Liverpool Banter Archive April 19 2013

 

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19 Apr 2013 22:06:58
Where was ibe today he he didn't playin fa youth cup game?

Basy


It doesn't really matter in 5 years time how many of chelseas youth team will be in the 1st team? Ibe will be staring in a title competing lfc team.


20 Apr 2013 00:20:31
How was the game?


Maybe he's in the squad for Chelsea, Rodgers does seem to like to introduce the youth players in big games. Sterling-Man city, Suso- Man utd


20 Apr 2013 09:50:13
to the all above posters.
One fact.
the players chelsea have loaned out. is miles better than some of our first team players.
Kevin debryune.


Harry,

First of all, Kevin De Bruyne was bought in as a squad first team player, so your argument here is useless. Second, who is a better player than us of?

The real AG


 

 

19 Apr 2013 21:46:54
Hi ed's what kind of budget will the manager have in the summer to spend. he talks about adding quality, but quality players cost lots of money. will the potential outgoings determine if we are able to sign those "quality" players. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}


 

 

19 Apr 2013 21:18:52
It amazes me all the people posting on this site saying Kenny wasted money. He had been out of management for ten years yet in his first full season back, got to two cup finals nearly winning both, and finished eigth in the league. What has Rodgers to show for his first season. Precisely nothing. The problem over the past twenty years is that the people in charge at Liverpool and quite a few supporters clearly haven't got a clue about winning. At the end of the day it is about putting trophies in the cabinet and at least Kenny knew how to do that.


19 Apr 2013 21:46:34
And keep in mind those all things were achieved wthout Gerrard, Lucas who were completely out of the season and Suarez missing 10-12 games, if those players missed that lenght in Rodgers season we would be in religation dog fight, that's how backwords he has taken us which is a big shame.


Thats true, but he did waste a lot of money regardless


Not taking any sides here, I'm just wondering if anyone has come across a list of players in (values ) and players out (values ) signed by Rafa?
Just think that would be interesting.
but I would like to say, I'm currently impressed withe way BR is heading, but the work Rafa did at the acadamy may be the long term financial saving of the club. I think BR is a bit to quick to take all the praise for the kids development, he's had no choice but to play them at times. Something KK pointed out at the begining of the season. {Ed002's Note - This has been done to death in the past - we are not opening this up again.}


 

 

19 Apr 2013 20:34:50
So much for a good youth team eh?


A successful youth team is how many members make the first team squad. Not if they win the FA youth cup


I can't believe that your crying about a youth team game, how sad some people are!

James


What's the score?


Good to see our 'supporters' getting fully behind the team again. GTFO


Chelsea certainly outplayed us and deserved to win, don't need snide remarks from oppo fans wanting to stick the boot in, at least we got to the semi final, Chelsea have some top class youngsters.


Reaching a semi-final of a youth cup. I'm disgusted. Winning doesn't truly matter, simply advancing the players further into their career as a possibly future 'first teamer'.


 

 

19 Apr 2013 20:26:49
eds, I wanted to know that it has been clear this season that brendon rogers lacks plan B so wanted to ask why is he not considering to bring back andy carrol. many times we have lacked physical presence and also a lot times we are bombarding opponent goal and then again no target to hit crosses. so really want to know about it. always Liverpool
Lykon {Ed002's Note - It is a question for him not me.}


Not this Andy Carroll and plan B. again! Give it up

James


 

 

19 Apr 2013 19:50:23
alright eds? Just wondering, do you see Liverpool bringing in a winger and playing Coutinho in CAM? Or is it more likely for us to buy a CAM and have Coutinho on the wing? Thanks for your time,
- Rookie {Ed002's Note - It is April - things will change but I named two wide players yesterday.}


Hello eds.
may I know who are the two wide players that you mentioned earlier? I already tried the search function but couldn't find it. thank you. {Ed002's Note - I said Ince and I would not rule out Dzsudzsak.}


 

 

19 Apr 2013 18:45:14
Hi eds, see Liverpool are being linked with Tello again. Any truth to it or is it just recycled from last year? {Ed002's Note - See previous answers please.}


 

 

19 Apr 2013 17:40:14
Hello Eds.
Marcos Rojas has said he is moving.
I have a feeling personally that it is to Germany.
Were we not looking at him and what is with the pre season game with Melbourne. Is this part of the deal?
Personally I think it could be some great business at the 500 k mark. He needs to improve a lot to make the step up but if he plays with better players he could really evolve {Ed002's Note - I know nothing of it, sorry.}


He's overrated! Go the wanderers


 

 

19 Apr 2013 19:03:55
Just my opinion, but Liverpool are looking for a defender who is 'Vocal' and a 'Leader'.
Now don't slate me too much for this but they don't come much more of a leader than John Terry.
He is 32 years old I know, but he still has a couple of years left in him and could be the warrior type player we need alongside Agger.
Apparently, he is 'out of favour' at Chelsea at the moment, and it looks like Abromovic is prepared to bring in younger players to replace the older generation, and in my opinion would be worth the gamble.

