Liverpool Banter Archive February 17 2013
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17 Feb 2013 22:07:01
Our exceptional performance albeit against a weakened team aside, (you can only beat what's in front of you), what I was most impressed with today was attitude.
Firstly, for the first time in a while we fought and won nearly every second loose ball, and in my opinion Lucas was great at doing this today and it was rare we lost out on a race to the ball. Good!
Secondly, for every goal today all the lads celebrated together, not just 4 of the lads huddling but around 7/8 it was a great show of togetherness which is important in any side IMO.
These are just some of the smaller things I picked out as I find it difficult to comment on due to the nature of the game regarding the line ups, but you are only able to beat what's in front of you. I think, still we are not clinical enough with 30 odd shots and only 3 goals from open play is not too good, but asking as we create enough chances. I was impressed with everybody today, even Reina who was called upon in the last 5 minutes producing a brilliant save after having nothing to do for most of the game which can be difficult for keepers.
Coutinho looks like he will do well, but may struggle against the likes of the more physical Ivanovic etc right backs. Suarez, Stevie and Sturridge were brilliant and Lucas had a good solid game while Downing got some very good balls in to the box. Johnson and Enrique were good going forward and Carra and Agger didn't have much to do. I still think we need some changes in our defensive department as we stand off our man far to much when someone is running at our centre backs when we should be closing down the space, I still find myself scared when the someone with pace is running at our back line.
Bit long, but oh well :p HullRED
What impressed me was that everything was done in one or two touches, enrique's goal sums up what i'm talking about when I say we have to move the ball quicker.
derryred
Easy against kite
We'll see if we have the same attitude against, Stoke, West Brom and West Ham next season or will they scare us of the park again.
Ozone
Ozone you really think that?
Red Branch
17 Feb 2013 21:55:12
See one or two are slating Borini, come on he's just young lad trying to get up to pace in premier league, it doesn't always happen straight away even Ronaldo got pelters in his first year and whilst I'm not saying he's going to get anywhere near to his amazing standard, he deserves a bit of time to get up to speed particular when you consider he's had two massive injuries this year he deserves our total support.
Andy The Red
He tries too hard so I wish him all the best
Ronaldo has ridiculous amounts of potential such as pace quick feet skill. Borini offers nothing. He runs around a lot. He looks lost in England
17 Feb 2013 21:52:14
All I'm going to say is, regardless of whether I support Rodgers or not, or what I think of our current players, or our owners, I am not alone in saying, today made me a very happy LFC supporter :-)
Super
17 Feb 2013 23:31:27
Laughing hard at the bitter blue on a disagree rampage! Haha! Well and truly living up to the reputation!
17 Feb 2013 21:27:36
Am I the only one who feels a tad for Henderson? The lad has been nothing short of brilliant in the last few matches and created quite a few chances after coming on for a short period of time. Hope Rodgers doesn't look past time because I genuinely believe Henderson has a bright future at this club.
CodeRed
I heard he had a slight knock and Rodgers would only start him if he was 100%. If anything that shows his growing importance, as BR didn't want to risk him with Thursday in mind :)
17 Feb 2013 21:31:14
Just as an aside to the Ed,
How many changes to a first XI constitutes a contravention of the PL rules about fielding a weakened side?
Is there a definitive number, or is it more subjective?
The Juicer {Ed001's Note - I thought that rule was scrapped?}
Not that I'm complaining like!
I'll take that three points in return for handing over the League Cup to them next week. Fair do's.
The Juicer
17 Feb 2013 21:30:21
Anyone else think think that that's the last time we'll see borini in a Liverpool shirt. He's been unlucky with injuries, but prior to that just doesn't look good enough, is slightly built and in my view will never make the grade.
Based on what 8/9 games? Wow of everyone judged by that most players would be crap
Londonred
Nah he s a decent backup striker. may get better in timeif he builds himself upa bit
tom1975
Jeee wizzz
Red Branch
17 Feb 2013 21:14:23
a great day today, 5-0. coutinho looks class, sturridge a steel. if we had these players all season, top 4 would have being a shoe in. no matter, to next season, we need a few players, br will sort it out, playing good football now though at last.
cl football is a huge step, man city, chelsea out in first round, arsenal and man united won't go much further. all the talk from one set of fans about cl football, let's state facts-
-last 10 years, Liverpool, man united and
chelsea won a cl each.
-fergie 30 years, two ec
fc porto last 30 years two ec.
-arsenal never won ec
-man city never won ec
back to league, we all know we have under performed lately, but we have made huge progress in the last few months. I want to see a good league finish, players playing for their future. I also want to see br show a mean side by tossing some under performing players out of anfield regardless of their status. we are in good shape now but to see how far we have to go just watch barca in cl, best team for a generation, can't see them beaten in cl this season.
B O H
While I agree Liverpool do play some good football at times I think you need to improve your squad dramatically with really quality! and before you have a go I'm merely responding to your comparisons, you talk about Barcelona but you are a million miles off them and competing for champions league when you're not even in the top 4! you say if you had sturridge and coutinho all season you would have made top 4? this is coutinhos first start no? Sturridge has done well since coming in but apart from your absolute world class striker I think you have a, maybe slightly above average squad! Just look at Utd, Chelsea, City, Arsenal and even spurs squads and not many Liverpool players would get a start in any of those in my opinion! The reality is that Liverpool were a great side but they're not now! The standards have slipped at anfield more and more over the years due in no small part to the billionaires coming into the game! the fans expectations are still high but you have to be realistic here You need a drastic overhaul if you're going to compete at the very top!
Jamal
Jamal that's a very smug post.
I think you support Manutd it's the smugness that gives you away.
kidmillions
I actually am a united fan! Didn't think it was relevant! I am also a football fan, wasn't trying to be smug at all just stating my opinion! We're 12 points clear, competing for the Champions league and fa cup and I still think we need a few players. In my opinion there are 4 or 5 teams better than us in Europe and I was just trying to make the point that if Liverpool want to get to that level, they have a long way to go if you consider they are 26 points off in the league.
Jamal
17 Feb 2013 21:11:07
Sturridge has certainly been impressive since his switch from chelsea. I honestly didn't realize how much ability the lad has got. we need to keep him fit, if we're to climb up the table. buzzing that coutinho got his first goal too, hopefully it will help the lad to settle in quicker.
Quality player, and still young enough to improve.
Yes and if the lad continues like this we'll be selling him back to chelsea for 50 mil.
17 Feb 2013 21:09:03
Anyone know of a website that I can watch the full match from today? I can only find highlights. Any help is appreciated
Ya might have to suffer like me mate and just go with the old fashioned Match of the day highlights, 11. 00 pm on tv I think
Don't worry, if Mark Lawrenson is on the panel we can always just hit the mute button.
Kelly Red
Check out LFC. tv at midnight.
Original poster here. Found a great site with full match replays. gettyfooty. com
Bbc one now 23:10
hibsylfc
17 Feb 2013 20:55:09
Hi ed's is there any truth in the rumours that, certain members of fsg want to sell Liverpool fc. {Ed002's Note - I am not opening that up as a subject ast this time.}
Just Asking as I think What we need as a club is some stability. don't want to see another messy takeover.
Haha Eds, is there EVER any good time to open up that subject on here
Kelly Red
17 Feb 2013 20:54:10
Laursen got Rodgered
Oops I meant
Laudrup got Rodgered
Don't worry, it wasn't funny the first time, either.
Mrpjd
17 Feb 2013 20:53:45
This is getting ridiculous 1 minute everyone is slating every player, manager and staff member-including those not even involved, I have read posts blaming borini for our troubles when he was injured, what next the kitman?
Then the next minute everyone is calling him 'God' and suggesting we will win the league in a few years. After a series of games where we thrash teams and then get a unexpected defeat I won't get ahead of myself this time.
But don't get me wrong, I do love the club and i'm delighted that we won but its a weakend swansea team with one eye on the carling cup so don't get too optimistic or you'll be setting yourself up for disappointment based on past experiences.
On the plus side great performance by the lads, and what a great goal from coutinho, I'm not getting ahead of myself but if he carries on like that we could have a player on our hands.
P. S. Sorry all, been away on a course all weekend so haven't been able to post.
Lil Red
ITs utter madness
Last week Agger was bad
Today he was magnificant
Right up to the match today BR was Satan now he's god.
Such polarity its manic
I'll still stick to what I belive BR won't make it at LFC
Teddys Picnic
17 Feb 2013 20:47:52
much better today, the team looked determined to win, which is what we all wanted! that and BR telling it like it is, one down one to go! credit where it''s due well done lads, best iv'e seen Downing play, let's see how long it lasts?
17 Feb 2013 20:46:21
If we win our last 11 games I think we have a chance at top 4.
Be realistic, it ain't going to happen.
How realistic is that?
What would be worse if we won our last 11 and missed out by a goal.
17 Feb 2013 20:43:59
Just wanted to say.
- We've turned a corner
- Gunning for top 4 now
- Lads finally gelling
- Champs League spot is ours
- Never doubted Brendan
- Gerrard not past it (and takes a great pen)
- Love tika-taka
- Coutinho not lightweight
- Possession football pays dividends
. ahem.
;0)
Dr. S. Atire.
Great - I can't wait for the next bad result
Heheh.
Precisely.
Dr S. Atire.
17 Feb 2013 20:41:41
Well, I certainly enjoyed that match. Travelling home is always a more enjoyable experience with a win and plenty of goals to celebrate. No doubt much will be made of Swansea's team selection, but if they chose to rotate at Anfield, then they only have themselves to blame, and, as Michael Laudrup suggested, they could have had themselves to blame for losing even more heavily. The most relevant fact from Liverpool's point of view is that they played extremely well, with plenty of desire, tempo, and attacking threat. The movement, passing, and pressing in the final third were all very good, with Luis Suarez clearly benefitting from the support of the increasingly impressive Daniel Sturridge, the lively Coutinho, the industrious Downing, and the elegance and positioning of Stevie and Lucas. In addition, both of the reds' full backs were able to find room to overlap effectively and seemed more than grateful for the opportunity to do so. In fact, it would be difficult to find a negative, Fabio Borini's injury aside, but perhaps one niggle is that it is incredibly difficult to choose a man of the match after a performance like that.
Red Owl
17 Feb 2013 20:41:05
Borini dislocated his shoulder. This guy clearly made of glass. Strangely, I feel more comfortable when he's not an option.
17 Feb 2013 20:57:10
another aquilani in the making. no more games this seaosn.
and come summer. he would feel home sick. and would want to go. and we will have to bear the loss.
What loss will he be?
17 Feb 2013 21:51:15
Give the guy a chance. He has been played out of position all season, played in a team lacking confidence, had numerous injuries so no run of games. I for one have not given up on him just yet.
Unlike Aquilani Borini actually want's to play for us and works hard. Aquilini was a lazy.
Dan.
17 Feb 2013 20:37:09
Nice to get a win today, albeit against Swansea's b-team. Borini went from useless to injured to useless to injured again. What is it with Italians? (Meaning Aquilani and Borini. )
Ed's I know you don't like swearing but can I call this guy an person!
Papa G
Plus Dossena don't forget!
It wasn't person, in case you thought I was being tame. I'd call him a James Blunt if I could get away with it.
Papa G
Stop kicking Borini! he's down already.
17 Feb 2013 20:37:02
I think we need some physicality/leadership in the summer both in defence and in midfield.
Carra is retiring - we need someone that will not shirk a tackle and will organise the backline at the same time.
In midfield we need a driving force much like Stevie used to be.
I really don't know where you'd find these players though, Carra and Gerrard are one of a kind.
Fantastic win today nonetheless, give 4th a go until it's mathematically impossible.
17 Feb 2013 20:32:29
Just like to congratulate the team today no matter how poor the opposition played our performance was excellent. Sturridge for me has been a revelation since he arrived. His movement and pace is the perfect foil for Suarez to do his magic. It is clear that without Sturridge in the side Suarez can be stifled to some degree. With great movement from the SAS it allows are midfield to push on as the opposition defences get pulled out of position. This sort of football is just great to watch & I would like to see a couple of astute signings in the summer. I still think we need a bit of steel at the back and in midfield. Just one more thing I posted on here when we signed Coutinio & told everyone what a fantastic player he is. Well even though there were a lot of doubters on here I stand by my words. On & upwards for next season keep the faith.
ELMO96
17 Feb 2013 20:22:52
Fantastic today, I'm well happy, the Christmas signing are fitting in nicely, well done Liverpool and Rodgers.
I know everyone else seems to be happy with our January transfers compared to the summer signings.
I've seen a few people slating the players that joined in the summer which is understandable, but guys, I honestly think we should give Joe Allen a break, he's only 22 (I know, I know, Courtinho is 20), but let's support him and not slate him all the time, 15 million was way too much but that's not his fault. He started off the season quite well and I'm sure he'll eventually come good in the next couple of seasons.
