Liverpool Banter Archive October 17 2010
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17 Oct 2010 23:46:30
Srly / wrists time after todays game guys im sry but roy is not instilling fight amongst the players they r playing with like a whatever attitude, defense is shocking and carra im affraid is too old and in attack theres no idea cole is out of position HE shud b bhind torres with steveg and raul as cm partners.Rant over now here comes my some what cringe weary thrt new owners always means new manager and not many top managers r available atm expect the USA coach in soon and his son in jan and TO BE HONEST i think the USA coach may not b a bad choice remember the world cup AND BY THE WAY I THINK 1 OF THE ED'S OF THIS SITE IS SEAN O'DRISCOL , well u gotta be why else do u keep pushing 4 him 2 get the top job lol (sean sry i mean ED plz print this as i srly think we may get the usa coach soon and i just wanna no wat ppl think )
{Editor's Note: I am not sure I understand any of this.}
17 Oct 2010 23:45:21
Anoher manager i really like but probably wouldn't be available untill 2012 is Joachim Loew (Germany manager).
Blair Mayne YNWA
17 Oct 2010 23:44:41
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17 Oct 2010 23:39:03
I want to see liverpool play football like germany did at the world cup. fluid, fast, attacking, attractive.
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Hire Klinsmann so. He sowed the seeds of that team.
17 Oct 2010 23:39:03
I want to see liverpool play football like germany did at the world cup. fluid, fast, attacking, attractive.
17 Oct 2010 23:35:48
Liverpool v Blackburn, 15:00
Bolton v Liverpool, 16:00
i predict liverpool will lose these two games, back-to-bakc. buy 1st nov we will be bottom of the league.
The thing i don't get is how all these fools can go off on international duty with the club on the bottom of the league. someone should really slap some sense into them. Cancel all international duty, cancel all parties other advertising deals.
Tell them to spend a little time at the club under locked doors. These players havnt had time together and its a real joke how they thing they can just turn up and everything will be great.
17 Oct 2010 23:33:08
We can all post our `dream teams` and `wish lists` a 1000 times over guys n gals, but the fact that seems to be escaping most is that we are now 19th in a league of 20, and it doesn`t look like improving anytime soon. so we have to ask, what kind of a draw are we for some of eurpoes `finest` rite now? is it even remotely realistic to imagine a player currently plying his trade in the top 3 of la liga, playing champions league football, is going to swap that for the europa and a relegation battle? the only kinds of players who`d do that are the mercenaries and i personally would rather our youth were given the chance to shine than a bunch of money grabbers who don't care for our club. i for 1 am disappointed that shelvey and wilson, who gave up regular 1st team football for the honour of wearing the red shirt, can`t even get on the bench on a regular basis. 1 up front home and away isn`t working for us, the manger seems out of his depth and devoid of any ideas.
worried red
the rev
17 Oct 2010 23:27:00
17 Oct 2010 23:22:18
At present the club can fix this mess we are in. Last week it was a different story the futures bright
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Couldn't have said it any better mate great post!
Blair Mayne YNWA
17 Oct 2010 23:25:14
Quite right Ed, Kelly's the first one that needs to be blooded.
Just seen RH's post match interview on SSN, what's he got to smile about and what colour is the sky in his world? Worrying.
Wasn't convinced either about how he fielded the questions asked about Torres. I need a lie down. Nighty night posters.
The Purple Helmet {ed's note - he is worrying me, he doesn't seem to be reflecting reality in his interviews. I wonder if the stress is affecting his mind?}
17 Oct 2010 23:22:18
At present the club can fix this mess we are in last week it was a different story the futures bright
17 Oct 2010 23:16:16
Roy H has to go by december, King Kenny in until the end of the season. . .it won't be an issue for him to be in charge for 5 months. HE WANTS THE JOB!, so let him do it. As long as we finish in the top ten his rep will still be intact.
New manager beginning of next season, potentially:
1.Manuel Pelligrini (Unattached)
2.Frank Rijkaard (out of contract in June)
3.Marco van basten (Unattached)
4.Michael Laudrup (Managing small club in spain)
5.Didier Deschamps (May well take it if offered again, as we have new owners).
5 really good candidates but maybe only a couple until end of the season.
Ed, what do u think of this analysis, fair comments? {ed's note - not really, van Basten is unattached because he has not been a success anywhere he has been as a coach. But more importantly, Mallorca are hardly a 'small club in Spain', they may not be Barca or Real Madrid, but they are a top flight side with their very own oil sheikh backing them.}
Ed, i believe u may be talking about Malaga, who have indeed been bought out by a member of Qatars ruling family. . {ed's note - oops was it not Mallorca?}
oddly enuff Ed, altho' wikipedia isn't a reliable source. . . . they do seem to have had a laughable amount of managers, they sack 3 in a year sometimes and have had a new one each year for the last 30, so i would say again ED, Michael Laudrup, how about it?
{Different Editor's Note: Pellegrini?}
17 Oct 2010 22:54:10
Ed
We're singing from the same hymn sheet. The names you mentioned are some of the imposters I alluded to in my earlier post. One thing is for sure, Johnson wasn't missed today.
The Purple Helmet {ed's note - I just wish Roy wouldn't stick to the same players we already know aren't good enough. Kelly is good enough, play him!!!}
17 Oct 2010 22:42:37
Hi first time posting but i read posts every day on here great work ed and fellow supporters,
i feel hodgson is too nicey nicey and worried our tradition of not pushing managers out might do more harm then good,
konchesky and poulsen are shocking buys, i like merieles mind you, but too be playing lucas, maxi ahead of babel and gerrard centre mid and ngog (still not good enough) up top 2 make 4-4-2 is beyond me, he looked stuck on sidelines whole match and only made decisions when was too late, days are numbered i hope as we can get manager in now who can put there stamp on team and then will know if will work and how many signings needed in jan, personally id love to have taiwo/ cissoko left back, sanchez/ mata on wings and llorente upfront, and i no will not go down well but carragher has had his day and id replace with either one of the brum boys or cahill from bolton just my point of view for first post, agree or disagree down to you. .
17 Oct 2010 22:35:49
Lost for words to describe the trash I saw today. Benayoun, Riera, Mascherno, Aqualini, Insua _ I know not great (aprt Mach) but a lot better than Poulson, Konchesky, Cole.
Seriously action is required now before the Blackburn home game. Sack Hodgson the man is clueless
17 Oct 2010 22:28:57
Liverpool starting 11
reina
kelly, aggar, ayala, konces
babel, gerrard, merales, amoo
pach
torres
lots of width and pace
what do you think ed
karl YNWA {ed's note - Amoo on the right do you mean? If so I think that is a much better team than today's one was.}
17 Oct 2010 22:28:52
Can't the FA step in and stop this madness. Great clubs with years of history like our great club are being bled dry. Where would the prem be without us.
17 Oct 2010 22:23:35
ROy ROY ROY
how can you keep defending the players after such performances. Grow some balls and tell them and the media that they are playing s* te. IMO Roy is too soft and should be shown the door today.Also any player that wants to go with him give them some ressie time and sell them in Jan. Lets get some pride in the shirt and wins will follow. Jamie time to become a coach. Torres needs a smack in the bum and told to fire up or enjoy a spell in ressies.
ROY: definaition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
17 Oct 2010 22:20:50
Take your point Ed but I still think it is more than coincidental that our defensive frailties began when Masch's head began to be turned by Barca over a year ago.
I think Kelly and Wilson should play as many games as possible together (Europa league, Reserves, FA Cup) to see if they can forge a solid partnership for the future. With Reina, that's the base of your team's spine and as I said before, perhaps we do already have the players, its the balance that's missing. Give Cole a chance right midfield and push Gerrard up, Christ, he might even start smiling again. never thought I'd say it but he looks happier playing for England than Liverpool these days and that's part of the problem for us.
The Purple Helmet {ed's note - I agree the defence is shaky, but I think that is more to do with the fact that we have Johnson, Skrtel and Kyrgiakos in it most weeks.}
17 Oct 2010 22:11:20
Same old rubbish from liverpool today Torres left on his own in no mans land Gerrard covering our carp midfield apart from Raul meireles cole out of pos play him with Torres. Maxi Lucas Poulsen Konchesky and Ngog tell them to find other clubs and give Shelvey and co a chance .And i almost forgot Tell Roy this is Liverpool not Fulham we want attacking football not counter attack or leave .
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Cole isn't being played out of position, he's a winger not SS. we should play Jovanovic with torres if not N'gog or babel. play more attacking football and leave the 451 for the bigger teams.
one of each position. .
- (LB or Insua back) - Drenthe, michel bastos, Urby emanuelson and fabio coentrao
- (CM to partner AGGER) - Mexes, Vlaar
- (DM/ CM or Aquilani back) - Benaga, Defour, Inler
- (WM) - mata, turan, honda, afellay
- (CF) - gomez, llorente, lisandro lopez
17 Oct 2010 22:09:40
Michael Laudrup Manages Mallorca ed.
Wish list of managers i would like to see at anfield.:
1. The Special one
2. Didier Deschamps(Young and talented managers, helpes Marseille win the french league after i don't know how many years)
3.Michael Laudrup
4.Frank Rijkaard(He's footballing style is amazing)
5.Marco Van Basten.
What do you think of these guys ed, who would you pick? ? {ed's note - Laudrup for me of those bunch, he is a Liverpool fan for starters.}
17 Oct 2010 22:07:11
I second Trishams comment about Ian Holloway. Our squad or at least of first team is a good set of players. Many of them individually would be snapped out by the "traditional top 4" and in fact would hold first team places in the elite teams in Europe. This is not a matter of inheriting a bad team / squad this is bad management.
17 Oct 2010 22:04:53
Do you really rate Meireles? playing for Liverpool, in every game he runs around like a headless chicken, he gives the ball away just as many times as Lucas . And I find it surprising you put Jovanovic in the discard pile, he is not great but a lot more positive that Raul, he gets the ball and push forward does not give it away cheaply .
I personally think a better positive manager and the whole team will play better, if we sort out the back 4 and get them to push forward, everything else will fall into place, buy a young experienced CB and partner him with Ayala . , if we cannot put Carra on the bench , then possibly we can try him as our holding midfielder , he reads the game well and his lack of pace will be compensated by the defenders behind . I still think there a lot of talent in the squad, it just need to be managed better.
Well we will have to agree to disagree about Meireles although he was at fault for the 2nd goal today. As for jovanovic, Im still having nightmares about him getting ripped apart by Johnson in the Man City match. We lack real speed in attack & commanding presence at the back. Most of all, the biggest think we lack is something you can't buy! Backbone!
The Irish Rover
17 Oct 2010 21:59:50
Terribly deflated after that performance today.
Following all that has gone on this week in and out of the courts, this was the chance to show some fire in their bellies but Everton just seemed to want it more. Want to defend RH but how can you when he's all smiles at the final whistle and says we were unlucky in the second half.
Roy, mate, you can have all the possession in the world but you need to know what to do with it when you get into the oppositions half and penalty box. Fed up of the trend of playing right footed players on the left. A blind man on a galloping horse can see that Gerrard needs to be 20 yards further forward supporting Torres and that would allow Miereles and Cole to blossom in the centre and on the right. We need balance.
Time to blood Kelly at Centre back, his proper position and find a proper holding player to replace Mascherano, Christ we missed him today and it was noticeable Poulsen wasn't even on the bench. Who would you suggest Ed? Lassana Diarra?
Pacheco and some of the other kids need to be given their opportunity because there are too many average players disguised as internationals in red shirts at the moment.
And finally, if the rumours are true and if NESV want to give us a marquee signing in January, why not go for Rooney? its about talent and ability not a popularity contest and if we don't make a major signing, we may become less appealing to others in the future.
The Purple Helmet {ed's note - I would rather not play with a holding midfielder, better to have two proper central midfielders who can get forward and defend.}
17 Oct 2010 21:58:05
I figured out the problem. Its the LACK of HAIR on the pitch. baldies defense - Skrtel, Konchesky, Meireles, Reina all lost their hair. Torres turned crap when he dyed his hair.
Qucik does anyone know a good hairdresser, we need get the lads in liverpool perm from 1970's. lol
Talk about bad hair days. When the hair improves the team will start winning {ed's note - Kyrgiakos has lots of hair but he is probably our worst player.....}
17 Oct 2010 21:54:47
We have pace in the team but it is not used and an exellent technical player in aurellio wot about puttin him at lb babel at rw ngog an torred upfront an explain to players the importance ofthis great club. The sloppy passin should stop an give pacheco a run at least as sub. All this until we can reinforce in jan . you all may not have noticed but no team at the mo is unstoppable . If i can see this why can't the players an roy. Finally attack from first min not the last 20
Mo man
17 Oct 2010 21:51:54
Anybody know why Johnson didn't play today? {ed's note - thigh injury was the reason given.}
17 Oct 2010 21:44:41
Irish:
"I think if we are honest we would see that Apart from Reina, Agger, Gerrard, Meireles & Torres than every other senior is expendable. This includes 3 of Roys signings Poulsen, Konchesky & Cole ( terrible signing)! Add to that Johnson, Maxi, Babel, Skertel, Jovanovic, Lucas & you can see the job that needs done."
Do you really rate Meireles? playing for Liverpool, in every game he runs around like a headless chicken, he gives the ball away just as many times as Lucas . And I find it surprising you put Jovanovic in the discard pile, he is not great but a lot more positive that Raul, he gets the ball and push forward does not give it away cheaply .
I personally think a better positive manager and the whole team will play better, if we sort out the back 4 and get them to push forward, everything else will fall into place, buy a young experienced CB and partner him with Ayala . , if we cannot put Carra on the bench , then possibly we can try him as our holding midfielder , he reads the game well and his lack of pace will be compensated by the defenders behind . I still think there a lot of talent in the squad, it just need to be managed better.
Roy
17 Oct 2010 21:43:52
I know we can go on about the lack of service for Torres, but i can guarantee you he doesn't want to be there.
Macca
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Ya but Anelka didn't want to be at Bolton a few years ago but still scored buckets loads of goals cause he got service & more importantly - support.
Irish Kev
17 Oct 2010 21:41:51
17 Oct 2010 18:29:25
I understand that Roy has been summoned to a high level meeting tonight.
After the euphoria of the court case earlier this week, purslow and broughton will seek to reassure the fans by making a sweeping announcement.
John Henry will show that he will and can make decisions in the best interests of the club immediately.
Press announcement soon, one years severance pay for Roy.
Kenny is being tipped behind closed doors, pelegrini from january is a possibility
Why wait until January for Pellegrini? He's not contracted to anyone. Get him in now, giving him time to assess the squad ahead of the January window.
17 Oct 2010 21:40:20
How deluded are you people?
Jose muriniho would not come within a hundred miles of liverpool right now, he does not make bad teams good, just good teams great.
the 'new' yonks will will spend some money to start with but not bank roll 300 mil like the last ediot wasted
the truth is they are here to make money not lose it
so how long till every body but the players on the pitch get the blame again?
17 Oct 2010 21:38:33
Same old rubbish from liverpool today Torres left on his own in no mans land Gerrard covering our carp midfield apart from Raul meireles cole out of pos play him with Torres. Maxi Lucas Poulsen Konchesky and Ngog tell them to find other clubs and give Shelvey and co a chance .And i almost forgot Tell Roy this is Liverpool not Fulham we want attacking football not counter attack or leave .
17 Oct 2010 21:36:55
I know we can go on about the lack of service for Torres, but i can guarantee you he doesn't want to be there.
Macca
Thank you macca. .
About bloody time one of the regulars has got the balls to say it. .
I know ed doesn't like him but Id defo have Dzeko, and defo Honda,
The harder you work the luckier you become. .
Torres is having no luck at the moment. .
SMF
17 Oct 2010 21:36:01
Sorry all but am i missing something?
Didn't Rafa leave in the summer?
Well if he did who is the guy on our bench pretending to be our manager?
What has changed since Rafa left?
Hardly a bloody thing!
I'm not calling for Roy's (Rafa #2) resignation or sacking or anything, just want him to try something a little different to Rafa's tragedy of a strategy.
No more 4 - 2 - 3 - 1 please!
It does NOT work for us anymore.
Torres has CLEARLY lost a half yard to a yard of initial pace since all his injuries ala Owen (trust me i'm a physical trainer & conditioner) so needs someone else playing alongside with him. We need to use his attributes differently now or sell him.
Gerrard is slowing down too so it can't be him.
Why not try Pacheco on the right, Kuyt / Jovanovic / Babel on left & Torres in the middle of 3 pronged attack.
Reina
Kelly Carragher Agger Aurelio
Johnson Gerrard Cole
Pacheco Torres Kuyt / Jovanovic / Babel
Go gung ho. .what have we got to lose now?? ?! !
We're losing anyway so we may as well attack & try to out number defences as we attack cause at the moment defences are out numbering us.
Would definately try for Arda / Hazard, Honda & an out & out goal scorer (Suarez if at all possible) now in January. No more excuses. Torres needs a back up / or replacement ASAP or its hello Championship, bye bye Premiership. Get on it Roy with your so called sports science team. If i were in charge of wages at Anfield, i'd let them go straight away. "Sports science team" - what a load of tosh! !
Kev
Irish Kev.
17 Oct 2010 21:35:59
RE:Roy to be sacked within a month then king kenny to step in till the end of the season when jose will leave madrid not by his choice and take over at anfield .
LOL Thats biggest load of bull ever.
1>Kenny won't take control of the club because he is too old to be messing with player and travelin. He has done a job for us at board level.
2>Roy won't be sacked. no matter how much u want him to be sacked
3> no way in hell would mourinho ever come to lfc under management of John Henry. Jose would want a truck load of money for himself and for players. He still wouldn't be happy. Im guessin mourinho will manage his country to world cup glory next. no mess around with small time team like liverpool
17 Oct 2010 21:35:34
Ed, why don't you go for Liverpool manager. I have read some of your comments and I think you would be a lot better than woy?
{Editor's Note: I appreciate your thoughts but am currently unavailable. The other Ed you might be referring to cannot afford the drop in salary.}
17 Oct 2010 21:32:39
Sack roy he can't handle the pressure he was a flop at blackburn, got lucky at fulham . now hes got better players he still can't do it . YNWA
17 Oct 2010 21:31:48
Roy hodgson to be given 2 more matches then will be out the door
also we need to bring back pako to the club and get him coaching the players he is brillant
kenny daglish as manager pako as assistant and ian rush coaching
bring back hyypia and gary mac to help the defenders and midfielders
also on the stadium issue i have heard that the owners have meeting with liverpool city council this week and next to sort out the stadium also their is big company looking to sponsor the ground.
17 Oct 2010 21:31:47
Imagine our best right winger of the last 4 years has been Luis Garica who got sold in 2007.
and we shoulda kept Riera
17 Oct 2010 21:31:03
{ed's note - I am sorry but if the players haven't got respect for whoever is appointed then they should be sacked. If they are such pathetic spoilt little brats that they think they have a right to pick and choose who they play for then get rid. The Derby is not a match that any manager should have to get the players up for - they should be up for it on their own and if they can't then they have no right to be at the club.}
In an ideal lovely world I would agree with you, but the reality of it, these spoilt little sh* s have the power, they have more money and ego than they have loyalty or sense, not just at Liverpool or England , its world wide .
Its nothing new, and if those in charge don't know that then we are in deep trouble . .
Anyway our problem Roy is not going any where, he won't walk and those that hired him won't sack him . will make Purslow looking for stupid. the new owners can only follow the advice of the board , and higher management, and its those that will be making all kind of excuses for Roy till the end of the season, I just hope he does nt waste a lot of money in Jan, and hope that he manages a dozen or so wins from somewhere . cannot see us getting more than 2 points in the next 2 games.
Roy
17 Oct 2010 21:28:41
I think if we are honest we would see that Apart from Reina, Agger, Gerrard, Meireles & Torres than every other senior is expendable. This includes 3 of Roys signings Poulsen, Konchesky & Cole ( terrible signing)! Add to that Johnson, Maxi, Babel, Skertel, Jovanovic, Lucas & you can see the job that needs done. Of course we have a few good youngsters who deserve a chance, namely Pacheco, Ayala & Kelly who if they don't get their chance will want to leave very soon. It will feel like a long time until the January transfer window. We need to find 2 wins in a row against anyone in the league just to feel better about ourselves & give the team a morale boost & the sooner the better.Losing is a hard habit to break.
The Irish Rover
17 Oct 2010 21:26:50
Ed can you tell me why the youth players arnt being played.are they not good enough.surely they would be better than what we got.i see all the top 6 teams play some youth but where is ours havent seen n e play a few games in league even under benitez. dorset red
{Editor's Note: I would gradually blood them - but not all at once.}
17 Oct 2010 21:26:40
No disrespect to KK, but how often does a manager return to a job where he has previously been successful and do well?
17 Oct 2010 21:21:27
Roy to be sacked within a month then king kenny to step in till the end of the season when jose will leave madrid not by his choice and take over at anfield .
17 Oct 2010 21:20:21
This site should add fan polls. many fans keep saying same thing over and over, just let fans vote on it and hopfully some it will get back to club.
eg johnson l-wing (we could poll that question and many more.
17 Oct 2010 21:19:47
The whole team wants stringing up by there bollox, i don't care if there no depth in the squad, the money they are paid, they should run their asses off for us the fans, i feel sorry for roy maybe we should of signed the fulham squad aswell.
17 Oct 2010 21:15:04
I know we can go on about the lack of service for Torres, but i can guarantee you he doesn't want to be there.
Macca
17 Oct 2010 21:11:49
When does fan power give up its voice and let the club run its own business.
some of these liverpool supporters have gotten very powerful over the last couple of months by bringing down hicks. They now thing they can bring down the manager too. Where does it end?
Isnt it time to put away the demo-kits and get back to happy familes
17 Oct 2010 21:11:46
LFC have a tradition of giving their managers a chance. But none of them have had the start to a season the Roy has. The team doesn't even look motived, he clearly doesn't have the confidence of the team.
Regardless of what Roy does, the board will now be looking to bring in a top manager & this will happen before January. King Kenny could fill in temp till the end of season. I would love to see him & Phil Tommo at the helm, if only as a stop gap till we get the right man in the summer.
17 Oct 2010 21:11:20
ROYS GOT 2 GO , i think that roy is playing players out of position , defensive play 2 make lfc an average side , and my theory is roy and fergie have a good friendship and roy is helping fergie try and get that 19th title, and 3 more european cups to overtake lfc . Like fergie said when he took over man u , i knock them of their perch i could be wrong :-) ALSO bring pellegrini in YNWA
17 Oct 2010 21:05:44
To red Lenin re his team:
Quite like it and agree with you mate at least they'd be hungry to prove themselves. Maybe 1 more experiened guy in backs to blood these guys in. Also does ed or any1 think suso should be thrown in at the deep end off the striker. Flabbyarse of arsenal was plain for arsenal at his age.
Fowler is god
17 Oct 2010 21:05:35
Woy really does have to go, but I have just spent the last hour thinking who the hell has the profile to attract quality players, tactical experience, proven track record and for me preferably young enough as an appointment to build a winning squad over the next 5 years.
I can really only think of a few that I believe would meet all these criteria.
Mauricio Pellegrini
Jurgen Klinsmann
Frank Rijkaard
Those people that keep saying
King Kenny (Love the guy but 10 years out is a long time)
Martin Oneill (Seriously if he was that good Villa would have had a title by now)
This really is tough. . id still have Benitez back personally but so many didn't like him so maybe time for someone else.
Would like to hear others ideas
17 Oct 2010 21:04:54
The new owners should try get Michael Laudrup to replace Roy. He's been known to give oppourtunitys to youngsters which everyone wants. Plays football the way it should be played and he did well at previous clubs. He likes to manage in spain but surley Liverpool is a big enough club to make him want to stay managing in England?
17 Oct 2010 21:04:15
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Cole- - Shelvey- -Gerrard- - Amoo
Mavinga- -Ayala- - Wilson- -Kelly
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And yes it would be a frighteninglyoinexperienced side, but ask yourself - could it perform any worse than what we're fielding at the moment? I think not and it might give some of the senior players a big kick up the behind to be dropped in favour of an 18 year old.
RED LENIN
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I really agree with this, they would certainly play their socks off.
17 Oct 2010 21:01:56
Ed why are some fans infatuated with gettin king kenny back to manage the team, personally i would prefer to get pelligrini straight away and then let hiom sort it out and bring in his own backrom and tactics, king kenny would be a step back in my opinion and we should try to blag hansen into taking a job as a defnce coach cause we need one, whay will hapen if torres, gerrard and reina want to leave in the summer well then we would be stuck with nothing but would be able to rebuild with the revenue generated by there sales
torres-45-50m
gerrard-30m
reina-30m
even though i would hate to see pepe, gerrard leave but what can you do if they want to go
17 Oct 2010 21:01:43
Expect ken aguero to come in on january on a bosman
17 Oct 2010 21:00:25
Ed what would ya tink of Mick Mc Carthy as Our new manager? I think he'd do a fantastic job, without doubt Irelands best ever manager when it came to playing football and getting results, pity he got shafted by the FAI because of that traiter Roy Keane in Saipan. I know a lot of people would slate me for even suggesting it but i think his no nonsence approach is exactly what we need, he would have us playing attractive football with the added bonus of premiership experience.
{Editor's Note: Not for me.}
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Did a great job with the Irish squad but not for Liverpool.