Red Lee


Why invest in a player who only has a couple of years left on him, who is on an enormous wage, when we could invest in players such as De Vrij who are young, experienced and already leading the line for their respective teams?

JFT 96

JP


And. 3 2 1 Your back in the room


We need the experience for sure, people want youngg players but john terry could be a great asset, one of my favourite defenders over the last 10 years.

Anonymous woolback


20 Apr 2013 00:27:57
John Terry and Liverpool in one sentence? While I admire his leadership, he's clearly past it.


 

 

19 Apr 2013 17:37:52
What's everybody's thoughts on FSG, would like to gauge opinion. Just can't make up my mind as I'm not sure what their plan is?


They invested plenty a money with Kenny think after that waist there trying to be wise with spending yeno all there eggs with Kenny and champions leagues hurt them Rogers is earning trust


Look at what they have done, not at what you're scared they might do. They have invested heavily and struck new deals. They are pushing forward with the stadium plans. How can anyone, except the paranoid conspiracy theorists, really complain so far?

cozinoz


What do you mean you don't know?

They have pumped over 150 million pounds on transfer fee alone, plus all the players who had to be released, the day to day running of the club, which continues to lose 1M per week as Ed002 repeatedly points out.

Can't you make your mind up even with all the clues?

The real AG


I think they don't get the credit they deserve for saving our club from turning into a Leeds or Portsmouth, plus the millions the have pumped into our club not only on transfers that has been mostly wasted, but managing the debt the club is trying to cope with. And after all this they receive death threats and wouldn't feel comfortable coming to home games.
I realize this isn't the common opinion so i'm expecting lots of stick.

always a red


I think they are doing an excellent job, however I would like to see a few more quality players in the team.
I believe we are only 3 quality players away from becoming title contenders.
Support for Suarez, such as Arda Turan and Ben Arfa and a proven defender.

FSG have been very supportive to Rodgers and the long term plan for the future looks very promising.

I also would like to say that Rodgers is doing an excellent job too with the players he has, and as I say, once we have a complete squad worthy of competing then all the FSG/Rodgers doubters will be proven wrong.

YNWA

Red Lee


The plan is to make Liverpool succesful so they can make a nice big profit on the club in future.

The Irish Rover


Do they have a plan B?


I would be very happy if FSG sold the club for a profit after making LFC successful.


They won't sell this club there making the Boston red sox and Liverpool be a global thing both were red both have grate history but lost along the way until these guys saved them telling ya now. Dream world but that's Americans for ya


All those people who are negative can't wait for 2-3 years when we challenging again to see you all eat humble pie fsg will make us successful again they are ensuring the future of our club by building things up from the bottom that is on the pitch and off the pitch but they don't and won't throw millions of pounds at it and jeopardise the club which personally I think a much better option than previous owners I mean if they r losing so much money every week as eds says then don't think there having fun doing that so there is obviously a plan and vision there just will take a little patience


 

 

19 Apr 2013 16:00:41
I'm not convinced by BR yet, obviously I have been prepared to give him time but then I read an interesting article about his home town.
Carnlough, it is written, got its name when St. Patrick founded a Christian group in the area and that one of his disciples, La, was left in charge of the new converts. Unfortunately, under La's leadership the converts gradually returned to their pagan ways and on Patrick's return, La was so overcome by remorse that he chopped off his hand and buried it beneath a memorial cairn - hence Cairn of La.
Surely it's an omen that BR is from the land of La?


He's still in the land of The La's.
The Juicer


Is right, maybe it's fate.

Personally, I think he is great for our club. I think even he would admit that he's made mistakes this season, and for that he will come back next season a better manager and man.

He's a relatively new manager, and even players and managers alike take time to settle-in. Look at some of the performances of some so-called established players that Kenny brought in? Unfortunately, just the brand of 'Liverpool F. C' has ruined careers and reputations of many players and managers over the years. Sometimes it's a step too far and big for certain individuals, and I hope that our manager doesn't get bogged-down with fantasist expectations of certain sections of the club.

Patience is a virtue.

DaveyBootle


Is this serious?


Although I was more of a Cast man myself samsam. Woooo!
The Juicer


All you need to know is that most players in our squad are happy and have been quoted being extremely happy with Brenden Rodgers as manager, even today John terry has come out singing his praises, I think we have the right man in charge and I will be on here saying I told you so when he's brought us success over the next few years

How do you like those apples
Ack17


I wouldn't believe any of those stories you read about St. Patrick, he was also supposed to have got rid of all the snakes out of Ireland and yet we still have a whole government full of them!