I'll admit to being one of the fans who always moaned about Lucas being awful in his first few seasons. I like to think I've learned my lesson. let's support these young lads and not get p***ed off with them when they have a few bad games,,
Kelly Red
Kelly red
i was one of the few that didn't write lucas off
just becase you were wrong about lucas doesntmean you are about allen
allen will be a Liverpool standard player in time. iexpect him to improve and play more next season
the problemis he wasnt what was needed when he was signed
our winter signings were needed last summer and joe and fabio have suffered because of it. good long term prospects, both of them but neither ready to step in and strenghten the starting 11
tom1975
and good game for coutinho. but let's not get carried away eh
lets play himin games against inferior opposition for now, where he can see more of the ball and any mistakes he makes are less likely to be punished
tom1975
Well obviously in an ideal world you will sort out the present and then build for the future, however when FSG came along to our club we really were a long way off our goals so we are now building for the future.
derryred
I agree with you tom1975. Although I think you must possess a crystal ball if you knew Lucas was going to turn out well after his first couple of seasons.
Kelly Red
You don't winplayer ofthe year in brazil without being something special
you don't become brazil you 20captain without being something special
wasnt that hard to see he was just a boy when he arrived in a new land
allen, imnot too sure of. I don't doubt he will improve but he will never be like xavi. he will be a run of the mill squad player. nothing too special
hendo england you 21 captain says a lot about the lad. always had faith in him also
borini. dunno has attributes but don't think he is ever going to nail down the no 9 spot
coutinho. flashes of magic mixed with inconsistency, could be a very good am in a coupe of years time,,,,. has the talent, dependshow much he really wants it. new aimar maybe hopefully anyway
tom1975
17 Feb 2013 20:22:06
I think we are going to have some amount of money in the summer with all probable out goings:
Reina 15m
Skrtel 15m
Carra
Spearing
Carroll 17m or Ben arfa swap which would probably suit all
Coates 5m
Assaidi 5m
There are also some possible outs:
Suarez 50-60m
Enrique 8m
Downing 7m
Borini 7m
Allen 8m
I think we should be targeting a GK LB CB CDM winger and striker replacing:
Reina skrtel carra downing Coates Carroll spearing Allen Assaidi and borini
I can believe that you want the players that won todays game out
So youwant to chage half the first team?
i would expect 4/5 in, 2/3 out
17m for Carroll LOL are you actually for real? or a swap for Ben Arfa? You are delusional!
Jamal
Doubt it would suit Ben arfa!!
17 Feb 2013 19:56:17
To Island Nation (Becoming an excuse merchant for BR won't help. )
Im not, its when a family member needs help and support that's what you do help and support. no matter how much you want rogers out its not going to happen any time soon, so pull your head in and support the club.
RED BRANCH
17 Feb 2013 19:51:42
Didn't see the game. But how was countinho. Would love to know.
Also did boring feature and if so how did he play I have seen him a few times and I don't think his control and technical ability is good at all.
Lll
Why not go to the official Liverpool site first? There's an article on Coutinho, and you'll see the bad news about Fabio. Let's hope for a speedy recovery.
YNWA
Irish Red
17 Feb 2013 19:49:41
good result and performance today but let's not get carried away. One thing for sure is that we play much better with sturridge in the side. Good addition to the squad.
And I would like to comment that we have now scored more goals in the league than Manchester City. Considering we have had 1 striker (suarez) for the majority of the season, I think that is pretty decent. And with the addition of sturridge and coutinho it will only get better.
For me at the moment, my main concern is the defense. Enrique is not good enough. Yea he played ok today and scored, but defensively he really just turns off like the 2nd zenit goal. Same could be said with johnson.
In my opinion we need a powerful central midfielder. Someone like a michael essien of old. I'm not to sure who, but we need someone with a big physical presence to toughen us up. And with jamie retiring it will be a big loss, so a cental defender is an area we need to improve on as well. And finally a winger. Downings performances have improved but still not influential enough. If we can find the right player, sturridge coutinho, suarez and. could be lethal.
cheers
Danny
17 Feb 2013 19:38:47
Liverpool are set to sell Andy Carroll, Jay Spearing, Dani Pacheco, Oussama Assaildi, Sebastian Coates and Danny Wilson while their is a possibility of Martin Skrtel, Stewart Downing, Fabio Borini and Pepe Riena also leaving the club. Ashley Williams and Stefan Jovetic are Rodgers two top targets.
Neither of those players are what we require especially not Williams!
17 Feb 2013 19:33:12
The amount of hypocracy on this page to day is unbearable, but I don't want to bring everyone down. We were unplayable today! The win against a top half team had been well overdue but finally we've broken that duck!
RedSpud
It was swanseas reseves who if were a team would not even be in the prem what everyone needs to realise it was there be team let's wait till thursday see how we play then
mike
Even if it was swansea reserves we were great today. But I couldn't agree with you more, thursdays a big test!
RedSpud
17 Feb 2013 19:31:21
Nice to see a complete performance today and to see five get on the score sheet. I think we can be too open at 433 and think 4231 suits our players better because our defence has been our biggest weakness this year so a little extra protection is certainly needed.
BR needs time hopefully this win can help us kick on and find some consistency but this win will not count for nothing if we don't build on it. But let's be optimistic and enjoy the win.
Bulmer
I think everyone gets to into formations. Rodgers seems to like a fluid front line with a lot of movement eg coutinho starts on the left but is more often than not in the 10 spot. Suarez is everywhere!
Just making the point we get caught out on the counter attack by being a little loose in the centre of the park when Johnson and Enrique are too far ahead when an attack breaks down it leaves us too open.
Just hope we can follow this up and can I say Sturridge looks electric at the minute.
Bulmer
17 Feb 2013 19:26:28
i m not getting carried away today
we have battered inferior sides at homeand failed to build on it in the following games
and let's face it swansea minus half their first 11 with one eye on the cup are very much an inferior side
we thrashed norwich and fulham at homeand failed to sustain a decent run after it
it seems tome whenever teams cometo anfield and put it up to us we bottle it
if they come and lie down we trounce them
nothing new there then
lets see if we can beat wigan away and then spurs at home to see if we are back on the right path or whether this result is just another false dawn
tom1975
17 Feb 2013 19:25:06
BRENDON IS GOD. knew we would find form and get back on to winning track. I must admit I've been slating the team but after todays performance I think in a couple of years it could be a league winning side especially if we keep our very own messi (suarez) and ronaldo (a certain sturridge)
onwards and upwards reds. follow the guru and we can't go wrong! watch this space.
YNWA
17 Feb 2013 19:15:46
The winter signings are class above the summer signings.
17 Feb 2013 19:05:59
For goodness sake - we were playing against Swansea reserves!
If we can't beat then with a decent score, we shouldn't be in the PL.
We played ok. we should always expect to beat them. Nothing special!
So don't all get carried away, it's a game we won adequately.
Let's see how we perform the next match. at the moment
there is no consistency -one step forward then two steps back.
So let's not all have a party just because we won a match we should win anyway.
M
I am no phsycologist but I can tell from that post that you are a 'glass half empty' kind of guy.
Myk
Too many false dawns this season to consider a glass being half full
tom1975
Myk. I know. No such word. It's psychologist!
17 Feb 2013 19:04:25
Going to be controversial here. Was at the game and come away thinking
1. Suarez and Gerrard are unplayable
2. Downing worked hard and closed down constantly and deserves credit for today.
3. New kid showed some great touches, needs to get in the gym a bit but seemed happy with some of the buffering coming in.
4. Going to be controversial here. 2 goals had to come from penalties and we must have had over 30 shots today. We're still not clinical enough with a 10% conversion rate.
5. Loved the game, play was great!
When the game is so open then strikers will want to go for goal - notice # of shots from outside the box
Yeah, it was the same last season, a lot of chances but can't turn them into enough goals, if we did we would be up there with the top teams! Until we change that then we will continue to be a midtable team! We have created the most chances in the premiership
What would you rather have 4 shots or thirty the more we shoot the better chance of scoring
17 Feb 2013 19:02:50
what I hate after a good result is when some people come on and say (where is the rodgers out brigade now ) does my head in mick dublin
Where's the Rogers out Brigade now?
MR EM
But where are they? Can't support us when we lose then don't support us when we win
The fact is we have been pretty awful this season. Everyone gets on the bandwagon after a win at swansea.
We were at home and we should always think we will win there however we don't the faith has almost been lost.
I hate people who say don't support us. Grow up mate. Some of us just want to win and haven't got the patience of others on here. We need more of a killer instinct that's all we lack.
I agree mick
its personic wumming at its finest
one winagainst half a swansea side
lets beat wigan spurs and chelsea then start celebrating
tom1975
To the 4th post down - my faith has never been and never will be lost
Puzzled
Puzzled
i bet your faith suffered a severe dent against west brom though
i know mine did
tom1975
If people on here are going to rip the team apart for not beating arsenal or man city and playing west brom off the pitch before losing then why don't we celebrate when they are winning. You cannot be at one extreme after a defeat and then insult people who are at another after a win.
derryred
Tom1975 - it was cat-kicking time not faith-losing time
Puzzled
17 Feb 2013 19:01:25
Dont hear much of the brendan put today? Cowards supporters when were winning, we are inconsistent but at least we are seing entertaining football and eventually we hope to see the rewards but this brendan rodgers is a guy many people in high places have great hopes for. For me signs are only positive we might not be better off than last season but our performaces have been on a diff league. Bring on next season!
Were the signs positive on monday night when we gave up the chance of challengingtop four against west brom
win win appalling defeat, appalling defeatthrash a team, appalling defeat
no consistency to this team. until there is there is no progress
11 games left. winning 7-8 of these would be progress but unlikely
tom1975
17 Feb 2013 19:00:52
Daniel Sturridge one word. Phenominal
Never new he was so techinically brilliant, Chelsea spld one of the best strikers in the country for 12 million bad mistake but great for us
He was good today but his finishing was pretty poor.
17 Feb 2013 18:51:32
Official opta stats for the game: Liverpool 35 shots to swansea's 3. That takes Liverpools total to 500 shots this season. the first team to hit 500 in all of the top 5 european leagues. we obviously need some bloody luck, as were creating more chances than bayern, juventus, barcelona, real madrid, the mancs, psg, ajax and man city. food for thought to the doubters.
Stokesy
Shots and chances are two different things. Barcelona wouldn't take half those shots because they would have little chance of scoring, they would bring the ball out and CREATE some chances before taking a shot
Bobbinred
17 Feb 2013 18:48:26
scintillating performance from the lads today fantastic.
17 Feb 2013 18:45:37
Last 3 home games 5-0, 0-2, 5-0 - the difference? Sturridge. If he can stay fit and play most league games till the end of the season watch us fly.
We shall see
beat zenit wigan and spurs and I ll be way more positive
Sturridge won't be available for Zenit so can't judge his impact then. If he performs like he has so far then we should beat Wigan and at least get a draw against Spurs.
17 Feb 2013 18:45:12
Eds who do you think will leave and who could replace them? Please and thanks {Ed002's Note - Ask nearer the summer - or read the posts which might be much easier.}
17 Feb 2013 18:40:34
Hi Ed great result for today game and great work on this site keep it up.
Just one question now Brioni is out for the season do you think that assaidi well get a chance to play now?? {Ed002's Note - I would not be so sure he is out for the season just yet. I have no feeling for whether Assaidi will play or not.}
17 Feb 2013 18:33:32
Great result today from the lads!. we really ain't that far behind the top teams, we just lack a bit of consistency and experience. I'm hugely confident that next season we will be a lot closer to the top teams. it's clear reina and skertel will be departing so if we get the right players in to replace those two key positions, it will make a huge difference. Finally I'd like to wish fabio borini a speedy recovery, the lady has been so unlucky with injuries.
Yes best wishes to borini but swansea had a lot of players missing
17 Feb 2013 18:28:44
Haven't really seen too much of Sturridge until he joined LFC but how good is his footwork, ball going from left to right foot in tight situations, the odd flick and pace to go with it. On another day would've probably had a hatrick and at least a pen. very impressed!
dmedly
17 Feb 2013 18:25:24
That was the performance we needed against WBA and Zenit. Ill take nothing away from BR and the boys though. It was the best we've played all season regardless the opposition. DBol
That was against Not-Swansea.
Calm down dears. It was only a mickey mouse team.
17 Feb 2013 18:17:26
Great performance all round! Coutinho looks a good buy, fitted in seemlessly, skill in abundance, good goal and reads the game well for a 20 year old. And the deft pass he played for Sturridge was world class. And yes, Suarez was unplayable. YNWA
17 Feb 2013 18:13:07
Liverpoöooooooooooooooool. liverpoooooooooooooool.
Monn ye boyaa!
Still fired up, whos next#
Big Al
Zenits.
Billy
17 Feb 2013 18:11:18
Where are the rodgers out brigade today?
5-0 against a sansea side with half their first teammissing and the other halfnot wanting to get injured for their first ever cup final
hardly reason to boast too much. we bottled it against west brom. we had a chance toreally stay in touch with spurs and bottled it
lets see us hammer zenit wigan and then spurs at home
tom1975
17 Feb 2013 18:05:05
Anyone see the Liverpool vs swansea shots on goal stats?
Wasnt it 40-8?
