Liverpool Banter Archive November 17 2010

 

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17 Nov 2010 23:43:32
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Doesn't anyone else like owen coyle as a manager. Ambitious and gets his team playing good football, even bolton who are known for being one dimentional. He is not old and would bring excitement to our game! The next sahnklyYour thoughts ed?

{Editor's Note: He was one of the potential replacements considered by Manchester United - a couple of years ago he was on the up but since then he has settled somewhat.}

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17 Nov 2010 23:40:27
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Ed can u tell me if Roy Evans currently holds any role at the club if not why would the owners not appoint Kenny along side him as caretaker manager until the end of the season or until someone who understands the Liverpool traditions and can manage to give guidance to the players and also has their respect as a manager becomes available-that way Kenny&Roys Evans reputations remain intact.
Keep up the good work

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17 Nov 2010 23:30:34
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Old man glazier, a long time ago, went to visit his triplet grandsons on their birthday, he asked the first one, what would you like your grandpappy to buy you for your birthday? he answered, a row boat please! so he got him a 50 foot pleasure cruiser.
he asked the second, what would you like your grandpappy to buy you for your birthday? he answered, a pony please! so he bought him a stable of racehorses.
he then asked the third, what would you like your grandpappy to buy you for your birthday? he answered, i don't want a lot, just a cowboy out fit please! so glazier bought him manchester united!
true story!

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17 Nov 2010 23:26:48
I am roy hodgson. My line up against west ham will be:
reina
carra skrtel kyrgiakos konk
mereiles poulsen lucas maxi
ngog babel
because of the great attacking flair in this team, we will only lose by a goal to nil against a good west ham side.
Red bl00ded!

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17 Nov 2010 23:21:02
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With Gerrard injured and Lucas suspended, Meireles HAS to be moved centrally. If he is not then I will personally track Roy down and ask him why.
For me, this series of unfortunate events in our midfield offers a good opportunity for either Shelvey or Spearing to showcase what they can do. One or the other along with Raul M would be what 99% of the fans would play and is still very strong in my opinion. However, knowing Roy, his other love child Poulsen will be the heart of the midfield and we will look like a Sunday league team because of the constant hoofing and distinct lack of creativity.
I suppose it's scenarios like this that make you realise how much of a stupid idea sending Aquilani on loan was.
Do you agree, Editor? {ed's note - fully agree mate, but then Roy would never have picked Aqualani.}

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17 Nov 2010 23:13:21
17 Nov 2010 22:33:02
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Looks like stevey, torres are injured and kuyt. looks like its 4-5-1 on Saturday with ngog upfront on his own coz the other 10 lads will be in our half defending. Is play 442 ngog with pacheco Jus behind but we all know wha Roy will do- 1-0 westham
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C'mon mate. we all know pacheco won't play. also torres was on the bench for spain. and kuyt did not play only as a precaution cause hes just come back from injury.
so expect kuyt and torres upfront on sat. although i would play torres and ngog upfront against wh.

harry5

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17 Nov 2010 23:09:37
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17 Nov 2010 22:33:40
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If i was roy i would of said only 45 mins for Steve tonight but then iam not a berk like Mr Hodgson 83 mins in a friendly and now out for a few weeks cheers Roy and Capello both idiots.
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Your wrong mate. it was only capello who was the idiot. why would he care if he gets injured the next match is in march.
Although Roy probably wanted him injured so he could add another defensive midfielder (poulson the great) on saturday.

This is what darren burgess said on twitter (Head of Fitness and Conditioning with Liverpool)
darrenburgess25 (twitter.com/ darrenburgess25):-

- "Unbelievable from all associated with England and English FA with regard to SGs injury. Completely ignored agreement and past history."
- "Completely amateurish and now we pay for their incompetence. Absolutely disgraceful"

harry5:)

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17 Nov 2010 22:57:26
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Gerrard limps off for eng-er-land, looks like hamstring. My guess is 3 weeks out. God I hate meaningless internationals!

===Personally, I hate all fcuking internationals. I couldn't give a flying fcuk about England and even less for other countries.

All internationals mean to me is the risk of our players being injured. .and there appear to be more and more international games than I ever seem to remember in years gone by. Just so FIFA can make a few more million.

Frenchy.

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17 Nov 2010 22:57:00
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17 Nov 2010 22:16:34
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"If we're without gerrard and Lucas it may not be end of the world. Centre midfield if our strongest position (poulson don't count). We could play shelvy and miereles.

Maxi miereles shelvy babel
torres kuyt

if torres is injured then

maxi miereles shelvy babel
pacheco
kuyt"


Yeah , but Roy will play
Maxi spearing poulsen miereles
Kuyt Ngog

Roy

yeah I know cus Roy is a tactical genius.

I would play
renia
kelly carragher skrtel auerlio
babel miereles lucas pacheco
cole
kuyt/ n'gog

that's my team if torres, gerrard and Johnson are injured.

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17 Nov 2010 22:53:13
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I think Alberto Aquilani should show a little bit more respect to Liverpool and stop vowing for Johnson to join him at Juventus. It's disrespectful to our club and disruptful to our squad of players. Its bad enough all these lies in the papers about players leaving without people like Aquilani coming out and trying to persuade our lads to come join them.

He should remember that he is still technically employed by Liverpool Football Club and we won't just bow down to his wishes and sell him to Juventus on both his terms and the terms of Juventus FC. We will do a deal which pleases us and us only.

He should keep his mouth shut and show our club more respect, especially considering the fact that we paid £20m for him and took a massive chance on him, and us as fans showed a lot of support towards him.

Anyway, good riddance you flop.

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17 Nov 2010 22:47:43
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Hey ed not sure if you have heard or not but stevie got injured tonight lol (does every1 really need to post it). do you think there is the slightest chance roy might play shelvey in gerrard's role, were he should be, or should i just accept that poulsen will start on saturday.

always a red {ed's note - I think you already know the answer to that question, but keep your fingers crossed, you just don't know!}

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17 Nov 2010 22:47:26
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This will probably be our team to play the mighty Hammers on Sat now with Stevie injured.

Reina

Carragher Skrtel Soto Konchesky

Maxi Mireless Poulsen Javanovic

Kuyt

Torres

Looks pretty grim dosn't it?

Blair Mayne YNWA {ed's note - isn't Kuyt out?}

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17 Nov 2010 22:47:09
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Just watched England V France. Must say that M'Vila looks a good player, I know it's only one game, but he looks like he could develop into the complete midfielder.

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17 Nov 2010 22:43:54
Roy sent his scouts to wembley to see how england manage to pass the ball back to the goalie everytime, even when they are in oppositions penalty area thinking wow that's how i want liverpool to play, none of this attacking mallarky for me,

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17 Nov 2010 22:38:53
RE capello like to train the players into the ground

its a real problem letting players go on international. He isn't a international manager, but a club manager

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17 Nov 2010 22:38:52
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Come on super poulson packs more punch than audley harrison

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17 Nov 2010 22:36:19
Gerrard up his game for a live games + big audiances.

Just wondering why he didn't play well against Stoke,

Prob thinkin about playing for england and now he is injured

Being out of champions league for 2 years, the world starts to forget about you.

But still Gerrard isn't likely to see another world cup. isn't it time for him to give it up.

Let others take the englan place

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17 Nov 2010 22:33:40
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If i was roy i would of said only 45 mins for Steve tonight but then iam not a berk like Mr Hodgson 83 mins in a friendly and now out for a few weeks cheers Roy and Capello both idiots.

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17 Nov 2010 22:33:02
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Looks like stevey, torres are injured and kuyt. looks like its 4-5-1 on Saturday with ngog upfront on his own coz the other 10 lads will be in our half defending. Is play 442 ngog with pacheco Jus behind but we all know wha Roy will do- 1-0 westham

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17 Nov 2010 22:32:46
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Aquiliani good performance for Italy this evening.

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17 Nov 2010 22:30:23
Ron Atkinson man utd manager since 1981 to 1986

So he set up the youth

Ferri also get OBE for his time at aberdeen. Why does he keep getting knigh-hoods ect for winning euro cup?

Ok, Bill Shakley was given an OBE in November 1974. do these people really deserve a knighthood for winning a football game.

Also why is england bailling out the irish? it doesn't make sense. People in england are struggling and the goverment want to give away another 70billion. What is wrong with the world.

So RBS is owed 56billion from Irland, i would what would have happened if we still owed RBS 288m, seems like a small amout to to owe RBS compared to irish goverment.

Still don't see why england are bailling out the Royal Bank of Scotland.

