Liverpool Banter Archive May 17 2014

17 May 2014 23:10:36
Help me please someone think I've got a heart attack coming on, there have been reports of an official £22 million bid for Lallana, £12 million bid for Can, and a £35 million double offer for Lovren and Lallana all within the last hour as well as a £15 million offer for Shaqiri supposedly being prepared. Silly season or are we looking to build a whole new team before the world cup?

{Ed002's Note - A year of transition no doubt.}

Pure fictionary

17 May 2014 23:11:35
Seems we have so many players who are possible departures this summer some are definite and some depend on arrivals.

Some of these players are also wanted or could be used as part of any transfer for players we are interested in.

For example Llalana of Southampton although we have made a bid they also have an interest in both Luis Alberto and Jose Enrique.
This may aid us in keeping funds for other players.

With Sevilles Moreno we could if possible offer the likes of Coates, Reina, Aspas and Enrique even. Again these may help with funding moves and saving transfer funds.

I'm not saying these players would be interested in moving to these clubs but it could prove beneficial to us.

In the likes of Teixera, and even Ilori we could offer season long loans to the likes of Seville which may swing any deal in our favour.

The above two players as well as hopefully Shaqiri would be great business for the club and would still give us funds for other deals. Maybe Konoplyanka too?

If only it worked that way. this is not craigslist

17 May 2014 22:41:09
I expect to see us sign a CDM, probably a young player, I think we'll get that Siguel Nunez ( I think that's his name ).

Saul Niguez mate.

This was meant to be in reply to Bootroom blarney, thanks JR for the clarification.

18 May 2014 04:30:53
Thanks plymouth

I though BR wanted players for now. Niguez would be yet another in the future pile which is getting really big.

17 May 2014 20:15:29
Hi eds, fellow reds, do u see Liverpool looking to get a defensive midfielder as competition with lucas or do u think it will be stevie and lucas competing for that position or do u think stevie will be moved further forward maybe the right side of midfield?

17 May 2014 20:43:18
Ooh, hilarious, Gerrard is 34 mate. There's a very good reason he has been moved to DM.

Kotomoto A modern DM probably has to do the most of running in a game . aka yaya toure fernandinho, that is why they are called the engine . I don't get your point.

{Ed001's Note - how often does Yaya play as a DM?}

18 May 2014 09:02:25
If a DM runs all game then he is awful and doesn't do his supposed job at all!

And Yaya Toure is not a DM and never has been, if Gerrard is our engine at 34 we are doomed. He is our Anchor, there is a reason that role is called anchor man.
My point is Gerrard has no legs to run up and down the length of the pitch and you're talking out your backside because we have 2 midfielders playing ahead of Gerrard while mancity play with 2 and none of them is a DM. Hallelujah Gerrard is our new RW? Worst idea ever!

Yaya doesn't play as a DM anymore nor does the DM has to be an engine, they just have to be intelligent in positioning.

17 May 2014 20:05:48
Arsenal players throwing Wenger in the air.
Chiles asks Keane 'Is this something your lot would consider doing to Ferguson Roy'?

Keane: 'yeah, well we would throw him up, but NOT catch him when he came back down'!

You got to luv the guy (sometimes), very funny.

Lol nice one Roy.

17 May 2014 19:19:34
The best way to get rid of the boring half hour extra time is to do a penalty shoot out before the game! Do it first when all the players are fully fit & there's virtually no pressure because it may not even need to be referred to that way because the result is already known one of the teams will have to try win it

Thats a terrible idea. If arsenal win the penalty shootout and its extra time, all they have to do is sit back and draw. Plus the whole drama of a penalty shootout is the fun of it?

It will encourage the winners of the shoot out to park the bus.

Sorry, your idea is no better than the tried and tested extra time and pens.

Hmmm. So you don't think that would lead to the side that won penalties shutting up shop?

Could you imagine how bad Chelsea would be (in terms of parking the bus) if they won the penalty shoot-out before the match, the next time they are in the final and that rule was in place!

17 May 2014 20:08:39
Surely it's better one team shutting up shop & one team going hell for leather to win then neither side trying in extra time & playing out a boring half hour?

Like bayern and dortmund tonight haha

17 May 2014 22:09:18
I rarely find extra time boring, a lot of chances and often goals as well. You just love a penalty shoot-out I think ;)

17 May 2014 17:49:28
gooday edwinas,

Xherdan Shaqiri - is this more lazy paper talk?ive checked rumours and read down banter page but I may have missed if this has been asked.sorry if it has.thanking you.

{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine.}

Latest thing I can find on him is 20th march ed, I assume nothing has changed since then or you would have said?thanks

{Ed002's Note - Shaqiri is one of the players Bayern are looking to sell and they are seriously pissed with him right now. Sevilla and Fiorentina have a declared interest with Liverpool, Napoli and Juventus having made tentative enquiries. Bayern are taking an interest in Pogba and are looking to include Shaqiri in a deal - but Shaqiri apparently does not want to go there and Pogba is settled, at least for a week or two.}

17 May 2014 17:07:42
Hey eds, change from the norm but what is the most memerable post you have read in the time you have run this site.