It says 26-2 on sly sports but it was defiantly closer to 40 mate
17 Feb 2013 18:04:29
I admit I posted as many "Rodgers out" posts as anyone.
I don't regret them and I stick to my opinion because it is based on our first 2 thirds of a season.
But, today's performance was a lot better, more direct, more purposeful. They were looking to do something with the ball, not shift responsibility to the man 5 yards behind them.
That's what I want to see more of. Not passing for the sake of it, but looking to use the ball purposefully.
The credit for today's performance goes to Rodgers in my opinion in the same way the criticism was for him in previous performances. So well done Brendan, don't let the intensity drop!
If we keep this up for the rest of the season, regardless of results, he will probably have me and his critics turned.
Well done lads, please don't let it be a false dawn.
Oh so today's game wasnt like virtually every other game thsi season? We dominated from start to finish, just this game we put away a lot of our chances
Fair enough for admitting that mate but tbh there ain't much difference between that performance and our others except we was actually finding the back of the net! For example I recon if Gerrard had scored against west brom I recon it would have been the same
London red
You don't really get this football game thing do you.
KUMBER
The difference is sturridge and threat up front. last 2 games lost without him.
Kumber spot on. Though thick and thin I say.
Billy
U are trully the worst type of fan. I think it is clear to most level-headed fans the direction brendan is taking us and the improvement has been there to see from the beginning. All he needs is time and patience from us fans.
Not saying he will definately get us back to our glory days, but calling for his head after every poor result (even when the performance warrants more) isn't any way to support this team.
oseans
Oseans
asking questions of themanager when things aren't going well is only natural
esp when we threw awaythe chance to challenge fortop four against west brom
tom1975
17 Feb 2013 17:57:53
At last were on MOD 1st! ;0)
kidmillions
Check again mate, we're on last : (
Don't be so sure last Monday nights football might be on.
KUMBER
Sky 429 rules pal
And if you can't wait till then, sly 401 at 10pm. I just wish 429 (the only reason for paying for sports in my opinion!) could show the game tonight!
Red till I die
17 Feb 2013 17:55:23
It's really noticeable. If anyone posts anything positive.
The disagrees come in right away? It's as though their going through the posts, seeing if it's any way positive and ticking disagree. WUMS BEGONE + + + + +!
kidmillions
17 Feb 2013 17:51:05
Now that borini is out for the season, what team do you think we will field vs zenit.
1 striker option. but we need lots of goals.
Stokesy
If Suarez takes his chances we'll get goals. But that's a big if. I'd like to see Sterling start again, he looks more of a goal threat to me than Suso and Shelvey.
Red Ollie
Thinkin saurez supported by downing, and sterling on either wing, with either gerrard or henderson supporting through the middle.
Getting johnson and enrique further forward is essential. when our wing backs play well, the rest of the team seem to follow.
Glen Johnson at left back and Enrique pushed forward could work.
kidmillions
17 Feb 2013 17:47:49
Rodgers. You summer signings was beyond shocking. However by the looks of things coutinho and sturridge are going to be world class
Fans and persons like you are what's shocking
RD
Some fans are right some are wrong but more often the ones who are right are right. ynwa
Allen was brilliant in the first two months then dropped off. So if coutinho and sturridge lose form will they suddenly be shocking signings?
17 Feb 2013 17:45:12
Can I be the first to say after that performance rogers needs shooting what a poor display from our beloved reds we have turned into a joke can't even finish joking aside great game today let's hope we can build on it
17 Feb 2013 17:42:36
very well done fabulous and fantastic more of that please.
I thought coutinho was really good and I want to admit that sturridge has been a fantastic signing who I thought was not going to be good.
Just once again Anfield is very quiet what happened to our twelfth man that we are so famous for?
One last thing about those that keep criticising the owners, I have been reading a myriad of posts about that and it is very childish and got no basis.
They have supported all of our managers very well in the transfer market and if Messi and co. do not want to come and play for us that is not their fault. If you ran your own business how much money would you keep forking out without seeing results, I doubt you would fork out much. So stop the whining and support the team that is all we can do.
AS for Suarez if he really does want to leave at the end of the season and does not want to be here well goodbye, after all This is Anfield!! If it is just rumours you are welcome tostay and keep up the scoring.
hisbylfc
I agree with most of your post mate but you must of had the TV turned down as Anfield was rocking.
Oh and we must keep Suarez at all costs. He's the calibre of player we need more of at the club.
Crowman
Wheres our twelfth man? well judging by the negativity posted on here, he doesn't exist
Actually Crowman I was watching the match on an italian channel (the only one I could find) and all I could hear were little bits of the sound, mostly the commentator.
hibsylfc
17 Feb 2013 17:41:42
Brendon needs to tell his team thursday to go all out for it. Attack Attack Attack, we might as well lose 4-0 as 2-0 and the only way to turn it around is to score early. we won't do that if we start to cautiously
fforestfach red
Nah I was expecting him to play 6 defenders and sit back.
They'll park the bus infront of the goal, hope we can breakthrough though. An away goal would be very bad news.
Myk
17 Feb 2013 17:41:17
Well great performance, enjoyed every minute of that. I know swansea played a weakened team but all we could do was beat who was in front of us and a 5-0 win brings us great momentum for when zenit come to anfield. Let's just enjoy this however and not get carried away as the top 4 is still a huge ask. Onwards and upwards.
derryred
17 Feb 2013 17:40:46
great result today but I feel we need more depth uptop to cover injuries and for all the competitions.
take utd for example. heres their attacking options:
4frwds
rvp, rooney, hernandez, welbeck
3 wing men:young, nani, valencia
compared to us:
suarez, sturridge, borini,
downing, sterling, assaidi
so i'd say we need at least another top striker and a quality wideman. DORSET RED
Add couthino to our wide men, but yh we need another striker for sure as another winger. we could do with cover in cdm as well as lb and also a proper attacking mid wouldn't hurt.
so all in all we need about 5 players
17 Feb 2013 17:39:29
Yes swansea wasn't full strength, but let's be honest. The way we controlled the game, swansea could not get the bull to michu if they wanted to and they had barely any crosses in the box, if any, for him to get his head on. Their defense got dismantled by suarez, sturridge, coutinho, and even glen johnson that ashley williams wouldn't have been able to help out a whole lot. Stop doubting the team and saying it would've been a completely different story if swansea were full strength because either way I see it, LFC out classed swansea tonight and it feels so good. I just hope borini is all right. and I have one other thing to say. oooooo philippe coutinhoooo! YNWA
NDred
17 Feb 2013 17:35:55
If anybody decides to sell Suarez we ( All LFC fans) should go to Anfield and demonstrate and show Luis that he is considered a member of the Liverpool football club family.
We have to show the man how much he means to the club and convince him to stay. Otherwise we will end up like Arsenal that let their good players go and the next season start rebuilding again.
This method will not take us anywhere. We have to try and keep our good players so that next season we start from where we leave it at this season. May be a couple of additions and of we go
Another Demonstration! Yippee?
GROW UP!
Lyndon
Erm no if suarez leaves it will be to get medals at the highest level possible something we Liverpool fans have to accept. besides its not like we won't get decent money for him.
If Suarez is sold it will be for a lot of money. And I mean alot. We are Liverpool, and when one player leaves another either steps up or arrives. LFC will always be bigger than any 1 player. If he stays he will be playing in the champs league with us when we qualify next season. Have faith
17 Feb 2013 17:34:54
A part of me wishes Carra had gotten a crack at the final penalty. Also feel badly for Borini- very, very unlucky kid, hopefully it's just a minor one.
17 Feb 2013 17:33:21
OMG! What a match. ! Gerrard, Coutinho, Enrique, Suarez and Sturridge.
The sad part is that maybe the shoulder of Fabio Borini is dislocated. : (
And he just returned from injury.
Get well soon
2011
17 Feb 2013 17:30:27
Well done lads and Brendan, much better, keep it up.
Marcus Aurelius (Rodgers sceptic)
That name is from spartacus
I'm well aware that there is a television
programme being aired at the moment, but I think it would be more accurate to say that that is the name of a Roman Emperor
Puzzled
No the gladiator
RB
No it was Russell Crowe pretending to be a Gladiator.
Casting pearls before swine?
Puzzled {Ed002's Note - Great band.}
Showing your age yet again ED002? We have discussed this problem of yours previously
Puzzled
17 Feb 2013 17:30:14
A question for the eds, or anybody who saw the game, did we play well, or did the result coincide with Swansea fielding a weakend team?
Jonny 71
We played very well there was a very good understanding between the players as to the postioning of the ball and themselves.
hibsylfc
I would say a combination of both. I'm simply amazed Henderson was not playing and didn't seem missed at all, until he came on for Coutinho. Class act by Gerrard to let Sturridge take the penalty. ra1969
Both. Swansea were awful, we were fantastic.
We played well, everyone gave it their all and everything clicked into place.
Plymouth Red.
You can only beat what is put in front of you. Rodgers selcted a very strong attack-minded team and we reaped the awards for it. Give our team some credit rather than just say it was a weakened opposition.
Both, but we did play very well.
Dan.
To be fair, we battered them, it was completely one - sided, whether that was down to laudrup`s selection is up for debate, but I doubt michu and williams would have made enough difference for us not to get the win anyway
wardie
A little bit of both. We played very well against a weak Swansea.
17 Feb 2013 17:16:57
And finally. the moaners will take a BREAK, at least.
RedBear.
And that RedBear is almost as good as the 3 points
Puzzled
17 Feb 2013 17:15:34
Always nice to see Liverpool winning and my experience tells me every time I buy anything Liverpool related we win. Ended up buying My Story by Bill Shankly. I don't mind if I end up bankrupt if it helps us win all games left this season. lol. On serious note loads of positive and self belief is back. Suarez is much better when given free role and Sturridge could have had 4-5 goals but its nature of game. Coutinho looked better as game progressed and overall we played well and hope this brings bit more positive comments and smiles. In End I hope Borini is ok as it would not be good idea for him to be on side line again and could harm his confidence.
Harry Oldbury
17 Feb 2013 17:15:33
where are you know you Liverpool bashers
In years gone by a 5-0 win against Swansea reserves would be considered a disgrace.
Liverpool basher? Not sure what one of those is. is it like a cleveland steamer?
17 Feb 2013 17:13:57
Today the formation was 4-2-3-1 this is the best formation to play in epl it gives us balance to attack and defend. Rodgers shouldn't change formation everytime he should stick with it. Before people start to overact stop it because it won't help anything our season is over just enjoy our win.
Yup that is the same formation I play with on fifa
17 Feb 2013 17:13:29
Wow absolutely magnificent haven't seen us play this good in years
Coutinho the brazilian scousinho he is qualityyyyy
We are Brendans Boys!
YWNA
Clearly you haven't been watching much this season
17 Feb 2013 17:13:21
Great win by the lads today against Swansea! Yes they made changes but you can only win the team that's put in front of you! Just wanna say if you can't support us when we lose then don't support us when we win! In Brendan we trust
Ack17
17 Feb 2013 17:10:39
Enrique, Sturridge, Suarez and Coutinho intricate passing in and around the box for the 3rd goal gives me great hope for the future. Tremendous GOAL! Lads.
We played well for the full 90 miutes but let's not get too carried away when we win and the same applies when we lose or draw.
I try to think just about todays game and I really enjoyed that today.
kidmillions
ps A great pity we can't field the same starting 11 against Zenit.
17 Feb 2013 17:10:29
. have just won the Premier league.
Let's have some feet on the ground thinking?
Mint
Oh behave moaning, there's nothing wrong with celebrating. Any wonder the team are low on confidence when they batter people you still won't cheer for them.
If you had a 5 year old son who scored his first goal would you tell him "calm down it was against a rubbish team"
Ashy
17 Feb 2013 17:26:57
Great performance by the boys. Really made us proud.
This just goes to show that with that level of performance on a more regular basis and we will be jumping the places. If we were consistent then we would be in to 4
MadRed32
17 Feb 2013 17:24:17
Dont get too up when we win, and don't get too down when we don't - good today, lots of positives. enjoy the rest of the weekend!
Terry Mac
Treat those two imposters (victory and defeat) the same? IF only (Geddit?)
Puzzled
17 Feb 2013 17:22:01
Great performance today, you can only beat what is in front of you! Its a season of if's and maybe's for me, lack of consistency is key but we ARE progressing. Players looking more confident is possession, and likes of Hendo, Downing and Enrique look revitalised. which has to be put down to the manager.
I'm happy to remain patient, I believe we are heading in the right direction. Sturridge is making a massive difference, great signing.
Gutted for Borini. out for the season. Before people have a go at him, just imagine how he feels. he's a young lad, desperate to do well for us, having zero luck! let's support him as much as we can, we'll wait to see the real him next season.
Nice to Coutinho getting involved. very tidy player, could be out Silva?
Good day all round!
Leedsredmatt
17 Feb 2013 17:21:20
Great result but gutted for Borini - the lad has been so unlucky with injuries and now his season is finished, I hope he can stay fit and have an extended run within the 1st team. We'll never know how good he could be if he's never fit enough to play in games week in week out - chin up Borini lad, get some fire in your belly for next season, YNWA.