Why are we giving these scots Knighood and Bailouts.

Yet they won't build liverpool a free stadium in the city.

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17 Nov 2010 22:29:03
To the fella that wrote this:
Gerrard came off with a hamstring for england.

he killed himself for a friendly match and now he is injured.

He will running and tacklin all game. Why doesn't he put that level in for liverpool.

Seems me he is putting his self in the shop window. Letting the world know he is still a player.

Worrying to see him go off for england. Why doesn't gerrard retire international football

He cants keep playing for england and liverpool. Its too much for older players.

Scholes retired. Carra retired isn't it time for him.

Putting self in shop window? do you not think the major sides realise what he can do? Can you imagine Jose saying "well I was unsure whether to launch a 42nd bid for Gerrard, but having watched him tonight for 83 minutes, here's hoping lucky 43rd. .

Scholes retired as Eriksson failed to understand he was our best central midfielder and continually playing him on the left , and so nullified his impact, while Carra gave up cos Wes Brown was deemed a preferred option by McLaren.

Gerrard has been very indifferent for the last 18 months, but he is still with us when many would have up sticks. Who would begrudge him one last hurrah if it wasn't with us. .

Dirks Engine Room

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17 Nov 2010 22:24:36
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With gerrard injured and lucas suspended it almost guarenteeds poulson is starting on saturday. Although i would play spearing and/ or shelvey.

Harry5:)

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17 Nov 2010 22:19:27
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Aquilani started for italy tonight. First time in ages i beleive!

Harry5:)

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17 Nov 2010 22:18:43
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Gerrard hamstring injury, absolute disaster

no i told you we have poulson rejoice rejoice we have poulson

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17 Nov 2010 22:17:12
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Thought M'Vila looked a very good player, if the rumours of us scouting him are true. Also thought Mexes had a very good game

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17 Nov 2010 22:16:34
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"If we're without gerrard and Lucas it may not be end of the world. Centre midfield if our strongest position (poulson don't count). We could play shelvy and miereles.

Maxi miereles shelvy babel
torres kuyt

if torres is injured then

maxi miereles shelvy babel
pacheco
kuyt"


Yeah , but Roy will play
Maxi spearing poulsen miereles
Kuyt Ngog

Roy

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17 Nov 2010 22:14:39
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Gerrard came off with a hamstring for england.

he killed himself for a friendly match and now he is injured.

He will running and tacklin all game. Why doesn't he put that level in for liverpool.

Seems me he is putting his self in the shop window. Letting the world know he is still a player.

Worrying to see him go off for england. Why doesn't gerrard retire international football

He cants keep playing for england and liverpool. Its too much for older players.

Scholes retired. Carra retired isn't it time for him.

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17 Nov 2010 22:11:16
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Gerrard hamstring injury, absolute disaster

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17 Nov 2010 22:10:28
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"Liverpool fans-loyal
support hogson for at least a season, lets just see what he can do this season, then judge him"

But what most fans do not understand , this season is very critical for us, if Roy's results carry on as they are we will end in the bottom half of the table , no europe . means
Pepe, Skrtel, Lucas, Meireles, Kuyt, Gerrard, Maxi and Torres leaving .
Johnson , Agger , Ayala , Insua , Babel, aqua boy, Jovanovic, pacheco and Mavinga will leave any way if not this Jan then in the summer.

A deflated team with no European football will not attract half decent footballers even with the best manager in charge . . And I know we have decent youngsters, but they are not ready for premier league football as a collective, and will do good to emulate what west brom are doing.
Roy

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17 Nov 2010 22:08:34
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Hay don't worry about stevie we have poulson

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17 Nov 2010 22:01:22
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If we're without gerrard and Lucas it may not be end of the world. Centre midfield if our strongest position (poulson don't count). We could play shelvy and miereles.

Maxi miereles shelvy babel
torres kuyt

if torres is injured then

maxi miereles shelvy babel
pacheco
kuyt

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17 Nov 2010 22:00:45
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Thank you mr crapello 2-0 down with 10 mins to go and stevie still on the pitch it's a friendly you moron

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17 Nov 2010 21:58:48
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Gerrard pulls hamstring wtf why is he playing 83 mins in a friendly
ed why didn't woy insist gerrard only play 45mins in a meaningless friendly its a disgrace could be without gerrard against westham and nando is struggling to what you think ed? {ed's note - do you not think Gerrard would throw his toys out of his pram if anyone asked him to play less for England? Like he did when asked to play on the left for Liverpool but was quite happy to play there for England match after match.}

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17 Nov 2010 21:57:59
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Why the F* k is gerrard playing nearly a full game in a s* tty friendly, the Italian knob capello knows what he can do, hope its not serious imagine a midfield of poosen & leiva for the next 8-6 weeks nightmare

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17 Nov 2010 21:56:44
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Gerrard limps off for eng-er-land, looks like hamstring. My guess is 3 weeks out. God I hate meaningless internationals!

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17 Nov 2010 21:54:50
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Has anyone heard the rumour that roy was in france to look at mike hunt

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17 Nov 2010 21:54:47
Gerard has got injured we won't have a team for westham with kuyt, torres, johnson, skitle, cole also injured, but don't worry we have poulsen and konchesky to save the day! !

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17 Nov 2010 21:50:38
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England are Jus as bad as Liverpool and to make maters worse stevies injured

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17 Nov 2010 21:47:53
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F*** off Capello you Italian w* * r Gerrard just got injured GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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17 Nov 2010 21:47:32
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Gerrard pulls hamstring wtf why is he playing 83 mins in a friendly

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17 Nov 2010 21:46:45
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Bad news Gerrard limping off in a crappy f* king friendly that's all we need

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17 Nov 2010 21:46:44
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Gerrard injured in a stupid frigging friendly

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17 Nov 2010 21:45:21
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Gerrard done his hammy oh great. . .

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17 Nov 2010 21:44:37
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Steven Garrard Pulls Hamstring on England Duty

Could be out for a liverpool game against Westham,

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17 Nov 2010 21:44:18
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Fan-bloody-tastic! Gerrard has a hamstring injury! Now Torres AND Gerrard are injured again. .uh oh!

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17 Nov 2010 21:38:13
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I think we could make a not just another sqaud but another league with the players lfc are being linked withand rumoured.

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17 Nov 2010 21:33:19
The fact is the 'Anfield' landowner that had leased the pitch to Everton from 1868 , decided in 1892 to raise the rates on Everton , Everton FC disagreed and left for Goodison Park . At that moment the landowner himself decided to start a Football Club as he already had the facilities and know how , he named the Football Club - Liverpool Football Club .


You know liverpool football club only came to be due to greed, green of the stadium owner. Sums up moden football.

a sport run by greedy people.

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Of course it was about time that Liverpool had 2 teams within the City , most major Cities in the COuntry has 2 Professional Football Clubs .

1977

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17 Nov 2010 21:27:55
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Please NESV look at barcelona's youth set up over a decade ago Yohan Cryuff changed the way we think about football and remember he did this at ajax too they had any amazing academy and still do. . He brought to " la masia ( FCB academy ) " a certain football philosophy, short passes, amazing technical ability, Movement, great work ethic and above all teamwork. he said a footballer at FCB had to have the right mentality to be a barca footballer. .This team developed together and all want to play football the same way. . Think of the value of there home grown players in the current transfer market. .Remember when Cesc fabregas had a go at mark hughes and said " you used to play for barca? that's not barca football"
THIS WAS OUR PHILOSOPHy OF FOOTBALL IN THE 80's. Pass and move etc. Where did it all die?? poor manager after poor manager buying over rated foreign imports. .Stifiling our youth development. we need a complete shake up at the top. . Agree with appointment of Damien commolli cos there is no way one man should be in charge of recruitment. .Lets start at home though and give some of our kids a chance we can't do any worse. . .
Your views ED pls. . {ed's note - I agree completely, I am hoping that is what the academy will start to do now under the new guys. Segura and Borell did, after all, come from the Barca academy. But it will take years for the youngsters to come through - after all Fergie was the one who got the benefit of the youth system that was set up while he was still using North Sea oil money to buy an Aberdeen team.}

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17 Nov 2010 20:53:32
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Carrol and m'vila look impressive

Harry5

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17 Nov 2010 20:51:56
Face it scousers, you only form the fringes of the big leagues where the big boys do their thing.
I really feel for Torres.Four best years of his career (in terms of performance), yet, what's he got to show for it?Bugger all.A waste of talent.
Imagine if he'd joined us when he had the chance, he'd be a league, CL, FA, CC, WC champion.
What a waste of talent."

