5m-CB: Amazing, composed cb with the world at his feet
Jordan Henderson-16m-CM/RM: England U21 vice captain, hard worker, has an eye for a pass and has an engine
Stewart Downing-20m-LW/RW: Former Middlesborough Captain, pacey winger that can shoot and cross to perfection
Charlie Adam-7m-CM/LM: Former B'pool captain, Great passer and shooter, isn't afraid of tackling
Doni-?m-GK: Good international backup keeper
Jose Enrique-7m-LB: Tall, strong, solid, pacy left back who can cross extremely well
Bellamy-FREE-LW/ST/RW: Great pacy striker that can play on either wings, great hard working backup

Outs:
El Zhar-released: deadwood
Konchesky-rubbish, 1.5M in the bag
Jovanovic-Sorry it didn't work out for him, but 60k per week saved in wages :D
Ayala-Sorry for him, but he wasn't good enough
Kyrgiakos- Getting old and clumsy, good luck at Wolfsburg, never moaned, just got on with his football
Pacheco-Needs to work harder for a place, let's hope he returns a new player!
Insua-Not good enough for us
J.Cole-Please return next season and prove to us why you were dubbed the english messi! (:S)
Poulsen-What can I say. Thank god we got rid of another 60k.
Ngog- Gd luck at bolton mate, tried your hardest when on the pitch, scoring a few, but you weren't good enough for us
Degen-DEADWOOD
Raul- see ya raul, obviously didn't learn from the torres incident, sad to see him go, but he won't be missed
Aqua- Also sad to see him go, but he didn't want us so he had to leave

Great window for us
YoungRed

 

 

01 Sep 2011 12:30:23
Hello Ed(s), just wondering if there were any players that we were interested in/looking at but left it to late to make a move for? And any other players we wanted rid of but ended up staying? Finally what was our net after this summer how much exactly did we spend and recoup?

Thanks
{Ed002's Note - It is impossible to say the spend because I have no idea how much was spent on paying players off. I don't know of any moves which failed due to time constraints.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 12:25:57
Manchester United have posted record operating profits of £110.9m for the past financial year . The club have also recorded a record revenue of £334.1m - an increase of £45m from last year and passing £300m for the first time - according to figures for the year ending 30 June 2011.

This is biggest task in hand for LFC.for regular titles year on year we must get close to ManU in income department.
Extra capacity and more corparate boxes will go long way in solving this task.
New sponsership deals will also help.
We are as JWH said still years behind ManUtd on this parameter.just look at their new deal with DHL.

We must learn good things from our rivals.
Once we were benchmarks now goal post has been shifted ahead.

A weak ago LFC just opened its first acadamy in india.

We have begin the journey and I am sure we will be at top soon.
No matter how many highs and lows I know for sure many of us will stay part of this red family.

Red till last breath.LFC red.

Red indian

 

 

01 Sep 2011 12:24:33
why dont we sell
carroll -40m
lucas- 15m
cole-5m
in jan
then add an extra sixty m then buy messi for 120

40 million for Carroll he aint worth 10

Erm no...but fifa 12's released on the 30th september you know...
YoungRed

Haha are you for real?....seriously!.

Anyway Messi buyout is something like 250 mill, plus he would never leave Barca imo.

Isn't Cole loaned out for the season?, sell Lucas!?, Carroll 40Mil?.

When was the last time you slept? i think all the excitement of deadline day has fried your brain matey haha :)

*Pobs*

'40 million for Carroll he aint worth 10'
Even though it's free, I feel like i've paid too much for your idiotic opinion
Milamber

*facepalm*

 

 

01 Sep 2011 12:21:15
looking for 2-4 tickets for the away game at spurs ,any 1 help,my lads bthday

Www.thomascooksport.com/Football/Premier.../Liverpool-FC

copy and paste the link

Raj

 

 

01 Sep 2011 12:11:56
Appently we are saving over 30million on wages with the players we have got rid of. to me thats good bussiness. it means when we get top 4 if not win the premiership we can go for even bigger name players. ok we have over spent on some other players. but we needed too. and we are getting a base of brittish players. and they seem to be fitting in well.and if we all honest we rather have a brittish core of players i know i would with a few good forigne players fitting in with them.

the future is bright and the future is red of merseyside

 

 

01 Sep 2011 12:09:21
good-bye miereles....just 1 thing before u go!!....the grass isnt always greener when u leave LFC....ash torres and benayoun hehe.....Sugar-red

And ask Alonso who has won just a spanish cup and Mascherano who is picking p kit for Puyol, Piqeut and Pedro or Owen whose wife sleeps with Giggs for the EPL medal he won last year.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 12:09:18
All,

Some hot info just been passed to me from a very reliable collegue which matches Macca's news earlier this week. It appears that amongst the vast doubt, the owners along with the council have finally reached an agreement to further develop Anfield to a capacity around the 60k mark. I don't know the full details however I do know the process will take approximately 3 years to complete and will begin as soon as the full plans and relevant documentation/clearance is completed. Expect the an official anouncement within the next few weeks.

Regards,

MJS.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:59:25
liverpool should have give bellemy the number 10 shirt joe cole's number. would have that been possable ????

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:55:20
I dont give a feck who he played for but to compare Jelovic to Henrik Larsson is the worst comparison i've ever seen. It must be April fools day. Comparing those 2 is like comparing Merieles to Vinny Jones in the tackling department. Every half decent striker that goes to Scotland from the EPL or championship in Gary Hooper's case goes from 1 in 3 in strike ratio to a goal a game or better. Jonson6

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:48:58
Eds, how do you rate Danny Wilson and Shelvey?

They were recommended by Dalglish I believe, do you think he still rates them and do you think they have a bright future at the club?

Adam {Ed002's Note - I am not convinced by either. But they are young.}

I believe Lucas got loads of stick, now look at him. You forget both lads are only young. You watch them mature into greats.

Both players have potential and will come good, especially with the brand of football that the team is playing now on regular basis.

BooDaBooze

I believe both will have a very bright future. Shelvey played well several times, when called upon and wilson also is in need of some experience. On a day against Exeter, he looked very good. His style is very close to that of Agger, hope, he can learn it from Our big dane. YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:48:25
Sorry to see Cole go would have been a great Back up , has never really had a good run , and he really wanted to play for us

He was given enoug hopportunities. He just didn't spark. Why should we give him more time? Suarez came in without premiership experience and lit the league alight. If Cole had done, he'd have stayed. It's his own fault.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:46:18
ED'S help please!!

If Adam Johnson moved to Stoke on loan,would that of prevented him from making a permanent move to another club in JAN. ie can only play for 2 teams in a season?


REDMAN {Ed002's Note - Yes - but he didn't.}

So thats Johnson and Cahill in come Jan cheers ED02

REDMAN

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:46:11
What a difference a year makes! This has been a great transfer window for Liverpool, we have managed to off-load players who were nowhere near first team standard while signing players of genuine quality such as Adam, Henderson, Enrique and Coates. The dark clouds that hung over the club last year have been lifted and with with Meireles leaving there is no-one left at the club to remind us of that period in our history; not that we should forget it. It should serve as a reminder of what can happen if the wrong people are in charge of our club - wrong owners who appoint wrong managers who buy wrong players.

In my opinion the club was right to sell Meireles due to his lack of tackling ability and drifting in and out of games, I feel the only position he could play was just behind the strikers with no defencive resposability, but who would you leave out to accomodate him? And surely Gerrard plays this position better than anyone while also contributing with tackles and defending. I think apart from one hot-spell during the middle of last year (when he played just behind the striker) Meireles was ordinary. Interesting though that he is the only Roy signing that we have got our money back on.

There is now a genuine feeling of optimism around the club again, we're playing positive attacking football, and we have a strong squad with strength in-dpeth. We have responsible owners with a genuine interest in restoring the club to its past glories, DC helping to identify players to get us there, and KK and his back-room staff who have restored confidence to the team and returned to the Liverpool pass-and-move philosophy.

Thanks you EDs and all the other contributers for making this such an addcitve site - I guess I can get back to work now.

JRG

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:39:25
I doubt very much if this gets posted but here I go this site wud b perfect if it wasn't 4 the muppets that think they are the big I am most of wot I've heard over last month is just shear nonsense give the eds a break lads and post well found rumours gud work to the eds tho cheers ssb

I kind of agree with the sentiments but can I buy a punctuation mark?
Milamber

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:38:55
For the better part of the window my two cents on the upcoming season was that Utd and Chelsea would be the ones vying for the title; City and us to finish third and fourth respectively.

This was predicated on a) the signings I was expecting United and Chelsea to make (Sneidjer and Nasri for the former and Pereira, Pastore/Modric, Fernando and Neymar for the latter),
and b) Mancini continuing his negative, turgid approach to coachin and inability to rein in his charges and curb the inflated egos.

However, it appears that City have come out a lot positive. The shackles off; the emphasis is now on attacking, and the players are absolutely loving it.
There's seemingly a new-found pride among the players.

If it can stay like this, then without doubt City ARE favourites for the title.
Their additions were absolutely spot.

Which brings me to the others of the "Big 6".
Quite frankly, I'm less than thrilled by Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs and- to an extent- United's business this window.
They not as improved as they could've been.

*CHELSEA: Mata, Romeu, Meireles and Lukaku

It was generally accepted end of last season that Chelsea needed to freshen up the side, both age and quality-wize. Spent players, a marked lack of genuine pace round the pitch and invention cost them dearly (their game league loss at Old Trafford very graphically demonstrated this).

Names such as Sanchez, Aguero, Wiel, Modric, Pastore, Neymar, Alvaro Pereira started being mooted as potential solutions.
Certainly, any three of these would've significantly freshened and livened up this ageing Chelsea team.

Yet, none arrived. Of those who did, only Mata immediately and adequately addresses their problems.
Romeu and Lukaku are preparations for the future and won't make any discernible difference to the team.
Meireles will be a back-up at best.

Most of their starters are crocks and/or are old horses on their last legs who've exponentially slowed down.
Terry, Bosingwa, Alex, Gunman, Lampard, Essien, Malouda, Drogba, Anelka.

There are those who gash: Mikel, Kalou, Fereira.
Luiz- though a beauty going forward- is a shocking defender.
Torres is spent. Will occasionally bag them, but not to the extent he did for LFC.

Contrast that with our team. We younger, leaner and fitter, energetic, quick and brimming with ability.

* Pepe's, always has and always will be, better than Cech

*Enrique and Johnson vs Bosingwa/Ivanovic and Gunman- we edge it here... age, pace, talent.

*From what I've seen, Coates' a far excellent defender than Luiz. So once Seb settles in gets into his stride, he and Agger will be a far better pairing than Terry and Luiz, certainly one of the best in Europe.

*Gerrard, Lucas, Adam, Downing, Maxi, Shelvey and Henderson vs Lampard, Essien, Ramires, Meireles, Mikel, Malouda, Romeu and McEchrean. Erm... ok, ok, I'll give it to them.
They've more technically good players and more cover.

*Suarez, Carroll, Kuyt and Bellamy vs Torres, Drogba, Anelka, Mata, Kalou, Sturridge and Lukaku.
Fair to say we edge this on. Fitness, creativity, marksmanship, desire, fight, bite... though Mata will prove a significant coup for them.

Overall, I feel we've a team just as good as, if not marginally better than, Chelsea.
They remain aged, slow and largely bereft of genuine invetion. (See Stoke, West Brom and Norwich games.)

I'm convinced Liverpool can get 3rd at the expense of Chelsea, I really am.
Consistency will do it.
If we can really, really punch, even second isn't unimaginable. Had United got Sneidjer and/or Nasri, maybe it would've been different.
But they didn't, so they not very strong.

Arsenal have only slightly improved, but on the balance, are weaker than they were last season.
Mertasacker's a decent signing; Santos- terrible, terrible player. What was Wenger thinking? Might as well have held on to Kolo Toure's-Missus-Used-To-Cook-Meals-For-Me.
Benayoun and Arteta are poor men's Nasri and Fabregas respectively. Downgrade.
Gervihno and Private Chu Young are certainly good additions.

Fair to say we hell of a lot stronger than the Goons.
I expect they'll be battling it out with Spurs for fifth.

Speaking of Spurs, I think they've buggered up this window.
Friedal, Parker and Adebayor only two first team additions?
Joke!

Parker I don't see taking them to the "next level" they so craving. Adebayor might have had he had the necessary quality round him.
Had they brought in Cahill/Samba, Diarra, Ruiz and Hoaroa in addition to Friedal, Parker and Adabayor, they defo would have given themselves a chance.
Now 6th reckons for them.

So in summary, my two cents' that City will be run close by United for the title; we'll compete for, and likely wrestle 3rd from, Chelsea; Spurs and Arsenal will scramble for the less-palatable bone that is 5th.

Our destiny's in our own hands. To qualify for CL, we won't need other's failings from where I stand following the window.
We have the ability to do it ourselves.

Baie dankie

Burmeister

This is the 2nd time I agree with you Mr Burmeister, what is going on?
John Wigan

Good post man. It's true. I also think we can aim for higher than 4th now! Utd and City both look strong, but it's early days -at this stage last season the media had already given Chelsea the title!

As Kenny would say:

'One game at a time, and lets see where it takes us.'

I love him. Every game is a war now! Everyone knowing if they don't perform their place is under threat - bring on Stoke, I think we can teach them a lesson.

Suarez can destroy any team on earth. He is the one who gives us the edge over the opposition, if he stays fit then who knows how high we can go....

BJH YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:35:10
To me the best part of the transfer was getting rid of Philipp Degen. Degen has to be one of the worst signings EVER for LFC. Typical Swiss rubbish, earning money for doing nothing. I live in Switzerland and know how crap he is. How he ever came to us I will never know!

Poulsen and Cole (loan) just failed to wake up. What a brilliant achievement to get rid of them as well as Soto, El Zhar and Ngog.

Meireles leaving, upsets me because I appreciate the 5 goals he scored for us at crucial times last season. Should we have honoured a pay rise for Meireles? We would have, had we wanted to keep him. He featured for us regularly when we did not have Stevie G, Downing, Adam or Henderson. But now our midfield has strengthed so much that Meireles would only be a bench warmer. I'm sure we told him that he was not wanted any longer and was free to find another club. No hard feelings whatsoever. 12 million for a 28 year old who was a bit weak and would not start every game, great business.

