Liverpool Banter Archive June 18 2015

 

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18 Jun 2015 22:57:06
Are we looking at Illaramendi as a potential target should our efforts for Kovacic fail?

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19 Jun 2015 03:34:53
Banega would be my pick

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19 Jun 2015 07:57:14
please no more midfielders, we have plenty. Sell to buy.

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19 Jun 2015 10:46:29
If it was upto me, i would just put a ban on signing any midfielders once/if Kovacic signs. Let Allen go, and midfield options of Lucas, Can, Hendo, Milner and Kovacic give us a pretty decent quality in the middle.

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18 Jun 2015 22:40:01
Liverpool are set to reignite their interest in Dnipro winger Yevhen Konoplyanka, who is seen as a replacement for Raheem Sterling. The Ukrainian is an exciting talent and is available on a free transfer this summer. It was believed he had agreed a deal with Europa League winners Sevilla, who beat Dnipro in the final, but that hasn't materialised. Were the Reds to sign Konoplyanka, it would be their fourth Bosman-ruling deal of the summer so far, having confirmed agreements with Danny Ings, James Milner and Adam Bogdan. Konoplyanka created 21 chances in the Europa League.
On t'internet tonight.
Let's hope it's true.

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19 Jun 2015 03:39:37
Regardless we should snap Konoplyanka up. We wanted to pay £15m not long ago and his performance hasn't dropped since then. If you are willing to pay £150kpw or there for Milner what's £90-100kpw for him.

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19 Jun 2015 07:20:15
Whats 90 - 100 thousand per week for Konoplyanka? Its overpaying, just as it is with Milner. But nobody should be surprised.

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19 Jun 2015 12:36:58
I don't know, Haych. If we move on Sterling it may become a possibility, but otherwise, he would take away from Markovic's progression. I thought he was scintillating in the EL final, but he hasn't really proven himself at the highest level yet, and I don't think he's earned the type of money he's likely to ask for. At least Milner has played lots of CL and BPL minutes in his career and been a winner for a good part of it, and will be a leader from the get. Not sure Kono would adapt quite the same, though I'd honestly love to see him in.

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18 Jun 2015 22:12:16
Moving away from every Tom dick and Harry being linked with lfc for a transfer. I was wondering if there is any news on any news or info regarding the assistant manager and first team coach positions?

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18 Jun 2015 22:12:06
What is it with English youngsters? I mean they could have fielded Sterling, Wilshere,Ox, Jones and Barkely none of whom are world or even close to world class yet they deny them valuable championship experience? Madness!!

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19 Jun 2015 03:33:31
Agree - is playing at an U21 contest really below these players?

Why not tip them in, potentially win it and then use that to build confidence and give them experience of playing in a European tournament?

Seems many younger players now want to jump from a first year of good performances to being treated like a global superstar rather than focussing on continous improvement and building a legacy.

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19 Jun 2015 08:16:41
so you don't watch football on the television then!.if you did you may have noticed a certain mr wilshere,stirling,jones playing for the england first team a few days ago and if i'm not mistaken the OX was on the bench,and please don't say they could play for both because they couldnt

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19 Jun 2015 09:36:30
Your countrys finest youngsters there, well maybe not Jones, would you rather they go and play in a meaningless friendly or go and get some tournament experience under their belt and maybe a medal? I don't advise nor want that they play both but they are youngsters so why not? Give them the day off in training

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19 Jun 2015 11:19:57
welsh,they where playing in a euro qualifying game,not a friendly

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19 Jun 2015 12:15:54
Portugal had 8 players capped at senior level playing last night.

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19 Jun 2015 12:37:35
Ok my bad was thinking about the Ireland game but still, would you rather your players go out in a tournament or a qualifying game?

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19 Jun 2015 17:42:50
welsh it is a tournamentof sorts,you are in a group everyone plays each other twice and you have to qualify from that group stage just like every other tournament

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18 Jun 2015 21:37:54
Just watched Ilori against U21 England. Remind me why do we want rid? Class player.

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18 Jun 2015 21:58:58
Probably because rodgers thinks he's more tanned than he is

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18 Jun 2015 22:10:19
. because Rodgers is the football equivalent of Jon Snow, only the owner don't seem so intent on stabbing him repeatedly.

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18 Jun 2015 22:21:28
Lucky, you're about as funny as me Judy lad.

Is this what it's turned too?

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18 Jun 2015 22:50:32
Ineptitude, constant dithering and perennial incompetence springs to mind.

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18 Jun 2015 23:32:38
He's not a midfielder

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19 Jun 2015 01:03:50
Brendan will now be texting Ayres to make a bid for this ' quality' player that had an 'outstanding' game , unbeknown to himself that he bought him 2 years ago and has ignored him ever since. Once he realizes he's already on our books he'll take credit for making him the player he is today.

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19 Jun 2015 02:25:55
Bravo, Swisch! The funny thing is he just might do that.

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19 Jun 2015 08:44:14
The under 21 European championship is a different competition to the premier league if I'm not mistaken.

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20 Jun 2015 01:09:58
Poor comment! Such tournaments are used to gauge the potential of players to see if they can hack it at any league so your post makes no sense. Ilori was already playing in the first team at Sporting before we got him and we'll never know if he can play here because he was never given the chance and he's not the only one to suffer that fate under BR's incompetence. Hendo was one phone call away from being booted out of here when BR arrived so his boy Allen could play. Hendo refused and is three times the player Allen will ever be. Even Aspas, Borini, Ilori have never really gotten a fair run in the team before BR who signed all of them, disavows them. He is clueless in the TW and is nothing but a lame duck manager, ripe for the chop, thanks to the cowardly owners we have.

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18 Jun 2015 21:36:34
Are we interested in Lucas Ocampus eds?

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{Ed002's Note - See previous answers.}

18 Jun 2015 23:55:13
I can't find anything on ocampus eds! Another thing if you please, Who do you realistically believe could sign now eds?

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{Ed002's Note - Marseille are in discussions about a further loan for Ocampos and there is interest from Italy.}

18 Jun 2015 19:22:23
Evening eds, any news on firmino? He looks class! Chances of getting him. I know he's been linked with man Utd and I would be gutted if he went there. Just hoping if there is a chance? Hopefully philipe with have a word in his ear ha ha, thanks in advance

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

18 Jun 2015 19:16:18
Ed. Did Liverpool offer skrtl a longer contract?

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{Ed002's Note - Yes.}

18 Jun 2015 22:10:43
Unbelievable

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18 Jun 2015 23:34:40
Wish all you skrtl haters would get off his back,! Couple of games with any other two at club and you will be screaming for him back

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19 Jun 2015 00:42:01
Hahahahahaha scouse john have you ever watched him. Take him out and the defense improves.

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19 Jun 2015 00:48:21
scouse john. watch skrtel closely for one game. just one game. then you will see the light.

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19 Jun 2015 02:29:10
I won't be one of those screaming for him to come back. Why? I'm currently screaming for him to get gone from our club but Le Nez ( The Nose in French) showed his incompetence once again by resigning him to the chagrin of many of us.

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19 Jun 2015 07:23:42
Our best CB for those that haven't actually watched him closely. Blinded by his season as our POTY.

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19 Jun 2015 08:05:12
Echo pointed out that with him as an ever present in defence over the last five years we have gotten worse year by year. Its time to move on, if he signs it should be to cover rather than be a mainstay in defence. We went from conceding 28 or so goals to 50 and above, there has to be something in that!

