Liverpool Banter Archive May 17 2013

 

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17 May 2013 23:20:51
That's why I wouldn't want the so called special 1 I'd rather my beloved Liverpool lose with dignity not like animals LFC FOREVER. JON96 {Ed019's Note - Well said}

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Really its because we can't afford him if truth be said!

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18 May 2013 08:17:36
whats the point in buying PL which cost 20 mill after spending 150 mil.
Jose mourninho will not succeed second time. simple as that.

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Cant afford is erelevant we wouldn't want is the statement the mess he has left at all the teams he has managed is there for all with open eyes to see personally think the job hiddink and ancelotti done was brilliant picking up the pieces

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17 May 2013 22:47:18
Courtois is absolute class would love him to be our new gk {Ed019's Note - We have Reina}

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Thats why we are 7th ed (op)

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Currently I think Reina is better. keep in mind that earlier in the season, Reina kinda lost his form, but going into the season he did become better, to his old self. probably people won't remember this too much but at times when we were 1 up, he made a crucial save and then we scored another. if he didn't save that, at 1 - 1 game wouldev probably be different. trust me, Reina was involved in a lot of our wins.

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Courtois is too good for us at the moment, Chelski could flog him for £30-40 million to Madrid/Barca if they wanted but they will keep him because he is the best u21 in the world in his position, unarguably.

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Reina was also involved in a lot of our losses constantly gives the ball away and flaps at corners

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Reina would be top notch in Spain. He is a great shot stopper but also a short flapper like De Donut at Utd, not ideal for Prem.

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18 May 2013 05:40:26
Ed, it's a bit unfair at this stage to class those two together. I'll have Courtois anyday. {Ed019's Note - Reina is what we need atm, Courtois wouldn't join us anyway due to the high price tag}

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17 May 2013 21:58:02
Chelsea are praying to get Jose back.

what a team real madrid is. exceptional players.
and yet he hasn't won anything. absolute noting.

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He is the most successful manager over the last decade or so without a doubt.

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18 May 2013 08:20:23
apart from porto. he bought success with enormous money. yet failed and outlcassed this seaosn.
he play only one type of boring football.

cant believe. yesterday. we saw one of the best No. 10 ozil playing out wide to accomodate modric.

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Nothing? Didn't he win la liga last season?

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Any Real coach has a 50/50 chance of la liga. Only 2 teams.

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Mourinho won La Liga back from Barca after a period of domination (when they were considered the best team in Europe) and with a records point tally. Didn't he win a Spanish Cup too? Not sure but thought he did. Still, he does trend to leave his teams in a mess which is why I wouldn't want him at my club.

HB

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17 May 2013 21:57:06
So far tonight we have had on this page

Kenny Rafa and Carra slagged off well done lads!

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An absolute disgrace. It's not like they are ALL trolls either. Support the team, support the legends, or do one to some other plastic team.

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17 May 2013 21:41:35
Hi Eds, watever happen to Park chu young who arrive with much fanfare from Monaco to Arsenal? {Ed019's Note - He failed to live up to expectation}

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17 May 2013 21:54:26
One position We must fill is Downings.
if we could get 10-12 mill for him and we could add another 8 mil. Turan is the answer. excellent player.

Turan countinho suarez
sturridge

that would seal the deal.

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Harry, I often agree with what you write but not this time, sorry. Downing has been playing very well lately and should carry on. Aren't we trying to build a squad?

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I agree with this Harry, Arda is a fantastic player.
Scouse_Pride
I think he would adapt better than Sahin to the BPL also.

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Downing was dropped from the team and fought his way back, adding competition would be ideal, but selling him at this point, I don't know if its a good idea, unless we get big bids which is very unlikely.

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18 May 2013 08:22:57
lets face it. we are not going to get anything big. but we need to move to the next level. we need to get goals and assist from right side. and downing simply ain't not.
he is just a squad player. and probably would be with any other team. I honestly don't think he is going to start with spurs, city, chelsea, UTD or even everton.

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Don't get the fascination with Turan. And we have Suarez and Coutinho playing down that left side with Downing & Sterling able to play there. We need a right sided goalscorer who will track back. And we should keep Downing - with him in the team our form this year is top 4. Ince is the best option and let's focus on defence.

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Spot on harry but if I were to spend the money I would rather go for someone little younger mertens/erikson

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Mertens or Tello to replace Downing. At 29 not a good idea for squad player either. Move him on.

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17 May 2013 21:42:39
Thought I would put an end to all the speculation and let you all know our main transfer targets.

1. A replacement for Jamie. Papadopoulos, Albiol, Rami or Chedjou.
2. A replacement for Coates. Ilori, Zouma, Bruma.
3. Attacking midfielder. Eriksson, Williams,
4. Winger. Ince, Sinclair, Feghouli or Dzsudzs�k.

No need to thank me.
Leccyonthefiddle.

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None of those wongers are our targets

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Eriksson? Who is that? Sound swedish? DanielDenmark

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Has wongers replaced 'person' eds

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Lol no its my fat fingers using a touch screen phone I spelt wongers instead of wingers

Wongers is a good one though

ya bunch of wongers

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17 May 2013 22:26:41
Seen quite a bit of St Etienne this season really to watch Aubameyang as he's quality, but got to say Zouma is a cracking defender. It probably won't come to fruition but whatever team gets him is getting a great prospect. Defo going to keep my fingers crossed that we snare him though, whether it be a long shot or not.

JFT 96

JP

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17 May 2013 22:13:31
We should make a move for Danny Houghton from Hull. A brilliant defender if ever I've seen one. Maybe its just Super League Fever?
Captain Slow

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17 May 2013 21:14:24
Macca, Are we back in for Ince this summer? What do you think of the Eriksen/ Papadopoulos rumours?