He'd never attract top quality players to play the attractive football you talk of.
Did a super job bringing youth through for Ireland but we need a top top manager right now.
For me, Rijkaard (even though no Prem experience but plays good football & not afraid to play youth).
Or Mourinho (The dream), ok so the football may not be that attractive with him but i'd sacrafice that for results right now. God i'd sacrafice my granny for results right now!
Irish Kev.
17 Oct 2010 20:59:22
Roy could have rooney out on the pitch, he could have drogba, it doesn't matter because no one is feeding him the ball. Strikers need to have the ball passed to them.
Im surprised he hasnt said it on sky interview. He is best striker in the world, but he can't do much if he isn't given the ball.
Good point
But i totally disagree
the other players you just named work alot harder to get the ball. and if he isn't getting the ball then individually who are you blaming(players), dont say Roy. .
17 Oct 2010 20:58:54
17 Oct 2010 19:03:48
Fans should boycott next home game to make a statement to the new owners that they're not willing to pay to see a non-committal team. Only empty seats will bring the message through.
- I disagree. All that would do is reinforce the fact that the club is still in crisis, which won't help the players at all.
I agree with the notion that there clearly are problemsthough, with i being either A. Roy or B. The dressing room or C. Both.
Personally, I think that it is a mixture between Rafa making a lot of dodgy signings with the limited money he was given and Roy also making dodgy signings with the limited money he was given.
Though I like Roy I still can't understand why he loaned out Aquilani, he's having a good season in Italy by the way. It would have been much better to have him in the centre as opposed to Lucas. It also annoys me that we are still playing a 4-5-1, I don't see why Roy can't just leave out Lucas and put N'gog or Pacheco on from the off. Pacheco is potentially brilliant and I have said before that having a strike partnership that consists of two strikers of the same nationality can be lethal. One reason is because they speak the same language, so they have more understanding, better communication and a lot of opposing players wouldn't understand them. There would also be the chance that could benefit from more match time, which they may get when playing together for their national team.
17 Oct 2010 20:56:26
- - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - - -
- - - Jovanovic - - -
Cole- - - -Gerrard- - Meireles
Konchesky Agger Skrtel Carrager - Johnson|
- - - - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - -
Long ball football. just keep kicking it upfield to torres, and then defend for dear life after the fact.
17 Oct 2010 20:55:36
Surely the new owners are on the phone to Martin O'neil as we speak. {ed's note - if they are then we are well and truly f* * *!} What, proper F* * *?
Hiddink did a great job for Chelsea on a temp basis, why not ask him to come and do the same for us.
{Editor's Note: He is tied to a job already and would never consider it.}
17 Oct 2010 20:54:27
17 Oct 2010 20:45:26
We do not need lots of transfers-in. With what we already have we could have fielded a far far more effective team than that of today just by playing the younger ones and recalling Ayala. For instance, we could field:-
- - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - -Pacheco- - - -
Cole- - Shelvey- -Gerrard- - Amoo
Mavinga- -Ayala- - Wilson- -Kelly
- - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - -
And yes it would be a frighteninglyoinexperienced side, but ask yourself - could it perform any worse than what we're fielding at the moment? I think not and it might give some of the senior players a big kick up the behind to be dropped in favour of an 18 year old.
RED LENIN
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(( i think your taking it abit too far in terms of bringin in youngsters through m8
17 Oct 2010 20:53:39
Lets make a start on this headache of a debate:
roy to stay and be given more time believable
roy and mr.lee to be fired and replaced unbelievable
Just in response to your vote, i really think whatever about Hodsgon going, i DEFINATELY think Sammy Lee should be flipping burgers in MacDonalds and not Liverpools FC no 2, if you look at every other top team when a subsitution is being made they are up passing on strict orders that they may of worked on in training and they actually show an interest. . . HE SITS ON HIS ARS* FOR THE WHOLE GAME BARKING OCCASSIONALY! . Start with him and then all the dead wood that Rafa has brought to this club.
17 Oct 2010 20:53:20
Roy out!
dalglish in!
buy:
alonso, not gettin on with jose
a.young, great provin prem winger
tawio, contract ends in june so get him on the cheap
david luis, to replace carra hes past his best saddly:( he would be very good with agger.
aguero, played with torres before and could do it again.
thats what i wud do with the new investment, anyone agree ?
17 Oct 2010 20:52:38
Well stop me if im wrong, but today i think was roy's interview infront of the new owners and unfortunatly he didn't do the business, maybe he will be given one last chane against blackburn. i for one could'nt sack roy, i couldnt sit across a table from him and say your fired he is to nice of a man. but then again i don't have to. im not sure was ever long term, but i guess he was supposed to be there atleast one season. ed any thoughts on roy, and if he does go who would you like to see.
always a red
17 Oct 2010 20:50:40
We should said playing long ball football. Kick the ball long to torres and he will score the goals. Renia and torres can just play together and bypass that waste of time midfield. we can play real Oniel style football
17 Oct 2010 20:49:08
I feel sorry for Woy i really do, but in some ways he has himself to blame with the awful way in which the team is playing. I am no manager, and do not profess to be one, but surley it is plain to see that we do not work well with 5 across the midfield with Torres up on his own. In seasons past it has been proven that Gerrard playing off Torres with 4 across the midfield works wonders and when on attack there are very few in the Prem or Europe that could better us. It is not with Liverpool way WOY to hoof the ball up field or bang in cross after cross to one lone striker, especially one that is clearly struggling either returning to fitness or after having his head turned elsewhere!
I like to think myself as a believer in 'go with what you've got' but Woy's time has to be up soon, if not before the Blackburn game.
For me it has to be King Kenny. .please get us back to the Liverpool we once were. .masters of all we pursue!
Any thoughts ed? {ed's note - I just worry he won't be able to turn back time and be the manager he was.}
17 Oct 2010 20:48:44
Reina - keep
agger - keep
carrager - keep but only as backup
johnson - keep as WINGER
koncheski - sell
the greek - sell
skertle - sell
auilio - sell
meirles - keep
gerrard - keep
lucas - gie him away just get rid
poulson - as above
babel - keep as back up
jovanovic - sell
ngog - keep
torres - 50/ 50 keep but only if he wants to be here otherwise cash in as to injury prone
cole - sell worst bit of business ever benyoon was much much much better player than this lad.
bring some youngsters through now, what we got to loose we can't win league and you got to see if there good enough, and in summer get rid all that crap up there and buy a few decent buys and get back to the LIVERPOOL WAY bringing youngsters through and playing football not all this long ball stuff,
message to the manager if your gonna play long baland narrow don't you think you should have 2 strikers in case for ny reason torres should win a header against one of the best teams in the league for balls in air, your tactics are a total and utter disgrace.
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Your spelling errors are a total and utter disgrace! !
17 Oct 2010 20:48:18
Forget all the made up rumours of who we should sign because we can't sign anyone until January and then it is upto the manager who he wants and then then owners to agree to purchase the said players not daydreaming fans on rumour sites who do not know anything about how a football club is run behind the scenes.
The messages about boycotting the next game to get our new owners to sack the present manager are totally absurd get behind the present manager and support the team and hopefully results will improve. I am no happier than any lfc fan with regards to our present league position but I have the good sense to realise it is false and as soon as a few of our better players regain confidence we will climb back up the table
The worrying thing for me with ref to todays performance is that our second half showing was as good as we have played this season and with a bit of luck matters will improve. I still can't figure out why we have seen improvement in the second half of all our games so far this season , poss starting with wrong shape / / pattern from kick off ?
As the manager Roy is responsible for results but bringing in a new manager now is to early wait until we get closer to jan transfer then explore this alternative if results under roy have still not improved.
Marco
17 Oct 2010 20:47:56
To the people who wouldn't have rooney please get your eyes testing if we had the chance any1 would have him wen he plays 4 england we all love him so sign him up now
17 Oct 2010 20:47:50
RE:Torres was terrible his body language is disgusting, no injury excuses
Roy could have rooney out on the pitch, he could have drogba, it doesn't matter because no one is feeding him the ball. Strikers need to have the ball passed to them.
Im surprised he hasnt said it on sky interview. He is best striker in the world, but he can't do much if he isn't given the ball.
17 Oct 2010 20:45:29
GET THIS MAN (Roy of the Fulham) OUT NOW,
HE IS OUT OF HIS DEPTH,
BRING KENNY IN NOW WITH JAMIE CARRAGHER WORKING ALONG SIDE HIM LEARNING THE TRADE.
Fulham had the best season ever last season
finish 12th and only had 1 away win in the league
forget the uefa cup or league, this is why Kenny wanted the job because he knew he wasn, t good enough for LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB.
17 Oct 2010 20:45:26
We do not need lots of transfers-in. With what we already have we could have fielded a far far more effective team than that of today just by playing the younger ones and recalling Ayala. For instance, we could field:-
- - - - - -Torres- - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - -Pacheco- - - -
Cole- - Shelvey- -Gerrard- - Amoo
Mavinga- -Ayala- - Wilson- -Kelly
- - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - -
And yes it would be a frighteninglyoinexperienced side, but ask yourself - could it perform any worse than what we're fielding at the moment? I think not and it might give some of the senior players a big kick up the behind to be dropped in favour of an 18 year old.
RED LENIN
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17 Oct 2010 20:40:27
RE:everyone here calling for hodgsons head
You know John Henry is tight with his money, he won't pay someone else to do Roy's job because he knows that's the best the team can do. they are average players.
John Henry is a man who won't go into this own pocket for a new stadium, he sure won't waste money on a new manager. Why should he pay compensate roy when another manager would get the same result.
Most of all Henry is looking for a yes manager with honest heart and Roy could be the right donkey for this job.
17 Oct 2010 20:40:19
Question to the editor and fellow fans. . . . . do you think there is any chance we can re-sign Xabi Alonso? He's been seen at Anfield a few times and if Real don't do it in La Liga this season he could be tempted? Also, is there any chance of Rafa returning now that H & G are gone?
{Editor's Note: I doubt it.}
17 Oct 2010 20:39:54
The person who said roy keane hasnt done much well he took sunderland to the prem and saved ipswich from relagation and now there in playoff place plus hes young and a man that's hard as nails says wot he thinks about anyone including arsen and alex f with a good number 2 king kenny he will be great. . they have the same blood celtic roots so they should get on and alex f would hate that
17 Oct 2010 20:38:07
We need a CB, LB, DEF MID, LW, RW, ST. my choice would be Cahill, Drenthe, Diarra, A.Young & D.Bent. You can't go buying players with no premier league experience in the predicament we find our selves in.
Gav the red
17 Oct 2010 20:36:21
I think personally Roy has done what he can with what hes got. . ok its a terrible start. but for christs sake, listen to yourselves put all the blame on him. take a good look at your players Torres was terrible his body language is disgusting, no injury excuses like Roy said but he still tried to defend him. .Joe Cole , what happened.Ancelottis not daft, he didn't need him. Im sick of defending players that arent interested. .Merieles i think looks good , i think it was only him who tried to stop the cross for the first, and the 2nd shot.Kelly should have played, Stevie G played well but he doesn't run the games anymore.Sometimes you gotta move out the lapse big earning superstar big time charlies and start again.These Boston Businessmen are here to do whats best, and trust me come January they won't pussyfoot about. any signs anyone isn't pulling in the right direction, theyll be out. Everton thoroughly deserved the win. I thought we needed 2 or 3 players, how wrong have i been , we need about 6 for starters. .Signed very pist off red.
17 Oct 2010 20:34:42
R-Bable hung on to lfc like he was hanging on for dear life. They can't get him out of the door. He knows droppin to less known team will finish him as a player.
17 Oct 2010 20:34:28
Theres no chance rooney would come to liverpool and it would be to much to spend on one player
17 Oct 2010 20:34:21
NESV are prepared to spend in January, I've seen £25m quoted in the papers today and this could be swelled further with the sales of:
• Alberto Aquilani – Juventus - £12.5m
• Maxi Rodriguez – Malaga/ Mallorca - £1m
• Ryan Babel –Ajax/ Tottenham/ West Ham -£6m
• Lucas – Palermo - £7m
• Martin Skrtel – Lyon - £8m
• Christian Poulsen – available to anyone who will take him!
So with around £50-60m to spend, NESV are prepared to back the manager – you may not be Roy Hodgson if he does not win his next two league games – winnable fixtures versus Blackburn and Bolton. Potential players who have been linked
• Keisuke Honda – NESV are prepared to buy him whoever the manager is based on the commercial and merchandising opportunities in buying Japan's best and most popular player. Honda has been pursuing a move away from Russia and a bid in the region of £15m will be enough to do the deal.
• Michael Bradley – USA combative central midfielder.
• Lisandro Lopez – recently linked with £15m move
• Miroslav Klose – wants more regular football to be in contention for Euro 2012, I think he would be a superb signing - vastly experienced, relatively cheap, guaranteed goals.
• Phillip Mexes – currently contracted until summer 2011, and free to talk to clubs in January ahead of a Bosman move.
• Personally if we had around £25m to spend – Honda and Arda Turan. With Jovanovic used as a back-up striker.
• £50-60m – Honda, Arda, with Lassana Diarra and Luis Suarez. I CAN DREAM….
17 Oct 2010 20:34:06
Ed what would ya tink of Mick Mc Carthy as Our new manager? I think he'd do a fantastic job, without doubt Irelands best ever manager when it came to playing football and getting results, pity he got shafted by the FAI because of that traiter Roy Keane in Saipan. I know a lot of people would slate me for even suggesting it but i think his no nonsence approach is exactly what we need, he would have us playing attractive football with the added bonus of premiership experience.
{Editor's Note: Not for me.}
17 Oct 2010 20:33:32
Guus Hiddink to be next liverpool manager
17 Oct 2010 20:33:15
Thanks ed that's what i meant drenthe to play lb sorry
17 Oct 2010 20:33:12
17 Oct 2010 20:22:01
Click believe if you agree with my assesment of the squad players below.
Konchesky - Out of his depth
Maxi - Chicken with his head cut off
Cara - Sorry but past his best
Skrtel - Dodgy defender
Cole - Out of position
Torres - Head has been turned and on his way
Jovanovic - He wishes he never came
Kuyt - Out of position
Lucas - Liability
Babel - Had his chance
Ngog - Reserve striker at best
WOY - HAS GOT TO GO. . . .
King Kenny was behind the new owners today and his face was bitter for some reason. .he is usually quite upbeat, I wonder if he know's something. Like woy is on his way and they have lined up someone else. . .
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is this guy/ (possibly girl on that time of the month) bitter or what!?!. .
17 Oct 2010 20:33:00
RE: Paul konchesky.
we paid a english tax for a polish name. Fulham did better out of the deal, he is 29 and on his way out. never topclass player has couple of england caps. Luke young was no1 choice for our english tax, but our wage structure didn't help things.
Everton take a look in old first-divsion for a bargin buy or two. so why didn't liverpool? if we where going to get english player then must be better choices lower down
17 Oct 2010 20:32:43
I was happy at Roy's appointment but he has been a complete disappoint. I fully appreciate that the squad needs improving but no way do i think we should be in the bottom half of the league, let alone bottom 2. Roy seems to be spending more time admiring other managers than motivating the players. when the camera zoomed in on him he just looked like he had no clue. Ed, do you know whether roy has brought his own staff? Didnt rafa take quite a lot of his staff with him, so are there any coaches left?
17 Oct 2010 20:32:39
HODGSEN NEED TO STEP DOWN.
I WAS 1 OF MANY WHO BELIEVED IT WAS BETTER FOR BENITEZ TO LEAVE BUT
I AM 100% SURE THAT WITH BENITEZ WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS MESS.
carra is finished.he has done his job for us.
kirgiakos 2nil not bad
konchesky 2mil not lfc player
rodriguez 2mil not lfc player
lucas 6mil not lfc player
poulson 3mil not lfc player
skrtel 6mil not lfc player
kuyt 8mil getting old
babel 8mil mistery
arelio 1mil never plays
ngog loan too soon
spearing 2mil never plays
darby 1mil never plays
total 41mil
all these 13players won't play at any top 4 side.
thats the problem we have.
new owners need to spend 60mil.total 101mil
reina
kelly luiz agger taiwo
johnson carra mexes wilson
emanualson
banega gerrard
meireles shelvey
suarez cole elia
amoo pacheco jova
emanuelson
torres
strong defence
solid midfield
2 world class wingers
and torres.
luiz 20mil 21 years
taiwo 4mil 26 years
banega 12mil 23 years
suarez 24mil 24 years
elia 18mil 22 years
affelay free 23 years
mexes free def 28 years
emanuelson free mid 24 years
all young and better than we got.
this is a team that will put fear into all.
keep
johnson def
Carra def
meireles mid
wilson def
pacheco mid atack
shelvey mid
ince atack
amoo atack
jovanovic atack
ecclestone atack
and 20mil on 1 extra striker
lets see if these americans have the understanding if we buy young and class players now, we will only need to buy 1 player every season, even if we have the funds to buy we won't need too.
{Editor's Note: If that is what you are expecting in January I think that you will be disappointed.}
17 Oct 2010 20:32:24
Forget all the made up rumours of who we should sign because we can't sign anyone until January and then it is upto the manager who he wants and then then owners to agree to purchase the said players not daydreaming fans on rumour sites who do not know anything about how a football club is run behind the scenes.
The messages about boycotting the next game to get our new owners to sack the present manager are totally absurd get behind the present manager and support the team and hopefully results will improve. I am no happier than any lfc fan with regards to our present league position but I have the good sense to realise it is false and as soon as a few of our better players regain confidence we will climb back up the table
The worrying thing for me with ref to todays performance is that our second half showing was as good as we have played this season and with a bit of luck matters will improve. I still can't figure out why we have seen improvement in the second half of all our games so far this season , poss starting with wrong shape / pattern/ players from kick off ?
As the manager Roy is responsible for results but bringing in a new manager now is to early , wait until we get closer to jan transfer then explore this alternative if results under roy have still not improved.
Marco
17 Oct 2010 20:30:59
In the summer we didn't buy what was needed we should of kept insua never bought konchesky we should of sold babel and bought turan we should never have bought poulsen we should have bought benega we should of sold maxi and the greek and we should of been using ayala and kelly more and we should of got gallas on a free but we put our faith in roy the players he bought may have been good enough for fulham but not for liverpool we need to find a new fab four to go with the 3 class players we have reina torres when happy and gerrard then we can have a magnificent 7 and use 4 young players ot give them much needed experience and see if they can cut it at liverpool
17 Oct 2010 20:29:39
17 Oct 2010 19:13:22
To think Dalglish said non of the managers who was approached for Liverpool job simply aint good enough therefor he himself wanted the job.
Liverpool board said Dalglish isn't the right man and Hodgson was head and shoulders the best candidate and the right man for the job.
Fans were devided as half wanted Hodgson whilst other half Dalglish.
Hodgson was manager of the year last year as fulham got to their first UEFA final but couldn't win. Fulham finished 12th in the league. He had desastrous spells at Blackburn and Inter. His trophy cabinet is non. He's 63 so not going to be a long term appointment. Yet the board and half you fans said he's the perfect choice.
Dalglish- Aldridge stated that under his rein, Liverpool played the most attractive football ever.
He had great success with no Pryor experience as a manager. He was the last manager to win the league for Liverpool. At Blackburn he did wonders and is still one of only a few managers to have won the premiership. Newcastle wasn't the success story he wanted but then the fans turned against him early. [edit] Managerial honours
[edit] Liverpool
Football League First Division
Winner: 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90
Runner-up: 1986–87, 1988–89
FA Cup
Winner: 1986, 1989
Runner-up: 1988
Football League Cup
Runner-up: 1987
Charity Shield
Winner: 1988, 1989
Shared: 1986, 1990
[edit] Blackburn Rovers
FA Premier League
Winner(1): 1994–1995
Runner-up(1): 1993–1994
Football League Second Division Play Off
Winner(1): 1991–1992
Charity Shield
Runner-up(2):1993-94, 1994–95
[edit] Newcastle United
FA Premier League
Runner-up(1)1996–97
FA Cup
Runner-up(1):1998
17 Oct 2010 20:29:25
Don't be suprised when NESV appoint Klinsman as the new Manager if Roy fails to turn it around which he won't with his current philosophy. . .
Things will get better lets give new owners time, be patient my fellow Kopites
17 Oct 2010 20:27:03
I would love to see Roy Keane at liverpool football club as a coach but not as a manager, he just doesn't have it as a manager, but he one of the hardest faces in football. A look that can kill, but not much else these days.
I was wondering this. If the Mr Henry walked into the club and said here is £300million. You can pay rbs back or go out on a spending spree with the money.
Which one would you fans wanted.
17 Oct 2010 20:25:54
Ed- I agree that the manager must speak English, otherwise it's just another problem the team don't need. Another name to chuck in is Louis Van Gaal. He wants a crack at the PL, but I doubt Bayern Munich would be interested, even with their poor start to the season. You never know though.
17 Oct 2010 20:24:30
Why did we sign Paul konchesky. He looks and plays like a mannequin
17 Oct 2010 20:20:03
Ed wot do u think about roy keane along with king kenny {ed's note - not a chance, Keane is not someone I would want to see in charge of Liverpool.}
17 Oct 2010 20:14:48
RE:Roy should be sacked and before some one says that's not the Liverpool way, well that's why we havn't won the league in 20 years.
you do understand that the most successful clubs have been those with long term managers that have given the club something to build on.
The expection has been mourinho, but he spends like its going out of fashion for quick results.
Long term is the way to go, but is Roy the face lfc? i thought Roy Evans was fatrher figure at the club, but a easy push over and we have lost our way with houilers and beni's of this world. Although i did like houiler as a person.
Rafa was a world class manager, you've tasted 5star living, can the fans go back to fish and chips and doll money. Time for the club and fans to really look at where they are living and what is really possible.
Roy is your only hope.
17 Oct 2010 20:14:10
To the fans banging on about , how shankley did things or how paisley did things, how we don't need a big name manager, how things shud be done the liverpool way, i like every other lfc fan is very proud of the history this club has. . . but im sorry that's exactley what it is, history now, the game has evolved and left us behind, yes we need a BIG NAME manager and yes we need to buy BIG NAME players because the youth and reserve set up at liverpool is awfull, if players like ngog is the best the reserves has for competion for places then we are in huge trouble. how in one season can tottenham replace us in the big 4 how in one season can we go from title favorites to a mid table side? it cud take a decade to get the youth set up to be producing a steven gerrard, a robbie fowler, even a micheal owen. by which time our best players wud have left and other teams around us will be so far ahead of us they will never be caught. roy is not the man to take this club forward, as to give him 50m wud be the end of us. regardless of what people say about the previous owners, regardless of the money brought in from sales, rafa spent over 150m in his time, and roy spent over 20m in the summer. how can you justify spending 19m on robbie keane and sell him 6 months later for 12m, how can you justify 20m on aquilani, give him 10 games after a serious injury and say he is not up to it. i expect there to be mistakes made, but when players like poulsen are bein brought in and aquilani loaned out, i ask you this. . . if hodgson inherited a poor squad, then what will the next manager be getting if hodgson has 50m to spend. hodgson is no fool, and not a bad coach, but is his big enough to get to attention of the players, i believe that no player shud be bigger than the club or the manager, but times have changed, and because of player power and the high profiles these players have they are bigger than the management, and players will answer back these days, and refuse to play if they don't agree with tatics or team selection. im sure the players just like the fans were very underwhelmed by the appointment of roy. we need a jose mourinho, or a carlo ancellotti, because they are winners, we need a messi or a ronaldo because they are match winners.
its time to start a new history at liverpool, but never forgeting the old one. tradition and history does not win football matches, great players and great managers do.
upset red.
17 Oct 2010 20:14:00
Can we all stop talking about "martin o fckn neil". . .
the man is no good as a manager. . . . .ask the villa team. . lets give "WOY" a chance to steady the ship. . .he was never long term, he knew that from the onset.
clough jr or klinnsmann have been muted but my own preference would be leeds boss simon grayson. . . .that's unless JOHN DUBYA can prize the "special one" away from spain. . think he wants "cherry gob's" job tho. . . .please do not entertain even the thought of MON. . .skipping up and down in his tracki. . please god no. . at the moment we just are not clicking. . .we will.
king kenny07
17 Oct 2010 20:11:06
Need to act now, can't afford to give roy time as already nearly a quarter of the season gone and we're 19th. We can't be there come January and Roy still in charge with a transfer kitty, he won't attract anyone. Would of thought the players would have been inspired today after the takeover on Friday but there was nothing. I believe this is down to the manager, no offence to Roy but this is too big for him. I think getting Dalglish and Thommo until the end of the season would be a better option. At least they will install some heart and passion back in the team and Dalglish was an idol for Gerrard, he would be the real Gerrard again with Dalglish at the helm and also help inspire the team.
17 Oct 2010 20:10:21
Ed how long did it take the great bill shankley to make liverpool great {ed's note - he took over in 1959 and we didn't even get promoted to the top flight till '62. But then it only took him a couple of seasons to make us champions of England. It certainly didn't happen over night, but expectations were lower back then, he was allowed to just manage his way without fans screaming for his head from the moment he was appointed.}
17 Oct 2010 20:08:58
The only tranfer news we should be talking about is when is Woy going to be replaced, time is running out! . AT xmas last season we should have got rid of rafa then and brought in King kenny but we didn't have the guts to do so. Now we have new owners, it should be a simple decision.