David Ngog: I watched him play when the squad came over to Switzerland for friendlies. He's a really nice guy that always tried his best. He never made a fuss, never acted arogant, never disrespected the club, scored a few goals for us and has left amicably. I have a lot of respect for him. Had he been better, we would have kept him. He knows that and we know that. Bon chance David!

Had FSG not come in, we would be in a very different place right now. Under G&H we were going downhill very fast. It frightens me to think what could have happened to us. We were doomed, yet they came in and, not only did they steady the ship, they resurrected it. We owe it all to them. Kenny, Comolli, Tom, John, David, Philipp, Steve and everyone else deserves big big thanks.

I of course believe that we will win the title this season. I believe that every year. But this year I believe it even more than ever. There is a life to our club that we haven't had in many years. There's a sparkle in our eyes that has been gone for quite a while.

As I said previously, I am a supporter and it is my job to support, regardless. Blind faith you say? Yes definitely. I believe in our owners and our manager. I believe in our club. Under Roy I doubted, but that was expected of any RED. Do I get unhappy about certain decisions, sure, but I support because that is my job. Liverpool FC is my passion. When we score a goal, it's as if I scored the goal, when we let in a goal, it's as if I made the mistake.

Suarez, Carroll, Stevie, Carra, Hendo, Adam, Reina, Coates, Lucas, Bellamy, Kuyt, Downing, Enrique, Skrtel, Kelly, Johnson, Agger, Aurelio ... not to mention the kids like Sterling, Suso, Robinson, Coady, etc.. WHAT AN AMAZING SQUAD.

I love Liverpool FC.

Reddie Sixx

Nice post mate!

Paul R

Excellent post, well worth the time to read! and agree with everything!!

Big G

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:34:50
Dear Mr JW Henry/FSG/Tom Werner/Kenny Dalglsih/Damian Comolli,

Im sure I can speak for many a red when I say a big heartfelt thankyou for the turnaround in our clubs fortunes, for all the deadwood/unused players to be gone, and with a fair few new quality additions, our squad, from looking large but devoid of quality throughout is now a quality squad with players who want to be at the reds and would run through brick walls for us and Kenny in particular. The extremity in emotions from this time last year couldnt be different, whilst on the surface meireles leaving has one way or another left a bad taste in the mouth, as another poster pointed out, if Meireles had gone to Chelsea and we had then bought Coates and Bellamy would the reaction still be the same, me thinks not! As good as Meireles was, and feel he adapted to the Prem in the 2nd half of the year very well under Kenny, I just feel this deal feels right for LFC. 12 million for a player we would be lucky to get 4 seasons out of, his injury record is at best patchy, he can shoot and scored a few memorable goals (cant tackle and is a bit lightweight) which live long in the memory, thanks Raul but youll never again know what it feels like to have the full support of the LFC faithful, good luck with the Plastic Flag brigade down at the bridge. Your gona need it.

Everything you have done this year is with LFC at heart and it is with this act which has endeared you all , if you wernt already, to the LFC faithful.
John Henry/Tom Werner - Thank you for backing our King with funds to turn the club around
King kenny - For just being you, as always you instill a belief not only quite clearly evident in your players but you have that same knack with the fans too. For getting us playing good football but with a balance and solidarity not seen for a long time at the reds.
Damian Commolli - Damian, its got to be said, a lot of Liverpool fans did question your role initially, but throughout the transfer window with the assistance of the King, you have continued to strengthen your position amongst the reds fans and prove yourself, from Henderson, to Bellamy, from an outsiders point of view I feel we have negotiated excellently, getting top targets left right and centre -
The rest of this is for the rest of the hardcore Lpool fans - I havnt been this excited about a season for a long time, ive never seen us looking so balanced and solid throughout as a squad for far to long. How anyone who loves this club cannot be excited and positive at the prospects of where this could end up then you probably switched off at half time in Istanbul is how blinkered you all are, whilst opinions differ, the majority of the posters on here can at least put an argument to some negativity, whilst still being positive, its the no named brigade who only be negative and cast aspersions to players who have been here 5 mins that upset and rile the majority of fans, well i for one, will listen to your not so well thought out opinions with a big smile on my face as, i look over to my poor mum, whos a bluenose btw, shes just lost her favourite player and is looking at stormy waters for the rest of the season, i for one remember last year well, trying to get excited at the prospect of Konchesky signing, hes not that bad id tell myself, he can do a job, begging to god that the Carlton Cole rumours where just that. cant wait for the Stoke game now although, with all the height they now possess, I expect to see more a game of american football than proper footy ha! The next 2 games should give us an idea of where we are for the rest of the season 4 - 6 points and i will be a delighted man - Cmon the reds for the rest of the season - this is one red who will back you all the way as long as I can see effort.
Scouserjohnny

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:31:17
Not fussed at all about Raul's departure. He was a lightweight and generally too soft to mix it up in the middle...decent transfer window...looking fwd to bringing bellamy on with 30mins to go and running defences into the ground...

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:29:20
Very good window in my eyes , and if its correct on what people ate saying we save on wages brilliant.
Some of the players who have gone weren't even good enough for our reserves.
We didnt pend stupid money.
Wouldn't surprise me if in Jan we get cahill for 3-4 mil instead of having to pay 4 or 5 times that now.
Miereles is no loss he did ok last year but take them goals away I don't think there was much more there.

LAVERS

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:26:21
Hi Ed's/Macca - Just wanted to say thanks for all the hard work over the last few months keeping updated with your honest views and witty coments and for putting up with some of the sh8te that was posted on a daily basis! Now we look forward to watching our newly shaped squad and exciting attacking football...

I'm sure KK/DC have targets in mind for January so we can look forward to future additions come the new year. I'm sure by then we will be top of the league!!

Just a final note to the boys who were standing outside Melwood yeaterday singing "JUSTICE FOR THE 96" every time the sky reporter was live on tv.

WELL DONE BOYS...

Cheers

Paul

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:25:05
Macca says were staying at anfeild and and it will be a 60,000 seater but when can we expect an official statement about it? RED ROSS
{Ed002's Note - By the end of the month.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:24:11

Liverpool signed seven players and sold, released or loaned a total of nineteen players during this summer's transfer window. Wage bill reduced by £30m.
rhi

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:56:42
Ed you seem to think Brad Jones is of soon what will happen to him? thanks {Ed002's Note - He is being released to spend time with his family.}

Our good wishes for Brad and his family.

Ed 002. Is he really released, when will this happen? Is he already gone. I understand his kid is sick, I recall LFC.tv did a story on it. So good luck to them. Curious though.... has he really gone? I had not heard anything of thsi and I read a lot of football stories.

Cheers ed.

BJH YNWA {Ed001's Note - it is up to him, the club have left it up to him to decide what he does, but Doni was signed to allow him to go on a free if he chooses.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:15:30
just to let anyone know who might be missing pouslon his new team play tonight im sure as there were so many fans of his on here you.l all want to be watching his silky smooth passing skill and great defensive tackles oh wait its pouslon oh well im sure ul be highly interested in watching him
jez

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:15:09
How could meireles have passed a medical if he is currently injured?

Lol. They used Torres' doctor.
The Real KB

Does anyone remember a certain mr. aquilani?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:10:11
Morning Eds, First off a huge thanks for such a top site and the effort you guys put in is 2nd to non.
Ive heard Bellamy took a 50% pay cut to join us! any truth in this?

BBC says £80k a week
The Real KB

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:09:46
Hey guys, just like your thoughts on this. So our next game is stoke, jerome, jones and crouch their striking options. All massive tbh :L Am I correct in thinking maybe this will be the perfect oppurtunity for Coates to make his debut? He's 6ft 6 and what I hear he's not one to shy out of a tackle/header. Just a thought guys...

Where's Soto when you need him? haha

the other DC

Robinson is gonna go on Flannagans shoulders and wear a massive coat and pretend they are on massive new player called Robagan or Flanson who signed on a free. To seal the deal, they will put on a fake moustache and a top hat.

Jolly Red

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:21:32
Glasgow Rangers fan here, i live in england and like to follow liverpool aswell, Dalglish bid 9million for our striker Nikica Jelavic yesterday, and let me tell you, this boy is top top class, he was linked with a 15million pound move to Man Utd 7 weeks ago, hes a "much" better all round player than 35million Carroll, hes got pace, power, great in the air, got good skills and technical ability, works his socks off, and is a very very good natural finisher, very much a berbatov type, but with incredible work ethic. we knew after 5 or 6 games he wouldnt be at rangers for more than 1-2 yrs, but hes pledged to stay with us for at least this whole season, just letting all you liverpool fans know that if you do eventually get him, you really will love him, i know none of you rate the scottish league, but you know a gem when you see 1, just like larrsson at celtic! maybe check out a few rangers games on sky this year, and just give him a watch, hes great to watch! good luck for the season lads!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 11:01:40
can anyone fill in these details-
player out price weekly wage
poulson 40k
insua
degan
ince
hansen
bouzanis
darby
saric

just any fee recived, loan, and the weekly wage they are on
many thanks.........lfc

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:58:31
After a summer of great business, the last few minutes last night just took the shine off everything for me. I know Meireles wanted to go but why did we sell him to a rival who are gonna be competing against us for top 4 .

Also Bellamy is 32 ( what is commonly called a Journeyman)and has his best years past him- he has also suffered quite a few injuries in the recent past. arsenal picked up Park Chu Young for just 3million I think- he is only 26/27 and a much better long term prospect and all round player.

Anyway watch this space as they say!!

It's all about timing, our youngsters should be about ready in 2 years.

Paul R

They have Chu Young for two years as he has to serve military service. I would rather Bellamy, he knows this league insdie out

Park Chu Young is a good player, but i am guessing the reason he was not picked up is because of that future, meaning his military service of which he is due in the next 3 years. Had he had his military service behind him, Kenny would've snapped him up very early on in the window.

BooDaBooze

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:58:17
Can someone reply and let me know how long a contract raul meireles signed with us last year.

I think it is probably the right idea to let him go if he wants to leave as dont need negativity in the dressing room etc, whether we should have offered more is irrelevant as we didnt and now hes gone.

It doesnt seem the best bit of business though, all transfer window our business has been exceptional, getting proven prem players in and dropping high earners but this deal is at odds with that.

we got Raul Meireles last yr for 11.5m and we got him at that price because he only had 2 yrs left on contract, he has since came to premier lge, proven himself and we sell him for 12m when luca modric is worth 40m?

If he has only a yr left on contract fair enuf, still not best business but understandable, so if anyone can enlighten me on what he had left that'd be great.

Just wanted to thank the Eds and Macca for everything they have done, absolutely amazing site with great info and loved the eds comments throughout, looking forward to january!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:58:16
Morning Redmen / Edmen or should I say Supermen?
Thanks very much eds for your sterling work yesterday, indeed for keeping the site going. It's become a part of life now. Brilliant.
The business of the day - Meireles of course.
TBH I reckon the £12m we sold him for has paid for the (was it 17 x ) squad players off the long term wage bill. Good business in my books.
I feel a bit sorry for the guy but his number was up when Hendo was signed. A younger, more competitve replacement. And that's why Raul's salary was not increased over the Summer, he was lined up as the potential dolly.
Don't ever mess with Kenny & Clarke, cos they are old-style Liverpool ruthless.
Anyway, a fabulous Transfer window. The best I can remember. Topped off by Macca's great news. Thanks to that lad as well. I don't know if he put's his neck on the line, passing on info, but it's much appreciated Macca.
I leave you, for now, with this thought - it's Kenny's Team Now !
The Real KB

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:49:42
A new/very old approach to midfield.

Gerrard, Lucas, Adam, Henderson, Spearing, Shelvey, Coady
7 centre mids who can all:-
1) defend and attack
2) play box to box at high tempo

Poulsen can defend and attack but cannot achieve a high tempo
Cole and Aquilani cannot defend and cannot achieve a high tempo
Meireles cannot defend well enough and cannot maintain a high tempo for 90 minutes

It should be no surprise who has left and who remains.

Expect to see increasing midfield flexibility.

Perhaps we will do away with the distinction between DM's and AM's and just have midfielders.
Or at least regard it as just where you happen to be on the pitch at the moment, not as a permanent restriction on a player.

If we achieve the same flexibility up and down the pitch with our mids
as we do across the field with our attackers,
our midfield will dominate most games.

If they consistently give us an advantage in possession and teritory,
assume that 3 from Downing, Carroll, Suarez, Bellamy & Kuyt will score some goals,
that out back four won't be overworked,
and our fullbacks will have freedom to show off their attacking skills.

EuroRed

I am happy, this will give our youngsters a chance to develop their game. Who knows what the likes of Shelvey, Suso, Coady, Adorjan would end up, being. YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:39:12
Hi Ed's and everybody else, just wanted to say thanks to everybody for yesterday.
I think its also important to say thanks to our new owners for the total turn around in our fortunes, the future looks bright, I think we were all a little skeptical about what was been said as we have heard it all before, but credit where its due we are a million miles from where we were 12 months ago, hats of to everybody including the fans, its been a long road but I firmly believe we are on the right course and success will surely follow

Andy O

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:31:32
January TARGETS :
Center Midfielder
Winger

And a striker.

1) A central attacking midfielder(a creative playmaker)

2) A pacy and tricky right winger.

3) A striker.

4) A CB. Most likely, Cahill.

Then we can go for the final push to glory.

BooDaBooze

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:26:26
ED's or any one else when does the loan transfer window finish for players like Hansen,Amoo, Eccleston to leave? Also what's happening with Brad Jones, one of the ED's said he would leave by mutual consent and finally when are the premier league squads being announced. Sorry for being a pain. Thanks

DS

The Times this morning says Ecclestone has gone to Fulham on loan.

RedSG {Ed009's Note - Eccleston's Twitter says he has not gone anywhere.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:25:40
Raul could kick a ball and change a game yes!!
but he is a s**tbag in a challange.
Bellamy will offer more grit and speed as a bit part player and thatis all Raul would of been.