I assume you're a Man'Ure minion - how ironic. A fan of a club sinking faster than a boat without a hull slagging the fans of a club that's fallen, but is obviously rising from the ashes; a process which will be quickened once we get Fergie's pimp Roy and his mate Sammy Lee.
Of course, a Man'Ure fan would naturally resort to the required "We're unbeaten!, yes, but what's the point of being unbeaten when you're drawing with the Fulhams and Stokes of the world 90% of the time. Within 2 years Man U will not have Champions League football, within 5 your debt will surpass 1bn, within 7 Man U will be a poor-man's Liverpool and struggle to beat the promoted teams.
Concerning the above quoted snippet of your rant you compared what Torres's medal collection would look like had he joined Man U. You don't get it - as a child Torres supported Liverpool after Atleti, as most Spaniards do.
How many Man United fans are in in their first eleven? None. No heart - no foundation. Like a building being built in a bog.
We have three Liverpool fans in our squad - Torres, Gerrard and Carragher (a converted blue) - soon to be 4 when Kelly is promoted.

You also posted about our mythical inability to produce world-class youth while hailing Whiskey Nose for his brilliance in blooding youth.
Who, exactly, has Whiskey Nose developed as a first team player in the last ten years. No one - he blooded one group of good youth players and that's it. On the other hand, we have brought in Owen, Gerrard, Carragher, Warnock and are about to bring in Kelly.

jon

PAUL SCHOLES, WES BROWN, RYAN GIGGS, GARY NEV, JONNY EVANS THAT I KNOW OF

well scholes and giggs i wouldn't rate any of the rest and your a nobhead who has to come to a liverpool site to talk football SAD

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17 Nov 2010 20:50:46
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Roy Hodgson A.K.A Larry Burns from the simpsons, google image it everybody!

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17 Nov 2010 20:49:17
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Watching the build up to the England game I can't help notice that Danny Murphy seems to have lost his scouse accent. What's all that about.

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17 Nov 2010 20:46:09
Perhaps it's in fact your poor English that has let you down, as the post clearly states "past glories" not "glory" so one would have to presume it was aimed at the last time you tasted success on a sustained basis, as opposed to a single moment. .
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Selective reading. Read the whole context of what that idiot wrote kiddo instead of picking out two words, and you'll see he wasn't making any kind of reference to recent success, most probably the 70s and 80s, the period most bitters refer to.

Jog on lad.

I have read it again and what I have posted is correct, its you that has in fact taken it out of context to try and justify your response

beam me up scotty

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17 Nov 2010 20:43:40
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In response to Mr Red First and Last who posted:
Stop all this nonsense about scandanavians, argys, PNE young boys, spurs or villa rejects, etc, its all total bollox, they are not rumours, just the soundings of fans who have nothing better to do.
Give some evidence to back up the total tripe that people have started to put on here. i cannot believe the deluded predictions of some of our fans.
The only thing for certain is that NESV will act at the proper time and in the proper way. When they don't we can all start having a pop at them & rightly so.
They are seemingly working in the background the old liverpool way, which is what we should all want.
Transfers will be announced when they have happened not when they might happen.
RED FIRST & LAST

=== What a bundle of fun you are my friend. Just to remind you, this is a rumours site. You might have logged on to the wrong site.

Frenchy.

Incorrect Frenchy!

Most of these rumours are just guesswork and drivel, rumours have a bit of reason behind them, so if you do have rumours, say where you got them and don't just spout on about your dream team. RED FIRST & LAST has a point, rumours are rumours the rest is BANTER!

Big Bill

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17 Nov 2010 20:28:54
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17 Nov 2010 19:21:59


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Most realistic targets come January:


n'zogbia


honda


payet


affellaymaybe big signing in summer


mata or llorente


In reply baffle has signed for barca, its on there website just waiting personal terms , if Johnson is unhappy at city is move heaven and hell to get him to us,

sorry meant to say affellay predictive text got it wrong

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17 Nov 2010 20:24:02
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Watchin england is like watchin liverpool

Harry5

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17 Nov 2010 19:55:48
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"PAUL SCHOLES, WES BROWN, RYAN GIGGS, GARY NEV, JONNY EVANS THAT I KNOW OF"

Paul Scholes, Wes Brown, Ryan Giggs, and Gary Neville were all breaking into or already in the starting XI before the last decade.
Jonny Evans is a sorry excuse for a defender and isn't in the starting, or going to break into it anytime soon - what's sad is he's actually your 3rd nest defender behind Vidic and Evra.

The boats sinking fast - Fergie seems to have taken the only life raft and tied his sailors to the deck with lengthy contracts.

jon

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17 Nov 2010 19:55:42
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To the people who are picking the team for saturday against West Ham. Please note: LUCAS IS SUSPENDED FOR THIS GAME.

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17 Nov 2010 19:51:12
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Watched the Brazil game vs Argentina pretty competitive noticed Lucas played and played a quiet game did what he had to solid performance

i guess the main difference for brazil and for liverpool would be that brazil attack more which always helps a holding midfield player

solid performance for Brazil

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17 Nov 2010 19:49:43
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"PAUL SCHOLES, WES BROWN, RYAN GIGGS, GARY NEV, JONNY EVANS THAT I KNOW OF"
Most, if not all of those were at the club before Ferguson. The previous manager put the youth policy in place and had also saved the club from what looked like relegation. Had it not been for his " off football" activities, which got him the sack, he would have confirmed that he was a better manager than Ferguson and Ferguson would still be dossing around the Scottish league.


Definetly the best/ funniest post off all time! Genius!

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17 Nov 2010 19:47:39
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Bilboa say they have raised llorentes buy out clause how can they raise it without him signing a new contract and it don't say hes signed a new contract, , , ed how can they raise his buy out clause i don't get it {ed's note - if he agrees to it then they can.}

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17 Nov 2010 19:43:02
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Everything is clear like crystal, sign the proper players to compete for top 4, that means new owners should some serius cash in jan, or not make any money competing in E/ L, next year, TV-rights, CL revenue, losing a lot of money probably 80-100milions, so toughts who would so crazy not invest now 40m, for getting the club on right way/ only way. .surely is gonna be one or two major signings+plus back up, think we gonna sign for sure a star striker, class winger, back up left back. .maybe a some tallent/ prospect on left back.
honda, hulk , lukaku, mata. .comming on!
ED?pls rate this.

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17 Nov 2010 19:16:20
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Somebody mentioned that Paco Ayestarán would make a good manager. I think assistant coach to a young and vibrant manager would be better.

Sell Poulsen and Konchesky to Fulham.

Give Roy his P45 and give Sammy lee a job cutting the grass, or painting it green.

Aside of those two awful players, there are some very good players at Liverpool. They just need motivating and directing in a way that they can play IN position and to their strengths.

I hope NESV understand this.

The squad is not that bad, just poorly managed.

Notice how many players are saying they want out ?

Oh dear !

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17 Nov 2010 19:14:37
Not bad odds for walcott to get a hattrick 80-1

Harry5

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17 Nov 2010 18:50:16
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17 Nov 2010 18:42:51
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He's record speak volumes:
He won the Golden Boot at the 2010 U-19 Championships scoring against Portugal, Italy, England . . before this, Pacheco had a huge reputation as a rising star with the Barcelona's youth academy . . he's nicknamed there was El Asesino ("The Assassin") as he scored from anywhere, here's our wingerstriker that people keep saying we need, we have him now so let's use him! !

Pacheco plays in the same position as the great King Kenny did, so to use him as a winger would not make sense. We need to use players in the positions they are good at. As in not using CM's as RM's Mr Hodgeson. If we are struggling in those areas, use the youth we have. These kids will be hungry to prove a point.

YNWA

to add to this, he is also classed as a homegrown player under the new fifa rules. My mind is baffled as to why hes not even getting 10 minutes (it should be 45 at least)
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AS I SAID EARLIER HIS TREATMENT BY HODGSON IS NOTHING SHORT OF A DISGRACE. HE SHOULD BE GIVEN A GOOD RUN OF GAMES, BUT NOT STUCK OUT ON THE WING. HE CAN EASILY PLAY THE TRADITIONAL LIVERPOOL KENNY AND KEEGAN No. 7 ROLE.

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17 Nov 2010 18:45:04
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Ed what do you think about Spalletti the Zenit manager for the job?

