Liverpool Banter Archive August 18 2016

18 Aug 2016 23:18:41
I know you hate money questions, but is Milner the highest paid left back in the world now haha?

19 Aug 2016 05:48:19
I'm sure Marcelo's on more.

19 Aug 2016 10:56:29
Would that make ballotelli highest paid boot washer then?

18 Aug 2016 22:40:41
Does anyone else think it's weird that Crystal Palace are willing to pay so much money for Benteke when they could probably sign Ings for a much smaller cost.

Don't get wrong - I like Ings, a lot. But it does look like he is available for transfer if a bid is made.

I just think he is a far more hard working player, and don't understand it. Anyway, maybe it's just me.

18 Aug 2016 22:49:45
Ings has been injured a whole year. Not many clubs would be willing to take a risk, unless it's a loan.
Benteke is pretty much ready to go and will get you goals if you play to his strengths.

18 Aug 2016 22:54:30
Not really Big Ben fits they stayle.

18 Aug 2016 23:15:56
Completely different players for a start and, if you're willing to play entirely to Benteke's strengths, he is a proven prolific goalscorer which Ings is not.

19 Aug 2016 07:45:52
Ings wouldn't be for sale anyway he HSS shown glimpse of being an able player and injury has stopped him establishing himself.

18 Aug 2016 22:09:51
Agreement reached with palace for benteke.

18 Aug 2016 20:23:31
If it is true Edds about Benteke being sold do you think Klopp will be buying other players, because if he doesn't buy anyone else he would not of spent anything this transfer window, wouldn't we be plus a few million this transfer as it stands if Benteke goes.

{Ed002's Note - Forget the money.}

18 Aug 2016 21:19:59
Why 'forget the money' ed002? It wasn't too long since you were explaining we were on thin ice regarding FFP - or has the new tv contract improved the situation to the point where it no longer matters? Thanks. A M.

{Ed002's Note - You need to forget the money or understand it.}

18 Aug 2016 21:49:11
Unless you pay stupid money on players that don't even really want to come then it's better for the club to keep the dosh in there pockets, Arsene Wenger is taking a lot of abuse because he isn't spending stupid money on players that really don't want to come to Arsenal, foreign clubs are aware of the tv money now in England now and are taking the piss, I feel sorry for Arsene for that reason. And for LFC, if Ther isn't a left-back out ther that's good enough for us to sign then don't sign anyone just for the sake of it, even Ed001 says Ther isn't a great deal of left-backs out ther, so if it's Milner or Moreno just support them 👍 rant over I think 🙊 lol.

18 Aug 2016 21:59:29
if we have broken even this window it makes a change considering the vast amounts that have been spent over the last few years so well done liverpool maybe even a few more to leave, balo, Alberto maybe markovic good business if all works out.

18 Aug 2016 22:56:20
If we have broken even this window then we have done really well considering the exciting players we have brought in. We haven't lost our main man like usual and got rid of the players deemed not needed. The squad looks healthy. Except for the position we're all craving to improve!

18 Aug 2016 23:02:30
Yes if you think 50million on Baloteli and Benteke 😣 joke, save the money LFC 👍 youth is the way forward #MarkoGrujic.

18 Aug 2016 23:12:55
I think the squad klopp has are good enough for at least top 4 and if he can have done that while turning a profit in the transfer market that's great business.

As we saw with gotze the lure of klopp alone isn't enough, players nowadays want CL football.

My point is with the profit this year and the cash from this season coming we will be able to compete financially and I don't think many players even at the top level will say no to klopp in the CL.

18 Aug 2016 16:57:06
Balotelli to United?

Really? The media are really putting that out?! AHAHA!

18 Aug 2016 17:08:43
Just to cover myself, I've no idea which paper this has come from, but it's on SSN at the minute.

"Top stories from the back pages of Wednesday's papers, as Mario Balotelli is linked with a sensational move to Manchester United. "

Is what it reads.

18 Aug 2016 17:31:47
If its an option, can someone drive him there? Ibra and Mario in same dressing room can surely only end in tears.

18 Aug 2016 19:10:36
Mourinho, Zlatan and Mario in the same dressing room 😂.

18 Aug 2016 20:54:32
why would he drop down a level .

18 Aug 2016 21:33:13
Wasn't they all together at inter?

17 Aug 2016 23:09:00
Hi eds, I'm starting my dissertation this year aiming to look into the barriers that exist within English football with regards to ethnic minorities attaining managerial positions and panel positions within the FA and other smaller footballing organisations. I was hoping, with your vast footballing knowledge, you would be able to point me in the direction of some relevant literature or other similar topics.

Any response would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - Send in an email address for me JC and I will deal with it when I get back to the office tomorrow.}

18 Aug 2016 20:04:45
Good choice! I did my dissertation on "discrimination within the accounting profession", very interesting researching it, and had so much material at the end I ended up writing a 30,000 word beezer!