SMc
17 Feb 2013 17:21:08
Laudrup made the changes today his choice & his responsibility, pleased for Brendan & the team & congratulations to coutinho made up he scored a few more challenges ahead but that is football as well as life, like always enjoying a Liverpool victory.
Paisley's genius
17 Feb 2013 16:58:35
I must admit, I was nervous before this match, but that performance conveys the brilliance that we have in the team. The key is keeping it week in week out, just like the other big guns do. Sturridge in his present form is the best English forward in the PL, Suarez once again tearing defenders to pieces, and Coutinho showing that ever present Brazilian flair (something he's managed to do seamlessly from Inter/Espanyol over to the PL which is a big task). None of us should even entertain the people who will say 'it was a weakened Swansea team', Simpson and Michu still wouldn't have been able to contain Liverpool today. On that form they could beat any team in the PL.
After a bad few games, we really needed that. I know a lot of us have our doubts and are a little p*ssed off, but for the moment let's just enjoy what a stunning display that was.
Fingers crossed for Borini and a swift recovery.
JFT 96
JP
Williams* not Simpson. My mistake. Too much viewing of The Simpsons.
JFT 96
JP
JP
Some of the movement and passing was excellent today, Enrique's goal an example, however Swansea simply didn't turn up today they were virtually non existent.
Today's game highlighted the fact that when teams allow us to play and don't press high up the pitch we can play, but when teams press and close quickly (as did WBA), we struggle.
I hate getting on players backs but Joe Allen will definitely have to alter his game if he wants to earn a regular first team place.
He came on today with 15 minutes or so to go and not once did any of his passes go forward. Given that Swansea had virtually given up, and weren't applying any real pressure in midfield I thought surely he would be able to turn on the ball and at least pass one or two balls forward, but no, he simply picks it up and passes either straight back from whence it came or sidewards - gee it sh#ts me.
He reminds me of Lucas, when he first arrived he did much the same thing, hopefully for the team, Allen can learn that passing forward isn't such a bad thing. but I won't hold my breath.
17 Feb 2013 16:58:06
Got to say Sturridge is looking more and more a bargain like getting a Rolls Royce from pound stretcher!
Coutinho looks like he could be the man for unlocking difficult defences quality finish
Bloody shame neither can play against Zenit
17 Feb 2013 16:57:57
this is another result which highlights and frustrates all Liverpool fans and the team. why can't we play like that evry week? I would love us to find that one thing. CONSISTENCY. great today though big push till the end of season now boys. redman matt
Couldn't agree more, although I would say I think a very large part of it (at least recently) is Sturridge. He's very good at hold up play and to be honest he is much better with the ball at his feet then I had expected.
Why not just enjoy it for now?
derryred
17 Feb 2013 16:54:57
The only upsetting thing about today was borini getting injured. I feel bad for the lad specially after coming back from injury he gets injured again I wish him the best and a speedy recovery. Other then that good performance from the boys.
AndyKopLiverpool
17 Feb 2013 16:54:05
Best performance of the season!
WelshBoyDave
Glad to hear that your computer didn't crash during the game!
Derek
17 Feb 2013 16:51:23
Everyone still moaning? whaaaaaaa like a load of babies. not scoring enough. didn't score 20 goals in the first half. should be embarrassed you so called supporters. bet this perfect performance has shut you up. Spoons
17 Feb 2013 16:49:47
BR won today against a depleted swansea (saving their tem for the final next week) and again he is the Messiah
Won't be long until he reverts back to form
The ighost of Mendes
I didn't actually see BR out there on the pitch, so not quite sure how he "won" today - it is up to the players to perform as well you know. Why can't you just accept this was a good performance and stop winging. The likes if you won't be happy until we get anew manger every 4 games.
17 Feb 2013 17:10:28
Now there's a result and a performance for us positive fans that are able to see the bigger picture.
(Regardless of the team that Laudrup put out, you can only beat what's in front of you. )
We now have 2 more league goals than we did in the whole of last season and 11 games left to add to that.
We have only conceded 3 more goals than Man Utd.
This says to me that in order to be closer to where we want to be, we need to score more goals, and with the addition of Sturridge and Coutinho this has now been addressed.
The margins are very fine lads, and there have been times this season where our football has been breathtaking.
As ever I will reserve my judgement until the end of the season. If we reach 60+ points (we got 52 last season) and/or finish no lower than 6th. that to me will be a significant enough improvement to show we are heading in the right direction.
Patience is a virtue.
Matt S - YNWA
Nice one mate.
kidmillions
17 Feb 2013 17:10:02
Yesterday a lot of fans were saying BR out. Also saying our players are rubbish. Well I wonder what comments we will hear today.
Like I posted the other day and I had the stig from a lot of you, The boys walked into the pitch and crashed the opponents.
YNWA VIVA LFC
alex 7777
Swansea had three normal starters
There isn't a bigger picture mate. Stop being ridiculous. The now is what matters
17 Feb 2013 17:07:29
Williams* not Simpson. Still got Simpson in my head from watching The Simpsons. Apologies for that schoolboy error.
JFT 96
JP
17 Feb 2013 17:07:28
Brilliant performance today! Sturridge and coutinho really add some much needed quality to that front line. When we get goals the confidence of the entire side shoots through the roof and it inspires the whole team to start playing. One or two more additions in the summer and I think we might have a good crack at 4th next sesaon.
I don't expect us to win on thursday as we'll be lacking in quality up front but I may be wrong.
Let's give it a real go in the prem now with some 'easy' games coming up. Not saying we'll get 4th but let's try and get as close as we can and set ourselves up for next year.
Of we can challenge for to 4 we can challenge to win it. United and city are just not that great - whatever hogwash old whiskey face says about united being a better side now than in 99
17 Feb 2013 17:07:07
great performance today well done hope we trash zenit on thursday [dresdon]
17 Feb 2013 17:06:04
1 goal. 2 assist. one penalty.
and still someone wants to sell suarez. at 50 mill.
he is the magic man. which we needs to reach our desitnation.
i don't understand. why people want to sell him.
no CL. you must pay the wage he needs. simple.
coz. he deserve.
17 Feb 2013 17:05:11
good first half, should have been up by more than 1 at the break. swansea were poor, but that aside, we looked good and threatning. shame sturridge is cup tied, coutinho looks like a good young talent. lots to like about today but keep it r
eal.
IRERED
We have had more shots on goal than most most if not all teams in europes top leagues.
but we all know that the only stat which counts is results.
17 Feb 2013 17:05:06
Whilst I'm on a rant. can I just point out to all you Muppets. we have scored 49 goals so far this season that's the fourth highest scoring team in the prem. one more than city in second. Spoons
How many have we conceeded
Are we the fourth highest conceeding side too
still just 10 wins from 27 league games
17 Feb 2013 17:02:16
I could not wate to get on this site after that result a get in there lads STEMLOCC
17 Feb 2013 17:01:37
The third goal by Enrique sums up what BR is trying to do.
Very well played tonight guys
AJP
17 Feb 2013 17:00:27
That was lovely to watch even if it was the Swansea be team.
The movement on the 3rd goal was sensational.
Hope Borini is alright. Bit of hard luck for him if that's another long injury.
JCJ
17 Feb 2013 17:00:12
not impressed we had 33 shots today I expected atleast 7 goals, 5 is just not good enough, get Suarez and Sturridge out, bring back Carrol.
Hoping this is a joke text, and you are not actually as much a person as would seem likely?
If you can't see that this was a joke your clearly one of the daft fans
17 Feb 2013 16:59:59
I have to put this out there. 35 shots on goal!
Big Al
17 Feb 2013 16:59:15
Didn't see it but Sky report said Borini may have dislocated his shoulder. I'm awaiting my 2nd operation for dislocated shoulders and if that's what he did he won't be back until next season!
Good luck to him!
WelshBoyDave
17 Feb 2013 16:05:04
Question for ed001 if possible,
Do we have a dedicated striking coach? Surely it would be worth asking rush or Fowler to teach Suarez and Co some composure in front of goal. They are always positioned right but squander easy chances.
Nevada {Ed001's Note - not that I am aware of, no. I wouldn't have thought that what they had could be taught, it was instinctive, rather than coached. I would suggest someone such as Aldridge, who did have to work up to that level, might be a better choice to coach forwards.}
17 Feb 2013 16:40:45
Coutinho the dancer'
Sturridge the beast'
Suarez the magician'
Excellent perfromance today lads'
Big Al
I think sturridge would protest against not being the dancer
17 Feb 2013 16:36:06
In the end Studge desverves his goal. How we look very different with him.
RedBeer.
17 Feb 2013 16:27:44
Wow, no positives from this season are there?
Rodgers doesn't know what he is doing and his football doesn't work does it?
Coutinho and sturridge were a waste of money were they?
I could go on and on about the rubbish you spout, likewise about the positives this season. Stop pretending you know more than the manager. You all get proven wrong when we win, just bury your head in the sand in shame. Evry time we lose we have to put up with this nonsense and it makes the atmosphere of of the club and this site feel negative when it really shouldn't be. Just shut up all together and accept you are wrong. Andalthough this isn't addressed to anyone yet, I think everyone knows who it is addressed to anyway.
Anonymous woolback
So when we are 7/8/9th in the league and out of the cups we are meant to say how great we are and how good rodgers is all because we beat swansea's second team at home.
Well said AW - Why is it when people reply with a negative response and just spit out rubbish they never sign their name. For cying out loud - it was fantastic beautiful football today and we won 5 nil - at least congratulate the team on todays performance!
Boysie-red
Don't get carried away mate. Laudrup had one eye on their big game next week and put out a very weakened side. A good performance though and you can only beat what's in front of you. The final league position will pass judgement on BR, 7th is not good enough.
Got me thinking on a team of the worst LFC premier league signings ever. Here's my 11:
Jones
Dicks
Traore
Ruddock
Konchesky
Diao
Allen
Cheyrou
Assaidi
Borini
Diouf
G
One Swallow does not make a summer
The trouble is mate, a great performance like that but they have to learn to gap grind out results as well and we haven't got that yet.
How stupid are you.
Lets win 3 in a row and the next 2 games should be easy.
You do need to remember this was a weakened swansea. you person.
I don't have anything against the manager, but people like you are such ignorant persons.
Roy
No but you are meant to support your team, not slander them everytime a result doesn't go the right way.
SMc
Roy
Your post would have a bit more substance is you derided ignorant people rather than ignorant persons!
Your post will become worth reading only if you just add STRING to your signing off name!
At least the post will end on a good note!
Indian with Red Heart
Well, forgot to mention. My earlier response was to post of a certain G.
Didnt wanted anyone to miss out on this.
Indian with Red Heart
17 Feb 2013 16:25:45
Fans on here earlier predicting another loss for Liverpool and slagging off the manager, unbelievable.
I suppose they'll point to the fact that Swansea changed their team around and anybody should of beaten them,
We should all just be happy that we've won, played well and created plenty of chances scoring goals along the way
Well done Rodgers and Liverpool
17 Feb 2013 16:20:34
We are back, I didn't slate us because I knew the guru is the best manager in the league. 4th isn't looking so far away now is it guys.
Keep it real fella, we are inconsistant
And here it starts again
Are you serious?
You are joking. I guess.
Roy
It`s miles away, you seem to be getting carried away
Your miles off 4th place no chance of champs league footy face facts red men
9 points adrift and played a game more, and you think 4th is not so far away?
fforestfach red
17 Feb 2013 16:19:02
Well boys I think a star may be being born.
17 Feb 2013 16:12:40
Sturridge is so selfish. wonder why he got that assist.
Sturridge is a top, top striker. Look how different we are as a team when he plays, even if he doesn't score it changes our whole point of attack and makes the opposition worry. We're lucky to have him.
Jud.
17 Feb 2013 16:09:29
Get Rodgers out! Not good enough today everyone should be sacked!
Joke this is what happens when we finish our chances so all you moaners go back and suck on a lemon
Londonred
Check out the oposition team line up and keep it real. Not saying it isn't a good performance or well deserved, let's just make sure we don't overreact either way.
Long may these performances and scorelines continue, but I wouldn't hold your breath.
Totally agree let's not get carried away 30+ shots from open play 3 goals scored. , not good enough goals per shot ratio. needs a bit more cmposure. Great result +5 to our goal difference
We had 20 plus shots against a strong West Brom team, missed countless chances, others including a penalty were saved. Surely that could have been 3-0 if we took our chances.
Papa G
Over react? Mate have you not read this site? It's one extreme or the other
Londonred
To the first reply these players are still professional footballers trying to get a starting place in a cup final! Just lighten up and give the team some praise for once!
