Liverpool Banter Archive June 17 2016

17 Jun 2016 21:37:53
Hello all! I've been following this site for years and it's always been a usual/ reliable source of information. I'd just like to have an update on our possible and most likely purchases this summer.

Please and thank you.

King H.

{Ed002's Note - And you can't be bothered to RTFPs? You sound like a glifnard.}

18 Jun 2016 15:55:41
More of a dirante than a glifnard, I would say 002.

18 Jun 2016 16:12:08
A retromingent one at that. where would we be without your lyrical stylings Ed002?

17 Jun 2016 21:23:37
Liverpool are interested in signing right-back Gabriel Mercado, according to River Plate president Rodolfo D’Onofriohas.

Know it's Twitter but anything guys? Never heard of him.

17 Jun 2016 23:49:40
A 29 year old who most likely wouldn't be eligible for a permit. Don't think he is a very realistic option.

17 Jun 2016 18:01:38
With all these talks going on over a potential takeover, one name that was thrown about in 2010 was Kenny Huang, was he ever close to securing the club? Is he an interested party at this time? Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - God I hope so.}

17 Jun 2016 22:45:26
😄 be nice ed002.

17 Jun 2016 23:11:34
It's been covered several times. Try searching.

17 Jun 2016 23:35:19
You make me feel a fool, ed 002!

17 Jun 2016 20:24:33
Evening Eds/ Reds

Wondered opinions on a couple of things
One being matip I've not seen him live I've seen videos of him looks good but that's youtube. Is he ready? Will he start?
Also with some peoples want for a winger maybe continue to use Origi on the wing and not spend crazy money we have Sturridge, Firmino, Ings, Lallana and don't forget coutinho we really are stacke up front.

17 Jun 2016 20:59:08
I wouldn't mind a front three of sturridge right origi and coutinho left, firmino just behind. Very attacking I know, a lot of discipline needed from the two in midfield. But games where we are expected to have a lot of the ball, but struggle to break them down, which is a lot for us, I think it'll work.

18 Jun 2016 00:14:31
Apparently he is being 3.5m sign in fee (matip) and 100k per week so he better ready.

17 Jun 2016 22:05:23
Sturbridge wants to play centrally. He is poor on the flanks.

17 Jun 2016 18:37:56
Just a quick shoutout to ed001, you're a legend mate love your work.
Please tell me that you're going to be making your podcasts with Benny Baller for the upcoming season!
Used to cure the boredom of my one hour drive to work each week.
Have a great weekend Eds and reds.

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate, we have been saying we will do another one soon for ages. It is just really difficult finding the time during the window. Plus Benji is out in France earning extra money providing massages with happy endings to desperate fans......}

17 Jun 2016 20:24:36
I heard he's been held captive by a few Irish fan's.

17 Jun 2016 15:55:38
Hey ed001 was wondering if you could give your opinion on John Arne Riise as a player. Both on and off the field. I am from Norway and Riise is considered as a huge profile, but also had his flaws, especially considering him always being in the news for doing all these silly things. His mother was his agent and made sure her sons (both football players) always had their faces in the spotlight. All she cared for, seemingly, was publicity. Not sure how beneficial that was for him to be honest.

{Ed002's Note - Search engine please.}

17 Jun 2016 18:06:21
He gave away his European medal didn't he? Hear he is a golf fan too.

17 Jun 2016 20:29:56
Funny you should mention that Max cause I believe so to was Craig Bellamy.

17 Jun 2016 00:41:15
This one might seem weird but clubs employ scouts all over the world, spending a lot of money doing so on all sides of the game.

Would a club ever just monitor other clubs who have a proven track record of finding good players and just try and outbid them. Sounds ridiculous and don't say Tottenham with us other posters or ed2 will go mad haha

Just Southampton, Leicester, Dortmund etc are all getting very good players in, yet were spending ridiculous amounts giving them funding to buy what look like better players.

The top teams just have the money to let someone unearth kante and buy him the year after for 30 mil but we don't.

Leicester are after this lad mendy to replace kante, should we not just buy him and trust that they have done there due diligence. He looks good on paper playing some 4o odd games last year and they see fit to replace kante with jim.

Jota st Madrid. Kostic at Southampton, medina at Dortmund there mane replacement and they got weigl for 2 mil last year watch this lad take same path.

Oh and another one is what about double agents. Like offer the leicester scout 50 grand a player he tells us about that leister want.

I'm lacking sleep and bored but just thought it might be an innovative change for football lol.

17 Jun 2016 15:37:17
U forget all the bad signings these clubs make.
Any transfer is a risk regardless of who it is. Remember Inler? Me neither because he didn't play hardly at all and was loaned out, Leicester also signed a winger for big money that never played.

Southampton signed the jonny Depp lookalike for a large sum.

It's just the big clubs get bad signings highlighted more.

17 Jun 2016 17:33:28
Transfers are not exact sciences. Every one ia a risk whether big or small. Clubs with less money invest more in scouting while those with money just buy, buy, buy. We do neither. We don`t invest in scouting and we buy, buy, buy, mostly average players on the back of one or half a season`s performances (Carroll, Adam, Downing, Bogdan, the list is pathetically endless) . Now, we are trying to do the same thing with Mane, a man who went 18 games in the first half of last season w/ o a single goal and scored 11 in the last 15 games of the season for 30m. This is why we are where we are. LC found Kante after extensive scouting of him at his former clubs, his attitude, durability and of course, his quality for over 2-3 years. I watched a French documentary on his rise to stardom and it will blow your mind. Do you think the Bayern`s, City`s and Chelsea`s of the world would waste their time doing the leg work that LC did to get Kante? This is where we need to improve.