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19 Jun 2015 10:49:34
John Barnez, i would not necessarily put our worsening defense on Skrtel's woefulness completely. U have forgotten that we have had a useless manager who thinks defense is unimportant in football so u cannot shift the blame on the defenders completely. Every defender during Brendan's reign has gotten worse at the club so that is on the manager.

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19 Jun 2015 16:41:04
Unfortunately the manager does not tell him to rush out of defence without ensuring cover is available or play so deep rendering everyone onside all the time. Brendan is right in one respect, skittles is uncoachable.

Granted all the players are culpable for the shocking displays though, not just skittles but he does make their lives harder.

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18 Jun 2015 20:44:14
Is there a chance for ilori at Liverpool?

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18 Jun 2015 20:54:38
I'd just like to see him given a chance. Meant to be lightning quick (faster than Ronaldo at previous club) and a decent footballer.

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18 Jun 2015 21:04:52
Hopefully he will be given a chance at the club he is actually a good defender from what i have seen and i'd like him to stay and be given Cup games next season before possibly forming a partnership with Sakho.

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18 Jun 2015 21:05:21
Out of all the weird sh**p transfer activity our club has produced over the last couple of years, Ilori is the one that baffles me most. Young, talented and to me, a cracking buy. Well done scouts. What do we do? Keep him away from the first team, farm him out on a disorganised loan, then decide he's not good enough. Next up, Joe Gomez?

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18 Jun 2015 21:14:07
Welcome to the wonderful world of the Nose

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18 Jun 2015 21:27:28
There's nothing weird about it.

He's not played anywhere near enough games at a decent level to be considered a first choice at LFC. We've only had him in the squad for 6 months in 3 years so to only be either fit enough or considered good enough by Sporting, Granada & Bordeaux to be selected for 30 odd games in 2.5 seasons suggests he's maybe not at the right level.

Shame as like a lot of people here I really wanted him to be a big success for us (as I did with Borini)

Hopefully he gets a successful loan and a chance to replace Toure next season.

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18 Jun 2015 21:44:15
So we can surmise that Boom! has never ever seen Ilori play. If he had he would have seen that Ilori is better than Skittles and a better defender than Emre Can

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18 Jun 2015 21:57:30
Of course I've seen him play and so have the various coaches who haven't picked him at the clubs he's been at for whatever reason.

I also said I really wanted him to be a success because he has great potential?

But with Skrtel & Toure getting new deals the only way he gets a squad place is if we play 3 at the back and he slides in where Can played.

That means someone expensive drops out of the starting XI.

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18 Jun 2015 22:03:39
He was a regular at Granada and played at Bordeaux after he recovered from an injury. He's better than skittles and Toure but he's been Brendaned.

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18 Jun 2015 23:02:16
Boom, have you seen him play for LFC, you know, the club that spent 7m on him yet he's never stepped onto Anfield? So we buy him and send him out on senseless loans because BR is a recognized failure in the TW and can't find a way to play him. Makes no sense at all, really. Also, the coaches have seen him play but not in LFC colors so how do you know he's good enuff? because his coaches know better? Would that be the same coaches that have been deemed useless and sacked or the failure of a manager who can't place a square peg in a square hole? With that logic, your argument is defeated because those coaches you mentioned cannot judge good players when the see them because two have been sacked and the other on the brink hence, have no leg to stand on when it comes to spotting talent. Also, Skrtel is aweful and the fact he's being kept ahead of Ilori, shows how little he knows about good players

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19 Jun 2015 07:10:28
Redohio. If you use the fact that the couches aren't good enough because they were sacked. Surly you would have to hold yourself to the same standard when speaking about rodgers. Who by the facts you used to deem the coaches not good enough should mean rodger is as he has not been sacked.

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19 Jun 2015 07:26:17
Joe Gomez take note, your career will follow a similar disorganised path as Ilori. don't sign buddy.

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19 Jun 2015 10:22:09
If you're good enough, you will get picked, if you're not good enough, you won't.
Simple as that.

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{Ed001's Note - that is just utter bollox.}

19 Jun 2015 11:52:53
Ok maybe I went too far with "simple as that" but it doesn't serve anyone to send a player out on loan who is better than the first team players. Illori needs first team experience and he would not get that at LFC.

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{Ed001's Note - it depends on if the judgement of the person picking who stays and goes can be relied on. Clearly our manager has about as much knowledge of defensive play and how to defend as my missus who has never watched a game of football in her life.}

19 Jun 2015 15:06:12
Well I don't know your missus but I can't argue about Rodgers lack of defensive awareness.

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20 Jun 2015 01:15:09
Poor comment, Bristhe! Pay attention. Those coaches are the ones he himself hired to assist him hence, if they got the sack, it means his judgement is severely poor and should be sacked as well, simple. You cannot blame the failure of a manager on the very assistants he chose. That makes no sense. They should have all gotten fired and many agree with me on this forum.

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18 Jun 2015 20:02:41
I think we should go all in and sign Montoya, have we not learnt from our mistakes of signinh good British players from decent clubs? Lallana, downing, carroll, adam, Allen. They all look good at a club at that level

Montoya to anybody who doesn't watch much la liga is an excellent full back who can play either side, if either alba or alves gets injured he's always on rather that adriano and I believe he would be barcas first choice if it wasn't for alves. Plus he's champions league experience

I'd argue with anybody all day that Montoya is the better option than clyne

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18 Jun 2015 20:25:34
I would argue that neither are anything special. Montoya has looked decidely average to me whenever I have watched him, at least Clyne is quick and agile.

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18 Jun 2015 20:45:10
Serge aurier,darmian,de sciglio are all better

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18 Jun 2015 21:07:42
Darmain would be the best choice but we have shown no interest. Clyne is a good player but i fear he is just a younger version of Glen Johnson very good going forward scores the odd goal but gets caught out of position too often, i personally would have used Wisdom there as there's not much difference between the pair other than Clynes is better going forward but Wisdom is the better defender.

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18 Jun 2015 23:04:25
Which Montoya were you watching this year? Surely not the one who spent most of the season on the bench or was it the one playing for the Barca B team? because if it's the one we all think, don't know what games you saw him play in because he barely ever did

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19 Jun 2015 07:27:19
Wisdom, Wisdom, Wisdom over both Clyne and Montoya please.

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18 Jun 2015 19:41:48
Just watched the Danny Ings interview prior to the England U21's match. What a nice sensible lad he seems, and i liked the fact that when the interviewer asked him about Liverpool he had the biggest beaming smile on his face. Looking forward to see him play and develop in the red short, because I'm convinced the lad will wear it with pride and passion which is all we can ask of any player in our beloved club.

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18 Jun 2015 20:46:06
Wasnt that the same with lambert. Who was not utilised properly like he was at southampton and all the fans jumped on his back.

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18 Jun 2015 21:48:02
None I know got on lamberts back Dorset!! Rodgers never used him right, he came home to his club and in my opinion was made to look silly by Rodgers.

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18 Jun 2015 23:05:50
OG, BR does that to many of our players and he may do exactly the same thing to Ings who, to his credit wants to play and fight for us.

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18 Jun 2015 19:15:44
Ilori starts for Portugal u21s tonight against England. Should get his chance honest season but wont

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18 Jun 2015 20:02:17
El Noseo would rather pick skittles or a midfielder 😆

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18 Jun 2015 19:03:35
Ed001, this is a purely hypothetical question, do you think Firmino could be a player that could play alongside Ings (you mentioned he's not a lone forward) and could mean we no longer need to sign a striker? Or am I talking nonsense?

