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17 Oct 2015 22:38:56
Our club aside, many respects to Howard kendall. It took a special man to make them champions. Much respect to him and condolences to his family.
Mikey b.
18 Oct 2015 00:10:25
RIP, Howard Kendall!
18 Oct 2015 10:54:58
Met him a couple of times, lovely fella.
He didn't care if you were a red he treated all football fans with great friendliness and respect.
RIP Howard.
17 Oct 2015 20:19:37
Great first game in charge for klopp. Not a win but refreshing to see the high tempo high pressing back in our play. In a few games the team will be a different animal.
I don't think Moreno is going to be a long term lb for us. Didn't he start his career as a lw? Maybe he could be moved forward again? His pace is frightening and would cause real problems. Just a thought when flano comes back into the fold.
Migs had a decent game. Still hopeless at distributing the ball effectively. He should put the extra training into this side of his game. Shot stopping. he's great. Just needs confidence in himself and those in front of him.
Ed1 when is the podcast expected. ? Interested to see your views on the game.
Some sloppy passing at times but it was a drastic improvement after a week in charge.
{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen it and the recording didn't work, so I don't know what will happen with regard to that, as I believe Benny never got to see it as the bar he was in to watch it lost their signal.}
17 Oct 2015 21:09:04
I'm not sure where Flanagan will fit in since Klopp likes left footers at left back and vice versa his full backs at Dortmund were expected to put crosses into the box.
I think Moreno will do fine at left back. Marcel Schmelzer wasn't considered a particuarly good left back when Klopp came in and promoted him from the youth team, Moreno is young and can be taught. It's his first game under Klopp, maybe we should wait a good while.
{Ed023's Note - Maybe, he will play at RB? That is his natural position}
17 Oct 2015 22:40:38
I know, but I'm not sure how much of a shot he has at budging Clyne given that he's playing reasonably well and Flanagan has to both prove his fitness, play well and dislodge Clyne (and the cover at RB and Wisdom if/when he returns) all while his contract is about to run down at the end of the season
Love the lad mind, works so hard, Liverpool through and through but it just looks a bit hard for him at the moment.
18 Oct 2015 08:18:26
I would prefer Flangan over clyne at rb if he can regain his pre injuries form. I fear clyne may well be torn apart by mane next week.
{Ed001's Note - I thought it was just me who was not convinced by Clyne? I keep getting people telling me how great he is, but I still don't see it. I have only managed to see highlights of yesterday's game (though at least it is the last Spurs game I will have to miss now!!), but those highlights showed him getting dragged central a couple of times, leaving the whole of our right side wide open. He is constantly doing it, game after game, he needs to stop unless we start playing with a defensive winger in front of him.}
18 Oct 2015 09:15:31
Agree with ED01, Flanno is a better defender than Clyne. But an old fashioned full back similar to Ivanovic ( doesn't offer anything going forward )
Counter attacking needs a much offensive full back.
{Ed001's Note - seriously? Flanno was excellent supporting the attack and even got a goal and a couple of assists, while doing a very good defensive job. I think people have forgotten just how well he played for us.}
18 Oct 2015 09:22:39
I personally have more of a problem with Moreno. He got himself in some awful positions yesterday. Had he been up against somebody more disciplined and not the awful Lamella he would have been in trouble.
I'm just not convinced he is in any way defensively minded.
18 Oct 2015 09:23:53
Well he is on skirtel side of defence ed.
Let's face it, Clyne will get picked every day of the week over Flanagan.
{Ed001's Note - if Flanno gets back to his best then I would be shocked if he did not take back the first choice slot, either left or right side. He is better than either Clyne or Moreno have been.}
18 Oct 2015 09:38:35
Exactly my thoughts ed001. Really don't understand the clyne love in . I've started to lose count of the no of times this season we have been left far exposed on the right side. Just hope flanno gets back to full fitness
Harry Go and watch the second half of 20134l-14 season before making stupid commentslike that.
18 Oct 2015 10:05:35
Edd001 I always rated flannaghan highly but he has to get his fitness and form back. Once he does that, then he's back in the first team for me because he was outstanding when fit and firing. Clyne has been poor all season, has offered little forward and been poor dedefensively, he needs a massive push.
17 Oct 2015 20:14:40
For me, Lallana was MOTM. He worked incredibly hard and some of the turns he made were absolutely fantastic! Hopefully we'll see the Lallana of Southampton on a regular basis. I was very disappointed with Milner though and I thought he was a walking red card. He just needs to settle down a bit I think. Onwards and upwards. Without a doubt a much improved performance today which is an excellent sign of things to come.
17 Oct 2015 20:46:46
I thought Lallana played well too, but for me it was Can. Amazing what putting players in the correct position will do for their confidence and contribution to the game.
17 Oct 2015 21:17:36
Lallana really threw himself about, really impressed with his work rate.
I imagine Milner will lose his place to firmino and Can will lose his to hendo.
17 Oct 2015 21:26:40
MOTM for me was Minolet, kept us in the game.
17 Oct 2015 21:57:33
I thought Lallana worked hard but failed to really do too much for me, Looked better but personally still not up to scratch!
17 Oct 2015 22:07:46
For me it was Sakho. Excellent passing and he was a force to be reckoned with at the back. Skrtle Kept hesitating though, like he wanted to retreat back into the box and hide; awfully scared for a tough guy.
17 Oct 2015 22:25:44
It's so annoying when people say things like mignolet was motm because he kept us in the game. Why? Because if we'd had John ruddy in goal he'd of saved the same shots migs did his job as well as any average keeper would. The other half of his job is distribution and in that he kicked the ball into touch everytime he got it. At best his performance was 6/10.
17 Oct 2015 23:17:54
@kizz
True about Skrtel. Which is a shame, when he had agger or carra next to him he was hard and fearless. We used to use the Chuck Norris jokes to describe him. Maybe being considered a senior (a leader) doesn't fit with him. Which would explain him being overlooked as v/c.
For the first time this year I didn't really know who was going to be subbed, I thought everyone played well but I also believed that Sinclair and ibe should have seen more game time as the Spurs defenders tired, for a lot of the match origi looked a little stranded and needed a partner.
Milner played probably his best game, but still wasn't anywhere near the best on pitch. Allen looked lively and I was impressed when he came on. Migs saved our asses. Can and Lucas played well together. Lallana looks like finding his Southampton form, and the four at the back seemed to be slowly building their confidence.
MOTM. I would have given it to migs. But his poor distribution cancels out the work his hands were doing. So, I'd say either can or dembele.
18 Oct 2015 00:02:52
Sam I'm afraid the boys were watching a different game then us and a few others. Decent much improved performance today and klopp only had 3 days with half a squad and plplayers injured.
18 Oct 2015 00:14:26
Milner had a poor game and could have been sent off so don't know what game you were watching, Rooboy.
18 Oct 2015 01:22:47
I feel for Lallana.
He's so smooth on the ball he just glides.
There is no question over his technique or his work rate.
Where he fails is his lack of pace which leads to him needing to do too much with the ball. He beats a man and then the opponent is back on him before he can get free or play the final ball.
I don't know if he needs training to make better runs or what but his chronic lack of pace kills him. He's not suited to the English game really. He'd look better in Italy, Germany or Holland.
18 Oct 2015 02:11:49
SAKHO!
18 Oct 2015 05:54:40
I thought Lallana was poor again. But obviously if so many say he was good I must be wrong :/
Sacky and Migs best players for me.
18 Oct 2015 08:50:03
A couple of points. I don't think Lallana lacks pace anymore than say PC. He is never gone kill people with his pace alone but he hardly has a chronic lack of pace. I watched the game and it is silly to say all Migs clearances went straight out of play? Again his passes were inaccurate or general hoofs up field but he didn't scuff everything to the sidelines. We need a keeper like Reina who could provide pin point accurate passes which Migs cannot but let's be fair about things yeah?
18 Oct 2015 09:16:33
Sakho the coolest player on the pitch. Rest were just above average. PC was non existent in the first half.
18 Oct 2015 09:26:14
I thought PC had a great game in the sense he worked his socks off, maybe hung on the ball too long but he relished in pressing game. Sahko is huge, distributing from the back reminds be of Dagger. What was very obvious is that they passed the ball forward, and went forward, wow, who would of thought that possible? ! General improvement in my eyes, definitely short in the fitness dept though, but that will come.