I lOve the way when merelies came all Liverpool fans were sayin he's good this he's great that then when he realises he wants to win things and go somewhere else he's s**te and would have only been a bit part player,ha if he had an interest at all he would have been in the team ahead of Lucas,Henderson etc,tell me Liverpool fans what's your aim for the season??

Bernard

FACTS!!
never did say he was s**t,said he is a s**tbag in a challenge.
Only ever used as a sub this season (bit part player) Henderson Adam and Lucas all ahead of him in Kenny's team.
Plus with the s**te Roy was getting in he was the only one who could shine from time to time.

Bernard, the target is Top 4. Anything else is a bonus.
Meireles wanted more money, and would get it at Chelsea. If a player hands in a transfer request at our club, he is moved on. No-one is bigger than the club.
I'm guessing your a Manc, so you don't understand this concept. I understand when a player hands in a transfer request at your club you bend over and present a blank cheque to the player.

RedSG

Our aim is to win lots of games, get into the top 4, and win a cup...what your aim bernard? SG

Gotta laugh! getting excited about rul joining yourv boys at chelsea-well hope he does better than Torres has. Lets face it, no matter how good the player,they have to fit into the jigsaw.Obviously KK saw him as expendable. Lets see what happens over the next few months.

It's simple Bernard, we want to finish in a CL qualifying spot, build on this and we could, yes! could challenge for the League in the following seasons. It's called progress!!
Merelies was a good player but did lack some commitment, shall we say, in the tackle. he will however be remembered for scoring against Chelsea and others, he wasn't bad he was quite good, but hopefully we now have better, or the prospect of being better.
You fail to mention who you support, I am sure your supporters do the same with players that have been sold.
best of luck for YOUR new season.

Big Bill

Yes I am a Manc and wasn't it worth it keeping Rooney sayin that we should have sold him and bought him back like yous with a certain bellamy :) Rooney has more goals so far this season than Bellamy will score all season wait and see,I remember a certain Steven gerrard a few years ago declaring he wanted to join Chelsea but had a change of heart,just like Rooney did,see the thing is Rooney is in his prime which is why we kept him,I think on recent seasons some Liverpool fans will agree they should have sold gerrard and got 40 or 50 mill from Chelsea but no ya kept him and have been nursing his poor groin ever since oh and another reason we kept Rooney was our ambition to WIN titles,see with most l,pool fans up to last year all us united fans got was "were the mOst successful team in England"it's funny a team that has so much HISTORY is challenging for titles year in year out! :)

Bernard

Ps I'm a proud Manc!

Bernard

No one said he was great when he joined, he was tripe until kenny took over, then he had a brief spell of scorign, but over the season, people seem to be wearing rose tinted goggles since he was above average in a dire season which only looked better once the King took over

You have a short memory Bernard, as you talk of HISTORY!!! As it's not that long ago your team went through the same baron spell as we have. The football world has moved on and things can change overnight, as your neighbors across the road have shown. The fact is we have continued to challenge for silverware,and have now come through the hard times,and the animosity only comes from you because you know,we know and belive me FERGIE KNOWS WE ARE BACK!!!

REDMAN

Bernard, you are spouting the usual arrogant blind useless pointless incorrect laughable idiotic dung filled drivel that most of your kind do. Is it an affliction from living in our shadow for so long? GO back under your rock you clown
Milamber

Bernard what part of london are you from?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:23:34
liverpool fc reduce wage bill by £30m a year

also £25m from transfer fees during the summer

these new owners are very clever business men and comolli has done an excellent job!!

Exactly, a stable well run business, not fantasy football.

Football needs to be run like any business, they way they have dealt with the dross and thought about the future is admirable, lucky to have them

Tight piece of business. i can only congratulate Comolli et al. Bravo!

BooDaBooze

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:21:18
Now that the transfer window is shut, do you think the management will have a better idea of which young players coming through the ranks may make the step up this season? We could have done with another winger coming in, so perhaps it is time for Sterling to come in to contention more regularly. Maybe Coady or Suso to replace Merieles. What do eds and anyone else think?

Shelvey should fill Raul's vacated position. This season will be his make or break season. Kenny has big trust in him.

BooDaBooze

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:19:38
So, end of transfer window. Big pat on the back for the Ed's who put up with a lot of incessant rubbish over the last few months, and have done a brilliant job on here keeping us lot sane. Big well done to Macca on all of the info he's provided as well.

Maybe Kenny not buying anyone after Bellamy with the "Meireles Money" was a cunning plan. If he's truly interested in the likes of Johnson, Affelay, Sturridge, etc. Then maybe we'll sign one in January. We saw what a boost it gave everyone after last January's purchases. We're not in dire need for more players at the moment either.

Who knows, either way, we'll find out sooner or later. I for one will continue to open this page every day on my phone, let's hope everybody else continues to.

A.C.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:19:06
So ragin can't beileve yous got Bellamy,tell ya what we ll give you Rooney and 5 million for him haha

Bernard

We'll take 10m but you can keep Rooney

cozinoz

We will give you Suarez and 10mil for Owen...SG

In fairness,Suarez is unreal and he will bang in a good few this season for yas still not sure bout Carroll though!

Bernard

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:10:00
Hi eds please post in rumours:

does anyone know the percentage of goals that Raul assisted last season? Both our goals against Arsenal came from Raul and Luis' interplay and Raul, Kuyt and Maxi seemed to have an amazing 'total football' approach to attack last season. Since many fans do not believe we will get a great deal out of Carroll this year, who can we expect to attack the box with Suarez? the little guy cant do it all by himself!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:09:34
31 Aug 2011 21:06:07
We will stay at Anfield and increase the capacity to about 60,000..

We will keep the upper centenary and the kop as they are..

The work will start in about about 18 months and take about 2 years to finish.

Cheers

Macca {Ed002's Note - This is the real Macca and I must say this is what I expected and what I believe is best in the medium term for the club. I am surprised they can get to 60k but if they can manage it the it will avoid a very large loan (circa 300M GBP) and the associated repayments. The fans should see this as good news. And I would also like to thank Macca for his efforts.}
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Good. After the shambles of H&G, it would be ridiculous to take on a £300+ loan just to gain an extra 15,000 to the capacity.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:08:23
September 1st, the sun is out, all deadwood has gone, and a new chapter in the life of LFC is set to begin.

A leaner meaner stronger team has been assembled by our fantastic manager and staff, and upwards of 30million wiped off the wage bill and a total net spend since FSG took over of around 40 million.

We can now start operating not just on the field but also as a financially sound business, FSG have taken less than a year to turn this around in what can only be described as a total success that even FSG could not have imagined in such a short time scale.

We can now look forward to the season ahead with a great sense of pride and really get behind the club and support them to the max.

I am sure now that the transfer window is shut the owners will carry on in the same fashion to try and make the best decision for the club with regards the new stadium or the re-development of Anfield, by what we have seen in the transfer markets success I have every confidence in them making the right decisions here too.

Very proud red

Curled1

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:53:07
For once i've tried taking my rose tinted Liverpool specs off and their must've been a good reason why Liverpool didn't want to honour that VERBAL agreement. But it has to do with more then one word for me when you look at the Utd game where Gerrard was sent off not long after Raul pulled out of a 70/30 in his favour. The Arsenal match were we all presumed the middle finger was going up as a piss taking gesture over Lucas but prob did have a more significant meaning looking back and Exeter game were Suarez was all over them like a rash i aint gonna say he blaged injury but i was watchin the the Test series between England and India Jonathan Trott fell awkwardly and did his shoulder and ended up collarbone in and the guy was in pure agony soon as he hit the deck and i mean pure. It grates me to say it but if it was/is his collar bone as reported he's either got some pain threshold or is a complete pussy because his face said nowt one way or the other. End of the day i gave Aqualani enough stick for wanting out at least he stabbed us in the front,we all so it coming. Raul did one right between the shoulder blades, he dont wanna play us and i've always said if a man doesn't realise what an honour to play for Liverpool FC never mind support us,then thats his tough luck. Jonson6

Johnson6 - i love your posts -pure qaulity, keep them coming
Hulkman

Interesting post with some good points to be thought about. I agree, he didn't look as though he was in serious pain and I would have thought he wouldn't have passed a medical...

I also noticed the only reason he may have hurt his shoulder/collarbone was due to the fact he was so scared of physical contact by an exeter player he thought it better to pull out a commando roll landing on his shoulder rather than have anyone come within his vacinity. Lets be honest his sale is certainly not going to shape our season in any way.

Cheers
Greggers

This guy wanted out. I thought along with many others that his"injury" at Exeter looked feigned, and this seems to have been confirmed by the fact that Comolli mentioned today that RM is currently in Cyprus with the Portuguese national team. He played well in half a dozen games out of over 40 appearances. Thanks for the goals Raul, but I'm afraid you just won't be missed all that much. LeighT

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:51:50
gerrard is back a ready to go

 

 

01 Sep 2011 10:12:53
There are too many doubters - what if so and so is injured - what do you do then? The fact is that we are going to get long-term injuries (as does every club). If we are good enough we will persevere and I personally think that we are good enough. After the results of last weekend everyone thinks that the manchester clubs are going to win by four or six goals every week. We all thought that about Chelsea last season (and we all hoped it about Liverpool the season before!). We have an excellent chance of being there or thereabouts this season - a season that will (unlike previous seasons) last well beyond Christmas. GOOD TIMES AHEAD (not just this season but in the future as well).
Dutchmal

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:50:01
Now Meireles has gone does that mean King Kenny has got rid of all Roy's signings from last season?

Konchesky
Poulsen
Cole
Jovanovic
Meireles

To be fair Jovanavic was a Benitez signing.

MUSHROOM

I do agree but jova was rafa's man

Jones is the last man standing, but could still go on a free...

dmedly

Wilson is also among them. He was signed by Hodgson, too. I hope, he'd become a top player. YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:35:16
It was a bitter end to a very good transfer window for us.

The addition of Bellamy gives us more reliable cover and another good attacking option.

Shame to see Raul Meireles leave as I thought he was an excellent player to have in our squad.

I don't think he will play any more games than what he would have if he stayed with us, but I feel the lure of more Portugese connections at Chelsea swayed him to move there. I suppose if a player is not happy at a club, we don't want that rubbing off on other players!

I doubt very much, but I would like to hope with that deal we at least asked for first refusal on Sturridge come Jan or next Summer. Similarly with Cole, I hope the reports about having first refusal with Hazard are true. Although before I get shot down, I know this is all very unlikely.

We have a great squad now capable of getting a top four spot. It won't be easy and as I have always said, Arsenal will be our biggest rivals despite their poor start.

Champions league football next season and I hope we can attract 2 or 3 more 'bigger name' signings; Adam Johnson, Hazard and Sturridge.

Good times ahead so let's make sure we get behind the team and every player at the club.

See you all in Jan!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:32:12
I feel lost! The refresh button at the top of my page doesn't seem to be churning out numerous audacious and quite frankly ridiculous rumours about neymar, ganso, aguero, sanchez, a johnson to name but a few. What the hell am I meant to do with the most part of my day? Work is an option, probably the most viable but a bit boring to be honest. What makes it worse is that we have to endure what will undoubtably be a tedious international break. Can't wait for the next game though. Just want to say brilliant job by all the eds, can't begin to imagine how stressed and at times infuriating the past couple of months have been. May even sink a few jagermeister this weekend to toast you all.

At least with meireles moved on we now find an opening for moussa sissoko either in jan or next summer.

Cheers
Greggers

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:31:04
So our business in 2011 is over.

Overall I think it was good business.

Outs - approx money in £ 86m
Torres £50m
Babel £6m
Miereles £14m
Aquilani £10m (eventually)
Degen - off the wagebill
Kyriakos - off the wagebill
Poulsen - off the wagebill
Cole - partly off the wagebill
Ngog £4m
Misc £2m

Ins - approx spend £116m
Suarez £23m
Caroll £35m
Henderson £16m
Downing £20m
Adam £8m
Coates £7m
Bellamy £0m
Doni £1m
Enrique £6m

Suprising result really - Nett spend around £30m!!

GOOD BUSINESS KK, DC, JH ETC

Thing with Joe Cole if he has a season away and plays well, gets sharpness and his confidence back he may be welcomed back next year. There is no doubt he is not a bad player at his best. Steve068

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:21:58
Far too many people saying we are short in midfield now, so Gerrard, Lucas, Downing, Adam, Henderson, Bellamy, Spearing, Kuyt, Suso, Sterling are not enough??
All comolete fools, weve all been told from the start of the.window that Meireles was going, and with Adam, Downing, Bellamy and Henderson brought in i think weve just about covered his place!!

Anfield Andy

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:06:58
Hi Eds,

Any news on Gerrard's injury? When does it look like he may be back. Has he started any light training or anything?

Davey Sulls {Ed009's Note - He has started light training and I believe should be back mid September time.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:05:00
Heard a pretty solid rumour that the only reason we allowed Raul to leave was on the basis we had already replaced him and Bellamy was the last piece in Kenny's puzzle

Think about it, the midfielders we have signed, it means we now have Lucas, Downing, Henderson, Adam, Rodreguez, Kuyt, plus any youngster that make a move on the first team like Stirling perhaps, plus Bellamy can play as a winger if needed, plus the imminent return of a certain Mr Gerrard. And not to mention there is also the possibility of Glen Johnson being pushed more advanced

Raul wasn't happy, we've been told time and time again unhappy players won't be required to stay. 12m for twenty nine year old that even if people won't admit it, was amazingly lightweight...no brainer really. If Chelsea think he is the answer because they didnt get Modric they are sadly mistaken. So chill out folks...it was an amazing transfer window for us with the a lot of players taken off the wage bill and I for one can't wait for the rest of this season

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:03:34
How lucky is Joe Cole!still gets his £90 grand a week,and gets to play in the Champions league,and heres the killer blow,if we get into next seasons CL,he will still be one of our players.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:03:19
Just wanted to say well done to you all - Eds and Macca! A dignified window and working through the mire ALL the truth came out here!
Indie

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:02:13
Went to bed fuming hoping to wake up in better humour ......... It didn't work, I'm worse.

Can't believe the Liverpool board allowed the Meireles situation to get to the stage it did, and when it did!

You can't expect loyalty from a player after f**king him around all summer and touting him out to every club going.