Thanks

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17 May 2013 21:13:21
@Samsam

Samed Yesil has got a hell of a future in the game. The only striker in our accademy, who I can see bettering him is Sinclair. Seyi Ojo may move into a more central forward role one day even, but he's 15 years old. For the next 3 years, Yesil will be more than adequate back up, and may even cement a spot in the side. You don't get nicknamed 'Gerd' for no reason.

My strikers next year would be Sturridge, Borini, Yesil and Sinclair (with Suarez able to cover in the centre if needed). I really think Suarez would be great as a wide forward though, where he plays for Uruguay. He is not clinical enough to be our focal point on a regular basis, and he is virtually at his peak (unlike the 4 above who will all improve). Whatever way you look at it, 30 goals in nearly 200 shots is not good enough.
If I was to compare those 4 strikers to similar players, I would say Sturridge is very much like a young Henry. Good pace, power, both feet and adequate in the air. Borini is very much like Ole Gunner Soljskaer in the sense that he has no outstanding attributes, but grabs goals, even from the bench (he proved that at Roma and just needs to settle here). Yesil is more unique, but has similar traits to Fowler, the ball just sticks to his feet, and he'll just put in the net by whatever means necessary. As for Sinclair, he is so similar to a young Owen, its scary. We can't afford to burn this one out though! He has pace to burn and just glides past people without any real skill needed, a drop of the shoulder does it. His finishing is clinical. If we want a target man, we've even got Ngoo in the reserves. that's a diverse range of forwards who should be our 4/5 first choice strikers for the next 5-10 years. I simply cannot see them all failing to make the grade. Sturridge is virtually there already.

Unfortunately, I cannot see Morgan or Pacheco making it with us. I really don't want us to sign a striker this year, as we have some serious talent in the forward areas, and we will simply push them out the door. One wide forward such as Tello/Ince would be more than enough to take us into next season. All we need is to re-structure the defence and add some steel to the midfield. Coutinho, Texeira, Shelvey and Suso are more than enough for attacking midfielder options, even if Shelvey is sold.

I suppose to conclude (and this wasn't all aimed at you Samsam, just the part regarding Yesil) we have some serious talent coming through our ranks, and we should not ruin their chances by signing higher wage/less potential players. The odd experienced signing here and there is more than sufficient.

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Never mind me asking who wrote this I should have known it was Adam, great post and very accurate.
Scouse_Pride

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Texiera will not make it for Liverpool. Sorry to say.

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17 May 2013 19:25:07
Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but them words from Mr Drogba concerning Jamie Car rather says it all.

Danny Murphy even laughed when Jamie tried to get back on the pitch after that gobs**** Lucas Neil broke his leg.

A hard player with a lions heart.

Anyway, the club will move forward and its up to Martin Kelly to try and get in there, but I suspect he's always going to be plagued by injuries and bad luck.

DaveyBootle

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Kelly is not in the Carra mould

Kelly is made of glass

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17 May 2013 18:34:53
If we bought zouma we would play him at RB till he's 23 and then buy a CB to replace him like will probably happen with Kelly

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17 May 2013 18:10:35
Are there any plans to retire Carra' s number 23 shirt when he goes? I can't think of a more fitting and respectful tribute to the Legend that is Jamie Carragher. He deserves such an honour.

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No. I'm sorry but many legends have traveled through this club and not had their numbers retired. I don't see why the club should start now.
derryred

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17 May 2013 18:07:17
Hi eds and reds,
One centre back to replace Skrtel and Carragher.
One inside forward to replace Downing and Assaidi.
One centre forward to replace Carroll and Pacheco.
Does that seem like a realistic transfer window?

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17 May 2013 20:12:15
Does our club have a solution on the fact that the club is losing money?

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Champions league football

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Yes, the plan is to decrease expenditure whilst simultaneously increasing income.

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Put a good team out who can win and every thing else will follow and when we are back at the top we will use our knowledge of what we failed to do last time to our advantage. ynwa the premiership will be ours soon live the dream and support lfc.

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A new bigger stadium with more damn seats.

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17 May 2013 18:04:49
i guarantee we won't sign Kurt Zouma just his agent linking us with him to boost price up happens all the time

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17 May 2013 17:40:22
Does anyone else think it may be a possibility that we sign zouma and illori instead of the big name centre halfs we have been linked with and give Kelly a chance?

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17 May 2013 17:26:36
few flaws we need to look back which cost us 4th place.

Defense-

letting go 3 in the back of net against WBA was the start of it. We had a terrible defense. Stats may not show but it was easy to score against us. So many mistakes.
History shows no matter how many ronaldos and peles and messis come and go the teams that have been winning are one with a water tight, meanest defenses. teams that don't let opp�ents score easyly. THIS IS OUR BIGGEST PROBLEME. No matter how attractive we play. How much br's team shows flair if we want to get back we must start from the defense. Sply at the start of season, as season goes by crietivity and attack gets devoloped. But defanse should be the base of a good season

Good start-

we had jus 3 pts from our opening 5 games. That was the main reason we are not in the mix of 4th place. Sure we can point out the tough fix list. But who knows next season it might be even more tougher. Any how we must get past this opening few fix without dropping pts.

Consistancy-

now we showed title wing form in many matches but also relegation form in many. We need to improve on that. I know we won't sign our all targets but atlest we must have big enough squad to go though whole season, not like last season, a half season without 2nd striker.

Losses -

i know this argument may sound stupid but, this must be on the mind of every pool player the we should not lose. At least a draw. Now some may find this negative to settel for a draw. But what the main thing is not to lose. If u can get my point. Sure team should be able to make draws turn wins. But if not that atlest to turn a loss in a draw. Its mentality that gets effected more if we loose too much.