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{Ed001's Note - he could play that role, though his best position is slightly deeper in a similar position to Coutinho, they could interchange if the two played together off a striker.}

18 Jun 2015 19:13:43
Interesting, thanks a bunch Ed002. I'd like if we signed him, though most likely not feasible financially or positionally.

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{Ed001's Note - Ed002? I am not sure whether to take that as a compliment or insult!!!}

18 Jun 2015 19:29:28
He can very eaeasir play there in a diamond. But still I'm keeping no hopes of us signing him until man city and United are interested.

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18 Jun 2015 19:29:57
Ed01, don`t you think having both is a prob where as we have issues at the top striker position?

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{Ed001's Note - we should make use of what we have, Lambert is not a bad goalscorer, he just needed better service, if he had got more chances he would have scored more goals. Yes I do think we need a top striker, but there are not many around, Firmino offers something to get more out of those we do have. Not ideal, but it is where we are, having to make do and mend without Champions League.}

18 Jun 2015 19:42:54
Damn, sorry Ed001, I'm just used to Ed002 replying to me usually. How embarassing.

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{Ed001's Note - I am sure Ed002 will be delighted.}

18 Jun 2015 23:08:12
Great point, Ed. Our squad is unbalanced yet more than decent and with the right management, can work wonders. Problem is the management part never got fixed and that could cost us for years to come

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19 Jun 2015 04:08:15
Son Heung Min is similar to Firmino but players further forward and can play upfront with Ings or Origi until Sturridge gets fit. More of a goal scorer than an provider which is what we need. Son has the experience at top level domestically, in Europe competitions and a International level.

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{Ed001's Note - but Son has no interest in leaving behind a team in the Champions League to join us and they are not interested in selling him.}

19 Jun 2015 07:36:29
Im not suggesting we are signing Firmino, though I would be interested to see both he and Coutinho play together in behind a striker. Double attacking mid's, both creating and feeding the striker and scoring themselves.

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18 Jun 2015 17:28:47
Do Liverpool hold interest in digne eds? All these links emerging

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{Ed002's Note - Roma want him as a replacement for Cole.}

18 Jun 2015 18:04:04
Is Cole retiring ed or will he go to the states?

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{Ed002's Note - Try the European pages.}

18 Jun 2015 17:03:21
Hey Edds

Is there any other updates from the list of players that we have shown an interest in?

Thanks in advance

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{Ed002's Note - Not that I am aware.}

18 Jun 2015 16:26:37
Good day eds and fellow reds, as this is silly season I thought I would add this, could it be possible that all clubs only have max transfer spend per season set out by the fa, would this not even the playing field abit, although getting all teams to agree on the amount would be like getting the truth out of fifa. or is this just a pie in the sky idea.
thanks

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

18 Jun 2015 21:01:00
I've said this for years, have a transfer budget & wage cap, for example £50million max spend & £50,000 a week max wages, it's ridiculous how much money footballers earn, average footballers who are journeymen can earn £100,000 a week, it would bring all clubs closer in line & make every league more competitive but it'll never happen unfortunately. With TV deals, Champions League money & sponsors ect the amount of money in football, imagine if somebody like Stoke or West Brom made better buys than Chelsea or United with their £50million, TV companies & Sponsors wouldn't want to throw money into a Champions League that would see Stoke v Levantte or West Brom v FC Koln. The big clubs will carry on getting further away from the smaller clubs & unless you get a billionaire like City, Chelsea & PSG it'll be the same old faces winning leagues & Europe 90% of the time bar the odd years like Blackburn, Dortmund, Valencia ect. Money rules football, just look at FIFA.

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18 Jun 2015 15:43:02
Hi eds. I was wondering how are every so called reliable source claiming there is nothing in Kovačić rumours. Something weird is going on as I believe in what you posted before. What are your thoughts on that?

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation.}

18 Jun 2015 14:49:10
Fairly new to this site and want to pose some questions to fellow fans & Eds. What do you all put the good run we had last season down to, and why did it implode so spectacularly? For me, I think it shows Rogers does have capability as a manager tactically and that we can move forward and improve from where we finished last season (if he hasn't lost the dressing room.) Just focussing on tactics, I like the high tempo, high possession, pressing blueprint. Areas for improvement would be late game management, defensive organisation and lack of adaptability to a more conservative style when warranted. I know there are lots of haters out there, but I'm looking for objective comments.

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18 Jun 2015 15:21:26
Andy

You can see that we have no organization, so when we play pressing football it's as if the players have just been told to go out and do what they want.

When we had that run people on here where pointing to the fact that we where scoring world class goals on order to win the games and said we couldn't score them every week.

Well guess what we couldn't score them every week then the results stopped coming.

Rodgers is clueless, he kept playing sterling upfront who couldn't score in a brothel, surely Lambert should've had a run instead.

Playing can at RB, the world could see he was useless yet Rodgers kept doing it.

With the signings coming in it shows the transfer committee and Rodgers are not learning by there mistakes.

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18 Jun 2015 15:41:00
We started the season well which helped. When Suarez came back he was on fire straight away. We had the other best striker in the league. Suarez made everybody better around him. Having Suarez and Sturridge up top gave the whole team confidence.

The managers failings were still evident last year. Palace game, Chelsea game.

All my opinions.

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18 Jun 2015 15:56:31
In reply,

Luis Suarez and sturridge clicked together scoring numerous goals!

We were still rubbish defensively, and to say we imploded spectacularly is an overstatement as we lost only once or twice in second half of season

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18 Jun 2015 16:02:48
I agree Andy M but for me all the good points he focuses on does also come down to the formation we play, Many teams struggle when playing one up top and for me we were most frightening and better pressing when we played the diamond formation - 2 strikers is a must if we are going to succeed this year for me - If you look back to last season (Finishing 2nd) look at the games Suarez was out, Sturridge was far less affective on his own and we scraped through games Stoke, Villa Utd etc but when Suarez returned we looked frightening and that wasn't all down to the man himself because via versa happened when Sturridge was injured for a few weeks and Suarez had to play up top - Done a better job because of the player he is of course but having 2 strikers creates problems for defenders especially when you have Coutinho behind them its frightening - No reason why we can't adapt to that formation again this year if Lucas dropped have Milner and Henderson either side (Box to Box energy midfielders) and coutinho in front and the missing link is someone up top with DS when he's back - Many fans will disagree with this but look at the spurs game (3-0 win) that was the diamond and even Balotelli looked frightening with DS up top they couldn't handle us - Disappointed we didn't stick with this formation even if it meant ballet and Borini up top the season just gone or even sterling and balo

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18 Jun 2015 16:09:01
I personally believe we went on a good run due to two main reasons. First by playing 3 at the back with wing backs we were able to overload the midfield when we had the ball and to a certain extent dominate other teams with possession. The other reason is that by playing a centre back either side of skrtel it meant that when we didn't have the ball and took up a back 5 we didn't have to rely on skrtels shocking positional sense. The good run came to an end simply because other teams eventually saw the weaknesses. Most key being our right side which was continuously exploited as Rodgers chose to play a winger/forward in the RWB role and a midfielder in the RCB role. There were other weaknesses but no point going into great detail as it can all be summed up by saying Rodgers refused to adapt and change tactics

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18 Jun 2015 16:12:24
Luis Suarez wasn't even a Liverpool player last season, read the statement correctly. LAST season!!!!
Andy I went to the majority of them games LAST season, we didn't win from being tactically astute in all of them games, in many we were terrible just the opposition was worse. The 3 at the back worked well in about 3 games all season. Rodgers is a joke, the ultimate blagger. To me one of the worst tacticians in the league and should have never been brought in to the club. Brendan Rodgers is the sole reason that Liverpool will not progress, terrible terrible manager

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18 Jun 2015 16:55:27
Few in the media gave us a chance of top 4 before a ball was kicked.