{Editor's Note: Spalletti has a job he enjoys - why would he leave?}

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17 Nov 2010 18:42:51
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He's record speak volumes:
He won the Golden Boot at the 2010 U-19 Championships scoring against Portugal, Italy, England . . before this, Pacheco had a huge reputation as a rising star with the Barcelona's youth academy . . he's nicknamed there was El Asesino ("The Assassin") as he scored from anywhere, here's our wingerstriker that people keep saying we need, we have him now so let's use him! !

Pacheco plays in the same position as the great King Kenny did, so to use him as a winger would not make sense. We need to use players in the positions they are good at. As in not using CM's as RM's Mr Hodgeson. If we are struggling in those areas, use the youth we have. These kids will be hungry to prove a point.

YNWA

to add to this, he is also classed as a homegrown player under the new fifa rules. My mind is baffled as to why hes not even getting 10 minutes (it should be 45 at least)

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17 Nov 2010 18:07:32
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I personally think he could do with another chance to prove himself with a big club (Not to say Lyon aren't).
I also fancy his team mate Jérémy Toulalan.

South African YNWA

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17 Nov 2010 17:54:36
"PAUL SCHOLES, WES BROWN, RYAN GIGGS, GARY NEV, JONNY EVANS THAT I KNOW OF"
Most, if not all of those were at the club before Ferguson. The previous manager put the youth policy in place and had also saved the club from what looked like relegation. Had it not been for his " off football" activities, which got him the sack, he would have confirmed that he was a better manager than Ferguson and Ferguson would still be dossing around the Scottish league.

{Editor's NOte: You really need to go and check some details here.}

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17 Nov 2010 17:46:19
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"I pity your old maths teacher son"

FA Cup in 2006.Lol.How about you go check how many trophies we've since that time.As pity, well, if there's anyone who needs pity, it's the fans of a certain club who last got a feel of the EPL some two decades ago but still see themselves as a giant.

Who needs pity are the fans of a certain Liverpool who's only joy stems from seeing other teams failing than their club's success.That's who deserves pity, oldman.Always at the beginning the season they sing "this is our year, our season", only to spot the typical long, sombre faces that have come to represent their inferior club over the last two decades at the end of the season.

"Most successful british club blah, blah, blah".You never hear us Red Devils running our gobs about history.We speak about what we do in the here and now.
Face it scousers, you're second-best, you always will be.2008 was supposedly your best season in years, yet you couldn't finish above the Red Devil.

You say that "this manure team is the worst ou've seen in years", yet it's still to lose a game and is up there on the log, well in contention for the title.You, on the other hand, are about to reach double figures (goals conceded) and are in grave danger of not making even Europa. .EUROPA.Lol.

You got a carp manager, carp stadium that's about to take a spectacular crumble, clueless owners, carp players bar Torres, Pepe, Meireles, ignorant, stupid and lonely fans such as that blair mayne idiot.A sad state of affairs.
How embarrasing it must be for you lot that Ronaldo won more awards, trophies etc in six years at the Theatre than you've done in 20 years.Shame!

So again, Reina, Torres, Meireles. .run now before you end up like Carragher and Gerrard.Run, kids.You're TOO GOOD to be playing in a team of that quality, or should I say, mediocrity.
"This is our year".Lol.Pathetic.

LONG LIVE WOY, THE KONCH AND POULSO

Blair Is A Doofus

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17 Nov 2010 17:42:04
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Éver Banega & Javier Pastore anyone?

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17 Nov 2010 17:34:18
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Wilson scored a nice goal for Scotland, he was also quite solid in defense. New Alan Hansen? (Hope Roy gives him a chance- -Carra needs a break)

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17 Nov 2010 17:31:46
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LFC should go and sign Erik Lamela whos a left sided player currently applying his trade for River Plate. He made his full debut yesterday against Boca and was excellent - according to reports Barca tried to sign him in 2004 when he was around 12 years old.

Have you heard anything of this boy Ed? And if Commolli has been recruited to unearth young players then this one is a real gem! ! {ed's note - I can't say I have heard much of him, sorry.}

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17 Nov 2010 17:28:32
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17 Nov 2010 16:59:53
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Perhaps it's in fact your poor English that has let you down, as the post clearly states "past glories" not "glory" so one would have to presume it was aimed at the last time you tasted success on a sustained basis, as opposed to a single moment. .
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Selective reading. Read the whole context of what that idiot wrote kiddo instead of picking out two words, and you'll see he wasn't making any kind of reference to recent success, most probably the 70s and 80s, the period most bitters refer to.

Jog on lad.

I have read it again and what I have posted is correct, its you that has in fact taken it out of context to try and justify your response.

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17 Nov 2010 17:26:06
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17 Nov 2010 17:06:02
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"Face it scousers, you only form the fringes of the big leagues where the big boys do their thing.
I really feel for Torres.Four best years of his career (in terms of performance), yet, what's he got to show for it?Bugger all.A waste of talent.
Imagine if he'd joined us when he had the chance, he'd be a league, CL, FA, CC, WC champion.
What a waste of talent."

I assume you're a Man'Ure minion - how ironic. A fan of a club sinking faster than a boat without a hull slagging the fans of a club that's fallen, but is obviously rising from the ashes; a process which will be quickened once we get Fergie's pimp Roy and his mate Sammy Lee.
Of course, a Man'Ure fan would naturally resort to the required "We're unbeaten!, yes, but what's the point of being unbeaten when you're drawing with the Fulhams and Stokes of the world 90% of the time. Within 2 years Man U will not have Champions League football, within 5 your debt will surpass 1bn, within 7 Man U will be a poor-man's Liverpool and struggle to beat the promoted teams.
Concerning the above quoted snippet of your rant you compared what Torres's medal collection would look like had he joined Man U. You don't get it - as a child Torres supported Liverpool after Atleti, as most Spaniards do.
How many Man United fans are in in their first eleven? None. No heart - no foundation. Like a building being built in a bog.
We have three Liverpool fans in our squad - Torres, Gerrard and Carragher (a converted blue) - soon to be 4 when Kelly is promoted.

You also posted about our mythical inability to produce world-class youth while hailing Whiskey Nose for his brilliance in blooding youth.
Who, exactly, has Whiskey Nose developed as a first team player in the last ten years. No one - he blooded one group of good youth players and that's it. On the other hand, we have brought in Owen, Gerrard, Carragher, Warnock and are about to bring in Kelly.

jon

PAUL SCHOLES, WES BROWN, RYAN GIGGS, GARY NEV, JONNY EVANS THAT I KNOW OF

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17 Nov 2010 17:21:17
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Lukaku after scoring for Belgium plus he is young worth a try?

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17 Nov 2010 17:14:35
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Meriles is better than aqua man

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17 Nov 2010 17:07:32
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Liverpool fans-loyal
support hogson for alleast a season, lets just see what he can do this season, then judge him

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17 Nov 2010 17:06:02
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"Face it scousers, you only form the fringes of the big leagues where the big boys do their thing.
I really feel for Torres.Four best years of his career (in terms of performance), yet, what's he got to show for it?Bugger all.A waste of talent.
Imagine if he'd joined us when he had the chance, he'd be a league, CL, FA, CC, WC champion.
What a waste of talent."

I assume you're a Man'Ure minion - how ironic. A fan of a club sinking faster than a boat without a hull slagging the fans of a club that's fallen, but is obviously rising from the ashes; a process which will be quickened once we get Fergie's pimp Roy and his mate Sammy Lee.
Of course, a Man'Ure fan would naturally resort to the required "We're unbeaten!, yes, but what's the point of being unbeaten when you're drawing with the Fulhams and Stokes of the world 90% of the time. Within 2 years Man U will not have Champions League football, within 5 your debt will surpass 1bn, within 7 Man U will be a poor-man's Liverpool and struggle to beat the promoted teams.
Concerning the above quoted snippet of your rant you compared what Torres's medal collection would look like had he joined Man U. You don't get it - as a child Torres supported Liverpool after Atleti, as most Spaniards do.
How many Man United fans are in in their first eleven? None. No heart - no foundation. Like a building being built in a bog.
We have three Liverpool fans in our squad - Torres, Gerrard and Carragher (a converted blue) - soon to be 4 when Kelly is promoted.

You also posted about our mythical inability to produce world-class youth while hailing Whiskey Nose for his brilliance in blooding youth.
Who, exactly, has Whiskey Nose developed as a first team player in the last ten years. No one - he blooded one group of good youth players and that's it. On the other hand, we have brought in Owen, Gerrard, Carragher, Warnock and are about to bring in Kelly.

jon

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17 Nov 2010 16:59:53
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Perhaps it's in fact your poor English that has let you down, as the post clearly states "past glories" not "glory" so one would have to presume it was aimed at the last time you tasted success on a sustained basis, as opposed to a single moment. .
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Selective reading. Read the whole context of what that idiot wrote kiddo instead of picking out two words, and you'll see he wasn't making any kind of reference to recent success, most probably the 70s and 80s, the period most bitters refer to.

