Liverpool Banter Archive February 18 2011

 

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18 Feb 2011 23:37:39
There's been a lot of very fickle fans on here this week over our performance in Prague.

Even if we'd had Gerrard, Suarez and Carroll starting it was never going to be an easy game and those of you that expected the crisp, passing game we've all seen recently are kidding yourselves.

You should all know by now that a 0-0 away in Eastern Europe is a goo result.

The Booter

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 23:14:12
Ed who do you think is better Onuoha or Richards? {ed's note - Richards is a better footballer, Onouha is a slightly better defender, but Richards is able to play right back and centre back with ease. Onouha looks out of place at full back. On that basis I would have to say Richards is better. At least from what I have seen of the two of them. Why, who do you think is better?}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 23:20:30
Any news on differentiating between the Eds? I'm slowly starting to know you all but with my limited concentration span, age and way too much cider it's difficult.

I have a few suggestions :-

Rita, Sue and Bob too
Me, myself and Irene
The Good, The Bad and the ed's note

The Booter {ed's note - we do keep saying we will have to sort out differentiating each other one day, I will start a chat about it on our widget and see what we come up with and add any suggestions anyone else comes up with and we will make a decision.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:59:37
Ed any chance of the folloeing in the summer m vila, young, coentrao, kjaer andmata

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:56:49
I reckon Torres will be back at LFC (even though we may hate him now). within two years. . mark my words. . YNWA

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:55:06
I'd love to see these 4 players at our club in the summer.

Cissoko (LB)
Honda (Attacking player)
Turan (Winger)
Wickham (Striker)

There are 2 reasons i'd like to see all these players. (A) They are excatly what we need. (B) They are all LFC fans, and have expressed an interest in playing for the Red shirt one day.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ps. Throw in Xabi Alonso too.
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i understand- regarding honda, that cska's league does not finish in may like ours- would this mean that they are unlikely to want to sell him in the summer? or do you think its more likely next january that we could get him?

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:37:39
Evry1 plzz stop guessing the apperent title winning team of 2011 don't wanna jinx it

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:24:53
I'd love to see these 4 players at our club in the summer.

Cissoko (LB)
Honda (Attacking player)
Turan (Winger)
Wickham (Striker)

There are 2 reasons i'd like to see all these players. (A) They are excatly what we need. (B) They are all LFC fans, and have expressed an interest in playing for the Red shirt one day.

Blair Mayne YNWA

Ps. Throw in Xabi Alonso too.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:23:22
How about barcelona, who they got at LB = Maxwell.
theo walcott blitzed him last year and on wednesday, so i think barca will be sniffing around coentrao (correct spelling) + the eds seem to think we won't get him. hhmmmm barca or liverpool?
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Not necessarily mate. Barca's 1st choice LB is Abidal, and the reason he's playing in the centre is because Puyol is injured. When Puyol comes back Abidal will move back to LB, and Maxi will go back to the bench.

It's Real Madrid who will probably sign him. They don't rate Marcelo that highly, and have been looking a decent LB for 2 years.

Blair Mayne YNWA

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In that case do we know if marcelo might be available. I remember madrid was chasing ashley cole - that could be back on considering chelsea woes this season

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:18:53
Huge rumour going around at the moment that Andy Carroll has been arrested again for assualt! !
What the F**K have we bought! YNWA

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:12:09
For me Damian comolli isn't doing a great job. I know he has only recently joined but, we should not be paying reported fees of 35 million for Carroll and a potential fee of 10 million for Charlie Adam. Comolli should be trying to find players like this but for a lot smaller amount, buying them before they make it big. If comolli does this I feel we
Could rival uniteds production of players since the early 90's, and our production since the shankly-evans era.
Do you agree ed?
LFC23

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:06:00
Amazing News!

Just heard from a reliable source close to comoli and dalglish that we are scouting the chuckle brothers! to replace konchesky and poulson.

*Great piece of business*
-What you think ed?- {Editors note: To me, to you}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 22:03:05
Barca's first choice left back is abidal and they also have adriano but I'm unsure about the defensive ability of coentrao although a very potent attacker.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:53:28
18 Feb 2011 21:27:30
Summer signings I'm hoping for.

J. Pastore
S. Cazorla
E. Banega or S. Defour
S. Marvueax (free)
D. Santon

Ed do you think there's any chance of above?

{Editor's Note: No; No; Possibly; Yes; No.}
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here is my summer wish list
Lovren
Coentrao
Honda
Turan
Pjanic
Barrios

what do you think the chances of my selection Ed?

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:55:55
How about barcelona, who they got at LB = Maxwell.
theo walcott blitzed him last year and on wednesday, so i think barca will be sniffing around coentrao (correct spelling) + the eds seem to think we won't get him. hhmmmm barca or liverpool?
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Not necessarily mate. Barca's 1st choice LB is Abidal, and the reason he's playing in the centre is because Puyol is injured. When Puyol comes back Abidal will move back to LB, and Maxi will go back to the bench.

It's Real Madrid who will probably sign him. They don't rate Marcelo that highly, and have been looking a decent LB for 2 years.

Blair Mayne YNWA

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:53:04
Any one any idea why we keep chasing free agents.
This is why we are in the situation we are.

maxi - free - Carp
jovanovic - free - absolute carp
joe cole - thought he was good but really - carp
konchesky - should have been free -super carp

why do we want taiwo and marveaux - if their clubs don't want to give them new contracts we should be running the opposite direction.

great site eds - do a jiggle {ed's note - the clubs did want to give Marveaux and Taiwo new contracts mate.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:47:51
Ed, when do you think kenny will give players like pacheco and suso game time? they are very promising players and i like the 'spanish connection' with liverpool, though people question their loyalty (fair enough!) look at people like alonso, who, though they left, still love l'pool and have provided a great service to the club! i hope we still buy spanish and foreign players AS WELL AS bringing up british ones! {ed's note - I think Suso will get a few bench appearances later on in the season, when the team gets used to playing with Suarez and Carroll. I am not sure what is going to happen with Pacheco, he isn't applying himself properly in training, but he is not exactly getting an incentive to bother when he got dropped to the reserves when he was trying. I know that wasn't in Kenny's time but it seems to me he is losing his way fast and it is going to take a lot of effort to get him on track.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:46:14
{Editor's Note: I have always found it amusing that American Football doesnot involve the feet - only the hands.}

The kick off ED and the field goals are kicked ;)

If there's two teams i would approach in europe for a bulk sale, it's got to be Dortmund and Bilbao! Nuff Said!

Corkpoolred

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:28:50
I had to laugh at imposter talking about Carra and his shouting. Someone who clearly hasn't played football at any level, let alone a decent standard.

It's comments like these that make some 'fans' complete and utter ignorant idiots. Coming onto this very informative and intelligent site with this pile of dung attempts to distort the majority of excellent posts and what makes this site far better than the rest by a long, long way.

I suggest you go back to your chelsea site. Whilst not all players are 'talkers', the ones that do the talking do so with the manager's strict orders.

Bob the Red

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:29:05
Carra seems to be getting alota stick from the fans on this page. I can understand where you are coming from. Ever since he came back into the team its as if roy hodgson has been in charge again. He is way past it and should do the honourable thing and give ayala or wilson a 1st team chance alongside agger. But the abuse he is taking on this site is ridiculous. The man lives for liverpool fc and the city. He's no hansen, hyypia, etc but he is still a legend because of the passion and commitment he has shown for the past 13+ years. Show some respect!
Red bl00ded!

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:17:32
Ed would there be any chance of Santi Cazorla signing for us? I.e is he near the end of contract or reasonably priced.

Do you know if we have ever shown any interest?

And would you have him?

{Editor's Note: You know there are many good players out there. Liverpool cannot be interested in them all. Santi Cazorla is maybe a target for Arsenal - and aside from that I really don't know.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:19:35
After watching the paint dry in last night's performance it is plainly obvious that what we need to add this summer is some flair and creativity. Two wingers and maybe a playmaker/ support striker would be ideal. Arda Turan and Ashley Young plus Lavezzi or Luis Fabiano.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:26:30
Good news all lfc fans KK is going to sign Arda turan in the summer for 16 million , excellent.He has said again that Liverpool is the club he supports and he will be glad to come.

hibsylfc

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:27:30
Summer signings I'm hoping for.

J. Pastore
S. Cazorla
E. Banega or S. Defour
S. Marvueax (free)
D. Santon

Ed do you think there's any chance of above?

