Liverpool Banter Archive February 18 2013

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18 Feb 2013 22:36:44
we shoud have had mel gibson as a medic, would have knocked borini s shoulder right back in and made him finish the game

And got patsy Kensit as his girlfriend

18 Feb 2013 22:32:44
Well I really like the registration idea unfortunately it won't let me register and keeps telling me my email is invalid
I'll keep trying

Chris in Tamworth {Ed002's Note - It is working then.}

The email field is case sensitive. Did the same to me until I entered all lower case then it worked. Cheers

Eds, it doesn't allow you to sign in on the mobile site, can you put forward this comment to the tech guys?

Cheers
GoodKopBadKop {Ed001's Note - we will sort that out.}

Cheers Red, I'm in
Sorry to disappoint you Ed002

Chris in Tamworth

Better luck next time ed002

Lol love it!
ever thought about a members only forum? or too much hassle?

18 Feb 2013 21:55:51
I'm wondering why everyone is suggesting Downing should be sold. He's a decent player and you need decent players in your squad if you want to win things. He shouldn't necessarily be first choice, but can do a job.

Look at all of the winners of the league and their squads and you'll find a lot worse players than Downing!

Raoul

Downing has been one of are best players for last couple of months

It would dependwhat we could recieve for him. over 10milliothen yes, otherwise he s a useful player who seems to be improving in confidence all the while

tom1975

I agree, Downing has been playing well. I fancy him cutting in and shooting and think the goals will eventually come. I also think his crossing has been good the past months. I hope we hang on to him.

19 Feb 2013 07:51:16
sell him if we get somehwere in 10 mill.
and buy mertens.

We couldn't replace him for 10 million so why sell.
Paul the red

I think we all know downing is a form player at the moment he is doing a great job and I for one am happy he has turned things around, but like I said a form player, his form will drop again he's not a young lad he is in his prime now don't expect a lot more from him. I think an offer of around 12m and we would snap anyone's hand off. My only worry is what his replacement would be

18 Feb 2013 21:54:14
Dear Eds and followers.

Thanks for the wonderful site.
To the point. Hearing this stuff about FSG wanting to sell up. because of the abuse from fans and the fact that the 'project' is a lot harder than they assumed it would be. To this point I would love to point out what a lot of us fans are unhappy about.
1. Why appoint Commolli on the back of rave reviews from other Prem League manager's recommendations? John and Tom both said this on LFC. TV so please dnt tell me I'm incorrect. Surely your direct competition would not try to give u sound advice.
2. Hodgson was a mistake.
3. Kenny did extremely well at first but soon found out that his tactics were not good enough for the modern game.
4. Andy Carroll, Oussama Assaidi and Joe Allen. Carroll will never live up to price tag. Assaidi has hardly played. and Joe Allen quite frankly WILL NEVER BE GOOD ENOUGH TO WEAR A LIVERPOOL SHIRT �15million that's �5million more than Xabi Alonso cost.
5. Do John and Tom really believe we are a great club? Well, ask yourself this. would u hire a man who has never achieved anything as a manager other than promotion to the Premier League to manage what is the most successful club in English Football history?
6. Why wasn't the only logical solution to the managerial vacancy explored at the time? Rafa Benitez was never even approached.
7. The business end of the club is on the pitch. no success on the pitch. no europe. no big players and not a great deal of money.

All the fans request is honesty. we want to know when people have made mistakes. why they have made them and how they are going to correct them. because if we dnt better last years finish of 8th. I won't be the only one asking for Rodgers head.

Lastly, Eds know your job is a tough one. however, u cannot criticise the frustration of us Reds. in 3-4 years space of time we have gone from title challengers to Europa League Qualification hunts. Only Liverpool and Fernando Torres became rubbish overnight and nobody knows how. but there are millions of us who know the solution. why doesn't FSG?

Also, Eds. stop lambasting people and saying the answer to Liverpool's problem isn't to spend silly amounts of Money. we have spent silly amounts of Money. just not wisely. and that is the God's honest truth.

{Ed002's Note - I think you are perhaps taking a very naive view and figuring that FSG owe the fans some debt of gratitude. All this "all the fans want is honesty" type stuff is mother country bullshit. FSG has made a number of mistakes that they are well aware of - Comolli was one, most of the fans until yesterday would argue that Rodgers (the new Messiah) was another, but giving Dalglish the job full time was the single most significant error whether you like it or not. Once the fans can step outside and see the future, as well as what is an exceptional past, then perhaps the club can make the progress everyone craves. Until then, harping on about the need for Mascherano, Torres, Alonso, Benitez et al to return will do little more than hold everyone back.}

18 Feb 2013 22:37:58
Agree with ed002

Once again Ed002 nails it!

Mike S

Fantastic reply Ed.

This makes little to no sense. You my friend are one of the fans that give us a bad name. Incorrect, ill informed points with no solutions or helpful input at all. Pure negativity. Oh and how was hodgson an FSG mistake?

Jason

Ed2 I couldn't agree more with you about keep going on about past players and managers. Time to find new stars and support our team.

19 Feb 2013 09:27:49
Tell me more about how Hodgson was appointed by FSG. i'm sure I could pick your post apart more, but I stopped reading at number 2.

YNWA! (Adam)

Dalglish was not a mistake sacking Dalglish was a mistake.

He (Dalglish) took Suarez at his word that there would be no problems with EVRA

The he Dalglish backed suarez

FSG should not have left Dalglish to deal with the media fall-out from the behavior of suarez

Dalglish is a football man not a communications spin doctor, where were FSG and their communication spokesman? Where was Ayre?

Dalglish would have brought success but to dump him after one year was an error that will set the club back at least 5 years in development

We will see if BR is the answer my view is that he's not.

Island Nation

I do agree that if Liverpool did have a chairman that lived in the country then Kenny and the squad would not have wore those t-shirts and thing would not have spiralled out of control and maybe Werner would not have had to fight fires with Standard Charter. Then again, Kenny is a grown man, he should have known better. Too much player loyalty? Possibly!

Thank you, ed. We are an oft ridiculed fanbase for 'living in the past', as glorious and brilliant as it is.

Out of interest, Ed002, what's your opinion or Rodgers at Liverpool? {Ed002's Note - I thought it a job too soon for him.}

If Kenny has one fault it is that he overly loyal to players

And that loyalty was misplaced with suarez

but then again if Kenny did not back suarez and suarez left who would be blamed?

Kenny lives by the YNWA creed which YNWA supporter wants to object to that?

Yes Kenny is a grown man and he should have known better but then it was Utd and all clear thinking tends to discipate when its them and SAF.

I wish it was different, Kenny united the fans and players more than any other manager but that the way it goes unfortunately.

Island Nation

18 Feb 2013 21:52:52
Hello Ed's. I cannot register my sign off name (El Pi**edolero). Is it because of the asterix? Any chance I could get round this as I don't really want to change my name again!

El Pi**edolero {Ed002's Note - It is being worked.}

Haven't been arsed to register but agree with ed002 without FSG there would be no LFC that's a rafa style fact for you, they have realistic plans for Anfield redevolopment and have spent money and let's be honest Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho is a pretty exciting forward line!

Hi all. I'm the guy who made the initial post. I would just like to say I'm not living in the past. I've not once in my post requested the return of Torres, mascherano, alonso etc. Also I would like to point out that it is very untrue that without FSG we wouldn't exist. if u think FSG were the only guys with an offer on the table u truly underestimate the stature of the club u support. Further to the point Ed002. Hicks and gillett may not owe us Liverpool fans anything but no man on this site can tell me they see any progression this season. Reason being is u can pass te ball and have as many shots as u like. however when u haven't got the ball u should be tight and compact like we were u dee Rafa. but we are leaking goals like anything. Ed002 I respect u for saying to one poster that the job came too early for Rogers. this is what I am trying to explain. Also. if we continue to be out of CL do people actually think we can even attract 2moros stars? To be completely fair and honest the only way that will happen is if one is born and raised in Liverpool like Gerrard. I'm not deluded. I was born in Liverpool and have been going to games since I was 9 and speaking honestly. mediocrity is the problem we are facing. a few real alerts surrounded by players that couldn't even get into fulhams team. All of us Liverpool fans live in the past because that's all we have to be happy about. a for te future. well I know we aren't gna be going broke. but still dnt believe we will be challenging for anything for the next year or so.

18 Feb 2013 21:44:45
Hello guys,

Just a thought of mine at the moment about our club and our duty as fans being rather in acceptance in our position in the footballing world and letting acceptance overtake our hope and our enthusiasm within our atmosphere at home games.

Too regularly when being at Anfield this year I can hear chants of "wheres your famous atmosphere?" and you have got to admit that the away supporters are dead right, there is also no reaction from any of our support at all. Now cast back to 1998/99 season and my first home game as a passionate reds fan Liverpool v Charlton on a hot Anfield saturday and apart from our goals I remember 90+ mins of pure euphoric noise and a joy and celebration of Liverpool FC even though there was no tittles in sight, no expectations of European glory and a glimmer of hope of a domestic cup which was dominated by Arsenal or united.

Nowadays in fairness there is no chance of a tittle soon there certainly isn't any European expectancy ahead and even when we have won the league cup and reached a final last year our support seems to of nearly disappeared into the distance unless we are playing united or Everton. I sit in the main stand upper tear with my son who is 5 years old now and we are sat behind a regular group of people who all they do is criticise player after player and always leave around the 85min mark, my boy sings all the songs which as a duty of fatherhood I have taught him since he couldn't even talk and when he sings at the games I join in and nobody around us even joins in! all we hear is "aaahh isn't he cute"!

In 98/99 the KOP were the orchestra and the noise worked its way all around the stadium and everybody joined in and the people who didn't all you could here is "hes on the wrong side mate".

Shocking were have we gone?

What has happened to us? I've had people tell me LFC has become a morgue or a "holiday destination" or a living museum and you have to say you can understand there point of views. Why is there a change of atmosphere? is it because of our inabillity to stay loyal to our team? or has our negativity taken over so much that teams such as Reading, Newcastle etc have picked up on this vibe and no it hurts us and our pride?