"You lost to Everton, Its simple you have to go"
woy has had enough games to turn this around, look at Houllier. He's turned Heskey into a goal scorer again! change it now while there is time to stop LFC from being Relegated coz I can't see anything more then Relegation with woy. He's had long enough
Dark Red. .YNWA
17 Oct 2010 20:07:31
Something to think about. . . .Let me know if you agree or disagree. . .
Get rid quick:
Konchesky - Never was and never will be good enough. Should never have even been given the chance to wear the shirt.
Skyrtl - Form very poor since injuries. Not good enough.
Greek - Not good enough.
Maxi - Is this the same guy I watched for ages at Atl Madrid? Can't be. . Not good enough.
Poulson - Not good enough. What has Roy seen?
Ngog - Not good enough.
Lucas - Not good enough.
Javanovic - Not good enough.
Keep for time being to strengthen depth of squad, although not necessarily starting 11:
Johnson - what is going on here? Great player when confidence high and decent defenders to support his attacking style. . .
Miereles - Would give him a little more time, although I really haven't seen too much quality yet!
Kuyt - Works hard but. . . does he really have the quality as a wide player? Would possibly keep him as squad player and backup striker to Torres (after all, that is what attracted lots of teams to him when he was highest scorer in Dutch league! ). Needs real quality wingers to create chances though.
Carra - Getting old, but LFC through and through.
Agger - Deserves starting place if fit.
Aurelio - Best option at L/ B when fit. . .Says it all really. .
Babel - Needs to be given regular start in same position to prove once and for all whether he is good enough. At least he has pace, trickery and a decent shot - what does Maxi offer on R/ W?
Cole - Not justified wages yet, but needs more time to prove.
Kelly - Why not give the boy a chance? At least he is LFC through and through like Carra and Stevie.
Pacheco - is he going to be given a chance or what? And, I don't mean 15 minutes in every 3rd cup game. .
Starting place to build upon. . .
Riena, Torres, Gerrard - Need to stay and for the club to consolidate with quality around them. . .
Just goes to show how some players can be so sorely missed. . . Xabi, Msch. . .
So I make it that we need:-
2 x C/ B's.
New full backs.
Quality C/ Mid's capable of passing the ball to feet in a forward motion as it seems that only Stevie has that ability in this position at the moment.
Wingers with pace and technical ability who can actually take full backs on?
And at least one world class Striker to play alongside and as back up to Torres. . .
And most of all, a coach who is big enough for the job; one who will inspire, lead and breed high levels of confidence in the team (because Roy clearly doesn't. .)
Rant over. . .
God, I really hope we do see some changes soon. . .
17 Oct 2010 20:03:57
RE:Don't feel sorry for Hodgson if he is removed as manager
Well its not far on the man, he should be given 2 years in the game. He was going to become england manager, but decided to come here and help lfc.
He could of kept his nice job at fulham who i think could push on to something even better this year. So he risked alot to help out a club with a big name and nothing else in terms of talent or stablility off field.
He has gotten the club through the fire and now you guys want to burn him. You should take a hard look at those players on the pitch and the strengh of reserves. Hodgson was missold on the quality at the club. making his job even harder.
17 Oct 2010 20:01:38
Hi i think roy should be get going now and let the rebuilding start before its to late.we should try again for dechamps dats my 1st choice.and let torres go if we can squeze 80mil out of city we could get about 4-5 good players
17 Oct 2010 20:00:18
The truth is this : No matter who you are you could no do much better than the current manager.
Roy stood on the sidelines today as bemused as anyone with the poor performance first half. granted Everton were up for it big time today but we started to dictate the pace as the game wore on. . I really feel that you people who are jumping one the band wagon of calling for Roy's head are a little premature. the guy is not there a wet day and clearly has his own views on who should be brought into the club. . we did not back him during the summer for various reasons two of which are stook in a court room in Texas still ha ha. I convinced this is our storm and when we come out the far side of it we will be a serious contender! ! Ed, you views on this if you have the time. Thanks Malcolm {ed's note - I think it is the players that need to go. They are the ones that think they don't need to try and it is about time the club either give Roy complete backing or removed him. But if they remove him they have to give the new man complete backing, no matter what the players say. If need be get rid of the players, that is what United did to return to winning ways.}
17 Oct 2010 19:59:45
Qoute frm hodgeson:I don't think this is a crises? We played well?? The man is out of his depth he should never of got the job , but we had to giv him a chance. . . Now he's had his chance. Didn't back Torres against fergason , he puts players out ofposition an today linked with brunt WTF.n then he says it's not a crisis. Put Dalglish in there untill we find sum one big enough for the job. Somebody needs to let the new oweners no before it's to late
17 Oct 2010 19:54:29
Team we should look to start building.
Riena
Lahm. Agger. Skrtel. Tiawo
Kuyt. Meireles. Gerrard. Turan
Torres. Lopez
Look at that team! Would only cost aroud 70mil! Our bench could also be world class too.
Jones. Carragher. Lucas. Cole. Babel. Maxi. Wilson
17 Oct 2010 19:53:16
New owners, surely time for a new manager, , would you put money on us beating blackburn? or chelski
Roy is not the man, a huge mistake in selling to hicks and gillett , a huge mistake in appointing Hodgson , a good man yes but cannot grasp how big liverpool is, ok you say he had no money, but he bought Poulsen! and Konchesky! , which strikers could we have got for the 7/ 8 millions these two cost and why the reluctance to play agger hes better than the greek
17 Oct 2010 19:51:30
ARTETA according to stats, liverpool do well out these darby games. This is first time everton have won in a while because of all the off field issues
17 Oct 2010 19:49:51
It is simple RH has not realized he is at a winning club and not a club where surviving in the top league is the main priority. When was he last managing a top quality side, I gues in late 90's at Inter Milan where he was sacked in an year I guess.
He is a gentleman and I think has no command over the top world class players in the dressing room. It is difficult to nourish the ego of the likes of TORRES GERRARD and others when u r just a good manager and not a great one.
RH is a gentleman who wanted to share a glass of wine after the Man Utd game with SAF. He is too much of a gentleman. SAF has his ego above all at OT and Mourinho we know can bring the passion. the Inter Milan legend Herreira took to extremes the player to win those trophies and players obeyed him.
RAFA would stick with his players and defend them. He came out public with his rift with the then owners. That shows command of personality and that's what these arrogant spoilt professional players of today need or someone like KK who can command their respect because he is a legend.
I don't think anyone other than Rijkaard or Klinsman can get that respect and command from spoilt brats who cribbed for new owners. They did not want to play then and not now. I fail to understand what do they want. It is not the losses which hurt, it is sheer lack of passion on the pitch which goes up only after conceding.
We need a personality in the dressing room and not a gentleman. Believable or not, that is true.If u can not command respect u can't ask some one to do it for u
Go Klinsman or Rijkaard or MARADONA (atleast we get good football to watch)
17 Oct 2010 19:44:21
Martin Jol knows how to buy good players, but doesn't know how to manage those players. Thats dangous cause lfc don't want to spend but get more bang for buck on field.
17 Oct 2010 19:43:38
David Speedie 12 games 6 goals scored against utd and Everton why was he a bad signing? He left because he hated Souness fact. {ed's note - he was a bad signing because he was crap.}
17 Oct 2010 19:43:31
Roy should be sacked and before some one says that's not the Liverpool way, well that's why we havn't won the league in 20 years.
17 Oct 2010 19:42:23
Why don't lfc get a tony pulis kind of manager in. a real battler for points cause at this point in time we need a man who knows how to get us out of trouble and tony pulis can do that. Or Glen Hoddle always liked glen and he may understand why torres is soo retarded at the moment; because god wished it on him.lol
17 Oct 2010 19:41:58
"Dalglish? 2 words:
David
Speedie
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Don't forget 2 more words - JIMMY CARTER! !"
Or ten more. .
John Aldridge
John Barnes
Peter Beardsley
Steve McMahon
Ray Houghton
Every manager has bought duds here and there. But I think Kenny got more right than he got wrong!
Dirks Engine Room {ed's note - there is a few differences between the 5 you mentioned and the other 2. The 5 were Bob Paisley recommendations, the other 2 weren't.}
17 Oct 2010 19:41:57
Ed, forget your mate Seanie, it's never going to happen. The truth is there is far too much money at risk to take that kind of chance. Expect to see a tried and tested manager with CL experience, in the style of Del Bosque or Topmoller, don't rule out Hiddink. It won't be MON, he was in the frame when Rafa was appointed, but the rumour was the players (SG in particular) did not want him. Whoever it is will have to manage SG and Carra out if they want a clean start, those 2 have far too much say round the club {ed's note - I think Gerrard should have left years ago, no club should be built around one player like we have been.}
17 Oct 2010 19:41:15
Lets be real roy needs to go, he has zero ideas, and lets not be silly he has spent some money, Raul, Poulsen and j.cole (although no transfer fee there is a expensive contract). . im guessing that tots up to over 25million. I would have been happy with a top striker this summer and giving the lad Shelvey a chance instead of Poulsen and Raul!
So Roy needs to go, King Kenny is not the answer great as he is and was we need someone young, hungry and relevant. or at least someone who is currently managing at the top level and understands the massive pressures at the top!
We need a complete backroom change. . the big mistake Roy made was keeping the majority of the coaching and back room staff including Sammy Lee - anyone watching the game saw today him asking Sammy for advice on the subs. . together they do not have the quality to run LFC team.
Lets hope NEVS work out a terrific line up of potential managers and get there man cause i have a feeling they like us expect the best and currently we arent getting it!
Players need to do better as well, but they seem like a ship without a rudder!
YNWA
17 Oct 2010 19:41:07
Ed- Does Pellegrini even speak English? There aren't many cases of successful PL managers who don't (Ramos and Scolari being two recent examples). If language isn't important, why not Marcelo Lippi? I quite like the sound of Rijkaard or Klinsmann, and both could attract quality to the club. (Rijkaard could bring Turan with him). {ed's note - I don't actually know if Pellegrini speaks English, that is a very good point, one I never even considered. I would have to agree that if he doesn't that has to rule him out of consideration. Klinsmann was dreadful as a coach at Bayern and Rijkaard has hardly pulled up any trees since leaving Barca.}
17 Oct 2010 19:40:43
Would love king kenny to come in asap and bring Sami or didi with him. Every player knows all about kenny and what lfc means to him if they don't then they shouldn't be there. With Sami groomed into the job or didi we need to get back to ex players who want to become managers
17 Oct 2010 19:39:01
I keep hearingg the same nonsense for us to sign Gomez. Gomez who - WHAT HAS HE DONE? Why do ppl try linking us with dross! I 'll take Klose. For me the outs must be:
Johnson
Skrtel
Lucas
Babel
Poulsen
Maxi Rodriguez
Players we should be looking to buy:
Ashley Young
Dzeko
Van der Wiel (dutch intl)
Suarez
Gervhino
Benega
Afellay
Elija
Schweinsteiger
17 Oct 2010 19:38:11
I think babel played well 2day him and gerrard were the only two trying to beat players leave torres alone what striker could get goals in that team?torres is class i remeber drogba going through a the same thing at chelsea he got booed by his own fans so get behind torres we can help him and the team get back to winning ways if we all pull together so come on ynwa
king henry
17 Oct 2010 19:36:42
Ed would we have not be better having mark hughes in charge in the summer rather than roy hodgson {ed's note - I am not a fan of Hughes to be honest, he is another that would rather not lose than go out and try and win.}
17 Oct 2010 19:35:40
As badly as we're playing at the moment, i think it will only take upto 5 new signings to make us competitive again.
I would like to see the following positions strengthened.
1) Striker- A player from the following-
Llorente/ Aguero/ Dzeko
2 ) Two wingers from the following-
Turan/ Mata/ Elia/ Giovinco/ Ashley young
3) Centre Midfielder from
Defour/ Javi Martinez/ Melo/ Schweinsteiger
4) And a leftback
Taiwo/ Chiellini/ Monreal
I would sell Aurellio, Kyriagkos, Babel, one from Lucas or Poulsen, Maxi and N'Gog.
With this squad, and maybe a new manager, we'd be challenging on all fronts again.
Bring on january. . . . . . . {ed's note - you would take Melo yet you never mentioned Banega?}
17 Oct 2010 19:34:41
Don't feel sorry for Hodgson if he is removed as manager. £3m will be deposited in his Swiss Bank Account within 48 hours. Not bad for 3 and a half months work!
17 Oct 2010 19:34:35
I said everton would beat liverpool and now all of you out their now how bad liverpool are at the moment, Me and blair myers will get rich off of betting on liverpool to lose all season long. lol
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everyone knew that they would lose to Everton, you idiot (includes blair the mayne). .its like predicting the result of a chelsea - west ham match. .
ARTETA
17 Oct 2010 19:33:05
Hi guys before I start i'd just like to say i've been a Liverpool fan all my life!
I think its time all us Liverpool fans have a reality check. The days of us dominating and even competing in England and Europe are over! We have to be realistic we have to many second rate players how Lucas, Skrtel, Maxi and Konchesky play for us amazes me! These players are awful but still they get picked over talented youngsters!
The new owners will not pump money into the club and probably won't even build a stadium something we really need!
As for the management Hodgson should never have been appointed as manager the guy is out of his depth! I felt sorry for him today, I sat 4 rows away from him and he seemed clueless! An why was Sammy Lee ever brought back the players hate him!
What we fans need to do is lower our expectations for the next few years and become finanically secure and bring on the many talented youngsters we have like Pachero, Suso, Ayala, Shelvey, Wilson and Sterling to name a few!
This season will be difficult!
Y.N.W.A
17 Oct 2010 19:32:56
I don't think your right to blame Rafa for san Jose going back to spain Ed, wasnt it because he was behind Ayala and Kelly in the pecking order. and Rafa told him to work harder and as you have stated how highly you rate Ayala and Kelly.was Rafa wrong rating him behind them two? {ed's note - except that Rafa didn't even give either Ayala or Kelly a chance either. So he basically told San Jose he wasn't good enough and was never going to get a game or that was how Mikel saw it. The whole youth set up were getting completely disillusioned under Rafa, but him buying Kyrgiakos rather than giving Ayala a run killed off the hopes of many.}
17 Oct 2010 19:32:55
Ed who could liverpool get in the jan transfer market do you think and who should we sell {ed's note - I have said many time I would buy Honda and Sanchez if the money is there mate. They are both available for the right money, and Valencia are still in money troubles so Banega and Mata have to be looked at. I would get rid of Kyrgiakos, Skrtel, Johnson, Poulsen and Babel if it was up to me.}
17 Oct 2010 19:32:40
This Hodgson tactic to play the first half as if we are scared of big old everton, wba or birmingham. I see it alot with this side. They have a tactic of wasting time for 45minutes trying to pass pointless balls to get the clock down, which really is playing in to most teams hands.
The second half we come out to win the game and start playing football, but by that time lfc are already 2 goals down from first half because the crap tactics and ball wasting hodgson deploys. Whats the point.
Hodgson is trying force the players to lose.
17 Oct 2010 19:30:56
Martin Jol should get the job next summer.
17 Oct 2010 19:30:43
Torres performs when he gets service. If we think back to it, who was sold before we fell in oblivion? Xabi Alonso? Arguably the smartest footballer of his time. We should have never have sold him. Heads dropped after that. In January we need to sign a player like Xabi, some like Xavi or Iniesta that type. Im not naming names because its silly to do that and also a striker. I was thinking Adebayor as he is out of sorts at City and would be a good tall strike partner for Torres if he was to stick around. Maybe in the summer bring in Carraghers replacment, hate to say it but he's lost it, all of it. Only thing he has now is his dignity and pride. Ed's I want to know to players you want to sign and how you would set the team out to play and to win! {ed's note - the ones I want to sign are Honda, Sanchez, and Banega. I would recall Ayala, if possible and I would play him alongside Wilson or if he can't be recalled I would stick with Carra alongside Wilson. Kelly would be my choice of right back, with Konch on the left for the next few, but if his performances don't improve I would give Mavinga or Robinson a try. I would stop this ludicrous defensive midfield role and have two proper central midfielders in Meireles and Gerrard (though Gerrard would have to work harder on the defensive end to keep his place). Sanchez wide right, Honda on the left and Cole in behind Torres. Carragher would be club captain for me, not Gerrard. As the defence would be quicker I would want them to defend higher up the pitch and ask Reina to sweep behind them like Grob used to. That would allow the midfield to play higher up the pitch and be more threatening. They need to play a lot more 6 a side matches to improve their quick passing as well.}
17 Oct 2010 19:28:50
According to wikkipedia when nesv took over the red sox they replaced the gm and the manager in the 2002 season. then in the 2003 season they again replaced the gm, ok that's baseball! so i wonder what they have planned for us, as john henry said nesv are here to win;
they have specialists who study stats, so i am sure they will do whatever it takes to stop the losing trend since the start of the season!
17 Oct 2010 19:27:37
17 Oct 2010 19:20:34
Dalglish? 2 words:
David
Speedie
- - - - - - - - - - - -
Don't forget 2 more words - JIMMY CARTER! !
17 Oct 2010 19:26:33
RE: O'Neill - what a personal attack on Oneil
I personally like the way Oneil plays 90minutes with the players he has got. Using Size and Strengh upfront. working the set-plays, corners, know how to defend corners. He plays the 90minutes by odds, knowing how to get corners and freekicks with average prem players.
He has done a great job at aston villa, but i wouldn't call him a cheque book manager. Beni was a cheque book manager and he wasted millions on players that now have left the club
17 Oct 2010 19:25:17
Hodgson has to go i, m so upset by his Sky interview that this was the best performance by the players since has been in charge what the f*ck is this man on or who was he watching. Only one man for LFC is Jose Mourinho
17 Oct 2010 19:23:32
All these rumours of a new manager are starting to get worse they will suggest kevin keegan next let the club move forward shanks did it all those years ago with hard work and know how things will get better
17 Oct 2010 19:23:06
In his first 13 games in charge of Fulham Woy's team took 9 points! Then went on a charge to avoid relegation.
I think the run needs to start from the next league game!
17 Oct 2010 19:21:30
I said everton would beat liverpool and now all of you out their now how bad liverpool are at the moment, Me and blair myers will get rich off of betting on liverpool to lose all season long. lol
I wonder if Gerrard and Torres are in a pact to see liverpool relegated from the premiership so they can retire to sunny spain with out lfc fan come back and gangster threats. Only one way out for those two and that is to burn club down.
17 Oct 2010 19:20:34
Dalglish? 2 words:
David
Speedie
17 Oct 2010 19:19:43
Well a truly disappointing first half performance. depressing.
2nd half was much better but we lacked the ability to convert our passes to goals.
The faults that lie in our team were clear to see.
1) Maxi is not fit to be a winger (or a liverpool player for that matter, we only needed cover and hes done quite poorly)
2) Joe Cole is no left midfielder. He was very preditictive as he kept cutting in and then crossing in with his right foot, he is better off playing in the attack midfielder creative role just off torres where he does quite brilliantly.
3) Babel needs to be tried on the right as his few minutes on the pitch showed vigour and a good ability.
4) Jovanovic needs to start on the left for us. his dashing run when he came in was quite well pulled off.
Skrtel is juss a waste. i would have started kelly, man for f*cks sake that really pissed me off when he wasnt in the starting line-up. carra and krygiakos (not the best but still) would have done better in defence today with kelly on the right. .! !:@
Also, next 2 league games are blackburn at home and bolton away. also the europa napoli games.
Roy should get all 6 points off the league games and atleast 4 in the europa. if not, Henry should get rid of him and Sammy Lee and get someone temporarily in charge until we can get a quality, well proven, young (45 yr old MAX) manager to lead us to the top and be trusted with the transfer money.
Managers shortlist: (my opinion)
KLINSMANN (no.1)
rijkaard
Di Matteo
And i don't know how good the manager Ed is suggesting but il trust you (ed) on it. :)
Sorry for the longass message.
RedSox69 {ed's note - cheers mate, I have seen a lot of O'Driscoll and he impresses me. He has worked wonders with Donnie and deserves a chance in the top flight, he will have to work miracles to get it there!}
17 Oct 2010 19:18:54
It seems to me Roy Hodgson lacks ambition whatsoever. How can you say Liverpool were unlucky today? How can you say that the team played very well? How can you say that all we need to do is keep playing like today? Well. , Roy just said it. What I liked about Rafa was that no matter how good we were in certain games, he always saw room for improvement.
RHI
17 Oct 2010 19:17:03
Outs
the greek
skrtel
konchesky
poulsen
babel
lucas
maxi
kuyt
aquilani who we loaned out to juve
degan who we loaned out
el zhar who we loaned out
insua who we loaned out
this should bring in at least 30 million and if the new owners added 50 million we should find some quality in jan
17 Oct 2010 19:16:56
We are playing worse than the early 1990s Souness management era.
17 Oct 2010 19:14:26
{ed's note - Shankly, Paisley and Fagan were not big name appointments, Souness, Houllier and Rafa were. I would rather avoid the big name managers and get the players brought back down to earth and reminded that they play for Liverpool Football Club and if they don't like the manager, tough! Their job is to play football not choose managers. O'Neill has chosen to buy average players because he can't spot a good one, he is a chequebook manager with no clue how to get the best from a squad. He was not good enough for a club whose sole aspiration is to try and qualify for the Europa League, he is certainly not good enough to lead a team looking to win trophies.}
ED) i think your totaly wrong about o'niel he was doing an awsome job at villa before, he was forced into selling his best players, look at the player milner has begun, he bought warnock who couldnt get a game under rafa and look at ashey young.
MON is exactly what liverpool need {ed's note - an awesome job? Playing long ball football, buying crap like Reo-Coker on immense wages then never playing them. Selling his best players? You mean like Young, Carew, Petrov, Downing etc? He was forced to sell one player because Villa received a ludicrous offer for him. MON is not a good manager, he got Wycombe into serious trouble through his constant demands for more money to buy players and then walked out on them when told there wasn't any more money. He got Leicester into serious difficulties by constantly demanding more money for players and then walking out on them when there was no more and now he has done it to Villa. He is an average manager for an average team with the arrogance to believe he is some kind of genius even though I have seen 2 watt bulbs that are brighter.}
17 Oct 2010 19:13:22
To think Dalglish said non of the managers who was approached for Liverpool job simply aint good enough therefor he himself wanted the job.
Liverpool board said Dalglish isn't the right man and Hodgson was head and shoulders the best candidate and the right man for the job.
Fans were devided as half wanted Hodgson whilst other half Dalglish.
Hodgson was manager of the year last year as fulham got to their first UEFA final but couldn't win. Fulham finished 12th in the league. He had desastrous spells at Blackburn and Inter. His trophy cabinet is non. He's 63 so not going to be a long term appointment. Yet the board and half you fans said he's the perfect choice.
Dalglish- Aldridge stated that under his rein, Liverpool played the most attractive football ever.
He had great success with no Pryor experience as a manager. He was the last manager to win the league for Liverpool. At Blackburn he did wonders and is still one of only a few managers to have won the premiership. Newcastle wasn't the success story he wanted but then the fans turned against him early. [edit] Managerial honours
[edit] Liverpool
Football League First Division
Winner: 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90
Runner-up: 1986–87, 1988–89
FA Cup
Winner: 1986, 1989
Runner-up: 1988
Football League Cup
Runner-up: 1987
Charity Shield
Winner: 1988, 1989
Shared: 1986, 1990
[edit] Blackburn Rovers
FA Premier League
Winner(1): 1994–1995
Runner-up(1): 1993–1994
Football League Second Division Play Off
Winner(1): 1991–1992
Charity Shield
Runner-up(2):1993-94, 1994–95
[edit] Newcastle United
FA Premier League
Runner-up(1)1996–97
FA Cup
Runner-up(1):1998
17 Oct 2010 19:10:20
Look at Chelsea. When Jose Mourinho got fired, Chelsea were absolutely rubbish. Avraam Grant was brought on, and almost won the title. When Luiz Felipe Scolari got fired, Chelsea was rubbish. Guus Hiddink was brought in, and turned their season around. We can apply that same principle here by firing that clown Roy Hodgson. But who should we bring in? Kenny Dalglish or Manuel Pellegrini?
17 Oct 2010 19:10:15
IMO I think we should let RH & SL go, get in KK as caretaker along with Thompson or Hansen.
Hold fire until next summer with the possibility of buying a few players in the Jan window (depending on what NESV make available) then reassess the situ in the summer, putting out the feelers for management and players. Just get us to a safety level for the summer clear out. Ed what do you think?
Lee {ed's note - I don't think Kenny is the answer, I really don't want to risk him losing his greatness.}
ed I think Kenny is so massive with the fans he will never lose his greatness with them.
Sooty {ed's note - I know a few that have never forgiven him for leaving the first time round, believe me he could easily lose the respect he has earnt.}
17 Oct 2010 19:05:49
Not a rumour - a fact
everyone except liverpool fans think it is hilarious the state liverpool are in - we've won the champ league you all cry. very good, well done. you havnt won your domestic league for years, you won't challange for at least another 10 years. your a mid table club now. the big 5 (man u, man city, chelsea, arsenal, n spurs) well out of reach now. man u won't even call your tie a derby any more due to fact your not even close! enjoy your 5 trophies
the tiger - laughing out loud at the arrogant scouse!
how sad are you there's nothing in the league we will get out of the mess were in it will take time but we will and who cares about the scum their playing great at the min ha they are nothing without rooney and he be gone come summer and who do you follow you didn't have the guts to say, il guess its hull going by your name, and i realy did laugh out loud at your post, thanks :))
17 Oct 2010 19:05:19
Listen guys, lets wake up and smell the coffee, Roy is a good man and a good manager and will get it right in time but unfortunatley we haven't got time, this is starting to smell of Nottingham Forest.