{Editor's Note: No; No; Possibly; Yes; No.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:16:11
Does anyone know what is going on with Dani Pacheco? I thought he would of got atleast 20-30mins last night. Is just not up to it? Personally i think he is a great talent and needs to be given some game time. N'gog has had his chance and hes average at best so now it should
be Dani's! Anyone else agree?
Barnzi.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:16:54
Hello Rover long time no chat?

It's an interesting point you make. It could be that Dalglish may want to try and get this lad interested again and by dangling the carrot of first team action he maybe asking the question.

We all agree i think that under Rafa and Hodgson all the kids may have lost a little heart that they would never get their chance. And by all accounts Pacheco has just completely switched off and gone backwards.

Now what is interesting is that Dalglish is prepared to give the kids at least a sniff of the first team. Taking the kids to Prague was a great move and i'm sure provide fantastic experience and really whet their appetite.

Pacheco has not been given a look in by Dalglish and that is telling. IF he was as barmstormingly good this season in the background and producing some superb performances as some of the fans on here are suggesting then there is little doubt he would be featuring heavily in the first team squad.

He clearly isn't. His attitude is off and by all accounts Ryan Babel worked harder in training. I'm getting the strong impression he either wants out (a la Torres), we don't want him or he isn't realising his early potential.

From what i have seen of him this season he is very disappointing and in some reserve games substandard. I'm getting the same impression of a few others as well, Mavinga for one.

But had we won last night say 2-0 and in the return leg we are 2/ 3 up after 60 mins then that is the perfect time to give Coady and the like a run out.

Bob the Red

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:08:28
Hi ed, which of these do you think is better?
banega-bel martinez-unbel
id be interested on your opinion ed(s)

cheers guys, keep up the good work, even out of the window its addictive!


P.S. To the pillock who posted the comment about this site being carp out of the window, just f off then ya manc scumbag!

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:10:50
From theturdz always first with the real info on lfc
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would love to believe you mate. just that you have such a s*1t nickname !
KB

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:12:44
Hey Ed is Javier Pastore available in the summer? I heard there was interest from City in Jan, but is his contract running out, roughly how much would he go for if not?

Do you think he would be interested in coming to us?

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 21:03:30
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18 Feb 2011 18:53:27
18 Feb 2011 17:56:05
I can confirm 100% we will sign Coentrao in the summer. manu have evra and real have marcelo, city have kolorov and chelsea have a.cole. plus my sources are usually pretty decent.
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I can confirm 100% that you are a richard-wad. .

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Are we confirming 100% that we believe we will get Coentrao, or that this post is richard-wad like ?

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 20:43:30
This is theturdz speaking
further info from my mate who works out with thommo he said we were defo in talks with ashley youngs agent but villa woudnt budge because they were near the bottom of prem we defo got him for next season.
from theturdz always first with the real info on lfc

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 20:52:50
Hi ed what do you think of us signing LB/ WBL, DM, 2XAMRL, STR

BAINES-10M
OR
ENRIQUE-8M


M, VILLA-15M
OR
MATUI-10M
OR
BENEGA-10M
OR
ADAM-10M


YOUNG-15M
OR
TURAN-12M
OR
PAYET-12M
OR
MATA-20M
OR
ELIA-14M


HULK-18M
OR
GERVINHO-12M
OR
BOJAN-20M
OR
WICKHAM-10M
OR
LAKUKU-25M

Personally i would like us to get

BAINES 8-10M max
BENEGA 10m
YOUNG 15M max
MATA 18M max

TOTAL 53M MAX

OUTS

J.COLE-5M
JOVANOVIC-5M
POULSON-2M
KONK-2M
KUYT-8M
AQUALANI-15M
SOTO-1M
NGOG-6M
MAXI-5M
AURELLIO-1M

TOTAL 50M MAX

we would be able to recoup quite a lot from sales and also sve a fortune on wages, as you can see i havent put in a striker as i believe carrol and suarez will be good enough and if needed to we could use either young or mata in a 3 man attack. i no it seems a bit of a fantasy for all the players to leave but i think the 4 player i have put on MY wanted list are realistic players and not out of our reach and would be good quality to add to our squad.

. . . . . . . . .STARTING LINE UP. 4-4-2. . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

KELLY. . . . . . WILSON. . . .AGGER. . . . . BAINES. .
JOHNSON. . . .CARRA. . . . . SKRTEL. . . . ROBINSON

YOUNG. . . . . .GERRARD. . .BENEGA. . . . MATA. . .
JOHNSON. . . . MEIRELES. . LUCAS. . . . .?? ?? ?

. . . . . . . . . .SUAREZ. . . . CARROL. . . . . . . . . .


. . . . . . . . . . . . . 3-5-2. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . KELLY. . . . AGGER. . . . WILSON. . . . . . .

JOHNSON. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . BAINES

. . . . . . . . . .GERRARD. .BENEGA. .MEIRELES. . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . SUAREZ. . . CARROL. . . . . . . .


. . . . . . . . . . . .4-2-3-1. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

KELLY. . . . . . AGGER. . . . . WILSON. . . . . BAINES

. . . . . . . . . . . BENEGA. . . .GERRARD. . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . YOUNG. . . .SUAREZ. . . .MATA. . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .CARROL. . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . 4-4-3. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .REINA. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

KELLY. . . . . . . . AGGER. . . . .WILSON. . . . .BAINES

. . . . . . . GERRARD. . BENEGA. . MEIRELES. . . . . . .

. . . . . . .SUAREZ. . . . CARROL. . . .MATA. . . . . .


What do you think then ed?? ?? please post ur responses to these teams and your favourite formation {Editors note: I think you have given this a lot of thought.I think it is far to early to say}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 20:18:21
@18 Feb 2011 19:38:51 "What is the point of this site outside the transfer window? Ed's have no inside info and takes 2 hours to updat comments. Won't bother anymore."

The cue is in the title - 'RUMOURS'. If it was just for true stuff it would be called 'FACT'. You get the occasional nugget posted by people who rub shoulders with the chosen ones or move in the same circles, but mostly it's what it says on the tin - rumours. And banter. And speculation. But above all fun. Never mind what's the point of the site - what exactly is the point of you? Close the door on your way out.

RED LENIN

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:53:24
Hi Ed, i have in my possesion . .

{Editor's Note: No thanks. But I do appreciate you asking. I think the folk at KopTalk may be interested.}

Ed, i know this is a good read for you, i am in the legal circles dealing with this issue, i have the case documents and if you weren't so sarcastic with that response, and took this offer, you will then be in the know for what is about to take place.

Please Ed, this is not Bs**t, this is genuine.

I urge you to take my offer.

LFC1

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 20:05:24
Really do not know why Banega gets so much hype. Can't even make the Valencia team half the time. . And when he does, very avg. Guess fans all read the papers too much or watch you tube clips.

Only reason he doesn't get in the team is because he had a falling out with the manager. He's top class. Try watching him. I watch Valencia often and every time i've watched him, he's been quality.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:48:22
Ed this is a stab in the dark but you think that we could sign Andriey Arshavin? i think hes a quality player on hes day, and he being hated by the gooners.
would you sign him Ed?
Pops
Post in Rumors please

{Editor's Note: Nope.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:38:51
What is the point of this site outside the transfer window? Ed's have no inside info and takes 2 hours to updat comments. Won't bother anymore.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:19:52
18 Feb 2011 18:31:38
Its reported that Liverpool will go back in for Ibrahim Afellay after miising out on him last summer. He is out of favour at Barcelona and Kenny is reported to be keen on bringing him to Liverpool. I don't know much about him do you ed? Thanks.
Mr T. {ed's note - technically gifted attacking midfielder, mostly left footed from what I have seen, but I am not sure there is any chance he will be leaving this soon after joining Barca myself. I think it extremely unlikely.}

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We do not buy wingers at LFC. We buy rubbish CF's and play them outwide. Think about it. .