My point is simple we were mad passionate fans 15 years ago with no believable expectations and 15 years later at games you can hear your neighbour talking on his mobile phone about what he's planning later with similar trophy expectations.

Ive never seen a tittle win from us but feel privileged to have seen every other trophy arrive at Anfield its high time us as fans started doing our bit to support our team in a vocal way weather you support Rodgers or not, I believe we as a club are waiting for the players to get us going and start singing but in actual fact we should be roaring home our team EVERY game and get them going!

My thoughts only guys we need to do more.

COME ON YOU RED MEN

mattistuta1

Totally agree mate. I sit in the main stand on occasion and have to get single tickets because when I try buy them there's never 3 together (me and 2 mates). But honestly if you even start to singalong people around you never join in. Makes you feel like a tit. I wish we could all get over ourselves and remember our history shouldn't weigh us down but instead give us pride and teach us that a good crowd can be the difference between a draw or a win.
Also we need to stop getting on the refs backs so early in games. I know we haven't had much luck in recent years but giving the refs stick from the word go hadn't been helping IMO.

Jason

Jason mate i'm glad its not just me and my lad with the same feelings on this, I defo think we the crowd can turn losing into a draw/win or a draw to a win. Once you get 1-0 down and score for 1-1 8/9 times out of 10 we would go on to win the game then at the end of the year you have an extra total of points, look at the 08/09 year at games against wigan/boro and united at home even and city away.

mattistuta1

Agree with you lads,
I've been getting to more home games, now working in the city so it's pretty much every home game compared to one or two last year. It does seem in the past few years, maybe even 10 years the crowd just don't seem arsed apart from the first five mins and if we're on top.

if we're behind or struggling to find the net then woe betide the lads on the pitch. I will say sometimes when sitting on the kop it does sound loud, mainly because of the legends up in the 300's. But like you say, down low where I prefer to sit it's a struggle to get anything going and you do feel a tit (maybe need to have a few more ales before the match! :) )

The main stand and particularly the centenary are notoriously quiet with an older season ticket holder crowd. but then again I had a nightmare hangover on the day of the fulham game so the atmosphere suited my fragile head perfectly.

really, really hope some of these silent fans who are going on thursday know their role for this important game. I've got a bad cold but i'll be shredding my voice as usual :D

18 Feb 2013 21:43:43
Fsg are going to be around for quite a while, so let's stop these rumours of there imminent departure. They need the club to be back in the champions league, they also need the redevelopment of anfield in order for them to make a return on there investment. They will hand the manager a �25m+ sales war chest.

Ha 25m war chest rafa and mancini will find that under the seat of there car in change

18 Feb 2013 21:32:38
Whilst Diakite will be on a free I think we'll move for more reliable defensive cover for Carra and Coates if he leaves in summer, Sakho is the man i'd like to see fill the gap, I doubt Skrtel will leave after half a bad season, last summer people were referring to him as the terminator for gods sake!, he's hard working and dedicated and if Carra and Coates leave shipping off Skrtel will only add to problems.
Personally i'd like to see in summer

Reina out for Ochoa
Coates out for Sakho
Carroll out and Spearing out
Downing out for Dzsudzsak, who I think would relish a chance to reignite his career after he ruined it by moving to russia, at PSV he was in my view one of the best wingers in the world and i'd love to see him put on a red shirt.

I think talk of Borini and Assaidi leaving after one season in which they've hardly played is absurd, allthough god knows what's going on with Assaidi behind the scenes at Melwood.

I also hope that Suarez will give us one more season, but if we don't get champions league or at least a Europa league place next season I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave.

Good think you're not in charge then!

Agree with dzsudzsak

18 Feb 2013 21:04:17
Watching the UTD game and it amazes me how the hell they are top of the league, when we were on top at least we were head and shoulders above everyone else. Every time I watch them play it just confirms what a Piss poor league we have in this country and I strongly believe that if we had consistency we would be right up there fighting for the title. We played Utd in two league games and totally outplayed them apart from the first hour at Old Trafford, If we had half of the luck they have we'd be right up there I'm telling you. If Utd were any where near as good as they were even six or seven years ago I would give them credit but did anyone watch the game against Real Madrid? Utd were totally dominated and had to rely on the break. We need consistency and a bit of luck and we'll be fine.

Another deluded scouser. Your light years behing utd. Your going backwards & are not famous anymore. Once Stevie me has hung his boots up & Rat face has departed you'll be lucky to finish in the top 10
Blackpool Red

Even though I agree what your saying, they are lucky. Unfortunately that's the sign of a great team, you have to give credit where it's due the belief is always their. Heads never drop. We need that kind of mentality. We need to play to the final whistle

Consistency comes with quality players, something we lack.

And utd aren't a poor team, they just drew with real madrid at the bernabeu. No one would go there and expect to dominate, you have to set up counterattacking football.

Imagine if we went there, we'd be ripped to shreds.

Luck plays no part over an entire season, quality and depth shine through.

Zzzzzz, how many points are you behind? You can only beat who is in front of you, which United tend to do and you don't. You sound like a bitter blue.

AJH

Oh dear, would you like a packet of crisps with that pint of bitter?

Just a few points on your post - does a 12 point lead at the top in February not constitute 'head and shoulders' above everyone? If not then I need further Maths tuition. And did Liverpool have 2 billionaires playthings and a very competetive EPL to compete with back in the 1980's?

We have a 'piss poor league' (your words) so what does that say for Liverpool, who can't even get into the top 6 in such a poor league? :/

'If we had consistency we would be right up there fighting for the title'. CLASSIC! No comment required.

I hope that was a joke post and if so, fair play to you, it did make me chuckle. If it was for real I'd seriously consider phoning the local asylum!

HoneyBadger

Being top of the league does not necessarily denote a team being 'head and shoulders' above the rest, heck, it doesn't even necessarily mean they are even better. Man City and Chelsea both have better teams, on paper at least, than United, but are no where near United in terms of points. That said, United play out games like champions, scoring against play and scraping out the win, something we really need to work on.

Regardless what was said on the original post, how sad are mancs? Why are they even on this page? That was a rhetorical question because the answer is they are obssesed with Liverpool!

If roles were reversed at the minute they wouldn't be on my mind, maybe it's the five european cups that they'll never get too and it eats them alive or maybe it's because they know when Sir Corn Beef chops retires they will be in s**t street, and back were they belong IN OUR SHADOW. You've got nothing to say and your saying it to loudly Ssshhhhuuusssshhhhhhhhhhh,!

Waro

Hook line and sinker, holy crap I can't believe how many Man U fans read our page. That was a little experiment to find out how much this page gets sabotaged, well my fellow scousers here is the proof. You sad, sad mancs, when we were on top we didn't give you lot a second thought because that's what you were, second rate. We're not what we were admittedly and of course we're miles behind but you lot really need to stop thinking about us so much, but thanks for caring.

19 Feb 2013 06:07:28
united are not a poor team they are not miles ahead of Liverpool I would say the difference is they have a better squad and better income than us but if u matched there 1st team with ours they are not much better,,,

The difference is mentallity like rafa use to
Mention this word all the time but its true. Fergie ova the years has built this in to them they don't know when there beat and they have this belief that they will win something we Liverpool need to grasp too many games pass us by,,

And before any joker has a go sayin Manchester United are way better I jus would like to ask the queation

WER WUD U BE IF U DINT HAVE RVP AND ROONEY SAME AS US WITHOUT SUAREZ AND STIVIE G

Against reading man utd were very average until they bought on rvp and the just got that belief they would score until then they dint look like they had enough to break down
reading

Basy

Lol, head over to the United page where we have to put up with Puzzled and lfc. It's banter boys, get over it.

AJH

I have to disagree. You see the way Utd played last night? that's what makes them champions. A totally crap match but they know how to get the job done. I would gladly give up Liverpools domination of football teams for 3 points and less of this "we played them of the park" rubbish.

The Irish Rover

AJH don't bring me into it as a means of defending your right to post.

Puzzled

Waro

Even with 'mancs' on the page nobody slates Liverpool more than you, lol. Perhaps you are a secret 'manc' and should stop visiting this site also?

Puzzled

Don't get embarrassed about the amount of time you spend on the United site. It is a 'fact' after all and nothing to be ashamed about :)

18 Feb 2013 20:55:03
seeing as carragher is finishing up at the end of the season I was just lying thinking about my fav moments of his career, istanbul came to mind, him rugby tackling owen against united, missing the penalty against portugal for england ( i'm irish so enjoyed that ), the ball he played to torres for the goal against blackburn but the one moment that really stands out for me and always cheers me up is the tackle on nani against united when he started to cry tht is my fav memory so far :P

18 Feb 2013 20:51:53
Dont agree with abusing the owners but surely this isn't just our club that it happens,, plus some people scaremongering saying they don't care who they would sell to is a little out of line. did the EPL not bring in new rules for clubs being bought should this not prevent a lot of the badun's. ? let's hope third time lucky {Ed002's Note - There is indeed a fit and proper person test, but I am not so sure anyone would be selling to "baduns". I would note the mass orgasm of Liverpool fans when they heard of buyer Kenny Huang - a charlatan and shyster if there ever was one. Oh how we laughed.}

18 Feb 2013 20:25:37
Tom Ince and Ashley Williams are pretty much nailed on to join Liverpool this summer while Ciaran Clark and Danny Rose are also targets but Rodgers is also planning an ambitious move for Stevan Jovetic. Liverpool outs that are likely Andy Carroll, Sebastian Coates, Oussama Assaildi, Martin Skrtel, Stewart Downing, Jay Spearing, Dani Pacheco, Danny Wilson and obviously the retiring legend Jamie Carragher.

18 Feb 2013 20:48:38
It would be stupid to sell assadi. We have not even seen him play

And ad borini, Allen, if jovetic its targeted then RAFA IT'S COMING BACK.