Awesome seeing passion on the sidelines again. Watching the team develop is going to be great.
19 Oct 2015 13:20:51
@redohio
Sorry if I wasn't clear.
I meant that Milner played well for Milner. Which is still way off what a first team starter should be. Yet alone a v/c.
I think his return to the wing will suit him and us better. But I still think he is an extremely poor player, an insult to Stevies arm band, and should be a bench warmer. He has come to LFC and been treated like a god by Rodgers. He should never have been our v/c. I will get a klopp tattoo if he removes Milner from that arm band.
17 Oct 2015 19:54:41
What is it abou more than a few ex Liverpool players turned analysts these days that have nothing good to say about the team ? Owen had absolutely nothing positive in his comments during the full 90 mins today, that clown lawrenson had turned into a fergie worshiper in his time and Hansen was acid critical too, in fairness too souness he still refers to the club as We, a lot of these guys seem to be tinged with slight bitterness.
17 Oct 2015 20:21:30
Maybe they're not being sucked in with the mania surrounding the manager.
Wise decision I say, and we can all learn a lesson.
Maybe, as pundits, they're supposed to display an unbiased opinion, otherwise, they wouldn't earn a meg.
Either way, I wouldn't take too much notice as Souness is the only one who makes sense with his analysis.
Going off the Liverpool theme, I thought it was refreshing to listen to Glen Hoddle. Great player, great unbiased pundit and it's someone I would love to hear much more of. He's one of them you just have to listen too as the man oozes class.
17 Oct 2015 21:18:54
Glen oozes class? Lol.
17 Oct 2015 21:57:05
He lost the plot a wee bit did glen, was it him that said all disabled people where sinners in a previous life, listening to the voices in his head too much I'd say.
17 Oct 2015 22:10:05
Glen Hoddle knows his stuff.
17 Oct 2015 22:37:10
Maybe they should get Rodgers back Davey, so he can try and prove you were right all along about him. Don't get you lad, unwavering support for a complete fraud yet caution shown toward a genuine world class manager. None of us like to be wrong, but your best taking it on the chin and admit your worship of a false idol was misplaced and get on board the Jk train.
17 Oct 2015 22:41:39
Hahah glenn hoddle unbiased? What are you on mate?
17 Oct 2015 22:42:02
Yes glen knows his stuff mystic meg tells him.
17 Oct 2015 22:50:40
Didn't he say that Michael Owen was not a centre forward ? He really knows a lot !
17 Oct 2015 23:53:27
Michael Owen wasn't a centre forward, he was a central striker. Totally different thing. One relies on aggression, strength and physical dominance, the other on speed, ball skill and guile.
18 Oct 2015 00:19:37
Spot on, Waro! I know a couple of people on here who could do with at piece of advise.
18 Oct 2015 01:26:02
He said it himself, we must change from doubters to believers, not the other way round.
Personally I couldn't give a monkeys what pundits say. Cloughie had it right, they over analyse the game and spoil it for the rest of us. Waste of wage these pundits.
18 Oct 2015 01:44:08
I forget Hoddles exact comments today about a sweeper / keeper - something about in the future teams may play a keeper so there was 11 men on the ball. I bet Tony Pulis and Big Sam were licking their lips at the thought of 60 or 70 yard goals while the sweeper keeper is 40 yards out of his goal!
Being intelligent is just as much being knowledgeable as it is knowing when to keep quiet - not so easy being a commentator.
17 Oct 2015 19:34:37
A much better performance today. Hopefully a sign of things to come.
18 Oct 2015 00:20:22
Best football we've played since the City win in March.
18 Oct 2015 01:45:39
Redohio, I know we usually disagree and we're going to do it again. We worked hard for the first 20 mins but created little. We were careless at the back and have Migs to thank for the point.
I think we're going to get better but in no way was that the best we've played since City.
18 Oct 2015 06:18:11
Take off the Rodgers tinted glasses. But it is not much of an achievement as we have been dire since city.
18 Oct 2015 14:14:15
Your op is your op Muscat however, the desire, fight and determination to not only try to play good footie but to also fight and not get beat is already an improvement on the stale, clueless dross void of passion and determination the former manager was serving up, don't you think?
17 Oct 2015 18:05:30
Hi all. I was wondering what people made of Harry Redknapps comments about talented British managers not getting chances at top clubs. It seemed to me that he was implying that it was due to to many foreign managers being hired. I would think that the likes of himself, Allardyce, Bruce and a few other British managers who seem to go from one club to another with very little success are as much a hindrance to younger managers getting top jobs.
17 Oct 2015 18:20:56
Exactly, what chance has a young british coach got the chance too prove himself. When the same old faces that have failed time and time again e.g bruce, harry redknapp etc. get given jobs. Like ed01 said football is the only profession were idiots can walk into another job despite failing elsewere. England in general is sooo behind other countries in terms of coaching it has now become a joke.
17 Oct 2015 18:27:36
Someone give 'Arry a scouting job or something because I'm fed up of hearing his hypocritical nonsense.
Moyes was given the Man Utd job and made a complete hash of it. McLaren the England job and now the barcodes.
If British managers were better at their jobs they'd get a chance.
17 Oct 2015 18:31:20
Maybe Harry can start a club with all the money he has hidden away from fooling the govt. and give chances to British managers?
17 Oct 2015 18:50:09
Top flight management positions have gone the same way as the players.
How many premier league clubs buy players from lower leagues (or for that matter promote youth players) . How many LFC greats were either purchased from smaller clubs or came through our youth system? How many of our Great managers had zero experience? But if we went and brought a player from Championship many would be horrified (look how signing of Ings went down) .
It's the same with managers, I'm sure there are some good managers in lower divisions but they won't get a chance with top flight clubs. who will go abroad to find a "successful" manager. Pellegrini for example, I'm not convinced he's a good manager. but when you can spend money like he can he doesn't necessarily need to be that good, I'm sure if you put a good young English manager in charge of City they would do just as well.
Agree with Bruce. seems to get job after job but rarely does well. Rodgers was a young manager, didn't work out of course.
17 Oct 2015 18:54:37
I'm going to copy and paste the same thing so you boys understand
He was asked questions, he answered them. He's there to make money. Just like you have all been eager to hear snippets of geerards newest autobiography. He didn't make anything up though did he. We were all made aware of what was going on by Macca. Does that mean macca is a pr*ck because he let all us know Ancelotti was first choice? NO
Get over it.
17 Oct 2015 18:55:56
Harry is asked questions he answers them, he sells papers, column inches he's paid. Same as Carragher for the mail, savage for the mirror. This is all getting so boring now.
17 Oct 2015 19:01:16
Harry is now becoming boring.
17 Oct 2015 19:05:00
It makes me laugh. Doesn't matter what nationality you are, if your better than another choice your getting the job.
17 Oct 2015 19:08:50
Here's a little snippet from some articles I found
there are ''2,769 English coaches holding Uefa's B, A and Pro badges, its top qualifications. Spain has produced 23,995, Italy 29,420, Germany 34,970 and France 17,588.''
. ''The basic FA Level 1 course is £150, while Level 2 rises to £340. Then comes a steep increase. The standard cost of a UEFA "B" License -- a prerequisite to work at a professional club's academy -- is £990, and it can cost as much as £2,450. In Germany, the cost is €430; in Spain it is €1,100.''
''if you're white and actually want to be a coach you're then insulted by the fact you're told to pay the full price, but an ethnic minority get a 33% discount . ''
17 Oct 2015 19:37:17
I don't know what he has said in his paper column or indeed if he still has one as I wouldn't buy that newspaper but today on the BT panel he wasn't asked a question. The panel were simply talking about pressing and it seemed to irritate him and he made the foreign managers comment. He just seemed to not want to be there today.
17 Oct 2015 17:59:23
No goalkeeper has kept more clean sheets in the Premier League in 2015 than Liverpool's Simon Mignolet (13)
Wow shocking stat.
17 Oct 2015 18:14:49
It is interesting when people are so quick to blast mignolet. I don't think he's nearly as bad as most people make him out to be. Thought he was excellent today if I'm honest.
I do realize his distribution could be better, but if he keeps the ball out of the net, then I'm happy.
17 Oct 2015 18:18:54
not really, we did play five at back for a very long time.