Kenny Dalglish needs to be brought in now with Mr Rush as his right hand man. Kenny, although out of top flight football for a couple of years, is brilliant at motivating players and team tactics, you tell him a player and he can tell u who he plays for and what position, he knows everybody, Ian Rush I gather has turned out to be quite a useful coach so will fit in well, I would also try and persuade Paco to return to us as he is a brilliant coach. We can't go down guys, so we must act now.
Sooty
17 Oct 2010 19:03:57
To the guy who posted this:
Not a rumour - a fact
everyone except liverpool fans think it is hilarious the state liverpool are in - we've won the champ league you all cry. very good, well done. you havnt won your domestic league for years, you won't challange for at least another 10 years. your a mid table club now. the big 5 (man u, man city, chelsea, arsenal, n spurs) well out of reach now. man u won't even call your tie a derby any more due to fact your not even close! enjoy your 5 trophies
the tiger - laughing out loud at the arrogant scouse!
LFC have one bad season and start poorly the next, then all the non supporters are calling us mid table? I don't get it surely everyteam has a bad season now and then! You'll be silenced once they bounce back. Enjoy it while it lasts.
SPURS in the top 5! I presume you mean league position at present?
Early days yet mate, once the new owners assess the situ, things will change. Like i said the other day, all the Chelsea, Man u lot will be worrying now. Arsenal well they just make up the numbers in the top 5. but Spurs, lol that's a good one. lol
Ed you take on this persons comments?
Lee {ed's note - no mate, he is just anti-Liverpool, strange that a Rangers fan should be so bothered about a team that are not even playing in the same league as his team. I take it as a compliment that he gets so worked up about us myself.}
17 Oct 2010 19:03:11
All i feel liverpool, have to do is sign:
sign young for around 15m to create some width, some1 who has pace can beat a man and get some crosses in box.
Contreao, portugese left back also 15m was quality at world cup defensively and going forward.
Possibly keep a hold of aqua when his loan expires, i still believe he is a man who cud do a job for us.
Reina
Johnson Agger Carra Contreao
Meireles Aqua
Young Gerrard Cole
Torres
its a team that could get top 4
17 Oct 2010 18:58:34
{ed's note - if they are then we are well and truly f* * *!} Gotta agree with Ed here. . O'Neil = Most over rated manager in club football EVER! but our options are short. . KK a must until a top class manager can come in
17 Oct 2010 18:58:28
I hate the idea of sacking a manager so early in the season. It doesn't seem the Liverpool way. I truly hope Roy turns things around, but I admit it looks grim for him. It wouldn't mind so much if there was an obvious, outstanding candidate ready to step in tomorrow. Problem is I can't think of one yet. However, history tells us that John Henry is not affraid to act quickly and decisively. That is why he's been so successful. {ed's note - is Pellegrini still out of a job?}
17 Oct 2010 18:56:39
Ed, I am sure am not the only one that agrees with most that u say so when u answers a rumour why not a believe unbelieve and Ed note button , make thing very easy, p.s great job this week , keep it up {ed's note - you mean put a separate button up to vote on the note? That's not a bad idea if it is what you meant.}
exactly what i mean , :-) {ed's note - I will add it to the to-do list, there are only a few thousand things on there now lol.}
17 Oct 2010 18:56:34
IMO I think we should let RH & SL go, get in KK as caretaker along with Thompson or Hansen.
Hold fire until next summer with the possibility of buying a few players in the Jan window (depending on what NESV make available) then reassess the situ in the summer, putting out the feelers for management and players. Just get us to a safety level for the summer clear out. Ed what do you think?
Lee {ed's note - I don't think Kenny is the answer, I really don't want to risk him losing his greatness.}
17 Oct 2010 18:56:01
17 Oct 2010 17:30:25
I feel sorry for Roy, I really do, he has inherited a very poor squad and was given peanuts to buy new players before the window shut. They lack ability and certainly lack confidence. Today was a shambles; ive just got back from the game and the talk was that Torres and Gerrard are defo to go in January with a possibility that Reina might go to Arsenal. We have to survive till January anyway and the feeling from Fridays takeover, has disappeared into reality, that these are desperate days.
To the person who wrote this in case ye havent noticed, Roy spent 22 million plus Joe Cole on £90k a week this summer on dross. He inherited a squad that finished 7th (an under achievemnt) and has them level bottom of the league. I don't feel sorry for Roy at all, this is all of his making
17 Oct 2010 18:52:53
Ed
You're being harsh to martin O neill, ok he wouldn't be the ideal pick, but he has been a success at each club with very average players at his disposal. I do feel Roy and Lucas out of their depth in liverpool lovely guys but not what we need at lfc.
I take your point about Sean o driscoll but in all honesty he is not what gerrard, carra and reina are going to be inspired by. We need a top quality man to inspire the team and I think of a english/ scot/ irish region as no language barrier for both team and owners if they are going to listen. We said at the start Roy will bring the best out of players but in truth that simply is not happening and we are in trouble. Roy said Babel would get a chance but yet again came on with 10 minutes to go. Pacheco not even on the bench and yet Everton showing how to use their youth with coleman having a great game today. So we are not being managed in the right way but I can't put a name on who should be manager.
So all you LFC fans give suggestions
. {ed's note - Shankly, Paisley and Fagan were not big name appointments, Souness, Houllier and Rafa were. I would rather avoid the big name managers and get the players brought back down to earth and reminded that they play for Liverpool Football Club and if they don't like the manager, tough! Their job is to play football not choose managers. O'Neill has chosen to buy average players because he can't spot a good one, he is a chequebook manager with no clue how to get the best from a squad. He was not good enough for a club whose sole aspiration is to try and qualify for the Europa League, he is certainly not good enough to lead a team looking to win trophies.}
17 Oct 2010 18:52:37
17 Oct 2010 18:39:39
Just to put everyone in a worse mood. If you tune into Sky Sports 1, there's a centre half playing for Bilbao used to be on our books! £2.7 million San Jose was sold for. Looks every bit as good as anything we have on show. Unbelievable.
The Irish Rover {ed's note - I really liked San Jose, but that one is not Roy's fault - Rafa was the reason he left.}
Yeah, I know that Ed! Still sticks in your throat tho when you see him strolling about making the game look easy then you watch the rabble we have to endure.
The Irish Rover {ed's note - yeah, I was just pointing it out before that was used as a stick against Roy and to point out how wonderful Rafa was etc. I wish we had kept that lad, he can actually pass the ball as well!}
17 Oct 2010 18:51:27
Did anyone see roy smiling and laughing after the game, was that with embarrasment or is he taking the piss out of us, you decide
17 Oct 2010 18:49:38
To the guy who posted this:
17 Oct 2010 17:39:30
Can you imagine Henry and Hodgson after the game,
Henry - "Tell me again Roy, who were the international players on the pitch for us today?"
Woy - "Well to be honest, nearly all of them"
Henry - " And we can swap players on the pitch at any time?"
Woy - " Yes, anytime"
Henry - " and who decides on this?"
Woy - "Well, I do"
Henry - "Who tells the players on how to play the game?"
Woy - "That'll be me again"
Henry - "Do you get any help with this? who was that little fella you were talking to?"
Woy - "Thats Sammy Lee, been at Liverpool for quite a while, my right hand man"
Henry - "So, I hope I have got this right, you and Sammy pick the team, tell them how to play and make decisions on when to make substitutions I think you call it?"
Woy - "That just about sums it up, yea"
Henry - "have you done this job before Roy?"
Woy - "Well yes, I have been a manager for 20 odd years now"
Henry - "On Monday come into my office, oh! and bring Sammy with you and we can go over the business of Fxxking both of you off, and you can take the rest of the so called internationals with you"
lol Excellent
Lee
17 Oct 2010 18:45:21
Hicks and Gillet must be p"ssing themselves. 300 million seems like a good deal now.
Hodgson- people say it's rediculaus to judge him after 8 games and he inherited Raffiel Benitez team.
Well my answer is. The players don't seem to want to play for him. His record before his appointment simply ain't good enough and no manager should be hired by one good cup run( he diddnt win it though). Hodgson's buys are poor at best. His formation and style are confusing and his non support for his players ( Torres from attack from Fergusion)are non existent.
How much time should we give him? A full season of religation battle? Christmas relegation battle?
Benitez would have at least got us higher in the league by now. This is Liverpool! We shouldn't be 19th in the league. Any other manager would have been slaughtered by now.
Maybe bring in Dalglish to restore confidence thoughout the club an fans. I can't see us getting a champions league place under Hodgson and therefor end of Torres Liverpool career. Blackpool today showed the team spirit a determination Liverpool had many years ago. O'neil isn't the right man for us either.
17 Oct 2010 18:45:03
Roy Hodgson says it would be "a sad day for Liverpool" if the club's new owners abandoned the Anfield tradition of loyalty to managers and dismissed him after the team's worst start to a season for 57 years.
Why did he say that, sounds a bit desperate to me. But other managers wernt 19th after 8 matches (PATHETIC)! !
Harry5
in reply to the above,
"a sad day for liverpool" well roy it seems every match day is a sad day for liverpool! the team and us fans feel like we are going to loose before the match even starts, i think its roys lack of confidence that's hindering the team, no more excuses please!
17 Oct 2010 18:44:38
At the end of last season i remember having a rant with a fellow lfc fan about how i wanted to see rafa go, and all he said to me was. . "be carefull what you wish for". .i just laughed at him and said "as if any new manager would do worse than 7th?. . . . . how wrong i was and how i miss rafa YNWA
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
This stage last year we had played 8, won 5, lost 3 = 15 points and many people criticised Rafa. We would be sitting second this season with the same results.
I wasn't the person arguing the point with you but I have said all along that we should not have pushed Rafa out the door and Roy was definitely the wrong person to replace him.
I say sack Roy now and pull out all the stops to persuade Gus Hiddink to take the post
Fabian Treezle
17 Oct 2010 18:42:52
Ed, I am sure am not the only one that agrees with most that u say so when u answers a rumour why not a believe unbelieve and Ed note button , make thing very easy, p.s great job this week , keep it up {ed's note - you mean put a separate button up to vote on the note? That's not a bad idea if it is what you meant.}
17 Oct 2010 18:42:43
Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple." this certainly didn't apply today, get Harry Rednapp to turn us around, Believe or unbelievable red gold {ed's note - Redknapp? Are you insane? We may as well just get Gary Neville in as get 'Arry in! The man writes for the S*n - any Liverpool fan calling for him is a disgrace end of.}sorry ed idont know much about Redknapp only that he turns teams around and i know even less about the sun , who do u think could make us force on the pitch again? {ed's note - you really should read up on Hillsborough and why the S*n is hated, then you will understand why it would be shameful to have a manager who writes for them. My first choice would be O'Driscoll, Pellegrini or Michael Laudrup, failing that it would Di Matteo.}
Hillsborough is the reason i choose not to know anything about the Sun , good manager choices redgold
17 Oct 2010 18:42:20
Did anyone else see Roy smiling & laughing as he shook Moyes hand at the end of the game
That says it all to me.
Scallywag
17 Oct 2010 18:39:39
Just to put everyone in a worse mood. If you tune into Sky Sports 1, there's a centre half playing for Bilbao used to be on our books! £2.7 million San Jose was sold for. Looks every bit as good as anything we have on show. Unbelievable.
The Irish Rover {ed's note - I really liked San Jose, but that one is not Roy's fault - Rafa was the reason he left.}
17 Oct 2010 18:39:28
Just seen woy interview i walked out before final whistle.I THINK HE KNOWS HES GONE.HOPEFULLY
17 Oct 2010 18:39:23
- - - - - - - - reina- - - - - - - -
-richards- ayala- agger- coentrao
- - - -gerrard- - gago- - banega
navas- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - turan
torres
Micah Richards -7m
Fabio Coentrao - 17m
Gago - 8m - - - - a must buy, bargain imo
banega -20m
navas- 17m
turan - 12m
81m
17 Oct 2010 18:38:50
Have to agree with the ed's the Greek and skrtel absolute joke. Has someone got ayalas phone give em a buzz and tell to get his kit on. Kelly hasn't disappointed at all when he has played. Wats wilsons story like he isn't gettin a sniff and when he has he's been played left back. Bring in moving, wisdom to be blood in also stick Pacheco up top we don't seem to trust the young kids anymore not like we did with the fowlers etc. . I've hit a new low today.
Fowler is god
17 Oct 2010 18:38:34
Send for the men in White suits Woy has lost his marbles! !
To say that was our best performance this season just shows how Roy is losing it. We were w* k every single player and infront of the new owners how embarrasing.
Let's stop talking s* t and deal with the issues at Liverpool.
These new owners are no muppets they are business men they are here to win things and to be the best in the business so how ling do u think they will put up with this?
They are already aware that the club needs a major overall throughout but they also realise that they cannot aford to WAIT.
I know f*ck all about baseball but I am sure if I went to a match and so a blue team take the piss out of a red team like I av today I would think "Jesus" the team in red are Really poor.
Hence these guys will act quickly don't expect them to wait cos Roy is a lovely bloke and he's been in football for 35 years Sentiment counts for nothing.
Roy will need 7 - 9 pts from the next 3 games to keep his job anything less and it's back to tv pundit duty.
I personally would sack him now!
RedAk1
17 Oct 2010 18:38:21
It is clear to me Roy hodgson is a very decent man but this job is too big for him. The players are not playing for him. Simple 5 yard passes were not been madesuccessfully for heaven sake. I am sorry but he will probably have to go honourably under the preface that the new owners wanting their own man.
17 Oct 2010 18:36:26
Bring back rafa!
17 Oct 2010 18:36:03
{ed's note - my personal choice would be Doncaster Rovers manager Sean O'Driscoll. His teams play fantastic football, he is young and hungry and looking to build a dynasty not just a quick fix.}
You also said something about giving Roy a month, I disagree with both; and I'll start with Roy should be leaving now(maybe should 've few weeks ago as I have been saying), another month is too late, I really can't see any improvement, if he can't pump them up for a derby (most of them been there before), then not sure if he can for anything . he is not good enough to deal with them and any Liverpool manager that talk about a "relegation fight" should n't be a Liverpool manager, some one need to tell him he in not at Fulham or Blackburn . .
About the replacement, I would want a young hungry manager, for me Matteo is better , he is an experienced footballer at the highest level, he can get the respect of the players straight away, someone like O'Driscoll will have to work very hard to get that respect and he will end up in the same situation as Roy .
Roy please do the decent thing and go and take Sami with you, good guy but Liverpool is way above your head .
Its so painful . I don't want top 4 , even top 6 , but want liverpool to be in the top half of the table where they should be.
Roy {ed's note - I am sorry but if the players haven't got respect for whoever is appointed then they should be sacked. If they are such pathetic spoilt little brats that they think they have a right to pick and choose who they play for then get rid. The Derby is not a match that any manager should have to get the players up for - they should be up for it on their own and if they can't then they have no right to be at the club.}
17 Oct 2010 18:35:06
Hodgson needs to go all does is exactly what benitez did 4-5-1
We need a 4-4-2 Or 4-1-3-2
January/ summer we need a CAM, CB, SS, LM/ RM
CAM:HAMSIK, GOURCUFF(moved in summer though),
DIEGO
CB:ROGER JOHNSON, GARY CAHILL
SS:L.SUAREZ, GIGNAC(moved in summer), EDIN DZEKO
LM/ RM:TURAN, A.YOUNG, MARIN, BASTOS, MILOS KRASIC
17 Oct 2010 18:35:06
When Rafa was in charge, he set up teams to control the game, it was his favourite quote after games. We have not controlled a game this season, we are being passed through at will, even by Blackpool. The ball is just not sticking up front because we have nobody capable of holding it, NGog is a lightweight, get rid of him and Lucas cannot pass the ball into a player's stride to maintain momentum. Now it looks like where 2 years ago we just needed a forward, this year we need a defence, a midfield and a forward. .pitiful today. Break the bank to get Xabi back!
17 Oct 2010 18:34:42
"Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple." this certainly didn't apply today, get Harry Rednapp to turn us around, Believe or unbelievable red gold {ed's note - Redknapp? Are you insane? We may as well just get Gary Neville in as get 'Arry in! The man writes for the S*n - any Liverpool fan calling for him is a disgrace end of.}
sorry ed idont know much about Redknapp only that he turns teams around and i know even less about the sun , who do u think could make us force on the pitch again ? {ed's note - you really should read up on Hillsborough and why the S*n is hated, then you will understand why it would be shameful to have a manager who writes for them. My first choice would be O'Driscoll, Pellegrini or Michael Laudrup, failing that it would Di Matteo.}
17 Oct 2010 18:33:39
What a absolute disgrace, we had no passion no direction, I have a feeling they don't want to play for Hodgson. Please bring in Kenny New owners new manager clean slate. Before my beloved Liverpool are playing in the Championship.
17 Oct 2010 18:32:35
Not a rumour - a fact
everyone except liverpool fans think it is hilarious the state liverpool are in - we've won the champ league you all cry. very good, well done. you havnt won your domestic league for years, you won't challange for at least another 10 years. your a mid table club now. the big 5 (man u, man city, chelsea, arsenal, n spurs) well out of reach now. man u won't even call your tie a derby any more due to fact your not even close! enjoy your 5 trophies
the tiger - laughing out loud at the arrogant scouse!
17 Oct 2010 18:29:11
Hello ed, i was unable to watch the game today can you inform me what our performance was like and who was our 2 best players?
west midland scouse {ed's note - we were awful, I am having real difficulty picking 2 players, I can't say that a single player played well. Meireles and Carragher were probably the best two, I am sure plenty of people will say Gerrard but I thought he was incredibly lazy today - spent most of the match standing round with his hands on hips watching when we didn't have the ball. The whole team allowed themselves to be bullied out of the match, they were kicked off the ball, Heitinga hurt himself kicking too many people after the ball went I think. Cahill spent the whole match apologising to Carra after fouling him, yet not one was given by Webb. It was a bit of a shambles being honest.}
17 Oct 2010 18:28:47
Has anyone looked back at some games we played just a couple of seasons ago? Two defeats in a whole season! It breaks my heart to see the lack of passion from this team. .I don't care how big your name is or how much money you earn just play with some passion and love for the red shirt! We seem to have a team of the Houllier elk. .players that will vanish from the history books. Not one of them would make it into a premiership 11. Please get us a manager that skillful players want to come and play for and attack teams at home/ away like their life depended on it. This team clearly doesn't want to play for Roy or his message just isn't sinking in. .At least with Rafa he did things his way. He inherited an even worse team from Houllier and look what he did! From a desperately depressed red. . Red Beard
17 Oct 2010 18:25:50
"Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple." this certainly didn't apply today, get Harry Rednapp to turn us around, Believe or unbelievable red gold {ed's note - Redknapp? Are you insane? We may as well just get Gary Neville in as get 'Arry in! The man writes for the S*n - any Liverpool fan calling for him is a disgrace end of.}
17 Oct 2010 18:24:42
I know we were bad and there is no excuse fot it but can someone tell me did howard webb catch his wife in bed with a liverpool fan because every game he refs us in he's fu'#*i&g awful
hipkop07
17 Oct 2010 18:24:33
At the moment?! he lost his edge a few seasons back. agger is injured yes but what about playing kelly and skrtel as the cb pairing or even kelly and wilson? atleast we could push up as we'd have some much needed pace. {ed's note - I would prefer to recall Ayala if possible, or give Wilson, Wisdom, Mavinga, in fact anyone other than Skrtel.}
i fully agree with ayala, i just didn't include him because he's on loan. absolutely top class in pre season and id love to see him paired with agger. a perfect example of using the youngsters. where was glen johnson and poulsen today as well? {ed's note - Johnson was injured again and Poulsen was out on compassionate grounds.}
17 Oct 2010 18:16:50
This city has two great teams - Liverpool and Liverpool reserves." enjoy the win blue noses, as shocking as we were you could only manage 2 goals redgold
17 Oct 2010 18:15:36
I just tweeted john henry now. Asking him to terminate roy's contract as he lacks ideas and creativity and is too defensive.
You guys can follow suit and flood him with tweets.
17 Oct 2010 18:14:53
At the end of last season i remember having a rant with a fellow lfc fan about how i wanted to see rafa go, and all he said to me was. . "be carefull what you wish for". .i just laughed at him and said "as if any new manager would do worse than 7th?. . . . . how wrong i was and how i miss rafa YNWA
Tipster
17 Oct 2010 18:14:16
{Editor's Note: Carragher has lost his edge at the moment. Agger is injured and we can only wait to see what happens when he is fit again. I'd like to see more of Kelly in defence and would give Amoo a chance as well.}
at the moment?! he lost his edge a few seasons back. agger is injured yes but what about playing kelly and skrtel as the cb pairing or even kelly and wilson? atleast we could push up as we'd have some much needed pace. {ed's note - I would prefer to recall Ayala if possible, or give Wilson, Wisdom, Mavinga, in fact anyone other than Skrtel.}
17 Oct 2010 18:13:42
Okay, I've watched the highlights of the game and have determined our weak points (which were pretty obvious in the first place, I'm just clarifying):
1) We need a completely new defence - Carragher is the only one that tries, Skrtel is getting worse and worse - he's all over the place at the moment, Agger is good but never fit, same with Aurelio. And Johnson's like one of those Predators - for every goal he scores or sets up, he concedes two.
Oh, and Kyrgiakos - he's just embarrassing. One of the LFC defenders I've seen in a while
2) We have absolutely no width, Maxi is a terrible excuse for a winger and Cole just isn't working. Every time Everton put us under pressure the defence had to dump it in midfield because of no quality wingers, where we were then mobbed and dispossessed - which starts my third point:
3) We have the worst defensive midfield in the league, perhaps the world. Poulsen is the midfield version of The Greek. Truly awful.
Lucas is much better, but only good enough for a relegation-threatened team. I'm still wondering why we let Momo Sissoko go, he wasn't the best but he was young and a tough tackler - unlike Poulsen, who prances away at the sight of a 50/ 50 tackle against a person bigger than him.
4) Striker, everyone knows the drill here. We have one good striker - 2 or 3 good prospects, but no reliable, decent back up.
5) Most important of all. New manager. I genuinely like Roy as a person and manager, but he's so depressing and too negative. He's making us play like Fulham, except Fulham can get a draw at Blackpool. We need someone who will lift the fans, the players and generally improve the mood across Anfield - and the first person that comes to mind who has those traits wants the job. Kenny Dalglish. Worth a shot, in my opinion.
17 Oct 2010 18:12:35
One name DALGLISH
17 Oct 2010 18:10:03
Evered {ed's note - I would give him a month, just long enough for the dust to settle and him to prove if he can turn things around, but not so long as to leave us with no chance of recovering.}.
Come on editor make your mind up earlier your advice was to give Roy till the end of the season now it's a month?
Lose one more game what will your opinion be then?
RedAk1 {ed's note - circumstances have changed, though I don't believe I ever said give him till the end of the season, I think you are mixing up editors mate. But before the takeover I would have given him a full season, now that it has happened there are no off-field issues making it more difficult for him.}
17 Oct 2010 18:02:12
Guys why you making your wishlist teams with carra and agger at the back? it should be skrtel and agger because regardless of the result skrtel played very very good. he had the attack of lock in the second half. every counter attack he was there to see to them.
17 Oct 2010 18:02:03
Right. Enough grumbing. Action Time. WHO SHOULD BE NEXT LFC BOSS? VOTE. WE KNOW BEST
17 Oct 2010 17:59:23
17 Oct 2010 17:51:41
"In my opinion it's arguably the best game we've played since I've become the manager of the club."
roys words not mine
time for change i think
ed any answers {ed's note - I think that says more about how bad we have been playing than anything else could have done. We were awful today and allowed a very poor Everton side to bully us out of the match.}
I would not say everton are a poor side, id love a lot of their players, cahill, arteta, jagielka, rodwell.
17 Oct 2010 17:59:13
I see some of you telling some people on here that roy has two games etc, and others saying give him time don't panic. I think this is absolute sh* te, if west ham are talking about getting rid of grant and we are supposed to be title challengers then that says it all.