Now all this I talked abt is bcoz its in our hands. Transfer and money is not. What ever the roumers are we know only 50-60% of the required signings are going to happen. And more than that its these basics that team like man u. Works hard for. that's why they r ther for so long irrespective of money or no money

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17 May 2013 17:24:40
It proved to be a mistake - Sturrage was bought as result of the fiasco of no replacement for Carol and now the back room staff have been working with him for a few months they have found out why both city and chelski didn’t want him – prima Dona – whos got no appetite for effort of two games a week – I don’t post much but when I do post its facts rather than fiction

RIP96

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Has your opinion on Sturridge changed yet or is it still the same

Taffytel

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What a clown good job exposing these fake fans

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Lay off him taffytel, he was referring to Sturrage not Sturridge, its true that Sturrage has scored no goals for us this year, pathetic - I blame Joe Allen for this.

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Oh my word I cannot believe what I have just read 11 goals and 3 assists in 15 games. Do you require medical help?

GET REAL

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17 May 2013 16:49:43
Ed. Did you notice.
the line " Rome wasn't built in a day. " Disappeared?

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Because its obviously true that it wasnt built in a day

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Rome wasn't built in a day. how true that quote really is! Brendan is building us up to challenge and I think he's the perfect man for the job! How do you like those apples

Ack17

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Sad but in todays date it is prefered to be perchased rather than built.

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Rome wasn't built in a day.

There you go, it's reappeared. Hurrah.

JFT 96

JP

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17 May 2013 16:45:24
Alderweireld is great! Alderweireld is shocking! Alderweireld is slow! Lovern is rubbish! Lovern is really strong and great in the air! Erikson is a football god! Erikson is so overrated!

Have the people making these blanket, extreme stance comments actually seen these players play more than once or twice? Or have you seen 10 minutes of one performance and had a peek on youtube?

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Lovren is considered in Croatia a failure lyon fans are actively trying to force him out of the club i've watch him play 10 times this season 3 of those he got sent off and the other 7 he was terrible

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I still maintain Alderweireld would be a great signing, based off the ESPN Eridivisie round up I watch every week.

RedKopite

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Person is used as a replacement to a derogatory term or remark being used. Such like plonker becomes person and no one reads any offensive language and the site remains healthy for all ages.

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Lovren is hated so much by Lyon fans that the fans once fixed a Barcelona poll which asked which CB would be the best signing for barcelona, Lyon fans all voted for Lovren above many top class CB's to get rid of him! So funny!

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17 May 2013 16:40:08
What does 'you are a person' or 'you person' mean? It's something I had never heard before I came here. I mean I figure it's insulting but I'm not sure how.

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I assume profanitites are swapped for person

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It is used to replace 'stronger' words which would otherwise get your post blocked.

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It's when an swear word is edited, since swearing isn't allowed. The same happens for newspapers and a certain tv channel

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Samsam,

There is profanity checker on this site that replaces abusive words with the word person. so the phrase you are an utter person becomes you are an utter person

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You can't use obscene words on here unless your an ed, so I think person is the harshest critisism we are allowed to use mate.

Crowman.

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17 May 2013 16:35:58
16 May 2013 12:33:04

@Samsam

Samed Yesil has got a hell of a future in the game. The only striker in our accademy, who I can see bettering him is Sinclair. Seyi Ojo may move into a more central forward role one day even, but hes 15 years old. For the next 3 years, Yesil will be more than adequate back up, and may even cement a spot in the side. You don't get nicknamed 'Gerd' for no reason.

My strikers next year would be Sturridge, Borini, Yesil and Sinclair (with Suarez able to cover in the centre if needed). I really think Suarez would be great as a wide forward though, where he plays for Uruguay. He is not clinical enough to be our focal point on a regular basis, and he is virtually at his peak (unlike the 4 above who will all improve). Whatever way you look at it, 30 goals in nearly 200 shots is not good enough.
If i was to compare those 4 strikers to similar players, I would say Sturridge is very much like a young Henry. Good pace, power, both feet and adequate in the air. Borini is very much like Ole Gunner Soljskaer in the sense that he has no outstanding attributes, but grabs goals, even from the bench (he proved that at Roma and just needs to settle here). Yesil is more unique, but has similar traits to Fowler, the ball just sticks to his feet, and he'll just put in the net by whatever means necessary. As for Sinclair, he is so similar to a young Owen, its scary. We can't afford to burn this one out though! He has pace to burn and just glides past people without any real skill needed, a drop of the shoulder does it. His finishing is clinical. If we want a target man, we've even got Ngoo in the reserves. Thats a diverse range of forwards who should be our 4/5 first choice strikers for the next 5-10 years. I simply cannot see them all failing to make the grade. Sturridge is virtually there already.

Unfortunately, I cannot see Morgan or Pacheco making it with us. I really don't want us to sign a striker this year, as we have some serious talent in the forward areas, and we will simply push them out the door. One wide forward such as Tello/Ince would be more than enough to take us into next season. All we need is to re-structure the defence and add some steel to the midfield. Coutinho, Texeira, Shelvey and Suso are more than enough for attacking midfielder options, even if Shelvey is sold.

I suppose to conclude (and this wasn't all aimed at you Samsam, just the part regarding Yesil) we have some serious talent coming through our ranks, and we should not ruin their chances by signing higher wage/less potential players. The odd experienced signing here and there is more than sufficient.

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17 May 2013 16:50:46
Haha, cheers anyway Ed002. don't listen to the stick you get on here sometimes. You are one of the best Editors on the site :) {Ed002's Note - Only "one of the best"?}

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17 May 2013 16:59:07
Your very optimistic with what your expecting of these young players, how many (should have been world class) youngsters have completely failed to make the step up (i. e David Bentley, Bebe from united, Neil Mellor. I could go on and on) and as for us expecting to fight for champions league next year with the players you have just mentioned is virtually impossible, look at villa a lot of quality young players but had to struggle to stay up, suso, teixera, Yesil and sinclair should be loaned out to see if they can cut it in a similar sense to wilshere and sturridge were at bolton, and your raving about these youngsters and yeah we have a right to but quality at a club like Liverpool is massively more important than potential

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17 May 2013 17:02:37
So no place in your team for sterling then?