I've been slagging off Spurs for years feeding United players, and when even dodgy Aarry turns down 40 million, we save the day for Chelsea by weaken are squad and strengthen theres.

Dress it up how ever you like, but Kk & Dc and/or the board have to take most the blame for letting it reach the stage it did.

"You're really wanted at Liverpool and here's the contract you deserve" and Chelsea don't come sniffing around.
He should have been sold abroad well before now if thats what Kk & Dc wanted, or told to wait until January, and a stand been made

"A Fuming Red"

You have no idea mate!

The man was on 60 grand a week do you really feel he should be on 120 yes he was a ok player but was he worth the same as stevieg i doubt it and id like to see how you can justify that he was he wasn,t even a first team player this year
giblet

No one f*cked him around, all his own making, hand ina transfer request ealrier if you are not happy

 

 

01 Sep 2011 09:02:07
Am just shocked that people are now on here saying we have no midfielders and we have weakened our team and KK & DC havent got a clue! unreal. We sold merieles, who yes was a class act when he could be bothered, but how many times did he stub his toe and have to go off? He was becoming a sqaud player more so when we signed the new players and he knew it - he must think he will be 1st choice at Chelsea but im afraid he wont - lampard wont be dropped and he isnt a defensive midfielder. If your not happy about the transfers we have made and all the crappy hang ons we have got rid off go support Everton - imagine how they feel today? KK is the manager not you, give him the respect he deserves and let him run the team - what has he done wrong upto now?. You stick to your fantasy league. Rant Over. ps. Mancs stick to your own sites - they need you! ha
Hulkman

 

 

01 Sep 2011 08:56:43
with meireles gone does anybody else think we may be a little short in the centre mid position with only adam,gerrard(injured),lucas ,spearing, i know henderson can play there but kk seems to want to play him on the right?
what happens if another c mid gets injured then we only have 2 to choose from. anyway think its good business as i didnt think meireles had the right fighting spirit for liverpool after seeing him pull out of that challenge against man u in the f.a cup which resulted in stevie gerrard getting sent off. ynwa.

mike

 

 

01 sep 2011 08:55:08
great work last night ed's without doubt the place to be was glued to our screens watching the assault of questions that were aimed at you over the past 3months my question is with it being jamie's last season and gerro's last maybe will pepe be giving the arm band and if he is made club captain who will become vice captain

ramythered2007

 

 

01 Sep 2011 08:52:41
So eds who in your in opinion will be joining in Jan?
You can rate then out of 10 if you like???.........Just kidding, relax till Jan job well done.GYRED

 

 

01 Sep 2011 08:43:22
Ok, now the transfer window is closed. Can we ask the question do we have a big enough Squad for a league campaign & 2 good cup runs. Obviously taking into consideration we have no European competition.

The only spot I would have concern is right midfield were we have Henderson. Everywhere else is reasonably well covered. We've got as back up Doni (gk), Kelly (rb), Coates & Skrtel (cb), Aurelio (lb), Adam & Spearing (cm), Maxi (lm), Kuyt & Bellamy (cf).

So a very good job well done by all involved.

Ed002, I know you were a bit wary of Commoli because of his history at St Et. Do you think he has done a good job & maybe seen the error of his ways?

The Irish Rover

Kuyt, Gerrard, Maxi and Downing can all play RM

 

 

01 Sep 2011 08:42:04
The news that we are staying at anfield and increasing the capacity to around 60k is fantastic. Look what's happened at Aresnal - the emirates atmosphere is awful - and the increased revenue is great only if your board are willing to spend it on Players!

Making anfield into 60k stadium is the best news Liverpool have had since the new owners took over for me.

Gazman

Have i missed something i was not aware a decision on the stadium had been made

Refer to macca's post from last night

 

 

01 Sep 2011 08:41:03
Just like to say, all in all an exciting, positive window! Bit sorry about Raul - what with Alberto and wee Joe all gone, it looks like we'll be relying too much on Luis for a bit of trickery... Still, what do I know?

Also just want to add, it seems people get all hot under the collar about not signing posts - I always thought I had by putting it up top in the name box. Perhaps it's the same for others slagged off...

For the record - Raised Eyebrow

 

 

01 Sep 2011 08:37:49
PGA & European Golf Tips Now Up! STED1

I think your looking for Golf-Rumours.com

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:58:13
Just like to thank all the ED's and Macca for the great work they have done keeping up with what went on during the transfer window and providing some great insight and information.

Just one question, any ideas on who we nearly got this time round? More than happy with who we have signed, but just curious about who we were also in for.

Petevh

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:37:13
May I just say what an excellent jobs the editord have done RE: the ammount of sheer drivel that must get posted.

I am absolutely shocked by the way some of you guys out there hold meireles in such high regard, and can only conclude that your memories only go back as far as jan.Meireles IMO is a decent player, but I have never been convinced he is a liverpool player. He performed admirably once kenny took over, more to do with kennys attacking style than anything else. His positioning was suspect,his tackling was like the guy of the snickers advert, and the one thing he is being remebered for-his goals- where largley him hitting a ball as hard as he can at the goal(apart from the chelsea goal, which is my fav). Despite this I don't believe he did enough, or contributed enough throughout the season to warrant a new contract,whether there was a 'verbal' agreement or not. The fact anyone was willing to pay 12mil for him when we only paid 10.6 mil is amazing, the fact it is chelsea astounds me and leads me to believe I either I'm missing something or Boas is as mental as he sounded on MOTD last week. With this transfer our net transfer activity for the summer is prob between 25-30mil, we've got a greater and more potent squad, a considerably reduced wage bill and are in a much more financially stable position. We have the means to really push forward this season because of the excellent work, comolli, kenny, FSG and all at liverpool have done to turn our fortunes around, and put us in a position where if needed we can go out in january and pretty much get anyone who wants to play for liverpool, and when we finish in the top four and clubs are knocing on our door for adam, suarez, et al we have the means to offer them bumper new contracts to stay with us. This also means there is an extra place on the bench for the likes of sterling, souso and coady to get chance. All parties, should be cheering right now....we are on our way back to the big show. Good times ahead. See you all jan.

JFT96
YNWA

The merry pippin

 

 

01 Sep 2011 08:15:27
pepe gk doni gk jonesgk

rb johnson /kelly cbs caggs skirkel agger coates. lb enrigure. cm spearing gerrard henderson adam lucas.right wing kuyt/bellamy/left wing downing. strikers carrol bellamy kuyt swarez

i think in jan we need leftback cover winger cover someone who can play on both sides

if we be 3rd or 4th at least in christmas with no more than 6 points behind and we can sign a good winger and another leftback in jan i think we can push on and win the leauge. even with what we have now we should finish top 4 maybe even win it

 

 

01 Sep 2011 08:10:05
Macca when will Liverpool announce there plans for anfield......btw this site has got to be number one for transfer rumours, whether right or wrong in the end, it adds some amusement when there isn't any football on.....thanks eds and thanks macca...uve been awesome

 

 

01 Sep 2011 08:03:49
I doubt many Reds are over concerned about Raul moving on, its been stated here and on many other sites that he,s capable of pulling out of a tackle in training. I,d rather see Hendo starting against Stoke¦
Strange how we've become a feeder club for Chelskies bench, Ambramovich has invested more in LFC than G&H ever did¦.
RIP96

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:55:39
Morning all,
This is the way I see it :-
Raul was like the partner who was high maintenance and was seduced by a someone with cash but no class. Would you still want to be with that person?
Anyway, Roy H bought him for 11.5 and we sold for 12, I think his price was high when we bought him to be honest.
He gave some good performances last season but is too lightweight to be a regular first teamer (IMO). On the other hand I would have liked him to stay as he could have been a good squad player.
Once someone shows a desire to leave, they do not care for the club anymore, so why keep an unhappy player.
We have had a fantastic transfer window and Bellamy will do well for us under KK, so let's not be bitter as this time last year we were a shambles of a club and team.
Thanks to FSG for sorting us out and thanks to all the Eds & Macca on this site for a good laugh and keeping me informed!
Ultra Red

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:54:59
Great transfer window. And we still got one more major transfer............. stevie g will be like new signing.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:50:49
Personally I think Raul leaving is a total shame, not just because he played well for us last season, but because the whole saga was a bit of a sorry one and does not reflect well on Liverpool FC.

When he signed last summer, there was an informal agreement that if he performed well - and I don't think anyone can argue that he did - then he would be awarded a new improved contract in the summer.

Back in May, The Guardian quoted him as saying,

"If I had this opportunity I'd sign a new contract today. [For] 10, 20 years, for sure,"

FSG and LFC refused to come back to the table to renegotiate.

Now, I'm fully aware that an informal agreement isnt worth the paper it is printed on, and that new owners can ignore it, should they so choose. However, for a player that pretty much kept us in the game at the start of the year on his own, worked his ass off, and assumed that his hard work would be rewarded with at least some form of negotiation at the very least to get quite aggrieved when this doesn't happen, well, I understand his frustration.

Add to this the multiple midfield signings over the summer, and I can empathise with the guy. I'm not saying that he is completely justified in his actions. All I am saying is that I can see his point of view. LFC and FSG could have handled this better than they did.

So don't hate on the guy for wanting to go. Just feel sorry that this wasn't handled better than it was. I wish him all the luck in the world and hope he has success. Just not at our expense though.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:41:35
Excellent window
Compare that with spuds and gooners business, a great improvement. And now the squad has been greatly reduced their is room for the promising kids to come through, we'll soon find out how good they are.
We now have business men running the club securing our future, so when a £20-30 million player comes available we will have the funds
ready instead of wasting it on average short term buys.
What a turn around, Broughton should be made a Honary Red

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:41:03
How have we managed to go from overweight in midfield to clearly underweight. Raul, Joe, and Alberto are gone. We now have, Adam, Lucas and Gerrard. With Gerrard injury concerns, we may get serious problems if Adam is unable to play a few games. In Kenny I trust but I can't believe we have let Raul go withouth a replacement.

Please post this in rumours

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:41:01
Well atleast we ain't everton fans, poor sods

Square tomato

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:26:20
Reds did fail in a bid for the Rangers forward Jelavic, late last night, that was refered to as a massive bid from a big team by the reporter in Scotland. Adam Johnson was not in the picture at all?..............Daniered YNWA ps Thanks to the Eds for such a wonderful experience last night, and to all our reliable contributors including Macca.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:12:52
boys...put your hankies away over the Raul transfer. Let's face it, he had a reasonable second half to the season, but was woeful if asked to play out wide or stick in a tackle or two. He looked good coming off the bench against Arsenal only because Pingpong got sent off and left a massive hole in their midfield. We have Stevie to come back and where would Raul have fitted in? Good business I say. January will see KK delve into the market again and my money is on Eden Hazard eventually pulling on the red shirt.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:08:53
im really startin 2 h8 chelsea much more than man u kuz they keep robbin our players that bully em

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:08:33
thank you ed's for the info and entertainment- it was fun while it lasted! see you January

Big A

 

 

01 Sep 2011 07:08:23
Perfect dealing by LFC management.
People should not forget that we still have Maxi in our squad and with Gerrard still to return from injury meireles would not be getting any game time in his preferred position. It was right to cash in now before his value drops due to lack of game time. We got at least 16 mil for him and ngog. Poulesn gone, 40% of coles wages paid by someone else. Degen off the payroll. Its been a success. Bellemy is the perfect player to sign for a year and play in a winger/striker role to backup for downing/suarez until we fill that position with someone like Hazard next summer.
Deadwood is gone, All is well, and our bank account hasn't looked this good in ages.
I wish Raul all the best, he saved us from a dismal season last year.
Our has got excellent balance now.
I see maxi leaving next summer, Bellamy signing another year extention, and liverpool bringing in hazard.
Working the transfer market like a true legend.
YNWA
The Pirate.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 06:37:19
Cant help but feel that Chelsea have a better team with Raul in it.
I know how to cheer myself up,by remembering the £62m Roman has given us we got,SUAREZ,DOWNING,ADAM,ENRIQUE and COATES.
Nice one Roman!!

REDMAN

PS Cheers JH & FSG for keeping your word.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 06:16:40
Had some home brew...loving the transfers...really happy with each one! Downing and Adam have been instrumental...however...Luis Suarez...absolutely amazing! Even tho we signed him in Jan... Amazing! Better than whats his name we sold to chavski...happy with ins and outs!

YNWA

 

 

01 Sep 2011 04:53:03
noone could be disappointed with the ins and outs of this transfer window, except maybe the rest of the prem. never been so excited about the prospect of wat we can go on to achieve in the coming seasons. there is such a good fresh feel about the squad now, i think we have a proper team who will want to play for each other and the badge. much respect to the owners for funding the transfers to get lfc back where we belong and to kk and dc for the great signings and departures.
nice work eds much appreciated.
good times ahead! good to be red!
mush

 

 

01 Sep 2011 04:24:25
we will play better without these players. they don't want to be here. obviously meireles can't wait for trophies even though this is our year. against bolton we didn't use any of the players that left and we were fine

 

 

01 Sep 2011 04:00:24
Is it possible for lfc to sign free agents released from the transfer window that just passed I.e.Vicente (only an example as he is Brighton bound but you know what I mean) {Ed009's Note - Free agents can be signed at any point.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 03:59:22
Worst case we can play with 3 cm 2 wide attacking players and 1 striker ,mereiles is a loss but not huge he's worth more now than next year plus he plays well for about 15 minutes in the game then disappears
Uruseb

 

 

01 Sep 2011 03:12:27
Ok, here goes:

The best goalie in the League: Reina
Two attacking full backs: Johnson and Enrique
A selfless Scouser: Carragher
A Beckenbaur: Agger
A midfield brick wall: Leiva
A midfield distributor: Adam
A genius: Gerrard
Another genius: Suarez
The best crosser in the league: Downing
Surely a beast: Carroll

Supported by:

Doni
Kelly (future Captain)
Coates (future Beckenbaur)
Skrtl (pretty)
Aurelio (best defender that's never really played for us)
Flanagan (pretty)
Robinson (lools like a Scouser - a bit like my Uncle Gerry crossed with Mark E Smith)
Wilson (pretty)
Coady (future vice Captain)
Shelvey (pretty)
Spearing (pretty)
Henderson
Suso (actually pretty)
Rodriguez (pretty)
Sterling (Tricky Kid)
Kuyt (we love the Diggler)
Bellamy (fore!)

