Liverpool Banter Archive May 01 2014

01 May 2014 20:06:09
If Andy Carroll scores an equaliser in the last minute of the season to win Liverpool the title, will the £20m hit we took on him have been worth it?
For me it would.

Never mind Carroll ken, what price your under crackers for services to the cause if we win? I'm not bidding just saying lol!

I'd have to agree ken, even more so if downing crossed it ha ha

It's well worth £20m of someone else's money yeah haha
Car rolls best game for us was against city. Let's hope he murders them again.

Yes it would for sure

I think you guys are in to something here this may just happen

01 May 2014 16:25:56
I know some may not agree with me, but I think we have a lot to learn from Atletico Madrid if we are to be successful next year.

I can also argue that Atletico could learn a thing or two from us.

It is also worth noting that Atletico are a year ahead of LFC with their Manager in a slightly less competitive league in terms of overall strength.

But, what they have done is nothing sort of phenomenal IMO.

And they sold their best player

01 May 2014 22:19:31
Not only did they sell their best player, they replaced with with a younger striker already at th club.

I think Atletico are the most balanced team currently, it would take special individual performances from Real to beat them. Costa…I feel your pain Brazil.

Not trying to play Devil's advocate, but people sai the same about Dortmund last year. Yes, they are still good team, but nowhere near last year's level. Consistency over several seasons would mean more.

Also, while Atletico are the 'second' team in madrid, I think they still offer big wages and their squad isn't solely homegrown. They are certainly punching above their weight, but they have always been able to attract top talent (and earn a ton of cash when they sell).

I don't think we need to model ourselves around orher clubs. We are setting our own example

{Ed002's Note - The wages they pay are far less than the likes of Liverpool.}

The PL team pay more wages don't they?

QPR have spend more money this year in wages than Atletico; I heard somewhere.

01 May 2014 16:03:06
How many points from their possible last 9 do you think Manc City will get and who will they slip up playing against?

They will drop points to Everton draw most Likley but Liverpool don't do nothing easy I can see us on the same points last game of the season with west ham parking the buss at the etihad and us winning in the last min

Or Carroll to bang in a bullet nut best 35 million we ever spent!

I hope not
I would think the players will go all out to win against Palace if City do drop points.
City will be wary going into their game considering their recent run of games at Goodison so I too am hopeful they will lose or draw that one.
As the others are at home I can't see them dropping points there. But stranger things have happened.

Our percentage chance of the title is hard to work out. Everton v City is the defining game for me. Everton win and Liverpool have 2 ways to win title - with 4 or 6 more points. A draw means the pressure is on us and stats suggest we draw a lot of games away against teams in and around Palace. Newcastle, Swansea & WBA. City win and our prospects look bleak. Chelsea need both City and Liverpool to drop at least 3 pts each. Winning on goal difference from Chelsea isn't out of the question.

I think They'll win em all now Toure's back. Sadly IMO I feel we blew our chance. But what a great effort from everyone at the club.

Lets be realistic lads, city will smash West Ham and Aston Villa, we MUST win both our games, our only hope is Everton taking something off city.

I think City if they are going to drop points then it will be when no-one expects them too. My guess for the game where they may drop points might be villa.
Villa have a decent front three with a lot of pace and the fans will turn up expecting City to batter them.
having said that I hope they lose all three!
While there's Dimechelis there's hope!

Who are a Villa's decent front 3? Benteke is injured and ask any Villa fan and they'll tell you Agbonlahor and Weimann have been shocking this season. Afraid it's only Everton who can save the day. the Hammers have shipped about 27 against City this season.

Love the idea of City dropping points against Everton, but despite their history there, I think they are firing on all cylinders now and Everton are losing form and momentum (since Crystal Palace loss). I really think Villa or West Ham are more likely bets. Aside frim the losses to Chelsea, they only seem to lose to bottom teams (and ofcourse, the mighty men in red!). No matter what, it will come down to final day of season. Possibly final minutes. My heart tells me we will win.

The only way liverpool are going to win the title this year is by scoring 12+ goals in their remaining 2 games hoping city don't score many in their wins.