Doubt Ince will be coming to be honest, his dad had been urging him not to come back to us and now he's the boss at Blackpool he'll fight tooth and nail to keep him there.

unless, you know, Tom decides to leave in rebellion to Paul confiscating his playstation or something in the mean time ;)

18 Feb 2013 20:20:33
Great work on the registration idea Eds and why is there talk of Ed002 leaving?

Chris in Tamworth

I concur.

What is all this talk of Ed002 leaving? Did the day trip to France morph into leaving for good? Did I miss some earth-shattering announcement that will leave me open to "RTFP" responses?

Then again wouldn't blame him for all the abuse (s)he gets.

The Spurs Page are lining up a 25 million pound bid.
derryred

Chris - I think ED 002 is thinking of leaving because Ed001 has allowed YOU to register

Puzzled

I think he is replacing Rafa at the end of the season

Puzzled

18 Feb 2013 20:19:23
The big announcement on Wednesday is that Sneijder and Villa are touching down in John Lennon Airport on the 20:57 arrival. Make of that what you will.

18 Feb 2013 20:41:41
Wesley just moved to galatasaray for god sake

No chance

/sarcasm

18 Feb 2013 20:13:04
Do you think downing will be sold in the summer and if so who could replace him

Brendan seems to be getting the most out of him ATM and He seems to be finally finding some form so I doubt he will be sold. But there is always the chance he might be.


MIKEY

Jordan ibe.

Dzsusdzsak

we alredy tried for himin january {Ed002's Note - On loan.}

Admittedly ed yes on loan

i do expect our wingforward positions to be strengthened this window, need 10 goals a season plus ten assist men in either role. thenif we keep suarez we ll start to look really strong in our attacking options {Ed002's Note - The priority well be the defence.}

18 Feb 2013 20:12:25
Ed02 I posted last night and it never came up. So il ask again are we being bought over or a new invester by Wednesday cheers. MATTYLFC {Ed002's Note - I am not sure what you mean by "new investor".}

Ed02 what I mean Wil FSG be the owners by the start next season cheers. MATTYLFC {Ed002's Note - I would think they wil be the owners at the start of next season Matty.}

18 Feb 2013 19:47:11
Just wanted to add my two cents to the Downing situation, looks like he will be off in the summer, however, I wouldn't accept anything less than 11-12m for him, I think on his day he is actually a pretty good player, and his performances for the most part this season may warrant a place as a squad player next season. Having said that, if we could get that money for him and utilise it properly, then I agree that selling him would be for the best.

Yeah he has improved but has been nothing more then decent. One or two more goalscorers two dominant centre backs and a top keeper we would be doing well

Bulmer

Agree Downing has been good the past few games, however if we get a bid of around £12M then if we could get Mertens in then I would sell him.

Mertens and dzsudzsak would be two quality additions

18 Feb 2013 19:47:01
Just as an idea for you Ed`s.

your new log in, and the box showing confirmed poster. Use the box with their name in to link to users post history? {Ed002's Note - We kow the post history but I suspect it would not be something we should be sharing. If posters want it shaed you can always search on their name "Blair Mayne", "Waro", "Deke Reefer" etc..}

Ed are they all the same person?

18 Feb 2013 19:26:01
I must admit, I'm a bit baffled with all this FSG out talk. To be fair I can't see what they have done all that wrong.

They have backed the managers with money, maybe not stupid money like �40,000,000 on a single player but that was not what was needed. They have spent within their means, got the wage bill down which was huge and have decided to renovate Anfield which is probably the best option. They have an eye on the fair play rules unlike some teams and are building the squad for the future. I like the way we are not being held to ransom by agents and other teams trying to overcharge for players.

Like it or not we are in yet another rebuilding process, but this time we have a young manager with a vision and owners that will back for the right player. I am very optimistic for the future.

Gazza {Ed002's Note - This is the most sensible post I have seen today and it comes from an ex Spurs player.}

Agreed completely. I think perhaps they are due some criticism for some of their earlier hirings (Comolli comes to mind), but the charges leveled at them for not being financially supportive or that they are 'using money from LFC for the Red Sox' or whatever are just ridiculous.

I love this post. Well done gazza you have posted what I have been thinking. People don't realise if fsg did not buy our club there could of been no Liverpool FC today. We have to be grateful for what they have done and are doing to the club. Like I mentioned a couple of times today we are a club in transition, and with Rodgers at the helm will be a driving force again. Ynwa

Scouse 1892

Completely agree with your post. but the problem lies with the fact that the money they've Provided Has beenWasted. this of course Is not there fault, but in order For us to progress, we need to heavily Invest In the squad. there is belive lies the problem, can they afford to take a big financial gambleagain, if not were does that leave us, mid table obscurity.

Is this the real gazza

Really good post gazza.

Agree 100%. fsg bought and saved Liverpool. had they not bought Liverpool, Liverpool would have been in the doldrums. give them and brendon rodgers time and they will turn Liverpool around for the better. we will be on top again. fsg are businessmen and are currently marketing Liverpool like never before. we will be amongst the elite sooner than most think. SA RED

This post must mean gazza is off the booze. Good man. Lol
More seriously though good post, FSG have made mistakes but they are still great owners who are trying to build the LFC brand responsibly and for the long term.
Chucking money about for short term gain and profit is no longer an option post recession. We at least have a good head start on most of europes top teams in getting the club run properly like a modern business.

MIKEY

Spot on Gazza. We'd be up sh*ep creek without a paddle without them.
gL

And Everton

FSG have made some mistakes, but they were new to the sport and they have taken steps to rectify their errors by parting ways with Comolli and Dalglish etc.

Asking Dalglish to step down so they could appoint Rodgers was a masive thing for them to do and only shows that there is a vision and a strategy to achieve that vision in place.

I am often embarrassed for our club whe I see howsome fans carry on through the faceless medium that is the world wide web.

I hope FSG are not driven to sell the club by narrow minded, glory-hunting fans after a quick fix. Under FSG, I hope and believe in a stable and successful future.

In FSG I trust.

Liverpres, i've just been a little bit sick in my mouth! Apart from that EXCELLENT POST!

Waro

18 Feb 2013 18:48:22
Is it true that my good old ed 002 is leaving this site. let's hope not I think i'd have a little cry if this fine specimen of rumours and non rumours and put down legend were to leave. I heard from my mate that is a frequent user of this wonderfull site.

red walter

18 Feb 2013 18:44:38
Hi eds every time my bro gets one of our players on the back of his Liverpool top it goes tits up for the player. I've been begging him for months now to get sir Alex no1 on his back to see what happens.


gee man

Whos he got now

18 Feb 2013 19:56:31
Or get Nike to sponsor Sir Alex. They seem to have a bad track record with these things - Tiger Woods, Lance Armstrong and now a certain South African.

For goodness sake don't let him get Saurez or we'll really be in trouble! And he probably owes Borini a Get Well card.

ND

Isnt Sterling sponsored by Nike?

I don't mean to be a bad sport but can you get him a new man united top in the summer? Lol

MIKEY

I have a friend just like this, his current list of curses include, clough, collymore, redknapp, Fowler, mcmanaman, Owen, and Cole. They all leave the year after he gets them on his shirt.

Nevada

I stopped when Alonso left and I'd just bought that black away top with gold writing with him on the back that we had in the summer he left.

not risking something as destructive as that again! got my own name on the back last year but feel like a gimp wearing it so no name and number this year!

18 Feb 2013 18:42:10
Is all the talk of the owners looking to sell true thanks JON96 {Ed002's Note - You need to take that up with the folks on Twitter and those posting 6 month old interviews.}

18 Feb 2013 18:22:59
Is anybody else pumped for next season? Look at our games an how we'll we've played since we've signed Sturbridge! He gives us something we've never had before 2 quality strikers, I think if we replace downing with a goal scoring wide man and a centre back we'll be awesome next year!

Anybody else see this?

I agree. Downing would be perfect if he had the confidence to shoot. However, he doesn't, and someone needs to come in to replace Carragher. Someone who is preferably not injury prone.

Deja vu. when have we heard that before

Finally a fan that is seeing the bigger picture and feeling optimistic. Everyone has to realise we are a club in transition it doesn't happen over one season, it takes 2 to 3 years maybe a bit longer. Look at Barcelona it took them a while to get where they are now, and that goes to Spain. Spain was always regarded as the under achievers, know look at them. I'm not saying we are going to be a force like Barcelona, but I do strongly believe we will be a force in the premier league in a couple of years, I feel we will get champions league next year. We need to get behind Rodgers he is the right man to take us forward.

Scouse 1892

Keeping Suarez is key or else we take 3 steps forward and 1 step back in my opinion. {Ed002's Note - I think you may have misquoted the old adage.}

We are only a couple of quality additions to the squad away, agree. Right player, right mindset, right price. Have a feeling a quality free will be key for us.

Piddy.

Ben arfa and ashley williams would be nice. add to that the mighty xabi. and back into the top 4 we go )))

Doh, I have, but I stick to it actually as I think we've taking steps forward but losing Suarez will take us back a bit - Maybe 3 forward and 2 back - but we will not lose all momentum. {Ed002's Note - You perhaps want to look up the definition of "momentum" if you are going back and forth.}

Love it ed. As momentum is equal to the mass x velocity, I believe maybe losing downing and carroll will affect it the most.
derryred

Totally agree mate Sturridge is giving us that extra bit of quality! But it does depend on if we keep Suarez! And to those people who disagree, if we keep this squad together, with like he said 1/2 quality signings we'll be dangerous next year! Great post mate!

Momentum, which type linear momentum or translational momentum? It makes a difference.

18 Feb 2013 18:15:42
Nevada you need to read the posts better. Its not about wanting fsg to go or not. there's the possibility they will go mate. Ed002 knows more than me, but I was told they are considering it'

Big Al

It wasnt aimed at yourself Big Al. Just a few of the other Anti FSG posters.

Nevada

18 Feb 2013 18:05:48
Great work with the site and the new log in system guys,, fairplay.

Keep up the good work

18 Feb 2013 18:02:49
New TV deal due, then LFC is an attractive option to buy. FSG will see it as a business opportunity.