17 Oct 2015 18:49:06
Migs biggest problem is himself. You need to be a strong, confident character to be a top keeper. He just doubts himself too much and that causes him to hesitate and you just can't afford to do that. Shot stopping is more instinctive and it's no coincidence that it's that he's good at. Give him time to think and he will invariably cock it up.
17 Oct 2015 18:32:24
Not passing it around the back for the sake of it, will help Mignolet. I thought he did very well today.
17 Oct 2015 19:06:02
I always thought he looked very good at Sunderland. I don't like blaming Rodgers for everything but in Mignolets case I really don't think he has been helped by having to play the ball around the back line so much.
17 Oct 2015 19:09:07
I always thought he looked very good at Sunderland. He's obviously nowhere near as good as Pepe with his feet yet since he came to us he has been expected to play it around his back line. How many times has this led to problems? Hopefully now he won't be asked to do this and can build up his confidence by doing what he's good at.
17 Oct 2015 20:49:00
Kept the most clean sheets? Yet according to Ed1 he is useless.
{Ed001's Note - and I stand by that, we played with every man behind the ball for the entirety of 2015, which is why we barely scored either. Certainly it is very little to do with him. It would be a bit like you taking credit for this site getting lots of posts, when you are more of a hindrance than a help ;)
17 Oct 2015 21:12:38
I think he is a decent shot shopper nothing special, what infuriates me is that he feels the need to take a touch every time before kicking it back out.
I liked him a bit more today, I think Klopp asked him to come off his line and sweep up a little bit more, which he almost made a hash of twice but it came off.
17 Oct 2015 22:02:01
if anyone is going to judge a keeper based just on statistics, then you would be happy to have fabianski as our number one as according to STATISTICS he was the best keeper in the premier league last season!
This just shows judging a keeper based solely on statistics is just laughable. Anyone with a pair of eyes can clearly see migs is not up to scratch.
18 Oct 2015 00:24:14
Ed01 just smacked down who ironically, were BR apologists.
18 Oct 2015 01:30:08
Don't know if you're referring to me Ohio but I've said for a while that Ed001 is spot on about Migs.
It's why I find that stat shocking.
18 Oct 2015 01:38:41
This for me is quite easy - list all the strengths a top goal keeper should have then bench mark Mignolet against that - shop stopping alone does not make you a top keeper.
Nothing against the guy he's just not good enough. rewind the game today - how many headers / balls did we win when he either had time and kicked it forward or was under a little pressure and was forced to kick it.
17 Oct 2015 17:46:24
Did lallana give klopp an strangely affectionate hug when he came off or was he just dead in the legs and used klopp for support haha. I hope the latter.
17 Oct 2015 19:10:38
Yes I commented on that when I saw it!
17 Oct 2015 16:57:54
Well we didn't get the transformation we were all hoping for but that's not surprising given Klopp's only had three days with the full squad.
A useful run-out for Klopp to see how his players handle a competitive game but I bet he wishes he didn't have a mid-week game, a full week of training would really help him make his mark.
A lot of graft today but very little composure. Hopefully Sturridge will be back against Southampton because poor Origi is struggling at the moment.
17 Oct 2015 17:11:53
It was a bit toothless really, but hopefully they will turn it around.
17 Oct 2015 17:34:11
My reflection:
It was a good point today, Spurs had a great result against City and were on a high.
Migs made some good saves today, he still has a lot to do to cement a longterm place in the first team.
Defence were OK, not great. Sakho had a good game.
Left back remains a weakness, must be nearly 30 years since we had a decent one.
Can and Lucas did well together.
Milner just doesn't have the vision needed. Much as I hailed his signing, I'd rather have Texeira there, he has great vision.
Origi did OK up top, shame about Sturridge, he would have bagged a goal or 2 today.
Overall the most pleasing thing was the desire and dynamism today. For so long we have looked like lost sheep with no cohesive movement or penetration. A world away from 2013/14.
We'll be much better when Sturridge, Ings and Firmino are back.
17 Oct 2015 17:45:45
Thought migs was our best player today.
17 Oct 2015 18:06:05
Were you expecting us to transform into an elephant? If that is the transformation you were expecting, you are right, we didn't get it.
Aside from the obvious increase in work rate, and pressing at different stages, we looked stronger defensively and there were subtle changes that I thought worked well. There was no passing it around the back for the sake of it and this worked to our advantage. Milner tucking in when the play is in the opposite flank, and Can tucking in likewise, was interesting. Another notable point was that when defending, onus is put on individual defenders, and this plays to the advantage of Sakho, Moreno and Clyne and NOT Skrtel, who lost his man (Kane) on multiple occasions. When attacking, when the ball is won back through pressing, the responsibility is on the 3 behind the striker to counter quickly, and this is where we need to work on.
17 Oct 2015 18:07:29
Fabio aurelio was brilliant just injury prone and john arne riise?
17 Oct 2015 18:17:26
Aurelio as you point out had injury problems
Riise was not a good defender IMO.
17 Oct 2015 18:55:05
Klopp did say that he would sure us up at the back and go from there. I think today showed he knows what he's doing. We were much more compact and aggressive in defence. It seems like ages since I've applauded a hard tackle from one of our players but it was there in abundance today. I think we were transformed in that way with some good one touch quick passing particularly early on. I was impressed considering the injuries to attacking players and the fact he's only had 3 days to prepare.
17 Oct 2015 19:08:26
Ron is on the money bar Moreno who I thought did well. I just love the way the players fought for each other and the mentality is now changing which is good to say. Can had the best game I've ever seen him play for LFC. He was everywhere and will thrive under Klopp's high press system. All in all, it was a good point on the road vs a them that had just put four past City. Only the OP can tell you where Klopp was supposed to get this transformation he was looking for.
17 Oct 2015 19:13:51
Sting Inge was a great left back! Have a look at the amount of assists he gave to Fowler.
17 Oct 2015 19:41:10
Steve finnan was solid at the back too, just did his job, no drama.
17 Oct 2015 20:02:48
Finnan was a right back bro.
17 Oct 2015 21:16:16
Sorry dude, on the cans ! 😳.
17 Oct 2015 21:23:58
Sorry dude, am on the ale.
17 Oct 2015 21:43:45
Replied to the post twice, an Irishman on a Saturday nite, beer in each hand, expect nothing less ! 🍀.
18 Oct 2015 01:30:52
Legend Eamo 😄.
17 Oct 2015 16:36:25
Its refreshing that we have a manager who is willing to play the 4th choice striker if necessary. If it was Rodgers I'm pretty sure we'd have had coutinho or lallana as the 'false 9'
17 Oct 2015 16:56:11
I'd like to think we've moved on from having digs at Rodgers.
He's gone, move on.
17 Oct 2015 18:11:43
It seemed more like a highlighting the refreshing change than a dig at BR.
17 Oct 2015 18:25:31
seriously mate get over Rodgers!
17 Oct 2015 19:11:05
It was indeed refreshing to see Klopp give Origi a chance as well and comparing BR to Klopp is not a dig, it is a comparison.
17 Oct 2015 19:16:46
Ye was more trying to point out a positive about todays game that I hadn't noticed anyway had mentioned, than have a further dig at Rodgers . I agree with the moving on tho guys.
17 Oct 2015 15:58:39
It was always going to be a difficult game, new manager and tactics with too little time to implement followed by players getting injured in the run up to the game.
I thought we did OK; considering its a clean sheet and Spurs have the fewest goals against this season.
Lucas and Sakho played very well; Can did well. I felt a little sorry for Origi; he didn't have much to go on but run until the end; his decision making needs to improve but an OK performance away from home.
I liked the way Klopp embraced the players - it looked like Sinclair was going to come on - all be it for 1 minute - let's hope he gets on the pitch on Thursday (like a couple of others) .
17 Oct 2015 17:04:51
Didn't see the game, was can midfield? Was Milner right or central?
17 Oct 2015 18:02:23
Can CM, Milner depending on when we had the ball was CM right (of 3) or RM.
17 Oct 2015 18:07:18
Milner was everywhere and nowhere.
17 Oct 2015 18:18:35
I never realised how poor Milners passing is until he signed.
Absolute rubbish.
17 Oct 2015 19:14:09
Milner and Couts had poor games. He is not suited for the high press and his age showed today as the younger players were hunting the opposition like hounds while Milner was two steps behind. I always knew he wouldn't do the trick. Well, I guess the TC will have to take the blame for his arrival, right?