{Editor's Note: Which is what may make the club revisit Elia in the summer - he is a more achievable target than Arda.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:21:58
18 Feb 2011 19:10:51
{ed's note - we should be interested, the lad is top class and would suit the Prem down to the ground, but I don't think we are.}

Benega or Martinez Ed? {ed's note - Martinez I meant sorry should have made that clear.}

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Really do not know why Banega gets so much hype. Can't even make the Valencia team half the time. . And when he does, very avg. Guess fans all read the papers too much or watch you tube clips.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:22:02
Could not agree more about Carra Carra Carra the most overated evertonian in the history of Liverpool FC. I can not wait for his retirement, as i won't have to watch him hoofing the ball every week.He has great heart and bravery, but as a footballer he has limited ability. The way he yells at his teamates makes me sick to the stomach and anyone who defends that side of him, are nothing but a joke. if you were at work and a colleague was ffin and blinding at you.You would either chin him or report him.He is slow, fouls most of the time and plays to deep.He is no threat in the final third, and now I heared he is offended by being called a veteran.Its alright Jamie lad youre from bootle and even if you were an evertonian till adult. you will go down as greater than Hansen, Hughes, Yeats, Lawrenson, Thompson, , Lawler, Smith, Big Sami , Mark wright, if you were from london, you would be spoken in the same terms as Julian Dicks.Fact.Apart from that I think you are great.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:23:31
Hi Ed, i have in my possesion ....

{Editor's Note: No thanks. But I do appreciate you asking. I think the folk at KopTalk may be interested.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:10:51
{ed's note - we should be interested, the lad is top class and would suit the Prem down to the ground, but I don't think we are.}

Benega or Martinez Ed? {ed's note - Martinez I meant sorry should have made that clear.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:16:12
If LFC don't buy at least 2 decent wingers in the summer I will officially support the dumbest club in the EPL. So tired of seeing the Dutch Douche Bag running aimlessly all game and the Argentinian Wimp jumping out of tackles and missing the goal from point blank (never mind deliberately passing to Torres to score. . look at it again. .) Is Woy wearing a Kenny mask?? Seriously? And please someone knock Carra the f#** out! !

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 19:16:26
""18 Feb 2011 18:59:42
Ed is it safe to say we are " back "
lol""

Probably - I think the plane from Prague landed earlier on. .

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 18:59:42
Ed is it safe to say we are " back "
lol

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 18:45:39
Just been on LFC site and actually so tired of LFC fans. Bunch of Morons celebrating the worst game of football I have seen in my life. Stayed up to watrch and fell asleep after 20 mins! When Carragher retires I wil support again. he is such a moron and epitimises why we are where we are! Avg player with absolutely no talent. LFC fasn seem to love backing the underdog! Next time he screams at Kelly or Wilson, I hope they knock him the f#** out! !

Play Flanagan, Kelly, Wilson & Robinson now til the end of the season. Build for next year.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 18:17:42
Taiwo- carragher- agger- coentrao
marveaux- gerrard- meireles- young

so u rekon taiwo at right back? What's the point when we've got both Kelly and johnson in that position with flanagan looking promising aswell! Clearly haven't got a clue have you mate Also ed I dot think marevaux woul be the most inspirational signing to be fair not good enough {ed's note - Marveaux is left sided too.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 18:03:52
I would be very happy if we signed Martinez from Athletico Bilbao. Think he is total class and would suit Premiership. Do you think we vould be interested Ed?Opinion please. {ed's note - we should be interested, the lad is top class and would suit the Prem down to the ground, but I don't think we are.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 17:24:54
Ed do you really think turan will sign in the summer? {ed's note - I am not convinced he will.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 17:34:43
Does anyone agree that Johnson looks a better left back than right back?
Especially defensively as he was caught out a couple of time last night by average wingers, but looked solid when playing left back in EPL games

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 17:02:59
Re: i don't think liverpool will go for Asamoah Gyan because a) only joined sunderland in the summer and will take a bit of money to land him b)he is a good striker but to be fair he is not quality enough for us

The main reason we won't sign Gyan is that he would never play in the same side as Suarez after the world cup quarter final handball. It was Gyan who missed the subsequent penalty remember.

Bob

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:43:27
Liverpool are planning a £60 mil spending spree in the summer and their will be a squad overhaul. Konchesky, poulson, Skrtel, Kyriakos, insua, aurellio, ngog will all be making way for new arrivals.
Jose Enrique, Charlie Adam, Gary Cahil, Ashley young, Stephen warnock, Simon kjaer, nicolas lodeiro, asamoah gyan are all on liverpools shortlist.

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Asamoah Gyan?? No wayyyyy! We have Luis Suarez here remember? it's going to be Uruguay vs Ghana all over again.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:43:44
ha .ed reading your comments and some blokes about cocantrao and evra. Evra will be 30 in the summer. he'll not fetch more than 8 million :L

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:37:07
Ed, i must have been talking to a different Ed but i am talking about cocentrao the LB. The other Ed said his likely destinations are madrid and manu but i can't understand man u getting him as he has stated hes a LFC fan, where after a LB and even if evra leaves where would MANu get 20plus million on a LB?Ed, your thoughts, is there a chance we will get him? {ed's note - you have answered your own question on where United would get the money if Evra leaves!}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:33:13
Ed, would you out your money on this? Mourinho for chelsea boss next season, benzema at Lfc and hazard at arsenal?

{editor: That would be stupid, it is all likely but wouldn't say its 100%.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:26:54
Ed, i don't know if you will agree or not but he said he would like to be coached on mourinho and my wife says he will not be there next season and you an me both know his destination. And as for man u, wheter evra stays or not, where will united get the money for a LB at 20plus million who states hes an LFC fan?Ed.thoughts mate?

{editor: Sorry mate, I dont know if you were talking with a different ed but you have lost me.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:23:20
Ed, who do you think has the most potential out of our youngsters and do you reckon we have slightly better players then uniteds youth i.e pogba, been watching him and he looks the player. I personally think coady will turn into a truly great holding midfielder?

{editor: Sterling will be huge I think. Suso, Toni Silver, Jack Robinson and Connor Coady have all got masses of potential. I do think our youngsters are better than Uniteds.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:25:49
18 Feb 2011 15:35:45
Ed how about this:

- - - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - -Carra Agger Kelly- - - - - - - - - -
Johnno - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Enrique
- - - - - -Merieles Rodwell Gerrard- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - -Suarez- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - Carroll- - - - - - - - - - - -

Please post on banter.

Do you think this could work?
{Editor's note - Yes I believe it could work, however I think Coentrao would be a better option for LWB, and I would play Kelly RWB}
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I agree ed Coentrao at LWB play Kelly RWB, put Lovren at CB, have Pjanic in the middle instead of
Rodwell and looks like a team!

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:21:33
Ed, wickam, do you rate him? is he the next rooney?
{Editor's note - No, different style of play to Rooney. His passing isn't as good as Rooney's, but is a very good, young, forward}
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sorry Ed but Rooney is a terrible passer of the ball. In fact I've never seen a so called "world class" player give the ball away as often as Rooney! I don't only mean this season either, he's always given the ball away. In fact he is the most overrated player I've ever seen, he is the emperors new clothes

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:22:16
Could somebody possibly explain why Jovanovic did not play last night ?

Wasn't he a player of the year in Belgium ?

Give the lad a chance and leave Ngog and Kuyt at home !

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 16:07:29
Ed, Do you think LFC will ever unearth a player of messi's quality through our youth systems i.e suso etc. It sounds a bit mad but I think it would lift LFC to the level of the 70's and 80's and be world beaters again!
{Editor's note - There are a lot of brilliant players coming through the academy but not sure if there will ever be another Messi}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:53:19
Ed, wickam, do you rate him? is he the next rooney?
{Editor's note - No, different style of play to Rooney. His passing isn't as good as Rooney's, but is a very good, young, forward}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:35:45
Ed how about this:

- - - - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - -Carra Agger Kelly- - - - - - - - - -
Johnno - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Enrique
- - - - - -Merieles Rodwell Gerrard- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - -Suarez- - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - - Carroll- - - - - - - - - - - -

Please post on banter.

Do you think this could work?
{Editor's note - Yes I believe it could work, however I think Coentrao would be a better option for LWB, and I would play Kelly RWB}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:41:14
Can anyone (inc ed's) name any more british players between 19-24 that would improve our wings / forward line and would possibly be avilable in the summer? {ed's note - Wickham.}

Wickham is 17 Ed, he doesn't fit the criteria ;)

NorthWestBest {ed's note - oooops I missed the 19-24 bit when I read it. Ok scratch that out and add Rodwell instead.}

Call me pedantic but it also says wings and forward line!
I vote for Oxlade-Chamberlain {ed's note - I really need to take more time on my replies! Dammit. But call me pedantic but he is also a central midfielder, so neither of us are right. For wings and forward line I have not really seen anyone to better what is already at the club in that age group.}

Completely agree with you there.