What a pretty team. And a potentially great one.

The World Series is ours. It's gonna be fun this year.

King Tubby

 

 

01 Sep 2011 03:00:55
I don't get this notion that selling Meireles makes us thin in central midfield. In fact Id say the 2 positions we are somewhat thin in are left wing and defensive midfield, which are 2 positions that Meireles won't play. Lets look at our depth and options at every position.

Leftback: Jose Enrique is the starter, Fabio Aurelio is a backup. Glenn Johnson can play over there despite it not being his best spot. I suppose Daniel Agger would be the emergency man at the spot. I think we are pretty well off here.

Centerback: Jaime Carragher and Daniel Agger are the starters. Martin Skrtl and Sebastian Coates are on the bench. Martin Kelly can also fill in here. Thats 5 quality options for CB, no problems here.

Rightback: Martin Kelly and Glenn Johnson are both quality Prem League starters. Youngster John Flannagan provides depth and Martin Skrtl is the emergency option. Again, no depth issues.

Center Midfield: Ill further break this down into 2 roles, defensive midfielder and creative midfielder

Defensive Midfielder: Lucas is the starter, after him there are some issues. Obviously we have guys we can put into the center midfield position in place of Lucas but no one who can really do what he does as his natural position.

Creative Midfielder: Charlie Adam is the starter, Gerrard when fit can fill the role. Henderson can fill the role. We should be fine here.

Leftwing: Stewart Downing is the starter. We have other guys we can play here like Maxi or Suarez can even move out here but losing Downing would be an issue because we have no one who can play how he plays at all.

Rightwing: This is a position we should have no problems filling. Gerrard, Kuyt or Henderson are capable of playing this position well. Suarez can play out here ina pinch, Bellamy can now play out here. No problems here.

Support Striker/"In the hole": Luis Suarez can play here behind Andy Carroll or Craig Bellamy. Obviously Gerrard can play here, Kuyt can play here. No depth issues here.

Striker: Again no issues here. Carroll, Suarez, Kuyt and Bellamy can all play here.

So like I said the 2 positions I think we are lacking in are defensive midfielder and left wing. We could put quality players into either positions but those players would not be 100% comfortable in those roles. But like I said, Meireles was not going to really play either of those positions anyway.

I think your forgetting that spearing,coady play as holding mids.

You forgot Robinson at left back.

You forgot that Spearing can pay holding midfield, as can Gerrard if really needed.

Bellamy can play left wing, so can aureilio so we are pretty much covered here. I think we have a squad with lots more pace than last year and players who are flexible enough to cover several positions. This makes us a much better team. Particularily, a team that can cope with injuries and suspensions effectively.

When the Reds go Marching in!!

Stewie Griffin

 

 

01 Sep 2011 02:48:13
This is from the kop magazine - chelsea has given us £62million in the last year. That paid for suarez, adam, downing, coates and enrique.. that is half of our starting 11 that has us at the top end of the table. Any complaints over losing raul & ft? Azkop {Ed009's Note - I only wish everyone could look at it like that. Before Raul left he was never more than a squad player this season, yet losing him suddenly takes our window from fantastic to dire in one fell swoop. It makes no sense to me. I have no doubt we will be fine.}

I appreciate your optimism but you need to look at this from a more wholistic view. His departure is on top of Joe Cole and Aquallani, which is the issue. Letting 3 CMs go and Stevie having fitness issues, could spell P R O B L E M S till January (if Adam or Lucas get injured or worse lose form), when I am sure the King will bring one more CM. Jordan is not yet at the level of the 3 who have left. Raul was an important player, even more so when seeing his chemistry with Suarez (against Arsenal), so yes it is a big loss.

Im not sad to see Raul leave but do think with Gerrards injurys we are now light in central midfield with only Lucas,Henderson and Adam with any quality and the average spearing and shelvey for back up wish we had brought in a replacement before he left
TED

 

 

01 Sep 2011 02:40:24
I'm gonna apologize in advance if this is rude or even hurtful to anyone. It's not my intention, but rather there's a need for a reality check in light of the meireles transfer. I'm puking on the screen sick of the 'hater' breed of supporters we have accumulated in our ranks over the last 15yrs. People who were jealous of Utd's success and cheered us on to spite them. You know them-no pride, no faith, always quick to scrutinize decisions our club makes such as why sell raul for so cheap. If you were in debt and needed to buy diapers for your kid wouldn't you sell something at less than actual worth to get that cash? It's not as if we needed him or he was a iconic figure at our club. I agree we got taken by chelsea in this deal bc to them he is worth closer to. 20mill, but so what- we did what we had to do. If it affects your sense of pride for LFC then you are a fake supporter bc when decisions are made for the better of the team it doesn't matter how much value we get, but whether we support the club thru it. People like you is why we announced raul had requested a transfer, bc he is a big enough man to take the heat and save us some money as well. He is more loyal to the club in leaving us than many of our so called supporters are at the end of the day. Quick test- are you proud of our amazing 2nd place finish in 09 or are you still sore bc utd edged us out? Yeah you know what that means. If you think chelsea does better business than us and we need to stack up to them, go support them andd relieve yourself of that inner conflict you most certainly must be feeling. Trust your feelings son. The way we do things around here is we believe what our manager does, esp kenny, is the right thing- no questions asked. THIS IS THE HOUSE THAT SHANKLEY BUILT and we are freaking PROUD OF IT. and we are good as anyone else in SPIRIT AND SUPPORT for the club. Get with it or piss off, but don't moan about it bc you can't look some smug utd fan in the eyes without feeling ashamed bc he is grinning at you. I stand behind kenny 100% and will always support the club woth pride thru thick and thin. YNWA Let's go play with some fire in our hearts reds. azkop

Spot on mate. I don't care how much success other clubs have, none of them can hold a candle to our great club.
AC

Agree with 99% of this post, but we should always keep our eyes open. Do not agree that RH was a good idea, and believe it was true fans that caused his departure as well as plastics. Compare our attitude to G&H to Utd's green and yellow campaign..what happened to that btw? Agree ppl not pleased by Raul's departure should get over it..I rated him, but when you want to leave, you should be let go.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 02:33:29
over now, back to the banter page for 3-4 months ;-(

 

 

01 Sep 2011 02:28:53
LFC Squad


25-man squad (over 21 on 1 January 2011):

Homegrown (7 players) - Johnson; Carra; Gerrard; Spearing; Downing; Carroll, Bellamy

Foreign (11 players) - Doni; Reina; Skrtel; Agger; Aurelio; Enrique; Lucas; Adam; Maxi; Kuyt; Suarez


Under-21 players

Kelly; Coates; Hendo; Shelvey; Wilson; Suso; Sterling; Coady; Flanagan; Wisdom; Robinson

Kelly and Hendo will move out of the U-21 category next season. Shows we have a good mix of youth and experience. Plenty of room to add to the squad in January if needed either by form or injuries.

A very good squad when on paper most would say Spearing and Maxi are the weak links - no offence to either as I think both are very capable and good players. Nice to see the real "weak links" have departed - there is no-one in that squad that embarrasses me as a Liverpool fan. I am very happy with our squad now.

LIVERPRES

 

 

01 Sep 2011 02:24:40
Was that our best transfer window ever?
The one that brought in Torres was good but all our ins and outs this time have been spot on :)

MIKEY

Agree about the ins and outs. Do not need Meireles - goes missing in games far too often and doesn't like to tackle. Scores the odd cracker but take away his goals and tell me what he really contributed last season?

cozinoz

 

 

01 Sep 2011 02:04:41
obviously kenny didn't want sturridge or benayoun because he had something planned

 

 

01 Sep 2011 02:00:11
downing,henderson,adam,coates,enrique,bellamy and doni were all signed this transfer season. so what if we lost aqua man he did not want to play and meirels was not perfect last year he went missing alot in games.adam and lucas at the moment are doing perfect. lucas is becoming the best defensive mid in the epl his tackles hes passes are brilliant while adam can pick a pass from anywhere.all in all we are far better off when gerrard comes back there will be the three plus the young ones coming through.

I agree totally. This transfer season has been the best since Daglish bought Barnes Beardsley and co... I think selling Meireles was a good idea and a neccessary one.. For those that don't agree think of it like this.... He was never going to start with the players we had, he is 28 and in his prime (pretty poor really considering) his transfer value would only go down from here, he did not want to be here unless we gave him a pay rise which would have been a silly move and the money we made on him (a non starter and a player that would not feature much) paid back all the money we paid for the likes of Poulsen cole ngog jovanivic to be released from their contracts. Dont forget either that now he has gone that is one less player for the youngsters to try to get into the first team. We talk all day long how good our youth are so this way we can now give them a chance.
Eds, I have said this before the league started and I say it again, thanks for all the hard work you put in and for the info...you too Macca...sorry The Real Macca, lol.

Speedy

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:55:16
I`m sorry but money is spoiling our game, I`m just glad that LFC do not give in to this.
All I can say is if they want the money then good ridence, play for the badge ....

kevc

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:51:29
disappointed to see Raul go at last min, yet delighted to see Bellamy rejoin. Still would've liked an additional forward/creative signing as I think we may be caught with our pants down if one of our more influential players gets injured. All in all, think we achieved what we set out to do in clearing the deadwood and reducing wage bill and congratulations must be made to the board for showing real intent and kk and camoli for executing all the deals in the real Liverpool way. Lets now support the team through thick n thin, the futures bright, the future's red! Good luck for the season Red men, do us proud

Disappointed in Raul going too. Many criticise him for going missing and not tackling but it was his first season in the EPL and he was getting better and better in my view. I predict he will come back to haunt us but I hope not. Would have rather kept him and especially not let him go to a rival.
Iggypop

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:48:16
A big thanks to all the eds who make this site different and especially to ed001 and ed002 because she had the meireles deal spot on and ed001 who was always positive with his comments. Thankyou to all the other eds as well ( i am not too sure of their numbers, sorry) they have all helped with info when possible and ed009 for being positive as well. Last but not least Macca you got bellamy spot on thankyou keep it up ! Let's look forward to some cracking football now.


hibsylfc

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:39:40
happy with all the new signings this transfer window. my only problem is everytime i look at a bottle of evian i think of poulsen and how desperate we were a year ago. some people think our squad is weaker now merieles as gone. give me a break look back to then to where we are today. All credit and thanks must go to the owners, dc and the king for the turnaround in just 2 transfer windows. and eds thanks very much for trying to keep us all up to date with all that as happened and is happening. taz YNWA

I was an angry man a few minutes ago.

I was ranting at some random nameless poster for suggesting we put Kuyt back on the right of the midfield. I was beside myself with rage...... I was threatening violence and my face was purple with seething hatred whilst I bashed in my big, important opinions onto the screen in CAPS LOCK..... just to show how mad I was - I felt at that moment so angry that I could not abide joy, or life, or the mindless stupidity of this world anymore.............

and then I read your post.

"everytime i look at a bottle of evian i think of poulsen"

I swear man, I laughed so much.

tazYNWA, take a bow.

Thank you.

You brought me back from the edge.

BJH YNWA (still crying the tears of laughter.....)

Time of the month?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:35:16
Ed, can you please provide me with a little info on a question i have.

Currently Aqau is on loan. Lets say for humor that Aqau has played 25 games and we are hit with injury's is he still our player and can we recall him. Or once the 25 games hit's he no longer on loan and a Milan Player.

I share some of the concerns that my fellow LFC supporters do that we might be a little light in midfield. We have a great starting team..Gerrard Adam, Lucas and Spearing and Great youth Shelvey, Suso, Coday but we are missing a in between player. A midfield playmaker off the bench.

Just wonder where we go if Adam and Gerrard are Hurt and we have no playmaker thru the middle

---Jester--- {Ed001's Note - I believe that UEFA rules block a team from having a recall clause in a loan between different federations.}

If Adam and Gerrard are injured Henderson will be the creative mid. If he's injured Lucas will be encouraged to be more attacking and Spearing will come in. This is an unlikely scenario, but I think Lucas and Spearing are good enough to create chances against most teams, and we haven't even got to Shelvey yet

Red Ollie

I hope, meireles decision wouldn't cause us. Hope gerrard and adam are fit, for the season. And only if we don't forget, Henderson also plays a CM. Would have been great to see one more signing, but its still ain't bad. YNWA

Shelvey = Great Youth? You must be joking. He is mediocre player who thinks he is great (thanks to British media hype). Can you seriously compare him with Cleverly, Wilshere or Rodwell?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:33:12
Thanks Eds and Macca for all the great info over the summer... And here's to Hazard taking the Number 10 shirt next year!!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:32:05
Now that we know our team, we can get to talking about how our players should be played. My question is how to use Gerrard when he comes back. I see a few possibilites for our front four, start by saying Downing is out wide left in every possibility.

1-Carroll up front with Suarez playing alongside/behind him and Gerrard on the right.

2-Suarez up front with Gerrard playing in the hole behind him and Henderson/Kuyt out on the right.

I think they both provide interesting possibilities. When you think of our front six it seems like Downing, Adam and Lucas are mostly going to be locked into their positions. Suarez is going to play obviously and so is Gerrard. So it seems like there is one starting spot left open between Carroll, Kuyt and Henderson. Should be interesting to see how Kenny deploys them.

If Kuyt plays on the right, then this season will be a f*cking disaster. Be quiet you fool! - consign that idiotic failed experiment that was 'the Dirk on the wing years' to the dustbin. Or do you want us to be sh*t again?

We have Henderson, Maxi or Bellamy for the right now. All better options than Deadly Dirk. He's a striker! Or Glen Johnson, or bloody anyone but Kuyt - Shelvey, Adam, that young Silva chap... anyone but Dirk!

'I think they both provide interesting possibilities' you say.

LIKE F*UCK. Be quiet, such nonsense. I'm finally happy, and then this ..... at least you're blethering on about our 'front six' and clearly know very little or nothing about football....... but just be quiet, you've given me a headache.......

Will you people ever learn?!

aaaaaarrrrrrrggggggh!!!!!

In case you don't know why I'm mad.