He has to go NOW simple as no argument or case to the contrary, got to GO NOW. end of. the players don't know what they are doing out there, there's no passion, no commitment, exactly as they played at the end of rafas reign when he had to go, so no difference. All this Liverpool stick by managers, well does that not tell you something over the last 20 years and quite a few poor managers (they were given too much time, the only difference here is the alarm bells are ringing a hell of a lot earlier and a hell of a lot LOUDER!
make the change,
Phil, from Belfast
17 Oct 2010 17:58:09
I used to be that type of supporter ed, the liverpool way back the manager to the hilt doesn't work anymore, as someone else posted he woy has picked up were rafa left of.as for the high turnover of players we have rafa to thank for that also had money & wasted it give or take a few players he let quality players go, garcia, alonso, riise, crouch, keane, sissoko, dudek.we miss big sami hyypia big time.i know this isn't baseball.check out the video on official website about nesv sacked general manager + team manager shortly after takeover.red sox second highest spending in mlb have you ever seen the transfer fees in baseball they're nuts.red sox second highest earning team in sports worldwide.football is a result driven business ed wakeup we're in the relegation zone.havent been this bad in 50 years.we need to stop being so sentimental.i love our history it speaks for itself nothing else like it but we need a bright red future.i like woy as a person but hes not the way forward
{Editor's Note: The figures you see in baseball are not transfer fees alone - they include the wages as well so they appear distorted.}
17 Oct 2010 17:57:34
With mascherano and alonso now gone, the weakness of our defence has truly been exposed. the back four's distribution is embarrasing and they are woeful defensively. mascherano covered up the defensive side and alonso covered up the passing side.
we look unsure what to do in the midfield, pass it back and then a long ball is played and wasted. no wonder torres is fed up, he's recieving no service.
jamie carragher is a liability as well, if he weren't a local lad we'd all be calling for his head. we seem to criticise the greek and skrtel but fail to see that carragher is extremely poor now. when he recieves the ball he has no composure and hoofs it, subsequently losing possesion. we need a centre half that can bring the ball out from the back and link with the midfield. no wonder we're creating so few chances, WE'RE SITTING SO DEEP!
ed do you agree?
{Editor's Note: Carragher has lost his edge at the moment. Agger is injured and we can only wait to see what happens when he is fit again. I'd like to see more of Kelly in defence and would give Amoo a chance as well.}
17 Oct 2010 17:56:50
Roy said it was the best performance he's seen since joining the club, we've got problems what do think ed?
{Editor's Note: There are no doubt problems. This was the first game after the tumult of the last few months - the players need to change their attitude as well. We'll see.}
17 Oct 2010 17:56:34
I'm an Arsenal fan, and I DON'T come in peace.
Last season I heard many of the liverpool fans here come with the swagger of a london youth, claiming big things would happen to liverpool, and asaying all these stupid, dreamer things and that they will take their place among the top 4 again.
This is not an attack on liverpool or sane liverpool fans, but the ignorant, arrogant foolish fans here.
Where have your idiotic fans gone? OH yeah, they've stopped posting.
Next time, guarantee that a first place finish will happen before shooting your mouths off about how 'great' things will happen with hodgsen.
RIGSBY-(i have the confidence to sign off with a name, and im not ashamed of what i have written)
17 Oct 2010 17:56:07
Now that LFC have new owners, there has to be money available to buy players.
After such a poor start to the season which is not stopping, it is obvious LFC need to buy new players that will turn the fortunes of the club.
The players LFC are looking for are all attacking players.
Ashley Young
SWP
Mario Gomez
Gary Cahill (defender)
These 4 players will be on the LFC wish list for Janurary.
If Martin O Neill becomes manager, LFC will have a great chance of getting Ashley Young.
Some players will be sold in Janurary if the players above are bought.
Team line up
- - - - - - -Reina- - - - - - - - -
-Johnson- Cahill- Agger- Konchesky-
-SWP- -Gerrard- -Meireles- -Young-
- - - - - Torres- -Gomez- - - - - -
Subs: Jones, Carragher, Skertel, Aurelio, Poulsen, Cole, Ngog, Jovanovic, Kuyt.
17 Oct 2010 17:55:10
17 Oct 2010 17:47:49
I think that charlie adam could be a decent signing, get him for about 5mil, he could fit the bill as a creative midfielder.
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100% agree with the above. Mata, Honda, Defour or Banega?. .They won't come near the club if we're still in the bottom half come January. Charlie Adam is a class act. Sweet left foot. Passing range like Alonso. Passion and able to grab a hold of the game like Gerrard. For 5million or so it would be a bargain.
Put it this way. Adam or Poulsen? Adam or Lucas? I know who I'd have in my team.
17 Oct 2010 17:54:19
After watching IAN HOLLOWAY's side play I wouldn't mind his mentality at LIVERPOOL. .Belief and an attacking mentality is what they have in spite of losing. .
Trishan
17 Oct 2010 17:51:54
What the hell are maxi and lucas doing in training to get a game. Lucas wouldn't know a forward pass even if it bounced off his face and maxi as a winger, get some chalk on yer boots and stop coming inside and congesting a pitiful defensive packed midfield as it is. If roy can't see that we need a second striker on the pitch to help torres , cos it's hard to knock on a ball when you have 2 defenders on your back and then chase your your own flick, gerrards having to drop deep cos the rest can't pass a ball 10 yards then roy needs to go now.
17 Oct 2010 17:51:41
"In my opinion it's arguably the best game we've played since I've become the manager of the club."
roys words not mine
time for change i think
ed any answers {ed's note - I think that says more about how bad we have been playing than anything else could have done. We were awful today and allowed a very poor Everton side to bully us out of the match.}
17 Oct 2010 17:50:39
HODGSON OUT.
17 Oct 2010 17:47:25
17 Oct 2010 17:30:25
re:
I feel sorry for Roy, I really do, he has inherited a very poor squad and was given peanuts to buy new players before the window shut. They lack ability and certainly lack confidence. Today was a shambles; ive just got back from the game and the talk was that Torres and Gerrard are defo to go in January with a possibility that Reina might go to Arsenal. We have to survive till January anyway and the feeling from Fridays takeover, has disappeared into reality, that these are desperate days.
U one of few mate that feels sorry for Roy. .The squad is by no means poor. just poorly MANAGED, play the players we have in their preferred positions (youngsters included) an we will rise to the occasion. .
17 Oct 2010 17:47:20
Still no response on WHO DESRVES LFC MANAGER position. Ed thinks Donaster manager. Shankley revival, back to basics , what? {ed's note - it is time to have a manager who wants to win every match, not the Houllier/Rafa/Hodgson mentality of not losing and maybe snatching a win.}
17 Oct 2010 17:44:42
Roy has to go! I know I am going to get slated for this but Roy's mentality is the same he had for say Fulham. Fulham used to happy with a draw here or there at Liverpool we expect much much more. This isn't good enough and I don't think he has the tactical nous to get out of this. I think King Kenny needs to be put in as a atop gap and get a quality manager when one becomes available.
17 Oct 2010 17:39:15
Yes it might be a poor squad, but its not as bad to be in 19th position in the league.Apart from 3/ 4 its better than the rest, the manager is not up to the task but hes a decent bloke.Time for Dalglish to take over asap.
17 Oct 2010 17:36:41
Sean O'Driscoll, Ed. . . .really, the man who this season masterminded a 3-0 drubbing by QPR and 4-0 to Cardiff and if i'm not mistaken was dumped out the Carling Cup by Accrington Stanley, who are they exactly. {ed's note - if you are going to judge him on that then you are a bit clueless. He has kept Donnie Rovers, who have one of the smallest budgets in the lower leagues, it is barely adequate for League Two let alone the Championship, challenging for the play offs for a number of seasons. His team plays flowing, attractive, attacking football and they go out to win every game, there is none of this playing not to lose we have seen week in week out since Houllier took charge.}
17 Oct 2010 17:35:52
17 Oct 2010 17:07:06
Sell Torres he's just not performing. and try and get 50M out of him. Buy Suarez 25M and Aguero 25M. Editor what do you think. {ed's note - what was he meant to do today? He had no service, he had no chance of having a good game.}
Your right Ed, I really feel sorry for Torres. He must be wondering when his next goal is coming. Roy might be putting the club on an even keel by not talking politics ( quite rightly so) but we have gone down hill badly even from last season. If this is Roy only concentrating on footie then we are in for a rough season. 2 more goals conceded from crosses Ed! It's enough to drive you to drink!
The Irish Rover {ed's note - it is time to drop the useless centre backs and give the kids a go, I have seen OAPs move faster than Kyrgiakos. I never thought I would see a defender who was less mobile than Ruddock but he manages it.}
17 Oct 2010 17:34:41
I thought so when he was first appointed and I think so now, sorry Roy, but you're not the man to lead LFC into a glorious future.
NESV, please please go out and appoint a really top class, feared and respected Coach such as Mourinho, Hiddink to name but two.
We must have someone who is proven at the very top level to alter the format currently played and to inspire the current squad to ensure safety this season. Then to attract the really top players in the transfer windows.
Sorry Roy, you are clearly a nice man, but I believe it is clear that you are not the man to protect LFC now or to lead them to the highest levels of success in the future.
17 Oct 2010 17:33:35
{ed's note - I think you mean Michael not Brian mate. Michael would have jumped at the chance in the summer under different circumstances, but I doubt he will leave his new job just yet
Sorry yes, Michael. Half-p1$$ed and sulking at the moment.
RED LENIN
17 Oct 2010 17:32:19
Tired of hearing we have only played eight games. We have not looked like winning any of those games. Very lucky at West Brom.
I would like to put it another way. We have 30 games left. Based on performances so far to be safe I would say we need to win 13-15 games. Do you think its possible. Roy said judge him after 10 games so 2 left for him.
Stop talking about new players in January. Depending on our league position will define who we sign. Robbie Fowler just said the Leeds side relegated was better than this. So based on current squad who do we play. Cole is not a left winger, Carragher is not a left/ right back.
17 Oct 2010 17:32:00
Taxi for Roy! !
17 Oct 2010 17:31:55
@Ed. If Hiddinck is absolutely out of the chase, who do you think fits the bill? Pretty sure NESV can lay their hands on anybody - within reason. Pelegrini, Deschamps, Riikard, DiMatteo, ayone else suitable? Dalglish may be out of touch with modern sport science, but as an interim Braveheart-style flag bearer he may be what we need? {ed's note - my personal choice would be Doncaster Rovers manager Sean O'Driscoll. His teams play fantastic football, he is young and hungry and looking to build a dynasty not just a quick fix.}
You say Dalglish is out of touch with the modern game. . .so what the F*CK is Roy then?? ?
I cannot believe this guy can't see that this sh*t formation isn't working. We're bottom two and yet his still sticks with it and players such as Lucas and Maxi.
When we change to 4-4-2 and brought on Babel and Jovanovic the game changed completely.
"Roy if you don't change the formation and try other players then you are going to get the SACK, think about it you f*cking pr*ck! !
17 Oct 2010 17:31:34
I'm all for giving a manager a chance but ONLY if we stop playing the long ball tactic! And Roy thinks we played well? Why was Stevie so far deep? Change the tactics now Mr. Hodgeson because NESV will seriously reconsider your position if you persist with such dross regardless of which players you may be fortunate enough to buy in January! If he buys someone of the calibre of Poulsen again maybe the board might start listening to Dalgleish's suggestions!
17 Oct 2010 17:31:25
Back to Life, Back to reality, back to here and now.
New Owners, some new money, no new ground, same result! !
17 Oct 2010 17:28:14
Everyones talking about all these new managers were ment to be getting , you can't blame it all on the manager look today our starting line up :
Torres ( didn't even look like he wanted to play , looks lazy and useless , very disapointing for a £50m player? )
Maxi rodriguez ( he nearly moved back to the spanish league near the end of the summer transfer window , doesn't look like he wants to be at the club , plus hes pretty useless as well. )
Lucas? ( got to be the one of the worst players in liverpool history and worst players ever to come out of brazil , wat a joke )
Joe cole ( even joey cole with all his quality is yet to spark a decent bit of form , and at times looks frustrated and isn't playing the way we know he can.)
and finally skrtel and the greek look scared s* tless when any player runs with the ball at them , they make hash decisions and couldnt handle the pace today.
Without stevie or carra theres no passion amongst the squad , we need to give the youth players a few games because even our bench doesn't look promising , we all know about babel , ngog not too bad but not liverpool quality , but theres just no attacking options what so ever. give suso , ince , pacheco , amoo etc a few games. we need more english players because it seems theres a real lack of communication and we don't just want a bunch of random foriegn individuals who are good at football , we want a TEAM!
ROLL ON JANUARY
17 Oct 2010 17:28:03
Keane manager and the king number 2 a mixture of experience and pride (kk) young with alot of passion (roy keane )
17 Oct 2010 17:27:03
In reply to So you want to replace the coaching staff and the entire team?} YES ED WE NEED TO BUILT FROM THE GROUND UP
WE'VE HAD A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP, NOW WE NEED RID OF MANAGER + 1ST TEAM COACHING STAFF, NEXT SEVERAL PLAYING STAFF, THEN BUILD UP AGAIN.I REALLY HOPE THIS HAPPENS HENRY DONE IT WITH RED SOX {ed's note - this isn't baseball, this is a proper TEAM game, a team that has to work together and know each other's game. We have been suffering for years with a constant turnover of players affecting their ability to play together, it is time to stop that and just look to make small changes, gradually, and build a new dynasty. Ripping everything out, yet again, and starting from the beginning is not going to help. We have a decent settle youth academy, some good coaches (I do think Sammy Lee is a joke and should be dismissed immediately) and a squad that should be capable of performing much better. Throwing it all away and starting again just leaves us where we are now, except that any new manager can't do anything until January.}
17 Oct 2010 17:26:41
{ed's note - if we have sunk so low as to play Kyrgiakos on a regular basis, then we may as well give up.}
Which is exactly what we did.
Shocking bar the last 2-3 minutes of regular time and the injury time {ed's note - him and Skrtel together are an embarrassment. Neither of them are capable of playing football to League One standard, let alone Premier League.}
17 Oct 2010 17:25:59
Whoever posted this "i think we should get phil thompson in charge with ian rush as his number 2 and still keep sammy lee as a coach bring back the boot room'
Pleae, please, please explain the Sammy Lee part. Excellent player, but a s* tfest in any description as coach' .Very sure his heart's there, but he can't cut it. Rather have Phil Boersma deal with my slipt disc
17 Oct 2010 17:24:08
How come when a team changes manager teams seem to play better playing for there places they should be playing for them now
17 Oct 2010 17:22:40
Fancy as next manager? In order - Brian Laudrup, Pelegrini, Di Matteo.
The problem is getting one to come. You can see the size of the re-building task. NESV will not pump silly money in and any financing that is required will be taken out against the club.
RED LENIN
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17 Oct 2010 17:21:58
What an utter disgrace to see woy come out and say what he said in his i/ view after the match. how can he say we played well with passion etc torres was a thorn in their side etc etc, is he that disallusioned? shows how weak he is and that he is not the right man for the job.
I have never gringed more listening to those comments, we are not Fulham, passion and commitment is not what wins Liverpool games it should be a small percentage for skill and flair but hey we aint seeing any of that lately.
17 Oct 2010 17:21:57
ROY KEANE AND KING KENNT AS NUMBER 2 WOULD GET UP ALEX F NOSE THEN SIGN ROONEY
17 Oct 2010 17:20:12
Reina
Johnson Carragher Agger Taiwo
Meireles Banega
Honda Gerrard Cole
Torres
Subs:
Jones, Skrtel, Konchesky, Lucas, Babel, Kuyt, Klose
I get annoyed with some of these suggestions tbh. Everyone on here complains abot the lack of firepower the team has yet continue to want to see 4-5-1 formation which is doing us no favours at the mo. If we do get a striker in january then lets use him and give torres the support he needs.
I would take any of the follwing strikers, Gomez, Klose, cassano, millito and the others which have been suggested.
Reina
Johnson Carragher Agger Taiwo
Cole Gerrard Mereiles Mata
Torres Klose/ Gomez/ Millito/ Cassano. . anyone! !
17 Oct 2010 17:19:35
We need to sort our defence out, as we are conceding goals every game and we have arguably the best goalkeeper in the world. I think Ron vaal from feyenord is a beast of a player, I know he as about 18 months on his contract.would love to see His countrymen Emanuelson join us as well with Frank rijkaard as manager.
17 Oct 2010 17:18:47
This is a question to Ed and the readers;
Next match, who would try Babel just behind Torres? I would try this because at least he has pace, creativity and can score goals. Whatever Roy is trying to do at the moment is not working. Babel has always been a striker, and when he played down the middle, he scored quite a nice goal.
I would also play Johnson or Joe Cole RM because at least there is a chance we could get a decent cross into the box.
Please reply to both my thoughts. {ed's note - Babel has been terrible whenever he has started, no matter what position. But he has been tried up front in the stiffs and was a disaster, sell him and give Pacheco or Ngoo a chance. Joe Cole can't cross, how many times did he waste crossing opportunities today? Stick him on the bench - that is all he is fit for - too slow to be first choice.}
17 Oct 2010 17:17:58
At the moment anyone managing liverpool couldnt do worse but i think we need an english manager and someone who as a passion for liverpool and i think we should get phil thompson in charge with ian rush as his number 2 and still keep sammy lee as a coach bring back the boot room
17 Oct 2010 17:14:48
If Liverpool are not 7th by mid December, Hodgson will be replaced as LFC manager.
Martin O Neill will be favourite to replace Hodgson along with Kenny Dalglish who is a fans favourite.
Martin O Neill seems to be the best man to land the job. Every once in a while a great manager comes on the scene and it would foolish for LFC to over look MON.
MON has about 20 years of management left in him.
He is Hungry for success and has had success with every club he has managed.
He has a great eye for tallent and can work with a small budget.
He can attract tallented players to LFC due to his Philoposy and influence on football and he has a nack for bringing world class players to football clubs that end up playing for bigger clubs.
Every club he has managed, improved while he was manager.
He has always spoken very positive about LFC and he could have a desire to manage LFC. {ed's note - O'Neill is a terrible manager. A great eye for talent? You mean such as Reo-Coker? Every club has improved? You mean like the state he left Celtic in when he left? The mess he left Leicester and Wycombe in too.}
17 Oct 2010 17:13:58
Henry & Co are baseball fans not Soccer people. To the people who say they will sack RH this week because they did thatat the Red Sox. Baseball is there national game, they know nothing of Soccer at all. If RH is sacked then I think we will go down. The performance today was a shocker and the players are responsable, the back 4 (what back 4) Midfield lacked ideas, ability and passion and Torres is a passanger he looks terrible; we shoukld cash in. The last thing we should do is sack RH. We need the players to look at themselves or F* k O* soon.
17 Oct 2010 17:13:36
Anyone else missing Rafa and Xabi?
17 Oct 2010 17:12:11
Performance got to be down to roy, every match this season we have sat back & invited teams to attack us, and we've never been able to get the ball to torres & co in the box. The players who are doing this are much the same as the ones who came 2nd 2 years ago, except the 2 holding m'f'ers. So, to me its got to be down to the manager & the sooner he goes the better, he will just drill the team more and more in his negative system making it harder to get back to a decent attacking minded system when he's gone
17 Oct 2010 17:07:06
Sell Torres he's just not performing. and try and get 50M out of him. Buy Suarez 25M and Aguero 25M. Editor what do you think. {ed's note - what was he meant to do today? He had no service, he had no chance of having a good game.}
17 Oct 2010 17:06:25
17 Oct 2010 16:45:56
{Editor's Note: It is a knee jerk reaction to losing today - particularly agaisnt Everton. If Liverpool had won today it would be all praises and RH has turned it around.}
If your granny had balls she would be your grandad! We didn't win today & we have played really poor all season. 61% possesion playing sideways & backwards. We are considerably worse than last season & Hodgson has to take the blame.
The Irish Rover
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I agree with Irish Rover we've tried to see the positive's out of our perfomance's and results. But there just isn't any. For Roy's sake and especially for LFC's sake he might have to walk or be pushed.
Blair Mayne YNWA
17 Oct 2010 17:05:23
Editor why is hodgson using gerrard as attacking midfielder? he shud be playing him with meireles in centre midfield instead of lucas there. With joe cole playing off torres. What is wrong with our manager. . he's losing the plot! {ed's note - because we don't have a decent striker to partner Torres. Babel has shown himself to be crap, Jovanovic is not good enough, Ngog is not good enough. That leaves Gerrard as the only option. Plus he is too lazy to play central midfield these days, strolling around with his hands on his hips every time the play breaks down when he should be getting back and covering.}
17 Oct 2010 17:04:51
Not Roys fault but the job seems too big for him. Personally I would give him his 3 million pay off with a big thankyou for taking the chance and put Kenny in charge until the season ends. I defy any player not to give 100% for in my opinion the best player to ever play the game. TP.
17 Oct 2010 17:03:06
Back to Life, Back to reality, back to here and now. New Owners, a little bit of new money, no new ground, same result! !
17 Oct 2010 17:02:44
Ed check this out . . .
Did i not say we would only miss Rafa when he had gone! {ed's note - I don't miss Rafa, I am glad he is gone and the manager at least concentrates on football matters instead of playing backroom politics. I am glad that the players who don't get in the first team actually turn out for the ressies so that they get some match practice. Hodgson might not be the man to lead us to glory, but at least he is getting us back on an even keel and it is all about the football with him, not petty little games.}
17 Oct 2010 17:02:37
We only looked an attacking threat when the bluenoses started to sit back after about 65 mins. Even then against a poor Everton side we still did'nt look a REAL threat. Meireles from long-range was our best chance of fluking something but let's face it, we are looking like the most disjointed, sorry excuse for a Liverpool team in memory. We are managing to make everyone we play look good. WBA (our only win) were better than us and I can't honestly remember ANY Premiership team creating so few chances over this many games. I'll ask a general question to everyone on this forum ;
Q. When was the last time a Liverpool performance took your breath away ?
By this I don't mean when was the last time you were overjoyed with the result because we have occasionally risen to the challenge bouyed on by the crowd or whatever. I mean when was the last time you saw us faultless in all areas. . passing accurately and intelligently, receiving the ball with control and choosing the right return pass, defending stoutly and quickly, calmly, manfully. Midfielders in tune with each other and battling back/ breaking forward as a unit. When did you last see us play with width. . . skillful wingers on both sides who can beat a man and cross ball ?
Forwards who you can't afford to give a sniff to. Forwards who are obviously fully absorbed in terrorising the defence instead of sulking, moaning and diving their way through every game.
When did you last stand up at 90+ mins and enthusiastically applaud the gladiators from the arena of battle and really mean it?
Okay, we've been going downhill for a while . . we all accept that. Pro-Benitez fans are too blinkered to accept that he won nothing at Liverpool. A few magical minutes in Istanbul papered over his managerial weaknesses and Gerrard won that and the FA Cup. Most games you'd see him scribbling frantically on bits of paper in an effort to look like a tactitian but he was probably jotting down excuses or applying for the Real Madrid job.
Today's performance was a bit strange for me. I expected us to lose and, of course, we did. You know you are struggling when that's the case against such lowly opposition!
However, at the risk of incurring the wrath of others, I didn't feel ANYTHING. Just antipathy. Numbness but not even a horrible numbness. Why? Because a) Like I said, I expected it. b) It's another nail in Hodgson's coffin (good) and any other fluke result would've prolonged his reign. c) I want these overpaid whingers to feel embarrassed. d) When I met me missus I took her to Anfield 'cos I wanted to impress her. It took some doing because I had to break my usual matchday routine and pick her up from work. Parking that late was a nightmare and I literally dumped the car (knackering the bumper in the process) and hoped the scallies would take pity. It was Sheff.Wed on the opening day and Stan "clean-cut family-man" Collymore was making his debut. We were behind time so had to run through Stanley Park but because I never used to do it this way I got bleedin' lost a few times and by the time we handed our sweat-soaked tickets to the old duffer on the turnstile the match was well under way. Sod's Law dictates that our seats meant half the Main Stand having to stand up (tutting and the rest!) and as we breathlessly took to our seats I asked my neighbour the score. I'd missed the "spectacular Collymore opener" and to make matters worse, as I was playing catch-up with my immediate main-standers, my future wife. . she who was otherwise the embodiment of all that I had thus aspired to etc. . . .got a f*ckin' book out! ! I asked her through gritted teeth if it wasn't her "cup of tea" and she confessed that she quite liked John Barnes' legs!
Apart from Wimbledon away (long story) she's never asked or been taken to a match but, my point is : I have started to actually take a book / newspaper to the game just in case. And I used to scowl at anyone who'd even glance at their programme during the game! Nowadays I laugh smugly to myself if I spot someone who hasn't at least got a Sudoku to do during the match.
I'm half-joking but since my wife ran off with the Wimbledon right-back I have devoted my life to being angry.
At everything !
Anfieldpete x
17 Oct 2010 17:00:47
Roy is only partily to blame its the s* t he was left when he took over that he has to work with normally when someone takes over at a big club there given money to put there stamp on the team roy didn't the whole squad needs an overhaul and probably the management cause the team just doesn't look interested no spark what so ever do u agree
17 Oct 2010 16:59:12
Ed please put this on rumour page -
Stop all these rumours fellow fans because you are talking bout players such as mata , banega etc etc , all these players arnt going to come if we are battling for relegation :@ . .we need to be at least 6th -7th for theese players to come in january! ! !
USE YOUR BRAINS PEOPLE! ! ! ! !
17 Oct 2010 16:58:05
If Roy does go and king kenny stands in then at least we might get Arda in Jan with a bit of luck we need width so bad.
Paul ynwa
17 Oct 2010 16:49:41
Right Cold Day Of Light . . .
Time For Calm . . .
Lets see what JWH does he's no mug !
LFC1
17 Oct 2010 16:49:39
@Ed. Hiddinck may have a job, he may be older than Hodgson. But he has class. We don't need any more compromises - we are not Stoke City! . NESV managed to pull us from the jaws of a pair of b* * * yank speculators - same class of the species that have left half of us in the absolute s* t. Pretty sure that NESV can deal with the Turkish FA efficiently - we could even gift them Hodgson who has good experience of satisfying the ambitions of non-ambitious clubs. No-one worth their salt wouldn't want the LFC job, especially now.