NorthWestBest

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:30:23
Can anyone (inc ed's) name any more british players between 19-24 that would improve our wings / forward line and would possibly be avilable in the summer? {ed's note - Wickham.}

Wickham is 17 Ed, he doesn't fit the criteria ;)

NorthWestBest {ed's note - oooops I missed the 19-24 bit when I read it. Ok scratch that out and add Rodwell instead.}

Call me pedantic but it also says wings and forward line!
I vote for Oxlade-Chamberlain {ed's note - I really need to take more time on my replies! Dammit. But call me pedantic but he is also a central midfielder, so neither of us are right. For wings and forward line I have not really seen anyone to better what is already at the club in that age group.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:27:22
Ed, any news on how Lauri Dalle Valle is getting on these days at Fulham? {ed's note - I haven't heard anything about him, makes you wonder if we were right to let him go after all. You would think he would have been good enough to at least be a fixture on their bench by now.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:21:34
Can anyone (inc ed's) name any more british players between 19-24 that would improve our wings / forward line and would possibly be avilable in the summer? {ed's note - Wickham.}

Wickham is 17 Ed, he doesn't fit the criteria ;)

NorthWestBest {ed's note - oooops I missed the 19-24 bit when I read it. Ok scratch that out and add Rodwell instead.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:14:58
Ed, liverpool have always had an Ince, Hamann, Macherano type player in the midfield and now i can't identify anyone that we currently have to fit that role.Do you think that it is important to replace mach with someone like Banega or Lass? {ed's note - not really, we never used to have those kind of players when we were winning the league. We had midfielders who could play and tackle, surely it can't be so difficult to coach players to do that these days?}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:03:13
Arda Turan to replace Maxi (sell him)
Hulk to replace Kuyt (bench him)

Not sure if we can pull these off in the summer but they would be real coups! and a great improvement to the squad.

The only thing is Comolli's mission is to initially look to recruit the best English youngsters around so spending the best part of 30m on these 2 may not be possible. But then again what English youngsters (19-25) are out there (available) with real ability that can improve our wide areas more than these 2?

Adam Johnson - city would never sell to us.
Ashley Young - but at what price? ?
Albrighton - would they sell??

Can anyone (inc ed's) name any more british players between 19-24 that would improve our wings / forward line and would possibly be avilable in the summer? {ed's note - Wickham.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:04:09
Ed, suso, coady and sterling, do you think they will all break into forst team and how long will it be untl they do? {ed's note - they will break in, but I have no idea how long it will be.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 15:00:01
Finally the calls for Pacheco to be put in as an automatic choice, i cannot understand. There are various sources stating he is just treading water and is not knuckling down and working hard at all. Therefore to reward this is wrong. I don't care how successful he was in the Under 19's in the summer.

Bob the Red
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If this is the case, then why even have him on the bench? Surely that sending a signal out to him that he can be called upon! If he has been treading water & not knuckling down, then put him in the reserves. If he's not going to be used from the bench then it's a waste of a place.

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 14:41:34
Asamoah Gyan - I would have to disagree with you Ed. I think he's class.

He's far better than a few strikers on our books, not including the 2 new lads.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 14:33:26
I really hope we cam keep developing our young like suso and sterling ect. do u believe there could be any plays for them this transfer season?


also i still really can't understand why we made such a massive play for carrol, and didn't do anything about the likes of maxi, poulsen, kuyt? we could have spent 20mil on someone like honda a great mid, and the other 15mil on a partner for suarez?

if nothin happens this transfer about the mids, something has to be asked of the Plans for the club?
maxi, poulsen, kuyt & italian aqua man out, honda and someone like an alonso in. money shouldnt be an isue i don't believe, if we make it back to CL, then tourism in liverpool will boom again which will generate HUGE cash for the club, so if we spend wat we need to get back on that level. surely it must be worth it?

cut the dead weight. right?

aussiepool

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 14:21:39
I can't believe all the fuss over last nights result
with are regulars back in the side an playing at anfield
do you really think think there's any thing to worry about have some faith for gods sake, buy some worry beads or something, we'll take them apart.
walk on

aintree dave

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 14:00:25
Ed this 3-5-2 formation that kenny likes to play do you think its only temporary? because of the lack of width in the squad at the moment , because if we sign arda turan , ashley young or any other winger i can't imagine them player RWB OR LWB could you? i think once we buy wingers we could go back to 4-3-3 which is what kenny started with.

appreciate your views ed

DLG

{Editor's Note: I agree, but every team nneds to have options.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 14:00:33
Once and for all. David Ngog is not up to it and never will be up to it at a top Premier League team. I would think it will be a return to a mid ranking French team in the summer.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 14:02:47
Ed, do you rate marveux, is he an exciting player?

{Editor's Note: He will make a good addition to the squad and is a really nice guy.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:55:16
We have the best chance of getting turan. Athletico are doing worse than us, chelsea play 3 in the middle and 3 upfront their is no room for him, bayern have robben and ribery on the wing, we are in desperate need of a winger, offer first team football and a move to his favourite club.

E.H LFC

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:52:17
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Finally, NGOG. Older than Carroll. Unable to hold the ball up, first touch poor and was totally bullied off the pitch by Repka. I don't think he'll start at Anfield.
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Your comments about the players are spot on but your facts are wrong. Carroll is older by a few months. April 1989 vs. Jan 1989.

We probably still think of Ngog as a youngster. But now that we realize that he is almost the same age as Carroll, I think the consensus is common: He needs to GO period.

Sparta were absolute sh*te last night. I still can't believe that we couldn't find a way through to knock in a few goals. And that's probably why we feel even worse; because our opposition was trash.

I'm not worried at all because we'll rip them a new one next week and I have absolute faith in Kenny. Of course we will have not so good days. Luckily last night, we didn't lose. Now that would have been unbearable.

I guess after watching Spurs and Arse doing and playing well in the CL, it makes my blood boil to see us play so bad. But then again, I'm not worried. When we come up against any one of the top 4 in the premier league, we'll beat them.

Simples. .

We are LIVERPOOL FC.


Do not forget at what position we were a few months ago. Football success is not a fluke or a one-off, it takes time. We've been shafted by H&G for so long, we are recovering. Be a true Red and support your club. Kenny has done a marvellous job so far, not once should we doubt him. And you know it.



Reddie Sixx

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:51:26
For me 1 thing summed up this current liverpool team/ squad last night, no bloody pace, the game was screaming out for raheem but he wasn't even on the bench, i think this has got to be 1 of the priorities when buying players in the summer, in january we lost babel and torres, both players with pace and brought in suarez and carroll both of which i'm happy with but neither have blistering pace, you can see pepe's frustration when he gets the ball and he looks to release it early and all he see's is kuyt, maxi and ngog no wonder he looks pissed off, i remember the game at anfield a couple of years back when we stuffed villa 5-0, reina long boot 2 bounces and reira smacked it in, how i long to see 2 pacy wingers at liverpool and with johnson already here all we need is either marin/ elia or turan and honda in behind suarez and carroll and a new cb and lb and champions league would definetly be within our reach.
Paul

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:49:36
I didn't think the performance or the result was that bad when you put certain things into perspective and you do have to put things into perspective.

Firstly i would not expect the likes of Coady, Sterling, Robinson to have started last night's game in a million years. To do so would be extremely reckless. Playing away in Europe, no matter what the standard, is tougher than the average Premier League match. You have to factor things like travel, hotel, training routines which are all completely different.

You would not expect Dalglish to play Coady/ Sterling away at places like Wigan, Wolves so why Prague?

Secondly, i think it is a given that all fans recognise we have a shallow squad or a squad with insufficient quality or both even. So if a few first team players are out their replacements will make the team weaker, times that by 3, 4, 5 and the weakness deepens further. This is the direct result of the lack of investment of a two/ three year period by messrs H&G. Therefore at times you tend to stick with what little guarantees you have i.e. experienced players.

Looking at what Dalglish had to pick from last night then the 0-0 should been seen as a positive result. The performance tempered by the square pegs in round hole scenario.