Nosh

{Ed002's Note - There are too many to remember. There have been some good ones in response to me explaining that many of the posters were no doubt shaven-headed, lager-swilling, pot-bellied, tattooed knuckle-dragging oafs. Quite a few admitted that they were. One admitted that he was but took exception to the lager reference as he was a Newcastle Brown Ale drinker. Another admitted that he had previously been called "an illiterate knuckle dragging oaf" but felt he had advanced to the status of "literate knuckle dragging oaf".

17 May 2014 15:58:31
Orite fellas. I have heard a lot of reference since the end of the season about us wanting to get our work done early rather than later but there seems to be nothing but speculation out there and i'm wondering are we making good progress with OUR targets whoever they may be?

Secondly with regards to Lallana, is it all but dead now due to there valuation or is there work going on as we speak?

Thanks for all you assistance and good luck for this busy period :)

{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer questions about the timing of transfers. There is nothing new with Lallana - Liverpool has not yet made any further bid.}

17 May 2014 13:28:25
I'd be surprised if Liverpools next bid if they make one for lallanna will be accepted. just my speculation but I guess we offered somewhere between 12-15 mill up front and add ons up to about 18. I'm guessing their next offer will be something like 17-18 mill rising to perhaps 20 on appearances and if we win the league. if we still really want him I could see us offering about 20 mill rising to about 24 if we win the league and on appearances.
Just my two cents what y'all think?

{Ed002's Note - Not even close.}

It seemed unlikely you'd just guess the ins and outs of the deal.
Ed2 I know you have a hatred of finances but was our first offer of a payment upfront, and, if it wasn't, could that be a reason why Southampton didn't accept it?

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to explaining the proposal from Liverpool.}

Reading between the lines, I'd guess our initial offer was somewhere between ludicrous and ridiculous.

Wasn't expecting to be close really was just as the sites for a bit of banter!. anyway if we actually offered less than 10 million I would just not do business with us. like I understand if someone is valued at 20 million trying to get it down by low balling it a bit and meeting somewhere around 16-18 but for a player who basically has a price tag of 25 mill to offer 10 mill ish and probably not even up front in my opinion is taking the mickey. even if I'm still wrong eds I don't really care my point of going in with ludacris offers puts people off rather than opens negotiations

17 May 2014 13:13:12
is there any word on what will happen with suso, not sure about other fans but I think he could be a very good squad player for next season.

{Ed002's Note - There is nothing new.}

17 May 2014 10:30:30
Hi Ed
Picking the bones out of some of the more realistic press gossip, I think Adam Lallana, Dejan Lovren, Xherdan Shaqiri or Konoplyanka are good bets to arrive at L4 next season any thoughts Ed?
Royzered

{Ed002's Note - Done to death - please read the posts.}

17 May 2014 07:33:03
Hey eds,
Just another quick one.
How many players do you expect Liverpool to sign over the transfer window? I know you've said previously that we need to sell before we buy, but since we are in UCL now, we would need a few more players in that can help strengthen our squad because our bench was pretty weak last season.
Cheers.

{Ed002's Note - Brendo says 1 or 2. Sorry, Brendo says 6 or 7. Before the Chelsea game, Mr Ayre motivated the players by saying it will be a very different squad next season. I will stick with about half a dozen overall.}

17 May 2014 01:37:37
Seeing as the interest in parejo is serious. A question for ed 001 and all the posters (only those who have seen him play)
What is his preffered position and what is he like a player?
I only watched him in the Madrid game and he looked really good to me although as far as I can remember he was playing out of position
Any thoughts and views would be appreciated

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen him in a while, but I seem to remember him being a central midfielder.}

He is a central midfielder, who can play as an attacking midfielder, but not very effective there.

He is composed and has a good range of passing. Not one to dive in or tackle really, he rather put pressure o the opposition. He is s similar player in essence to Joe Allen or a Nuri Sahin.

We need a box to box type like Guarin or Kovacic but if we go for a player like Parejo then Emre Can would be my preferred choice. He is more versatile, younger and provides more value for money.

{Ed002's Note - You might want to read an earlier post about Can.}

16 May 2014 21:53:37
Have you seen Parejo play Ed001? If so, do you think he would be a good signing?

{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen him play for a couple of years, I did watch him a couple of times for QPR and a good 10 or so games for Getafe. He looked a decent prospect back then, more of a Barca player, from what I saw, than Real Madrid, whose youth team he came through. I am really trying to rack my brains now to remember much, but I do remember he looked like he was certainly technically good enough for the Prem at Getafe.}

Alright thanks. For a while there I thought you were talking about Granero.

16 May 2014 21:24:14
Evening eds, is there any intereat in Arda Turan, heard romours about him a while ago. Thanks

{Ed002's Note - Not right now.}

16 May 2014 19:14:27
Hi eds what's the latest with Will Hughes is the feeling if Derby get promoted he will be with them next season and is Liverpool interest still real?

{Ed002's Note - The season isn't over yet.}

16 May 2014 18:02:00
Eds do you think Rogers is willing to let Suso leave? I'd be gutted, think he's a top young talent.

{Ed002's Note - There will be a balance - we will see.}