17 Oct 2015 15:57:49
What a difference having a class and experienced manager makes.
Play players in their natural position, have a game plan covering attack and defence and inspire the team to work hard.
I love his positivity, honesty and obvious knowledge about the game and how he wants the team to play.
I believe and I can't wait to experience Anfield again.
Sakho was immense today and I cannot understand for the life of me why he was ignored for so long by the previous regime.
17 Oct 2015 16:45:51
A little rose-tinted I think, but people always see what they want to see.
17 Oct 2015 19:18:51
Woah! Muscatred, are you kidding lad or what, people only see what they want to see, pot kettle and black come screaming out. Your a walking contradiction fella.
17 Oct 2015 19:19:23
What's rose-tinted about that, Muscat? Klopp has instilled a spirit of accountability and hardwork into the team and one could see that from the first whistle. Spurs where there for the taking had we had our strikers fit. Don't know if you're still sore about your boy being sacked but Klopp is here and even tho he didn't win today, I have hope that at least, the players will always know what they're doing because Klopp unlike the former manager, had no clue what he was doing. Can is an example of this as he played in his natural position and Spurs had no answer for him.
17 Oct 2015 19:46:52
Mucus or whatever you are called, support the new manager and team and get over yourself. The performance from key players previously ignored or played out of position was clear for all to see today.
17 Oct 2015 21:43:22
Come on Muscat, you could clearly see today we were better organised and people looked more confident being played in the right position and knowing exactly what is needed of them.
18 Oct 2015 01:53:50
Only just seen these responses so this reply probably won't be seen. We were OK today but not a lot more. Yes we pressed hard in the first 25 minutes but it got us nowhere.
We created one good chance all game and that was a result f a corner not the early pressing. We were careless in defence and Migs saved us three times.
This is not an attack on Klopp, I'm glad we've got him and I expect things to get better but if we'd played like that and Rodgers was still in charge you guys would be going mental right now.
17 Oct 2015 15:40:11
I think this is the first time this season I have come on here after a game and most of the posts are on the banter page and the others page is dead. After a 0-0 draw as well. Lol.
17 Oct 2015 15:31:42
Quietly impressed today.
Learned a few things:
We are not fit enough.
Clyne impresses me more and more.
Can still gives the ball away too easily and worries me at times.
Milner will never do it on the right (although personally I thought he would) .
Sakho is learning in every game, and is a cracking player, looking more confident and composed as the season progresses.
Lucas was correct to stay.
Llalana will thrive under the managers tactics.
Moreno isn't strong enough to defend.
Overall, it's about the fitness which has been lacking all season, and it doesn't take the inception of the reign of a new manager to figure that.
17 Oct 2015 16:44:34
A bit pessimistic there Davey - Can much better in midfield. Moreno Ok and Sakho always been good.
17 Oct 2015 19:21:12
Don't know what game u were watching, Davey but Can was a beast today. Funny that once he played in his right position, he excelled. I wonder why that was?
17 Oct 2015 21:46:46
Just being on the pitch helped redohio, the last guy thought he wasn't good enough.
18 Oct 2015 01:28:38
Thank a God, the last guy was sacked, then because he was capable of making good players look bad then blames them when they don't play well.
17 Oct 2015 15:31:22
So happy to see the positivity on the site after a game! What a game that was! Could not take my eyes off it. Lallana's work rate was impressive, sakho was immense. We were lucky in places but there seemed to be a new willingness to throw everything on the line to stop the shots and passes.
All in all I'm relatively happy with the result but hoping for a bit more of a goal threat on Thursday. What did you all think?
17 Oct 2015 15:45:41
I felt the team seemed more confident in their play. A lot players pulling of little flicks and turns was refreshing. First twenty we played really really well and hopefully that's a sign of things to come. Another plus was we defended well and players were putting themselves in to block shots. Have to say Mignolet did well and hopefully Klopp can get more from him over the next few weeks.
Have to remember we had 8 first team players out three of them this week so not best preparation for the manager. All in all was a good result
Clean sheet.
Good defending.
Good work ethic.
Improved passing and movement.
Players look more confident.
17 Oct 2015 19:23:20
Spot on, Jones! The boys fought hard, rode their luck a bit but did well. Had we had our three first choice strikers, we would have beaten Spurs today. But Origi did his best and never stopped running. Bravo to the boys!
17 Oct 2015 15:22:51
Ed fellow reds, good start for klopp, a lot of work to do but promising signs . We need a striker back pretty quick . but the boys did well . would of took a point before the game all day. One other point I would like to make is . RIP HOWARD KENDALL. GREAT MANAGER FOR BLUENOSES .
17 Oct 2015 15:16:22
A mention for Origi also, held the ball up well, showed glimpses of skill and strength and worked hard, did well for his debut start.
17 Oct 2015 15:13:33
Decent performance, both teams cancelling each other out in the end.
Overall defended well as a unit, individual mistakes need to be rectified though (old news), whether that is down to change of tactics or individual error we shall see.
Can see the pressing game develop already after really no time with the players, stand out performers for me were Sakho, Lallana and Lucas.
Onwards and upwards!
17 Oct 2015 15:13:32
Think i saw Klopp give Ibe one of those slaps Grosskreutz was on about.
17 Oct 2015 15:12:48
Just said on LFC TV that the team ran further than any side this season.
That is impressive and shows already the effect Jurgen is going to have on the side.
We should just enjoy the development this season and then watch us go once Kurgen has had a pre-season and a summer transfer window to work with.
We believe!
17 Oct 2015 15:07:20
Well that was so much more than I think a lot of people expected. For the first time in a long long time I didn't want the game to finish, looked at the clock when it was at 80 minutes and was disappointed there was only 10 odd minutes left. Before anyone says it no it wasn't perfect and yes there are a lot of areas where we will improve but I really don't feel like focusing on any negativity and am full of hope and positivity for the future. Maybe we deserved the win but if that's what a nil all draw looks like then that's got to be a good thing, can you all imagine now what it's going to be like in 12 months time? Now I'm going to hopefully watch the bitters spank the mancs, got to love being able to watch every game live.
Full of hope and wonder, sugar and spice and all things nice, thank you Mr Klopp, thank you to our players who looked like they will live and die for our wonderful club.
I Believe, YNWA.
17 Oct 2015 15:06:15
I don;t normally come on straight after a game and post.
I think we were too eager to press in the first 20 at times, instead of waiting for the triggers. Clearly Klopps wants us to press from throwins where control of the ball is unsteady, every time spurs took a throwin for 10 seconds we pressured. It was good to see.
Mignolet looked more decisive. Still think he will go though.
He put Milner out wide right and had Can and Lucas in the centre and we looked better for it.
It was good to see Skrtel not drop so deep against the strikers coming at him, though clearly still sturggles in communication.
Over all I was impressed given the somewhat weakened team available to him. to get a 0-0 after conceding in 8 seccussive matches I will look as a big positive.
Being critical one negative was Origi, who doesn't eem to press and lacked an understanding with Couts and Lallana at times which may come, and probably should have been subbed for Sinclair when he looked gone after 75 minutes
Pleased over all though.
{Ed001's Note - Bilic is another that goes on about throw ins.}
17 Oct 2015 15:31:57
Was just something thought I was picking up on ed seemed to me like the first 10 seconds of a spurs throwin we tried trapping them. Then if it didn't work we went into formation. I understand the reason for it as throwins can be difficult to control. though Spurs clearly just go used to it and threw it long to discourage the press in the second half.
{Ed001's Note - if you get a chance to listen to Bilic talk about a game, he goes on and on about the importance of controlling throw ins. So it is interesting to see we also tried to pressure those, it is something I have always thought was obvious, being as how a throw in very rarely gets thrown directly to someone's feet with a perfect weight to play quickly.}
17 Oct 2015 15:46:10
I'll have a look out for that with Bilic, it seems a good time to pressure like you say, with certain triggers you're looking for like poor control or a slow pass, no throwins go to feet. Seems the ideal times to win back possession.
17 Oct 2015 19:27:41
That's what a team coached by a competent manager looks like.