17 Feb 2013 16:08:24
Hi ed002,
I`m dissapointed, as probably most of Liverpool fans are, with league position and points gained so far but I`m happy that Rodgers brings in young, pacy, technical players like Coutinho and Sturridge. They make a difference. The future may be bright for Liverpool. tom {Ed002's Note - Coutinho has much to prove and now has an opportunity to do so - and I think will. Sturridge is a good addition to the squad.}
Coutinho should be used in winnable homes games
i don't think he llplay in midfield warzones like v chelsea everton stoke
use him wisely build his confidnece then eventally he can play against sides of this ilk
he s just a kid
tom1975
17 Feb 2013 15:55:10
Another stonewall penatly denied LFC by Howard Hebb.
Abroad Red.
Goal number 3 was absolutely outrageous - what skill! Team play! lovely stuff
3rd goal was stolen from the Barca book of outrageous goals;-)
kidmillions
17 Feb 2013 15:50:09
22 shots in the first half.
BR does not have a clue. Out of his depth.
So for creating chances, then being unable to finish them it's all Brendan Rodgers' fault? Is that what you're really saying, he's not lacing them in like he used to?
Alex
Countinho and sturridge aren't good enough, they can't even get into the chelsea or inter team
A contradiction in terms - BR out of his depth yet we have 22 shots on target?? What - 22 shots not enough for you? Is it BR's fault if Suarez and the frontline can't convert the chances being made? You are speaking absolute twaddle! Boysie-Red
Is this sarcasm?
Not a clue. The shot accuracy is all his fault. I'm an astronaut. I'm clueless like you too.
The score is 4-0, what do you say now?
ChrisMiz
Do people not understand sarcasm?
Boysie-red
That was sarcasm you absolute muppet
The Welsh
The Welsh - when writing a sarcastic comment one should write it in either inverted commas or denote sarcasm in brackets to help the reader interpret that you are indeed being sarcastic about a comment previously made. When you write 3 sentences in a row ending with full-stops, it normally means that you are stating a fact. Given their was no name sign-off, it sounded to me that it was just another LFC basher who wanted to be antagonistic rather then provide a witty comment. But thank you for now it explaining it, very much appreciated (sarcasm)!
Boysie-red/Muppet
17 Feb 2013 15:49:40
We really need to take some of these chances could of been 4-0 by now coutinho bad miss but his trickery is great to watch and effective.
KingMiz
We are 4-0 up lol
Lol I sent that at half time mate. team were probably reading the site and didn't want to disappoint me.
KingMiz
17 Feb 2013 15:48:31
We should've killed it in the first half. I doubt the second half will be as easy.
This 7 changes is a bit strange from Swansea. we need to make sure we take advantage.
Roy
Its even easier.
Thanks Michael
Roy
They have a cup fina next week which is more than we have to look forward too, we might be winning 5-0 against swansea be team but i'm not fooled by this. Rodgers out!l
17 Feb 2013 15:47:48
Countinho just might have the keys!
KUMBER
17 Feb 2013 15:46:47
Christ what is it with you people! Playing well and your still moaning!. at least we're creating chances. get a grip Spoons
Some of them on here will even continue to moan after we win a game,
Kelly Red
17 Feb 2013 15:34:45
Nice one Stevie Legend
17 Feb 2013 15:29:45
Theres a curse, there must be. Coutinho has got to score that. Incredible, what is it? 15 shots in 25 minutes already. 1-2 on target.
17 Feb 2013 15:26:16
This game sums Liverpool up every other team not just top team basically EVERY team would have scored atleast one of these chances : (
Londonred
17 Feb 2013 15:26:13
How many chances have we already missed. Should be 2 or 3 up!
Do we have a shooting coach?
17 Feb 2013 15:24:29
I touched the This is Anfield sign about 10 am the morning after Liverpool won the title last in 1990. I never thought 23 years later we would be so far away from ever doing it again.
I was born on the 13 and have started to wonder if I am a bit of a jona. Maybe I should offer to go back and touch the sign again and lift the curse.
You cursed us!
Get your arse down to anfield and touch that sign and if we win the title next year i'm sure there will be a few fans willing to buy you a pint for your effort lol
17 Feb 2013 14:54:04
Look I'm as frustrated as the next man (the sky remote almost took the tv out, after the second Brom goal!) but whether we like it or not the simple answer is Rodgers needs time. Yes the majority of his signings haven't worked out as yet, but they all have talent and again need time. I really believe Allen will come good and Borini will start chipping in with the goals when he settles in. ( I'm sure Borini has only played 8 games or so ) The least we can do is give Rodgers a full second season, if results remain inconsistent then fine, time to change, but at the moment stability is key. Spoons
17 Feb 2013 14:49:24
How Agger gets in this team is beyond me. i'd rather play with ten men
Brilliant fan you are!
17 Feb 2013 16:00:15
the same way your post getting uploaded here.
Stay off the mushrooms lad he's the bestdefender we have
17 Feb 2013 14:59:50
In the press today Rodgers is talking about fearing losing his best players such as Suarez to other clubs. Why on earth is he talking like this to the press? What on earth has he got to gain? The answer is absolutely nothing. By doing this, he is virtually inviting bids for these players. This man has certainly kissed the Blarney Stone at some point in his life. We definitely need a PR advisor of high quality at the club to advise Rodgers that there are times in his management to speak out and times like this to button it.
17 Feb 2013 14:42:10
Come on Liverpool, really give it a go today. Give 110% from the first whistle, get a goal or two against this second string swansea side, and THEN relax and take it easy.
I have confidence in us today, sturridge improves our team considerably. Let's hope I'm right.
Run around, pass it back, miss good chances for 70 minutes.
Run out of steam. Give the ball away, concede 2 sloppy goals.
17 Feb 2013 14:38:18
Swansea have changed 7 players from their starting xi, its opportunity to take advantage and no better chance to beat them
You just jinxed us.
We are beyond jinxed at the moment
17 Feb 2013 14:31:59
Come on Liverpool. Make my day. 3-1, I live in hope!
The Irish Rover
Couldve been 5 0 already
Have a good day Irish
Roy
17 Feb 2013 14:26:02
Downing in starting 11 again, should have been coutinho on top with sturridge and suarez, Hendo has been one of our best players lately and should get another start. Anyone agree? Downing isn't as horrible lately as he has been, but is no end produkt what so ever, and he has gotten plenty chances to show now, lucas, gerrard and hendo should be our mid 3 and suarez sturridge coutinho on top. What does other guys feel?
Norwegian-red
Henderson carrying a knock apparently. Best to leave him out if he's not 100%
Downing is faster than Coutinho, so I would prefer what Brendan has put out today. Still a very strong side.
Piledriver
Hendo not 100% fit I heard mate.
HullRED
Ok if hendo got a knock is ok I guess, yes downing is faster, but all he do is running like a headless chicken
And ofc just when o wrote, downing had an exellent assist on suarez goal
17 Feb 2013 14:25:27
I would like everybodys opinion on this.
Do you think Joe Allen is as far along now as Lucas was in his stage of his Liverpool career?
He does seem to possess the skill, we saw that in the early part of the season, but do people think he has the mental strength and commitment that Lucas has?
Thanks!
WelshBoyDave
If Allen wants to succeed at LFC I suggest he spends May June and July on the bench press.
It's difficult to say Lucas was bought as an attacking midfielder. But I also remember fans and pundits saying that Allen was a bargain at 15, and looked more like a 30 million player.
KUMBER
17 Feb 2013 14:21:56
Listening to Didi Hamann on LFC tv prior to kick off, he don't half talk a lot of sense. His knowledge and no nonsense attitude about the game is very pleasing to hear. I get the feeling he would make an excellent Coach/Manager in the near future. I'd certainly like to see him work at Anfield in some capacity he definitely brings something refreshiningly different.
Curled1
Didn't do too well as a manager though Didi?
He might be knowledgable but let's be honest, Didi didn't exactly set a good example when he played.
Didnt he flop at stockport?
Anyways he's partly to blame for the thickleness FSG the Liverpool fans he's just as bad and spouts rubbish on his twitter
I suggest he talks high and mighty when he is charge of a top PL team
I really wish Didi had given us the heads up on Lewis Holtby, perfect replacement for Gerard.
Wenger got his 1st club Nancy relegated, so did Klopp I believe.
So don't just write Didi off he could end up being a great manager.
17 Feb 2013 14:13:33
The old man keeps his place, oh well at least we know we need to score to get a draw.
I bet you were one of those who bent over backwards wishing the old man well on foot of his retirement announcement
17 Feb 2013 14:06:50
Ed, seriously what happened to ASSAIDI, its sad to see DOWNING and STERLING get the most of the chance as they are not so good even with the amount of matches given to them. Is assaidi had an operation or?
FaZzY {Ed002's Note - Try search function please.}
17 Feb 2013 14:06:48
tell me this folks how are we going to get a top manger without the funds he would need to build a squad?
And it will take another 2, 3, maybe 4 years to get it right, rogers has been in charge now for 7 months, and a lot of fans don't seem to like the fact that rogers replaced kenny and won't give him the chance he deserves. and don't come back saying why didn't kenny get that time, because kenny had my backing right til the end same with rogers.
And yes we are all entitled to our views. but at what expense.
Because at this crucial time of the season when the manger players and club need us most,
What are we doing calling for the mangers head and that will really shows the players that they should be fighting to help our manger to get as high as possible in the table.
So Please help our club to fight for our lives and climb as high as we can for the rest of the season.
BACK the club, BACK the players, BACK the manger
YNWA
RB
Rafa will be available, he is a top manager.
Ancellotti will probably be available, he is a top manager.
Rafa will take the job in a second, don't know about Carlo though.
Rafa will take the job and then fight FSG all over the globe
He will also sign 70 odd bad players on exhorborant contracts and have some poor shagg*r clear up his mess
Much as I dislike BR that's not an improvement
Becoming an excuse merchant for BR won't help
BR is not good enough give him till the next coming and he still won't be good enough
The sooner BR goes and takes his one dimeensional party peice whith him the better
ITs not a case of being against BR
ITs a case of being against a mgr who won't compromise who thinks there's only one way to play no matter what
Thats why BR has to go Time will cure BR
IF BR was adaptable, was more flexible even enough though the results were bad, most fans could grind it out and I would agree with you but when we are not seeing any change in BR football its time to call it a day and the sooner the better
Island Nation
17 Feb 2013 13:48:23
Hey guys an gals, any sites that can watch todays match on? Cheers people
Epl site or first row sports. Both are top class
17 Feb 2013 13:36:33
Anybody know what channel the game is on? Or were I can find it?
Rb
Firstrowsports. eu
Plymouth Red.
17 Feb 2013 13:34:16
As a Liverpool fan I'll be supportin our team and I'll be hoping we play well and win today, here's why,
(A) Obviously because I'm a Liverpool fan,, and (B) So I can come onto this site again without having to read disgraceful negative posts from so called disgusting fellow fans,
There's nothing wrong with constructive criticism and expressing your opinion or havin a bit of a moan,,, but some of these posts are just out and out Slagging off OUR manager. As supporters you're an absolute embarrassment and a Joke
Kelly Red
I feel the same way about fellow LFC fans who slag other fans off just because they have a different point of view, eh Kelly?
To the,, UNSIGNED poster above,, was that supposed to be some kind of smart come back?, Well you failed miserably because it makes no sense.
I suggest you read my post again.
I'm saying that it's disgraceful to see our own fans just slag off our Manager and our Team instead of giving constructive criticism
The fact that some people disagree with that just proves my point about some of the fans on here
Kelly Red
You called your fellow fans a "joke " and an "embarrassment".
Much the same as what people are saying about Rodgers.
Yeah, but if so called fans only input is to post "Brendan Out", "Brendan Out" over and over every 5 minutes then they obviously are a joke and an embarrassment
17 Feb 2013 13:18:11
I wish all these so called fans would read the heading of the article in which they can read between the lines and say Alonso is 100% coming back.
If you love him so much do what he says and BE PATIENT.
Did you listen to his last line.
"There must be improvements"
I agree with him.
17 Feb 2013 12:56:47
Marcus Aurelius. {Ed002's Note - I am sorry this will only degrade in to further abuse of the owners or the manager - so I am not going to answer any of your questions.}
Ok, your decision respected.
Please confirm I was not slagging the manager or owners with my questions.
Secondly, between you and I was I right about the set up of a panel?
{Ed002's Note - I am not suggesting you were putting down either, but answers to the questions would have done. I would not read too much in to the "panel" word to be honest.}
17 Feb 2013 13:11:33
BR's problem is that the near 30 million spent on Allen, Borini and Assaidi hasn't worked out. Hindsight is wonderfully but for a club who hasn't got the riches of Chelsea or City we need to do much better in the transfer if we are to ever challenge again.
Did I read something similar yesterday oh and the day before and the day before that,
RB
Borini allen and assaidi cost 10 million pounds less than carroll :) {Ed002's Note - Actually they cost around £4M less than Carroll.}
Yes, must do much better Brendan, that means not buying anymore average players for big money, and starting with NOT buying Ashley Williams from Swansea.