Check last season's pre-kick off predictions.

We lost Suarez & Sturridge and beyond their goals we lost pressing from the front and the threat they posed on the counter.

Balotelli was a disastrous signing and what happened was entirely predictable.We overpaid for Lovren big time. Lambert was ill-suited to our style (forget all that Plan B bull, just find players who can do Plan A better than the guy who's not implementing it right on the day)

BR reacted to a slow start by shielding younger new signings and opting for experience (probably the right thing to do). It didn't work though and rather than going for the youngsters he dithered.

By the time he switched our season was over. His tactical change was a master-stroke and amazingly our defence looked solid and we could have sneaked 4th.

A dreadful afternoon against Man Utd burst the balloon big-style and from that point on the players chucked it in (in my view). That was more worrying for me than some of BR's (many) shortcomings - how much bottle does this squad have?

Moral: you need plenty of goalscorers, avoid bad eggs, BR should follow his instincts rather than trying to be clever and there's nowt wrong with 3 at the back.

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18 Jun 2015 18:24:38
Hahaha wish I'd read it properly, we didn't even go on that great of a run, we were still poor just po led up a few wins. A few wonder goals helped us on the way. We beat Southampton due to a screamer from coutinho (we never looked like scoring) beat city due to 2 screamers. Etc etc

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18 Jun 2015 19:35:23
We had a very weak schedule and even inspite of those wins, we were still aweful and useless in defence. Those same probs were there in 2014 BUT we had a strike force that could outcore the other teams which is pretty much what we were doing until BR bottled it in a game vs Chelsea where they took advantage of what other teams didn`t do in our system as in, press SG hence the slip. We had been found out WAY before the Utd game yet he did nothing and kept doing the same thing till the end of the season until the the Stoke massacre. So how was he tactically capable when the same probs we

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19 Jun 2015 07:39:21
What I put our unbeaten run down to is luck. While we were unbeaten the performances were not good at all, and we were very lucky that some of the results in the unbeaten run didn't go the other way and become losses.

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18 Jun 2015 14:16:51
So, second bid for Sterling officially rejected. Are we simply holding out for the right amount or is there serious intent to keep him? Opinions Eds please?

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{Ed002's Note - I have no idea.}

18 Jun 2015 21:19:11
I think they will make one last offer somewhere over 45 but under 50 million. Then it will be down to whether the club accept.

I'd say it will be city or no one though. I can't see another club paying as much as what city will, and if we reject the final offer there's a chance he'll be staying.


I think we should take the next offer and run. The cash will help the club no end.

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18 Jun 2015 13:55:15
eds do u think city will come back with an approved offer or do u think that will be it now with the 40 million bid being rejected?

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18 Jun 2015 21:38:57
you bet City will come back with a improved bid of about 45 million , which we will agree to , as that money , or most of it , will be used to buy 2/3 players .

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18 Jun 2015 13:38:57
Hi Eds, anything new on Firmino? I seen yesterday Ed1 say a deal had already been agreed, he just didn't know who it was with.

I'm sure its either us or united at this stage?

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18 Jun 2015 12:20:45
Ed2 i know he only moved last year but is batshuayi available this summer?

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18 Jun 2015 19:36:07
he`s pretty raw and still learning the game but he has SEVERE potential, IMO.

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18 Jun 2015 14:21:08
for me at least skertle is loyal , people go on about him costing us goals , but forget to mention goals he has stopped , but many on here have a love fest with lucas saying he is great and all that but they forget to mention he costs us goals as well in our last 2 games of the season he cost us a goal in each and i'd say 2 goals against stoke ,but never mind he's one of the best def mids in the prem to many on here , good not top def mids don't cost the club goals by their mistakes but lucas does he does every season and he will continue to do so , then there's sterling who can't score that many goals as he is just a winger but the goals he misses has cost us games and he has no loyalty to the club , you all know the rest about him , but skertal may not be the best but he is liverpool through and through some fans on here just can't be pleased , a bit like when a lot of fans wanted us to get rid of suarez and this season they got their wish and i hope they are happy with what we missed

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18 Jun 2015 15:23:36
Skrtel is loyal?

So his agent couldn't find him another club after rejecting his offer from us, so shit we will just stick with you then.

If his agent could've found him a new club on more money he was a goner

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18 Jun 2015 15:28:37
Skrtel always does last ditch tackles ect to make up for his mistakes. How many times does he get beat by a big forward. Thebbloke loses his head and doesn't communicate. Only points then lunges in on the halfway line. Lovren-sakho should be the duo with sakho being the leader.

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18 Jun 2015 16:23:37
Dogs are loyal, doesn't mean an sparky the wonder dog should be playing in our "defence".

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18 Jun 2015 17:46:09
I look forward to seeing Skrtel backing away at amazing pace when the likes of Walters and Gayle run at him, until he is in the box and ends up screwing it up.

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18 Jun 2015 20:01:05
You must be joking? What loyalty? You mean the loyalty that had him hold us to ransome in 2012 when city came calling and he used it as leverage to stiche us for more money? NONSENSE! only a clueless manager like BR would keep a poor excuse for a defender like Skrtel. Everyone knows he`s aweful but it only takes a manager who has no idea how to coach a defence, to think he is good. Mediocrity will always shine through in LFC with such incompetence within our ranks

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{Ed001's Note - he didn't use it for leverage for more money, he threw a girly strop and got himself banished from the team because he was desperate to move there. He was already being overpaid by us anyway, he just wanted to leave.}

18 Jun 2015 20:06:59
Maybe Rodgers could train a dog!

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18 Jun 2015 23:11:27
My misinterpretation then, Ed. But still, he has no loyalty for doing what you described. Agger was loyal because he could have left but did not only for BR to treat him with contempt and disgrace. He left quietly and left his dignity intact and good on him unlike some people, I know.

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19 Jun 2015 07:42:11
I would be of the opinion he is still being overpaid by us, but alas, that's what we do with average players. Its no wonder there is no wages available to get top quality players instead of bloating the squad.

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18 Jun 2015 13:58:43
Good morning Red's and Ed's. Although I'm a first time poster I've been logging on to this site for years and can even remember the time Ed's 002 used to be nice (only joshing Ed's 002). Seriously though guys and gals I know there's a lot of general doom & gloom surrounding our great club at the moment but this website is one redeeming feature. We more often than not get confidential Liverpool related news way before it's broken anywhere else in the media and it's free. So come on people lay off the Ed's and dirext your vitriol at the buffoon that managing our beloved team. Now on a more positive note let's talk about comings and going's. For me it's imperative we get rid of Borini, Lambert and Balo. I don't care who comes in to replace them. That's just my opinion. I think the three of them offer nothing and I don't care how much clever running off the ball Borini does I don't rate him (sorry Ed's 001). Mario is a world class loser and Ricky is well Ricky. Origi, Ings, Sinclair and a one legged Sturridge will do me if we can't find a world class finisher. I don't think Firmino is the answer we need goals not players to create chances we have enough of those. Midfield? We need Kovacic as he would dovetail Philip organically. I think that partnership could be Utopian. Kova is a must! As is Kono on a free on the left. At the back I would go with Manqillo at RB as I feel he can be a monster if coached correctly. Clyne is overpriced for what he offers. Just my opinion. Buy Bercovic with the money saved from Clyne and coupled with the players already at the club you have a side that will easily finish in the top 10 in the league and may get to the 4th round of the FA Cup!