EVO YNWA

18 Feb 2013 17:48:47
consistency that's all we need. and another striker.
mike the red

18 Feb 2013 17:20:32
eds or other posters who is this mike jefferies guy?
and wats with the news on wed from ed02 will it be scary?
mike {Ed002's Note - I have no knowledge about Mike Jeffries aside from he is a "film maker". Folks on Twitter (not a reliable source like WonderDogSparky) apparently said he knew about the club being sold or somesuch stuff/ I will almost certainly not say anything scary on Wednesday. I may, however, wear scary socks.}

Ed002 - no matter what the news is on Wednesday - be gentle with us

Puzzled {Ed002's Note - I really don't think there will be anything more than I have already said.}

Cheers ed just evryone quoting him. is it u will have some news for us wed bout the owners or let me guess I have to wait ha ha cheers

mike {Ed002's Note - I really don't think it is more than I have explained to other posts. But I to make a quick trip to France today and so was not around much. Tomorrow I have other commitments and so will not be around much. Perhaps Wednesday I will have time to field questions on the matter.}

What's happening on Wednesday?

Plymouth Red. {Ed002's Note - I shall wear scary socks.}

Ed002 explain to me how you became a flipping legend.

No i'm a flippin legend. Pancake champion 3 years running.

I heard chuck norris is ed002's maid, therefore ed002 is a flipping legend.

18 Feb 2013 17:08:46
With the discussion about owners. I really think that FSG have backed our managers really well and the continue to do as well. Sometimes its the better the devil you know. Also whether or not you have a billionaire it really doesn't matter with the new rules that will soon come into play. Can we stop blaming everything and look forward to a positive future with some real good young players.

Mighty reds

18 Feb 2013 17:04:11
Eds, I've tried to register for a sign off name but the prompt just tells me my email is invalid. Any suggestions as I've typed it correctly.

Ozone {Ed002's Note - It'll get figured out.}

Same for me Ozone mate.

Phooey.

All you need is for the same thing to happen to me Ozone and you will have the " ignorance is bliss crowd " saying the Ed's are trying to tell us something, ha ha! For the record i'm not doing it because I can't see anyone using my name for there posts!

Waro

18 Feb 2013 16:48:17
Also congrats eds on getting a register sorted. Should help with abusive posters and imposters/id stealers.

Excellent stuff. As always eds you do an outstanding job of making this one the best sites on the net.

Nevada {Ed002's Note - Thank you.}

18 Feb 2013 16:45:25
There are some very hypocritical people on here at times.

For months some people have been moaning non stop about our owners. Calling them yonks, saying you want them out. Saying they don't care about the club and are only interested in a fast buck. Now the same people are complaining upon hearing the rumours about them wanting to sell. Which is it? You want them to stay or go? Or perhaps you just enjoy attacking something.

I don't believe they will go though who could blame them if they do? they invest money (covering losses every year so far with their own money) make funds available for transfer (even though the club was making a loss and could really do with not spending that money) and when they recieve death threats and abuse from supporters of the club that they strive to succeed with.

For me, I like them and think of them as good responsible owners and I hope they stay. I'd much rather the fans who continue to hypocritically berate them should leave instead. We only want people willing to stick together and support the club, top to bottom, not just the select few they feel like.

Can's support all. don't support one.

Nevada

I agree, but in a perfect world we would have owners that loved the club so much, they would never dream of selling up. If (and I know it's only an if) FSG do sell up, it basically proves that the anti FSG brigade were right all along. Personally, I hope that they keep at it, as apart from anything else, I think we are in a good position to keep building over the next few years. Who sells a business with good prospects when it is at rock bottom? Might be a bit simplistic, but am sure it applies in general terms - we will be worth more if we continue to improve.

Anyway, time will tell.

I disagree with you there a little Nick. If FSG do sell it won't prove that the Anti FSG fans were right, it will simply prove that they can chase anyone away from the club.

Nevada

Nevada, although extremely unpalatable, I am pretty sure that some vitriolic abuse from obviously brain dead people wouldn't force anyone at FSG to sell up when it wasn't financially sensible to do so. It would seem very much like an 'excuse to sell' to me. As I say, I think FSG on the whole have done ok, and I am happy with them as our owners, but we will always have the question hanging over our head of 'to whom and when will we be sold?'. I know it is fantasy to be owned by someone who loves the club not the business, but in a perfect world that's what we would have.

18 Feb 2013 16:37:19
Kenny / Roy signings: (ones we purchased)

Henderson - 16m: Started off slow as you would expect from a young player but now looks like he could be a great signing for the future. Very hard work rate and has a great eye for a pass.

Downing - 20m: Still to make a solid impact at the club, still waiting on goals, but is looking much better recently, still isn't exactly what we paid for though.

Suarez - 23m: Bit dodgy, bit of a risky player. But absolutly world class. Would walk into any team and we are lucky to have a player of that calibre considering our position in the league over the time he has spent at the club.

Enrique - 6.3m: Solid defender when fit, brilliant winger when fit, was quite cheap. Fills a position we have struggled to fill since Riise left.

Jones - 2.3m: Not bad, not really that great though.

Adam - 7m: Not quite premier league standard.

Carroll - 35m: Poor lad, just unfortunate that we signed him for a STUPID amount and then changed our style of play effectively ending his career at the club.

Poulson - 4.5m: Can he even play football?

Meireles - 11. 5: Not bad, but not that good. Scored one of my favourite goals though. (Outside foot volley vs wolves)

The other signings never really made an impact (e. g. Koncheski, swapped for Kacaniklic then sold the next season)

Brenden's signings:

Sturridge - 12m: So far so good, lots of people saying he is greedy and inconsistent. 4 goals and 2 assists in 5 games good enough? Is for me.

Coultinho - 8.5m: Great debut game, too early to say much but he looks exciting.

Allen - 15m: Started well, but seems to have lost his way a bit. Do we need another non-physical player in midfield?

Borini - 10m: Not really had enough time to show us what he is made of thanks to injury and now he is out for the rest of the season. Might be sold in the summer, might come back and set the league on fire. Who knows? Not worth 10m so far that's for sure.

Yesil - 1m: Great youth player, scores goals and looks promising for the future. Shame about the injury but i'm sure he will be in the managers plans for the future.

Assaidi - 2.3m: Seen him play 2 games and both he looked at least as good as downing in his current run of form. Play him more?

My point being for this ridiculously long email is that (in my opinion) 3/9 of kenny/Roy's signings have been decent.

4/6 of Rogers' signings have been decent or at least look like they could be decent.

Where did he go so wrong that people want him out of the club? Was it the fact he doesn't have us sat in 4th place yet or just a general moan because we lost to West Brom?

I do believe UTD lost to Crystal Palace last year. Should they have sacked Fergie?

Noshbag

Allen and Borini were terrible signings. Sturridge and Coutinho up to now look like great additions. We have the rest of the season to get them 2 click and hopefully put a little run together. DBol

I don't think either Allen or Borini are terrible signings as they're both quite decent young-ish prospects. We did clearly pay over the odds for both I think, but that's a different discussion entirely.

18 Feb 2013 16:32:14
Viktor Fisscher has signed an extension of three years with Ajax.
DM2013

18 Feb 2013 16:31:42
Just reading that the lad who scored against Everton and twice against us Matt Smith (a better player of his type than Carroll) has been fined a weeks wages �400 by Oldham for throwing his shirt into the crowd.
Despite his late equaliser earning Oldham �500000
How mean are they.
Big Sam at West Ham will be signing that lad instead of Carroll.

18 Feb 2013 16:21:20
A question to one of the Eds. Coutinho and sturridge are cup tied, will they still be cup tied if Inter and Chelsea are out? {Ed002's Note - Yes.}

18 Feb 2013 16:13:23
With our lack of options up front for the zenit game coming up if assaidi is not on the bench I really think that will be it for him to be honest

I would love to see assaidi given a run, love his direct approach.

18 Feb 2013 15:38:08
I think in the summer we will sell:
Reina
Coates
Skrtel
Downing (although his recent form has been OK)
Caroll
That should bring in about 50M or more.
With that money we would need a new GK, 2 CBs and one winger/forward.

Ghandi Floss

18 Feb 2013 15:14:15
Hi ed's with Jamie leaving at the end of the season I believe that we need someone that is willing to fight for the club not someone that is coming in from a foreign league and has to adapt to ours I believe that Kelly or Wisdom or even give Sama should be given the chance ahead of these others as well as this I believe that we should invest in another striker someone that is similar to Sturridge as I believe that we are still a bit light in this department as well we need a quality goalkeeper to come in a challenge for the no. 1 spot

18 Feb 2013 16:24:14
Agree with Mark the Red:
Would also say if next season Suarez and Sturridge were both unavailable for any reason, a knock, suspension, rested in a league cup game.
I think Ngoo to play the Sturridge role and Tom Ince to play the Suarez role,
could be the way to go and would cost less than we get for Carroll. Give us good back up and competition without breaking the bank.
If Pepe leaves the goalkeeping situation should be self funding. Keep everybody else including Skyrtel.
And importantly not too much upheavel we have more than the basics of an extremely good squad so we need stability going into next season.

Take it you don't watch the academy? Ngoo is a completely different style to sturridge.

Take it you do t watch much football? Tom ince in the Suarez role?. wot a crazy post!

Jimbob

18 Feb 2013 14:50:53
I think before we ship out Carroll, we need to give him some chance to see if he can prove himself. I am not saying we should not consider selling him but what I am saying is that we should start him in some pre-season games or even a game before the transfer window closes to see if he has anything to offer to the team.

I am not a big fan of Carroll but I think that under Brendon Rodgers he was not given a proper chance. I mean the lad is still young and can still learn. There are a lot of players who did not play good at early age but turned out to be a good player later.

I know lot of the fans hate Carroll and do not want him in the team (including me) but look at what he has to offer. His strength and ability to win ball in air could be a massive strength to our light weight front line up.

I think the Carroll loves Liverpool and looks to improve if he was given change under new management.

Your Thoughts?

Live-On-Pool.

Hate carroll? why? It's not his fault he was brought for 35million and certain fans such as yourself ridiculing him constantly.