17 Oct 2015 15:04:32
Tough game and Spurs the better side over all but I was really impressed with the desire and work rate throughout our team. Also not sure who would get MOTM out of Sakho, Can, Migs or Lucas but Clyne and Origi put in a great shift too. A lot to be positive about after that game - it reminded me a bit of the impetus we had when Dalglish first took the reins a few years ago.
17 Oct 2015 15:20:40
Don't let BT'S biased commentary cloud your views, we were the better of two average teams on the day, we were injury hit and the onus was on spurs yet we were the team driving forward pushing to win the game, they were happy with sporadic breakaways trying to nick a 1-0. I thought we played OK considering the injurys and klopps tactical changes in play. Satisfactory debut game for king klopp.
17 Oct 2015 16:11:49
Who is BT ? Spurs had better chances, more possession but couldn't convert. We were markedly improved from previous games and defended well. I can only remember a couple of shots on target from us but our overall performance was decent.
17 Oct 2015 17:09:03
BT sport maybe?
17 Oct 2015 14:58:35
Ok so I came out an idiot with my insistence Sturridge would play - I was told it was just a little knock but appernatly he didn't pass a late fitness test. Knee problem. Apologies for doubting you guys. I will eat my humble pie quietly.
On a different note I just think these injuries are disasterous. Surely in this day and age with all money and level of science put into training there must be ways and measures to minimise it. Four players in one week and all in training, not even on games.
We need either Sturridge or Benteke fit to do anything going forward. Origi is a nice guy but at this stage of his career he is not good enough.
{Ed001's Note - good on you for apologising though, nice one.}
17 Oct 2015 15:30:31
These injuries our lads are suffering from must be having a disastrous effect on them as individuals but also the other players and staff. Some can be down to bad luck, and plain coincidence that there happening so closely together but surely there has to be ways to prevent and minimise how bad and how often they are happening. But surely the staff or previous staff are well informed enough and smart enough to know that Sturridge has had a horrific 12 months and has finally got close to being fully fit and functioning again that to start throwing him in and giving full games or close enough too it, it makes no difference, is only going to end badly. He needed to be eased back into games, first as a sub and not for 1 game but for 4-5 games then you start him, but even then you have an idea that 60 odd minutes for a few games is the way to go about it. He needed time and patience to come back and get "match fit" before the weight of the world was put upon his shoulders, but that was done before the season started so the player himself would have been thinking he has no choice but to come straight back and be their hero and paper over the cracks that led to them getting boot. We all wanted Dancing Danny back ASAP but not at the risk of losing him all over again, I was and am more than happy to let the lad come back slowly and gain fitness and more importantly confidence in his body that it's not going to break down on him every time he kicks a ball.
But the future is bright and our players will come back, I'm sure when they do it will be with an intensity, determination and a new found enthusiasm that for once the old saying of an injured playing coming back is like a new signing will actually be true and have that very effect on the players, the fans and the management team.
Damn mancs are already 2 nil up over our neighbours, : (
I Believe, YNWA.
17 Oct 2015 14:53:59
in my humble opinion klopp got this tacticlly right . lucas was superb today unlike to be given yellow in 91st minute as it was not even a foul. sakho what a player he is, he will be klopp favourite. origi was isolated but for a young player did very well. we missed firmino big time in this game. skrtel was not convincing. can was geting better as game went on but still has a lot to learn to be a special cm. milner was a bit raw but good engine. cou and lallana were lil bit lost out there and migs done superb today so pleased with him. with big ben back and firmino we will be one dimesion up.
17 Oct 2015 14:46:27
positives are I think we seen Klopps work in the first 20. After that the players were tired and did work hard but the quailty going forward has to and will improvE in time. I'm surprised texeria didn't get a run out and Ibe came on late but I think klopp was happy with a draw. Players have to improve their decision making going forward that was poor today.
Skrtl is a big big problem, you cannot have one player undoing all the good work the team does. Toure has to come in sooner or later.
Draw I'm happy enough witH.
When we get sturridge, henderson and firminho back we could be top class.
17 Oct 2015 14:55:32
I think we saw more quality in Ibe in 5 mins than the whole of this season combined.
I thought origi put in a good shift as well, it was clear the team wasn't set up for him today to score and I thought he did well especially considering it was his first start as well.
Lallana seemed really up for it as well.
17 Oct 2015 14:56:05
Sorry Al but you must be having a laugh. Toure is worse than Skirtle.
17 Oct 2015 15:07:30
Red, I beg to differ. Skittles is our work defender at the club. Toure atleast communicates and stays on his feet.
17 Oct 2015 15:41:29
Red I'm not so sure, I think with Toure in next to Sakho and Clyne on his right he would do quite a good job and would also be much better at set pieces and corners in either box that I think it is at the very least giving it 5 games to see how it goes. If it dosnt work so be it but they have to try something, whether that's Toure or even Lovren it has to be explored.
I Believe, YNWA.
17 Oct 2015 17:11:08
I've wondered about toure too, he uses his experience more and can't be any slower than him. He's not even that old for a centre back.
17 Oct 2015 19:30:55
Skrtel is our worst CB, hands down. Lovren is close to that level but with Klopp, he may improve.
17 Oct 2015 14:45:27
Considering Spurs ripped City a new one last time out, I am chuffed with that point.
We actually looked half decent in periods, not looking to go backwards, comfortable in possession on the most part.
Skrtel is a big issue imo, most of Spurs chances were as a result of him playing a hospital pass or not communicating.
Shame we lost Sturridge, we would have nicked that I think with him up top! Good start from Klopp.
17 Oct 2015 14:42:23
All in all a good result away at spurs, the team worked there socks off.
Also to say we where playing with our 4th choice striker. Taking nothing away from origi though who I thought played well.
17 Oct 2015 14:53:03
Absolutely! Origi worked very hard. I'd have taken a draw all day long after Studge was ruled out.
17 Oct 2015 17:19:51
I thought I heard Klopp at one point in the second half scream at origi "divok that was your ball! " when he didn't really press quick enough. Not sure if I heard right, could be making it up. I wasn't overly impressed with Origi if I'm honest, that is to say I think/hope there is an awful lot more to come from him as he appears to have the natural attributes to do well, quick, tall with good aerial threat. Perhaps he tired but I'm not sure he's up to leading the line just yet. I think Klopp will at least shake him up a bit and "wake" him up to what he needs to do to reach the very top where as I think different managers might have just let him away with it.
17 Oct 2015 14:39:33
Good point, good performance, well played boys, very impressed in the change of performance and attitude of the team.
Onwards and upwards.
17 Oct 2015 14:38:57
Overall that was not too bad. Clean sheet for first time in 8 games. Back 4 were impressive apart of skrtel who needs replacing. Sakho was MOM for us.
17 Oct 2015 16:47:48
Still miss Dagger at the back.
17 Oct 2015 14:33:17
Lallana ran his heart out. He looked knackered coming off. Good to see.
17 Oct 2015 14:36:59
Was poor though mate, didn't offer enough going forward. Has to offer more and put his boot through the ball.
17 Oct 2015 14:51:40
Was impressed by Llalana but Can was man of the match for me, he covered so much ground today and really proved me wrong, I suspected he might struggle with the pressing system, but he thrived. Lucas also looked better than expected in the system, pushed higher up the field than I've seen him before and it really worked.
Only downside for me was lack of pace in the attacking mids with Lllalana, Coutinho and Milner playing well but struggling to really threaten the defence when they ran at them (noticeably different when Ibe had a little cameo), but overall was really happy with the performance. The whole team looked comfortable in their positions, team worked hard for each other and was entertaining football.
Can't wait to have Hendo, Sturridge, Firmino, Benteke back, think we'll look a lot more dangerous.
17 Oct 2015 14:54:18
And he probably will when we get some players back. Hendo is a huge loss at the minute.
17 Oct 2015 14:27:11
Massively impressed by Can and his work rate. Looks so much better playing in his correct position, strange that hey? !
17 Oct 2015 14:40:32
What do you mean correct position. he played midfield today!
17 Oct 2015 19:33:27
He played CB under BR and was terrible at it. Just FYI, Lavers.
17 Oct 2015 14:24:24
We have give the ball away easy at times but I haven't seen this much fight and determination from a liverpool side in a long time. Exciting times ahead.