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18 Jun 2015 14:31:32
IMO we need just 3 players at the moment - a GK, a DM and a top striker.

GK - Either Handanovic or Begovic
DM - Medel
ST - try convincing Tevez otherwise Aubemeyang. Mitrovic could also be an option.

If Sterling is sold then take Konoplayanka on a free.

Kovacic is not needed neither is Clyne. They are luxury signings we can do without with.

Balo and Borini should be sold/loaned out at the earliest. Same goes for Enrique and Allen.

Pls share your views.

Cheers!

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18 Jun 2015 16:06:50
So basically everything Ed01 or Ed02 has said.

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18 Jun 2015 19:16:50
I don't know how short you're memories are but we had to play Can, Henderson, Sterling and Ibe at right back last season. A quality right back is VERY much needed mind you.

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18 Jun 2015 20:01:06
Just get rid of Lambert, PLEASE!!!

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18 Jun 2015 21:24:34
For me we should sign.

Montoya.
Digne.
Konoplyanka. Free.
Higuain.

Sell.
Enrique.
Coates.
Skrtle.
Alberto.
Allen.
Lucas.
Sterling.
Lambert.
Borini.
Balotelli.

With Origi, Ilori, wisdom and then Flanagan after injury it will be like an additional 4 players.

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19 Jun 2015 04:16:10
Because we have sturridge, ings and origi already, Lambert has more of a impact on wages than out on the pitch. The question isn't why should we sell him but why should we keep him.

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18 Jun 2015 12:08:38
Hi, all! New here. Been reading for a long time. To take away briefly from the usual transfer talk, dome and gloom etc etc., has anybody read about the Football quarter proposed by the Spirit of Shankly and Keeping Everton in our city supporter groups? A google search of football quarter Liverpool brings up the site. Eds, have you heard anything about this? Thoughts?

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18 Jun 2015 12:05:06
{Ed001's Note - We have posted a new player profile entitled, Xabi Alonso

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18 Jun 2015 18:04:32
Great profile ed, you missed out that he can cook a fantastic sea food paella

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18 Jun 2015 20:00:13
Xabi Alonso? Why?

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{Ed001's Note - what an odd question. Just because we needed to test out a new way of doing the profiles so chose someone that was easy to do.}

18 Jun 2015 10:41:44
Clear something up for me. How has it suddenly become a case of kovacic or Firmino? Just because firminos came up when the kovacic links had died down??? I have seen several people mentioning it is a choice between them too. How? They are completely different players. One plays as a central midfielder and the other as right winger/ False No9. Actually i couldn't even be surprised to see both coming in with no more striking acquisitions. Firmino would be enough

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18 Jun 2015 11:13:06
exactly i would love both. but i don't know how it became one or the other. Just tells how the media plays us. We won't end up with either. kovacic because of our screw up and firmino because he is wanted by better clubs.
However i donot agree that we need only one or anyone of them . yes firmino is a very good acquisition but that doesn't mean kovacic isnt. Kovacic would add a lot of penetration in to our midfield. But acquiring both means chances for rossiter, ibe, branagan and texiera, origi , ojo, sinclair would be scarce to nil. I really yearn to see texiera in the first team. and Rossiter also needs to be played( though a good loan might be a better option) but texiera needs to play or i am sure we will loose him just like suso, illori and that won't be sending the right message to the other youth. As we all know sterling will be leaving and if other youth players also start leaving that will set in uncertainty among youth . i don't think we should sign anyone more unless it is a striker and that too if we are sure of moving the trio we have.
I think this should be a good year for owners to get rid of all the baggage they have accumulated in the 4 seasons here. we still w.o any further signing have a decent enough squad for top 6. and if we get things right top 4 isn't really impossible , though the top 4 clubs are very loaded in terms of quality.

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18 Jun 2015 11:20:15
Firmino is neither a winger nor a false number 9; Firmino is best placed to perform in a system that uses him as a classical number 10. He can also play out wide when needed but is not as effective out wide, similar to Coutinho and to a lesser extent, Lallana. This brings us to the argument whether we need him or not, and IMO, no. Last year, when LFC had the money, they could have got him instead of spending £27 million on Lallana, but they thought Lallana was the better player.

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18 Jun 2015 11:24:40
How can texiera play whem both his legs are broken? It takes a long time to recover frm something like that

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18 Jun 2015 11:55:59
he broke it at brighton in april and his well on recovery isn't he?

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18 Jun 2015 13:33:31
Firmino is a very good player but if Couts is already in his position at no. 10 and he is ineffective out wide and is not a top striker who can upgrade the forward line, WHY is he coming? Another case of buying a player like Kova, who we don`t need if all the above questions come with a negative answer.

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18 Jun 2015 10:33:13
Eds and reds,

Reading 2 or 3 reports this morning of us looking at lucas ocampos as a sterling replacement.

I know that reports have said a few players as his replacement but was wondering what your take is on it.

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18 Jun 2015 13:34:35
Seen him play a lot. Very good dribbler but poor end product

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18 Jun 2015 17:48:50
Who redohio? Sterling or Ocampos

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18 Jun 2015 20:40:04
Ocampos

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19 Jun 2015 04:19:58
Son Heung Min roughly similar price to Ocampos maybe a bit more, better finisher.

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18 Jun 2015 10:08:56
with the man city bid and the new holiday revelations,does anyone else think raheem stirling will be laughing all the way to the bank,boom,boom

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18 Jun 2015 10:21:45
His inability to dance shouldn't be the reason we sell for less than the valuation set lol.

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18 Jun 2015 11:24:40
No, but his penchant for his natural advocacy of stupidity should be a very good reason to get rid of this presumptuous kid.

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18 Jun 2015 18:47:11
Behave!!!!

You lot don't know a tiny bit of what footballers get up to.

You would be shocked.

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18 Jun 2015 09:24:36
Ed's what are chances of a new centre back singing this season? I think Can should be pushed into a midfield role.

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{Ed001's Note - and what would happen to the 10 we already have? We never needed to play Can there in the first place.}

18 Jun 2015 09:59:49
We will sign bartra this summer as part of the clubs plan to bring all centrebacks of the world to Liverpool

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18 Jun 2015 09:59:52
It should and always should of been in my opinion lovren-sakho.

They should of been paired together to get a decent understanding with Lucas in front of them that's a soiled defensive unit with added protection.

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18 Jun 2015 11:26:51
Too often last season our defense appeared to have soiled themselves.

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18 Jun 2015 12:13:48
Haha predictive text knows how it is with bodgers in charge

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18 Jun 2015 13:48:31
He buys Sahko and already wants him gone by the next season. He buys Lovren to replace Sahko and seems he too, is already not good enuff for BR. He buys Ilori and hails him as the future and he`s messed him up so bad that the boy`s career is at a standstill. This guy just discards players he himself bought like a chick discards underwear. That`s why nobody knows what he`s doing because he himself has no idea what he wants

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18 Jun 2015 09:15:02
Hi Eds
With Sterling looking likely to move on this summer I was just wondering about Man Cs reported bid of 35.5m plus add ons.
If we have to give QPR a percentage of the transfer fee, are the add-ons included in this percentage or just the main sum? As the selling club, would it be more profitable for us to include a large amount of extras if QPR can't take a chunk of it?
Hope my question makes sense

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{Ed001's Note - as the add ons are paid we would pay QPR their percentage of them.}

18 Jun 2015 11:54:41
If that was the case then structuring a deal to screw the club we bought the player off (QPR in this instance) would be worse again for our reputation.