Just no.
I'd understand approach if he'd gone to West Ham and lit up the league and scored quite a few goals and all that but he's not even done that.
He's just not a Premier League player for me, he's slow, can control the ball, can't run with the ball or anything. If we got £15-17 million for him I think that would be the most that we could ever wish to get for him.

Stevie

Of the type, Matt Smith of Oldham is a better player than Carroll.

I really don't think that this is the case. As much as he may not have had a chance under Rodgers, he knows he is not the type of player that can work in his system and I feel that a departure would benefit both parties involved. I don't think the fans hated Carroll at all, everyone wanted to see him succeed at the club but it just didn't work out and we need to move on now. I really do hope he can go to another club and start finding his feet again, but for now we need to look to other players that can play the system. You can see what Rodgers is trying to build and sadly Carroll will never be a part of that.

Luc YNWA.

Completely agree, he's very young and has immense power, if he could work on his technical side I really do feel he will be a gem

He didn't show love to Liverpool or those people who showed faith

He has been at West Ham to ''prove himself'' he got injured and is slowly coming back, scoring the winner against Swansea. But even West Ham and big Sam are questioning whether to take the player on a permanent basis, even if Carroll were to agree a permanent move.

I see Carroll's clogs turning and I think he wants to move back to his beloved black and whites, I don't see Newcastle willing to spend the £15 million, so I think it's all up in the air.

I said the same thing before. He add the extra dimension we need in the team for the more physical games. But there are other quality target men out there that wouldn't require a massive transfer or wage packet.

Mike B

My personal opinion is Andy Carroll's biggest problem is himself. The only one holding him back from being a very good, if not perhaps even exceptional, footballer is Andy Carroll.

For a young lad, he's in pretty awful shape and by all accounts he's not exactly the hardest working on the training pitch (when he shows up not completely trashed from the night before). If he were to get his head on straight and have the sort of drive/determination needed, he could possibly be a top class striker. As it is, he has thus far wasted whatever potential he might have, unfortunately.

With respect to our light weight front line up, I might just say that from I've seen thus far Sturridge is nearly as good as Carroll (if not better in some ways as his movement is far better) than Carroll was/is. Daniel is also only an inch shorter than Andy, so he's not exactly tiny either.

All of that said, I do miss having Andy in the back on corners and free kicks- he was very good at helping to clear the ball out. However if that's about the best thing you can say for a 35M striker, that's not very complimentary really.

Meant to say that specifically Sturridge's hold up play is almost as good as Carroll's. Reading it back, left that bit out. Overall, Sturridge is by far the better striker.

Carroll just ain't good enough, he has a touch like a rhino and prob grinks as much aswel no real pace and to be fair not the best in the air for his size and weight and couldn't pass wind never mind a football

18 Feb 2013 14:46:58
IMO and with some valid information to back it up. I wouldn't be suprised to see FSG sell the club. Suarez, i'm not going to say what could happen there becuase there are some fans on this who dilusioned to the fact that if we don't get CL football which ilooks immiment that he will stay. What he coukd be offered elsewhere overwhelms what he has at Lfc. Look lads the cards are on the table, i'm not holding back, wome want the truth and I am giving it to an extent. Reguarding FSG, we will see.

On another note, a question to all to get involved.
Would you have MOURINHO as manager in the summer?

Big Al

No we need stability, and mourinho would cost to much, although he can get players playing for him, we need the funds to buy them

Yes jose, jose all the way please with a long standing offer from Liverpool when he was at porto

If Mourinho wanted to come I don't think any mentally stable Liverpool fan would turn him down.

I'm not so sure another takeover is needed. Would it not just bring more instability to the club? In the current climate too, who exactly has the sort of money FSG would be wanting to sell?

In terms of Mourinho - would bring short term success if significant funds were made available to him. Not so sure he'd make the most out of academy though

Amz

Don't see the point. he wants very large transfer funds every window. and then when the mood takes him he just ups and leaves

Puzzled

We need short term sucess to build on or if we carry on the way we are we will not be famous any more as they say

If the right buyer comes along who wants to pump large sums of money in the club i'm sure they will sell. I think they would be open to the idea if their valuation is met. {Ed002's Note - If they want a quick out of Liverpool they know the route already - and the value of the club has been assessed back in July and now more recently. Whether they want to sell and whether that value if achieved by floatation would be acceptable to them or not is are entirely different matters.}

Of course FSG should sell up. We could then have someone like Venkys buy us, and then they can get someone like Alex McCleish as manager before gets snapped up by another club.

Ned

18 Feb 2013 17:24:37
Of course everyone would like to see us with a manager like Mourinho, but I'm pretty happy with Rodgers at the moment. Do people not understand that we are struggling for consistency at the moment? We have a decent team, who could easily get top 4 if we played well week in week out. We had striker issues last season, with Luis misfiring, and many of our other players really struggling to hit the net, but we have Sturridge now, who has struck up an immense partnership with Suarez only a few matches into his Liverpool career. Our defense is the best in the league on our day, as are our strike force, it's just a case of changing the mentality of the team to take every game seriously. Mourinho has done well with sides with money. Real, Chelsea, Porto etc. I'm unsure how he would do with a rebuilding side on a limited budget. Sure he would be able to attract top players, but we'd still have to pay for them, and then if they didn't work out we'd be stuck with them for 5 years on stupid wages. Torres is the prime example of a world class, expensive player who has failed to make an impact. He has prem experience, and quality in the squad around him but somehow just can't perform. People don't seem to understand the necessity to make LFC a self sufficient club. Our wage bill is looking a lot healthier than the one Rafa created, and with FFP coming in this is more important than ever. We have the worldwide fan base to make it work, with a bit of patience from the supporters. Give it some more time and we will be fine. We all knew things would get worse before getting better, and there have been times this season where we have hit what could be our lowest point. Things will get better from here on out. I'd like to think that one day, when we are back fighting for the title, that we could have a manager like Mourinho, but right now, Brendan is the man for us.

18 Feb 2013 17:39:42
I'll freely admit this opinion may be coloured by a dislike of Mourinho's personality, but I don't think he'd be a good fit.

We need someone who's here to build (and we also need to give them time to build). Mourinho hasn't done that since he was at Porto. What he's become a specialist at, is going to a team that's already a title winning outfit and making them a more serious proposition in the CL, or taking a team that's close to being a title winning outfit and giving them the extra 10% to take them over the line. I strongly suspect that his next job will be along those lines.

If, for some reason, Rafa had left at the end of 08/09 (and we'd actually had decent owners), Mourinho might have been a good call then.

Here and now, though? Wrong man. So I don't want him.

Mourinho this mourinho that. for gods sake!. give rodgers sometime. I've seen some of the best football Liverpool have played for a long time under brendan. it will come together. just trust him!. what was that saying "rome.

Rodgers is our manager now and he hasn't done anything so bad as to merit a sacking. Mourinho will be great for us for 2 seasons, then he will get bored and leave. Every team he leaves struggles for the seasons following.
derryred

18 Feb 2013 14:30:39
Even though Swansea rested a few players, I still expected a good game. Just because the players aren't as good, doesn't mean they won't try to play well, just look at Oldham. The way Swansea's players played was as if they were payed to lose the match, they weren't even pretending to close us down. It was painful to watch even though we scored 5 goals.

Hounsred

18 Feb 2013 14:30:15
Did you guys hear the roar in Anfield when Coutinho scored?

It was magical. Let's show the same energy again this Thursday and beat the crap out of those Russian side.

Live-On-Pool

What was better was when Gerrard had just scored and we were heaping pressure on Swansea, the crowd were mesmerizing at that point shouting and pushing the boys on if we had that every game imagine haha.

Let this be a reminder to all those blaming us fans when things are not right.
If the players give us something to roar, then we give it more than 100%, but if the players lack the passion, how do you expect the fans to react.

Roy

18 Feb 2013 14:24:12
What's interesting is that with all this talk of fsg allegedly wanting to sell up, the question remains will they want silly money like the 2 owners before them and more importantly who would want to buy us. I'm not jumping the gun, as this is all just speculation but the last thing we need is more instability and infighting played out in public.

They'll obviously accept the highest offer, atleast they've cleared the majority of our debt so there should be a decent amount of investors queing up to buy us.

18 Feb 2013 14:20:24
Looks like we are going to become a Sky1 drama.
Saurez staying or going?
FSG cashing in on the new TV deal?
Stadium, I assume is dependent on the above.
Stability would be nice.
Ed1, I don't look forward to Wednesday but bring it on.

18 Feb 2013 14:14:58
I am only looking at this monetarily but the ground share option does seem to benefit us with the extra seating and the halved costs. I know it is hard to look at 'the share with the blues' ( or what ever words you would like to use to describe them) but if it helps us compete with the mancs it can not be just brushed aside. I do not know if it is the answer as there are too many issues between us to sort out. With out emotion it does seem right but emotions are involved. {Ed001's Note - you also lose revenue along with costs and Everton simply can't afford it.}

18 Feb 2013 14:03:30
Why are so many people getting on Pepe's back when he has the second highest number of clean sheets in the EPL? Our goal difference isn't looking too bad either. what we think of him has no influence over whether he will actually leave or not, however people on here seem to want him to leave! We could do a lot worse than Pepe Reina

Exactly. Yes Reina hasn't been as good as he was a few years ago BUT that doesn't make him rubbish. He is still a top keeper.
Although he is prone to a mistake.
BUT I do think it is a good time to replace him.
He doesn't seem as hungry as before and maybe he himself wants to move.

Leno/Begovic/Muslera?

F5

Over the last few weeks I counted no less that 8 players that people in here want to rid off. just ignore them.

Roy {Ed002's Note - Only 8?}

18 Feb 2013 13:49:29
Feel so sorry for Assaidi. He deserves more game time, from what we have saw of him I think you would all agree he has been class. Lots of people say him and Rodgers had a bust up but he definitely doesn't deserve to be ignored week in week out. Talent wasted. {Ed001's Note - why what has he done? I must have missed him being anything other than just frustrating. Yes he beats a man, but then he loses possession, either putting the ball out of play with a poor cross or trying to beat another man or the same man again.}

He seems quick and tends to run up the wings which no one else is doing at the moment.