Ha, interesting post that is.
Methinks it has been more "foot in mouth" this season by BR.
Think BR has some "managerial quality", but the role at LFC came to soon!.
Like many young players who are "loaned out" to gain experience, so too I believe that BR needs to gain 'further experience'.
Not to sound 'cynical', but can the club really allow a manager to still "learn his trade, on the job"!.


The Land of La's? Hmm. maybe La La land would be more accurate.


Daveybootle = Waro's alter ego


 

 

19 Apr 2013 15:47:42
ed in everything that is being said by owners and ayre is true to say then that they are loosing faith in Rodgers? and are u still of the beleaf that they do not intend to change cheers
mike {Ed002's Note - You are reading too much in to things. They are all working to do the best they can for the club.}


The club has to come FIRST, egos and personalities aside, the correct course of action needs to be taken.


 

 

19 Apr 2013 15:11:31
Big sam and Fergie don't seem to be the best of friends anymore?
talking earlier about the west ham game and injuries to his players fergie says he was glad to get out of that war zone.
That will teach Sam to critisize him after the old trafford match.
But given the great deal they got on a brand new stadium and the big crowds they can now expect, as well as the improved TV cash, how come they can't afford Carrol all of a sudden? let's face it the FFP rules were expected when they took him on loan.


They are trying to drive down the price. Like you say they knew all about the FFP rules like every other club for years.

MIKEY


Big Sam can go and suck my spam.

He's just a loud-mouth bell-whiff.

DaveyBootle


I think he was referring to the premier league FFP rules which just got approved a couple of months ago.
But yeah, most likely he will be trying to drive the price down which is expected.


Quote of the day Daveybootle!

BigBadBen


AKA Big Scam


 

 

19 Apr 2013 14:39:35
Any truth that we are looking to sign both Josimar and Canos from Barcelona's youth system eds? Also Marco Rojas agreed a deal in Europe is that in Germany as expected {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath just yet about any of teh Barcelona kids. Rojas, I don't know.}


Rojas is interesting Ed, he has anounced he will be playing in Europe next season but no one seems to know where? {Ed002's Note - Does it really matter - the Antipodeans here don't think much of him.}


 

 

19 Apr 2013 13:45:55
Eds and Everyone,

How can we seriously compete. No player wants to come to us without CL. Look at united, they payed for RVP last summer. He would not have touched LFC with a barge pole? Look at how it was 20 years ago. John Barnes came to us, Beardlsey came to us, we could just pick and choose then. We could have pulled Messi
back then. Why would Erikson want to come play for us, why would Suarez want to stay? We need to have a serious look at ourselves and decide just how we want to go forward. On a sell + buy basis it will not be easy. My question is just what happened to LFC, what happened to the Roman empire? Where do we go now?


19 Apr 2013 16:52:58
Champions league is not the big pull for players, money is big factor for now and plays big role, if Liverpool shows money players will run to play for us, don't forget van persie didn't go cheap despite to a team where trophys are guaranteed both transfer & wages wise, so that speaks a lot what pulls players especially at 29 and demanding that transfer fee and wages where Liverpool are not even in top4 compare to united so we all know if we want class players what we need to bring them, Footy is pure a bussiness nowdays, for owners, players etc even for fans after all they are customers for their respective club aren't they?


*poke the bear, poke the bear*

20 minutes later

'Wow, probably shouldn't have poked that bear'


The champions league is a great draw no argument, but when we were in it we were not getting the best players in the world ( Alonso and Torres were Rafa gambles that came off). And like wise City were not in there but could get them in, why? Money, transfers and wages.
We got Suarez because his reputation scared others off at that price. Courtinhio had had a poor time at Inter and needs another ibg club, again a bit of a gamble.
This is why the Erickson rumours concern me, he is wanted or at least been watched by a load of top clubs and won't be cheap, BR earlier in the season was full of how he saw Suarez in that floating 10 position, we have young Suso ( still to prove himself ) and we know Gerrard can play there, and has a couple of years left.
Who would be surprissed to see Suarez leave, along with Carrol and Skertle, coats, assaidi, and Erikson a right sided player another CF a holding mid, and a CB signed?
The squad would be stronger, the books probably balanced, its the sensible reason for the interest in Erickson, and there's less chance of Suarez screwing up again and his transfer fee plumeting and affecting sponsorship deals.
Got the Suarez T-shirt and love him but?


 

 

19 Apr 2013 13:36:27
Why the need for gordon taylor to come out and defend the decision to have LUIS SUAREZ up for player of the year the fa are a joke LUIS u won't win it fergie will make sure of that oh let's not forget gill (tool) but me been a nuteral fan I say u deserve it but before u lot of mancs and the rest have a go if any 1 player deserves it its SUAREZ he is MAGIC van persie top player bale top player but both can't match him


Bale can match suarez but on this season suarez has been the best player in the league.