If you take young Danny Wilson, i thought he did ok. Solid enough. Factor in that he is pretty green around the gills and we had zero pace at the back with Carra and Kyriakos and Srktel unable to play a full 90 mins, carrying a knock from last week. Add to that the poor showing by Maxi and Aurelio, arguably two players that really shouldn't be in our squad let alone first team, in-effective Kuyt on the wing, non troubling Ngog upfront then we really should be thankful that we didn't get beat by an average Sparta team.

Finally the calls for Pacheco to be put in as an automatic choice, i cannot understand. There are various sources stating he is just treading water and is not knuckling down and working hard at all. Therefore to reward this is wrong. I don't care how successful he was in the Under 19's in the summer.

A dangerous game we played last night, admittedly. Nowadays a 0-0 score away from home isn't as good as it was a few years back. I have no qualms that Sparta will be dumped out next week but to put all your eggs in one basket over a two legged tie is asking for trouble especially if they score and we go into squeeky bum time.

However given the situation the club is in, what alternatives do we have other than try and stay level in the away leg and win the home leg?

Bob the Red

PS I have to add, some of the posts last night were genuinely really funny, especially the one liner posts. Great stuff.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:45:20
Re : Alex Mainstand 11.12am

Well said mate !
We've been p*** poor all season, and it's only since Kenny etc came in that things have looked up.
OK it wasn't pretty last night, but we came away with a draw and another clean sheet (which, if you can't remember, were few and far between pre - Xmas).
Stay positive, keep working hard until the end of the season, then have a look at what needs doing and how we can do it. That's Dalglish's mantra.
KB

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:39:26
Start of season

Since we haven't got much spend
here is the team for next season

Reina
Johnson
Warnock £4m
Cahill £17m
Skrtel
Gerrard
Meireles
Kranjčar £8m
Young £20m
Suarez

{Editor's Note: Andy Carroll?}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:40:13
Ed, marveux? have never seen him play. Whats he like mate?

{Editor's Note: He can play anywhere across midfield. He is left footed.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:37:39
All i can say is, what a site Ed's! First time posting, as I've not seen this posted yet.

Cleansheetsallround.co.uk are saying that Mirror Football are reporting that Newcastle will receive 25% of Carroll's future transfer fee - Ed's do you know if there is any truth in this?

Gaz YNWA

{Editor's Note: It is what has been reported - £30M cash plus 25% of the value of any future sale. I do not know how accurate this is though. The TMS only applies to international transfers at present so I cannot confirm the details of the transfer.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:33:53
Aintree dave here
it was a joke (i should of put in reference lol)
you see if you were local you would of got it
ha ha, sorry ile stop now.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:25:25
Does anyone know what Steve Clark does at the club?

What changes has he made to the team?

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:10:58
Johnson looked useful as a right winger, with Kelly playing behind him this would be a very solid, powerful and pacey right side to the team. Unfortunately due to the lack of a decent left back in the squad it is unlikely that we will see this combination much this season, though it may well be the case that next season this is how the right side pans out. Ngog is simply not good enough. I would prefer to have seen Jovanovic play last night. With a bit of luck we sell them both in the summer and use the money to buy a third striker. In order of priority we need a left midfielder, a left winger, a ball player and a third striker. Summer ins - Enrique (8m), Turan (15m), Javi Martinez (15m) and (Lavezzi (18m). Summer out - Aquilani £14m, Jovanivic £4, Ngog £2m, Konchesky £2m - Net spend £30m and we are sorted.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:13:58
Steven Taylor

Cheik Tiote

Scott Parker

obinna

odemwingie

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 13:01:15
And to the person who said this is a local site for local people. . it also pisses me off when people call it "soccer" but you should understand that there are liverpool fans all over the world (me being one)

i'm pretty sure it was said as a joke - a reference to the league of gentlemen.
Duckula

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 12:57:24
{Editor's Note: I have always found it amusing that American Football doesnot involve the feet - only the hands.} welll. . Field goals? Punts? they use feet lol.

"punts?" - Yeah I'd have to agree with you there mate.

They are "punts". . .

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 12:51:34
The job is not done, you do realise that an away goal is worth 2, and I know our defence has been rather sturdy recently but it only takes a second, one mistake, look at the Wigan result.

Yeah but only if it's a draw. And the team we played last night won't match us at Anfield. On a european night there isn't a more intimidating ground in the world. Real and Barca baulk at the prospect so what will sparta be thinking? They will already know in their hearts that they have lost, and will just enjoy the experience. Trust me we will smash them to pieces I have it on good authority (Jesus told me last night after he defeated me in an epic ninja showdown over the streets of Amsterdam.)

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 12:28:23
Fans and the eds on here saying it wasnt a bad result etc. .if it was hodgson who was in charge last night u would be hanging him, i think he got it wrong if im honest love kenny hes a legend but i think it showed that hes not been involved in europe, just my opinion

adam h

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we probably would have lost the game under hodgson, our defence was crap. at least under kenny we've only conceded one goal in the last six games (i think). you have to build a team from the back.

and to the person who said this is a local site for local people. . it also pisses me off when people call it "soccer" but you should understand that there are liverpool fans all over the world (me being one)

anyways, does anyone know if ferdinand will be fit for march 6th?

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 12:09:09
Last night highlighted all the flaws of the following players in 1 game. In order to improve we must find quality replacements for the following:

Ngog - Not aggressive enough, lacks conviction and that special something (ability), can't play lone role.

Maxi - Technically good, can keep possession well, but rarely beats his man, lacks killer instinct, and final ball. We need a younger version of Maxi but with pace, final ball and better finishing.

Kuyt - Good at holding ball up, good aggression / work rate but touch is getting harrendous, rarely beats his man (unless a meg), crossing / long passes are poor. Too many bad performances at this level. We need a player with similiar aggression / work rate but speed, skill and can beat his man.

Soto - Great heading ability, adds threat in the opposition's box but loses possession far too much with misplaced long passes (hoofs) / unnecessary defensive headers (hoofs) and is postionally inept at this level. We need a strong ball playing centre back with presence and heading ability.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 12:10:37
There's nil-nils you can watch & at the end you can be entertained. Then there's last nights match which was dire to say the least but we were missing 5 potentially certain starters ( Gerrard, Kelly, Agger, Carroll & Suarez (cup tied I know)). So I suppose last night highlights the severe lack of depth we have in our squad. But the bonus is we have now gone 6 games undefeated, something that would have been totally unbelievable 2-3 months ago. One thing that has always nagged me about Liverpool over the years was the lack of effort against lesser teams. Play the Mancs, Chelsea, Everton or the top European teams, its no problem but playing dopey teams in the FA cup or in Europe & the PL then the same desire isn't there.

The Irish Rover

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 12:14:15
Now onto the team performance last night, nothing disasterous to be honest, i still feel Kuyt, Lucas, Ngog, maxi and Cole just aint good enough for LFC, if your true footballing eficionados, you'll know the reasons why, so considering we only had 6 players trying and 5 twiddling their thumbs, it wasnt too bad a result, Im sure Kenny knows what hes doing, but, surely its time for the youth to shine? And i firmly believe Johnson is a better LB lol, keep the faith.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 11:48:16
This is the truth

fans and the eds on here saying it wasnt a bad result etc. .if it was hodgson who was in charge last night u would be hanging him, i think he got it wrong if im honest love kenny hes a legend but i think it showed that hes not been involved in europe, just my opinion

adam h

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i agree to an extent. but must also be mention that with roy we got that sort of performance week in week out, so the 'hanging' would be deserved. .kk has improved our style of play massively since his return, had a depleted side through injury etc last night. .it was awful to watch but think with the way kk has gotten us going lately i will give the benefit of the doubt and put it down to an off night

redross

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

For you lads who don't remember, this is the way we conquered Europe for so long. Draw or nick a win away (solid defensive display) and then 'hit them' at Anfield.
The only fly in the ointment at the moment is if we have the players to 'hit them'. We do when Surez can play and Carroll fit but at the moment with Ngog??
Anyway, we are returning to the Anfield way which was so successful for so many years and will pay dividends in the long run. The young lads coming through are first class and I am sure we will see some more quality buys in the summer.
The King knows they way, keep the faith and support the most successful team in the history of English football


