Liverpool Banter Archive October 17 2017

17 Oct 2017 22:11:40
Asked in the morning and Well how many think now we will batter spurs 6-0?
I never lie. It will happen.

{Ed025's Note - spurs are not maribor akshit...whoa back a bit there mate..

17 Oct 2017 22:20:05
They are not even Utd. They are way better than Utd.

17 Oct 2017 22:28:46
Tough game on Sunday. Hopefully they will turn up and play and not park a bus.

17 Oct 2017 22:30:37
Honestly, I've been saying for a few weeks now (since the Spartak draw) that we are going to hammer someone soon and after the United draw (which I was hoping would be the team we hammer) I said it'll be Spurs.

It seemed to be tonight instead, but I still believe we'll beat Spurs comfortably 3-1.

17 Oct 2017 22:32:46
I also think we'll beat them but not predicting this one, I think it'll be a close game, it certainly won;t be easy but i reckon we'll edge it.

17 Oct 2017 22:55:08
Me to corl only an going to go with1-3 aswell hopfully between us we can bring some positivity to this page over the next month pal.

18 Oct 2017 01:40:44
We usually do well against spurs. I would love us to hammer them as we are the better team and they need knocking off their high horse. they are lucky to have harry kane. without him they're average.

What a result! yeah, let's get rid of klopp! he doesn't know what he's doing! only getting us the biggest score we have ever had in the worlds elite football competition.

The confidence will be back. chuffed as you like. nice one ox, lovely taken goal. deadly. some of the best football I have ever watched. we are the second best team in the league. I think city are top at the moment. Utd came to anfield and played as if they were burnley, parking the bus, coz they know, if you play we will beat you, we are better than you. we are better than arsenal (4 0) better than spurs, better than Chelsea imo and better than utd. I can honestly see us pushing on know. we have a solid base to push on from and we have an almost fully fit squad. Lallana due back and that can only be good.

18 Oct 2017 02:23:35
I don’t know what is more fanciful you thinking we will score 6 or Spurs will score 0. I fancy us to get a result against them, 2-1 for me.

18 Oct 2017 04:31:34
It is simple we were bound to score. And since we are just like that nothing or everything.
Everything phase has started. Spurs will try to play against us. But unfortunately they don't have speed in that team. They will get battered.
So 6-0, it is that kind of season.

TBH I feel we aren't much far from city in terms of first team. Bad defenders, great attackers. Ours weren't scoring much but it was just matter of time.
Start ox in mid ahead of gini/ hendo and I think spurs are there for the taking.

18 Oct 2017 05:49:24
i agree with smeg head. 2 1, or 1 0. is it at home? if so, it could be 4 0? happened last year (or was it the year before 5 1?) They will try and play 100% and we will win. it is a matter of being clinical in front of goal. it is no exaggeration to say, if Liverpool took even 75% of their decent chances we would've won nearly every game scoring 5/ 6 goals. we have been creating the chances and that is why I have not lost faith. Newcastle was the only game this season that I thought we were poor, firmino makes a massive difference and the premier league has started to really take notice of the lad. he is clearly growing as a player and getting better all the time, he was immense today. I got a thumbs down for saying we are the 2nd best team in the league right now, SEVEN NIL. did you not watch that football? it was amazing, like watching Barcelona 3 years ago. I know they're not the strongest team in the group but they had a lot to do to get into the ucl proper. they aren't rubbish, although they were simply blown away.

Another clean sheet for the boys. 2 in a row now. I think Moreno is one of the best left backs in the league right now

last season our bench wasn't that strong and it showed. we were thin on first team quality. now we have hendo, the ox, Sturridge, solanke, gomes, migs and woodburn. with mane and Lallana to come! we need to turn this in to a winning streak. and by Christmas we can be firmly in the top four. oh and grujic and ings.

18 Oct 2017 06:21:29
Superred82
Without Kane Spurs are average? I suggest Liverpool's trophy haul over the last decade suggests they are nothing but average.

18 Oct 2017 06:27:51
Superred, My local non league club would have given Maribor a game, calm down son!

{Ed001's Note - they got through the qualifying rounds to make it into the Champions League proper, your local non-league club must be a bit special if this hyperbole is even close to being true.}

18 Oct 2017 07:02:04
Would be very happy with 3 points against Spurs. Not bothered about margin of victory.
Maribor were unbeaten at home in 14 matches including Spartak Moscow. They can't be that easy to beat 0-7.