Check the odd's, I would imagine the bookies have a very, very good idea on who footballers voted for.


Totally agree with you mate taylor should keep his gob shut but its that time of year when he comes out the woodwork to throw a big party for the footballing family to thank them for another year of money making and for his million pound salary he get from them as being not only the highest earning union boss in country bot also the only one whos position in that union cannot be challenged he's there till he retires or dies whichever comes sooner


 

 

19 Apr 2013 13:17:55
Liverpool are trying to make Eriksen their first signing of the summer. There has been dialogue between LFC and Ajax, obviously there is lots of interest in Eriksen but LFC are making a big attempt to get him.


19 Apr 2013 15:24:53
Erriskon won't join us. simple as that.
get used to it. He might move but suerly not to LFC


Emm. Why won't he sign? People seem to think eriksen is a world beater! He isn't yet but has the potential to be a great player. Compare eriksen at Ajax to Suarez at Ajax. There is no comparison. In my opinion if eriksen moves to the prem it will be to Newcastle Liverpool or Tottenham. Possibly city but I think they will go for more high profile attackers. Eriksen may also move to Dortmund but I doubt he would get playing there with reus gozte and so on.


To be fair some of you are crediting Erikson as being better than he is. I do think he has real talent but for me he is quite inconsistent and wouldn't be so bad not signing him anyway

gareth


 

 

19 Apr 2013 12:47:40
I don't disagree entirely with people slating Rodgers. But I do dislike people who refuse to recognise the good, and only judge him on the bad. I'm sure your heads screwed on Waro, and although your posts suggest you only see the bad, that's because everybody is far more likely to post about frustrations than what makes them happy. The reason is because we are Liverpool FC and our standards are so high, all the good is just expected. I'll stand by Rodgers and trust in him until the day comes when he is doing more harm than good (which hopefully never comes). Doesn't mean I am oblivious to the fact he signed Sahin or we 've won nothing. It just means I prefer to focus on all the good he has achieved, for as long as it outweighs the bad.

At the end of the day, venting your frustration on here doesn't make you any less of a fan. Or a supporter for that matter. We support the club, not the people who help it run. If the time comes where one of those people is hurting our club, we will let them know (Hicks and Gillett for example), because we care about the club. However, some people are far too harsh and critical of some aspects of our club. I prefer to stay positive, but I'd be lying if I told you I didn't want Hodgson and Poulsen gone! Like I say, support people and they will imporve. To be fair, I don't pride myself on how quickly I judged Hodgson, but I could see we were a major project, that needed a young manager who could be here for the next 20-30 years. Hodgson was already in his mid sixtees, and Poulsen was in his mid fifties I think.

Lets just give Rodgers a chance though. He has done well enough to earn himself at least another season.

YNWA! (Adam)

P. S. My apologies for namnig you Waro, just you seem to get the most stick for being negative, and this is sort of a defense for you I suppose.


 

 

19 Apr 2013 12:33:41
So suarez is a nominee for PFA, and the tv website headline is "Bale and RVP in running for PFA award".
At least we can vote for him on their poll, it's petty but funny when he wins them. And how the Hell is Carrick on there?
Anyone know who the young players nominated are? {Ed002's Note - with Romelu Lukaku, Danny Welbeck, Eden Hazard, Gareth Bale, Jack Wilshere and Christian Benteke.}


United fans are largely calling Carrick the main reason (alongside RVP) for their position this year, he has been very good and vital for them. Key player for the champions, should be in with a shout).

Personally, I find it very unfair that you can be in the Young Player and Player of the Year catagories together - being in the senior one should discount you from the junior one I in my view. Also think that the age limit needs to change - 23 is too old to be Young Player of the Year - some players like Shaw will have been 6 years in the first team by that point!


I can't understand this. Obviously the 'Big 3' (Suarez, Van P and Bale) deserve to be in there. But the other 3? There have been better players than them this season. Hazard? WTF?! So, alternatives?
1) What does Michu have to do? Has had a blnding season
2) Baines, as much as it pains me to say it, has been quality all season
3) Zabaleta has been the best right back in the league all season
4) For his first season, Verthongen has been amazing, even popping up with a few goals

I'm sure everyone will have their own favourites, but these are just a few of mine. At the end of the day, let's just hope that Luis wins it


Bale has 250 league/international games, it's a bit of a joke really.
But some should note that he is a year older than Henderson and Allen,
one of which got praised the first half of the season and hammered the second, and the other the other way around. They are still youngsters.
No Michu,


Seeing as there are no longer 'agree' or 'disagree' buttons, I had to post to concur with your post Samsam, spot on. Baffles me how the system is seen as fair and reduces the number of players up for the young award aswell when players like Shaw as you mentioned miss out, to a senior player like Bale who has been playing for spurs since being 18!