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yea mate i wasnt questioning the king in anyway whatsoever. just agreed it was a very boring game to watch. but the result is what matters and will always take a draw away. . and believe we will finish the job at anfield. .i am very optimistic with kenny at the helm. .especially with the fantastic bunch of youngsters coming through. kk is the best man to nurture that talent. .good times ahead

redross

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 11:36:20
18 Feb 2011 11:13:26
This is the truth

fans and the eds on here saying it wasnt a bad result etc. .if it was hodgson who was in charge last night u would be hanging him, i think he got it wrong if im honest love kenny hes a legend but i think it showed that hes not been involved in europe, just my opinion

adam h

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i agree to an extent. but must also be mention that with roy we got that sort of performance week in week out, so the 'hanging' would be deserved. .kk has improved our style of play massively since his return, had a depleted side through injury etc last night. .it was awful to watch but think with the way kk has gotten us going lately i will give the benefit of the doubt and put it down to an off night

redross

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

For you lads who don't remember, this is the way we conquered Europe for so long. Draw or nick a win away (solid defensive display) and then 'hit them' at Anfield.
The only fly in the ointment at the moment is if we have the players to 'hit them'. We do when Surez can play and Carroll fit but at the moment with Ngog?? ?
Anyway, we are returning to the Anfield way which was so successful for so many years and will pay dividends in the long run. The young lads coming through are first class and I am sure we will see some more quality buys in the summer.
The King knows they way, keep the faith and support the most successful team in the history of English football

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 11:29:21
{Editor's Note: I have always found it amusing that American Football doesnot involve the feet - only the hands.} welll. . Field goals? Punts? they use feet lol.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 11:16:17
Squad After Summer

- - - - - - - - - - Reina- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - Carra - Kjaer - Agger - - - -
Johnson- - - - - - Adam - - - Enrique
- - - - - - Meireles - - Gerrard - - - -
- - - - - Suarez - - - - - Carroll - - -

Subs: Jones, Wilson, Kelly, Spearing, Marvaeux, Kuyt, Wickham

If Reina Goes We'll Sign De Gea or Hart if City will let him go

PLEASE POST ED

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 11:13:26
This is the truth

fans and the eds on here saying it wasnt a bad result etc. .if it was hodgson who was in charge last night u would be hanging him, i think he got it wrong if im honest love kenny hes a legend but i think it showed that hes not been involved in europe, just my opinion

adam h

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i agree to an extent. but must also be mention that with roy we got that sort of performance week in week out, so the 'hanging' would be deserved. .kk has improved our style of play massively since his return, had a depleted side through injury etc last night. .it was awful to watch but think with the way kk has gotten us going lately i will give the benefit of the doubt and put it down to an off night

redross

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 11:12:03
Some people are absolute morons.people saying dalglish got it wrong etc etc.your all clueless.they done exactly as instructed last night apart from we would of liked to have nicked a goal to take to anfield.it wasn't easy on the eye but didn't you all notice the standard of players dalglish had to pick from?under the circumstances dalglishs tactics where almost all he had to use.people need to wake up.we can't play all out attacking football without any of our players who actually know where the net is.dalglish is working with the same useless players hodgson did.it isn't going to be turned round over night.trust in him.this season is a right-off.if we get into the europa league next season then dalglish has already done more than enough.so just be happy with what you get this season and stop moaning like a bunch of idiots.most the people slating us probably don't even go the match.so shhh.

Alex MAINSTAND seat 82

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 11:01:04
I know the game last night was not a very good, but I can't understand why so many fans are moaning about it, Liverpool are in Transition, and all of the issues were not going to be fixed in the first month or two. There is a lot of deadwood at Liverpool, and I am sure there is going to be a clear out in the summer, and I am sure Kenny will be trying to add some more quality as well. The club is now in the best position it has been for many years, The owners are keen to change things, and so is the King. Keep the faith Ross YNWA

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 10:54:47
Give up you shower of muppets this is a soccer site
"soccer! soccer! you're not local!, this is a local site for local people we'll have no trouble here".

ha ha
aintree dave

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What's soccer? Isn't that some American sport?

{Editor's Note: I have always found it amusing that American Football doesnot involve the feet - only the hands.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 10:50:53
EST 1892, or may I call you EST,
I didn't say 'right' I said preferred. The league cup final would be lovely, as would an FA Cup final, and in fact the EUFA final. I'm just talking about this season, its a rescue mission for Kenny.

Oh, and Bob, I don't believe for a moment that they watch 'soccer' in Aintree. Ta ta

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 10:34:27
To
give up you shower of muppets this is a soccer site
"soccer! soccer! you're not local!, this is a local site for local people we'll have no trouble here".

ha ha
aintree dave

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 10:32:15
EST 1892, Sadly we do have players who pick and choose their games, our most notable now gone, supporters too probably, that's the nature of modern football support.
Club support is a different commitment. You may well consider my opinion garbage, and, that's your opinion, but the point I am making is that LFC's preferred place is top four and CL, and although UEFA is respectable and would be welcome silverware, it doesn't have the glory that we slavishly desire, and yes, if you want you can call me a glory hunter.

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

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Every team in the land would prefere CL football but no team has the right. Im guessing that if we get to the final you won't be bothering watching it. Also there is the League cup final coming up and I know that I would love Liverpool to be involved in that game.We will be challenging for and hopefully winning all the major honours with Kenny and the new owners in place. LFC is all about winning, not winning what we want and lets forget everything else and if you can't see that then yes you are a glory hunter.
EST.1892

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 10:12:53
EST 1892, Sadly we do have players who pick and choose their games, our most notable now gone, supporters too probably, that's the nature of modern football support.
Club support is a different commitment. You may well consider my opinion garbage, and, that's your opinion, but the point I am making is that LFC's preferred place is top four and CL, and although UEFA is respectable and would be welcome silverware, it doesn't have the glory that we slavishly desire, and yes, if you want you can call me a glory hunter.

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 10:10:14
Hey lfc fans. . .

i would like to say that i believe liverpool are in the transition period so we are gona see good an bad performances. . however i really don't agree with some fans saying i hope we see caroll soon. .(as if he is the missing link) last night game kinda showed what i said from the start. .

so my question to the eds are. . .name 1 team in the prem. .that doesn't have wingers?? i bet you will only come up with liverpool. . !

cos not 1 player last night. . .ATTEMPTED to take someone on. .EXCEPT RIGHT BK JOHNSON. .
we need wingersssssss not bloody strikers {ed's note - we needed a striker last night, Ngog was giving the ball away every time it went to him. If you play one up front, the striker has to be capable of holding the ball up, instead Ngog would just throw himself to the floor because someone was within 5 yards of him.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:55:59
In the infamous words of one of our past greats 'Id Love it if we got Wiltshire, Love it. .'

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:48:03
Ed- what do you think of Jose Enrique?

Personally I think he has improved so much after a season in the championship and is now one of the best left-backs in the league.

{Editor's Note: He is fine - not great but a decent left back.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:52:19
This is the truth

fans and the eds on here saying it wasnt a bad result etc. .if it was hodgson who was in charge last night u would be hanging him, i think he got it wrong if im honest love kenny hes a legend but i think it showed that hes not been involved in europe, just my opinion

adam h

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:36:07
As much as Redknapp gets grief on here, he made his opinion clear when Spurs got in to the UEFA, that it was a distraction, so didn't spend too much time and effort chasing it. Instead he concentrated on the PL, and look where it got them.
I believe Kenny is doing exactly the same. If we win next week, then fine, if not it doesn't matter at all, and we concentrate fully on our league position, we still have alot to do.
We're going to be in it again next season, so Kenny can decide then how serious he wants to take it, I don't think he will have changed his mind. There is only one place for us, top four and CL, and that's likely to take two seasons.
I don't give a toss about the EUFA, anyone else?

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

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What garbage. . LFC should care about every game they play no matter what competition. Thank god you are not the manager. Dalglish wants to win every game and every competition he is involved in. Last night could of gone better and we all would of done things different ( Pacheco should of played some part ). LFC don't need players or supporters who pick and choose what games interest them.
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18 Feb 2011 09:37:06
I have to say, I love liverpool but last night I was almost tempted to turn over, I was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bored. You would have thought that with all the passing we did we would have got better at it, I was almost as bored as Blaek, the coldest man on the field.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:40:47
OK, I'll fess up to be th eperson who initialy posted "Great if it's true but what is the relevance of their skin colour? I don't remember anyone announcing the signing of two white strikers on deadline day." yesterday (I'm sure the Eds can verify this).