DIRK KUYT IS THE WORST SHAMBLES OF AN EXCUSE FOR A 'WINGER' THAT I HAVE EVER F*CKING SEEN. DALGLISH WORKED IT OUT.... OTHERS DIDN'T.......OTHERS GOT SACKED...... NO COINCIDENCE!

BJH YNWA - (Sorry, but I've had enough, I don't want to go back there..... you can't make me! Get away from me! You can't! NOOOOOOOOO!!)

ps. A handy striker is our Dirk .... but if I hear any suggestion of him going back out wide ever again......... I may have to just end it all - Or hunt down whoever suggested it and kill them.

I do not think that would be excessive.

Reina
Johnson--Carra--Agger--Enrique
Gerrard--Lucas--Adam
Suarez--Carroll--Downing

that's how I see it. But KK has shown his willingness to adapt his tactics for different games. I like the idea of Gerrard playing off Suarez against bigger teams

Henderson--Lucas--Adam--Downing
Gerrard
Suarez

Red Ollie

You obviously have not watched any of the games this season. So far Carol and Suarez partnership is not happeing (mainly due to Carol playing like as if he his made of wood and just cant move). Kuyt and Suarez upfront is probably the best option as they seem to understand each other much better and Kuyt is more of a creator than Carol, who is a finisher only. I am also worried about Gerrard in the hole as he starts to think that he is the striker and disrupts the actual strikers form and confidence. Once he is back from injury, he should play CM or RM.

The rant guy is a total muppet. Kuyt is not a wide man he's the right sided player in a front three. When we lose the ball he stops the opposing full-back and in modern football that's vital. Check any coaching manual or recent coaching course for confirmation of this. And this is a position he plays for his country who happened to reach the World Cup final. Anyone dissing Dirk really doesn't understand football. He's talented, versatile, loyal, dogged, hard-working and most importantly a team player with vast experience. He's up there with big Sami for me as one of the leading Liverpool legend's imported from abroad.

To the guy who left the last comment calling me a total muppet.

(a) I know he's not a wideman, but he was played there for years, that was my point you idiot. Thank you.

(b) Pressing full backs can actually be done by strikers, in tandem with their midfield - this is not new believe it or not! See Dirk Kuyt and Jordan Henderson for in Liverpool v Bolton as an example. Or Suarez and Downing on the other flank. This approach is called a 'high pressing game' - The aim is to force defences into mistakes/errors, aiming to win the ball back in areas high up the pitch. This is not revolutionary...... This style is favoured by Kenny Dalglish (he's the Liverpool manager if you don't know) amongst others.

(c) Whatever 'coaching manual' you read is crap. As displayed by point (b) I do not need a 'coaching manual' - I understand the game and what I see. You clearly do not.

You do not, you rely on Sky graphics that try to convince you that teams play fancy continental formations. See Liverpool v Bolton - when they displayed a 4-5-1 (which I correctly laughed at once I saw the personnel, I was making this point of the penchant of the graphics crowd to overcomplicate the formations because they don't understand the game - such as the new trend of saying 4411 rather than say 442, It's some form of misguided snobbery - worked on you though).

Also, a flexible 442, such as the one used v Bolton may have players drifting into other areas, and switching/swapping positions - this is why it is called a 'flexible' 442. Clearly this is all too much for you and your Playstation setup.

(d) You may recall that Kuyt was s**t in the World Cup final and was taken off around an hour in.

Also, even if he had played well (I'm sure in your mind he was probably great. lol), playing well at a World Cup doesn't make a player great. I already knew this - you will learn with experience. See Diouf, El Hadji for one example. Phil Babb (record British fee for a defender) also springs to mind.

(e) I'm sure wins over Cameroon, Japan, Denmark, Slovakia and arguably the worst Brazil side in history proved that Dirk was brilliant to you. I have higher standards. Beating Uruguay was a good result, but they were missing a lot of players (incl.Suarez) as I recall. Hardly amazing eh?

(f) I know more about football than you could ever fit in your tiny little 'coaching manual' brain. I have always been right that Kuyt is one of the worst wingers/right midfielders we have ever had - go join Rafa and Hodgson with your 'coaching manual'.

6 long trophyless years, with Kuyt on the wing as the enduring symbol of one of our longest barren spells ever.

(g) 'talented' - if you mean he's a pro footballer then true I suppose, he's also a good striker, like I have already said. He is a sh*t winger though, also like I said.

What you mean by talent however, god only knows....

'versatile' - do you mean he can play on the right of midfield, or the left? then you're a clown. No, he's not versatile, he's a stiker. Thats it.

'loyal, dogged, hard-working' - so what? he's paid millions, and yes he runs a lot - when on the right it's usually in the wrong direction, trying to win the ball back because he lost it.

Poulson was dogged, so was Iain Dowie.

Who was also hard-working, a shame he was sh*t.

'Most importantly a team player with vast experience' - You could be talking about John O Shea now, or Wes Brown, or Kanu, or practically anyone over 30! Totally abstract nonsense.

He has experience of being sh*t on the wing though. He has that in spades. Which was my original point.

(h) Up there with Big Sami...... You sir, are a clown. I believe that you really mean it too, which is just sad.

(i) If you watched football for the last few years - or ever, I still doubt you would understand just how stupid you are.

Kuyt is the most wasted signing in recent history - he is a striker, and could have scored hatfuls of goals for us by now -but not in a 'front three'. We don't play a front three and haven't since Macca left...... a long time ago. Whether he is good in a front three remains to be seen.

Thankfully Kenny seems smarter than you, so I don't have to worry about that.

(j) Sign your name you clown. As stated Kuyt is a wasted striker, his best years have been spent playing as a rubbish makeshift wideman.

We are now seeing what I said all along, that with a strike partner who has pace, Dirk can be excellent.

You however, seem to think he has been a raging success all along, up there with Hyppia in fact! Hyppia, a fantastically consistent colossus of a centre-back. Years of fantastic displays, compared with Dirk on the wing.......

How low are your standards compared to mine man? Think about it. Don't even talk to me about football. Peasant.

BJH YNWA (Get back to me once you consult your manual, maybe it will tell you what to think next?....)

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:25:02
Tales from twitter...

LFC have cut £30m off their wage bill and earned about £25m in transfer fees this summer.

Chelsea have given us around £65,000,000 for a striker that has so far been a flop and our 5th choice central midfielder.

Roman has invested more in LFC than Hicks & Gillett did.

They've paid for us to sign Suarez, Adam, Downing, Coates Enrique and Bellamy.

H&G bought survival FSG bought success!

dmedly

So does it means we can call ourselves "LiverPoolski" ??

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:24:45
u know that Joe Coles been loaned out, and apparently (this isn't definent so no-one have ago at me) but apparently lfc will get 1st digs on Eden hazard, I think that's what was agreed in the cpntract :), what do u think of hazard and do you think we had a good transfer window
Please post this
Many thanks
Fodman123

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:17:36
DEADWOOD,DEADWOOD,DEADWOOD,DEADWOOD. I cant believe that we have actually managed to get rid of all of our deadwood.I can only imagine that over the next few transfer windows we may sell/retire the likes of Carragher,Aurelio,Maxi,Kuyt,Cole, and bring in even better quality as their replacements.FSG,KK,DC and anyone involved with our club should be commended on the job they have done to date. Allahs boot

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:15:10
Would just like to say thanks to the eds for their efforts not just in the transfer window, but all year round! Thanks eds, read you tomorrow (or later today :s) !
YoungRed

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:14:30
thanks for all your dosh roman ya mug!

Muzmacol ynwa

Absolutley ripped his arse through his pockets, ha ha

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:12:53
Aquilani - gone (at least 4 a year)
joe cole - gone (at least 4 a year)

Poulsen - gone
insua - gone
degan - gone
soto - gone
konchesky - gone
el zhar - gone
meireles - gone
ngog - gone
jovanovic - gone
ayala - gone
derby - gone
ince - gone

what a summer lfc have had. all deadwood gone.
now lets get behind the boys.

lfcjohnynwa

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:09:37
Thank you to all the Liverpool players that have been and gone you will always be a part of our history and will always be in our hearts and minds!
LFC

Eoghan

ps to the eds thank you for the quality site!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:08:56
I think letting merilies go was a good business. Even though he had some decent games he was too afraid to tackle and gave away possession rather cheaply. He only played well when the whole team was playing well and occasionally disappeared from the game. With all the quality additions in the midfield he was probably going to be a bench warmer so why should we pay him more wages than his current to become a bench warmer?? Isn't this the perfect example of new deadwood rising through the ranks( player who is not good enough to get into the first team and commands high wage)??

The Urchin

You were prob one of the meany fans incl myself that voted meireles fans player of the season

When was the vote held ?

The whole team was a shambles prior to Xmas and Meireles rep was based purely on his purple patch over 6 games.

What about the "bottling" in the derby and at OT ? What about the misplaced passes at Blackpool when he cost us the match ?

Lucas was the most consistent player over the season and Suarez did more in a few months than our Portuguese friend.

Take the money and put it towards someone who'll serve us better for longer.

He was PFA fans player of the year not Liverpool's - Liverpool fans voted for Lucas, rightly so

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:07:50
Bit gutted that raul has gone but if he doesnt want to play for us then then....goodbye! Stevie will be back soon and our mid field will be able to cope superbly during the domestic season and the squad well capable of winning silverwear this season plus Champions League. Bellers is a great option in a few positions and as a virtual free...a good signing. Degan has now gone and with all the others leaving makes it a great window for LFC.....lets see who we look at in Jan when we are top of the prem and looking to strengthen again...YNWA Dazred

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:07:41
Macca didn't mention anything about mereiles so let's hope there's a surprise with this one that will be announced by the club or macca

Macca did say Bellamy and Benayoun might sign at the expense of Meireles! he posted that on tuesday! Alphared

Yeah he did > go look for youself red head

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:06:18
Just want to say thanks for the great job the Eds and Macca have done over the last few months. Been a great site and looking forward to christmas.
P.S Ed, what do you think of the signings we have made during the transfer window?

Thanks again

Wheeler92 {Ed001's Note - I am very happy with the business done in this window, we have strengthened the team no end and got rid of a little of high earners we didn't need. I feel really confident for the season ahead now.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:05:48
Well lets all wait to here who we never signed in the morning. Surely we had a few bids reject. Now to play some decent football and wait till christmas for silly season to start again

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:04:54
Ed, what's the chances of signing Aguero?

dmedly :-) {Ed001's Note - git!}

He would be our player, in a week. He'd definitely be here(if not injured), when we'd play Man city at Anfield. lolz

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:02:38
ed or anyone, did anyone bid for johnson in the end? {Ed001's Note - which Johnson? There are a few of them you know.}

Michael Johnson would be great. He can run very fast you know.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 01:02:18
100% certain we have already signed Raul's replacement. Anyone know whom I speak of? Cmon macca, where are you now that our supporters need reassurance that we are ok without the losers who've slid off to chelski?

I know for a FACT we have a replacement who will bring it all together for us when he makes his debut for our revitalized squad. He's a brilliant footballer, in fact he's world class...childhood supporter of LFC- I'm talking kiss the badge sort... attacking FORCE... born leader and will never disgrace the club... will get on perfectly with our squad... anyone figure it out yet? Cmon are you all so concerned with the glass half empty that you don't see it? The man is... the one and only... our captain and secret weapon stevie g. Forget we ever had a punk like meireles on the books. He put up his middle finger to lucas AND kenny d, and we're complaining that he's left. Come off it- yeah he scored a couple of big goals for us, but that's only because the king put him in that role knowing that he would have the best chance of doing so when others were well marked. Now our lineup does not require using these tricks, as we are now the attackers. We will take the game to any team who stands in our path, and we have the weapons to strike regardless of the opponent. And the real storyline here isn't that raul has left, but rather that we have salary and cash to look forward to january with. Once we have clearly established ourselves as the team to play for- full of youth (unlike chelsea), ambition (unlike manutd), underdog status and no pressure of expectations (unlike city) and a future (unlike arsenal)- top class talent will line up to sign for us. Believe that. Now the business is done, and DC & KD done it well. Let's get on with playing some footie. YNWA azkop

Is that the Gerrard that nearly went to Chelski himself a while back and changed his mind at the last minute? Don't get me wrong, he is a great player and has been great for us but some of the criticisms leveled at Raul could also be levelled at SG....he can go missing and his tackling is piss poor. Let's be realistic about it, RM was in his first season in the EPL. How many foreign players adapted as well as he did? I for one would have kept him....but happy with all the other business....except maybe Bellamy.....32 years old and dodgy knees. Time will tell.
Iggypop

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:59:38
edss speak to me.... please tell me that there is more to this 12million price tag for miereles to chelsea.
Can players be kept on the down low tonight and announced tomorrow ? {Ed001's Note - more to it? Like what? It is not clear how much it is yet, give it time for the details to come out properly. Yes deals can be announced any time, it depends on how long it takes the FA to process the paperwork, it often takes a couple of days.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:56:07
Ed, overall I'm chuffed to bits with this summers transfers, but what do you think about the Meireles deal?

I can't really make my mind up, 12 mill for a great squad player to a rival seems very little given the similar price we paid just one year ago. At the same time however, given he's injury prone, old-ish, pretty weak in the tackle and not very versatile, as well as how he clearly wanted to be elsewhere, I can see why we'd get rid. I definitely think we could do with another CM in January though, cue Moussa Sissoko?

Also, do you know if the reported 12mill was the actual price we received for him?

Thanks,

elwebbo {Ed001's Note - it is still not clear how much we got for him, but I think it was great business for a player that wanted to go, was getting on and was only going to be on the bench at best.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:44:17
thankyou ed002 for the meireles info youhave told us about him over a month ago spot on, but one question why did he really go he really did look settled in.?


hibsylfc {Ed001's Note - we have been saying it for a lot longer than a month, it was well known he was unsettled due to the wages issue. He wanted more money and he was never going to get it, not when he wasn't good enough to be first choice or capable of getting stuck in when it is needed.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:59:48
I wish ngog or poulsen had've scored against Chelsea last season seeing as how they snap up our players who scored in our double over em last year. We cud've made out like bandits.
Anywho, thanks Raul- good player, didn't moan when played outta position, scored some valuable goals, seems a nice bloke. Hope he gets game time n does well- possible a goal every game as long as they still lose!