Jonny 71
True about the amount spent on these two players. I think what also needs taking into account was the wage bill. I've no doubts that in footballing terms Borini will not be earning a great deal (again in footballing terms). Got to give them both another season, both young players, with time on their side, just need to settle. Allen's performances early in the season proves he has potential Spoons
17 Feb 2013 13:05:05
Continued on, I also believe that we could possibly be Spending the most this summer if suarez leaves and the sales of players going though i. e carroll plus a dismil defence and GK need rectified than a lot of dosh will be needed but Will' be available. I wouldn't be surprise if we spend close to the 80million mark. It is very possible'
Big Al
Reina £10-15m
Skrtel £20m
Suarez £40-50m
Carroll £15m
Downing £10m
Could be an interesting summer
Plymouth Red.
17 Feb 2013 15:14:07
and who wish to come to us?
higuain?. kakka?. osil?. de maria?
and you are selling suarez. to make another team stronger.
Who will pay 20M for pepe?
17 Feb 2013 12:56:27
Good to see Liverpool fans fighting eachother! Keep it up haha
Good to see opposition fans are still obsessed with us and have nothing to talk about with their own clubs.
17 Feb 2013 12:53:33
Hi eds and reds. I know most people are hating rodgers now but what do you eds think? At the start of the season everyone knew it was going to be a difficult with ups and downs. I believe that the majority are going off rodgers because we lost to wba and top four chances were gone. Top six was always going to be a good finish this year.
13 reds {Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed as far as I am concerned. It was a job too early for him but whilst in teh job he deserves the support of the fans.}
Your judging it as a job to early based on what? The poor bloke has only had a few months in charge. He will do good, rome wasnt built in a day. He will get us back to the top, you watch.
Were you getting the most fans?
anyone I have talked to want to give rogers time.
RB
Thats a near perfect way of putting it ed.
derryred
He means experience wise obviously, which is true.
However he's our manager we therefor need to support him.
Plymouth Red.
I believe ed was looking at the lack of success BR had on his résumé before taking such a big position. I agree he needs time, but that's a separate issue than being under qualified.
FL Red Fish
That's just ed002 opinion has been from the beginning. no need to get defensive.
AJP
17 Feb 2013 12:33:47
Obviously hoping for a win today and Sturridge being back should make a difference but if the worst was to appen and we lost today and next week against Zenit do the message boarders think that would be the end of the road for BR as far as FSG are concerned
I think BR is in for a very difficult conversation at least com end of season review
Opinion alert:
-The Europa league is gone.
-The Europa league and other cups would make no difference to FSG, but they would help with the fans opinion of Brendan.
-He will be judged on his performance in the league.
-His league results are not good enough but 9 more wins would make a difference.
- FSG will give Brendan 2 options 1) Walk away. 2) accept he needs a director of football.
Just an opinion, don't hate
Director of football. NO
17 Feb 2013 12:22:36
I have to agree with Rodgers.
Our summer signings have to consist of men. There is no point I signing any women, I don't think they are allowed to play football with men.
17 Feb 2013 12:19:22
Just because we are at home today does not mean we have a god given right to win, 2 mid-table teams. If we expect to win we will never be happy, they have to earn it and if they do it will be the first time in 4/5 games against them. With sturridge we are a completely different animal be confident, support & if all goes pair shapped still support!
Swampmonster
17 Feb 2013 12:16:44
How can anyone tell me what the app is called so I can stream the game on my phone?
Cheers
Sign up for admc bpl. Quality is great. But you will have to make a new account and choose uae as your country
17 Feb 2013 12:03:18
I hope Coutinho and Sturridge start today. Now this season is completely over it would be nice to see theses guys kick on and bed in for next season. DBol
I don't think the manager can afford to not finish the season strongly. They will only play if they are ready.
17 Feb 2013 13:44:57
I posted 3 times earlier with team news he was playing, none were shown. Intresting.
Waro {Ed002's Note - Did you look on the Team page?}
17 Feb 2013 11:53:38
I have to laugh, I stated when we were winning" games that we needed another striker stating the difference with us and United is that they have 4 strikers who can put the ball in the back of the net' compared to sturridge and Suarez (2).
And yet many disagreed but now results have gone badly, there's a sudden influx of posts of we need another goalscorer. Some fans have me scratching my head#
It was always evident we needed another top striker, that's the definitive difference between us and top 4, as stated long ago' if suarez gets injured or sold-also stated, we have one good striker'However our current priority is the defence. Be interesting to see what. occurs in the summer
Big Al
We also need a new Keeper, CB and a dominant midfielder a Toure Like player.
Plymouth Red.
And a new manager
17 Feb 2013 11:51:26
Why are you guys so impatient? No one said we will get top 4 this season except us! Our top players probably knew it would be a big ask! Can you not see that we can't just dish out hundreds of millions on big name players! The owners showed intent by paying out £35m on big Andy and you all bitched about him and abused him! He was doing very well in the EPL before coming to us, it's always a risk paying big money for a player when the outcome is unknown. I want us to do well as much as anyone else, but having these massive expectations we are only setting ourselves up for a fall. No team has a right to top 4, it's hard these days and teams have to really earn it! We've had a number of different managers over the last few seasons, each time having to start over and the team having to adapt to a different philosophy! We openly criticise Chelsea supporters for their lack of patience but in many ways we are worse than them! Get a grip guys, get behind the team and do what we are meant to do. SUPPORT!
Well said
KUMBER
The manager did say in December 2012 that we could finish in the top 2.
Can you really blame the fans for feeling disappointed?
17 Feb 2013 19:01:04
What the hell was he going to say? Damage the player's confidence by saying no chance? There are a number of teams who "could" finish top 4, but it was never a realistic aim at the start of the season!
17 Feb 2013 11:48:56
Always wondered why we haven't tried a 4-2-2-2. Lucas and Gerrard sitting back and then Hendo and another attacking midfielder (coutinho) further up, would also remove the problem of who to play down the middle up top! Along with out attacking full backs, over-lapping, which would provide width!
Just a thought
REDJJ
4-2-2-2.
Back to the old days eh when we showed Europe how to play football.
Great times.
Personally, I think 3-1-2-2-1-1 would be a better option. Either that or score more goals than the opposition, that has worked in the past.
3-1-2-2-1-1
so you mean and attacking 351 as appose to a defensive 5311
17 Feb 2013 11:46:14
Y is everyone hating on Rodgers. give the guy a chance, he's still playing wiv dalglishes team and has improved near enuff every player. I hope the papers are true and that there is a huge clear out because itll mean plenty of activity coming in. the only player I dnt like that rodgers has signed is borini. but to be fair he ain't had the chance, and in italy he's known as the next inzaghi. a player in the right place at the right time. I expect roders to sign players who suit the way he plays and that's the only time we can start judging him. if suarez has to be sold to sign two top wingers then it has to be done. sturridge is the numbrr 1 striker at the club, as much as I like suarez. when he's up front he should stay there, 50 million ftom him. 17 from carrol. 8 for downing. 8 for henderson. 10 for skrtl. that should give rodgers 90 million plus what ever he's given to revamp the squad. altough its fruatrating, you can't expect the guy to turn kennys bad signings into a top 4 team. plus I think allen will be quality wheb playing wiv players suited to the way he plays, quick passing etc. Basically in my opinion we can only judge rodgers after the summer when he's cleared all the players he dnt want whcih is alot, and who he replaces them wiv. exciting times ahead I think
JJ
Don't think hendo will go anywhere. Downing prob will cause of his age, we might still get a good price for him.
KUMBER
Improved nearly every player?
Except: Reina, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Enrique, Lucas and Gerrard?
Suarez has improved but let's not forget he had to miss a quarter of the season through suspension.
Downing has marginally improved from Rock Bottom
All last seasons other first teamers : Maxi, Adam, Bellamy, Kuyt have all been sold.
So who are all these players he's improved? Last seasons reserves?
17 Feb 2013 11:38:55
were is the love
you all have turned in to doomsday glass half empty turn on the players the manager the oweners other fans hateing people why has this happend at the start of the season every fan new that this team was no neerer 4 than the last season if we got 4 it would of been a bonus but as things stand we won't make 4 but can we challenge next year for it NO problem with some of the displayes this year against the top 4 teams and a team that got more experience together and a manager with more also I think that is all that matters we all new this season was a learing one for all but it will help if every one stops the finger pointing and never walk al one
st brendan&me
17 Feb 2013 11:38:34
Dear Brendan,
When you become the manager of the Club I love, (taking over from someone who Jamie Carragher described as the only man to be both a Legend as a Player AND Manager) - I wanted you to be a modest, evolving LFC manager who would tweak the platform left for him. I wanted you to be successful. I truly did.
I wanted you to continue the work and take things forward but I didn't need your philosophy. This was LFC you were taking over, not Leeds. Steps. Progress. Momentum. I wanted you to add to a team that was at the very least becoming very competitive. I am sure that FSG also thought they were getting a young but smart manager who would build on the work achieved since 2011. A team that whilst inconsistent and missing finishing certainly, but on their day just 12 months ago, capable of beating Manchester United, Chelsea and City - and just missing out on two Cups. and then declined at the end of a tough season, spent largely without Carroll, Gerrard, Lucas and Suarez.
Do you really see that happening now? Can the team that you coach even beat a team above them?
You inherited a squad that needed work certainly but not far from being a nice balance of power, pace, youth team graduates, experience - and a few genuine stars. But like a lot of managers who get promoted too soon - you felt this appointment was an anointment of your current genius and decided that your 'philosophy' was being rewarded. Unfortunately, excessive self confidence that is not backed up by history or results, does not a good manager or leader make - and after a while (a bit like David Brent. ), people see through it.
Brendan, I think people are seeing it now. The cracks are appearing and the through them, the drips of doubt are seeping.
I hear that many of the football press pack refer to you as 'David' - as in David Brent? It is a slight born from the constant stream of cliches and jargon that was so evidently seen in the disaster that was 'Being Liverpool'. Its a funny press pack joke. But in all comedy there is truth. And it is funny because like Brent, you have over confidence and under performance and people eventually see past the jargon. Its a kind of disrespect to you that will drip through to squad, management and owners. Drip, drip, drip.
The press may not have always liked the robust and sometimes confrontational approach of Houllier, Benitez and Dalglish - but they, fans and the players had good reason to respect them. And whilst all had their ups and downs, they had one thing in common. They were ALL winners, who took LFC to countless trophies, finals and near misses. I cannot imagine any genuine Liverpool fan not respecting Houllier, Benitez and Dalglish - despite their mixed fortunes over the years. Perhaps, you could be respected like them - one day. Perhaps, if you had agreed to work under a Director of Football. Perhaps. if you had managed a Club other than Swansea, Watford or Reading (from where you were sacked) - before taking the seat at LFC? But never mind, you sound good on the radio - and the press pack can have a good laugh at our Club's expense when they play cliche bingo at your press conference.
Brendan, it's not about your age either. LFC had a great young manager before, not a bad player either. He took over after Heysel, which was a bit tough. But he had the humility, wisdom and smarts to realise that he could learn a lot from Joe Fagan and Roy Evans. Thirty years later, he brought in Steve Clarke, another young manager who could benefit from his experience who went on to do a great job at WBA.
Brendan, you could have learnt a lot from an older head if you'd been willing to work under a Director of Football. And FSG will not be forgiving when they realise they should have refused your demands to work alone. My only thinking is that you must be one helluva salesman and a great interviewee. Good on you, a mistake from FSG, shame for us. It is now, when the pressure comes on, when the dressing room full of great players starts to questions your theories - that you could have benefited from an older head in the office down the corridor.
LFC does not criticise players in public - nor play down the value of a centre forward coming back from injury. Its not just dumb management Brendan - it just lacks complete class. Its not about you Brendan. Its not about your philosophy. And that, is why so many are now questioning you and not liking the answers.
So, where are we now? Well. you've certainly made your mark with fans and the media. But let's leave the poor results and the fact you're losing the dressing room for a minute. It does not surprise me that questions are being asked. The rumours circulating of a return of Dalglish (as Ambassador) - and perhaps Ancelotti as Manager are clearly the start of a PR campaign that will lead to transition. Maybe soon, but more likely in April. Drip, drip, drip. people will make their own answers.
What to do next? Well, firstly, there will be a change. It is coming. LFC need an interim manager to steady the ship till the summer. If the results are poor for the next 2-3 games, then I can see parachuting in Ericcson, Rangnick - or event Di Matteo to at least bring some stability to the team for the last few months. All this talk of long term stability is nonsense - when one looks at how Hodgson and Dalglish (both vastly more experienced and respected than you) were treated.
In the summer, Dalglish will return as President or Ambassador - which is clearly already on the cards. I think FSG realise what Kenny brought to the Club, that he was more than a player, a manager, an emblem. Then FSG will either aim for an experienced manager, the likes of Ancelotti or Advocaat (PSV) - or bring in a DOF (Klinsmann) working with a young manager, such as Hypia (win ratio of 58% in Bundeslegia) - possibly working alongside Carragher and Gerrard as Assistants. people who can truly become the next young Liverpool managers.
That is what should have happened in summer 2012. And it should happen in summer 2013.
That is the Liverpool way. Bring through people who are winners, who have a personal modesty combined with a love of success - not jargon. Yes, we need a star signing every now and then, not a squad of stars. A leader who commands respect and love from players and fans, in good times and bad.