Jog on lad.

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17 Nov 2010 16:51:20
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17 Nov 2010 16:18:57
I mean, why would any world class player wanna join a club that lives off it's past glories of more than 20 years ago?
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You need to go back to school and learn some maths my son, because the last time we tasted success was 2006 (too long for our great club) - is that 20 years?

I pity your old maths teachers son.

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Perhaps it's in fact your poor English that has let you down, as the post clearly states "past glories" not "glory" so one would have to presume it was aimed at the last time you tasted success on a sustained basis, as opposed to a single moment. .

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17 Nov 2010 16:49:23
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The players were up for the Chelsea game, probably bypassing Woy's 'tactics'. The other games were following his suicidal game plan.
solidair


I am not a Hodgson fan, but I feel that a lot of people are losing sight of reality or facts if you prefer. Most of Liverpool's great results have been obtained when Liverpool were not the aggressor. We pretty much specialised in counter-attacking football because it's easier to break out and catch a team than to break them down by building up through effective passing. The games in the CL against Madrid and the 1-4 at United are prime examples of that. Even the game against Arsenal (10vs11) and the Chelsea game this year are examples of that. If you make abstraction of the Stoke game, every game Liverpool are supposed to carry the play or share it equally ends up disappointingly dull. Lack of Pace and imagination are not as flagrant when Gerrard and Torres are fed by an Alonso and are left with two or three defenders to beat before shooting on goal. Of course, when you deem Alonso expendable, you kind of set yourself up for. . well. . what we have right now.

Olivier

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17 Nov 2010 16:41:09
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Rafa is proving that he deals better with low to average players than quality one e.g took over at League, Cup and Champion league winners Inter with ETO , maicon and co and has dumped them into 5th and take over houillers dross of djimi traore and Igor Biscan and lead them to 5th and winner the Champions league. Roy has Konchesky and Poulsen similar to houiller's donkeys I mentioned and a better team left what do you think he will achieve in his first seaso. Steady the ship, add discipline and structure my a* e. Rafa can't be knocked when it comes to Roy.

Doug

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17 Nov 2010 16:26:24
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Alright ed. who do you think are england's most promising youngsters 16-21? Obviously there's loads but if you could pick two for the future from defence, midfield and attack, who would it be?

For me it would have to be, Kelly and Wisdom. mceachran and shelvey. carroll and wickham
{Editor's note - Smalling, Morisson and Wickham have to be in it. With Kelly, Shelvey and probably Carroll}

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17 Nov 2010 16:25:42
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Just heard Roys going to Wembly scouting, the hobbit Valbuena surely not. GREAT goal he scored at Anfield, but the Prem will be too physical for him. Is there any truth in this Ed or just talk.
{Editor's note - Not sure.}

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17 Nov 2010 16:18:57
I mean, why would any world class player wanna join a club that lives off it's past glories of more than 20 years ago?
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You need to go back to school and learn some maths my son, because the last time we tasted success was 2006 (too long for our great club) - is that 20 years?

I pity your old maths teachers son.

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17 Nov 2010 16:12:56
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While it is very likely that Hodgson will be sacked after the West Ham game.
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What source/ proof have you of this? NONE i'm guessing.
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Why are people clicking "unbelievable" for this? He said that it is likely Hodgson will be sacked after the West Ham game, and is clearly talking out of his back end. No proof or evidence.

Or are yous all stupid and believe this kind of garbage?

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17 Nov 2010 16:07:14
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"Liverpool Rumours
Okay, I've said this before and painfully I'm going to have to say this again, seeing as there are a lot of imbeciles on here; CHRISTIAN POULSEN CANNOT BE SOLD IN JANUARY! He has played for us and Juventus this season, so unless we're selling him back to Juventus, which is extremely doubtful, then he's ours for the season."

I know he's played for Juve this calendar year, but has he played a competitive match for them this season? Correct me if i'm wrong but Serie A didn't start until after he'd signed for us and i don't recall him in the Europa qualifiers. Which match did he appear for Juve this season?

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17 Nov 2010 16:06:25
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Ed. ; whats going on with your numbers, i went in earlier and read about johnson going to spain. and it was 8 bel and 3 disbel. just gone in now and its changed to 6 and 2?

I know roy is sucking the life out of us but didn't realise it was afecting this site as well lol

chris 1
{Editor's note - I will check that out now}

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17 Nov 2010 16:01:52
The sack race. .who goes first Woy or Rafa?

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17 Nov 2010 16:00:21
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Director of football strategy Damien Comolli

start shouting Damien Comolli name from the terrances

Forget about Roy, he does very little at the club

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17 Nov 2010 15:53:08
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Stop all this nonsense about scandanavians, argys, PNE young boys, spurs or villa rejects, etc, its all total bollox, they are not rumours, just the soundings of fans who have nothing better to do. Put some proper rumours on please.
Give some evidence to back up the total tripe that people have started to put on here. i cannot believe the deluded predictions of some of our fans.
The only thing for certain is that NESV will act at the proper time and in the proper way. When they don't we can all start having a pop at them & rightly so.
They are seemingly working in the background the old liverpool way, which is what we should all want.
Transfers will be announced when they have happened not when they might happen.
RED FIRST & LAST

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17 Nov 2010 15:51:07
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"Chelsea to be champions again. Liverpool to be compromised by losing players to injury.

Liverpool, after a far worse start than most people were expecting, still seem too dependent on Fernando Torres's fragile fitness to stride back into the Champions League

a one man band

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17 Nov 2010 15:46:47
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To whoever posted this:

"Okay, I've said this before and painfully I'm going to have to say this again, seeing as there are a lot of imbeciles on here; CHRISTIAN POULSEN CANNOT BE SOLD IN JANUARY! He has played for us and Juventus this season, so unless we're selling him back to Juventus, which is extremely doubtful, then he's ours for the season"

I've no wish to come over as one of the imbeciles that you refer to however I would appreciate some clarification. For whatever reason (and it will go unanswered to my grave with me) we signed Poulsen on 12th August 2010. Serie A did not start until 28th August so I'm at a loss to see how Poulsen has represented both us and Juventus this season. If the ruling runs on a calendar year then fair enough. Can anybody clear this one up as I'd love to see that waste of space gone as quickly as is humanly possible?

In total agreement with the rest of your post. Get Roy out now before I (and pretty much every other LFC fan) die of boredom then bring in somebody with a mindset to attack the opposition and play in a manner befitting this great club of ours.

Adam

YNWA

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17 Nov 2010 15:42:09
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To the ed`s, , , do you think if results continue to go poorly then you could see comolli having some influence with regards to maybe team selections or tactics?

Tipster
{Editor's note - I do not think Comolli will be the one to decide on the Tactics if everything start to go wrong}

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17 Nov 2010 15:40:54
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Is it just me or is anyone else finding it really difficult to be optimistic about saturday? Dont get me wrong i hope we win and believe we'll win but i just find it very difficult to enjoy the football we currently play that and enduring the hapless Woys pre and post match nonsense as well as his uninspiring demeanor during matches. I don't think i'm asking for much. I just want to see some flair, some attacking, some football and i know we are capable of it but i think we all know that. Lets keep em crossed that Steven just tells everyone to ignore Woy and play some football. . I can dream!

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17 Nov 2010 15:37:41
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You scousers are one deluded lot (even if that includes my own familia).
You keep linking yourselves with/ wishing for all these players, Honda, Mata, Sanchez, Hazard, Aguero, Adam Johnson etc.Has it ever occurred in your thick skulls that these players are NOT interested in you?

I mean, why would any world class player wanna join a club that lives off it's past glories of more than 20 years ago?Why would any ambitious player wanna play for a team who's maximum achievement is just a CL place?No, no, no!Hold it.In fact, a team that's Europa League fodder?
Why would they shun the opportunity of working with class managers such as Sir Alex, Arsene and Carlo for a has-been that is Liverpool?

Why would an aspiring young footballer go to a Liverpool team that's produced. .what, two players in the last 10 years-when they could really grow as players under the excellent tutelage of Sir Alex or Arsene?

Face it scousers, you only form the fringes of the big leagues where the big boys do their thing.
I really feel for Torres.Four best years of his career (in terms of performance), yet, what's he got to show for it?Bugger all.A waste of talent.
Imagine if he'd joined us when he had the chance, he'd be a league, CL, FA, CC, WC champion.
What a waste of talent.