Good luck with it JC, and if you remember in a years time, and once it's all submitted and marked, see if you can post a link to it because I for one would like to read it.

18 Aug 2016 14:54:38
Hi,

can anybody (Eds, Square Tomato? ) Update me on Gomez fitness?

I look forward to seeing the lad back on the field.

18 Aug 2016 16:00:15
I heard this morning that there was good news on four senior players, but Joe Gomez foot injury is not healing as fast as they thought, so I don't expect him back to full training soon .

18 Aug 2016 14:21:50
Hey ed001. What would you say the best signing we have made In the past 15 years is? Torres? Suarez? Klopp? Alonso? Mignolet? (Dalglish in the dugout may have had the potential. We really bugged that one up) .

Gotta say, it's early to say it, but I can't really explain how big of a refreshment having Klopp in the dugout is. Klopp for me is the biggest one.

Don't say Rodgers either Ed I know how much you miss him 😏.

{Ed001's Note - Xabi Alonso was genuinely world class and we never replaced him. Klopp will be the one who takes it in time.}

18 Aug 2016 14:54:54
Alonso is the best player to have played for Liverpool in the premier league era. Only just. Suarez, Fowler, Owen, Gerrard and Torres were all the best in their positions in world football at some point. Owen one of the only Premier league players to have won the Balon D'or.

Alonso plays one of the most thankless positions in the world though and does it better than any other player in modern football history. Very few players win the CL at 3 different clubs. He was the mainstay in the Spain midfield across their years of international dominance. A very special player. The one that got away for sure.

18 Aug 2016 14:55:12
I loved Alonso. Such a classy player. Great positional sense and his range of passing was too draw. I'm so pleased he's done well at Madrid and Bayern after leaving.

18 Aug 2016 15:17:53
Totally agree with Ed, Xavi was the best and worst transfer in the last 15 years ( Best In, Worst out )


I think Stewart will prove to be a very good transfer, especially for a free .

Klopp was actually an amazing transfer, especially when you consider how bad we are in general at conducting our transfer business.


When you look at the transfers over the last 15 years its not always great reading .


Kobi.

18 Aug 2016 16:32:06
Remember going to a Liverpool v Arsenal game under the lights a few years back. We won 1-0 Garcia with a last minute winner. anyways, Alonso was unreal that night got took off with 15 left and it was crazy the difference in the game. Never had a man within 10 yards of him had time and space constantly. sign of a world class players when he can create space in a packed pitch.

18 Aug 2016 17:34:35
It's Xabi, kobi.

- Krishna.

18 Aug 2016 18:20:52
Have to agree with Ed001 here. Alonso was probably the most naturally talented midfielder I've ever seen at LFC. Made the game look easy, a real class act. I was gutted when he left, and as pointed out above we've never quite filled his boots.

18 Aug 2016 19:37:12
Alonso is and probably always will be in my opinion the best player to ever play for Liverpool.

18 Aug 2016 19:57:20
Brave words Chubney.

18 Aug 2016 20:34:39
Love alonso he was superb but pretty sure he never won champions league at Bayern he did for us and Madrid.

18 Aug 2016 20:46:10
Agreed, Xabi for me.

18 Aug 2016 21:41:11
Alonso legend was cheap enough aswell absolute bargain Rafa't showed his stupidity by not building around him and trying to sell him


Personally Mash Alonso and Stevie

We're up there with the best in the world.

18 Aug 2016 22:45:12
My favourite ever player - an impeccable midfielder.

18 Aug 2016 22:13:04
MK Scouser.
I always look forward to your insightful and well worded comments.
I think Alonso may have only won it with 2 clubs. Was nt he suspended fir the Munich Final. Seedoef has won it with 3.

On another point, I remember trying to explain after one of Alonsos' many fantastic performances how Alonso was a better " Footballer" than Gerrard but for Liverpool Gerrard was the better player. I am not going to start a debate on this but I believe certain fans amongst you would understand were I was coming from.

Just like I was explaining to some of my more unfortunate everton friends how Williams is a better Defender than Stones but Stones is a better player.
On Sats game. No idea were Ron Keague is coming from saying Burnley will park the bus. He does realise this game got re arranged and is away from home or is Ron not aware of that massive new stand of ours.
Shame about The Beatles splitting up eh Ron!

18 Aug 2016 23:52:31
what a strange post mickey 🤔

You obviously don't think Burnley will park the bus because they're at home. We will find out on Saturday.

19 Aug 2016 00:02:14
I'd just like to point out for the benefit of mickeyboy Burnley's last 10 home games have yielded 7 clean sheets and 3 goals conceded.

18 Aug 2016 13:02:54
Hi Eds, Just saw where Jay Spearing played and scored last night, assume the payment issue must have been resolved. Good to see him getting on with his career.