And someone who manages more like Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish - than David Brent.
YNWA
DREW
God, how long did it take you to come up with that drivel?
BrisbaneLFC
Well, you lost me on "Countless Trophies" that Houllier, Benitez, KK won for LFC!
What did you had at weekend?. hmmm. Share the cocktail recipe please!
Indian with Red Heart
17 Feb 2013 12:43:35
What utter tripe. You really should find something better to do with your time.
Red Owl
Soneone like paisley etc? Carry on the good work left ro him? Only needed tweaking?
And this my people is why we will never get anywhere
Absolutely dillusional
Stick to the nfl drew.
So when did Rodgers lose the dressing room? Rafa won countless silverware? Think I could easily count them on one hand. Supporting the club means to support the players, managers and every thing that goes with it.
KUMBER
God,, I can't believe I wasted minutes off my life reading this ridiculous post, what absolute utter nonsense.
At one point you started slaggin off Rodgers becuase of the way he deals with the media and press, are you insane, do you not remember Kenny's interviews from last year?
Kelly Red
Very Mills & Boone!
Nick
Yes, let's get Di Matteo as an interim manager. Hmmm
Whatever you're taking my friend can I buy some off you?
Cormac Red fan
The way Dalglish handled the Suarez Racism incident with the Press was MORE like Brent than anything Rodgers has done or said.
Simon Anfield
I quote from the post ' we do not crictise' and yet what did you just do?!
JD
Kenny's interviews we're good he put the media in there place where they belong.
Plymouth Red.
No. I said the media are laughing at him behind his back - that is different from saying he does not have media communication skills.
Drew
Thanks for the comments. I note how you all avoid the substance of my argument. That
Rodgers is over confident and under performing, that he should be serving under a DOF, that he inherited a team in far better shape than Dalglish did and that he is losing respect of press and owners. Granted, I'm guessing that he is losing the dressing room.
Drew
My memory tells me that under Houllier, Benitez and Dalglish my Club have won a UEFA Cup, Champions League, 2 FA Cups, 2 League Cups - plus runners up in Champions League and FA Cup and several Community Shields?
Maybe you're not fans of LFC but I certainly have pride in winning things.
Drew
I thought is was a decent post, Drew is only telling us what he thinks. Its called 'banter' guys, give the man a break. He may not be correct in his assumptions, however he had the skill to put into his post exactly what he was thinking in a very intelligent way.
Good on you drew, I enjoyed the read, despite what has been said by some posters. plus there were a few areas of your post I actually agreed with as well!
Tel 1949
Anyone who criticises Kenny's handling of the media were either born before 1989 or have bad/short memories.
Ask yourself why the manager of LFC in 1989 would have a problem with the media? Ask yourself why he hates talking to journalists who are out to belittle him.
17 Feb 2013 11:32:52
Well, I think BR has been murdered every day on this site. let's see how some players have fared so far this season and opinions of you guys especially BR OUT Brigade!
Suarez: Flashes of Brilliance and Stupidity. He is a hybrid version of intelligence and insanity. Tries too many tricks and seldom pulls the rabbit out of Hat. Only if he starts making more right choices, we will be scoring even more.
Sturridge: Has been very impressive so far. Too early to form an opinion but has all right attributes to become prolific goal scorer. Again, hope he's got the wise head on his shoulders when in front of goal.
Downing: Everybody saying his performances have picked up and started to show his form. What? Because we are comparing his current form to abysmal show last season. What does he offer in front 3? I guess nothing so he will be off in summer.
Johnson: For me, he is the most inconsistent and least hard working player in team. Offensively he is good but then once he loses ball being forward, its all over from him unless somebody else steps up. Defensively, he has never been up to the mark.
Enrique: Again, far too inconsistent. Works hard on and off the ball but tries to do too much when on the ball. that's not his strength but he needs to get up high on the wing and deliver crosses or put balls in the box. He fails to do this simple task more often than not. His only assists have been when played on wings not as full back.
Sterling: Started well and impressed with his pace and hard work. Even his body strength sometimes defies his small structure. But I think he has been found out and is very one-dimensional. He needs to add more trickery to his game and he can very easily add that due to his low center of gravity. Currently, just like downing, he is not adding anything to front 3. He is not perceived as a threat going forward.
Hendo: Some consistent performances recently. A workhorse and now we can see in some passes and forward movement that he is growing in confidence. Lot more to come from him.
Gerrard: He has been a legend and always will be. More than capable of pulling strings from deep lying CM position in midfield just like Scholes in his second innings. I think Scholes was very impressive but Gerrard does not Bigs up against so called lower oppositions and at times when these teams stick up and frustrate us invariably we end up losing or drawing.
Also current playing style demands collective defending whenever we lose the ball. BR has said every time that in this footballing style its very important how we play off the ball. In my opinion, we are still learning this feature that how to win back the ball asap.
Pepe: Inconsistent. Any better option available. No.
Agger: Brilliant reader of game. Very good on the ball but defenders can't afford mistakes. Because once they commit mistake, more often it results in a goal and football is not a very high scoring sport.
Skrtel: Still wondering, what has happened between last season and this season that his confidence and descision making has taken a you turn.
Lucas: Returned from a long injury and still is not 100%. Naturally after such horrific injury and being out for so long plays in your mind and you don't go for full blooded tackles which otherwise you are known for. It will take substantial time for him to recover mentally and be the same player again.
Allen, Borini, Shelvey, Suso, Assaidi etc have been done to death on this site so no need to run over them again.
Now have a good insight of the team players and their consistency this season.
1) Except Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard and now from last few games Hendo does any other player instill confidence in you.
2) Do FSG/BR afford to overhaul entire team over 2 transfer windows?
3) We have far too many inconsistent performers in our team. Being good/brilliant in 1 out of every 4-5 matches is suicidal.
4) If 1 player is non-performing in a match, it can be overshadowed/overcome by other players working their socks off to compensate but 4-5 players performing inconsistently every other match is a recipe for disaster.
As time and again I have advocated for BR, I urge my fellow brothers to have some patience. Even when we are losing or conceded a goal and cameras are spotted on BR, he doesn't looks like a lost figure as previous managers. He knows the holes in his team and trying to get the best out of available resources. He has stated right from the start of season that its going to take 2-3 seasons to bed in and perfect this style. So why being impatient? What was our expectation? What big a difference is getting a 7th or 9th?
I will gladly accept next season without Europa if that can get us Champions League spot. Of course, none of us has answers for these questions but time has. So why not let time answer all these questions and we stay united and get behind our team unanimously.
Indian with Red Heart.
So from your post I can see Agger Hendo and Sturridge have been our best players this season? Garbage lad
Yeah! With the name you signed off, I won't blame you with your synopsis of my post.
Indian with Red Heart
17 Feb 2013 12:43:12
Indian with red heart your trying to defend a man who has wasted money on hasbeens, at the sametime saying he needs another 2-3 windows for what to waste more money on more hasbeens, do you really think FSG will give him more money after the way our modern shankly aka Rodgers has burnt their money I doubt it.
FSG shouldn't give him even a cent if he wants players then he should Generate money by selling players in order to buy or work with same squad to achieve champions league.
To the poster (UNSIGNED) above,, How has Rodgers wasted money on Hasbeens? The players he's brought in are all under 23,
Kelly Red
Suarez has been our best player bar none imagine him at a club that he didn't have to nearly set himself up for a goal every game, He would be devastating I'm glad he's ours.
They are not HASBEENS, more like NEVERGOINGTOBE's
17 Feb 2013 11:26:39
Just been watching Sunday supplement and Rodgers is finally getting the flack he deserves Joe Allen 15 million what a joke Borini 10 million is a joke
17 Feb 2013 11:23:17
As some will know I comment rarely though I am an avid reader.
I think it is time to bring a little perspective to all of the arguments going on and whilst some will disagree with what I am going to write, we should then banter with each other rather than insult.
That is my first point. It seems acceltable to insult people on forums like this now. That is wrong I'm afraid, you have no right to insult the Eds, other supporters, each other, the players or the manager. How would you react if someone was to insult your children?
Second point. Whilst discussion and banter are brilliant, and I loved the banter I got Recently about being a boring banker at home with my 10 cats, we cannot pretend to be football experts or professional players. We should therefore take other views on board.
There is no doubt that we are ranging from fabulous to terrible in our play at the moment, some players need a kicking, but let's get off our moral soap boxes and not pretend we know better.
Thirdly. Whilst some of us consult professionally with multi national companies we do not own them ourselves. We have no right to abuse our owners and pretend we could or would be doing a better job. If Richard Branson wishes to comment I will listen and accept. I don't think Richard is an avid fan of this site though. FSG have invested hundreds of millions into this club. Pay them enough respect to be truthfull and thoughtfull at least.
This whole site is about having fun, having debate, discussion. Disagreeing but not bashing each other. Please take the Micky out of me and others but do not become hateful and personal.
We are Liverpool supporters. We rightly demanded respect and understanding for those lost at Hilsborough, we need to be mindful to treat others as we wish to be treated.
Here's to winning today and if not feel free to shout, cry and banter. Please do not abuse.
Dave
Nice post Dave. Sentiments echoed.
I criticise Rodgers when we get poor results. I don't abuse him, I don't "spout bile" and "vile hatred". But I do criticise and I do call for changes. Mainly because Brendan refuses to change and adapt.
With all the technology, money and analysts in the game the one thing you cannot afford to be is predictable.
Brendan IS predictable, we know what the team are going to do. They are going to they are going to pass the ball about without making much progress and when they lose possession they are going to be disorganised and exposed. It's easy to play against hence our results. Most of the teams have been playing against it for 5 years when they play Arsenal.
So if I see Rodgers repeating his mistakes and results going badly I will keep criticising him because he's not doing his job well.
I will not abuse or insult anyone I will call it as I see it.
Brendan is nearly as predictable as you. Who call for a sacking before someone even had one season!
How long did it take shankley? If he had got the sack because of fans like you we wouldn't be the club we are now!
Good post Dave, there is NEVER any reason to get abusive or make snide comments to anyone. We are LFC supporters. Respect to fellow human beings costs nothing after all.
Good banter and real supporters genuine thoughts are OK.
Tel 1949
Did Shankly (sp) take over a club who won a league cup and reached the final of an FA cup and finished 8th in the top division?
Did Shaknly spend more money (net) than virtually any other club in the country in his first season?
Before you start handing out criticism, know your history.
17 Feb 2013 11:22:42
I think we played well, it's just unfortunate that we couldn't win today. We dominated most the game etc, etc. Here Brendan 1 less thing to do today, I wrote your postgame speech.
You forgot "can't fault the players"
17 feb 2013 11:19:42
swansea today hope we win i would luve to see sturridge and coutinho start,
i reckon rodgers is only playin hendo downin enrique to raise value and ship dem out end
of season we would probli get
6mil downing
7mil hendo
5mil enrique
even though i would deff keep hendo and sell allan for free instead and would never get rid of reina as he's still better dan most and liverpool fans forget how gud he is with his feet better than any keeper and the way we play back to keeper every other minuite any other keeper would make 3 to 4 mistakea guarenteed
basy
You are joking? Hendo's been immense in recent months
Plymouth Red.
Bays I think that may be the case with Downing but I believe that Hendo will still be here in a few years time. He is young and improving in confidence each and every time that he pulls on our beloved shirt.
Scouse_Pride
17 Feb 2013 11:19:33
Hi eds do you expect Liverpool to spend all the money they get from movin players on? I know we are looking at cbs but do you know if they are looking to strengthin any other areas? And if suarez goes do you think more strikers will be bought as personally if he goes we are going to need more fire power ajh316 {Ed002's Note - The summer is some distance off but you can certainly expect changes in the defence.}
17 Feb 2013 10:53:56
Just leaving from Nottingham now. Will be in the Anfield Road end with my wife and both boys supporting our team whatever happens. Come on you Reds!
MartinR
17 Feb 2013 10:53:28
Need a victory today. The tactical master BR will lead the way. Remember he has made stuff that we would not imagine could happen! Such as 0 points in 2 matches against WBA. Impressive
17 Feb 2013 11:10:41
I don't think any team will be that impressed with Suarez's conversion rate. If we don't get champion league which we won't I will blame suarez as much as Rodgers.
Why can't people except he has squandered enough chances by himself too have kept us in the frame for a 3rd or 4th place finish.
Seems he is beyond criticising on here.
Before anyone says it he is not world class. He is very good on his day and very bad on a bad day.
World class players are still reasonably good on a bad day.
He creates the majority of them chances by himself. I agree that his finishing is quite poor considering how good he actually is. Of corse he's world class and if we lose him he'll only be replaced by someone like Borini. If you were a true Liverpool fan you'd support Luis because he's our best player but your probably a Manc
What an insult. I've been supporting Liverpool since 1977. To call me a manc because I'm not scared to raise the issue that Suarez has cost us points by missing chances most recognised goal scorer would lap up is a bit strong.
Maybe your to young to remember keegan, rush, Dalglish, aldo and other more recent forwards who hit the target when given the chance.