18 Oct 2017 07:58:23
Ed001 My local non league club is special, Maribor aren't.

{Ed001's Note - no one said they are, but your comment is idiotic and you just make yourself seem a bit of a tool with it. Disrespectful tool at that. They did not qualify by being crap, so please stop disrespecting a side that have worked damn hard to get there. They have achieved far more than you ever will.}

18 Oct 2017 08:36:52
Well said Ed1.

18 Oct 2017 08:56:18
Georgie, I thought you were joking at the start but now it seems that you really believe your own hype. Your non-league team is not a spec on Maribor. They are paid professionals who have CL experience and got through THREE qualifying rounds to get here. Also, they drew with Spartak (who thumped Sevilla) and Sevilla only scored 3 goals against then in Sevilla. Pretty sure your team would have been soundly beaten by any of these teams by high double digits in goals. Oh, and what would LFC have done to your team on that performers? They may not be at our level but your level of disrespect for them, is callous and shameful.

18 Oct 2017 09:37:13
I think a draw away at spurs would be a good result, with Kane on fire at the moment, and how we didn't defend set pieces well last night again, got to be aware that its not going to be a walk in the park!

18 Oct 2017 10:14:45
Calm down Georgie? my team just won 7 0 mate. away from home in the European cup. Of course I'm confident of beating Spurs at home.

Yeah I agree with the eds, a bit disrespectful to Maribor mate, they have won their league 6 times in the last 7 years? sumin like that. a good little team who were 3 down before they had tied their laces, never had a chance because the boys were on form. the defence looked pretty good today too.

18 Oct 2017 11:39:24
our recent trophy haul has been about as spectacular as spur's has. But our total trophy haul wouldn't fit in three of spur's cabinets.

18 Oct 2017 14:56:56
Realize Spurs held Real Madrid yesterday? quite a different level to Maribor!

17 Oct 2017 22:00:52
Why is it whenever we win easily everyone talks about how poor the opposition is? Because when we are at it we stifle them so much they make error after error. Great performance tonight well done lads!

17 Oct 2017 22:25:23
Ings IMO, it is cos some of our fans wallow in so much self pity that they simply cannot bring themselves to saying that we did well. They'd rather make excuses for the opposition than give our boys whatever amount of credit they deserve just to satisfy such a defeatist attitude. Just my take.

17 Oct 2017 22:32:27
You can only beat what's in front of you so for that alone we can only praise the lads.

17 Oct 2017 22:32:56
They just weren't a very good team. I would doubt there is a poorer team in the competition. Let's not fool ourselves but what was impressive was our ability to put the chances away and not even give them a sniff. Let's still enjoy the win and looking at the table- the goal difference as well.

17 Oct 2017 22:37:49
I think it’s like a defence mechanism. If you constantly bitch and moan about how bad we are then when we lose it gives you a sense of satisfaction that you were right rather than having that gut wrenching feeling I get when we lose. When we do well it’s because the other team are poor just so they can justify their comments keeping their guard up in preparation for the next poor result. It’s quite sad really.

17 Oct 2017 22:51:48
Aoe that’s exactly what I mean. When we play well we make the opposition look bad because we don’t let them breathe. A 7-0 score line away in the Champions League vertually never happens. It’s our biggest away win in Europe ever! That alone should tell you what a great performance that was.

18 Oct 2017 00:29:39
I think any other team in the competition beats them comfortably tonight. I'm not making light of a thoroughly professional performance but I am looking at it objectively. Klopp picked a strong team, he made some nice substitutions thinking ahead and we didn't let our heads drop. On the other hand, we'll likely never face a team who will capitulate as badly as this one for the next decade or so.

{Ed001's Note - it was not as simple as that, if we had not scored early then it would have been different. That killed their gameplan and forced them to come out and play.}

18 Oct 2017 09:13:55
That's a fair point ed and I agree that maribor worked hard to qualify for the group stages so kudos to them and make no mistake that I'm delighted about the result. But really, I'm seeing everyone lose the run of themselves over a freak scoreline. I don't even think we got out of first gear. I think they just fell apart early on when we started well and let us play the ball around the park like a training match. Maybe I'm wrong but only can looked interested in busting a nut to cover when they dared to go into our half. For me it was the perfect match for a tough one against Spurs. Hopefully klopp makes the lads feel ten feet tall and they go out and put in a really strong performance and we start catching up.

18 Oct 2017 10:24:00
you're exactly right Ed01, spot on dude. It's that electric start we do under Klopp, I never realised what a devastating idea it is. it kills the opposition's game plan, bosh, now what? and like ed01 says, then they need to play, no time to dilly in the ucl

Coz we won 7 0 some people are assuming Maribor are rubbish. you don't get this far in the ucl by being rubbish, you don't get anywhere near it if you're rubbish. We done arsenal 4 0 and they are in the top echelon of pro football, could have EASILY been 7 0 too.