17 Oct 2015 14:06:12
Lads,
I know a few have said it already but damn that was a great first half compared to recent performances. Not perfect by any means and a few chances have been wasted or not taken advantage off. But Klopp has been here a week and is having an immediate impact, more so than I thought was possible. Seriously the way we dominated Spurs for the first 30 with the pressure, ball movement, player movement, intensity of runs etc was way beyond what I thought would be possible so soon. We might very well be witnessing the awakening of a sleeping giant.
I BELIEVE, I no longer doubt, I BELIVE, I don't question The Normal one, I BELIEVE.
Do you?
I BELIEVE. YNWA.
17 Oct 2015 13:49:59
Hi ed001, looked through some of the posts earlier, see people questioning the site because of my sturridge post, makes me think why bother, people see the name at the bottom of the post and send you abusive replys which you have to sift through then answer or delete, I'll save you the grief in future mate, you have enough BS to wade through without me adding to your stress levels, haha.
{Ed001's Note - don't worry about it mate, your info is good and they just look like fools afterwards.}
17 Oct 2015 14:41:25
Waro, its always good to be given info that a lot of us aren't privy to so i think i speak for the majority when i say it is much appreciated and please continue to do so.
17 Oct 2015 14:46:30
Warm mate, don't worry what other posters say, as Ed001 said, your info is good, so keep it coming as and when you can.
17 Oct 2015 14:59:46
Waro you are your own worst enemy at times mate.
You get some great info and post up some real gems then let yourself down with some right real garbage about the owners etc.
see if you can stay positive for a bit.
17 Oct 2015 15:30:34
So post what I know Mikey, but don't have an opinion different to your own. It's an idea, but not one I will persue. Last time I checked we weren't living in Berlin circa 1941.
17 Oct 2015 21:40:01
Not are we living in North Korea or China or the Soviet Union pre 1990, capitalism is the norm get over it ;)
17 Oct 2015 13:45:06
I know we say this every game but the BT commentary team is pants.
17 Oct 2015 13:54:44
Mate I'm watching it in oz on fox sports so I'm not sure who's commentary team we listen too but nearly every time we have gone forward they have continually named the wrong players ie: couthino has ball and pass's to origi, they say it's lallana. For the first time in a long time our players are very close to playing their perfect positions and the commentary team has no idea who anyone is.
17 Oct 2015 14:48:00
Harry Redknapp was the worst today, he seems so bitter he's never had one of the top jobs.
17 Oct 2015 13:38:03
Good signs already in many ways,
good pressing etc for me just these points,
Skrtel not good enough, I know we have injuries but not enough creativity up top, Milner not good enough for me would rather see Tex,
Mignolet I thought was much much better, Sakho looks great, Coutihno for me has gone missing again at times, lallana clearly is trying his ass off and could work in this system with the right support about him,
and most important for me a few mistakes or not we already look at least more comfortable in the system and players in correct positions, not too shabby!
17 Oct 2015 13:47:15
The only thing that was disappointing from Lallana was when there was a loose ball in the center of the park and he stood still and allowed Spurs to get it and launch their first attack of the game. Otherwise he is playing like he wants to be here.
It might be controversial but I think Allen has a role to play in this system of he can get the opportunity and keep consistency up. Normally I am all for shipping him off, but he can be an up tempo pest.
17 Oct 2015 13:36:02
Enjoying this. Well. With the exception of skrtel. I'm afraid he's done. Cooked. Spent. Looks atrocious out there.
But all in all its been a good game. Actually feels how English football used to feel.
17 Oct 2015 13:39:19
Michael Owens comment was pricless on skrtel, "he's made a couple of rare mistakes today".
Is Owen Brendan Rodgers love child by any chance #clueless.
17 Oct 2015 13:35:34
Edd001 quick update if you're not watching. Played well and pressed first 25, but skrtl has been shocking. We could have conceded 3 goals in his own doing. Spurs player allowed to get ahead of him close to the box if it was a quick one two spurs are through on goal, he makes a rash challenge gets nowhere near the ball with a ball through to Kane and Kane should have scored when sktrl should have stayed on his feet. And he lost another challenge and spurs have a entire goal to aim at.
{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, I was just about to post and ask how it was going. I hate not watching!!!!}
17 Oct 2015 13:38:13
To upate you ed001 skrtel is literally as shocking as he has ever been. Disaster waiting to happen, its painful to watch.
17 Oct 2015 13:41:00
Hey Big Al and ED01, for Ed001's benefit we look organised at least, players in correct positions, you can see the difference in attitude too, just a lack of creativity up top but in general even Migs looks different and hey he saved one with his feet!
Agree though Al, Skrtel looks lost whilst Sakho looks quality
Overall not too shabby!
{Ed001's Note - with his feet? Wow, miracles really can happen!}
17 Oct 2015 13:45:11
Edd001 no problem. Forgot to mention mignolet has kicked the ball out everytime it's been passed back to him but no surprise there. good game for klopp to really see the weaknesses first hand However and we may well nip a win if we start the second half as the first half hour.
{Ed001's Note - he doesn't really have much choice with regards to keepers until January.}
17 Oct 2015 13:46:54
Totally agree Skrtel is terrible Ed.
{Ed001's Note - hopefully Teixeira gets a chance at some point today though. Shame Skrts hasn't improved under Klopp, but it is still early.}
17 Oct 2015 13:28:29
Good first 15 and then Spurs took over. Can was excellent until he had that awkward fall, Coutinho absent and Origi smothered. Migs has had some excellent stopping and Clyne showed a flash of 1 touch football.
Wonder if they are tiring because of the new training regime. Hopefully the team talk gets them reenergised.
17 Oct 2015 13:34:55
I thought Coutinho looked off today. Origi should be out wide for me, rather than down the middle. I think we look improved at the back but still shaky, but a way in the right direction :)
Would love to see tex on for milner, no expectations on the game think he's the one who could do something or possibly sub phil off, looks tired.
17 Oct 2015 13:59:54
Milner is an odd conundrum. Great professional, experience winning and when he came on against us for city in the "we go again" game he tore us apart down the right with 1 touch movement. I want to see that player, this current version is box to box but not offering much.
17 Oct 2015 13:22:57
We started well with lots of energy. Players already tired at 35 mins, perhaps they need Booster juice or a similar type of smoothie?
17 Oct 2015 13:06:59
OH MY WORLD wtff? What has Jurgen done to migs? 😆 did you see him sweep that up😎 Come on the Reds.
17 Oct 2015 13:04:18
All hail King Klopp the new King of the Kop!
Im only joking. Jurgen has a lot to prove yet. And the way things are with this squad and injuries, this season will be a real test. But if the manager is as good as everyone is making out we will finish at least in the top 4 and it will be a positive season.
I don't think Klopp will be a success here but I hope he proves me wrong, him and the players have my support 100% Come on Liverpool !
17 Oct 2015 13:03:48
R. I. P Howard Kendal. God Bless.
17 Oct 2015 13:19:28
Sad and shocking to hear R. I. P Howard condolences to all bluenoses.
17 Oct 2015 12:53:10
5 mins in, good start and already a much more positive play.
17 Oct 2015 13:01:15
We are making spurs look really sloppy at times.
The press is working well so far.
17 Oct 2015 12:32:44
Gutted about Studge! Klopp said he probably could have played at a push yet, he's not on the bench? Luis would have played with one leg!
17 Oct 2015 12:37:11
Why risk such a big player in your first game in charge?
17 Oct 2015 12:32:32
Anyone else nervous about the game.
17 Oct 2015 12:37:43
No I'm excited.
First time in ages.
Your just negative all the time haha.
17 Oct 2015 12:38:57
Not really. Don't think much is expected with us starting our 4th choice striker, missing our top midfielder, amongst others. We all excited about Klopp, but he can't conjure magic I wouldn't expect. Or maybe he can?
17 Oct 2015 12:39:49
No!
Stop being a doubter and become a believer.
17 Oct 2015 13:28:07
To be fair I've been impressed with the defensive players.
17 Oct 2015 12:26:47
You have to feel for the lad, but seriously? Injured again? What is Sturridge made of? He is an elite athlete and yet repeatedly falls apart in training. I know this can happen, but its not like he is James Bond doing a parachute mission. Looks like we need three new strikers. Hard to believe as I type.