Reina, Torres, Meireles must leave that club if they wanna taste some success.
Villa and Pique were spot on, Torres shouldn't be playing in a team of that quality.And any young, talented aspiring player dare NOT go to that club if they wanna make it big in the game.That's a no-go zone.

Walcot, Ramsey and many others must be thanking their lucky stars they didn't join.
So you can all cut your fantasies of Hazard, Mata, Sanchez etc.Hazard it's either Madrid or Arsenal, Mata won't be leaving Spain, worst for some midtable scrap, and Sanchez is a Red Devil, even your editor has tried telling you that ample times.

You may have new owners, but you're still as mediocre as you've ever been.Do what you do best (living in the past).
"This is our year".Lol.Pathetic.

LONG LIVE WOY, THE KONCH AND POULSO

Blair Is A Doofus

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17 Nov 2010 15:34:39
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I like Ed would go for Kenny if i could only pick One ex player.He would be fantastic between stevie and Torres.If I could have five, Hansen, Hughes, Souness, and Barnes Just give us the title now. Or better still Paisley and Joe, without the players. they would rebuild us into campions again.Now that would be fantasy thoughts Ed. {ed's note - I would back Paisley to win us the league easily.}

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17 Nov 2010 15:16:38
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Aurelio set to make Liverpool return

Liverpool defender Fabio Aurelio is in contention to return in this weekend's Barclays Premier League clash against West Ham.

The Brazilian left-back stepped up his comeback from injury with a 75-minute run-out for the reserves last night.

Aurelio has not played for the first team since August 26 due to Achilles and groin problems but has now declared himself fit.

The 31-year-old told the club's website, 'I have been training well and I was in the squad for the Stoke game but didn't make the bench. Hopefully I can play on Saturday.

'It has been frustrating not to play but I have been working hard and kept my confidence up.'

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17 Nov 2010 15:15:02
{ed's note - has to be Dalglish, we need his creativity and ability to link play.}

Im sure ost fans would agree with you rather than me, But im a massive Hughes fan and i don't understand why he's not in the list of top 5 best players to ever play for us.

I personally think if he was playing today he'd run rings around Stevie.
But then old school was more manly than the players of today, CR7 ring any bells lol. {ed's note - Emlyn was before my time mate, but I would have Souness as my second choice, in my opinion he was a much better player than Gerrard.}

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17 Nov 2010 15:13:44
I can understand why wenger came 1st trophys won without spending vast amounts and going a season without losing, can understand fergie, nicholson as well, the 1st to do the double 1st british team to win a european trophy plus a lot more trophy's, can understand cloughie at 4! but why paisley 6th and shanks 9th surely 5th & 6th?

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17 Nov 2010 15:11:12
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What about fred Rutten as manager Ed he has done a fantastic job at Psv a 70% win record.I like the way he plays the game beating Feyenoord 10 -0 was a exhibition of how you should try and score as many as you can and not get 2-0 up and defend for your life for 45 min. {ed's note - I would just like someone who goes out and tries to win no matter who the opposition is.}

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17 Nov 2010 15:10:37
Dont think John McMahon is any fan of Roy, watching the reserves last night and 2 of our most creative players (Suso and Pacheco ) being played out of position. all the best football played when Pacheco left the right and drifted in behind the front players, if Roy was there I'd say all he would be worried about is leaving space down the right. I think Shelvey, Spearing and Eccelstone have potential but Pacheco is without doubt the most talented and if he's not in the squad for the next game Roy truely knows nothing about football.

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17 Nov 2010 15:10:04
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John Aldridge for next manager, his commentry on city is full of passion, and he has managerial experience.

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17 Nov 2010 15:05:28
Hi Ed heres a question for you, If you could bring back ANY past Liverpool player who would it be, Also to all readers also, Only one though.

Id personally pick Emlyn Hughes. {ed's note - has to be Dalglish, we need his creativity and ability to link play.}

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17 Nov 2010 15:03:02
Inter to get Frank Rijkaard or Carlos Dunga

Rafa could be jobless by the end of month.

Who wants him back. .

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17 Nov 2010 14:49:53
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Aurelio back from injury. is worst than a( tampon isn't he in for a week out for a month) he is like a dog on heat on for 3 weeks off for 6 months. lets just hope and pray he can get a good run now till january

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17 Nov 2010 14:49:45
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Would also like to see suso, wilson given a go as well

chris 1

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We have nothing to lose the way we are playing & at this stage of the session . . I would LOVE to see Pacheco, Suso and Wilson given a chance to break into the team . .

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17 Nov 2010 14:42:41
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The fact is the 'Anfield' landowner that had leased the pitch to Everton from 1868 , decided in 1892 to raise the rates on Everton , Everton FC disagreed and left for Goodison Park . At that moment the landowner himself decided to start a Football Club as he already had the facilities and know how , he named the Football Club - Liverpool Football Club .


You know liverpool football club only came to be due to greed, green of the stadium owner. Sums up moden football.

a sport run by greedy people.

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17 Nov 2010 14:32:36
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THE TREATMENT OF DANI PACHECO BY ROY HODGSON IS NOTHING SHORT OF A DISGRACE! hE DESERVES A CHANCE - AT LEAST A RUN OF 10 STAIGHT GAMES.

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17 Nov 2010 14:03:09
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Please note that the following is purely for entertainment value; not a wish list!

if roy hodgson was given a few quid in january's window and was told to spend it on whoever he wants to be in his liverpool dream team of the future, this could be our starting 11 next season:

calamity james gk
konchesky de
hughes de
baird de
hangeland de
poulsen mf
dempsey mf
scharner mf
duff mf
c.cole st
johnson st

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17 Nov 2010 13:54:22
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ED or anyone, i would like to know your thoughts of the quality of our now fit left back Fabio Aurelio.

Red G from SA {ed's note - he has a quality left foot, decent from a dead ball situation, but he lacks pace and workrate, plus he will get injured again within a month as always.}

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17 Nov 2010 13:47:20
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Just read the yoann gourcoff possibillty and as a liverpool fan and a football fan i hope not hes way over rated lacks pace energy which is what we need. I have seen a lot of him and he went from bordeaux to Lyon in the summer for 25 million and is seen as a huge flop!would prefer hazard or honda myself.

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17 Nov 2010 13:23:44
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Unless hodgson makes more foul ups on the pitch and we drop down the league, we can pretty much assume that he will be hanging around till new year, at least!
as for new signings how can anyone know who we will end up with?long term manager?new ceo?new stadium/ refurb anfield?etc, etc.
the only people that know any thing for sure are the owners, and in the last month or so, they sprung their first surprise with comollis appointment, which no one see coming! i think all business dealings within the club will be dealt with in this way, we only have john henry's promise that he will under promise and over deliver, can we trust him?
i can probably speak for most fans that this keeping everything under wraps policy is driving most of us mad, the not knowing can be unbearable and a strain on us all , loving our club as much as we do we want to know that things are going to change for the better, and the media's rumour mill keeps grinding and never offers a true picture.
so i think john henry and co need to consider that we fans, the bread and butter of the sport, have deep emotional feelings for the club, and they need to be a little more considerate with us , and give at least an indication as to what is going on behind the scenes, to ease our troubled minds.

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17 Nov 2010 13:22:25
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The reason most big clubs haven't gone in for Youann Gourcuff is because he had a stint at AC Millan which wasn't very successful. Real Madrid wanted him but decided not to go for him due to his failed tenure at AC Milan.
I personally think he could do with another chance to prove himself with a big club (Not to say Lyon aren't).
I also fancy his team mate Jérémy Toulalan.

South African YNWA

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17 Nov 2010 13:11:06
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To Chris 1

Completly agree. pacheco is a really good player, although doesn't have the greatest pace in the world. which makes roys comments regarding training him to play on the wing just nonsensical. what do wingers need most. PACE. play him where he is most happy and effective

Cheers mate although I remember King Kenny not breaking any speed records, he had Mr Rush for that. By the way, Torres is pretty quick, any similarities? Well, maybe more if we actually played Pacheco.

YNWA
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absolutely right mate. it wasnt meant to be be critical of the guy. and you are correct kenny didn't have the greatest turn of pace. and that's the point. if roy actually played him where he would do most good we would have a really efective player. I just don't understand roys thinking of wanting him to play on the wing. doesn't make sense to me.
Would also like to see suso, wilson given a go as well

chris 1

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17 Nov 2010 12:59:57
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To Chris 1

Completly agree. pacheco is a really good player, although doesn't have the greatest pace in the world. which makes roys comments regarding training him to play on the wing just nonsensical. what do wingers need most. PACE. play him where he is most happy and effective

Cheers mate although I remember King Kenny not breaking any speed records, he had Mr Rush for that. By the way, Torres is pretty quick, any similarities? Well, maybe more if we actually played Pacheco.