{Editor's Note: I think you can forget any thought of Guus Hiddink as manger.}
17 Oct 2010 16:45:56
{Editor's Note: It is a knee jerk reaction to losing today - particularly agaisnt Everton. If Liverpool had won today it would be all praises and RH has turned it around.}
If your granny had balls she would be your grandad! We didn't win today & we have played really poor all season. 61% possesion playing sideways & backwards. We are considerably worse than last season & Hodgson has to take the blame.
The Irish Rover
17 Oct 2010 16:45:39
We need a ch half that can bring the ball out of defence and push are players forward we always seem short of bodies supporting the front man time to find a new hansen and lawrenson heres a test for the fans who would you buy and what would be your formation
long time red
umm we have someone called daniel agger but fantastic roy refuses to play him
17 Oct 2010 16:43:58
To the guy who said this . .
I think ROY should go.
Seen no performance this season apart from the 15mins at old trafford to say that he is a good manager or even a manager who will stabalize the club.
On the downside, i can't seem to think of another astute manager who we can get for long term at the moment.
Kenny daglish is an option. .But who is the next big young manager?
Roy, Please resign
I THOUGHT FOR ONE MINUTE YOU SAID "ROY, PLEASE RE-SIGN" lol
LFC1
17 Oct 2010 16:42:43
17 Oct 2010 16:27:00
re: After today if we don't have at least 50 mil forget top 10 not even top 4
ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD WON'T HELP IF THE PLAYERS ON THE PITCH DON'T BELIEVE. That's the problem at the moment there's no BELIEF. No winning MENTALITY. The body language of the entire team says that. Look at the end of the '09 season, when there was nothing to play for an the shackles were off. . That's when we were most dangerous. attacking football. makes other teams afraid.
17 Oct 2010 16:38:03
Sell Torres and buy the whole Blackpool team.
17 Oct 2010 16:35:57
We all love kenny dalglish and many are calling for him to replace roy because of what kenny did for us last time, he is and always will be a legend, but i do not think him taking over would be such a good thing.
before you start hating me for saying this please think of the implications if kenny took over , thrown in at the deep end, to sort out our previous managers failings.
what would it do to the kings reputation if he failed to turn things around!. . . from legend to flop. . . . not such a good idea. . . i for one will support him to the end if he took the risk but what a risk he would be taking . . . . for us, and should he be put into that situation?
redsincebirth
Y.N.W.A
17 Oct 2010 16:35:37
After todays match i think roy should b sack with immediate effect(he doesn't deserve anymore chance).
His tactics are poor, he doesn't know hw 2select & change players.
we also nid 2get rid of samy lee, lucas, poulsen, konchesky, krygiakos, jovanovic, maxi &skrtel.
we nid 2sign new player in evry position DF shawcross, hangeland, bale, contrao, taiwo(maseile), Gary cahill MF honda(we must sign him), sweinstiger, banega, turan, young, mata, marin, dafour, parker, odewingie(west brom) FW lopez, adebayo, kalu uche(almeria), aguero, forlan.
It's not a must dat we should get all d players but at least 2 in evry position.
If we want 2sign a new manager, we shouldnt sign any premier league manager even oneil(he's not d class we nid).
we nid a manager like hiddink, rikjaard, king kenny, ronald koeman & so on.
I'm really angry bcos we don't deserve all dis mess.Here in Nigeria all liverpool fan are now a laughin stock, but we still stick wit d team even though we arent large in numbers like arsenal, chelsea, man.u & barca in Nigeria.
KEEP THE FAITH
HAPPY TIMES ARE NEAR.
TOUGH TIMES DONT LAST BUT TOUGH PEOPLE DO.
Y.N.W.A
17 Oct 2010 16:35:24
First of all i would like to say that we was absoloutley awful apart from jamie carragher, gerrard and for once i thought skrtel was half decent. There is an absoloute lack of confidence in the team an i think one of the big problems is the manager. . . i like Roy Hodgson as a person but am thinkin the players are thinking the same thing! but i don't think they respect him because he hasnt achieved anything! we need a manager who has won an achieved things throughout there career! no motivation in the squad, no confidence, an a lack of quality through the team! felt sorry for gerrard tho because he was playin well but again all the players are standing grouped together! what they do in training i will never know. . . Torres will leave in january an to be fair if we could get 50mil + for him i would let him go! the team needs rebuilding an as much as i don't want to see him leave, that money could pay for more talent at the squad! you only have to look at the bench to see we are in a bad situation! New manager ASAP. . . keep Torres sign Mata in jan an we r goin in the right direction
YNWA RAW
17 Oct 2010 16:34:46
Please Roy Hodgson, join H&G and stand aside. Nice bloke, but this job is just too big for you. This has a Blackburn look about it and we all know what happened to them. Question is, who can we bring in?
17 Oct 2010 16:34:31
17 Oct 2010 16:12:14
We need a new team, edin dzeko, we need a new defence, bastos for lb, g cahill cb english, micah richards rb & cb, javi martinez, a young, turan for the wings and most important frank rijkaard to play v good solid and most importantly attractive football is this not the lfc legendary style of play pass & move?get rid of all deadwood ps let rijkaard bring in his own coaching staff, £25m a season plus sales we could have a cracking squad.
{Editor's Note: So you want to replace the coaching staff and the entire team?}
cant believe the editors are saying give woy a chance lol 3 & a half months hes had.we need to stop following the same route of old football changed 20 years ago & we didn't adjust to well in the epl on & off the pitch
Not change the entire squad or coaching staff. jus change the attitude and style of play. None of the players look like they believe they can win at the moment. That is the problem with ROY. Teams play us NOW and always think they can get a result. Anfield used to be a fortress and we used to get good results away from home as well. .
Trishan {ed's note - changing everything is not going to help that. Roy has barely walked in the door, he has faced complete and utter turmoil amongst the players and within the club itself. Now is the time to let things settle down for a month and look at it again then. Though he really has to start seeing that Kyrgiakos and Skrtel are not even close to being good enough for the Prem and dropping them.}
17 Oct 2010 16:32:44
Hodgsons got to go. anyone see him today asking sammy lee what he should do during the game absolutely clueless. comments after the match we played well and try'd to blame the offside rule for the goal.
17 Oct 2010 16:32:10
So who are the open letters going to be addressed to now? New owners have not magically changed the way we play, and manager Hodgson along with senior players, and in particular the team captain Gerrard, need to be reminded of their roles. Observations on the derby game:
Carragher has barely enough pace for CB, so why put him on the right? He was shown up time and again in defence, and going forwards looked amateurish.
What is the ongoing case for Maxi. He is by no means an out and out winger, and in a team that likes pace, why do the likes of Jova find themselves on the bench, especially as,
Joe Cole played on the left? The creative element that LFC have been missing and that we cunningly acquired in the summer was sent out for wide man duties.
Man of the match for LFC was the Greek, and that's saying something. He was the only player that appeared to want to play.
Time and again LFC lost the ball as a result of any one of a) having no outlets, no off ball running, no-one looking to receive, b) failing to acknowledge the pace of the english game, c) not receiving any audible help from their own team mates, "man on", that sort of thing.
Hodgson has taken an underperforming side of last season and stripped any hope of scoring from them. Gerrard has lost his ability to pick the team up. Carra has lost what little pace he had.
I know NESV want to give Woy time, but he's just had 90 minutes, and displayed a complete lack of ability to prepare the team well for an energetic derby, the first game in front of new owners, failed to fill them with any sense of confidence or belief, didn't take the managerial responsibility of changing shape when it was so immediately apparent things weren't working, and failing to make changes to the personnel in enough time to have an impact.
Players not performing is a problem as they can;t be easily sacked nad replaced. The same is not true of the manager's position, and based on his first 8 games, Woy is not good enough.
17 Oct 2010 16:27:53
If the players are just given the chance to play in their preferred positions I think we would do much better. Carra is not a RB. No width or attacking option given. Rather TRY the youngsters. What good is it having a reserves team if they don't get a chance to shine in the first team?? We have so many promising youngsters in the reserves. . and the first team.
Trishan
17 Oct 2010 16:27:00
After today if we don't have at least 50 mil forget top 10 not even top 4
left back: would prefer coentrao(15m) but far to expensive. Taiwo was shyt at the world cup so no way. I think it's time we gave robinson a chance, i love his tackles. Or perhaps Izaguirre from Celtic, even though he'd just join them. Or Pieters of PSV
right back: apparently juventus want johnson if they can't get van der wiel so let's buy him get rid of johnson and darby and use kelly and van der wiel(10m) as our primary right backs
centre back: skrtel played well today. He should be partnered with agger in defense. Ayala and wilson as cover. We don't need hangeland. I think he's a little too old. Carra to guide ayala and wilson and kygriakos sold
centre mid: meireles was supposed to be good, perhaps he needs more time. We need de Zeeuw(8m) or/ and Inler (9m). Banega is a favourite but he'll cost a lot. Sell lucas and poulsen
attacking mid: it has become clear that we only want one man for this role: Keisuke Honda(12m)
left wing: cole and jovanovic and babel looks poor, we clearly need 2 players: Mata(11m) and Arda(10m)
right wing: maxi is s* t, poor cover for kuyt, Sanchez(15m) would be perfect, or I won't mind Lee Chung Yong who would be cheaper
forward: if we sell torres to the mancs for 50m, I would like to see both Dzeko and Suarez, both about 30m each. If not, Kerzhakov of Zenit and Dzagoev of CSKA would be welcome
{Editor's Note: I disagree with anything that suggests the entire team is replaced. I would give the younger players a run out.}
17 Oct 2010 16:25:54
The style of fooball we played today & of recent is too slow. We look tired and short of ideas.
I know its not the liverpool way but is Hodgson really the right man to take us forward?
We need to use the likes of Pacheco , Kelly, Amoo, Spearing, Shelvy & Ince until January when we can buy. We need to bring back the high tempo football we can play.
Lucas is very poor, Joe cole looks frustrated along with Gerrard & Torres.
What are your thoughts Ed?
17 Oct 2010 16:25:26
Well wat can i say about todays game here is my ratings
reina-4
carra-4
skrtel-3
soto-3
konk-3
maxi-did he play 0
lucas-0
gerrard-4
meireles-3
cole-did he turn up o
torres-3
to be honest if we got a half decent bid for torres say 30 mill take it he don't care no more as u can see it in his body language
OUTS
SKRTEL-5M
SOTO-2M
KONK-3M
MAXI-5M
LUCAS-5M
BABEL-9M
JOVA-6M
COLE-7M
KUYT-10M
TORRES-30-40M
DEADWOOD-15M
TOTAL-97-107M
INS
CAHILL-12M
GIBBS-8M
BENEGA-12M
DEFOUR-12M
MATA-14M
TURAN-10M
YOUNG-17M
SUAREZ-20M/ FORLAN-10M
LLORENTE-15M
TOTAL-130M
this only represents about a 40m hit by nesv but most of all WOY MUST GO AND BRING IN PELLEGRINI, DI MATTEO, KLINNSMAN, OR DESCHAMPS
then my starting 11 would be
. . . . . . . . . .reina. . . . . . . . .
kelly. . .cahill. . . .agger. . . .gibbs
. . benega/ defour. . . . . gerrard. .
turan. . . . . . suarez/ forlan. . . .mata
. . . . . . . . . . llorente. . . . .
17 Oct 2010 16:24:23
6 player to keep in my opinion are
reina
carragher
agger
gerrard
cole
torres
then use
kelly as rb
amoo rw
then look in the transfer market and buy quality at least 4 players in jan
long time rd
17 Oct 2010 16:23:41
ED I'M SORRY BUT YOU NEED TO GROW A PAIR. NOT GOING TO COMMENT ON KNEE JERK REACTIONS. WHAT KNEE JERK REACTIONS ARE YOU ON ABOUT? SECOND FROM BOTTOM THE WORST START IN OVER 50 YEARS AND YOU THINK TALK OF GETTING RID OF OUR CLUELESS MANAGER AS KNEE JERK REACTIONS. UNBELIEVABLE.
17 Oct 2010 16:23:08
How can roy say we've played well but got unlucky? I'm thinking he was watching the wrong game. Roy clearly has to go. 19th in table with a decent side. We defend so deep which invites pressure. Then when we do score we press higher and get more of the ball. Gerrard and Renia are only ones who played well.
Watching blackpool play 10x better then us with far worse players (supposetly)
Ed do you think Roy needs to go?
17 Oct 2010 16:22:32
@Redrodge. Hiddinck is definitely the man for the job! Only man big and smart enough for this place.
@Ed. So what if Hiddinck has a job already, so does Hodgson
{Editor's Note: Guus Hiddink is only three months in to his contract with Turkey, he is older than Roy Hodgson and I think there is a roughly zero chance that he would be interested.}
17 Oct 2010 16:21:50
Bring in Klinsmann. He'd attract top quality German players like Schweinsteiger & Lahm and also get the good youngsters that are already at LFC playing fast, attacking football.
17 Oct 2010 16:21:48
Having just wasted 2hrs of my life watching the dire performance against Liverpool, I have lost all confidence I had (which was very little to begin with) in Roy Hodgson! His body language on the touch line did not inspire, with his arms folded scratching his head. It looked more that Sammy Lee was offering the tactical changes rather than Roy. Waiting so long to bring on the substitutes when it was clear his tactics were not working. It was clear that Ryan Babel made a difference when he came as he was very direct, as was Jovanovic we spent 80minutes faffing around with sideward passing and offered no penetration. Carragher at right-back was a huge mistake to begin with, Martin Kelly would have done a much better job. Maxi is not of high enough quality, and Joe Cole has not justified his hefty wages. In January we need to purchase a centre back, a left winger and a striker. In a ideal world Gary Cahill, Juan Mata and Luis Suarez would make a huge difference to our squad. But given Roys transfer ambitions we may be looking at Aaron Hughes, Zoltan Gera and Carlton Cole. .
17 Oct 2010 16:20:23
I thnk its time for roy to go n kenny step in, so we can buy at least two quality player in jan.
1. Honda
2. suarez
and pls play kelly instead of johnson:)
17 Oct 2010 16:17:32
Heard a rumour liverpool want gus hiddink as new manager is it true ed
{Editor's Note: No.}
17 Oct 2010 16:17:06
Think it's time Liverpool acted and sadly we need to get rid of Roy Hodgson before it's too late. He will take us down. The job is too big for him. This looks like the early signs of when he was in charge of Blackburn and we all know how that ended up. Who can we get to come in?
17 Oct 2010 16:16:22
Please Roy just go before u turn liverpool into Blackburn! You are simply not upto it!
Pellegrini, Rikjard or Deschamps in
Roy and sammy lee out
17 Oct 2010 16:15:13
How about shipping the lot of them out, and starting with a clean piece of paper? I'm sure there must be 11 kids in Liverpool who would die to put on the red shirt and would do a better job. I know things at the club have not been good but these guys are 'PROFESSIONALS'?? They should be able to make an honest effort but nobody seems interested. Blame the manager if you want, but these guys are the ones on the pitch and they are the ones who really have to do it.
BRED
17 Oct 2010 16:14:40
I think ROY should go.
Seen no performance this season apart from the 15mins at old trafford to say that he is a good manager or even a manager who will stabalize the club.
On the downside, i can't seem to think of another astute manager who we can get for long term at the moment.
Kenny daglish is an option. .But who is the next big young manager?
Roy, Please resign
17 Oct 2010 16:14:14
{Editor's Note: I am not going to get dragged in to commenting on what are knee jerk reaction based comments after a pretty poor performance.}
Your havin a laugh Editor, where have you been since August?it's hardly a knee jerk reaction! It's a build up of p*ss poor performances over the season so far, & to that extent the manager then the players have to take the rap!
The Irish Rover
{Editor's Note: It is a knee jerk reaction to losing today - particularly agaisnt Everton. If Liverpool had won today it would be all praises and RH has turned it around.}
17 Oct 2010 16:12:14
We need a new team, edin dzeko, we need a new defence, bastos for lb, g cahill cb english, micah richards rb & cb, javi martinez, a young, turan for the wings and most important frank rijkaard to play v good solid and most importantly attractive football is this not the lfc legendary style of play pass & move?get rid of all deadwood ps let rijkaard bring in his own coaching staff, £25m a season plus sales we could have a cracking squad.
{Editor's Note: So you want to replace the coaching staff and the entire team?}
cant believe the editors are saying give woy a chance lol 3 & a half months hes had.we need to stop following the same route of old football changed 20 years ago & we didn't adjust to well in the epl on & off the pitch
17 Oct 2010 16:11:57
The thing is . A foreign manger needs 5years or loads of doe to be a success. They need one season to asses players and learn English game. Season 2, learn other teams and tactics aswell as other team players. Season 3 is to sell and buy players. Season 4 it's to get it into shape and style. Now do you really still want an unproven manager of the EPL like Pellegrini? This means 5years little success.
O 'Neil isn't the answer as he basically is of similar standard as Hodgson and both play same football.
I'd prefer Dalglish, atleast until the end of season then look at younger managers like Dimatteo of west brom. This is just my opinion.
17 Oct 2010 16:11:51
Hodgson thinks he is still at Fulham. Look at the average players he is looking to bring in.
Hodgson was good at Fulham. A nice little club running towards his retirement at 65.
A nice bloke but not for Liverpool. He needs to be replaced now.
The American owners might like the idea of Jurgen Klinsmann.
I would prefer either Giddink or Pellegrini
17 Oct 2010 16:11:23
In Jan we need a decent striker (Gomez) a winger (mata) a centre back (Simon Kjaer) and Right back (Richards) i know the players are unlikely but it is what we need.
(what do you think Ed?)
{Editor's Note: You are absolutely right - the players are unlikely to come.}
17 Oct 2010 16:10:25
Ed i know you keep saying liverpool don't sack managers quick and we need to give him time
but look at the results look at the performances not good not liverpool standard
tazz YNWA
{Editor's Note: I would like to see the fans, players and management team pull together to get Liverpool out of this mess. How do you think the players would have felt if they had read the postings here over the past few months. Just waiting for KopTalk or SoS to suggest we bombard the new owners with e-mails to say they should sack Roy Hodgson or we'll boycott all of the games. I appreciate it is not going well, but it would be good to see the fans help turn it around. Dalglish resigned from Liverpool nearly 20 years ago to retire from football, and even after returning he has been out of management for the past 10 years - he is not an obvious choice even as an interim manager.}
17 Oct 2010 16:10:20
PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! ROY HODGSON HAS TO GO. THAT WAS ONE OF THE WORST PERFORMANCES I HAVE WITNESED IN A LONG TIME. NO PASSION, NO QUALITY, NO PACE, NO FLAIR, NO NOTHING. THE MANAGER LOOKS WELL OUT OF HIS DEPTH ON THE TOUCH LINE. HAVING A ONE HIT SEASON WITH FULHAM DOSE NOT MAKE YOU A GOOD MANAGER I CAN THINK OF MANY MANAGERS THAT HAVE HAD GREAT SEASONS WITH LESSER SIDES, BUT IT DOSEN'T MAKE THEM GOOD MANAGERS. SOUNESS WOULD DO A BETTER JOB AND THAT'S SAYS A LOT FOR HODGSON.
17 Oct 2010 16:08:37
Come on Woy pack your bags and sling your hook!
King kenny in by next weekend!
17 Oct 2010 16:06:12
I'd say the best option for us (in case Roy goes) is Diego Maradona. At least we would have 10 strikers in the starting 11 for every game.
RHI
17 Oct 2010 16:05:27
Roy thinks we don't play bad enough to be in bottom three thought we played well in the game I must be missing something one half chance in 94minuites of football got to go or we will go down nearly a quater the way through season psv elnino
17 Oct 2010 16:05:02
Shelvey has got to be a better option than lucas. Babel/ Jovanovic on the wing with cole central has got to be better than Lucas. Why can't Skrtel make a challenge without giving stupid free kicks away? Too much dead wood being selected by Roy. Ok, he inherited a lot of it but what has he got to lose by giving Shelvey, Pacheco, or Amoo some game time, they can't do any worse than Lucas or Maxi.
17 Oct 2010 16:04:33
Its appropriate that an anagram of our famous initials is YAWN! Yet again another loss. Its not just the losing tho, its the way we lose. Our predictability, lack of creativity and any form of shape is one thing. But effort is the very least we shud expect. Once again we did absolutely nothing until we were behind and yet again made our possession count for nothing. We are so easy to defend against because we just pass sideways until we get frustrated and try a killer pass or aimless cross. And our bench means we can do nothing really to change our approach. I think the fact that after gerrard our best player was babel speaks volumes as he was only on the pitch for 15mins. Im not sayin he's the solution but he needs to play more, certainly ahead of ngog! Its easy after a defeat to say it, but I honestly didn't think we had a chance today. This squad is finished and needs to be completely rebuilt. Unfortunately until jan we are stuck so at the very least we need a manager who is prepared to pick his team based on merit and not reputation. What we need now is guts and heart to see us through this nightmare and who better than a few youngsters, desperate to make their mark. Im sorry but if carragher is not gonna be played at CB then his place in the team is pointless. Amoo, ince, spearing, shelvey, pacheco, sterling. Lets see what they can do. They certainly can't perform any worse than the likes of lucas, poulsen, maxi, jovanavic, ngog, etc, etc. Show me some effort and desire liverpool, and il support you no matter what.
As for our manager my support of him is down to his reaction to this game. If he tries to defend us and mentions anything to do with 'not being able to fault our effort and or commitment' then he should just leave. If however he comes out and says we were a disgrace and that he expects and demands much more, then il keep faith that he's the man for us.
Redfish
17 Oct 2010 16:04:30
We were awfull today it was disgracefull!
When we appointed roy i was happy as i thought he would bring the best out of our fringe player and in turn make our star players shine unfortunatly he dosnt seem up to the job! I try to back managers and argue they need a chance but in this case i think its time to make a statement and try and appoint gus hiddink massively respected will be able to attract top player and maybe just maybe get the mess on the pitch back to winning ways! What do you think chances of appointing him ed? Any thoughts
RedRodge
{Editor's Note: Hiddink already has a job.}
17 Oct 2010 16:04:23
Roy thinks we played well was willing to give him a chance but listening to him talk after the game think he's out if his depth.
17 Oct 2010 16:04:06
Really disappointed with hodgson, when raga left we needed someone to come in an bring a complete change around, a complete fresh start, Roy has unfortunately just carried off were Benitez left off in all aspects, same formation, players out of position, poor transfer decisions, poor squad morale, complete lack of belief and/ or confidence, who thinks we should give Kenny a half a year to see what he can do? liverpools team really need 3/ 4 of an overhaul, if we keep on like this, sadly we really will be in a drelegation struggle come may, sad times for Liverpool football club, . . .P.s any update on this supposed Chinese investment with NESV?
17 Oct 2010 16:03:33
We need a ch half that can bring the ball out of defence and push are players forward we always seem short of bodies supporting the front man time to find a new hansen and lawrenson heres a test for the fans who would you buy and what would be your formation
long time red
17 Oct 2010 16:03:17
Not goin to say i told u so wel i am really . king kenny i wanted replace rafa in the summer. roy a lovly man but not good enuff 4 liverpool end of story. an he can take sammy lee wit em players hav to look in mirror wat displeased me today was how everton out battled us men against boys an that not good enff unforgivable really. maxi a joke lucus useless. cole lost gerrard a pain in his back from carring us. srytl an keyriagos not good enuff like meirless torres just no supply to him.reina is a great keeper carragher a good squad player. . . . . . all we did today was play sideways no width am sick of saying this we hav had no width for years kenny would sort out the lot of em. . . . . . . sorry roy please goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww an y does roy wait until we are 2 down to attack an wait 70 mins to bring on subs. . . . . ?? ?? ?
17 Oct 2010 16:03:11
""Today i am most sympathetic to our supporters in liverpool. D Everton supporters are gonna be all ova us. Time for a change. We need more freedom in attacking. ROY doesn't give us that. Look at some of the other teams, youngsters are coming throug shining, we don't even have our youngsters; shelvey, pacheco, amoo, etc on the bench. WTF? ?""
Even as a United fan i have to agree with this lad, if the current crop are not doing it then bring in the youth, as a United fan i feel the same way about United, why isn't Obertan, Cleverley or Welbeck playing?
Sometimes managers need to take a gamble, sometimes it doesn't come off but sometimes it does, if Gerrard or Scholes was not given the chance would they be the players they are today? So i am with you Scouse leave Rooney & Torres on the bench and play Macheda & Pacheco.
17 Oct 2010 16:01:22
If you look at the body language of L'pool. it's all wrong. Whenever they get the ball they always facing their own goal. Their passes are always backwards which shows their lack of confidence / lack of forward thinking players. This all stems from the MANAGER. I hate to say it but ROY must go. What do u think ED??
{Editor's Note: I am not going to get dragged in to commenting on what are knee jerk reaction based comments after a pretty poor performance.}
Trishan
17 Oct 2010 16:00:13
We are not amused roy please do the decent thing and resign you are out of your depth, you tried your best, you are a nice bloke and all but don't do to us what you did to blackburn.
looks like its rebuilding time guys and now we have new owners we need the best manager for the job, lets try to get Mr.Guus Hiddink to bring the glory days back.
17 Oct 2010 15:59:27
Can roy stop f* *ing LAUGHTHING . what the hell is wrong with him. Smiling while he shakes moyes hand . Now again in his interview.