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You know the Youngsters are not developed enough to come through a premiership season unscathed.

So if BR is correct and Top 4 is a given then we need another Striker who's battle hardened.

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The ideal situation is only having to call on young players out of choice, not out of neccessity.
Sterling and Suso will be around the first team again next season but they can't be in the starting 11 like this season.
No coincidence that our 2nd half of the season has been better than the first when we started playing more experienced players.

Jay

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"Top 4 is a given then we need another Striker who's battle hardened. "
What in gods name are you on about, when you look at the whole team you seriously think its ANOTHER striker needed?? Sorry but you have no idea what your talking about.

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17 May 2013 15:52:10
Heard that we will be signing Eriksson, Papadoppoulus and McCarthy (reading GK)

Eriksson agent in London sorting the deal out this week, Papa will be subject to an extensive medical due to knee issues but should be ok.

McCarthy to replace Reina who's off to Barce for £8mil.

Just what I've heard

Growler

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Why would Eriksen's agent be in London and not Liverpool?

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Because Ian Ayre is in London and not Liverpool?

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17 May 2013 15:42:51
don't kid yourself into thinking Lovren's good, frankly thank god the echo confirmed we aren't signing him in my opinion

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He is quite good though

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No, no he really isn't papadopoulous on the other hand I hope there's some truth to that rumour

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Stop making up rubbish and believing it matt. Lovren is a great defender

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17 May 2013 10:30:10
Eds what do you seriously think we need to get firstly back into the top 4 then challenge for title because 30 points from the top is disgusting being a red supporter just isn't good enough? {Ed023's Note - Well we were 5th in Rafa's first season and 37pts off top, he made a couple of decent signings that summer and we closed the gap to 9pts the next season so to answer your question, BR needs to have another Jan and make decent signings and we need to start well, of course}

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I think some people need a reality check. Ferguson just retired as one of the most successful managers ever. It took him 6 years to win the league and three years in the Manchester United fans were calling for him to be sacked. Something Liverpool fans used to dig at them for not supporting their manager. His first six seasons are listed below, and he spent money every year:

11th 56pts
2nd 81pts
11th 51pts
13th 48pts
6th 59pts
2nd 78pts

We do not have the money to be a Chelski or Citeh and frankly I don't would not want to be, if you demand instant success go be a plastic fan and support someone else, otherwise support the manager, team and players.

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Very good point ed here's hoping

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When fergie took over United it was a different Era

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U made a great point.

And why should we go so long way back. Take klopp for a better eg. Dortmand and klopq have been rated so high and rightly so.
But does any one ever cares to know that klopp took control of dortmand in year 2008. So same 5-6 year just like old perple nose, he has been building thata
team.

As a fan we have every right to care abt the club but to ask for sacking of br is stupid.

1. Had it been goind wrong. Like in hodgsons case. the way he was turning us into a long ball team, or kennys al english theory. But br has not bad been bad on field. Its just the poor squad. (nearly half season without 2nd striker) that cost us 4th place.

2. Is that what would we achive sacking br? Another meri go round for ne manager. New squad new staff new life. Back to square one. And do u understand the amount of money wasted? And un stability? Just imagin had it been br who would have given job after rafa? The money hodgson and kenny wastad on their staff and players. Around 150+ miln.

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Get over the so-called money Kenny wasted

Kenny's net spend was less than 40M

Remember Kenny sold Torres 50M

The lad from portugal Raul M. for 13M

Did Kenny also sell Yossi? 5M?

The money wasted in Kenny's era was paying off huge contracts paid to players Rafa Signed!

Rodgers has spent 60M with little to show for it!

Its not Kennys fault BR does not like Carroll, BR did not like downing or henderson either be he plays them cause they are better than what he (BR) signed!

Have to look at it in a balanced way.

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Who did BR sign to replace downing but isn't apparently good enough?

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17 May 2013 13:37:01
Eds do you know if Liverpool or any other prem team have the chance of qualifying for Europe via fair play? Also any update on the players we are considering and what sort of budget we have, I have heard around 25 mil plus any money from player sales.

Cheers
Sye {Ed002's Note - Liverpool will not be playing in Europe next season.}

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Well Liverpool is technically in Europe.

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17 May 2013 14:09:54
How Can we be linked with the likes of Tom Ince, Callum Mcmanaman and James Mcarthy, when Brendan is saying we are going to challenge for champs league?
Is there any news on the likes of Zouma, Eriksen and Tello a few possible good signings Eds? {Ed023's Note - Don't believe all who we are linked too. Just let the manager and his staff do their job and ignore the media doing their jobs}

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17 May 2013 13:44:14
if we get a couple of bad results at the start of the season all you will hear is could brendan not ask carra to come back for another season. this will be on this page by early september so eds get ready for the moaning and the posters who can't look forward only backward. let carra enjoy his retirement he had his time I say. Tommy Irish Red

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Carragher is contracted to tv. You cannot just walk out of highly paid jobs like that. Nor will he have been training regularly and be anywhere close to match fitness/tactically up to date, unlikely Scholes who stayed training with United as part of his injury rehab. Carragher will not be coming back.

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Don't know if "Bring back Carra" is what we are going to hear over the "Sack Rodgers" sentiments if results are slow to get off the ground next year.

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17 May 2013 13:34:45
i feel that we need to stregnthen our banter page. Some of us are just not trying, while others try 110%.

unlike the football team maybe we should go for the more experienced banterer. this is something that needs addressing, hopefully when the transfare window opens.

Marcus

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For Gods Sake Marcus! All the experienced banterers are a) too expensive, b) won't wan't to banter for a team not in Europe at least and c) will be snatched up first by Spurs and Everton who offer them so much more all round banter ability! I mean who wouldn't rather banter with the BOTY and YBOTY Gary Haystack rather than the shamed, violent and possibly racist Louis Albert Suarez Day?