I can think of one game he had, a stinker against Swansea in the CCup. looked lost (like many that night) with Carra having to yell instruction to him almost the entire game. I know he's young and settling in but you'd expect him to think for himself more than he did in that game.

come to think of it I don't think he's had a game since.

misterdrumz

Totally agree. Looks a good player to me being wasted sitting on the bench.

Neilp

18 Feb 2013 13:42:09
nice to see the log in brilliant work eds, hopefully this will stop some of the abuse towards this site.

Totally agree with Red Branch, nice touch eds

18 Feb 2013 15:49:19
This post is just to check if mine works ;)

P. S. I'm guessing we don't sign off anymore?

Jolly Red

18 Feb 2013 13:26:27
I'm really surprised with all the negative remarks towards Rodgers. This season was always going to be stabilising the ship he has done that, we have played some really positive football and attractive at that in most of the games. The bad results have come from players bad decisions, or not being able to score when on top. That ain't Rodgers fault. If you want to slag the the manager and owners off I think you should start supporting another club. Liverpool FC don't need supporters like you. I strongly believe there is strong times ahead, we have to be patient.

Scouse 1892

18 Feb 2013 13:06:11
There is no smoke without fire.
Obviously FSG are having their own problems owning two clubs.
Redsox comes first, rightly so.
I get a feeling FSG think they were convinced into a sport they don't understand. They thought it was good for them but is now

Dry Ice, Engine oil on a hot engine, Smoke bombs, fog machines. Hell, MacGyver made a smoke cloud from baking soda and vinegar. There is lots of ways to make smoke without fire.

SpudRed

I'm not too bothered who owns us although I think FSG have done a very good job as we all know we could of been another Leeds Utd had they not saved us so please let's give them some credit, People are forgetting that even if we get took over by an oil rich person/company as the FFP rules are due to start we wouldn't be able too spend the amount most fans want us too and also if we were to be taken over, what happens to all the youngsters that have signed long term futures as the new owners would want to put there own stamp on the club, I hope FSG stay in charge.

. to finish my post. I was cut off.

. but is now viewed as something that is draining their resources at a time when things are difficult in the USA and they need to concentrate on their traditional interests.
They have given it a go and pledged quite a bit of money but managing the demands of a football club like Liverpool proved not so easy.
Choosing an inexperienced manager, however able, was seen to be a mistake in this context.
Whomever they sell to, it will be a straight business decision. Although they do acknowledge the feelings of loyal fans who have not abused them.
Liverpool is still a huge product in Asia. Standard Chartered is based in Singapore. They will probably ask them to use their contacts. People from China, India and not forgetting Thailand could easily show interest. There are some very rich people out there. There is still the Middle East. Brasil has some incredibly rich people but I don't see any offers coming that way.
Rodgers is likely to be kept as manager and any change will be left to the new owners.
They don't believe Liverpool will progress very far in the Europa Cup, even if they knock out Zenit. Which will be a difficult task for any team.

Owners that are really interested attend games and generally like to poke their noses in. FSG have delegated, and this has not gone the way they would have wished.

Suarez may leave in the summer, albeit reluctantly. A big name manager may change his mind, IF he is still there when the manager arrives.

FSG tried their best, but it is really not their sport. They want success, they have enough to do with Redsox.

CSI Chicago {Ed001's Note - they did attend games, until death threats made them stop.....}

You are right I tried to buy red socks in the Liverpool shop and they were nowhere to be seen.

This is not the USA.

I doubt very mush that death threats would frighten them.

There are nutters everywhere.

CSI Chicago {Ed001's Note - if you say so, but being abused at games would put me off going personally, I am sure you must know better though.}

Always said you cannot run 2 huge institutions without prioritising one and financially you surely cannot finance BOTH sufficiently to compete at very top level. IF rumours true and they sell Ed, any idea who potential buyers would be?-Maktoum, Lim, Haung?

I think csi Chicago doesn't understand that they are BILLIONAIRE BUSINESSMEN. Their not going to spend 500million on something they have no idea about. Their move was probably carefully planned out over a long period of time with the advice of the best footballing brains in the business.

misterdrumz {Ed002's Note - There were other threats made aswell - but we don't want to open all of that up again. However, there was, certainly at one point, a plan to attend a game in January that had been proposed during a visit to London by the owner before Christmas. I don't think it happened and I don't know why not.}

Billionaire businessmen would employ someone like Carlo Ancelotti.

Somebody might have assets of millions. I doubt billions, but not have access to it. It may be in realty etc.

CSI Chicago.

18 Feb 2013 12:53:07
Dont get to carried away and I mean that in the nicest way, Swansea still put out 11 professional footballers regaredless but we were allowed the freedom of the park nonetheless.

Yes we played sublime football and it was a pleasure to watch, my only concerns are that Swansea never really closed us down like other teams have done, they did infact allow us to muller them from the start.

The problems occur when sides park the bus or press us hard from from back to front that we struggle and again we need additions to rectify this come Summer.

Yes we are a different proposition when Sturridge plays and Coutinho looks promising, let's hope he progresses into something usefull.

Im not a doom and gloom merchant but I still see the flaws in the team when we come across differing styles of opposition, were still weak defensively regardless of how many 5-0 wins we have.

I still say we need two solid CB`s and maybe a RB and allow GJ to do his stuff going forward, a good solid Mid who can attack and defend, in the SG of old mould.

Id like to see a winger come in who can actually take on a player, beat them and cross the ball into the boxb as i'm not sure about Sterling just yet, maybe in a season or 2 it will be his time to flourish.

Reina just needs to get his head straight or off his pop and be honest about what he wants to do, i'm sure we can attract a decent keeper who can command his box and come for crosses with confidence.

But credit were credits due when we are allowed to play we play good football, let's hope BR can get the players in who can unravel the teams that come to defend and press us when we have the ball, this is were our mistakes occur, and set pieces of course.

Scouse Red

18 Feb 2013 12:44:22
Friedel on a rolling deal if Reina leaves?

18 Feb 2013 12:39:52
we need a login button next to register

I think, perhaps, a 'you are logged in as ' indicator at the top of the page might also be useful.

The register this is a great idea though, well done eds.

18 Feb 2013 12:18:49
Make of this want you want, but first christian purslow. Comes out and says he doesn't think fsg will be around much longer, then mike jeffries says fsg are actively seeking to sell the club. then there's the reports that certain members of fsg want to cut there losses and sell. normally the fsg pr machine would be all over this, but there staying strangely quite. Few months ago when the reports of fsg looking to sell the red sox, John w Henry came out and flatly denied it. It's been over a year since the principal owner was last seen in Liverpool, are we seeing the beginning of the end for fsg?.

Fsg need to man up, report the threats to the police and let the real fans know how we can help them as we need mutual benefits, I do not think fsg are interested in winning any thing but they want things to look good for a sale, what ever they are doing get they need the fans with them as this will be more attractive to the potential buyers, I think they have been naive but bold when giving financial support to managers I wish them all the best but I do not know what they are doing.

It's all a bit strange to me. I guess we will have to wait till Wednesday and Ed2 gives us the lowdown. I can't see them selling up personally, but that is pure opinion and speculation.

Congratulations to the editors on the introduction of a registration and signing in procedure. I am delighted that there will now be greater accountability. What I am less delighted about are the rumours of unrest among the owners, given that the club has suffered so much recent upheaval. Perhaps the rumours are just that, however, and there will be positive news over the remainder of the season. One would imagine that the owners would not have sanctioned the purchases of Sturridge and Coutinho if they were intending to sell the club. There would be little sense in that.

Red Owl

FSG have had a troubled time as owners of LFC.

If being truthful if you were a stakeholder in LFC would you not want to sell?

FSG have misjudged how difficult it is to win the EPL

Chelsea and City have invested one billion each in their clubs makes it difficult to compete with the oil barrons.

And no we won't be able to do a Brussia D. as in Germany there is only Bayern in England there are Both clubs from manchester and chelsea to contend with.

Island Nation

I belive they came in with all the right intentions, but the size of the task of restoring Us to former glories is just too much for them. they've. Made money available. To to all the managers, but it's Blatantly Been wasted.
They've. Not as rich as some other club's, so they can't afford. To keep. Splashing. Out big amounts on average. Players

What is going on on Wednesday?have I missed something?
FowlerisGod {Ed002's Note - There is nothing going on Wednesday - all I said was the matter was not for discussion before then. Sadly Twitter won out again.}

18 Feb 2013 12:16:45
not a rumour just a question. I understand that coutinho and sturridge are cup tied and that they can't play but how come holtby is able to play for tottenham having played for schalke earlier?

cheers ben {Ed023's Note - Schalke are in the Champions League where as Inter and Chelsea are in the Europa League}

These rules are kinda stupid, so what if they played in that competition, more like their previous team!

HK

18 Feb 2013 14:32:51
But Sturridge didn't play in the Europa League? {Ed001's Note - the rules still don't allow it.}

Ed001: If by chance we were to progress in the Europa League and Chelsea and Inter were knocked out.
Would Sturridge and Couthino be eligible. {Ed002's Note - No.}

Evidence of the stupidity of the rule will be displayed when Sturridge plays against Chelsea in the Premier League this campaign.

18 Feb 2013 11:55:16
Ed01 thank you for earlier reply.
I have looked on other forums
And there is a lot of bile. I think fsg have
Made mistakes but I'm more worried of life
After them than life with them.
In your opinion if they did sell would they
Seek responsible owners or would they go
For quick buck floatation? Also
We weren't exactly inundated with top
Offers last time do you think we would be
An attractive proposition to strong backers?

Now I have ownership to worry about as well
As long term future of suarez!

Lost sleep {Ed001's Note - I think they would look to make a profit, not sure the abuse they have received would lead to them giving a monkey's about the clubs long term future. Would you care about a club whose fans threatened your life?}

18 Feb 2013 12:29:31
The grass is always greener, I suppose!
From where i'm sitting, all I can see is them bringing Dalglish in full time because we wanted them too, and them ploughing an extraordinary amount of cash into the club, Financially backing all the managers they've had!
Maybe certain things could be better, but they could certainly be a damn sight worse.