Also has Wilson or spearing left- hope spearing hasn't- Danny could do with game time on loan.

Ta eds and Macca!

Jason

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:58:23
Fantastic shrewd business KK Bellamy is fantastic very good buy I always thought he was a dangerous striker and he always has pace and can tackle and he is more mature now than when he was at lfc and he will give his all because he will end his career with us. He will show everyone what they missed out on.

Thankyou owners for keeping your promises we are all pleased with this fruitful transfer period the best in a long long time. Only way is up now!


hibsylfc

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:52:16
We have plenty of depth in the center of midfield. Adam, Lucas, Gerrard and Henderson all play there. Spearing can fill in in a pinch. The addition of Bellamy gives us more depth up front and on the wings. Meireles is a good player but is obvious he didn't fit what Kenny wanted to do. He was a square peg trying to get into a round hole. Our depth is fine. When Gerrard returns IMO he will likely take Hendersons spot on the right in most games, which means Henderson becomes our first central midfielder on the bench, which is fine. The addition of Bellamy and the return of Gerrard means we will have to play Henderson on the right less so he can play in the center. Gerrard can obviously also slide in there with Kuyt or Bellamy playing on the right. When fit Meireles would likely be our 5th choice center midfielder. Meaning he won't get significant playing time unless 3 guys are all unfit at once. If that happens we are in trouble anyway.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:51:58
Just realised, did any of Unkie Woy's signings survive!?

RedBean

Jones for now

Wilson as well

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:50:20
A big thanx to all the Eds for all their hard work keeping us informed. YNWA... TJ.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:49:10
I would swap bellamy for raul anyday

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:46:48
how was the deal done at 9pm wen knowone had confirmed it anywhere

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:46:16
cheer up lads , theres only 122 days to the jan window, anyone got any good rumours........lfc

We deffo gona buy a dm next

Bloke down the pub swore blind we're getting Aguero

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:46:12
Some highlights of Raul's Liverpool career:

Liverpool 1-2 Blackpool
Meireles plays 90 minutes and is ineffectual throughout

Liverpool 0-1 Wolves
Meireles plays just 73 minutes, lacking the creativity to unlock the Wolves defence

Stoke 2-0 Liverpool
Meireles plays a poor 66 minutes before being replaced

Newcastle 3-1 Liverpool
Meireles plays the entire match but shows little creativity

Erm why not him vs chelsea or when he came on against arsenal or his switch of form. theres no need slagging him off he's gone the money wasn't over the odds so we were happy to let him leave and i'm going to guess because he is injury prone.

Mate don't knock him & show some respect to the guy. After all WE promised him the pay rise & didn't stick to our words he was a quality player & adapted well in a short amount of time. How about his goal vs wolves or his goal vs Chelsea when we all so badly wanted to beat them after everything that happened, his sweet cross against man city for Carroll to score, his goals vs Stoke or everton, Wigan, his contribution recently against arsenal. He had a sweet right foot & did nothing wrong at Liverpool FC. Good luck be Chelseas best player but don't win anything and get sold on to real Madrid or Barcelona next season.

Alsky

What a load of nonsense, what about the other 40 games he played.

There is no doubt that he is one of the only players that could read Suarez movement and getting rid of him is a bad move in my opinion.

Ozone

He is gone, so a warm good bye to him. Timing was again bad, but hope it wouldn't cause us. YNWA

Silly, useless post.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:45:01
what a brill day to be a red,time for bed,my arse is numb,can i just say thx to the eds and macca,you have all been brilliant,go have a nice rest you deserve it,once again thx jimmybosun,ynwa,
ps quick one eds,who are we likely to sign in jan,

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:42:50
Good business with Meireles, 12 mill, he would have sat on the bench all season and then went back to Portugal next season for half that fee.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:41:15
LFC fans should be happy with the team we have now, with the addition of coates and bellamy Liverpool team is more stronger that the first few game and a lot stronger than last season.
Some fans are unhappy with the departure of Meireles but LFC were looking to sell him from the start of the season, they were just looking for a good fee for him they don't need to replace him we have enough in midfield, these last few days were all about getting rid of unwanted players, I think we have a good team at the moment the players just need time to jell, it's going to be an exciting season so enjoy!!
Come January kk might have better idea if the team needs strengthening.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:39:54
Now that the transfer window is finally over, I'd like to look back and list some of the most over-used, stupid, annoying and ridiculous words, quotes and phrases used in the posts. In no particular order:

"Marquee"
"Smokescreen"
"My source"
"You heard it here first"
"I'm the guy who told you blah blah blah"
"Just seen blah blah at the airport"
"Just seen blah blah outside Melwood"
"Watch this space"
"Fact"
"100%"
"I just saw on Twitter"
"I just saw on Wikipedia"
"Mark my words"
"Looks like we missed out on blah blah"
Any others guys?
Great site Ed's, just thought I'd have a bit of a laugh over all the words/phrases that make me shake my head sometimes!

You forgot t**t, t**t

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:38:37
Raul handed in a transfer request to save us money!


Raul thank you for all you have done for our club i will always cheer you on you are a proper player and a true gent!
YNWA!
Eoghan

Are you havin a laugh?

How does that work? :s {Ed001's Note - as he submitted a written transfer request he is no longer eligible for the loyalty bonus players get when they sign for another club. Usually a percentage of their remaining contract.}

No why whats your problem?
Eoghan

Well said Eoghan.

Ozone

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:38:19
Eds what we gunna do now transfer is shut ! I'm gunna miss all the ridiculous rumours :( and way any news on the raul m deal and how much it is and if it will rise ?


LFCHero :( (usually happy face but window is closed) {Ed009's Note - trust me, the rumours will continue. I've already been asked who we will sign in January.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:37:28
Just like to say thanks to all the Ed's here and I expect to meet you and all the posters here in December/January.

Thanks, James. {Ed009's Note - see you in a while mate.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:36:27
whats happened, no editting for 20 mins, need news or head will explode!!! {Ed009's Note - There is no news really... Meireles gone, all incomings finished as far as I can tell.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:36:08
Editors: How much did Meireles make a week at Liverpool? {Ed009's Note - over £60,000 a week I believe.}

He deserved no more

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:35:04
Neither Liverpool nor Merieles was to blame for the transfer of Merieles to chelski. Liverpool believe that they are better of without him that is why the did not fulfill their promise(disappointment on his part). However, merieles believe that he had been lied to and also fall down the peck order so he went on to where he can get more ,money and more playing time. So no need to get abusing him. If liverpool have fulfil their promise he would have stay put. Best luck Merieles whereevery you are but never again or at the expense of my darling Club,LIVERPOOL.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:34:50
KENNY DIDNT FANCY RM.... END OF STORY

He would have been kept if Kenny wanted him. Who do we trust Reds? Im with the King

Red Gart

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:34:30
I wish some panic-mongers would stop talking nonsense that we are weakened. WE ARE NOTHING OF THE SORT! Please stop your nonsense.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:33:14
Hi, Arsenal FC fan here. Just wanted to say that I think it's a shame you guys lost Meireles, still, I hope both of our teams can show Chelsea a thing or two.

Ted

Cheers buddy have to say arteta is a quality signing good luck in the rest of the season

Eoghan

Ted! We've sold another duff player to Chelski he really isn't that good :-)
kidmillions

Gunners improved their team significantly in the last few days...possibly 5 new starting players...

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:30:52
Apparantly we sanctioned the Meireles deal at 9pm! obviously we knew before then the outcome! what i cant understand is why we never made a bid anyone else? as it would of been reported! Kenny must have a lot of faith in our midfield! i do also but do think we're a bit light now! Alphared

Sounds like you have a lot of faith alright! Bit light? I think we got it covered adequately for a top 4 finish and can't see that raul would've helped us to anything better. Team hasn't been weakened. To be honest i think raul is a good player but just not suited to the physicality of the pl. Think he'd be awesome in the likes of spain.

Are you questioning my support for the Red's? i have got faith in the midfield but i'd of felt better with Meireles in our squad rather than in 1 of our rival's squad's! sign ya post's next time! Alphared

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:29:35
HI eds guys/gals,after a fantastic transfer window I think we shot ourselves in the foot by selling meireles,not so much that he was not replacable as we didnt replace him(parker would have fit )now we have no cushion especially with gerrard being iffy you will All scream I think we dropped two places with that move & none move.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:29:24
Ed I am really disappointed with a lot of the comments regarding the Meireles sale tonight.
Our club has made huge progress this transfer window yet the doom and gloom merchants have gone into over-drive.
Some of us here remember Meireles pulling out of a lot of tackles over the season. I wish him well but he wasn't Liverpool material or have some of you forgotten your Liverpoolfc history. Case, Hughes, Souness, Smith. These guys bled for the jersey. KK wants players of that ilk, not players who will get knocked over, roll around, have to be carried off etc as happened in Meireles' case time after time after time. Good luck to him, we got good money for him, end of story. We have better in the squad.

Spot on Mate, some on here just revel in negativity. Raul was never going to be a regular starter and probably thought he should of been, let see if he can get a regular game at Chelski? Somehow don't think so. Chelsea have only bought him because of his previous association with their Manager but there wrong he's not as good as what they've already got.
kidmillions

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:27:41
thanks to eds and macca ,for all the hard work,glad meriles is gone to be honest never rated him ,but just feel that if adam lucas or gerrard get injured,mabye we will be a bit light in the centre,off to bed now would love to wake up with news of alonso,or m sissoko as a late signing,thanks
jeff

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:26:33
HI eds guys/gals,after a fantastic transfer window I think we shot ourselves in the foot by selling meireles,not so much that he was not replacable as we didnt replace him(parker would have fit )now we have no cushion especially with gerrard being iffy you will All scream I think we dropped two places with that move & none move.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:26:19
It tells Suarez that anyone who doesn't want to play for Liverpool can leave. As massive a fan i was of Raul, he's badly let the Liverpool faithful down doing this so late in the day. No one player is bigger then Liverpool FC. If Raul wants to leave then its up to him but it just leaves a nasty taste in the mouth coming so late in the day more or less forcing our hand. Well Raul, as your friends Torres and Benayoun found out, the grass isn't always greener. And also as much as we all love Luis, you cannot base your whole transfer philosopy to keep one player happy and i'm sure that assist against Arsenal was the only one he gave Luis. Anyhow if before the window you'd have given me the in's and out's that have happened personally we've got to be happy,if Raul had've gone last night and Coates would've just signed before the deadline we'd be feeling a whole lot better,thats how i'm looking at it anyhow with my fecked up logic. If he doesn't want to play for Liverpool thats his hard s**te. Cant wait for Agger to greet him like he did Torres. Deserves a good flogging and i'm sure he'll get one when we play Chelsea. We got a some of extra pace in Bellamy to go with the rest of em. He can say money, i say its game time,with Gerrard coming back he's much more chance of getting in Chelsea's team then ours. That alone should tell us how far we've come. Jonson6

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:25:16
Still no meireles conformation? only a fee agreed

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:23:50
Well no surprise signings by the looks of it but all in all that was a great transfer window, our squad is unrecogniseable from this time last year, all Hodgson's signings are gone, which is a good thing as we were moving backwards last year and now we are clearly going in the right direction, Raul will be missed, but he wanted to leave so good luck to him, he wasn't going to get the game time any way, glad to see Bellamy back I thought he was never given a fair chance last time round. I'd like to thank our new owners, Kenny and Camoli for their work over the last 10 months, all ins AND OUTS have been spot on, you can now look through our squad and there is not one player in there who is not good enough to wear the shirt, Good times ahead!!

Gman82
JFT96

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:22:56
Great job by the Eds in guiding us through a crazy transfer window, a special mention to macca aswell who has been spot on with his info all summer.

Going of maccas post last night he said just bellamy on deadline day then back in for a striker in jan so let's see what happens between now and January, hopefully another attack minded midfielder aswell to replace Raul

away from transfers macca posted earlier about stadium plans and think it's great that they are looking at developing anfield and not a new stadium, too much history to leave behind

here's to a good season

MC ynwa

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:22:32
Some-one just tweeted something quite apt on twitter.

"sell a squad player -£12m, Everton sell their best for 10"

Actually puts it in context...

Cheers
JJ

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:21:59
Money talks,bulls**t walks. Meireles will have a great knowledge of which club has the most comfortable bench seats by the time his career is over at chelsea. Allahs boot

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:21:03
Hi all just been doing some maths not he money spent and made through sales and wages and to emit looks like that we have actually have'nt spent nothing really all recouped via player sales and wage savings so I would expect some newfaces in the Jan transfer window.

Eastlondon Red

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:20:26
I was just at the Everton pages trying to wind them , and there were a lot of heart warming posts about/to Arteta being a good servant and how good he was and wishing him well, come back to our pages and Raul only gone an hour and there are many posts about how crap he was and he wont do any good at chelsea.
Many of you lot are an embarrassment to yourselves and the club, he is a much better player than a couple of our recent signing and can see him doing very well in the champions league for chelsea.
We lost a very good player, good luck to him, I do hope we will do better and he will end up regretting leaving, but I have the feeling he would wont.
Roy

What are you on?

Its roy hodgeson dont mind him,he's just cranky because ferguson didnt give him milk and cookies before bed
RedKev

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:19:30
with all our so called problems tonight, can we all spare a thought for our neighbours.............................................worst transfer window ever lol

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:13:30
Question to the eds - is making a loan-to-buy move during the loan window that's coming up possible? If so, hypothetically, how viable an option is it as by-passing the transfer windows for buying a player?

Premier league clubs can't participate in loans to other prem clubs as they aren't in the window, unless during Jan or Summer

Signed Ben

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:13:00
Is Transfer Deadline time over

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:10:50
We are stronger than last year, but mostly in attitude and heart. On paper the talent is questionably better than last year. Now we all know where the proof will lie, but I worry that while we may be better, we have thinned out a little too much.

There is no question..............