Clearly has no emotion! Too nice , it does my head in.
I loved rafas interview and reaction. God i miss them!
Anyone else fed up of roys laughing?
Harry5:)
17 Oct 2010 15:59:08
I have never seen liverpool in this state before time for a change we need to change things we need a ch a defensive midfielder alongside gerrard 2 natural wingers with pace a strike partner fror torres with pace and we need a rb still time to get rid of some deab wood
outs
the greek
konchesky
lucas
babel
maxi
kuyt
poulsen
meireles
ins
turan
gomez
benega
defour
cahill
mata
lopez
allfey
bastos
r johnson
those 10 players are needed and needed in jan and next summer
if liverpool have not improved by mid december expect woy to be shown the door a new manager needed and aa new formation not torres on his own its not working we need a 4-4-2 at the moment we need to get in players who want to play for liverpool not just come here cause no one else wants them and its an easy pay day i can see the americans sitting down with carragher reina gerrard and torres and wanting to build the team around them sucess will come but its all on hoow much they want to spend spend big in jan and the summer then you won't need to spend much after that for at least 3 or 4 years you would have a team and the chance to use some talented younger players of the bench we got to have faith
long time red
17 Oct 2010 15:59:04
I don't see Roy getting sacked.
What do you think ed. Whats the percentage of roy being in charge for the europa league fixture or the next games
17 Oct 2010 15:59:00
Althought we got beat today got to say it wasnt the worst performance. Mereiles has improved today, that's what I liked about him at Porto getting forward and shooting. Also when Babel came on didn't look as bad and didn't need 3 touch's to control the ball.
I have to agree with people on here about hodgson, I think everyone needs to get behind him but I don't have any faith in him, I don't think he's the man for the job but I don't think chanting Dalglish is gonna help anyone. Although if you look what they both did at Blackburn there is only 1 choice. I would like to see Guus Hiddink. I know Benitez wouldn't have started like this but at the same time I think he had, had his chance.
Now everyone has been talking about line ups, how Roy can play maxi on the right I can't understand it, hes the only player with less pace than carra, I think it would be better playing gerrard on the right and maxi off torres or not at all lol.
Would love to see Honda coming in and Pavlyuchenko come in as he would be great back up. The team still needs some width so I think playin johnson on the right wing would be better as he can't defend. I don't think mata would suit the prem, and I know Aguero might be good on fifa but in reality he doesn't produce enough on a regular basis.
Please post ed, first time poster been reading the site about a year now.
RED BOB
17 Oct 2010 15:58:47
Lucas is not good enough, Skrtel is not good enough, Maxi is not good enough, (unfortunately)Carragher is not good enough, Ngog is not good enough.
Though not many positives came from todays game, I thought Meireles played well (2nd half), looks like he'll find his feet pretty soon. Babel also looked lively for the few minutes he was on the pitch. Wingers needed desperately in Jan (actual wingers though, not strikers who we then play on the wing).
17 Oct 2010 15:58:34
17 Oct 2010 15:45:15
Not a massive rafa supporter but at least we looked like we had a game plan. I just hope the new owners don't wait until it's to late.
I think you have hit he nail on the head. You just don't know what the players are meant to do at the moment. They just seem devoid of ideas. A severe lack of pace everywhere on the pitch. Konchesky should have blocked the cross for the millionth time we've conceded from a cross & Meireles left Arteta on the edge of the box looking for a quick break. Everton were there for the taking today & an even half descent Liverpool team would have hammered them. So depressing.
The Irish Rover
17 Oct 2010 15:57:45
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH - Enough said! :o(
17 Oct 2010 15:57:34
Im all for giving the manager time
but liverpool is in the results business players should play were they are best apart from johnson would push him forward and bring kelly in
we have beaten west brom in the premier league in 8 games
something must be wrong i think the biggest think is tactics the players don't look comfortable the way they are being asked to play
something as to change and quickly
What is the answer i don't know maybe it is to change the manager?
ed can you give a answer
i think you will say he needs time but how much time do you give him when not only have the results been bad but also the performances by not only the team but also individually each players performance seem to have dropped badly playing the tactics they are
tazz YNWA
p.s will always KEEP THE FAITH even if it gets tested to the max
17 Oct 2010 15:56:42
Dalglish NOW! ! No-one is motivated to play for Hodgson. Does anyone know what him and Sammy Lee are doing to these players on the training field? These players are good enough to manage themselves, they just need a motivator. KK is the man for the moment. Short term Kenny, then Hudinck. I'm near to tears here and it's not even 4 o clock
17 Oct 2010 15:56:10
I wouldn't be so disappointed if there were signs of improvement but we look like we are getting worse. Any logical thinker knew Roy wasn't the man when we appointed him. We tried to get other people before him and he was a last choice. He should step down now.
17 Oct 2010 15:55:53
Maxi was rubbish. Lucas was rubbish. Joe Cole was rubbish. Skrtel was rubbish.
(( i thought skrtel played quite well. He was a rock
Harry5
yeh skrtel was our best player along with stevie
17 Oct 2010 15:55:35
Well that was terrible. No passion, no self belief, no direction. If things do not pick up soon I would like to see either Gus Hiddink or Louis Van Gaal come in.
17 Oct 2010 15:54:39
Everton vs liverpool 17 october 2010 player ratings
reina 5/ 10 not in power to stop any of the 2 goals.
Konchesky 0/ 10 someone mentioned long ago that having baldies in our team was bad i think that guy was spot on. He was s* t today. If not for Skrtel i could not think of the scoreline
Skrtel 7/ 10 best player imo. Made several crucial tackles and made up for the errors of the entire defence. Needs to grow some hair though
kygriakos 5/ 10 didn't look comfortable today for some odd reason. Not at power to stop any of the 2 goals as well
carragher 1/ 10 poooor but not entirely his fault. Will elaborate later
Meireles 0/ 10 portugese version of lucas, but only worst. Back and square passes and several weak shots. Didn't he score a screamer in midweek? What happened? Waste of 11 mil
Lucas 1/ 10 virtually non existent
cole 1/ 10 non existent either
gerrard 4/ 10 he looked tired he needs to stop shouldering so much responsibility
maxi 0/ 10 cut in unnecessarily on many occasions and left carra exposed on that right flank
torres 2/ 10 starved of possesion by lucas and meireles
ed what do you think
{Editor's Note: I am not going to get dragged in to commenting on what are knee jerk reaction based comments after a pretty poor performance.}
17 Oct 2010 15:54:29
Re: 17 Oct 2010 15:43:31
Torres once again not interested
Roy waits too long to bring on subs and when he does they are wrong
Time to go and bring in someone who can talk to nando and get him to play well
This is a disgrace
Torres can't be blamed for not gettin any service. All these negative comments bout TORRES are sh1t. If he was given any sort of decent service he WOULD score. .
17 Oct 2010 15:54:20
Why can't Hodgson understand that while playing defensive football we will not succeed! He should bare in mind that we are not Fulham, it is not in our tradition to play defensive football. How many goal opportunities you expect to create while playing defensively and how can you expect to win a match when you get two, three shots at goal! If in the next match he will play like we did today then he is should be fired! !
Mauritian LFC fans
17 Oct 2010 15:54:18
Its not just the fans out here who want Roy out. Steve macmahon, former liverpool player is exasperated to see liverpool not playing the way liverpool play. He has urged the new owners to make a statement of their ambition with this club by spending a mere 3million in terminating roy's contract - a gamble which he feels will succeed. Secondly he fears Roy wasting 40-50 million in the january window on deadwood which the club already has.
He finds lucas , maxi as players who never deserved to pull on the liverpool shirt , asking maxi to pack his bags.
Come on John-sack roy or make him resign with humility or have a mutual agreement. We are 19th in the league now!
Breathtaking PHOENIX
Red for life!
17 Oct 2010 15:53:56
The new owner was holding his head today because he realised how bad we are and he gave 100 mill to much and he could have used that to start a major change in personal.
We need to go to a 4-4-2 in the last 20 we played well and attacked the team that finished the gave should have started the game
We should look at
marin werder bremen he actually attacks people and get chopped=free kicks
suarez, higuain, aguero we only need 1 of. They will make a huge difference because torres alone up top means he has to beat 3 defenders before he can score.
17 Oct 2010 15:53:37
NESV Want winners and hodgson is not one.
Pelligrini would be great. What better for them by hireing the current world cup holders manager
Also alonso may rejoin us. . Yep pee!
Harry5
17 Oct 2010 15:52:50
Sack roy hes got 2 go , and bring in Pellegrini , roy has not got a clue what 2 do get out roy . . .
17 Oct 2010 15:52:37
Roy has to go . If he is there . em sure we will be fighting for Football Championship next season! . his tactics are just soo Lame . He never learns from his mistakes . dun knw whats goin on in his mind .!
I did support him at the start when he got 1 or 2 good signings for us . but when he loaned out Aquilani . I started having doubts on him . Aquilani was wayyy bettterr than Maxi, Lucas, Poulsen or any other Crap! . and positively he was FIT this time atleast! . should have given him a chance !.
Apart from that . we have seen no tactics from him . geeting beaten by the teams like Blackpool and then Merseyside Derby is just Unacceptable! .
I started crying during the match! :( . Mr. Roy Hodgson Please RESIGN! . or Board Show him the EXIT DOOR! . . its just unacceptable . so much damage done by him . Rafa was poor with Cash in Transfers but atleast he kept us Fighting! . Missing him Badly!
Please Bring a new Manager! . Pelligrini, Rijkaard or Klinsmann! . they can turn our fortunes!
REd is in My BLOOD!
{Editor's Note: Aquilani went because he wanted to.}
17 Oct 2010 15:52:30
What a load of s* t
konchesky, maxi, lucas, poulsen, the greek, babel, johnson, kuyt, cole and torres all need to go, hodgson needs to be sacked today he has not got a clue he looked lost on the touch line, if this carries on we will get relegated, i can't see were our next win is coming from, i can't see what kenny D can do with this team of rafa and hodgson misfits
god help us(but it seems even the gods are against us)
17 Oct 2010 15:52:22
Im not one for sacking woy, but time is ticking. clean slate i say.
carra is no rb, leave him at cb, why not play kelly? not as if everton's osman was smashing carra? carra is a cb and keeps the line, kelly can pass, make runs and young/ raw.
give babel a go, looks dangerous on the ball in and around box. even more needed when torres is still finding time. tell him to forget everything, obviously the guy has had a tough run with rafa and even woy already but i respected his effort today.
lucas is out the door jan, he can't play dm. not his fault, was signed as an AM and we already have stevie and JC.
diamond midfield i say, maybe produce a quality DM from somewhere for it but means JC, meirles and stevie can float in between each other cause they looked so much better doing it today after 60 mins.
even though im an aussie, cahill is viewed as pretty arrogant down here. anyone see him run pass coleman - didn't recognise him at all (like at all, not even after his sh1t celebration). .
YNWA
red snake
17 Oct 2010 15:52:07
WTF is going on. . . Come on Woy do the decent thing and go
17 Oct 2010 15:49:12
Today i am most sympathetic to our supporters in liverpool. D Everton supporters are gonna be all ova us. Time for a change. We need more freedom in attacking. ROY doesn't give us that. Look at some of the other teams, youngsters are coming throug shining, we don't even have our youngsters; shelvey, pacheco, amoo, etc on the bench. WTF? ?
17 Oct 2010 15:48:48
Dalglist to take over NOW please! ! ! !
17 Oct 2010 15:47:55
At this point who will want to come to us in January ?
17 Oct 2010 15:46:54
After that performance today liverpool fc are in real trouble.no pride, no passion, no dersire very poor.hodgson doesn't seem to no what hes best team is or be able to g the players up.i think its time to go for roy before its too late.what do you think ed.
17 Oct 2010 15:46:08
Hope Roy is sacked and either Dalglish or Pellegrini is brought in. .
Any thoughts ed!
{Editor's Note: Pellegrini would be an excellent choice - not Dalglish.}
17 Oct 2010 15:45:28
Whispers going round that hodgson will resign/ be sackef after the chelsea match, kenny dalglish will take control until next summer, manuel pellegrini will then take control. Dont shoot the messenger!
I for one Bloody hope Roy goes (i don't like to call for heads but you know . . .) bring a quality tactically aware man cetainly not O'Neill, i would bring in Pellegrini now but unfortunatley i don't call the shots.LFC1
17 Oct 2010 15:45:24
Even babel had a spark at the end . Much better than maxi, we had no width AT ALL.
Harry5:(
17 Oct 2010 15:45:15
Not a massive rafa supporter but at least we looked like we had a game plan. I just hope the new owners don't wait until it's to late.
17 Oct 2010 15:44:42
So Hogdson needs time? What for? To turn us into Burnley? We have decent players who can't string a pass together. 80 minutes until he brought on Babel?! Konchesky, Poulson - these aren't LFC calibre players. Lowest common denominator. Hodgson and (especially! !) Sammy Lee need to go! ASAP. Huudinck, O'Neill, ? - someone who can motivate & manage good players. This is painful.
17 Oct 2010 15:44:16
I think Roger Johnson and Kevin Doyle would improve our squad massively. Obviously I would like Bastos, Suarez, Aguero and Mata, but I don't think it's realistically going to happen.
I watched Johnson play at Wycombe many times and he was class, couldn't fault him. He's solid and under-rated. Wouldn't cost much either and would be 10x better than the Greek.
Kevin Doyle has always performed, even though he's been in poor squads.
These two would add massive stability to our squad.
I also think Di Matteo would be a good manager for us. Young, wants to prove himself at the top level and could build a legacy.
17 Oct 2010 15:43:35
This must be the end of Roy Hodgson - there is something not right, we are rid of the crooks but on the pitch it is not right, and that has nothing to do with the boardroom and all to do with the management.
Some of the selection decisions and way we look reminds me very much of us under Souness! He does not as a manager seems to have a presence either at Melwood or on the touchline.
So the question is who leads us next? It really is a difficult one, however from the start O'Neil is not for Liverpool, there is no-one else with Prem League experience to bring in so it's going to be someone else? What about swapping Capello for Hodgson?
Otherwise we need someone with European experience - Van Basten, Koeman, Deschamps?
17 Oct 2010 15:43:31
Torres once again not interested
Roy waits too long to bring on subs and when he does they are wrong
Time to go and bring in someone who can talk to nando and get him to play well
This is a disgrace
17 Oct 2010 15:43:07
The performance against everton was the worst performance ive seen from a lpool team, TORRES POOR, TIME TO GO, HAS NO GUTS, LUCAS, MAXI, CARRA, THE LONG HAIRED GREEK, JOE COLE, BABEL, JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH, AND WOY IS NOT BIG ENOUGH NAME TO MANAGE LPOOL, BRING BACK KING KENNY
17 Oct 2010 15:41:46
Guys it's time for KING KENNY to come back. Roy can't take us forward! were still playing the Benitiz way with one up front, Not good enough. New owners new manager not to late for a top for finish need to act now!
What do you think ed please reply back
Redman10
{Editor's Note: Dalglish is not the answer.}
17 Oct 2010 15:41:36
I'm sorry but Roy has to go, you cannot keep saying he needs time, look what he did to Blackburn.Last season at Fulham was a fluke, same thing happened with George Burley at Ipswich when he won manager of the season in 2001, next season they went down.I was never Rafa's biggest fan but one thing i am certain of. . we would not be in this position now if he was still in charge.Roy plays totally the wrong football, negative tactics and limp excuses, we need a change and we need it now.
17 Oct 2010 15:41:10
To the fella who said this:
"I'm sorry to call for the manager's head at such an early stage but its very clear all is not right on the pitch. When rafa went everyone's first choice was martin o'neill so now is the time to give him a chance and have a complete fresh start. lordpud ynwa"
Martin O'Neill is NOT my first choice. I think he'd be a terrible choice. He's more in love with Manure. He doesn't have the track record that LFC need to get back to the top.
TN
17 Oct 2010 15:41:05
Gee that loss has burst our bubble. .
i hope roy plays babel this week in europa. he may be inconsistent (partly cause rafa played him into form then bench. .) but he has an actual dip and looks dangerous, more so as Torres is lacking it still.
heard something interesting the other maybe fernando hasnt had a form dip in his career? interesting thought. obviously at LFC he has been awesome but has his personal form suffered ever before he became professional.
Lucas was rubbish today, made me think i should be out there. i backed him up last year, but today he was awful. thinking he should play AM in the reserves maybe to try something different - considering that is what he was signed as? he struggles massively when his back is toward the forwards.
cole looks so much better with space, the wings are not his game.anyone thing the diamond midfield at chelsea would be one to work off considering we have no proper wingers? may have a problem regarding a DM spot but one thing is for sure Lucas should not be playing there and poulsen is too slow, but Cole will have more space to work in.
17 Oct 2010 15:40:41
To the guy that said bring in pellegrini, i couldnt agree more. i hoped he would get job in summer
17 Oct 2010 15:39:31
The players can't be totally to blame for this one. Players playing out of position, no attacking intention.
I've been patient enough with ROY but now i think he must go. He sets his team up to lose every game. .Making attacking changes at 80mins u can't expect to win anything. The setup needs to change. Torres gets no support/ service.
17 Oct 2010 15:39:03
19th tut tut
For all you supporters who called for RAFFA to be replaced by HODGSON . SHAME on you!
I'm not a raffa fan but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be anywhere near were we are now.
Shows how much you fans know about the game.
Hodgson's record was poor yet because he had a good cup run you called for him.
Bring in Dalglish now
Tut tut
17 Oct 2010 15:38:45
Do NOT i repeat Do NOT bring in oNeill i will get a stiff neck !
What do you say ED?
{Editor's Note: O'Neil is not the answer.}
17 Oct 2010 15:38:32
Any thoughts ed. . How long we are going to be managed by RH. . I think it would be great to see him sacked. . As he hasn't got nothing to deliver, now. . Today, it hurts to say but everton were 10 times better than us. . What u think, ed?
17 Oct 2010 15:38:23
Some players we desperatley need
Honda
turan
bastos
A.young
Roger johnson
Tom huddlestone
Marek hamsik
P.a.Gignac (Moved in summer so. )
L.Suarez
E.Dzeko
B.GOMIS
K.benzema
Z.ibrahimovic (RISK)
N.Subotic
M.Marin
Yawn yawn yawn, remember guys Henry is not a sugar daddy, far from it in fact. Liverpool will have a maximum of 20m to spend between now and next season. What everyone has to remember is Liverpool will only break even or make a profit when the stadium is expanded and Liverpool make the top four and rake in the Champions League money.
Liverpool are a long long way from that i am sure everyone will agree?
17 Oct 2010 15:37:34
Sorry but roy has to go the man has not got a clue no motavation just stands there picking his nosde say what you want about rafa but at least he was tactically aware and talked to the players during the match i know we have some very poor players but with the right manager we could do a lot better roy just seems out of his depth i am not a believer in sacking managers to soon but if thing don't change soon we will b e in a relagation battle lets not kid ourselves in thinking we're to big to go down remember leeds but its not lste but only if we change things now the question is the right man kenny o'neil hiddink i honestly don't know but its not roy be interested to hear your thoughts ED or any body
YNWA
17 Oct 2010 15:35:35
Lip reading; the two yonks were seen in close conversation app henry looked to have said "what the h*ck have we let our selves in for"? btw agger wants out!
17 Oct 2010 15:34:48
Its time for roy to go. I have never been a person to say get rid of the manager but enough is enough. Just hope we get king kenny in!
17 Oct 2010 15:34:10
Where was glen johnson today?
17 Oct 2010 15:34:00
Let's get this right here! Everton beat us easily with a carp striker up front who actually made Skertel look half descent. The worst start, not in Houllier's, Rafa's or even Souness's time, but in 57 years. Not something to be proud of Roy, your out of your depth.
The Irish Rover
17 Oct 2010 15:33:58
I no its early but roy has no idea, get him out get pellagrini in asap! even if rafa was still in charge we wudnt be this bad!
17 Oct 2010 15:33:40
17 Oct 2010 15:26:38
Maxi was rubbish. Lucas was rubbish. Joe Cole was rubbish. Skrtel was rubbish.
(( i thought skrtel played quite well. He was a rock
Harry5
17 Oct 2010 15:33:09
Reina - keep
agger - keep
carrager - keep but only as backup
johnson - keep as WINGER
koncheski - sell
the greek - sell
skertle - sell
auilio - sell
meirles - keep
gerrard - keep
lucas - gie him away just get rid
poulson - as above
babel - keep as back up
jovanovic - sell
ngog - keep
torres - 50/ 50 keep but only if he wants to be here otherwise cash in as to injury prone
cole - sell worst bit of business ever benyoon was much much much better player than this lad.
bring some youngsters through now, what we got to loose we can't win league and you got to see if there good enough, and in summer get rid all that crap up there and buy a few decent buys and get back to the LIVERPOOL WAY bringing youngsters through and playing football not all this long ball stuff,
message to the manager if your gonna play long baland narrow don't you think you should have 2 strikers in case for ny reason torres should win a header against one of the best teams in the league for balls in air, your tactics are a total and utter disgrace.
end of rant
17 Oct 2010 15:32:54
Sack roy please. He has done enough damage. . Whenever, we start, it seems that we are gonna lose. N that always happens. . Once again, he would be looking to put lame excuses. .
17 Oct 2010 15:32:07
I'm sorry to call for the manager's head at such an early stage but its very clear all is not right on the pitch. When rafa went everyone's first choice was martin o'neill so now is the time to give him a chance and have a complete fresh start. lordpud ynwa
17 Oct 2010 15:31:52
We can't keep playing Lucas . .Rubbish. . Konchesky . . Terrible. . Ngog. .no idea.
17 Oct 2010 15:30:55
Well beat today boys.
Something badly wrong there. If the new management are gonna sit down and have a proper review, it has to include the player's views on RH and his backroom team, cos its not right. Its not the Liverpool way to get shot straight away, so don't start that crack boys. But there needs to be a serious think. .
KB
17 Oct 2010 15:30:47
We are s* te sooner january comes the better ship out old s* t and bring in new s* t
17 Oct 2010 15:30:19
Sorry Roy . . . Time TO GO!
Bring in . . . . . Manuel Pellegrini
17 Oct 2010 15:30:17
As much as it pains me to say this, Everton deserved to win. Let's face it, we are not going to finish top 4, so at the moment it is damage limitation at least until January. The whole team needs to be changed, including Torres, who does not look up for it. The only players I would want to keep is Gerrard and Reina, but would they want to stay?
Yes there is still 30 games left, but we are going to go nowhere without any creativity or Roy's negative tactics.
17 Oct 2010 15:29:26
Goodbye hodgson
Cya later
Au revoir
Harry5:(
17 Oct 2010 15:27:16
NO HEART, NO GUTS, NO BALLS but we walk on YNWA
17 Oct 2010 15:26:38
Maxi was rubbish. Lucas was rubbish. Joe Cole was rubbish. Skrtel was rubbish.
17 Oct 2010 15:26:03
Well ed i believe that todays game has showed that roy hodgson should be sacked now as he aint got a clue and he is tactically niave. he can't even motivate the players for a derby game at this rate we will be relegated by xmas we need the board to SACK him now
17 Oct 2010 15:22:20
Roy has to go. No way we can keep him till the end of the season. Losing the merseyside derby is unacceptable and the last straw for me. He is not up to the task at all. Call me what you want but anyone who thinks hodgson is gonna turn this around needs my fist in their mouth. If rafa couldnt do it no way in hell is hodgson gonna do it.
Red bl00ded!
17 Oct 2010 15:21:59
We are not poor, we are utter s* * !
Roys tctics are awful and whatever he was doing at fulham isn't working here, hes had his time give it a few more weeks but Roy to be out by christmas i hope! as for the team we need a big big clear out, the players don't look interested, and as for Torres it'll be goodbye sooner or later,
out of the first team today id:
Reina - Keep
Johnson - Keep
Carragher - Bench
Kyriakos- Sell
Skrtel - Bench
Konchesky - Keep/ Bench
Gerrard - Keep
Meireles - Keep
Cole - Bench
Maxi - Sell
Torres - Keep
Agger - Keep (should be 1st team)
Kelly - Keep (should be 1st team)
Ngog - Keep (back up)
Babel - Sell
Jova - Bench
buy a new striker, defensive mid, creative mid and a whole new defence!
Savage
17 Oct 2010 15:21:26
Think hodg time is up, he has got to start using the youth players or were gonna be in very bigtrouble. yet again no width and nobody making decent runs from the midfield. Torres body language says it all he needs a partner and if hodgeson can't see that then hes got to go.
17 Oct 2010 15:21:09
I rekon Hodgson should start packing his bags! Liverpool are not playing the Liverpool way, he was supposed to bring stability not a skydive! !
17 Oct 2010 15:19:30
Only cloud still hanging over Liverpool is Roy hodgson. Good to see aquilani destroy lecce today. We should sign that kid!
17 Oct 2010 15:18:05
I'm a die hard Liverpool fan, but I do not understand our manager at all. Why oh why would you not change things at 2-0. JOSE would of done if he was in that situation.
17 Oct 2010 15:16:38
How are we supposed to beat Everton when the odds are so unfair? They have 11 players and we only have Pepe, Carra, Stevie, Meireles and Konchesky. So unfair.