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I agree it should be addressed. A question is also if we should gamble on banterers that are younger with potential to be great one day though. I hear they're cheap.

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We also have yet to find a replacement for Chris In Tamworth who can't carry the baton forever.
derryred

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17 May 2013 13:14:55
Bit dissapointed m post regarding our young strikers didn't get through yesterday Eds. It took virtually 20 of my 30 minutes of lunch break to write it out, and i've checked every single page and my log in history. It wasn't abusive in any way shape of form. I notice their was a banter post blackout for about 2 hours yesterday, so I'd like to assume my post was just lost in the corwd, and it was nothing personal. It's the first time its happened to me, so I'm not too miffed, and it hasn't put me off posting.

I would just like to point out regarding Stefan De Vrij, he is a 21 years old club captain who HAD one year left on his contract. He has signed a one year extension. That is not the contract you'd expect to see if he was staying. I beleive that is either a clause in his contract that the club has activated, or he's agreed to extend by a year so the club get a better fee. Probably completely irrelevant any way as Liverpools interest is elsewhere if reports are to be beleived.

{Ed002's Note - I can't help as I wasn't here. Mention a name or two and I will try and find it.}

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17 May 2013 16:31:39
YNWAdam {Ed002's Note - It'll be up in a minute.}

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17 May 2013 16:47:11
Never mind Ed! Looked two posts down and it was there. It just came through a day late :) thanks anyway.

YNWAdam

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17 May 2013 13:10:47
WOW
In the last few days we have been linked with Kurt Zouma, Tiago Illori and kyriakos papadopoulos.

Imagine if we end the summer window signing kyriakos papadopoulos, kurt Zouma and Alex Sandro (the porto LB)
that itself is one of the best summer windows we have had in over ten years. The defence will be sorted for years to come.
Just add a decent CM (Capoue/McCarthy) in it to replace Shelvey and a winger like tello and I say we should organize a party.

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Can you honestly say that you have seen enough of those defenders to say that they are good players?

If you were flicking through the channels I doubt you would watch St Etienne, or Sporting play

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This is getting a bit boring now honestly.
Every decent name mentioned gets replied by "HAVE U SEEN THEM PLAY"

NO I admit I have not seen either Illori or Zouma play but I have seen the greek and Sandro play a good few times and they are quite good. And on Zouma there is always a lot of info on scouting reports on different sites and stuff and then you don't get rated highly by almost all top clubs in the world not being good enough.

Can you say the same thing about Williams and Pearce though?
thought not

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17 May 2013 12:23:51
@Samsam,
Samed Yesil has got a hell of a future in the game. The only striker in our accademy, who I can see bettering him is Sinclair. Seyi Ojo may move into a more central forward role one day even, but he's 15 years old. For the next 3 years, Yesil will be more than adequate back up, and may even cement a spot in the side. You don't get nicknamed 'Gerd' for no reason.

My strikers next year would be Sturridge, Borini, Yesil and Sinclair (with Suarez able to cover in the centre if needed). I really think Suarez would be great as a wide forward though, where he plays for Uruguay. He is not clinical enough to be our focal point on a regular basis, and he is virtually at his peak (unlike the 4 above who will all improve). Whatever way you look at it, 30 goals in nearly 200 shots is not good enough.
If I was to compare those 4 strikers to similar players, I would say Sturridge is very much like a young Henry. Good pace, power, both feet and adequate in the air. Borini is very much like Ole Gunner Soljskaer in the sense that he has no outstanding attributes, but grabs goals, even from the bench (he proved that at Roma and just needs to settle here). Yesil is more unique, but has similar traits to Fowler, the ball just sticks to his feet, and he'll just put in the net by whatever means necessary. As for Sinclair, he is so similar to a young Owen, its scary. We can't afford to burn this one out though! He has pace to burn and just glides past people without any real skill needed, a drop of the shoulder does it. His finishing is clinical. If we want a target man, we've even got Ngoo in the reserves. that's a diverse range of forwards who should be our 4/5 first choice strikers for the next 5-10 years. I simply cannot see them all failing to make the grade. Sturridge is virtually there already.

Unfortunately, I cannot see Morgan or Pacheco making it with us. I really don't want us to sign a striker this year, as we have some serious talent in the forward areas, and we will simply push them out the door. One wide forward such as Tello/Ince would be more than enough to take us into next season. All we need is to re-structure the defence and add some steel to the midfield. Coutinho, Texeira, Shelvey and Suso are more than enough for attacking midfielder options, even if Shelvey is sold.

I suppose to conclude (and this wasn't all aimed at you Samsam, just the part regarding Yesil) we have some serious talent coming through our ranks, and we should not ruin their chances by signing higher wage/less potential players. The odd experienced signing here and there is more than sufficient.

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Very interesting Adam (I assume you were talking to me in relation to my question to Ed001 yesterday?). Out of interest as you haven't mentioned him, what do you think about Ngoo?

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I'd like to see suarez a bit wider as well. Think his play on the endline and tight around the box are exceptional and would suit the position nicely.

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17 May 2013 16:57:04
It was indeed Sam :) I must say, I haven't seen any of Ngoo's games for Hearts during his loan. But I watch every accademy game I can and he is a very tall lad. Must be 6 and half feet. He has a great first touch and his posture is more similar to Crouch than Carroll. He can take the ball out of the air in a single touch. His advantage over Crouch is that he has raw power and can actually move with the ball. Although he's not fast, he is mobile. His finishing could be worked on, although he is adequate with both feet and his hold up play is excellent. Hope this helps :)

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The nearest player I can think of with a similar style to Ngoo is Paolo Wanchope if that helps.

Would you agree with that, Adam YNWA?

BJH YNWA

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17 May 2013 12:23:17
Purely an ideal world scenario:
Ins:
Inan
Eriksen
Alex McCarty
Papadopoulos
ILori (could play for England apparently)
Tello
Alderweireld
Outs:
I don't care who leaves just as long as the squad improves

Thanks,
The Doc.