For gods sake we have only really sold 1 decent player in this window Meireles, Aquilani might have
looked good in pre season friendlys, but could you really see him putting in a shift on freezing cold
night against one of the lesser teams ? and you dont get the nickname crystal for nothing.
and as for the squad being to thin why? because Poulson, Degan, Ngog, Soto, Cole,and Nabil el zhar have gone
Look whats been signed since January... Suarez, Carroll. Henderson, Enrique, Downing, Doni, Coates, Adam, and
Bellamy. Lets be a bit more positive instead of the glass being half empty

Deano95

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:09:20
All the players Roy got last summer are gone don't know what ti feel about raul dont think he would have got into the first 11 when all are fit but wont have been bad to have around.

Danny Wilson gone too?

Oh wait you already knew that! Right?

Signed Ben

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:09:09
Why is everyone still dreaming about Adam Johnson thinkin the Raul money we got means Wev bid. Ssn haven't even had a sniff of Liverpool being involved in a deal. Sad to see meireles go and would have loved to see AJ come in but it's all over guys... Is it not?

It's all over for now but Meireles was a big earner and we've cleared loads off the wage bill this summer. Phase 1 of the buying project, to become a top 4 club, is complete. We have space in the squad for phase 2, becoming title challengers, when the time is right. Names like Hazard and A.Johnson will be looked at once we have made top 4, not before

Red Ollie

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:08:58
Feeder club for Chelsea? Behave yourselves. We've took £70 million off them in the last year, and they've got 2 goals to show for it. We're still a much better squad than them, and I'll give you a pound to a penny we finish above them this year.

Chelsea have a much stronger first team , we have signed average players

I pray we top Chelsea this year, but if you think we have a stronger squad than them you must be dreaming. Chelsea have an allstar team, but just don't gel together.

Allstar squad and team my hole. Aside from maybe Mata, Luiz and Essien, there isn't a player I'd have from them over what we've got.

Go support Chelsea then if you are in such awe of them

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:07:58
would just like to say a massive thanks to the eds and macca, especially the eds as they have done spectacularly well coping today. I would also like to thank the people at liverpool fc for the great job in shifting all the players we didn't want or need as well as bringing in some brilliant players.
huddz red {Ed010's Note - lets look forward to what we love, a season of football!}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:07:42
Well done LFC, fantastic transfer window. I know a lot of us were all hoping for a big surprise deadline day signing but massive credit is due in the way we we managed to move on almost all of the unwanted players. Have added real quality and puts us in a strong position should we wish to bring in 1 or 2 in January.

YNWA.

Chally

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:07:18
Thank u eds!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:07:10
So our real squad looks like this (not counting the young ones for the future):
GK: Reina, Doni
RB: Johnson, Kelly
CB: Carra, Agger, Coates, Skrtel
LB: Enrique, Aurelio
CM/AM: Lucas, Adam, Gerrard, Henderson
RW/LW: Maxi, Downing, Kuyt, Suarez
ST: Suarez, Kuyt, Carroll

I know it's only one guy but this seems weaker than before Meireles and Aqua left. No flair with the exception of Suarez and Gerrard....

Interesting season ahead!

Plus Bellamy. Not bothered by other people's opinions he's got pace, skill and can score he will work like a dog when needed and if playing for the team he supported as a boy UNDER THE KING he will be the signing of the season. He will be awesome under kenny

U forgot bellamy

Yeah all that flair, have you ever watched a game of football in your life. Either that or you don't have a clue on the meaning of Flair. I'm sure that by Sept 11th they'll be Dalglish out signs at all the games because we lost Aquaman and Meireman in this window; two average at best players who don't want to play for us; but passionate and hard workers like Henderson are berated for not being foreign.

Signed Ben

What about Bellamy he can play right or left and up front, also our two young full backs could help by pushing aurelio and Johnson into wide midfield. I think we've got a better 25 now, stay positive--finisher

Obviously Wilson, Flano, Spearing and Bellamy aren't here because...

Nice post

Bellamy?

Add Bellamy and Spearing in there mare theyl play first team football this year

Plenty of flair down Arsenal way. aqua soft. meireles soft. cole gone for now, poulsen gone. quality signings in. great transfer window.

You forgot Bellamy

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:06:56
why did liverpool announce meireles had handed a transfer request in 30 mins before the deadline then ten mins later it was announced he had signed a 4 year deal at chelski,obviously the deal had already been agreed or why announce the transfer request,would this of been kept quiete if the deal hadnt gone through?any thoughts ed

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:06:22
miereles = worst piece of business liverpool have ever done if a player is not involved in the deal.
Why have 14 or 15 mill in the bank now ?
A.Johnson should have been lined up and then raul sold on, or sturridge involved in the deal.
Why help chelski out after failing to land Modric by selling them an as good player for half the price !
Dissappointed Red {Ed010's Note - releasing players and having to pay a chucks of wages for cole and aquilani costs money}

Worst piece of business ever? Behave. Losing McManaman on a free was bad, losing judas Owen for £8 million was bad, buying Poulsen, Konchesky, Keane and Aquilani for instance was bad. But this? Getting rid of someone who doesn't want to be here? A sensible decision from the King and Comolli.

Why have £14 million in the bank? Stupid question. Why pay £60k a week to someone who doesn't want to be there and not be first choice.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:05:55
Could there be a last twist in the tail?

Nope. Sort of feels like after the january window: we got stronger but we lost some talent too.

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:05:46
Whats the situation with Brad Jones now?
Has he already left the club?
If not when do you think he will finally leave?

I assume he (Brad Jones) is being kept as experienced backup for Pepe and as competition for Doni. If by chance Pepe was injured, Jones would be a good experienced option for the bench, we have all scenarios covered in this regard.

The main advantage to him staying is that it allows us to loan out Peter Gulacsi, who is imo the best young goalkeeping prospect we have seen at the club for some time.

Gulacsi is expected to mature into a quality goalkeeper, he was preferred to Jones on the bench for most of the 2nd half of last season.

His loan out to Hull this season will be good for him and hopefully will ensure that when Jones does leave - Gulacsi will be ready - hopefully by then we will be back in Europe and Gulacsi will get some first team games.

I do expect him (Brad Jones) to leave however, but whether in January or next summer I do not know. But he is playing a role in our plans - apparently he's a nice guy too and contributes to a happy atmosphere at the club.... trivial I know, but Kenny likes a happy group!

BJH YNWA (I hope that helps answer your questions!) {Ed002's Note - Brad Jones will soon be released from his contract.}

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:05:41
And thats a wrap! , pheeew. That was was some addictive stuff. We must put in mind that we came 6th last season when we could have been in the top 4 if the King took over from the beginning of the season, WITH A BLOODY WEAK SQUAD. So lets be patient and get behind every player and member of staff through thick and thin and keep that reputation of being the wisest supporters and be more than happy and statisfied with the squad we have. I know Iam + excited.
Kenny, Commoli&Scouts and John Henry and co have done one hell of a job we must appreciate.
Eds, Macca, Reds, posters, and the annoying whiners and dreamers u just want to smack their heads I'll miss u all and see ya in Jan.
(Fulham: Bellamy vs Riise, wonder how that will turn up).
SudaneseReD

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:05:39
Ed dont you think that Chelsea tapped Meireles and Torres up? for the 2 of them to put in transfer request's in hour's before the deadline just do'snt wash with me! feel's like we've been mugged! Alphared

We've mugged them more like, £62 million!

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:04:59
Ed, Despite the transfer window closed aready, Can there still be any sign announced by tomorrow?

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:04:55
f*** me he knows his stuff, luk at the time yesterday.
Legend lad.. L1 Anf


30 Aug 2011 20:45:59
I personally would not get overly excited for any big signings..

Other than Coates i believe we may only sign Bellamy or Yossi at the expense of Raul, not a great loss in my opinion..

Raul is a good player but i believe we have better players in his position especially when Gerrard returns..

The info i was told was we would try again in Jan for a striker, the club feels Carroll, Suarez and Kuyt is enough cover for now..

I hope no one is too disappointed with the summer signings. I believe they look great and we have a very bright future..

I also have news on the stadium but will go through that next week..

Thanks for listening..

Cheers

Macca {Ed010's Note - This is the real Macca}

Good on you. Absolutely agree that it's been a good summer. Great times ahead for this club... we're moving forward

Couldnt agree more. All the ngative posters need to educate themselves on some re-runs of our games last season where Meireles didnt score!...

Thanks Macca lad. Look forward to more info on the Stadium and January speculation from you...

Cheers...

Red Gart

Macca ur info is brilliant..

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:03:47
"31 Aug 2011 22:46:37
Calm down lads we've got 12million for miereles and had a 17million bid for a Johnson accepted. Crazy but good for the heart.

Mcnarry ynwa"

Can't help but notice you got the reported amount "correct" before the BBC first broke it. Maybe wishful thinking but I hope there is something to your post

Drewzer

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:03:33
Why all the upset about Raul?
Overrated. went missing in a lot of games. too weak for centre mid. would be 4 players ahead of him in the pecking order. No hard feelings - hope he scores past the Mancs!
Fantastic work all round by the club this summer including shifting the dead wood.

Good work to the Eds too - the site has kept me entertained all summer. Look forward to tuning in again in Jan!

Come on you Reds

Well said m8.. Raul also pulls out of a strong tackle,which cant be accepted in epl...

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:02:28
hi ed's
i would just like to say whoever performed the miracles of totally clearing the decks of deadwood well done, so now looking at the squad it looks far more healthier than back in may/june.

lfcscott

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:02:09
I'm amazed how many liverpool supporters seem upset by the fact we didn't sign more attractive last minute deals. We have Bellamy, who i dont like but will be effective, Coates, who in time should be fantastic, downing who is really undervalued by many people in my opinion, Adams, who again in my opinion is a great signing and seeing him and gerrard work together should be mouth watering, plus a very effective winger in in enrique.....honestly cast your mind back to before KD nd our new owners....we got Poulson and some other terrible signings!

Its not Adams!

ADAM ADAM F##king ADAM! i agree with the rest though !

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:01:58
Why do teams leave it so late, they could easily have done this before, eg now everton are f***ed, lost their best player with little in replace, and it must be done so quick and unthouroughly, the only positive is maybe thyel get more money or less of theyre unwanted , but apart from that... :S

 

 

01 Sep 2011 00:01:07
Thanks for the info this summer eds!

Gutted over raul! Really thought we would of got a replacement! Ah well bring on this season!

Welcome back Bellamy!

YNWA
RobLFC

Jonjo shelvey will be a superhit to replace meirelss and could launch spearing

 

 

31 Aug 2011 23:58:52
so if fully fit our 1st XI ough to be:

Suarez
Downing, Adam, Lucas, Gerrard, Bellamy
Enrique, Agger, Carragher, Johnson
Reina

That leaves the following as a sign of strength in depth:

Carroll, Maxi, Spearing, Henderson, Shelvey, Kuyt, Kelly, Skrtel, Coates, Flanagan, Robinson, Doni.

Is this squad good enough to secure top 4, I'd say yes. Is it good enough to challenge for the title.... not sure.. we will need to be lucky on the injury front.

Luke

Coul use danny wilson in carling cup cl player

 

 

31 Aug 2011 23:58:50
I was very happy with what DC and KK have done for liverpool this window, right up until the final 30 mins. Not for the sale of raul but because we have got chelski out of a huge hole. They were holding on for modric a player they really need for that position and failed in doing so. so turnt to raul instead and we have let him go for hardly anything compared to what they were willing to pay for Modric and why when its probably the perfect time have we not jumped at the chance to involve Sturridge in the deal. Extremely disappointed, poor business in my opinion.

 

 

31 Aug 2011 23:58:43
When Chelsea are buying players that can't get in our first XI, it's a sure sign we're going in the right direction! The balance of power is shifting.

BJH YNWA

We are chelsea's feeder club

What a load of b****cks. For every player we've sold to Chelsea, we've had better as replacement.

It was good business.

 

 

31 Aug 2011 23:58:26
Two for every position for only three competitions. Poulsen, N'Gog, Cole, Degen, Konchesky, Jova, etc all gone. Great work, we'll do mighty fine this season.

------------------ Reina -----------------
------------------ Doni ------------------
Johnson - Carragher - Agger - Enrique
- Kelly -- Coates -- Skrtel -- Aurelio -
------------- Lucas - Adam -------------
---------- Spearing - Shelvey ----------
Henderson ----- Suarez ----- Downing
Bellamy ------- Gerrard ------- Maxi
----------------- Carroll -----------------
------------------ Kuyt ------------------

-Shane.

 

 

31 Aug 2011 23:58:24
People please, Raul leaving is good news. KD + DC must be relativly happy with Steven Gerrard's fitness if they let Raul leave.

 

 

31 Aug 2011 23:57:19
Just read this elsewhere taught was
Interesting in comparison to last years
Transfer highlights, ( Joe cole konchesky ha

Enrique for Konchesky, Coates for Kyrgiakos, Henderson for Poulsen, Downing for Cole, Adam for Aquilani & Bellamy for N'gog. Great business.


taken £30m off their annual wage bill, also gained £80m in transfer fees and spent £110m~ since January. Net spend great value

Well done kk & dc

Keep the putters away from c bellamy do

Aldered

 

 

31 Aug 2011 23:56:52
Liverpool team:

Reina
Johnson--Carragher--Agger--Enrique
Gerrard--Lucas--Adam
Suarez--Carroll--Downing

Doni, Coates, Kelly, Henderson, Maxi, Bellamy, Kuyt

Not even on the bench: Skrtel, Wilson, Flanagan, Robinson, Aurelio, Spearing, Shelvey

How good is it not to see the likes of Poulsen, Jovanovic, Cole and N'Gog in that team? Meireles was cr*p until January last season, overrated if you ask me.

We've improved a hundredfold since last season so stop whining about Meireles and look at the players we do have. The future's bright, the future's red

YNWA

 

 

31 Aug 2011 23:56:34
hi ed
just a few thoughts re deadline day. it is a rarity and refreshing not to be scratching around for players who could not get in a top 4 side.glad we didn't get benayoun - not good enough and wanted to leave and go to a bigger club?.mereiles can't get in the team and has obviously had nando crying down the phone telling him to put in a transfer request.imo great business at 12m and the last of woy's signings.bellamy has unfinished business and a typical kk player - loads of balls and loves the club. i also think it's a testament to the owners that we've done our business early and got quality players in.the first team and squad are now what we need to push on and win things.kk and sc have it just right. we will soon be back to our fabulous and glorious best.great times ahead
stu

 

 

 
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