17 Oct 2010 15:16:00
Why is it all liverpool managers always play it safe I personally would like to see some of the kid s play more I think shelvey is better than lucas amoo s faster than maxi kelly better than johnston and pacheco is class why on earth play the garbage week in week out john w henry needs to bite the bullet and sack woy not that I dislike him I just think we need to make a new clean start sack sammy as well time for the king to get his hands dirty get rid of the s'+te get a couple of youngsters playing regally and give a new manager good foundations to build on in the summer
17 Oct 2010 15:15:33
What's happened to our club? No wonder Torres looks unhappy. Can't blame him if he wants to go. No confidence no battle no hunger through the whole team. Organisation is poor and we don't like shooting. These are the worst performance I've ever seen. Least we look good in UEFA cup , I mean that is the basis on what we got our manager for.
17 Oct 2010 15:12:19
I'm not normally one to jump on a managers back so soon, but we have not played well since RH took over. I can't believe that NESV won't look at changing the manager ASAP. . . I can't see anything changing with him in charge.
17 Oct 2010 15:12:18
I hadnt cried for about 2 years until today. .
17 Oct 2010 15:11:43
It would be a sad day for football if Liverpool sacked me - Roy Hodgson
You're right Roy it would be a sad day, Then we might win a match and be a threat again and instead of teams laughing at us we they would be scared. So roy is right Sad day for other teams when we win again without Roy incharge, Good for noticing roy! !
17 Oct 2010 15:11:24
Sorry but this is not working since the hull win last year liverpool have been uninspiring and painful to watch. i like Hodgson as a manager but sadly not at liverpool, he has not made any inspiring changes as he leaves subs till the 80th (finally took lucas off after 70) the team look like they have no desire to win what so ever. torres looks like a moody teen just not in the game. need to be changed someone inspiring and who will chop the deadwood and get winners in to the team, hope january brings that under hodgson but deep down i just can't see it happening.
17 Oct 2010 15:11:08
Roy Hodgson: nice guy but seriously not up to the job. He has got it wrong yet again. Liverpool is a team of international players and they haven't become dog poo overnight - the tactics are wrong and the players look frustrated. Torres isn't a long-ball receiver, Carragher's not a right winger, no-one's harassing Everton and Maxi & Lucas should have been sold instead of quality midfielders like Aqua & Yossi. Very sad. Let's hope NESV have another manager in mind.
17 Oct 2010 15:10:49
Just seen Mr.Henry shaking hands with Kenny it's a done deal.
King Kenny is BACK
New Liverpool manager
17 Oct 2010 15:10:26
WTF is going on?. . . . .come on woy do the right yhing and resign. .NOW
17 Oct 2010 15:10:25
After our performance today is there any doubt that roy is'nt the right man for the job! John Henry is probably asking where the FOOTBALL team he bought is going to show up. :(
17 Oct 2010 15:06:24
Dear or dear editor I thought you had something about yourself, to say Roy needs till the end of the season is rubbish. If that was the case then it's Brammel Lane next season for us.
RedAk1
17 Oct 2010 15:05:00
Roy has to go! As well as sammy Lee! I have been a Liverpool fan since 1974 and I have never seen a worse Liverpool team! I know Liverpool always give there managers a chance and support them! But I feel Roy Hodgson is damaging us! His buys have been very poor! Konchesky very poor and Poulsen very poor as well! Why let aqualini go to juve and Insua to gala when your squad is paper thin!
17 Oct 2010 15:02:14
Thank h*ck that Everton have that fat h*ck, Yakubu up front. This is embarrarsing. Come on Roy, do something fhs!
The Irish Rover
17 Oct 2010 15:01:33
This is hurting me watch my club play like this, were is the spark gone they seem to not to want to play for us, I'm sorry roys got to go FACT
17 Oct 2010 15:01:00
I don't know about you guys but i see Roy getting the sack after this bloody game. How came he play soto in th middle and put carragher on the right when kelly could have done this job much better. This is just ridiculous. And what is torres doing everytime he's having the ball he's just passing it back for F* k sake its not handball we don't need to pass the ball back to score, a bit a creativity would be great. ARRRRRRRRGH
17 Oct 2010 15:00:38
3:0 i bet they score on counter. They should be thrashing us! !
Harry5
17 Oct 2010 14:58:16
Subs subs subs where the h*ck are they,
Sac sack sack sack
Harry5
17 Oct 2010 14:56:46
To blair maine (ynwa lol) honda begging to join liverpool? funny that as he would prefer arsenal, chelsea or man city try a nissan insted you've more chance
more like del boys relient robin or a crappy skoda fits the bill
17 Oct 2010 14:55:53
Get hodgson out before he does what he done with Blackburn. Yes the players arent performing but obviously somethings up doesn't look like what hodgsons trying to do is working.
17 Oct 2010 14:55:45
Is it me or doe's Graham Taylor talk sh't?
Lee
17 Oct 2010 14:53:40
One thing that as annoyed more for so long is gerrard never seems to clear the first man when taking a corner
it annoys me so much
world class player but sorry cannot take a corner
tazz YNWA
17 Oct 2010 14:52:02
And Bring on babel and ngog
Harry5
17 Oct 2010 14:51:09
Take off torres NOW! !
17 Oct 2010 14:50:12
Hodgson should resign hes cleary not up to the task, he reminds me of a sad and sorry steve mclaren stood under his brolly to avoid the rain, pathetic
17 Oct 2010 14:46:37
Sorry ed but roy the oap hodgson got his tactics wrong again for the 3rd game running! Kingplfc
17 Oct 2010 14:45:41
Rafa anyone?
17 Oct 2010 14:45:40
In response
{Editor's Note: He should get to the end of the season.}
ed please, hes already lost the dressing room when that happens there is no turning it around.
summer torres will definatly go.
17 Oct 2010 14:45:06
Hi new to site can any1 tell me what john henrys plans are?
17 Oct 2010 14:42:49
What the f is up with liverpool, its either the players are just not wantin to play for us or the tactics being used are s* te
17 Oct 2010 14:42:43
Oh dear oh dear, i realy hope the owners do wats needed and bring in a new manager, roys had 8 games now and its just getting worse, hes already lost the dressing room that's painfully obvious.
We need someone who knows how to play attacking free flowing football. its painfull to watch, we need someone young and let him rebuild, Rijckard or dechamps somebody of that mould
17 Oct 2010 14:34:25
Do the HODGSON fans ( the ones who said he's good enough just on one good cup run) still think he's the man?
17 Oct 2010 14:26:15
PLEASE REMOVE ROYY! ! He is of no USE!
17 Oct 2010 14:24:17
Roys got to go
17 Oct 2010 14:24:10
Utter GARBAGE, Roy ya out of your depth! !
Tactically naieve man management skills pityfull.
This is worse now than when Raffa was ere.
Am sorry fellow reds but it's the truth we are in the s* t and we have to face this. Our bench today in total cost is 15 million and 11 million of that is babel enough said.
We have 3 more months of this till January and then the prospect of been in the bottom half for the rest of the season.
I say change now sack Roy who has lost the respect of his senior players and bring back King Kenney to install the Liverpool pride.
RedAk1
17 Oct 2010 14:24:00
Im sorry but hodgson needs to go.
our team is more rigid than my grandad. We have no fluidity. The back four are sitting on the edge of the area then when they win it they smash it up to torres who, even if he does win it, has no support.
Its terrible. I think that there have been enough games to judge imo. we are almost a quarter through the season. Its just not good enough. I really wish i could stick by the manager but its just not working and it will continue to not work.
17 Oct 2010 14:23:45
Ed how long do you think nesv will give hodgson to turn things around?i know things have been up in the air but this just isn't good enough at the moment
{Editor's Note: He should get to the end of the season.}
17 Oct 2010 14:22:17
What does the FOOTBALL in Liverpool Football Club stand for these days?
Red bl00ded
17 Oct 2010 14:21:25
Roy has to go we can not let him have any money to spend.lucas in all the time does nothing maxi nothing from him even more negative than rafa and i did not think that was possible.dont no if you will post as every time i try never end up on here.
{Editor's Note: Very few posts do not make it through ...}
17 Oct 2010 14:21:19
Right. Im sick of it. We are terrible. Why can we not win, score, run or even pass! We are so terrible I've never seen anything like it. Ed can you or someone else please tell me why we are such a sh*ep team?
17 Oct 2010 14:07:48
Lucas sucks . He is s* t . Wat was he doing there? Thought if we removed johnson we would not concede. But there s another johnson there-lucas. .
{Editor's Note: I have always thought that the club have played him out of position.}
17 Oct 2010 13:56:16
Mr Henry seems like is in the buying business of sports venture only for the money. He does not seem interested in the game neither in talking to Broughton or any british to learn the game. Damn r the americans at it again? ?
17 Oct 2010 13:21:43
To blair maine (ynwa lol) honda begging to join liverpool? funny that as he would prefer arsenal, chelsea or man city try a nissan insted you've more chance
17 Oct 2010 13:21:36
Ed is there no chat today
{Editor's Note: Sadly wrong Ed has picked up this message - I don't know is the answer.}
17 Oct 2010 13:14:15
We, re doomed no puolson
17 Oct 2010 13:13:06
We should by a left winger/ left back like bastos because konchesky is poor. we should definitly sign a stricker not gomes but someone who will get between 10-20 goals a season like sergio aguero. Then we should by a CB because carragher is about past it we should by hangeland.
17 Oct 2010 13:11:07
To Blaire Mayne and eds .
Do you see Roy or any manager at the time of january recieving 40 to 50 million for transfers in the january transfer window? Even if the team is still not doing great then?
I don't think so. I see a max of 25mil plus player sales. Although it goes upto 40 million this way, it still doesn help. Cos we have to fill in for the players sold at that point as well. .
Breathtaking PHOENIX
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If NESV provide funds (20 mill) and player sales (15-20 mill) and don't forget the 10-15 mill we have left in our player account which we tried to buy Carlton Cole with on deadline day and failed (thank h*ck).
40-50 mill in January could for me easily be achieved. But would i trust Roy to spend it well i'd have to say no for two reasons Poulson and Carlton Cole attempted purchace.
Away to match the match in the pub COME ON LFC!
Blair Mayne YNWA
PS. The players have no more excuse's they have to standup and be counted today!
{Editor's Note: There is nothing left in the pot from the summer. I cannot see the owners handing over a pile of cash either. Expect the coaching team to have to approach the board regarding any purchases and justify the expenditure. When it is agreed, then the other player's club will be approached. Anything other than minor tweaking (one pehaps two players) in January will be disruptive.}
17 Oct 2010 13:03:30
OK So I was right about rooney and Johnno isn't playing either I believe that 2/ 2
17 Oct 2010 12:53:02
I would love to see Bastian schweinsteiger into our club , honestly the best midfielder around . him and gerrard would be topclass together, and maybe bring in Honda aswell. gerrard , schweinsteiger and honda , what a dream midfield would that be .
also Turan on the wings and maybe Hamsik .
and rightback should also be replaced. drop johnson . either put kelly on his spot or bring .
Van der wiel From ajax
17 Oct 2010 12:48:46
Just seen Van de Saar's blunder v West Brom yesterday. Ha what a c* t
17 Oct 2010 12:46:21
Hi ed so looking forward 2 the game today COME ON THE SUPER POOL THE NEW START 4 US IS HEAR.whot i wanted 2 say is im well happy with the new owners they were all over little gaffa an the players so nice 2 see that ed. ok i know they have only been hear 3 days but they are ticking all the the right boxes 4 me ed.the way they went to little gaffa an the players telling them they are hands on an(THAT THE CHOPPY WATERS ARE GONE)THAT THERE GOING 2 THE GAME TODAY WILL OPEN THERE EYES 2 WHOT ITS ALL ABOUT HELL YER WELCOME 4 SURE. THE PLAYERS MUST BE LIFTED THE FEEL GOOD FACTOR, ITS WHOT IS NEEDED AT THE MIN. ED THE FEELING IS RIGHT THE LIVERPOOL WAY IS WELL ON THE WAY TO BEING BACK IN PLACE.THE OWNERS SAYING that little gaffa is SAFE loving that ed. THE PLAYERS NEED 2 START GETTING THE JOB DONE FOOTBALL ALL THE WAY HAPPY DAYS roy is the man that well get this done ed 4 sure he will MAKE IT WORK WITH TIME GOOD LUCK THE POOL HAVE IT THE BOYS. JAY ESSEX RED 4 LIFE RED TILL DEAD. WITH HOPE BOYS WITH HOPE. . {ed's note - the players have no excuses now - it is time to perform or leave and be replaced by someone who will perform.}
17 Oct 2010 12:25:17
These are the players I would be happy if we signed a few : Strikers
Aguero athletic Madrid
Dzeko wolfsburg
Forlan athletic Madrid
Llorente althetic Bilbao
Lopez Lyon
Nilmar villareal
Wingers
Jesus navas Sevilla
Ashley young Aston villa
Arda turan galatasaray
Juan mata Valencia
Afellay psv
Centre midfield
Defour standard liege
Left back
Marcello real Madrid
17 Oct 2010 12:12:42
Hi ed just voted on a poll on either to make anfield bigger or build new ground myself build new ground i know the history our great club has and im proud everytime i visit anfield but i think to build a new ground would also bring some freshness into the city itself would you agree the liverpool people deserve the best im from n.ireland myself but love liverpools way of life quite similar to ours {ed's note - I would rather expand Anfield, I have never liked the idea of a new stadium myself. I have too close a personal attachment to Anfield.}
That and the fact that, unless we sort it out somehow - a 60,000 seater will sound like one big silent library. It is essential that we get the fans singing again - how hard can it be? {ed's note - my idea would be to sell the tickets in areas, rather than specific seats. Kop tickets would be singing tickets - if you aren't making enough noise you should be ejected! But selling just areas would allow people to move to sit by friends and then they can sing a long with their mates, it is much easier to do that than it is to sing with a bunch of strangers.}
17 Oct 2010 12:07:41
"Who was woy looking at in Belgium? Defour? lukaku? Any idea? I think this lukaku lad would be a gem. Ed do you think we will when today? Would you like any of the above players?"
I posted about this the other day, but didn't get chance to check if it made it on, but here goes again - please stop referring to Roy Hodgson as 'Woy'. It undermines him - and how the hell does it help him or the team to do so? So if you want the soap opera to continue with him getting the sack because he's lost the team & fans carry on. Every small thing makes a difference, especially now with things seemingly looking up.
He's our manager give him a little respect.
17 Oct 2010 11:05:36
To the person who wrote carragher should be sent out of the team, out of the club.! complete and utter nonsense.! disgraceful really.
i know he hasnt been at the top of his game lately but so hasnt the rest of the team. perhaps we should throw everyone out. maybe we should change the name of the team aswell.!
personally i believe carragher hasnt been at the top because him and skrtel can't play well together. (someone please confirm by thoughts)
carragher and agger is the partnership in defence that's strong. agger moves forward but is always back to defend strongly. skrtel sometimes seemingly goes off and has no idea where he should be positioned to defend best.
carragher is and always has been the rock of defence for liverpool because you will always find him in our own half fighting with all his heart, putting his body in the way of the goal, for liverpool, infact, these are the sorts of players we need at our club.
i whole heartedly agree with the above also how is carra supposed to play to his full ability when he has to babysit jhonson and skirtl?
hipkop07
17 Oct 2010 11:04:10
Anfield could not be expanded to the size that we would need, 60,000 stadium is not big enough.we need 75,000 to bring in the revenue that the gunners bring in as they can charge more in london, plus the new stadium needs to be built with a view to be expanded again later on.while the new ground is being built we will still be playing at Anfield so no loss of revenue but if Anfield was to be expanded we will lose revenue as each stand is rebuilt.Access to Anfield is not good not enough parking, all needs to be improved.The new stadium could be used 7 days aweek with purpose built resturantes, conference rooms, shops and museum.we need to look ahead not just 5 years but for the next 20 to 30 years.
17 Oct 2010 10:40:19
I hope Liverpool gets Turan and Honda in January. . Both are great players! Any thoughts ed?
{Editor's note - They are both brilliant players and would improve the team a lot}
17 Oct 2010 09:39:27
ED,
My unbeatable team for derby
GK JONES
RB KONCHESKY
CB SKERTL
CB GREEK
LB CARRA
RW MERIELLES
MF LUCAS
MF SPEARING
LW BABEL
FW JOVANOVIC
FW NGOG
Your views
pace width and passion this team wud rollover the toffees {ed's note - it is far too early for me to wake up enough to decide if you are taking the pee or not. But if you aren't then I fear for your sanity....}
17 Oct 2010 09:38:53
Poulsen on compassionate leave? hope everything is ok but still can't help thinking it may be good for who hodgson picks to play.
17 Oct 2010 08:57:01
Expanding Anfield is not an option. . the cost of buying countless streets of houses and then getting new road layouts etc to allow for the flow of traffic would be huge. . . . plus there is no way Liverpool city council will pass planning permission for Anfield's expansion. They want regeneration for the area and that will only come if the new stadium is built!
I have been a Kopite all my life from the days of the boys pen at the kop end all the way through having p*ss on my shoes standing on the Kop to the new modern seating. .seen it all the expansion the development everything but even with all that I firmly believe we have to go to a new huge modern ground! we have to evolve or we will dissolve!
17 Oct 2010 08:56:01
Who was woy looking at in Belgium? Defour? lukaku? Any idea? I think this lukaku lad would be a gem. Ed do you think we will when today? Would you like any of the above players?
{Editor's Note: I see a win today. No chance on Lukaku - nada. Defour maybe but MUFC have to be in pole.}
17 Oct 2010 08:33:34
Reina. Jones
Kelly. M Richards 7 mil
Cahill 15 mil. Wilson
Shaw-cross 10 mil. Carragah
Bale 20 mil. Konchesky
Mata 20 mil. Cole
Huddleston 15 mil. Merilis
Gerrard. Poulson
Young 20 mil. Kuyt
Rooney 50 mil. Ngog
Toress. Pacheco
157 mill spent
Sell
Agger 10 mil
Sketal 10 mil
Johnson 20 mil
Babel 10 mil
Lucas 5 mil
Maxi 2 mil
Total 57 mil
17 Oct 2010 08:23:49
Players which I think we should sign in the next two transfer windows (all very much possible):
JANUARY:
Alexis Sanchez-£18m
Diego Forlan-£10m
Ibrahim Afellay-£8m
SUMMER:
Gregory Van Der Wiel-£15m
Cissokho-£13m
Anthony Annan-£6m
Juan Mata-£20m
Connor Wickham-£8m
=£98m
We dispose of:
Kygriakos-£2m
Aurelio-£2m
Konchesky-£2m
Babel-£8m
Maxi-£4m
Lucas-£7m
Poulsen-£3m
Jovanovic-£5m
Spearing-£2m
Aquilani-£13m
=£48m (we add this to the £50m that we'll get from club profits and owners).
Our squad:
GK-Pepe, Jones, Gulacsi
RB:Van Der Wiel, Johnson
CB:Agger, Ayala, Skrtel, Kelly, Wilson
LB:Cissokho, Mavinga
RW:Sanchez, Amoo
DM:Annan
AM:Gerrard, Raul, Jonjo, Cole, Afellay (can also play in the wings)
LW:Mata
FW:Torres, Forlan, Pacheco, Ngog, Wickham
Manager-one of Rafa, Laudrup, DiMatteo
Dimitru Koslov
17 Oct 2010 08:23:12
I read this all the time and i am shocked at some of the bo! 0x i am reading here and in the banter page!
As fans we prayed for a new owner (not a silly money owner but a rich sensible owner) to get the terrible texan out. We wanted an owner who could do business the Liverpool way like Sir John and Peter Robinson. We wanted investment and the debt cleared. We have now got it! We have new owners with a proven (sensible) sporting background. Successful, rich and who want to run the club properly and not run there mouths off in the press with false promises. For the younger fans who don't know 'This is and always was the liverpool way of running the club! The whingers and doom merchants on here need to wind there necks in, and wait and see what our new owners will do. Lets get behind the new owners, the manager and the team and lift the gloomy atmosphere that's surrounded us for the last few years!
Rumours- I am not in the know but i think from a business (and tactical) point of view Honda will be a number 1 target. He fills a positional need and is quality. He also fills a business expansion need as he will massively up our profile in Japan and asia in general. I also think Turan may finally get his move to LFC. Along with a young talented striker (no idea who? ) I think these signings would transform the first team and allow us to play the type of football most of us have been yearning for! Just my opinion. What do you think ED?
{Editor's Note: It seeems sensible to me.}
17 Oct 2010 08:09:45
Ed what do you think of basel's shaqiri, villa's albrighton and psv's dzudsak. all three are good wingers and should come pretty cheap
{Editor's Note: No doubt they are all fine players but none are better than what we already have.}
17 Oct 2010 06:41:58
Hey ED, we all remember A.Aquilani's prowess in front of goal. .he may be prone but the lad is right there with the best.
Should S.Gerrard get injured for a couple of weeks. .i gurantee you that Roy won't know what hit him.
Realstic INS
-I.Afellay
-J.Mata/ A.Turan
-S.Muntari(unlikely)
-O.Toivonen/ K.Doyle/ C.Cole not forgetting M.Gomez
Possible outs
-D.Agger(Tottenham and Real madrid lurking)
-M.Rodriguez
-R.Babel
And ED. . .Aquilani will be back with a bang mate.
('-', )Nile Anderson
17 Oct 2010 06:28:14
Epanding Anfield could be a possibility. The paddock could be torn down & a new double or triple stand could be built there. Also, the corners of the ground could be filled with seats, but as long as they didn't do it at the Kop end, that needs to be separate.
Gav the ref
17 Oct 2010 05:01:23
Hoping that we play 4-2-1-3 tomorrow
Reina
Kelly Carragher Kyrgiakos Konchesky
Gerrard Meireles
Cole
Pacheco Torres Jovanovic
17 Oct 2010 03:47:26
Hi Ed i was wondering if you could help me with an issue i have,
Iv'e just seen Tom Hicks interveiw via google, And i sort of feel sorry for the guy after watching it, He also seemed sure he'd realy done his best for Liverpool, And quite upset to be leaving us.
So am i right to feel sorry for him, Or has he played his part well and not realy the nice guy he's tryed to come accross as.
I am just confused by it all.
UCCM = Bigfish
{Editor's Note: The main thing is he has gone.}
17 Oct 2010 03:11:05
I think we should sack roy hogdson cos i don't belive he his the right man to turn liverpool around wining trophys no way he wants to buy players out of date can't select his best elven i honestly don't think he can do a job for us
17 Oct 2010 03:06:16
Liverpool should by:
Marko Marin
Eden Hazard
stevan jovetic
sergio ageuro
taiwo
reina
johnson carragher agger taiwo
hazard jovetic gerrard marin
aguero
torres
17 Oct 2010 02:12:07
Hodgsons sent a scout to look at Michael Chopra. looking over cardiff city players
17 Oct 2010 01:56:55
Player i think we should definatley go 4 is Keishuke Honda
17 Oct 2010 01:28:26
I think that in January we should sign ryan shawcross/ Gary Cahill to tighten up the defence aswell as Fabio Contrao. Juan Mata and maybe Roman Pavluchenko then we would again be a match for any1 again
17 Oct 2010 01:25:50
Had my first good night sleep in ages last night.! glad it's all over. now comes the derby! hopefully 3pts tomorrow. list of players for jan. honda, mata
lopez. all about 12m each. sell lucas get back 6m .complete aqualani for 10m. develop a new anfield (believe.) move across stanley park (unbelieve). ed what the most you could develop anfield too?. ynwa
{Editor's Note: I don't know , but there will be constraints beyond what the ground can hold - getting people in and out etc.}
17 Oct 2010 01:15:05
Hi ed just voted on a poll on either to make anfield bigger or build new ground myself build new ground i know the history our great club has and im proud everytime i visit anfield but i think to build a new ground would also bring some freshness into the city itself would you agree the liverpool people deserve the best im from n.ireland myself but love liverpools way of life quite similar to ours {ed's note - I would rather expand Anfield, I have never liked the idea of a new stadium myself. I have too close a personal attachment to Anfield.}
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I'd love for us to stay at Anfield to ED. But if a new stadium mean't more revenue especially corperate box's etc what would you prefer?
J Henry was quoted today that ground sharing was most likely a non starter as from what he's heard already that the fans are against it.
I know the ground share was probably never going to happen. But do you think he said it because he didn't want to do it or he maybe did know that the fans are against it? Or maybe both?
Blair Mayne YNWA
{Editor's Note: It is still very early days for JWH - I don't want us to put him on the spot and then be deisappointed.}
17 Oct 2010 00:39:21
Ed putting you emotional ties aside do you not think a new stadium would be better for the club financially and the city?
{Editor's Note: Much will depend on what can be done with Anfield in terms of practicality and approval by the council.}
17 Oct 2010 00:04:20
I reckon the team for tommorow should be like
Reina
kelly carra skertel aurrellio
johnson merilas gerrard cole
torres
jovanavic
if you put jova upfrunt (preffered postion) i fink hel relish in a derby with torres playin off him could work miracals ha jay bee wot yh reckon ed {ed's note - I have not been impressed with Jovanovic at all myself. I don't think Aurelio is worth putting in as he always takes 4 or 5 games after an injury before he has a good one (and he usually gets injured in that match anyway). Skrtel has shown he is not up to the job, he is positionally clueless and he is not quick enough to make up for it. Apart from that I don't see much that can be altered from your team with our current squad.}