Really surprised people think it will be so easy for City. They have lost 4 of last 5 at Goodison with equally good teams. City's *^%# fell out 2 years ago when they had to beat QPR at home. They scraped past them with the last kick. Admittedly their chances are improved as Everton are without Barry, Jags & Distin. Bobby Martinez wants 5th though so they will be motivated.

Just going to say that same thing we need two 7 nil wins and I reckon we'll win it with that! I know, I know.

Although the Toffees did lose against Palace and Southampton they have an excellent record against the big sides at home.
Over to you bkues

01 May 2014 15:55:49
Can Liverpool stop hemorrhaging money and sustain a team which is competitive in the League and Champions League with transfers and wages for good to top players being so expensive.

Seems a catch 22 that to break even or make profit we need to cut back on wages, transfers or stadium plans but to remain competitive we need to spend on all 3. It's no coincidence that pundits, media and fans are saying United need a £200m splurge to compete for top honours again. Developing youth is perhaps an answer but look where that's got Wenger.

Answer on a postcard.

{Ed002's Note - When the next set of financial results are released in March 2015 there will be an improvement. And again, in March 2016 you will see a further improvement.}

The club seem to be doing a lot on the marketing front to further promote the brand globally and positively effect revenues. Slowly but purposeful.

01 May 2014 13:00:49
Well, I know who to blame for the loss on the weekend. My cousin received a season ticket this year and he has only missed 2 home games this season. The first game was Southampton and the 2nd game was Chelsea. He has officially ruined us by going on holiday. He changed his holiday to miss this game and make it back for the game against Newcastle.
GOD

Anyone who's username is at all linked to a deity or current/ex player should be banned IMO :)

01 May 2014 11:18:42
Seeing rumours of cavani going to Man U, if we can't get him with CL football, a top 3 (minimum) finish and his best bud suarez playing for us can someone tell me why he would go to Man Utd? Not saying we should go for him its unrealistic but surely its even more unlikely for him to go somewhere else in premier league other than chelski or Man City

{Ed001's Note - are you really this dense? We can't afford him, they can! When are some of you going to understand the losses the club is sustaining???}

I meant in terms of the player himself I know we can't afford him but if you were at a club that had rich owners paying you a fortune would you move to the premier league to play for Man U who aren't in CL finishing 6/7th and don't know who their manager is. If I were a player out of the clubs who could afford i'd only go chelsea or Man U. If we could afford him then us as well obviously, I don't think I made it clear I meant in a players view rather than financially viable.

{Ed001's Note - how can that be relevant. We can't afford him, so it is not a question of choosing between us, we aren't in the running at all. So it is a choice of going to United, and playing regularly, or staying in PSG where he is unhappy and has already made it clear he wants to leave.}

I hope they blow 50 million on him, don't rate him

Hi ed001

i did not know we were making big losses what's the ball park figure are we losing, I know we will have money for being in the champs league and also that the owners was only going to give BR a medium sum of money every bit helps, so what type of player or players could we afford in the summer, I trust BR because he has shown with a little amount of money he can find very good players who are not over the top price wise, any way we have taken our 1st step towards the glory years to come, that's all it needs one step at a time

mickey b

{Ed002's Note - £1M a week since the owners arrived.}

I don't think you are dense for asking, but he will surely be stuck going to one of the richest clubs after playing at PSG. Wouldn't be surprised to see either of City, United, Chelsea, Bayern, or Madrid signing him. His stock has fallen since last year, but he will still command 45 milllion, with 200/week wages. Also, we don't need him. Borini coming back!

01 May 2014 09:31:19
What a lesson of football from Athletico yesterday and what a lesson of tactics from Simeone to Mou. The face of Mou after the third goal was priceless, I loved it. The player who impressed me yesterday was Juanfran. He was awesome with his frequent moving forward and coming back to defend and his crosses was immense especially the two assists he made. I would love to see him at LFC next season to replace Johnson. I know some of you will tell me we have Kelly and Wisdom but to move form a good to an excellent team you should have a RB like Juanfran.

Probably the first time you have seen Juanfran. He is a solid player, having being converted to a RB by Atletico, but IMO, he is not a whole lot better than Johnson.