Luc YNWA.


We have only won this 5 times in 40 years, there have been some great players in great sides in that time. And none with the baggage Suarez has.


If tnats the case why isn't carrick top of the assist board and how come they've conceded so many goals?


Suarez for player of the year! Bale would also be a worthy winner though but I think suarez just pips him because bale only started in December.

Bale for young player of the year! If he wins overall I'd say hazard. Hazard has had a good debut season. Why is wilshere there by the way? He's been injured for most of the season! I think he is the best English player around but I don't think he deserves it this year.


 

 

19 Apr 2013 12:05:49
Perhaps I'm over selling the lad, but if a move for Erikson doesn't materialise over the summer could Suso not be slotted back in?
I know ED1 is a big fan of his (as am I) and it's disappointing that he hasn't seen any first team game time since Christmas, I think.
IDEALLY, I'd get him a 6 month/season loan move but I maintain that if he was played just in front of our midfield 2 he would be very effective.
Just my thoughts
Thanks


Not many young players have played since christmas, why not? BR has used about 12 players since then, are we now everton. why has he stopped using them. Its a bit odd


Not many young players have played since christmas, why not? BR has used about 12 players since then, are we now everton. why has he stopped using them. Its a bit odd

======================

Up to Christmas we played 20 games got 28 points (1. 4 average), the 13 games since then we got 22 points (1. 7 average). I would say that's a good enough reason. we could n't afford to rotate anymore and we did n't need to because we were out of the cups, what was needed a consistent first team, the best 11 to get the results.


 

 

19 Apr 2013 11:43:00
The fact that our recruitment is decided by a committee will benefit the club when you consider the mistakes we make in the past.
I think those mistakes costed us for the past two seasons. I believe Rodgers knows what kind of players he wants but I don't know why he bought some of the players.
why did we buy borini? wasn't there an obvious better striker for 11mil.
while we bought allen for 15mil spurs bought Dembele at end of the transfer market for 15mil.
however think countinio and sturridge will be class if there are quality players around them.
The DOF role needs to be addressed this summer and then;

1 striker, I midfield player with physical presence and 1 creative player is what we need. and replacements if carra, coates, skrtel and reina are leaving. we may also need a cover for left back

come next season, I hope we are still fighting for something at this of the season.


We need:
1x CB
AM
RW
DM (who has the ability to fill in at the back like gustavo as he can play CB LB too where we are weak)
Maybe two CB if skrtel Coates and carra go but I'd rather give the kids a chance!


 

 

19 Apr 2013 11:31:33
moring eds and reds. just read that ian ayre confirmed Liverpools transfers will be decided by commitee rather than br himself although he will no doubt have imput in targets but is that really a good idea? or is a sign they don't trust his judgement on players.

{Ed002's Note - To me it is a good idea.}


19 Apr 2013 11:49:56
One of the best news ever :))


19 Apr 2013 11:54:29
how would ed. would brendon give them a list and ask them to try sign them in preferance order? or would he be told the teams weaknesses and make do with what he gets. {Ed002's Note - No, it will be a collaborative process.}


That is'nt strictly what he said. He stated that a player would not be brought in on just an individuals whim.
Now there must be detailed scouting, player profiling, financial considerations and statistical analysis to back up who the Manager and his teamput forward as the players they would like.
He also stipulates that the manager picks and won't be getting players he doesn't want.
The very fact we were not doing this before is worrying, but goes some way to explaining the mess we got into.
When people come on here and say there is no improvement, they just don't see that we are at last starting to be run properly.


I know spurs and arsenal use a committee as well


This is a very good idea. I'm glad to see some clear intervention from them, one of my gripes as a fan with American owners is often feeling that they aren't hands on enough.
So very good news.


Ed002, I presume this committee will decide on "outs" as well then?
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - Broadly yes. However "outs" are often driven by retirements (e.g. Carragher) or players wishing to leave (e.g. Coates). But I would think that it would be less likely to be this group directly considering offers of any significance.}


Hmm. And where do you see the manager in considering "offers of significance" (let's say Suarez and Carroll) - left to pick up the bits?
And then consult the committee to recruit?
I was interested to see Ian Ayre's name as a member of this committee also. I'm not aware that he holds a UEFA coaching badge or has direct expertise in performance etc. What do you see his role on the committee being?
Ta ed,
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - You need to remember that left to his own devices Rodgers has not managed to achieve the target he had. Such a process, as used by many other clubs, may well improve matters. Ayre will focus on commercial matters.}


Hmm. And where do you see the manager in considering "offers of significance" (let's say Suarez and Carroll) - left to pick up the bits?
And then consult the committee to recruit?
I was interested to see Ian Ayre's name as a member of this committee also. I'm not aware that he holds a UEFA coaching badge or has direct expertise in performance etc. What do you see his role on the committee being?
Ta ed,
The Juicer {Ed002's Note - Ayres will focus on financial and contractual issues.}


That's great news! Our summer signings were terrible and were all BR but our January was fantastic!