18 Aug 2016 13:41:08
There should have been no payment issue. The club handled this quite disgracefully.

18 Aug 2016 16:03:48
Think he scored in the first League game also .

18 Aug 2016 12:33:10
Jurgen says Mane's shoulder injury is not too serious and he won't be out for long. Good news. With Milner, Ings and Gomez back and Karius a cppl of weeks away we are relatively injury-free or have i missed someone?

18 Aug 2016 12:39:31
Anything on Sturridge Annie?
Thanks for that news 👍.

18 Aug 2016 12:45:03
Ojo.

And Karius isn't back till October.

Tell then atleast Sturridge will get injuered :p.

18 Aug 2016 13:02:23
I got that from the first part of the presser. In the second part, Klopp addressed all the other injuries in the squad (so i'm guessing he ducked out halfway through to visit this site and read this post) . Cheers Jurgen.

18 Aug 2016 13:40:09
If notice we're usually top of the PhysioRoom table! :- (

18 Aug 2016 16:08:09
Annie, think Gomez will be out for another few weeks, maybe back same time as our new goalie Karius, who I rate highly . Hope Mane is back for the game next week, Sturridge can make a good impact on sat.

{Ed002's Note - That is not what the club has said.}

18 Aug 2016 22:42:07
Lucas, sakho, ojo, matip, sturridge, all recovering from injuries!

18 Aug 2016 08:58:51
Klopp is using Milner to solve a (hopefully) short term left back problem. But I wonder if in the back of Klopps mind does he also want to see if Milner can adapt to being a full back. He likes and trusts Milner but the way his midfield is evolving Milner might not get game time in midfield. However if he can play full back it wouldn't surprise me if Klopp hopes he could be a future right back.
Milner looks like a full back, we'll see if he can play there I guess.

18 Aug 2016 09:24:31
Klopp is probably thinking Joe Gomez as the first choice left back during the course of this season.

He's using millner and moreno as back up and doesn't want to bring in anyone that would affect joe gomezs growth.

Has to be that.

18 Aug 2016 09:40:32
I think Milner could have been/ could be a great fullback. Has many of the attributes you want in defense and attack from a full back. Not the ideal solution, maybe, but not ridiculous.

18 Aug 2016 09:47:27
From what Square Tomato has said though, Joe Gomez is regarded as a centre back and was told he would be 4th choice this year, albeit that was before Klavan signed.

18 Aug 2016 13:30:28
Gomez will not be a LB as that has already been explained. If he was seen as a LB, why did we try signing a true LB in Chilwell? That makes no sense. Gomez will struggle as a LB as he doesn`t have the tools to play there long term. The tools he has are for the CB position and that is where he should play and not be shoe-horned into a position where we all know he will struggle and eventually fail, longterm.

18 Aug 2016 14:58:20
Whilst I agree Gomez was bought as a CB and should play there, he did a good job at LB considering his age and experience. In that respect he could still develop into a LB. Players can switch positions it's not set in stone, he has the physical tools it's only his attacking prowess that is debatable for me. I'd rather him play and get game time than Moreno or Milner but that's just me :-)

18 Aug 2016 15:00:42
We just need to identify the right left back and buy him. If he's not available now then happy to wait. All the clubs will be upping their prices to us as they know we need one. There are stop gaps available until then.

18 Aug 2016 16:55:47
While we're at it why don't we throw Milner in goal too? Some of the tripe I read hahaha thanks.

18 Aug 2016 17:55:38
The right left back? My head is spinning!

18 Aug 2016 08:05:14
Morning redmen,

The football is coming thick and fast at the moment!
Here's a mid week loan update.

Ryan Kent played the full 90 and appears to of established himself in the starting 11 as Barnsley beat qpr 3-2 thanks to a last minute winner.

Danny ward helped Huddersfield to a 1-1 draw away to villa.
Villa had 15 shots in the game so by all accounts ward was kept busy.

Bogdan had a much quieter night against Birmingham with not much to do other than a booking and picking the ball out his net.
Wigan went on to salvage a 1-1 draw equalising in the last minute.

Two early goals helped Morecambe beat Portsmouth 2-0. Jack Dunn played for the first 60 minutes.

And Ryan Fulton kept his first clean sheet of the season helping chesterfield up to second as they beat Walsall 2-0.

And there's your lot.

18 Aug 2016 09:01:08
Spot on as ever, Carra!

18 Aug 2016 09:52:09
Bogdan conceded a penalty, saved it, but they scored from the rebound I believe.

18 Aug 2016 10:19:00
Ryan Kent was voted man of the match.

18 Aug 2016 12:18:15
Nice one Carra la.

18 Aug 2016 12:20:02
Bogdan did a Bogdan and completely took a player out in the box.

Saved the pen but couldn't get the rebound.

18 Aug 2016 12:21:04
I know that the guy who was covering Barnsley on Sky Sports Special was singing Kent's praises.