If I had realised what a can of worm it would open then I wouldn't have posted it. However I feel I need to clear up a few things given what has followed on.
Firstly - I was not accusing the original poster of being racist.
Secondly - I was not claiming the word "black" is offensive or racist. I agree, if I was watching a match and I didn't know the names of the players and there was one black midfielder and the rest were white, then saying "the black lad in the middle is having a good game" would be perfectly reasonable as it is an effective way of identifying who I was referring to. One the otherhand if I knew the players names I'd say something like "Johnson is having a good game".

I simply found it surprising that anyone thought the colour of a potential signing was relevant. As someone else said - if we buy them they become a red and that is the only colour that matters.

Once again - sorry for bringing this up in the first place. I hope I have cleared up why I posted it - now let's all just get back to the football.

Bob

{Editor's Note: Thanks Bob - I am with you on this and there will be no more posts accepted on this thread.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:41:35
The job is not done, you do realise that an away goal is worth 2, and I know our defence has been rather sturdy recently but it only takes a second, one mistake, look at the Wigan result.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:41:47
Liverpool have some over paid old average players , who really can't provide what liverpool expects from them.
maxi, joe cole, aurelio, jovanovic & poulsen. . OUT
we need pacy, agile , young quality players in the summer to replace them.
my choices for summer:
Matt jarvis :5m ( would be a really good bergain as wolves r gona get religated & jarvis has been really impressive, & consistent )
Charlie Adam / Tiote : 10m
Enrique / Coentrao : 10m / 20m
Marveux : free
Arda turan / Gervinhio :10m / 12m
Toivonen / lavezzi : 15/ 20

David Ngog and pacheco should be loaned out to gain match expeirence .
Ed? your thoughts, specially on jarvis.

{Editor's Note: I cannot see Jarvis being any more than a squad player at Liverpool. As for the others, Marveaux is done subject to his injury clearing, I don't see a need for Adam, Coentrao seems very unlikely but any of the four attacking players would be a good addition to the side.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:22:47
I didn't see the match yesterday I got on the BBC livetext. obviously reading that and comments on here have shaken me. But let me put this to you:

I watched Man Utd v Southampton. Man Utd were grim. Southampton faded badly. I have watched numerous other games Birmingham at home to Newcastle where they did nothing and they are meant to be scrapping for points. I could go on an on where you expect more from a side but it hasn't happened.

I know we are LFC and our standards are a lot higher. The main aim of peoples attack on the performance seems to be the lack of efforts on goal. Well to be quite honest Ngog has had his chance at Liverpool but we all know the lads weaknesses. We have brought in 2 very talented players to help ease this burden with a possible signing in the summer (if Dalglish wants one). Unfortunately for us one is injured and the other is ineligible. Other injuries haven't helped us such as Gerrard, Agger and the slow return to fitness/ sharpness of Joe Cole. For me Jovanovic cannot the mustard in the Prem. I was there v Blackpool and he just doesn't have enough for me. He is extremley one footed but in these games it is possible to use him, however he may be rusty as a result. My point being the squad as a whole in places is either rusty or out of form/ inexperienced/ not up to it. It is difficult to throw 11 lads out there and expect them to bang goals in. A 0-0 is solid and we have to feel confident taking this back to Anfield surely?

I am backing Dalglish to the hilt even if I haven't seen it. I believe in the man.

What you rek ed?

Spriggo

{editor: It wasn't a bad result, just a boring performance.}

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:15:02
Will everyone shut up we only had 1 bad game

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 09:03:41
I posted this yesterday but wanted to get the eds and other readers views on this.

I think Clarke is the next Liverpool manager. In the summer Sammy is either leave or change roles at LFC, Clarke will take over as assistant. Kenny get the job full time on a 2/ 3 year contract.

Clarke has got the technical knowledge (very good too), but will learn the other side of the business under Kenny. Handling big egos, transfers, the press, general man management skills and most importantly the Liverpool way.

The talk has always been LFC to bring in a young manager to take over the reigns. . Clarke is next inline to the throne.

I mentioned back when he was hired that it seems strange that he wanted management roles when he left chelsea, and he took the position of 1st team coach and not assistant, I think this role allows him to develop a close relationship with the senior and reserve teams players.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 08:51:26
Taking ngog off was a positive move imo, he was woeful. . we changed formation to 3 at the back n push the full backs up to assist the midfield. We had kuyt, cole, maxi n merieless on the field as attacking players. It wasnt pretty, n maybe a few ppl need a rest but I don't think prague were any better. Was a bore draw in europe. . s**t happens! Were 7 games unbeaten.
ItsNotRocketScience

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 08:59:50
As much as Redknapp gets grief on here, he made his opinion clear when Spurs got in to the UEFA, that it was a distraction, so didn't spend too much time and effort chasing it. Instead he concentrated on the PL, and look where it got them.
I believe Kenny is doing exactly the same. If we win next week, then fine, if not it doesn't matter at all, and we concentrate fully on our league position, we still have alot to do.
We're going to be in it again next season, so Kenny can decide then how serious he wants to take it, I don't think he will have changed his mind. There is only one place for us, top four and CL, and that's likely to take two seasons.
I don't give a toss about the EUFA, anyone else?

Mjr Hufton Tufton (rtd)

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 08:40:05
Nothing gained nothing lost, by last night - 0-0 might as well been a 1 game leg.

There were a few things last night that did goat my goat up a bit. Im not being negative, as I can understand, a tough European away tie, don't concede all good - but, it's hard to understand how a Liverpool side cannot know how to attack. .can't remember 1 shot of any worth on their goal last night.

I also feel Maxi, slows our play down loads, I would like to have seen him subbed for Jovanovich for the last 20-30 minutes - at least he would of carried the ball into the opponents half (may have knicked a goal?)

Finally, NGOG. Older than Carroll. Unable to hold the ball up, first touch poor and was totally bullied off the pitch by Repka. I don't think he'll start at anfield.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 08:37:51
Ok, you begged for "someone to come on and defend us now." Well here goes. .
Admittedly Pepe looked more than a little pi55ed off, but this will lift with a few more decent results over the coming weeks. Besides the fact that we haven't won an away leg in Europe this season, in the first 20 mins I was quite impressed with the Reds. Sparta hardly had a kick. Last night though we were missing several key players. There were appearances for squad members that haven't played a serious competitive game for some time i.e. Wilson, Soto, Cole & Ngog. Kuyt has looked tired for the last few weeks and it told last night in the latter stages. Lucas wasn't receiving the support from the centre backs that he's been enjoying. I don't know if Meireles was still feeling the after effects of the bug he'd picked up, but he wasn't on his game either. Admittedly Maxi just isn't good enough. The back four all in all performed quite well, for me Soto was man of the match. Johnson, back in his 'preferred position' looked lost in the first half but bucked up in the second half and had he managed to pick his head up when he got into the box we may have produced more of a threat. People will argue that we should have given some of the 'kids' a run out, can you imagine what row Repka would have left Sterling in? I'd like to know what the sports science guys made of the players that were off form i.e. I'd have rather seen a fresh Jovanović than a knackered Kuyt. Sparta were coming out of there close season, although they hadn't had a competitive game for 3 months and this was their first home game of the season so had to put on some kind of show. They were fresh from and didn't have any injury concerns, what this means is last night is as good as they're going to get. At the end of the day a clean sheet in Europe is no bad thing. I remember seeing some dreadful games away in Europe in the 70's and 80's (Dinamo Tblisi anyone?)
The second leg after a whole week off, with the return of Gerrard, Kelly, Agger and possibly Carroll (ok, I'm praying there!), but we should see a totally different performance at Anfield.
17 Feb 2011 23:46:49
Another nail in pepes coffin, if he wanted to stay b4 that carp tonight im sure he won't now, what a load of dross, i beg anyone to come on now and defend us now, as much as i love kk, that was garbage,