17 Oct 2015 13:37:35
Gutted Ings is out, Shame for studge he needs wrapping up in cotton wool and just watch training ;) i'm kidding, shame he keeps getting little knocks. Also wish Big ben and robbie F were fit! plus hendo. Klopp at Dormtund's last season all over again injuries galore! Chin up boys you will come back. YNWA.
17 Oct 2015 12:18:01
Few more minutes to go. can't wait for the klopp era.
17 Oct 2015 12:14:30
See Harry Redknapp is stirring the pot yet again when it comes to Liverpool.
He has it on good authority that Ancelotti was 1st choice and offered the job. Klopps first managerial outing and he broadcasts that. Cheers 'arry.
17 Oct 2015 12:29:19
That's 3 games now where he's had digs or stirred it up. It's baffling isn't it. As one of the Eds said recently, he had a good relationship with the club due to Jamie. Something must have got him wound up with us.
{Ed001's Note - he just knows it goes down well with the southern press.}
17 Oct 2015 12:36:20
He's winding me up today, just came out with the foreign managers haven't reinvented the wheel comment, ripping into origi and saying continho is the only player in our squad that could trouble Spurs.
17 Oct 2015 12:39:23
I think he's full of it, we all know lfc spoke to Carlo.
Maybe arry reads maccas posts as well.
17 Oct 2015 12:41:00
I sense a bit of friction with ol Harry! He's actually sounding really bitter. I hope his dog does a runner with his money now!
17 Oct 2015 13:12:55
He was asked questions, he answered them. He's there to make money. Just like you have all been eager to hear snippets of geerards newest autobiography. He didn't make anything up though did he. We were all made aware of what was going on by Macca. Does that mean macca is a pr*ck because he let all us know Ancelotti was first choice? NO
Get over it.
17 Oct 2015 13:38:04
Have you been listening to him Bob, it's not the ac bit that bothers me it's the absolute contempt he seems to have for us at the moment.
17 Oct 2015 14:24:23
So Bobatron your happy on Klopps 1st game for Harry Redknapp to attempt to to down grade Klopps appointment.
I have read anywhere on my list of replies that Harry has been called a prick?
17 Oct 2015 12:02:33
Sturridge indeed injured. L-R does it again!
17 Oct 2015 12:20:12
disappointed that skittles starts but I think we are short in defence. Hopefully a decent performance and texeria will get a run out.
17 Oct 2015 13:39:37
I'm Hoping Tex would get a shot to! Also i can only dream we still had suso with Klopp now. I thought he was top draw!
17 Oct 2015 11:56:23
hmm. looks like milner is playing that centre role in front of lucas and can. hope he proves him self.
17 Oct 2015 12:18:49
I think he might be on the right of that attacking 3 behind origi, hope so anyway because that's where I belive is his best position.
17 Oct 2015 11:56:03
Wow. We've got a poor squad. Klopps certainly got to be backed.
17 Oct 2015 12:20:41
Some important players injured mate.
Firmino, benteke, studge, Ings, Gomez. Etc.
17 Oct 2015 12:38:55
Sturridge, Benteke, Firmino, Henderson, Flanagan, Ings, Gomez, Lovren, Rossiter.
I think our squads generally fine that's 8 first team players out and Rossiter who I expected to get a squad place under Klopp. Not even City would look good with that sort of injury list.
17 Oct 2015 11:54:43
Hey lfc fans
Tough away game after All that's happened
Unfortunately a 2-0 home win for today.
17 Oct 2015 12:39:14
Red you are right that this is a very tough game against an in beaten Spurs but have you ever predicted a Liverpool win, I don't know if you are a Liverpool fan or a troll but the only time I read your posts they are a prediction of us losing.
17 Oct 2015 11:48:25
Seriously wtf is with all the injuries!
Gutted for Sturridge. Made of glass though!
17 Oct 2015 12:00:46
He needs to be sold. I think he's awesome when he's fit, but we've got to put Liverpool Football Club first and get a new world class player.
17 Oct 2015 12:21:49
Before we throw him under a bus, can we at least support the lad?
We don't even know the extent of his injury.
17 Oct 2015 12:21:54
Sell him to who? And for how much? Because he would only be going to a rival and for little money.
May as well keep him.
17 Oct 2015 12:40:33
I'm sure people just think we can get 20/30 mil for an injury prone player. We would be lucky to get a team to bite at 10/12 mil with his recent injury record.
17 Oct 2015 12:50:12
His scoring record in the league for us since he joined has been excellent.
Just think how many more he would have scored had he suffered less with injuries. Its a shame and I really hope he gets a good run of games without getting injured. He is still young so we can't throw him on the scrapheap we need to have faith in him and have the quality forwards and midfielders to step up when he isn't available.
17 Oct 2015 13:42:15
I wouldn't sell Studge, he's quality. I know he keeps getting injured but you kinda of have to feel he can't get up to game speed and maybe its affecting him. I know he will go through training and treatment but it's not the same as being on the pitch week in week out with opponents being tough. It might be a slight strain and then back to training boom a little knock. I feel for the lad though!
17 Oct 2015 11:36:30
A word of caution, it's going to take time for a urgent to fully implement his style of play.
So let's not get to disappointed if we don't get a result. I am just looking for a change in attitude
Send a tweet to Danny Inge, cheer him up.
17 Oct 2015 11:44:56
Urgent is my new name for Jurgen, Urgent Jurgen.
17 Oct 2015 11:45:50
we will get a result.
17 Oct 2015 12:35:10
Looking at our sqaud, the best result we could get today is 0 - 0.
17 Oct 2015 11:56:31
Win, draw, or lose - believe it or not they are all results! Sorry to hear about Sturridge. We should all show sympathy to the player and not complain about him being 'made of glass'. Let's remember that when he is playing he is 'made of CLASS'.
17 Oct 2015 11:33:41
Sad news hearing Howard Kendall has passed away. A top manager for Everton, the most succesful period of their time with great players. At the age of 69 is way too early for anyone. YNWA Howard.
17 Oct 2015 10:32:58
With all the money, technology, analysts and emerging players around these days, it begs the question,
Why on earth do people keep signing Joe Cole?
17 Oct 2015 11:46:31
well coventry are apparently pretty happy about it.
17 Oct 2015 12:22:48
Didn't even know he was still playing haha.
17 Oct 2015 09:54:17
Is there any firmer evidence that Sturridge is definitely out today?
Everything else i can find says he fit but only on here saying he's out.
So hope he plays!
17 Oct 2015 10:08:35
I guess we'll know in an hour and a half.
17 Oct 2015 10:12:20
I need to know by 11 as i have him in my fantasy league thingy ha!
17 Oct 2015 10:26:43
its a bluff. mindgames already . just to lift some spurs spirit and then thrash it down hard. you need to know how heavy metal works.
17 Oct 2015 10:29:22
Hope you're right mush.
17 Oct 2015 11:02:39
Hes out origi starting up front.
Ming, clyne, skrtel, sakho, moreno, lucas, can, lallana, coutinho, milner, origi.
17 Oct 2015 09:27:53
Hi Ed001 I know we haven't kicked a ball under Klopp yet, but its so refreshing to hear a Liverpool manager talk sense for a change. Over the past 3 years that's all we have heard is that we are not scoring enough goals, so we go out and buy another number 10.
In Klopps first interview he talked about the importance of not conceding and the importance of the defense providing a platform for the team to win. Not once did we hear Rodgers talk about the defence, always about the attacking players. We scored 100 goals under Rodgers and still didn't win the league. Every great team starts at the back, Smith, Hughes, Yeats, Thompson, Hansen, Lawrenson, Wright, Hyppia, AND MANY MORE. Recently we have had the players to score the goals however the team has always been let down by the defensive side (I won't even mention the goalkeeper) . Hopefully Klopp will tighten up the defense, then we can start moving forward. First and foremost we have to be hard to beat, as Klopp has said as long as we are in a game then we can win the game, when we defend like we did at Crystal Palace, Stoke, West Ham then we will always struggle, it gives poorer opposition hope when they know they can get at our defense.
Hopefully everyone gives the manager time to sort the team out. At the moment I am so impressed by his interviews, he sounds a very inspirational person, let's hope the players are given time to adjust to his methods and if we do start playing anything like his vision then we can be a real force.
We now have a top top manager and a great backroom staff let's hope everyone gives them him time and support.
Evered.