I think you'll find Johnson would be snapped up by a massive club if we didn't agree a new contract. He looks laid back but he's asked to get forward so when we lose it and teams break he can get caught high up the pitch. Doesn't mean he isn't a fine player. Kelly and Wisdom are light years behind, trust me. He's a top level player and they are back ups.

01 May 2014 01:05:45
Removing thoughts of wins and league/cl qualification, what's the biggest positive from the season?
I like the fact that gerrard no longer is being talked about being replaced, he hasn't been the dynamic force of old, but our new shape midfield, (gerrard hendo +1/2) is shaping up nicely, and, as much as it pains me to say it, we could build a team without him! Few seasons ago, I'd have thought we would have to buy in big to do so!
Any other thoughts?

Brendan Rodgers (the manager/coach, not the media whore). What he has achieved with certain players (an unhappy and often unhinged Suarez, Sterling, Flanagan, Gerrard, Henderson, Skrtel etc) has been unbelievable. Of course he doesn't deserve all of the credit as said players and other coaching staff can take credit also, but he has worked wonders with the squad. Rodgers is also tactically brave experimental. At his age and experience now, boy am I looking forward to what he can achieve with a few years at LFC under his belt.

Hard to pick one thing to focus on Conbicks so godd question mate.

The biggest positive for me was that we successfully challenged and yet, could win the tittle in only BR's 2nd year in charge.

01 May 2014 08:22:14
Personally, the best thing for me this season has been our fluent attack.
In the last few years we have struggled to kill teams off and score enough goals, and yet this year we have been in full flow.
At the start of the season Rodgers said he wanted to make coming to Anfield the longest 90 minutes of an opponents season, by choking possession. This didn't happen, because we stumbled upon a front 3 that could make those 90 minutes the longest of the opponents season by completely tearing them apart.
This is thanks to the emergence of Sterling and Flanagan along with a step up from Henderson and Coutinho. You also have to look at Rodgers' ability to make the most of this with his tactical set up. Pulling Gerrard back into a back 3 when attacking, so that he can pick out runs from deep, whilst also allowing Johnson and Flanagan to get forward has been superb. This allows Henderson Sterling and Coutinho to play through the middle without us losing any width, meaning we end up with a front 5.

Negatives, defense. However, a lot of our defensive issues have been individual error and so would. It expect as many problems next season. I believe that we need to look at trying Sakho and Agger together, regardless of them both being left footed. They are the most mobile and comfortable on the ball, fitting our style of play at the back. Skrtel has had brilliant season, but his man handling tactics in our box and lack of composure on the ball are a real issue for me.

Never thought I'd say this but COYB. May our closest neighbours and fiercest rivals ironically give us the means to clinch the title from the very grasp of City.

That we have a real team with spirit and belief.

For me it has to be the mental attitude and resillience of the players. Bodes well for seasons to come.

Sterling for me.

Turned himself from a decent prospect who might get the odd game into a quality player who is a certain starter when fit.

Anfield Andy Skrtel has been our best center half by miles this season hate seen him get a hard time

01 May 2014 14:10:12
He has been best yes, but that does not detract from the fact that he has more mistakes in him than the others, and does not fit our play from the back attitude.
I like the fella but if one of him Sakho or Agger had to leave then it would be him for me, although I'd rather have all 3.

For me it's been Anfield looking a lot more like, well, Anfield. Obviously results have had a fair amount to do with that but it's been great seeing home games look and sound more like what I remember from years gone.

For me its the way BR has made the players believe in themselves, young texeria said BR made him feel 10 feet tall, he came and BR told him to play is normal game and to try and score, his pass led to a penalty that gave us the win, I think it was the fulham game, not sure though, he has given the players and us fans the belief we can win the prem,

mickey b

Yeah mickey b was the Fulham game! Then gerrard pops over to him and says something like 'that was f'ing brilliant' lol!

Another thing I like is the British domination of our teams! Sturridge sterling Gerrard hendo Allen Johnson Flanagan etc, I think it helps team bonding!

Lance Armstrong and the whole Jamaican athletics teams blood tests?