YNWA

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17 Nov 2010 12:49:05
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I live in the real world and it doesn't have YouBook or TubeFace or t* tter, so I have no interest in having 398 imaginary friends and endless wishlists from 12 year olds to deal with!
FRUSTRATED MATE?
i know were your coming from, i just wish people would stop posting team line ups and long lists of who we should buy? its supposed to be a rumours site not a liars site, i have been a fan for a long time and know a lot of people but all i have heard is we are tying for a winger and a striker, its hard getting any information even from the academy, to be fair if i was a footballer i don't think i would want to play for roy would you? bob paisleys skids

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17 Nov 2010 12:45:18
To ynwa


Pacheco plays in the same position as the great King Kenny did, so to use him as a winger would not make sense. We need to use players in the positions they are good at. As in not using CM's as RM's Mr Hodgeson. If we are struggling in those areas, use the youth we have. These kids will be hungry to prove a point.

YNWA
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Completly agree. pacheco is a really good player, although doesn't have the greatest pace in the world. which makes roys comments regarding training him to play on the wing just nonsensical. what do wingers need most. PACE. play him where he is most happy and effective

chris 1

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17 Nov 2010 12:32:26
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I saw that bob paisley came 6th in greatest ever british CLUB managers behind 5th stein, 4th cloughie 3rd nicholson 2nd old red nose and wenger came top think shanks came 9th? it was chosen by some greats of the football world, football writers/ pundits and fans!

To be fair Paisley did win more than Shankly, although Shankly did build the beast. I would have peronally put Paisley second though behind old red nose. I know we can't do with the guy but you can't knock his record. Cloughie would come top for one liners though. Genius with his gob.

YNWA

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17 Nov 2010 12:28:26
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He's record speak volumes:
He won the Golden Boot at the 2010 U-19 Championships scoring against Portugal, Italy, England . . before this, Pacheco had a huge reputation as a rising star with the Barcelona's youth academy . . he's nicknamed there was El Asesino ("The Assassin") as he scored from anywhere, here's our wingerstriker that people keep saying we need, we have him now so let's use him! !

Pacheco plays in the same position as the great King Kenny did, so to use him as a winger would not make sense. We need to use players in the positions they are good at. As in not using CM's as RM's Mr Hodgeson. If we are struggling in those areas, use the youth we have. These kids will be hungry to prove a point.

YNWA

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17 Nov 2010 12:25:49
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I saw that bob paisley came 6th in greatest ever british CLUB managers behind 5th stein, 4th cloughie 3rd nicholson 2nd old red nose and wenger came top think shanks came 9th? it was chosen by some greats of the football world, football writers/ pundits and fans!

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17 Nov 2010 12:19:13
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On Pacheco, Why is this guy not being given a chance, lets face it we need to blood some of these guys in the league to see how they get on . .

He's record speak volumes:
He won the Golden Boot at the 2010 U-19 Championships scoring against Portugal, Italy, England . . before this, Pacheco had a huge reputation as a rising star with the Barcelona's youth academy . . he's nicknamed there was El Asesino ("The Assassin") as he scored from anywhere, here's our wingerstriker that people keep saying we need, we have him now so let's use him! !

If we are going to be successful we HAVE to gives youngsters like Pacheco a chance rather then look to offload them!

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17 Nov 2010 11:22:19
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When aurelio is not injured he's a very gifted player. the problem is roys system doesn't allow for attacking fullbacks (never mind attacking strikers) eg johnson or insua so lets hope he gives aurelio a chance at left midfield.
although i like lucas, i read a funny comment the other day: "lucas suspended for west ham game. . west ham to appeal"!
well once west ham realise that poulsen is his replacement they will withdraw the appeal.

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17 Nov 2010 10:46:57
"also was very impressed with barry bannan"

My mate is a Villa supporter and was raving about this guy and Albrighton before the season kicked off.They certainly have some good youngsters at Villa and are not frightened to play them

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17 Nov 2010 10:44:34
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I think that under a new attacking manager that our team could look something like:
Reina
Kelly-Ayala-Agger/ Wilson-Insua/ Mavinga
Lucas/ Meireles-Gerrard
Bruna-Suso-Pacheco
Torres

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17 Nov 2010 10:16:46
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Hi Ed was chatting to friend of mine last night who is friends with a top Scottish agent he was saying the new owners have informed top players like reina gerrard n torres that the search was on for our new manager and that it has been narrowed down to 3-4 that they want he wouldn't say who but that all 3 were young hungrey top managers and that is why Roy is still here cause it will be the summer before we can poach these guys away from there jobs , could it be jose , pep , lowe

{Editor's Note: Nope.}

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17 Nov 2010 10:08:06
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Liverpool ins in jan, fan heater to keep the bench warm at £9.99 is a snip and more useful than poulsen and babel please woy make this addition

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17 Nov 2010 09:37:49
{Editor's Note: My understanding is that the term is "puppy fat".}

McPuppy Fat. Lovin' it.


RED LENIN

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17 Nov 2010 09:29:45
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{Editor's Note: Taiwo's situation remains unchanged - he wants to play regularly and seems happy to stay at Marseille. He has an offer on the table which he wants improving. I expect Manchester City to perhaps show an interest - but Liverpool really does not seem to be an option. I am not surprised to see Emiliano Insua returning - so a decision needs to be made about him. I don't see a left back coming in from elsewhere.}


Perhaps we could fit him with a gastric band? Seriously, if they can sort out his eating habots and keep him off the junk food then it will be good to see him back.

RED LENIN

{Editor's Note: My understanding is that the term is "puppy fat".}

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17 Nov 2010 09:28:06
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Just a personal opinion but I genuinely do not understand those fans that actually want Insua back at Anfield.

He is terrible at defending and isn't that what a defender is supposed to do?.

He is slow and I got sick of the sight of him flailing his right arm trying to pull back his opponent as the opponent glided past him. .every opponent, every fcuking time!

Ok, he can look good going forwards (so long as you don't expect him to get back any time soon). But has anyone spotted how we play football under Roy? He'd be lucky to ever see the half way line again.

Frenchy.

Insua? No thanks (for me anyway).

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17 Nov 2010 09:02:00
In my job I am regularly asked to speak to the Press and believe me, saying just enough to please them is an art. The way Roy Hodgson comes out with all the extra and totally unecessary comments shows that he should not be involved so much in handling the Press. Far too much information Roy, and very damaging to both the Club and our reputation. Making unecessary comments only feeds the frenzy and brings unwanted attention to our Club and players.
Can someone in LFC please take Roy to one side and drum into him the need to say only what is required?
Perhaps then we could get back to the matter in hand - securing a Champions League place and pushing on for No 19.

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17 Nov 2010 09:01:18
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Decent debut for danny wilson last nite for scotland, scored and looked assured on the ball reminded me of a young agger, just hope woy will start to use him a bit more, also was very impressed with barry bannan of aston villa only 20yrs old maybe commoli should get on the phone to his fellow coutryman houllier and strike a deal, just think bannan and adam johnson on the wings supplying torres looks quite promising and neither would really break the bank and neither would take time to settle like most foriegners do, any thoughts ?
Paul

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17 Nov 2010 08:47:22
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Morning all,
Just a thought, why not promote John McMahon to manager? He has the the youngsters playing good attacking football and surely would give nthe youngsters a chance also. Ed?

YNWA

{Editor's Note: It is never really as simple as that - I am sure it will get figured out in the longer term.}

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17 Nov 2010 08:41:41
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We are being linked with every French, spanish, italian and montserrat u21 under the sun as they are looking for 'top 4, young players' yet Danny Pacheco can't even get time on the bench. I'm sure any youngsters who are looking at his situation are going to have serious doubts about joining

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17 Nov 2010 08:25:53
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{Editor's Note: Pacheco is a talent no doubt - but everything Hodgson says and does now is simply being twisted by the fans. I agree that Pacheco should eb given a chance, but I very much doubt he is ready to play every game.}

I know, he is not up to that level, that he is given a go every time, but doesn't he deserve to be on the bench. . I saw him play against Blackpool for reserve side and coming behind the striker, he was just awesome. . And europa leage fixtures are there too, where he can start, as we are just 1 point short of sealing a place in next round. .