WelshBoyDave

Dont agree with abusing the owners but surley this isn't just our club that it happens,, plus scaremongering saying they don't care who they would sell to is a little out of line ed. did the EPL not bring in new rules for clubs being bought should this not prevent a lot of the badun's. let's hope third time lucky

18 Feb 2013 11:38:25
Thought Michaeal Owen was very complimentary about our display when asked on m. o. d. He also made some good points about the immense difference that Daniel Sturridge makes to the team by actually having the skill and abilty to hold the ball up, play on the shoulder of the last defender, get in behind them with pace and therefore pushing the opposition defence back towards their own goal.
For all that's said about Owen, there's no doubt if he thinks someone's exceptional, well he should know better than most having played upfront at the level.
I was delighted we got Sturridge as I thought he had immense skill.
But to be perfectly honest he's actually probably the best player we could have bought by a country mile and I am totally gobsmacked by how good he is.
Don't think many of us and definitely not me would now swap Sturridge for one our mosted wanted? Cavani. Seriously! definitely not.
Seems like with players like Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho. The tide is finally turning.

kidmillions

18 Feb 2013 11:31:37
I must admit I wasn't too sure if Suarez and Sturridge could work together, boy was I ever wrong. Add Countinho to the mix is making it a fantastic front attacking 3, Downing add's to the top quartert but I see someone else playing there really. If Sterling hadn't of lost some of his form, he would be part of that front 4.
You will have Sturridge occupying the centrebacks, Suarez causing havoc all around the box, which then leaves space for Coutinho and Sterling to do even more damage. I for one am very excited to where the club is travelling, it just takes time.
Just gutting Sturridge and Coutinho can't play thursday. But on that note can anyone tell me why Holtby can play for Tottenham even though he played for Schalke in europe, CONFUSED? Si

I think it's not only about Europe, its about the competition the previous team is now playing. Chelsea and Inter both dropped down to the Europa League while Schalke 04 is still in the champions league.

I think its to do with the fact that Inter and Chelsea are in Europa League but Schalke are still in the CL because inter and chelsea got relegated to Europa that's why Sturridge and coutinho are cup tied whilst Schalke being in the CL and tottenham being in the europa league does not cause issue.

Thanks for the responses

Inter didn't drop down, they were already in the Europa League with us

18 Feb 2013 11:23:55
Really hope Borini comes back stronger, he has the mental and physical attributes to be a success, just needs to brush up on his first touch and get some confidence back! Good luck Fabio!

I agree, some players take longer to settle than others. His movement has always been good but needed confidence and a run in the team. I hope he comes back on top form and silence all the Lucas is rubbish and we shouldn't buy Sturrage supporters.

18 Feb 2013 11:19:40
Hi Eds,

Ed002 mentioned something about Wednesday when asked about the owners selling up. Please shed some light on this as the suspence is killing me! {Ed001's Note - he will, on Wednesday.}

Roll on Wednesday then, honestly think that it will take someone willing to put billions into the club for us to win the PL no matter who we have managing the team

According to the Sunday Times Business section yesterday the economy in Dubai is on the up again after its big downturn a few years ago. Maybe Sheikh Maktoum might get his chance this time at Liverpool.
What about the bloke from Kraft/Cadbury, Robert Kraft.

I'll take anyone who is loaded and looking to plugh in a billion to the club.

{Ed002's Note - I suspect there will be nothing about a sale for a while yet.}

18 Feb 2013 11:09:47
Eds I don't know if this has been answered before but why don't Liverpool fans get a stake in the club? We have one of the biggest group of fans so surely that would help?

Londonred {Ed001's Note - you have to have shares available to buy.}

Surely the owners would think about selling some of their shares to the Liverpool fans though?

We used to have shares but were forced to sell them to h+g.

18 Feb 2013 11:08:32
Some people on here have had and continue to have digs at Kenny and the way he hated the media and didn't try to disguise it, well I for one was right behind him and his disdane for all media outlets, and if ever I needed conformation of there twisting of all things Liverpool I got it yet again this morning.

Just read on the tv text service the Headline says " RODGERS EYES TOP FOUR FINISH! ". I would urge everyone to actually read what he says and not just look at the headline and move on thinking that's what he said, because having read it myself he makes ABSOLUTELY NO mention of a top four finish. Finishing the season as strong as we can is about as close a reference he makes to the headline!

He is under pressure some of his own making with comments he has made a while back, but anyone reading that headline would think here he goes again, why can't he keep his mouth shut. Don't fall for it, the media persons are rubbish stiring again!

Rant over, well done to the lads yesterday, they were excellent regardless of a shadow Swansea team, got to keep that intensity going over the next group of games. I'm not getting to over excited and would urge others not to as we've seen to many false dawns not just with this team but over a number of years, take it one game at a time and see were we end up!

Waro {Ed001's Note - what's this? The second time I have agreed with you! This is getting scary now.}

Waro talking sense??
What next?
Peace in the middle east?
Airborne pigs?
Satan sticking on the central heating?

MIKEY

18 Feb 2013 12:07:21
Mikey, don't post patronising comments. Anyway, I thought you were hitting the disagree button and not commenting on my posts anymore?

Waro

I too like Ed001 agree with Waro. Really:)
By the way Waro, Scotty rd head:)
"Hands across the Mersey" mate
I am originally from the Breck rd, Robson st area although I now live on the Wirral.
You know what us scousers are like when were trying to make point.

kidmillions

18 Feb 2013 12:33:14
Agreed. Used a stick to beat him with last season, but he saw it all for what it was and that was his way of defending the club he loves. Even if it meant that criticism was then directed at him.

18 Feb 2013 13:29:06
We don't back down kid do we, and if anyone wants to argue for a year we will av it with them. Al av a pint in the lutine bell for ye just a joke, its a s**t hole.

Waro

I always think Waro makes sense



Island Nation

There are plenty of things we don't see eye to eye on Waro, but this isn't one of them. All media outlets know how get hits on their stories, and that is to just make up a sensational headline even of it has no real baring on the story. A lot of folks still need to wise up about the British media.

davethebutcher

Island Nation, thanks for the reply mate, word of warning though. You will probably start getting stick now that you have agreed with me on something, that's what some posters are like on here, hopefully you wont!

Waro

I always read the eds comments waro.
After reading what ed001 said I thought I would give you the benefit of the doubt. I can't stand the media either so we at least have some common ground there.
I never press agree/disagree on anyone's posts so all them disagrees you get must be from everyone else. lol
My post wasn't patronising as such but more banter but it must of been lost on you this time despite the fact it's the Liverpool banter page. So cheer up
and give us a smile. :)

MIKEY

MIKEY,
I post if I want to say something or reply to a post I agree with or disagree with, i'm not bothered which button posters click on, you replied to a post I made a while back saying you will no longer reply to anything I post and simply hit the disagree button and move on. So which is it? You do or you don't? You said it which is why I reminded you of it.

And that's a little bit sad by the way that your " giving me the benefit of the doubt " because of what Ed001 wrote, have you no opinion of your own or is it your usual brown nosing of the Ed's?

Waro

Just the usual waro baiting mate. Lol

MIKEY

19 Feb 2013 09:29:42
F*** me, somebodys got a massive chip on their shoulder. God, cheer up son.
WelshBoyDave

18 Feb 2013 11:06:30
Noticed something while observing Michael Vorm as he has been linked with us. I believe either goalkeepers are either more based on reflexes or guessing/instinctive reactions and it was evident on styles of play of Vorm and Reina. where as reina is clearly guessing/instinctive goal keeper and on one to one situation he makes more mistakes if opposite players doesn't give him time and shoots first time for example goal conceded against Arsenal to van persie last season to his near post and few more this season where he was not quick to react to instant shots at goal. where as Vorm is clearly reflexes goal keepers who actually loves people going for shot straight away which was evident in saves from Sturridge 2-3 times and on penalties when he had to guess he was late as guessed right on both occasions but was beaten by pace and height and even on one where Sturridge swivelled ball to his left inside box and trying to bend to corner he was beaten and only bar saved him clearly suggesting he makes better decisions on when situation which require quick reflexes. Reina is completely different and thrives on given little more time to think and makes better saves in situation like delayed shots and set pieces and hence hardly tries to go for ball on corners as he doesn't seems to have confidence on reflexes kind of situation. I don't really know which style is better as it depends on team and players we play against but would love to have goal keepers with both styles in same team as they can help each other.

Harry Oldbury

But on the other hand he did let 5 past him yesterday.

MIKEY

Most top class keepers will keep dossier on opposing forwards, if they don't the clubs goalkeeping coach should. Just to help on one on ones, free kicks, if a player say like Downing cuts in from the right? he likely to have a dig with his left.

18 Feb 2013 10:22:39
Enrique goal just made it up to me and took away the agony of last 2 games. Perfect team goal with sublime touches and unilateral understanding!

Utter tripe saying it was Swansea reserves. We have thrashed Sunderland, Fulham, QPR, Norwich (twice) and now Swansea. Every time when we have thrashed an opposition I have read people telling how poor opposition was. Get a grip!. They were made to look poor!

Some so called fans are like high-end escorts. Not to be touched and never to be satisfied!

Cheers!.

Indian with Red Heart

I don't know which escort service you've been using mate, but generally 'touching' is part of the package.

Melbourne CFC

It definitely was a reserves side, one eye clearly on their final next week so fair play to them and best of luck. If it gets them in Europe then maybe they can sacrifice a dip in the league.

But despite this, we were much more dynamic yesterday, again confirmation that we're a different beast with Sturridge in the side. So sad that he and Coutinho are ineligible for thursday. We've got a good team dynamic when they're in the side at the moment.

great to see goals coming from all over the team, Enrique's goal was the icing on the cake, brilliant team effort.

also, despite it being the far end of the pitch to me, loved Coutinho's celebration, pure joy.