{Ed001's Note - I agree mate, the defence is the foundation you build on.}
17 Oct 2015 11:32:48
Edd001 are you watching the match today mate? I'd be pleased with a dra, win a bonus just as long we put on a decent improved performance.
{Ed001's Note - I can't mate, every time I have missed it we have been excellent, so I will continue to miss it until we stop winning.}
17 Oct 2015 12:22:39
Edd001 what do you make of the team selected. ? Probability similar to what I would want given the injuries. Hope skittles doesn't have a shocker.
{Ed001's Note - there wasn't a lot in the way of options, the interesting thing will be to see how it is set up.}
17 Oct 2015 09:08:18
Buzzing for today regardless of the result. Just looking forward to The team playing with aggression, pressing and hopefully a slightly more organised defence. Sounds like its going to be a great opportunity for Origi and if he doesn't cut it then maybe even Sinclair. YNWA.
17 Oct 2015 07:18:18
I am so excited I might just pee in my pants. Can't wait for kick-off!
17 Oct 2015 08:42:10
Im going to predict a defeat for us. Miracles don't happen over night and we are short on players. Spurs to win 2-1 for me, unfortunately.
17 Oct 2015 09:03:30
Excited, but would be chuffed for a point.
17 Oct 2015 09:32:07
Spurs in form thrashing Man City, LFC players injured or vomiting.
I'm going for a 3-2 win to LFC.
17 Oct 2015 09:40:04
People are going overboard!
I fully believe we will be successfull under klopp but it will take time to implement his style and tactics.
Im not expecting anything today i'm just happy rodgers is not on the team bus.
17 Oct 2015 10:52:56
It will be an average performance at best. Perhaps a 5-0 victory to Lfc 😂.
17 Oct 2015 10:58:36
Cheer up Reet, try and be positive 😉.
17 Oct 2015 11:11:36
I said a couple weeks ago that Spurs won't thrash any team in the league as they don't have it in them, when a couple hours later they beat city 4-1. I think I'll have to take a leaf from ed001s book and not to predictions. But remember Reds, nothing will happen over night.
17 Oct 2015 12:29:54
Not so much about a victory, more about the start of something great! C'mon Redmen!
17 Oct 2015 06:51:31
I don't know if it's been said on here before so I apologise if I am repeating things but I'm my opinion I think Klopp will look to sell Sturridge in January if not the Summer. Just a feeling I get.
17 Oct 2015 07:36:41
And I have a feeling he will buy instead the camel from the pic near your signiture. Just a feeling I get. Seriously, this is not even a bad rumure. What exactly leads you to think he would sell his best player? We all have bad dreams sometime but this is what they are, bad dreams.
17 Oct 2015 08:37:32
He didn't say it was a rumour, it was his opinion. To be fair what use is your best player if he's rarely fit? I wouldn't be surprised if he went either. I wonder how injured he really is. Is he actually unable to play or just has a slight knock/strain and doesn't have the bottle mentally. Love him when he does play but these 'injuries' are getting ridiculous.
17 Oct 2015 09:09:38
I hardly think he would be out for months and travel to USA if it was just a knock or a strain. Also don't you think the medical team would know if it was something minor.
17 Oct 2015 09:38:53
If the rumours are true that Sturridge could be out for a month, then no-one will pay top price for an injury prone striker.
Sturridge is one of those players who needs his own fitness coach. He needs special dispensation to miss training for risk of injury. Bellamy (a similarly explosive player) had injuries in his younger days, then he got a personal coach who said he was over-trained.
A fit Sturridge is almost priceless for a team like us (developing) . An injured Sturridge will not sell for much.
17 Oct 2015 09:44:21
I've always wondered if some of Sturridge's injuries are knocks he hasn't got the bottle to play through.
But then, you don't have surgery etc for knocks.
He has potential to be as prolific as Rush, it's a shame.
17 Oct 2015 10:44:22
Well Fanoblip as Topoftheklopps said its not a "rumure" whatever that is. It's just my personal opinion. Agree or disagree it's your choice. As was also said what use is your best player if he can only give you half the games a season. The kids great but he's about as much use injured as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest.
17 Oct 2015 12:31:07
Lads, I don't often post, in fact havnt posted in 2 years. Selling Sturridge would just be plain idiotic, ok he might only be fit for say 18 of 38 games but that's why we have a squad which currently has 4 first team strikers/centre forwards. Before it's said, yes we are now having to deal with the possibility that 3 of those are injured but that's pure coincidence and just plain bad luck.
As far as I'm aware and I should probably check it first but from memory Dancing Danny, whom half of the posters here want to sell, is one of the very best strikers we have ever had at LFC. His goals to games ratio is mental, I think it's the best of any player who has ever played for us, if not its not far off, again going from memory. So if that means he only plays 18 games but manages at least say 10 goals a season that's a pretty damn good return, I can't name another player at this point in time who does this for us, Ings would have I have no doubt but not now with his injury, Benteke I hope for his and ours that under Klopp he tears it up and bags 20 odd for the season.
Selling Sturridge would be moronic at best and a utter disaster at worst, for us, for the club as a whole, and for his team mates, the confidence he gives to those around him and the worry and stress he causes opponents defenders is priceless. I would take that every day of the week for 10 games a season let alone the possibility that as he gets better (and he will) he won't rely on his explosive bursts of pace but will learn to beat them with technical ability and a sharper mind with a more clinical ability to finish. Damn he possesses all of these traits now and in 2 years those skills and experience will be so much better than they are currently. Then with a bit of luck and fingers crossed the stress and impact he places upon his own body will be lessened and hopefully that will mean a lot less of the niggles and injuries he currently suffers from.
Seriously selling Sturridge? Dough headed muppets the lot of ya who thinks that's a good idea.
17 Oct 2015 02:28:22
Look out for Dortmunds Julian Weigl, plays in the the same position as Ruben Nevez of Porto.
17 Oct 2015 08:08:09
i thought we wouldn't go for dortmunds players? Is he in the youth or first team chiefscout?
16 Oct 2015 22:50:40
heres a difficult question I've asked a few of my friends about sturridge, would you sell him if he is only going to play 10 games a season,? I would sell him, not because of the money but because to be a winnig team then we need players playing at their best for the whole season, if anyone thinks i'm wrong just look at the teams that have won the prem and see how many of their best strikers or players where out most of the season through injury, when we came 2nd we had suarez who was never injured even sturridge was not as injured has he is now, but like i said look at the teams who have won the prem how many of their top players where out most of the season through injury, because to me this is a big factor when it comes to winning the prem, we would not have come 2nd that season if suarez was out injured for most of the season we would have missed all his goals and assits i said it was a difficult question what do others think.
17 Oct 2015 00:13:53
I would sell him at the right price, but I am not sure anyone would pay enough due to his injuries.
17 Oct 2015 08:00:26
Yer man city and aguero, explosive players get Injured it's just the nature of the beast, the key is having other good strikers that can take the burden from them or replace them when injured or rested. Studge is one of them special players that can make the difference against another top team with a moment of magic, no way I would sell him for the fee we would receive due to injury record, as ed02 said might cover ings fee, or origi I certainly know who I want.
17 Oct 2015 08:40:29
You're right about similar players suffering from injuries due to how they are but Studge is taking the pee! How many games does he play before he's injured again? Just isn't worth it.
{Ed001's Note - I would rather we figured out how to keep him fit personally, he is top class when fit.}
17 Oct 2015 08:49:19
So would i Ed. He's been with us a while now though and we haven't figured it out yet, you start to wonder if this is just how it is. Is he a bit of a Kieron Dyer, all in his head, or is it genuine?
{Ed001's Note - he is genuinely injured, but we have had him only under Rodgers, so it is hard to judge him. Be worth seeing if we get the same issues under a better manager before deciding on his future.}
17 Oct 2015 08:56:59
Fingers crossed!
17 Oct 2015 09:31:38
Sorry to ask Ed001, are you referring to him being genuinely injured in the past or for today's game? Someone else mentioned he may miss todays game.
{Ed001's Note - I was talking about historically, rather than it being a mental thing.}
17 Oct 2015 09:37:51
Been injured everywhere he has been. This is nothing new? Fans hoping to figure out how to heal him when truth be told the best medicine is to replace him. Shame BR thought Big Ben was the answer another player with a dismal injury record. Get what we can for them and move on I say. Let Jurgen have the cash to build.