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If Papadopoulos comes in than I think Alderweireld would not be needed and should be replaced with a LB (Sandro from Porto ideal).

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17 May 2013 12:07:32
So let the rumours of david villa been seeing in John lennon airport begin I hope its not true 12million for a 30yr old not good business I watch a lot of barca and since his leg break a couple of years ago he isn't the same player don't get me wrong he was quality but there's better out there at the moment and to be honest I think we are ok in that department because I think fabio Borini will be a top player add him to strudge and chewy we will be ok JON96

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If I was a top footballer, I think I would just spend my summer hiring lookalikes, give each one an entourage and just pay them to fly to all the major cities in Europe on deadline day. That way we'd have credible photos of someone like Villa in Liverpool, Manchester, London, Paris, Munich, Dortmund, Rome, Turin, Madrid, Barcelona, Malaga etc all on the same day!

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17 May 2013 12:06:18
Does anybody (Fans, Macca, Eds) know who are the realistic targets LFC have in mind.

Actually only where there is "LFC interest", i'm not asking if they will sign. Reasonable Interest only.

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17 May 2013 11:35:49
Brendon Rogers has managed to deliver us a testimonial match for the last game of the season what a load of cr$p – defo must do better…

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Really. ?

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Excuse my ignorance. what are you talking about?

carragher is retiring, who cares what a knob like you thinks.

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Lets be honest the last 4 months have been one big testimonial for Carragher

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U sir are a plonker. Do you not realise that there is a rebuilding job going on? We could challenge for the top four next season if Brendan gets the right players. If January is anything to go by we could see some exciting talent arrive. Get behind the manager!

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17 May 2013 13:29:50
You are a person.

There are only two teams in the whole league with anthing to play for this weekend (Spurs and Arsenal). Arguably Chelsea and Fulham (Chelsea who want guaranteed 3rd spot and Fulham becasue Martin Yol has never finished in the bottom half in his career apparently).

Brendan has delivered us more points, more goals, a higher league position, a better goal difference, better more attractive football, lower wages, younger team, more stability and we haven't fallen apart towards the end ofthe season like we did under Kenny.

I believe Dalglish would've improved us just as much this year, but we would be playing hoof ball to Carroll everytime the going got tough, and the squad age would still be high. Rodgers is the right man so just bugger off to the Man City page if you want instant success. in fact, even their money only got them a runners up medal!

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You're such a nice person!

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At this point, I would like to point out to the others that the OP is the same apse whole who spouted abuse during the Hillsborough anniversary and Anne Williams passing away. Ed's consider banning this tool.

The real AG

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I am not he OP but you the Real AG should be banned for the continued use of insults to those who do not share your opinion

Grow up - everyone does not think the same!

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Actually I do agree with The real AG on this particular matter
ND

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17 May 2013 11:32:52
Eds. great site in your opionon who do u think will sign in summer or what targets are serious potential players for our great club also when will this more likely happen ynwa red dave

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Why on earth do people constantly ask the Eds these same questions?! Read the posts. Search online. Do some research. STOP BEING SO FRICKIN LAZY! It's a rumour site not a "I can't be bothered to look so I'll ask the Eds a question" site!

Rant over.

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17 May 2013 11:25:48
Hey Eds, reports in France are saying we're tracking Kurt Zouma? It looks like we're after at least 2 defenders with a younger one and a more experienced one likely to come in and I'd take Zouma over Ilori any day. However I'm not getting my hopes up, just wondering if there's any truth? I think if we get Alderweireld and Zouma we'll have a great basis for our back line next season.

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17 May 2013 11:12:31
Hi Ed's

Was just wondering will wigan still be playing in europe next year even though they have been relegated, also can Liverpool still get in via fair play {Ed002's Note - Yes, and No.}

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17 May 2013 10:35:48
Hi eds. is it true that thiago of barca is up for sale? Any interest?

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17 May 2013 10:20:19
Just a quick question for an ed, will Brazil be aware of how well Coutinho is playing? If he carrys on playing this well next season I hope he gets a call up to the World Cup squad. {Ed002's Note - Brazil are aware of how players are doing.}

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Considerring Oscar plays the same position and is regularly in the Brazil team now, I would imagine a full season doing what he's been doing in the last 10 games or so would see him make that world cup squad

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I don't think they are really bothered about international football in Brazil.

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17 May 2013 10:52:35
Infuriates me that everyone is writing off the Eriksen deal just because of Dortmund's interest. They don't look too good of a prospect at the moment; Gotze's leaving to their fierce rivals with a very good chance Lewandowski is too and I've read in the last day or so that both Reus and Hummels are linked with City and Barca respectively. we need to get our very own Dane in his ear! Never underestimate the influence international teammates can have! We've had Spanish gems through Pepe over the years afterall. One season out of the Champions League couldn't hurt the boy!

In Brendan We Trust

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To be honest I think Liverpool are just buying the drinks with most big name players! They tend to say thank you and leave with someone else

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He is too expensive and overated IMO.

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They are still a very enticing club for players! Reus and hummels will not leave yet. Dortmund have much more chance of signing him than we do, however they are also lookong at de bruyne who is a similair player.

13reds

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Dont look too good at the moment? Hummels, Reus and Subotic both look like they aren't going anywhere despite some interest in them, Ledowanski is probably being replaced by Dzeko (with cash left over) and if Goetze is replaced by Erikson, they have two quality players replacing their two quality outgoing players plus a very good manager and a fair amount of cash to build even more depth. Plus prize money for being CL finalists. Looks like a pretty good place to be to me.

And I think we had Spanish 'gems' though a Spanish Manager, not through Pepe. In fact, the only Spanish player worth of being called a 'gem' since Pepe arrived was Arbeloa who wasnt in the Spanish squad yet - Torres was already a well known top class player

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17 May 2013 09:59:53
Fabregas may be leaving Barca. Man United reported to be sniffing at £20m!
Surely £25m bid is worth it. SG successor if I've ever seen one!