It's what makes team successful and its what wins games. Check the stats and see how many chances we have made then see how many we have taken. Then ask yourself why we are not pushing for the top 4.
We will get know where till we take more of the chances and I hope Sturridge can stay fit and start converting some.
17 Feb 2013 13:35:18
How long would a misfiring Suarez last in uniteds first team. They have 2 in form strikers on the bench. He would either wake up and start hitting the back of the net or end up like berbertov 5th choice.
Congratulations for supporting LFC for 36 years.
Suarez his missed many chances, but he is also one of the top scorers in the
Premier league and is on course for 20 plus league goals.
He is not a natural goal scorer. He is a classic number 10, like Kenny and Beardsley.
He is not a Rush, Fowler or Torres.
Any top class manager recognises this. Kenny wanted to play him with a natural finisher. Unfortunately it didn't work out for Carroll, but unfortunately some fans are prepared to give a failing manager longer than a failing player.
So blaming Suarez for not scoring all those chances he's missed is like blaming Gerrard for all the goals we've conceded. He's not a keeper and Suarez is not a striker.
If Brendan had signed and played a top class striker up front with Suarez instead of Borini (weeps) then maybe we wouldn't be relying on Suarez to score 50 goals a season.
To blame Suarez as much as Brendan for not getting top 4 is clearly nonsensical.
I hate to say it but its A Fact, for what ever reason Suarez has found himself alone up front in front of goal he has.
Blame dalglish, blame Rodgers blame FSG if you like but the chances fell to Suarez.
As everyone keeps telling me he's world class, if so he should have taken more of those chances and we would be in a better position.
The Gerrard comparison does not stack up as he does not play in goal. Suarez does score goals, all I'm saying is he needs to score more based on the amount of chances created.
Facts are facts.
17 Feb 2013 11:09:00
For all the fans on here who are slagging off Rodgers and saying he should be sacked forget that when he arrived in the summer he was taking over a team that finished seventh, sixth and eighth in the last three seasons.
He also decided that he wanted us to play a new style of football to what the players we had at the club were used too and that we would be investing in youth and rebuilding for the long term.
These changes were not going to take affect straight away and were always going to take time to implement and for us to reap the benefits.
I think we all need to get behind the manager (whether we like him or not) and the players and judge him properly after he has had 18-24 months at the club and been able to put his own stamp on the team and bring in all of the players he thinks will take us forward.
LMC
I have jus posted somthing very very similar to this jus before reading it and completly agree.
JJ
17 Feb 2013 10:50:13
morning eds and reds, come on the boys let's have the big win today, let's go on a run of wins and finish the year on the up. again my 20 notes at 9 to 1 on are red's finishing the top 4 this year look's all but dead this season not happy lol. I hope in the summer we add some older head's an some steel to the team no more young player's please Liverpool. if we need young player's look to the under 21's BR are young lads are doing the bizz this season. come on the reds let's have it. jay essex red for life red till dead. and as alway's walking on with hope. cheer's eds
17 Feb 2013 10:33:49
Hey Eds, Invariably all my posts have been posted thus far but I posted one last night in response to some replies to my original post. That post is not getting reflected anywhere.
Did it attracted any abuse or was my post offensive?
Cheers anyways!
Indian with Red Heart {Ed002's Note - I have absolutely no idea, sorry.}
17 Feb 2013 10:25:31
I don't know if Rodgers is up to the job or not but he should be given the time to prove it.
For those that don't like him and don't want him to succeed, it won't do any good to keep sacking managers, whether they are successful or not. You can't keep starting from scratch.
Rodgers latest quote is good to hear, too. He says we need more "men" and I've been saying that for ages. We've lost a lot of these types of players- Alonso, Masch, Carra (been out for a while) and not really replaced them (though Lucas stepped up more than I ever thought he would).
That doesn't mean old players but ones that will show up when we need them the most. Gerrard and Owen, for example, were "men", even as teenagers.
Look at our last two games, Gerrard and Suarez didn't take our chances- and without Sturridge- no one else looks like doing it.
Our youngsters are either not good enough or man enough to make 'that' difference, yet, so we need players who are mentally strong enough to help out the likes of Gerrard and Suarez.
Rigsby. {Ed002's Note - You don't think you are reading more in to the word "men" than there really is? Everytime the supporters disect any statements from the club it ends in tears.}
Maybe I am, Ed002, but that's my view, anyway.
Many of our players often leave it to the bigger players when we're in trouble. That's either down to a lack of ability, belief or both. Rodgers might have meant something else but I hope he was agreeing with me for a change, ha ha.
Shelvey starting in an attacking role against a defensive WBA and Sterling starting on the two of the worst pitches we've played on (Oldham and Zenit), are two that have baffled me recently.
But what do I know?
Rigsby.
17 Feb 2013 10:11:53
Br is in the papers saying Suarez will go if there's no champions league surely its he's fault for wasting money on crap and he should go too. BR is a joke my gran could have signed better players and got better results then him!
17 Feb 2013 10:02:31
I wonder if Swansea will have vacant seats on their bus to take back Rodgers. They may as well take Allen and Borini. If they don't have space then I will have to fly out from Oz to drive them back. Taxi for Rodgers after the game. Once he is gone we can make a new documentary series called "Not Being Liverpool" and Rodgers can be a star defining how close he came to winning us the EPL and may be Europa.
Alibabainoz
Are you hoping we lose? So you can say "Told yer So!"
17 Feb 2013 09:47:53
Ok just read tv gossip it's saying Rodgers wants sell our experienced players and bring in Ashley Williams what a joke this guy is we need players of calibre hendo starting to look good sooner have pepe than al Habsi anyday. Keep downing as a squad player got to get rid of tika taka style it's not working no good playing around our own area goodbye br and take yr buys with you ynwa forever
Gossip being the operative word!
ian the red
Is this a joke or have they hacked his thoughts.
KUMBER
Typical paper talk let's just wait and see
17 Feb 2013 11:00:30
You say its gossip and then you judge BR from it. What has happened to our fans?
Hounsred
Yes, the papers say it, it must be true. There's a reason we don't go there for rumours and come here for the wisdom of the eds. The eds aren't trying to sell papers by making up stories. don't believe everything you read.
ChrisMiz {Ed002's Note - I can confirm that as of Friday 15th, Liverpool has made no approach to Swansea regarding Ashley Williams, so the reports linking him with a move seem no more than speculation.}
17 Feb 2013 09:15:02
If we are lucky Swansea will rest their best players due too their having a cup final next week. This will give us a chance to get something from a tricky fixture.
Also it will bring to an end a bad run and build a little confidence.
Just hope we don't lose to a weakened Swansea team that would bury Rodgers.
I'm gutted we didn't have Lewis holtby on our radar, he would be the type of plAyer who would strengthen our midfield perfectly.
Swansea will not rest anyone, I would prefer if they didn't, we need to win against there first team, I think we will win but won't count the pints yet.
Hope we give them a good bashing and all. 5. 0 would do.
KUMBER
17 Feb 2013 09:06:12
Do you think you can Coutinho starting today as he was unable to play on Thursday so should perhaps be in better condition? {Ed002's Note - Perhaps he will. Or perhaps he will be on the bench.}
17 Feb 2013 09:22:42
Lots of tak about the team needing to toughen up mentally. Did we not appoint a sports psychologist last year, Steve peters? He was supposed to be one of the top men in his field. If so can I ask what he has been doing since then?
iggypop
Yes the sports psychologist that trains paddy harrington would he great as he talks the greatest load of old pony and it would fit in perfectly with the tosh BR talks - way to go!
17 Feb 2013 09:04:23
Waro: There's no E in SHANKLY
kidmillions {Ed002's Note - And no nuts in donuts.}
17 Feb 2013 09:48:23
Kidmillions, that was a typo. But shame on me, think its best I hand my season ticket back. I saw you got a few disagrees to your reply to my post last night sensai and I know you can't stand that, well great wise one, must dash i'm on a break in work. But I will remember to wax on wax off sensai. Sorry I didn't leave a reply last night but I was up at 5 for work, like a good little tax payer
Waro
17 Feb 2013 09:56:16
Neither pine nor apple in pineapple. A guineapig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig. Do we actually have noses that run? How can the weather be as hot as hell one day and as cold as hell another? If you have a bunch of odds and ends and get rid of all but one, what do you call it? Hammers don't ham. But if writers write, why can't fingers fing? If vegetarians eat vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? If the past tense of teach is taught, why isn't that of preach praught? Sometimes I marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn down as it burns up, and in which an alarm clock goes off by going on. And why, when I wind up my watch I start it, but when I wind up this write-up I end it.
BB (Bad Bullet).
Really an "e" in shankley or shankly is sooo important
Frankly Mr. Shankly - The smiths
Dont come that waro, giving it oh great one when you blatantly object to supporters giving there opinions and ask them to refrain from coming on the site, simply because you disagree with what they have to say! I read what you said in response to my post last night, and feel aggreaved that someone with your intelligence, or lack of, had the cheek to call me stupid for expressing an opinion! then have the cheek to say I can't stand seeing it anymore! there's a lot of fans been coming on this site a lot longer than you, myself included and we all got on all right until the likes of you decided you had to give your ten pence worth and spew vile hatred at the team, manager and other supporters for simply expressing their opinions. why don't you try smiling for a change? why not be positive for a change? are you that far gone? for your information there was a lot of pressure on shankly when he came to Liverpool due to the fact that everton were the best team on merseyside at the time. if you look at the league table now they are above us, how does that make you feel? possibly the same as it would have back then? there was pressure on him, thinking any different just makes you nieve!
ian the red
Waro: The tax payer: Exposed:
As usual, you assume to much, a typo on Shankly? Really?
Working on a Sunday and making tax references? This is a football forum why the work and tax reference?
Is this a thinly disguised dig at Liverpool people, certainly sounds like. Explain?
Or the real shame is on you.
kidmillions
17 Feb 2013 13:28:41
I did explain kid but obviously the eds won't show it. Just for the record, part of it was born and bread scotty rd, so it wasnt an attack on my city.
Waro
17 Feb 2013 08:18:45
Curious to know that if Lukaku was available for a loan next season again from Chelsea would you as a Liverpool fan want him in? For me it would be a shoo-in; clinical, pacy, strong and works hard and would be a great option to rotate with Sturridge.
Thoughts?
WindsorRed
Would he and Sturridge be willing to rotate? Both of them have moved to get regular football.
I haven't seen enough of Lukaku to judge him, though.
Rigsby.
He may only be available to be on loan to "lesser sides" than LFC
However another couple of seasons with BR in charge and we will be in with a shout
17 Feb 2013 11:07:37
That beast would score loads of goals in our current set-up. Maybe Thibaut Courtois too in goal and we could be in for a top 4 fight next season.
17 Feb 2013 07:36:26
Poor old Brendan. Boy, is he getting some stick. I thought the mighty reds were playing well this season. Much better than previous seasons regarding possession and shots on target. They are dominating games against a variety of opponents including all the teams above them and as most people will agree, not netting the many chances that we are creating. So, the mighty reds are playing damn good football, dominating many many opponents, creating a ridiculous amount of chances. I say, well done to our new manager! His ideas are obviously working. Hmmmm, so where does the problem lie? Surely it must be the strikers? They are not putting the many chances created in the old onion bag! Yes, Suarez has scored many but he has missed many more. Where would we be if they had ALL gone in? Mr Rogers would be a bloody hero then. Brendan is doing a good job. I like him, his thinking and his tactics. Perhaps certain people should spend some more time with extra shooting practice. With smaller goals.
LFC are not dominating against the teams above them - where did you see that?
2nd poster did you not watch the man c or west brom game?
Londonred
And the utd game at start of the season we destroyed them
I wish teams who destroy us and giving us 3 points. That would be nice.
The end result is what matters
And have we beaten anyone just anyone above us?
No
QED
17 Feb 2013 02:28:15
I know we're all feeling a bit down (myself included) and finding it hard to be optimistic, but given one or two inspired signings I feel we might not be as far away as we might think.
I feel our midfield lacks both quality and desire, therefore I feel a summer move for xabi alonso would really give us some experience and he'd be a good servant for 2 seasons or so.
With a midfield of alonso, gerrard and lucas we're already looking like a better team, which means then really only need another striker to complete the front 3.
Add d. villa c. erikson a. williams and diakate that would be great
The first two & last one won't be signing
17 Feb 2013 01:58:34
I have noticed in the last week that the patience in BR has truly changed for the worst, posters are clearly divided now and turning on each other. I posted yesterday that all that matters now is to finish the season with a distinctive improvement in many areas otherwise it will be a long summer of division. I think BR needs to win at east 2 out 3 of the next three games. Not because it means anything to league position but the team needs to show some mental gritt. They need to demonstrate some bottle, BR in particular just need to prove that he can manage the team to win for winnings sake. The smart creative football can follow once the foundations of a winning mentality are sorted out. On a selfish note, I like most, are addicted to this site (much to the displeasure of the wife) and need LFC to turn things around so I get on with something else in life and just enjoy reading match reports. beancounter