18 Feb 2013 10:14:29
good win. lost a tenner but done mind. l lots of talk about fsg selling. eds adding fuel to fire by saying we'll leave that till wed. do you know more that you tell.
as far as I see it anyone that calls Liverpool football club a franchise should not have anything to do with the club.
marker

I hope you lost by only predicting a 3-0 win and not a LFC loss

18 Feb 2013 10:12:33
So Eds with this new sign up system will this stop anominious posters. I hope so anyway. Antrim Red {Ed001's Note - no, but it will stop people pretending to be someone else to post up comments intended to make them look silly.}

18 Feb 2013 10:01:26
Luis Suarez what a player! He played in two weeks time in the Etihad, 2 times at Anfield, In Doha, Qatar and in St. Petersburg, Russia and in all these games he put in 100% effort for the teams he played for, last night he was involved in all of our goals and created some more chances and was annoyed by Rodgers taking him off in the 78. min. because he wanted to catch up with RVP. These are the type of players that LFC needs. So let me just pay tribute to him here. Long live King Luis!

HK

Great post mate. Top top player.

Bristol Red

He seemed to be flagging in the first half, not surprised after the packed weeks we've had lately.

glad to see him get a bit of rest, he'll again be the lone striker on thursday (not even Borini available now) so it's important we rest him a bit. even if he hates rodgers for it! :)

18 Feb 2013 10:00:14
One of the main pluses from yesterday was the attitude of the players, and their desire - for me this shows that BR can motivate and has all the players onside.
I am sure the players were gutted after the last home game and were keen to give a good performance - but think it does show a real positive for BR's man management skills, as they would have been really low after the last 2 games.

Plus the performances he is now getting out of Downing, Enrique, Hendo etc compared to the first half of the season - I guess it takes time to understand what makes players tick and you need to figure that out before you can really drive them on.

Terry Mac

18 Feb 2013 09:57:19
Loving the sign in thing. achterberg out!
Just wanted to type something to see how it worked

18 Feb 2013 09:48:27
hi- just thought i'd say hello, wiht me new registered name and all! Also does anybody realistically think we have a chance of 4th place- if we keep playing like last night i'd be happy for us just to win matches, hate to say it but Everton and Spurs don't really seem like slipping up.

18 Feb 2013 09:18:05
Lets not get ahead of ourselves again 5-0 is a great result but this was against a very weak swansea side.
Countinho looks good as did Sturridge
In 2013 we have had more shots and goals than any other signs
P. S did anyone see motd2 it was just built around LFC Owen carragher, Rodgers Downing all talking at anfield!

18 Feb 2013 08:46:28
just like to thank you deludeds for enlightening my monday by comparing suarex and sturridge to messi and Ronaldo.

well done for beating a team with 3 1st team players. of course this means the leagues yours nxt season and BR is god.

ms85

Is this the best thing to do with your half term?

Yes mate at 28 i'm really enjoying my working day even more so looking at lfc drama after drama!

how the mighty have fallen!

ms85

18 Feb 2013 08:11:51
Just wanted to point out that last year Swansea outplayed us home and away, we got a draw at the Liberty and got outplayed at Anfield in the league cup this season.
Only Williams, Michu And Rangel could have come in to that line up to make a real difference to Swansea's performance.
Surely no one can dispute the overall improvement in the squad and team performance compared to last year or even August.
The Enrique goal shows how much we have improved in our awareness of teammates positions and fast pass and move. We still have plenty of room to improve but that doesn't mean we shouldn't recognise the signs of improvement in the individual players and team as a whole.

Simon

18 Feb 2013 07:36:38
Sturridge, Suarez and Coutinho were outstanding. Cou could be a quality signing at 20 yrs old. All we need now is to hope the lads stay fit as we have very winnable fixtures until the end of the season. Come you red men!

Rush was ace

Thought Coutinho was really good, shaky at first but that goal did him the world of good.

the real test will be if he goes missing in physical games against the likes of stoke. Players like Suso and Sterling have struggled in these games and can lose heart as the game goes on.

but yeah, really promising. Also the 4th player whose home debut I've seen them get a goal (previously Carroll, Borini & Sturridge)

18 Feb 2013 07:35:44
That'll do nicely, it was so important to win and try an keep up with Everton because we don't play in the league again till march I feel sorry for Borini I hope he shows character to come back stronger but I think he might leave in the summer (along with assaidi) these injurys will just help other players hold down I first team spot like coutinho will probably do, I think there will be a lot of outgoings for us in the summer.

Square tomato

18 Feb 2013 07:31:50
felt very sorry for borini yesterday, hw worked his balls of in the litlle time he had you can see he is trying to prove himself.
hope he will be ok soon and score some goals.

18 Feb 2013 07:27:27
Wigan, Southampton & villa. All away. These are fixtures we once would go into expecting a win and considering nothing else. These days I'm not so sure.
If we take early chances we will always strike fear into opposition defences. Yesterday proved what's possible once you get ahead.

Wigan are more dangerous then Swansea reserves so getting ahead early will be a real plus. Sturridge is so important let's hope he stays fit for the rest of the season.

18 Feb 2013 06:53:22
Just wanted to say that the team played some very attractive football yesterday. Some of the passing and movement was outstanding. 3 of the front 4 were all over the final third and impossible to track.

When it comes together like that, it looks really pretty. I'm sure neutrals would agree that we are easier on the eye than almost any other team in the EPL.

As for me, I care about style but I care more about 3 points - don't care how we get it!

18 Feb 2013 06:09:40
Nice win! I'm really happy not just to see Suarez, Sturridge and Coutinho play some incredible football but that we kept a clean sheet, which will hopefully give confidence to the defenders and Pepe!
I think we should stick to this starting XI from now on, as long as it works! Really made up for Enrique's goal too! Well done BR and all the lads! Now let's beat Zenit 3-0!! I mean this is the club that came back from 0-3 in a CL final?

HK

This is a club that came back from 3-0 in 15 mins more like ;)

18 Feb 2013 04:34:40
Come on you REDS we need another ANFIELD CLASSIC on Thursday!

Stealing what I said on Thursday Red Indian but I don't mind ;)

Wait this is what I wrote exactly. Why is the name "RED INDIAN" there?

IceNine

18 Feb 2013 03:18:40
I'm not going to base anything on 1 performance or even judge a performance against a team clearly missing 7-8 starters with their eye on one of their biggest games ever, but did anyone else think Coutinho looks fairly strong. Reminded me a little of Luis when the ball was at his feet. Great turns, low center of gravity and a mazy type of dribbler. The 20. 5M for Sturridge and Coutinho looks a bargain. I hope the two of them can stay fit and healthy and give us that 3 pronged attack for the rest of the year and for next season. Could be a 40 goal strike force threesome.

Chi-Paul

18 Feb 2013 01:31:45
18 different #lfc players (Coutinho becoming the 18th) have scored this season in league & cup- equalling the club record set in 1999-2000.

Liverpool have had more shots at goal than any other team in all 5 top european leagues

With half the season with 1 fit striker

In terms of play, are we improving?

YES

That's a crazy stat but we still don't have a good enough squad. I think this summer is our last chance to get it right. Don't buy Williams or any other average player. Do buy young players but buy quality like eriksen damioa well that standard of player

18 Feb 2013 00:48:28
i am officially tired of readin the prase 'YOU CAN ONLY BEAT WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU' on this site, lol

I am officially tired of reading moaning posts, but look on the bright side my friend we won 5. 0 :))

Red branch

Well you can only read what's in front of you.

18 Feb 2013 00:29:01
If you think about it today's performance was not that much better then the one against west brom.
Gonna get this in early for next game.
All Rodgers can do is pick the formation and show them how he wants them to play. If we have the better chances in the game then Rodgers has done his job from there it is down to the player and luck. Most chances created in Europe does not mean we are the best team in Europe but It has got to stand for something.

KUMBER

17 Feb 2013 23:18:11
Ed, this might be a bit of a weird question but is Michael Owen supposed to be scouse? I don't know what his accent is but I thought he was from Liverpool.
Cheers
NotInTheKnow {Ed001's Note - no, he is from Cheshire.}

Thought he was from north wales.

lives near to where I used to work, in Ewloe.

He comes from the outskirts of Chester.

Born in Chester, lives in North Wales.

18 Feb 2013 00:06:53
Great win today, you can only beat what's in front of you and I wish Laudrups Swansea all the best next week. On to the point I want to bring up about summer, we will never be able to replace Jamie Carragher but still, my ideal situation would be to move Kelly into CB and bring in a new wingback to help Enrique/Johnson. The situation is spotty with Coates and Skrtel so maybe more investment will we required.

Our midfield is a congested spot yes but I reckon we need a pure out and out fighter in midfield (a la Mascherarno, Didi Hamman to an extent) and a goalscorer in the form of Rakitić or Ilicec (who could be available for a cut price if Palermo get relegated). This is mainly to solidify the team and to take goal scoring burdens of the attackers and shift some weight of Steve G's shoulders.

Shame Sturridge/Coutinho are cup tied for Europa but if we have the departure of Carrol, I would like us to sign Aubameyang from St Etienne. Then we could have a true SAS attack haha. We could go from having no strikers to a choice of 6/7 permitting who stays and goes.

Overall, a bit of astuteness in the market in summer and keeping hold of Suarez/Agger and co. could potentially leave us with a squad capapable of challenging for the top 4 and the cup competitions with a variety of depth. Whatever happens, let's hold our heads up high and support LFC fellow Kopites!

mozzilfc

I can't seem to hear from the sturridge haters?

18 Feb 2013 00:00:57
Now we have won a match can EVERYONE (that includes fans, players and especially the manager) NOT mention anything about the top 4 and just concentrate on the next 2 matches against Zenit and then Wigan. Everytime we win someone mentions it then we lose, so I am banning it.

Ratty888

Look what the manager said on sky. This is the main problem when we win. I would be happy if we get 6th place ahead of the Bitter Blues.

17 Feb 2013 23:50:27
Rodgers Out. hold on did we win? We did Yay Rodgers is god.

Ratty888