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Still on the hunt for the Gerrard replacement?

Why?

We have the real thing why do we need an immitation?

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He is a brilliant player but he would not sign for us and is injury prone.
Scouse_Pride

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At that age SG had an awful injury record. Still adjusting to his body.

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Fabregas is nothing like the type of player Gerrard is

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No he didnt. If you're still adjusting to your body at 26, you won't adjust to your body. Although I'm not aware that he's had any bad injuries for a while now

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17 May 2013 09:16:44
My source has confirmed that Liverpool target Tiago Ilori is interested in a move to Liverpool. I Expect that deal to go through.

Also Kyriakos Papadopoulos is a done deal and there was no MRI scan niether.

Cheers Guys,

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No transfers take place without medicals

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Papadopoulos is not going to happen. No way will we pay over 15 million for a defender.

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TheAgent,

Unless you nail a couple of your claims like Maisy did back in the day with the new contract signing by Suarez and the Nuri Sahin deal when everyone thought it was dead in the water then please don't be surprised if you're treated with a cool air of cynicism and disbelief. I hope you're right though, both of them would be good signings.

JFT 96

JP

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My source has confirmed that Liverpool transfer banter poster 'TheAgent' is full of s*** - more to follow

ben

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Just to make you aware medicals don't need mri scans to complete transfers CAT scans Xrays are necessary but if he did have a metal pin inserted into any part of him to treat any injury then a MAGNETNIC resonance image would have torn any observed metal pin/plate straight out of his flesh. so on a technicality The Agent is actually right.
The Doc

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Great news ben, can't wait on the update

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after hours of medicals it has been confirmed that 'TheAgent' is full of she*p and that the Liverpool banter page has pulled out and hopefully the last we from 'TheAgent'

ben

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Where do we get these posters from? The agent? What a total personic name. You don't know anything, anything at all. You have no knowledge, no information, no credibility. Just stop posting please, it's wasting web space.

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Hi Doc,

Just a bit of information: the metal pin/plate/whatever would have to be ferrous to be dangerous in an MRI scanner.

The Village person

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17 May 2013 09:01:59
How would everyone feel about Rafa becoming Everton Manager?

Just a thought!

Red Lee

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Don't care!

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Grate he is rubbish imagine him with no money how bad he would be

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Wouldn't be bothered. Considering Rafa has fallen out with a couple of the biggest clubs in Europe before now over not being given enough money he should have fun at Everton.
Some managers can work well on a shoe-string budget, some can't. Rafa is one of those managers (like Mourinho) who has to have a lot of money to spend or an expensive squad.
He's not a right fit for Everton. Unless there's huge investment.

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Like Valencia.

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He joined Chelski, so i'm guessing he will have no issue joining Everton!

He likes to have money to develop a squad - he won't get that or CL football at Everton so my guess he will go abroad maybe Real Madrid or maybe PSG. one of the big clubs in Europe.

NS

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There is a difference between abandoning your principals to work for the enemy, and doing it for an obscene amount of money. Anyway, I think he'll be the new Malaga boss

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For the person who put 'like valencia' trust me rafa spent plenty of money at the time at valencia!

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Would sully his memory for me. And the Mans done a great job at a club I detest

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17 May 2013 08:55:15
Think spurs have bought david villa? not a bad signing for a couple of year?

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Don't care. Go to the spurs page.

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He is 31 and 32 this year, 12M euros is a lot for a Striker who will be on high wages and has no re-sale value.

Spurs can have him!

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17 May 2013 07:58:18
Hi Eds. Not LFC related but any ideas why Gus Poyet and his staff have been suspended at Brighton?

BaldyRed

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Maybe because of his constant moaning

Gus is a real pain in the botty!

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Well apparently, he's been suspended due to a breach of his contract. He told players at the club he might be leaving at the end of the season when he wasn't allowed to. Hence the suspension. Very odd situation if you ask me

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Very odd situation RedSpud.

I think Everton will be in for him - he is a character but a good manager.

NS

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It's not odd at all - he told the media in a post match interview that he was basically done with brighton and might be trying to leave. Misconduct, suspended following an investigation into what he was thinking and how it should be dealt with. Will probably come to nothing - he's a passionate guy who was absolutely distraught in the moment and blurted out some silly things

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Poet for Everton me thinks

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17 May 2013 07:04:04
Liverpool Have Opened the gates, They may sell Suarez, But for a HEFTY fee. The starting price will be $70 Mil. Yes it is high, but Suarez was the BEST player in Prem.

If not met, No sale.

Hairy Yank.
Hope he stays! YNWA.
Red and Proud!

Need a solid CB for Jamie, and Amazing CM to Replace the other Legend!

Buy the 2 from Ajax, in Erik, and Alder. Add few more pieces, Seriously I want to push for the League, but in honesty we are going to push for top 4 and we would be happy in 4th. ? Time to get back up there COME ON YOU REDS!

Time to Play the Liverpool Way.

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Interesting!

A few months ago I would have said Suarez is going nowhere for at least another season but if a massive bid comes in then I can see the club cashing in.

I know FSG like PR and selling our best player does say that we are more interested in the money than trying to build a world class squad but who knows.

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No replacing the other Legend

And no need too either!

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17 May 2013 07:01:27
Rafa Benitez

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Would like to see Rafa appointed Mgr. in the summer

With the King appointed Sports Director

And BR going to Everton or Wigan or anywhere

Maybe he likes the Sun could be an opening or two in Spain

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Brendan rodgers!

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You enjoy your Rafa lead Liverpool origional poster with your dvds of between 04-09 and watching your replays whilst we all enjoy the current and future Liverpool getting stronger and winning things under BRENDAN RODGERS. Making new history!