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18 Jun 2015 08:53:24
City seem desperate to secure Sterlings services Eds, but two questions : 1- Do you honestly believe they will offer more than £40m for him, I personally think his end product is poor and he wastes lots of opportunities 2- Why wouldn't BR look at Dzeko, he is a quality striker in my opinion, good feet, quick enough, decent in the air and has lots of Prem experience, for me, LFC should bargain hard with City and use their need for Sterling to their advantage.

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{Ed001's Note - 1 -they will offer more based on clauses, such as making X amount of appearances, yes. 2 - He is not quality, thankfully there has been no interest in him. He is slow, average in the air despite his height, poor touch, lazy mind, is slow and Citeh have wanted rid of him for years because he is not good enough.}

18 Jun 2015 13:49:18
Straight cash or jog on, IMO

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18 Jun 2015 08:52:02
Morning Eds. Is it possible to have section on the site for positive rumours and fans and a separate one for negative fans. I really enjoy reading what the Eds have to say and their excellent insight to what goes on with LFC. I got so frustrated with some of the fans coming on here and slating the club and owners, and even more annoyed when they slate the Eds. This site is about Pro Liverpool fans getting excited about Rumours, however whacky they may be. Just a thought Eds. Personally I'm happy with the Business done so far. More to come soon I hope. YNWA

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{Ed001's Note - it doesn't work that way, there is a negative feeling surrounding the club right now, you can't just ignore it because you don't like it. We will have to start pushing more of the negative stuff earlier on to the others page, as this page should be about banter and be more lighthearted.}

18 Jun 2015 09:29:44
Ever thought there is negativity because fans want what is best for the club?

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18 Jun 2015 09:46:48
I'm try not to be a negative nancy when I post on here. but Rodgers, no Klopp, Milner, Bogdan, Ings and Skrtel staying have that effect on me!

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18 Jun 2015 10:01:51
For me the real problem will be when there is no negativity to being bang average!

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18 Jun 2015 13:53:51
NOBODY has a right to tell people what they can or can`t debate on these boards provided people`s opinions are respected and all is done in civility and respect for all. if you don`t like what people are saying and the concerns they are voicing which happen to be facts and valid concerns, such people can go post on some fantasy page where all is well and nothing ba will ever happen. Until then, people should stop with lecturing other people about what they can or can`t say.

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18 Jun 2015 16:36:04
Wow Ohio, you've said some fairly uncivil things about me and my opinions on many occasions.
Practise what you preach.

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18 Jun 2015 16:36:39
Totally agree with redohio u can't sugar coat reality go around signing and dancing about the club pretending all is well, it's delusional.

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18 Jun 2015 21:23:44
Ron, i said all i said to you BUT never called you anything derogatory like idiot, stupid, imbecile or such names like that, a practice that is beneath. What I did say was that your opinions had no basis in fact nor logic hence, disingenuous and dishonest so where is the uncivility there for calling you out on the baseless opinions that you aired?

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18 Jun 2015 08:10:02
Hey eds hope you're well ; I understand Domenico Berardi is playing for Italy and is supposedly a good prospect, if we were to have any interest as he is co-owned by Juventus and Sassuolo would we have to approach both clubs separately?

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{Ed001's Note - we would have to agree a deal with both clubs yes.}

18 Jun 2015 08:01:36
Clyne, kovacic, Firmino all seem the popular newspaper targets at the moment. If we get all 3, I'd personally be pleased.
I do feel we need to get rid of Skrtel and Sterling though. Bring in £45-50m for them combined.
Still think Konoplyanka is too good to resist on a free.

Do you think Ibe will be loaned out next season ed? I'd rather him be loaned to a Premier League team if he wasn't going to play most weeks for us

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{Ed001's Note - I expect him to stay with us and get regular games.}

18 Jun 2015 08:22:05
Ibe contributes more than Markovich already for me. He looks like the sort of lad who'll just make it impossible to drop him. (As he did with that little run in the team last year befor injury). Seems he's been working on his finishing this summer so should be targeting 5 as a minimum this coming season.

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18 Jun 2015 13:55:43
Not his fault BUT Marko should never have been bought especially while Ibe was more PL-ready than he is and now there are rumours that he might be either sold or loaned out next season.

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18 Jun 2015 07:09:56
So we look set to reject the latest Sterling offer ed, obviously the club expect City to come back a third time with the money we demand? Would this have an impact on us pushing more for Kovacic and Clyne once we have or know the money is coming in?

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{Ed001's Note - no, it does not work like that. We are not spending what we are making anyway, we are spending more, so we are working off internal loans. This is not like Chelsea, who are self sufficient, so they can match spending to their income, we make less than we spend. A lot less.}

18 Jun 2015 08:56:02
after getting photographed in ibiza taking nitrous oxide AGAIN and also smoking a shushi pipe along with jordan ibe,i would take what's on offer now,if it still is on offer

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18 Jun 2015 09:07:59
Reading between the lines, you seem to be unenthusiastic about the direction our club is going. Do you see a light at the end of the tunnel? Will the extra capacity at Anfield make a big difference in our spending power, like it seems it has with Arsenal?

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{Ed001's Note - the extra capacity will make a difference in the future, but it is a long way off as the building work has to be paid for. I do see a light at the end of the tunnel, it is just that right now we do not seem to be heading towards it, we seem to be moving away from it. Our academy is excellent and has the best prospect pool I have seen in my lifetime, but we are just buying more and more players instead of utilising it. If we bought less, but higher quality players, and let the academy fill the squad out, we would be in a much stronger position now.}

18 Jun 2015 10:11:14
Im with you Ed001, it pains me greatly, that I suspect the talent we have in the academy won't be utilised in the first team. Disheartening really.

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18 Jun 2015 12:16:55
If the ship continues to head in the wrong direction.
Change the Captain !!

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18 Jun 2015 12:44:20
I'm not so pessimistic about the future.

The step up from U21 to a team trying to challenge for top 4 is colossal. We've given loads of players a taster in the last 3 years and now they need to do what Ibe & Wisdom have done and gain some experience of men's football.

Sinclair & Ojo (for two) will be out on loan next season so we are actively developing players for the future.

Chelsea didn't put an 18 year old Patrick Bamford in their PL squad did they? He's got to prove he's good enough to warrant a place in the squad. Should be the same for our lads.

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{Ed001's Note - Bamford is half the player of our youth and was bought from Forest. I really do not get the deal about him, he is highly unlikely to make it.}

18 Jun 2015 13:24:41
I've got to admit, this not using our academy more have been doing my head in for ages and we seem to have this way of trying to buy ourselves out of trouble, when some decent coaching would go a long way in improving things!

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18 Jun 2015 14:05:17
Boom, the last time I checked, we aren`t Chelsea and they have a plan and structure now which has made them self-sufficient so comparing anything they do to us is just wrong. Because Chelsea did not put Bamford in their squad doesn`t mean we shouldn`t put Sinclair, Ojo and whoever else in ours. Why? because the are way ahead of us and they have top strikers in their first team which we don`t. We are spending more than them currently YET we are still way behind them in terms of first team quality. How is is that not a prob? We have accused them od buying trophies but we are doing the exact same thing with NOTHING to show for it. I say, go another route and integrate our academy, a practice that will not only cut costs but will save us money to buy these top players we need instead of buying youth in and sending our youth on pointless loans or selling them for a pittance. Example: We had Kelly here YET we sold him, loaned out Wisdom, loaned in Manquillo and suddenly now, people are talking about Clyne who isn`t better than Kelly or Wisdom or Flanno, IMO. See the incompetence in that shambolic piece of business?