17 Jun 2016 12:00:57
PLease ed 001 Was still a bit young back then but can you tell me the overall reaction when we signed Michael Thomas and your opinion on him as a player while with us, and if you have time on mark walters as well as I loved walters as a player back then
Thank you sir.

{Ed001's Note - I can only vaguely remember it as mixed, due to him scoring that goal against us in the last seconds. He was a good player, never stopped running, but lacked real quality on the ball. Great attitude and nice guy, but it was difficult to look past him taking the title on the final day!

Mark Walters? Great skill but no idea how or when to use it, so would often just offer nothing to the game. When he did manage to turn it on, he was unplayable, but it only happened once every 5 or 6 years that he did.}

17 Jun 2016 13:08:53
Cheers ed much appreciated.

17 Jun 2016 13:14:04
Kind of forgave him when he scored that belter in the cup final v Sunderland.

17 Jun 2016 11:15:05
Would leaving the EU have any implications on Liverpool? Would work permits be harder to get?

{Ed002's Note - It is not actually clear what would happen. There would certainly not be any overnight change but the eventual position would likely be a need for work permits and residence permits. In terms of existing EU citizens already working in the UK, there is no plan but I would think an amnesty would be the likely decision followed by a quota system of some type. A good question but no firm answer I am afraid.}

17 Jun 2016 11:57:33
Is it fair to say they would if they became a requirement for all non-british players, to have played 30% of the internationals for their country over the last two years?
Don't really understand the legislations with regards to permits.
Question please Ed. I know in the 90's there was a limit on "foreign" players, did they have issues with work permits on them days or was it literally you could only register a number of foreign players?

{Ed002's Note - The Work Permit rules are rather more complex than that. The limits on players within various countries is to do with non-EU nationals. Different countries have different rules.}

17 Jun 2016 13:37:35
As a consequence of leaving, Liverpool Football Club would cease to exist and the price of French Cheese would rocket through the roof as a consequence of strict trade tariffs.

Oh yeah, the Eurovision song contest (which includes our European neighbours - Israel) would fizzle away at the tick of a ballot vote; so for all the above I urge you all to vote remain.

17 Jun 2016 10:46:28
Out of curiosity what was your opinion on Torres when he was with us? Did you love him as much as we all did? And how would you compare him with Suarez, ability wise?

Thanks and hope all have a great weekend.

{Ed002's Note - Ed001 is very much tied up so I will give this a shot. There is no doubt Torres was a very good player who clearly did a lot of good for Liverpool - they got the very best out of him and I understand that he very much enjoyed his time at the club. It is always very difficult to compare one player to another but Suarez was and still is a very good footballer. As for the other question, I suspect that Ed001 would be a little shy about listing all of the men he has loved over the years - but I am sure he always has respect for them afterwards.}

17 Jun 2016 11:39:27
Thanks for the reply ed002, much appreciated.

17 Jun 2016 12:54:59
This is my first time reading Ed02's opinions and views on specific players. Short, but a great read.

Been reading about posts about ex players, to be honest, most of em I didn't even know they were once a Liverpool player. I started to follow the team around 2008 I think. Strangely, I followed this team just because back then I hated Manchester United. And I hated them just because that time almost all of my mates and family members love them. I hate them still though. ;)

Have a great weekend guys and eds.

{Ed002's Note - Enjoy.}

17 Jun 2016 17:38:33
Ability wise suarez is a better player, but in terms of enjoyment to watch i just loved torres. His alarming loss of form was distressing for me even when he went to chelsea.

Prior to his antics suarez was one of my favorites but he never endeared himself to me in same way as torres did.

17 Jun 2016 10:54:59
Rumours have us linked with Lucas Moura again any truth behind this?

17 Jun 2016 09:47:05
Hi Eds,

Anything new on ..........

{Ed002's Note - This is the Liverpool page.}

17 Jun 2016 08:29:51
Morning Eds/ Reds

I was wondering with sturridge at the euros and with the possibility of progressing far how will this impact on the pre season for the player? I mean i remember reading klopp likes a strong pre-season to get the player ready for the season ahead, but are players returning from tournaments given more time to recover and how will this impact on his (and others) pre-season. I wondered if i could get your thoughts thanks!

{Ed002's Note - Not as much as anyone playing in the Olympics, but it is a summer of tournaments so pre-season for many clubs will be impacted.}

17 Jun 2016 10:15:46
He'll be home soon enough don't worry 😁.

17 Jun 2016 11:09:55
Hey eds quick question along the same lines, there are players right now playing in the euros and the copa America who also intend to play in the Olympics just for e. g zlatan who I have heard wants to play in the Olympics as one over 23's not sure if its true, but for these players will they be expected to come straight back into the team when the Olympics end or will they be given a longer leave period?

{Ed002's Note - Yes there are a number who will play in both. Some players have been left out of Copa America squads in order to play in the Olympics (e.g. Neymar, Oscar, Firmino) but others will play in both. Again, a number of players from the Euros could play in the Olympics as well. There is one very high profile player whose club are arguing with his Nationals side about this as I write.}