Did we not have this system many years ago? didn't shankly refuse to join LFC the first time approached because of this system and only joined us when it was agreed that commitee would not pick transfer targets and teams? so if the best manager ever to manage our great club says it did not work why would it work now?


 

 

19 Apr 2013 11:20:43
Hello Eds;

It's been a while. How are you guys coping? I am sure you peeps are really getting prepared for the long break where you have to deal with all the sensible and senseless questions from us posters. Well. we all are just trying to make ourselves a tad bit more happy.

Do you know if we are already looking at anyone ahead of the summer? Or if we have started making moves for any player? {Ed002's Note - Try reading the posts please.}


All that 'catching up with eds' for nothing. Ed002 1-0 Oseunfunmi


 

 

19 Apr 2013 10:55:07
Susan Black replaces Jen Chang as Liverpool's official director of having-a-lady's-name-but-being-a-man.


Susan Black is a woman.


Didnt johnny cash not only sing our song ring of fire but a boy called sue!


 

 

19 Apr 2013 10:50:17
There has been much debate about Ericksen and other players that we need and the failure of Carrol. Building a team takes time. Our back line is relatively good but the reality is we have no aerial threat from here and also in terms of defending set pieces we are found wanting. Carra is good at reading the game but let's face it his time is up. A player like John Terry or even Luiz is needed. These are exceptional defenders and if you don't have them in your youth team coming thru u need to buy them. Our midfield lacks creativity. Gerrard is a fantastic midfielder but he is not a Mata or a Silva. We have 2 of those in Coutinho and Suso but they are not played there. Lucas is good at reading the game but he is no YaYa Toure. The EPL is very physical. We need a demon like him. Mascherano was never replaced effectively. I am sure that Hendo can play this role. He has a fantastic engine and is hard in the tackle. He just needs a few words in his ear to fine tune him. The boy Diame from West ham would be a steal. He fits this profile as well and he scores. Besides Suarez we don't have what Fergie calls a can opener. Downing fails to beat his man time and again. His performances have improved but he just can't open up good sides. We need a very skillful player like Ibe but maybe he is a bit too young. Our forward is sorted. Carrol can be our plan B and what a plan he can be. He can devastate a defense. Brendan can save a ton of money by keeping him instead of selling him cheap!
Red Tony


 

 

19 Apr 2013 10:07:35
John Terry coming out with nothing but praise for Rogers saying when Terry was injured Rogers helped him saying his man management is a class above some others, countless numbers of players from Liverpool praise him week in week out saying we in proved but clueless fans on this site demand his head shows what they no so time to shut up and have faith!!


The Paragon of Virtue that is John Terry, i'm sure BR cringed when he read a tribute from him, he's not the first person you would turn to for a character reference is he! And if people don't like BR then they don't like him end of, why this constant need to aggresively defend him! Sit back and relax with smugness safe in the knowledge he will come good, then you can post all the I told you so's you like.

Waro


19 Apr 2013 11:05:37
Wow if John Terry says then Rodgers must be world class after all its sir John Terry and that's why Abramovich never considered a micky mouse manager to manage chelsea despite knowing him in and out.


People aggressively defend him because of the people who constantly aggressively abuse him.

MIKEY


Poor person to turn to for a character reference, but for an endorsement of an able coach. let's face it, the man has seen a few leaders come and go in his team he knows what's good and what isnt. Terry's knowledge of morals makes me question whether humanity has a future, but he does know football


19 Apr 2013 11:59:42
Two wrongs don't make a right Mikey!

Waro


19 Apr 2013 12:38:24
2 wrongs don't, but 3 lefts do :)

YNWA! (Adam)


I was stating that anyone who worked with Rogers thinks very highly of him and out side football Terry ain't a role model but when it comes to football he is very respected hence England captain club captain he said Rogers is good man manager not good to have a pint with you planks


Maybe its John Terry's way of having a snipe at Rafa, seeing as its common knowledge terry doesn't like Rafa.


Does terry no brendans Mrs by anychance and will they shake hands sunday at the game?