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Would like to see Rafa appointed Mgr. in the summer

With the King appointed Sports Director

And BR going to Everton or Wigan or anywhere

Maybe he likes the Sun could be an opening or two in Spain

you are the worst kind on kaka on earth. benitez is a horrible manager. please please post. his opinion gets posted even though its a rubbish bs opinion!

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Your an LFC "FAN" who likes ripping up LFC legends very good no need for rivals to do it so!

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17 May 2013 02:32:39
ed. is renovation of anfield going to begin from next season? {Ed002's Note - I suspect it might start in the summer of 2014.}

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Is the plan just for the Main Stand and Anfield Road? And has anyone seen the proposed designs?

Weyland Yutani {Ed002's Note - Not yet.}

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I have designs for the original proposed new build but not for the renovation of anfield. It would have been impressive.

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17 May 2013 02:51:48
We should be looking at signing Alderweireld and De Vrij as replacement defenders. I. Addition youth should be Ilori and Digne. This could equal I.

Region of 32-36 million.
We would need to offload both Coates and Skrtle for this to happen in my opinion.
I'd be satisfied is this was the business we did on the defensive side of our squad.

I also see the likes of Carroll, Spearing, Flanagan, Pacheco and Downing leaving.
I hope this money is partly used to bing in someone of the calibure of Eriksen. Young skillful attacking midfielder and also a wideman.

Anyone's guess on who the midfielders will be, bit the defensive ones should be the above.

Jonesred

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Alderweireld is shocking!

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Alderweireld is shocking?

Don't make me laugh. Bet you have never watched him play, at ajax he was more highly rated than vertongen, I guess you think vertongen is horrible?

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Would you quit commenting he is shocking! We obviously disagree!

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17 May 2013 01:51:57
Kurt zouma has been asked about and the eds haven't really said anything about Liverpool and more about city, united and arsenal having interest but his agent recently came out and mentioned Liverpool. I find it hard to believe that he would mention us unless we had been in contact with his party or shown some interest so just wondering if any of the eds know of any movement in relation to zouma and the level of Liverpool's interest
Cheers {Ed023's Note - It isn't impossible for us to be interested but perhaps his agent knows we are on the market for defenders and is trying to sell his client?}

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"I find it hard to believe that he would mention us unless we had been in contact with his party or shown some interest"

Really? This happens all the time, agents manipulating the truth to drive greater competition for their player etc.

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17 May 2013 01:40:35
Absolutely hate how shelvey is treated by some people. He's 20 years old give him a break. The people saying sell him for anything around 4 million are just stupid. Yes he's been wasteful this season but if a 20 year old academy graduate was doing what he was there would be non stop praising of him. His form has dipped since his dubious red but to sell a player with insane potential who could play for the next 15 years for the reasons and prices said by some posters on here is just ridiculous

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If you wanna keep finishing mid table every season you keep hold of players like shelvey, if you wanna compete you dont. simple.

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If u don't perform you can go.

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He will be ok some where else

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What do you mean "insane potential"?

Should we be getting him help and sectioned for his own safety?

Sorry, I don't see why we should be giving a 20 year old who earns more in a week than most do in a year "a break".
He's an average player getting a millionaire's wage. He doesn't need a break.

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Agreed completely, some 'fans' need to start getting behind our boys!

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That said he's pretty arrogant for a 20 year old from what I've read and seen. He struts around the pitch making little effort, hence his often late lunges and customary yellow card every game. The reason Henderson seems so liked is his constant effort, if Jonjo put in half of this, I'd give him respect I give Jordan. I don't think he's deserving of it however and he needs to really buckle down if he's to suceed.

If he's old enough to own a big house, a fancy car and enjoy his off the field lifestyle then he's not immune to criticism and his pretty average form has quite understandably let to some fans happy for him to be sold. Personally a loan to a new EPL club, would be my preference.

Papa G

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Shelvey is not quite good enough. He may get better but he would not be in my first 11 now. I wonder if a loan would be a good move.

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Shelvey is a decent player, but unfortunately fopr a club looking at a top 4 challenge we need better players. Its above his level.

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Can people rememeber what Gerrard was like at a similar age. Great on occassions, rash, injury prone with his growth problems and sometimes disappearing in games? With experience he turned into a great player. Give Shelvey a chance he is only 20 for heavans sak! As to the arrogance comment. bring it on! That is what you need in a player in his position.

Iggypop

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I like JonJo

But he's no Gerrard but then again who is?

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If you wanna keep finishing mid table every season you keep hold of players like shelvey, if you wanna compete you dont. simple.
Wise words mate, I said the same about Carragher 10 years ago and we'd never win a title with players like him in the team.

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It must be great to be right all the time?

We did win quite a few trophies with Carra in the team!

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17 May 2013 00:04:02
I think these are our preferred targets for the summer going by reports.
CB: Kurt Zouma
CB RB: Dejan Lovren
AM: Eriksen
RW LW ST: Tello

The top two issued come and get me pleas today plus chances of Eriksen seem to be increasing but I still see it as unlikely. Likewise I feel Tello won't leave Barca but if he did I'd imagine Liverpool would be in pole position.

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16 May 2013 23:53:58
Dejan lovren is acting it on twitter! For any you that haven't checked go look at his page now. Kurt Zouma and Alderwerield too. LFC seem to be the flavour of the month for some reason. Even Kuyt came out and said that Strootman and De Vji should do whatever they can to get a move to Liverpool.

Long may it continue! On the other hand why do players and agents always name drop Liverpool bragging about interest.

Thanks.

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LFC have lost a centre back.
LFC have defensive problems.

Why are defenders agents naming LFC as being interested?

Who knows, maybe it's a smokescreen.

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So other clubs can sign them?
F. eks Mobido Diakite's agent talked a lot of BS that we wanted him even we never had a real intrest.

Now Sunderland, Westbromish, Napoli and Lazio want him. People underestimate how big a club we still are and that other teams just steal our targets

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