17 Oct 2017 21:44:06
Okey us battering Maribor, but Spartak battering Sevilla is insane.
We finish first in this group!

17 Oct 2017 22:33:13
There are no easy games in the CL anymore. Appoel took points off BVB, Spartak thumped Sevilla and Maribor took points off Spartak. The fact that we dominated all three of our our group rivals shows how good we actually are as a team.

17 Oct 2017 21:32:32
Hats off to the lads tonight.
Easy opponent?
Possibly, but you still have to beat them.
Delighted for AOC too!
This has been coming for weeks.
Gotta be happy with tonight's group results.

17 Oct 2017 21:52:03
Poor old Maribor were absolutely dreadful, but we were professional enough to finish them off. Never needed to get out of first gear. Delighted for ox. Milner will never have an easier game to play like he did, but fair dues to him. The only negative was wiji didn't do a great deal to impose himself on the game but I'm probably being a little harsh.

17 Oct 2017 22:07:02
There are lots of so called easy teams in the Champions League but not too many get beat 7-0 on their own ground. It was a superb result and a clean sheet.

17 Oct 2017 22:36:16
Spot on, Irish. There are no easy opponents in the CL, I'm afraid. This same Maribor team took points off Spartak, Spartak blasted Sevilla and Appoel took points off BVB. We smacked Maribor 7-0 on the road and could have been 10 easily. Hats off to the boys and Klopp!

17 Oct 2017 19:11:29
Question for Ed001 please if you have time mate.

I've always been a big fan of Henderson and think he's been crucial when fully fit, but have grown increasingly worried with his recent performances.

Do you still rate him as a player and do you think he merits a place in the side at the moment?

Cheers for your time.

{Ed001's Note - he is struggling for fitness and his form has dipped due to it. The injury is really hampering him, but he still can perform on a good day, like against Arsenal and he led the press against Man Utd. The problem is his current role restricts him from showing anything, it is very limited, so he is not really likely to show anything special anyway. If his injury continues to restrict him through the season, I expect the club to look to replace him in the summer to be honest.}

17 Oct 2017 19:27:47
Is that a hunch Ed or have you heard that to be the case?

{Ed001's Note - it is very early to say with certainty but I would have said if it was a hunch mate. I said expect because that is what I was informed. Sorry I should have made that clearer.}

17 Oct 2017 20:30:03
Thanks for reply Ed so looks like we may have a pretty different midfield next season.

17 Oct 2017 20:36:19
Big shame that if you are right Eds1 but it's looking that way. . On another point with no news on cans contract it looks like the Ox has been bought to replace him?

{Ed001's Note - Ox was bought as a squad filler.}

17 Oct 2017 21:19:39
Ed 01 I know you don't like talking money but that's a pretty expensive stocking filler.

17 Oct 2017 21:20:03
Squad filler. Bloody autocorrect.

17 Oct 2017 22:01:16
Such a number would have been expensive last year before the transfers went completely insane. With the ridiculous money bandied around last transfer window it's not as excessive imo. But we really shouldn't talk about finances cos that's when the trouble starts.

17 Oct 2017 23:25:30
With your information that Henderson may be sold should he continue to have struggles overcoming his injury do you think this could have any bearing on Cans future. I think he is our best bet in the deeper midfield role and was outstanding tonight. Could his mind be changed that more game time is available should Henderson be moved on?

Also what's going on with grujic?

Cheers.

17 Oct 2017 22:39:54
Feel for the lad, Ed. He's a true role model and shows how much you can achieve by being committed, eager to learn, hardworking and humble.

17 Oct 2017 19:06:39
Andy Robertson is clearly not wanted! I can't believe we bought him!

{Ed025's Note - i know we dont see him day in day out at training harry but what i have seen of him he looks very decent mate, and dare i say it better than anything else at the club at left back..

17 Oct 2017 19:14:16
Why buy a player who is not wanted by the manager. I can’t believe the club has learned nothing from previous transfer mess!
AOC looks like another VALUABLE squad player. He wants the central role and he doesn’t get a sniff in the middle. Milner starts.

17 Oct 2017 19:43:55
i really don't understand klopp its not just Robertson not getting a look in ward solanke grujic ain't had hardly any game time. and on tonight's team thought klopp would of left a CM out and dropped courtinho back and played sturridge or solanke up top. we've had 1 win in 8 so somethink ain't working and if we don't win tonight and sun against spurs klopp is going to be under pressure.

17 Oct 2017 21:08:49
I know that Klopp ain got to clue has he you lot make me laugh
Up the pool.

{Ed025's Note - yeah..right up the pool redan.. :)

17 Oct 2017 21:31:19
Haha very good Ed025 shame Rooney not as quick eh
UP THE POOL.

{Ed025's Note - it really is redan mate..