 

 

19 Apr 2013 09:54:49
To (harry scouser)

Would you be happy if we were like arsenal, in the c l every year without a chance of actually winning the thing? The money is good for the club. but as a fan I would rather build a team good enough to win and be able to compete in the league too! If as b r said get 3/4 quality players without losing any top players, then we are building a side that with be able push easily into the top four. as we are not that far away from 3rd with the team we have had this season and b r first full season. keep the faith that Liverpool in many players eyes around Europe is still a massive club.

YNWA


19 Apr 2013 10:38:16
Hanman.
I agree with your point. and I have supported the club like everyone here.
But I have also criticized some of the shocking things happening with our club and also am against some fellows here. who actually are happy with Liverpool playing in every saturday.
I belive. A club is build both on the pitch and off the pitch.
we need money. substantial money to run this club smooth. I love when some top quality players love to be a part of our club rather than this becomes their one among options.
And BTW at present scenario, we can't even compare ourself with arsenal.
they are paying their stadium debts using theor own income If I am right.
wenger sells their players and buy.

And to challenge for any honour, the first step or the basic step is to be in CL.

are there out any club who has challenged for title from 10th position?

Liverpool as a club has not been in the elite group of Champions League club. and to run such a big club you need money withon the club.

I don't know why some people never understand this.

and when people demand success, why are they abused and pushed out to suport city or chelsea.

Y are some fans here worried about city or chelsea?

Are Liverpool fans measured interms of the patience we have in ourslef?

and what's this instant success.
its been 5 years city is dominant in the league.
you honestly think. they are going to get relegated in next 10 years?

and what about chelsea the most succesful club in england past 10 years.

somehwere someone has to start. chelsea started 10 years back. city 5 years back.

I believe in my team. no matter what happens I ll still support my club.
But let's be realestic. where are we now?
yes youngsters. yes. academy. yes wages.
but where is the oputput. and how many years. ?

can anyone guarantee me here. we will be in CL. next year.
pls write and give me in a bond paper.

Dude. Opportunity comes very very rare. when came. spurs grabbed it. arsenal and city grabbed it. even everton pushing for a europe.

{Ed002's Note - Why is it so difficult to grasp the very basics of running a business, the money that has been invested in the club and the massive losses the club continues to make? You seem to be constantly craving a sugar daddy to come to the club - but perhaps don't realise that the time has come for the £100M's investment you yearn for under the current European structure.}


Arsenal have more chance of winning ucl than us put it that way.

And their team is very young at the moment, they really are a team who will only improve and push on for honours.

We on the other hand think 7th is acceptable because we are in a 'period of transition' and have young players.

No excuses


I would be happier if we were like Arsenal as they are a lot closer to winning the champions league than we are, as they are in it. They are a lot closer to winning the league than we are, because they are in the champions league every year, which must mean they are in the top 4.
Think about what you say.


19 Apr 2013 11:04:15
Ed. I don't wanna a sugar daddy to come to our club. ,. the current daddy we have is pure good. and had a very substantial invenstment with in the club.
didnt we blew the 70% of our investemnt?

apart from countinho and suarez. who has been a hit?


19 Apr 2013 11:32:43
Ed2 mate their is nothing against FSG, if you see posters they are not happy where the club is, even after sacking kenny and Bringing Rodgers nothing has changed infact we have gone backwards even europa looks unlikey which says a lot about our season and top4 ambition!


Sorry hold up, Arsenal have a young team? When did that happen? Giroud, Podolski, Watcott, Carzola, Arteta, Wilshere Monreal, Mertesaker, Kos, Sagna, Fabianski is their normal starting lineup and the only 'young' player there is Wilshere

They aren't aging and about to collapse, but they aren't young


19 Apr 2013 15:30:09
Arsenal has a habbit of being in a top 4. wether they play rubbish or not. by hook or crook they will earn close to 40 mill every year.
and suerly they are not in decline. they have a few good players and are capable of playing really well.

I don't know whom are we going to replace next season with our curretn squad.
UTD, City and Chlesea will be untouchble with some superstars flwoing to them this summer.
cavani, falcao, leondawaski, gotze, schrulle.

And with suarez future up in the air, we will have to wait and see.
probably will have to play the best football of our history next season to beat these teams.

A worried Liverpool fan


Arsenal - 10 years ago, had the unbeatable

5 years ago easily winning CL spot with young team who should get better every single

Now - middle of their career squad, all at their peak but just about clawing their way to and hanging onto the champions league stop, calling it a trophy.

Sounds like a decline to me Harry


Harry you seem to worry more about other teams then ours. Superstar players don't make the best team as many teams have found out.


 

 

19 Apr 2013 09:37:36
Hope you lot turn over Chelsea at the weekend!


Is that you Rafa?


Cheers lad, us too! Who's your team?