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17 Nov 2010 08:15:07
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"I just want to say that PACHECO is a very talented youngster and has a place in the first team! I just don't understand roy hodgson. Now pacheco wants to leave liverpool because of hodgson! I've heard about Hodgson who wanted to find a new "Gareth Bale" but Hodgson doesn't know that the top player has been here for three years! Dani Pacheco will play for Barcelona and you'll see ROY! "

Words commented on Liverpoolfc.tv by a fan. .
I know if he would have said Real madrid then Barcelona, it would have been better. . Because Pacheco is Madrid fan. .But, It do make some sense, Roy wants new "Bale", but is not allowing the one, who can be it. .
Ur thoughts, ed?

{Editor's Note: Pacheco is a talent no doubt - but everything Hodgson says and does now is simply being twisted by the fans. I agree that Pacheco should eb given a chance, but I very much doubt he is ready to play every game.}

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17 Nov 2010 08:13:06
I was quite pleased to see Rafa go.He had simply run his course at the club, it was time to move on.
On the other hand he was a damn sight better than RH.
The club will not improve in any aspect until RH has
gone.
Sadly NESV have little real knowledge of how football and footballers work and consequently have been slow to do what is badly needed.It will happen but how much more damage will be done before he goes.

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17 Nov 2010 08:08:44
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My wishlist / rumour for January is that we buy NO or VERY FEW players using LITTLE investment. Why? Because it will be a clear sign that Hodgson is only stop gap sitting lame duck manager until the rest of the season. I'll also be down the bookies if this happens to have a few quid on him going ;-)

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17 Nov 2010 08:07:36
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No players will sign for the club for the right reasons as long as Roy is manager.You will only get those that come for the money or no one else wants.

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17 Nov 2010 06:39:36
Morning Ed.
I was just having a think about things and trying to put things into perspective. Nesv have been the onwers for 2 months now (ish). They have appointed Camolli (spelling) given interviews and said the right things in said interviews. The team is out of the bottom three and nando has maybe got his touch back (thank god). I am well aware the football isn't upto liverpool quality and some of the senior players are not best pleased. If we were top of the league but still playing the same football would the players then be happy as we have been winning or would they still be unhappy? ?? winning breeds confidence and loosing breeds well more losses probably, Roy aside do you think this is the major problem or is it simply down to roy and his backroom staff? ?? apart from sacking roy there is no other answer apart from hardwork and loyalty by the players. we could sack roy today but that does not mean we will be in top four come jan, we may be worse off as surely it would take 8-10 games for the new manager to get his ideas across and get to know the players. I think the club are doing all they can behind the scenes but it will just take time. comments please everyone? ?

matty b

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17 Nov 2010 04:42:24
Stop bashing NESV, they are smart people who know how to win. They will get the club on the right track. . Furthermore why isn't anyone calling for the players to be accountable, arent they payed loads of money to play a game, and actually try and give a damn. There has been 2 games all year this happened

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17 Nov 2010 03:06:57
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John henry and co are in a no win situation with hodgson, and he knows it, just look at the predicament he has them in.

a/ if they sack him now, the press will have a field day making him the victim, and damage NESV'S image.
b/ if they keep him, they face loss of key players, loss of fans support and trust, and a relegation battle.
c/ he will never quit, he is in denial, and his arrogance will never let him.
d/ and this is the only way to be rid of him, and that is to bide their time, and just let him make enough mistakes, so their only option is to sack him.
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Sorry, but I don't see any negatives to option (a) - they don't really have an image to protect - Liverpool fans (a majority anyway) want him out. The press are having a field day as it is because Roy can't keep his mouth shut. Every new day brings a new player wanting to go elsewhere (according to press). Option (a) is easily the best way forward. I honestly believe we would play better without a manager at all than with Roy. - LIVERPRES

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17 Nov 2010 02:02:40
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My Wishlist? Just a manager that is willing to let the youngsters play. How do these world class players come about? They were given chances by their managers. Who knows? One of your youngsters might become one of the biggest stars in football someday.

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17 Nov 2010 01:56:14
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16 Nov 2010 23:21:16
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Liverpool need a few Irish and Scots in their side like they always had too many foreign players . They have no heart

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Are there any around these days though? Might get a few more Phil Babbs, but can't think of any Ronnie Whelans.

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17 Nov 2010 01:49:43
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . .Reina. . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . . . . . . . Kelly. . Carragher. . . . . . . . .
. . Johnson. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aurelio. .

. . . . . . . . .Gerrard. . . .Meireles. . . . . . . . .
Pacheco. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Eccleston

. . . . . . . . . . .Suso. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Torres. . . . . . . . . . .

Using youth and pace to attack the opposition , allowing the full backs to get forward , utilising the experience of Carragher , Gerrard , Meireles to protect the young players .

The team playing to score goals .

1977

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17 Nov 2010 01:44:41
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Kiddox {ed's note - I think quite the opposite, what he needs is first team games to gain experience. After all every defender has been poor this season, so saying he had a bad game is hardly a reason to decide he is not up to the job. At least he would offer a bit more pace than Skrtel, Carra and Kyrgiakos.}

Is wilson pacy? I know he cannot be as slow as Carra and Soto! Honestly ed I am in favor of having two pacy centrebacks that can also play football and not just hoof it and head it. That is why I truly believe our best partnership at the moment would be Kelly at RCB with Agger at LCB. Obviously D-Aggs is injured so use Wilson there until he is fit again. Glen Johnson has not been having a great year but I think the reason he seems to get exposed so much when he is attacking upfield is that Carra and Skrtel and Soto cannot get over to cover for him.
Anfield Rapstar

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17 Nov 2010 00:56:21
Danny Wilson just scored his first GOAL for Scotland in his first full cap, Going to be a Alan Hanson in the future

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That is the kind of belief that LFC was built upon , if only Roy Hodgson had half as much passion as 'The Fans' , our young players would be making a name for themselves , like they always were allowed to do , duirng the boot room years .

1977

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17 Nov 2010 00:46:22
LFC played in blue and white quarters for only 4 years , before changing to red and white in 1896 - there was a little black in the kit for only six seasons . Then , in 1965 , Bill Shankly decided the team should play in an all red strip .

"They looked like giants and they played like giants"

1977

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17 Nov 2010 00:32:55
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Carlton cole is 27 years of age , he has scored 49 goals in 228 professional games , there is no future for him at LFC .

1977

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17 Nov 2010 00:27:25
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Boggles the mind how people are posting:
outs
Konch 5m
Poulsen 5m

We bought Konch for 3.5, and Poulsen for 4! do you really expect us to make a profit from these two!

Not to mention, babel will never sell for 11m, nor aurelio for anything. was free in the summer, nobody went for him then, why should they now he has a transfer fee?

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17 Nov 2010 00:17:08
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Can i just say about these people saying woy should be giving the youth a shot when rafa didn't give them a shot i do agree we got sum awesome talent for the future i do think we could nurse a few into the team in lower teams just one or two. also about this negative football in a press confrence why doesn't someone step up and say come on roy sort it out we have a great attacking side we don't need to sit bck and play on the counter we can pressure teamss what

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17 Nov 2010 00:15:00
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It was good to read the comments from John Henry and Damian Comolli today. Since the takeover, NESV don't appear to have put a foot wrong. They have a vision for the future of LFC that I would think most fans share (A combination of products of the youth system blended with world class signings), they are obviously looking properly at all options concerning Anfield/ Stanley Park, and want the club run placed on a strong financial and commercial footing. The only thing most of us would pick fault in is their failure to remove Roy, but given that they are doing so much right, I must assume they are right about Roy staying on for now. I'm beginning to wonder if a new manager has already been lined up, and that it has been kept totally secret. Maybe he is not available until the summer, and doesn't want to upset his current team. This is all just guesswork. I simply cannot understand how John Henry, who has done everything right so far, would allow Roy to carry on if there wasn't a bigger picture.

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16 Nov 2010 23:59:46
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I am not a Roy fan but you guys need to calm down about Danny Wilson this guy needs a few years to develop trust me. Did you not see him in the Northampton game, shocking hence why we haven't seen him again and defended poor in the reserve game we drew 3-3. Scoring in the reserves and against the Faroe (Mighty) island and running around in the SPL doesn't make you an exciting prospect. Pre-season run is needed and the cups before he is even considered - what do you think ed?

Kiddox {ed's note - I think quite the opposite, what he needs is first team games to gain experience. After all every defender has been poor this season, so saying he had a bad game is hardly a reason to decide he is not up to the job. At least he would offer a bit more pace than Skrtel, Carra and Kyrgiakos.}

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