18 Oct 2017 07:17:08
Harry you do realise we are not even a quarter of the way through the season don't you?
So you've written off Robbo and the Ox after less than a quarter of a season.

This is a new low for you.

17 Oct 2017 10:57:38
who on here think we will blast spurs 6-0 maybe?

17 Oct 2017 11:38:57
Ron Keague?

17 Oct 2017 12:10:32
Nah I'm thinking 8-0.

17 Oct 2017 12:11:50
Not me, OP. Ron? DEFO!

17 Oct 2017 13:33:11
I'm going so I hope so! I'm usually pessimistic but I'm feeling optimistic for some reason. Give me a 3-1.

17 Oct 2017 13:26:44
We will need to blast Maribor first and then Spurs!

17 Oct 2017 13:26:44
We will need to blast Maribor first and then Spurs!

17 Oct 2017 18:28:11
We win tonight, Madrid give spurs a good hiding and we finish them off at the weekend ⚽️😝.

18 Oct 2017 06:24:42
I would be happy with another DRAW! Need the win though!

18 Oct 2017 07:18:46
😄 I think I said yesterday I was disappointed that so many had already written off the Spurs game!
I also said we'd win a tight game.

6-0 it is then 😎.

17 Oct 2017 08:08:19
Morning.
I was wondering, would it be possible for the fans of LFC to make a donation pot and raise x amount of millions and give it to the club for use to a transfer?
Not saying it would ever happen. Just wondering if it could.

17 Oct 2017 09:30:07
There is no shortage of money. £50 mill for Kieta, £40 mill for AOC. £40 mill for Salah. Turned down a potential £100 mill for Coutinho! You could thank Sky for pumping abundance of cash into the game!

17 Oct 2017 09:47:11
It wasn’t a suggestion it was more of a query as to wethere there was restrictions.
I know there is money to spend with the £70m for VVD still available.

17 Oct 2017 09:49:50
OP. money is not and will NEVER be the issue as we have the money to buy who we think will help the team We were prepared to pay 150m for both Keita and VVD in the summer YET you want us to make a donation for transfers? Keep your money cos the club does not need it, clearly.

17 Oct 2017 09:50:41
I couldn't think of anything more embarrassing for the club or as a fan than the fans directly raising money for transfers.

17 Oct 2017 10:11:56
It happens every week when we shell out a ridiculous amount for a ticket! 😡
If the club was being run responsibly then you could have a conversation, but at the moment, my perception is we are not being run responsibly.

17 Oct 2017 10:12:33
Your missing op point he's not asking to raise £££ just if it's possible to raise £££ by the fans to purchase a player.

17 Oct 2017 10:16:47
If we was going to raise money, it'd be for either charities or to the eds for running the websites, which is something id love to see, but to the club, nah, they get enough money from us from ticket sales alone never mind everything else.

17 Oct 2017 11:14:35
I don’t think it’s allowed, I’m sure I it read on here years ago about someone wanting to put a few million in to buy a player but it wasn’t allowed, sure it was in rafas time.

17 Oct 2017 14:07:44
You got it Reusch.
I’m not asking anyone to put money into a pot.
I’m asking if it could be done.

17 Oct 2017 15:01:46
When i was in year 8 I would have given my liverpool piggy bank to get us David Villa.

17 Oct 2017 16:01:00
This has reminded me of United London FC. Fans don't quite help out with transfers but they do pick the starting line up each week through the website.

Imagine if Liverpool picked the line up from this site every week! Ward and Solanke would play every game and Klavan would probably have been put down.

{Ed001's Note - I know the guy who started that, Mark, nice fella and he has worked incredibly hard to get that working.}

17 Oct 2017 16:26:34
Such a good way for an amateur team to build a fanbase! Must be a smart chap.

17 Oct 2017 17:35:39
I think fans should get the chance to raise money to sign a particular player which the majority wants Lfc to sign. We can conduct a poll throughout the season and then raise money.

{Ed025's Note - i think supporters pay enough to be honest Eka what with tickets, merchandise, travel etc, the owners have plenty of money and they will be the ones making the money if the club gets sold so its a no from me mate..

17 Oct 2017 17:56:32
You're right Ed25, I was just thinking about the possibilities. Us fans have no right to decide what the club officials must do with the money they earn from ticket sales and etc but, If we raise money for a transfer. We can directly ask the club to sign the player our fans want.

{Ed002's Note - it has happened before but certainly won’t be happening at Liverpool. Fantasy stuff I am afraid.}