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18 Jun 2015 16:18:22
Of course the academy is important but it's only part of the solution.

If you haven't noticed most of our first team graduates recently were bought (Sterling, Ibe, Suso etc).

Therefore buying 20 players for 1m and paying them top dollar in their age group and then factoring in the fact that you'll have a hit rate of 5% if you're lucky is as much of a gamble as paying 20m for one player.

I would have kept Kelly but clearly the club felt he was injury prone and BR didn't see him as first choice so best for his career to let him go.

Wisdom wasnt going to be first choice so best for him to be loaned out.

Flanagan was crocked so Manquillo was signed as a talented, highly rated understudy to Johnson with a sensible agreed fee should he be a success.

In reality he was OK but not spectacular so i doubt we'll end up signing him.

So where you see chaos and a man trying to ruin peoples careers I see a fairly straightforward and understandable set of decisions (some I agree with, some not).

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18 Jun 2015 21:40:01
You`re saying all the things you wouldn`t do that BR actually did which has led us to the mess we`re currently in. How come BR not the club, thought Kelly wouldn`t make it YET he went to CP and never missed a game? Why loan out Wisdom when Flanno was crocked and kelly got sold instead of loaning in a guy who isn`t even better than any of those guys? Care to comment on that? Exactly, my point is the club has no idea what it is doing and the shambles I mentioned is indicative of that.

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18 Jun 2015 06:41:52
Stoke away first means they have chosen to make us follow on in the second innings!

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18 Jun 2015 09:35:33
Think Stoke first game is the perfect, best scenario for us. What better team to face then the one that humiliated us last game, best revenge is to beat them when points matter.
Should have automatic motivation to make up for that 6-1 loss. Great.

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18 Jun 2015 10:09:34
Motivation fro Rodgers to improve upon his record of starting with 7 midfielders?

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18 Jun 2015 12:51:09
Played Stoke on the opening day when we finished 2nd!

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18 Jun 2015 14:07:10
Nobody remebers that, bro. Why? that 6-1 shalacking is what is in everyone`s memory and if you think the players won`t be thinking about that before that game then you`re fooling yourself. NO player ever forgets real hiding especially if you play that team 3 months later

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18 Jun 2015 05:47:10
Respected ED'01,

Phil has told me that you have my email i'd and you have replied to my mail,but I replied back to Phil and told him that your mail didn't reach me.After that I didn't get a reply sir.Can you please resend your mail to me or pass it on through Phil.

Sorry for pestering you,ED'02 and Phil.I'll not text after this regarding this topic and bother you further sir.

Thanks and Cheers

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{Ed001's Note - I have tried resending it, if you don't find it in your trash or spam box today then let me know and I will forward it to Phil to send to you.}

18 Jun 2015 10:28:59
Been reading this lads posts. What's going on? Who's Phil? Our new striker ? :)

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{Ed001's Note - Phil is short for Luiz Felipe Scolari, our new manager set for October, but shhhhh it is a secret, Rodgers doesn't know about Phil being lined up.....}

18 Jun 2015 12:22:19
Ill be reading that in the daily star tomorrow ed lol😂😂

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18 Jun 2015 00:47:39
Asked my Italian mate today about kovacic and what he's like as a player.
He said inter fans rave about him and say he's the next big thing but the rest of Italy and himself thinks he's a player that can look good at times but when the pressure is on he goes missing and is not a leader on the pitch at all.
He doesn't think he will be a hit at Liverpool at all really, more of a player we will be frustrated at, a player that is brilliant one game and anonymous for several afterwards.
I'm hoping he's just a bitter juve fan haha

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18 Jun 2015 07:50:54
your friend is pretty much true, He isn't a player that will give his all match in match out , but you can expect quality from him in patches. and that is the case with every 21 year old , he needs conditions and manager to make him a top top player, just like almost every other player at liverpool. That is why most fans don't want him. he is promising but he is no fabregas.

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18 Jun 2015 08:44:23
Before we got Coutinho I'd asked an Italian friend what he thought and he stated that we were making a dismal mistake and buying him would turn out to be a waste of time. I even posted something to that effect at the time because I took his opinion on. but that's the thing with opinions, especially when they come from Italians, lol ;)

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18 Jun 2015 14:21:35
He`s young and is supposed to be inconsistent so nothing new there. Players like that need guidance and good management around them to succeed which I doubt he will get that here based on the way BR has hung Sterling out to dry for his poor perfs instead of protecting him. The contract issue is a seperate issue from that, IMO.

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18 Jun 2015 00:42:58
As its gone all quite on the coaching staff front I wanted to ask if any of the eds can actually see us getting a defensive coach. Guess its just wishful thinking on my part

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{Ed001's Note - not likely.}

18 Jun 2015 14:22:31
Our defensive woes are uncoachable, says The Nose, so why do we need a defensive coach?

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17 Jun 2015 23:51:30
Eds.

Do you subscribe to the idea that Rodgers lack of credentials puts "big name/marquee" players off signing?

Do you think that another manager like say Klopp, or Ancelotti, would hold more appeal for players?

Or is it purely down to the club's inability to negotiate adequately - or refusal to meet transfer fees or wage demands?

Many thanks as ever.



Rob

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{Ed001's Note - yes, it certainly does now, though the club are not helping matters.}

18 Jun 2015 14:27:17
We are not an attractive club anymore and won`t be until all our internal issues are solved and that takes leadership, honesty and courage, all that we are severely lacking in at the top level at the club

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18 Jun 2015 17:25:58
We'll always be an attractive club. If not for our history then because we're in the FAPL which is filthy rich.

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17 Jun 2015 22:11:39
Eds do expect Lallana and Can to play big roles this season.

Seems everyone is getting caught up in the transfer world and forget there's already bags of talent on hand, just mis-managed or picking up niggles.

Provided fit these 2 guys are surly some of the first names on the team list, not first on the bench.

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{Ed001's Note - I expect them to be regulars, yes.}

18 Jun 2015 14:27:48
Provided they are played in their most effective roles, they will succeed

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18 Jun 2015 17:26:50
What are their most effective roles then Redohio?

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18 Jun 2015 23:15:11
The roles they were bought for as in CM for Can and Wide for Lallana except of course you haven't seen BR play Can everywhere but midfield and Lallana at wingback.

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17 Jun 2015 21:58:41
Ed how long do you think we will be mulling over the Sterling offer from City? We are in danger of him walking away for next to nothing in January but we don't seem to have responded to them? If we knock them away this time then surely were putting ourselves i'm danger and keeping a player against his wishes?

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{Ed001's Note - that is an issue, but the club work in its own ways and want the right deal for Liverpool.}

17 Jun 2015 20:58:11
Normally just read the rumours,however been a member for a long time.Great site,appreciate the Eds hard work always.I rarely post as not normally got anything concreat to offer.But i am getting very concerned with the quality of players we are linked to or have signed (with the exception of Milner).Eds do you believe at least one top quality player will sacrifice champions league football and join us in this window,other than Milner?