 

 

19 Apr 2013 09:28:48
What are the specials at the Lamb and Vulture on a Sunday Ed?

Apples '96' {Ed002's Note - Sparky has been away recently but I understand will be returning at the end of the season.}


Good good. Has Sparky gone incognito? Last time I saw him he was wearing a mask and cape.

Apples'96' {Ed002's Note - He has been travelling in his time machine.}


Is that so he can tell us all the exact time and date Liverpool sign cavani ed002? Lol

MIKEY


 

 

19 Apr 2013 08:12:59
Fifa fair play allow the top ranked team from one of the top 3 fair play ranked countries to go through to the first round of the Europa League.

Currently England are 4th. We are 2nd in the Fair play EPL ladder behind Arsenal. Will we qualify for the Europa League first round if Arsenal qualify for the Champions League and England fair play ranks 3rd at the end of the season?

Levans. {Ed002's Note - If England gets a place and Liverpool are the highest placed team that has not already qualified for Europe then yes.}


Clutching at straws again I see!

Much love


Rodgers has clearly stated that he would not accept the Fair Play route into Europe, the video is still on the LFC official site. {Ed002's Note - I suspect if it does come down to that it may not be a decision that he will take. With what has been said by Mr Henry earlier this week and the clarification now provided by Ayre, it seems perfectly clear that Rodgers' decision making power is eroding.}


We must avoid the Europa League at all costs.


The people who don't want europa league are fools. You completley underestimate the amount of money it brings in; more money= more signings!

More importantly, being out of europe for a year completely destroys your UEFA coefficients. This means if we do make it into UCL next year, our coefficients will most likely put us in the 3rd pot of the draw, ensuring we get a group like City did this year with no chance of progression.

Rant over. Stop disrespecting the europa league.


Hi ed02 just read your reply on Rodgers saying his decision making is eroding because of what henry and arye said what was said? and that surley is not a good sign is it?
cheers
mike {Ed002's Note - I would have thought that the fans would welcomed it.}


19 Apr 2013 11:45:25
Rodgers was appointed as manager to be yes man, I doubt he had any power before or after, very few managers have power in modern footy, only fools can give power to a manager who was sacked by reading and watford now only DOF needed or someone to come and help him or else more money will be wasted on mediocore players like Allen or Borini or sahin or assaidi etc.


 

 

19 Apr 2013 07:51:36
Probably more banta than a rumour but it would be nice to see BR use what he's got like he has done this year. Upfront, keep Carroll (as no one wants to pay 17m and he does add another dimension) and with sturrage and Suarez and even ngoo that would stand us in good stead.
Yes 2 CB are needed, shame Coates didn't work and as for Skrtl. He must have had his head turned last summer when clubs were allegedly offering 20m for him.
I think we have a pretty decent squad, play some good football now and have a wealth of young players who, for a few prem games could do a job for us
In Liverpool we trust, onwards and upwards


19 Apr 2013 09:21:21
Rodgers won't keep carroll and that's for sure, he is a manager who has got a way to play and won't change for carroll or any dimension which is different to what he wants or thinks.


Stop talking about Rodgers style of play as he has none and stop using difficult words like dimension which is not in his vocabulary. May be you are talking about his style of playing midgets in the set pieces.


 

 

19 Apr 2013 07:44:09
Just reading a few papers wow there coin to town on andy 1 paper is making him out to be a thug no this respect to a smaller club but if carroll made that challenge on wigans keeper nothing would be made of it just that its them its highlighted more what a fooking joke JON96


 

 

19 Apr 2013 01:06:46
If Newcastle were to go down, would they hold on to all their players or would some be available? Cheaply? Tiote/Cabaye as well as Ben Arfa would be worth a look!


 

 

19 Apr 2013 05:23:13
With remy attached to an almost relegated club, any chance we would try to net him before the start of the next season?

Noshbag {Ed002's Note - No idea.}


 

 

19 Apr 2013 03:44:44
rodgers getting rid of andy carrol without a proper replacement cost us a shot at the top four.


Ayre was supposed to get him a replacement, but failed with bids for Dempsey & Sturridge


 

 

19 Apr 2013 00:20:29
I think we should seriously consider selling naming rights to our training ground, like United. Imagine hearing this on the news;

'Lionel Messi's agent was seen inside McDonald's with Ian Ayre for contract talks. '

'Edinson Cavani to have medical at Spearmint Rhino. Dr Zaf Iqbal (lad) will also be in attendance. '

'Latest signing Ali Dia was given a tour of Tesco, before being presented with the iconic number 48 shirt. '

El Pi**edolero


Poundland has got a good ring to it.

FowlerGod.


I text Leo the other day to meet me round the back of Aldi car park. But becuase he understands very little English he ended up somehow being on the back of Ian Ayres motorbike and is scheduled to be presented at anfield, noon today.

Heard it here first.

Apples '96'


 

 

 
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