Redgie

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 08:36:38
Ok, you begged for "someone to come on and defend us now." Well here goes. .
Admittedly Pepe looked more than a little pi55ed off, but this will lift with a few more decent results over the coming weeks. Besides the fact that we haven't won an away leg in Europe this season, in the first 20 mins I was quite impressed with the Reds. Sparta hardly had a kick. Last night though we were missing several key players. There were appearances for squad members that haven't played a serious competitive game for some time i.e. Wilson, Soto, Cole & Ngog. Kuyt has looked tired for the last few weeks and it told last night in the latter stages. Lucas wasn't receiving the support from the centre backs that he's been enjoying. I don't know if Meireles was still feeling the after effects of the bug he'd picked up, but he wasn't on his game either. Admittedly Maxi just isn't good enough. The back four all in all performed quite well, for me Soto was man of the match. Johnson, back in his 'preferred position' looked lost in the first half but bucked up in the second half and had he managed to pick his head up when he got into the box we may have produced more of a threat. People will argue that we should have given some of the 'kids' a run out, can you imagine what row Repka would have left Sterling in? I'd like to know what the sports science guys made of the players that were off form i.e. I'd have rather seen a fresh Jovanović than a knackered Kuyt. Sparta were coming out of there close season, although they hadn't had a competitive game for 3 months and this was their first home game of the season so had to put on some kind of show. They were fresh from and didn't have any injury concerns, what this means is last night is as good as they're going to get. At the end of the day a clean sheet in Europe is no bad thing. I remember seeing some dreadful games away in Europe in the 70's and 80's (Dinamo Tblisi anyone?)
The second leg after a whole week off, with the return of Gerrard, Kelly, Agger and possibly Carroll (ok, I'm praying there!), but we should see a totally different performance at Anfield.
17 Feb 2011 23:46:49
Another nail in pepes coffin, if he wanted to stay b4 that carp tonight im sure he won't now, what a load of dross, i beg anyone to come on now and defend us now, as much as i love kk, that was garbage,

Redgie

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 07:19:47
Wow, some people on here sound like Spurs fans of old, turning on our own players and our boss! !

Look job done on the away leg, with the limited resources at KK disposal. Torres gone, Babel gone, Suarez unavailable, Carroll injured, Gerrard injured, Agger injured. . .we do not have the strength in depth available to Spurs, Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea and Citeh. The reason so many of the youth team were taken with the squad wasn't just an indication as to the quality of youngsters we have coming thro, it was more an indication of the glaring problem left for KK.

There are many many positives under KK, moral is on the up amongst players, we are unbeaten in 5 games, our position in the top flight now seems very safe (compared to the frightening prospect before Christmas).

We have a home leg in 7 days to get thro, hopefully Gerrard and Agger are fit, maybe the possibility of Carroll making an appearance. But more importantly it is an opportunity for the fans to show their support for the team in what still is a very tough year.

ChrisE

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 07:40:07
Everyone relax about last night. Our squad is thin which we all know, and take a few players out of the starting 11 and were crap. The recent wins doesn't change anything. Kenny doesn't have many games where he can afford to try the squad players and see what there made of.
I see last night as one of these games and again its shown these players are useless.
The next leg we stuff them simples, then come the summer he has a better understanding of who he wants gone and who stays.
We all know we are 3-4 players short of being a top team so give it time, then after the summer is be surprised if we see kuyt, maxi and ngog playing again for us.

LAVERS

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 08:00:40
What a boring game! I was nodding off watching it and NGog shouldn't be an LFC player IMO. I have never rated him and I never will. It's a shame that KK didn't give some of the youngsters a run out I know Sterling wasn't on the bench but I would've like to see hime get 20 min and maybe Pacheco on for Maxi for a good half hour

Tongo

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 00:05:28
Maxi and dirk need to go, I admire dirks work rate but he has nothing else to offer. It's like watching a baby seal chase a ball. Nothing maxi does ever turns out positive, can't pass, can't shoot, can't tackle! Players like this are holding us back, roll on the summer!

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 00:14:02
Should have brought on Gulacsi for Kuyt too, to play beside Reina
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LOL - Irish Kev, that is brilliant mate - loved it

LIVERPRES

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 00:15:33
Blair, i ca accept us playin poorly but when we don't even try - that i can't accept as a fan! We had no interest in attacking! Taking Ngog off for Skrtel was proof in itself! Negative tactics we showed no interest in changing the score! Pacheco should have come on. At least Wilson did ok. That is my only positive!
Irish Kev.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 00:18:16
Calm down. Calm down. Yes, it was a pretty dire match but it's the final result that counts and we won't know that until after the return leg.
Must admit I can't understand why we persevere with Ngog on his own when he can't hold up the ball with any degree of competence. Kuyt is much better in that role ad can give the central defenders a hard time. And Pacheco should gave had a run out at least for the last half hour given that Maxi was having a poor game.
As for some of the suggestions that our former manager should come back/ would have done better . . get a bl@@@y grip and behave yourselves. You sound like a bunch of bitters.
Newtydreads

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 00:29:55
I can't believe some people are saying those three scary words

'Bring back roy'

I'm not particularly bothered about the result, it seems as though some people are forgetting the fact that it is a two-legged tie.

Stu.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 00:48:27
Another nail in pepes coffin, if he wanted to stay b4 that carp tonight im sure he won't now, what a load of dross, i beg anyone to come on now and defend us now, as much as i love kk, that was garbage,

a draw away from home is a good result not the best performance but a clean sheet to take back to anfield. don't forgot sparta prague have 11 players out there that are going to battle away, infront of there own fans against liverpool, its like a final for them. but you know what as long as we don't get beat i am happy. when we are lifting the uefa cup at the end of the season you won't even remember the result of tonights game.

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 01:07:01
We won the Champions league playing the patient football that we played last night. Get them back to Anfield and send them packing. .

Black Red

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 01:26:29
And the band-wagon jumpers go on 0-0 in the champoins league wood have been brill but not good enugh to night i have to say 2 maney people think we are better than we are a lot of work to b don but we are not far away but for the first time in 20 years i belive its not far away never felt better going forward than i do now long live the king red and proud for ever

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 01:40:02
Cole looked like he wants to be playing for lfc. Only a matter of time before he brings the goods with him. I really wana see him get given a chance to shine! . Enough is enough give pacheco a chance when games are like that and no ngog. What you reckon ed ?. Joe will be a key player you will see !

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 01:46:37
Okay, we played very badly tonight. But lets not forge that we were missing Agger, stevie, suarez and Caroll. Our squad has a very weak width. That Will All change in the summer, intim then, brage yourselves, support the team and pray our injured players return to action soon. YNWA. LPDK

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 02:34:05
Lucas MOTM so far. Kuyt gets worse with every game.
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Lucas MOTM? Really? ?

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Lucas MOTM so far? . . did you type this prior to the glue fumes taking effect? or did one of those flares go off in your front room and impair your vision for the entire match?

Let's be honest as a team we were poor, and Lucas was certainly not MOTM at any stage! All he did was drop deep, (so deep in fact he may as well of played centre back), receive the ball from the even deeper centre backs, then looked to pass the ball sideways to a player invariably 10 metres away, and then move a step backwards and looked to receive the ball again.

Alot of our problems tonight stemmed from the fact that our attacks were having to start from 30 metres inside our own half, and Lucas didn't help the situation by then passing the ball sidewards, however, as a team it's a problem we have had for 18 months and tonight just simply emphasised it.

Kenny said all the right things in his post match interviews (as always), but he isn't fooled , he knows where our problems lie.

Roll on next week, and lets show Sparta Prague an improved performance at Anfield . . and I'm sure tickets won't be £145 for away fans!

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 02:46:55
This is a joke jova has to b a better option than ngog hes a disgrace along with maxi should never play for us again

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 02:48:13
Another nail in pepes coffin, if he wanted to stay b4 that carp tonight im sure he won't now, what a load of dross, i beg anyone to come on now and defend us now, as much as i love kk, that was garbage,
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You are overreacting mate. I don't think one Europa away clash will be the deciding factor in Pepe's decision.

Everyone needs to calm down a bit - yes it was a dire match but it was just a lacklustre performance by the team. We didn't concede so it could have been worse.

I am not defending the way we played or the team selection or subs (Cole and Pacheco should have been on for Aurelio and Kuyt IMO), but just want to point out that it is just one game and will not decide the fate of our players or our season.

Cheer up reds and look forward to next week!

LIVERPRES

 

 

 

 

18 Feb 2011 06:14:45
Morning ED

I have to agree with the majority of comments on here the match was poor to say the least.The best part was the half time whistle.It allowed me to get some prozac (lol), Anyhow down to my point I like Ngog and I know his ball control has not been the best but it was terrible last night.I know he is young and has a lot to learn but at the present I don't see him being a top class striker, do you see him departing in the summer?

I see some rumours are linking us with levezzi, I would prefer Connor whickham myself , Ive seen him a couple of times and there is something about him that makes you sit up and say he is going to be top class, Reminds me a little of a very young shearer before KK took him to Blackburn.

REDFORLIFE

 

 

 

 

 
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