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{Ed001's Note - probably not.}

18 Jun 2015 07:32:50
How about konoplyanka ed? Any developments? Thanks

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{Ed001's Note - not to do with us.}

18 Jun 2015 08:11:01
Do you think we should be in for him Ed? Stoke or spurs likely at this stage?

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{Ed001's Note - I think we should have other priorities right now.}

18 Jun 2015 08:54:02
Haven't seen Konoplyanka play more than twice - but he looked quite alright on both occasions. However i belive with Lallana, Ibe, Markovic, Coutinho, Milner we are more than covered in his position. Furthermore we have two exelent talents in Ojo and Teixeira, so i don't see the point in going for him when Sterling is sold.

We should instead invest whatever we can in the two positions most needed: striker and goalkeeper (and defensive mid. if Lucas goes - something i certainly doesn't wish for).

But guess that is wishfull thinking. Would not surprise me if we bought in a few attacking midfielders instead - just to further unbalance the team.

Guess the lineup could end up looking like this next year :-P

Markovic

Konopl. Coutinho Lallana

Henderson Kovacic

Ibe Sakho Skrtel Can

Allen

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18 Jun 2015 10:08:29
I like that set up, Joe Allen is taller than Migs right??

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18 Jun 2015 10:50:46
Just thought that he should literally be the first name on the teamsheet CanIbeTheKing. And since we like to play from the back he would be perfect there. And that mean defense of Ibe, Sakho, Skrtel and Can shielded by a player like kovacic won't concede any chances anyway. So it is perfect

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18 Jun 2015 12:29:00
Guys, you're all reading the team wrong. Brendan favours the back 3 now so clearly it is Markovic in goal with the strength, aggression and heading ability of Couts, Lallana and possibly Konoplyanka at the back.

Obviously Joe Allen's goal scoring record stacks up against the best so it is a no brainer that he plays the lone striker role up front.

I must admit that I was disappointed to see that Migs ball playing skills are surplus to requirements in the centre of midfield.

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18 Jun 2015 00:21:05
It's sounding like Sterling stays for now as we haven't received a bid at the level FSG want to sell. Similar to Suarez the season before he went for a higher fee. I'll get shot down for this but the owners know what they're doing.

Gomez sounds quite likely, Clyne fairly likely, Kovacic so so. Good to see we're being active early in the window.

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18 Jun 2015 02:47:46
Sterling will go, when we get the optimum deal.

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18 Jun 2015 08:37:34
This "LFC don't know what they're doing" mantra trotted out by posters on a daily basis is very black and white.

We have been following a strategy of investing in mainly young players for more than 3 years now while simultaneously getting the clubs finances in shape, putting more performance based clauses into contracts and pushing on with stadium expansion plans. Our average finishing position across those 3 seasons is slightly above the average of the previous 3 seasons (progress). Last season we would have achieved par (5th) based on price of average starting XI and wages but for the players chucking it in.

I won't get into the whole Rodgers thing because he's staying so I'll support him.

On transfers we clearly have a plan as Milner & Bogdan have replaced Gerrard & Jones (net positive for me) and Ings signed for a little more than we've got in for Aspas. So far so good?

We will get money for Sterling, Coates, Borini & Lambert (c45m) so if we sign Clyne, Kovacic/Firmino & an experienced striker (lower fee, high wages) I'd say we will have had a good window.

Surely Lallana, Markovich, Markovich & Moreno will be better for a full season at the club/in the FAPL and Can, Ibe & Origi are all ridiculously young and will hopefully train on.

I'd expect a much better fight for 4th (as a minimum) next season.

If you can't be positive before a ball is kicked when can you be?

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18 Jun 2015 09:16:42
6 new signings by your estimation then? I forsee another season of 'waiting for the new players to bed in' then. I really can't fathom why on his 7th window in Rodgers is still making potentially 6+ transfers. It's just ridiculous- he must have signed and tried to sell more players since he's been here than other manager or team in the PL surely?

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18 Jun 2015 09:53:22
How can Ings replace Aspas ? when Aspas was on loan last year ?

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18 Jun 2015 10:59:57
RDL - most clubs will sign 4-6 players but they aren't all expected to be first picks. Are you saying we don't need at least three players to strengthen our starting XI? And others to replace departures?

Man Utd signed Di Maria, Rojo, Shaw, Herrera, Blind, Falcao & Valdes and managed to improve their finishing position considerably? Southampton replaced half their side and did likewise.

New players don't necessarily mean a season of transition.

And GoanRed - read my post. I didn't say replace Aspas. I'm talking about money in/out.

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17 Jun 2015 23:47:25
There once was a man named Rodgers.
Who ducks and who dives and who dodges. We where certain that he would face the sack
But no it was pascoe that got stabbed in the back.

He cares not for defending, of that he's no fan
He prefers teeth witening and a lovely false tan.
Don't be fooled by his smile and his pleasant demeanour
He's as tactically astute as the melwood cleaner.

His transfer record is certainly no better.
Most definitely worse than your gran's Christmas sweater.
But rejoice fellow fans the man has a plan.
It's our ginger saviour called Adam Bogdan.


Apologies everyone I know that's terrible but hey Just trying to lighten the mood on here a bit.

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18 Jun 2015 01:06:39
Wassa

That was a bit harsh mate.

On the Melwood Cleaner!

I got a chuckle from your poem mate - well done!

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18 Jun 2015 02:38:58
I'm not sure hammering the manager again really lightens the mood. Being positive usually lightens the mood.

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18 Jun 2015 04:47:45
Good shout, bro. Bravo!

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18 Jun 2015 04:52:22
It certainly was terrible but still made me laugh

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18 Jun 2015 05:42:19
Sang it like Eminem

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18 Jun 2015 06:04:27
Our fans used to be respectful
Together we became successful
But shame on this new generation
For destroying our great reputation

Red Rum

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18 Jun 2015 07:51:13
given how the club, on the whole, conducts itself both in the media and in its dealings with other clubs It is not hard so see where our reputation is actually being destroyed.

Do you know what the city is also famous for? A sense of humour.

I mean good god, this is the Liverpool banter page after all and what is banter defined as "The playful and friendly exchange of teasing remarks". I know it's not designed for that particular propose but a bit of playful joking never hurts anyone does it.

Maybe the Eds could consider changing the name of the site to the Livepool bitching, moaning, moping and general lack of understanding towards transfers, football finance or actual football page. It would seem more appropriate.

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{Ed001's Note - it was designed for banter mate, hence why we called it that. The others page is meant to be for the actual in depth discussion and whining.}

18 Jun 2015 08:55:44
Good banter there Wassa ;-)

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18 Jun 2015 09:56:23
I thought the poem had depth and insight and reminded me strongly of Dantes paradise lost in its scope and ambition

I was moved beyond words, rhyming demeanour and cleaner was a call to greatness.

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18 Jun 2015 10:19:13
Excellent stuff Wassa !

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17 Jun 2015 23:36:40
Maybe Jurgen Klopp is clairvoyant?
He knew what the draw would be for Liverpool and decided to take a wee break til late November. By that stage Rodgers will either have surprised us all and steered the team through what has to be the toughest first 2 months of a draw I have ever seen, or he'd have been shown the door. The away fixtures couldn't be worse, but that only emphasizes the need for 3 points in each home game of that period. With Gerrard and possibly Sterling gone, Studge still instagramming his recovery and new players "settling in", It's going to be bloody tough.

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18 Jun 2015 02:39:59
I think if fsg wanted Klopp they would have approached him already.
I don't think they want him as manager.

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18 Jun 2015 07:25:58
Yes Ron, it seems they would rather hamstring an already lame duck and cause further damage to a previously respected club

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17 Jun 2015 23:24:10
Should do all we can to get Firmino. Can play so many positions up front. Think Coutinho would love him at the club to. So many positives from 1 signing.

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